Your comment should be placed in the stupid box as spastic as it was. Okay lets disarm all the police and military I could possibly agree with that if the circumstances were right. What better way to stop wars from happening if our soldiers aren’t armed. Might even stop a few cops from killing.

Whoa eddie….are you serious or are you talking in your sleep. The best way to start a war is to disarm the people. Weakness invited invasion. It is obvious you have never studied strategies. The best way to create peace is having the best armed people that know how to use them. Every part of our counrty that is gun free is where the most killing takes place. Those areas that are well armed are safe and quiet. I mean really….this has been proven so many times I thought we all understood it but is seems you never got that memo.

Eddie, under the executive orders and proposed laws, as proposed, that is exactly what will be required. No magazines with a capacity of more than ten rounds, period, will be sold or allowed in the United States. Seems someone forgot that ninety per cent of all police HANDGUNS have magazines that hold more than that, FROM THE FACTORY. Mssrs glock and sig saur both fall into that category. BUT, they were NOT excluded in the high capacity magazine ban, so those guns will have to be turned in or converted to use smaller magazines. Tell that one to the crooks who love those big bang bangs and see how fast you are laughed out of town.

Elda: Do you understand sarcasm for that is what I leveled at Rick for saying police shouldn’t be armed .

Chester; I support the 10 round limit but I don’t write the rules. If it passes then police should also reduce their capacity.

Leon Panetta has a history of representing groups that had direct ties with Communist Parties or Communist Governments- which fits with his placement in the Obama Administration.

Joe; Okay since I’m not aware of that point out those commie groups he hangs out with. No links necessary!

Joe, please allow me to respond to eddie’s comment. Hang out? That’s comical but but not unexpected from eddie.

CIA Director Leon Panetta inserted a tribute in the April 11, 1984, Congressional Record to one of his constituents, communist sympathyzer Lucy Haessler, calling her a “woman of peace” for her work in the pro-Soviet Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF). This is when Panetta was a California Congressman representing Santa Cruz.

Panetta’s praise for Haessler got the attention at the time of Human Events, the national conservative weekly, which noted that WILPF “appears to take the Soviet line on virtually every issue that comes up, ranging from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and yellow rain [communist chemical warfare] to the issue of new U.S. missiles in Europe.” The Women’s International Democratic Federation was an outright Soviet front organization.

tribute to identified Communist Party member Hugh DeLacy, inserted into the Congressional Record in 1983, suggests that Panetta did have keen knowledge of these “real activists,” by virtue of his praise for DeLacy’s stand against “McCarthyism.” Hence, it appears that Panetta did indeed “check” on these people, completely understood they had been accused of membership in the Communist Party or having communist sympathies, and found them totally acceptable and praiseworthy.

The series of “Dear Hugh” and “Dear Leon” letters discovered by blogger Trevor Loudon in the Hugh DeLacy papers at the University of Washington proves that Panetta had seriously checked out this particular constituent and had a working and cordial relationship with him. In fact, Panetta provided DeLacy, a key contact of a communist spy ring, with sensitive documents. And judging from the tone of some of the letters, DeLacy appears to be telling Panetta what to say and do as a sitting member of Congress. Even after Panetta attended a private “celebration” for DeLacy and his wife Dorothy, another communist, DeLacy reminded Panetta that he should return to scrutinizing the “military boondoggle.”

The tribute to Haessler proves that the DeLacy controversy is not a fluke but part of a disturbing pattern. In 1979, Panetta had spoken in Santa Cruz when the local chapter of WILPF was the site and host of the organization’s national congress.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff529.htm

Sorry…should read “does not need Panetta”
My bad.

It’s like a friend of mine, who is a long time police officer and Army Reservist with 2 tours in Iraq, said. Teachers are taught to gather the children together in a group in the corner of the room in an instance like Sandy Hook. That makes them easy targets. Wouldn’t matter if he had a 10 rd mag or a 100 rd mag. They are all together in a huddle so taking a couple of seconds to reload with a 10 rd mag wouldn’t make a difference.

Then some of you gun owners must feel a tight bond with that little guy with the moustache since some of you have quite a secret little arsenal stashed away! LOL!

Not only that Ted, but most people don’t fire hollow points at the range. That’s why they make FMJ. Now the gov’t agents might fire hollow points at the range since we the people are paying for them, but most of the general public don’t.

Hollow points cost 2-3 times as much as regular ball ammo. Oh I forgot we are paying for them. And if obama is approving homeland security to buy more hollow point bullets than there are people in this country, than I’nm sure as hell not giving up any of my weapons!!! He plans on having homeland securtiy confiscate these weapons. They also took an oath to the constitution to the 2nd amendment and swore to protect american citizens. How many of them do you think would actually stand behing that oath… Look at TSA!!!!! The biggest violators of the constitution!!!!!!! So I wouldn’t count on even one standing behind ath!!!!!

canvas pouches in a wooden barrel!..there ya go!

Eddie, perhaps you should take a good look at the airline industry if you are going to complain about things killing people. More people have died in air crashes than in mass killings in this country, yet people STILL fly, and the airlines get bigger and more dangerous planes to fly. Far as that goes, we still use cars on highways, yet more people are killed every day in car wrecks than in shootings. If we are going to ban things because they might be dangerous to the public, why not start with banning speech we don’t agree with. That way we wouldn’t be tempted to walk over and smack them in the mouth. Has been TRIED in the past, and, as you can see, did NOT work all that well. I can show you a dozen or more things that are just as dangerous if misused, yet there is never any talk of banning them, or of mandating all of them be registered and licensed. Pipe wrenches and baseball bats are only a couple.

eddie i can do the same amount of damedge with my ruger 10/22 its not the gun its the person behind it

Chester; World wide 766 people died in plane crashes within the world in 2007. That is the lowest number in the last 30 years. The highest is 3,234 which doesn’t ever come close to all the gun deaths that have occurred. The issue of mass shootings is extremely important but hardly the only statistic with guns..As I said 1.3 million Americans have died from the use of guns since 1968 yet few have the courage to do anything about it. Except for maybe a terrorist such as with Lockerbie few if anyone buys a plane ticket for the sake of killings themselves or anyone else. Planes are also safer than cars by 62% and nobody rides in a car expecting death either. Now if someone points a gun in your face I think there is a reasonable chance he could kill you because that is what the gun is for. Cars and planes are a transportation issue with hundreds of rules and safety features to avoid people dying. I expect nothing less from the gun owners in America and the manufacturers of weapons. With all those deaths by guns someone is dropping the ball and shirking their duty .

Eddie, your contradicting yourself! You say it doesn’t matter weather 20 or 30 are killed by a ar-15, just look at what they can do. I have worked in a emergency room, and have seen people dead from something as small as 22 cal to something as large as a 44 mag. I really couldn’t tell too much difference between who was deader. Guns cans can kill period! Some handguns can do as much damage as a assault rifle. Handguns are not made for hunting even though some of them have been equipped to do so! A handguns primary purpose is to kill a person, as is a assault weapon. No matter what laws are put in place you well never keep any type of gun out of the hands of a person bent on killing. The only thing that might reduce these tragic deaths is to have more weapons in the hands of law abiding citizens that know how to use them. But with all the plans in the works for limiting some of these guns, there will less chance to stop someone from killing our children! The school my children are going to is having all the staff take a gun course to prepare for there CHL. I hate that it has come to this, but banning of certain weapons did not work before. It’s pretty much the same as the cold war. The Soviet Union kept its distance because they had little chance of survival. What do you think could have, or would have, happened if The United States had disarmed before them? Please, think of something that will work, trying what failed before is not the answer.

Thanks for pointing out the dangers of handguns too! How can you say something won’t work if we keep pumping out semi-automatics like crazy. I guess I should be asking you do you enjoy taking bullets out of bodies regardless of the caliber size? Since we are the number one manufacturer of arms in the world ,78% then obviously we control the damage.

Ooooooooo, a big scary gun. 200 hundred people are killed each year by Bambi (that means deer, eddie). Almost 200,000 are killed by doctors and prescribed drugs each year. The “presciption” drug culture in our country is far more dangerous than the so called gun culture. The difference is guns are a part of self suffiency, magic pills are part of the nanny state…depend on a doctor, the government, etc to diaper your ass you are to lazy and stupid to take care of yourself.

You say that 1.3 million people have died since 1968 because of guns. The other side , and there are ALWAYS 2 SIDES, is that some 60-70 million have been SAVED by guns. I’ll take those odds anytime.
When seconds count…the police are only minutes away.

The only correct view on gun control is that it is TOTALLY unconstitutional. The last 4 words of the 2nd amendment cover it…”shall not be infringed”. That means “by the government”. Who the hell are you to tell me what guns I am allowed to own!!! Ditto to obama.

You mean the same Panetta that told congress that he takes orders from the UN and not you. Look it up.

No one wants to kill anyone.

Please watch!

Sorry Eddie. Please watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoQbGqYB4Y8

I understand what Panetta was saying and indeed we should have a coalition gathered together in order to start any operation. He did dance around the question of Congressional approval and that lack of approval of coarse is what gets us in trouble with our false flag wars. Senator Sessions did not get the answer he was looking for and he heard the same old duck and cover.

(dufus ignoramous)eddie says “What did Panetta do as the Secretary of Defense that makes you think you have the right to kill him?”

Leave it to an ignorant anti-American commie to derive such an idea from a pretty clear and un-threatening comment.

eddie, you get dumber by the second!

I wonder if those children at Sandy Hook were thinking” Who would want to assassinate me today.” People like the shooter at Sandy Hooks would find a way to arm himself even if guns and ammunition were banned completely! The only thing that would have helped was to have a armed citizen there to stop him before he could have gathered such a high death toll.

Eddie, again let me send you a message.
I was a agitator in Alaska in the 1970s. The state government was full of crooks, we elected Jay Hammond as the governor. I started a movement called ‘Alaskans for Responsive Government’ and it caught on fire wihin a year and we passed a bill to move the Capital from Juneau to Wasilla, in the Matsu valley out by Big Lake. This would give the people of Anchorage and Fairbanks good access to the State Capitol.

With the capitol in Juneau the meeting of the legislature was nothing more than a pile of drunks and whores having an unending party at the expense of the taxpayer with bills passed that only made their deal better.

We elected Hammond as Governor because he said he would ‘take the State Seal and live in a Trailer House in Wasilla while a meeting house for the Legislature was being built.’ As soon as Hammand was elected his first act was to build an Airport on his small Island where his house was, then he paved the roads on the island. Then he and the legislature put a bill together where the cost to move the capital to Wasilla was going to cost 300 million dollars and he put it up to a vote. It was turned down naturally.

Me and my group leaders started getting death threats and in a couple months some were dodging bullets. Our Kenai leader got shot and was still in the hospital when I sold my property, took my family and left. Within a year the organization was taken over by Bill Sheffield, of the same name hotel. And I have never went back to Alaska.

Where is the Capitol of Alaska today – Juneau. And that is why Sarah Palin ran for office, to clean up the government of Alaska. She also did a good job, but McCain interrupted her plan and Alaska is still a can of worms….

Thanks for being an activist in the political arena and putting your boots on the ground. Politics can grind you down and sometimes one wonders why we even try to enfluence good government. That’s unfortunate that you supported someone and he then turned against you and other citizens.

Guns are used to prevent cimes 2.5 million times PER year. Gun ownership from age 20 to 70. Population 320 million. Do the math, You have a 39% chance of using a gun to prevent a crime…but only if you are smart enough to have one!!!!!!

Remember, “when seconds count…the police are only MINUTES away!

So true.

Exactly, “The Second Amendment was not created to be conditioned to the kind of weapons that people may have available to buy or whatever the federal government thinks are ideal social situations for people to own a gun.

Governments alone are responsible for the murder of at least 250,000,000 people in the twentieth century and most of the people who were murdered were either lightly armed in comparison to their aggressors or completely disarmed.

The Second Amendment was intended to guarantee the right of the individuals to be equally armed as their country’s military, both to aid the military to defend the country from foreign threats, as well as to defend themselves from the Nation’s military forces, should they turn against The People. The Founding Fathers intended to provide the citizens the ability to be armed well enough to keep their country and themselves free from oppressive forces which could arise internally and externally.”

So it’s only natural that Leon Panetta who BTW is a life long Communist and seeks the destruction of the United States ( http://keywiki.org/index.php/Leon_Panetta )would not want the citizens to be armed. T

Actually, the 1994 assault rifle ban DID have an effect on crime rates…THEY INCREASED!!

@ Chester First off i am not for any form of gun control I believe any one who wants and can afford to buy any thing the military has should be able to have it , That said we can buy armor piercing bullets mail order they would be the black tipped ones the red tipped ones are tracers the green tipped are for light armor all can be legally bought and sold in most states , and i seen last week in the sportsman’s guide catalog M-16 part kits the only thing you don’t get is the barrel and the lower receiver and the disconnector, the last thing being the hardest to lay your hands on the other two no problem , however putting it together as a full auto well get you 10years max as a guest of the feds , however as long as you build it as a semi-auto it’s fine , same kits can be had for most military guns from old WW-2 steins to anti aircraft guns , and it is not illegal to get them up and shooting as long as they are not full auto . just to let you know , get a copy of shot gun news and see for your self .

Correction Chester, the BAR was a fully automatic weapon. Thus the designation Browning AUTOMATIC Rifle. It could be fired either semi automatically or automatically via a selector switch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1918_Browning_Automatic_Rifle

“Eddie, you are making the same mistake a lot of other extreme anti gun people make, assuming an AR-15 is the SAME as an M-16 or an M-60.”

eddie is making no mistake he is perfectly well aware of the differences he just wants ALL semi-auto firearms banned as he admitted earlier this week.

EVERYBODY STOP !!!
AND READ ELDA’S COMMENT. IF YOU HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING LIBERALS HERE IS PROBABLY THE MOST CLEAR, CONCISE, ACCURATE DEFINITIONS OF “THE RUN- OF-THE-MILL LIBERAL” IMAGINABLE. THIS REPRESENTS THE MAN-ON-THE-STREET.
THE LEADERSHIP AND HIERARCHY WHO MAKE IT A PROFESSION ARE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BREED OF UCK.

WELL DONE, ELDA !!!

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

I know how you interpret words Mort I Fied! We experienced that earlier.

Yes he is. I’ve seen a lot of his posts. He is just another commie in Democrats clothing. He is probably on disability and food stamps. That’s why he has so much free time on his hands.

STEVE -
He (eddie47d) has indicated he has always been very much in the union movements and may be on a pension. He’s been around here for an awful long time and hasn’t learned
a thing – history, philosophies, religious ideas/truths, science, research, new material — he’ll have none of it.
It’s like he stopped learning before the tenth grade in the fifties or sixties. Be it disease, drugs, trauma, poison, abuse, avoidance of learning????? Who knows? He learned enough to get by then got a job where the unions did all of anything else he needed/wanted. I’ve seen it often in MI.
Anything he’s learned since was part of the main course at a union meeting. But he’s not a shill or troll. He’s off-beat and often very singular in his commentary…but, it’s always eddie…not “talking points”.

Thank you Mike. That adds to the distaste I have always had for unions, and does explain what warped eddie. Of course, that probably means he is on a pension and he doesn’t realize that when bho causes our economy to colapse, his pension will get vaporized.

The military is the Feds

Your forming your own circular firing squad and mounting an attack. I would love for the Feds to stand down on using assault type weapons also. The problem is that our gun manufacturers pump out weapons with easy access to everyone. The Feds feel they are outnumbered because the criminals also have that easy access to those weapons so they demand the same firepower. Some gun owners hate the Feds and feel they need the same firepower to kill the Federal Agents coming to their door. I think you are all crazy and doing nothing but buying into that same line that a more powerful weapon will make you safer.

Eddie and his idiotic 3rd world thinking along with Panetta. – ” I think you are all crazy and doing nothing but buying into that same line that a more powerful weapon will make you safer.”

How do you think we become a “super power”, and have gone for so many years without an attempt of invasion? I guarantee if we had a weaker, less powerful military than others. We would have been attacked by one of the Countries that we have stepped on by now.

Furthermore, the 2A is not just about the peoples right to defend them self during a residential invasion or personal assault. It is about overturning a tyrannical government.

Learn the “Declaration of Independence” The first few paragraphs will explain why “We the People” should have the ability and the right to equally arm ourselves with the same power as the military. You think “We the People” could overthrow a government with bb guns and sling shots against 50 cal machine guns and automatic high capacity assault rifles? The Government has already banned the People from having Automatic weapons, which puts “We the people” at a disadvantage against a abusive government. Now they want to chip away a little more by banning the semi- automatics and high capacity mags. In 5 -10 years they will come back around and chip away a little more and take all long range rifles and shot guns, then any hand guns larger than a .22 cal will be banned. Eventually having a paint ball gun will be a crime because the gun looks to real and scary.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Panetta of all people knows why “We the People” need these arms. He hasn’t risen to his position or age without ever reading or learning and knowing about the “Declaration of Independence”. However the people by which he is addressing probably don’t know it, because the public school system fails to teach the youth about it and how the Government is designed to work such as “Checks and Balances” and so on.

Mr. Panetta, assault is a behavor, not a device.And just to let the folks here know, it is important for citizens to be equally armed in case of a tyranical government. You know this. Stop trying to BS people.

Not a bad spiel Wildfire yet when will you figure it out that when the 2A was written there was no standing army and it was written in that context. Now there is no longer a need for any militias anywhere which at that time in 1776 was the individual citizen.

eddie, apparently the Framers, the SCOTUS and approximatly 120 million-odd gun owners in the United States, not counting illegally owned guns don’t agree with you.

In response to Panetta’s question of why do civilians need assault weapons. My answer would be: Assault weapons are pretty much the same as hunting weapons except they have cool (aka scary looking) stuff on them. The attachments don’t make them any more dangerous that most other guns. Also, I have a right to defend my family. We live outside of town and the response time for law enforcement would be at minimum 15 minutes and likely 20-30 minutes. Any bad thing that might happen will be over a long time before they show up. Even trained policemen only have a 1 hit out of 4 shots ratio. Most civilians that have never been in a life threatening sitiuation will be worse. If there are more than one attacker (such as a gang), I may need a lot of bullets to defend myself. I intend to have plenty of ammo and preferably a more powerful/accurate gun than my attacker.

Also, Panetta & others going specifically after assault weapons doesn’t make sense if they are trying to stop deaths. Here are some stats: Assault Rifles-18 deaths, Rifles-453, handguns-6,009 deaths, blunt objects (like hammer)-674 deaths, auto accidents-32,855 deaths, drunk driving-10,839 deaths, knives-1,817 deaths, and hands/feet/fists-869 deaths. Obviously, not even a gun is needed for those that choose to kill, and assault weapons have the smallest amount of people killed. There is only one reason to go after assault rifles and that is to undermine the 2nd amendment and disarm the people.

Our founders were clear about the intent of the 2nd amendment in their extra-constitutional writings. It was primarily about defending the people from government tyrranny, but also allowing all people to defend themselves from all attacks. They speak specifically about giving the people the right to bear the same arms as the government because the point of the 2nd amendment was to defend against government tyrranny. They were also careful in their language. They chose to say “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”. They didn’t say “bear muskets”. They didnt’ say “bear guns”. They allowed for the fact that technology would advance and wished the people to have the right to bear arms as powerful as the government (foreign & domestic).

Laws do not stop criminals and madmen from getting access to guns. If only stops law abiding citizens from having guns for defending themselves against said criminals & madmen. Criminals will always have guns. To make us safer, we need all Americans to have and know how to use guns. For much of the history of our country, it was a legal requirement for all adult males (except the elderly) to have sufficient guns & ammo & training to defend themselves and our country. We would be best served by going back to this stance. Many people that currently say that guns should be banned or limited would not say so if they had experience and training with guns. Guns aren’t scary. Only the criminals & madmen are scary. Even if they don’t have access to guns, they will find ways to injure and kill the innocent. Please allow people to defend themselves, thereby saving lives.

“Not a bad spiel Wildfire yet when will you figure it out that when the 2A was written there was no standing army and it was written in that context. Now there is no longer a need for any militias anywhere which at that time in 1776 was the individual citizen.”

eddie it does not matter if you believe there is no longer a need for militias or not. The constitution has NOT been amended to remove or alter the meaning of the 2nd. Until that is done the 2nd Amendment stands as written and intended.

The founders did not trust standing armies, and neither should we. The fact they exist only increases our need for adequate weapons.

If gun control had anything to do with public safety, why did NY include the police in their new gun ban????? Aren’t the police the first line of defense charged with public safety?
It really doesn’t matter (unless it is next door to a donut shop).
When seconds count…the police are only minutes away.
Rapists, murders, home invaders, robbers, muggers and bullies ARE REAL. Ignoring criminals does not make them go away.

” Ignoring criminals does not make them go away.”

Right, right, right, right on, on, on – Just ask that lady in Pennsylvania who had that creep ransacking their home trying to find her and her kids. Ignoring him and trying to get out of his way did not make him go away. Warning him did not make him go away. The first four shots did not make him go away.
Shooting him the fifth round convinced him it was time to leave.

Right on Jonathan !!

Bill of Rights
The main difference between the US Constitution and constitutions of other nations is that ours was meant to empower the citizens, where other constitutions empower the state. The government, individuals acting alone or in groups, can possibly possess any “just power” to violate any Individual’s God-given, unalienable rights or their supporting rights. No government can abolish or destroy nor can it rightfully and constitutionally, violate–Man’s God-given rights. Government cannot justly interfere with any of these rights. No President , no Congress combined, could possibly have any such power morally. Government can unjustly and unconstitutionally interfere by force with the deserved enjoyment of Man’s unalienable rights. It is, however, completely powerless to abolish or destroy them. It is in defense of these rights that the self-governing people acting in accordance with, and in support of, the Constitution–oppose any and all violators, public officials and usurpers.

Our Constitution should only be changed through amendment where 3/4 of all the states have to agree. See Article V of the US Constitution. That is the only way for the people to retain control through their state legislatures. Changing the Constitution in any other way falls out side of Constitutional authority and is a usurpation of unauthorized Constitutional power. The Constitution has an additional layer of protection against federal intrusion into individual and state’s rights. This additional layer of protection is known as our Bill of Rights.

It was in this sense that George Washington, as President of the Framing Convention in September, 1787, wrote to the Congress of the Confederation–in transmitting to it, for consideration, the draft of the proposed Constitution: “. . . Individuals entering into society, must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest.” Here he meant merely conditional relinquishment of liberty of action in the exercise of certain aspects of unalienable rights–not the surrender of any unalienable rights, which would be impossible because a nullity, a void act.

They should have hung them after they gave up !

“The Second Amendment isn’t about hunting, or target shooting, or even self defense. It is about the ability of the private citizenry to remove a government that has become tyrannical, by violence once all other methods are exhausted.”

Actually it was ALL of the above. While the primary intent was about the ability of the private citizenry to remove a government that has become tyrannical, by violence once all other methods are exhausted. The authors of the second were well aware of and took for granted the use of firearms for hunting and self defence. As for the target shooting that was often if not almost always a part of the training as part of the militia. As a result all mentioned and any other legal uses of a firearm were meant to be included.

As inalienable rights, they were protected by the 9th Amendment.

Remember, this whole 2nd amendment fight is all smoke and mirrors. When did you last hear a story about Bengazzi????? Look up a video youtube watch?v=fhqjnxKOTSc

Singapore is safe because of their swift and severe penalties. They don’t plea bargain. It is also why it is so clean. You can be flogged for spitting or littering. There system actually deters crime, but would be considered inhumane here. Our system is basically a joke to criminals. They still hang people and have mandatory death sentences for murder and drug trafficking.