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Band Of Sisters

February 6, 2013 by  

Band Of Sisters
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“From this day to the ending of the World
… we in it shall be remembered
… we band of brothers
.” – A quote from William Shakespeare’s Henry V as it appears in Stephen Ambrose’s Band of Brothers

On Jan. 24, the Administration of President Barack Obama lifted the ban on allowing women in U.S. military combat positions, granting full equality in combat for women.

It is a reversal of more than a 200-year-old policy that kept women off the front line in a combat role. It is pure politics and has zero consideration of the inherent and real physical differentials that exist between the sexes.

This is just the latest step in which Obama is kowtowing to a special interest group — in this case, feminists.

There’s just one problem: Women and men should have equal rights, but please don’t tell me they have equal physical strength.

I have been involved in athletics all my life as a participant and as a coach. Since I was a teenager, I have read everything I could about warfare. And I sat through as many lectures on the subject as I could when I was in school.

What mesmerized me the most was not what I learned in class but a talk I heard 15 years ago in New Orleans at the MoneyShow. It so happened I was standing next to my old friend, Personal Liberty Digest™ contributor Chip Wood. We were listening to Stephen Ambrose speak about his book, Band of Brothers. (This was a couple of years before the book was made into a TV miniseries by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks.)

The focus of the book and the miniseries is on the 101st Airborne during World War II. I came to understand the physical hardships they endured from their first day at boot camp until the final defeat of Nazi Germany.

On D-Day the men of the 101st were dropped behind German enemy lines at night, spread apart because of heavy flack fire and carrying up to 120 pounds in gear. So heavy were their packs and weapons that they had to be pulled to their feet and assisted into transport planes and gliders. They parachuted into the night sky, striking the ground at more than 10 miles per hour. This is where their physical strength came in.

There are strong women, but my personal experience is that women are not nearly as strong as men.

In the 1990s, I did a few bench press competitions. To win, a man had to bench 1.5 times his body weight one time. A woman had a different test; she had to push a barbell weighing one time her body weight. I saw scores of men do it but I saw only one woman complete it.

It is not just strength but also speed and endurance that separate the sexes. I will give you another anecdotal example. My son and his wife run at least four marathon races each year. My son runs the race in less than 2 hours and 50 minutes. His wife has a personal best of just more than 3 hours and 15 minutes. Yet my daughter-in-law places slightly higher against women competitors than my son does against the men.

If you are not convinced this is an absolute truth across the board, you have to answer a question: Why is it that in every athletic endeavor men are matched against men while women compete against women?

I’m not the only one who thinks there are physical differences between men and women. Margaret Wente of The Global Mail wrote this in an opinion piece following the Pentagon’s announcement:

Let’s get real. Women cannot equal men in ground combat, the kind of dirty, brutal stuff that (fortunately) makes up a very minor part of modern military life, especially post-Afghanistan. It’s not that they can’t be trained to kill – they can. The issue is that the physical differences between men and women are very large, and on the battlefield, they really matter, and can’t be wished away. Men are better fighters because they are bigger and stronger and can endure far more physical punishment before they break down.

… The average female soldier is “about five inches shorter than the male soldier, has half the upper body strength, lower aerobic capacity and 37 per cent less muscle mass,” Stephanie Gutmann, author of The Kinder, Gentler Military, wrote in the New Republic.

What do America’s ground combat leaders think? They probably don’t want to get into trouble with their political bosses at the Pentagon, but a few have spoken out.

The head of the Marine Corps, Gen. James Amos, went on record declaring he is skeptical about how women will perform in infantry units. He added some combat positions may end up being closed again if not enough females meet the rigorous, physically demanding standards.

Some GIs are worried that in order to incorporate women into combat zones, training standards may have to be downgraded. That would make American infantry forces weaker and put the lives of those who fight on the front lines in greater jeopardy.

At least the feminists are not worried.

“There’s no denying that this decision is a victory for women’s rights, another landmark in women’s hard-fought battle for equality,” gushed the Journal Tribune. “… Full equality has been the goal since the women’s movement began to see success with suffrage in 1920, followed by wider respect with their work on the homefront during World War II, a full-steam approach in the 1960s with birth control and sexual liberation, and a move into the workforce in the 1970s and ’80s.”

While feminists might see it as a step in the right direction, I doubt that the men serving beside smaller and weaker soldiers in foxholes and on the front line will be as thrilled.

I began by mentioning Band of Brothers. I am going to leave you with a line from the blockbuster 1992 movie A Few Good Men, spoken at the end by Col. Nathan R. Jessep (played by Jack Nicholson): “You… people… you have no idea how to defend a nation. All you did was weaken a country today… That’s all you did. You put people’s lives in danger.”

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    I have read that America and England are taking instructions from the Mossad. In Zionist Israel woman and homosexuals drafted into the IDF, Israeli defense / offense force. America’s military was structured like the early Romans or Swiss. Every man was going at his business and would put his plow up and take up his sword in time of need. There was a professional skeleton military who would organize the men in tme of need. The only time the military came together was for defensive purposes but, like America, that changed. Rome became a offensive force and died because of it. Men were suppose to be the protector of their women but today some women want to be equals to men. By nature a woman looks for security from men but to many men are more like buck deers. They use women to satisfy their own lusts and nothing more. This is causing women to take up a mans role. All the balances in nature are being destroyed. It’s interesting. At that point in time when we recognized how it was to be we were a happy people. Now? Fear and suspicion dominate our thinking to a point where we are ready to lash out at anything. The only solution, repent to god and start living life His way.

    • Wellarmed

      I agree with you Christian American that large standing armies do tend to be one of the indicators of a societies demise. One would think it would be the other way around.

      Not all women are wired the same, just as not all men are wired alike. I am pretty certain that the majority of women in our society would not wish to serve in a combat role, but I am amendable to women that are wired as alphas who wish to be on the front line so long as standards are not reduced to make that happen.

      I find it fascinating that you and many others are so concerned about shifting gender roles. I personally do not care if a person is male/female/black/white/tall/short/fat/purple etc…….. All I care is, can you do the job? Yes or No?

      That is freedom? No Blinders and eyes wide open. Anything less IS accepting defeat due to our inability to conform to changing circumstances on the ground.

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Freedom is a word denoting status, like serfdom, nothing more. There is a line in freedom, moral freedoms or liberty as a gift from God and immoral and amoral freedoms to perpetrate one self on anothers freedoms. We are free to decide how we will approach our freedom but they both have consequences. One Good, one bad. Nurses historically nurse men while men should be out in the field protecting their women. We’re both equipped to do our jobs. Of course we have to switch roles, but it should out of necessity, not as way of life.

    • Capitalist at Birht

      Your diatribe is difficult to understand. Your comparisons weak and without factual support.

  • Sam Francisco

    This is great news. My nephew is 5’6″ and weighs 125lb. Since he cannot run as fast as a marathon winner, nor weightlift like a 250lb bodybuilder, I guess he doesn’t have to serve in frontline combat. Oops, he’s already done 4 tours. Small persons, big persons, all have the ability to contribute. The Myers commentary is just oldboy BS.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      San Francisco, the young man is your nephew and you don’t know him or what he went through to get where he is in the military. Frontline combat designation does not mean that they are fighting and sniping 24/7/365, most of the time it is BS busy work and absolutely going out of their goards in boredom and social work trying to win the hearts and minds of the tribal chieftains doing the work the chieftains and their followers wouldn’t do for themselves for millenia.

      • eddie47d

        He seems to know much more about his nephew than you do Nadzieja! I’m sure if he’s done 4 tours he knows about the boredom.

    • Capitalist at Birht

      90% of the time a 5’6″ 125 Lb. male will be stronger quicker and have more endurance than a female of the same stature. Your point is? If you want our military to be weakened, can you explain why?. I am 5’9″ 175 lbs. and would not be concerned about a woman of the same stature if she attacked me. My hand eye coordination is far superior to 90% of women. You are insane to ignore the proven factual biological differences between the sexes. You need to move to a Democracy and leave this country NOW.

  • GRAMPA

    Because of our culture I among many of the men in this country have been brought up to see the female as the weaker sex. Is it always true? NO for I dont think I know of one man that could stand childbirth. Nature has designed the human body to excel in different areas. The logic behind a one person proficient in everything is impractical. If you are generally proficient at everything you excel at nothing. Is there women who could be proficient at battle? YES. I have known tradesmen(women) who could out work most men. Are all suitable for combat ? NO this would be a choice of the individual. The problems arise when culture training comes into play. Even if the woman was proficient and capable the tendency to “protect the weaker sex” could provide the hesitation the enemy needs to win the battle. Until the mindset changes toward women we will always have that moment that will decide a battle. The politically correct will call it sexist but it comes directly from the survival instinct to protect the family. It has been this way for four million years, it wont change because a few want it to.
    God bless America
    Grampa

    • Capitalist at Birht

      Evidently senility has set in. I’m sorry for you. Suggesting that men and women would be suitable to serve on the front line in the same units is pure insanity. Do you not understand the biological differences between the sexes?

      • Jimmy the Greek

        Your right ! let’s use this as one of the reasons , let’s say things are not going good and no one had a shower in a week . woman need to wash more than men because they well get rank real quick and quicker at that time of month lol , hell if she jumped into the same fox hole with 3 men and stinking to high hell they would chuck her out or they would have to jump out and risk being killed themselves LOL

  • Max

    The Israelis have been conscripting women for years! 51% of officers are women, they are sent into combat and such, and they have had no problems. Personally, I think it is ridiculous to have women in the military, train them for combat but not sending them to it. If they are not fit for combat, then they should be out of the military, not be freeriders

    • OneGuess

      Please do some research on the role of Israeli women in the IDF. You might be surprised…

      • Capitalist at Birht

        That is exactly what I have been trying to get these idiots to prove. What exactly the role of women is in the Israeli Defense Force. They haven’t answered my questions.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are comparing apples to oranges, Israel is Israel and has its own unique characteristics. On the other hand, America has its own characteristics and would not survive what Israel has to do for its survival.

    • eddie47d

      Okay One Guess what’s the SURPRISE?

      • Capitalist at Birht

        It is up to you to do your own research. Probably a new concept for someone who prefers to immerse himself in untruths and innuendo.

      • eddie47d

        The figures were posted above Capitalist so stop being the ignorant troll!

    • Jimmy the Greek

      The woman should be used for comfort girls , like the jap’s did LOL

    • no kidding screwball

      The military has many places for women and women can in fact be very helpfull to the military only keep them out of the front lines of combat. Israel has many women in the military but they are not in the combat zone with perhapps a few exceptions.

  • Jim

    It,s time to make women subject to the Selective Service Act and watch them change their tune

  • Di,Cerrillos, NM

    I see apples and oranges in this discussion. Smaller people would probably not be attracted to military or combat. Some folks just like to push on all doors that say ‘pull’. A person should evaluate their interests, strengths and weaknesses and choose a profession that matches and brings satisfaction. This should be the ‘right’, choice. There are tests that evaluate suitability. There are situations where distractions can result in danger to life, one in combat cannot allow distractions.
    Men and women exist, however, men have dominated this earth for generations based on faulty notions. We would not have combat if not for men and their faulty notions.
    Instead of trying to create a niche for women in combat, let’s END COMBAT!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are pretending to be a bright girl/woman. How do you end wars when wars have been here as long as humans have been here? There were smarter and brighter men in history who didn’t stop wars and in fact made them bigger and more deadlier.

    • eddie47d

      Then its time for you women to step up to the plate and make that difference. Change doesn’t come from accepting what was but what can be ! If women choose the wrong path in that endeavor God help us for we don’t need any more clones of the past warmongers.

    • Wellarmed

      Hello Neighbor, I agree that ending combat would be the ideal that humanity should strive for, but I also understand that the need to fight is embedded in our DNA as humans.

      Why man will always feel the need to dominate other men is one of the great unknowns that I doubt we as a species will ever take sufficient time to find the root cause of it’s necessity.

      As a VF in the district next to you, I have had the opportunity to enter burning structures along side women wearing the same bunker gear that I happen to be wearing. We practice techniques that allow for women to make up for the lack of upper body strength, but one should ultimately not discount the effects of adrenalin when one is faced with a life and death situation. I have seen men and women perform otherwise supper human feats that defy the physics of human anatomy when pushed into that corner of life and death survival. We DO NOT reduce our standards when training to meet anyone’s deficiencies. If they cannot perform their duty as needed they will be reclassified for different positions.

      I hope our U.S. Military takes the same path and recognizes that women who can meet the standard are given equal treatment and equal ability to die if they so wish.

  • Corkey

    Wow, the right to get your ass shot off and die in combat. Sounds like Bizzarro World Superman to me.

    You’ve come a long way baby !!!

    • Don 2

      The Democrats ‘War on Women’ has just taken on a whole new meaning.

    • no kidding screwball

      corkey, the way to shoot a woman’s ass is not with a gun!

  • FreedomFighter

    At least this will give the She-He a Amazon role, killing men, should make a few She-He’s very happy

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • nobodysfool

    When a woman is captured by the wild-eyed, opiate-crazed Afghan soldiers, the first thing they will do is take turns raping her. If she is still alive after that, they will extract any information she has, just before they cut her throat and yell, “Allahu Akbar!!” I would hate to be the president that has to say “oops” to her family as they wait on the tarmac for the body pieces to be delivered in their flag-draped box. But this president won’t care. He has fulfilled his pledge to his fellow homosexual push groups, and he has no concern of the consequences. Monarch-wanna-be’s are just that way.

    • Chester

      It seems that women are already being placed in the line of fire, but not as an official type order. Consequently, it does not show on their records that they were ever in any sort of a combat related rating. No combat rating, far fewer chances at advancement. Oh, and the Muslims have captured and/or killed a number of women in combat, just that it was long enough ago everyone here seems to have forgotten them.

      • Don 2

        Chester,

        And here I was foolishly thinking that war was about attrition rates and winning battles. Thanks to you, I now know that it is really about female career advancement in the military.

    • no kidding screwball

      Nobodysfool, did you vote for Obama??

  • TPS12

    I am not in favor of woman on the front line of combat but if that’s what woman want then for full equality they must sign up with the Selective Service at 18 just like men and meet all the physical requirements to be on the front line.

    Sometimes getting what you want may be more then you thought.

  • Michael E. Stroup (GySgt., USMC, Ret.)

    I like women, very, very much. I also think most if them are smarter than most men, except the women who want to give up a position of superiority for a position of equality. Anyone who wants to be a combatant in a war zone is insane. I know because I have been and was (still am). Women in combat? Name one world record for strength, endurance and/or speed held by a woman. That is the same number of women who should be in combat. Put another way, the same number of women should be in combat as the number of men who want to be pregnant and give birth. The women in combat thing is just another in an endless list of examples where government tries and fails to do things that it should not, paid for with a lot of money we do not have.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      GySgt., you believe women are smart, well guess what they are not. They are more cunning, devious, malicious and they know how to get around men. They have no intention of being in combat, they will let you men do the dirty work. They want the authority, the prestige, the pay and power over men. Try to reread Genesis and after the fall what character traits would come out in women.
      One woman can see through another woman, men just see looks and their brains shut down.

      • TheTruthHurts

        I’m gonna have to go all ‘ad hominem’ here.. youre probably the most ignorant person alive. Not to mention a bigot. Women are not smart?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        the truth hurts, if you are a woman you either don’t know yourself or deny what you are. If you are a “man” you don’t know women.

      • TheTruthHurts

        Yes, because every man is banging down the door of Sandra Day Oconnor & Sotomayor… Those sexy foxes! Lookin all hot & voluptuous in their robes… Oh and what about that young girl in Pakistan or I dia that was shot in the head? She’s not exactly Miss (India/Pakistan) is she… My hormones go into overdrive whenever I see that goin on

      • eddie47d

        Yes Nadzieja there are manipulative women just as there are manipulative men. Prostitution is mostly a lucrative business for men and a losing proposition for women (at least overall). The pimps get the big bucks and the women get screwed; pun intended! If women are so cunning then why are they the ones who are trafficked against their will. Why are there thousands of whorehouses for men but trying to find even one for women is rare? I don’t appreciate cunning men anymore than I would a cunning woman.

  • Charles D. Calhoun

    There is nothing to keep women from playing in the NFL. But you don’t see many playing.

  • Guest

    As a woman, I agree with the substance of this article.
    I am no feminist and regret the days of gentlemanly courtesies extended to women. And I bet many women feel that way.
    I also know that If I were in a fire I would prefer a man to carry me out than a woman.
    No matter what these feminists say, we are NOT equal, thank GOD!

    • http://CoyoteAmmo.com Rachel Keeling-Nash

      You are absolutely right. I have been a lineman (person) in my lifetime. I am NOT a lesbian, and I too miss chivalry in men these days. I have many weapons & KNOW how to use & maintain them, however I do not believe women should be on the front lines. YES, we are different, but that doesn’t make us any less of a human being, just different. Think of it this way, ” Would you want your mother on the front lines?”

      • TheTruthHurts

        Thats an inane question… I would not like to see my father, brothers, sister, girlfriend, cousins, aunts or uncles on the front line if not necessary… But if we all have free will & are able to choose what we want (so long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others), who are you (or anyone for that matter) to say who should defend themselves in combat? If my father were a doctor & my mother was a world class jiu jitsu champion, I wouldn’t want that woman to deliver medical care & I certainly would not want a doctor to be standing next to me when the choice is clear that a world class jiu jitsu champion could break bones left & right… The issue is not men vs women; its competency vs incompetency! There is not one person in the military (some officers excluded) who does not go through boot camp. My father, who pushed boot camp for 3 years in the Navy, saw many big, burly lumberjack type men cry & piss & moan, yet the scrawny, tenacious dude from Brooklyn smash through it,, laughing… so whats your point.

    • no kidding screwball

      to the lyiing guest, you are a faminist, thats why you rather be carried out by a man.

  • Cribster

    Islamists around the world are rejoicing over this decision.

    • no kidding screwball

      Yah man!

  • Tom Cook

    The innately inane feminazis won’t be on the front lines–typical of all liberals, they want some other woman doing the dirty work; they just want to set policy. Women are not evolved to be warriors. They are evolved to be nurturing. Men are evolved to fight. The feminazis have worked hard to sissify our society as Walter Williams has pointed out: “don’t hit.” I taught my four sons to give warnings and then not just to hit, but destroy. Bullies understand and hate pain. Feminazis are demented women. They wish to pretend that women have the equipment and hormones that men do. They do not.

  • dan

    The Spirit of Feminism is a large part of what has destroyed our country….
    but it’s been around since before Jezebel. I dare say it was around in the garden….

    • http://www.sweetsalesgirl.com/Kuurus/ Charles Johnson

      Lilith

    • no kidding screwball

      Ah Dan, who made you the expert on spirits. don’t you know you deserve a big boo from all the ladies?

  • jane

    women dont belong in the military,and im a woman ,i dont think these woman realize that if they get captured,they are going to go through hell,and why do women need more rights ?we have all the rights we need and then some,stay out of the military and stay home and take care of your kids,thats what you are meant to do,if you dont have kids get a job,but not in the military,you dont belong there

    • rendarsmith

      100% right. With affirmative action, quotas in the workplace, Title IX, the VAWA, women actually have more rights than men do.

    • TheTruthHurts

      …so if a man gets captured he won’t go thru torture? Wmen don’t ‘need more rights’… All humans have the same rights, remember that dusty parchment the Constitution, or Bill or Rights? What about women who don’t want a family? Or are infertile? Stay out of the military & wash dishes?

      • Capitalist at Birht

        Ignorance of biological facts is bliss. I guess?

      • TheTruthHurts

        Holy Hell! I just opened up a science book & there it is!! Bio 101! I just learned that every month a woman sloughs off the endothelial cells of her vag. Still doesn’t tell me that this should violate her inalienable right to self defense… Yet again, there are SOME men stronger than SOME woman, and there are SOME women stronger than SOME men… until you get this through your addled single track mind, you wont see the sun outside at noon on a clear summer day

      • Tom

        I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are being obtuse. Combat has nothing to do with self defense. The infantry is about killing people and breaking things. You go into combat to kill the enemy not to defend yourself from the enemy. There is no right to serve but a privilege. The U.S. discriminates against the fat, the small, the stupid and the criminals; just to name a few. Women are unfit to serve in ground combat forces and anyone who is honest knows this. Women want special treatment not equality or they would demand the same fitness standards. They are asking for an unfair advantage for promotion and other advancement by demanding access to combat arms with their low fitness standards. Equality means that all women must meet all standards not just the ones who think combat would be a good career move.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      jane, they want what they want when they want it so they don’t look beyond the moment of their feelings. Besides there will be men to bail them out and patch them up and when they are beyond being put back to duty they will get disability. All America will shed tears and offer compassion and support them till it gets bored with them and forgets about them.

    • no kidding screwball

      Jane, you got a good head on your shoulders, don’t never allow anyone to change that.

  • Lawrence Brown

    I think the answer is America does not plan to fight any War Man to Man or Face to Face??? Computers/Drones is the future!!!

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Lawrence Brown” – GREAT POINT.

    • nc

      Lawrence, If bush’s invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan did not show the folly of face to face combat I don’t what signs the military are looking for! WE killed them in the open field with our expensive technology and they killed us in the cities and mountains!
      Saddam remembered the long line of destroyed Iraqi equipment from the 1991 war fought in the open desert so when daddy’s boy bush came calling in 2003 and knowing he could not win in the desert Saddam lured him into house to house combat that negated 80%+ of our technological advantage!
      He fought the Crawford Cretin with the worlds greatest military times five to a stand still for the last 5 years of dumbbutts administration. with NO planes, NO tanks, No artillary , No helicopters, and No navy.

      bush, as chump-in-chief, could not win a war with all of that advantage in a country half the size of the state of Texas!! pitiful!! This is one half of the reason Obama is President! The other half was bush’s rotten economy!

      We paid dearly for our technology advantage! Let’s win with it and stay out of the streets!
      That’s also the best military for female “combatants”!

      • Capitalist at Birht

        i believe you are prejudicial in your analysis. How is it you know so much about what was in Sadam’s mind?

      • Hedgehog

        nc; if you “stay off the streets”, how do you obamanites expect to confiscate everybody’s guns? I’ll give you a hint, weapons of mass destruction (gas, radioactive dust, germs, viruses). Coming soon to a neighborhood near you. NOW go ahead and call me crazy, or a foreign troll, or whatever. Time will reveal who is the best guesser! Why do I post stuff like this? Because I’m a Canadian. Once Obama Augustus and the UN have finished you off, the border won’t stop him or them!

    • no kidding screwball

      Computers and drones can’t do it all. sooner of later you gota get your hands dirty Lawrence

  • joszsrepublicanpage

    Women have no place in front line combat during a war ,, if liberals want women to be killers let them form an all woman unit of lesbians and send them into battle .

    • eddie47d

      Are you smugly enjoying your insult about woman who are willing to put themselves on the front line and who can defend America as lesbians? Typical low brow Conservative comment. Are Israeli woman who defend their nation trivialized too? Woman have proven themselves many times over in real life as with any service member If they can’t hack it they need to kindly remove themselves from whatever branch they are in. ( Same with a man). Some Special Forces units are especially gruelling and plenty of men drop out and I suspect even more women will do the same if they attempt.

      • OneGuess

        It appears you really don’t know much at all about the role of Israeli women in the IDF. Better to do some research before showing your ignorance. Just saying…

      • eddie47d

        I suppose you also want to trivialize Israeli women! They have mandatory service for all women there and 69% are allowed to be in any job available including combat positions. Although only 3% choose to be in the front lines(combat positions) a whopping 51% have officers rank. Which means if the country is attacked they will ALL have to equally defend their nation.

      • Capitalist at Birht

        Please present the facts of Israeli women in combat. Can you please reference your sources that support your contentions, regarding this subject? I have never seen photos of Israeli combat troops that contain women, and I have seen hundreds over the last 50 years. Yes there is a very high percentage of the Israeli military forces that are women. Can you state factually what that percentage is and what your sources are please? I doubt that you even know, much less supply evidence. You are a Totalitarian blow hard, pure and simple.

      • Abinadi

        You are lacking in one FACT! Women WILL be given Special Treatment to get into the position. They Will NOT be required to be EQUAL! You are right though. There are some Men who Should not be in the Front Line Positions as well as Women who Should! And the Men who can’t pass the physical qualifications wash out. As I am sure some Women WILL Pass the phusical qualifications because they are lowered. And then put their WHOLE Unit at Risk!!!

      • eddie47d

        Capitalist at Birht (Birth)?; “Totalitarian blowhard”? I gave you percentages so maybe you are the “blowhard”! Look on any Israel Defense Front site if it behooves you. There are plenty of them. Try IDFinfo.co.il/service,or http://www.slate.com/women in Israel, (this one even states that 93% of all military positions are open to women) or Wikipedia.org/women in Israel .

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        eddie47d(onkey), as always your link lead NOWHERE.

        Veritas vincit – Truth conquers

    • no kidding screwball

      Now here is an intellegent thinker!!!

  • Warrior

    Why should males be the only participants on the battle field? In fact, I would think the u.n. should weigh in on this issue soon because the women of all countries should be allowed to kill not only men but their fellow female enemies as well. Now that’s “true” equality! FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Capitalist at Birht

      Surely you jest.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        C a B, Warrior is being facetious.

      • http://www.sweetsalesgirl.com/Kuurus/ Charles Johnson

        Don’t call him Shirley ;)

  • TheTruthHurts

    Ban all non-white men!! They’re not as smart! They’re not as strong! They don’t own land! They can’t vote! They can’t run for office!!

    What era are you living in?! How dense are you? What swamp rock are you living under?! Do you read any scientific literature? Have you ever seen women perform in competitive Jiu Jitsu, tae Kwon do, krav magna, Jeet kun do?! Take those gigantic horse blinders off your face! I know thousands of women that could wrap you up, choke you out, break your arm, rip your head off you scrawny neck.

    What a pathetic attempt… It’s articles like this that discredit your entire ‘libertarian’ movement. What a shame… Unless of course, this has been your goal all along…?

    • TheTruthHurts

      You quote Wente : “the average woman…” have you looked at population characteristics of Americans? 60%+ of Americans are overweight, that means the ‘average American”; but on the left hand end of the bell shaped curve there are people who are extremely fit, and on the right hand, people who are extremely fat… Same could be said about the ‘average woman’

      • ManUp

        Dillweed! We are talking about soldiers/marines/sailors/airmen. These people by definition are not physically average, at least not once they clear boot. As long as the same standards are set and those standards are not diminished to allow more gender diversity BS, I say let the women in those roles. BUT, politics being what it is, I suspect the standards will be quietly relaxed and that would be criminal due to the lives it will cost!

      • TheTruthHurts

        Thanks for proving my point.. perhaps instead of the name calling you should open a book & educate yourself… then you wont miss things that pass in front of that big fat nose of yours.
        If there is a physical fitness test, EVERYONE must pass it. Regardless of sex. The arguments on this sight are equivalent to people at Harvard complaining that intellectually handicapped people will start taking over the university as students/professors… They will NOT because there is a minimum “intellectual bar” set for Universities…

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “TheTruthHurts,”

        SINCE GRADUATE TEACHING-ASSISTANTS – SOME WITH MINORITY FELLOWSHIPS – ARE LIKELY TO INSTRUCT FRESHMEN AND SOPHOMORES AT LARGE UNIVERSITIES, I AM NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT, “intellectual bar.”

    • Don 2

      If I were an injured soldier inside of a tank, I’d sure hope that there were some men around with their superior upper body strength to lift me out.

      • Chester

        Don. if you are STUCK in that tank, you had best hope there is a skinny lady there who can get down in beside you and free up whatever is holding you. Oh, and by the way, there are women out there who can clean and jerk your weight or more, so lets not worry too much about upper body strength. It seems you don’t have to have bulging biceps to have a lot of strength in your upper body.

      • Don 2

        Chester,

        And how many of these women who can clean and jerk my weight and more, who are in the military, do you actually know? Names please.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Don 2,
        Irrelevant! In emergency situations when adrenaline has kicked in, woman have been able to lift cars to save their children. No one knows what any individual can do in any situation! There are strong heroic men and there are men who hide and cry. You cannot judge any individual based upon any other individual.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        MA’AM, I HATE TO CHALLENGE YOU; BUT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR INFORMATION ON A FEMALE LIFTING A CAR.

      • Don 2

        Nancy in Nebraska,

        Wishful thinking dear.

      • Nancy in Nebraska
      • Nancy in Nebraska
      • Nancy in Nebraska
      • Nancy in Nebraska

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterical_strength

        There are countless examples! Just google “woman lifts car off child”. These aren’t even the ones I’d heard of but I don’t want to spend any more time posting links. Look it up yourself if you don’t believe it!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Interesting article in “Psychology Today”.

      • Nancy in Nebraska
      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Oh and Don 2, don’t call me dear! I’m NOT your “dear”!!!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        MA’AM, I LOOKED AT YOUR LINKS – NO COMMENT.

      • Don 2

        Nancy in Nebraska,

        I didn’t call you “my” dear.

        Let me elaborate. Wishful thinking, reality bites. Upper body strength is what it is. If some gal wants to be cannon fodder for our tyranical dictator, go for it.

    • Capitalist at Birht

      Can you supply any factual data to support your contentions? I didn’t think so. The failure to ignore factual evidence will get you into trouble. Keep it up, You are so good at proving your ignorance. Tod deny the differences between men and women biologically is sheer folly.

      • TheTruthHurts

        Everyone of your posts asks to ‘back it up’… Do your own homework & prove I’m wrong…
        I do not deny that there are ‘average’ differences between men & women, however there are outliers, as in any statistic, that some are greater than others… What else would you like me to write to shut you up?

    • Incredulous1

      NBA, NFL, MLB … I don’t believe there are any “rules” saying no women allowed. Truth does hurt.

      • TheTruthHurts

        InredulouslyIgnorant1: you’re assuming you know why every single woman is rejected from playing professional male dominated sports (assuming one applied to play), which, unless you are involved in recruiting or some other aspect of ‘the game’, you have no base to stand on or make these suppositions… Maybe its bc there is no female football played competitivly at the HS or collegiate level… Yet again proving my point that it is competency/ability rather than, the player doesn’t have a penis

    • no kidding screwball

      The truth is you don’t know a single thing about the truth. Have You seen the accomplishements of Obama. He has the republic party wrapped around his little finger. He screwd the country left and right and he was able to deceived them and get reelected again. He waisted money like its water. are you gone tell me he’s stupid? I don’t think so, evil yes, but not stupid.

    • John Drohan

      I have to ask a question. Have you been through boot or any form of military schooling? (ROTC included. I went through boot in ’03, and I can tell you from the point of view of a person that HAS been there, the standards are all different. Before you start spouting the ultra feminist hate trip at me, I have several female friends that I know for a fact can probably kick my ass, along with most of the guys posting here, but this is where TheTruth must really Hurt. During the Black Hawk Down incident of the 90′s, the soldiers involved (admittedly Special Forces) had to not only carry their own gear and weapons, they also wound up having to carry the wounded to shelter to avoid further casualties. That must have been a very strenuos trip. If the standards aren’t improved for a female soldier, there is no possible way that she could lug a 220 lb. man onto her back and carry him upward of a mile under heavy fire to safety. If there is a group of 10 Rangers sent in, (5 male and 5 female) and half of them are mown down, and lets say that leaves 2 females and 3 males, and those 2 females can’t carry 200 pounds of dead weight, does that mean that 1 or 2 people will be left behind? Ultimately, that changes the landscape of what it is to be a soldier on the lines.Likewise, it is known that a woman has a much harder time dealing with elevated stress. I’ve seen some of the toughest and strongest women in the world cave under pressure and break down into hysterics. Sorry to tell you this, but on the battlefield, hysterics can and will cause deaths. The stress of combat is far from as simple as hollywood makes it out to be. You don’t watch people die from a distanced position. On the field, under heavy fire, you’ll be lucky not to wear the brains of the man next to you. Can you personally handle wearing the excessive amount of gore that a gunshot wound leaves behind from a person that may have saved your life. If you say it wouldn’t affect you, either you’re heartless or lying. The standard deployment is 1-2 years. Over that course of time, these people that you fight along side of are no longer just people you met. They become your “brothers in arms”. As long as the woman in question can meet the male standards, I personally say go for it, and make them sign up for selective service and all. Equal rights for all need to be equal or not at all.

  • http://none Susan

    God did not create women for combat situations.

    • rendarsmith

      Tell that to these feminists that pushed for women to be in combat roles (as long as it is OTHER women than themselves).

      • Nadzieja Batki

        rendarsmith, it does make sense when they look like men. Now gender is interchangeable, men can pass for females and females can pass for men.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nadzieja Batki,”

        POST-OPERATIVE TRANSSEXUALS STILL HAVE THE BIOLOGICAL MAKEUP OF THEIR BIRTH GENDER. HORMONAL THERAPY ONLY IMPACTS [PRACTICALLY SPEAKING], THE EXTERNAL APPEARANCE OF THE BODY. IN OTHER WORDS, A BIRTH FEMALE – WHO, NOW, HAS A MOUSTACHE/BEARD – STILL HAS A FEMALE’S LEVEL OF STRENGTH.

    • Doc Sarvis

      If that is the case then why have we been putting them into combat for so many years?

      • momo

        Women have never been in combat units, Sarvis, only support units.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I NEVER said they were in combat units. They HAVE been in combat though (several killed or seriously wounded).
        I would rather they not be in those situations. BUT since we are putting them into combat situations they should get rewarded as such.

      • momo

        Doc Sarvis says: “I would rather they not be in those situations. BUT since we are putting them into combat situations they should get rewarded as such.”

        I doubt women will think its rewarding once they’re in combat.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Currently, though they are put in combat situations they do not recieve combat pay, they do not receive the same chance for promotion, and do not get the same chance for battle field decorations. Still they are putting their lives on the line in combat.

    • Hedgehog

      Susan; you say that God did not create women for combat situations. I say, God did not create men for childbirth! My point is, as a man, I think we got the better of the deal! What was your point? To put it another way; to each according to their ability, from each according to their ability! To expect men, women, pygmies, midgets, transsexuals etc. to all meet some arbitrary standard, before they can engage in combat is ludicrous. The military is perhaps the last bastion of the “one size fits all mentality”.

      • http://www.sweetsalesgirl.com/Kuurus/ Charles Johnson

        That is because in combat a Team is only as good as it’s weakest member.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Oh, CHRISTOPHER! You are wrong! Hormones affect MUCH more than physical appearance! Hormones affect mood, emotions, stability, self control, you name it! I know this for a FACT!!! Ask any woman!!!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        AS ALWAYS, NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU, MA’AM.

        FOR FEMALE-TO-MALE TRANSFORMATION, PSEUDO-TESTOSTERONE INJECTIONS ARE PRIMARILY USED TO MAINTAIN EXTERNAL MALE CHARACTERISTICS. TESTOSTERONE INJECTIONS HAVE NO PRACTICAL IMPACT ON THE BIOLOGICALLY-GENERATED LEVEL OF STRENGTH. SO, A POST-OPERATIVE male IS A “PAPER TIGER.”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Nancy in Nebraska,”

        MA’AM, I FORGOT TO TYPE THAT EARLIER COMMENT WAS DIRECTED AT “Ms. Batki,” WHO MENTIONED GENDER-ROLE REVERSALS. “Nancy in Nebraska,” MA’AM, I DO NOT DOUBT YOUR INFORMATION REGARDING “LIFELONG” BIOLOGICAL FEMALES.

    • no kidding screwball

      Susan, your a lady that deserves appreciation!!

  • Doc Sarvis

    Women have been preforming in combat for many years, they just have not been recognized for that fact. Now they can get the recognition, pay, and chance for advancement that designation brings.

    • rendarsmith

      Ok Doc. So the physical qualifications for promotions are going to be the same then? The women have to meet the same standards as the men to get the same promotions right? Equality right? Women can do anything men can do, right?

      By the way, if women have been in combat roles, why are 98% of war deaths men? Just curious….

      • Doc Sarvis

        If women are not qualified to be designated as combat troops then why are we putting them in combat roles?

        You ask; “why are 98% of war deaths men? Just curious….” Uh, because there are far more men in those roles than women. It is just math and a little statistics.

      • Hedgehog

        Rendarsmith; it is all the fault of the officers. I can see a sergeant talking to his men over the body of a dead comrade, saying: “I told you guys duck!, duck!, a soldier that won’t duck won’t fight for long!”.” Then you people listen to some 90 day wonder that can’t tell a D from an F and this is the result!”.

      • Capitalist at Birht

        My advice is not to waste your time discussing any thing with Doc. He is nothing but a closed mind Totalitarian. Ask the Israelis what their opinion is of women in combat. I believe they have the highest percentage of women in the military in the world. Are there that many on the front lines. Check it out. I doubt that most American women will be able to pass the physical rigors to qualify. If they do, how do you combat the sexual tension that will surely exist and interfere with mission goals? Hmm?

    • rendarsmith

      What about selective service? Are we going to implement that for women too?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “rendarsmith” – FANTASTIC QUESTION.

      • Dorothy

        Let’s ask the larger question; what is the selective status of Barack Insame Obama?
        Why is it hidden? Why is his grandmother’s message about witnessing his birth, banned from Utube, and finally, why are the masses who voted to keep this lier in office so stupid? It is America’s funeral. The greatest nation on earth is the desire of every human, on every continent. WE are hated by the tyrrants who want the world to be in total discord against truth. Oh well, prepare to re -live the haulacaust!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        rendarsmith, I believe that is the purpose and intent of this whole thing!

    • Abinadi

      Then!!! Since this has passed, and has become an issue of “EQUALITY” then there should be the EXACT same Standards. Height, Weight, Strength, Endurance and Intelligence for Said Positions?!?!?! I have been military since the early 80′s, ALWAYS standards have been less for women. Lets Put EVERYBODY on the same “Level” playing field. NO more Complaining. If you can past the requirements you get the position, pay and treatment?
      As for ‘MY” opinion on the matter. This will Destroy the Military from within. Just as the Woeful One Wants!.

    • no kidding screwball

      Doc, pound by pound, training by training you put a man and a woman in a fight and the woman will loose everytime and that is just nature at work and none of us can ever change that. this does not mean that women are inferior, in facat they are superor in other ways where men would fail but not in combat. stop being stupid about it there is just no way and no lady would want to be in combat anyway.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Its a tough one. On the one hand I was raised with the view that man must protect woman. That a brother or father or husband must protect their sister or daughter or wife. On the other hand my mother and sister were both strong independent minded women. So I respect a womans ability to choose for herself. But if they are in trouble I still jump in to help. The best I figure is training. If anyone man or woman can with stand the physical training that is necessary to join any branch of the armed forces I figure they should have what it takes to be put into a fight. I don’t know anything about said training. But from what I hear from my marine and army and navy friends it doesn’t sound like something for the feint of heart.

    • TheTruthHurts

      So, just to get this straight,women cannot defend themselves or their loved ones? It was also popular thought back in the day that women weren’t smart enough to hold office or own land, or a high ranking job

      Keep pushing that ‘misogynist’ button

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Women cannot defend themselves and their offspring. It takes thinking and calculation to injure or kill a human predator. Only in rare cases have women done so and those are the case scenarios that are written and glorified in history. Reality has always been different.

      • WTHisgoingon

        Its true. Look at Hillary Clinton. As Head of State, she couldn’t even save our Abassodor + 3 at US Consulate in Benghazi. I still blame Obama, but he appointted Hillary.

      • TheTruthHurts

        Reality check: please bing/google “mother defends children with gun home invasion”, “decorated women veterans”… wow! You might want to recheck your pulse

      • WTHisgoingon

        yeah, but now your pres is going to take her gun away. oh no…….

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “TheTruthHurts” – I AM NOT SO SURE THAT THOUGHT IS STILL, “back in the day.” THE EXISTENCE OF THIS ARTICLE IN 2013 INDICATES MANY MALES ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH ALL TYPES OF FEMALE LEADERSHIP.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “TheTruthHurts,”

        I THINK THE “GIST” OF THIS PORTION OF THE DISCUSSION IS, THE NURTURING NATURE OF FEMALES – WHO MAY ONE DAY BE MOTHERS – IMPAIRS THEIR ABILITY TO SPONTANEOUSLY “GO FOR THE JUGULAR” IN A MURDER SCENARIO.

        I BELIEVE FEMALES ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSTANTLY KILL IN A DOMESTIC SITUATION – i.e., AN ABUSIVE HUSBAND/BOYFRIEND, OR, AN ATTACKER. BUT, WHEN IT COMES TO MURDERING A STRANGER – SIMPLY BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD THEM THAT THIS PERSON’S (OR, THESE PEOPLE’S) IDEOLOGY IS DIFFERENT – FEMALES WILL HESITATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO DIRECTED, NOR, INTERNAL FEELINGS OF HATRED FOR THE OPPOSING FIGHTER.

      • TheTruthHurts

        WTH: he is not “my pres” any more or less than he is “our pres”…
        TTIM ALLEN WHOSIWHATSIT: nobody care “what you think”; you are clearly half-educated & certainly have little insight into any type of human praxeology/psychology, or anything else for that matter.. the fact that “men are still uncomfortable” proves the point that mysogeny is well & alive in America.. sorry to step on your little prick

      • Dorothy

        We know that women are smart enough to do a job as well as a man. The real problem is as large as the nose on their faces; women have a monthly cycle.What can they do in combat, when there is no place to change or deal with the events of menstration. Let’s get real here. At what point can a strong woman handle the hand to hand combat and the strength of any male on any continent. This was another idea that sits well with Obama’s plan to overthrow America. Kill off the population of women to decrease the numbers, kill as many babies in the womb to further decrease those numbers, and further devide the country with increasing decent on all issues that separate us. HE knows what he is doing, and Americans are dumb enough to believe it. Americans are under strong, Godless delusions. It won’t take long. Soon we will be looking at a world dictator. There is no where to run and no where to hide from the destruction of civilized, democratic existence. The Anti-Christ has appeared and is working full time to destroy freedom and launch terrany!!!

      • Average Joe

        To add to what Dorothy said… Women, High capacity weapons, PMS…What could possibly go wrong?

        AJ

      • http://aol CommonSense4America

        @ average Joe: Just send in a platoon of women with PMS and the war is won.

      • MD spouse

        LOL! There can be some truth to that… Send the enemy a platoon composed entirely of crabby, angry, irritable, well-trained women together on a mission to protect the homefront, and watch the big boys try to figure out what just hit them!

        Seriously, there’s an old saying among hunters that it’s wiser and safer to chase male game because a wounded male will try to run away, whereas a wounded female will switch instantly into full bore kill mode and attack. And what’s that saying about never stepping between a sow and her cub? There’s no comparable warning about stepping between a boar and his offspring! The readers who comment that females ‘aren’t psychologically capable’ of fighting or killing are evidently not familiar with women. It depends upon the individual and the circumstance. Females, in general, are less easily aroused to kill – true – but more likely to kill once the threshold has been crossed.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Average Joe, I love your comment! Funny, but true! As to the real topic at hand, there ARE women who could and would do the job. However the vast majority could not and would not! The thing that I fear is that this is just part of a scheme to include women in the draft! Once you’ve set a precedent that women can do it, you’ve opened the door to the government requiring women to do it! Look at where feminism has gotten us. In the 70′s we fought for equal pay. All we accomplished was having most men’s pay lowered to the level we were at! The fact that some women wanted to succeed in business meant that women who wanted to stay home and nurture their children were despised and degraded. When I was in my 20′s, in thought feminism was right and that things should be “fair”. As I’ve grown in years and wisdom I have come to believe that the whole thing was a scam to tear apart families and wholesome traditions. I believe the the plot and plans of the globalists (the illuminati, the elite, the bankers, whatever you want to call them) is to destroy our country. The way they are doing this is by destroying the family, having government raise and teach our children, taking truth from the churches and removing GOD from our culture and by teaching everyone that human life has no value! In addition I believe that it is their intent to reduce the population! There is no better way to reduce population than by war!!! I was stupid and naive when I was in my 20′s and thought that women’s lib would bring us equal rights. All we’ve accomplished is the removal of rights for everyone! Be careful what you wish for!!!

      • MD spouse

        You can largely thank Phylis Schlaffley – a dumpy church marm with a huge chip on her shoulder – for gumming up the works for most of us. We were well on our way to an Equal Rights Amendment, greater respect and a well-enforced Equal Pay Act with the Republican party as the champions. Then she got involved and started jamming the gears into reverse by spreading fear and lies about how letting women out of the cave would lead to humanity’s downfall. Oh, and let’s also honor the Great Society ideals that started paying people (women AND men) to fail. Our problems have multiple causes.

        By the way, who is telling you that you have to work, you have to forego having a family, you have to give up religion, or you have to do (or not do) as you see fit? Is anyone forcing you to live a life that you reject? Or could you be confusing your dislike of the message, with someone holding a gun to your head?

        I think a common enemy are the meddlesome ‘do gooders’ of every stripe who tell us that those who work and support society, have to support those who aren’t willing to take care of their own. Perhaps if we tackled that monster, some of the other issues would resolve themselves and we could stop fighting each other.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        The Truth Hurts: I never said women cannot defend themselves. I was just taught that a man should protect women in his life in the sense of a husband should protect his wife and an older brother should protect his younger sister. It wasn’t that I or my dad or the men in my family were trying to be misogynistic. Its just the ancient male instinct to protect. And like I said my mother and sister are strong women. They could protect themselves. I simply said if they ever need me I am there for them.

      • no kidding screwball

        there is nothing about the truth that needs to hurt. the same GOD that made men also made women and each is special its own way save for sin.
        Now the problem we have is to many people don’t accept themeselves for what they are so then they come out with all kinds of Idiocy.

      • APN

        Depends on what day of the monthly cycle. Most real women will agree that certain times of the month the brain just don’t function properly. Now, put that “unknown” factor in combat and see what results you get. Let’s see here, Susie is our our commanding officer in the heat of battle and she is suffering from PMS. I wonder if her brain will work quickly and efficiently to make SNAP decisions in the heat of battle?

        The stupidity of the “daycare mentality” in America boggles the adult mind.

        Bottom line, It’s the “progressive” stupid!

        PS> Don’t get me wrong, I think we MEN should DEMAND women in combat. NOW!!!!!!
        Suit’em up, train’em up and then kick their butts off the back of a C130 right in the
        middle of a firefight, just like we men……NOW THAT’S EQUALITY! But let’s get real
        here for a second, the progressive women just want to be in charge and tell us ole
        dumb stupid men how to fight and then she can get on NBC or some other
        government controlled network and get a BIG STAR pinned on her chest, for
        “Bravery!!!”.

    • Dan

      I agree with you, the only problem is will our leaders lower the training standards because women cant perform at that high of a capability… If they do then the training is null and void… If they don’t and only let the women that reach that mark fight on the front line then by all means i support it… However if i was sitting in a fox hole with a women, I have to wonder if i would be more concerned with her safety then i would be at fighting the “war”. The bigger question is can you train the men fighting beside these women to act the same way they would if it were a man next to them in a fox hole. As you said alot of men are raised as they should be the ones to protect women no matter how you know her…

      • Jeremy Leochner

        With enough will power and self discipline a woman could get through the training at the same level as a man. I am pretty sure will power and discipline is the key regardless of gender. And in the middle of a fire fight I am sure you would want to look out for any member of your team man or woman.

      • Tom

        Spoken with all of the confidence and wisdom of an armchair warrior. Willpower and determination are key elements in being successful in the military but strength and stamina are also fundamental. Equipment, ammunition, food and water weigh the same regardless of gender. However, women enjoy lower fitness requirements in all of the services. Women are granted this due to the fact that they don’t serve in ground force combat units. If women want equal opportunity then they must earn it the same way every male does; meet the male fitness standard. I will guarantee that the overwhelming majority of women, around 99%, do not want equality in the military.

      • CZANKA

        I AGREE W/YOU. MY OLDEST BROTHER IS A RTD USAF COLONEL, WAR COLLEGE & PENTAGON WHO HAS STATED THAT MOST WOMEN COULDN’T CARRY A MAN ON HER SHOULDER/BACK VERY FAR BC THEY LACK UPPER BODY STRENGTH; THAT THE MALES HAVE & THAT MEN DO HAVE THAT WILL TO SAVE WOMEN FROM DANGER WHICH COULD JEOPARDIZE EVERYONE’S SAFETY! HE THINKS WOMEN PILOTS ARE NOT GROUND FIGHTERS & HAVE AN ADVANTAGE UNLESS THEY’RE SHOT DOWN & CAPTURED BC THE ENEMY DOES VERY HIDEOUS THINGS TO THEM. THE COMMENTS ABOUT LATRINES/SHOWERS & PERIODS ARE VERY TRUE AS ARE PREGNANCY ISSUES. IS BIRTH CONTROL FORCED UPON THEM. HE & I WATCHED THAT VIDEO W/DEMI MOORE BECOMING A NAVY SEAL. HE THOUGHT MOST OF IT WAS TRUE BUT HE DOUBTED THAT THE AVERAGE FEMALE FLYING A WIRE W/HER PACK & AN INJURED SEAL W/HIS PACK ON HER PACK WAS A MIS-LEADING JOKE. I THINK WOMEN ARE POWERFUL WARRIORS!! AND THEIR SKILL LEVELS SHOULD NOT BE TESTED IN GROUND COMBAT. IF THIS IS A REAL DETERRENT TO PROMOTION, DIFFERENT STANDARDS SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE!! CZANKA.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Tom I admit I am an arm chair warrior. I agree with you that women should have to meet the same physical requirements as men. But I believe that strength and stamina know no gender distinctions if the will and discipline is there. And men and women are equally capable of having will and discipline.

      • no kidding screwball

        Dan, the problem is not in the training. The problem is women have no place in combat.
        When God made women, God put some differences in them cause God wanted it that way.
        If the leaders will ever grow up they will let God be God, let men be men and let women be women and everything will fall into place so long as there is respect in out society

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Say what?

      I agree with Jeremy…

      • Dan

        Just to clarify… I honestly believe 100% that a or any women is capable of making it through the training and fighting (& kicking butt) on the front lines! I just don’t want to see the training “get easier” so more women can make it through… We all know how our government is, if the majority can’t pass the test then they usually make it easier….

    • pops

      Back when I was in basic we had to carry a sevety pound pack, as well as a weapon, steel pot and miscellaneous gear twenty miles. There was a guy in my unit who weighed 120lbs and he(somehow) was able to do it. I don’t think anyone with the heart to pass that and all the other neccessary physical teast should be ruled out because of their gender. Also, the author misses an important point completely. Infantryman is just one of the many combat roles that our military has. While it is important, and upper body strength is always an asset there are many roles that don’t require much. Smaller people are at an advatage in armor units a woman’s size and makeup make her a better able to handle g forces as a pilot. In my untimate role as a field artillery forward observer I was never expected to kill anyone with a rifle or hand to hand. In a stand-up fight we could rack up much higher casualties with a radio and the artillery behind us than any grunt on the ground. A woman could fufill that role. The reality is that in the 21st century you can cause more death and destruction with a rocket launcher, a helicopter, the controls of a drone, or yes with a radio and some howitzers then you can with a rifle and brute strength.

    • Lee

      Jeremy I hear what you are saying. I was in the Army and was in Iraq twice, and I believe that women for the most part are capable of serving side by side with a man. The reason I don’t think they should be on the front line is… Women physically have to be clean in certain areas or infections may occur(when I went to Iraq during the actual war I went atleast 30 days with out a shower, we went through alot of baby wipes though). And the other reason is just what you were saying about your mom or sister…… If a brother in arms went down in the battle field when you were under fire as hard as it would be you could leave him untill you could get to him with out being shot down yourself. But if a women got shot, for a man it would be (or should be) instinct to go and save her. Now you have 2 people shot and the enemy knows more will come.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I AM 5’3″ IN HEIGHT. I WEAR AN EXTRA-LARGE SHIRT. I WEAR SIZE 36″ PANT [28" INSEAM]. AND, I WEAR SIZE 6.5-EE SHOE. AS A NEGRO – TECHNICALLY SPEAKING – I AM CLASSIFIED AS, pygmoid. I HAVE A “RUNNER’S-TYPE” BUILD. I WEIGH 185lbs. BEFORE FIFTEEN YEARS AGO, I LIFTED WEIGHTS THREE-TIMES WEEKLY; AT THAT TIME, I WEIGHED 200lbs.

    EVEN THOUGH I AM A “LITTLE GUY,” I WOULD HAVE CAPABILITIES MORE SUITABLE FOR COMBAT THAN, FEMALES.

    • FreedomFighter

      Some women make good snipers.

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        THAT WAS COOL!, “Freedom Fighter.”

      • momo

        The Soviet Union used women as snipers during World War II.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        momo, I have personally seen photographs of the Russian women soldiers in the photograph collections of the emigres from the Ukraine, Poland, etc., the emigres who escaped from Europe before WWII. But then the Russians were very “civilized”, their women worked hard in the fields and in construction and in factories, so they did all the things the New Women in America want.

      • http://www.sweetsalesgirl.com/Kuurus/ Charles Johnson

        I was thinking Tunnel Rats, their smaller size would be perfect.

      • MD spouse

        I agree! Whatever fits, and whatever the individual woman is moved by and capable of doing. There aren’t likely to be many female Tunnel Rats, but ‘unusual’ isn’t the same as ‘incapable’.

        Any guy who would reject being helped by a qualified and willing woman, deserves be sent directly into the enemy foxhole sans a rife.

        Same for any woman who would complain about being helped by a capable and willing male colleague.

      • no kidding screwball

        I a woman knows how to bake the best place for her is in the kitchen. this is not a put down, it is quite honorable to be a good cook and usually women make better cooks than men.

      • pissed of & liberal

        Honey your not the better cook because your a WOMEN your the better cook because your man has no incentive to PRACTICE annonce your only cooking for yourself and watch him improve!

      • my 2¢ worth

        Question is.. “How much strength does it take to pull a trigger?..”

      • bandit

        It is to the point the guys are having a real hard time with the weight of equipment, so DARPA has an exo-skeleton and …

        See http://www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/15824

        Quote:
        The warfighter who carries up to 100 pounds of equipment on his back is expected to get relief from the cumbersome weight. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency’s (DARPA) semiautonomous Legged Squad Support System (LS3) robot will carry 400 pounds of warfighter equipment, walk 20 miles at a time, and act as an auxiliary power source for troops to recharge batteries for radios and handheld devices while on patrol.

        Now in trials, the “pack mule” robot might have numerous functions, but its primary responsibility is to support the warfighter. And as the weight of their equipment has increased, so have instances of fatigue, physical strain, and degraded performance. Reducing the load warfighters carry has become a major point for research and development because the increasing weight of equipment has a negative effect on warfighter readiness.

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        This was developed at Boston Dynamics. Just search for that on Youtube for a couple-year-old video. They do have to make the thing quieter…

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