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3 Reasons Why America Will Crumble

August 17, 2012 by  

3 Reasons Why America Will Crumble
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One of these days, the United States will be nothing more than a series of articles filed away under the letter “U” in the encyclopedia.

A recent trip to the East Coast reminded me of a few things. Namely, America is a beautiful land of diverse people. And it won’t be long before it crumbles into oblivion.

Every great nation has its season. At some point, it ceases to be a world power and becomes nothing more than a page in a history book. When was the last time you read about what the Roman or Babylonian army is up to? That’s my point exactly. One of these days, the United States will be nothing more than a series of articles filed away under the letter “U” in the encyclopedia. I don’t like it or want it to be such, but it’s the truth. And it might be sooner than later.

America will crumble because attempts to revolt will be stifled. I had my own run-in with the Transportation Security Administration while traveling. In case you were not aware, baby formula could be explosive. I was stopped as I tried to take the powdered substance through security. I saw a comment box conveniently located near my location, so I thought that I would leave a comment. But I couldn’t. Although they had supplied comment cards, all pens and pencils had been conveniently removed from the table. As the attack on our privacy becomes more intense, expect government to do all it can to silence protestors.

America will crumble because the surrounding nations are more educated and intelligent. This fact was illustrated at Subway, the only place where you can have bologna with mayonnaise on white bread and feel like you have eaten something healthy. While listening to individuals of different nationalities place their orders, it became clear that we the people are quite foolish — particularly the American woman who ordered “ham and cheese with no cheese.” Every Subway connoisseur knows that ham and cheese is not even an item on the menu. In not too many years, I suspect Americans will be busy ordering ham and cheese with no cheese while surrounding nations speed past us in every area imaginable.

America will crumble because more and more people feel entitled. While waiting on a flight, I got to witness firsthand the train wreck that is American parenting. One of the children, probably 8- or 9-years-old, began crying when she did not get her way. Quickly, Dad sped to the scene, consoling the poor, deprived child. This happened shortly before one of the other children played on one of Southwest’s computers. The proud parents seemed delighted that the youngster had such an interest in technology. Many kids who are never spanked and never told, “No,” end up being parasites. The hardworking taxpayers who still have some sense of self-worth and dignity end up being the host. While we raise a generation that will be dependent on the state and crushed by the expectations of life, those nations that are instilling work ethic will be sure to take advantage of our dependency.

I don’t know when it will happen, but it will. If the ship does not change course, we will fall and crumble into pieces. The process is a slow one, and we are in the middle of it. When change comes gradually, the average onlooker does not realize that anything has even changed. One day, capitalism, confidentiality and Christian values will be the subjects of nostalgic reflection.

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • GALT

    Confidentially, Bryan……..if the human brain were constructed and operated on logic circuits like a computer……..it would have frozen and crashed due to the myriad of internal contradictions with in it, a long time ago.

    Such nostalgia is a pleasant contemplation……..after all, those things are what brought us
    here, did they not? Change happens slowly, because people resist change in general, and that includes the understanding that something has FAILED or never had a chance of working in the first place.

    Nostalgic for ‘christian values’……….which one’s? Capitalism……whose version and for what purpose and whose benefit?

    When you fill in the blanks………you will have an understanding of the numerous possible
    permutations and the contradictions…….which is why they have failed………..change can not be resisted……….it needs to be understood and embraced.

    But thanks for sharing………..

    • GALT

      Society is a condition of inequality. Whether in the animal or human realm, we find the ordinary and the extraordinary, the leaders and the led, the powerful and the relatively powerless. The patterns of dominance and subservience found in nature are mirror images of systems present in our social systems all over the globe. Consider this listing:

      1. The leader displays the trappings, posturing, and gestures of dominance—sleek, calm, relaxed, and purposive.

      2. When challenged, he scares his foe with aggressive charges.

      3. If needed he can—and does—overpower his opponent.

      4. He is not only physically strong, but is cunning, quick, and intelligent as well.

      5. He reinforces his dominance on the group by maintaining harmony, thereby ensuring his position.

      6. He develops a cadre of assistants who help him maintain the safety of the group. He rewards them with relative freedom of action and a closer association with him.

      7. He protects his subordinates, thus ensuring the continuance of the group.

      8. He determines the movement of the group. They go where he goes, work when he works, and rest when he rests.

      9. He is continually reassuring the group members of his affection and love for them.

      10. He assumes command in times of danger and is in the forefront of battle.

      This account could be a description of the modern business executive. In fact, it is an outline of the ten commandments of dominance in baboon leaders described by Desmond Morris in The Human Zoo (1969).

      http://markettorrent.com/topic/4600?page=1

      • G. Smith

        Sounds like tony soprano.

      • http://PersonalLiberty Donnie

        Greed is destroying our great country.I have watched greed get greedier the last 40 years.I have watched CEO’s outsource thousands of jobs for a bigger bonus.These are the people who have no pride in their country.The peole who worked the jobs in this country made this country great.When you lose the jobs you lose the greatness.You can take the tax rates on corporations to zero and the jobs will not come back.They fell inlove with the cheap labor in India,China ans Southeast Asia.But they still want to sell the product for what it would cost to make it in the United States.People can only work if they have jobs.Everybody does not want to be a burden on society and take free handouts.Somrbody tell me where all the jobs are the last tax cut was suppossed to create are.They were created overseas.Greed set in big time in the head office.They said”as long as we get ours who cares what happens to the workers”.Let’s maximize profits and outsource the work.Mitt Romneys father told the board of directors at American Motors that the CEO’s should not make that much more than the workers who make the automobiles.You would never hear a CEO say that now.They say bring on the money and then bring more.The greatest generation was the greatest generation because they loved their country.And that was every American.Wall Street turned that into the love of money and more money.There is nothing wrong with making money,but destroying your country to make that money is wrong.Laugh at North Korea all you want,but look in the mirrow and you are laughing at yourself.Welcome to the United States of North Korea.That is coming very soon.

        • george Moberly

          i cannot agree with you more in regards to outsourcing jobs. When NAFTA was signed into law by Pres. Clinton the jobs started to leave the country in an alarming rate. The auto industry lost over a million jobs if you count suppliers to the big three’s losses.

      • Liberty4Me

        Donnie,

        I agree with you that CEO’s and investors are greedy and want fat bonus’ and big profits. But let us not forget the greed of the employee for wanting more and more benefits, fee health care, higher pay, early retirement, and lots of vacation. Let us not forget the greed of government who want to use taxpayer money to buy votes from the greedy 49 percent receiving entitlements. Let us not forget the greedy consumers who want the cheaper product made in China rather than the more expensive product made in Detroit. Donnie, we are human and thus we are all greedy.

        • Proud to be a Believer

          Good post. You hit the nail on the head!! Everyone forgets about the Union people and all of the people down the line that are greedy. That is why a loaf of bread went from five cents to over two dollars as everything is relevant. When a good wage was one dollar and hour back in the 50′s everything was geared to that one dollar.

      • GALT

        Tony Soprano was no Don Corleone!

        “Bona Sera, Bona Sera, what have I done that you treat me so disrespectfully. You come to me on the day of my daughter’s wedding and you ask me to do murder. This I will not do. You ask for justice, this is not justice, your daughter is not dead.”

        Para phrased with sections omitted and an extremely powerful piece of dialog in it’s entirety………

      • duane

        Go play in a very busy traffic intersection with your commie b.s. I have never heard or read such drivel in my life. You can abide anyone being an individual can you?? Suck a rotten egg.

    • Art

      You my friend are a jerk. The whole country is falling apart and everyone thinks it is normal.

    • Deborah

      To Galt & Everyone -

      I have just returned from seeing the movie, 2016 – Obama’s America. The theater was packed! Everybody applauded and cheered at the end of the movie. It is a fantastic documentary that exposes Obama for who he is and how he plans to destroy this country.

      The theater was buzzing about telling their family and friends to go see this movie. I would even encourage the hard-core democrats to see this movie, if they are not too brainwashed to keep an open mind and admit that this is the reality of the fate of our nation, if we do not vote Obama out.

      All of us who love America and want to save our country must support this movie and get the word out to everyone. Obama must go!

      • GALT

        Yay!!!!!!!!!! I’m glad you enjoyed it………I also caution you to be careful what you wish for………..because the alternative will bring about what you believe is coming, much quicker………

        • Deborah

          That is not true GALT. You need to see the movie before you assume that to be the outcome. I’m sure it will educate and enlighten you. I’d like to hear your rebut to the the movie’s documented truths. I think you will be hard pressed to justify your point of view.

      • Deborah

        GALT -

        I think you may want to look at the cover of the latest edition of NEWSWEEK magazine.
        This is a very liberal magazine.
        Karma is soooooo sweet.
        Enjoy!

        • needfulthings

          So deborah what yer telling us as that you went to a prophet or a soothsayer to find out what 2016 looks like … right? So did i hit the lotto? , did the earth end? what are the lotto numbers for the first game of 2012? worst of all You gave us the spoiler “OBAMA WINS” in 2012 …. dats great news !!!! Thanks

          • Deborah

            needfulthings -

            You are such a fool. I shouldn’t even dignify your comment with a response. My wisdom goes way over your head.

          • needfulthings

            How is it you racist believe Obama is distroying this country when the first 12 Trillion of the countries debt was accumulated by republican president’s ,ronnie star wars ray-gun , and 2 members of the bush crime family? Keep in mind that President Obama starts every year ONE TRILLION in the hole from just paying interest on all that debt thee above mentioned caused? bye the bye Clinton left dubya 600 million on the + side
            In fact in 2006 . “Bush crime family Makes Massive Land Purchase In Paraguay Ahead Of Expected War Crimes Charges and the collapse of the U.S. economy.
            How did you miss that one ole “Mental Giant” ?

          • Deborah

            needfulthings -

            First of all, I am not a racist. Secondly, the tone of your comments and your colorfully irreverent references to President Ronald Regan only accentuate your wacky, liberal-
            extremist ideology. You simply cannot be taken seriously. As the British would say, I think you’ve gone ’round the bend.

            You ask how Obama is destroying America. Please educate yourself and go see the movie, 2016: Obama’s America. All of your questions will be answered in a level-headed, factual way. The movie is very well done. It is 1 hour and 25 minutes long. It is fast paced, entertaining, and extremely thought-provoking. I cried when they visited Africa and interviewed Obama’s brother. The cinematography and music are also wonderful. Just give it a chance.

          • needfulthings

            Okay Deborah I went out and got me one of them there edge-ah-ma-cations you were talking about and heres what i found >

            2016 Obama’s Omerica was done by conservative activist Dinesh D’Souza is a hack of the highest order and many are questioning conclusions reached and facts presented.

            Dinesh raised Catholic and is now an Evangelical Christian (thee worst kind of religious pervert) . He does not believe in the separation of church and state ,he also worked for ronnie star wars ray gun, was editor of Policy Review ( Heritage Foundation ) did time with the Dartmouth Review, which was subsidized by several conservative organizations not affiliated with Dartmouth. He joined the American Enterprise Institute in 1989 …
            A right wing political hack , a right wing ideology nut job with partisan views!

            NOT level-headed and NOT factual in any way shape or form !!!!!!!
            How could YOU use the term”factual” on a piece of Fiction that discribes events that take place in 2016 ?????????

            WOW ! YER SMOKEN SUMP’N ?

            so hows my “SELF EDUCATION” going so far??

            gawd please save me from your followers

          • Deborah

            Now, now, let’s not be testy. Just because Mr. D’Sousa is a conservative, does not mean he is not a credible person. He has quite an impressive resume’ depending on which political party you identify with.

            This movie really is very well done, seriously. Even hard-core Dems and left-wing nut jobs would enjoy this movie from a documentary point of view. The facts are the facts. Even though you may not agree with the overall conclusion, it is good to get a different perspective from other people’s points of view. What is it Jesus said? “Know thine enemy..” OMG! The evangelical bloggers must be rubbing off on me. As a Roman Catholic, I don’t quote the bible.

            Anyway, I absolutely despise Michael Moore, yet I have seen his documentaries. Not all of them, but I did see Bowling Columbine and I’m working up the nerve to see Sicko. As a healthcare professional, I already know I am a strong opponent to nationalized healthcare. But I digress, we’ll leave the healthcare debate for a separate blog.

            I really think you should see 2016: Obama’s America. If you quest after knowledge, you would enjoy it. You are free to take it with a grain of salt if you so desire.

          • needfulthings

            Oh yeah Deborah one more thing about your B.S. movie maker Mr. Dinesh D’Souza … He’s been bone’n Laura Ingraham for years. Yes! that laura ingraham

          • Deborah

            To needfuthings -

            I was not aware that Mr. D’Sousa and Laura Ingram were an item. Where did you hear or read that tidbit of info? You say that like I should be shocked. What’s wrong with a dark-skinned, East-Indian man and a Caucasian woman being together? You forget, I am an Independent voter who leans to the right. Perhaps that is why I am more tolerant. It’s the extremists that are intolerant.

          • needfulthings

            The color of Mr. Dinesh D’Souza skin has nothing to do with it, I haven’t seen a picture of him that I recall????

            The mistake YOU made was asking me to go get an “EDUCATION” ! republicans don’t want us to have information, Like rush limp-balls sayz ‘ DON’T THINK”! I’ll do the think’n for ya! The right has been attacking education for decades (as it does today) and it’s working, as reported by several surveys ” Fox News” listeners ( righties) are the lease informed people in the USA. Really, education hasn’t much to do with it , it’s look’n for yourself, it’s investigation, it’s NOT believing what you hear from the boob tube or radio.

            Believing, is nothing more than ” SUPERSTITIONS ” in it’s rawest form, my philosophy on most things is > ” I don’t care what you think and I don’t care what you believe … I wanna to know what you know, and how do you know it” ?

            I do scribe to several rightie web sites ( like this ) to correct and have fun! Can’t recall whom made the statement(s) several have said . “Obama is spending us into Oblivion” Facts, Truth and thee data does not compute !! There are sites that are very neutral in fact based answers, it’s just not that hard!

            Fox Noise people are liars and it’s not news, just another branch of the republican party, Oh yes every now n then they put a real live JOURNALIST on the air , but for the most part ( 70 / 80% ) of the time it’s just right wing propaganda ! The left wing news does much better. they get it right about 80% of the time. Instead of name dropping here lets just use one to prove my point , that be Maddow! She states the facts, shows you the data, and tells you where it came from and where you can look at it yourself. NO not right or left wing web sites but government data collectors like non-parisan C.B.O or the O.M.B. ( I know these are alien to you) and some other neutral sources which are numerous!

            Ideolgies don’t interest me, real hard facts do … another EGG-SAMBLE the berry soto thing, It took two days but I know why Obama has two names, YOU – ALL just believe what you read , NO CHECKING, you B-E-L-I-E-V-E-D and then it was a short trip to “He’s not an American !! All who BELIEVE that are STUUUUUUUPID regardless ofyour education levels ( I know High School drop-outs that are less IGNORANT)

            Well enough I’m busy today and done die write this in pieces ( no time to edit)

            Remember for me its ” MIND OVER MATTER ; I DON’T MIND CAUSE YOU DON’T MATTER”
            Thinks peoples,knows sump’n fo sure

          • Deborah

            Wow – needfulthings, you really are a nut case. You are so full of anger and hate. You’re just another liberal extremist. The GOP has its extremists too, but it makes for a good balance. It takes extremists to fight extremists.

            Did you see the cover of the extremely left-wing NEWSWEEK magazine? It shows Obama with his jacket flung over his shoulder and the title is, “HIT THE ROAD BARACK: WHY WE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT.” I believe the inside article discusses why Obama fears Paul Ryan.

            It looks like your left-wing friends in the journalism and media fields are finally starting to wake up to what is best for America. It sure aint four more years.

            By the way, you spew a lot of lies and garbage. You have no proof that Rachel Maddow’s “facts” are any more credible than Fox Cable News’. Fox viewers are very well informed. I do watch CNN, NBC, BBC & FOX (FCN). I prefer FOX and I’ve noticed CNN is becoming less radical lately. They are trying to be more fair and balanced because that’s what viewers gravitate towards. That’s why FOX has been NUMBER 1 for 13 years and counting. I guess CNN wants to rake in some of the money too.

            You, unfortunately, will never be fair and balanced. You are having too much “fun” being devil’s advocate. I’m glad the right-wing Christians are fighting against evil people like you. Somebody has got to save America. I’ll cheer for the “Soldiers of God.”

          • needfulthings

            “Ignorance is bliss” from your statements YOU have made it so, lt is written. it is done!

          • Deborah

            Ah yes, I believe I have won this debate. Check mate. It is written, it is done.

          • needfulthings

            If by-passing he truth to win a debate was your goal , you have won in spades!!!!!

          • Deborah

            I have deduced that you are evil personified. Therefore, your words and your agenda are NOT the truth. So it is written, so it is done.

          • JOSEPH FOSTER

            I agree with most of your comment. The Destruction of America began 30 years ago; they are now trying to blame all of the mistakes made by other Presidents before Obama was elected on Obama.

          • Deborah

            Yes, I also agree that the destruction of America is not all Obama’s doing. Presidents before him have certainly made their mistakes. However, Obama is now taking us over the edge. If we do not change course immediately, we are literally doomed.

            Obama’s problem is that he wants to continue spending and borrowing. He thinks he can just continue printing money to pay our debts to the foreign countries, without any consequences. The foreign countries are on to his tactics and they are now refusing to accept the dollar as a form of payment. The dollar has become devalued and will soon become obsolete, thanks to Obamanomics.

            This is going to affect our life savings as well as every other aspect of our lives. Unfortunately, Obama doesn’t care about helping the poor as much as he wants to destroy the rich. He wants to destroy America in order to put us on an even playing field with the rest of the world. Then, my friends, you will see what true poverty is. The American poor will learn just how good they had it before global poverty overwhelms them.

            I keep telling you people to go see the movie, 2016: Obama’s America. You really need a wake up call.

          • Proud to be a Believer

            Needfulthings, I know you Utopians absolutely hate the truth and are always trying to twist. The only reason that the budget got balanced during the Clinton eras was because the then Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, kept resubmitting balanced budgets for signature until Clinton finally signed.

          • needfulthings

            Not so fast believer .. lets try some facts >
            • “When I was speaker, we had four consecutive balanced budgets.” (Republican presidential debate, Tampa, Jan. 23, 2012)

            • “I balanced the budget for four straight years, paid off $405 billion in debt.” (Republican presidential debate in Sioux City, Iowa, Dec. 15, 2011)

            • “For four years, we balanced the budget and paid off $405 billion in debt.” (video announcement that he would run for president, May 11, 2011)

            All earned a rating of False because Gingrich was taking credit for two budgets that he had no role in assembling or shepherding through the House.

            By fiscal year 1998, the federal budget did reach a surplus of $69 billion. And in fiscal year 1999 — which Gingrich can claim some responsibility for, even though he was out as speaker for most of the fiscal year — it was in surplus as well, to the tune of $126 billion

            But he glossed over a pair of tax-raising bills that made a difference, and that Gingrich opposed, including the 1990 budget deal (in which President George H.W. Bush broke his “no new taxes” pledge), and the 1993 budget vote, which cost many Democratic lawmakers their seats in the 1994 Republican landslide.

            So dems raised taxes to produce a ” surplus” and he took all the credit!

            “Like most things in life, what caused the budget to be balanced was multi-factorial, most important of which was the tech boom and the surging economy,” said Steve Ellis, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense. “You can partially credit the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, but you could also credit the 1993 and 1990 bills that Speaker Gingrich opposed. It’s a little too simple to say that the 1997 Balanced Budget Act ‘balanced the budget.’

            See believing sump’n ain’t the whole thing … FACTS gotta inter into it some where!

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com poorgrandchildren.com

    We are already crumbling because we are accepting the lie that our republic is really a democracy. In democracies, everyone has the right to vote and then the obligation to march in lockstep with the majority. Individual freedoms get trampled.

    • eddie47d

      A much better point could have been made besides a child being spoiled or someone ordering a ham sandwich. Very strange article and I imagine there will be many strange responses. Poor grandchildren seems to favor the select few controlling her life. You know the Elite who have all the power and the citizen is regulated to keeping his mouth shut. Where they play the game of Kings and Serfs and your life means squat. I’d rather take my chances in a Democracy (or republic) where I have a say in my outcome such as voting and not being totally controlled by those select few. Do you think the Tea Party would even exist under any other system.

    • Robert Smith

      We are escentially a corporate fudal system with the 1% gambling at the top. We are the losers.

      Until the 99% can be paid a fair wage, get the finest health care that’s available in America, and can control their very own bodies without religious nuts trying to mess with them we will continue our downward slide.

      What’s the incentive for any individual in America? Only 1% will be in the 1%.

      Rob

      • Patriot1776

        And statistically speaking, there will always be 1% in the 1%. Life isn’t fair. As long as we expect to be given without earning, we will continue to decline. It is the expectation that we are owed anything, just because we exist that has lead to our decline.

      • flpi!

        Whats wrong with the 99% working to pull themselves up out of that category instead of expecting the government or the 1% to give it to them.. And no one in the “99%” are forced to be somewhere they don’t want to be, we don’t have rampant “sweatshops” anymore, we have choices. Frankly, I’m tired of this “1%” vs “99%” analogy anyhow,, this country is made up of a lot more groups, this tired analogy is what the establishment wants us to use to fight over. To villainize each other and worship the corrupt leadership of the true tyrants that have led us to where we are.

      • regnigml

        Our forefathers gave us the right to “pursue” in our founding documents…it did not state “you are entitled”. After WWII, America became a country of dreams for all, and many people took their dreams and made them a reality….that is why we became the greatest nation (whether Obama believes it or not) ever. The family unit was strong, God was the driving force for many, freeloaders were hopping trains, not protesting for their fair share (OWLS), people were responsible for their own actions, they had honor, and pride and did not believe in killing their babies…..these people gave birth to the generation of “baby boomers” (of which I am one), and the baby boomers broke all the rules, ponography, greed, lust, homosexualism, Godlessness, divorce….all the things that the communist manifesto of 1958 set about to bring our country down….I apologize for my generation (who will be remembered by Woodstock) instead of our soldiers serving in Viet Nam, I was not watching all these years as to what our government was doing because I was too busy making a living and raising kids. However, I am attempting to rectify my obliviance and will work my buns off to see that Obama gets his can kick down the road in November, so that my grandchildren have a chance to continue to live in a free country, under the rules of the Constitution. Hopefully, it is not too late.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Who gets to decide what a fair wage is? And then when the prices go up to pay for the fair wage, will it still BE a fair wage? It’s ALL an illusion of control!

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith writes:
        “Until the 99% can be paid a fair wage, ….., and can control their very own bodies without religious nuts trying to mess with them we will continue our downward slide.”

        Just out of curiosity how are people trying to mess with your control over your body? I do notice that democrats won’t let you smoke marijuana but I don’t see any religion (besides big government religion) controlling that.

        Oh and what is a “fair” wage pray tell?

      • Vicki

        Nancy in Nebraska says:
        “Who gets to decide what a fair wage is? ”

        Why I do of course. I do and the person who contracts with me for my services. So really there are 2 of us.

      • Robert Smith

        Patriot correctly says: “there will always be 1% in the 1%.”

        True enough. But in America today the gap between the rest of us and those in the 1% is getting to be more and more.

        Why do you stick up for the 1% as they grab more, even from you?

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        “Who gets to decide what a fair wage is?”

        When I grew up in the 1950s my mother didn’t work. We were able to afford a house, as many many Americans did, along with a newer car or two, and we were able to buy a color TV when they came out.

        Now, both parents work (if it can be found) and the cars are much older (if they have more than one).

        That’s all because the rich have gotten richer at the expense of the rest of us.

        Rob

      • APN

        Well actually Robert, the decline of America began with Feminism which is the ROOT of socialism and then FULL BLOWN COMMUNISM! In fact, the driving factor of all this is to destroy GOD THE CREATOR and replace it with FOOLS like King ODUMBO and Hillary Clinton. When all that has been achieved, we can all do with our “bodies” whatever our little dope smoking hearts desire and then place the massive DEBT of our self-imposed diseases on our GRANDCHILDRENS “Charge Card”. SHAZAAM! Way to go boy!

        Robert, it’s the DOPE stupid! In case you are wondering!

      • Pathfinder

        Robert: America is unique. Anyone can succeed here and the “social justice, poor kid from Kenya”, is an excellent example. Bill Clinton, is another example and there are tens of thousands more.
        What makes America unique is freedom and the opportunity to work and succeed. So for anyone to deny the 1% is to curtail the opportunity for all to succeed. Now if you are among those who expect the government (or unions for that matter) to feather you bed, your bed will never any softer than it is now.

        You mention health care. I am absolutely amazed on how many people think that Obama’s socialized Obamacare is the solution. If you want to know government healthcare, please visit an Indian Reservation (try Pine Ridge SD).

        Obama claims he is going to cut health care costs. He is not cutting costs, he is just shifting the funding. He is taking 500 billion out of medicare (the president LIES when he claims “he is not cutting medicare ) and will be putting the money into the general fund.
        (Do you know what happens when the government sets up a “general fund”? )
        You will be taxed more than you can ever imagine for these medical services. Then when you need it most, that is when you retire and are on S/S and Obama care, you will be introduced to the “death panels”.
        The dirty secret is Obama takes over the health care system, eliminates medicare cost and saves social security revenue by denying it to the elderly and giving it to “tax revenue generators” so as to maintaing the revenue flow.

        No question the health care system needs revision but to expect the all knowing government to come up with a solution is forgetting it was the all knowing government that created the current system and then revised to OBAMA CARE . The government is setting up a system that is in essence becomes “financial (tax based) slavery”.

        Dependence on the federal government is like a poison, it kills the spirit.
        In conclusion I offer the words of Thomas Jefferson….
        ‘I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Robert, again you’re full of crap! Having a mother stay home with her children is still a personal choice! There are sacrifices to be made but you set your priorities. I was a stay at home mom. I still am even though my kids are grown up. We always selected our homes in the area with the best schools. We weren’t rich by any definition but we did without many things others find necessary. Two of my sons are married and have children. BOTH of their wives are stay at home moms. They’re willing to sacrifice their McMansions and fancy new cars (actually one of them has two fancy cars) in order to be the ones who raise their children! If your family comes first, you gladly sacrifice luxuries. It is all about priorities!! What’s more important? Stuff or your children?

      • Robert Smith

        From APN: “Robert, it’s the DOPE stupid!”

        Actually during our revolution and most of the history of America there was little regulation on recreational drugs.

        Let’s see… America grew up with minimal drug laws and flouished. Drug laws come along nd things begin to decay.

        Seems to me you have it backwards.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Nancy asks: “What’s more important? Stuff or your children?”

        In the 1950 through the 60s many families had BOTH. I went to a public school that had it’s own planitarium, swimming pool, and one of the best libraries in the state. There was a large enough manufacturing base to support the schools without having high property taxes.

        But then it started to go to crap and now both parents generally have to work, the schools are in the dumper because of “No Child left Behind” and the rich are still getting richer at the expense of the rest of us.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        APN really went off the deep end in his rag! A full fledged wacko.

      • APN

        Robert said: Let’s see… America grew up with minimal drug laws and flouished. Drug laws come along nd things begin to decay.

        Seems to me you have it backwards.

        ____________________________________________________________________
        Seems to me you are a “backward socialist fool” dumber than a box of rocks! List out for me all the government “Entitlement” programs during this time period. National healthcare, welfare, food stamps, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc Name me ONE entitlement program dating back to the 1700′s?????????????????????????????????

        Also, were there any such a thing as the FED in that time period? Did we operate on hard money and self-reliance in that time period or not? YEP!!!!!! Sure did!!!!!
        _____________________________________________________________________

        Robert and Eddiedumbo, Nobody really cares what the both of you do. Both of you can go outside and pound sand up your arse after smoking your dope. We get it little boys, you want your DRUGS legalize and you want to have sex with a BILLY GOAT and pass down as many drug babies as you can for us hard working folks to raise! Have at it, nobody cares at this point, however, what we do care about is financing YOUR “doped stupidity! You and your drug babies can starve as far as I’m concerned!

        I don’t advocate drug control, in fact, I don’t advocate anything outside of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for the choices made.

        You want to smoke dope and have a 1,000 different sex partners, have at it, but do us all a favor, keep that personal choice to yourself and don;t expect future generations to pay for YOUR healthcare or your perverted sex partners! Pay for it yourself, fools!

        Stupidity must rank high among the progressive community!

        May be the DOPE stupid!!!

        YOU “THINK”!!!!

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith writes (several times):
        “….the rich are still getting richer at the expense of the rest of us. ”

        How do they get rich at your expense. Please be specific.

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith writes:
        “Why do you stick up for the 1% as they grab more, even from you?”

        We stick up for the 1% cause unlike government they don’t grab, even from me, anything that I don’t consent to. When government wants to it merely grabs property (eminent domain, controlled substances, scary pieces of metal and plastic etc). The 1% at least have the decency to offer me something I want in exchange for what you CLAIM they grab.

      • Deborah

        Thomas Jefferson said it best: “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

        As the movie, 2016: Obama’s America, documents, Obama does not respect or embrace America’s forefathers. He has his own forefathers like Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayres, etcetera. He has an anti-American/anti-colonialism agenda.The oxymoron is that America was formed to escape British colonialism.

        Obama has his own agenda alright. He wants America to be on an even playing field with the rest of the world. Even with regards to nuclear proliferation. That is a foolish mistake. Only an idiot would believe that evil does not exist in this world and that we can trust all nations to play nice if we treat them with respect. For the U.S. to draw down its nuclear arsenal while others increase theirs is suicide.

  • Tom Cook

    Bryan pursues the expose of realities which the masses never question while pursuing the false tenets of “divinity”–the greatest of all mind viruses as Arthur C. Clark so noted.

  • http://www.hybridpoplars.com Frank G

    Brian; You are right.
    When are we going to take our head out of the sand and see the present for what it is? America will crumble and most of us will just watch it happen, and then, most of us will put our heads back in the sand…

    unbelievable!

    • Robert Smith

      “then, most of us will put our heads back in the sand…”

      And what difference will it really make for most of us? Still no universal health care, still religious nuts trying to tell us how to live, still the 1% looting…

      Rob

      • JimH

        Rob, “Still no universal health care”. Since when is the taxpayer obligated to pay YOUR doctor bill? I have to suport myself?
        The idea that you are entitled is one of the reasons for the DECINE.

      • Robert Smith

        How can anyhone call themselves “pro-life” and deny health care?

        BTW, what do you say to the person who is working two part time jobs trying to get by but just can afford to buy health insurance?

        What do you say to folks who have health issues and can’t get by?

        What do you say to folks who have a pre-existing condition where they can’t be insured?

        I’ll bet it’s, “Tough, die you freeloader.”

        Rob

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:
        “How can anyhone call themselves “pro-life” and deny health care?”

        We don’t deny health care to anyone. We don’t require other people to work as slave labor to provide that health care either.

        Robert Smith: “BTW, what do you say to the person who is working two part time jobs trying to get by but just can afford to buy health insurance?”

        Would you liberals please make up your minds. Are we going to talk health care or insurance?

        Robert Smith: “What do you say to folks who have health issues and can’t get by?”

        We say get together with various charities that may be able to help with your health issues (or with God if you are religious in that way). What we don’t say is “hang on a sec while I go steal some money from that evil healthy guy over there.” Such is what liberals do.

        Robert Smith: “What do you say to folks who have a pre-existing condition where they can’t be insured?”

        Still bouncing around between care and insurance I see.

        We say “arn’t you glad that you live in a country where you can find a doctor willing to treat you even without insurance.”

        Any more red-herrings in that hand basket of yours rob?

      • APN

        Robert, were you born this dumb or did you have to work really hard at it?

        (offensive comment removed)

      • JimH

        Rob, You DO believe the TAXPAYER is morally obligated to pay your doctor bill.
        How about utility bills and groceries?
        What about that person working two deadend jobs? Just how is that Hope and Change thing going for ya?
        Maybe if Obamanomics hadn’t ruined the job market it wouldn’t be an issue.
        With a bad job market, how many taxpayers can pay for YOUR doctor bill?
        Plus we would have the most inept people running(ruining?) it, the Federal government.
        I don’t know about you, but I don’t want them bunglers anywhere near anything as important as my healthcare.

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Jim H. you post: “The idea that you are entitled is one of the reasons for the DECINE.”

        Really? Many I borrow a page from the RTL extremists?

        In our Declaration of Independance it says, “Life, Liberty…”

        Health care is life.

        Or is it that “life” stops when one is born?

        Rob

      • JimH

        Lame try Rob.
        I also have the right to liberty and that means not having to pay for YOUR doctor bill. You have the “right to life”, meaning someone can’t take it away. It doesn’t mean others are obligated to mantain it for you.
        If it were up to you the baby wouldn’t even make it to the being born part. So remember the “rights” violation you support so much.

      • Robert Smith

        Jim H. says about universal health care in America: “Plus we would have the most inept people running(ruining?) it, the Federal government.”

        And that’s better than an insurance company president working for the stockholders and taking money out of health care for his own and their new cars? How ’bout that employment stuff… It’s a boon for India where the person on the other end denys treatment because the cost is too high.

        Yup, apparently Jim H. trusts corporations who have been looting America over the government.

        Right up there rooting for the 1%, their corportracy, rather than America. Thanks, Jim (not).

        Rob

      • JimH

        It’s Rob, the blind following sheep who is so nieve he puts his trust in BIG government.
        The government that can force it’s benevelent will upon you.
        Unlike a corperation I can choose not to do business with.
        Keep trusting the most inept people in the land, Rob-bot.
        You can trust them with YOUR health care, but please, don’t drag the rest of us down with you.
        I know, in order for us to pay for YOU, you have to drag the rest of us down.
        Just remember that when a government bureaucrat turns down your request for treatment.

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:
        “In our Declaration of Independence it says, “Life, Liberty…”
        Health care is life.”

        No Robert. Life is that precious gift given to each of us by God. Healthcare is not life. Healthcare is not needed for life. If healthcare was needed for life we could not have this conversation because there would be no life.

        Healthcare is a service provided by people. Forcing them to work is to make slaves of them. Forcing taxpayers to pay so that you don’t have to feel like the slave owner is to make slaves of the taxpayers.

        .

        .

        Robert Smith confirms that he KNOWS that life begins before birth by asking:
        “Or is it that “life” stops when one is born?”

        • snoops57

          We don’t need European socialized medicine (it’s not working in Europe or anywhere else that it has been tried). Reduced care, shotrage of doctors, long lines just to see a doctor. Let’s get real. Competition, reduced regulations, reduce the fraud and abuse will help bring down healthcare cost. My job used to provide medical insurance now it doesn’t. I make about 1500.00 a month( before taxes) take out 450.00. My friend is a health and life insurance agent and I’ve talked to him about getting it. With a 2500.00 deductible my payments are still almost 500.00 a month. I don’t have insurance now and probally won’t have until I retire. But I can get supplemental insurance that will cover, stroke, cancer, heart attack, accident policy that covers me on and off the job and ICU rider. My point is that if a person is working they can get something to help protect them should something happen. Now without job creators we don’t work, we lose self-worth, dignity. Pull the government out the private sector, do away with unions, and the minimum wage, redo the tax code maybe like a 5-10 percent straight across board tax regardless of income. Things might change companies would hire more, workers would make more and everyone would be on an even field paying taxes. Now I’m not a economics major but its better than what we have now.

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith writes:
        “Yup, apparently Jim H. trusts corporations who have been looting America over the government.”

        Since corporations can not loot America without the power of government it makes sense that Jim H would be more concerned about government abuse then unproven corporation abuse.

        • Deborah

          The difference is that corporations are private entities. they do not posses the same powers that the government possesses. That is not to say that they are not in bed with the government through convoluted contracts which makes it difficult to prove. Still, the government is the ultimate controller.

      • GALT

        Why is it that you ALL persist in debating the “meaning” of things you do not comprehend
        and have never really understood?

        1.) the claim: self evident truths ( are they really? ) 2.) unalienable rights ( in what way unalienable? in what way RIGHTS? ) 3.) endowed by a CREATOR ( as what ? how? and now that you have them……? )

        and finally

        4.) That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

        You will note a.) the source of these rights is the CREATOR. b.) they are, however, not secure……..which raises all the preceding questions which must be answered.

        and lastly How does government secure the right to:

        1.) Life
        2.) Liberty
        3.) The pursuit of happiness.

        When you have actually defined all the terms, you can proceed to attempt to answer
        the final question: you will also find that the imagined tapestry you have woven, falls apart rather quickly…………although whether you can actually stay on point is highly suspect,
        but it should be interesting to watch………have at it, if you DARE?

        • Frank

          Ah Galt, your final challenge sounds almost Biblical. I dare you to prove the existence, love, tollerance, wisdom and gifts of GOD. I will not discriminate against any religion so the words “their creator” can be accepted to refer to the god of any religion. I will point out that the use of the terms you have quoted indicate the deep religious beliefs of the writers of the Declaration of Independance. These beliefs give weight to the statements that I will list in the order of your questions.

          refering to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness,

          1. Self evident (“we hold these truths to be self-evident”) – as Christians they appear to consider it obvious that God wants his children to be happy. The Bible has many examples of his intollerance of servitude to the rulers of nations, so he supports the Liberty (freedom) of his children. And as for LIFE, I seem to recall somewhere there is something that says thou shalt not Kill, some kind of commandment or something.

          2. Unalienable / Rights (Lord forgive me as I do not wish to judge in this response) GOD GAVE ME THESE, how dare you question him. On the day of Judgement God will remind you of your life and I believe possibly cast you aside as unworthy of him. YES THEY ARE UNALIENABLE BECAUSE GOD HAS GIVEN THEM AND THAT WHICH GOD HAS BESTOWED ON HIS CHILDREN NO MAN MAY TAKE AWAY.

          3. A creator (no, it was their creator) This question is hard to understand and therefor difficult to answer properly. What? How? and what do you do now? (actually three questions) What might refer to the creator or the rights. The creator, to them, was our Lord God who is given different names like Jehova, the Being (for lack of a better term) who created everything. Rights are what he gave us as his children, among them are Life, Liberty, self determination and reproduction. The persuit of happiness is just a reasonable assumption derived from Gods love for us. How, What? How did God give us these rights? How did God create the Universe? To the first option, God is the ALPHA and the OMEGA (the beginning and the end) everything comes from God, all you have was a gift from him. Where else would your rights come from? To the second option, I DON’T KNOW, IF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH ASK GOD HOW HE DID IT. It is not within mans capacity to understand the ways of our God, we cannot know how he does the miracles he performs. Finally to, what do we do now. We the people, children of God, following the words of Jesus and accepting him as our savior, give praise to our Lord and follow his words in this life. We trust his wisdom and await our just rewards in his name.

          4. The rights are not secure (subject to interpretation) we form a government to secure these rights. A government is an entity that is formed and given the authority to compell its citizens to comply with certain rules and regulations through the threat or use of force. This is a limited definition but it will suffice for this answer. Because our Lord gave us the power of self determination, we can choose either good or evil. A person who decides to go against the commandments of God will try to take away those gifts (rights) that God has given such as LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS. So to avoid blood fueds that might occur from the seeking of vengance we have a government that helps to protect us from those who would take our RIGHTS away from us. Unalienable rights does not mean that Satan cant try to take them away from you in this existence. I have these rights forever, I might even say that you have not taken my rights away if you kill me. Yes, I am not living here on Earth but my soul is still around and my soul is that which is my essence, the essence that God made in his image, and it still has all the gifts (rights) he gave me.

          Now, Galt, if I have strayed and not kept on topic it is only because your questions were somewhat vague and nebulous. I realize that none of my answers have any validity to a person who discounts the existence of God but, the references in the Declaration of Independence were made by men who believed in God.

          I have some questions of you in return.

          Your questions seem to imply that you question the existence of God, or of his teachings.

          1. Do you think, propose that the Declaration of Independence is somehow invalid because it refers to our Creator in its opening?

          2. If there is no creator, do you discount the idea that we deserve those three rights?

          3. Do you object to the use of the word rights, what alternate word would you use?

      • GALT

        For Frank………..well thanks for the effort…….which you chose to take as a biblical challenge…….rather than the exercise to seek definition of the words used and then to examine what actual meaning can be determined employing intelligence and logical reasoning.

        “Now, Galt, if I have strayed and not kept on topic it is only because your questions were somewhat vague and nebulous. I realize that none of my answers have any validity to a person who discounts the existence of God but, the references in the Declaration of Independence were made by men who believed in God.

        This is a two step process which you chose to circumvent, because you already had an ANSWER at the ready……..so your process was to make everything fit your predetermined answer……..and your obvious PRESUMPTION of my motivation. This particular section was the product of a “small” group who revised Jefferson’s draft…..the term Creator is a concession to the possibility of a (cause), but this cause is not defined…….and you may “define it” to whatever particulars you wish……but until you do, it is irrelevant to this exercise.

        “I have some questions of you in return.

        Considering what you have said and the deviation from the exercise, I shall attempt to answer them as the most expedient way to redirect you to the actual process……….

        “Your questions seem to imply that you question the existence of God, or of his teachings.

        1. Do you think, propose that the Declaration of Independence is somehow invalid because it refers to our Creator in its opening?

        No, I have questioned the definitions of the words used and once determined what meaning can be logicaly derived from the construction.

        2. If there is no creator, do you discount the idea that we deserve those three rights?

        That you are ALIVE would constitute a self evident, a priori TRUTH but this is simply a FACT………in 1776, much of the knowledge regarding the the scope and mechanisms which permit this FACT to be true, were not known…….so Creator is a catch all which concedes a possible cause….which rests on belief ( faith ) and that word, means that NO DIRECT EVIDENCE EXISTS, to support that claim. ( otherwise is would NOT BE FAITH…….nor would the myriad possible metaphysical philosophies and varients thereof also exist……there would be ONE and it to……would be a FACT! )

        3. Do you object to the use of the word rights, what alternate word would you use?

        Ah, the actual point of the exercise……..what does “unalienable” mean?
        Can not be taken away? Not true. Can not be given up? Not true. The most progress that has been made HERE toward “definition” has been the claim “INSEPARABLE from……….” offered by Michael J.

        But this doesn’t help because we still have to complete the exercise “as what” and we already know that that they are not “secure”…… so if God given……..whatever “life” is………it is both fragile and tenuous.

        Regardless of your “claim” as to the “faith” of those who signed this document……….while Creator is used as a source for the FACT of existance……..they also recognised the insecurity, and by declaring them RIGHTS, they also made GOVERNMENT’s primary “purpose”…the securing of same…….

        So what we have here is a mission statment, regarding the purpose of government with regard to certain DECLARED RIGHTS……..and in the context of “declaring independance” from a “government” which did n’t recognize these RIGHTS or it’s primary responsibility to “secure them” or adhere to the source of “governments just powers” as arising from the “consent of the governed”.

        Historically, this was a radical departure from the REALITY of what governments actually did, the source of their power or the intent for which it was used………but this was only a declaration……..and a mission statement……..

        Since the declared “unalienable self evident right to life” is the simplest of these……..and government is the primary instrument of securing this DECLARED RIGHT………what actions must government take, to provide for the “securing” of this RIGHT? Clearly, maintaining life does require certain basic necessities………and this is where the tapestry unravels….although given your (faith) and your statement above which declares that because GOD has given your “unsecured right to life” and that even if you lost it, you have not actually lost it……..this may not be an exercise that you are capable of either completing, or of making any useful or positive contribution to?

        • Frank

          To Galt

          You can try to contrive an obfuscation of facts through monkey talk but your prevarication is unproductive. In your original post you never once asked for a definition of the words, you implied, by context, that you were questioning the ideas of the document. If you want pure accepted definitions of the primary words, I can provide them. However, you have already stated that you for some reason think you know everything better than the rest of humanity when it comes to the truth so I am not sure this will help.

          1. Unalienable (inalienable) means something that can be neither bought or sold, something that can not be taken away from nor given away by the the possessor. (several sources searched and agreement was found on this definition.)

          2. Rights – rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people, according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory (not given or controlled by a government necessarily)

          3. Creator – No definition required here. Your mistake in this instance is with confusing FACT with TRUTH. They are not the same thing. Because of my FAITH I believe it is true that God exists, that he exists to me is a truth. That I believe he exists is a fact. If he does not really exist then my fact and the truth are in conflict which proves that a truth is subjective while a fact is objective.

          That life is fragile and requires many things to maintain does not make the tapestry unravel, except in your mind. A delicate crystal ornament is fragile and requires care to maintain but that does not negate its validity of existance. So the right to life (allowed by both social convention and ethical theory) still exists even though life is fragile.

          I am more than capable of matching and probably exceeding your ability to discuss this issue on an intellectual level. You want to change the rules of my responses, that is fine with me, I will just keep trying to educate you in the facts and just maybe let you find the truth that most see here.

      • GALT

        Actually Frank, you have just demonstrated that you are not capable…….of either defining these words…….or producing a consistent construction from what you have “claimed” they mean……….nor have you grasped the meaning available in the context they were used, you simply repeat your previous error…….and fail to address the explanation given to you or advance any valid argument.

        These so called unsecured unalienable rights are easily given up “voluntarilly” and easily removed by “force”,by other’s as well as nature itself………so there is nothing unalienable about them as rights……….and neither appealing to god nor waving this document, will
        protect you against nature or your fellow man……so this line of inquiry serves no purpose.
        The evidence for this is known as HISTORY……which demonstrates that your faith does not provide security, nor has government.

        To make matters simpler, this question has been reduced to that of a single “unsecured right”……life……..and the requisite actions of “government” which has claimed that it’s self admitted purpose is the “securing of said right”?

        So to repeat, since maintaining life requires meeting basic needs, like air, water, food, clothing and shelter……given governments role as securer of this claimed right, what function does it have regarding these requirements……..if any?

        Do you understand this question? If so, you can attempt to respond to it.

        • Frank

          It is impossible to educate a brainless moron such as you Galt. My definitions are totally valid as accepted by all of humanity that has normal or better mental capacity. Life is a right and cannot be taken from a person morally. You are right in this being finished because attempting to discuss intellectual items with someone of your level of development is not productive. Everything you posit is wrong even in your terrorist group that you claim.. Palestinian Liberation – HA palestine is not a nation to be liberated it is a terrorist islamic radical group of bottom feeding low lifes. And yes you are idealogically aposed to christianity since the teachings of Allah is against God and Jesus.

          • Deborah

            Don’t worry Frank. We just got some wonderful news today. Galt and needfulthings are not going to be very happy. The very liberal NEWSWEEK magazine has shocked and thrilled the GOP with an amazing cover on its latest edition, which just came out. We have reason to celebrate! Proof to Galt and needfulthings… THERE IS A GOD! How sweet it is.

      • GALT

        So Frank, that would be a “No.”……..which seems to another word you do not know the meaning of……….you take care now……..bye.

    • Art

      Oh so true.

  • roger gunderson

    They say that diversity is our strength, but I say its going to be our Waterloo. Different races will never ,ever live in harmony and therefore our ruin.

    • Robert Smith

      “They say that diversity is our strength, ”

      It certainly is. Genetically the best kids come from as diverse batches of DNA as possible.

      Diversity brings ideas.

      Sady what stands in the way is the zenophobia that doesn’t allow that strength to develop and new ideas to come forward.

      If we try to stay the same we die as a society. Something new will come along (for us it was the representative democract) that will overturn everything.

      Rob

      • Alex

        Mr Smith, again, is correct…

      • oh oh

        So says Mr. Smith.

      • Pathfinder

        What good is diversity without Freedom?
        If diversity is so great why did Bosnia – Hertzagovina
        (one of many) wind up such a bloody mess.

        It is FREEDOM that makes US what we are.
        Opportunity is the engine that drives invention.

        Diversity yields benefits when blended in a
        ” melting pot” (as in “E Pluribus Unam”)
        Apparently, the blending part still needs a lot of work.

      • Robert Smith

        You are absolutely correct Pathfinder: “Apparently, the blending part still needs a lot of work.”

        And thre are forces, particularly from the 1%, in America working to pit groups against eachother. The best example is the Republican “Southern Stratigy.” You can get a quick overview of it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

        Rob

    • Vicki

      roger gunderson says:
      “They say that diversity is our strength, but I say its going to be our Waterloo. Different races will never ,ever live in harmony and therefore our ruin.”

      Since we are all of the same race (human) it isn’t race that causes disharmony.

      • oh oh

        “Human race” is a misnomer. It’s human species and within the species are different races. Denying them, doesn’t make the issues that arise because of them (some perceived from bias, some factual from real differences), go away.

      • GALT

        oh oh…..the first eight words were accurate……….you should have stopped there.

      • Vicki

        oh oh demonstrates oh oh by writing:
        “Human race” is a misnomer. It’s human species and within the species are different races.

        You are correct that human race is really human species. However as galt said you should have stopped there. Oh oh.

        http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/184.aspx

  • MIKI

    Not listed for a fourth reason is that God in His majesty does not tolerate the very behavior that our country seems to uphold. We cannot murder unborn babies, embrace homosexuality and blatantly turn from God’s precepts without His wrath falling upon us. One does not have to agree with this, but that does negate the truth of it. Our nation WILL fall, even as the Roman Empire fell and the Babylonian Empire fell – the innocient with the guility. Only God’s mercy – if we ask Him – will heal our land. Is anybody listening??????

    • Lew

      I’m listening. In fact, it’s the number one reason we are crumbling. When we turned our back on God, the fall started.

      • Robert Smith

        That’s what they said about Rome when they went from many gods to one.

        Dark ages anyone?

        Rob

      • Larry K.

        you are so right!

      • snoops57

        Well said Lew. The Old Testament is loaded with examples of where when the Jews disobyed God’s law or turned their back on him where he judges them. The 40 days in the wilderness is one example. The Babylonian, Syirian captivity, Sodom and Gomorrah, the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70AD (Titus came through and leveled it to the ground pretty much). At some point in time God will judge this nation and it won’t be pretty. For those who don’t obey God’s word there won’t be any mercy. We are a nation that has the Bible and we were built on Biblical principles. Yes we have turned our back on God.

    • oh oh

      Rome never went from many gods to one. They just subsumed their pagan religion into a Roman Catholicism, a new polytheism that replaced its various gods with the Trinity, Mary and the saints. More subtle than their former, openly pagan religions, but no real resemblance to the Christianity taught by Christ and the apostles. Rome was doomed for all of the reasons foretold by the prophets, including the Christian movement, which had little to do with the bureaucratic Romish brand.

      • boyscout

        Were there really other varieties of Christianity at the time ? Do members of your congregation enjoy a good “Christmas” tree ?

      • Robert Smith

        Ah, are you trying to tell us that not all christians who call themselves such are really christians?

        My my… How should we sort them all out, each claiming to be “the one?”

        Rob

    • snoops57

      Well said Miki. I do believe there is an Old Testament scripture (either Jerimiah, Isaiah, Daniel or even one of the minor prophets) where it says “If my people will turn from their sins I will heal their land”

  • Patriot1776

    So we give up? Do we allow all of those who fought and died, giving their all to provide us with the freedoms that we have enjoyed to have sacrificed in vain? It isn’t that the republic that our forefathers had the insight to build that has failed. It appears to be apathy and pure laziness that have allowed the decline of this great nation. Our forefathers and each and every patriot that has willingly put their life at risk to stand for the principles embodied in our Constitution deserve better than to have their efforts relegated to the annals of history. Our children and grandchildren deserve to be left a better America than what we are presently providing. It is sad to think that we can look at what this country was, know what it could be, and not be willing to put forth the effort to make it great once again.

    America was built by strong men and women and quickly grew to be the strongest nation in the world, leading in industrialization, education, technology, military strength, economic power, every measure. Now, we face extinction due simply to the lack of willingness to get up off the couch and stand for what is right.

    • Robert Smith

      “It is sad to think that we can look at what this country was, know what it could be, and not be willing to put forth the effort to make it great once again. ”

      Ever notice how things began to slide in the 20th centuery? What did we get during those years?

      Drug laws that weren’t generally on the books. MOF, our forefathers grew hemp.

      Anti-abortion laws weren’t on the books.

      Even “In God we Trust” on the money is a 20th centuery invention.

      Yup, as the right tightens down Amerca loses.

      Rob

      • Patriot1776

        “Our forefathers grew hemp”, which was used for making rope. We did begin our slide in the 20th century. It was the rise of the progressive movement. It the movement away from God, away from the frontier spirit, away from the freedoms espoused in the Declaration toward the godless perversion that the left prescribes.

        “Yup, as the right tightens down Amerca loses.” Looking at the morals of today’s society, the virtues and the values, it doesn’t appear that the right has tightened down, but loosened up. As we have drifted from God and God’s laws, we have steadily declined.

      • Robert Smith

        “Prior to prohibition, U.S. politicians known for growing cannabis include some of the nation’s Founding Fathers and Presidents.”

        You can find that at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_politicians_who_admit_to_cannabis_use

        BTW, as an aside George Washington made a bunch of money by being a distiller. His equipment is still (hmmm, is there a pun there) at Mt. Vernon.

        Rob

      • Patriot1776

        Rob, from your own reference, . “Founding Fathers, including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, grew hemp, though there is no evidence that they knew of the plant’s psychoactive properties…” Thank you for backing me on this.

      • boyscout

        Patriot, T Jefferson wrote a treatise on growing hemp for “medicinal” purposes as distinct from growing it for fiber. Recreational usabe is not a new thing. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

      • APN

        The all-omnipotent smith speaks again: Drug laws that weren’t generally on the books. MOF, our forefathers grew hemp.

        Anti-abortion laws weren’t on the books.

        Even “In God we Trust” on the money is a 20th centuery invention.

        Yup, as the right tightens down Amerca loses.

        Rob
        ______________________________________________________________________
        Again, ROb, were you born this stupid or has YOUR HEMP made you this much of a “Dope”??

        Let me quote you some facts from THE FOUNDER of our republic. President George Washington unless you are so HIGH on your dope you don’t have any knowledge of our history:
        ______________________________________________________________________
        By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God’s intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:

        The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations. [1]
        _____________________________________________________________________
        While encamped on the banks of a river, Washington was approached by Delaware Indian chiefs who desired that their youth be trained in American schools. In Washington’s response, he first told them that “Congress… will look on them as on their own children.” [4] That is, we would train their children as if they were our own. He then commended the chiefs for their decision:

        You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention. [4]

        According to George Washington, what students would learn in American schools “above all” was “the religion of Jesus Christ.”

        SHAZAAM!!!!! and you progressive FOOLS assert the separation of Church and STATE in America. FOOLISH people!!!!!!
        _____________________________________________________________________

        I can give you numerous more examples of JUST HOW CHRISTIAN our founders were and it was the DRIVING factor in the FOUNDING of OUR republic.

        ROb, you are obviously the dumbest FOOL on this planet.

        APN

      • Robert Smith

        Note to APN: Our Constitution has NO mention of religion except to exclude any religious requirement for holdign office and that it will NOT establish a religion.

        The Founding Fathers may have said many things about their personal beliefs, but as far as America goes they were quite clear.

        Rob

      • APN

        ROb said:………..Note to APN: Our Constitution has NO mention of religion except to exclude any religious requirement for holdign office and that it will NOT establish a religion.

        The Founding Fathers may have said many things about their personal beliefs, but as far as America goes they were quite clear.

        Rob
        ___________________________________________________________________

        Note to the dumb dope smoker and all other STUPID progressives:

        Exactly! The vast majority of our founder were CHRISTIAN men and wanted to be certain that WE THE PEOPLE could not be oppressed by a man made “Entitlement RELIGION” instituted at the FEDERAL levels of government!!!

        Again, are you 12, 13, 15 or what!!! Dumb is an understatement!!!!! FOOL!!!!!

        APN

      • snoops57

        Hi Roberty Smith. I’m snoops57. I’m a right wing conserative Christian. The country is the way it is because Liberals want this nation to be like Europe a nation of free-loading, give me a hand-out, you owe it to me mentality. They hate God with their homsexuality, abortion, and anti-Christian racist statements just because Christians use the Bible to say hey abortion is murder, homsexuality is an abomination to God. Thats just for starters.

      • http://none Charlie

        Robert Smith,,,Can you prove you are on Planet Earth ? At what speed will you be traveling when King Jesus throws you at the black hole of outer space ?

    • vote American

      well said, patriot! If these kool-aid drinkers that are so fond of obamas entitlement philosophy dont wake up before nov. we very possibly wont have a country to leave to our kids or grandkids. If im lucky i may be in the 60% area, but i sure as hell dont blame the wealthy. If you want to get realistic why dont you put the blame, at least partly, where it belongs ..on this big greedy socialist government and the greedy politicians who benefit from it, selling out to some of that 1%. People who werent wealthy when elected but are now multi- millionares. You know ,people like harry reid,barrack obama,barney frank and numerous other so called progressives who arent in government to serve Americans but are there to serve their own greed or in obamas case his dads sick socialist ideas. If you brilliant liberals would wake up and think for yourself for a change you would see that our pres.is a community organizer using saul alinzkys play book to divide this country. (rule by rule) take money from the masses to cater to special interest. where and why do you think the idea of a1% &99% came from. how about the so called war on women? or the last hour amnesty to illegals?(and yes i said illegal as in againt the law) Shall i go on? how about his reversal on his homosexual views. convienient, huh or in the begginning he couldnt even say in the pedge of allegiance ..under God ,now he ends all his pandering with God bless America..If anyone is truly an American ,think about it before its too late for our heirs. This country is going the wrong direction and its going fast. Can we afford 4 more years like the last 3 and a half. I know i cant,can my, our, your grandkids????? And what scares me even more is ..what will a lawless administration do when they dont have concern for being re-elected after nov.?? America is being destroyed from within..financially,defensively.culturally and morally. Wait a minute,this sounds familiar,isnt that the exact plan of some of Americas enemies. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

  • “Homer”

    Miki…RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! Thisd is the reason why EVERY nation crumbles…this has happened before and is happening again! Truth is man never learns from the past! the U.S.A. has a long past to study and yet…they are repeating the same mistakes! WE are done…Praise God for all that HE has done w/this nation.Psa 150 Thanks sister!!

    • eddie47d

      Sure there is decadent behavior in the USA and it is practiced in every corner of this nation. We could easily blame Conservatives for their open attacks against homosexuality instead of accepting that every person is unique and different. Roger seems to pit races against each other which brings division and inflames small minds. Some want to always be king of the hill and will stop anyone from achieving their own dreams. If they can keep someone else down they will remain at the top attitude. I also dispise bad behavior whether coming from the left or the right. So we need to step down from our high horses and make it work. There are much bigger problems that will cause America to decline than some of these petty social issues. Rome and Russia declined because of expansionism and continual territorial grabs. They became so big and unwielding it collasped their financial structure.They couldn’t survive by taking from other nations for that only built up resentment from those conquered. That is extremely costly feeding and maintaining soldiers within their realm and putting down rebellions. As we expand militarily in this world we are doing the same thing. We pay these countries millions to maintain our bases and to feed our wars. That could eventually cause our decline sooner than later.

      • MIKI

        eddie 47d – your analysis is very true. If individual effort is not made to “step down off their high horse” then it would seem that no matter what othe honorable efforts are made to overcome our situation there is a gridlock of finger pointing. Remember as one finger points – 3 fingers are pointing at the one who is pointing.

      • flpi!

        You have hit the nail right on the head eddie47d!! Awesome points,, I have been saying this type of thing for years, if only we could get someone to listen and get back to basics.. Thank you for putting it so eloquently..

    • Robert Smith

      Homer says: “they are repeating the same mistakes! ”

      Well… Rome lasted for about 800 years with multiple gods, and all the stuff they had going on.

      Guess America has at least another 5 or 6 hundred.

      Rob

      • cawmun cents

        What Homer had to do with Rome is suspect….as I am sure sir that your understanding of the Greeks and the Romans well may be.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • Sol of Texas

        There were 3 epochs of Rome … 1) the Etruscan Kingdom, 2) the Republic, 3) the Empire. Each had distinctive characteristics. See: http://www.roman-empire.net/republic/rep-index.html for a timeline of the Republic (lasted ~410 years). Also, see Plutarch’s six biographies covering the demise of the Republic … Marius, Sulla, Pompey, Crassus, Casar, and Cicero. There are many interesting parallels to what is occurring today. I will not be surprised when the majority of Americans clamor for a “dictator pertpetuo” as did Rome in 46 BC. After all, this is what the government schoos have been conditioning their students for 4 generations and the parents (for the most part) have turned a blind eye to it throughout.

      • cawmun cents

        Before Progressive Liberal Democrats came to the forefront in the sixties,we never really experienced the volume of conditional issues,and problems which we are having today.
        So those must be the three things that are desroying our nation.
        Progressive Liberal Democrats…….
        I rest my case your honor.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

  • cawmun cents

    The reason we are crumbling is that we originally set out to be different thatn all the other nations….now there is a push amongst the progressives to become the same as the other nations.
    You cant have it both ways.
    Either you dare to be different,or you are the same as everyone else.
    The worldly viewpoint is that to be different is bad,because then everyone will hate you.
    Yeah!I love it when people who cant understand me,hate me.
    It gives me vitality to know that I must be doing something right for a change.
    The worldy point of view says that your rights come from men and their standard of gubment,and not from the Creator who is to be forever blessed Amen.
    That is what is being foisted on the American populace as we speak.
    It is communism no matter what Galt and the rest of the crowd tells you.
    You are being sold down the river and you will be slaves without liberty in their one world system.Cant anyone see that?Its like they are offering you what you left every other country in the world behind,to come here for.And it is not just blatant,it is insidious.
    But when in the course of human events,it becomes necessary to understand that these people who push these things on you,might as well be british soldiers working for King George III,then you know that what they say is really that you are no longer an American.
    They are brash and arrogant and hate God and his rules,because they get in the way of their control agenda.
    It is only about control.
    Do I have a link to show you to prove that this is true?
    Nope.
    Do I need a link to show me what male bovine excrement is?
    Nope.
    I can smell it before it comes into my field of vision.
    I dont need to proofread BS,or find the source,I already know that it comes from the back of the bull.
    But for those of you who cannot detect BS…..I suggest that you get ready for the battle of your life.
    Either that,or just go along to get along and live your cowardly ideals of what you think liberty is.But let me make this perfectly clear,you will not get any liberty from progressives.
    You will be led to believe all kinds of spectacular things will happen as a result of their progressive plan.But in a nutshell it is BS from the word go.
    A battle for the whole blue marble is about to ensue.
    It is said that it will be a time when 1/4 th of the planets citizens will die.
    For those of you who do math,that is about 1.75 BILLION people.
    That kind of number is staggering in its scope.
    There wont be enough people to bury the bodies.They will rot in sight of those whose liberties have long since faded away.Darkness will fall and everyone will hate the light.
    Who wants to live in thiws kind of new world?
    The progressive does.
    And if you follow them then so do you.
    Cheers!
    -CC.

    • Robert Smith

      In FACT America pretty much had universal health care in the beginning and up until the 20th centuery.

      The local “Doc” would do what he could for a chicken or Sunday dinner with the family, regardless of how humble the meal on the table was.

      Recently medicine is run by GREED.

      We do need to get back to where we were with universal health care.

      Rob

      • Patriot1776

        Was it “universal health care” or affordable health care? The greed that drives the cost of health care is the greed of those who wish for the best care, but don’t care to pay for the best. Those who want treatment for free drive the cost of care up for those who pay for their care. The other driving cost is the legal costs to protect doctors and hospitals from frivolous lawsuits and malpractice insurance, which, I don’t believe the local doc used to have to pay. The local doc had only the few tools in his black bag as opposed to the millions of dollars of medical equipment that today comprises the best available health care. You want the premium plan at the base rate price.

      • Johnny Q.

        That is so true. I remember that happening. Today you see a Nurse Practictioner or the other end of the scale, a “specialist”. With a whopping co-pay fee if you even have Medical coverage. Food factories to feed the USA and the world with no nutritional food complete with chemicals and no telling what is not helping either. Just a thought.

      • Robert Smith

        From Patriot: “Those who want treatment for free drive the cost of care up for those who pay for their care.”

        How come countries like Canada and England spend way less of their GNP than Americans do, yet they cover everyone?

        Rob

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith writes:
        “We do need to get back to where we were with universal health care.”

        Well then Rob please lead by example and go get your medical degree and get to work. I hear that there will be a need for many new doctors real soon now.

      • Robert Smith

        Vicki says: “I hear that there will be a need for many new doctors real soon now.”

        Probibly not. A few particularly greedy ones will reallign their practices to the carriage trade and continue.

        The rest will go along with the new ways.

        Besides, I don’t want to go to a doctor who’s in it for the money.

        Oh, and although they didn’t have malpractice insurance in olden days if a doctor had some sort of drinking or drug problem he didn’t last as a doctor long in a town. Folks knew about it and acted accordingly.

        BTW, are you one of those folks who claimed that the military would have mass resignations if gays were allowed? Didn’t happen, did it.

        Rob

    • eddie47d

      C.C. Most who originally came to America did so for a better life. They faced poverty or religious persecution at home and wanted to come to the land of milk and honey. People in Ireland were poor and starving so they came to America.Mainland Europe had their continual wars and people were sick of being conscripted to benefit the Elites so they came to America. England was a very religious country yet it was one religion set against another which brought so many to America.The very same scenario is being played out today and people from all over the world still want to come to America. No one likes changes that forces them to accept other cultures or people from around the world. But that is the way we are and always have been. The English settlers hated the Irish newcomers. They also hated the French but that was mostly over territory. Today so many hate Hispanics even though they had settled here first,(Florida). Instead of finding common ground we feel we have to pick each other apart and claim superiority over the next wave of immigrants. The big problem now is that we are becoming boxed in and its harder to expand our personal lives in land ownership(as one example). That makes some feel we are in decline because we have to work together instead of taking what we want as in the past. The American Indian has been in decline since we all stepped foot on this great nation so they know the experience. Time to embrace all or lose all.

      • Robert Smith

        “Most who originally came to America did so for a better life.”

        Yes, but it wasn’t generally for such nobel reasons as religion, though there were some who wanted to impose THEIR religion but couldn’t do it back home.

        Some were deserted sailors, others were criminals, others were simply looking for a way to be alone.

        Eventually they all learned to get along well enough to get rid of England.

        Rob

      • Proud to be a Believer

        When you say we hate the hispanics. This is not true, we hate illegals and they cost us billions in free stuff. We took in Asians when their country was in turmoil. They didn’t get free stuff, they started their own businesses, etc. etc. and just melted into our great melting pot. The ones we hate are the ones who come here and want to change our country, ie the muslims. If you don’t like what we stand for, then go home.

      • oh oh

        God promised us through the prophets that we would be overrun with aliens as punishment for our iniquity. As promised, these cankerworms, caterpillars, locusts and palmerworms are here to confuse, dominate and eat out our substance. But blind Judeo-Christians just ask for more.

      • eddie47d

        The Bible says to welcome strangers into your home and into your lands and treat them kindly. You honor neither so it works both ways. I have personally seen harassment of legal Hispanics here in Colorado so it is not just about illegals. Like the Chinese Americans there are numerous Mexican American business folks too.

      • http://none Charlie

        eddie47d,,, give us some scripture on this race issue,,,otherwise We will figure you don’t know Jack Dung Louie about The Bible…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

    • boyscout

      I have to agree with R Smith on this one. The local doc who brought me into this world lived in town with his neighbors and kept appointments with those who ran a continuous bill. Today, I can’t see the doc’s house through though the iron gates that sit before his half mile driveway. Today he’s financial cronies with big parma and rushes through appointments to get to his foursome with the toxin pedlars that call themselves pharma reps. Today he’s faced with multiple potential lawsuits because no one believes in his medicine any longer but do count on his status as a legitimized drug dealer.

    • Robert Smith

      From CC: “But let me make this perfectly clear,you will not get any liberty from progressives.”

      Totally incorrect cc. Totally.

      We leave it to each woman to decide what is the best medical care for her in the context of her own life.
      That’s freedom.

      We believe that consenting adults should have the freedom to marry who they want. That’s freedom.

      Progressives think that recreational drugs should NOT be limited to the christian choice of alcohol.
      That’s freedom.

      We can die when we choose, and get help if we need it.
      That’s freedom.

      We can choose medical care for all rather than being limited to who can pay.
      That’s freedom and life itself.

      Rob

      • cawmun cents

        I dont see how you equate secular law to Christianity.
        The laws are the way they are to control you,not for your freedoms.
        Who has the most abortions?
        Why that would be poor minority women who cant afford to bring one more life into the world,without having too much of a personal burden upon themselves.
        Who has the biggest problem with illicit drugs?
        The minority children who have no other way of generating income for themselves.So instead of working hard to come up out of the poverty they find themselves in,they rely on handouts from their Democratic congressperson,or turn to dealing drugs to make ends meet.
        Who has the highest rate of death from AIDS?
        The minority populace that is in a situation where in their Democratic neighborhoods there is so much illicit sex,drugs,and violence,that they do not care if they are pregnant (or making someone else pregnant)hooked on dope,or at risk of being shot on a daily basis.
        Where are the gangs which promote all these things found?
        Why they are found in the culture of corruption that they have been bred into for fifty years by the Democratic progressive left and its corruptive influence.The minority populace in the inner cities where Democrats have control of the politics
        Who are most often indicted for crimes?
        Why that would be minority youth that are repressed by the Democrats in control of their districts,and keep them at that level of poverty by promising them handouts which cause them to think everything is free,rather than having to work hard to obtain them.
        Who has the worst public sholastic attendence and achievement?
        The minority children who attend the schools in the inner cities,where they are taught by radicals to hate their nation.And who controls the monies which are sent to fund this promising education?The Democratic progressive left,thats who.
        Who perpetuates this particular condition?
        The Democratic Party,who wants to take advantage of these people by keeping them under their left-wing and have a base that votes for them,even though they never come up with a sound plan that lets those people work hard to come out of the political environment which coddles criminals and keeps the rest scared so that they want society to believe that they owe them a way out.

        The one thing conspicuously missing in their lives is the God that you say has no merit when it comes to fixing problematic conditions.
        Of course if you choose to leave God out of something and rely on Democratic progressives to bail you out of a situation that they are very comfortable keeping you in,it is very likely that God may turn His back on you and let you have your way.
        But what do I know?
        Apparently very little…….
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • http://none Charlie

        Robert, you are into heathen double think , not to mention violation of the first commandment ,,,King Jesus said “the truth will make you free”, see John 8:32, you are bound up with the small “g” god of death, destruction and lies ,called Satanic powers.
        There is no freedom apart from King Jesus and His Law Book,,,The Laws of King Jesus are Perfect, see that at Psalm 19:7, see liberty at James 1:25… But,,,to be able to know freedom and liberty you MUST get the Gift of The Holy Spirit and that is done by accomplishing Acts 2:38 WITH understanding of what King Jesus said at Matthew 6:33 but during the mean time Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

      • http://none Charlie

        Robert,,,what does a heathen Edomite know about freedom ? you are duped , deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be…

  • Joe Hammond

    Religion is one of the great problems of this world. Every nation marched with buckles stating “God is on our side!” in 1914 to the slaughter of the trenches. Allah has the Muslims in a rage to kill and spread their religion about the world. Yahweh is expanding its religion in the Middle East through any and all methods because its followers are the “chosen” people. Men are telling women what they can do with their bodies because “God” says so in a book of myths that has been rewritten how many times? 10 at least. When has there been a religion that has not used war and genocide to build a nation? The USA sure used them both to march from the Atlantic coast to the Pacific coast.

    Those who claim to follow JC: If he came back today and saw what has been done in his name, he couldn’t stop from throwing up!!!

    • cawmun cents

      So you are saying that the greatest nation in the history of mankind,the place where individual freedoms have been the light by which people have posterity,is just an illusion because of what some marxist professor has taught you?
      You argue against the light because you have no light inside you,and expect those of us who know the light to say we will join you in the darkness?
      You think that horrible things have been done in Jesus’ name?
      Do you think that Stalin was a Christian?Or Mao?
      Perhaps because Hitlers family had ties to Catholicism,you think that he was a Christian?
      It is because you fail to see the light,that you do not perceive it.
      You are the one who points the finger of blame at others and yet fails to recognize your own faults.You are more comfortable hiding in the shadows and blaming others for their transgressions.
      You are why America and its ideals are dying.
      You blame the Creator for what the creations do.
      That is just not sound reasoning
      Though I am certain that you peceive it to be.
      Cheers!
      -CC.

      • GALT

        I am thy CREATOR and I take no responsibility whatsoever for my creation!!!!!!

        If THIS is the product of PERFECTION and LOVE, you are in need of serious HELP!

      • Patriot1776

        Galt, God gave His creation the ability to think, and the freedom to make choices. He didn’t make robots, He made man. He gave us the ability to choose, we made the choice, we are responsible.

      • Robert Smith

        cc states: “You blame the Creator for what the creations do.”

        Guess “in his image” only applies when cc wants it to.

        Rob

      • GALT

        The ability to think? You mean like employing intelligent reasoning?

        Were this true this Creator would have been recognized for the petty little emotionally deranged tyrant the book describes……..and essentially a screw up of the first order.

        For those professing the christian adaptation, you all seem to forget that his “Kingdom is
        NOT OF THIS EARTH.” All you manage to accomplish when you come here threatening us with God’s wrath is to demonstrate both your ignorance and hypocrisy.

        Be content that you are going to a better place, and if you really want to be useful, try to do it in silence and as quickly as possible.

      • cawmun cents

        Does the invention say to the inventor,”You made me wrong and it is your fault!”
        No.
        So why then when God has given you freewill do you blame him when you decide to do as you wish?He gave you the ability to choose how to run your own lives.So why when he advises you to run them one way,and you come to ruin by running them your own way,do you then decide to blame Him?
        Because you are finger pointing jackasses,and you dont know what you are talking about.
        You even give the political party you belong to the animal which best reflects your attitude towards God,and then when you keep acting like that animal,you expect everyone else to wipe your bottoms for you.What is even worse is that then you turn and point the finger of blame at others,who…..even if they are as culpable as you are in the current situation regarding the woes of the nation,at least they know that you cannot ignore God and get away with it.
        You bray like the representative animal which reflects your party and say to God,”You made us wrong!”And,”This decision making process of ours shows how imperfectly you made us!”
        But what you do not know is that the Creator is being very patient with you by giving you time to change your ways.But again like the stubborness of the animal which best refelects your attitudes towards God,you simply refuse to listen or be prompted to do that which you do not want to do.
        So you write your own demise,and bray about how smart you all are that you can quip about the ruin of your nation while it is occuring.Do you think that makes you look smart?
        You are too foolish to even warrant me explaining how foolish you are.
        Back to the jackasses that you have become and refuse to turn from being.
        Keep it up,I am sure that God isnt listening,nor does He care,right?
        Then why are you still here?
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • GALT

        I couldn’t be bothered to blame a “fantasy”……..I don’t even care if you believe it……it’s not intelligent and if you want to waste your time in “death worship” be my guest………

        If you’re claiming to be a christian, you have way too many problems getting out of your own way to be taken seriously by anyone………your God doesn’t seem to care, and why you should be concerned about what other’s believe simply demonstrates your own lack of belief as well as an ignorance of your own religion.

        Your “faith” states that God will be the judge…….seems you have a problem with that, but it’s not my problem…….worry about what comes later, later……….you can gloat then….
        Mostly the rest of us ( non death worshipers ) are about the business of living, which requires actual reasoning skills and the application of intelligence to things that are REAL, so you might want to concentrate on where you are……and let your god deal with the here after, which none of you seem to be in a hurry to get to anyway and your behavior here and elsewhere probably explains the reason why.

      • Robert Smith

        cc says: “You think that horrible things have been done in Jesus’ name?”

        Crusades, inquisitions, chaining women to YOUR version of christanity that doesn’t allow for her to make medical decisions about her own body, shooting born doctors, “god hates fags”…

        I could go on.

        and on

        Rob

      • cawmun cents

        What you are saying is that there are people who claim to be Christians who are hateful.
        But what you may not take into consideration,is that not all people who claim to be Christians know Christ.
        Let’s say that you have heard of me, but I dont know you,and you meet someone else who says that they know me and believe they are my friend.But they persecute and hate you,and claim they are doing it on my behalf.
        They do this even though I warned them not to from the very beginning.
        Why would that equate to you hating me?
        What have I done to you?
        They acted in the manner they did,of their own free will,though I told them not to,yet when they persecute you,and use me as their explaination,you then turn and accuse me of doing these things to you,even though I had nothing to do with it on a personal level.
        You hate me as if it is my fault that they attacked you,and said that they did it at my bidding.
        But there is no evidence against me,because I have not done these things to you,but they have.But you choose to believe them when they say they have done it for me.
        How would you feel if you were treated,like you are then treating me?
        You would feel like you didnt want to get to know me better,wouldnt you?
        You would feel as if I had incorrectly accused you of what you hadnt done,correct?
        Why is it then that you lump all Christians in the same group,but fail to do so with other stereotypes?
        It is because you hate Christ.
        Not because you hate people who use him as an excuse for doing as they please to you.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • http://none Charlie

        GALT,,and others that THINK they are smarter and wiser than God / King Jesus, write a bible book called the “American Heathen Bible”, it will sell , then you can have some scripture reference … ha ha ha ha ah …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

  • The Blue Collar Man

    IMO, the only large group of people who could be able to save America, is the Tea Party. There are also a significant number of people who are not Tea Party, but share the same ideology.
    At my age, I’ve seen the decline of Americans in general, and the nearly worthless children and young adults, raised by their Dr Spock infected parents.
    No reward for being strong, independent, only a go along to get along mentality. Just slaves, really. I really wonder how they can dress themselves each day.
    I won’t be here to see the final collapse, which is about to happen.

  • Dave67

    Why do conservatives hate America? I hear more gloom and doom from this site than any liberal site. The funny part is, the conservatives and corporatists are doing more to keep this country down than any other group.

  • http://jgbrady.aegauthorblogs.com Jim

    Wow! There are some really enlightening and very sorry comments here. America is not anything but a group of people who either share the belief that this Nation is special or just another footnote in history. The truth is we are what we decide to be! There is no reason that this nation cannot regain its preeminence in the world. All we need to do is stop whining and get to work.
    There can be no greater lie than, “America is finished”! That is pure nonsense. If the millions of Americans who still have their heads screwed on right stand up and allow themselves to be counted and declare that they are ready to return us to “greatness” then there is no force on earth that can stop us, as long as we get the Federal Government out of the way. Remember, the Federal Government has NO money except what it steals from the people or prints, diluting the value of every dollar in your bank account or wallet.
    All the talk about the 1% vs the 99% is pure Marxist strategy designed to divide us, one against the other! “A house divided against itself, cannot stand”.
    The system of capitalism and liberty to become what you dream, is the greatest plan for human achievement and fulfillment ever devised. There is not now nor was there ever a need for “hope and change”! All we have to do is follow the path laid out for us by some of the greatest minds in history. For 232 of those years we have been a “great” nation where anyone could become anything, if he/she worked hard and kept his/her nose clean.
    The Socialists have proven time and time again that you cannot steal from one man to raise up another man! That lie has been told to the Soviets, the Chinese, the Cubans and the North Koreans. If you want to be taken care of by the government be prepared for a life of enslavement. For the price of their care is slavery!

    • GALT

      That’s very true Jim, history demonstrates as does capitalism, that stealing is the primary means by which one raises up ONESELF, rule number one as it were………and while true,
      it must for forms sake be viewed as “morally objectionable” in theory, hence the socialist
      reaction to it in the effort to get it back, or some of it……….unfortunately, those in charge
      have a hard time of getting past rule number one also.

      You do recall that what constitutes this nation is land previously occupied by others?
      Which is not to say that “theft” can not also be hard work, after all a good con takes effort
      and sometimes a faux nobel, but the pay off, the risk free derivative, complete with bail out when it turns out not be be WAS the ultimate capitalist achievement.

      Fear not……the BEST is yet TO COME.

      • Deborah

        GALT, I have read enough of your comments to know that you are nothing more than another self-described intellectual who really has no brains at all. You are like all the other left-wingers – angry, hostile, and very disrespectful. I get it – you are an atheist.

        I am not an evangelical christian but I am a Roman Catholic christian. I bet you’re just salivating at the thought of more fodder to throw in the face of organized religion. I advise you to control yourself and show some respect. It’s obvious you are full of hate. Whatever happened to the tolerance you liberals always identify yourselves with??? I think it is gone. I think you and your liberal friends have become so tainted by evil that you are now insane.

        Like Obama, you don’t really care about helping the poor – you just want to destroy the rich. Since America is capitalist and therefore a wealthy nation, you are he ll-bent on
        destroying America. How convenient for you that you will also destroy the Judaio-Christian foundation of this country. You get a twofer! Does that make you happy?

        I think you will be the one who screams the loudest when God banishes you to he ll on judgement day. You’re kind usually talk big, but when it comes time to show your true colors, you are a sniveling coward. If there is no God and no judgement day then you are lucky. Do you really want to go to your grave with that burden of uncertainty?

        I think religion is a necessity, if only because humans are inherently evil. Some more than others. The fear of God is there to help keep humans in line. We still have a free will to do as we please, but we will be held accountable for our actions in the end.

        After reading some of your hateful rhetoric against God, much of which broke my heart for our Lord, I can only say, I hope your soul rots in he ll. An evangelical might pray for your soul. Not me.

      • GALT

        No, Deborah, you DO NOT get it……..atheist, is far too weak a word to describe what I am………or what I am about…….nor are your flailing attempts to find a “label” that which is consistent with anything you have actually read and COMPREHENDED a demonstration of your intelligence or my supposed lack there of………

        If you wish to label me and my actual purpose, let me help….I am a P.L.F. and I am promoting P.L.F.ism! ( c ) “all rights reserved” It will take some time for you to actually grasp this and possibly appreciate it goals and intent………and perhaps join me, since despite all that nasty and irrelvant rhetoric…….there is no actual conflict between us, nor does your claim to being a Roman Catholic christian create one…….unless you wish for this to be true…..and persist in reamaining a w.i. A.L.F.

        To attempt to elucidate why this is TRUE, my understanding of your declared faith is that it establishes a “new covenant”, which of necessity abolishes the “old covenant”………and this new one consists of the following elements……
        .
        1.) To love god with thy whole heart, spirit, etc, etc, etc.
        2.) To love thy neighbor as thyself.

        While the first part is essentially subject to one’s understanding of your god, one is left with the second part, which is the means by which one demonstrates the temporal actions by which ones FAITH is exercised.

        As such there is no conflict nor objection between us based on the actual exercise of your faith in that context.

        Unfortunately, it does not appear that many christians actually understand or accept this “new convenant”, including you…….and you have provided a great deal of evidence in your diatribe to make any denials of this ….a waste of time, despite your claim of intimate knowledge of Jesus’s pain concerning the fact that I DO EXIST.

        If there is hate here……the source is clear, so you may want to re-examine the actual result of your “claimed faith” and your understanding and practice of it?

        • Deborah

          You really are a very conceited and disrespectful person. I’ve been reading your comments to other people. It rings of a person who is so insecure in himself that he must attack and belittle others to make himself feel more important and relevant.

          What is P.L.F. anyway? I hate this twitter trend where everybody uses acronyms. There are too many opportunities for misinterpretation. Are you a Palestinian Liberation Fascist?
          Oh how I do love Lebanese food. I’m not being disrespectful. I REALLY DO love Lebanese food.

          The remainder of your editorializing is just bla, bla, bla, blogging. Please get over yourself. You are not all THAT.

      • GALT

        Thank for the irrelevant non sequitor, Deborah……and since you are not disputing the description of the “new covenant”, you can now concentrate on practicing it…….as you have way more things to be concerned about on “judgement day”……..

        Can you feel the LOVE?

        • Deborah

          GALT – I already feel God’s love everyday. Much of my life has been blessings in disguise. I am very fortunate to have his strong spiritual guidance and feel his presence whenever I truly need his help. Perhaps he rewards me for standing up to people like you and needfulthings. I am not going to get into a tit for tat with you over the new covenant. You should worry less about spewing your religious and social psycho-babble and work on being a positive and productive member of society.

  • Doubting Thomas

    What tripe. Argent nonsense. Feeling sorry that your superior arrogance will falter and your dream of superiority will fail? Creeping socialism will replace your greed? The strength of a people comes from their joint cooperation and common welfare. Your greed has undermined the social welfare and corrupted the state. You have only yourself to blame. A house divided cannot stand. It is yourself that has doomed the state. Not the people. The state is the people, deny the people and destroy the state.

  • Alex

    Our Empire will crumble, surely—they all do. Big deal…

    The hope is that once this old hag of a country passes we can continue Human Progress untethered from old, tired dogma.

    Of all of History’s Empires, we have to sit alone at the top as the most Evil of Evil Empires.
    Yes, the British Empire was horrible, and the Soviets, and the Nazis, and the Spanish, and the Japanese, and the Portuguese.

    But it is we, and we alone, who succeeded in building our Evil Empire across the breadth of a continent in two short centuries, by using Genocide, Theft, Forced Labor, and Ethnic Cleansing to do so, all the while placing value on Material over Life….ALWAYS…

    The American Nightmare will one day be over (I know, I know, I set myself up for one of you witty Fright Wingers to say “The nightmare will be over January 2013″ Haha…).

    • Art

      You are one sick puppy. To argue with a person like you is an effort in futility

  • G. Smith

    A two party system owned by an oligarchy is doomed. Each side is programmed to insure the failure of the other as power is shifted back and forth. The opposition party is now obliged to take it’s role to extremes to insure that failure. There will never again be a successful Presidency, just the continuation of a predetermined status quo.

  • GRAMPA

    The author of three reasons is not aware of the tenacity and ingenuity of Americans!
    We have defeated the most powerful enemies on earth. It doesn’t matter if they exist within our borders. They will fall ,It only matters how much damage is caused until they do
    One of the greatest challenges are making the people on life support (welfare) understand that it cant last, and what will happen to them when it fails. Look at Germany, Hitler gained the trust of the people and then started the cleansing. Who would President Oboma cleans? Seniors, They are the only ones that can remember real freedom. The progressives don’t want this knowledge passed on. What does Brian Nash want us to do roll over and give up? America will not and never will give up. I have Grand kids, and a great grandchild on the way. I will not leave this world in this condition. A word to President Obama or whom ever tries to turn this nation into a socialist state, We the GRAY POWER are watching and are willing to act on all enemies both foreign and domestic. We the people have acted before we will act again.
    God bless America.
    (GRAMPA)

    • Mountain Saint

      Sorry Grampa, there is no spiritual reawakening in sight and this time the United States is going down…The one-world currency is replacing the worthless dollar. If Obama is reelected, there are prison camps in our future.

      • eddie47d

        Prison camps are only moronic and wishful thinking from the right to stir up trouble. It won’t happen under Obama just like the elections won’t be cancelled under Obama. Nothing but fear mongering since FEMA camps have been around for several decades.!

      • http://none Charlie

        Mountain , you are in violation of the 5th commandment , Grampa is to be treated with respect and honor even if he’s some what wrong,,and your fearful remark shows lack of faith in the power of God’s / King Jesus words … So,,, you better…………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

    • GALT

      Well Grampa, while that was all nostalgically inspiring, the only “freedom” you can actually claim……..was the blissful ignorance of the consequences of your own and other’s actions or inaction, a result of the overall ignorance of what was actually happening in the first place. That luxury is no longer available, yet you persist in the delusion…..as your impending shuffle approaches, but before you leave………you might want to consider,
      your great grand child will not be singing your praises given what you are actually leaving behind, despite the great lengths you have taken to avoid seeing it.

  • Mountain Saint

    Let’s face reality here. America isn’t the Promised Land. As long as we bless Israel and lived godly lives ourselves (like our founding fathers and mothers did) God will bless and protect us (Genesis 12:3)….But now that we are one of the most wicked nations on earth (2 Timothy 3:1-5) and we have an Islamic president who is trying to annihilate Israel (Psalm 83), God can not and will not protect us from economic ruins and nuclear holocaust (Jeremiah 25:32-33)… Judgment is coming. It is a fact that the United States will not be a major nation during the last forty-two months of the Terminal Generation (Matthew 24:32-34) The Russians will have nuked our nation out of existence (Ezekiel 39:6 and Jeremiah 25:32-33).

    • george Moberly

      You are correct. I was reading this in one of my bible’s recently. I have always known and believed that they who help Isreal and try to honor God prosper.

    • http://none Charlie

      Mountain Saint ,,,come off the mountain! but you certainly do NOT have “”"The Law”"”,,.you have been and are duped, deceived and deluded by the Judeo christian churches ,,,now don’t get upset! because We will give you every chance to put “The Truth” forward ,,,,BUT,,, that Truth can only come from The Bible or “Truth” that is related to or ties in with The Bible…. OK,,, now! prove who and what the so called state of Israel is and how it relates to The Bible,,, EXCEPT in name only ???????????????

      • Mountain Saint

        Charlie, there are many passages but the one that I saw recently is Ezekiel 37:21-25. God is going to make Judah and the other tribes of Israel one nation again and He is going to bring them back into “their own land” – Israel…King David in his glorifed body will once again rule over Israel, this time, forever..

      • http://none Charlie

        Mountain Saint ,,,OK , good show ,but , not enough evidence to prove Genesis 17, wrong… The number of people called out at Genesis 17 can NOT possibly fit into the geographical area known as Israel today, so, what’s the next Scripture you have OUT of harmony with the sum of God’s Words ? Could it be you are unaware that you are unaware of God’s equation for “Truth”? see that at Psalm 119:160… simply said , you are brainwashed regarding the “Sum” of God’s words … ALL God’s Words harmonize with The sum of God’s words to arrive at “”"Truth”"”,,,but during the mean time ,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

      • oh oh

        He already did, and they have been the people called by His name for centuries, “Christians,” the Lost Sheep of the Twelve Tribes of Israel (mentioned by Christ and James) who migrated to Europe and eventually America after their captivities in Assyria and Babylon and other migrations through the Mediterranean and Europe. These were the Lost Sheep Christ came for and the nations to whom Paul and the other Apostles preached. The trouble is, Christians have been deceived by a new religion, called Judeo-Christianity that came into existence less than 180 years ago, during the days of Darby, Scofield, Bullinger and other dispensationalists who all mistook the Edomite, Canaanite, Kenite Jews for Israel, and now put these non-Israelites that Christ warned us about, on a pedestal.

        Now the joke is on us as we support a foreign power hostile to many of our interests at the cost of billions every year with guaranteed perpetual strife and the risk of war because of our Judeo-Christian ignorance. This tragic heresy is historically new, but believed sincerely by the modern church as if it has always been, by otherwise well-meaning Christians who know nothing about scripture, history or their heritage. Not knowing who they are, or the covenants that still apply to them, they must seek inclusion by butchering the scriptures with anti-nomian and universalist heresies that, in combination with their replacement theology (i.e., “spiritual Israel”) guarantee the destruction of our nation. Unlike our forefathers, we are not only ignorant of the Adversary and his children, we spit in Our Father’s face by embracing them.

      • Proud to be a Believer

        Charlie I would recommend that you read the “Left Behind” series because it is written that you could even understand what is about to take place in the world. You can slam the Bible all that you want but in the end you will be the looser not the people who know the truth. If you would kindly read in the old testament the promises of God to Abraham which is called the Abrahamic Covenant, you may understand that the Jews are the chosen people always were and always will be. From Genesis in the old testament to Romans in the New Testament is basically for Jew only. After Paul of Tarsus is converted on the road to Damascus in Acts, do the believers in Jesus Christ come into play. Their books in the Bible are from Romans through Philemons. Those books are not for the Jew. The true believers who believe with all of the heart and sole, 1 Corinthians 15, versus 1 through 4 are the saved believers who will be snatched from the earth before the tribulation starts. The tribulation will last for seven years which will cleanse the earth of non believers as only believers can go into the millenium. You have now received the entire basis of the bible for believers in Christ in a nutshell.

      • oh oh

        The Jews are not Biblical Israel. They are descendants of the Kenites, Canaanites and Edomites, something that many of them openly admit. The Old and New Testaments were for Israel, all of Israel, including those Israelites Paul and the Apostles sought and preached to. They knew who they were and that’s why they went to Galatia, Corinth and other places where scattered Israel had migrated (James: “Greetings, to the Twelve Tribes scattered abroad”). Even Rome was composed of Israelites who had left Egypt pre-exodus and ended up first in Anatolia (Troy) and later Italy. Judeo-Christians look over these things because they are steeped in dispensational dogma from Moody and Dallas Theological who have botched the scriptures simply because they didn’t know who we are and, instead, teach us fairy tales about the Rapture, Jesus being a Jew, the Jews being Judah and other doctrines that confuse, excuse accountability and encourage the sloth and ignorance that has allowed our country degenerate. Meanwhile, the Adversary is having his way with us, and most of us don’t even know who the players are.

      • http://none Charlie

        Proud to be a believer ,,,,ain’t no such thing as believe only Salvation,,,see Mark 16:16 , Acts 2:38 and others,,,,NOW to top that off ,,,NO where in The Bible will you find the verse that says “the Jews are God’s chosen people,,,BUT,,,you will find all over The Bible that “the children of Israel are God’s chosen people ,,,see 1 Chronicles 16:13, Matthew 15:24 and many other verses ,,,BIG difference between 1 and 12 ,,,the blood line Jews are only one tribe among the 12 tribes of the children of Israel … What is your “Gift” from Acts 2:38 ?

        • Proud to be a Believer

          If you are going to post something here make sure you know what the blue blazes you are talking about. I am still laughing that the Jews are only one tribe. For your information there are 12 tribes, they are named in the old testament etc etc. Yes they are the chosen people why do you think they have not been wiped off the map like a number of other tribes, yes they have been through a lot but that is also predicted and they still have a lot more to go through because of the things that they did against God but in the end, they will reign during the millennium and you best believe it.

      • http://none Charlie

        Proud to be,,,We saw NO Scripture in your comment , to back up your point,,,nit wit one proves The Bible WITH The Bible , OR other related books that HARMONIZE with The Bible… FIND THE SCRIPTURE that says the Jews are God’s chosen people … Allow Us to save you some hunting time …IT AIN’T THERE!!!… Do you know what the psychological factor of “”Cognitive dissonance” is ?? Well you are there ,which means some one has “Brainwashed” you on the issue … NOW, if man says something and the Bible plainly says something else , which one are you going to believe ???
        Could it be that you are duped ,deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be, AND the Judeo christian churches ??? But,, during the mean time ,,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

  • george Moberly

    I was surfing Bible Scripture on my computer one night. I entered In the beginning on the keyboard, It sent me to a U-tube site with a vidio of the Apollo 8 crew reading the bible
    verses in Genisis of the creation. It was very powerful, with pictures of the earth from space. It occured to me that we have really lost our vision in this Nation. An example the Chick Fil-A uproar. Back in 1969 when we put men on the moon We as a country would have agreed and stood behind the CEO of Chick Fil A almost bar none. What happened I thought

    • eddie47d

      Okay you started it! Back in the 1920′s the KKK had control over many aspects of America and many people were subject to their propaganda and division. They proclaimed their acts in the name of God. That was accepted as the truth and the light and few fought back at the time. It took decades to overturn their hatred so what happened? Gay hate in the name of God should also be rejected so I don’t think you are correct in that analysis. Time will tell besides we just had a unique Mars landing and that was a joyous moment for about 2 days and now few care. Time is fleeting and precious don’t waste it in drawing false battle lines. We are still a great nation although financially wounded we can recover.

      • george Moberly

        It wasn’t a battle line that I was drawing when siting the Chick Fil A uproar. It was just a statement that the CEO of Chick Fil A has a !st amendment right to state what he believes. Just like you have a right to disagree sir. Or my right to believe and quote God’s Holy word, and the result if disregarded. God Bless you and may you have a nice day.

      • eddie47d

        Gotcha (understand you) George,Bless you and thanks for your kind reply. Don Cathy has every right to speak his mind and proclaim his personal religious views. When he took his personal views and gave money to organizations that attack gays then that is where I draw the line. That puts him in favor of treating gays as unequal and of a lesser God. I do like Chic-Fil-A and think they sell good food in a healthy environment so I will not be boycotting that chain. Dialogue has to change the way people feel about each other so we have to be careful about pumping up the volume.

      • http://none Charlie

        eddie47d,,, does God / King Jesus hate any particular group of people ??? see that group at Malachi 1 and Matthew 15:24… Do you think the KKK knew these Scriptures ??
        Yes they did ,,,BUT,,, the KKK was / is a little lax in Praying daily, Matthew 6:9—13… Could it be that King Jesus was a “Confederate” from the Southern Tribe of Judah???
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38…

      • oh oh

        Yes, He “hated Esau” and the Edomites are a people for whom he “hath indignation forever.” We lov’em, He hates’em. They crucified Him, we embrace them. He warned us, even said they are tares that will be gathered and thrown into the fire for destruction. The prophets warned us about these bad figs, the Edomites who were scatted in 70 AD to become a curse to the nations (us). But Judeo-Christians know better than Christ and the prophets. Go figure.

  • Brad

    The original concept of government, even with folks that did not take the Bible entirely at face value was of “Christian Self Government”. Government from the BOTTOM … UP. So that those that represented the ‘people’ were in fact just LIKE the people. They were not pro pols expected to be doing government full time. The moment that government became a full time job we were doomed to a short future. Why? Because it’s the full time nature of gov now that allows for corruption and nothing else really.

    The next and foundational step was to remove the nations Christian base and presuppositions. Even with a nation wide revival the full time congress will still be dolling out favors and taking money and favors in return. They can pass ‘laws’ about such stuff all they want, but the lack of integrity is in the HEARTS/MINDS of those who govern. Without a change in the person laws only serve to show how badly in need of reformation the country is.

  • Mohican

    America will crumble because we have 15,000,000,000,000.00 plus on the books (who knows what is on the “off the books” records) and neither the congress or the president will reverse course.

    half the country has no immediate stake in reversing course, and it would take some vision beyond their immediate needs to help reverse course.

    • Robert Rashbrooke

      To Mohican

      The $15 trillion National Debt is simply not repayable. You may have noticed that neither candidate is actually talking about the debt, only about the deficit. which they possibly can do something about.

      To piners for past glory

      We cannot return to the ‘good old days of yesteryear’ because the conditions that existed then are no longer existent; for example, there is no longer any untitled land to allow people to be given a plot to provide them with a starting point. Much of America’s greatness involved invading some sovereign nation in order to control them FOR THE BENEFIT OF AMERICA. Surely, no one expects us to continue on that type of course. If we refuse to let other nations dictate how we behave and operate, why should we expect them to find it ok for us to do it to them..

      No. new conditions exist and we now have to accept them and behave accordingly. even if it means giving up our “No 1 status”. We now have 300 million people to look after in this country and we need to change our attitudes significantly, especially towards those who refuse to accept the laws necessary to live peacefully and non abusively in harmony with our peers, rather than give THEM extra consideration because they have transgressed those laws. And our politicians need to rescind a whole bunch of restrictive laws they have quite unnecessarily passed and utilize some of those they currently ignore.
      Unfortunately we live in a two tier country whereby if one is rich and connected one is treated differently to the hoi polloi.

  • raw

    Many kids who are never spanked and never told, “No,” end up being parasites…says it all.

    • Robert Smith

      And many kids who are hit become misfits and abusers themselves, just as those who are molested by priests often have problems.

      Rob

  • sabulaman

    Mohican, you hit the nail on the head. We talk about the slow decline, but the defecit will bring a swift death to this country in just a few more years. We all blame uncle Harry for not producing a budget in the last three years, but he can’t produce a budget. He can only control how much more money to borrow. Our government spends more than they take in. When has that ever worked? Tough decisions have to be made, and it’s gonna be painful for each and every one of us. It can be done, but the truth for once has to be dealt with.

  • SittingMooseShaman

    …now, if th’ USA does go belly up…like with most failed republics…as witnessed in the dissolution of the USSR…a group of leaner nations emerges…all set to their several new courses. …yet, there does exist one, incredibly huge element that sets the old communist Soviet Unions’ collapse apart from any ‘Fall of the House of Usher-Sam’, should such occur…and it IS an important one: The Soviet owed very little -if any- debt to ANYONE or NATION outside the “Iron Curtain”…
    This is quite another situation with these several United States.
    The uber-rich GOP/Socialist Democratic Partys’ collusive, massive & hourly-compounding debt…to the ‘Federal’ Reserve Bank(privately owned…European, Old-Blood Old Money Family Bank controlled)…and to those nations floating the U.S. Dollar…
    Every parcel of real-property/structures, equipment and holdings the alter-nation of the District of Columbia(‘USA’) owns…that is all ‘parks’, ‘monuments’, reserves(including the oil res.), preserves and coastal waters…their mineral-rights/uses are COLLATERAL and LIEN against that debt!
    If the USA should ever default…our creditors…well, it’s no different than with a folding corporation…or bankrupt land-owner…
    What a mother%#@&**!! vile mess these money/power-greedy politico creeps have made of this, our home…

    • Frank

      I am not going to provide a link (again) to the definition of REPUBLIC because I am sure you can google it if you are interested. Several times I have been told dont think something is something just because of its name, and in this case I hand down the same advice to you.

      The USSR was in no imaginable way by any stretch of the imagination a REPUBLIC. It was controlled by Russia and its Communist party which was a facist totalitarian dictatorship. There was no form of representation to a VOTING population within the USSR. They controlled by fear and by repaying disloyalty by summary execution.

      It is also arguable what caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. By my research and from speaking with Russian friends, it appears that the main downfall was caused by its attempted state socialism. When the citizens do not have improved standards of living equal to the efforts they put forth they have no incentive to produce above the minimum required. The products produced by their industry (with the possible exclussion of military) were extremely inferior and not pursued for consumption by other countries. Their ISOLATIONISM also prevented trade with other nations. Russians were forbidden to possess foreign currency. The Russian Ruples we virtually worthless in global monitary exchange rates.

      So, using these factors it would appear that it was the Soviet Unions economy (economic policies) not expansionism that destroyed it. I will grant that, it did become virtually impossible to maintain a strong enough military in Russia to keep control of the enslaved nations. But, again, this was due to its failed economy. You cant build and maintain a strong military if your citizens dont have the incentive to produce at a high level.

      Now, since some of my factors are based on what might be called the OPINIONS of former Soviet citizens, I am more than willing to intertain opposing views from someone with first hand PERSONAL experience from living in and dealing with the Soviet Union.

  • chuckb

    mohigan, the only way out of this mess is first get rid of the bolsheviks and rino republicans. impose a flat tax on everyone, that means everyone, at this time half the country is paying no tax and the bolsheviks have spent us into oblivion, cutting tax relief for the 1% won’t even make a ripple in our debt.
    the politicians have allowed illegals to pour into the country, mostly for the expected vote they will gain and they have practically destroyed our welfare system. the great society has fathered a welfare nation, now we have people only taking and producing nothing in return.
    clean washington out, send barry and moochella back to kenya, open the borders heading south, reduce the government employees, turn government back to the states and if they fail, or if any big business fails, no bail out. isolate california and new york, no government help, they know what their problem is, it’s called liberalism, welfare and dam the constitution.

  • Mountain Saint

    There is only one way to save the country and that is provide Middle Class jobs to our people, not the illegal aliens. First, deport all illegal aliens and give their stolen jobs to our 22% unemployed. Presidents Eisenhower and Truman did it and we never had a more happier and prosperous time.. Second, impose stiff tariffs on imports and bring back tens of millions of Middle Class jobs. Let’s do manufacturing here and get our people off welfare and paying taxes. And, third, terminate the HlB visa program and give these 17,000,000 high end jobs back to our educated people. Enough is enough.

    • cawmun cents

      My scripture says that all fall short of the glory of God.
      Having made that scripture known,it is with sad regret that you continue to put forth human ideas about how to fix our nation.
      Repentence is to turn back toward God,not to feel sorry for your transgressions.
      Christ died so that you need not worry about guilt,but the returning to God after having turned away is necessary for forgiveness to be complete.
      If we do not return to Gods grace,if we do not turn back from our FROWARD ways,then all the human plans in existence will not heal our sick nation.
      It is not about a certain religion,nor is it about separation of church and state,it is about ignoring God and thinking that you can get away with it.
      When a nation moves to do this,it has already written its own demise.
      Here is where that is happening now.
      Therefore we are writing our own demise.
      Of course this is only my humble offering at this time,but many of you may live to see it come to fruition.
      For those who live long enough to see the destrcution complete,whether it is me or not,I pray.
      -CC.

  • Pathfinder

    What good is diversity without Freedom?
    It is Freedom that makes us what we are.
    Diversity gives us the benefits of many cultural
    backgrounds blended in a ” melting pot’
    as in “E Pluribus Unam”
    The blending part still needs work.

  • Average Joe

    “Reasons Why America Will Crumble”

    REASON NUMBER 4:

    I used to hear people say “Put garbage in, get garbage out”, now it seems that with the liberal mindset and that of Non-thinking Americans…. if we put knowlege in…they still spew garbage out.

    I think that my biggest worry is…What is going to happen to America on December 24th, 2012? Why that date? On Demember 24, 2012, the 99 year contract with the Federal Reserve ends. If you have read “The Creature from Jekyll Island”, then you probably know what I am talking about.

    For those who don’t know:

    In 1910 the US Corp. (yes, Viginia, the District of Columbia is a Corporation and not our government),

    [ The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a “municipal corporation” to govern the District of Columbia. Considering the fact that the municipal government itself was incorporated in 1808, an “Organic Act” (first Act) using the term “municipal corporation” in 1871 can only mean a private corporation owned by the municipality. Hereinafter we will call that private corporation, “Corp. U.S.” By consistent usage, Corp. U.S. trademarked the name, “United States Government” referring to themselves. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 places Congress in control (like a corporate board) and gives the purpose of the act to form a governing body over the municipality; this allowed Congress to direct the business needs of the government under the existent martial law and provided them with corporate abilities they would not otherwise have. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of the District of Columbia.]

    had run up a substantial debt with several rich families that had been financing US Corp. schemes for years. US Corp was short on money (being the spendthrifts they are) and could not continue to opereate, nor could they pay back thier debt to those wealthy families. Being the big spenders that US Corp. was and is, they needed more money to play with, so they approached thos same wealthy families and asked for more. The families laughed at them…”you can’t pay back what you owe….and you want more?….LOL…NO!”

    [Corp. U.S. began to generate debts via bonds etc., which came due in 1912, but they could not pay their debts so the 7 families that bought up the bonds demanded payment and Corp. U.S. could not pay. Said families settled the debt for the payments of all of Corp. U.S.' assets and for all of the assets of the Treasury of the United States of America.]

    …”But, but, our nation will falter and die without more money”, cried US Corp. “please tell us what we can do to appease you, so that we may continue our addiction to spending money” they begged. “Well then”, says the wealthy families, “maybe we can help you, if you are willing to let us have control of the issuance of your currency and provide us with some guarantee of the return of our money”.
    “Oh my”, cried US Corp. how can we give such a guaranty without arousing suspicions from our citizens?”they pleaded. “Don’t worry your pretty little heads” exclaimed the families, “We’ll work out the details for you”. “You fellows are just too kind” replied US Corp.

    So, the families secretly met on thier private Island and hashed out all of the details and submitted “thier” plan ( and what a wonderful plan they had…for themselves).

    [ As 1913 began, Corp. U.S. had no funds to carry out the necessary business needs of the government so they went to said families and asked if they could borrow some money. The families said no (Corp. U.S. had already demonstrated that they would not repay their debts in full). The families had foreseen this situation and had the year before finalized the creation of a private corporation of the name "Federal Reserve Bank". Corp. U.S. formed a relationship with the Federal Reserve Bank whereby they could transact their business via note rather than with money. Notice that this relationship was one made between two private corporations and did not involve government; that is where most people error in understanding the Federal Reserve Bank system—again it has no government relation at all. The private contracts that set the whole system up even recognize that if anything therein proposed is found illegal or impossible to perform it is excluded from the agreements and the remaining elements remain in full force and effect.]

    On December 23, 1913, while the majority of Congress was sitting at home for the holidays, a small group of men gathered to sign into law, the Federal Reserve Act.( with a 99 year contract) They signed into Law the 16th Amendment on February 3, 1913 assuring the families that should US Corp. fail to make thier payments, the citizens would be happy to make those payments for them through taxation….wasn’t that nice of them? Next, to make sure that the people wouldn’t wise up to the “scheme” and repeal thier handiwork…they Passed(?) the 17 th Amendment on May 31, 1913…changing the way our Senators are placed in office ( before, they were appointed by the governor of each state and subject to immediate recall if they didn’t do thier job). While we have the illusion of representation,in actuality, we do not. BTW, we haven’t lawfully seated any of our representatives since May 31, 1913.

    [Almost simultaneously with the last fact (also in 1913), Corp. U.S. adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th amendment. Tax protesters challenge the IRS tax collection system based on this fact, however when we remember that Corp. U.S. originally created their constitution by simply drafting it and adopting it; there is no difference between that adoption and this—such is the nature of corporate enactments—when the corporate board (Congress) tells the secretary to enter the amendment as ratified (even thought the States had not ratified it) the Secretary was instructed that the Representatives word alone was sufficient for ratification. You must also note, this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution, which already had its own 16th amendment. The Supreme Court (in BRUSHABER v. UNION PACIFIC R. CO., 240 U.S. 1 (1916)) ruled the 16th amendment did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations and government employees. We agree, considering that they were created under the authority of Corp. U.S.
    Next (also 1913) Corp. U.S., through Congress, adopts (as if ratified) its 17th amendment. This amendment is not only not ratified, it is not constitutional; the nation's Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected, which is the subject matter of this amendment; therefore they cannot pass such and Act and then of their own volition, order it entered as ratified. According to the United States Supreme Court, for Congress to propose such an amendment they would first have to pass an amendment that gave them the authority to discuss the matter.
    Accordingly, in 1914, the Freshman class and all Senators that successfully ran for reelection in 1913 by popular vote were seated in Corp. U.S. Senate capacity only; their respective seats from their States remained vacant because neither the State Senates nor the State Governors appointed new Senators to replace them as is still required by the national Constitution for placement of a national Senator]

    Now, here we are. US Corp. is in debt to the tune of 16 trillion dollars to the “Families” and the contract is about to expire. What happens if those families (AKA Fed Reserve) decide not to renew that contract …and demand payment in full? US Corp. must then relinquish all assets to the Families….that would include District of Columbia and all of it’s territories and holdings….Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa…Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac ring any bells? How about GM,Chrysler? Anything that US Corp has holdings in…must be reliquished to the Families. OH wait, it gets better…all banks are also tied to the families…guess what?…Do you have a loan on your house? Car? business? Have you bought anything using credit cards?…guess who will own those as well?
    I am guessing that since they will pretty much own the nation with few exceptions…. they can tear up that pesky old Constitution and run the nation any way they see fit….after all, it is no longer our nation…it will be…. thier nation…
    End Game? You betcha…. Property paid for? No problem…they will take it by force…
    Don’t like it? Too bad…meet thier friends from the UN….see the big guns? Submit or die!

    Please visit: teamlaw. org for more on this. I recommend that you start by reading “Historical Outline”
    If anyone feels that these facts are in error, do the research and post your findings along with your proof of those findings.

    Best Wishes,
    Good Luck,
    May God have mercy on us all
    AJ

    • TIME

      Dear AJ,

      Man O Man are you going get old “V” POed, he can’t grasp the simple fact even with the Ton of Evidence to sustain it, { that we all are a Corporation,} owned by the “Corporation known as the United States Inc..”

      Being a Messenger is not easy, afterall I have been called so far a Commie, A Marxist, A Drug addict, a Freak of nature, a F -ing A H.

      On a positive note, let me Thank You in advance for opening your mind and taking a good hard look, {its not easy.}

      I also agree with you; “May God have mercy on our souls!”

      Peace and Love.

    • http://none Charlie

      AJ,,,or you aware that fraud voids a contract ?? ,,,is the Constitution a contract?…

      • TIME

        Dear Charlie,

        Thats a fact, but saddly only in “COMMON LAW” – again saddly my firend we have not had Common Law in this nation in over 150 years.

        We are under, “Admirality Maritime Law” as well due to the fact that we are Corporation – as in all of us, as well each state and the United States Inc. we are also all under “UCC” Laws.

        To add to this absurd theft of our rights we also have the City State of the “District of Columbia” of whom also follows Lex Fori, as they / we – are the New Roman Empire, aka “A Fascist State”
        There are no D’s nor R’s or even I’s. Its just Corporations and the Criminals who run said Corporations.
        Thus its “Check & Mate”

        These were not stupid people that came up with all these special
        plans.
        They have more intel than we and they also control all intel that 99.999% of all Americans view or read.
        So again “Check & Mate.”

        My friend, Hard TIMES are coming – and very very soon!
        As in the Great Depression will look like a sunny day in the park in May, so as far as the Law, saddly we don’t have any form of RECOURSE.

        Peace and Love

      • Average Joe

        Charlie,

        You write:
        “AJ,,,or (?) you aware that fraud voids a contract ??”

        What does it matter if we have no courts, which by the way, we don’t ( No Constitutional courts have existed in this country since 1938) Look up “Erie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins, 304 U.S. 64, 58 S. Ct. 817, 82 L. Ed. 1188 (1938)” with which to present our case? This will be justice at the barrel of a gun….
        Charlie, Have you ever successfully argued a case before a court of bullets or bombs?
        Trust me, the likely outcome will be a loss on your part.(BTW, they [ the Families] didn’t pay for any of this with goldor silver either, as required under Article 1 Section 10 of the Constitution…but those bullets and bombs won’t hear that argument either).
        No matter how many or how big your guns are, I can pretty much assure you…they have more…and bigger.

        Best Wishes,
        AJ

      • http://none Charlie

        Time + AJ = Lawless,,,ha ha ha ha ha ,,,you mean to tell Me that The King of America since The Mayflower Compact has been voted out by the CEG (corrupt evil gubmint)???
        Well,,,why did King Jesus tell us to Pray Matthew 6:9–13 ??? “”Thy Kingdom come ,thy will be done ON Earth as it is in Heaven”"”,,,IF,,, Leviticus 25,26,27 don’t fix the Federal Reserve,,,then,,.,We will have to accomplish Luke 19:27,,,BUT,,,during the mean time,,,.
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38…

      • http://none Charlie

        Time, AJ,,,forgot to mention , Yes I have beat the local court twice and I was My own Lawyer , but did hire an Attorney once,,,you talk about “crooks” ,,,Attorneys are “Licensed crooks … The key is “”"JURISDICTION!!!”"” what is your Jurisdiction ? ,bet most on this site don’t even know the Black’s Law dictionary definition of the word …

      • TIME

        Dear Charlie,

        Yes, Charlie I keep telling everyone here that they need an older copy of Blacks Law. {Understanding what words really mean} is a major key.

        Also I have a JD from GT also an MBA, never sat for the bar, I sat at a few bars back in the day. LOL. ;-)

        As an Artist / Musician I can tell you with out hesitation -
        { if you don’t understand the contract } “YOUR SCREWED!”

        Peace and Love, Have a Blessed Day

      • Average Joe

        Charlie,

        While it is admirable that you know about jusrisdiction, jusrisdiction will be a moot point when there is a gun against your head.
        There are a few of us here on this site that know about jurisdiction ( we know who and what we are ) We know about Black’s Law Dictionary and the various “definitions”… some of us even know the difference between being a “Natural” human being and being a “Corporate Person”, the difference between being a US Citizen taking up “residence” and a natural human making thier “domicile”. Heck most of us even know that excepting mail with a zip code…actually places one within a “Federal Jurisdiction” ( the first number in a zip code is the Federal District).
        We know about using thier own laws against them ..and most of us never make it into the courtroom in the first place ( so sorry to hear that you did).
        It may even suprise you that we also know about recourse (UCC 1-207 & UCC 1-308) and remedy (UCC 1-103). (Myself and Time, happen to be among those people). I could go on and on with what I know, but time and space are limited.
        While it is nice that you have such a high opinion of your mental prowess, it might be in your best interest to realize that you may not have all of the answers…and that there are others who may know as much (or more) than you…maybe even the target of your supposed “mental superiority”..and that listening once in a while may be in your best interest….you may actually “learn” something more than you “think” you know. Being a condecending arse doesn’t help you win friends nor does it inspire others to listen to your message or share thier info with you.

        You’ve missed the point of the original post….Government is force…when the SHTF, there will be no courts other than the ones they set up to determine who is worthy of living and who is not…period. And no amount of arguing about rights and contracts will matter to them…period. You will either bow down before them and except thier way…or you will die, it’s just that simple( Even the Bible tells us this). (I will choose death over slavery, but will attempt to take a few of them along for the ride before going).

        In the future,you may want to reconsider your tone when trying to spread your message…since how the message is delivered…is just as important…as the message itself.

        Best Wishes,
        AJ

      • http://none Charlie

        AJ,,,you do NOT understand the TWO definiitions in Black’s for the word “Jurisdiction”…
        Primary ,meaning “Authority of Law”,,, secondary meaning “Venue”… Venue simply means the ground area that the Authority of law is exercised in… SO,,, The Bible IS A JURISDICTION!!! … Prove it wrong !.. you nor anyone else in America can prove The Bible wrong…
        Now ,,what you are confusing as arrogance on My part is just My confidence and boldness in King Jesus and His Powerful Law Book,,,The King’s Law Book has ALL the answers to ALL the problems in America ,,,BUT,,,one MUST get The Gift of The Holy Spirit to see “The Bible decoded by The Holy Spirit”… You and most on this site are not “True” Christian according to Acts 2:38… so during the mean times ,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

  • chuckb

    average joe, thanks for the history lesson

  • testament2012

    The problem in America today is lack of knowledge Of God’s word, Knowledge applied becomes wisdom, seeing the world through the eyes of Jesus, hence putting on the mind of Christ, offers a much different view of this world and its inner workings. A sound relationship with the most high God is paramount to any lasting measure of success.

    • http://none Charlie

      testament2012,,, good points,,,but,,,you did not tell us how to get the Salvation of King Jesus …
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

      • cawmun cents

        First tell them how the man on the cross next to Jesus,performed Acts 2:38.
        Then start from there.-CC.

    • http://none Charlie

      comun cents,,,the guy on the cross was given a direct commission from King Jesus , but routine salvation is per The Book.. Acts 2:38…

      • cawmun cents

        Explain to me then,how he treated that man differently than he does you and me.
        How could God do that?
        -CC

      • http://none Charlie

        cawmun,,, The King said ,”ask and you shall receive”, the thief ask for forgiveness and got it,,,the same way King Jesus healed some,,,read John chapter 1 and see how Powerful the spoken word of King Jesus is …The written word of King Jesus is also Powerful ,,,see Matthew 4 where King Jesus said it is written to refute the Devil…
        REMEMBER ! King Jesus has ALL Power that His Father God has see Matthew 28:18..
        King Jesus IS God !!!

      • cawmun cents

        Charlie……
        You didnt answer my question.
        I asked you how it is that God would treat you and I differently than the man on the cross next to Jesus?
        That would be giving preferential treatment would it not?
        How could you then make a case that God is fair and just,to those who do not know Him?
        The man asked for forgiveness and Jesus gave it to him,that part I understand.
        But why would God then make it so we (meaning you and I) have to do something different for our salvation?
        That doesnt seem in keeping with God’s own Word.
        The key is that you have to rely upon Jesus’ work,and His work alone.
        That is why faith makes us whole.
        You can slice the word up any way you like,but you have to rely upon Christ’s work for salvation.
        If you have to add your own work to it then why did He have to go to the cross?
        Why did He then say,”it is finished.”
        Was it so that men could add to His work?
        Just wondering if you knew.
        Because if what you say about Acts 2:38 is true,then I am confused.
        Correct me if I am wrong but didnt those events take place after Christ’s ascension?
        I was just asking for you to enlighten me on the subject Charlie.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • http://none Charlie

        cawmun cents ,,,We did answer your question ,,,BUT,,,you could not receive it ,,,BECAUSE,,, you went into a psychological condition known as “cognitive dissonance” AND that is caused by your Judeo christian mind programming (brainwashing) about “works”,,,no where in The Bible does it say We can’t do physical or mental works for our benefit so long as We are not harming someone ,,,love is the key,,,remember the bible says “faith without works is dead”, James 2:17… To do any command of King Jesus and His Men means you are going to do some physical or mental work … Faith is action upon belief ,,,belief is mental work on some subject matter ,then, faith is physical work that brings the mental and physical together to activate God’s / King Jesus Scientific Laws of actions in the physical world …
        Mind programming IS boxed in thinking ,,,King Jesus said ,”do not be deceived “…
        Deceiving or being deceiving is a “Sin” because any Command of King Jesus is Law…So,,
        THINK, THINK, THINK,, inside and outside the box,, saturate you mind with Bible Truth and you cannot be deceived ,,,ask more questions if this is not clear… Acts 2:38 IS A WORK that must be done to get The Gift of The Holy Spirit and to become a “True” Christian …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

  • ONTIME

    Many years ago I read a book written by a retired general and he predicted the demise of America as a self reliant society, whenever I look around today I can see where he had rightly predicted. I cannot remember the author of this book but he predicted, poor leadership, small cars, stiffling of incentive and drift toward lethargy due to technological reliance and less incentive….

    I know that America is always in revolution on a daily basis but when we really see it appear is election time and now we are in a cultural revolution and we are sharply divided, the government is a pandering giant and trying to grow and maintain it’s lumbering grasp on all economic and fiscal control, the more conservative side is fighting to ease and remove this grip to reduce this government to a user friendly representative republic as it was designed to be. This is a serious battle and one that will determine your representation, freedoms and quality of life as well as your security. It will be communism vs a representative government condoned by those being governed and a rule of law. Vote Wisely

    I PLAN ON VOTING FOR THE AMERICAN…..Real credentials, integrity and ethic.

  • JOSEPH FOSTER

    Donnie, I agree with your comments 100% our trade policy favors cheap Labor in China and India and other countries, it does not favor the hiring of American workers. We have moved the factories of the world from the west to countries around the world.
    America has lead the concept of free trade and Globalization today there are 23 million Americans UN employed.
    Employment of cheap labor abroad increase the profits of the CEO and the wall street gangs, no thought given to the Destruction of America these fat cats are traitors to their own country. Our politicians serve their needs.
    I became angry and wrote a book that tells it all. JFK said; ‘The rich can never be secure when they ignore the poor.’
    Joseph Foster, Author ‘’Seeing Red’’ ‘How America is losing the future’ Available at: http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Red-Joseph-Foster/dp/1613468121/””

    • Proud to be a Believer

      You can thank Labor Unions, the EPA and government restrictions on loosing jobs elsewhere period paragraph.

  • Beenthere

    After reading the responses I found it most troubling that so many have total missed the point of the article. You still won’t to blame everyone else for your troubles, CEO’s, NAFTA and anything else you can find. My friends you are the problem, you are the one’s in Washington, on Wall Street, on Main Street, in the Corn Field and yet your to blind to see. God be with us all we are not able to help our selves for our own arragonce.

    • http://none Charlie

      Beenthere ,,,did you expect a brainwashed heathen to blame him/her self as at least half of the problem ??? That’s takes some one that is at least searching for “Truth”"…

      • oh oh

        A good place to start might be John 8:43-44. If we could take our Judeo-Christian blinders off for a moment and take our Savior’s words for what they actually mean, maybe we could start recognizing the Adversary and his children who have been loosed upon us as a curse for our own iniquity.

    • Sol of Texas

      Been — for the most part I agree, One needs to look in the mirror and ask oneself “In what ways have I contributed to this?” Honest people will awake in shock and self-evaluate. Delusional people will continue to blame everyone but themselves.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    I just finished reading an article on Rense.com – America Is A Religion. The article insisted several Presidents and more than a few of the founding fathers thought of America as a religion.

    I read another article about the American tax system and loopholes in the system. About how the American political process is now corrupted beyond rehabilitation. On and on it goes.

    Charley Reese wrote an excellent piece about the English language used – or not being used – in America today…and how language defines thought. A person neglecting language cannot – for the lack of language skills – think clearly or even properly. There is so much verbiage bandied about today, from so many well-meaning and skilled professional writers, so much that it is nearly impossible, if one loses sight of the mark, to not be lost in confusion. Too many words, like a great natural disaster, overwhelms us all. Maybe, this is the idea?

    One thing evidenced clearly in all religions is GREED. The love of money, the desire for power, more and more power, climbing up the ladder with the rungs being – here in America – our fellow American.

    What we have today is greed that surpasses all understanding, and, that’s the idea. Greed is actually defined as “terrorism” or anti-this or that, or patriotism or a lack of it. As I said, on and on it goes. One word is all that is necessary to describe the sorry state of affairs in America (the world) today, that word is GREED.

    What have we truly learned since 911? If nothing else, we have learned the greed of those in high places is overwhelming the people there. Presidents and Congresses, the American legal system, the media’s talking heads, the preachers and the school teachers…just about every person in America is consumed with greed; consumed to the point of being totally corrupted.

    So much are Americans consumed with greed that they have overlooked – or not looked at all – at the words used by their politicians, so America is involved in wars and rumors of war. Lying about WMDs, lying about terrorism, lying about the destruction of America, lying about what really did happen 911. The destruction of America is ongoing, gaining speed. Like a runaway train – but not by any foreign entity – is the destruction of America occurring. That is, if one discounts the International Bankers – which of course would be a mistake – America is being destroyed from the top down.

    From illogical and illegal immigration policies to extremely excessive interest charges, late charges, charges/taxes, on credit and everything else Americans have been led to think is necessary if one is to succeed in life. From Enron to political contributions, to the terror that is vote-fraud. From the overvaluing of the Stock Market to the present day buying up of America by the big International moneymen, using the Stock Market as a means so they can buy up the prosperity of America, over the centuries, and at pennies on the dollar. It happened before and it is happening today.

    Tomorrow, America will have nothing left to call its own, after that we will know poverty and like we have never known it before. The beast is not coming, the beast is here, has been here, from the beginning.

    http://rense.com/1.mpicons/deesA1.htm

  • oh oh

    The true Christian faith is not greedy. What you have described is Mystery Babylon,and “Greed” is its middle name.

  • Dave

    After working for american companies for 25 years and getting screwed, my aspiration is to work for a foreign company. Not a company with american subsidiaries but a foreign company that kicks the hell out of american companies. I hear that foreign companies treat their employees much better than american companies.

    • Pathfinder

      Dave you may want to further investigate working for foreign companies in foreign lands.
      Given where the US is apparently headed, folks are indeed seeking alternatives.
      As an example in the 1930′s, when times were bad here, many US citizens emigrated to the Soviet Union. Henry Ford even sold a complete auto assembly line to the soviets that was staffed with former American workers. This is only to illustrate that switching countries for work is not a new or unusual idea. I have a friend relocating to Costa Rica as an English tour guide.
      As for foreign companies treating workers better: some of these foreign companies/countries (i.e. Germany and Italy) actually close down for 4 weeks vacation plus other great bennies. However, when all aspects are evaluated, in some cases it may not be exactly what it is said to be. So, check it out thoroughly before you commit. A lot has to do with what makes you happy. Good luck in your quest.

  • http://facebooki anonymous Barb

    America could easly crumble if she don’t come back to her first love Jesus Christ. We have dumped him for some of these Aclu liberal views. We can’t afford to stand for things that God plainly tells us that it is a sin. We can’t put him on the back burner and bring him out just when we need him. He doesn’t work like he is not a weak God, he is a Mighty God. If America don’t want him he will move on, but America will lose in the end. It has been written many many years ago. He want stay where he isn’t wanted. Our love for God is gone, some think they can make it on their own. Just look around and see us crumbling. Wake up and renew your life for GOD and him alone.

    • http://none Charlie

      Barb,,,Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing and do Acts 2:38 ,,,then America will
      NOT crumble on you ,because then you are one of The King’s People…

      • snoops57

        Charlie I think needfulthings is a lost cause. For those who deny God their is no hope. Here’s a a couple of scriptures that talk about judgement Heb 10:31, Romans chapters 1 and 2, Rom 14:10, 2nd Cor 5:10, Heb 9:27, 2nd Peter 2:9 just to name a few. I also think he needs a history lesson on the History of the US. I wonder what book the founder fathers used when the drew up the Declaration of Independence and what was the Constitution based on.

        • needfulthings

          Still boyz n girlz There ain’t NO gawd in my constitution, Yes the bill of rights has thee word “LORD” in it, don’t forget thats what people called the property owners of whom they slaved for …. me lord!

      • http://none Charlie

        snoops57,,,you are most likely right ,,,We have found most American are ignorant and
        “Brainwashed” ,regarding the who, what, and why of The Bible and King Jesus Christ..
        That’s why We concentrate on the foundation of Christianity ,which is “Salvation”, without salvation you have no foundation and will end up at Matthew 7:22…
        Acts 2:38 is the only single verse in The New Testament that gives Salvation and The Gift of The Holy Spirit ALL in one verse , why make things complex ? keep it simple for the simple … Then ,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

        • snoops57

          Hi Charlie, Christ is the foundation. Remember what he told Peter in Matt 16:16-18 after the transfiguration and asked who he thaught Christ was? Salvation is the result of coming to Christ in faith by believing the Word of God (Rom 1:16-17 and Rom 10:17) by repenting of ones sins, confessing Christ is the Son of God, being baptized for the remission of sins. Read Acts chapter 2 and chapter 8:26-40 about the Ethopian Eunach. Jesus said in John 14:6 I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Yes Jesus is our only answer and he’s very clear about that.

      • http://none Charlie

        needfulthings ,,,where can We get a copy of your Constitution ? Who or what is your God / god?… Your comment reads as you may not know the right people,, do you
        know Jack Dung Louie ?

        • needfulthings

          Well charlie you can go to any book store and for about 3 to 10 bucks a copy of the constitution can be yours! Now thee interpretation there of .. your problem starts. Don’t over think it cause whatever you think it sayz don’t matter unless your on the no so Supreme Court.

      • http://none Charlie

        needful,,,The first Constitution for early America was / is The Holy Bible,,,check it out in the early state history books, that was back when William Bradford was leading the states about 1620 to 1650… The Constitution you write of did not come about until about 150 years later under George Washington and his Masonic group, that Constitution was a “Commercial” law document , notice at Article 6 it says the constitution shall be the supreme Law of Land; …What does Land mean??? well check it out ! ALL money ,real money that is, COMES FROM THE DIRT,,.SO,,, Article 6 proves the constitution is a “Commercial” law document …IT DID NOT REPLACE THE BIBLE!!! it only controlled commerce between the states and Nations …
        We still think you better call Jack Dung Louie he knows some of the above…

        • needfulthings

          In 1600′s the land was under control of the church and William Bradford was that control, we were still killing people for being a “WITCH” , We still had religious pervets controling people and making law, I believe Bradford and others we called “MY LORD” We broke from that in the late 1700′s and with all that in mind, gawd was left out of constitution for good reason.

          Religion > We are basically killing each other to see who has got the better imaginary friend

          I leave you with a quote from Jams Madison > ” In no instance have … the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people”

      • http://none Charlie

        needful,,, forgot to mention that even phoney Federal Reserve Notes are made from material grown in the DIRT ,,,BUT,,, who created the dirt ,land??? the Bible says dust
        you are and to dust you shall return ,,,did you dust off those stolen bikes ??? needful ,
        you got some needs alright ,,, are you ready to be “planted” in the dirt???
        I’ll look up Jack Dung Louie number…

        • needfulthings

          There once was a time when all people believed in god and the church ruled.
          This time was called the Dark Ages. I think the darkness is returning for some?

          • Deborah

            I think you had better look at the cover of the latest edition of NEWSWEEK magazine.
            Karma is so sweet.

      • http://none Charlie

        needful,,, OK,,, We see your point now ,,,Satan is your small “g” god ,,,you have been duped ,deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be,,,so,,,forget about calling anybody, even The Almighty God will not hear you because you have chosen the small g
        god and rejected The Big G God…you are gone ,,,bye…

        • needfulthings

          Thanks for that information, “your imaginary friend doesn’t know me” great!
          I leave you with this > “A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief, It is a SUPERSTITION “

  • Deborah

    Would all of you bloggers please read a book entitled The Post-American World (Release 2.0) by Fareed Zakaria?????? I just finished this book and it is fantastic. It does leave me feeling hopeful for America, but only if we learn to work with other countries like China and India who are on the rise.

    We cannot continue to spend ourselves into oblivion and keep printing money to cover our debts as Obama is doing. China and India are on to this scheme. This practice is devaluing our currency. Soon, the dollar will no longer be accepted as the global standard currency. The dollar will be obsolete.

    We are in for a huge financial meltdown, thanks to Obamanomics. The bubble may have burst in 2008 but this is just the tip of the iceberg. Better to have Romney/Ryan in charge. They might be able to save America before it is too late. America is a country that believes in business growth and prosperity. So do the majority of the rest of the world’s countries like, China, India, Brazil, Russia, South Africa, Japan and Germany. Obama fundamentally believes in stagnation and dependence on big government. Obama must go!

    • Proud to be a Believer

      You are correct Deborah. Unfortunately will devaluation (You lefties is was on Obama’s watch, not Bushes) of the US dollar, Russia and China are already between the two countries not using the US dollar as the base currency and using their own for more than one reason. They both have too much USA currency plus the powers to be here in the states can tract ever USD in out spent whatever but not allowed to trace other currencies. We had soooo much good servalence systems and intel systems in place that after the iron curtain came down was not so necessary anymore, so what happened, they have turned it inward against its own citizens.

  • Deborah

    This is an excellent quote from an excellent article I read by Charles Koch.

    “Some people worry about the disparity of wealth in a system of economic freedom. What they don’t realize is that the same disparity exists in the least free countries.”

    “In a system without economic freedom, the wealthiest are the tyrants who make people’s lives miserable.”

    “As a result, the income of the poorest in the least-free countries is one-tenth of what it is in the freest.”

    It’s a shame the left-wing, liberal college professors don’t teach this to our children. Instead they indoctrinate our children with their socialist agenda. Our public universities have become the church of the poison mind. We need to insist on fair and balanced teaching from our professors. Hold the teacher’s unions accountable.

    • Proud to be a Believer

      The teachers who teach have to have a University degree so guess what they are teaching??????

      • Robert Smith

        “The teachers who teach have to have a University degree so guess what they are teaching??????”

        My guess is to Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” or they will be fired.

        BTW, I find that plan to be very creepy and it itsn’t teaching our kids how to do anything but pass the test. A very sad state of affairs.

        Rob

      • http://none Charlie

        Heathenism , ha ha ha ha ha ,,been there ,seen that ,,, The Master Teacher is The Holy Spirit…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

    • Pathfinder

      The scholastic liberal agenda starts very gently in KINDERGARTEN and culminates at Universities. That my friends has been the rule since at least the 1950′s.

  • chuckb

    robert smith, the teachers unions have a great deal of blame for the failure of our teachers, tenure is one of the obstacles. certification level is the next.

  • Dee

    Bryan,
    You mentioned that your run-in with the TSA was with infant formula you were carrying. I found that ironic since you were speaking of stupid people. Cow’s milk (modified for infant formula) is made for the brawn of calves, not the brains of human infants. Artificial feeding is where lack of intelligence begins. This is part of the plan for separating children from their mothers, so they are easy prey for the “controllers”. BTW, the US Government is the largest purchaser of infant formula in the world through the WIC program, thus making Americans dumber, while enlarging the coffers of the multi-national pharmeceutical companies. Sad, indeed, that so many people are fooled by this scam. HUMAN MILK for HUMAN BABIES!

  • needfulthings

    3 Reasons Why America Will Crumble?
    1/ Republicans, 2/ Conservatism 3/ Tea Party Fascist , end of story !

    • Pathfinder

      Imagine that just three reasons for America decline. How simplistic and biased!
      Cant wait until we bask in the democrat socialist utopia. (as in OBAMACARE)

      • needfulthings

        I can hardly wait myself, it will be good! As far as the socialist thing goes we’ve been there since the 1930′s (where have you been)? At no point in history has “UNFETTERED CAPITALISM or A TRUE FREE MARKET” system done anything but FAIL.

    • chuckb

      there’s only oo reason america will fail, it’s called barry soetoro,

      • needfulthings

        You really don’t understand the ” berry soetoro ” thing do ya? Leaving that aside for now, please tell us all which presidents (starting with ronnie startwars ray-gun) put us 12 trillion in debt before berry got here? Plus if I can get you to think for one moment, Who today has’ta write the INTERST CHECKS” to cover that + pull us out of a depression and try to run a country?… THINK!

  • Chris

    Maybe if they did not take so many dollars from the taxpayer to “WASTE”, the taxpayer would purchase more American-made products, Plus, since half of the American population does not work, they must buy cheap. Seems like it’s only a matter of time before all US companies go overseas for cheap labor……….wonder what will happen “THEN”. You had all better start coming down hard on your politicians to get rid of NAFTA, or at least make changes.

  • ojlehm

    If you read about the decline of the great powers in history, you will find the leadership had turned rotten and corrupt, oppressing the people, bribery, sexual debauchery and the final nail in the coffin was the same evil and wickedness that was Sodom and Gomorrah, everything eventually goes down when the God of heaven and earth is mocked, ignored, or totally rejected.

  • Public Citizen

    The process moves slowly until it hits a tipping point.
    Then, just like an avalanche moving down a mountainside, it picks up energy very quickly.
    This is exhibited as as an increase in mass as well as an increase in velocity.
    Soon it is carrying everything away before it and only subsides when it hits bottom and runs out of energy.
    The spoiled brats you observed in this essay will be among the first to be carried away and buried the deepest as they will have no concept of the law of action and re-action [sometimes called the law of consequences] or any worthwhile survival skills. They will become just part of the debris of dead and ruined lives that will be part of the collapse.

  • Bimbam

    Liberalism is what is destroying this country. Liberalism is human secularism. That is denial of anything Christian or godly or foolishness. As you know God calls people trying to be become wise become foolish.

    The Bible says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

    If you look around you will see that America is becoming a nation of fools or foolishness.

    Putting a man who they knew nothing about as their leader for fear of being labeled a racist by the racist themselves.
    Letting people think who practice feces sex with one another as normal.
    Believe all cultures are the same.
    There is no such thing as morals, only moral relativism.
    Good is bad and bad is good.

    • Robert Smith

      Hi Bimban…

      “Liberalism is human secularism.”

      I can see another human being. I haven’t seen your god and the only bush that’s talked at me was a serious disappointment.

      “That is denial of anything Christian or godly or foolishness.”

      NO, it’s simply asking for proof and common sense,not blind “faith.”

      ” As you know God calls people trying to be become wise become foolish.”

      What does he call them?

      Rob

      • Bimbam

        Your human secularism is really showing in your comment. You obviously like to be foolish.

        Looking at a human is looking at “God”. We are created in his “image”.

        You certainly don’t have any trouble with your faith. You seem to have no problem believing in human secularism. A tad further and you can believe in God. Lazy or what?

        God calls His people wise. What else would they be?

  • Chris

    Learn about history………..why? Because history repeats itself, but no one ever learns. Where are the “good” people with hearts, brains, common sense, and morals who are in charge of running this country? Are there any left?

  • http://roypatterson.wordpress.com Roy Patterson

    We are Crumbling because we now expect the government to do things for us, that in the past, we did for ourselves. Now we end up with a $15+ Trillion national debt than can never be repaid. We in the future for the USA? Run-A-Way Inflation and Civil Unrest with Marshall Law and FEMA Work Camps for those who resist.

  • Robert Smith

    From Roy: “Marshall Law and FEMA Work Camps for those who resist.”

    Totally debunked AND it shows Korean camps, NOT something in Wyoming!

    Check out fromPopular Mechanics: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850

    Rob

  • snoops57

    This country has been in decline for about a hundered years. Our moral fabric has been under constant attack by liberals for years. The Supreme Court, state courts and local courts have been ruling against citizens for years. The education system is a total mess. Liberal colleges. All the history books, science books, economic books and any other book that is used in educating our kids today have been re-written by the extreme liberal (NEA). With all the progranda, misinformation and lies in the media no body knows what’s true and whats false anymore. Our political system (still the best when you look at the mess in Europe and communist countries) is full of greedy, power hungry, deceitful, career politicians. We have a government handout dependent society that thinks its better to spunge of the hard working tax payer who struggles just to keep their heads above water. Move to Europe and let them support you! For a nation that was built on Christian principles we as a nation have turned our backs on God. We are reaping what we asked for. A nation with no moral fiber!!!! We have a government that is to big and sufficating its citizens with taxes, regulations (Bureaucrats). Maybe if we as a nation educated ourselves and admit the error of our ways we may be to stop this downward spirial to utter destruction.

    • Deborah

      I have just returned from seeing the movie, 2016: Obama’s America. The theater was packed! It was fantastic! Everyone applauded and cheered at the end. They were all buzzing about spreading the word to their friends and family to see this movie. I highly recommend it.

      It has exposed Obama for what he is doing and what he plans to do, once he is re-elected. All of us who love America and want to save this great nation must vote Obama out.

      Please go see this movie. It will energize and galvanize those of us who love God & Country.

      • snoops57

        Hi Deborah. It was just a day or two ago I read the interview that the flimmaker had with Obama’s brother. Sad. I think this country needs to pull it’s head out of the sand and see the writting on the wall. I think it’s pretty obvious but it seems as tho people don’t care.

        • Deborah

          Hi snoops57,

          I know it is sad, but if you could have seen the energy the movie audience generated as they were filing out of the theater, you would have been hopeful that people are finally starting to see the writing on the wall. The movie is a major wake up call and it clearly is pushing the right buttons to motivate people to make a change before it’s too late.

          That said, we must all do our part to give this movie a huge turn out, as a show of respect to Denash Desouza and the brave souls who made this outstanding movie. Then we must
          turn out in overwhelming droves to vote for Romney/Ryan on election day.

          Keep the faith and go see the movie. As scary as it is, it will energize and motivate you to get the word out. Be sure to put a Romney/Ryan bumper sticker on your car too. I have one on my car already. Lets overwhelm the democrats this year and drown them out.
          Obama MUST NOT win a second term or America is literally doomed.

          • snoops57

            Hi there Deborah. I knew he was bad news before he got elected. I didn’t vote the first time for him. This time it’s a no brainer. Yes I agree the word needs to get out.

    • needfulthings

      snoops57 .. yer full of dodo, you have No idea what you repeated from Fixed Noise TV.
      one ….Our moral fabric is just about the same as it was when we invaded this land. We took over and killed everyone that got in our way (we invaded), Just like were doing today in other foreign countries!

      two …….The Supreme Court, is 5 to 4 is very right wing !

      Three …. The education system was just fine and got us to this point untill the right wing religious perverts started charter and private schools ( they don’t even teach evolution) and it can be witness (evolution) all over this plant!

      Four…. Our political system has always been full of greedy, power hungry, deceitful, career politicians ( at least fro 1800′s foeward) Europe is not communist.

      Five …. Thee government handout dependent society is minor compaired to what we give to companies, taxes breakes for the rich. Our taxes our lower than they were in 1960′s (tell me what you can buy today with 60′s money)? The top 50 corperations paid less than 9% taxes, the top 20 paid less than ZERO !

      Six …This government was NOT founded on Christian principles, We ran from the religious perverts that were burning people at the stake with gawd’s permission or so the church said.
      There is NO gawd in my countries constitution, sorry about yours !
      Yer wacked

      • Deborah

        To needfulthings -

        As I told GALT in my reply to him/her/it, you may not believe in God and you even mock him (gawd) but do you really want to go to your grave with that burden of uncertainty? Don’t expect his forgiveness as you whine like a sniveling coward when you see that God does exist and you are now held accountable for your actions.

        Educate yourself and go see the movie, 2016: Obama’s America. Let’s see what you have to say about the truths that are clearly documented in this movie.

  • Deborah

    God bless you snoops. God Bless America.

    • snoops57

      Yea, fast track to hell in a handbag if we don’t dont turn it around. Good night and God Bless.

  • B. Eder

    HISTORIAN SAYS:
    iIn reading some of the comments I noted that several of you were on the right track but you did not go far enough to complete the reasons why the United states will crumble. But none of you really looked at history to detail the real reason.

    The real reason is what is known as THE CYCLE OF CIVILIZATION.

    The universe consists of cycles. Many of these cycles vary very little, such as the path of our planet around the sun and the cycle of the moon around earth. Others vary as conditions dictate. For instance, the tides and ocean currents. We have come to learn, by observation, how these cycles act and we can predict them with some degree of accuracy.

    This observation is the basis of the CYCLE OF CIVILIZATION. By studying the history of civilizations we have developed a pattern that seems to hold true for past civilizations such as the Pharohs of Egypt, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Chinese Emperors, the Ottomans,the Mayans; the Aztecs; the Portugese, the Spanish, the Dutch;, the French, the English, the Fascists, the Nazis, the Communists and, now, the United States. soon it will be the Chinese Communists’ turn to go from bondage to great spiritual faith but that’s another story. While the length of the pattern (in years) may vary the resulting cycle holds true. This is because we are dealing with human nature.

    I am going to set out the CYCLE OF CIVILIZATION and ask that you determine for yourself what phase we are in.

    The CYCLE OF CIVILIZATION is: from Bondage to Spiritual Faith; to Great Courage; to Liberty; to Abundance; to Complacency; to Apathy; to Dependence; to Entitlement; to Corruption; and back to Bondage.

    This is a universal observation and several observers have written it down and commented on it. They may have called it by some other title and used different words to describe the phases/patterns but the results are always the same. I have based my cycle on the writings of an 18th century writer, Alexander Tyler, and have expanded on it as I precieve it to be today.

    I believe we are in the Corruption phase and will fall into Bondage in about 5 years based on the fiscal mess facing us at this time. You may disagree, that is your right but historry is on my side,

    .

    • Proud to be a Believer

      Thanks for verbalizing what everyone should know but don’t because each wants to add something that does not exist for example because the revelation of what Paul says in 1 Corintians 15, 1 through 4, this is all one has to believe by faith and you are saved. Everyone wants to throw in works, you have to do this you have to do that and that is not what has to happen. But that is too easy for them to understand however, you are so correct of where we are today it is scary but not for true believers of the word because going home is just around the corner!!

      • http://none Charlie

        Proud,,,your pride has blinded you ,,,read what Paul did at Acts 9:18 ,,,converted by King Jesus , 3 day later baptized per Acts 2:38,,,it don’t get any better than that,,,right on per The Book… Acts 2:38 CANNOT be ignored and become a True Christian , BECAUSE , Peter was given the Keys to The Kingdom by King Jesus at Matthew 16:19 AND Peter tells you what baptism is at 1 Peter 3:21 ,,,IT IS SALVATION,,, so,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

        • Proud to be a Believer

          You are so misled Charlie, do yourself a favor so that you will know what you are talking about and go to http://www.lesfeldick.org and start downloading the various tapes. Get out your bible and a good place to start instead of Genesis, is the book of Acts. This man teaches verse by verse by verse. I have studied with him for over 7 years and have been thru the Bible verse by verse by verse, three times. You will then understand and know what you are talking about instead of spouting off something you have no idea about. Since you are evidently not a Jew, the writings of Paul which is Romans thru Phileamens are for you. The other books are basically with a few exceptions for Jew only but offer also insight to our total knowledge of Jesus our Lord and Savior.

      • http://none Charlie

        Proud, already checked out Les , just another brainwashed Judeo christian … I was brainwashed by the Baptist Church for about 30 years , they even paid for Me to go to a foreign mission job , after that job , God Hit Me with an event that shook My foundation,
        so I debated with God for 5 years on who and what was wrong in My Life… You can’t buy the Education I got from God during that 5 years , that’s when I realized I was and had been “brainwashed” , so the journey out of brainwashing on the Truth information HiWay was exciting and I almost http://personalliberty.com/2012/08/17/3-reasons-why-america-will-crumble/?became a road kill on the Truth Information HiWay …
        That’s where I learned that America will NEVER crumble because The King of America is, Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38…

      • http://none Charlie

        See that last comment error , that’s why it’s easy to have a problem on the info hiway because Micro soft and google are playing road rage with electronic gadgets…

    • 45caliber

      B.Eder:

      I think we are already into the Bondage section since the taxpayers are now liable for trillions in national debt that has been set up by politicians solely to get us into that state. WE are the ones who are responsible for payment even though we are NOT the ones who arranged for and spent the money from the loans. That is one big falicy of our type of government. At some point in the near future, I expect our “masters” will give the US away to foreign powers due to the loans and we, the people, will be a slave race working as we are told to pay it back while they take payoffs for arranging it and move to places like France and Rio to retire.

  • http://None Ron Bessette

    For a New and Better America, I think all the Officers of The Elks, Moose, Shrine, VFW, American Legion should band together and and encercile the White house and Congress and the legislature and run for all those offices.

    America will become a better place with these patriotic and common sense citizen officers

    • http://none Charlie

      Ron , the “Popularity Politics Clubs” around here are NOT the kind you write of…
      Where are these Guys with common sense ? have not found many in this county or state , even the Churches around here are goofy Judeo christian that can’t even agree on
      who King Jesus is, been kicked out of 3 so called Churches and the 4th wants Me to leave but I told them IF they wanted Me out , that I would leave if they made a public notice of the “kick out”,,.,I’m still there and all I’m doing is just pointing at Scripture they
      don’t know or understand when Scripture is harmonized and words are defined by The Bible and that’s in the Bible study class only,,,how about that ? getting kicked out of a
      Bible Study group for pointing at The Bible… Is that common sense or what???

  • http://yahoo Randy C

    There is really only 1 reason America will crumble: moral decay
    Interestingly enough, this is what God says in the bible

  • MIKI

    fo needfulthings; no wonder our country is in decline -your philosophy is pitifull, but dangerous /i hope nobodynew embraces your beliefs – perhaps you were on drugs when you wrote this tripe. Surely those who believe your philosophy will change their thinking processes before our nation sinks completelyinto oblivion.

    • needfulthings

      Not one word of philosophy in there, No beliefs in there , No drugs either. Just the facts on alittle history.

      • http://none Charlie

        needful things,,, you are missing a needful lifesaver ,,, it’s ,,,Acts 2:38 for Salvation ,,,and ,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

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  • needfulthings

    GALT sayz:
    August 18, 2012 at 4:22 am
    That’s very true Jim, history demonstrates as does capitalism, that stealing is the primary means by which one raises up ONESELF, rule number one as it were………and while true,

    Hey Galt I got that point down good, let me expalin >

    ” When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord does not work that way, so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me.”

    Now that be Capitalism at it finest !!!!!!!

    • http://none Charlie

      needfulthings ,,,after that joke , I still think you better call Jack Dung Louie and introduce yourself as the heathen functional psychotic bike mechanic …

  • 45caliber

    I can see this happening more than I can an armed revolt. I expect some group to try an armed revolt – and I expect to see a small nuke used to stop it. The area outside the blast zone will be without any power – and won’t get big supplies of water, food, or power for quite some time. The starving people (and those innocents killed in the blast) will be used as examples of the problems a revolt can cause, reinforcing the idea that revolts are always wrong and always fail while harming the innocent people – so if you know someone talking revolt, turn him in.

    • Deborah

      I agree. You had better have a gun to protect yourself. When starving people and looters are roaming the streets they will not hesitate a home invasion.

  • Joe C

    if u think New Orleans was bad, which was only one city , just imagine if half or most of the country loses civil order. Guns, Gold & Guts might get you through one day !

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