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How Jimmy Carter Ruined America Twice

February 28, 2013 by  

 

Until Barack Obama came along, Jimmy Carter held the title “Worst President in U.S. History.” Now, Carter may have taken the title back. You would have thought he’d be satisfied with almost destroying the U.S. economy and almost breaking the spirit of our country once. But, no! Thirty-three years later, Carter is now instrumental in helping Obama finish the job he started.

As President from 1976 to 1980, Carter came close to wrecking our economy and our entire country. An ultra-liberal, politically correct do-gooder, just like Obama, Carter announced his Presidency would be dedicated to “compassion” and human rights. And, just as had happened during Obama’s tenure, the leftist gobbly-gook “feel-good philosophy” led to disaster.

The Carter nightmare included four years of crippling high unemployment, stagflation of 13.5 percent, unimaginable 21.5 percent interest rates, record gas prices, shortages and gas lines, a doubling of the deficit from $27 billion to almost $60 billion, U.S. embassy personnel in Iran held hostage, an unsuccessful hostage rescue attempt, the embarrassing decline of our military, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. America almost did not survive Carter.

Along came a true patriot and American hero, Ronald Reagan, who turned Carter’s malaise and misery and the worst economy since the Great Depression into the greatest economic turnaround and expansion in world history. Reagan showed the world that America was indeed the “shining beacon on the hill.” Reagan made us great again and, by doing so, exposed Carter as an incompetent, ultra-liberal laughingstock. To make matters worse for Carter’s legacy, the U.S. hostages in Iran were released on Reagan’s Inauguration Day. Carter never forgave Reagan or America for leaving his reputation in tatters.

Carter wandered the wilderness for the past 33 years, growing more angry and bitter with each passing year. He took out his anger by embarrassing the United States and meddling in foreign affairs. He spent the past 33 years denouncing Israel, praising nations that supported Muslim terrorists, defying the U.S. travel ban to Cuba and praising tyrants like Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Yugoslavian dictator Josip Broz Tito and North Korean despot Kim Il Sung. He oversaw election fraud and corruption in Venezuela and Haiti and declared everything fair and square. The man has spent 33 bitter, disgraceful years venting his hatred for America.

Now, Carter has finally gotten his revenge. Angry at America’s success since Reagan, including those 40 million new jobs created since the early 1980s, Carter might be the man most responsible for Obama’s re-election, allowing him to continue the destruction Carter began all those years ago in 1976.

How did Carter help re-elect Obama? Mitt Romney was poised to do to Obama exactly what Reagan did to Carter. A brilliant businessman and turnaround specialist, Romney was the perfect man to again save America. He would have turned around this Obamageddon economy in two years with low taxes, reduced spending and smaller government — exactly how Reagan saved us from Carter. But along came that secret tape where Romney discussed “the 47 percent” of Americans who want government to give them checks and will vote for the politician who keeps the checks coming. The release of that tape was the beginning of the end for Romney. His reputation, likeability ratings and Presidential campaign never recovered.

Well guess who released that damaging tape? It was Carter’s grandson, Democratic operative Jimmy Carter IV, getting sweet revenge for Grandpa.

Carter’s grandson said: ”I’ve been hearing all my life people making fun of my grandfather, or saying that he was a bad president, or things like that, and I’ve just gotten used to it. And it’s nice to be able to hit back.”

Upon seeing the tape of Romney’s remarks, the former President said in an email to his grandson: ”James: This is extraordinary. Congratulations! Papa.”

It may not have been the only reason Romney lost, but it certainly did more damage to his campaign than anything Obama said in months of campaigning. And so, with the help of Carter’s grandson, history was changed. Instead of a modern-day Reagan, we got stuck with a second, disastrous term of a modern-day Carter. If Carter had been re-elected back in 1980, there very likely would never have been 40 million new jobs over the next 25 years. America’s military and economy probably never would have recovered, and we’d have a lower standard of living and gasoline prices of $8 per gallon — just like in the European socialist countries both Carter and Obama want America to emulate.

But thanks to Carter’s grandson, it’s Groundhog Day. Carter gets a do-over. We’re about to see what would have happened if we’d never elected Reagan and had given Carter a chance to finish the job of destroying America. We’re about to see if Obama can finish the job of destroying the U.S. economy in a second term — all in the name of tax and spend, compassion, fairness, social justice, and human rights.

Once Obama is done using Carter’s ultra-left policies to gain retribution and redistribution, I can imagine only that America will be a shell of its former self. America’s military will decline, the U.S. economy will continue in misery and malaise, inflation will return to unimaginable heights, debt will continue to rise, and gas lines and rationing will once again be part of our lives. America will be anything but exceptional.

Congratulations, Carter. It took 33 years and your grandson’s help, but you’ve finally gotten your revenge on the American people and American exceptionalism.

Sadly, just like a second term of Carter, I can promise you, this will not end well.

I’m Wayne Allyn Root for PersonalLiberty.com. See you next week. Same time, same place. That’s when I’ll present to you the solution, the perfect model to save America and the U.S. economy. Carter and Obama won’t like it. But it is proven to work. See you next week. God bless America.

Wayne Allyn Root

(W.A.R.) is a former Presidential candidate, the 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee and a Tea Party favorite. He is the ultimate capitalist evangelist: a blue-collar S.O.B. (son of a butcher) turned small businessman, entrepreneur, CEO, home-schooler and citizen politician. Root is a talk-show host, bestselling author, business speaker and TV/radio commentator on business, economics, entrepreneurship and politics. He is a regular guest on Fox News, as well as on hundreds of radio shows across the United States. Root's opinions reach tens of millions of Americans as a regular columnist and commentator for many of the most popular political and business websites, including FoxNews.com. He also writes regularly for The Washington Times. He is the bestselling author of seven books. Root serves as national spokesman for several companies, including Asset Strategies International, a global precious metals company, and Senior Economic Advisor to Wealth Masters International, a global financial services company. He is also well known in the television and media industries. Root started his career as an anchorman and host for CNBC (then known as Financial News Network). He has hosted, starred and produced many television shows. Today, he is a producer of the highest-rated television show on Travel Channel, "Ghost Adventures."  Because of his success in the diverse fields of business, media, sports, entertainment and publishing, Root was awarded his own 180-pound granite star in the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. Only 50 legends in the history of Las Vegas have received a star on Las Vegas Boulevard. Root joins Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Wayne Newton, Liberace and Dean Martin, along with other icons of business and entertainment. Root's star can be viewed in front of New York New York Resort. A native New Yorker and graduate of prestigious Columbia University, this capitalist evangelist proudly resides in Nevada, a State with no personal or business income tax. His website is ROOTforAmerica.com.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/spotmeows Michael McVey

    It wasn’t Carter’s fault. It is always what happens when the GOP establishment chooses the candidate. It happened with McVain in 2008, Rob the (public) Dole in 1996 and Carter’s own opponent in 1976.

  • rendarsmith

    Romney to do to Obama what Reagan did to Carter? Romney isn’t even a conservative! When are Mr. Root and these other people going to figure out that ROMNEY LOST BECAUSE HE WAS ROMNEY! He didn’t win over the conservatives! Many conservatives didn’t even vote because they didn’t see any difference between Romney and Obama. Most Americans are sick of these proxy wars in the Middle East. Romney was gun-ho about starting a war with Iran! Why do you think so many conservatives supported Ron Paul? That comment exposed by Carter’s grandson did not lose the election for Romney. Choosing another Karl Rove crony RINO is what lost it. Quit making excuses! Listen to the voters and start nominating grass roots conservatives instead of these liberal RINOs! If you keep ignoring us, we WILL NOT vote for your candidate!

    • Jana

      rendarsmith,
      I agree.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        I too agree with that summation , `Romney was rejected and rejected early ~ but the GOP machine promoted him anyway, And why I say, there is a major disconnect between the GOP and the average American voter today.

        The GOP machine represent corporate interest first and foremost, the will of the people coming in a distant second.

  • MNIce

    Mr. Root, just as it is unjust to condemn a son for the sins of his father, it is unfair to condemn Grandpa Carter for the deeds of his grandson. At most, he can be criticized for his approval of grandson Jimmy’s video. But giving him the blame for the re-inauguration of Mr. Obama? That’s a stretch.

    The video would have gone nowhere if there was not an element of truth to it. Mr. Romney called it correctly – half of the nation no longer wants to be American, but would rather live like the socialist kleptocracies of the Third World, with pretensions of emulating the socialist kleptocracies of Europe. When the government becomes an instrument to fulfill covetous desires, the nation has been stolen by thieves. Mr. Romney’s error was in underestimating how many thieves we have in the electorate.

    Don’t misunderstand, you liberals who kiss the outhouse after Mr. Obama uses it. I know you don’t believe you are thieves. You think you are so compassionate, kind and caring when you insist the government provide umpteen services for “the poor and disadvantaged.” But where does the money to provide for those services come from? It comes from the people who work hard to provide for their own families so they will not be public charges, and it’s taken from their pay before they can spend one dime on groceries for their children. It comes from inflationary printing, which devalues dollars around the world. This devaluation steals from the people of other nations, all poorer than our own, that have adopted the dollar as their currency because of its supposed trustworthiness. This includes Panama, Ecuador, the Philippines, and a number of tiny, resource-limited Pacific Island nations. Just remember that when you cheer for the latest expansion of the Unaffordable Care Act, you support draining what little savings an Ecuadoran farmer might have. Those who “do charity” with other people’s money taken by force are robbers just as much as those who entertain themselves with other people’s money taken by force.

    • Liberty Lover

      Outstanding comment, MNice. Lincoln once said you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. Obama laughed and said, you need only fool 51% of the people most of the time.

      • APM

        LL…SAD BUT TRUE!

        APN

    • Don 2

      You are right on with your comments. I’ll add that, unlike Americans who spend approx. 10% of their income on food, many of these people in poorer nations have to spend 50% of their income on food, and it is because of this intentional devaluing of the dollar by America, making their lives more miserable and desperate, that they have cause to hate America.

      But, who cares, just keep the printing presses running so I can keep my free Obamaphone…..

  • ibcamn

    i remember all the crap carter did,not good.and i suppose carters grandbrat went to a liberal progressive collage and learned plenty from his grandad!it shows!did not know it was a carter who turncoated on the United States,-again!!

    • Gary L

      The apples don’t fall far from the tree.

    • eddie47d

      So the grandson exposes the truth about what Romney really thinks about his fellow Americans and you call him a turncoat. Reagan also had plenty of faults so will you spend time calling him out. Not likely! You’re like two birds with those comments….cheap cheap!

      • APM

        Go change your TWEAT TWEAT Diapers Eddie. You must be a direct descendant of JC!

        APN

  • Bob666

    Well,
    WAR continues to approach life from the bubble seeing only part of the facts and using only part of the facts to sell snake oil.

    Romney lost because he lacked substance and could out flip-flop slick Willie. He let the GOP run his campaign and they catered to a demishing base which equals fewer votes.

    While the 47% issue was one of the final nails in his coffin, the GOP was nailing it shut with a nail gun. WAR only proves that he has a very limited view of reality and I do belive that limited view said that Romney would win by a land slide.

    A limited view of reality is a very sad thing.

    • Jana

      Bob666,
      I always said Romney was too nice and didn’t know how to fight fire with fire. He never answered any of his attackers which he should have.
      He just wasn’t devious enough to come up against the Chicago thuggery style election that was performed.
      I never doubted that Romney was smart in business, but not in tactics or government.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    No doubt that Carter was bad for America. He also gave Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the lies of which we are suffering today. Reagan was good but Reagan never once vetoed a spending bill, In his presidency the natonal debt climbed to one trillion for the first time. Believe it or not Clinton was better for the economy. But that’s the past which we never seem to learn from. But Romney? For the economy Romney would have been better that the communist Obama no doubt but what about foreign policy? Now that we know longer follow the sage advise of the founders and poke our nose in everybodies business, our our foreign policy can bring about our demise as fast as the economy. Romney was and is smitten with Zionism, like Bush and Blair were and are. The Zionist movement was conceived in hell. It has NO scriptual backing. Even Orthodox Jews will tell you that. The Zionists in DC almost cost Hagel the appointment to secretary of defense/offense. If Romney had been elected, we would be at war with Iran with Russia and China at their side by how. Netanyahu has a ring in Reomney’s nose. The Zionist movement is pseydo political/religious. It has the power to cause men to die for it. Ask Bush and Blair. For the most part it controls Washington thinking. It and Obama’s communist thinking are at odds with each other. Netanyahu loathes Obama. For foreign policy Obama is better than Romney but when it comes to domestic policy Romney would of been better. Ron Paul would of been better than both by far. We were looking for cake and wanted to eat it to.

    • Caitalist at Birth

      Your ignorance of economic historical facts is astounding. Clinton had little to do with the economic success in the 90′s. He did however, have a great deal to do with the Housing Bubble and it’s predictable collapse. Care to debate the subject?

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Perhaps you should read the charts from Reagan on before debating me.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Which charts ? As there are clearly two different reflections of the Reagan years. ~ Reagan cut taxes, raised taxes, shifted tax burdens, down sized, up scaled, deregulated, regulated while creating a borrow and spend economy and still could not stay in budget.

  • jlmr

    this is horrible. but it does explain alot! carter IV will go down in history as the man who helped destroy america. this is mean to say but I hope he winds up needing help and gets turned down. evil breeds evil.

  • mohican

    Did the 47% comment help Obama win? maybe.

    With lower overall voter turnout in 2012 compared to 2008, Romney got 1 million less votes than McCain did in 2008.

    Romney lost because he was an unappealing candidate who had a guvenatorial record he could not run away from.

    Romney lost because of his treatment of primary opponents and the heavy handed tactics of the Republican party, especially leading up to and including the convention.

    Many people, myself included walked away from the Republican Party in 2008, and were repulsed in both 2008 and 2012 at the parties treatment of Ron Paul.

    Jimmy Four was as much an amusing sideshow as he was a campaign killer.

    • rendarsmith

      I know. I can’t believe people are still making these excuses as to why Romney lost. Is it really that hard to figure out?

    • Caitalist at Birth

      Why must you continue to bang your head against the proverbial brick wall? Ron Paul is not now, nor has he ever been electable to any national office. You libertarians continue to beat this dead horse. Why? Why? Why/

      • Bob666

        Yo CAB,
        While you are correct that Ron Paul was difficult to elect, we supported him because he lacked the “Ick” of the GOP & DNC which have been purchased and are now owned by special interest.

        Does that answer your question?

      • rendarsmith

        Well, how did nominating Romney work out for you?

      • Bob666

        Yo Radar,
        Good response-sad truth and quite funny, but far more in touch than WAR.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Caitalist at Birth,

        You write: “Ron Paul is not now, nor has he ever been electable to any national office.” Ron Paul would have been electable if he had opposed Obama alone, as he would have drawn votes from the Conservatives, from Republicans and from the pro-civil liberty, anti-war left. However, Republican and MSM dirty tricks prevented it from happening. Romney was never electable and I told you that many times.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Dave67

        Bob L,

        Ron Paul who I agree with on serveral issues could NEVER win. What is his biggest achievement in the House? Has he authored any bills that passed into laws? Until big money is out of the political process from the bottom, up…Ron Paul or a 3rd party candidate has no chance. Even if Paul was alone in the race. The corporatists that own the tea party and the GOP would never allow any threat to their dominance to achieve power.

        Romney would have been a complete disaster and I am thankful that this corporatist, tax evader elitest lost.

      • Average Joe

        Dave67 ,

        “Romney would have been a complete disaster and I am thankful that this corporatist, tax evader elitest lost.”

        No matter which of the two “media darlings” took the election the only losers were… the American people.

        AJ

      • Bob666

        Yo Joe,
        “No matter which of the two “media darlings” took the election the only losers were… the American people”.

        I would agree with you on that comment.

      • Dave67

        AJ,

        Then change the dynamic. Stop the biggest threat to this country. Big money in the political arena. I vote for people that want to clean up the system, not maintain the status quo.

      • TML

        Talk about beating a dead horse. Still parroting the same nonsense. Fascinating that even the mention of Ron Paul has such an effect on intellectually deficient minds.

      • Average Joe

        “AJ,

        Then change the dynamic. Stop the biggest threat to this country. Big money in the political arena.I vote for people that want to clean up the system, not maintain the status quo.”

        To do so will require real sacrifice. The only way to stop big money from involving itself in our political arena…is to stop them from having big money to involve themselves with. How pray tell can that be done?
        We all need to start voting…with our wallets. Remember, money is the only language that they speak fluently…other than power ( if they lose the money…they lose the power.
        Candidates will promise us the universe and all the bells an whistles to go with it…if we will only vote for them. Once elected, they have no more use for any of us…until the next election. On the other hand, if we all stop spending our money (buying their products , watching their networks , paying for their cable,phones, cars etc.) which keeps these big money entities in power…the money will dry up and so will the influence.
        The way I see it, if you are not willing to sacrifice a bit of luxury for a small amount of time to change our current political situation…then you don’t have any room to complain…because you are fueling the fire and are not part of the problem…you have become the problem. Starve the beast…it is the only logical way to approach the problem.
        Whatever they are selling…we aren’t buying……..

        AJ

      • APM

        Bob Said:

        Dear Caitalist at Birth,

        You write: “Ron Paul is not now, nor has he ever been electable to any national office.” Ron Paul would have been electable if he had opposed Obama alone, as he would have drawn votes from the Conservatives, from Republicans and from the pro-civil liberty, anti-war left. However, Republican and MSM dirty tricks prevented it from happening. Romney was never electable and I told you that many times.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        __________________________________________________________________

        …and yes Bob, you told me basically the same thing, and yes, you were CORRECT!

        I hate it when I’m wrong, BUT, it happens!

        APN

  • http://www.libertarianboard.com reality

    Walter, Obama has spent more than Bush and has increase the deficit and debt. He’s also raied taxes on businesses – something he said he wouldn’t do during a recesion because it would hurt jobs and economic growth…but he did it anyway. Obama owns this mess and he made a bad situation worse.

    • Dave67

      Name the spending that put him spending more than Bush 2 please. Be specific.

      Do you know what happens to Gov tax receipts during a recession?

      How about spending on the social programs that get people retrained and back to work, how about programs that prevent people from starving when they can’t find a job??

      • Caitalist at Birth

        Who’s money are you talking about spending? Somebody else can pay for it. Right? The deficit spending will lead to a devaluation of the dollar. It is now worth around 7 cents compared to 100 years ago. Thank God for the increase in productivity or we would all be living in cardboard shacks. Where do you think the money to pay for your fantasies will come from when you have destroyed all of the producers? You need to read “Animal Farm” by George Orwell. It provides a perfect analogy that even you can understand if you open your mind.

      • Dave67

        Caitalist at Birth,

        Please stay on point. The money we spend is ours, it was ours when Reagan spent us into oblivion, it was ours when Bush used 9-11 to get us into Iraq.

        Its called being in a society, Libertarians may not care about the country but the rest of us do. It takes money to make a society run in a developed country. You can either pay for what you spend or put it on credit. Reagan kicked “putting things on credit” into high gear.

      • Charlie R

        Dave67:
        Sorry to say that if someone has to explain how Obama has out spent every other president put together you missed the details in the news.
        Here is a clue, SIXTEEN TRILLION and GROWING

        Soon people will become very aware of Obamas impact the wallet and discover that choices that were taken for granted are forever gone.

        Consider this:
        Every time the government makes a law … government gains more control and we lose freedom.
        Every time the government raises taxes they get more “wasteful buying power” and we have less disposable income.

        How much longer do we wish to feed this BEAST?

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Charlie R say ; “Sorry to say that if someone has to explain how Obama has out spent every other president put together you missed the details in the news.”

        I say, ” So you are sorry that we can’t all drink for the same poisoned well? ”

        “Well Charlie if you wish to be and stay misinformed that is your right”. ” It’s right that I would never deny you as it is guaranteed by our constitution and it works very well for the rest of us”.

        “How else could we get people to buy Edsels and ocean front property in Arizona or defeat you in elections?”

        “Why don’t we up that number to say, 20 trillion that Obama has spent, just for more effect?”

  • FreedomFighter

    I lived thru Carter, it was dismal, then came Reagan and I was again proud to be an American. Reagan was dazzleing example of a good president.

    Now we have Obama, and it is dismal.

    Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.–John Adams

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • Dave67

      facts are stubborn things.

      tripling of our debt
      Iran-contra
      Allowing 200 Marines to be blown up with no response
      Stagnation of middle class and poor wages while the wealthy’s skyrocketed.. (but we will make it easier to hang yourself with credit cards)
      ketchup as a vegtable
      The most corrupt administration in our lifetime besides Nixon.

      Reagan was the personification of style over substance and he led us down the path where we are today.

      I used to be a Young Republican in college and I voted for him. I seriously regret that vote. He is no hero.

      • Caitalist at Birth

        You must have been a Rockefeller Republican, which is another form of totalitarianism dating back to the likes of Lincoln, Nixon, G, H. W,. Bush, and Teddy Roosevelt.

      • Dave67

        Caitalist at Birth,

        Please review what the tern “totalitarian” means because its clear you have no clue. Castro was totalitarian, Saudi Arabia is totalitarian…

        The United States has never been anywhere close to totalitarian. I do wish the rightists would understand the big words that they throw around.

      • FreedomFighter

        Sorry Dave67, you spew garbage as fact:

        Nobody allowed an attack on 200 marines, terrorists rarely ask permission. For the rest of your diatrab, investigation reveals the things you claim as “fact” on face values, have like an onion layers of “fact” and as you dig deeper you always seem to find a elite progressive down that rabbit hole.

        Im not 20 with no concept of history, I was living during these times and no amount of a rewrite by you will change that.

        Reagan was not perfect, but was exceptional as a president, loved America and American values and if he were running against Obama he would win in a landslide of unimaginalbe degree.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • Dave67

        And FF so was I. It is a fact that Reagan did nothing in response for that attack. His administration was corrupt, he did us no long term economic favors.

        He was a good cheerleader as long as you didn’t bother to look at the details.

      • eddie47d

        Freedom Fighter if it wasn’t allowed (241 killed),(which it was because of lack of security) then you and your cohorts have no grounds in which to attack Obama on Benghazi (4 killed). I think you are ignoring historical facts to rewrite your own lopsided agenda.

  • Vigilant

    I don’t often disagree with you, Mr. Root, but I think your perception of the facts may be a tad clouded by your supreme dislike for Carter.

    Even if Carter had a direct effect on the election via the release of that tape, Romney’s remarks about the 47% were true. You’re implying it’s OK for a politician to pander to the people, that Romney should have lied to the electorate as much as Obama to fight fire with fire. I do not agree. It was the ignorance, greed and short sightedness of the people that put Obama back in office.

    Secondly, you make a whopping assumption that Romney would have been another Reagan. I think we have found enough differences in political philosophy between the two to gainsay that contention. Your assertion that “Romney was the perfect man to again save America” is highly debatable.

    • Warrior

      Maybe, just maybe, we would have gotten policies to promote the “private sector”. Without those we are doomed! Obviously not enough understand or care. I voted for Carter and it was the last time I ever voted for a demonrat. Ya know, Jesse Jr. was diagnosed with a bi-polar disorder yet he displayed ALL the same behavioral patterns as the rest of the “progressive caucas” including the “fraud”. One can only conclude that “progressivism = bi-polar disorder” and right now there is an epidemic of “sick people” in gubmint.

      • nc

        Warrior, what makes Jessie, Jr ,any different from Spiro Agnew and other Republicans who have been connected to fraud and stealing? No conservatives have ever been guilty of fraud or stealing? Really??? None??? Ever???

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Vigilant Romneys comments about the 47% were not true. Unless you believe Military Veterans and The Elderly and The Working poor are lazy and have no responsibility.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

    Yeah, and if Mitt had wings he could fly. ~

    But he does not and I am glad.

    What is a Wayne Allen Root promise selling for today’s market?

    So many times of being wrong should have a down side for an odds maker.

    So neither Mitt Romney or yourself should held responsible for your own words?

  • James Hanrahan

    Fellow Americans, as a Conservative American for many years, I have to say, America is doomed! Obama has won, we will become whatever he and the Progressive Democrats want it to be. Obama has won every battle he has had with, Conservatism. He has achieved all the goals he has set for himself and his, “Svengali,” George Soros. We will now be plunged into a, “Financial Depression,” that we may never recover from, it will last for years, our descendants will struggle to pay off the debts that Obama and the Democrats have piled upon us. By the time the American public realizes what has happened, it will be too late to fix it! America, the country that the world saw as the, “Country Of Opportunity And Freedom,” will no longer exist, it will be just another third rate nation! What will emerge, is, if we’re lucky, a “World Governance!” Everyone will be controlled by the, United Nations, all laws and regulations will be made by them. We will be ruled by their edicts and we will have to answer to their, “Judges.” Americans, through their, lack of attention, threw away their, standards, morals, freedoms and all that made America the country it was founded to be! Americans fought for, in most cases, to free other countries from, “Despots, Tyrants, Oppressors and all who would suppress freedom. I have to say, it was great while it lasted, we shall never see a country such as America again, it was a great experiment and for awhile, it worked, it took a very talented, “Charlatan,” to defeat it but he did, with the support of, Labor Unions, Minorities, Homosexuals and uninformed Americans! We were, entertained by, Sports, Hollywood, Broadway, Television and the Main Stream Media, they did not do the job they were supposed to do! We had a compliant news media who, lied, exaggerated and supported every misdeed that the Democratic Party perpetrated on America. I think that covers most of what caused the demise of the once great, United States Of America! When America Turned Its Back On God, God Stopped Protecting It!

    • Adolf Schmidt

      Your right, 100%! I think the time has passed for a recovery, a turnaround, and both sides know it! We are watching a elaborate theatrical production, only meant to keep us occupied while they prepare the elite for the financial collapse that is almost surely emanate! I do believe when the entitlements(food stamps, welfare, housing, SS, and disability) are gone, the people will turn on each other to survive! The old and disabled will die off first, the rest of what’s left, will resort to stealing and killing to make ends meet! Obama has the paper work ready to impose martial law and seize control of all energy and food resources! It’s convenient that Obama is pulling the troops State side this next year! It’s also convenient to have ordered enough bullets to have run the war in Iraq for 30 years! Once the Country has been purged of the strain on it’s economy, they can rebuild. Now there will be enough jobs to go round, and the immigration reform supplied plenty of cheap labor! The people that run our government are just that, people! They have the same faults as anyone, they are not special! Open your eyes and don’t follow blindly! I hope I’m wrong, but too many things seem to say I’m right! If I’m wrong, life goes on, no problem! If I’m right, then God Bless and all my best wishes for you and your family!

  • dan

    although you make a point about Carter….I think it’s the media and the GOP that we have to thank for Obama : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAPt5cxPEhs

  • Dave67

    LOL… How is Carter responsible for the 1972 Oil embargo again? Oh thats right he wasn’t. It was Carter’s guy Volker that faixed the interest rate mess, not Greenspan.

    Carter was a horrible politician but the most moral man we had in that seat in my lifetime. He told the truth. Unlike that liar in chief Ronald Reagan. A true Patriot? Reagan told us we would NEVER negotiate with terrorists… Yet he did just that and sold our enemies weapons to pay to put his thugs in Nicaragua in power to replace the old thugs. He should have been impeached for Iran-Contra and Bush 1 should have had his butt thrown in jail for lying about his role in IC.

    Reagan let 200 marines get blown up in Lebanon and his response? A few sloppy rounds from a US Battleship sent into the hills while we cut and ran. Reagan was a coward.

    Under Reagan, worker productivity continued to get better, their wages? Stagnated… The wealthy did really well though and I know this crowd cares deeply about their plight.

    When Reagan left office, he got on a plane and flew to Japan for a couple million to talk to his favorite country, Japan. Carter left office and fought to bring conflicts wherever they may be to an end, bring awareness to social injustice in the world and helped contruct homes for the poor and less fortunate. Oh and while he was in office, got Israel and Egypt to stop fighting each other… What a jerk.

    We should all “wonder in the wilderness” like Jimmy Carter… he has lived his life more in linie with another JC (Jesus Christ) and any right wing loon that claims they are Christian that was our President.

    Root seems to ignore the fact that the tremendous debt we have now had its origins with Reagan. The man tripled outr debt… oops. The man gutted our mental health system and threw many of these people on the streets… oops

    Root is good for comedy, not much else.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Carter might of been a moral man but he forgot all the wealth at his disposal was the people’s, not his. Hge wanted to build a utopia with everybody elses money. He is what you’d call, an innocent. He can see no wrong in his actions and didn’t want to hurt anybody either.

    • jopa

      Dave67;It was also Reagan and Greenspan that figured out how to put Social Security funds into the general fund and rob it of trillions.Reagan Bad,Carter Grandson new American Hero.I would still like to thank the person that made the video that saved America and brought out the truth in Romneys hate for the majority of Americans that if you didn’t have a few million you were a low life piece of crap.Obamas election was Gods way of shedding his grace on thee.Watching all the economic indicators God was right once again and Obama was his choice.

      • BobHi

        Hey Jopa, you butt wipe demoRat–it was one of your own, LBJ, that moved Social Security funds into the general fund, and today nothing but worthless IOU’s remain in that supposed social security vault.

        If your knowledge of historical facts is so abysmal, all your other comments lack any credibility whatsoever. Of course, that statement is true of all the troll dumboRat posters on this site.

      • Bob666

        HiBob,
        “Hey Jopa, you butt wipe demoRat”
        What a class act you are!

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Bob HI says “Hey Jopa, you butt wipe demoRat–it was one of your own, LBJ, that moved Social Security funds into the general fund, and today nothing but worthless IOU’s remain in that supposed social security vault. ”

        “How Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan Pulled off the Greatest Fraud Ever Perpetrated against the American People
        by Allen W. Smith / April 14th, 2010

        “When Ronald Reagan became President in 1981, he abandoned the traditional economic policies, under which the United States had operated for the previous 40 years, and launched the nation in a dangerous new direction. As Newsweek magazine put it in its March 2, 1981 issue, “Reagan thus gambled the future — his own, his party’s, and in some measure the nation’s—on a perilous and largely untested new course called supply-side economics.” -

        “Essentially, Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion! -

        “1) President Reagan appointed Greenspan as chairman of the 1982 National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka The Greenspan Commission)

        2) The Greenspan Commission recommended a major payroll tax hike to generate Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could be drawn down during the years after Social Security began running deficits.

        3) The 1983 Social Security amendments enacted hefty increases in the payroll tax in order to generate large future surpluses.

        4) As soon as the first surpluses began to role in, in 1985, the money was put into the general revenue fund and spent on other government programs. None of the surplus was saved or invested in anything. The surplus Social Security revenue, that was paid by working Americans, was used to replace the lost revenue from Reagan’s big income tax cuts that went primarily to the rich.

        5) In 1987, President Reagan nominated Greenspan as the successor to Paul Volker as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Greenspan continued as Fed Chairman until January 31, 2006. (One can only speculate on whether the coveted Fed Chairmanship represented, at least in part, a payback for Greenspan’s role in initiating the Social Security surplus revenue.)

        The practice of using every dollar of the surplus Social Security revenue for general government spending continues to this day. The 1983 payroll tax hike has generated approximately $2.5 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue which is supposed to be in the trust fund for use in paying for the retirement benefits of the baby boomers. But the trust fund is empty! It contains no real assets. As a result, the government will soon be unable to pay full benefits without a tax increase. Money can be spent or it can be saved. But you can’t do both. Absolutely none of the $2.5 trillion was saved or invested in anything. I have been laboring for more than a decade to expose the great Social Security scam. For more information, please visit my website or contact me. -

        - See more at: http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/#sthash.0rjPe9rd.dpuf

      • Dave67
  • Right Brain Thinker

    WAR once again shows us how out of touch with reality he is (except for the “reality” of sayong outrageous things to boost his “footprint” and make more $$$ from that—-that’s why he panders). He will, no doubt, get much support for his “views” from the mindless today, and they too will go very far afield as they ignore reality.

    I just love the fact that WAR would encourage the Repugnants in their belief that it was NOT their fault that THEY nominated Romney and that it was Jimmy Carter’s fault (and his grandson’s—-LOL) that Romney lost. Good job, WAR—–keep the Repugs thinking that way rather than looking at their real problems and we’ll see the Dems in control for the next 50 years.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

      Complete agreement RBT, ~ unhealthy and unhelpful thinking at it finest.

      Most all Candidates depend and expect their words to be broadcast by media.

      The GOP has sold out to outside influence (corporate lobbyist) to such a degree that they can no longer openly discuss the issues of the day and server both their masters, Corporate interest and Americans without appearing disconnected from the voting public.

      Mitt Romney will tell us that Corporate interest are people, while we know the primary reason business forms a Corporation is to limit personal liability and shelter gains. The average American voter is limited in such areas.

      To expect these two forces to share the same laundry list of what American “needs” are and agree on a plan to make it happen is not inside the understanding of “probably” .

      In 2007 Obama stumped that he would address the heavy influence of lobbyist activity on the Hill. ~ But much like closing Gitmo, ~ it’s proved very difficult to do while greater matters supersede such efforts. ~ I think maybe he had their own coffee pot moved to the basement and their White House designated parking moved thirty steps farther away for the back door.

      While lobbying activity is nothing new, ~ here is America ~ it went on Steroids in response to the creation of EPA under the Nixon Administration and when viral under the Reagan administration.

      After 40 years ~ Capital Hill is now awash in special interest money, ~ While both parties are guilty as Cain is taking this money and pandering to corporate interest ~ the GOP has became a glutton and a lush while showing no remorse or repentance to the practice.

      As Dick Chaney would say ~ “It’s fair game” Seeing the practice as an “Equal Opportunity” grab-fest of sorts. And of course Dick Chaney is a Cooperate man and a product of the corporate world not unlike Mitt Romney.

      The 40 year resulted in polarized political discourse and paralyzed the functions of government by making national politics a full body contact sport. A spectator sport with enough appeal the average voters feels required to chose and support his team at every opportunity as Mr. Root has just done, in defense of his losing candidate via an attack on Jimmy Carter and this family.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Well said, Darwan. I hope you’re not implying that the EPA was the sole cause of the lobbying “boom”. The creation of the EPA and the passage of the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts did in fact bring about a massive backlash from the fossil fuel interests and the manufacturers that saw them as requiring pollution cleanups that would affect the ever important bottom line. Actually, I think that was only part of a general mobilization on the right, and that time frame also saw the creation of many “institutes”, “foundations”, and other right wing so-called “think tanks” that have proved to be nothing more than propaganda arms for the plutocracy and corporate oligarchs. And a lot of undiscerning folks on the right have drunk their Koolaid, unfortunately.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        RBT ask, “I hope you’re not implying that the EPA was the sole cause of the lobbying “boom”. ”

        I say, Oh, no,~ not the sole cause, ~ but only to establish a “time line” and allowing cause and effect to do it’s magic.

        I had always thought that the Reagan administration with the Kick Off point in the “time line” in the Corporate take over of America.

        But after reading “Who Stole the American Dream” I had to rethink the place in history that it started without going back to the discovery of “FIRE”, ~I see it as the reaction of Corporate interest to establishing the EPA as clearly is a defining moment .

        The seed to the attack on regulation and labor was planted. Corporate America did not approve of this legislation as it handicapped them in the world market place and they were tired of “Sharing the Wealth” with workers that were just as selfish and greedy as management was , while “labor” not seeing the big picture, not even willing to see the big picture. Labor is subject to be spoiled rotten just like management. I’ve seen it while working in the factories as young man before I became an independent. The can’t be pleased! ~You pay the too much, they don’t need to work everyday, you pay them too little, they come in but don’t produce and always complaining regardless.

        It took several years, 9 to 10 years of effort to build this lobbing underpinning and muster the power to effect great change. Reagan was always a “pitch man” for Corporate America, even when he was a Democrat. ~ by 1980 Corporate America was ready to take back what they claim to be theirs. “Profits” Reagan was the right man for the job, ~ right time, right place.

        This shifting of power and responsibility might be all fine and good if it had stopped with Reagan’s administration, the adjustment in balance of power and equity made between sole ownership, labor and corporate . But it didn’t stop there, but continues today as Labor and sole proprietorship fights for survival on an unlevel playing field against Corporate giants.

        Today, Americans are being told Corporations are people! And like people, have the right to vote! ~ If that is the case, ~ the people need what Corporations enjoys, Tax breaks, limited personal liability and subsidies!

        Corporations now have the power to influence and affect great change, ~ while laboring Americans see the power of their single vote and their voice muted by this influence.

        I don’t see any change in this political dynamics in the near or distant future ~ this is the way it going to be. ~ This leaves us to come to grips with the position that we find ourselves in today ~ control what we can control and offer opposition when we find it just.

        But don’t expect to win every fight. ~ Sometimes winning or losing is just a manner of perspective. ~ Think of it as “Lost dogs and mixed blessing”.

        Globalization , like Climate change is real ~ Something to deal with ~ as rising water floats all boat. ~ for some to have more, others will have less.

        Those childhood memories of Mayberry and Aunt Bee’s apple pie are of yesterday and won’t be returning in our lifetime. We have the fond memory, ~ what more might we hope for? ~ Tomorrow’s children would reject our Mayberry, it having been replaced by something else. They will never miss it.

      • Bob666

        Yo Darwin,
        Let me repeat this again, Take big money out of politics and “We the Prople” will stand a chance. Money is power and power rules!

      • APN

        RBT said: He will, no doubt, get much support for his “views” from the mindless today, and they too will go very far afield as they ignore reality.

        Once again, a “School teacher”, alias the self-appointed WORLDS GREATEST GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTIST” asserts himself as the expert on “Reality”?

        LMAO!

        APN

      • Right Brain Thinker

        APN insists on following me around and proving his mindlessness to all with his ongoing personal attacks. Ho-hum. Yes, APN, but I don’t need to assert my superior knowledge on global warming or my superior grasp on reality (as compared to you and Frank), because it is one of those things the lawyers call “self-evident” like “the sky is blue”, and it’s not worth arguing about. Enjoy your delusional LMAO’s, because others are also laughing at every post you make—-laughing AT YOU. Or is that your motivation? Are you the class clown that would rather be laughed at than ignored?

        I once had a kid like you in a biology class who was always making stupid remarks. I said to him one day “You know, Dave, you do pretty well on tests so I know you’re not stupid. I really can’t understand why you want everyone to believe that you are stupid. Why don’t you use that brain to make real contributions in class? And think up a really funny joke every once in a while and share it with us—-we’ll laugh—-just stop making dumb comments five times in every class period”. He got quiet and was quiet for a couple of days. When he next put up his hand, I called on him and he said with a straight face, “I’ve been thinking about what you said and I’m not going to be stupid anymore”, at which point the class cracked up. I said, “Great Dave, I know you are not stupid anyway and I’m looking forward to the “new” Dave”, and went back to the lesson. From that day forward, Dave was a joy to have in class, had a good sense of humor that he showed once a week with a good joke, and started to get better grades. Talking to his other teachers, we all saw the “new” Dave, and he made the honor roll next quarter. Since he was hearing much the same from all his teachers (and counselor and parents), I don’t take sole credit for his turnaround, but I DO feel good that he reached his “tipping point” in my class.

        Can you do a “turnaround”, APN?

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        I look forward to the day ~ APN’s browser fails to work as it has in the past.

        It’s not my call but ~ I give APN a down vote for failing to add anything constructive to a thread and constant personal “Flaming”.

    • jopa

      BobHi;All you have to do is google” Reagan and Greenspan” and you will see exactly how they were able to raid Social Security and rip off the Seniors of trillions.Ron Reagan was a bad bad man and a mediocre cowboy.

      • APN

        HAHAHA!!!! RR was the BEST President of MY lifetime to date! How old are you??

        10, 20, 30????

        If you had lived through the disaster of Jimmy Carter’s Presidency, AS I DID, well, you would clearly understand just how FOOLISH of a statement that is!

        APN

      • Uknowho

        APN,

        I lived through both presidents too… Reagan was garbage… Carter was a bad politician. The right’s complete whitewashing of what Reagan did and didn’t do is an amazing PR job. Just does not have much to do with reality.

      • jopa

        APN: I will be 64 this year and how old are you sonny boy??

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        And I will be 65 in 3 days. ~ Seems we both “lived thu” Eisenhower and part of Truman.
        Jopa you and I were both in the 1st grade when the 1st nuclear submarine, the USS Nautilus was commission and sent to sea, 1955.

        APN you are a pup here. Control your tongue and you might learn something.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        How Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan Pulled off the Greatest Fraud Ever Perpetrated against the American People
        by Allen W. Smith / April 14th, 2010

        As Newsweek magazine put it in its March 2, 1981 issue, “Reagan thus gambled the future — his own, his party’s, and in some measure the nation’s—on a perilous and largely untested new course called supply-side economics.”

        Essentially, Reagan switched the federal government from what he critically called, a “tax and spend” policy, to a “borrow and spend” policy, where the government continued its heavy spending, but used borrowed money instead of tax revenue to pay the bills. The results were catastrophic. Although it had taken the United States more than 200 years to accumulate the first $1 trillion of national debt, it took only five years under Reagan to add the second one trillion dollars to the debt. By the end of the 12 years of the Reagan-Bush administrations, the national debt had quadrupled to $4 trillion!

        Ronald Reagan and Alan Greenspan pulled off one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated against the American people in the history of this great nation, and the underlying scam is still alive and well, more than a quarter century later. It represents the very foundation upon which the economic malpractice that led the nation to the great economic collapse of 2008 was built. Ronald Reagan was a cunning politician, but he didn’t know much about economics. Alan Greenspan was an economist, who had no reluctance to work with a politician on a plan that would further the cause of the right-wing goals that both he and President Reagan shared.

        Both Reagan and Greenspan saw big government as an evil, and they saw big business as a virtue. They both had despised the progressive policies of Roosevelt, Kennedy and Johnson, and they wanted to turn back the pages of time. They came up with the perfect strategy for the redistribution of income and wealth from the working class to the rich.

        If Reagan had campaigned for the presidency by promising big tax cuts for the rich and pledging to make up for the lost revenue by imposing substantial tax increases on the working class, he would probably not have been elected. But that is exactly what Reagan did, with the help of Alan Greenspan. Consider the following sequence of events:

        1) President Reagan appointed Greenspan as chairman of the 1982 National Commission on Social Security Reform (aka The Greenspan Commission)

        2) The Greenspan Commission recommended a major payroll tax hike to generate Social Security surpluses for the next 30 years, in order to build up a large reserve in the trust fund that could be drawn down during the years after Social Security began running deficits.

        3) The 1983 Social Security amendments enacted hefty increases in the payroll tax in order to generate large future surpluses.

        4) As soon as the first surpluses began to role in, in 1985, the money was put into the general revenue fund and spent on other government programs. None of the surplus was saved or invested in anything. The surplus Social Security revenue, that was paid by working Americans, was used to replace the lost revenue from Reagan’s big income tax cuts that went primarily to the rich.

        5) In 1987, President Reagan nominated Greenspan as the successor to Paul Volker as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board. Greenspan continued as Fed Chairman until January 31, 2006. (One can only speculate on whether the coveted Fed Chairmanship represented, at least in part, a payback for Greenspan’s role in initiating the Social Security surplus revenue.)

        6) In 1990, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, a member of the Greenspan Commission, and one of the strongest advocates the the 1983 legislation, became outraged when he learned that first Reagan, and then President George H.W. Bush used the surplus Social Security revenue to pay for other government programs instead of saving and investing it for the baby boomers. Moynihan locked horns with President Bush and proposed repealing the 1983 payroll tax hike. Moynihan’s view was that if the government could not keep its hands out of the Social Security cookie jar, the cookie jar should be emptied, so there would be no surplus Social Security revenue for the government to loot. President Bush would have no part of repealing the payroll tax hike. The “read-my-lips-no-new-taxes” president was not about to give up his huge slush fund.

        The practice of using every dollar of the surplus Social Security revenue for general government spending continues to this day. The 1983 payroll tax hike has generated approximately $2.5 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue which is supposed to be in the trust fund for use in paying for the retirement benefits of the baby boomers. But the trust fund is empty! It contains no real assets. As a result, the government will soon be unable to pay full benefits without a tax increase. Money can be spent or it can be saved. But you can’t do both. Absolutely none of the $2.5 trillion was saved or invested in anything. I have been laboring for more than a decade to expose the great Social Security scam. For more information, please visit my website or contact me.

        Dr. Allen W. Smith is a Professor of Economics, Emeritus, at Eastern Illinois University. He is the author of seven books and has been researching and writing about Social Security financing for the past ten years. Read other articles by Allen, or visit Allen’s website.
        - See more at: http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/how-ronald-reagan-and-alan-greenspan-pulled-off-the-greatest-fraud-ever-perpetrated-against-the-american-people/#sthash.LbZWoIC4.dpuf

  • Doc Sarvis

    Wow. And anyone who brings up the President prior to President Obama on this site is chastised for going too far back in history. I guess if you have to go that far back in history to come up with a story you are really desperate.
    Certainly, many don’t think much of Carter and will call him the worst President in history. Practically every President holds that “honor” with some subset of our population. Why even “he who’s name must not be spoken here” who held the office prior to President Obama has his detractors. Perhaps it is because he didn’t read his Presidential Daily Briefing and let the worst attack on American civilians occur on 9/11/01, or threw our country into a false war killing thousands and maiming thousands more of our brave fighters (killing and maiming 100s of thousands of others) while not paying for the war, diverting resources for that war while starting another war (Afghanistan), AND wrecking the economy (with some help from others). Even the worst of Carter’s acts don’t come close to that distinction.
    Mr. Root; once again, in your first paragraph (first sentence this time) you shoot your credibility in the foot.
    As for Romney being the savior you so wished for, many conservatives on this very site acknowledge he was little different from President Obama. I mostly agree with that assessment though I know that Romney would have made life even more comfortable for the rich and difficult for the poor and middle class (see the referenced 47% tape). They even shared the same health care ideals. Romney did have the same NeoCon advisors that President “he who’s name must not be spoken here” had so that would have hurt us.
    Fortunately, most thinking Americans voted to have the leadership of President Obama for another four years.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Why can’t we just say it?
      BUSH BUSH BUSH
      As you point out, a far better candidate for “worst president” than Carter or O’Bama.

    • Dave67

      Doc and RBT,

      GWB never existed to these people… To these people, we went from Clinton and right into Obama. He is persona non-grata with the delusional here…Same with the GOP dominated Congress from 1994-2006… Everything wrong is all liberals/Democrats doing and these people believe liberals and Democrats are one in the same.

      9-11 was Clinton’s fault
      Tax cuts while engaging in 2 wars had no impact on our deficit.
      The Katrina response debacle was all the fault of the Democratic mayor of NO
      The Patriot Act just appeared one day…
      3000 People dying on 9-11 was horrible but what happened in Bengazi was the worst act imaginable and even though there has been hearing after hearing and people like Graham and McCain got the answers to their questions (when they bothered to show up for the hearings) its not enough!!
      Saddam was somehow responsible for 9-11, They know it somehow… They just don’t how they know it (Bush, in the lead up to the Iraq war, mentioning Saddam everytime he mentioned Bin Laden or 9/11 had no impact)

      Conservatives suffer from a disease called conservatism… where you have selective memory, have no ability to understand history or cause and effect. One of the most obvious symptoms is a serious lack of mathematical ability.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        I keep touting the book, The Republican Brain, by Chris Mooney. Has anyone who visits PLD read it besides me? It explains the “disease” of the conservative brain very well. And no bones about it, although there ARE good things about the conservative mind, it is dysfunctional in its present “mindlessly adhere to ideology in the face of fact” state.

      • APN

        ….and is this more of your “Science” RBT???

        Sick pup!

        APN

      • Right Brain Thinker

        APN says:
        “….and is this more of your “Science” RBT??? Sick pup!”

        Yes it is, APN—-science, something you seem to deny. Fool!

    • Bob666

      Whats up Doc!
      Yes, Carter was bad-no doubt, But Bush left his indelible mark on history. Right now there is a race to the bottom between Obama and Bush and I believe unlike his skill at war, Bush will win this contest.

      • APN

        …and that is the first thing that 666 has stated in a long while that I agree with…

        ODUMBO will win, trust me!

        APN

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        You can’t be trusted with a stick of gum APN.

  • Motov

    Obozo’s first term was more like spend and spend, and now the tax hikes. His lies will only get worse. “Recession” will be “Depression” as Obozo plans to make Roosevelt look like a Saint by the time he is out of office. I just hope the sheeple wake up to this threat of socialism gone awry.

    • eddie47d

      I just finished up looking at several polls on the Web about worst and best Presidents. NOWHERE was Carter listed as the worst so who is fooling whom? Reagan wasn’t the best President either although he did rank #3 in one poll. G Bush was listed as worse than Carter. One poll showed both Republicans and Democrats having Lincoln as the best President and F Roosevelt and G Washington were always in the top 10. I think some of you need to troll the Internet more closely and find out the real facts instead of believing the usual smear.

      • MNIce

        Jimmy Carter was consistently ranked among the worst presidents until Mr. Obama came along. Two things have changed that. One is historical revisionism by Democrat propaganda artists. The other is the obvious arrogance, corruption and incompetence of the present administration – it has lowered the standard for the Presidency so much as to make the entire Federal government an object of contempt, fear and loathing.

      • eddie47d

        Do you care if Wayne tells the truth or not? Carter isn’t listed anywhere as the worst President as he states! Carter was weak on more than one front but he is still more honest than you know who!

      • Bob666

        Yo Eddie 47,
        Carter was not an effective leader, but I also must admit that Carter was one of the most honest men ever to win the Whitehouse and his life after the presidency has been 100% up standing.

        From an economic point of view, Carter’s years were painfull, but that pain stopped soon after Regan was elected. Unfortunately, The “W” years will be the gift that keeps on giving for years to come and would be regardless of who won the election in 2008.

      • APN

        Eddiedumbo said : I think some of you need to troll the Internet more closely and find out the real facts instead of believing the usual smear.”

        Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me Eddie. Let me get this straight, if the “Internet” says it, well heck, It must be TRUE!!!

        Let me see here, I just visited a website that said “EDDIEDUMBO” is a genius, in fact, if you ask him, he is a rocket scientist , just like RBT, who specializes in “Jobal” Warming from teaching a science class in High school!!

        Well heck, IT MUST BE TRUE! No way around it, if the “Internet” says so.

        LMAO!

        APN

      • Nick Czudy

        APN.
        If what I think you are saying is that what Eddie 47 is wrong to use the internet to find out the facts is ridiculous. Then are you saying that if you say something or Wayne Allan Root says something from your partisan viewpoints, that the masses should listen to you or Wayne as being factual. Wayne has been found to be wrong much more often then he has been right prior to the election. Nothing personal Wayne. But you expend a lot of hot air that is pure bull.

        One of the best advances in the world in the last decade is search engines like Google and Bing to be able to search the world instantly for articles, facts and stories to be able to get facts and the truth. You will find many parisan stories searching the web but you will also find a lot of real, unbiased facts as well. That is the skill you need, Is use the great search engines to find out the facts. They are all there.

        If a source of information, that was not political, or partisan, does a study and gives a report, then being able to find it on the internet is the sane and rational thing to do. That is the best way for us to backup our statements and opinions.

        I do not understand how you can ridicule Eddie 47 for using the internet to find out facts.
        That is something that more of the right wing bloggers here need to do.
        I think that what I have seen, since arriving at this site is that when one side, that is politically motivated, says something that may not be true or factual, that the followers repeat those same theories without vetting the facts.
        There is a lot of that going on.
        I did not search out this site to disagree with its viewpoints. But its spam invaded my mailbox to invite me here. So I am here and I do not always agree with what is being said here. In fact Wayne Allen Roots discourse here is more like someone that is high on marijuana, then a sane and rational opinion. Luckily there are members of this site, that will question and debate what is being said.
        We need you to do that as well and back up your words with facts. We all do not live under the Right Wing bubble and so do not take it as gospel, just because it has been said here.
        You need to do the same.

  • http://rice4us@verizon.net Walter Agard

    all presidents make mistakes sometime or the other they are humans like any of us .What about Bush. He causes the situation we are in today.Many of you dont want to admit it and I thaught that ha was the worst president .No boby don’t hate him for that. It was his decision as president .

    • Robert Smith

      What Mr. Root failed to mention was the secret mind control from the new world order that forced Romney to say what he did about the 47%.

      Shoot the messenger rather than the source of the comments.

      One of the few times Romney was honest during his run for President and you want to blame Carter for it.

      That sure looks twisted to me.

      Rob

      • APN

        Robert, just how old were you during Carter’s Presidency?

        I’ve lived as a young man through the mire and the muck of his progressive lunacy. He was the biggest NOTHING that has ever held the office of the POTUS, prior to Obama.

        Explain it!

        APN

      • Robert Smith

        Doesn’t change the FACT that Romney was dismissive of 47% of America.

        We need a president that represents ALL Americans. Carter did that when he was president, and Obama is trying to do that now.

        Rob

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Robert Smith says , “We need a president that represents ALL Americans. Carter did that when he was president, and Obama is trying to do that now”

        I say, excellent summation Mr. Smith. And for anyone that sees it any other way, ~ I will be forever in their eyes like onions.

        Liberty and justice for all ~ or none. ~ It’s something to “aspire too” and what being an American is all about.

        As I child, You and I repeated it over and over again until we believed it as being a way to think , ~ a way to believe, or did we not?

  • http://www.chandostransportsolutions.com GraemeB

    And of course Britain had interest rates of 28% which was caused by Carter. And West Germany went into deficit for the first time post war, because of Carter. The price of oil had nothing to do with Carter but with OPEC, just as it has nothing to do with Obama now. It is called supply and demand. Reagan came into government just as the rest of the world was rebounding from the recession of 1978-81. Reagan reversed his trickle down tax policies by increasing taxes in his second term. The trickle down tax policy does not work anymore than it does now.
    I think a Romney presidency would have been an unmitigated disaster as I don’t think he would have known what to do.

  • E Gabris

    The 47% reflected the true Romney and the voters respond accordingly. Add to this the self-deportation comment and the Republican efforts to restrict voting by minorities and the cause of the result of the election was clear. The stupid comments on rape did not help either.

  • Butch

    Did I hear Wayne correctly? “A brilliant businessman and turnaround specialist, Romney was the perfect man to again save America. He would have turned around this Obamageddon economy in two years with low taxes, reduced spending and smaller government …” Romney was “perfect”??? He was a flip flopping RINO that NO ONE that wasn’t a neo-con, wanted. You could make a mix tape of him stating his adherence to BOTH sides of any issue, maybe even worse than Obumma. He said he would have supported the NDAA. He agreed w/ Obumma on virtually every talking point that mattered. Wayne, you need to resign or at least stop calling yrself a Libertarian or just call yrself a LINO. Ron Paul was the perfect candidate to turn America around, we’re just too stupid as a nation to choose what’s best for us. After all, we re-elected a Kenyan usurper fraud TWICE. I know, Obumma cheated but Robney and the hopelessly corrupt GOP robbed Ron Paul repeatedly so its impossible for me to feel sorry for Bankster puppet Robmey. Now America’s dying a slow agonizing death, because that’s what America chose.

  • eddie47d

    So much desperation here! The only person at fault over that 47% remark is Mitt Romney. It wasn’t edited to make Mitt look bad it was his own words or don’t Republicans take responsibility for what they say.

    • APN

      No more so than the Dems Eddie…….. Get it?

      APN

  • Harold Olsen

    I hated Jimmy Carter. He was a terrible president. When he was in office, I was still a Democrat and I did not vote for him. Romney’s comments, whille probably true, were rather stupid. Politicians, especially one running for president, should use discretion in what they say. There is always someone out to get something on them. They should always assume that anything they say is probably being recorded. What was actually funny about his 47% comment was that the “fact-finders” on one of the news channels (I think CNN) said that Romney lied. It was not 47% but only 46.4%. In any case, if Romney had been elected, I doubt that things would have been much better than they are now. I considered Romney to be little more than an Obama clone and even received a couple of death threats on Twitter from some of his followers for saying that. Just the thing I’d expect from liberals. and Romney is a liberal so were most of his supporters.

    • Warrior

      In retrospect, obviously the wrong brother was voted in. By now, “billy beer” would be challenging “Bud” as the “king of beers”.

      • Bob666

        Yo Warrior,
        tried Billy Beer once since it was on sale at the “Big Star”, trust me, Budweiser had nothing to worry about!

    • RivahMitch

      Actually, Carter has been redeemed by the Kenyan fascist (sort of). He’ll no longer go down as the worst president in American history because the mulatto Mussolini has claimed that distinction.

      • eddie47d

        Biased much Rivah? Obama’s first term has been evaluated and even he is not considered the worst and as I said earlier Carter is nowhere near the worst either. Look up the facts,polls,lists and see for yourself instead of being a sheeple about everything that is said around here. Almost all polls list Taylor,Hoover,Nixon,Harrison,Grant, Tyler, Fillmore ,Pierce ,A Johnson,Harding and Buchanan as the worst.

      • Don 2

        But, Jimmy Carter will go down in history as the manly man president, who fled from a “killer rabbit”

      • Dave67

        Don 2,

        Carter served his country on submarines… Reagan made promo films for the Army.

        Amazing what you find out when you actually look at the two men and actually what they “did”.

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Harold Romneys comments were not true. He equated paying no Federal Income Tax with being lazy and not taking responsibility. Forgetting that among the list of Americans who pay no federal income there are people no right thinking person would call lazy and lacking personal responsibility.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Couple of things

    1: Carter cannot be blamed for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    2: Carter is the reason the hostages were released. Iran chose to wait till Reagan was inaugurated.

    3: There is a reason Romneys comment did so much damage. He labelled nearly half the country lazy and unwilling to take personal responsibility. And he included in that group military veterans, the elderly and the working poor. Romney destroyed himself. He needed no help from Carter. Romney was no Reagan.

    4: Yes how dare Obama care about things like “compassion, fairness, social justice, and human rights”.

    5: Mr. Root you do realize that the term “American exceptionalism” was created by Joseph Stalin. And if America is so exceptional why do you fear for her so much.

    • Vicki

      “In Marxism

      In June 1927 Jay Lovestone, a leader of the Communist Party in America and soon to be named General Secretary, described America’s economic and social uniqueness. He noted the increasing strength of American capitalism, and the country’s “tremendous reserve power”; a strength and power which he said prevented Communist revolution.[23] In 1929, the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, disagreeing that America was so resistant to revolution, called Lovestone’s ideas “the heresy of American exceptionalism”[24]”

      That Stain was disapproving of American exceptionalism is enough reason alone for us to embrace the term. The concept predates Stalin by many many years
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

      • JWZ!@#$890

        You go girl

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yep, Vicki loves the mention of Joseph Stalin becuase it allows her to go off on one of her obfuscatory and distractatory sentence exercises. And, as I predicted, one of the mindless actually gives her a “you go girl”.

        Something I posted on another thread bears repeating here. Yes, America IS “exceptional” in many ways, some of them listed in this piece.

        AMONG INDUSTRIALIZED NATIONS, THE UNITED STATES HAS THE

        *highest poverty rate, both generally and for children
        *greatest inequality of incomes
        *lowest government spending as a percentage of GDP on social programs for the disadvantaged
        *lowest average number of days for paid holidays, annual leaves, and maternity leaves
        *lowest score on the United Nations index of “material well being of children”
        *worst score on the United Nations gender inequality index
        *lowest social mobility
        *highest public and private expenditure on health care as a percentage of GDP

        THESE TRENDS ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THE

        *highest infant mortality rate
        *highest prevalance of mental health problems
        *highest obesity rate
        *highest proportion of population going without health care due to cost
        *second lowest birth-weight for children per capita, behind only Japan
        *highest consumption of anti-depressants per capita
        *third shortest life expectancy behind only Denmark and Portugal
        *highest carbon dioxide emissions and water consumption per capita
        *second lowest score on the World Economic Forum’s environmental performance index, behind only Belgium
        *third-largest ecological footprint per capita, behind only Belgium and Denmark
        *highest rate of failure to ratify international agreements
        *lowest sppending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of GDP
        *highest military spending as a percentage of GDP
        *largest international arms sales
        *fourth worst balance of payments, behind only New Zealand, Spain, and Portugal
        *third lowest scores for student performance in math, behind only Portugal and Italy, and far behnd the top in science and reading
        *second highest high-school dropout rate behind only Spain
        *highest homicide rate
        *largest prison population per capita

        These deplorable consequences did not just happen as the result of economic and technological forces over which we have no control. They are the results of conscious political decisions made over several decades by both Democrats and Republicans who have had priorities other than strengthening the well-being of American society and our environment. Many countries, notably in Europe, took a different path, one that was open to us also. America may have invented the middle class, but while others improved on our grand idea, we let it slip away.

        James Gustave Speth, “We’re Number One”, Yes Magazine, March 22, 2011
        http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/on-american-superiority

      • nc

        Vicki, 1927 and America is wide open and running under unbridled markets! 1929 the bubble burst under Hoover and the economy goes to it’s knees! (SEE PICTURES OF SOUP KITCHENS AND APPLE SELLERS) !! !932 and in comes the biggest “socialist” in our history compared to the past Presidents! 1945, AFTER 12 YEARS OF THE “SOCIALIST” AND HIS POLICIES WE WERE THE NUMBER ONE NATION IN THE WORLD!!
        Could it possibly have been that the policies that the moss back CONSERVATIVE Republicans, then and now, call “socialism” were the policies that were needed to bring US back from soup kitchens and apple CARTS? You know, why the founding fathers said they were forming a “more perfect union” TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE( OF THE NATION) AND THE GENERAL WELFARE SURE AS HELL NEEDED SOME PROMOTING DURING THAT PERIOD! Times were so hard the Mississippi River did not run but 3 days a week and most businesses were not dong that well.

        We are still NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD and have never had a true conservative President! That’s a pretty good argument for never needing one!

        PS: If you and Mr. Livingston are not embarrassed by Mr. Root’s insane rants then I am embarrassed for you and Mr. Livingston!

      • Dave67

        RBT,

        Your list will show the difference between a conservative and a liberal.

        A Conservative will use that list and say you hate America

        A Liberal will see that list as a challenge to make our country better.

        Too bad the Conservatives here will never get it.

      • Vigilant

        RBT, there are a number of difficulties with that list, or should I characterize it as a screed?

        First, consider the source.

        Yes! Magazines list board members and contributing editors reads like a Who’s Who of globalism, environmentalism and socialism.

        Interesting that you can hit the “subscribe” button as part of an ad on that site below the image of Van Jones saying “YES! Magazine is the most important publication in the US.”

        (http://www.yesmagazine.org/new-economy)

        That’s right. Van Jones, admitted communist.

        Second, the list assumes that globalist and social collectivist philosophies are the only way to go. Using the UN as a source is suspect to begin with.

        Playing with statistics is another (intended) fault. For example, “lowest government spending as a percentage of GDP on social programs for the disadvantaged” is a loaded statistic, belied by the fact that a whopping 62% of our annual budgets are devoted to social welfare as compared to less than 20% for military expenditure.

        Take also, “highest rate of failure to ratify international agreements.” Given the UN’s devotion to making the world one big socialist utopia through such agreements, I’d say that’s an admirable statistic. Of course, that’s a thorn in the side of the communists who would prefer the US give up its sovereignty (and Constitution) in favor of the misery that inevitably results from statist governments.

        Then we have, “lowest spending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of GDP.” I would challenge that prevarication to its face. The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend.

        Or perhaps, “lowest average number of days for paid holidays, annual leaves, and maternity leaves.” A more fitting call would have been “workers of the world, unite!” Such palaver bears witness to the bankrupt nature of socialism. We’ve seen the results of the hedonistic demands of labor unions in Europe in such places as Greece and France. And, glory be, someone failed to note that the relative laziness of European workers has given their countries chronically low GDP growth.

        I could go on. Suffice it to say that, while some statistics are valid on that long list, the lack of integrity and the political predispositions of the list builder make that list suspect from the outset.

        P.S. “Distractatory” is not a word, Mr. Administrator.

      • http://personalliberty 300 win. mag

        RBT, let’s blame the US for everything, it is such a bad place. Why are you still here and not in your beloved Europe? Most of what you stated is the fault of the parents not teaching their kids right from wrong, helping them to learn and giving them some sort of work ethic. Now they expect the government to give them everything. It is sad that we now demonize CEO’s, we should teach our children that one day they can become one. It sad that if someone works hard and gets ahead they are demonized. It is sad that we have a President flying around demonizing people for getting ahead, instead of trying to elevate all people to greatness. He should bring us together, not dividing us by income, race and age.

      • Vigilant

        “Could it possibly have been that the policies that the moss back CONSERVATIVE Republicans, then and now, call “socialism” were the policies that were needed to bring US back from soup kitchens and apple CARTS?”

        nc loves to perpetuate the stupidest of myths, but that’s nothing new for socialists and statists (one and the same).

        You’re wrong on TWO counts. (1) It was WWII and ONLY WWII that brought us out of the Depression, and (2) economists recognize that FDR’s socialist policies both lengthened and deepened the Depression.

        Not to forget, the Supreme Court ruled most of FDR’s socialistic programs as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vigilant takes umbrage at “the list” and talks of “difficulties”?

        First, let’s deal with his “P.S. “Distractatory” is not a word, Mr. Administrator”, because it has a direct relationship to the “difficulties” Vigilant has demonstrated in this comment. .

        It most certainly IS a word, Vigilant, along with evasivatory, obfuscatory, and one other one that slips my old and tired mind. I made the four of them up in response to that little “lesson” Vicki gave us a while back about the four types of sentences. They have roots that should be easily recognizable, I have used them a number of times, and they are FAR more valid than many of the trash words that are used by the mindless on this site. You are welcome to use them any time they suit your needs.

        There are a number of difficulties with Vigilant’s “screed”, the first and foremost that he has failed to see the forest for the trees. He has ignored the basic point behind the list and run into the forest to madly whack at a few of the trees.

        “Consider the source”, he says? Consider the implications of the CONTENTS of the article, I say in return. And none of it is news. Each of the things mentioned has been reported on extensively by a number of sources, both left and right. Why doesn’t Vigilant comment on the thoughts in the closing paragaph?

        “Yes! Magazines list board members and contributing editors reads like a Who’s Who of globalism, environmentalism and socialism”. And this is a surprise? What do the mastheads of conservative magazines read like?

        “Second, the list assumes that globalist and social collectivist philosophies are the only way to go. Using the UN as a source is suspect to begin with”. That’s opinion only there. Vigilant should access and read the whole article before he makes such assertions. (and try to do it with an open mind)

        Vigilant warms up on his frenzied chopping of a few trees with the old “Playing with statistics” complaint, and segues over into the “we will lose our sovereignty” horsepucky (with nice dollops of “Constitution”, the UN, and “statism”—meaningless but apparently obligatory)

        Vigilant really gets up on his soapbox with, “The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend”.
        Yes, the “generosity” of “the American People and government” needs to be reworked just a bit, perhaps? As in addressing these things here at home?

        *highest poverty rate, both generally and for children
        *greatest inequality of incomes
        *lowest score on the United Nations index of “material well being of children”
        *worst score on the United Nations gender inequality index
        *lowest social mobility
        *highest infant mortality rate
        *highest prevalence of mental health problems
        *highest obesity rate
        *highest proportion of population going without health care due to cost
        *second lowest birth-weight for children per capita, behind only Japan
        *highest consumption of anti-depressants per capita
        *third shortest life expectancy behind only Denmark and Portugal
        *highest carbon dioxide emissions and water consumption per capita
        *third-largest ecological footprint per capita, behind only Belgium and Denmark
        *third lowest scores for student performance in math, behind only Portugal and Italy, and far behind the top in science and reading
        *second highest high-school dropout rate behind only Spain
        *highest homicide rate
        *largest prison population per capita

        Vigilant again swings his axe without careful aim. “workers of the world, unite!”? Vigilant must be a member of the plutocracy and/or corporate oligarchy who wants to subjugate the worker and turn this country into a feudal state—he certainly talks like one when he says the worker’s desire to share in the wealth and prosperity of their labors makes the workers “hedonists” and “socialists”, and “lazy”. Don’t they have the same rights as the plutocracy to seek “happiness”?

        I’m sure Vigilant “could go on”—-too bad he didn’t do that. I would asks that all focus on what the “list” tells us about the country. Vigilant chose to attack it rather than do that, but of course his “political predispositions” have colored this comment from the outset.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        300 win. mag parrots the usual mindlessness with:

        Why are you still here and not in your beloved Europe?
        Most of what you stated is the fault of the parents
        Now they expect the government to give them everything
        It is sad that we now demonize CEO’s
        We have a President flying around demonizing people for getting ahead
        Dividing us by income, race and age.

        He has learned his lessons well and drained the last drop of Koolaid with all that.
        (PS—-didn’t Romney and the Repugs spend a billion dollars spouting this kind of stuff?)

        My favorite is “We should teach our children that one day they can become a member of the 1%, the greedy rich that are stealing from the 99%”. It’s sad that 300 winmag doesn’t see that is no longer true, that our children will be “lucky” if they don’t end up further down the ladder than us.

      • http://personalliberty 300 win. mag

        RBT, how are they stealing from us? Why do you think I drank all the the kool aid? All I am saying is we should be responsible for our selves. So that makes me evil? How so?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        My problem isn’t with American Exceptionalism Vicki. Its with those who claim America is so exceptional and then inexplicably go on and on about how in less than 5 years Obama has managed to destroy “the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth”. That’s what I don’t understand. How we can be so great and at the same time be so easily destroyed.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        300 win. mag, I said “you drank all the koolaid” because of how you are “burping” all the tired old “talking points” back to us, starting with the VERY tired “If you don’t like it here, leave” which is about as mindless comment as can be made. It appears all too often on PLD when people can’t make a real argument.

        I too think we should all be “responsible for ourselves”. What disturbs me is that the 1% are making it harder for that to occur. The “middle class dream” of “anyone can make it big” is disappearing in America because the 1% have rigged the game in their favor. They are accumulating wealth by denying opportunity to the 99%.

        This used to be a country in which everyone took some responsibility for everyone else’s well-being and happiness. The items on the “list” show that has changed, and most of them are due to our income and wealth inequality.

        Never said you’re “evil”. You don’t sound evil to me, just misguided—–you HAVE drunk too much koolaid.

      • Vicki

        Jeremy Leochner says:
        “My problem isn’t with American Exceptionalism Vicki. Its with those who claim America is so exceptional and then inexplicably go on and on about how in less than 5 years Obama has managed to destroy “the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth”. That’s what I don’t understand. How we can be so great and at the same time be so easily destroyed.”

        It’s not a bad question Jeremy. The answer is that the rot has been going on for MANY years. obama just happens to be helping it along too fast and it is waking up the sheep.

      • Vicki

        Vicki (me) says:
        “That Stain was disapproving of American exceptionalism is enough reason alone for us to embrace the term. The concept predates Stalin by many many years”

        Right Brain Thinker doesn’t and says:
        “Yep, Vicki loves the mention of Joseph Stalin becuase it allows her to go off on one of her obfuscatory and distractatory sentence exercises.”

        Let’s see….
        ———————————————-
        ob·fus·cate
        “1 a : darken
        b : to make obscure
        2 : confuse
        intransitive verb
        : to be evasive, unclear, or confusing
        ———————————————-

        Nope. My statement clarifies Jeremy’s attempt to ob·fus·cate stalin’s creation of the term to imply that because the term was created by a communist then the term must be bad.

        —————————————
        distractatory

        The word you’ve entered isn’t in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above.
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/distractatory
        —————————————

        Now why am I not surprised that RBT was making up words? Or maybe just can’t spell?

      • APN

        RBT said: And, as I predicted, one of the mindless actually gives her a “you go girl”.

        Once again, the mindless num-nuts asserts his superiority over us mere “Americans”.

        We get it RBT, you really don’t like “America”, well, BOY, I hate it for you, MOVE!!!!

        I’m sure that Hitler, Stalin or a Mao Tse-Tung like regime would be sure to place you at the HEAD of their “Let’s exterminate the mindless crowd” death squad.

        People like you are nothing more than a want-a-be bully but to cowardly to do the things you would really like to do to us “Simpletons”, in person.

        Bottom line RBT, hardening of the arteries is a bitch, isn’t it!

        APN

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I think its a good point Vicki. My only question is Where did it start?

      • Vicki

        Jeremy Leochner says:
        “I think its a good point Vicki. My only question is Where did it start?”

        1930′s FDR’s New Deal?

        Progressivism late 1800′s early 1900′s?

        War of Northern Aggression?

        So many choices.

        One of the reasons you KNOW that America is or was great is how long we lasted beyond what the founders expected.

      • Vigilant

        Pretty much as I figured: RBT’s umbrage over my citing him for a word that doesn’t exist in the English language would offend his natural right to speak in tongues. Should we all adopt Sanskrit as a mode of communication?

        Then, deliciously, “It most certainly IS a word, Vigilant, along with evasivatory, obfuscatory, and one other one that slips my old and tired mind.”

        No, RBT, sorry to burst your sociopathic bubble, but neither distractatory nor evasivatory is a word.

        Then, we see the basis of his claim that they are actual words: “I made the four of them up in response to that little “lesson” Vicki gave us a while back about the four types of sentences.”

        Alas, the truth comes out! YOU MADE THEM UP. A couple of points:

        (1) Do you think that makes you witty or cute?

        (2) Are you so arrogant as to believe that when you make up a word you are entitled to designate it as a word in anything other than a tongue-in-cheek fashion?

        And lastly, your Al Goresque claim that you made up the word “obfuscatory” is indeed an example of arrogance. Again, sorry to burst your bubble, but the word has been in use since before you were born. Of the words shown, it was NOT made up by you.

        But to lead off your diatribe with such an insignificant thing? You have a real knack for going after the capillary.

      • Vigilant

        RBT has been indeed schooled in the Alinsky art of “obfuscatory” language of diverting the subject. For example,

        “Vigilant really gets up on his soapbox with, “The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend”.
        Yes, the “generosity” of “the American People and government” needs to be reworked just a bit, perhaps? As in addressing these things here at home?”

        Tut, tut, Mr. school administrator, you may have been able to get away with that type of topic diversion when you were programming tender minds, but it doesn’t stand up to the “steely eyed” mature minds of the truly educated.

        Be so kind as to show us the logical connection between America’s (alleged but untrue) “lowest spending on international development and humanitarian assistance as a percentage of GDP” and its alleged lack of generosity “in addressing these things here at home.”

        Methinks your failure to undertake an argument on the basis of logic is a most eloquent demonstration of the serious failures in teaching our children the efficacy of pristine logic, and using facts to back up their arguments.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Vigilant,

        Careful now. RBT will accuse you changing the subject, getting off topic or avoiding the question.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vigilant fails to notice that I don’t “take umbrage” over much on PLD, that I concentrate on seeking truth and pointing out the untruths that others like Vigilant spout so casually.. He DOES, however, show that HE is an “umbrage taker” with these two back-to-back comments. Any logical thinker will reach that conclusion after reading them.

        In true Frank Kahn style, he persists in arguing “grammar” (once again failing to see the forest for the trees) and attacks me rather than addressing the CONTENT of the “list”.

        The words DO exist because you can see them on the screen in front of you, they ARE in English, and they DO have roots that can be easily interpreted. Like ALL words, they are “made up”. I think of one that seems to have made it into some dictionaries—-”ginormous”, an ugly word that is a hybrid of gigantic and enormous, to look at it. Is it a real word? Not to me and I’d never use it, but I recognize its meaning when I see it.

        Why does Vigilant waste our time with this argument? Is he trying to be “witty or cute”? Apparently not, because “sociopath” is rather vicious, over the top, and inappropriate here, although it certainly does illustrate that “umbrage” problem Vigilant has (and quite “deliciously”, too). I feel compelled to answer Vigilant’s viciousness to some extent—-such mindless anger and lack of focus should be noticed.

        Vigilant asks, “Are you so arrogant as to believe that when you make up a word you are entitled to designate it as a word in anything other than a tongue-in-cheek fashion?”
        Wasn’t I doing a “tongue in cheek” thing with Vicki when I first posted those words? And anyone who uses the English language is “entitled” to make whatever they wish with it—–words, ideas, arguments. What IS arrogant is the way many abuse the language (and the concepts of truth and honest debate) with the mindless horsepucky they post here on PLD.

        OH!—–tail wagging time! Vigilant has found a bone with “obfuscatory”. Still whacking at a tree in the forest that he has missed, but he is driven by that”umbrage” thing. I don’t recall the exact word I coined, but DO apologize for the major sin if I did in fact claim “obfuscatory”. Do you think that will invalidate everything else I have posted here?

        And which is this supposed to be, witty or cute? I vote cute, because it’s not very witty.
        “You have a real knack for going after the capillary”.

        And in his second comment, Vigilant, just can’t resist bringing in “Alinsky”, as Vigilant continues to “divert” us from the subject—–American exceptionalism. Much easier to attack me, of course, than address the substance of my comments. The mindless on PLD will say to him “You really told RBT! Excellent comments!!”, and Vigilant will feel good about what he has done and continue to wander in the forest..

        I said, and it bears repeating, Vigilant really gets up on his soapbox with, “The generosity of the American people and government during times of international tragedy are legend”.
        Yes, the “generosity” of “the American People and government” needs to be reworked just a bit, perhaps? As in addressing these things here at home?

        To which Vigilant replies, “Tut, tut, Mr. school administrator, you may have been able to get away with that type of topic diversion when you were programming tender minds, but it doesn’t stand up to the “steely eyed” mature minds of the truly educated”.
        Not sure whether he is trying for cute, witty, or tongue-in-cheek with “steely-eyed mature minds of the truly educated”—–some mixed metaphors there—–but it caused this truly educated, mature-minded person with “steely eyes” to chuckle. Having “steely eyes” is a very important thing for high school administrators—-can’t tell you how much time and how many words I saved by just laying “the look” on a bunch of students who were “walking the edge”. I learned “the look” from USMC DI’s.

        Vigilant would waste my time by having me look up things to “prove” my point. Sorry, Vig, but I have better things to do—–the way it works anyway is that YOU cite figures that show the U.S. is in fact NOT the lowest spender and that I have lied. Google around and you’ll get many hits, one of which I quote here,

        “Western nations can clearly afford to spend more to address the problems afflicting impoverished nations. Only the Scandinavian countries invest more than 1% of their gross domestic products (GDP) in foreign aid. The United States, Japan, Germany and the other leading economic powers spend proportionately much less. The United States spends only 0.12% of GDP — one-eighth of one percent — in overseas aid. Japan and Germany spend more, but not much more; only about 0.4% of GDP — four-tenths of one percent”
        (Note also that 0.4% is 3-1/3 times bigger than 0.12%, so we DO lag quite a bit behind there)

        “Be so kind as to show us how what I said is (alleged but untrue)”. Did Vigilant fail to notice that I left that item out of the list in the last comment anyway? I was hoping to get Vigilant to focus on the “at home” items on the list, or did he miss “As in addressing these things here at home?”

        Vigilant finishes with the typical “I said it so it must be true” logic of the PLD poster on the right, and just refuses to see the logic or fact in what I have said. Methinks his failure to undertake an argument on the basis of logic will be most evident to anyone who cares to really read our exchange.

        His two comments are the most eloquent demonstration of the serious failures in teaching our children logic and using facts to back up their arguments, since he is neither logical nor does he use any significant “facts” in them. (Or maybe he just didn’t pay attention and it’s his fault, not the school’s?)

        Focus on the problem, Vigilant—-the problem is not me—-reread the article, reread “the list”. Dust off some “pristine logic” for us and use it.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Bob Livingston says:

        “Dear Vigilant, Careful now. RBT will accuse you changing the subject, getting off topic or avoiding the question”.

        Hmmmmmm. I’m having trouble categorizing that comment as “witty”, “cute”, or “mindless”. I say “mindless” only because it looks to me that you have taken a small swipe at me without really reading our comments. It is true that I will accuse Vigilant of “all of the above”, because he IS guilty of doing exactly those things—he needs to be careful when he messes with the bull. And a careful rereading of our exchange will bear that out.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vicki (her) says nothing of importance, choosing to waste our time with a dik-shun-erry lesson and some more obfuscatoriness. Now why am I not surprised that she would do that? Or that Vicki is making up arguments? Or maybe she just can’t think?

        And APN says his usual angry and mindless stuff

        As if the ever-mindless “We get it RBT, you really don’t like “America”, well, BOY, I hate it for you, MOVE!!!!” is any kind of an argument. Old and tired, APN.

        And “Once again, the mindless num-nuts asserts his superiority over us mere “Americans”. No, not all “mere” Americans, APN, just guys like you and Frank.

        (rant) Hitler, Stalin or a Mao Tse-Tung like regime, (more rant) HEAD of their “Let’s exterminate the mindless crowd” death squad.

        (stupid attempt at an attack) “Bottom line RBT, hardening of the arteries is a bitch, isn’t it!”

        Why can’t APN find something intelligent to say rather than waste what little reasoning ability he has on attacking me?

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker says:
        “Vicki (her) says nothing of importance, choosing to waste our time… ”

        Which you seem to have been quite happy to do since you read it :) .

        - RBT: “Now why am I not surprised that she would do that? Or that Vicki is making up arguments? Or maybe she just can’t think?”

        I’m Blonde. My ability to not think is legend. (Just read some of my other posts :) )

        - RBT: “(stupid attempt at an attack) “Bottom line RBT, hardening of the arteries is a bitch, isn’t it!” ”

        It was certainly more creative than the ad hominems the right brain has come up with.

        - RBT: “Why can’t APN find something intelligent to say rather than waste what little reasoning ability he has on attacking me?”

        Have you considered taking your own sage advice?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vicki says:

        “I’m Blonde. My ability to not think is legend. (Just read some of my other posts”)
        That’s funny—have you seen the YouTube clip, “the Girls of Fox News”? You should look at it—-it might explain why the “men” are so hot to watch Faux. (or are you one of the “girls of Fox” yourself?)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNj0T4uK3lE

        And “hardening of the arteries is a bitch” is “creative”? C’mon, Vicki—-you can’t expect us to believe you really think that’s creative? Or are you just supporting the new troll in the next cubicle at “SHILLS-N-TROLLS-R-US”—APN?—-DaveH’s replacement? Maybe he’ll reward you by buying you a coke or sharing his barrel of Cheetos with you)

        And, Vicki, I always take my own sage advice—-haven’t you noticed?

        ~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW!!

      • Bob666

        Yo RBT,
        “~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW”!!

        Now that was funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yo devil#Bob,

        “~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW”!!

        Now that was funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Hope so—-made me chuckle when I typed it. I sure hope Vicki finds it to be just a bit “creative”. I live for her approval, you know. (Have you looked at the “Girls of Fox News” YouTube clip yet? It’s worth watching).

      • Bob666

        Yo RBT,
        I see that you still have that sexual tension going on with Jana & Vicki!

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker doesn’t and says:
        “~314.9999 MILLION AMERICANS haven’t come near PLD today.
        STOP PUNISHING THOSE OF US THAT DO!
        STOP IT NOW!!”

        That’s the beauty of free will RBT. No one is forcing you to stay are and take the “punishment”. Whereas the

        ~300 MILLION Americans who DIDN’T SHOOT ANYONE don’t get the choice

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a very few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW.

        Oh and thanks for helping to bring attention to this self evident truth.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Say goodnight, Vicki. Today’s Laugh In Show has ended.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        “(And knock off that “sexual tension” crap, especially with Jana. I don’t want to be accused by her of doing anything “improper”.)”

        Agreed! Elevate our conversation gentlemen, ~ Strong minds and sound thinking does not have a penis. Ayn Rand was as tough as a nickle steak and gifted with a steel trap for a mind.

        Give credit where credit is due and offer the greatest of respect to thoughtful commentary, it will only enrich your life and you to stand taller than you stood before.

        I guess that you know, some languages are predicated on gender. The cultures that speak such languages seem to all fall in the category of “The Little Train that couldn’t” yet come so close.

        I’m not for certain what that all might mean, ~ but a good idea, is a good idea and not predicated on who presents it.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        deer says, “Elevate our conversation gentlemen, offer the greatest of respect to thoughtful commentary, a good idea is a good idea and not predicated on who presents it”

        I agree. Too bad we don’t have more “good ideas” and “thoughtful commentary” being posted on PLD.

      • Bob666

        Yo Deer & RBT,
        We should and I am as guilty as any, but I will also say that when I respond, I do so in kind because I was taught to never let a bully have control. If I had a dollar for eveytime I have seen a post to me that started out with name calling, I would be a far more wealthy man.

        But Deer is correct, I need to be the better man and based on many of the post that I read, that should not be difficult.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Bob666 says, “When I respond, I do so in kind because I was taught to never let a bully have control. If I had a dollar for every time I have seen a post to me that started out with name calling, I would be a far more wealthy man”. My sentiments exactly—My concept of “in kind” is to hit the fools with three times as much fact, twice as much logic and much more subtle and elegant “name calling” than they employ. One must sometimes lay an outright “anal orifice” on someone, but that can usually be avoided.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Those without sin , cast the first stone.

        We know how they work, ~ direct the conservation away from the topic by whatever means.

        Seek high ground is all I can tell you. ~ They don’t enjoy discussion the GOP track record. ~ or the fact that a libertarian government can be found only in a two or three isolated small nations scattered about the globe today. The only way it would possibly work on a large population ~ is to install local ” enforcers” ~ much like the Taliban. That would sure be a lot of “Enforcers” to come up with!

        They are attempting to reinvent themselves to be seen as pure and clean as freshly fallen white snow. They fell from the sky, full grown, owing no one nothing and demanding their “rights” as they are attempting to take away yours for some moral principal that supersedes the living in defense of the unborn.

        They wish to take away organized labors voice from the bargaining table while Corporate buys it’s place at the table.

        They wish to restrict your one vote by restricting access to the polls and redistricting.

        They make claims of opposing the elite while they defend the elite at every opportunity.

        They wish to make government the enforcer of their own notions of Christianity by uniting church and state into one and passing legislation that restrict personal freedom.

        They wish to take over our school systems and install Creationism as a core study.

        Elevate the discourse ~ and hammer and hammer.

        The GOP has some very bright people that incite their dummy’s ~ They are sort of like Muslim suicide bombers. ~ They get their dummies all worked up with a head full of self righteous Holy Crap and Talking points ~ and send them out to reek havoc and disrupt.

        Beside a poor track record, the GOP main weak spot, ~is their dummies! They are an embarrassment! They misspeak under pressure and fevered anger.

        Just remember, your reaction is the only thing that you actually have any control of.

        Control yourself, ~ and entice them to reach beyond them limits. ~ and when they do ~ hammer them with politely delivered hard facts. Research your topics ~ Avoid open ended statement. Avoid speaking in absolutes.

        As for myself, ~ I attempt to stay based inside what I know ~ or at least feel comfortable with and look forward to be proven wrong.

        I just want the factual truth to be exposed , ~ land where it may ~ and be nice. They hate it when you are nice.

      • Nick Czudy

        Amen Deer In Water. That is only a short glimpse of what they are doing.

        The one point that really hits home is that there are a few smart people that are filling the heads of their minions with hate and lies and send them out to do their bidding.

        That is a good explanation of how they operate. The ones that follow blindly are just like the jihadists. They are not swift enough to understand what they are being told and they will repeat the talking points and lies without vetting the info.
        Their problem is that the rest of the population can see through this. So their base is small and shrinking.
        Deer, you have an eloquence with your words that I cannot match.
        Keep it up. haha. It is really pissing off the right winger managers.
        warm regards.
        Nick Cz

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

        Thank you Nick,

        Just an old dyslexic plumber here that learned long ago, ~ you got to serve somebody, ~ go slow, be sure and don’t bite your nails.

    • eddie47d

      “America’s military will decline” Conservatives have been saying that all my life. We still have overkill capabilities,troops in over half the countries in the world and we are the number one arms dealer in the world. Wayne must still have that losers fever thinking up all this trash talk. Ron Paul was sick of our disastrous foreign adventures and our misuse of military resources. An over bloated military budget is no worse than an over bloated Dept of Education and we have both!

      • AK Tom

        From an overbloated military budget to a paper tiger. Oblamer is doing his level best to set US up for defeat. The death of 30 Navy Seals by carelessly placing them on one slow moving Chinook helicopter making them an easy target, six aircraft carriers all docked at one port, the rules of engagement our soldiers have follow in Afghanistan, the START treaty, the list goes on, and on…and on

      • http://google mike b.

        Hussein Obama is a Thug!!!! Obaminism= Thugery

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        I say, You need to met a real Thug.

      • Bob666

        Yo Darwin,
        Mike is one of those “special” guys. He will soon call you a “punk” and read you the riot act.

      • eddie47d

        AK Tom; Soldiers die in war and they are transported in large numbers. What part of that don’t you get? That wasn’t the first helicopter to get shot down and it won’t be the last. 76 Airborne Rangers died in one battle at Dak To in 1967 and the enemy won that one. Did that make President Johnson a bad President for that reason. Did it make Gen Westmoreland a terrible leader for allowing it to happen. That seems to be your thinking!

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear eddie47d,

        You write: “Did that make President Johnson a bad President for that reason. Did it make Gen Westmoreland a terrible leader for allowing it to happen.” It was not the cause of Johnson being a bad President and Westmoreland being a bad leader, it was the effect of Johnson being a bad President (and despicable, evil human being) and Westmoreland being a bad leader.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • APN

        Eddie said ” Did that make President Johnson a bad President for that reason.”

        What made Johnson a bad President was the simple fact that he was a progressive FOOL. Boy, he was a genius, ” We gonna wipe out dat poverty in Amarica, we gonna have three chickens in every pot! We gonna win this wOO on proverty in AMARACA by giving the peoples some FREE CHICKENS!

        Shucks, Edidiedum, what happened, 17 Trillion in debt and still got folks that ain’t got no chicken in da pots?

        Shucks, and I thought we AMARICANS were “Progressive??”

        Only a sheep can led to the slaughter….. Eddiedum.

        APN

      • Bob666

        Yo APN
        Were you born pissed off or did someting bad happen along the way?

        BTW, I remeber Carter quite well and I voted for Regan-But left the GOP in his second term.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        As did I. ~

      • Bob666

        Yo Darwin,
        I sure for the same good reasons.

    • Fed up

      Jeremy, where’s Flashy when you need back-up?

      • eddie47d

        Fed Up: Is that the extent of your reasoning today? Now if your mentally challenged and can’t debate the facts I’ll give you a free pass this time.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I don’t need back up Fed up. I am just saying what I believe.

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