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Is Government Readying For A Shooting War Against Gun Owners?

March 18, 2013 by  

Is Government Readying For A Shooting War Against Gun Owners?
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Gun grabbing lawmakers at both the State and Federal level continue to push forward with their anti-American, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-gun agendas, even as more individuals, State legislatures and manufacturers of weapons, weapons accessories and ammunition push back. It almost seems as if the elected class is itching for a fight.

And when one considers that the Department of Homeland Security has contracted for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition — much of it hollow points or for use in sniper rifles — for its 55,000 armed agents, plus 2,717 armored personnel carriers and 7,000 select fire “personal defense weapons,” it seems even more apparent that’s the goal. For perspective, 1.6 billion rounds is enough to fight the Iraq war for 20 years. It’s enough to shoot every American five times. It’s 28,000 tons, or the equivalent of three guided missile destroyers. It’s almost 30,000 target practice rounds per armed agent — but of course, because they are more expensive, hollow points are not used for target practice.

These purchases have long concerned many of those who pay attention. But only the alternative media talked about it — to derision and catcalls — until Feb. 15. That’s when The Denver Post ran an article by The Associated Press about the purchases. That prompted a column by Ralph Benko at Forbes.com in which he said it’s time for a national conversation about the purchases.

More than that, it’s time for a national conversation on the link between the purchases and the ongoing push by the elected class to collapse the economy and pass legislation against the will of the people.

Recall that Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), speaking for the state, informed us that, “One of the definitions of a nation state is that the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence. And the state ought to have a monopoly on legitimate violence.”

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban bill passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday on a partisan 10-8 vote. The bill’s primary sponsor, Senator Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) — who has said she’d like to see all guns removed from the hands of Americans — knows “the road is uphill” for the legislation’s passage. If that’s the case, then why pass it if not just to poke in the eye a significant portion of the American population already upset over the anti-gun rhetoric and attacks on lawful gun owners by the gun grabbers?

But while the ban on so-called “assault weapons”  is more than likely to fail, it’s not unlikely that Republicans who want to go along to get along will glom on to legislation requiring universal background checks, which passed out of the Judiciary Committee on Tuesday. Universal background checks are the camel’s nose under the tent. As former Attorney General Janet Reno said in 1993 during discussions of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban (AWB): “Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.” Remember that the elites are content with incremental steps that I call gradualism.

Remember also that gun control is not a partisan issue, although it appears so now and conventional wisdom says so. Prominent Republicans (including much of the field for the last GOP Presidential nomination), in a bid to appear “reasonable” to the establishment crowd, have supported various measures that restricted gun ownership. The last GOP standard-bearer, Mitt Romney, said he would have signed the 1994 AWB if it came to his desk. If he were President today, a gun bill would be more than likely to pass because he would provide cover for statist Republicans to go along with a gun ban — as George W. Bush provided cover for Republicans to support anti-liberty measures like expanding Medicare and passing No Child Left Behind and other government-growing legislation.

President Richard Nixon, in a taped conversation with aides, said: “I don’t know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house. The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth.” He asked why “can’t we go after handguns, period? I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it.” But “people should not have handguns.”

Even more insidious — and likely more harmful to gun rights — are the States that are passing anti-gun measures against the will of the people. New York rammed through legislation banning weapons and large-capacity magazines, violating its own procedures in the process. Since then, 52 of New York’s 62 counties have introduced legislation calling for the repeal of the New York State Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act. The legislation has passed in 40 of them. Colorado has passed bans on magazine capacity, and a bill that would require background checks is close to passage. Governor John Hickenlooper has said he will sign the bills despite threats by gun supply manufacturers to pull out of the State if he does.

Sheriffs, other law enforcement agents, some groups and many individuals are vowing to resist gun-confiscation efforts. Twenty-eight States have introduced or passed bills to preserve the 2nd Amendment. Fourteen have introduced or passed Firearms Freedom Acts.

Manufacturers of guns, gun accessories and ammunition have put their financial health on the line by refusing to sell to State and local governments that pass restrictions on gun ownership by individuals. That list is at 136 and growing.

And the Outdoor Channel, a popular cable channel for outdoors enthusiasts, hunters, fishermen and shooters, has told Colorado it will pull its production out of Colorado if gun control measures are signed into law.

If gun grabbers thought the Sandy Hook shooting would cause Americans to stand passively by and allow their 2nd Amendment rights to be snatched away, they have learned differently. The question now is: How far is government willing to go now that it’s getting push-back?

President John F. Kennedy once said, “Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life.”

It appears those people are stepping up.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Ron

    They have been looking for a fight from day one. Now they have found it , there are 80,000,000 gun owners in America . Good luck with that you stupid liberals !

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      But are they organized or are they sitting in their basements planning on them coming at “their” pleasure. Sure there’s enough guns, Sure there’s enough people, but they have to organize and they are not.

      • Charlie

        T C A,,,
        AND,,,You are NOT giving enough Scriptures for The DAA’s to get organized under King Jesus Christ!………..Gun Rights,,,Luke 22:36,,,Salvation,,,Acts 2:38,,,daily food and shelter Matthew 6:9—13…. ALL needs Matthew 6:33… These Scriptures Spoken by King Jesus and / or His ranking Men… Does it get any better or more powerful?????????????

        Charlie Freedom

      • Kevin

        Using Guns as a rally cry or common ground to start a resistance movement is truly Ill conceived. It would be exactly what Our corrupt government would need as an excuse for labeling it as a terrorist group and wipe your Ass off the face of the earth.

      • Charlie

        Kevin,,,
        You being a Judeo- Christian , We can understand your fears,,,but,,,as David took out the giant ,,,so,,, will America be taken back under The Command of King Jesus Christ….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • Kevin
      • robbiefine@hotmail.com

        When will they be organized? The swat team is already organized!

  • Stupid People

    You say … If gun grabbers thought the Sandy Hook shooting would cause Americans to stand passively by and allow their 2nd Amendment rights to be snatched away, they have learned differently. The question now is: How far is government willing to go now that it’s getting push-back?

    Whatddya mean, “they have learned differently”. In my opinion they are just as dumb now as they were dumb then. And, they have NOT learned ANYTHING. Stupid people.

    • JeffH

      SP, there is more truth to what you say that even they realize.

  • Jerry Mullen

    I am not normally prone to conspiracy theories, but I noticed a strange trend in an article posted online by Mother Jones Magazine. They claimed to list all mass shootings from 1982 to 2012. It may have some copyright protection, as it locked up my computer when I tried to save it, which was fortunate. I copied down the highlights rather than the lurid details and found that:

    President Numberof mass shootings Average per year comments
    Reagan 4 in eight years 0.5 Reagan supported 2nd amnd
    Bush I 8 in four years 2.0 Bush supported gun control
    Clinton 18 in eight years 2.25 Strong supporter of ”
    Bush II 15 in eight years 1.75 ?

    Now all of these together, 45 events in 28 years comes to 1.6 per year. Since President Obama has taken over, the rate is 3.75 per year! It has more than doubled!

    This doesn’t have to be a government conspiracy. But now that we know that some Muslim groups will fly airpanes into buildings and blow themselves up to achieve a political goal, it makes one wonder if some group, with a “higher goal” wouldn’t target psychotic people to cause such events to acheive that goal. The rate seems to increase whenever we have administrations that are perceived as being in favor of gun control.

    • Texas Ride

      Jerry, do you mean something like the government’s study on “mind control.” The shooter with the orange hair actually worked with the “mind-control freaks.”

      • STEVE E.

        Texas, here is something that will verify what you are stating to those that can comprehend.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGtQOhcltn8

      • independant thinker

        I read somewhere that the uni-bomber was an active participant in CIA mind control experiments. Unfortunately I did not save the article.

      • Mike in MI

        I. T. –
        “Mind control” eh? Kind’a backfired on him didn’t it.

        “Mind control” by outsiders is nothing but devil spirit infestation. Neither does God advise His people to have an “open mind” about things. Instead He advises us to learn His attitudes and outlooks on things and steadfastly hang tight to them like they were a surpassing treasure.
        “Control of one’s own mind” is a virtue every son of God is supposed to nurture and develop as one of the fruits of the spirit of God created in you after one becomes a child of God – a Christian believer,

  • harold

    I did not vote for obama I dont support socialism marxism communism or leningrad Stalingrad or Obama grad this trynnical assault on or liberty will cause the next civil war those who forget history are destined to repeat it you reap what u sow the quote , I fear we have awaked a sleeping giant and filled it with remorse.by admiral yamamoto.still holds true.

  • Tommy cunningham

    To those who propose “sensible” infringement of my right to keep and bare arms, not gonna give up that right for any reason, you’ll need a gun to take that right, I’m born with that right and its protected by the constitution! There is NO compromise!!!

    • Don 2

      BENEFITS OF GUN CONTROL:

      CONCENTRATION CAMPS
      KILLING FIELDS
      GULAGS

      Real Men Own Guns ~ Slaves Don’t

  • nc

    Please, Mr. Livingston, don’t let your vivid imagination push your followers into the streets to face the government in a needless showdown. Individuals and small groups have tried to shoot It out with the government in the past! Those individuals and small groups are dead!

    • FreedomFighter

      “God and Country”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whqQQ1PUrgc

      “The enemies of freedom ram socialism down our throats, time to ram “God and Country” down theirs!”

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

    • StarvinLarry

      NC-
      Ever hear of Al-Queda? Taliban? Viet Cong?The Mujahadeen in the Afghan war with the Russians?
      Small groups CAN,DO,and HAVE defeated large military forces.

      • nc

        StarvinLarry, make sure your small groups have caves to hide in, If you care to live in a cave or underground bunker for the rest of your life because the government MIGHT take all of your guns go for it! Make sure you take your kids with you! They will be DELIGHTED(?) to sacrifice their teens years because their fathers and mothers are paranoid!
        Remember the right wing guide to good parenting! “I MADE YOU AND I CAN KILL YOU AND MAKE ANOTHER ONE JUST LIKE YOU BECAUSE THAT’S HOW GOD TOLD ME TO DO IT! ???

      • STEVE E.

        What nc is saying is that fighting for your freedom will cause much inconvenience which is what cowards realize. Cowards never want to inconvenience themselves. That’s why they are cowards in the first place.

      • cawmun cents

        “I cannot speak for StarvinLarry nc,

        But as for me give me liberty or give them death!”
        I would rather live in a tent with a free group of people than live in a mansion with slaves.
        You can keep your land of the fee,home of the slave,if you like.
        But I dont fancy living that way.
        Normally I dont often wax religious on this thread,but here is where you should learn from what my Christianity tells me.”Death has lost it’s sting”(paraphrasing)
        What Paul is saying is that as Christians we no longer need fear death.
        We have a good thing coming to us.
        Better than this world has to offer.
        I find no place in the Bible that says I cannot defend myself if I am about to be killed.
        It may say to love my enemies,it may say to turn the other cheek,it may say that to live by the sword is to die by the sword.But this is how I understand these things.
        If my own government becomes my enemy,and they are working because I gave them taxes,then I am feeding clothing and sheltering them already.These are the requirements I have been given to be a “Good Samaritan”.
        When they make unjust laws and foment discord,and I do not bum rush them to take back what I feel is mine then I am already doing as commanded in the Word.Especially when they have asked me to carry their burden and I have done so willingly.(Taxes)
        I do not live by using my personal firearms to enrich my life in any way,they are for defense only,therefore I am keeping in accord of His law again.(I do not live by my sword,but rather I possess on that I may defend what is rightfully mine,being my God given rights,my health,and welfare,and my pursuit of happiness.)
        So you see it would seem to you that I am weak because of my beliefs,but meek does not make weak.I am meek,but my strength lies in God,and not with man.
        The very charge that gives my government power over my real enemies is the same one that I use to levy against them,should they choose to make enmity with me,seeing as I have done nothing to personally give them reason to assume that I am their enemy.
        Do you get that?
        Yet if they have their own plans to charm me like a snake into giving them what is rightfully mine,by stealth and subversion, then it would seem to me as if they wanted to take those rights away from me personally.
        Does this fact give me cause to doubt their sincerity when it comes to whether they are attempting to have enmity with me?Of course the answer is that I do not know.
        I do however understand the subtle nuances of mind control techniques.
        Do I see them using these on me personally?
        For this I have no common answer,but I can only relay the signals I am receiving.
        It seems from looking at the thing from straight away,that there are really no shennanigans that I should be patently aware of.
        But when I adopt a more rounded view of the matter my sixth sense,my intuition,my gut feeling is that I have something to become aware of.
        The fact that you do not share my feeling,is not a mystery to me.
        I know that you have a differing view than me.
        Whether you arent seeing from the same angle or you just refuse to believe that things are very scary right now,is of no concern to me.
        I have to go with my innards every time.
        It may bethat they are privy to information which I cannot see or know at this time.
        Perhaps we are in danger of invasion?
        Perhaps unwittingly we have already been invaded and the real war is about to start?
        These questions beg answering before I let assumption take leave of my better senses.
        But it seems as if they are gearing up for something.
        What that is I do not perceive nor care about at this time.
        It is a waiting game right now.
        But soon the wait may be over.
        Semper Paratus nc…….
        -CC.

      • Mike in MI

        c.c. – great writing and responses.
        Your discussion of “meekness” is right on the money. Meekness is not weakness or some sort of simpering, fawning, making yourself to be a doormat for the world.
        In Numbers 12:3 the Word says that Moses was the meekest man on the earth at the time. That dude was no pushover about anything. He fought against Pharaoh, the children of Israel at times, led the people in battle against their enemies, personally fought and killed people who were doing wrong. He was tough and resolute about everything that mattered to God.
        Jesus Christ is supposed to be our prime example. If people would go read the Gospels instead of take the blatterings of fairy pastors and priests as gospel people would see a Jesus who was tough and uncompromising against the High Priests and Pharisees leaders, Sadducees and people who stood against God, the people of God and himself. He made satire of them, called them names showed the people what hypocrites they were (are) and didn’t care that they hated him to death.
        He’s the prime example for us. Believe me, God’s feelings don’t get hurt when we stand up for Him against people who stick their middle fingers in the air at Him and think it’s cool.

      • Vicki

        “it may say that to live by the sword is to die by the sword”

        The proper understanding is live by the sword as in being a soldier or royal guard or somesuch.

        Living by the sword as in defending your life where tool=sword is not the same as being a paid bodyguard, bounty hunter or hit man.

    • Walt

      Wow! Somebody must have skipped their history classes in high school! You said:

      “Please, Mr. Livingston, don’t let your vivid imagination push your followers into the streets to face the government in a needless showdown. Individuals and small groups have tried to shoot It out with the government in the past! Those individuals and small groups are dead!”

      A few folks would disagree with you on that particular statement:

      Fidel Castro against Batista in Cuba.
      Lenin & Trotsky against Czar Nicholas.
      George Washington against King George III and the mighty British Empire.
      The Romanians against President Nicolae Ceausescu.
      The Arabs who revolted against the Ottoman Empire.
      The French citizens who revolted against King Louis XVI.
      The Poles who escorted the Russians out of Poland.
      The Hungarians who escorted the Russians out of Hungary.
      The Afghans who wore out the Russians in Afghanistan.
      The Viet Cong who wore out the American military in a 10 year war.
      The Chinese Communist who forced the Nationalist government to retreat to Taiwan.

      Not to mention the score of other revolts in Africa, Latin America and Asia. Some by good folks and others by some nasty pieces of work.

      I certainly am not advocating on behalf of any particular side on this issue….just pointing out historical facts that disprove your claim.

      • nc

        Walt. based you list of “historical” battles by smaller forces IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES IN OTHER TIMES ,do you really and truly believe that those who are truly prepared in THIS COUNTRY AT THIS TIME SHOULD EVEN CONSDIER FACING down the government in an armed conflict?????? I believe that 90% of the bravado for taking their guns to the streets comes from dudes and dudetts in their mother’s basement who AIN’T GOING ANYWHERE FARTHER THAN THE FIRST FLOOR BATHROOM!

      • Frank Kahn

        NO, nc, we are not all chickens like you. If push comes to shove, we will respond with suitable force.

      • Uknowho

        And you are just rarin’ to go aren’t you Frank? You are absolutely ready for the attack by the gov that is not coming… In fact you watch “A Riflemen’s Journal” just to help you become a better shooter… Its just too bad there will be no new episiodes because the host of the show was shot and killed by a jealous man in Montana.

        So much for the idea of an armed society being a polite one eh?

        Conservatives are the most scared and paranoid people on the planet. The record there proves it to be true… From using the bible to justify slavery and racism, subjugation of women… To not wanting homosexuals to have the same rights as others.

        Not understanding something leads to fear…Conservatives do not understand much unfortunately.

      • Frank Kahn

        At some point, you tipped over the edge of reason here.

        “And you are just rarin’ to go aren’t you Frank? You are absolutely ready for the attack by the gov that is not coming… In fact you watch “A Riflemen’s Journal” just to help you become a better shooter… Its just too bad there will be no new episiodes because the host of the show was shot and killed by a jealous man in Montana.”

        This might come as a shock to you but, I have never heard of “A Rifleman’s Journal”. So, I cannot respond to whatever motivational ideas were put forth therein. I am, also, unsure what you mean by “become a better shooter”. A lifetime of practice, hunting and military service has helped me to make my shooting skills quite good. I will admit that my aim was never quite as accurate as my fathers, but he was just really good. “rarin to go” seems to imply a desire for the conflict to start, I am not in such a state of mind, nor will I be happy if it comes to that. Being ready for the possibility of needing to defend yourself, from whatever direction, is neither paranoid nor nonsensical. I probably won’t be attacked by 10 men in a home invasion, but being able to repel the attack is wise to prepare for.

        “So much for the idea of an armed society being a polite one eh?”

        ridicule ad absurdity. Made that one up, you should appreciate it since you make things up too. The concept of an armed society being a polite one is based on normal human interactions and will never apply to those who have some abnormal mental view that clouds their judgement. If you intend to physically assault me, you will at least hesitate and consider the consequences of your actions if you know I am armed. If you are rational, you will not proceed with your assault, making our interaction more civil and polite.

        “Conservatives are the most scared and paranoid people on the planet. The record there proves it to be true… From using the bible to justify slavery and racism, subjugation of women… To not wanting homosexuals to have the same rights as others.”

        First of all, you are lumping all conservatives into a radical group. Not all conservatives support any of those three ideas. I doubt that conservatism actually supports any. I would suggest that you provide the record, you mention, that proves the truth that all conservatives are paranoid (scared and paranoid is redundant). I have encountered a few people that claim there is racism in the Bible, but I see it more as bigotry. Slavery needs to be defined better for comparison to the Bible. It is said that, what you do for the least of his children you do for him. In this aspect, if you have slaves, that you treat badly, you are going against God. I would ask you to explain which RIGHTS we are preventing homosexuals from having. They have all the same RIGHTS as everyone else does already. Do you really mean PRIVILEGES? If you are talking about marriage, you might want to look into the Biblical meaning of marriage. This is a RIGHT given by God, it does not happen by getting a government license and being pronounced married by some civil servant. Getting to have a license and be recognized, BY MAN, as married is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT. Being allowed all the benefits of marriage is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT. Who is advocating the subjugation of women? Is this a reference to abortion and birth control? We don’t want to control women, we want them to control their base urges and take responsibility for their actions. We also don’t want to be forced to pay for their indiscretions. If a man and woman don’t want a baby, they should use the most effective form of birth control available, abstinence. If that is not something they are willing to do, then they should consider either temporary preventative measures like condoms and BC contraceptives or, if they are really against procreation, sterilization. It is their choice.

        “Not understanding something leads to fear…Conservatives do not understand much unfortunately.”

        Fear of the unknown is a primitive survival instinct. Everyone has this instinct, even you. You have shown evidence of this fear when you claim that gun owners are irresponsible. You don’t know their training, abilities or intentions, so you fear what might happen if they are not controlled. Your statement about conservatives not understanding much is both a logical fallacy, proof by bald assertion, and it is a lie. Just because we disagree with much of your ideas and / or opinions, does not make us ignorant. The fact that you disagree with my ideas, does not mean you are ignorant, it simply means that you have had some personal problems, that are unique to you, which I don’t share. Because of that, I do not understand why you feel the need to arbitrarily restrict the RIGHTS of honest, law abiding citizens.

      • Charlie

        Uknowho,,,
        You must be a VERY fearful person ,,,because you certainly DO NOT understand The Holy Bible… Have you ever fired “Expert” with a M-14…M-16 at 500 or a thousand yards??? as We said before , you may be as useless as teats on a Bore Hog,,,even in a shooting battle………….
        Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

    • Texas Ride

      nc, just because you don’t like the facts, doesn’t make them meaningless. This regime does nothing without a reason and it is obvious that this regime is itching for a conflict. They have been since the beginning. ohomo has been jabbing a stick in the eye of Americans to see how much they are willing to take. I think he has finally found a big enough “stick” that he is going to get a reaction.

      It is time that we have a National discussion about the treason being committed by the international criminals and conspirators in Washington.

      • Kevin

        I agree with your sentiment. Our Nation is far from perfect and quite frankly has never even come close to it. But at least there used to be some Limitation to its Insatiable desire for expansion and Invasive maneuverings Into American Liberties and freedoms. I do not know the answer or else I would not be here looking. But I will say that if someone comes to my town and attempts acts of aggression upon my Rights under the second amendment. they will at the least find one person willing to Give them a permanent limp for their trouble.

  • Michael G Marriam

    I’ve been writing this on every blog: I was in a presentation given by a pro-gun freshman NYS legislator. He said the down state coalition is obsessed with outlawing private ownership of firearms and confiscating all privately owned guns.

    His exact words were “Its worse than you think. If anybody tells you they don’t want to take your guns away they are a liar.”

    I expect its the same in all the other states.

  • Hedgehog

    I am a Canadian. I admire your collective decision to resist Obama Augustus and his sycophants. Words to the wise: emulate the Russians (suspect everybody) until proven otherwise. Don’t form large combat groups, they (Obama et al) have weapons of mass destruction and will use them. An APC full of gov’t agents is “spam in a can”; the same in a pool of burning gasoline is “fried spam in a can”. “Take no prisoners, leave no live enemies to your rear!” Why am I saying this? Because as a Canadian, I know that if Obama wins, we’re next!

    • Right Brain Thinker

      I hope you don’t plan on coming down here anytime soon, hog. I’m sure “we” have you on a watch list and will grab and send your butt to Guantanamo once you step over the border. In fact, you should probably not stray too close to the border either, because there is probably a drone up there looking for you.

      If you keep talking like a terrorist, you can expect to be treated like one. I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating—-mind your own Canadian business and find something other to do than post insanities on PLD.

      • FreedomFighter

        RBT is a commi ignore him Hog.

        If America goes down, so goes the world.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Spoken like a true “dictator-wanna-be”, or are you the “dictator’s-mini-me”? You give all Americans a bad name, RBT!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        FrenchFriedBrain makes the ever ignorant “commie” rejoinder! Such brilliance!

        And “If America goes down, so goes the world”? Not true, “the world” will feel much pain if America goes down, but it will survive. Too bad FFB and friends can’t see that they are bringing the country down.

        I’m really getting confused by this constant use of “Semper Fi” also. What does it mean, FF? Wgy do you post it when you don’t seem to live it? Do you not see that you are NOT living up to the USMC values and “code” with what you post?

        And hello to WTS/JAY. Why does he waste our time with such nothing-of-value-statements? Dictator? I’m being a friend to idiothog and offering him some good and friendly advice. He apparently doesn’t understand that his rash statements about doing harm to Americans are distinctly UN-American and UN-Canadian and generally UN-Common Sense. Neither does JAY, apparently.

      • momo

        “Semper Fi(delis)” Always Faithful, but to what the constitution you took an oath to defend, or the government?

      • Hedgehog

        Well Right Brain Thinker, I guess you have outed yourself as a government agent provocateur! Since you have taken it upon yourself to call me a terrorist, refuse me entry to the US and threaten me with being sent to Guantanamo, you must be a government agent, yes? To add sauce to the mix, you deny me the right of free speech, another government agent type trick. As far as being on a government list, I have no doubt I am. However, that gives your government the right to turn me back at the border, not to seize me and send me to a concentration camp without trial. Wouldn’t that be a juicy international incident? Your boss should kick your butt for that one! In fact, what you posted sounds more like a terrorist posting than what I said. As for minding my own Canadian business, watching your government is one of my hobbies. After all, your government has invaded my country several times. I trust the american PEOPLE, I don’t trust the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!

      • Don 2

        What public figure comes to mind when you read this?

        A Marxist begins with ‘his’ prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order or the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage – the political paradise of communism. ~ Saul Alinsky(Rules For Radicals)

      • JeffH

        Hedgehog, just ignore the progressive troll HalfWitThinker.
        He obviously doesn’t believe in free speech and he’s probably one of those internet snitchs too…dialing DHS 800 report a terrorist.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Go away, JeffyH—-go play with the voodoo girls. You sound just like DaveH with that comment. At least you didn’t bore us with a von mises link—for that I thank you..

        And Hog takes issue with my chastising him for making imprudent remarks. I will be more than glad to volunteer to be “the government agent” that greets you on the day you cross the border to do harm to those good Americans that you want to “fry like Spam” in their APC. Give us a time and a date and a crossing place and I will be there with a selection of my guns (I haven’t yet fired the Remington Model 870 Tactical that I purchased last week, I’ll bring that along). “We” will park the APC there for you and see what happens when you try to torch it. I will be only one of many “government agents” in attendance. In fact, we may be able to sell tickets and help reduce the debt.

        You step over the bounds when you make comments like that, Hog. Remember the old dictum that “the right to free speech does not extend to shouting FIRE in a crowded movie theater”? Suppose the next wacko incident we see down here IS someone incinerating a bunch of policemen in a SWAT vehicle? We sure as heck have a lot of sovereign and militia wackos shooting them. Do you understand how crazy some of us are down here? Reading PLD (where the very craziest do NOT live) should give you a small clue. In my job as a “government agent”, I DO keep tabs on certain of these folk, and they just might say “Yeah—the guy from Canada has the right idea—let’s do it”.

        And seizing you and sending you to a concentration camp without trial wouldn’t be a juicy international incident at all—-you’re a terrorist if you incinerate Americans, remember? Lots of people down here would say “waterboard him good and throw away the key”.

        You say “watching your government is one of my hobbies”, and talk about us invading your country several times?. It wasn’t “your country” when we invaded. I will again suggest that you need a new hobby—-one that keeps you out of our hair. Let me suggest that you spend time studying the corruption in your government, particularly as it relates to Trans Canada, the Alberta Tar Sands, the various port and pipeline proposals, and the influence of the Koch brothers and the other fossil fuel interests—-that will keep you busy for a while. When you tire of that, you might look into the contribution the Canadian fisheries interests have made to the situation wioth fish stocks in the north Atlantic. Look into Polar Bear hunts too—-lots of money to be made killing them for “sport”.

        Don 2 asks, “What public figure comes to mind when you read this?”

        I immediately think of all those conservatives who have used Alinsky’s methods for the last 40 years—-the Armeys and the the “right think” tanks supported by the Koch Brothers. They have done a masterful job of confusing a large portion of the population about who is really trying to subjugate them. Alinsky’s ideas are old and referred to Marxists, but the plutocracy and the corporate oligarchs have turned them to their advantage—-by trying to get the proletariat to turn against the government (their only hope for survival) as we head for the last stage—-corporate feudalism. (And when are the righties going to acknowledge that they owe much to Alinsky? Do they think everyone is so dumb that they won’t figure out that they are talking out of both sides of their mouths?)

      • JeffH

        HalfWitTroll’s bulb is a bit dim.

        Our entire Constitution and Bill of Rights are essential measures of gun control — this time, gun control directed against the government. For example, the First Amendment prohibits the government from using its guns to abridge the freedoms of speech or press. The Second Amendment prohibits the government from using its guns to abridge the freedom of the citizen to keep and bear arms. Indirectly, the Second Amendment also operates to limit the government’s use of its guns to abridge freedom in general. This is because, in our system of checks and balances, an armed citizenry constitutes a check on the possibility of the government becoming tyrannical and attempting to use its power to threaten the citizens’ lives and property. It should be understood as protecting a balance between the power remaining in the hands of the people and the power they have delegated to their government. Indeed, the language of the Second Amendment — “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” — should be understood in this way.
        http://mises.org/daily/6172/Gun-Control-on-the-Governments-Guns

        Don’t forget that ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Lord love a duck! JeffyH gives us a mises.org link! Is he channeling DaveH?

        And it’s a rather poorly reasoned statement at that—waste of time. Of course, Jeffy can’t do as well in his own words, so copying is the only thing left to him (he could remain silent and not look foolish, but that won’t occur to him).

        And ~300 MILLION AMERICANS again? (GAG—GAG—-UPCHUCK)

        STOP CHANTING MINDLESS SLOGANS

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • JeffH

        As HalfWitThinker continues on with his jealousy driven parroting he must be reminded that ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us the NRA, GOA, SAF and Rand Paul in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

        POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkkk!

      • Vicki

        ” the political paradise of communism. ~ Saul Alinsky(Rules For Radicals)”

        What he (Saul) conveniently left out was the little detail in the famous communist soundbyte.

        “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”

        People don’t need cars, cell phones, Ipads, movies.

        Welcome to paradise.

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker doesn’t and says:
        ” (GAG—GAG—-UPCHUCK)

        STOP CHANTING MINDLESS SLOGANS”

        So then why do you?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        JeffyH, Vicki, and the mob are working overtime—-must be all that NRA “spread the lies” grant money—-the paranoid right wing “stimulus plan”.

        “jealousy driven parroting” says Jeffy? and then he goes right to parroting “~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM” LOL And the thought that I would be “jealous” of anyone here is a LMAO—-wake up and grow up, Jeffy.

        Vicki fishes for a cracker with a tired old Alinsky reference, and then asks a dumb question.

        “Right Brain Thinker says: STOP CHANTING MINDLESS SLOGANS”
        So then why do you?”

        Isn’t it obvious, Vicki? I do it to point out to everyone how mindless and downright insulting your chanting has become. Unlike you, I do not mindlessly spray it everywhere on the thread, but only use it in reply to you and your JV partners when you start with ~300 AMERICANS

        (GAG-GAG-UPCHUCK-SPIT-WIPE MOUTH) You’ve done it again, Vicki! I can afford to lose a few pounds but it would be nice if you let me keep my breakfast down—it IS the most important meal of the day, you know.

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker demonstrates the importance of using more than half a brain by saying:
        “JeffyH, Vicki, and the mob are working overtime—-must be all that NRA “spread the lies” grant money—-the paranoid right wing “stimulus plan”.

        Ad hominem attack.

        - RBT: “STOP CHANTING MINDLESS SLOGANS”
        - Vicki: “So then why do you?”

        - RBT: “Isn’t it obvious, Vicki? I do it to point out to everyone how mindless and downright insulting your chanting has become.”

        Chanting? I see no chanting here. Are you sure your reading the right thread?

        - RBT: “Unlike you, I do not mindlessly spray it everywhere on the thread, but only use it in reply to you and your JV partners when you start with ~300 AMERICANS”

        Hardly mindless. I took a self evident truth and apply it anywhere liberal/progressive/anti-defense people spread their propaganda. Though it is a useful response for every excuse the anti-gun people have for taking away the rights of a free people, I use it most often to counter the statistical nonsense offered as one of the excuses.

        - RBT: “(GAG-GAG-UPCHUCK-SPIT-WIPE MOUTH) You’ve done it again, Vicki! I can afford to lose a few pounds but it would be nice if you let me keep my breakfast down—it IS the most important meal of the day, you know.”

        It’s all within your power RBT. Don’t read PLD till after lunch.

        Btw I notice that you still haven’t answered my question. You said:
        “Stop trying to ignore the fact that guns are involved in a lot of harmful situations.”

        I asked how many is a lot. You still have not answered. How did you put it? Ah.
        - RBT: Stop denying!
        - RBT: Stop evading!
        - RBT: Stop deflecting!
        - RBT: Stop obfuscating!

        So when were you going to stop and just answer that very simple question? You do know right? Or were you just making it up?

    • Charlie

      Hedgehog,,,
      Guerrilla warfare is the way to go IF? the shooting continues ,,, BUT,,,go for Peace with Prayer and Paperwork first,,,BUT,,,NEVER give up any “”"weapons”"”or Rights from King Jesus or The Constitution….

      Charlie Freedom

      • Hedgehog

        Charlie, I agree with you 100%. Always try for peace within the bounds of prudence. But don’t sell out to tyrants, ever! However, when all else fails, guerrilla warfare is definitely the answer.

  • FreedomFighter

    “TO CONQUER A NATION FIRST DISARM ITS CITIZENS” —ADOLF HITLER

    You wonder why DHS or Department of Human Sacrifice buys 2 billion bullets, why all the machine guns, why all the light armored tanks, why all the guard dogs, why are they activating FEMA camps, why are they buying up all the civilian ammo supplies, why drones on American soil, why!? There is no outside enemy, no invasion force threatening the United States, no current sign of open rebellion in the streets just Americans going about daily business as usual.

    Only one reason can be deduced from current actions:

    It is preparation for the Collapse of the monetary system and then Socialist/Communist/fascist cabal takeover of the United States by force of arms.

    The cabal is already trying to remove term limits for Obama. The house has not defunded Obama Care, the TSA, DHS, yet have defunded our military, firefighters, police and released thousands of Latino gang members (was a chaos deal struck to help bring about Martial Law with drug lords?)

    What about the drone program for US Soil?

    In an essay published by the United States Army Combined Arms Center, Pryer laments how the use of unmanned drones – which kill 50 innocent civilian for every suspected terrorist – are perpetuating wars and endangering America’s global reputation. He then makes a stark warning that the drone strike program is merely a pre-cursor to the kind of nightmare technocracy depicted in the Terminator movies.

    “It seems heart-breakingly obvious that future generations will someday look back upon the last decade as the start of the rise of the machines,” writes Pryer, adding that the US government is developing, “robots so advanced that they make today’s Predators and Reapers look positively impotent and antique. These killer robots, though, will share one thing in common with their primitive progenitors: with remorseless purpose, they will stalk and kill any human deemed “a legitimate target” by their controllers and programmers.”

    http://www.infowars.com/us-army-colonel-issues-warning-about-remorseless-killer-robots/

    Special Note:

    drone strike program is merely a pre-cursor to the kind of nightmare technocracy depicted in the Terminator movies.

    That’s why they want them – power and control. Much easier to send a robotic war machine to do the dirty work, they have no soul, no remorse, no morals, unlike human beings whom will eventually stop the slaughter.

    Remember the plan is population reduction — Order out of Chaos

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • Dr Richard Wright Hogeland

    Dear Reader – from – the Freedom and Liberty Independent Refector – Keep up the fright – in each jurisdiction – the fight is never ending againt the power of the State – all of the actions of the State against the gun grabbers are unconstitutional — the States approachnis as one writer has called it – the “Fabian” approach named after the Roman General Fabian Camctator or Fabian the Delayer who was successful in defeating Hannibal – by small attackes until Hnnibal’s Army was weaken enough to engage him in a direct frontal attack – - do what can be done – logical – reasonable sounding things – and then all out total victory – - this exactly what happejn in Britain – a little bit at a time –
    We the people have an absolute right to “keep and Bear” Artms – under our Natural Rights the Constitution – the Declaration of Independence – under the later we have a absolutely right to revolt against an opressive government –
    Our first line of defence – ignore whatever laws and regulations are passed in any state – the sdecond line of defense is in the Courts – the Supreme Court – the present Court – demands “tailored” regulations – it must be a very “common sense” restriction – assualt weapeons should be considered constitutional – since the Court has found in the past – and refered to military weapons as a category – when discussing restrictions – you constitutionally can not change a “right” into a license – all but basic restriction on the right to “kerep and Bear” arms should fall if lli9tigated – The Helller and the McDonald Cases – Always keep in mind the Gun Grabbers have even a greater goal in mind – erasing the “M” word itself Manhood!

    R

  • ibcamn

    obama is not a leader in any way shape or form.and as for the lengths the progressive liberals would go to to get their way(fofill their agenda)is that even a question?!look at how many times obama has lied to the American people!just now with his sequester lie!and for the ammo and gun grab,everyone now knows that sandy hook was staged.in fact so much debunked information has come out that the gov’t has now put out info saying this supposed gunman had a huge hit list!huge as in size,literally the size!they said that they had went through everything in his house and only found a computer that he wiped so well that the FBI,CIA coulcnt get a thing,but now they found a new list!!we know that the person who lived their didn’t sit in his basement for years playing games and crap like that,but now that all this new info against this supposed mass murder,they now have a weird sized list!i think the liberal freaks will go to any lengths to get their way!even murder!(oh wait,they have!)

  • Jim Crawford

    This has been obummer’s plan, divide the nation over a very controversial topic thereby creating a combative atmosphere so he can declare martial law and use his Homeland Security Army to take over the country.

    • ibcamn

      obama has his henchmen picking the fight towards the American people,it’s what he wants!

  • http://www.booksbyoliver.com OhioRiver

    What is it? “Is the government here for our convenience……or are we here for the government’s convenience?” We created the government…..it’s not the government who created us.

    The RINO’s are alreayd selling us down the river of tyranny (A TIME TO STAND by Oliver) so it’s time to take a stand. Need to read this provocative book & understand what the near future is going to bring.

    Bob, are we going to be ready for the USG to snatch our life savings as we just saw in Cyprus? They are now calling it a ‘bank tax’ of 10%.

    • Jeanette

      I’m glad to see someone else has heard about the people in Cyprus being robbed by their government. There has been an eerie silence about it almost everywhere – at least in this country.

      • Bill Henry

        I have seen that the government is eyeing the retirement funds of the people of this country. They can find no way to raise taxes so they have to get the funds from somewhere to support their agenda.

  • L. Eleurterio

    I believe a major point was missed here and by other press so far on this topic. You underestimate the largest body of people in the US population, who happen to support banning all guns. This group was the biggest reason Obama was elected. They are the same group who supports Agenda 21 and the UN. They are the majority in the US. They are the biggest contributors to health care costs. They make up 89% of the US teacher’s unions. They’ve been the second largest reason why jobs are scarce in the US. Everyone fears them and are afraid to identify them. Politicians will never go up against them. Thousands of laws have been effected by them. No one is interested in addressing them or taking them on. This group are US women. They’ve displaced men 30 to 1 in US jobs over the last 5 years. They hold 89% of all non-military government jobs. They want guns abolished. The number one reason women give for wanting guns taken away, is because they fear men with guns. Men commit most gun shootings. Many women are physically abused by men every day. Most women believe guns add to the power men have over women. The truth is that women have become the strongest, most powerful, group of people in the US. The women abuse laws violate men’s rights. Most cities and towns violate men’s rights every day when a 911 call is placed from any home, but many times the man is the abuser. The average age of a women giving birth has risen sharply. A very large number of women now wait until age 35-45. The likelihood of psychological impairment in children has reached epidemic proportions because of this, but no one does anything about it. A small number of those psychologically impaired children are the ones killing people with guns. Do the research. Check the facts. You’ll be amazed. NOTE: I am a huge proponent of women and women’s rights and I am not a pro gun person. Just throwing out facts we all need to deal with.

    • http://yahoo Rocco

      Yes L it is all because of women. I can’t believe we let them vote. I want some of what you are smoking. And I love the NOTE. That takes away all the sexist ideology. Why don’t you grow up and do what adult do, take responsibility and stop blaming others for your shortcomings.

  • Alex

    Mister Livingston writes; “…anti-American, anti-2nd Amendment….agendas…”

    Wrong on both counts, Mr Livingston!

    As a clear majority of Americans now favor sensible firearms legislation—in a striking change to the tired and dangerous stranglehold on gun-consciousness manufactured by the NRA for years— these ‘agendas’ cannot be considered anti-American. Not at all.
    This just means that you and the other gun-toters are out of step with current American thinking. In other words, it is you that have now be come ‘anti-American’….sorry!

    And, as the Second Amendment in its conciseness MOST CLEARLY includes the term “well-regulated”, adapting to changing times and advanced weaponry by adopting such sensible regulation as deemed fit by those CURRENTLY able to do so is absolutely in line with the spirit of the Constitution.

    Thank God today’s younger generation and those to come will dispose of this harmful relic from the days of the Slaveowners, Land Grabbers, and Ethnic Cleansers who wrote the damned amendment in the first place. We may not all live to see it happen, but the more Enlightened people to come will flush the Second Amendment down the sewie hole of failed ideas where it belongs.

    Not anti-American. Not anti-Second Amendment. You are well-read and intelligent,
    Mr Livingston, but you are oh-for two this morning…

    • chocopot

      Like most left-wingers who think our Constitutional rights are negotiable or subject to the fad of the day, you have not done your research. In the language of the day when the Constitution was written, the term “well regulated” meant “well trained.” In point of fact, at that time, there were no regulations of any sort restricting what weapons any citizen could own. If you could afford it, you could possess and maintain your own battery of cannon. A significant argument can be made that ALL gun control laws violate the Second Amendment since it does not provide any room for restrictions – and that is how the Framers intended it. The incremental push by the Left for more than a century now has led us to the current situation, with more than 22,000 federal, state, and local gun control laws, the vast majority of which do nothing to make anyone safer, but do infringe on the God-given rights of a great many law-abiding and innocent citizens who just want to be left alone to exercise those God-given rights. People like you need to understand those simple facts. Implementing more laws which will not disarm a single crimnal or evildoer, but which will disarm the honest citizen, will not accomplish anything except take us one step closer to the Left’s ultimate goal of disarming the entire population. And history has taught us where that leads (i.e., Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Mao’s China, Castro’s Cuba, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, the Kim’s North Korea, and so forth; the body count from that during the 20th Century was in excess of 100 million). And plenty of our home-grown gun-grabbers have made statements, during moments of careless honesty, making it very clear that total confiscation, one nasty step at a time, is the ultimate goal. And there is only one possible reason for that (and it is not public safety): creating a dictatorship with complete control over the population. And there are 80-90 million gun owners who will not sit quietly for that.

    • Adolf Schmidt

      I see you and the 89% you talk about being out of touch with reality! We have been fortunate as a Country to not have to fight a war on our own ground from invaders! I admit there are things that need to take place with guns to increase the safety of the public, but the people dictating the changes are clueless when it comes to topic! Biden endorses shooting a shotgun off the porch of your house! Feistein talks about imploding bullets and how it is legal to shoot humans! Common sense should tell us to look to people with knowledge on the matter! If your happy being led around by politicians that have no experience in these matters great! Don’t complain when they make more uneducated decisions that affect you! It is not to much to ask that our officials be knowledgeable about the topic that concerns so many!

    • HARLEY HOPP/GLENNIE 48737

      Alex, i am a CAPITALISTIC PATRIOTIC CONSTITUTIONALIST. THE LIBERALS HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THE CONSTITUTION FOR OVER 200 YRS. they have not been able to destroy it yet. you can keep trying but you will not win. When we can get a 28th ammendment passed that imposes the same sanctions on congress as they place on We The People, then we will have Liberty and Justice for All. Beware of the new world order, the tri-lateral commission and the federal reserve. they want to divide us, tax us into oblivion, destroy the US financially, disarm us , and replace our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC with a democratic dictatorship. I FOR ONE WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.

    • Patriot

      As usual, you have no understanding of the 2nd Amendment.
      Well regulated refers to the FIRST part of the 2nd Amendment, which is in fact, two separate parts. One part refers to the militia, and the second part refers to the right of the People to keep and bear arms.
      This harmful relic was also created by the same ethnic cleansers, racists, and land grabbers that wrote the First Amendment, and the Fourth, and the Third. Does that negate those too? Should we now be arguing to censor free speech, a free press, and the right to due process of law? I mean, since one is obviously antiquated, the others must be as well. And obviously since it was written by heathens and slave owners, the entire Bill of Rights should be suspect.
      There is a process for changing the Constitution. And if the vast majority of Americans believe they need to change it, then passing an amendment won’t be so tough, now will it?

    • Kevin
    • Frank Kahn

      Alex says:
      March 18, 2013 at 7:57 am

      “Mister Livingston writes; “…anti-American, anti-2nd Amendment….agendas…”

      Wrong on both counts, Mr Livingston!”

      We, the People do not care what your opinion of American is.

      “As a clear majority of Americans now favor sensible firearms legislation—in a striking change to the tired and dangerous stranglehold on gun-consciousness manufactured by the NRA for years— these ‘agendas’ cannot be considered anti-American. Not at all.
      This just means that you and the other gun-toters are out of step with current American thinking. In other words, it is you that have now be come ‘anti-American’….sorry!”

      Yes, you are sorry, a very sorry individual with misguided allegiances. You say, without giving any proof or definition of what a clear majority of Americans is, that they favor SENSIBLE (unconstitutional) firearms legislation. You also make a false claim that somehow the NRA is responsible for our defending our rights. American is defined by the Constitution of the United States, not by some whiney paranoid children. Tired, yes, we are very tired of your type of nonsense. Dangerous, yes, your advocating for restrictions to our rights is very dangerous. We will fight to keep America what it has always been, that is being an American. The people who want to ignore America, and its constitution are anti-American.

      “And, as the Second Amendment in its conciseness MOST CLEARLY includes the term “well-regulated”, adapting to changing times and advanced weaponry by adopting such sensible regulation as deemed fit by those CURRENTLY able to do so is absolutely in line with the spirit of the Constitution.”

      Here you simply show a problem with word definition and / or reading comprehension. The term “well-regulated” is an adjective modifying the word militia not the phrase “the right to keep and bear arms”. Since it is not referencing arms, the rest of your comment is null and void.

      “Thank God today’s younger generation and those to come will dispose of this harmful relic from the days of the Slaveowners, Land Grabbers, and Ethnic Cleansers who wrote the damned amendment in the first place. We may not all live to see it happen, but the more Enlightened people to come will flush the Second Amendment down the sewie hole of failed ideas where it belongs.”

      Again with your hatred of the United States of America? You should not involve God in your hatred of our rights, given by him. First of all, the second amendment is only a relic in the sense that it is a part of our past, being such does not, in any way, make it less valid or important to today’s society. It is sad, that the younger generation is incapable of seeing the needs that require our keeping of our second amendment rights. This lack of proper education must be overcome by the thoughtful teaching of honest and reasonable Americans. Slavery has been legal and condoned by most societies since long before we became a nation. To attempt to claim that our founding fathers were less honorable for that is wrong. Land grabbing has been a human trait, probably since the beginning of time, so how does that single them out as unworthy? The second amendment was written by intelligent men, who had our best interest in mind. They gave us that protection so that we would not be slaves.

      “Not anti-American. Not anti-Second Amendment. You are well-read and intelligent,
      Mr Livingston, but you are oh-for two this morning…”

      Not keeping score here, but since he is correct in both statements he is not 0 for 2. You however made several statements that are patently false so what is your score now?

  • David

    I have never really been one of those who sees that everyone is out to get me. I want to believe that there is good in all or most of us. But, the evidence is getting stacked up in favor of this administration (and maybe it has been a plan for a long time), wants to disarm all of the citizens. You really only do that for one reason and that is to setup a dictatorship or Communist state. Where the government is in control and we the people now work for them. There will be resistance and defiance and riots all which play into their hands. This will usher in marshal law, they already have in place laws to snatch people off the streets without due process (these were suppose to be used against terrorist and others that were interested in doing harm to the U.S. now they will use them for their plan. The drone strikes on U.S. soil was a test to see if anyone was paying attention. If it comes to marshal law the normal people in the military and on police forces will have to do their jobs and arrest those that are breaking the law. We have to make allot of noise and be heard, what was that movie line…”I am made as hell and I am not going to take it anymore “. Stop blogging and start calling and emailing your leadership people, not just the D.C. crowd but your own states government people. Here in Texas we have people working to take our guns away very hard too. I haven’t found any ammo in academy in months, none not even 22 cal.. The government has enough ammo to double tap all who disapprove, but the one thing their formula did not account for was there are more of us than there are of them.

    • ibcamn

      davey,actually it’s only half of the people who voted!!
      not all of America,get it right!!that want gun control!!and 3/4 of America don’t mind if there is a new “form” of background checks(law abiding citizens)to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people!!…a little differant than the way you tell it!

      • Mike in MI

        ibbie – “…mentally ill people…”?!!! Well,
        there’s the answer to the entire problem. If they pass that one no liberal/prog-frog will ever again have a right to carry firearms.
        Then people like Gabby Giffords will never have to fear anymore. AND, the world will be safe from the devil spirits – - – except muslims.

  • Andrew G.

    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! Molon labe (mo-lone lah-veh) Two little words. With these two words, two concepts were verbalized that have lived for nearly two and a half Millennia. They signify and characterize both the heart of the Warrior, and the indomitable spirit of mankind. From the ancient Greek, they are the reply of the Spartan General-King Leonidas to Xerxes, the Persian Emperor who came with 600,000 of the fiercest fighting troops in the world to conquer and invade little Greece, then the center and birthplace of civilization as we know it. When Xerxes offered to spare the lives of Leonidas, his 300 personal bodyguards and a handful of Thebans and others who volunteered to defend their country, if they would lay down their arms, Leonidas shouted these two words back. Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh) They mean, “Come and get them!” They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie.” We have adopted this defiant utterance as a battle cry in our war against oppression because it says so clearly and simply towards those who would take our arms. It signifies our determination to not strike the first blow, but also to not stand mute and allow our loved ones, and all that we believe in and stand for, to be trampled by men who would deprive us of our God-given – or natural, if you will –rights to suit their own ends.

    • Mike in MI

      Andrew –
      I’ll stick with, “Nuts!!!”, as being just as expressive at The Bulge.

  • Mitch Freeman

    Never think it can’t happen! We need only to look back to Germany in the 1930′s and especially 1938 when Adolf Hitler passed a gun registration law for “public safety” and proceeded to attack not only the citizen’s of Germany, but the rest of the world as well!!
    Diane Fienstien stated this weekend that she’d gone to the scene’s of shootings and saw gunshot victims thus making her want to remove firearms from all citizens. Did she ever go to the accident scenes where drunk drivers or speeding idiots killed multiple victims with their vehicles? If she had, would she be trying to ban automobiles?? Would she give up her’s?? What about airplanes? They usually kill a hundred or more each time. I can guarantee that in the almost 20 years I served as a volunteer fireman and ambulance EMT. I saw more death and injuries from motorvehicle accidents than gun violence!

  • michael

    All this talk about guns this guns that an the real issue is the gov spending an then they say web that’s cut this an that do to we want afford it BUT DON’T EVER ONCE SAY CUT GOV PAY TO HELP THEY SPEND THEY CAN TAKE A PAY CUT NAMESAKE HIS PEOPLE NEED TO PAY MORE IN TAXES WELL TAKE A SMALLER PAY CHECK

  • BrotherPatriot

    I like your spunk, Mr. Livingston. Revealing the truth takes courage at times…

    God Bless us all.

  • Bryster

    Ask not what your country can do to you, but what you can do if it does.

    The Bryster!

  • Burke

    Nice piece Bob. I am fleeing California with my wife and 4 children. We are heading to Alaska in hopes that it truly is the last frontier. I feel most honorable Americans will do the same and uproot to states that support the freedom and liberty our constitution provides…2 Americas are being born and most likely will wage war with each other. This may be why JFK is no longer with us…he was a patriot!

    • jopa

      Burke: I think you are running in the wrong direction for your families safety.They have the highest murder, rape, death by firearms,and alcoholism rates of all fifty states.Not only that they just want you to visit not stay.

      • Kevin

        Actually that dubious honor goes to Louisiana then Tennessee with Navada coming in third.

      • Kevin

        Sorry “Nevada”

    • Charlie

      Burke,,,
      Don’t go to Alaska,,,UNLESS you have some Technical skills , such as Aircraft Pilot or Mechanic on aircraft or heavy equipment or Cars, trucks etc,,,Political skills will pay off IF,,,you look like a Native… BUT ,,.to go with out skills , means you may get very cold and hungry and / or the flying bugs will suck your blood out in the summer… Give it a try , it’s a beautiful place even at 40 below the young and tuff can take it,,,brains and brawn always helps……………………………….

  • hipshotpercusion

    “Those who would make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable.” John f. Kennedy
    To all you gun grabbers. do you think it is wise to P*ss off an estimated 130 million gun owners? Molon Abbe!

    • Mr Diesel

      It’s Molon Labe, not abbe.

      • Gary

        The big problem is that Obama has the fed, the drones and the tanks!

      • STEVE E.

        Gary, that’s when the freedom lovers gather up the liberals and gun grabbers and use them as human (subhuman) shields.

      • Mike in MI

        Mr. Diesel –
        Why worry about it? In every war, at every period in history where righteous people who both respect and revere God were fighting for right things that He states He underwrites, THE RIGHTEOUS experienced (WHEN THEY BELIEVED ACTIVELY FOR WHAT THEY FACED TO BE ERASED) victory – because they relied on God’s ability and help.
        The Word of GOD says in Isaiah 54:17 “No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; … This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and ‘their righteousness is of me’, saith the Lord”.
        It has always been true that unGodly tyrants build up imposingly mighty forces, weapons, tools, terrorizing displays and vicious troops before they go against their enemy(ies). They make ostentatious display of weapons as technologically advanced and overwhelming imaginable.

        Doesn’t matter. . . God controls the energy that makes the stuff go.

        When Jesus Christ waylaid (the to become Apostle) Paul on the road to Damascus in Acts 9 the lord told Paul, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?”. In hurting the lord’s people Paul was hurting the Lord and interrupting His concerns.

        Not wise, IF somebody among God’s people gets upset enough to take the problem to the Throne Room of God. The more who get involved in making the requests and demands known the better. God will not impose Himself on people. He is a gentleman. If you want and need something that His Word says He is willing and able to do, ask for it and you get it. If you don’t ask you go without. But you’ve got to ask on appropriate grounds: 1.) Gotta be a party to God’s covenant; 2.) Cite where your requests are clauses in the contract – specifically as possible.
        Regarding prayers, some people couldn’t hit the broadside of a cubic barn from the inside with a shotgun – then wonder why God doesn’t respond to them. . . a fool’s gambit.

    • Alex

      Ummm….are you trying to write ‘molon labe’?

    • FreedomFighter

      Hipshot! Looks like you setoff the word analysis scanner in Colorado, got milk?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Yes, an effective strategy to side-track from the meat of a debate. Rather predictable…!

  • Harold Olsen

    I don’t believe the idiots in government plan on using the ammo they are hoarding just against gun owners. There are a lot of us who do not own guns, myself included, who are critical of Obama’s Nazi policies. I believe we will also be targets of the Obama regime. Anyone who opposes Obama is his enemy. Also he may plan on using the ammo to help him stay in office once his second term is over. He has the power and I do not believe he is willing to give it up. President—or should I say dictator— for life.

    • FreedomFighter

      History says:

      they plan on using every last bullet to enforce the agenda – its called culling the resistance.

      Provoke the loyal Americans to the point where they cant take it anymore, as the most brave begin to resist — call them extremist in the media, a danger, a threat, then wipe them out to the very last person, man woman or child — set an example to keep the less brave in line with the agenda. Rinse and repeat until all the sheeple submit.

      Slow cooker takedown, all the while plastering the media calling them “The New Terrorists”

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • hipshotpercusion

        I will see you in the trenches. I will not be going quietly into the camp, or the long dark night of tyranny!

      • FreedomFighter

        Never let them provoke you into stupidity, work for freedom and liberty on your own terms, at times of your own choosing, never let them goad you into useless acts.

        To provoke loyal Americans into useless acts is what they want, to justify killing and more security and to use in media propaganda messages…dont give it to them.

        Make them use false flag methods and get exposed for being what they are.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • BrotherPatriot

        I believe you know me as the fierce, out spoken Truth speaker, ex Navy SEAL who continually talks about ROOT level thinking in order to deal with the worlds threat of the New World Order (NWO). (Trust me…I’m keenly aware of how that all sounds but the truth is the truth is the truth & that’s just the way that it is.) FF, understand that many of us veterans & awake citizens do take your warning to heart. Even as focused as I am on the threat that I sense America has been-is facing, I still strive to be the calming voice to my fellow concerned patriots.

        I would like to add here that a lot of my knowledge & pieces of the puzzle that I have collected are due to what I’ve learned from other Truth speakers on this and other sites like it. Alternative news is the only choice for an awake citizen once you understand that the public media is a propaganda machine for the ruling Oligarchy. On these alternative sites, the articles themselves plus posted comments can lead as a spring board into all kinds of other items of knowledge during an individuals research which helps to shed light upon the various problems as you become fully aware of them.

        I still have some strange sense of hope that if enough humans on this planet become aware & fully understand what the NWO equation is and just what exactly they have been up to now for 100′s of years…that we could change this world into what we as a species are supposed to have, a Utopia where we as a species are in harmony with mother nature, the Universe & God.

        But because the people who control much of the human experience are evil, Luciferians who believe that the light bringer is the good God…the force & influence that they represent helps to create discord, war and generally influence the world to strife.

        I’m tired of a lifetime of lies & I don’t want to pass the buck to my children. If there must be trouble let it come during my time. I want to address this ROOT level thinking publicly for my Oath to the Constitution demands me to stand up to this threat that I & others perceive. So yes, FF…some of us are aware & I personally stand within the body of the Republic as a vigilant, watching American Patriot who is becoming more & more vocal about what I think is and has been happening to us all.

        God Bless & FF, I have enjoyed your responses through the years.

    • Don 2

      You may recall the story broke by Joseph Farah, regarding Barack Obama’s announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department.

      Then, at a campaign stop in Colorado July 2, 2008, Barack Obama said, “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

      And then there was the passing of the defense reauthorization bill, killing the concept of habeas corpus, and authorizing Obama to use the military to arrest and indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial. The legislation empowers this lame-duck president to use all of the power of the federal government, both constitutional and unconstitutional, to target his political enemies.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Don 2 says, “You may recall the story broke by Joseph Farah, regarding Barack Obama’s announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department”. Yes Don, Joseph Farah, of the notoriously wingnutty site WND, did greatly distort what O’Bama said, and the circular firing squad has endlessly repeated it ever since, along with the newer paranoia about the defense reauthorization bill..

        Obama was not talking about a “security force” with guns or police powers. He was talking specifically about expanding AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and the USA Freedom Corps, which is the volunteer initiative launched by the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, and about increasing the number of trained Foreign Service officers who populate U.S. embassies overseas.

        Here is the relevant portion of what Obama actually said,

        Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO:

        “[As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

        “People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

        “We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.

        “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

        “This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up”.

        Have you even read these actual words that O’Bama spoke, Don? Does that sound like a force that could kick down your door in the middle of the night and haul you off to a Gulag or concentration camp?

        Since what Farah cherry picked and Don 2 parroted is only these two sentences, I thought that we all might benefit from a bit of truth here. “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded”. It’s sad that those on the paranoid right can’t find any real issues to argue about and must keep making things up so that they will have straw men to attack

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

        Wow, that’s some speech from the “pretender” in office, RBT. But it is a well known fact amongst dictators, that a private army is necessary to control the great unwashed masses over which they force their rule…the “impostor”, the “puppet” of the oligarchs and the plutocracy, Obama, has clearly assumed dictatorial powers over “apathetic” Americans. He has all but silenced the people’s voice in government, and the US Congress, by simply by-passing them and ruling by “executive order”…just like any other “two-bit” dictator.

        Even the US Supreme Court has lost the steel from its collective spine under the constant pressure and intimidation from our domestic dictator. If one didn’t know any better, one would think there is a move afoot to institute a complete Marxist insurgency in America with “Joker-Tut” at the top, and at the leading edge…and you following behind like a drooling-lemming! You know what you can do with your propaganda, don’t you?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yes, JAY, that IS really some speech from the POTUS —-it helped him get elected in 2008 and that philosophy helped again for the WIN in 2012.

        You are the “pretender”, JAY, with all your slimy propagandizing and outright lying about the state of affairs in the country—-Goebbels would be proud! .

        I know what I can do with my TRUTH—-use it to expose you for what you are—-a slimy propagandizer and liar—-or did I say that already?

      • Kevin

        I can find no evidence that President Obama has any other use for this “Army” Than to waste Taxpayer money. It was bundled into his Health care Program and he has said little if anything about it since. I watched a video of the first 231 recruits Graduating and one of them actually said…”we don’t really know what our job description is but we’re willing to help out.”
        There is no “Brown shirt” Army here….. just Pork.

      • Don 2

        Right Brain Thinker,

        Normally, I do not bother reading your posts. They are usually nothing more than a long winded personal attack, and leftist ranting, hell-bent on getting in the last word, no matter what. However, in this case, I will make an exception.

        Obama’s exact words were, “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national “security” objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national “security force” that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

        Let the reader hear for themselves:

        http://hotair.com/archieves/2008/07/17/are-the-media-airbrushing-obamas-speeches/

        Now, in FY 2008, the DOD budget was about $482 billion. That’s a lot of money to equip a national “security force”. So, Obama aims to tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda. It’s Orwellian-like, with a novices social activist’s mentality at the helm.

        To diminish the danger that ideology will deteriorate into dogma, and to protect the free, open, questing and creative mind of man, as well as to allow for change, no ideology should be more specific than that of America’s founding fathers: “For the general welfare.” ~ Saul Alinsky (Rules For Radicals)

        A Marxist begins with “his” prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order or the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage – the political paradise of communism. ~ Saul Alinsky (Rules For Radicals)

        Let us not forget that Barack Obama was an admitted revolutionary Marxist when he entered Occidental College.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Don 2 says, he does not bother reading my posts. That’s quite obvious. He apparently doesn’t even read the ones he replies to, if this comment is any indication. I love the “sniffing down his nose” condescension of his “making an exception” and reading this one. If you can’t show superiority in your arguments and comments, just TAKE it as if you had earned it, and go “sniff-sniff”. And that’s NOT a “personal attack”, Don. Most of the things that I say that you and others interpret that way are just statements of truth that you don’t want to hear because they don’t suit your narrow-minded approach to the world and inflated self-images. Too bad for you—-suck it up.

        Obama’s exact words were made over FOUR years ago and were part of a campaign speech—-just rhetoric. They were not referring to a “national security force” that was designed to meet the same “national security needs” that the military does, but a “force” of do-gooders that would meet the goals of making the nation stronger by building at the community level—stronger communities that support people contribute to “national security” of a different kind than the military. I too went “yeah yeah” when I heard him say it—-fine sounding campaign talk.

        Yes , Obama’s exact words were, “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national “security” objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national “security force” that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” As I said, taking them out of context and misinterpreting their meaning so badly is just a cheap political trick. And why have you put those quotation marks in there around “security” and “security force”? Is it because you recognize that Obama was NOT using the terms in the way that Farah and WND and you would like us to believe?

        I don’t believe the DOD budget includes any of the programs Obama was talking about—-why do you bring it up?

        “Obama aims to tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda. It’s Orwellian-like, with a novices social activist’s mentality at the helm”.
        WOW—such flaming rhetoric! Did you make this up yourself—-sounds copied from somewhere—-WND maybe?

        And yet more meaningless Alinsky references. Too bad Don can’t come up with something in his own words rather than just give us “clips” of someone else’s thinking. I’ve addressed this particular one elsewhere, and it was addressed to Don, but Don doesn’t read replies, so here it is again:

        Don 2 asks, “What public figure comes to mind when you read this?”

        My response, “I immediately think of all those conservatives who have used Alinsky’s methods for the last 40 years—-the Armeys and the the “right think” tanks supported by the Koch Brothers. They have done a masterful job of confusing a large portion of the population about who is really trying to subjugate them. Alinsky’s ideas are old and referred to Marxists, but the plutocracy and the corporate oligarchs have turned them to their advantage—-by trying to get the proletariat to turn against the government (their only hope for survival) as we head for the last stage—-corporate feudalism. (And when are the righties going to acknowledge that they owe much to Alinsky? Do they think everyone is so dumb that they won’t figure out that they are talking out of both sides of their mouths?)”

        And “Let us not forget that Barack Obama was an admitted revolutionary Marxist when he entered Occidental College”. Really? Were you there with him? Have you got some source for that horsepucky? Tell us more!

      • Don 2

        Right Brain Thinker,

        C’mon, you must be kidding? I thought everyone knew about Obama and Marxism? Here’s is a 1980 account from John C. Drew, Ph.D. Also, you might want to follow-up on Obama’s course of radical studies at Columbia in order to get a better understanding. Hope this helps?

        http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/meeting_young_obama.html

        P.S. – If you do reply, please leave out the “wingnutty” and “horsepucky” stuff. It’s really boring old repetition, and is almost as irritating as when Obama opens his mouth on television. I have to turn the channel on him, and go past your posts w/o reading them.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Don 2 just can’t give up with the wing nuttery—-a 1980 account?—-32+ years ago? Course of studies at Columbia way back then? I care more about what is going on right now in this country and what O’Bama has done since his election in 2008. And what he has done doesn’t include even 5% of the horsepucky that you and your wing nut buddies have mindlessly and endlessly repeated as truth. The old “say it enough times and a lie becomes truth” game is all you know—-THAT’S what’s boring. And you are a total idiot if you really do have to “turn the channel” when he speaks—-I only muted Romney when he appeared to tell his lies.

        And I wish you WOULD go totally past my posts. You say you don’t read them but you somehow feel that you are qualified to reply to them w/o reading them? Great logic there. Yeah, go on by and save me the time wasted in dealing with you..

      • Don 2

        Right Brain Thinker,

        According to you, Obama’s history as a revolutionary Marxist, and his activities at Occidental in 1980, as well as his radical studies at Columbia, are of no importance today. To this I say:

        “The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them” ~ Maya Angelou

        I turn the channel when Obama comes on for a good reason. He is a first class liar, and one cannot believe anything that he says; not to mention that the very sight of this piece of Marxist crap makes me want to puke.

      • pissed of & liberal

        A lot of people who claimed to follow marx in the 60′s,70′s,and 80′s have abandend his teachings to become mainstream democrats who are just as capitilist as republicans.

      • Don 2

        pissed off & liberal,

        Regarding Obama, you point is???

      • pissed of & liberal

        My point is that Obama like so many others was on the right path but sold out for a chace at politcal power. if he kept Marx’s ideas things would be better then they are now.

      • Patriot

        Marx’s ideas DO accomplish fairness. EVERYONE is equally broke and EQUALLY working at the whim of the government. Oh – I misspoke – not everyone is broke under Marxism. The ‘leaders and officials’ somehow become seriously wealthy….How is that possible? Again, failed in every country it has ever been tried. I have demonstrated this time and again, and you ignore it and press on.

      • pissed of & liberal

        One problem with your theory leaders under Marxism are paid a WORKERS wage and hours will be assigned according to examples set forth by the likes of MR Robert Owen of NEW LANDARK and others.

      • Patriot

        Yeah, but show me a socialist country where the leaders are paid a workers wage.
        Just one. Show me ONE where the leaders aren’t wealthy.
        Stagnated economies is the result. It has never worked. And it cannot work.
        Seriously, pick a socialist country that you admire.
        I will consider you my next charitable project and pay your expenses for relocating there. It is my gift to you.
        If you want to, I will provide you with my office number. You can call my assistant and we will make the arrangements.

      • pissed of & liberal

        Here’s my counteroffer how about after the people’s revolution overthrows this corrupt system i pay for your ticket because the new America will have no need for exploiters like you.

      • Kevin

        It seems that you can find pure stupidity at both ends of the spectrum.

      • http://yahoo don

        OweBunhole is expanding his power. what he wants to do is create a modern gestapo or a kgb. i don’t understand where the money is coming from. this country is broke and it probly would cost upwards of a trillion dollars to implement something so huge. where would it come from. all he’d have to do is declare a national emergency and the constitution would be thrown out..

  • Mike in MI

    Ok, here it’s almost two in the morning. PLD has 15 views and no comments, until mine.
    Looks like the government spy brigade is out now gearing up for how they are going to land on their feet tomorrow, break their legs and crawl to the aid station.
    Well, fine, let them crawl, bleedin’ and cryin’ for ‘Doc” to kiss their owee and stick ‘em with an ampule.
    I’ll bet every one of the trolls and butt-bumpers who sign in every morning to scratch away at an impossible task (like telling free men and women that what they have isn’t worth defending and everybody should quit being so paranoid). I’ll bet every one of those scum are carrying because they are afraid of muggers as they go to their cubes to attack the free world. They’re afraid of muggers because of the world Obumster is building and they’re ASSisting him make things more miserable for themselves. Guess that’s liberal smarts.
    “Smarts” don’t it?
    I’ve said it before and now again. If the Obumblatterer were a sincere and honest would-be leader he would look at what he’s brought to pass and come to the realization that, “it jus’ ain’t workin’, boss”.
    Then resign, And, were he sincere, he’d say “I thought I had answers, like I said back in ’08. But it just ain’t working, folks. I have done nothing of what I said I could. Sorry to leave you but I have to quit for the good of the people that I sought to help. G’ bye”.

    Is he SINcere? Not yet. Lots o’ SIN, very little “cere”. That’s what makes me feel if we who are Christian believers will do what God asks on the authority of I Timothy 2:1-4 and pray for kings and those who are in authority, things will change – one way or the other. Either he changes or takes the consequences – nothing he trys to do will work for him. Might even come back on him. Once he sends something somewhere to do something, if it can’t work it comes back at him. It’s a spiritual law.
    Whatever, … can we lose by doing what Father asks? Do ya think?

    • wizzardous

      But then America’s vilest man would be replaced by America’s dumbest man in the WH. Biden is the best life insurance policy a prez could hope for.

      • hipshotpercusion

        At least that Jackass Biden is an American citizen. O-homo isn’t!

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