Thanks for a good belly laugh, Mark Are Reynolds.

THAT is the problem…………………no control over who can get them!

Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely:
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/07/obama-hints-at-psychological-evaluations-for-gun-ownership-video-2443339.html

Oops, wrong link.
Try this one:
http://www.guns.com/cop-gun-owners-psychological-test-11031.html

More nonsense from the board Troll.

They didn’t need to “say” anything racist, everybody knows that. It is the fact that the perp was black that makes any comment “racist”. Thank you, eddie. Our very own pet troll.

Hey Atilla has two new recruits for his campaign!

Actually, they are protected under the Second Amendment:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,the right of the people to keep and bear Arms , shall not be infringed. ”

Notice that it says: “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms” does not specify “guns” as being arms. Therefore, anything that can be used to protect one’s self can be considered “Arms” and is protected under the Constitution..

AJ

One of the founders even explained for posterity what is meant by “arms” so that even a dumbed down populace could find a clue.

“Who are these militia? [A]re they not ourselves. Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American. . . . [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

- Tench Cox circa 1788
http://www.madisonbrigade.com/library_bor_2nd_amendment.htm

I stand corrected AJ,..BTW my “gun” shoots .67 paint balls,..lol

Motov.
I have a few of those myself .62 cal and .58… ( it’s been a long while since I’ve gone PBing tho). The .62 is an old Tippman that is full auto (10 rounds per second) The police used these as riot guns and shot rubber bullets. Now, I spend more time at the range…with 9mm and 7.62×39.

AJ

oops, I meant .62 and .68 cal. pn the PBs.

AJ

My first thought would be “Why doesn’t someone turn a gun on you” Since that’s in bad taste, maybe they could use a knife an cut your fingers off. Why in hell do you continue to post here. Are you reading these comments while you jerk off?

Bill says: “Are you reading these comments while you jerk off?”

That would explain eddie47d’s blindness!

My MY those old Conservative Religious myths never die!

Bill, You must have gotten in just under the wire. Usually crude comments like yours are deleted by the moderator.

Judging by the degree and regularity of his posts, I would say he is unemployed and living in his mother’s basement.

We don’t need extreme airport groping to ensure our safety.

http://www.scottbieser.com/sept11.html

Gee eddie, you don’t think football is a violent sport? You don’t think coaches encourage violence? Then why was Sean Peyton suspended for a year? Why was Gregg Williams suspended indefinately by the NFL?

Eddie says — “That was headline news for at least 3 days Cessna so where have you been”.
Do you have any references to back that up, Eddie? You know you have no credibility on this board.

Open up a newspaper occasionally Dave H. You must have missed it in Mises! Your credibility is the one lacking!

I didn’t say football wasn’t a “violent” sport . Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t and apparently MOMO thinks it is. Now should it be banned or improved MOMO? There’s pee wee football too MOMO so are we raising future violent citizens?

Easy Dave, eddie’s tired of being called, although repeatedly proven, a liar.

How about we start by letting all potential victims carry the best tool for self, family, community defense. That one little focus change will solve most of the other problems you mention needing to be addressed.

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/

How about educating kids at a young age that you don’t hurt other people. Having worked in the DV arena for 2 years, I’ve seen the havoc wreaked by domestic violence and seen the guys who get away with it time after time. Also heard of cops telling a woman raped and beaten by her husband: “You should have just given him the bj.” Domestic violence is a terrible epidemic in this country, especially in my state which is #2 in women killed by men.

Karolyn says:
“How about educating kids at a young age that you don’t hurt other people.”

Good idea. That is how I was taught. How about you? And we should teach them the proper use of tools.

Vicki – The problem is that children from abusive homes carry on the cycle. Good teachers and good programs at school might be able to change that. It is happening in a limited amount but not enough. The agency I used to work for had a program for kids in grammar school that worked in a primary way on interpersonal relationships. Unfortunately, I think funding has run out. It always comes down to money, when, in truth, spending the money now will save it in the long run. I believe education is the cure for all of society’sills.

Potential victims are just that – victims. That is their mentality. They bear it due to “love” and/or fear – fear of being alone, fear of lack of financial support, fear of retribution, etc. Many are not the type to even think about fighting back, let alone using a gun. They know what they have lived with their whole lives. To them a woman takes whatever the man dishes out because that’s what mama did, and “He really does love me. I just say (or do) the wrong things andmake him mad.”

I wonder why we’re afraid of the second amendment going by the wayside? Mainly beacuse the fourth amendment has gone out the window, thanks to the Patriot Act. Scaring Americans into giving up their constitutional rights is a favorite trick of big government. Having Bob Costas pontificate about how guns threaten our liberty rather than protect it is pure rubbish, he should stick to sports. If I wanted political commentary I’d watch MSNBC or Fox.

This isn’t just about guns, its about constitutional rights, rights that are easliy jeapordized by the fear mongers. Look how we got the Patriot Act, the fear after 9/11 took hold and the fourth amendment goes out the window. And if it wasn’t for an impassioned speech on the floor of the Senate by Rand Paul the sixth amendment would be gone too. Your first amendment rights have been reduced by HR 347, sorry you can’t protest on government property anymore.

Conservative nut jobs want to keep everybody locked up without the right to a speedy trial, liberal nut jobs want everybody disarmed, too bad the bad guys won’t go along. Thje dunm a$$ mayor of New York is tellin his residents you can’t have a big gulp soda. The question is where will it end?

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EACH AND EVERYONE WHO ARE AGAINST GUNS CARRY A SIGN THAT SAYS GUN FREE PERSON. HOW ABOUT IT YOU GUN HATERS?

If the Perkins lady had a 50 cal. handgun to defend herself, there might only be one dead.

Eddie has proved, time and time again with his ignorant comments, that we shouldn’t allow him to possess the deadliest instrument of them all — a Car.

eddie47d says:
“The Second Amendment protects that right yet you all run around pretending it will be ripped from the Constitution. Every citizen has a right to protect themselves,period. Yet not every American is qualified to own or possess a gun.”

Fascinating. Eddie claims a right exists and it is protected by the Constitution and even describes the right AND the part of the Constitution that explicitly protects the best tools for exercising that right. AND then says some people can’t possess the best tools for that right.

Eddie also uses citizen and American in ways that could imply they are not equal. Interesting to note that the Constitution doesn’t mention citizens nor Americans.

It says “…the right of THE PEOPLE….”

And it does not say anything at all about qualifications.

eddie47d says:
“Isn’t it amazing how the right always goes straight for the fear mongering threat they will lose the right to own a gun. ”

Isn’t it amazing how eddie keeps up only with certain current events.
http://www.infowars.com/sen-schumer-inaugurated-latest-anti-gun-frenzy-when-he-moved-to-take-firearms-from-veterans/

So now Vickie doesn’t think a person has to be qualified! What a rip! Neither is a doctors qualifications in the Constitution either but I bet you would expect it if you were operated on. Should we allow blind people to drive and you can be the passenger . We can all be ridiculous and that includes you. This whole article is fear mongering but some of you will never get it.

eddie47d says:
“This whole article is fear mongering but some of you will never get it”

Since the gun-grabber fanaticism is entirely based on fear mongering I fail to see how you can cast the first stones.

Sorry Eddie, and this will be the last response to you. You post the most ignorant writings
in the history of the keyboard. You should try to learn some facts before you go about convincing the world how little actual thinking you do. One of the things my daddy taught me was too never argue with an ignorant man. It’s just a waste of time. I suggest everyone else adopt the same attitude. Ignore the Ignorant.

hahahaha…True that!

Odds are he voted for Obama. One less Obama voter.

Warrior, that’s rediculous…he was black and therefor unacceptable to join up with the old white racists that are the core of the Tea Party Taliban. Well, that’s what the liberal progressives and the MSM keep sayin’ they are.

And here’s JeffH the racist again.

Steve E, please point out where I have ever been racist?
It was “sarcasm”, not racism!

Sorry Jeff Everything’s cool.

Actually there are blacks in the tea party movement. But they’re all Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas. Just ask any liberal.

The train did it!

That’s a real possibility considering that a gun is so much quicker and easier . Why waist time with a knife and just go for the clean and simple kill .

Try your reasoning on Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman, Eddie.

Or on the double murder/suicide by knife that just occured in Wyoming(?).

One was an arrow to the head but still an awful lot of irresponsibility going on in all these cases.

JUKEBOX, BINGO…!

eddie the guy did not kill his father with an arrow to the head. True he shot him in the head with an arrow but he killed him with a knife when the arrow to the head angered his father enough to attack him in self defence.

What a joke. Then why aren’t they being followed through. Would the NRA have anything to do with weakening the laws so more folks can be on their side. Now you would never think that even when its a real possibility.

No, Eddie, the Joke is Ignorant Liberal Progressives like yourself who have no clue what is reality and what isn’t.
More Guns, Less Crime:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8L7nqL1rs&feature=related

Death by Gun Control:
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm

THE GUY MAYBE ON DRUGS MAYBE WHO KNOWS BUT WE NO WHO FILLS UP AMERICAS JAILS AND PRISON ALSO WELFARE ROLLS THINK ABOUT IT PLEASE?

Are you suggesting these welfare people have too much idle time on their hands?
And if they were employed they’d be too tired to run around in the streets robbing,
and killing people?
And having a job would help solve their money problems?
Why did OhBozo relaxed Welfare? or undo what Bill Clinton did to welfare?

Vicki, you’re on a roll today! Yer killin’ me…

Steven Grumman eddie and others imply if not say outright that he had just purchsed the handgun possibly with the intent of using it to kill her. He had owned the pistol for over one year according to an updated article I saw in USA Today.

” He had owned the pistol for over one year according to an updated article I saw in USA Today.”

Liberals will just tell us he was stalking his prey.

The one person we absolutely cannot blame is Obama. Just ask him. He’s absolutely, under no circumstances ever to blame for anything.

Let’s blame an animate object for a change. The human who picked up the tool and used it to maim or murder a fellow human.

Nah. To scary to actually take responsibility for choices.

Yeah that’s true. Cain did kill Abel with a rock. My father was renting one of his houses out to a Hispanic man once, and I guess he was drinking with another man or something and he ended up getting bludgeoned to death with a concrete slab. So I guess we need to register concrete slabs as well (sarcasm).

The rich provide jobs,no poor person ever hired me,are you smoking obamas crack again?

Why do the “rich” think they can get away with scamming you Johnny. Because of suckers like you who bow down to them and allow them to get away such things as mortgage and credit card manipulations. Sure there are good companies out there but don’t be such a patsy for the crooked ones.

Eddie, be careful what you wish for. Conspiracy theorists say that the rich are working on the problem. Last I heard they plan to reduce the world population to 2 billion or less. All wealthy, or in their opinion useful. Are you rich or useful Eddie? O’dogma is!

How did the wealthy cause the collapse, Eddie?

Oh, eddie! Your drain bammage is showing again.

DaveH writes:
“DaveH says:
“How did the wealthy cause the collapse, Eddie?”

More importantly WHY would the wealthy want to cause a collapse?

Well when the greedy get Greedy they have a tendency to use other peoples money such as those on Wall Street. They over leveraged and over sold here and abroad thus causing the collaspe.

johnny – So because the rich provide jobs, they can just do whatever they want. BTW, where are all those jobs they’re supposed to have created since the tax cuts occurred? And, believe me, I am not envious of their money. If all that much money makes one like so many of them, I will not have it. The richer they get, the greedier and stingier they get.

Karolyn says:
“So because the rich provide jobs, they can just do whatever they want.”

Of course not. They aren’t government agents nor the TSA.

Karolyn: ” BTW, where are all those jobs they’re supposed to have created since the tax cuts occurred? ”

Destroyed when the democrat created housing bubble exploded in 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWrnUezDOU

“Well when the greedy get Greedy they have a tendency to use other peoples money such as those on Wall Street. They over leveraged and over sold here and abroad thus causing the collaspe.”

Why yes they did eddie, and as such they should have been allowed to fail….but who came to thier rescue? Who bailed them out? Who allowed them to do the things they were doing …in the first place?…the last 3 congresses did…so who is to blame? All of these people should have been prosecuted…but none were….and who’s fault might that be? Could it be those very same mebers of congress? Just a heads up for you eddie, when I say congress…I mean both parties..Republicans and Democrats ( I know, that’s a hard concept for you to follow).
You keep blaming the wealthy….when you should be blaming your representatives in congress…they allowed it to happen…and then they took our money to bail the thieves out…..and everybody in DC and Wall St. went home happy…at our expense….
None of these things could have happened….if Congress didn’t allow it to happen…period.

AJ

Edda, there’s all sorts of blame to go around. Problem is, there appears to be NO GROWN UPS to take any RESPONSIBILTY!

Yeah, eddie47d, your messiah Obozo is blameless, having been perfect in everything and with everyone. Take your own advise and open your eyes to the most corrupt administration in modern history, right behind LB J.

Yes eddie and you are totally blind

Nah, eddie is not blind, he’s too busy signing petitions.

Difference being eddie, was that when Bush took over Clintons major recession , with an impaired military and an intelligence agency cut in half, he never once stood there in the public square pointing fingers saying “Look what Billy did”, or wah, wah, we are in such a mess because of Hill and Billy. No, he went to work and made good. Now, Obama is still blaming Bush. Funny how within two years Bush tooks Clinton major recession, and had the economy rolling, not with no false .com bubble that wasnt real like Clinton cajolled around, yet Obama has failed at every turn, and still blames others. And sadly, I am ashamed that there are that many stupid people in this country that would see to it to buy into the lie and reward his bad 4 years, with 4 more. I guess these foreign countries are started to be proven right, we Americans are stupid. We proved it again in 2012.

Momo,
Eddie’s physician told him that if he didn’t quit signing petitions he would eventually go blind.
Eddie told the physician that he would just keep signing them until he needed glasses.

momo, LMAO! Let’s see now 52,560 + 308 = 52,868 from a few days ago and I’m sure he’s signed at least 500+ since then…I think he’s well above the 2 year average of 72 a day he claimed the other day. Go figure!

If you’re blind, you can’t see. The proper phrase is “None so blind as those who WILL NOT see.” Not actual blindness, willful blindness.

Nowhere did I say Obama was perfect far from it so To Tell The Truth isn’t being very TRUTHFUL!

Are you plastered again, Eddie? Dave234 wasn’t addressing you.

Ah, eddie. A bit too close to home? “The hit dog always howls.”

Who was addressing you hypocrite Dave H?

Vicki’s eyes are wide open, Eddie. Yours are purposely shut tight.

…and haven’t seen light in so many years, he’s forgotten what it looks like!

eddie’s problem is that he keeps looking out of the same window…and therefore, can’t see any other view the one he has. Kind of like starring at a painting…you’ld think that it would get boring after a while…….

AJ

Nope Average Joe I went to the eye doctor last week and I’m good to go for another year. Even my windows are clean…my wife did that. Yes MOMO I’ll be able to sign all those Petitions even better now. LOL!

I love analogies, I love the whooshing sound they make… as they sail past eddie’s head…

AJ

eddie, you’re not blind, you have your head so far up inside your ass you will NEVER see daylight. … or reason, or the truth. Obviously, logic is something totally foreign to both your brain cells.

Thanks I’m glad some people caught that. Calling him shrub seemed undignified :)

The above was posted slightly out of place. Sorry Eddie.

Vicki, I thought your first post was perfectly clear and actually humorous…and accurate.

A POS in a suit.

And your point is…?

Guns will always be available. It has been said before, “If guns are banned, only criminals will have guns.” It’s the mentality of the gun holder, folks. If he didn’t have access to the gun, some other weapon would suffice. You anti-gun people have severe tunnel vision when it comes to this issue. I carry a gun to protect my family and myself from those whose inadequate capabilities are not enough to withhold their violent mentality. Just think about it. Did Belcher actually think? No, he reacted with no mental ability to curb his violent instincts for which he was paid handsomely on the gridiron.

CZman75: That Conservatives are never as responsible or anywhere close to being responsible as what they think. Leave the smoke and mirrors at the rock concerts for its getting mighty thick in here.

eddie47d == Clueless liberal attempting to defer blame with a totally illogical statement.

eddie47d ,

While having an active immagination can be a good thing, having n overactive imagination can be detremental to one’s health. Please seek professional help for your delusions.

AJ

Annual Deaths in 2007 by guns (non-suicide) — 13,872.
Annual Deaths in 2007 by automobiles — 41,059.

Maybe that number could be reduced if we weren’t letting Unionists build our cars, Eddie.
(I’m being facetious of course, unlike Eddie).

Though not reported on the Lame Stream Media, death by suicide has just passed death by automobile accident.
Maybe they did not report it because the bad economy may have something to do with it and it might have been associated with the Kenyan running for president at the time.

czman75, eddies point is guns are bad and should have ever greater restrictions put on them until they are no longer available to the private citizen.

DaveH ,

Sometimesa, I am not sure whether eddie is wrapped too tight…or not wrapped tight enough. Either way, there definately seems to be a short…somewhere between the Keyboard and the Seat……

AJ

eddie says:
“Reckless gun deaths are a common problem ”
Are you referring to accidental shootings?
People who aren’t knowlegable about firearms should not pick up firearms, thereby eliminating a good number of “reckless” shootings. Anyone that owns or plans to own a weapon of ANY kind, should be knowledgable about the safe use and handling of that weapon…or, they should not own it.

“You can go after Liberals all you want but they are not the ones encouraging every American to own a weapon for pleasure”

Nobody went after liberals…I believe what was said…was…liberal “mentality”.
As for “encouraging every American to own a weapon for pleasure”, that is simply not true. We encourage people to own guns for thier own protection and that of thier families. We encourage people that own guns to be responsible in the safe handling. W also encourage people that own guns to head out to the range with thier families, so that everyone in the family knows how to handle firearms in a safe responsible manner… We believe that the more you use ANY tool…the more proficient you become with that tool…..That is what we encourage.

“Its Conservatives who continually fight background checks and encourage gun sales from the trunk of a car. ”

Wrong, we have no problem with background checks at all. We certainly don’t want want convicted, violent felons to be able to buy firearms, nor do we want firearms in the hands of mentally incompetent individuals….to even suggest that is insane. We do not encourage buying “from the trunk of a car” as you suggest, but rather we tend to buy our arms from reputable dealers. I just had a background check done again, last week… I just bought another new pea shooter and plan to hit the range next weekend.

I realize that I have just wasted my time trying to change you views, eddie, but it was worth a shot to make you understand that it is not the gun that we need to fear…it is the gun owner. I have been around firearms since I was a kid (I’m 56) and I have yet to shoot anyone (including myself). My firearms are not a danger nor a threat to anyone….unless someone threatens Me or my Family…then may God have mercy on thier souls…because I won’t.

AJ

I think you are the one that needs to seek help Average Joe. After Columbine it was gun owners/Conservatives who were adamant that their would be no background checks,period. So you are only making a feel good statement and not true at all. .

One thing is for sure, eddie is consistant, albeit igorantly consistant. Like a child does, eddie answers the attack on liberals with an attack on conservatives…very adult of him.
Tomorrow that attack could be aimed at libertarians, Republicans or even PLD and their staff because eddie was offended by a comment aimed at liberals, progressives, commies, Obama, his Administration or even the Democrats.

Never mind that eddie has always been anti-2nd Amendment and pro-gun confiscation…that’s been a constant for years now.
He’ll try to cover his arse with generalities and preceding an anti-gun comment with “I support the 2nd. Amendment” but…there should be more gun laws to protect the unarmed.

In eddie’s little world, 2 wrongs will always equal right, especially in the heat of an emotional moment…which seems to be the basis for most of his rediculous and childish comments.

Could suicides be up because of veterans of the mideast doing theselves in/

Karolyn,

Considering the fact that our troops are doing longer tours as well as multiple tours in combat zones, I would say that there is a very good possibilty that you are correct.
When soldiers are subjected to this kind of combat action for long periods of time, they become desensitized to death and dismemberment…they see it everyday from the enemy and from thier brothers in arms.
Once a person becomes desensitized to death, they can’t possibly look at life the same way again..those images are permenently etched in thier psyche. Many people can’t live with what they’ve had do at the behest of thier government. For those people, suicide seems to be the only way to find peace and reconcile thier grievances with thier actions.
It is a shame that these men and women have to be put through this kind of thing.

Wouldn’t it be nice if our polititians started a war…and nobody showed up?
Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone told the polititians that if they want a war…go fight it themselves?

AJ

Amen, Joe. I cannot imagine what it must be like for them. I can see the desensitizing in my friend’s son, who is a lifer, was in Iraq, Bosnia and Afghanistan. He has become quite a crude and tough person. It’s amazing he has managed to keep his beautiful wife.

eddie47d,
Psssst…eddie, I am a conservative, gun owner…do you have reading comprehension problems?…oh wait never mind…I’m talking to eddie….what was I thinking??

AJ

Eddie, you are absolutely right. Conservatives DO encourage everyone to own a gun. It’s the liberals who create the conditions in society that REQUIRE everyone to own a gun to defend themselves.

There’s a quandry here about guns I’d like to mention. I don’t have the answer(s). Maybe someone smarter does. It certainly isn’t the idiot liberal idea of ban all guns and let the oh so trustworthy government have all weapons.
Anyone has the right to own and carry a gun according to the second ammendment. I and most members of my family own many guns. But there’s the question of responsibility. I don’t want to see another bloated bureacracy, but guns are dangerous in the hands of fools. What’s gun fool? Someone who considers a gun a toy. Who has no clue about proper gun safety. Someone who gets their idea of shooting from movies. Point the gun in the general direction of your target and empty it. Mention precision firing to them and get a blank look.
To own guns is a responsibilty. A basic knowledge of gun safety and the ability to hit reasonably close to your target should be minimum requirements for gun ownership. But short of a DMV style horrible bureacracy, I’ve no idea how to accomplish that.

All one needs to do is compare those Representatives with the highest pro-gun rankings to those with the lowest pro-gun rankings to see which group, Democrats or Republicans, is traditionally the most anti-gun:
http://gunowners.org/113hrat.htm

List of Representatives (Republicans in roman, Democrats in italics):
http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/olmbr.aspx

So let’s take, for example, the top 20 Representatives as listed alphabetically:
Representative Political Party GunOwners’ Ranking
Ackerman, Gary L. Democrat F-
Adams, Sandy Republican A
Aderholt, Robert B. Republican A
Akin, W. Todd Republican A
Alexander, Rodney Republican A
Altmire, Jason Democrat C
Amash, Justin Republican A
Amodei, Mark E. Republican A
Andrews, Robert E. Democrat F
Austria, Steve Republican A
Baca, Joe Democrat D
Bachmann, Michele Republican A
Bachus, Spencer Republican A
Baldwin, Tammy Democrat F
Barber, Ron Democrat NR
Barletta, Lou Republican A
Barrow, John Democrat B
Bartlett, Roscoe G. Republican A+
Barton, Joe Republican A
Bass, Charles F. Republican B

Very good point Dave, but isn’t that the job of a political blogger? – Stir the pot?

No…but rumor has it he might have had something to do with massive CO2 buildups in our atmosphere…oddly, now that he has quit talking, the levels ARE going down!

“Kinetic1,”

I WATCHED THE Rae Carruth Trial ON Court TV. COURT TESTIMONY PROVED Mr. Carruth HIRED THE ASSASSIN BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT TO SUPPORT Ms. Adams’ CHILD. FURTHERMORE – ACROSS THIS COUNTRY – SEVERAL MALES HAVE DONE JAILTIME FOR NOT PAYING CHILD-SUPPORT.

SO, “Kinetic1,” WHY DO YOU THINK MY COMMENTS ABOUT Mr. Belcher ARE “FAR-FETCHED?”

His msg is absolutely fact,, every word of it,,You can spew your bs all you want to,, but they will continue to kill each other,, it will never stop.. Black men have no respect for women or children,, life to them is expendable,, do the research before you speak..compare the black prison population with anyother race of people.

Mike,
Compare the court trials and transcripts and see how racially imbalanced our “justice” system is.
“the Department of Justice found that blacks and Hispanics were approximately three times more likely to be searched during a traffic stop than white motorists. African Americans were twice as likely to be arrested and almost four times as likely to experience the use of force during encounters with the police.”

“African Americans comprise 14 percent of regular drug users but are 37 percent of those arrested for drug offenses. From 1980 to 2007 about one in three of the 25.4 million adults arrested for drugs was African American.”

“The U.S. Sentencing Commission stated that in the federal system black offenders receive sentences that are 10 percent longer than white offenders for the same crimes. The Sentencing Project reports that African Americans are 21 percent more likely to receive mandatory-minimum sentences than white defendants and are 20 percent more like to be sentenced to prison.”
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2012/03/13/11351/the-top-10-most-startling-facts-about-people-of-color-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/

The number of black men in prison is not necessarily proof of a higher “natural” tendency towards criminal acts among their race, but more often reflects the results of societal conditioning and bias. But hey, CAH says he’s black so he MUST know everything about what “NEGRO MALES” are thinking.

CAH,
“Of the 2.5 million poor nonresident fathers who do not pay child support, the two largest groups are black (41 percent) and white (40 percent), with Hispanic fathers (14 percent) accounting for most of the rest.”
http://www.urban.org/publications/310334.HTML

WOW! A whopping 1%! Black father ARE less likely to pay child support! Yep, your seemingly racist remarks are obviously just facts seen from a world where 1% is a huge number. You know, white men are often tried and convicted for failing to pay support as well.

“Kinetic1,”

YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A “GENERAL-” RACIAL ISSUE. YES – IT IS A RACIAL ISSUE, BUT, ONE WHICH IS BASED ON THE DIFFERENCES IN HOW NEGRO COUPLES AND CAUCASIAN COUPLES HANDLE AN ARGUMENT.

If you want real statistics, research Black on Black murders, compared to other groups in a city like Memphis.

“white” not “while.”

“Karolyn,”

FIRST – AS ALWAYS, IT IS NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU, MA’AM.

NOW – “Karolyn,” MA’AM, YOUR COMMENTS INDICATE A RESPONSE TO MY COMMENTS IN THIS THREAD AND THE “Females in Military Service” THREAD.

“Karolyn,” THERE ARE A LOT OF MALES WHO HAVE SEX BECAUSE IT IS A FUN THING TO DO; THEN, SOME TIME LATER FIND OUT THE “CHICK” IS PREGNANT. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE CASE IN THE Belcher Story.

MALES AND FEMALES WILL NEVER ADMIT SEX IS THE WAY TO SOLIDIFY A RELATIONSHIP. SINCE FEMALES WERE TAUGHT TO VALUE THEIR BODIES, WHEN THEY HAVE SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE THEY WANT THEIR BOYFRIEND TO BE A PERSON WHO IS “WORTHWHILE,” FINANCIALLY-SPEAKING. ON THE OTHER HAND, BECAUSE YOUNG MALES ARE TIRED OF FREQUENT MASTURBATION, THEY [THE 18-25 CROWD] WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH AS MANY “CHICKS” AS POSSIBLE.

NOW, “Karolyn,” WHEN YOU “THROW” MONEY “INTO THE MIX,” THAT 18-25 YEAR OLD MALE THINKS “IT’S A NEVER-ENDING PARTY.” Jovan Belcher ONLY WANTED “TO PARTY.”

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE Jovan Belcher STORY BECAME A GUN-RIGHTS ISSUE. YES – PEOPLE UTILIZE GUNS AS A METHOD OF PROTECTION AGAINST CRIMINALS. BUT, PEOPLE ALSO UTILIZE GUNS AS A METHOD OF EXECUTION WHEN IT COMES TO OTHERS IN THEIR CLOSE ASSOCIATION WHO HAVE “WRONGED” THEM.

FOR THE PAST – LET US SAY – THIRTY-FIVE YEARS, THE STRESSES OF LIFE HAVE CAUSED PEOPLE’S EMOTIONS TO GO INTO “OVERDRIVE.” WHEN SOMEONE HURTS YOU, YOU WANT TO HURT THEM BACK. IN THE OLD DAYS, FEELINGS OF HURT SUBSIDED IN FAVOR OF REASON. BACK THEN, IF YOU NO LONGER WANTED TO “DEAL” WITH SOMEONE, YOU SIMPLY “WALKED AWAY.” NOW, PEOPLE WANT A “FINALITY” TO THEIR HURT. IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, LIFE IS THE MOST PRECIOUS THING AN INDIVIDUAL OWNS. THEREFORE, CONTEMPORARY PEOPLE FEEL A “FINALITY” WILL COME TO THEIR “HURT” BY PRODUCING THE “FINALITY” OF THE INDIVIDUAL’S LIFE WHO HURT YOU.

THIS IDEAL IS THE REASON WHY THERE ARE “DRIVE-BY SHOOTINGS” AND SERIAL MURDERS. WHEN YOU EXAMINE THE CASES OF FAMOUS MURDERERS, YOU ALWAYS FIND A CULPRIT WHO HAD “HURT” THE MURDERER TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT THE “HURTED” PERSON TOOK ACTION.

GUNS PROVIDE A WAY OF TAKING ACTION. NO BAN OF FIREARMS WILL STOP SOME INDIVIDUALS’ DESIRE TO END THEIR “HURT.”

Absolutely right!!
American society (no matter what the political left wants) will NEVER ALLOW itself to be disarmed! Any attempt fo forcibly disarm the American public will only trigger another civil war. At that point, I can only pray that members of our military and law enforcement communities take their oath to support and defend the Constitution more seriously than ANY order to violate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To answer your question as to how this became a gun issue, consider Bob Coata’s rant during the football game. Here is a guy that stuck his personal opinions in the middle of a sports program and, in my opinion sparked the “Gun Issue”. Now, Obama has the “crisis” he needs to sign the ATT ( small arms treaty) with the UN.

guns kill people just like negro communitys kill each other? More whites kill whites by 10 folds besides, where do you find a negro community now days????
Can’t fix stupid can we?

“Charlie R,”

YOU FORGOT ABOUT AMERICA’S VIEWS ON RACE.

THE Belcher Story IS A “black-on-black” CRIME. AMERICAN CAUCASIANS ARE USED TO VIEWING NEWS REPORTS OF SUCH CRIMES. THEREFORE, THIS TYPE OF CRIME IS A PART OF OUR “AMERICAN CONSCIOUS.”

ON THE OTHER HAND, “Charlie R,” THE James Holmes Story [COLORADO THEATER-SHOOTING] IS THE “RIGHT-TYPE” OF STORY [a "white" shooter] TO POSSIBLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE United Nation’s Treaty.

“plumjam57″ – IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAS “BOUGHT-INTO THIS MULTI-CULTURALISM CRAP,” I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO YOU. DO NOT CONFUSE RACIAL CHANGES IN POPULATION WITH RACIAL CHANGES IN IDEOLOGY. RACIAL IDEOLOGIES HAVE NOT CHANGED SINCE THE FOUNDING OF THIS NATION.

“plumjam57″ – IF YOU WANT TO SEE A NEGRO COMMUNITY COME TO EASTERN ARKANSAS, NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI AND WESTERN TENNESSEE.

I have to ask the question…do you not know how to use the Caps button in the proper manner,unless your keyboard is needing replacement ????

To harass and intimadate the public!

Because flame throwers and rocket launchers are too heavy?

If all these people would put up signs , saying NO GUNS HERE , they would have home invasions after invasions, instead they hide behind the 2nd Amendment and curse we the people that have guns in our home.. p s I practice often and can call my shots most times………

The unfortunate death of this oman had nothing to do with a gun, but due to domestic violence. This football player’s hands were weapons in themselves. If, he was bent on killing her, he could have done it by chocking her with his strog hands. His teammates talk about what a nice person he was, was he? No one talks about the woman. Who knows how much abuse she took from him. This is not the first football player that has killed a wife or significant other, and I’m sure would not be the last. For Bob Costas to blame her death on a gun, is ridiculous and he should be fired. I think he needs to research all the violence against women by men, where guns were not used. Costas is a real idiot. e schmitt

I’m sorry to have to inform you,,,law enforcement officers do NOT carry weapons to protect you. They carry weapons to protect themselves.

Hedgehog says: “Because flame throwers and rocket launchers are too heavy?”

+1!

– Smoov

“elba schmitt” – YOU ARE ON POINT!

A NEGRO MALE WITH SOME MONEY “GOT INTO A SQUABBLE” WITH HIS WIFE AND THINGS “GOT OUT-OF HAND.”

PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS TRAGEDY WILL HAVE “FAR-REACHING CONSEQUENCES” – IN REFERENCE TO “GUN GRABS” – ARE DILLUSIONAL.

CORRECTION – [ME; 4:36 PM] MEANT TO HAVE TYPED, “GIRLFRIEND.”

The police do not carry firearms to protect you – they carry firearms to protect themselves. Funny! Isn’t it? They don’t want you to have the right to protect yourself but in a push-comes-to-shove situation the police will be protecting their own a$$ and leave you out to dry! The philosophy is all back a$$wards.

eddie47d says:
December 4, 2012 at 8:04 am
To harass and intimadate the public!
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Nope, the cops carry guns to protect “themselves”.
The same principle holds for all Americans.

Amen, Deena Schmidt. You told it like it is, but you will be attacked for it, for there are those in this world (and on this thread!) that think they know better than you, how you should life your life, and what you should believe. This is why our country is doomed!

HH, you are right on point. If, someone wants to kill another, they’ll find a way. I find that these so-called Super Hero players, think their way/wants are the only things that matter. Sports fans gloriified them and they think they deserve everything without taking any responsibilty for their behabior and/or actions. Bob Costas get a life and keep your personal opinions to yourself. e schmitt

NO!!! NO !!! NO!!! When are you people going to get it right? It wasn’t the man with the gun in his hand! He didn’t go near the victim. It wasn’t the gun in the man’s hand! It didn’t go near the victim either. IT WAS THE BULLET THAT KILLED HER!!!!!!!

I thank you for mentioning Kristopher Krum, the 25 year old that killed his father and his girlfriend with a cross-bow and two “very large” knives. He drove across country to do this and had applied for a gun permit before he made the trip. He killed Heidi Arnold in the driveway of her home when she had no weapon to protect herself. He killed his father, Jim Krum, in his classroom with students in the room. I live in the town where this happened, a red state that now has a conceal carry permit in place. A gun would have made Kristopher’s killing easier, but the killing was going to happen, that’s clear. If there is a better recent example of how shallow the “gun did it” is, I haven’t heard of it.