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Proof Of A U.S. Police State

February 11, 2013 by  

Proof Of A U.S. Police State
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America has fast descended into a police state. The trouble is that we want to believe in the rule of law and the system that alleges to support and enforce it. But when reality collides with illusion, it is too late. No matter how bad things seem, we always think that times will get better and that government will do the right thing.

Only a few people left Germany in the early 1930s. They could clearly see the evolving tyranny. Many who stayed thought that things would not get so bad or that times would get better. They suffered from normalcy bias, a form of cognitive dissonance. They paid.

The wisdom today is in being able to see what is happening and having the vision to discern what is going to happen. Sorry. Anyone who still believes in the illusion of the rule of law will not see reality until it’s too late to do what is necessary to survive and keep their assets.

Today, the rule of law is what the 1 percent (the government) says it is. The government holds the police power and the military power. Its main purpose is to be the silent force to contain the population.

The population in the United States is well-armed. That fact does not escape the 1 percent. That is why the 1 percent is so eager to find a basis upon which to justify disarming the people. The armed populace is all that stands between the people and full-blown tyranny.

We have entered the last days of the fiat regime. It is evidenced by a falling confidence in government and the government’s stepped-up oppression of the people. This fact continues to be hidden by the mainstream media, which is under the control of the government.

The vast majority refuse to see or admit the regime is failing and descending into totalitarianism. They cite the fact that Americans are free to worship, free to travel, free to work, free to express themselves and free to vote as evidence that America remains free. But there are many signs that America is not far removed from tyranny seen in the former Soviet Union and the depths of Mao-ruled Chinese empire.

The state, meaning the apparatus of government, is “the system” that controls the American people.

Most people foolishly believe that they control the political system through elections. Little do they know that the government and the corporate state own and control the state and, through it, the people. This fact is kept invisible through constant conditioning of the public mind. There has never been any more sophisticated propaganda than in the United States today. No serious issues are ever discussed on national media.

The nature of government and the nature of people put them at natural enmity. Everything that the government is and has, it must extract from the people. It takes so much that it cannot disclose how much. The state and all that it has comes from the production and savings of the people by taxation and inflation.

If there is constant enmity and actually silent war between the State and the people, why is there no physical conflict? The answer is because of constant deceptive propaganda and the fact that the process is gradual over a long period of time. Gradualism clouds reality. Gradualism fogs the mind and suppresses rebellion. Rulers know this.

The elected elites know the proper code words to use to deceive the unthinking populace. Any and every law, no matter how oppressive, can be sold to the people by invoking these words. The Constitutionality of these laws does not matter and is not discussed. The court system does not help. All major legal decisions since the United States became a nation have been in favor of the government.

The Internet has thrown a wrench into the cogs that run the government propaganda machine and suppress the people. Information is now available that was once hidden or manipulated in favor of the state. The wall of propaganda has been breached.

This has thrown the elites off their game. Where they preferred to continue with their glacial march toward full-blown tyranny, an awakening populace has recognized the stepped-up oppression and has begun to push back. The physical conflict that had been so long avoided seems almost inevitable.

It’s obvious the American regime is preparing for it:

  • President Barack Obama’s regime has invented “legal” grounds to justify assassinating American citizens with drones. So far, three Americans have been executed without trial, including a 16-year-old from Colorado. This is mission creep far beyond what little George W. Bush began and Congress enabled with the false “war on terror” and the 4th Amendment-nullifying USA Patriot Act of 2001 (since extended).
  • 2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow, Ph.D., who is noted for his work saving thousands of babies in China from certain death through the country’s one-child policy, claims in a Facebook post that a military member and “hero” who everyone would recognize confided in him that Obama is using as a litmus test of military leadership that involves their willingness to fire on U.S. citizens and is removing those who say they will not.
  • The Department of Homeland Security has ordered another 21.6 million bullets to add to the 1.6 billion it has bought in the last year. Before the order, DHS had more than enough bullets to shoot every U.S. citizen four times and keep hundreds of millions of rounds in reserve. For perspective, during the height of the Iraq war, U.S. soldiers were using 5.5 million rounds per month.
  • The immigration reform legislation currently under discussion would place many more drones into U.S. airspace to spy on citizens along the border and within the 100 mile border zone over which DHS claims jurisdiction. It also calls for biometric ID cards maintained by the government at considerable expense — and no doubt wrought with considerable problems and shortcomings — that would be necessary to secure employment and perform other interactions with government functionaries and bureaucracies.
  • Police officers are teaming with National Guard and other U.S. military units to carry out training exercises that resemble military invasions on U.S. soil in violation of Posse Comitatus.
  • The Obama regime aided by a complicit Congress passed into law just more than one year ago the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which gives the regime the power to arrest and indefinitely detain American citizens without habeas corpus.
  • The surveillance state is growing more intrusive by the day. Police now have scanners that can peer beneath our clothes and in our cars and homes on street corners and in mobile units. Cameras and audio recording devices are everywhere.
  • High Schools students are being required to carry microchipped cards that record their whereabouts and to submit hair samples for mandatory drug testing.
  • Police officers are accompanying electric workers to enforce installation of so-called “smart meters” on houses that have the capability of spying on homeowners and supplying the state with terabytes of data on day-to-day activities. This opens the homeowner up to abuse from state enforcers and identity theft from thieves.

The elite behind the scenes count on the ignorance of the American people — who have been dumbed down with drugs, tobacco, alcohol, debauchery, a craze for national sports, instant gratification, debt and no rule of law — to ignore these and the many other loses of freedoms as they advance their agenda to confiscate all the world’s wealth and enslave the populace.

How long will it continue before the pushback commences?

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • icky retardo

    Once the 20,000 drones are over the US, we will selectively prune you as you approach with your weapon. This policy, along with others such as the NDAA, viiolate the constitution already, and what is happening? Talk, talk, talk. Good luck to you. Get ready to wear your little Mao tunic and surrender your wealth. Heres a shovel. Start building that road. Shut up, or you will be sxxx.

  • mark

    Dear Bob,

    As you yourself say: “The vast majority refuse to see or admit the regime is failing and descending into totalitarianism.” And in this, as in the overwhelming amount of cases, the vast majority of the American people are correct and the paranoid extremists are wrong. You then continue: “They cite the fact that Americans are free to worship, free to travel, free to work, free to express themselves and free to vote as evidence that America remains free.” Well, yeah, that’s pretty formidable evidence of freedom, the kind of freedom that billions living under other political systems wish they had. It’s a fact and and one of the main motivations for million of human beings wanting to live in the United States rather than their own nations. Jim Garrow an aggressive pro-life activist claimed that “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.” Please. Our military had thousands of right-wing exremists who despise Obama as a weaking for not invading Syria and Iran (both wet dreams for militarists) as a liberal who is ruining their precious military by allowing gays and woman to serve in combat without discrimination. These extremists, several of them racists as well, spout all kinds of nonsense. And Garrow ludicrously accepts what they say as fact!? He’s just another right-wing rumor monger, like numerous of the left-wing rumor mongers during the Bush administration.

    Sincerely, mark

  • NamVet

    To those that believe we have no choice but to do as these [expletive deleted] say, is the reason we are where we are to day. No guts to stand up for freedom and what we believe. A Country of fat do-nothings and [comment has been edited], who can’t get off there sofa. It’s time to put down the game controllers and pick up our guns, to fight the fight our for-fathers had to to keep our freedoms that the pen put on our the Constitution and Bill or Rights The pen may be mightier than the sword, but the sword is what makes it happen. To all those that took the Oath, Simper Fi.

  • ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN

    The MAIN problem is BELIEVING in LAWS, Laws are simply the “Foot in the door” and are only ABROGATIONS of rights. The constitution and bill of rights are all that is needed. People who violate others can be charged under the constitution/Bill of rights- PERIOD.

    • Hedgehog

      Hey Roger, for once I agree with you wholeheartedly! But, then I’m another Canadian.

      • ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN

        “Hedgehog”, maybe BECAUSE we are Canadians ,and care about what happens in the U.S. because what happens there affects us, we are viewing from the OUTSIDE, and thus we can be more OBJECTIVE. There is no doubt, from my many years( 72 of them,in fact) that Canadians know MUCH more about the U.S. than Americans know about Canada

      • Charlie

        Roger,,,Hedgehog,,,
        How did you Canadians get so smart and not be aware that America is NOT and Has NOT basically been going by The Constitution OR The Bible for well over 30 years,,,AND NOR does Canada… Both are a Police State to a heavy degree,,,IF,,, you don’t believe that check the history of how the RCMP get their so called criminals… Any American that want to find out how Police State Canada has become ,need, only drive the Alaska Hiway thru Canada to Alaska… And you Canadians be careful about bad mouthing “”Rednecks”"…
        rednecks will be found where ever in the world oil fields are brought in and developed and Canada has plenty of oil fields that rednecks were there to help develop…
        Meanwhile…Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • R. Fine

        Clearly you don’t know what a police state is. Also, what’s up with all this king Jesus stuff? And following the Bible literally? Are you sure about that?

      • Gea

        Jesus (Joshua) of Nazareth was a good Jewish guy, who tried to save the Jews from Roman oporession, preaching true Judaism. Those who were born and lived all their lives in USA do not know how good they have it here, in spire of imperfections of our society. We DO have freedom to pursue happiness and express our disatisfaction with the politicians, something that most people around the world do not have…

        First Amandment, which Barack Hussein Obama is subverting in order to cover up the supremacist ideology of Islam is essential to keep America going…and so is the Second amandment, so that nobody dares to become a dictator for too long… Preserve US constitution and independence from government dole (except fror the really disabloed peiople) and keep our country safe from false prophets, such as Barry Seotoro Hussein Obama…

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Read The Bible for yourself ,,,IF,,,The Bible is not True,,,We all got big problems….

      • R. Fine

        I do read the Bible often. I find much in that book of great value and inspiration. But there is a good deal of nonsense in there too and folks who take it literally are simply nuts who should have their heads examined. I especially appreciate much of the law code as set out in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. There are laws there that still form the basis of rational and just society BUT there are some laws there that are horribly antiquated and should be removed. God – if you believe in God – gave us rational minds and we should use those minds to make decisions that suit our current circumstances and not follow rules/laws that may have made sense in ancient society. But then you probably believe in talking snakes so you’re not likely to appreciate what I am saying here.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        You have NOT accomplished Acts 2:38,,,The Bible calls out a lot of things that are hard to believe …. When you accomplished Acts 2:38 in harmony with other Scriptures ,then you will see things as The Holy Spirit points them out…. DO NOT try to fake it,,, do it PER Scripture , because there are some people that cannot be saved………………….

      • R. Fine

        Yes, I agree that the Bible – and the so-called holy books of other religions as well – are hard to believe. That is because the folks who wrote that stuff about a man getting created from mud or a woman getting created from a guy’s rib or talking snakes or getting swallowed by a fish and living to tell the tale had no knowledge of how the natural world works. They were not yet in the scientific era. They lived and wrote their fanciful stories honestly perhaps but certainly ignorantly. For example they thought that the sun went around the earth because in the morning the sun appeared in the eastern sky and by night time the sun was “setting” in the west. It seemed to go from one side to the other. Thanks to science we now now that, in fact, it is the earth that goes around the sun. The ancients also thought that the stars were gods and that they were not all that far “up”. Science has shown us that stars are actually suns in their own solar systems and that they are very, very, far away indeed. Bible stories have a bit of usefulness now but to advocate following the Bible literally word for word is just plain backward and dumb. I know it sounds insulting but frankly if you believe the Bible literally you are in dire need of an actual education. I have had many conversations with certain religious folks (not even Christian) and – sad to say – they are really dumb generally speaking. Ask an Orthodox Jew, for example, how – if the Bible story of creation is correct – the earth was populated. Adan and Eve had only 2 sons. Then the Bible tells us that they “knew their wives”. Oh really? Where did those wives come from? There are only 2 people created in the Garden and they had only sons. Where’d the gals come from pray tell? And don’t tell me that God works in mysterious ways or some other rationalization. The story is just plain lame.

    • Stanley Waugh

      Bravo, Roger! To paraphrase you: So-called “laws” are, in actuality, the rules, regulations, and
      policies of the CORPORATE STATE, not the common laws of the Constitutional, republican state. But this is exactly what the receivers of our (fraudulent) national bankruptcy want for their collateral—us! All the better to control and extract from those who BELIEVE these “laws”.
      Stanley, (Austro-German) American theocratist

      • ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN

        EXACTLY-Please excuse my VERY brief reply, but anything longer will close the minds and put back to sleep AGAIN,the SHEEPLE or encourage the rednecks to tell me to stay in Canada because i have no busines etc.,etc.,etc. { I am Irish too ;-) } !!!

      • http://PersonalLiberty Julie

        Here is a web site to help understand our laws. http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/freeman/freeman4.htm

    • Don 2

      Everything Hitler did in Germany was lawful too.

  • Toy

    I’ve just been watching Stossel:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBiJB8YuDBQ&feature=player_detailpage

    8 years for importing lobsters? The wrong tree?
    The juries says your not guilty; the Fed says, that doesn’t matter to us!
    And that’s been going on for years!
    10′s of thousands of new laws every year!

  • TOCB

    I agree the USA is not a free state. Althouhg it did not begin with President Obama, he has allowed it to continue and indeed escalate in some ways. Republicans supported President Bush when we was abusing the constitution but they have been as critical as they can be on President Obama. Conversely, Democrats are silent, even if not supportive of President Obama when he abuses the constituion.

    I recognize and accept laws, rules and regulations. What I have a huge problem with is denial of due process and abuse of authority. The 1% and their royalty class government keeps us divided over nonsensical issues to distract us from real issues. I am not a gun advocate and I think there are too many guns in our society. I believe the people who run our government are just sold out to the corporations and the wealthy because the masses have not accepted responsibility for government and allowed politicians and the press to corrupt it. What we need more than an armed citizenary is an educated and united citizenary.

    • jdn

      TOCB , you are very correct . We have let out political process become a sports franchise . Everyone roots for their team no matter the outcome or what they do . Divided and conquered .

    • Charlie

      What Schools teach The Whole Holy Bible as written?? IF,,,a nation cannot unite under The Holy Bible,,,what “”Truth”"”will they ever unite under???

  • Ted

    I went to a gun show yesterday and purchased some weapons and ammo. The place was packed and the most popular firearm going out the door were the assault rifles and ammo. I think some of the people understand what is happening in our country and are preparing themselves while our rights are still intact. The thought of DHS having that kind of supply of hollow point rounds scares me. The collapse may not happen in my lifetime, but it will happen.

    • Hedgehog

      Ted, has anyone considered that some of those buying guns and ammo are government shills, using your tax dollars to swell the government’s arsenal and deprive citizens of those weapons?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        No that is pure paranoia.

      • kimo3690

        AMEN Hedgehog!!!!! Well said!!

  • Libertas Vel Mors

    …. I hear many conservatives talk about the possibility of a coming conflict, or even civil war…. everything in whispers and hushed tones. Of course many of my liberal colleagues are as happy as Marxists on May Day…. though i have heard more and more of them complain about our gov’t…. both state and feds…. of course, they complain in private, looking over their shoulder to make sure none of their Komeraden hear. i wonder if this is what many of the Tories from our Revolution went through? Interesting….

    • Steve E

      During the Revolution: Not only have loyalists been generally dismissed as self-interested, cowardly, antidemocratic, elitist collaborators, their numbers have often been distorted and minimized. Determining who was a loyalist and under what conditions can be very difficult. Given the intimidation and violence to which they were subjected by crowd action, committees of safety, and patriot agitators like Paine, most loyalists carefully avoided public scrutiny. Many signed oaths of allegiance to the patriot cause when threatened with public action; some successfully maintained a pretense of neutrality; and still others kept their secret safe. This may explain why calculations of the percentage of loyalists in the colonies and early states have varied from one-fifth to one-third of the total population. The most famous estimate of the percentage of loyalists at the time of the Revolution comes from an 1815 letter John Adams wrote to James Lloyd in which he calculates that one-third of the population were “averse to the revolution.” In the same letter Adams also suggests that another third wavered in their allegiances. Even at the more conservative (probably too conservative) 20 percent figure favored by some historians, the idea that such a significant proportion of the population may have opposed the independence movement is a staggering fact—a fact that remains virtually unaccounted for in our reckoning of the Revolution. Moreover, if we add the significant numbers of blacks and Native Americans who, for various reasons, sided with the British, the percentage of loyalists swells to an even greater proportion of the population.

      • tony newbill

        Steve speaking of Population …. its obvious that this time the revolution will be over why Our nation is being consolidated for population control when its not the USA that has this problem , and we the people will wake up one day and start to ask this question as to why we are being forced to conform to a ideology that these elites see as the only way to force the rest of the world to conform to their ideals of control of growth .
        And this topic just goes to prove that the idea that allowing amnesty of illegal immigrants while the technocratic elite are saying the USA needs to have population control is PROOF that they are only allowing amnesty to gain popular vote , so the Immigrants Really need to be asking themselves what will become of them and the rest of us once they have voted these Power Grabbers the ability to fully implement their intentions ??

        This article shows that in a world of Utopian thinking they are even resorting to mind control to persuade the public’s thinking about population control read the segment where the actress speaks about being a part of all this in a Good way , http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44990504/ns/us_news-life/#.URd_8PLzyTY

      • Texas Ride

        Tony, another question would be…If population control is needed, why is government paying the useless to sit at home and reproduce hundreds of thousands of illigitimate kids!

        How about the black woman that has Fifteen (15) kids., She was mad and demanded that “Someone needs to take care of my kids!” That is what government has taught the useless…it is not their responsibility to take care of the kids they produce.Her story was on all the MSM outlets, at the time.

        Population control, if needed in this country, should be about people like her. And, it should be about illegals that are invading by the Millions.

      • tony newbill

        Texas Ride first they have to build up the majority voters that support them by buying them scaring them telling them they will lose their medicare , social security and free phones , whatever else they buy a majority with , and we are there pretty much . Next comes the bait and switch tactics in the middle of a crisis that will transform the republic like a crisis such as the Financial one that leaves the USA flat on her back because of a currency war and rejection of the dollar in the world markets . That will bring on the Fundamental Transformation of economic Liberty in not just the USA but all of the Americas .

        Argentina already has nationalized her Commodities supply to stabilize food costs , the domino are starting to fall …..

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.l.rice.31 Robert L. Rice

    Personally ive seen this coming for the last 20 years,ive got my bags packed….Sc— oreo,pelosi,reid,and those other dim wits in DC,I still say the one SURE way to solve this government problem,is a short rope from a tall tree,the govt has the audacity to call me a terriorist,because i served 21 years 9 months and 21 days,and retired from THE US Army.. MOST of those DC clowns never served 1 day in the military,bring back the draft,then most of those weenie kids will haul butt to Canada,part of our problem solved !!!

  • Dave67

    You people just need to Stop…

    STOP IT NOW!

    STOP IT NOW!

    The paranoia is funny but dangerous. Freedom in this society has always been tied to money because money gives you the freedom to travel and move up the social ladder. Get mad at the corporatists for destroying the Unions that got most people prosperity in the 1950′s, Get mad at the wealthy who lobby Congress to keep us in a perpetual war footing so we can give 700B plus to the military every year, Get mad at the mistake of unions for helping create insurance companies for HC and Nixon for helping institute the employer-insurance company model.

    Too many people in on this board are fools, they are afraid of our gov, it should be the other way around. Gov should fear the people’s ability to kick them out of their position. Idiots go out and buy guns because Obama is president and the softheads blame him for the current state of affairs when little is his doing.

    Reaganomics is and should be dead. His non-sustainable defense spending, his tax cut and spend policy, his selling out of our manufacturing base for cash is what really has led to our country’s downfall.

    The solution is real simple… Vote.

    Anyone who puts forth legislation that benefits the wealthy to the middle class’s and poor’s detriment should be voted out.

    Anyone who voted to keep the military’s spending at it unsustainable level, should be voted out.

    Put in people that will vote to:

    End Corp welfare
    Include people, not exclude
    Do what is right and not policically the easiest for ALL Americans, not just the top wage earners.
    End the two party charade/monopoly in this country
    End the Patriot Act and its subsequent amendments

    Some of the things the paranoids forget in this country are:

    1) Our military is a ALL VOLUNTEER FORCE
    2) The Military is under civilian control and oversight per the US Constitution.

    Its not in our culture to allow or support any sort of police/military state

    We have not lost freedom as much as economic power for the middle class and poor than that fact has been manipulated by people like the writer of this nonsense and many here as a loss of freedom.

    Wake up…

    • mike

      try to vote them out, the so called elections are allready determined before the election!

      • tony newbill

        Hey I wonder what Obama is telling them to teach these Child soldiers ?

        Presidential Memorandum — Presidential Determination with respect to the Child Soldiers Prevention Act of 2008

        http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/28/presidential-memorandum-presidential-determination-respect-child-soldier

      • Gary

        Mike,

        Proof of your statement is Ron Paul! Look how quickly the Republican party ended that risk to the status quo.

      • tony newbill

        Hey I thought Ron Paul was ANTI united nations ?? Looks Like he even is a Hypocrite when it comes to Money !!!!!!

        http://www.ronpaul.com/2013-02-08/ron-paul-vs-ronpaul-com/

      • nc

        mike, nobody told Root and Hannity and the big Republican donors that the elections were decided before the election! Maybe STUPID was not a strong enough word!

      • http://PersonalLiberty Julie

        Mike I think your right. Just like Obama said to the Russian president last year, he’ll have more pull after he’s reelected. So, he knew he’d be reelected. This might be also the reason why he didn’t try too hard during the first debate with Romney. A couple days ago he told the dems in the house representatives that they will control the house in 2014, and that Nancy Pulosi will be the house speaker again. This sounds to me he already knows what is going to happen in the 2014 elections.

      • Karolyn

        Julie – So you don’t belive in thinking positive? Oh, my bad, I forgot; you’re a conservative.

      • http://PersonalLiberty Julie

        Kathern, I’m getting more and more positive that the elections are rigged. For years I was a Democrat, even campaigned for a few, but I woke up when I figured out there wasn’t much difference between the two(Dems and Repubs). I consider myself more a conservative, and proud of it. Do you have a problem with it?

      • http://PersonalLiberty Julie

        Sorry Karolyn, I spelled your name wrong.

    • Hedgehog

      Dave 67, it’s not who votes that counts. It’s who counts the votes that counts. Your last election proved that!

      • Dave67

        Hedgehog,

        You really think Tricky Mitt Romney who stood for nothing but his own tax dodging interests won the election?

        Many voting places used DIEBOLD machines and the hed of that company is a registered Republican.

        The GOP field of candidates was the weakest I have ever seen. Pathetic is the word I would describe. Nobody that was serious in the GOP wanted any part of this election because they know that the problems of this country took 40 years to create, and it make take longer than 4 years to fix.

      • tony newbill

        Congress approval is 18 % so this means NO ONE thinks these guys a worth a s–t .
        So how the democrats stayed in their positions with their president in tact can be understood by the way they DO NOT Want to CUT the Spending to the Dependent Voters they have created while the RINOS have isolated themselves from the voters because they continue to support a trade policy that leave the voters NO Choice but to BEG for a handout , and this is why MITT ROMNEY LOST !!!!!

        But aside from that dysfunction in Government policy this Portrays our Problem which seems to be one of choice but Why is it that the Ones that can make the choice available to we the people are not doing so ??

      • Gea

        Mtt Romney is a very moral man who gives 15% of his yerly income to charities unlike Obama’s 1% and Biden 0.2%. He is not forcing working people to pay for moochers who are given freebees by Obama.

        Also, Mitt Romney was a bishop in his church, which position is given onlly to people of high moral character. OBama is a phoney baloney who had deceived Americans and bought election by various freebees which creates small business of pimping and prostitution by giving them free phones and other perks which working people cannot get and should not get for free.

        Mitt Romney also is hgihly competent manger and creator of new wealth and jobs, while Obama knew how to teach people to mooch the existing system and living on the dole. Obama got rich on his toll stories, which are not to be believed, He had been groomed for Presidency by Jessie Jackson in Chicago, another crooked black politicians who used his skin color to his advantage.

      • tony newbill

        correction congress approval rating is 10 % so this explains why those who are buying the vote are winning . http://www.gallup.com/poll/152528/Congress-Job-Approval-New-Low.aspx

      • Dave67

        Gea,

        The Mormon religion mandates giving 10% of your money back to the church to pay for their marketing and temples.

        Are charitable donations tax deductable? Yes…

        Religions are businesses and they should be taxed as such.

        Tricky Mitt is an entitled elitist. He never had to earn money a day in his life. His whole career has been centered around himself and getting out of paying his share of taxes so the rest of us fits the bill. He had no problem tearing up companies, sending jobs overseas as long as he made his. Typical corporatist.

      • tony newbill

        Why is it that the trickyist presidents of all are the ones who have the Main Stream media in their favor to the point that Public perception is the deception of successes ?

      • Dave67

        Capitalist at Birth…

        Congress spends the money? (true) but that doesn’t stop conservatives for breaking their arms patting Reagan on the back for a false economy now does it?

        Does it stop many hear from blaming Obama for the lack of movement on the economy when the GOP control the House and that idiot Reid and the other idiots (Senate GOP) play games in the senate?

        Unions gave us the 40 our work week, work safety laws, ended child labor and if you were a Union worker in the auto industry for an example, you could work on the assembly line, afford to have only one bread winner, while saving for college for your kids and retirement. Using the Auto Industry again, HC Insurance was created as a benefit to their members and people like the Kaiser family took the model and expandied it nationwide, essentiallly removing the patient as the end user of HC.

        Reagan tripled the National debt. HE proposed tax cuts, HE proposed incrases in defense spending and expansion of Gov. HE led the deregulation of the banks and credit, and HE aided the trade deals thay helped get rid of our manuafcturing base. Reagan and Clinton were the worst Presidents for our economy in my lifetime. Equal blame goes to their Congresses as well.

      • Hedgehog

        Dave67 et al; I did not say Romney won the election, In point of fact it may never be determined who WON the election. But is possible to say without fear of rational contradiction that the American People LOST that election! That election should never have happened. The number of Constitutional violations should have ensured Obama’s impeachment long before Nov. 6 2012. That was not an election, it was a FARCE. A failure by your Elected representatives and the Supreme Court to nip a nascent tyrant in the bud. Now you the people have to take back your country the hard way. I wish you good luck!

      • Don 2

        Dave67,

        You got a point. Instead of dealing a weak field with a very successful business man like Romney, perhaps the GOP should have put forth a strong field of community organizers(antagonizers) with more experience than Obama. Can you imagine all that community organizing experience on the same stage ? Sends a tingle up my leg.

      • Deerinwater

        Don says; “Instead of dealing a weak field with a very successful business man like Romney”.

        I say , as long as rank and file GOP supporters continues to view Mitt Romney (types) as a successful business men, the GOP will be disconnected from the sentiments of the rest of the nation Don.

        That we have this wide abyss in public thinking on what constitutes “success” , will forever keep us separated and venomously opposed.

        As for myself, ~ I’m not moving an inch in your direction on this matter.

        In matters of public Domain, ~ success is seen as a Win/Win scenario ~ if a few persons “winning” comes at the cost of many losing ~ That is not a public success but a private one.

        Any private success that can hide from litigation by corporate laws that leaving victims and injured parties in their wake with no recourse does not constitute any “success”, as I understand success unless it’s a criminal success.

        I have no interest in being a part of nor would I want such a successful person carrying out my garbage much less presiding over the highest office of the nation.

        Don, most of American voters will agree with me on this matter where they be democrats or republicans which leaves Librarians, that hate ,government, any rules, that just fell to earth owning no one nothing, to think Mitt Romney might be presidential material.

        The bulk of GOP voters was held hostage November 2012 by a GOP machine attempting to serve three masters.

        It didn’t work out so good did it?

      • Don 2

        dave67 = dave67d = different name, same crappolla

      • Don 2

        Deerinwater,

        Wow, that post went right over your head. Whew!

        At any rate, you appear to be making a number of vague accusations about the man. probably as a result of being spoonfed hate messages from MSNBC and the rest of the lamestream press which doesn’t report news anymore, but rather prints what the WH tells them. If you have proof regarding some negative truths about Romney, please enlighten us all.

        As far as the disconnect you speak of, and the new war on successful people, well, that propaganda was something created by our “dear leader” as another means to divide Americans. Until the tyrant took over the WH, being successful was a good thing, now successful people are to be villified.

        Whether or not Romney was the right pick or not, was not my message. However, compared to a Marxist community antagonizer, he was still 1,000 time superior. And Obama was a self-declared Marxist when he entered Occidental College. His mentor as a youth was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party U.S.A. card carrying member and propagandist, and supporter of the former Soviet Union.

      • Deerinwater

        Don says; ” that I make a number of vague accusations and that “his post “must have went over my head and then he proceeds to say

        speaking of Mitt Romney he say ~ ” However, compared to a Marxist community antagonizer, he was still 1,000 time superior. And Obama was a self-declared Marxist when he entered Occidental College. His mentor as a youth was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party U.S.A. card carrying member and propagandist, and supporter of the former Soviet Union.”

        Well you can believe that Don ~ but thank God, most of us don’t ~

        Don I find you useful. ~ You just keep believing what you believe. ~ IT works for me.

      • Don 2

        Deerinwater,

        As expected, you haven’t come up with a single fact to show that Romney was actually a bad guy, or did anything unlawful. To the low-information voter like yourself, Romney having been successful, and Deerunderwater not having gotten a piece of that action, is a bad thing. By what you have written, I’m thinking that you are probably a union(socialist by nature) member.

        I suggest that you watch the autobiography “Dreams from My Real Father – A Story of Reds and Deception” directed by Joel Gilbert, and listen to what comes out of Obama’s own mouth, and see what a little statist bit/h Michelle really is, again words coming out of her own mouth. See for yourself, it is them talking, not someone else.

        Then start doing some research by googling “Barack Obama + Frank Marshall Davis.”

        You just go ahead and keep believing in Obama. Ignorance is America’s Greatest Threat. Frankly, I don’t find you useful at all.

      • Deerinwater

        Don, ~ I’ve no interest in trashing Mitt Romney for your amusement and entertainment. I have told you that I had reject him and anyone like him on the ground of his Vulture Capitalist history.

        I could also mention his “fuzzy math” that didn’t add up or his lacking in qualities in other areas as well, like his lack of focus or failing to express his convictions well. I took him as being just another corporate lap dog., for the right price willing to be sympathetic to anyone and anything irregardless of who it hurt as long as he didn’t know them personally.

        If you feel like that it impossible for me to expose Mitt Romney for what he is ~ fine, you hold on to that thought, I will allow you that.

        Run him again! but for now you’ve got Obama.

        .

      • R.F.

        The problem with Mitt was that he was not a very good organizer/leader. His run for the office was horrid. I remember after his defeat some of his people came out and complained that the only reason Obama won the election was that he had well organized teams of supporters in every state who systematically went to voters and explained his policies and then got the vote out. Well how do you like that?!? Mitt, on the other hand, spoke out of both sides of his mouth almost within the same sentence. He would say anything to anyone at any time apparently unaware of what he had said the day before. Anything for a vote. What a loser.

      • Don 2

        R.F.

        I’m not arguing for “Ran a terrible campaign Romney.”

        I am arguing against Obama, a Marxist, who dedicated himself to radical courses at Columbia; a man who studied Political Islam under Dr. Edward Said, known as the Professor of Terror because of his relationship to the PLO, and Professor Richard Cloward, a Marxist, who authored “The Crises Strategy” which advocated overwelming the welfare roles with minorities, to collapse capitalism.

        I could continue, but I would hope that you can see the resemblence of what Richard Cloward taught Barack Obama, and where this country is headed.

        In addition to his “C” average, which would prove him not to be nearly as smart as the press makes him out to be, he will not release his college records because it would show the relationship between his radical studies and his leftist radical ideology.

      • R.F.

        The President has 3 university degrees and two of the schools are about as good as they get anywhere on earth: Columbia University and Harvard Law School. They have pretty high standards so I wouldn’t worry about his grades. In addition Obama was TWICE chosen to be editor of the Harvard Law Review which is a rare honour to attain even once. And of course he went on to be a Professor of Constitutional Law at the U of Chicago. I’m sure they got see his past grades before hiring him even though you haven’t seen his grades. And tonight you’ll be hearing the presidents plans for the nation over the next 4 years. Listen carefully and enjoy.

      • Don 2

        R.F.,

        Obama got in because he had political connections, not because he was smart. Editor of the Harvard Law Review, eh? Well guess what? He hasn’t published a thing. That title is as impressive as Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize just for being born, or his voting ‘present’ on every vote as an Illinois senator. What a farce.

        No, I won’t be watching tonight. I’d rather get a root canal than watch a guy that cannot even put a sentence together w/o a teleprompter. But you go ahead and be duped, and worship your ‘Dear Leader’

      • Deerinwater

        Don 2 says, “Obama got in because he had political connections, not because he was smart. ”

        So I ask Don, so even being not so smart, Obama (a young man of color) managed to acquire enough political clout that it catapult him to the 1st chair position in less then 4 years ?

        Amazing! Only in America!

        Here’s the way I see it Don, ~ It’s not that Obama is so bright ~ but the GOP has acted out and behaved so foolishly , you can only call it down right stupid!

      • R. Fine

        Just for your information an editor edits submissions to a journal. An editor does not write articles. I think you should just take a peak at the address tonight. It might help you realize something more than the tripe you get from talk radio. You needn’t let on to any of your buddies that you tried being open minded for an hour. You can keep that bit a secret.

      • Don 2

        deerunderwater,

        It appears that you’re having a problem following the conversation. Perhaps you should go to bed early tonight instead of watching your ‘Dear Leader’

        You are correct about one thing. It is not that Obama is so smart. It is that his worshipers are so stupid. Apparently, you have a front row seat. I hope that you do not faint tonight while Obama is speaking. Please keep your hand on your medical alert button in case you require an ambulance.

      • Deerinwater

        Don 2 says ” deerunderwater,
        It appears that you’re having a problem following the conversation. Perhaps you should go to bed early tonight instead of watching your ‘Dear Leader’”

        I say, ~ I enjoy robust simulating debate on the issues Don 2.

        That you fail to offer either ~ and make childish sport of my handle as well. I have nothing to offer you Don.

        Never wrestle with a “pig”, he likes it and you both get dirty.

      • Don 2

        R. Fine & Deerunderwater,

        I choose to watch re-runs of “Everybody Loves Raymond” instead of watching your ‘Dear Leader.’ However, from the reports I am hearing, listening to the Marxist repeat his far-left ideologic crapolla, with no solutions to any of the nation’s real problems except to spend more and tax more, was a big waste of time for his followers, even disappointing to some of you.

        I guess for now I’ll just have to take temporary comfort in the fact that besides me getting screwed by Obama, you’re also getting screwed as well. The difference being, I know it.

      • R. Fine

        Gee, you didn’t watch the State of the Union address? You preferred a dumb sit-com with canned laughter? Your admission just says so much about you and your little world and your lack of interest in what is really happening in your country.

      • Don 2

        R. Fine,

        You mean, as opposed to a boring ‘canned speech’ aimed at a leftist base and partisan worshipers. who jump to their feet clapping on cue.

        I don’t have a lack of interest in what is happening in the country. However, I do have a lack of interest in hearing the repeated lies, deceit, and misdirection of your Marxist anti-constitutional, anti-American, pro-Islamic dictator & chief. I already knew what he was going to say. I’ve heard it before, haven’t you? How many times do you have to hear it? Are you that stupid?

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Are you an ostrich? Your contentions regarding the unions, Nixon, and Reagan are factually incorrect. Unions have not now nor did they ever crate prosperity. They have always been an continue to be a criminal operation. Reagan did not have a spending problem. Of course you are aware, aren’t you, that Congress spends the money not the President. Reagan rebuilt our military that had been decimated by Carters policies and cuts. Do you know what defense spending has been as a percentage of G.N.P. historically? Was it higher during the Regan administration which spent the funds that were legislated by Congress? The employer insurance model began in the late 1940′s and continued until recently. I am sure you will begin to see the decline in employer supplied health care insurance in the near future due to the full implementation of the A.H,C.A. It is probably a waste of time to debate anything with a dolt, but I felt compelled to try to enlighten you.

      • nc

        Capitalist, what weapons or weapons systems that you say were “decimated’ by Carter policies did Reagan ever need to defend this country? Have you forgotten that Regan held the veto power when our national debt grew from less than a trillion to almost 3 trillion during a time of no wars??? Did he use it to control the massive spending you say was done by Congress or did he agree with it? Remember that the three wars since Carter were all wars that were freely entered into by Republican Presidents! Without those three ” free will” wars what was wrong with the size of the Carter military? It was still by far the best in the world!!!

      • kimo3690

        BRAVO!! BRAVO!! Well said!!!

    • RedMann

      Dave, yours is the only voice of sanity in this snake den of paranoia driven by the constant rightwing lying noise machine. I fear that your good fight is wasted on the denizens here, they are much happier wallowing in their comforting world that is totally separated from reality. Bob is one of the many RW disseminator’s of mistruth around, but just one of thousands.

      • tony newbill

        RadMann …. LOL LOL LOL so how big is your Government Check ?????

      • Dave67

        Funny Tony,

        Anyone who is in disagreement with you or Bob L is on gov assistance, is a socialist (loves the gov) or is some other nonsense generalization.

        Have you taken a poll that confirms your assertions?

        Having a sane opinion backed up with historical facts is tough to deal with and propagandize for sure. But the insane will always have paranoia. That is what makes them insane.

      • tony newbill

        Actually Dave we all have been on some form of Government assistance directly or indirectly since 2008 you fool think about it !!!!! If you don’t think your job is in some way connected to this bailout crash then you are living in Lala land .

        The US Federal Government has not had a Budget , nor a Economic policy since then that drives Free market growth the stock market is being fed by the federal reserve which if stops the injections the whole house of cards comes tumbling down , AND THEY are NOT This Stupid to keep doing this THINK about it , debt is a tool for the ANTI Capitalists who are driven by their Ideology to transform a nations and therefore a world to save what they perceive as a threat to it , but yet they are causing the the dollar currency war to erupt between nations with this QE hocus pocus and you sit there and try to defend this ??
        You need to Wake Up man !!!!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/cbgard Carlucci

        Thank your for this excellent article, Bob Livingston. I’m posting it on Facebook and forwarding to my email list.

        Unfortunately, the snarky shills are out in force today on the Personal Liberty newsletter. It is obvious that they have never bothered to read a history book, as what is happening now in America is history repeating. I’ll bet these shills went to school just to eat their lunch.

      • Dave67

        Tony,

        So our latest round of debt creation started with Reagan. Is he an Anti-Capitalist? (Check his budget submissions)

        Its called a society, we all pay into the social contract… I have no problem with it.

        Its not a dark attempt by anti-capialists to wreck the system… Its a few at the top taking all of the marbles for themselves… These people have no regard for country or community, only their own power and profit.

      • tony newbill

        Dave please explain to me why it is that our EPA with their regulations that make it way to costly to create products in the USA ” COMPARED to ASIA where the Pollution is KILLING the Earth and yet we allow those products in tariff Free when the EPA and Federal Government should be imposing tariffs on those imports and demanding that all WTO Trade partners adherer to the same standards of Environmental Policy that we here in the USA are ????? If this were done right from the start of the WTO trade agreement I bet the USA would have retained a industrial base and a way bigger job base of self reliance . But President Obama would Lose his environmental Base of support because of the Greater Goal here huh ????

      • Dave67

        Tony,

        I will tell you why… MONEY

        Do you want to live next to a dump? Of course not… The wealthy created the trade and tax rules to benefit them.

        US Multi-Nationals make all the money and they are fine to let other countries have environmental catastrophes. As long as the ugliness is out of sight, they just don’t care. They have two loyalties… 1) to their own wealth 2) wealth of the few majority stockholders who hold the power.

    • mark

      You’re absolutely right, Dave67. But good luck trying to talk sense on this paranoid website where every cuckoo clock conspiracy is accepted as Gospel – with zero documented proof – just links to even more paranoid websites.

      • tony newbill

        well then why are you here ?????

    • larry ryan

      Vote? Please. Voting is a joke, now. In case you weren’t paying attention, there were areas (the media treated it as an amusing story and wouldn’t have said anything about it, except FOX viewed with alarm so they felt the need to respond and defuse) where 100% of the the vote went to Obama and the dems. Even in heavily dem areas there are some registered repubs. Apparently NONE of them voted. Not just one city or area, several. Not only is it rigged, they’re now so arrogant they apparently find it funny to rub our noses in it. Remember Obama’s big grin when informed that a couple districts went for him 100%? He was amused and not one bit surprised.

      • Texas Ride

        And, Larry, some precincts reported 150% more voters than were registered!

        We know Soros owns the voting machines in 26 States, and those votes were counted in the Socialist country of Spain, before the results were reported back here.

        The conservative votes were just “deleted!” Of course, no one in government will talk about “voter fraud,” isn’t that strange…. No one in the republican party will talk about “voter fraud” being rampant. We don’t have two parties in this country. That idea is just propaganda to keep the masses appeased.

      • laidbackrebel

        what you peace loving people keep overlooking is the “powers That Be”. Namely the ILLUMINATI. The ones who have no standing nationality, and no loyalty to anything but their own family, and their personal “HOLDINGS”. Their actual money/ gold/ silver.. Their stated objective is the reduction of the world’s population to 255 million or so. Just enough to provide them with the services the require to live their lives of abundance and ease, while we serve them.

        They have been telling every important world leader what to do since Woodrow Wilson. And their sure not going to quit now, when their objective is so near. All they are seeking is worldwide starvation, since their favorite pass time of creating war has failed to give the desired results…..Maybe worldwide starvation will. These people are untouchable. If they can’t bribe you then they will blackmail you. If those things don’t work, they shoot you….i.e. Lincoln, and Kennedy. Or put you in fear for your family. You, able bodied men…Make the final decision. I have already decided that I will shoot to kill, when they come to take me. And yes, I will die…A better end than to live as a slave and bear my shame in humility.

    • Texas Ride

      Dave67, everything you posted is just gibberish and totally opposite of what needs to happen!

      • Dave67

        According to you perhaps…

        Bob L may sucker you in…I am not so easily duped and I don’t live my life in fear.

      • Texas Ride

        Dave67, no one here lives their lives in fear, nor are they paranoid. That is just liberal hogwash on your part.

        People are beginning to wake up and look at the facts. Why don’t you try it sometimes.

        P.S. What flavor of kookaid are you drinking today.

      • Deerinwater

        Texas Ride say, “P.S. What flavor of kookaid are you drinking today.”

        Well , not your brand for sure with your ideas on voting fraud. ~

        There is always an attempt to control the vote ~ that is largely what election are about. If no one cared, only then might we see no attempt to control the vote.

        This attempt to control votes takes on many forms to be certain. There are thousands of ways this is being done and exactly why the policing of the vote is so strong. ~

        http://americablog.com/2012/11/david-frum-americas-voting-system-is-a-disgrace.html

        While it’s not perfect and there is always room for improvement. ~ We try hard to get it fair and right. It a huge effort. ~ what one person might be able to affect final results would be like pi$$ing in the ocean.

        while I would say, if your guy had won, I question if you’d have these concerns about getting in the vote that accurately reflects the will of the people. ~ You would be willing to assume like me that it did.

        If feel you a need and good reason to misbehave and act ugly ~ your brand of Kool Aid is clearly the best Texas Ride!

      • Dave67

        when you present facts in context Texas, I will read and listen whoeheartedly.

      • Texas Ride

        So does the “tag team” of Dave67 and deerinwaterhole believe that there is no such thing as “voter fraud?”

        Does the “team” refuse to believe that a company owned by Soros bought the voting machines that still serve 26 of our States, that includes 900+ precincts?

        Does the “team” remember the huge amount of voter fraud in 2008 that was documented and widely reported?

        To think that there was “no” voter fraud in the recent election is refusing to acknowledge reality.

        And, least I should forget to mention…the government refused to count the military vote from our service men and women out of country. To me that is nothing but intentionally reducing the election to an “illegal one.”

    • http://PersonalLiberty Julie

      Sorry Karolyn, I spelled your name wrong.

  • michael a.

    You are quite correct, sir in that we need to open our eyes really soon before we one day wake up to an America we do not recognize. We now have basically a one-party government which is totally dysfunctional, with little chance of reforming it. Both major political parties are structured so that you always get the worst available person, the
    “lowest common denominator.” Congress is the world’s most exclusive country club,
    and membership perks soon become an addiction-this is how we get stuck for decades with clowns the like of Ted Kennedy, Charlie Rangel, Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, and oh yes, Nancy “we don’t have a spending problem” Pelosi. Our country is broken spiritually, morally, and fiscally -we need a return to God’s guidance, just as our founding fathers so heavily relied upon. We need to hold accountable our inept elected officials who have been pillaging this country’s wealth, not those who create jobs and wealth. Privacy, or the illusion of it, is always traded by lemmings in the name of “security.”

    • nc

      Michael a. if we return to God’s guidance where do jobs and wealth have a place? What about that teaching to rid yourself of evil wealth and give it to the needy AND GO TEACH “THE WORD’ It’s quite confusing to be taught to love my neighbor, be my brothers keeper and still spend all that money on the military to kill their sorry butts! HELP!!

      • Stuart

        nc, giving to the needy is different than giving to the greedy! Those that have allowed themselves to be caught up in the give me everything and don’t make me work for anything, are not needy; they are the greedy ones and just too sorry to to be part of a society. As a society, we are( IMO) obligated to take care of those that are absolutely too disabled physically or mentally to function and take care of themselves. And only if they have no family to assume the responsibilities to take care of them. A large part of our problem is the narcissistic (all about me) society that we have raised; that won’t take care of their families in need. They have been taught that the Sugar Daddy USA will do it for them, and now we are doing it all over the world.

      • Stuart

        nc, I should have added; Those that took an unemployment check from the GOV (which is me and other tax payers) are also the GREEDY, there is no way in this country that people could have not found something to do to feed themselves. It may not have been the job that they once had but they could have done something! It’s called lack of pride!!

      • Vicki

        I share my wealth with those who truly need. I am also the ONLY one who can accurately decide with whom to share MY wealth. I can not make that decision for you and I can not delegate that decision power to government.

  • abimanu mathoorasing

    As the adage says: Don’t cry over spilt milk. The people voted for the President,we have no choice, but to comply,which seems to be the policy in a democracy.I am convinced that the fiscal cliff is staring right in the face of the President,but we,the people,have no say until the next election in November,four years after the unfortunate one. Please keep fighting as the pen is mightier than the sword.

    • Robert

      One major problem, the controllers pick the candidates. There will never be a candidate that can be elected that represents the people. So other means must be taken.

    • steve

      you must have read a different article here then i did. it said right away that your vote means nothing and yet you still think the system will help you with voting. insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. that’s you . you also probably think that god is blessing this country. if i was him i wouldn’t. not with all the murders to babies and all the wars.

      • nc

        Steve, do you have any idea how many babies god (?) killed in Egypt and in Noah’s flood!? Their sin? Their crime? Does god(?) or satan (?) handle the miscarriages?

      • steve

        it’s his world. he’s perfect. that makes it right. maybe not in your mind.

      • steve

        guess i should have used the word abortion instead of murder. but to god it’s all the same

    • Texas Ride

      Livingston couldn’t have said it better! He hit all the points!

      One point is particularly appropriate for the people that post on forums…

      Quote, “Most people foolishly believe they control the political system through elections.”

      How many times do we read posts that talk about the need to change everything… “in the next election.” That is a naive and stupid mindset. It is nothing but propaganda.

      Government wants us to think we have some control over what happens in this country. Wrong! The people have no control over anything that happens to them. The system has been corrupted and it no longer resembles a constitutional Republic. Government is disfunctional and its only purpose is becoming more tyrannical. Every action, every new law is just another step toward total control of the country’s wealth, and toward enslaving the people.

      The last “free country” in the world is under assault by the greatest fraud ever perpetrated against any people.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      abimanu says: “we have no choice but to comply, which seems to be the policy in a democracy”.

      First of all, we not only have a choice, we have a DUTY to not comply! The following is a quote from The Declaration of Independence: “But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security.”

      Second of all, we are NOT a democracy!!! We are a Republic!!! The rights of the individual shall not be abused!!! In a Republic, majority does NOT rule! Our government works hard to try and convince us that we are a democracy, but we are NOT!!! DEMAND YOUR RIGHTS!!! DO NOT COMPLY!!!

      • Texas Ride

        Nancy, you are correct. Americans do not have to comply with unconstitutional laws and they have a “duty” not to comply! The “duty” is not to bend to tyranny, but confront it.

        Nothing this fraudulent regime has done is “constitutional.” As Livingston said, “…constitutionality of our laws isn’t even discussed!”

      • vicki

        Nancy in Nebraska writes:
        “Second of all, we are NOT a democracy!!! We are a Republic!!!”

        Not just a republic. A Constitutionally LIMITED Republic. This is rather important because just being a government of law is not enough. A Constitution could give dictatorial power to the agents of government.

        OUR Constitution specifically limits the power we can delegate to our government in 2 ways.

        1. It explicitly lists the powers that can be delegated to the Federal Government.
        2. It explicitly lists the powers we can NOT delegate to State Governments.

        One of the most obvious examples is the 2nd Amendment. No matter how much the anti-gun crowd (even if they were 61%) wants to ban guns, the Constitution SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS us from giving our government agents (state or federal) that power.

        Also worth noting is that governments have NO rights and thus can not grant any.
        People have rights and powers. (See amendments 9 and 10)

    • laidbackrebel

      that is the old bull that some stupid teacher taught you. Try sword fighting with a dictionary……..GOOD LUCK.

  • mike

    Looks like 1776 history needs to repeat it self.

  • Grandpa Frog

    I used to hope that the third arm of government would uphold the constitutionality of our government. How naive I’ve been, regarding the Supreme Court’s upholding of Obamacare and their almost (5 to 4 ) decision upsetting of the 2nd Amendment. In light of the media’s so obvious bias, the 1st Amendment’s freedom of the press has been neutered, and the 4th, 5th and 10th rendered impotent. We are back to the 1760′s.

    • vicki

      Read the Declaration of Independence. In particular the list of reasons given for separating from King George. Replace “he” with “the current administration” You can use that for many of the administrations in the US in recent years.

  • Bigron

    THE PRESENT GOVERNMENT IS WE THE PEOPLES ENEMY

    • Dorsetgal

      Bob’s concerns are our new reality. Get your houses in order and store food and ammo for the long haul. Whether we want to admit it or not, horrible shortages are coming and with that desperate people will come hunting for our stores…to save their families. It’s all bad, so prepare while we have a little time left. “A house divided cannot stand.” This country is as divided as it was prior to the Civil War. Note the similarities and remember history always repeats itself.

  • John Machinski

    There is even more proof. Read Rand Paul’s latest book which chronicles how many people the EPA and other government agencies have arrested for moving dirt on their property and other nonsensical charges.

  • hipshotpercusion

    Go to AIM surplus.com and check out firearms and ammo. Practically everything is completely sold out! Gun shops and Wal Marts have virtually no ammo. there is ammo available at gun shows but prices are accordingly high. A lot of folks are getting ready for when TSHTF!

    • Al Chemist

      You’re right Hipshot! And, it’s a pity that we have to compete with HLS buying up the ammo with our tax dollars.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Try, with borrowed money.

  • Mom2Marine

    I want to cut and paste this article on every website….but I then realize that anyone with two brain cells rubbing together already gets it….the others, well we will be reading about them in (future) history books.

  • reeky retardo

    How long? Never.

  • Gea

    I bike and walk to where I need to go…and live off the grid, so that I have no utilkity bills. I am not going to let some energy or water corporation dictate what I do, or local government opress me.

    We in US, “the land of the free”, jhave the highest proportion of incarcerated citizens in the world! Why? Is it that Americans are intrinstically more criminal that the rest of the world, or that we put people to jail for smoking marijuana which is less harmful than alcohol? Also, why do we keep on the dole women who have babies out of marriage who leave those babies with their unemployed boyfriends (who occasionally kill them).

    When people have nothing to do, they get in all kinds of trouble, such as drugs and violence. If anybody wants government support they should be required to do community service for it to keep them busy and learning working skills and sicipline.

    We need to total overhaul of the current social security system that encourages disfuctional and criminal behaviors and makes US a dysfuctional dumb country!

    • vicki

      Gea writes:
      “We in US, “the land of the free”, have the highest proportion of incarcerated citizens in the world! Why? Is it that Americans are intrinsically more criminal that the rest of the world,”

      It is from the war on (some) drugs. A lot of the incarcerated are guilty of being independent and actively resisting oppressive laws on possession of things that they grew or bought without fraud or force. They are not criminals because the laws against possession of things acquired by a free people, without fraud or force, are by their very nature unconstitutional as is the war on (some) drugs. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/269208/prison-math-and-war-drugs-veronique-de-rugy

      It is however proof that the “police state” has been a growing thing for a LOT longer than the obama or Bush administrations.

      • Karolyn

        For once I agree with you Vicki. When they’re putting people in jail for 20-30 years for selling pot, it’s a problem.

      • Vicki

        Yes we do agree on some things. In fact our only major disagreement is on taking other peoples money at government gunpoint for their pet charities.

        I say no to taking money and you say yes.

      • Kate8

        Prisons are now being run by private, for-profit corporations. Prisoners are forced to work for these corporations, and they are actually guaranteed by government certain quotas of prison labor.

        This is why they are incarcerating ever more people who commit no real crimes. I mean, if you need workers, do you want murderers and psychopaths working for you, or people who have led reasonably responsible and compliant lives?

        This country is no longer America. The question is, what are we going to do to restore it?

      • Deerinwater

        A Time Machine? ~ and it is America today Kate and not to be confuses with some other America in some other time. ~

        There is no restoring yesterday. For now, we only know of time moving forward.

        I wish that we ~ could go back, i really do but you and I both know that is not to happen, ~ it’s just a waste of breath to mention.

      • Kate8

        snake – Obviously, you consider descending into hell “moving forward”.

        Humanity has always built up and collapsed over and over. Ebb and flow. Societies come, societies go. We are on track for destruction under this pack of wolves.

  • robert

    Time for people to open there eyes. And see what’s realy going on. Just pray they realize it before its to late.

  • Dawn Wride

    Is anyone in the U.S. Congress standing up for the American citizen, or are members of Congress under the “control” of those who would do America harm? I find it hard to believe that some members of Congress cannot see what is going on in America and speaking out boldly.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      It’s exceedingly rare, Dawn. And even if someone does speak out, you won’t hear about it because the press won’t report it! Ron Paul spoke out and you never heard about it through the main stream media. When he ran for president and participated in the debates, they couldn’t avoid him but they managed that by portraying him as an idiot. The press would either ignore him completely or would twist his words to disparage their meaning. People have become accustomed to allowing the media to decide who is to be heard and what to think. So sadly, IF any speak out, none will be heard!

      • vicki

        We will be heard. Websites like this one. Which is why you find so many paid provocateurs here.

        Also social media. The obama political “machine” knows well the power of social media and conservatives need to use it too. MSM is a dying breed. The threat of the free press we call the internet is one of the reasons the government is trying hard to gain dictatorial control over it. http://www.internetfreedomcoalition.org/?page_id=41

        The home page of the link above has many articles discussing the situation.

    • http://yahoo J Michael Wilson

      Rand Paul!

    • Paul

      They are in a very dangerous place..they will have to be careful with their words and actions because of assinations…just look how many died around the clintons when he was in office….just keep your ears and eyes open i think it’s about to get messy in this country..

  • FreedomFighter

    Yes a great artical, but I think he forgot the only thing that keeps a complete police state takeover from happening:

    We are still armed to the teeth, for now. A loss on the freedom to bear arms is the final nail in the coffin of freedom and liberty, because slaves dont own guns, only the master.

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • Gary

      FreedomFighter,

      How many drones can you dig up with an hours notice? You may have as many guns and the courage but you do not have the sophistication of the gadgets or the lack of morality that Obama and his minions have!

      • vicki

        With all those sophisticated gadgets (see the current stories about the LAPD ex-officer man hunt for descriptions of some of them) why has the US not won the war in Afghanistan? And if you call the current condition “winning” why did it take 10 years?

        Oh and have they caught that ex-officer yet?

      • Elmer

        This reply is actually for Vicky: Call me Captain Obvious, but that ex-LAPD officer hasn’t been caught because they don’t know exactly where he is. Also, he doesn’t have a microchip or other means of tracking him down with sophisticated gadgets such as a drone, and he’s strategically and tactically trained, which is why it’s hard to locate a single person in this situation. It’s not like the movies where they can get a bead on an individual person, even in the middle of a crowd, and take them out.

        As for why the US has not won the war in Afghanistan? No idea. I’d ask the former administration who got us into the war, or the current administration who promised to end the war 4 years ago.

      • Vicki

        Elmer. I did suggest you check out the fancy gadgets being used to locate this individual (who appears to be an anti-gun hypocrite). The fact that he so easily eludes capture is strong evidence that the government will have little success controlling the rest of us unless they get all our firearms. This is evidence to counter Gary’s claim that we would have little chance against all the fancy gadgets government is supposed to have.

      • Vicki

        Here is a link to the anti-gun rant of the ex-LAPD officer.
        http://www.soopermexican.com/2013/02/07/news-media-scrub-cop-murderers-manifesto-of-pro-obama-pro-hillary-loved-msnbc-pro-gay-and-anti-gun-comments/

        It also details the MSM (including now Fox) deliberate intent to suppress this “undesirable” news.

    • truthbeknown

      Right on and the only way now to send a message they might understand.. Is to keep buying guns and ammo at the current pace. Let them know that we will not go silently into the night.

    • http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about omanuel

      I agree.

      America is rapidly becoming part of a world-wide police state – the United Nations.

      Guns and violent resistant are not the answer now. Here is the sequence of events that got us here:

      1400s-1500s: World leaders were closely allied with religious leaders before Copernicus and Galileo discovered Earth is NOT the center of the universe. Earth is NOT even the center of the Solar System:

      At the center of the Solar System is a giant fountain of energy – Sol or Sun !

      1500-1945: World leaders accepted the merits of science and religion and society flourished after this scientific revolution. Leaders like Thomas Jefferson helped establish democratic governments based on the fact mankind is endowed by his Creator with inalienable rights to establish and/or abolish governments that protect his right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

      6 Aug – 24 Oct 1945: Nuclear scientists released the source of energy that powers the Sun – neutron repulsion – over Hiroshima on 6 Aug 1945. World leaders responded by

      a.) Breaking their alliance with religious leaders
      b.) Forming a closer alliance with leaders of the scientific community
      c.) Establishing the UN on 24 Oct 1945 to save mankind from nuclear annihilation.

      1946: The British astronomer, Sir Fred Hoyle, was compelled to write and publish misinformation about the Sun’s internal composition and source of energy. Off-stage, he cooperated with another British author of science fiction – George Orwell – to warn the public a tyrannical police state was approaching and would engulf us by “1984″.

      1946-2013 (a): World tyranny grew, except for a brief period in 1960-1963 when President John F. Kennedy seriously tried to stop this trend. The Apollo Space Program, the Bay of Pigs incident, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the assignation of John Kennedy followed.

      1946-2013 (b): Precise experimental data and observations from the nuclear and space age showed that neutron repulsion in the Sun’s pulsar core is the creator, destroyer, and sustainer of chemical elements, lives and worlds in the entire Solar System: A volume of space larger than ten billion, billion Earths. >10,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earths

      Rather than guns and violence, the best solution for society today is integration (convergence) of science and spirituality.

      http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-2422

      With kind regards,
      Oliver K. Manuel
      Former NASA Principal
      Investigator for Apollo
      http://www.omatumr.com

    • http://uncleteddysreducationcamp.com Thaddeus Toad

      “How Long Before”…. Good question Bob ! ….. When america gets off its ass and turns off the game,when women get their heads out of their asses and pay attention to what is happening to the family as we know it,when somebody in a position of leadership stands up to the sodomites,…. When we quit celebrating trash and elect morally straight leaders which can’t happen until we ourselves become morally straight… that is how long Bob…I might add time is running out quickly..

      • http://PersonalLiberty Julie

        When MEN and women get off their asses and pay attention to the family. Not, just women.

    • http://uncleteddysreducationcamp.com Thaddeus Toad

      Our leaders know we are armed to the teeth…. so what ! They are picking off those on perifiary and at a deliberate pace… Uniformed law enforcement is the first eschalon of defense…and it is very effective as long as nobody questions why their neighbors door was broken down…

    • Don 2

      For your own knowledge, investigate the August 1-2, 1946 “Battle of Athens, Georgia” when W.W. II veterans rose up and armed themselves to fight tyranny and corruption, resulting in a gun battle with corrupt government officials and Sheriff’s Department.

      http://www.primalhabits.org/battle-of-athens-tenn-1946-t3158.html

    • Don 2

      Correction: Athens. Tenn.

    • Sandra Lee Smith

      He didn’t forget that; it was in there! And as was stated, that is precisely the reason for this insane push to disarm, not only in the US, but globally; it’s all about the NWO! We have to be disarmed in order for them to shove the NAU down our throats to make up that 1 of the 10 nation-states under UN governance, in order to bring on the rest of the NWO totalitarianism!

    • Rod Johnson

      if you do not think this is going on go buy bullets in California oh you will have to wait in line so leave early or you wont get any.

    • Fred

      I feel we should start saving our ammunition and start joining your nearest militia or start your our militia cell. Civil war is just around the corner. May God help us!

      • Kate8

        Fred – Common sense would tell us that if we get into a shooting match with the feds we will come out on the short end. They have weaponry that can annihilate large numbers without their needing to confront any danger at all.

        I read where it has been exposed that protesters against this administration have been hit with microwave technology, and are developing cancers at an accelerated rate. And this is only one of their options. If they wanted to they could zap everyone on the spot. And let’s not forget the drones.

        We need to fight smart. If I knew what that meant I’d be a genius. But I’m sure there are well trained patriots who DO know, and we need them to help us.

    • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

      World leaders are desperate to keep the public from knowing they are powerless because the Sun is a pulsar [1-8] that:

      a.) Made our elements
      b.) Birthed the Solar System 5 Gyr ago
      c.) Is still connected to every atom and living cell
      d.) Sustained the origin and evolution of life on Earth after ~3.5 Gyr ago
      e.) Endowed mankind with the incredible creativity of Mozart, Einstein, etc. and
      f.) Inalienable rights to self-governance, to establish/abolish governments in order to
      g.) Protect our birthright to live happy joyous and free (Enjoy Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness).

      Referenced:

      1. Carl A. Rouse, “A solar neutrino loophole: Standard solar models”, Astronomy and Astrophysics 44 (1975) 237-240: http://tinyurl.com/7vx4arv

      2. O. K. Manuel and D. D. Sabu, “Elemental and isotopic inhomogeneities in noble gases: The case for local synthesis of the chemical elements”, Trans. Missouri Acad. Sci. 9 (1975) 104-122.

      3. O. K. Manuel and D. D. Sabu, “Strange xenon, extinct superheavy elements and the solar neutrino puzzle”, Science 195 (January 1977) 208-209: http://www.omatumr.com/archive/StrangeXenon.pdf

      4. Peter Toth, “Is the Sun a pulsar?” Nature 270 (1977) 159-160: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v270/n5633/abs/270159a0.html

      5. Carl A. Rouse, “Evidence for a small, high-Z, iron-like solar core”, Solar Physics 110 (1987) 211-235: http://www.springerlink.com/content/k26825872rv64411/

      6. O. Manuel, C. Bolon, A. Katragada and M. Insall, “Attraction and repulsion of nucleons: Sources of stellar energy,” J. Fusion Energy 19 (2001) 93-98: http://www.springerlink.com/content/x1787171t3263674/
      http://www.omatumr.com/abstracts/jfeinterbetnuc.pdf

      7. O. K. Manuel, “Neutron repulsion,” The Apeiron Journal 19 (2012) 123-150: http://tinyurl.com/7t5ojrn http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V19NO2pdf/V19N2MAN.pdf

      8. Oliver K. Manuel and Alberto Boretti, “Yes, the Sun is a pulsar,” Nature (submitted 12 Dec 2012): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/Yes_the_Sun_is_a_pulsar.pdf

      • Kate8

        omanuel – Again, that information is of little help to us if we cannot understand what it means to us.

        Is there a way for us to harness this power to use in our defense? Are we to trust Creator to use it in our defense? Just what is your message?

      • Mike

        Omanuel you are completely off topic, besides you were probably one of the conspirators about Apollo 18 mission to the moon , and the coverup of alien life found on the dark side of the moon. You think i’m lying. Why have we not gone back to the moon? What happened to the origional plans to build a moon base on the moon? So you need to come down out of the clouds and get on topic. Yes i believe in God, but he is not going to intervene to stop a civil war to prevent tyranny. He did’nt the last time, did he?

      • Charlie

        Kate8,,,
        Omanuel has hit upon tying Science and The Holy Bible together,,, so,,,IF you are not into Science ,,basically,,,and are not into basic Holy Bible,,,then you will never understand what OK Omanuel is talking about or how it can be used everyday for your health, wealth and welfare… BUT,,,the thing to remember is, that, all Humanoids can be deceived by the Satanic forces that The same God that created The Sun also created the Devil and his Demons,,,so,,,once you have basic Science and basic Bible understood to a Prayer Power degree then you can learn to solve all problems in Living Life as God wants…Meanwhile….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

    • Charlie

      omanuel,,,
      Your technology is way over the heads of most readers and writers on this site… The Holy Bible of The Almighty God says that God created all that “”Stuff”"you write of,,,but,,,The Bible says it in much simpler terms,,AND,,, even The Holy Bible is way over the heads of most on this site,,,The Bible is a book of Power from God and all His Creations… But back to destructive Power,,, that heat Power that took out Japan is going to happen again , it is spoke by Peter at 2 Peter 3:12,13,,,what Peter spoke is going to happen, will make the Atomic bomb appear as just a match stick aflame,, and in My opinion I think 2 Peter 3:12,13, is going to happen at about the same time as the book of Obadiah ,,,in fact I think Obadiah will be the detonator for 2 Peter 3:12,13… You Science hi tech guys cannot stop what The Bible says is going to happen,,, but,,, you can protect your self and others with similar Powers from The Bible… What do you think Hi Tech Omanuel is The Bible True???
      Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • Paul

        AMEN

    • akathesob

      Very true and well said. Personally will not comply with any of Barry’s BS.

  • Vicki

    The OP writes:
    “Free to travel.”

    Free to travel? Only if you walk. You have to get permission to take your private property (car) on the kings highway. You have to show your papers to any of the kings royal guard. You have to show your papers to be allowed to get on an airplane and soon TSA plans on having busses and trains on their standard list.

    In some cities you even have to show your papers if you are walking around (NY). There are also many examples on YouTube of the police demanding to “see your papers”

    • tony newbill

      lets talk about the free to travel issue …… here is more research on how we are losing our constitutional rights little by little to travel and just live in a 100 mile Zone around the USA …..The first link is Live , the rest need the HPPT closed back together .
      This part of the report shows where some of that OMNIBUS stimulus money went too . Oh how we were duped they are using our own debt to take away our constitutional rights !

      http://www.dhs.gov/civil-rights-civil-liberties-impact-assessments

      This Timed Release Creeping Tyranny goes hand in hand with Creeping Shariah Law
      ht tp://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/crcl-border-search-impact-assessment_01-29-13_1.pdf
      ht tp://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cbp_directive_3340-049.pdf

      Heres the Review update for 2012 ,
      ht tp://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/ice_border_search_electronic_devices.pdf

      Obama and Bush Administrations are the same …..This map was done in 2006 , President Obama and Janet Napolitano has carried on with the Policy . ht tp://www.aclu.org/national-security_technology-and-liberty/are-you-living-constitution-free-zone

      And during the last 4 years they have added this new NDAA Policy that further eliminates any right to due process ……. SO WHAT COMES TO MIND IS “ WHAT IS SCARING THE US GOVERNMENT SO BAD TO MAKE THEM DO THESE THING “ ????

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Vicki, the travel “restrictions” have been before across the world in all times in history, where if you came into a town you had to check in and when you left you checked out. Most people never traveled more than 50 miles in their lifetimes and I will allow for exceptions as in troop movements and merchant traders. The near distant future will be of people constrained to their residential perimeters because all the shops and offices and hospital are within area.

      • Chester

        Hate to bust your bubble on why the travel restrictions, and they were literally ORDERS not to leave your home without permission, existed. It was to control who was where in a town or a country so you would know who was there legally, and who you could safely toss in the village clink. Thieves didn’t bother getting travel papers, as they knew they would never be given permission to be IN a town. They either went in over the walls, or, more commonly, through a gate where there was a LOT of traffic already, so the guards weren’t as vigilant. The idea in Russia, and most of the Communist bloc countries was that unless you were a government official, you had no reason to be leaving your lovely home and job. Try slavery without the chains and whips.

      • Ibn Insha

        If something was imposed during the days of kings and queens does not mean it was correct and right. Talk about ignorance. Your comment indicates that you probably did not know that we declared independence from the Great Britain well over 200 years ago and the reason was that the King controlled too much of our lives including our movement about town.

    • Stanley Waugh

      Yes, Vicki, you are absolutely right. Last year I was stopped by the Reno Municipal Police on commercial property (Quick Mart, where I was gassing up)
      because my private property car was UNREGISTERED and I didn’t have the other privileged
      documents they demanded from me. They weren’t interested in my declarations to the effect that I was merely traveling noncommercially, not driving. I was not only cited for the Big 3, but the police also
      punished me extra judicially by depriving me of my property without a warrant, by arranging for
      the car to be towed. When I showed up at the tow company’s office to redeem my car, the know-it-all would not release my car based on my Bill of Sale, only for the Big 3. He wouldn’t
      even allow me to retrieve my personal effects still in the car. So I am reduced to footing it and
      riding the bus and taxis in this land of the fee while I try to figure out how to recover my property
      or damages for its “theft”—an impossible dream if we really no longer have the rule of law.
      Those of us who have the wisdom to understand what is really going on need to start joining up with each other to help each other as we have the gift to share. As it is, I stand alone in Reno and I
      am an easy target to sideline. But, somehow, by the Grace of God, Pharaoh will have to let
      God’s people go.

      • Karolyn

        Well, everybody knows they have to have registration, dl and insurance card on them when driving. In my experience, most cops will give people a pass if local. I guess some cops have to keep their quota up.

      • Vicki

        Karolyn says:
        “Well, everybody knows they have to have registration, dl and insurance card on them when driving.”

        Why do we “know” that? Why do we accept the tyranny of the king when he demands our papers whenever his royal guard wants just because we choose to take our PRIVATE property from one place (say our home) to that of a friend?

        It’s called conditioning.

        “”Why should I agree to swap one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away?” – http://www.patriotresource.com/factfiction/events/page11.html

      • Karolyn

        Vicki – It helps to catch the bad guys. How many criminals have been caught by routine vehicle stops? I don’t know the number, but I hear of them all the time. I do think, though, that there are many cops that go overboard.

      • Vicki

        Karolyn says:
        “Vicki – It helps to catch the bad guys. How many criminals have been caught by routine vehicle stops?”

        Thus Karolyn freely admits she has no interest in the 4th amendment and really likes it when they ask “May ve see your papers please”.

        Bummer. There are now confirmed 2 major things that Karolyn and I disagree on.

      • Kate8

        Vicki – Sadly, Karolyn represents a wide swath of the population who believe that they can trade freedom for safety. She is falling for another one of tyrant’s oldest tricks.

        Free and honest citizens should not be subject to being treated like criminals. We have the right to live unmolested by government, as they are (supposed to be) there to uphold the Constitution and defend us against “all enemies, both foreign and domestic”.

        This is all for nothing less than absolute control over every aspect of life, up to and including who lives and who doesn’t. Not only will this NOT keep us safe, but will insure our demise, both personally and as a free society.

      • Deerinwater

        Hate* says, “Vicki – Sadly, Karolyn represents a wide swath of the population who believe that they can trade freedom for safety. She is falling for another one of tyrant’s oldest tricks.”

        I would come near believing Karolyn is not as afraid as you seem to be Kate.

      • Kate8

        snakeingrass – How sad that you attack me with such ugliness for the simple reason that I believe in freedom from oppression and desire for us all to all live without fear of governmental bullies.

        I’d say that says more about who and what YOU are.

        If you really think that it’s okay for us to be surveilled at all times, and attacked by drones because we want to live free, then may you be collateral damage when one is fires at your neighbor.

      • Deerinwater

        Kate8 says, “If you really think that it’s okay for us to be surveillance at all times, ”

        I’m thinking back, ~ I have a dear lady friend that felt that way ~ It was not obvious in the beginning that she was not well. It got to where, she had tin foiled all the windows in the house and taped over all the electrical outlets to keep people from peeping in at her. ~

        I never went back after that ~ I wonder what ever happen to her?

    • figmo

      Vicki , The states have held that operating a motor vehicle on their streets and highways is a “privilege” and not a right thus giving themselves the power to license and regulate it. As far back as the 1800′s our Supreme Court recognized a constitutional right to travel as being within the “penumbra” or shadow of the Bill of Rights. In Crandal v. Nevada the court struck down Nevada’s charging a fee to stage coach passengers crossing between Calif. and Nev. So we should have the right to travel on foot or by lawful public transportation (subject to being groped and floroscoped by TSA) or by lawfully operated private motor vehicle.

      • R.F.

        Then in order to avoid modern day licensing why don’t you just get your stagecoach out and travel that way. You’ll be helping the environment to boot.

      • vicki

        figmo says:
        “Vicki , The states have held that operating a motor vehicle on their streets and highways is a “privilege” and not a right thus giving themselves the power to license and regulate it.”

        Of course they have. Fox, here is hen house. Please guard.

        Your comment about “their streets…” is exactly why I call them the “kings” highways. They are supposed to be PUBLIC property. States treat them as their own (government) property.

  • independent thinker

    “This fact continues to be hidden by the mainstream media, which is under the control of the government.”

    Mr Livingston I dissagree that the mainstream media is under the control of the government. I believe that they are more than willing accomplices of the government. A technacality I know but that is what I think.

    • Warrior

      Or “intimidated” like Fox. The “true” truth tellers like Beck and Napolitano, silenced. The “apple cart” will be turned over and the “bad apples” will be disposed of. It is inevitable. See “History”.

      • realman

        and Sarah Palin

      • Bud Tugly

        Beck and his ilk are snake oil salesmen making fortunes by twisting truth into lies that play upon the fears of the ignorant.

        Beck never lets facts stand in the way of his vituperous diatribes.

        Beck only truth is about filling his wallet.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Heard a arab bought a big part of Fox, so no more fair and balance there either, the only ones who try to be are being punished so that the government controls all of it. Just like Hitler our own hitler is playing the same game as the first and since few know real history they are falling for it everyday. Obozo’s plans have really been Hitlers plans and the game plan is the same and if you read about Hitlers rise to power you would see that is what obozo is doing to this country. Wake up America or you’ll have to bow to the next Hitler and his nazi followers who I call cool-aid drinkers, the stuff must sure be sweet since it has destroyed the minds of the eddie teddy’s, right wing stinker, Jeromy, Karolyn and a few others who come here with their hitlerish idea’s and repukes of the moral people who come here telling the truth about them and their propaganda.

      • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

        Mainstream news media (PPC, PBS, NYT, LAT, CBS, etc.) and the mainstream science journals (Nature, Science, Proceedings of the Royal Society, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, etc.) have slowly joined forces with the unholy alliance of world leaders and leaders of the scientific community over the past 67 years since the United Nations was formed on 24 Oct 1945.

        Why ? To hide the empirical fact that world leaders are totally powerless over the Sun’s pulsar core [1].

        With kind regards,
        Oliver K. Manuel
        Former NASA Principal
        Investigator for Apollo
        http://www.omatumr.com

        [1] “The Sun’s origin, composition and source of energy”,
        Abstract 1041 , 32nd Lunar and Planetary Science Conf.,
        Houston, TX, March 12-16, 2001, LPI Contribution 1080,
        ISSN No. 0161-5297 (2001).
        http://www.omatumr.com/lpsc.prn.pdf
        http://xxx.lanl.gov/pdf/astro-ph/0411255

      • Karolyn

        Benjamin – What? Since when was Fox EVER “fair and balanced?”

      • Kate8

        Omanuel – That would certainly be the truth, but what does that mean to us? Why do you speak in cryptics?

        How does this information help us? I truly would like to know, because I don’t see how their being powerless over cosmic events stops them from continuing to further their diabolical plans. Unless something is about to happen to stop them.

        Please, tell us more.

      • Kate8

        So, Karolyn. Name one news outlet which IS fair and balanced.

        Please. Do tell.

      • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

        @ Kate8 February 11, 2013 7:03 pm

        Omanuel – That would certainly be the truth, but what does that mean to us? Why do you speak in cryptics?

        How does this information help us? I truly would like to know, because I don’t see how their being powerless over cosmic events stops them from continuing to further their diabolical plans. Unless something is about to happen to stop them.

        Please, tell us more.

        Humility before our Creator is required to return sanity to society.

        Please read and reflect on the information tabulated in: http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-2339 and
        http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about/#comment-2422

        1. Science and politics were fused together by the vaporization of Hiroshima on 6 July 1945 as tightly as religion and science were fused together in the time of Copernicus and Galileo.

        2. 6 Aug – 24 Oct 1945: Nuclear scientists released the source of energy that powers the Sun – neutron repulsion [1] – over Hiroshima on 6 Aug 1945 and world leaders responded by

        _ a.) Breaking their alliance with religious leaders
        _ b.) Forming a closer alliance with leaders of the scientific community
        _ c.) Establishing the UN on 24 Oct 1945 to save mankind from annihilation.

        3. 1946: The British astronomer, Sir Fred Hoyle, was compelled to write and publish misinformation about the Sun’s internal composition and source of energy [2]. Off-stage, he cooperated with another British author of science fiction – George Orwell – to warn the public that a tyrannical police state was approaching and would engulf society by “1984″.

        http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/

        4. 1946-2013 (a): World tyranny grew, except for a brief period in 1960-1963 when President John F. Kennedy seriously tried to stop this trend. The Apollo Space Program, the Bay of Pigs incident, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the assignation of John Kennedy followed.

        5. 1946-2013 (b): Precise experimental data and observations from the nuclear and space age showed that neutron repulsion in the Sun’s pulsar core is the creator, destroyer, and sustainer of chemical elements, lives and worlds in the entire Solar System: A volume of space larger than ten billion, billion Earths: >10,000,000,000,000,000,000 ! Earths

        6. Today – 12 Feb 2013 – as Barack Obama gives his “State of the Union Address” and seeks to conclude more than sixty-seven years of human engineering (Feb 2013 – Oct 1945 = 67.3 yrs), I encourage opponents of a one-world government to meditate, contemplate and pray for the integration (convergence) of science and spirituality.

        Conclusion: We are connected physically and spiritually to the Creator, Destroyer and Sustainer of lives and worlds at the core of the Sun. Fear of that source of energy [1] persuaded world leaders to insert, on 24 Oct 1945, the UN between mankind and the Creator that endowed us with inalienable rights to establish and/or abolish governments to protect our birthright to live happy, joyous and free, i.e., to enjoy Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

        With kind regards,
        Oliver K. Manuel
        http://www.omatumr.com/three_truths.pdf

        References:

        1. Oliver K. Manuel, “Neutron repulsion”,
        The APEIRON Journal 19, 123-150 (2012):
        http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V19NO2pdf/V19N2MAN.pdf

        2. Fred Hoyle, “The chemical composition of the stars,”
        Monthly Notices Royal Astronomical Society 106, 255-259 (1946);
        “The synthesis of elements from hydrogen,” ibid., 343-383 (1946)

      • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

        Kate8:

        Acceptance of reality is the answer to all of society’s problems today:

        A. We must humbly accept our place [1] in this beautiful, benevolent universe;

        B. We must admit powerlessness over the chain of cause-and-effect continuously flowing from the Sun’s pulsar core [2-5].

        1. “Being Right-sized in an Infinite Universe,”
        http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/Being_Right_Sized_in_an_Infinite_Universe.pdf

        2. ”Is the Universe Expanding?” The Journal of Cosmology 13, 4187-4190 (2011):
        http://journalofcosmology.com/BigBang102.html

        3. ”Origin and Evolution of Life Constraints on the Solar Model”, J. Modern Physics 2, 587-594 (2011): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/JMP20112600007_31445079.pdf

        4. ”Neutron Repulsion”, The APEIRON Journal 19, 123-150 (2012): http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V19NO2pdf/V19N2MAN.pdf

        5. “Yes, the Sun is a pulsar,” Nature (submitted 12 Dec 2012) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/Yes_the_Sun_is_a_pulsar.pdf

      • Charlie

        omanuel,,,
        With 2 horseshoe magnets ,trying to push like poles together is impossible by hand. Is that similar to Neutron Repulsion ? Because like poles repel and unlike poles attract…
        Thanks for your info… Meanwhile…………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about omanuel

        Yes, Charlie, neutrons repel each other as North ends of bar magnets repel each other.

        Protons repel each other as South ends of magnets repel each other plus there is Coulomb repulsion between the + charges on protons.

        A creeping US Police State in science for sixty-four years (2009 – 1945 = 67 yrs) before finally surfacing as Climategate in 2009 is the only explanation I have for misrepresentation of the internal composition and source of energy for the Sun.

        I have requested assistance from anyone else who has a better explanation.

        http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/Request_Assistance.pdf

        Dr. Kuroda was the first scientist to examine the ruins of Hiroshima in August 1945. He became my research mentor fifteen years later, in 1960 and assigned me the task of figuring out the origin of the solar system and its elements.

    • Daryl

      Please look at who holds a tremendous financial share in the media companies. I believe you will find that George Soros is the financial push and a huge invester. This came out a while back.

      • Sgt. York

        I feel you are correct and will ad this,Soros is a European raised in the Nazi time,saw how Hitler rose and in his stupid mind is thinking this is the time He will Rise to World Power. If O’Vomit tries to over power him he will be shortly found dead. Its Now World Power he is wanting. We as Americans Must Stand Up and Be Counted

      • Marie Saqueton

        You are right Daryl, the media is controlled by the “Elites” and we are just little people that do not have the power to defeat whatever agenda they want us to believe. The M/M is creating a bunch of idiots and pretty soon we won’t even know what hit us. People should read and research more than listien to the mainstream media. We are being programmed folks…..

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