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Hey, Phil, Move To Florida!

February 1, 2013 by  

Hey, Phil, Move To Florida!
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Golfer Phil Mickelson owes the State of California $8 million in taxes on his 2012 earnings.

Pro golfer Phil Mickelson (known as “Lefty” to friends and fans) backed into a buzz saw when he said he might make some “drastic changes” about where he lives. Thanks to the confiscatory taxes he and his family will now be paying, he said he was even considering moving out of the People’s Republic of California.

Apparently, a whole bunch of folks thought it was shockingly insensitive of him to mention how much he pays in taxes, when he pulls in 20 times more money a year than the average worker earns in a lifetime. After a media firestorm erupted, he apologized for his remarks, saying that “finances and taxes are a personal matter” and that in the future he wouldn’t say anything about them.

According to SI.com, Mickelson’s total income last year, counting prize money, endorsements and appearance fees, came to $60.7 million. Even though his tax rate is more than 60 percent, that still leaves him a net of about $24 million. The media mob let it be known that, with that much moola, the acclaimed golfer should sit down, shut up and be glad he could pay the piper.

Strangely enough, there was very little criticism of other all-star athletes who fled “The Golden State” long before Mickelson suggested he might do such a thing. Tiger Woods moved from California to Florida in 1996, the year he turned pro. He said last week that the difference in State tax rates had a lot to do with his decision.

In the early 1990s, tennis greats Serena and Venus Williams also moved from California to Florida, where there is no State income tax, so that the sisters could train. I don’t remember anyone raking them over the coals for doing so.

Back when these pros moved out, the top marginal tax rate in California was 9.3 percent. Today, it’s more than 40 percent higher. At the prodding of Governor Jerry Brown, the State Legislature last year raised the State’s grab to 13.3 percent. And what’s more, lawmakers made the new rate retroactive to all of 2012.

So Mickelson has an $8 million incentive to wave goodbye to California’s golden shores — or almost. The State revenuers are going to nail him on his 2012 income, no matter what he decides now. But looking ahead, it sure would make sense for him to head for more hospitable climes. After all, Woods has saved an estimated $100 million by moving to Florida, a State that doesn’t tax income at all.

By the way, it’s not just all-star athletes who are fleeing from California’s great tax grab. The Wall Street Journal reports: “About 3.5 million Californians have migrated to other states over the past two decades.”

Of course, professional athletes have a huge advantage when it comes to moving to tax-friendly environs. Their jobs don’t depend on where they live. That’s not true for most of us, where moving to tax-friendly climes would require finding new employment.

It isn’t just California that takes a double-digit bite from its residents. According to the Tax Foundation, other States with a tax burden of 10 percent or more on its residents are: Arkansas (10 percent), Connecticut (12.3 percent), Hawaii (10.1 percent), Illinois (10.2 percent), Maine (10.3 percent), Maryland (10.2 percent), Massachusetts (10.4 percent), Minnesota (10.8 percent), New Jersey (12.4 percent) and New York (12.8 percent).

If you live in one of those high-tax States, maybe it’s time to do what so many professional athletes have done and consider heading elsewhere. Here are the seven States with that assess no tax on income: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. We should probably add New Hampshire and Tennessee to the list, since those States tax only dividend and interest, not salaries.

Golfers seem to prefer Florida, probably because of the huge number of superb golf courses in the State. Many professional baseball players head to Texas. And Las Vegas is home to a number of top-ranked tennis players.

Despite its tax advantages, I haven’t heard of many professional athletes who decided to make Alaska their home. That’s understandable; they’d not only face some pretty fierce winters, but also one heck of a commute to every match.

We’re All Losing Economic Freedom

Yes, moving from a high-tax State to a low- or zero-tax one will leave you with a few more pennies in your pocket. But we need to remember that the biggest tax bite, by far, comes from Washington. And there the news is not encouraging.

Thanks to the horribly misnamed American Tax Payer Relief Act of 2012, about 99 percent of taxpaying Americans will see their taxes go up this year, not down. Every wage earner in the country will be subject to a higher payroll tax. Federal taxes on incomes of more than $400,000 will climb to 39.6 percent. Add to that a surtax of 3.8 percent on investment income, thanks to Obamacare, plus a hike of .9 percent in Medicare taxes on wages of more than $200,000. High-income earners will also be subject to new limits on itemized deductions.

These are just some of the reasons why the United States has once again lost ground in the annual Index of Economic Freedom that is compiled each year by The Wall Street Journal and the Heritage Foundation.

The index is based on the theory, first promulgated by economist Adam Smith in his 1776 classic The Wealth of Nations, that “when institutions protect the liberty of individuals, greater prosperity results for all.”

So how is the United States doing in protecting the liberty of its citizens? As you might have guessed, not well at all. In the latest rankings, we lost ground in monetary freedom, business freedom, labor freedom and fiscal freedom. As a result we’ve fallen to 10th place in the index.

Which countries rank at the top? There’s no real surprise that Hong Kong is No. 1, Singapore No. 2 and Switzerland is No. 5. But we’ve been passed by several countries we used to lead, including Australia at No. 3, New Zealand at No. 4 and Canada at No. 6. The three other countries above us in the top 10 are Chile at No. 7, Mauritius at No. 8 and Denmark at No. 9.

So, Phil, if you’re looking to lower your State tax bill, come on down to Florida. You’ll find many of your peers are already here, enjoying low taxes and good weather all year long.

But if you really want to increase your economic freedom, I’m afraid you’ll have to leave our borders. Do you even know where Mauritius is? Or what sort of golf courses they have there?

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • http://roberttitle.wordpress.com roberttitle

    The IRS should be abolished (it was never fully Constitutionally approved to begin with by the states) and a small federal sales tax (as we now pay at the gas pump) should be installed which exempts food and all medical costs. It would be easy to implement as the matrix is already in place…all retailers would collect at the point of sale, escrow the federal tax at their bank and then send to the Treasury Dept. monthly.

    • Texas Ride

      I am wondering when business owners became “tax-collectors” working as employees for the government.,

      • http://roberttitle.wordpress.com roberttitle

        You are basically an “employee” {your term} by having to fill out or pay someone else to fill out your tax forms. The law says it’s voluntary, but of course that’s just another govt. lie. It would be easier with an automatic (it would be built in to the and added just like happens now with a state sales tax) register that would render a receipt (just as you get now). That makes you “less” of an “employee” than you are now! Get it? If not, I can’t explain it further, because we’re already at the lowest common denominator in this discussion.

  • toledojim

    Phil has nothing to apologize for. He worked hard to develop his talent and he’s being rewarded for it. Do any of you play golf that are commenting here, specifically those who disagree with him? I play golf — been doing it for over 40 years — and am nowhere near as good as he is. It’s a social game for me, not a money-earner. I appreciate the talent he has. I wish I could shoot 60 on a par 71 golf course. Maybe I’d have one-tenth as much money as he has.

    Also, when Phil endorses a product, like any other athlete or celebrity, he helps sell product that keeps people employed. I’m sure the other infamous California nutcase, Pelosi, would disagree with me on that fact and try to convince me that unemployed people do more to keep people working than Phil does. Tell me Nancy: how many concerts have you seen in the past four years? I’m sure it’s many more than I’ve seen lately.

  • Defender

    What is tiresome to me is people like Phil, who make a heart-felt and honest complaint about the government stealing his money, then turns around and apologizes for telling the truth! He is only saying what millions of people think anyway. Why not just be bold, be courageous and stop with the back peddling just because somebody who is bound up in the ‘political correctness syndrome’ told you to retract the truth for bull crap. He allowed himself to be bullied and that is unacceptable if we are to be victorious in the battles that are before us.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bassnase Brennen Nase

    Theft is theft, I don’t give a [expletive deleted] how much you make. Theft is theft. MOVE PHIL.

  • Charles

    Illinois has been demanding that I pay them extortion on the money I earned a year before I came here. My suggestion to anyone contemplating coming to Illinois, even for a visit, is: STAY AWAY. The criminals will find a way to extort money from you.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    People like him worths are determined by us. If we didn’t consider him the idol we do, he wouldn’t be getting the money that he does. What’s the matter with devulging it? The same opportunity he has taken advantage of is open to us. God created people equal. He didn’t say we’d all have the same equity. In an involuntary socialist state, (Government takes the people’s wealth and distributes some of it at the governments pleasure) like the one we live in, people feel they are entitled to the fruits of another mans labors. By a large majority most people think that way. That’s not the America the Founders created. In the original America, Americans were willing to take lifes lumps so they could enjoy the rewards, without wondering when their neighbor would at their door with an IRS man.

    All heart felt beliefs, religions, except Christianity, think the involuntary socialism way but all the other religions actually practice two class societies, lords and serfs. “All people are created equal but some people are more equal than others”. In case you didn’t know, Obama and his ilk are more equal than the rest of us. Only in true Christianity will you find voluntary socialism practiced. Voluntary socialism means the people take care of their own, without the government being involved. Read and believe John3:16 while you still can.

    • Catherine B

      All members of Christ’s community were required to give up all their personal possessions to the group, to be used by anyone in the group as needed. I believe that is the current definition of communism.

      Our Founders established a mechanism in our government, when they designed it, for the federal government to levy and collect taxes to be used for the common good.

      Oh, tea-partyers, read your history. The Boston Tea Party was a protest against paying a tax on tea that was imposed by the British Parliament, where the American colonies did not have voting representation. THEY WERE NOT PROTESTING PAYING TAXES!!!!! They were protesting NOT HAVING A VOTE on whether or not to pay taxes.

      If they had a vote in Parliament, they would have been outvoted, but they would have had a say, and then they would have paid the tax. They were not crazy people like today’s Tea Party loonies. They were sensible, educated, sophisticated people, like the kind you can’t stand among your fellow citizens today.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Catherine B,

        You write: “All members of Christ’s community were required to give up all their personal possessions to the group, to be used by anyone in the group as needed.” Please provide book, chapter and verse.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        To say “They would have paid the taxes” is an asumption. Assume simply means making an “ass” out of “U” and “me”. Sure they knew they would have to pay taxes. How else would their infrastucture be built and maintained. Until 1910, the only income the Federal government recieved was the federal excise taxes. Until the 16th change in our constitution, people did not pay any taxes directly to the district of criminals (DC).

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Yes, but any giving is and was VOLUNTARY. Communism is FORCED “giving”, if you want call it that. The lords get, the serfs are subjected to forced “giving”. If that wasn’t the case, who’d pay for Barry an Michelle’s grand style of living?

  • AK Tom

    The people of Kalifornia keep re-electing the same multi-millionaire politicians who keep raising taxes on other rich people while exempting themselves.

  • Bev

    Phil – I can’t believe you haven’t left already. Leave, leave now while the leaving is good. We left Kalifornia in Jul 2002 and have not regretted it for one second. The weather is beautiful, but the policies of the state suck. Come on down to Texas,’ It’s like a whole other country.

    • Catherine B

      Yeah, Phil! We’ve got the highest infant mortality rate in the country, and almost in the world! You’ll be proud to call yourself a Texan!

      • Drake

        Catherine, why are you so negative? The highest infant mortality rate probably directly relates to the high number of illegals living in Texas; if you extracted that segment out of the citizen (legal) population, the number would drop way down.

      • http://roberttitle.wordpress.com roberttitle

        That’s probably a major factor, but I know that hospitals are dangerous places to begin with. Disease spreads easily in hospitals due to a lot of unsanitary practices, and I doubt the administrators really care one way or another.

      • Catherine B

        Well, Drake, that could be (anything is possible), but given that California has a higher rate of illegal residents but a much lower rate of infant mortality, I think it might have more to do with factors such as teen pregnancy rate and availability of quality prenatal health care.

  • ToughGuy1

    I rather move where the least amount of taxes in a State? Like Wyoming!

  • Larry S

    Go Phil! As one of the last to wake up after being jolted by Prop. 30, he has every right to be disgusted by the actions of the gene pool in Sacramento. He tried to remain loyal to his home state but it is time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/patricia.nealmoreno Patricia Neal-Moreno

    I don’t think anyone should have to pay most of their earnings to the govt, no matter HOW much they make, they are not working for the govt. They do not belong to the govt; they are working for themselves as all free men do.

    • alpha-lemming

      Kudos……. in the “Bizzaro World” of Lib-gressive politics masquerading as the media… Phil gets to keep 39 cents of every dollar he makes.. AND…ready for this one… HE’S THE GREEDY ONE !!! We’ll file that one right beside “Global warming is responsible for Chicagos gun violence”…”60% of the population is a minority”… and “The right has slashed so much from the budget, that the only recourse is to expand the debt ceiling” !!

  • Guy Waukcinebar

    The only thing Mickelson did wrong was talk about tax rates in California. He should just lay low for six months and then move to Florida or Texas. He’s rich enough that he can afford to visit California for 5 1/2 months per year.

    • Chris

      According to Zillow he put the home on the market WAY before prop 30 even passed! It seems the state taxes before prop 30 were to high for this greedy idiot. He should have kept his self serving mouth shut and just moved quickly stating other reasons. Anybody making close to 50 million a year and flying around in a 30 million dollar GulfstreamV is not going to find to many shoulders to cry on!
      http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5111-El-Mirlo-Rancho-Santa-Fe-CA-92067/16731221_zpid/

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    Ah! to be blessed with such talent! If you’ve got it you’ve got it and if you have’nt you can’t buy it. Jealousy gets you nowhere. Go out and practice if you want a piece of the action. If you think they are not worth the money, then don’t watch them already. These guys did’nt get it right without putting in the work either. The harder they practice the luckier they get!

    • http://www.facebook.com/RollinHighwayman Cody Kennedy

      Well said Peter!

  • Jim B

    Zombism; a California condition that occurs after generations of drug induced fantasies, passed on to generations of offspring, resulting in a state of stupid supported by a taxpayer sponsored stupor. Mickelson, in a brief sobering moment came to an epiphany, but his friends quickly put him back on the pipe and back in the state of grayness where all must be in order to believe the bureaucratic nothingness that keeps them there. Phil, if you are out there listening, walk to the light where it shines brightest, move to Florida!

  • TIME

    Dear People,

    This is really nothing new to Calie, such a Beautiful state with so much raw natural beauty~ it is in fact breath taking in Northern Calie along the Russia River area, as well all along the coast from Point Reyes and up when the sun sets on the water its like a small piece of heaven, then in rolls the fog off the water like a blanket for a good nights sleep.

    But the TAX’s aside for a moment, ~ just wait until the average family of 4 all around this nation has to start paying for that special “NEW TAX” ~ that was sold as FREE Health care.

    Yes ~ many of you may recall it had to be passed ~ so they could then see what was in it.

    “SUPPRISE” ~ as I told people ~ it would be a massive rise in cost to everyone, ~ and the numbers don’t LIE, ~ but Liers used numbers ~ a family of 4 will be paying over
    {{ $20,000.00 }} per year just for this special privilege of “FREE” health care.

    When will you all say: ” enough is enough?”

    What will it take to wake the Sleeping Sheelpe?

    *Gas today: 2/1/13 here in the South East is: $3.42.9 ~ on Monday 1/25/13 ~ it was $3.21.9

    *Price of food has gone up in just three weeks of January 2013 ~, by 5.% How much do you think it will go up in Febuary?

    Can anyone who still has any form of sanity really question why these special people in DC want to take away your “GUNS” at this point in TIME, ~ as the Dollar is falling daily? Perhaps better said the LIE just can’t be sustained much longer.

    But yet ~ the totaly manipulated as well controlled mass media is telling you ~ everything is rose’s and sweet butter balls.

    What will you all do when the DOW is at its real set point, of ~ 1200 rather than the overinflated ~ 14,000 its at now?

    Just a few thoughts,

    Peace and Love, Shalom ~ Please allow the “Holy Sprit ” into your Heart and Soul, you will be gald you did.

    • JeffH

      TIME, hear, hear! California has always been considered the “model” for the nation…nothing has changed. Progressive Democrats rule the roost bullying every non-Dem that doesn’t tow the party line. The enviro-wackos and the public unions pay for and support the legislators in this state. Industry is practically non existant, warehouses are empty as well as the majority of business complexes because of over regulation and taxation. Malls across the state have businesses coming in and going out like a musical chair game. They pass budgets and measure them based on “projected” tax revenue from the “mystery” taxpayers.

      Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi are the three most recognizable names in California politics and all three are from San Francisco…that explains everything.

      • TIME

        Dear Jeff,

        Hi, I hope all is well with you and your family. As I told you I really loved living out off Point Reyes but that was back when the politicians had not quite made such a mess of everything, yet even then ~ I still saw the very clear hand writting on the wall.

        Anyway on that special Omen care, what I posted ~ on the family of 4 paying $20K per year thats the low level care or whats noted as the “Bronze Package”
        There is also the “Silver Package” and the “Gold Package” and lets not forget that with each grade of precious metal the cost goes up about $10K.

        I guess after reading it, the Sheeple may get a shock that sends them to the morgue.

        By the way Gas just this morning its now: $3.51.9 per gallon so after I went for a walk, came home took a shower and went to do a few things gas went up again nearly .10 cents, thats in no more than 5 hours!

        Peace and Love, shalom, How Blessed we are to be awake, be safe my friend.

      • JeffH

        TIME, thanks, things are well considering the rising costs of living here in California. The cost of groceries and daily necessities are up about 20-25% and sales tax just went up to 8.225%. Pt. Reyes is like heaven, so beautifull.

        Heading up to the bay area for the Super Bowl on saturday…close friends always throw a big party. Most of us are Raider fans but we can get behind the Niners when the Raiders arn’t playing.

        We’ll stay in touch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/RollinHighwayman Cody Kennedy

    The man works for what he has. He is entitled to make his own decisions. He makes more than me but I’m not ridiculing him for his thoughts or income. Wish I could make that much. Then again, I’m terrible at golf! :) Wish him luck in whatever he decides.

  • Eatshiite

    Too bad all those of us who are working for a living and for the living of those on welfare can’t quit paying taxes period. See how long the government lasts then! We don’t need them. They don’t do anything except take your money! Wish we could hit them where it hurts! In their bank account!

    • http://gmail Lillian

      in the early 1950′s the federal income tax rate was 2%. Men could go to work, women could stay home with the kids. They were able to buy a modest home, a car, vacation to the shore, pay their bills, build a retirement nest egg, give to the church and charitable organizations and live “The American Dream.” Since the advent of “social programs” we have gone to the lifestyle we now “enjoy” with women in the workforce just sometimes to scrape enough of a living to just get by. The government plays Robin Hood but not with the rich, with ALL of us. The agenda has always been the communist movement. We will even the playing field, reduce incentives to work and watch the chips fall where they may, or better yet where we determine they shoud.Income taxes, as I recently learned, do not go to the government. They go to ALL of the ridiculous social programs and to the very questionable institutions such as planned parenthood. The money the govenment nets comes from various other taxes (and bribes). I agree. We need to stop the Taxation Without Representation.

      • Walt

        I recall many years ago when I was in my 20′s, a friend of mine suggested that there should be a law that states: if you need government assistance, you forfeit your right to vote, for as long as you are receiving any form of government assistance.

        I remember laughing at how rediculous my friend’s proposal was at that time….now, after seeing how politicians on the Left use the welfare and entitlement crowd’s vote as the foundation of their power, I’m not so sure that his idea was as bizzare as it sounded so many years ago.

      • Catherine B

        Lillian, all you have to do is go to the polls and vote. Then you will have taxation WITH representation.

        But what YOU are probably looking for is a monarchy, with Queen Lillian making all the decisions for the majority of voters who disagree with you.

      • Jack

        Lilian:

        I don’t know where you got your misinformation from but the top federal income tax rate in the early 1950′s was some 90% not the 2% you claimed. Also many “social programs” were created in the 1930′s.

        You are right that things were better for people/families in the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s but that was before “conservative/libertarian” ideas took hold.

        How could such wide spread prosperity have been created with top tax rates in the 70 to 90% range during the 50s-70s under both Republican and Democratic presidents but ever since Reagan came in and started the “conservative/libertarian” low taxes and less govenment onslot it has been downhill for average people/families while the rich have become vastly richer?

        “Conservative/libertarian” ideas have made it so most families cannot have a stay at home
        mother any more because it takes both the man and the woman working to support the family. Don’t you ever stop to think how could most families have had stay at home moms back in the high tax and more government days and now in the low tax and less government days most families no longer can afford to have a stay at home mother?

    • Texas Ride

      It is time to purge Washington and time for the power of government to return to the States. States need to take back the powers usurped by the Federal government, and return to the Constitution.

      The closer our lawmakers live to the people, the more accountable they are. Take our representatives out of their “Ivory Towers” in Washington. Put these crooks back into their own communities where they can be isolated. It seems, as a group, they are emboldened, and they seek security in numbers. They must be reminded that they are not America’s “Eite Class.” Make them live in the districts they represent, close to the people, and available to answer for the laws they make. As it is, they are securely tucked away in Washington and unaccountable for what they do to the country. These politicians refuse to follow the laws they make for others and act like a pack of wolves when it comes to tearing up the country.

      It is time to break-up “The Pack” in Washington. We must decentralize power to save the country.

      • Catherine B

        Tex, I wish it were that simple. Here in Maryland, we have a very solid power elite in Annapolis that is every bit as isolated from the people and cozy with their best friends/contributors as any rats in DC.

      • kimo3690

        I’m with Ya Texas Ride!!! Amen Brother!!

  • http://gillysdailynews.blogspot.com Gilly from Australia

    Not, Mauritius…but Australia needs more caucasians of working age and if you can give up your guns and semi automatic weapons come down a visit our fair shores. We need smarter people like engineers, entrepenuers, silicon valley types, more sportsmen and women, more vets and dentists, more law abiding citizens and i bet you’ll find our taxes lower than in the USA and the lifestyle much easier to enjoy.

    • S.C.Murf

      Gilly, I was in Sidney in early 69 R&R ya know. Beautiful country, water skied in one of your inland saltwater rivers, watched a cricket match and loved it down under. I think I’ve gotten to old to move now, hell if it wasn’t for the open heart surgery, kidney surgery, rotator cuff surgery, back surgery I wouldn’t be able to move at all. But I with you mind and spirit and soul.

      up the hill
      airborne

    • jim

      Hey Gilly, you work for the chamber of commerce?

      • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com Gilly from Australia

        lol No but I do promote our Yarra Valley Wine region with a passion in particular the Yarra Glen region in Victoria, if I could send you some of our green pastured views…you might just come over for a visit AND

        I also promote St Arnaud Vic 3478 a western Victorian country town which during the 1860′s produced Historical mining at St Arnaud produced an estimated 360,000ozs of gold, most of which was derived from one large mine. The Lord Nelson mine produced an estimated 320,000ozs of gold to a maximum depth of 786m. Most of the other mines did not extend beyond 200m depth, and very little exploration has occurred at St Arnaud beneath 200m.

        So I have self appointed myself as unofficial King, ambassador and immigration minister of the region to try entice new exploration and new residents to come live in this great little town. Mind you the town which never floods is surrounded by millions of acres of grazing pastoral holdings needing young new farmers to take over before others move in. So I hearterly invite interested parties to have a closer look on google and internet sites showing history of the town of approx 3000 people and every major Australian bank still has a branch in the town should tell you lots about the underlying prosperity in the town.We have farming and silo manufaturers needing new blood to take over and expand manufacturing. Why not, it Ted of Everything Attachments can do it why not in Australia….so if you getting sick of all the BS…. come right over and come and have a look see….

        i’ll even give you a free room in one of our 112 year old hotel buildings in St Arnaud not modern. but sure high n dry. Theres even a modern motel business for sale in Town …lots of opportunities for the positive thinkers and workers in the US of A and we speak the same language….

        and have I forgotten, we even have the largest Turkey hatching, raising and Turkey bacon processing businesses in Australia located in St Arnaud in Victoria.

      • http://roberttitle.wordpress.com roberttitle

        Are there mountains nearby where the gold was dug from? Any photos? robertt1114322@att.net

      • jim

        Well now ole chap you gave me quite the animated description. It’s 7 am here in Florida and I am about too google earth your region of Australia. on another note how is it that you come to know this web site? It’s fascinating to know somebody that pays attention to a Libertarian point of view coming from another country.

  • cattyshack2

    Hey Phil, It’s your $$ not the news media, LEAVE California while you still can. Let the dogs in your current state lick their own wounds. Now, they are laughing at you for paying their salaries.. GO NOW!

  • vietnamvet1971

    Come on Phil be a Man and do the Right thing, Gesh do not listen to the sponsors and the Liberal Manure Spreading Machines to dictate what you must do. Tell them to Go to He11.

  • Larry

    why should he give the Goverment that kind of money to waste he should move

  • ? Chocopot

    Has anyone taken note of what nearly all of those high-tax states have in common? They are nearly all long controlled by the Left, they have high unemployment, they have low or no job growth, they have high crime, they have high welfare populations, they have far too many laws and regulations governing businesses and personal freedoms, and so forth. Gee, what a coincidence.

    • Catherine B

      Yeah. And California spawned Silicon Valley, and the movie industry, and feeds large segments of the United States, and has an incredible State University system that people from all over the country and world strive to attend, and has supplied the rest of the country with chiropractors for those of us who can’t take muscle relaxers. What a useless state!

      • ? Chocopot

        Living on the glories of the past will get you nowhere. California is an economic basket case with a budget deficit larger than the total budgets of all but 8 other states and, after more than a century of continuous population growth, it has a huge outmigration of all but illegals because there are no jobs. Yeah, that sure is something to envy.

  • TPS12

    Just leveling the playing field steal from one to give to others dems think their Robin Hood! I would move Phil.

  • TPM

    Run, Phil, Run! … More Californians need to bolt, to send a message to the freeloaders and the politicians who cater to them.

  • RobinPC

    It gripes my rear end to see the incomes of the professionjal atheletes. It is disgusting. But it makes me mad as he** for someone to take their money and give it to low life lazy free loaders. At least the athelete has “some” amount of talent. Free loaders do not.

    • rendarsmith

      He he he….I second that!

      • Gordon

        My Dad used to say that it is the government’s job “to tax people for their ability to make money”= punish the productive worker….

        Back when the top rates were 90%, R.G. Latourneau/Euclid equipment (1940s?) was asked about the millions he paid. He said, “You ought to see how much I have left!!”

        Regarding the athletes: The USA citizens care more about sports entertainment than most anything else. If they didn’t, these people wouln’t be making enormous bucks.

        Keep the masses entertained and they will accept any political doctrine. Marxist philosophy.

      • Gordon

        I think Latourneau also said, “It’s pretty cheap rent for living in this country.”

        Of course, the only folks who say money isn’t that important are those who have more of it than they can possibly spend.

    • ALAN KACHALSKY

      “It gripes my rear end to see YOUR income, RobinP,C” you greedy pompous ass! What give you the right to take home that kind of money, Robin, when there are people in India working for 87cents a day!!

      How do you like them apples, Robin.
      Get my point? What business is it of yours how much professional athletes make, as long as they don’t steal it from you with a gun?

      • http://gmail Lillian

        I just have one thing to say. If you were offered that same pay for playing a game you love, would you reject it??? If your boss automatically offered you double your salary would you say, “Oh heck no, I make too much as it is, give it to the poor/needy/illegal or whatever.” I do not begrudge him for the money he earns and I totally understand how he feels about the taxes he pays. We ALL pay way too much in taxes, those of us who work anyway. I admit we would all be able to stop working and retire on just what he pays in taxes but that is not the point. The point is that HE earned it and in an honest way. We have to stop being envious of those who have done so much better financially. I would not want his lifestyle to be quite honest with you. You pay a price for such wealth and I prefer a simple, humble life. Some people may think $200,000 annual salary is ludicrous and yet that puts someone in middle class status, depending on what state you live in, as most of it gets raped off in one tax or another. If they pay him that, then shame on us as consumers for playing into the cause of it. (ie) buying the products endorsed, going to these sporting events, betting on them etc….He cannot be blamed for accepting the going rate for the job. You would do the SAME thing and we ALL know it.

      • RobinPC

        Thanks for your insight. For your information I live on my SS, $800 a month. Want to remove your foot from your mouth now or later?

      • Gordon

        Rob, you aren’t one of those who is living on a fixed income because you don’t want to touch the 10 million cash you got saved, are you?

    • Unkle

      Like any other business if the profit loss is substancial if the income is reduced. Pros make a boatload of money only if ticket sales are high and the endorsements continue to roll in. The strategy in knocking their salaries back down to middle income would be to not buy tickets, not purchase items or use services manufactured or maintained by their endorsing companies/corporations. What else would you have them to do? Legislate them into a lower income bracket? Just quite consuming. That should dry things up a bit. Oh, and you will need complete global participation into that evil plan.

    • mark

      Sadly, so many top athletes today are overpaid, overpublicized, spoiled brats with giant egos and sense of self-importance. Who cares what they think about anything? This is a guy who hits a little ball into a small hole hundreds of yards away and gets paid millions for it. Gee, what a great contribution Mickelson makes to society. I have much more respect for coal miners, janitors, and factory workers. At least they do something useful for which they are paid very little in comparison

      Also the overwhelming amount of your tax money does not go to lazy freeloaders, Robin. It goes to our giant, bloated Pentagon with our huge, most highly paid military in the world with the most expensive death-dealing technology known to man. It also goes to Social Security and Medicare which elderly workers receive after having paid into it every week for over 40 years. It goes to federal and military pensions again to people who paid into the system for decades. But I guess they qualify as lazy freeloaders to you. Our tax money also goes to huge corporate subsidies. A relatively small portion of it goes into social programs in an era where there is only one available job for every three job seekers. We are very slowly, too slowly, coming out of the worst recession since the Great Depression so it is understandable that many suffering citizens require unemployment insurance, food stamps, and in the worst cases welfare. But AFDC is a very small percentage of our overall budget, about $120 billion from an overall budget of $3.8 trillion or one third of 1% of federal expenditures. Also don’t forget Phil’s and all of our tax money only goes to pay for about two thirds of our federal spending, the other one third is borrowed from the Chinese and other foreign central bankers who buy so many of our treasury bonds.

      • rhcrest

        Wrong. 70& of our budget goes to welfare programs NOT the military. It doesn’t matter if people need the money or not – they have no right to steal what someone else has worked for. Taxes are nothing but legalized theft but instead of you being mugged on the street, the gov’t steals the money for the recipient so it’s all legal. That money belongs to the person that worked for it – it is private property.. It does not belong to anyone else whether they need it or not. The only taxes that should be allowed is a Fair tax that ALL pay, including illegal aliens and the poor. A fair tax is a national sales tax. Everyone lives here so everyone should have to pay to support this country. Income taxes are unconstitutional and should be eliminated. The 16th amendment was never properly ratified.

      • nc

        Mark, as usual, a position so well stated that the arguments against it would be lame at best! My guess is that they will ignore it completely rather than show their ignorance to adult independents watching with an attempt to disprove your analysis. Good work!

      • Robert Smith
      • Catherine B

        I have a coworker who is a great blabbermouth about paying too much in taxes. He goes to great lengths to commute from a state where there are no sales taxes, low car registration fees, etc. Always complaining about having to support “the freeloaders.”

        He loves to fish, has a boat and captain’s license; the government-funded weather reports, maps, and wind/sea reports are always open on his computer at work. He has called on the Coast Guard numerous times for help over the years when in trouble out to sea. Umm, I could call HIM a freeloader. My taxes help pay for all those free services that he uses every day.

        Frankly, I’m happy that our tax dollars went into space exploration, that led to satellite communications and the development of so much of the technology that enhances our lives and that we all use with very little awareness of how it became possible. We have an enormous national infrastructure that benefits all of us–and the more money we have, the wealthier we are, the more we use it–even if we are too selfish or stupid or impressed with our own “talent” to recognize that we are using it.

        If you are driving on clean, smooth, safe, well-lit, well-marked Federally funded roads; taking commercial flights all over the country and not crashing into other planes constantly or blowing up because of government-funded air controllers or security systems; sending your kids to school, community college, or private universities where no matter how much you are paying in tuition, it is only a small fraction of what it actually costs to educate your kids; or just turning on the TV or radio to find the weather or road conditions or traffic reports before your commute to work; you are consuming a lot more tax-funded services than someone using food stamps or WIC (which also, by the way, is subsidizing profits for huge agri-corps at the same time, with your tax dollars). And if you think that feeding hungry children so they can learn at school and not be disruptive and hopefully grow up to be able to hold a job cannot possibly contribute in the big scheme of things to your personal well-being–well, what can I say. You have a very small universe between your ears.

      • JeffH

        mark, mark, mark, your progressive envy is obvious. Who cares what your little insignificant self thinks about the success of someone that has the tremendous skills required to be a high paid athlete and hit that little round ball into a little round cup?

        You said “This is a guy who hits a little ball into a small hole hundreds of yards away and gets paid millions for it. Gee, what a great contribution Mickelson makes to society.”

        There is one thing about Phil Mickelson that can not be questioned. He is a family man first and foremost, evident mostly because of the family choices he has made in full public view. Golf is second in his life.

        Here’s a guy that has endured the pain of two family members fighting breast cancer, his wife Amy and his mother. It was no surprise that Mickleson announced he would suspend play on the PGA Tour indefinitely.

        His reputation is that of a man who has a strong sense of family with three children who is well grounded. Mickelson took breaks from the tour to be at home in San Diego so he could take his kids to school. Or to go trick-or-treating.
        He’s not a pompous “arse” on the course or in public.

        You envious liberals and progressives should be supportive of this guy…oh, but he makes too much money for hitting a little round ball…that’s so disgusting.

      • Texas Ride

        RH, you are so right! Progressive Retros don’t want us to know how much we must pay to support people that refuse to work.

        The communist talking-points blame Medicare, Military and Social Security. for our huge debt. ..How many times have you heard government talk about the amount of money that is spent on the useless that live on the communist (formerly the Democrat party) Plantation…they don’t.

        This regime is about creating so much unsustainable debt that the country will colllapse. That is why omaumau shows no interest in cutting spending. His job is to think of more ways to waste money. The amount of money he spends to support the terrorist countries in the middle east is ever increasing. He is giving money to everyone in the world and the most of it goes to our enemies. American tax dollars have just paid for Twenty new jet fighters and Two-Hundred new tanks, to GIVE to Egypt! Yet, we don’t have money to feed our soldiers fighting in foreign countries!

        This regime and its policies, in four years, have caused nearly Nine Million people to leave the labor force. Jobs are disappearing and the economy is shrinking. The real unemployment rate is nearly 15% and for minorities it is 18%!

        Stop worrying about what the other guy makes, it is none of your business. Start directing all that animosity toward the commie-marxists that are running your country into the ground.

      • http://roberttitle.wordpress.com roberttitle

        The UNDERemployment rate is actually closer to 40% which includes people that take part-time jobs out of necessity when they want full time jobs.

      • Texas Ride

        Catherine, what tripe! You are a good little brainwashed liberal soldier!

        Wake up, “lady.”

      • rhcrest

        Rob, i am sorry but you are wrong. http://blog.heritage.org/2012/09/23/chart-of-the-week-70-of-spending-goes-to-dependence-programs/ TThis is but one source for my information. There are many others.

      • mark

        Very good points, Catherine. I used to live in a farm state where all the farmers would complain to me in this diner about all the freeloaders sucking them dry. Of course they all got significant farm subsidies, subsidized loans, and Department of Agriculture help and advice all paid for by the federal government. My government help is fine but yours? Why you’re nothing but a dirty parasite.

      • craig james

        Mark,
        You Sir, Are COMPLETELY IGNORANT!

      • Anthony

        Mark why so envious of the rich….I dont care if he was making millions tossing [expletive deleted] into a hole……somebody must be paying to watch him hit [expletive deleted] into a hole. But thats all a part of the government distraction ruse. Services are what you deem it is worth…some people see golf as a sport they want to pay high dollars to see.But forget that.everybody keeps focusing on welfare and entitlements when we all know most of our dollars are geared towards the war machine..which is promoting the agenda of some secret society.Im finacially successful and I would like to see some of these tax dollars for war geared toward paying for the college education of anyone who wants it…no more student loan debt…but thats not part of their plan…someone has to wash dishes,clean toilets..cut grass..etc,etc…Im all about empowering people….you would be surprised at how many people want to go to college but simply cant afford it!!!!…..If im going to pay high [expletive deleted] taxes..at least let me determine to where my tax dollars go…….I dont want to pay for no invasions of anyones country….knowing we are only going in to steal and take control of the natural resources…..do you know who owns BP and Shell……you are in for a shock…the [expletive deleted] flows back uphill..follow the paper trail…….yeah they are getting subsidies….the most evil of all. They try to blend in with honest and compassionate millionaires and billionaires….look it up!!!

      • http://twitter.com/deftdaft Robert Taylor (@deftdaft)

        I, like millions of others in this country, are fed up with fighting Israel’s war. The two biggest terrorist nations on earth are the good old U.S.A. and Israel. It’s past time to bring our troops home and garrison them on both of our national borders and stop killing thousands of innocent civilians with our illegal, unconstitutional drone attacks.

      • Anthony

        Oh Mr Taylor I whole heartedly agree….Im 100% against wars and invasion of foreign lands in order to steal their resources and kill their leaders we deem terrorists. I guess im a rare type of successful person….you see I dislike anything sponsored by the government,rather it be wars or taxes…im all about prosperity for all..rather you work at McDonalds or if you are the CEO of Facebook……..im for us all paying less taxes no matter what we make. And everyone can stop talking about Obama taking from the rich and giving to the poor or welfare recipients…..they tax me to death and I know most of my money is going toward funding these evil wars….hell I wish I could take care of a couple of welfare recipients and pay for their college etc. instead of paying for a war..but the government doesnt give us choices..they only take our tax dollars and do with it as they please.So bottom line I dont care if you throw horse patties in a hoop for milllions of bucks,I dont want the government taking it from you for any reason!!!!

      • Old Henry

        Well put, rh. The one major problem I have noticed about the “Fair Tax” is that it makes no provision for repealing the 16th Amendment. So, with the criminals running our guvmint we would end up with both taxes.

      • Old Henry

        And Texas Ride, I read a couple of weeks ago that it costs the tax payers of this country 1.4 BILLION dollars per year to house Little Barry and Mooch.

        Just ONE of their countless tax-payer-funded vacations cost more than most people make in a life time. Where is the indignant outrage over all that expense?

      • http://roberttitle.wordpress.com roberttitle

        We’re closer now to a monarchy (actually it’s fascism)than a constitutional republic. Between this Kenyan autocrat and those in Congress that put Israel’s interest above our own….our days in freedom are very, very limited.

    • Hedgehog

      Robin, you’re right and you’re wrong. None of you should be paying any taxes at all! The federal government has a contractor (Federal Reserve) to which they gave a monopoly to print your money. When you can print money you don’t need taxes, just print more money! I know it sounds simple, it is simple! Taxes are how government fuels the “divide and conquer” mechanism. If they can get you to envy your wealthier neighbor, they can deflect you from thinking about their actions. It amazes me, you people are armed, for heavens sake, take your country back from the government thieves. FYI, I am a Canadian. We pay roughly 60% of our individual incomes in various taxes and user fees. We complain about it, but consider it a bargain, not for what the government does for us but for what it doesn’t do to us! When we are dissatisfied we rebel. Usually the rebellion is at the ballot box, but we are no strangers to armed insurrection. Check our history sometime, just for fun.

      • kimo3690

        AMEN AGAIN Brother!!! I spent a year living in Australia…. 70% taxation; no right to bear arms; impromptu searches; etc etc…. Millions of Americans are getting ready for that very rebellion my friend… trust me and keep your powder dry!!

      • Anthony

        You are 100000% right….these brainawashed fools dont understand the art of war….or distraction…or manipulation…….our government is using this rich vs poor ploy to turn people against each other when we all should be turning our furor on THEM!!!!…..MAN THEY GOT THAT SILENT MIND CONTROL WEAPON OPERATING AT FULL BLAST…A LOT OF [expletive deleted]CANT SEEM TO SEE WHATS GOING ON….BUT A FEW UNSHAKABLE HARD HEADS LIKE ME SEE RIGHT THROUGH THEIR [expletive deleted]!!!!!!…PEACE TO YOU HEDGE HOG

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