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The Repudiation Of Mitt Romney

November 28, 2012 by  

The Repudiation Of Mitt Romney
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Mitt Romney’s defeat may mark the neoconservatives’ last chance to win the U.S. Presidency. The re-election of Barack Obama, arguably one of the worst Presidents in decades, underscores how bad a candidate the GOP nominee was. The way in which conservatives have disavowed Romney in the past couple of weeks highlights the scorn for him and the neocon policies he wanted to implement in a world rife with war.

Perhaps Romney’s candidacy was doomed all along. What we are left to do in the next four years will be a test of America’s global influence.

Obama needs to avert a war and perhaps even a social uprising within the Nation’s boundaries. And in four years, the Republican Party needs to nominate a leader that will revitalize the United States.

As Conservatives, We Must Find Our Roots

Romney was big on what he was going to do his first day in the Oval Office had he been elected President. It would have turned out to be a very long day, because the Nation has a long list of things that must be done. And as bad as Obama has been, America decided that Romney was not the one to revive the Nation.

On Aug. 28, 2010, during Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally at the Lincoln Memorial, Sarah Palin addressed the crowd. She spoke out against Obama’s expressed desire to be a “transformational” President.

“I must assume that you too know that we must not fundamentally transform America as some would want. We must restore America and restore her honor,” Palin said.

In New York Times bestseller Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?, Conservative Patrick J. Buchanan writes of Palin’s message: “It is a contention of this book that America has been changed in our lifetimes, that a revolution has taken place, that though we appear to the world as the same country, we are a different nation on a course far off the one our fathers set.”

Buchanan’s book was written before Romney won the GOP nomination. Yet he speaks out against the very policies of U.S. imperialism that Romney embraced. Most important, warns Buchanan, is that America is further down the road to bankruptcy because of an ongoing expansionism that persists in Washington despite the cold truth that the Cold War is over. The Federal government has spent $1 trillion over the past dozen years in two wars. Yet instead of winning over enemies, we have created more of them.

Buchanan compares the United States to another superpower that imploded two decades ago: the Soviet Union. In his introduction he lays out his comparison:

“Will the Soviet Union Survive Until 1984?” was the title of a 1970 essay by Russian dissident Andrei Amalrik. Forced into exile, Amalrik died in a car crash in Spain in 1980. Few had taken him seriously. Yet, nine years after his death, the Soviet Empire had collapsed and the Soviet Union disintegrated.

What has this to do with us? More than we might imagine.

As did the Soviet Union, America commands an empire of allies, bases, and troops. America, too, is engaged in a seemingly endless war in Afghanistan. America, too, is an ideological nation. America, too, is a land of many races, tribes, cultures, creeds and languages. America, too, has reached imperial overstretch.

These are not the words of an anti-war liberal. They come from a staunch conservative. When words like these are not the rhetoric of the likes of Senator John Kerry, D-Mass, they are difficult to ignore.

Yet that is precisely what Romney was advocating: American involvement in Syria and other nations in the Mideast. It is getting harder and harder for America to be the world’s beat cop, especially with debts of $16 trillion. We are in effect borrowing money (by selling Treasury debts) from China to protect Taiwan from China, borrowing money from Japan to protect South Korea from North Korea and borrowing money from Russia to protect European nations from Russia.

Still, Romney announced that he planned to spend more to extend the global reach of America’s military, which is, by any estimation, huge. Defense spending took up $711 billion of the annual budget in 2011, according to the Peter G. Peterson Foundation. In fact, the United States “spent more on defense in 2011 than did the countries with the next 13 highest defense budgets combined.” Yet Romney wanted to add $2 trillion to the Pentagon budget over the next decade.

Many Republicans were not partial to Romney and his geopolitical ambitions. Romney should have brushed up on history. Fredrick the Great said: “He who defends everything defends nothing.”

This has been proven true for every empire from the Romans to the Soviet Union.

That Obama was able to defeat Romney underscores the problems within the Republican Party. Conservatives must repudiate not only Romney but also the neoconservatives in the GOP. President George W. Bush and the neocons in his inner sanctum cultivated America’s strategy in the Mideast and lead us nowhere but closer to a global war.

We have seen a decade-long abandonment of foreign policies of containment put down by Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Those were sound policies. The Republican Party and the United States must return to that strategy. We can only hope that four years from now won’t be too late and that we will have a better candidate than Romney. Otherwise, another Clinton may be President.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • http://davidsfloors.com Granpa David

    There is something going on that is very dangerous. Obama got 50.6% of the vote but won electorals by 330 to 206.The blue states dominate the red states. The blue states are spending themselves into bankruptcy and the feds will bail them out and the red states get punished for good management.

    • Flashy

      President Obama was re-elected with 53% of the popular vote.

      • Mable8

        NO, Flashy, your messiah, the liar in chief was neither elected nor re-elected by any majority. It has been well-established that the liar in chief rigged the election via ballot stuffing, rigging the machines, registering deceased voters and family pets, using illegal immigrants, and even having the audacity to have unknowns vote in the name of legitimate registered voters and then telling those voters they “already voted.” The sad truth is that your messiah, the liar in chief stole the election and if the legitimate votes were counted, he would most likely have only a mere 30%. People who STEAL an election are NOT THE WINNERS, BUT THE LOSERS. The day of reckoning is right around the corner–then what will you do?

      • Dave67

        Mable,

        Your tin hat is ready. Where should I send it?

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Dave67 History Speaks — Will YOU & America Listen?

        http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2012/11/24/history-speaks-will-america-listen/

      • eddie47d

        Why do “Conservatives” like Mabel lie so much. That was brought up about Mabel last week and she is still a very sore and blinded loser.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I agree with Mabel8, except that we are ALL the losers!!!

      • Flashy

        Dave67…it’s the aluminum beanie.

        BTW…don’t worry none about folks like mabel … I checked the other day and the secret FEMA camps are just about completed…

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        It will take a Breakdown in delivery of essential supplies before any kind of civil destabilization will lead to the need for Actions such as what you speak of Flashy . And that is Underway as we speak , we only need a Little more time to the Point that Nations begin to Interrupt their Export of supply like Grain to cause a interruption in the Financial of these markets that will open the gates of this HELL thats Coming … we only have 60 days of grain supply on hand at any given time in the world grain markets and it takes 120 days to plant and grow a crop , and with these crops being planted and harvested 2 times a year because of a Northern and southern Hemisphere growing season on earth the 60 days supply and declining every year since 1998s high of is being compromised by drought and 1 billion more people added to the Earth . the time bomb is ticking and no one is innovating any thing to alter this path we are on . Just One big disaster like a little stem rust like UG99 along with some droughts and we will get to see what Hunger looks like .

      • amusedinil

        Mable, it sounds like you have millions of cases of voter fraud that you’re not afraid to document. You should take this evidence to House Rep. Darryl Issa right away. He can call a House committee to prove every one of your charges, and he’s not afraid to spend the taxpayers’ money to get to the bottom of any scandal.

        This is so widespread, it ought to be very very easy to prove.

        You could testify to the committee, and be seen on TV as a hero saving America from the great election thieves. You should have no trouble finding enough fraudulent votes in the tossup states to justify your comments.

        Start with Florida’s 58,000 gap between Obama and Romney, then you’ll need just one other state to prove your point and change the election results!

    • Dave67

      No sir… Blue states like CA, IL, NY (Get lest than a dollar back from every dollar they pay into fed coffers) subsidize the leaching (taker) states like AK, KY, SC, AL and MS (they get well over a dollar back) because they don’t take responsibility for their education systems or invest in their state’s infrastructure.

      Obama was the electoral vote and popular vote because where people actually live, most voted for Obama. Sorry.

      • Mable8

        Dave67: The truth is, your favorite States: NY, IL, & CA are actually the taker States. And they never repay anything they obtain from the Feds. Furthermore, Romney DID win the election, but fraud prevailed. You know it, I know it, and so does everyone else know it…..the liar in the Oval Office is a fraud and a cheat.

      • Jeff

        “Dave67: The truth is, your favorite States: NY, IL, & CA are actually the taker States. And they never repay anything they obtain from the Feds. Furthermore, Romney DID win the election, but fraud prevailed. You know it, I know it, and so does everyone else know it…..the liar in the Oval Office is a fraud and a cheat.”

        From whence do your “facts” come? You can say Mars is red because it has cherry orchards. Your saying it doesn’t make it so. Romney won as did McCain as did Wendell Wilkie.

      • eddie47d

        Lying must be Mabel’s trademark and she proudly boasts about it. When “Liberal” California gives a dollar to the Federal Government they get .80 back. When “Conservative” Alaska gives the Feds a dollar they get $1.80 back . So who is taking more? The same can be said about several Red States who are either poor or have massive farm subsidies. Now if math isn’t your strong suit phone a friend if you have any! I guess I could just as easy call you the “fraud and thief” and be far more truthful about it.

      • Jeff

        It can’t be Mable’s fault. It must be that math is inherently dishonest.

      • DaveH

        Who would you spend the most on to sway his opinion — a person who agrees with everything you say, or a person who doesn’t agree?
        http://mises.org/daily/1677

      • DaveH

        Another point of view:
        http://reason.org/news/show/the-redblue-paradox

        As usual, the actual analysis is much deeper than most Progressives are willing to delve.

      • Jeff

        “As usual, the actual analysis is much deeper than most Progressives are willing to delve.”

        That may be technically true as most Americans of all political stripes are loathe to read anything that doesn’t reduce its subject matter to a cartoon. But the implication is totally wrong (i.e. that conservatives are more willing to read nuanced, detailed material). If anything, conservatives are far more comic book-oriented than any progressive I know. If an article doesn’t call Obama a Communist in the first 2 sentences, at least half the right wingers stop reading immediately. And since most people with advanced degrees tend to be Democrats, I think you’ve got this one wrong.

      • Flashy

        “Another point of view:
        http://reason.org/news/show/the-redblue-paradox

        As usual, the actual analysis is much deeper than most Progressives are willing to delve.” <— DaveH

        Didn't read it eh? The 98% in the Red States that tend as to vote against their interests have lower incomes, less education, are misinformed, and ignorant.

        I would add that they tend to be followers, not leaders, and are less likely to be independent acting i.e. more needing to be guided Chances are, also suffering from inferiority complexes and low levels of masculinity. thus the 'need' to pack a gun and pretend to be Wyatt Earp, love of war movies and action packed fanatsies, and there are some who claim to receive good grades in philosophy while never reading any of the Great Philosophers (right DaveH?)

      • DaveH

        Flashman states his usual equivocation — “Didn’t read it eh? The 98% in the Red States that tend as to vote against their interests have lower incomes, less education, are misinformed, and ignorant.”
        It did say that Red States, on average, have lower incomes.
        But it DIDN’T say that Red State Voters are misinformed. What the article did says was —
        “Why would voters in red states elect lawmakers who promise them small government when they benefit disproportionately from federal handouts? Why would voters in blue states elect lawmakers who support policies that redistribute their income to red states?
        One possible explanation is that the voters are misinformed”.
        That’s one lie chocked up to Flashman.
        And the article didn’t say anything at all about education levels in either the Red States or the Blue States.
        That’s lie number 2 for Flashman. Lie #3 if you count his “ignorant” claim which the article also didn’t address but could be lumped under “misinformed”.

        So, once again Flashman has shown his lack of credibility and so blatantly that any person could catch him at it. Flashman is a brazen liar.

    • DavidL

      Just helping you stay current, grandpa. The blue states have been subsidizing the red states for years. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you………

      http://www.voxeu.org/article/which-50-states-practise-personal-responsibility

      “The statistical reality is that the red-staters are, on average, less prone to pay income taxes, more prone to receive subsidies from the federal government, less physically fit, less responsible in their sexual behaviour, more prone to inflict harm on themselves and on others through smoking, drunk driving and misuse of firearms, and more prone to freeride on the healthcare system, compared to blue-staters.

      Economists have long known that, in spite of the rhetoric about ‘getting the government off our backs’, the red states receive more federal spending, net of taxes, than the blue states. Alaska, Mississippi, Louisiana, West Virginia, and the Dakotas topped the list of moochers in 2005. Despite Romney’s comments, it is the states with high percentages of people who pay no income tax that tend to vote Republican. Mississippi is number one, followed by Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas and South Carolina. The Democratic-leaning states of New England (comprising Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont), New York, New Jersey, and California are the ones paying into the federal treasury and subsidising everyone else. Updated data show the same pattern in 2007. The mid-Atlantic states, New England, Minnesota, and Illinois are the biggest net givers. Alaskans are the most dependent on the federal government, receiving $7,448 in spending (net of taxes) per capita. (That is not even counting the handouts of oil revenues that they get from their own state government). Those who claim to be fiscally conservative are the ones who in truth tend to be the biggest sources of deficits vis-à-vis the federal government.”

      • momo

        Gee, I wonder what the worst run state governments are…Hmmm…
        Illinois, Obama’s home state.
        Delaware, Biden’s home state.
        California, Pelosi’s home state.

        http://247wallst.com/2012/11/27/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-a-survey-of-all-50/6/

      • Karolyn

        How a about the Republican-run states like South Carolina and Louisiana?

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        Of course, this is just my opinion, but a lot of Red Staters are somewhat less concerned about handouts than they are about freedom and religion. If the handouts are there, they will take them. If they disappear, there will probably be fewer complaints than there would be from Blue Staters. Some people vote only for what they can get, and some people vote only on principle. In other words, I do not believe all of the discrepancy is due to misinformation. The Blue States believe that they must impose on those in poverty by helping them. I don’t blame them, I would feel badly about raping the South in the Civil War and Reconstruction Days also, if I were Blue. However, I believe that many of the states being helped would be happy to just go their own way.

  • Flashy

    Interesting how Mr. Myers begins by smack talkin’ trash against President Obama, and the other 90% of his article sums up the mess the Conservative policies of the prior GOP administrations have led us.

    Select any geo region of the world. Go ahead…any one. Europe? We’ve stayed out of the economic cauldron of toxic economic waters they have created. The Europeans followed the path of japan in the 90′s, and advocated with much clamor by the GOP in 2009-present. The results Europe attained are exactly those which japan experienced in what the Japanese now refer to as “the lost decade”. A decade in which the stability of their own exotic employed for life culture has been overturned and discarded. And, despite all pressures from Wall Street…President Obama has stood firm and not gotten us involved.

    Latin America? Well now, last i heard ol’ Hugo in Venezuela has been quiet. Who can forget when Katrina hit the US and the disaster magnified by the Bush incompetence and uncaring actions towards the citizens that Hugo and Castro BOTH offered to send relief supplies to the disaster areas. And when we were hit by a fuel oil shortage and the NE froze…how the Venezuelan company Citgo distributed subsidized low priced fuel oil to warm the homes of the NE.

    Africa? Still a mess…always has been. Looks to be in the decades ahead.

    Asia? Stable. Myanmar (Burma) is breaking free of the despotic yoke of the right wing military rule. Trade is strong. N. Korea is under control and contained. India is our real politik friend for now. Pakistan is tense..as it should be instead of blindly tossing it monies to support Taliban camps and we are effectively maintaining a controlling presence by using aid as well as being the buffer protecting it from India (and vice versa).

    We’re getting out of Afghanistan.

    ME Ther’s been enough written about the ME to well signal our re-emergence as an influence in the ME. For the first time in my memory, and perhaps of anyone’s here…we had protesters CHEERING the US and the Libyan President going on TV to publicly apologize to the US ! We brought a cease fire to the Israeli/Hamas conflict within 24 hours of sending our Sec of State to the region. We’re (so far successfully) tiptoeing through the political jungle of Egyptian transformation from despotic rule into a democracy. Syria appears to be heading for a 2013 resolution ending Assad’s rule. Without US military intervention I might point out. Iran is choking with the tight economic sanctions the administration has enforced and gathered international cooperation and support for.

    China? I know i know the extremists favorite bogeyman. Guess what? China is well on the path to having to deal with its own long ignored economic issues. Yes, they hold our debt…and are well beholden to us as their economy begins to become strapped as it struggles to meet the growing social pressures for more comfort and access to the world goods. strange as it may seem…you owe a little…the lender can shut you down. you owe a lot, and the lender does everything they can to keep you healthy. (they have a lot more to lose). And, if anyone has really stopped and looked over the lay of the land concerning China…it becomes very apparent they’re dreams of global or regional dominance replacing the US are gone, not discussed, and not forecast. A short simple picture indicating the path of China in the future. WalMart. It’s not undercutting the competition by much anymore these days as it used to, it’s growth is slowing dramatically, and…what is most telling in re; China..it no longer has 98% of its products imported from China. (down to about 80% give or take a few points depending on which selling season).

    Domestically? We have transformed this nation. The aristocratic hold is being broken. THAT is the most significant impact this administration will have achieved. The wealth redistribution that has gone on since 1981 is being checked. The distribution is being moved back to a more balanced system where the takers are being moved aside so that the makers…the Middle Class working man/woman can share in the wealth instead of passing it to the wealthy and Big Corporations.

    But the main reason the GOP lost? We can thank the Tea Party. In the first days of the GOP campaigns…the Tea Party knocked off the candidate which would have given Obama a run for the money…Huntsman. From then on, the campaigns required to win the nomination doomed any GOP candidate (ya listenin’ there Wayne Root? ) There were no forward visions put forth. Myers quote of Sarah “You can see Russia from my backyard” Palin is telling. The Tea Party promised one thing..and forced the GOP nominee..whoever it was going to be…to adhere. Promise only to move backward.

    The GOP ran the 2004 election in 2012. And got spanked…soundly and with emphasis.

    And in rejecting the extremists, gave the US the best XMas present this nation could have…we doubled down on America and re-elected a true lieader

    • One Happy G

      Thank you for an honest reply with FACTS and not rhetoric ~ “GOD” bless you!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Hee, hee, hee! flashy doesn’t believe in GOD!!! I’m surprised he hasn’t attacked you yet!

      • Flashy

        not true nancy…i don’t adhere to any cult dogma, thus your christian ‘god’, in my opinion, is nothing more than some creation by some guys sitting around trying to figure out what symbol to use to assert control of the masses …

      • eddie47d

        No Nancy but you are surely attacking Flashy. What happened to his right to worship or not to worship as he pleases.

      • DaveH

        Facts? You must be kidding. Flashman has no credibility on this board. Anybody, who would turn to Flashman for “facts”, must only get their information from the Propaganda media.

      • Flashy

        y’all just keep looking for a Mises link with a catchy title DaveH. You’ve shown a long time ago that Independent thought and analysis is wayyyy beyond your ability.

      • eddie47d

        How quaint Dave H you say that about everyone. Apparently you are the blogging Messiah and everyone else is beneath you. Boring!!

      • DaveH

        Like you’ve ever had an independent thought in your life, Flashman. I imagine it must take a committee of your personalities to get anything written down.

    • DavidL

      Great response, Flashy. I share, now as in the past, many of your views. Conservatives will remain in the wilderness (denial and irrelevance) until they do what is very difficult for anyone to do which is to look at themselves and stop blaming others for their shortcomings. This is more difficult for conservatives because they are not at all comfortable with change. As you, me, and others have said on this site many, many times, getting their “facts” and “reality” from Fox, conservative talk radio blowhards, and extreme conservative pundit sites such as this one only exacerbates their ignorance and alienation.

      • One Happy G

        AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!

      • DaveH

        What I saw in Flashman’s comment was a bunch of Generalized Claptrap which, since not specific, is difficult to expose as the Untruth that generally comes out of Flashman’s dishonest mouth.

      • Flashy

        LOL…sure DaveH..sureeee. Go ahead and give it a try. We all need a good laugh …

      • DaveH

        First Flashman you have to say something specific, something factual. Come on, you can do it. Just gather your personalities together and brainstorm one specific true fact.

    • Kay Cleveland

      It is Obvious that you are all for the Hitler tactics that have been happening since 2008, of which that election was wrought with intimidation, threats, violation of voter laws, rigged voting machines, dead people voting, people voting twice {just like 2012}, fake names, and even foreign terrorist money {voter lawlessness}. Without a doubt you also cannot see that God is going to judge America harshly for the God-less, sinful nation that was founded and dedicated to God in 1776. God blessed America, but he has frowned on America…and will be judged: Isaiah 9:10. Even God was removed from the DNC! Obama said he would “bring America to it’s knees”…and he in no way meant “Praying”! He hates America…shows no respect for the Flag, our Soldiers, our Constitution, our Bill our Rights, etc. Even football players make more money than the men who have fought to preserve the freedoms we enjoy…and many have died the last 216 years for every freedom….and stupid liberals are willing to give them away!

      • amusedinil

        And yet God, in His infinite wisdom, inspired more people to vote for Obama, or, if for those who choose to believe your comments, protected Obama from the majority’s vote through fraud, as He decided that His favorite country needed leadership more that respected people more than one that respected Mammon.

        For God created people, and man created corporations. And of those who say that “Corporations are people, my friend” are not friends of the Lord.

        His truth is revealed.

        Psalm 139:16:

        “Your eyes could see me as an embryo,but in Your book all my days were already written; my days had been shaped before any of them existed. God, how I prize Your thoughts! How many of them there are!”

    • Vigilant

      “Go ahead…any one. Europe? We’ve stayed out of the economic cauldron of toxic economic waters they have created.”

      Flashy, I would sincerely ask you to consider the following. We have not stayed out of Europe’s affairs. Thanks to globalism, we are intimately and intricately involved in her economic affairs.

      Much like the interlocking and complex national alliances that caused WWI, a mere hiccup in Greece or some other tottering European economy has the potential to bring down the whole system worldwide.

      I blame both Republicans and Democrats for this situation. Under the totally misguided notions on nation building, combined with corporate expansion and pressures on all sides to create a global economy, we have bartered away our independence from the multinational banksters.

      When the global economic crisis occurs, and I have no doubt of its realization within a few years, only one of two things can happen: either (1) the calamity will cause the nation to divorce itself from global interdependencies and regain some of its sovereignty, or (2) pressures will be so great for international (world) government that we will lose even more sovereignty than we have already experienced.

      I certainly hope I’m wrong, but I cannot perceive my thoughts to be pessimistic rather than realistic.

      • Flashy

        Vig…to a greater extent than you may want to think (signalling we may have a few traits and thoughts in common :) … I would agree with much of what you wrote. An much to give further thought to.

        To narrow down what i referred to as far as staying away from the European toxic mess…we haven’t offered economic aid or assistance to help the Euro’s bail out the Greece’s, the Italians, the Spaniards, the Irish etc… Obama has pretty much kept us out of that mess.

        I also understand your pessimism … but don’t share it. I realize the risk you set forth, and I agree it to be a risk. However, I think the likely result of the stagnation that Europe is headed for (stagnation brought forth as a direct result of adopting those measures the Conservatives insist we follow) is one of two possibilities.

        First…one has to realize that, at 415 trillion (est) per year GDP the US is not the largest economy in the world. It is second. The EU, at 17.6 trillion US dollars, has the top slot. The EU has 27 states, the US has 50. Think of it that way.

        in following the path led by President Obama, we are coming out of the Great Recession dealing with problems of debt and deficit. A much better position than debt, deficit, stagnation and economic morass that Europe faces. Ours is able to be coupled with continued growth with manageable debt and deficit. Europe faces the “lost decade’ Japan experienced.

        I can readily foresee the future years to be a battle of whether we…or the Russians…manage to garner a strong economic presence in the European markets. Import and export.

        Russia has the Caspian oil fields and the ‘stans, Siberia and the huge gas wells. All have pipelines leading ….. yep …straight to the EU. now…keep the ME all confused, muddle with Iran, feed Syria weaponry etc. not to disrupt OUR oil……but the EU’s ! If they succeed, they have the worlds largest economy by the testicles. think about that.

        However, if the US is successful in creating fossil fuel energy resources…paving the way with R&D and weaning not only us, but the industrialized world away from oil. we may not have the EU by the gonads, but we have assured Russia doesn’t, and we have those intervening years to grab all we can in economic contracts and resources while the EU regains footing.

        I don’;t foresee and world economic collapse. In any event, if it does occur…we’re all screwed. And if it does occur, it will be from China and the EU collapsing simultaneously…not the US.

        Anyhows…food for thought.

      • Flashy

        Edit issue..i stated the US GDP at 415 trillion….the $ sign was missed …it should be $15 trillion…oops

    • momo

      I wonder if ole flash in the pan has a deal with PLD to get paid by the word?

      • eddie47d

        Naw! That would be Dave H. LOL!

  • Chris Condon

    In retrospect, the resignation of Richard Nixon may not have been a good thing for America. Though despised by all right-thinking people, Nixon got us out of Vietnam (though too slowly), relaxed relations with Russia and China, gave us the volunteer army, and cut the military budget. Once he went, the Republican Party morphed into a party of perpetual war and military buildups.

  • dan

    good points Harold and Vicki….someone should tell the GOP that acting like Dems makes them….ahem….Dems. I’m still awaiting the actual counting of ALL of the ballots,but it looks like the party of Lincoln has once more wrested defeat from the jaws of victory.
    we need to re-examine what a republic is….a collection of independent/free city-states whose shared values and ideals unify their purpose as opposed to a centrally controlled empire.
    We need to decide if we are willing to sacrifice our blood and fortunes for liberty with a confederation of sovereign states or kneel in submission to despots in the District of Columbia micromanaging by dictate every aspect of your life .

  • http://GOOGLE Paul

    The problem with Mitt Romney running for President was that his views were not conservative enough. And he let the media dictate his views. The debates were rigged and slanted by the media. That was obvious in the second debate when the person in charge just happened to have the information the Obama needed and he wanted her to say the quote. The problem is the everyone, yes everyone, let the media which was on the side of Obama all along dictate their choices. As far as the Bushes go they are all progressives. I saw this week a quote where HW was for the one world government and wanted to issue it in and I am sure Jed is no better. Do not let Obama and media dictate your vote.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I can see it now! The writing is on the wall! jeb bush will be the next republicrap candidate for president! Nearly four years in advance I can predict that this will be! I also predict that he will win the primary and the presidency! Choke that down!!!

      • kathy c

        You don’t think there might be a Bush backlash? After all Oblamer is going to continue blaming Bush rather than own up to cleaning up his own mess. Off topic, my grandmother was born in Niobrara, Nebraska. Great state!!

  • Deerinwater

    John Myer; say; “The re-election of Barack Obama, arguably one of the worst Presidents in decades, underscores how bad a candidate the GOP nominee was. ”

    So true! very arguable! Mitt Romney is the product of the GOP ~ so should we focus on Mitt Romney or the machine that created him and propped him up for all us little people to see and behold his mysterious acumen to create money out of thin air which is as mystifying as the pregnant virgin Mary offering us the Christ child?

    • Vigilant

      Deer, the only entity with the “mysterious acumen to create money out of thin air” is the Federal Reserve. If you’re going to prioritize, disregard Romney who’s a bit player and focus your energies on the Fed.

      As for “the re-election of Barack Obama, arguably one of the worst Presidents in decades,” I would delete the word “arguably” and replace the word “decades” with “history.”

      And your gratuitous swipe at Christianity places you in the same category as Robert Smith. Hint: that’s not a compliment.

      • Jeff

        As for “the re-election of Barack Obama, arguably one of the worst Presidents in decades,” I would delete the word “arguably” and replace the word “decades” with “history.”

        You guys really do live in your own little world completely isolated from all facts. John Myers is arguably the stupidest writer I’ve ever read, but consider his readership. Obama had the misfortune to follow the WORST president in U.S. history. You clowns just want to blame him for everything that’s wrong when no one could have turned it around faster. He has prevented the worst from happening and is on his way to turning the economy around with no help from the Congressional Republicans.

        Here’s a clue. If one day your grandchild’s history book rates W higher than Obama, check out his or her science book and make sure it doesn’t list the 4 elements as earth, water, wind, and fire. Then, put them in a real school.

      • Vigilant

        Here’s a clue. If one day your grandchild’s history book rates Obama higher than Bush, you’ll know that Orwell’s “1984” has arrived. Big Brother will have revised history completely.

        And check out his or her science book and make sure it doesn’t list global warming as “settled science.”

        At that point, there will be no “real schools.”

      • DaveH

        Jeff says — “You guys really do live in your own little world completely isolated from all facts”.
        We sure aren’t going to get any “facts” from you, Jeff.

      • DaveH

        Jeff says — “He [Obama] has prevented the worst from happening and is on his way to turning the economy around with no help from the Congressional Republicans”.
        Could you be more specific, Jeff? Like what has he prevented? Or how is he “turning the economy around”?

      • DaveH

        Jeff says — “John Myers is arguably the stupidest writer I’ve ever read”.
        Tone it down, would you Jeff? I don’t want to lose one of our Liberal Progressive poster boys. If that happens, how will we expose to the readers the Real Depravity that you Liberal Progressive guys represent?

  • Jim B

    There is too little resources, and too little time to deal with the politics of now. Preservation and survival will be the challenge over the next 4 years. It probably would have been the same no matter who won. 16.5 Trillion dollars in debt does not a supper power make, and since we are as of this week out of money, the only choice, regardless of the upcoming rhetoric, will be to increase the debt further. When this is all over, and we are living in caves once more, then we may have time to bonder the future of politics and this country.

  • Frank

    It is easy to say that Romney was a “bad” candidate. Seems to me it is also possible to conclude that the majority of American voters at this time rejected conservative ideas. In my opinion it was issues and ideas that lost the election for the Republicans. Republicans and Conservatives are going to have to do a more effective job of explaining their position. At least for now, they are doing a poor job that is not convincing a majority of the voters I suggest rather than blaming individuals you balme a failure of ideas.

    • kellys

      What conservative ideas did the voters rejevt? I did not see any conservative ideas pushed by either candidate.

      • DavidL

        Read the Republican platform. Americans rejected it and the party representing it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        I be Damned if i am going to support this Party Platform when it was just a FAKE change they still Repudiate GOD and Jesus !!!!!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ha9o24Pfw

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      There were no conservative ideas and there were no issues! Neither romney nor the republican party represent conservative ideals! At the heart of conservatism is less government and more self reliance! Neither romney nor the republican party stood on these principles. And no real issues were discussed during the campaigns. They never once talked about “fast and furious”, Benghazi, Libya, the muslim brotherhood, the ndaa, the patriot act. They never made it clear what they would do about the impending crisis between Israel and Iran. They never discussed how they feel about the UN takeover tht is occurring. They never discussed what they would do about the foreign trade imbalance and WHAT they would do to encourage a return of the jobs. They never discussed the impending financial collapse and what they would do to either prevent it or how they would deal with it. They never discussed REAL ways they would curb government spending. They never discussed the upcoming expiration of the contract with the federal reserve and what they would do about it. I could go on and on and on but you get the idea. They never discussed ANY of the REAL issues, only the unimportant fake issues that serve as distractions!!! It was all as if they were following a script that was designed to put everybody to sleep!!!

      • amusedinil

        The issues you think Romney should have “hit” in the debates were YOUR issues, not “Undecided Voter” issues.

        Benghazi, F&F, Libya, the muslim brotherhood, the ndaa, the patriot act…all of which had been flung at Obama before the debates…the GOP’s and the Dem’s research showed that Americans who hadn’t made up their minds didn’t care about those issues. (If they had, both sides would have punched away!)

        Here’s yesterday’s take on Benghazi and public opinion from CNN’s Political Ticker:

        “Washington (CNN) – Americans are giving the White House low marks for how it’s handled the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, and the resignation of former CIA Director David Petraeus, according to a new national survey.

        “But according to a CNN/ORC International poll released Tuesday, a majority of the public doesn’t believe the Obama administration intentionally tried to mislead Americans on the September attack that left the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans dead.”

        In other words, it was a screw-up, not a cover-up.

        Romney, and Obama, had researched what was likely to appeal to these voters, and tried to “stay on message.” Romney had his “five point plan”. Obama had “his things aren’t great but we’re headed (slowly) in the right direction.”

        What made Obama a bad candidate to you obviously didn’t translate to the majority of voters across the country. I’m inclined to believe that while Romney made tactical blunders (binders full of women, e.g.), the overall strategic thrust of his debate points were strong and well executed.

  • Wayne

    I do not like to like I am a conspiracy monger. But this stinker called 2012 elections was a flat out joke. For weeks your pundits like Wayne Allen Root had Romney as a lock to win and his own words his said he never been wrong. I think Obama and Romney cut a deal before the elections were done for days on end they were in the same states, same towns, and Romney made stops in Pen and Ohio 2 states on day of the elections. If he was a lock like Morris, Rove, Root et al said he was then why did he need to do this? Then look like as soon as Obama got to 262 Old Romney boy was at the mike ready to roll over play dead. He did not need to do that he should have done an Al the Bore Gore and waited 120 days before & requested recounts after recounts. And remember how we were told Gov Romney was so successful if that was the case why did he lose in his own state hum ? Then you have Ryan nice guy he too did not win his state either. it boils down to this one thing called MONEY there was just to much money to be made and to much to lose and Romney being a money man and Rich fat cat figured he had to much to lose meaning MONEY

  • marcjeric32

    Another decent RINO bit the dust. Romney abstained to talk about Davis, Wright, Ayers; he did not mentioned the Fast & Furious murder coverup; he did not mention the Benghazi murder coverup; he did not mention the global warming hoax; he did not address the green energy conspiracy; he failed to describe the White House komissars (or czars); etc., etc. He brought a feather duster to the fight while Mullah Obama brought the Chicago machine gun.

    • Jonathan

      Where were you at during the debates anyway marcjeric32????

    • eddie47d

      There is no global warming hoax so enough of your FOX news spin. Lake Michigan is more than two feet lower this year and hasn’t been that low since 1918. Why isn’t this lake filling up with all the arctic ice melting from the North? Seems like you need to get out and see what is really going on. There is also no Benghazi cover up just a lack of coherent communication from various agencies. Obviously these agencies need to know their left foot from their right but no deliberate cover up. Two gun dealers were given prison sentences (6&9 years) for their roll in F&F I believe on Friday. There was also no deliberately “green” conspiracy if you really dare to look at the real causes and effects.

      • DaveH

        But there IS a Homogenic Global Warming Hoax.
        If you think skimpy anecdotal evidence is enough to dispute that, Eddie, then what about this?
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/coldest-january-on-record-for-parts-of-alaska/2012/01/31/gIQAQVyIfQ_blog.html

      • Jeff
      • eddie47d

        Every time the subject is brought up I bring up evidence. Put them all together and there is nothing “skimpy” about it.

      • Mikey

        Um Eddie, you just contradicted yourself. If there was truly global warming as described by the “internet inventor”, then the melted ice would INCREASE Lake Michigans level, not lower it.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        According to Sir Karl Popper, is impossible for science to prove anything, because science is based on experiments and observations, both of which can be flawed. Often, those flaws don’t become apparent to the scientific community for quite some time.

        Flawed experiments and observations, of course, lead to flawed conclusions, so even the most secure scientific statements have never been proven. There might be gobs and gobs of evidence for them, but they have not been proven.

        Karl Popper probably wrote the most important book related to this concept, which was titled The Logic of Scientific Discovery. Interestingly enough, he originally wrote it in German and then rewrote it in English. As a result, it is one of the few books that is published in two different languages but was never translated. The author wrote both versions. In this book, he argues that science should follow a methodology based on falsification. He shows quite clearly that while science cannot prove anything, it can falsify ideas that are currently thought to be true. He therefore argues that the test of any real scientific theory is whether or not it can be falsified. If not, then it is not truly a scientific theory.

        There are a lot of scientists who disagree with Popper that falsification is the key to whether or not a theory is scientific. However, few would argue with his point that science cannot prove anything. Indeed, the journal Science seemed to forget this fact for a moment, but an astute reader chastised the editor, who admitted he was wrong.

        The reader’s name is Charles L. Bennett, and he wrote a letter to the editor saying:

        “The title of the 6 May News of the Week story “At long last, Gravity Probe B satellite proves Einstein right” (p. 649)made me cringe. I find myself frequently repeating to students and the public that science doesn’t “prove” theories. Scientific measurements can only disprove theories or be consistent with them. Any theory that is consistent with measurements could be disproved by a future measurement. I wouldn’t have expected Science magazine, of all places, to say a theory was “proved.”

        Dr. Bennett is correct, of course. The editor, Colin Norman, admitted that in his response, which appeared right under the letter:

        “Bennett is completely correct. It’s an important conceptual point, and we blew it”.

        Unfortunately, as long as science magazines and teachers are sloppy enough to keep

        using phrases like, “science has proven,” it will be hard to teach children the truth.

        http://blog.drwile.com/?p=5725

      • eddie47d

        Mikey: The Arctic melts into the oceans not Lake Michigan.That could prove that the damage is already done and not enough fresh water is going into the Great Lakes.

      • DaveH

        Of course I didn’t mean that as a serious refutation of the ManMade Global Warming Hoax, Jeff. If you would improve your reading comprehension, you would see that I was merely using anecdotal evidence in the same non-scientific way that Eddie was. Sarcasm, you know.

        Meanwhile for the people who seriously buy in to the scam there is this:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ

      • DaveH
      • DaveH
      • DaveH

        There is a wealth of information out there for anybody who hasn’t had their blinders super-glued on.
        Here is just one of several books written by Christopher Horner which exposes the Homogenic Global Warming Hoax for the Political Scam that it is:
        http://www.amazon.com/Power-Grab-Policies-Freedom-Bankrupt/dp/B0058M65UO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1354138717&sr=8-2&keywords=christopher+horner

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        eddie47d says:
        November 28, 2012 at 10:17 am
        Every time the subject is brought up I bring up evidence. Put them all together and there is nothing “skimpy” about it.

        eddie47d, I have NEVER seen you put up evidence for ANYTHING!!! You just LIE and make up crap!!!

      • eddie47d

        I sure have Nancy so take your lies someplace else.

  • Pat Henry

    Miss Warren,

    The army has no respect for their women Soldiers. I am sorry that you have been
    victimized. Our great nation is being destroyed by these fake wars and those that support such criminal policies. When one is ‘thanked’ for their service, here is the proper response. One, it is not what you think. Second, we served a very corrupt government. And three, that
    our Soldiers are dying for nothing. .Enough said, vote third party.

  • joszsrepublicanpage

    Mitt is a good man but the socialist press worked against him .

  • http://Nowebsite John DeLellis

    Your article is so inaccurate , Sir. All of the media are spewing out predictions based on the election figures. I’m telling you right now that the whole country will continue to be so inaccurate until we address the major, very major problem —VOTER FRAUD! The 2012 election is more corrupt than any other election in the world and all the ,”garbage mouth Polititions and blow fish news media just ignor it even though it is the one and only thing that’s going to kill us . Even premier Obama said the people are going to see that I am elected. The corruption had already been preordained. As always my comment will go unread — I WOULD ADVISE THAT ALL WHO VOTED FOR ROMNEY ; go underground — why not ; our votes don’t count anyways!!

    • DaveH

      Fraud or Not, the country will continue to decline until people come to grips with what Freedom truly is. And that won’t happen until we do something about Government involvement in our School Systems, where they purposely keep the children dumbed-down to the concepts of Freedom. We have all been severely Propagandized during our lives and that won’t change until we change it.

      • Mikey

        Come to think of it, I was served Kool-Aid in grade school once or twice.

    • amusedinil

      Where’s your evidence of widespread voter fraud? And is there any reason to believe that it’s all on one side?

  • Yoyita

    YOU ARE SO WRONG, ROMNEY WAS GOING TO BE A REAL HOPE AND CHANGE, OBAMA WONG THANKS TO THE ELECTORAL THAT WAS BOUGHT BY HIM, AND ALL THE FRAUD
    ON THE ” CHAVEZ STYLE” COMPUTERS AND ALL THE TAKERS. SIMPLE AS THAT, JUST WAIT SEAT ON A CHAIR AND YOU WILL SEE WHATS COMING.

    • Sylvia

      I agree Romney lost because Obama gave things away.
      Obama knows how to play the people give them a cell phone and food stamps and they will follow you anywhere. I think Romney was our last chance to save this country.

      • Doc Sarvis

        The Romney/Ryan plan was to give even more to the top 1%. We are NOT seeing more jobs created by these so-calle “job creators”.

    • eddie47d

      Romney actually spent more than Obama so maybe he is the one who “bought” the election. Now if Romney is your “last best hope” then you better do a lot of soul searching,pack your bags and head to the Cayman Islands.

  • John

    Of course Romney’s candidacy was doomed from the start. Obama’s team salivated at running against him. He was a fat cat Wall Street type who passed an Obamacare in Massachusetts. They were scared to death about being hammered about Obamacare. Romney’s nomination took that off the table.

  • http://wyrdpooka.blogspot.com/ adrienne warren

    eerrm well humm., as a gal and a rape survivor, and a former soldier (army) , until the GOP gets over their rape fantasies, my body may not be able to ‘shut the whole thing down, but my vote (among many many others, gosh the
    GOP is turning into an all boys frate house. notice all the new GOP chair heads are men, not single GOP woman? ) did and will continue to do so. Ya all might want to take note, Women vote in higher numbers then men, and you’r GOP leaders are not talking to women their talking down to them and boys we heard you loud and clear.

    • Kim

      That is just not true! We have women and minority governors! Alan West was cheated out of his seat! Mia Love was so inspirational! The Dems have done a great job with the fabrication of the war on women. In the Middle East well there is the true war on women! We are blessed in this country and the scare tactics that Dems use to separate our country are getting old!

      • eddie47d

        Your spokespersons like Limbaugh or Aikns attack women yet you can say with a straight face that there isn’t a “war” going on. The Right needs to take responsibility for what the far right talking head spew out just like the Democrats have to. Why is it that when a Democrat wins you always say it is because of cheating? Yet when a Republican wins its always the will of the voters.

      • Jeff

        Allen West was cheated by the voters not voting for him? In Kim’s World, has any Democrat ever been legitimately elected to any office?

      • Bob666

        Kim,
        I live in Florida. Alan West was not cheated out of his seat, he spent his time playing with the TEA-Baggers as opposed to representing his Constituents. You get elected by a majority vote by those you represent and when you fail to represent the needs and desires of your Constituents, they vote you out of office. Did you not take a civics lesson growing up?

        Alan West was an embarrassment to those he was suppose to represent.

  • vietnamvet1971

    The next 4 years will tell the Rest of the Story, the first 4 years was a Story of Fiction. The jury is out on the Verdict of this Socialist president but only time will tell the Tale of this Experiment.

    • Doc Sarvis

      If President Obama was really trying to install socialism in our country how come Wall Street is doing so well, and how come so many multi-national are hoarding trillions in cash overseas, and how come there are 20 defense contractors who receive more money than the entire food stamp program?
      IF President Obama has “failed” at anything it is at being a socialist!

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Doc you are right , Marxist Communism is more what the policies of Obama and Congress have created looks like …. and even the Russians think so too !!!

      • Kate8

        A New Declaration of Independence: Impeach Obama Now

        http://www.bobpowell.blogspot.com/

        You have to scroll down to this video. It is a declaration of independence from the current corrupt system, and a summary of Obama’s treason. I’m sure there are things the libs don’t even know about. (They’ll probably give him a pass, anyway, treacherous louses that they are.)

        It’s time, folks. It’s nearly too late.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Make sure to put on your tin foil hats before viewing the video Kate8 is referring to.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Doc Sarvis: If President Obama was really trying to install socialism in our country how come Wall Street is doing so well, and how come so many multi-national are hoarding trillions in cash overseas, and how come there are 20 defense contractors who receive more money than the entire food stamp program?

        You still don’t get it, do you dumbbell? Obama is not who you think he is…his true identity is in the answers you unknowingly posted as questions!

      • Jeff

        Doc doesn’t know the ground rules in this ball park. If the market goes up, it’s because of Reagan. If it goes down, that’s because of Obama. Fortunately, in the world outside this cave are people who can see the truth. They tend to laugh at the paranoids who never leave the cave.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Jeff: Fortunately, in the world outside this cave are people who can see the truth. They tend to laugh at the paranoids who never leave the cave.

        So what’s your reason for never leaving the cave, Jeff?

      • Jeff

        I come here to be amused. I’m thinking of writing a book. Most people would not believe some of the crazy stuff you can find here. I think of myself as Margaret Meade, introducing the public to a rare subspecies, the Paranoid Obamaphobe. This is its natural habitat.

      • Kate8

        So, Doc. The video is a RE-Declaration of the original Declaration of Independence, and lists the grievances against Obama, which are all documented.

        Are you saying that only tin-foil hats will stand for such a reDeclaration? Do you think the original Declaration is a joke?

        It’s asking people to stand and reassert their freedom and sovereignty. If you think this is funny, then you really are the traitor you appear to be.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Jeff: I come here to be amused.

        Based on your comments, it appears you are anything but, amused.

        Jeff: I’m thinking of writing a book.

        Did you know that the majority of suiciders who threaten to jump never actually do?

        Jeff: Most people would not believe some of the crazy stuff you can find here.

        Agreed, an information-rich environment.

        Jeff: I think of myself as Margaret Meade, introducing the public to a rare subspecies, the Paranoid Obamaphobe.

        Are you saying you are or you want to be Margaret Meade?

        Jeff: This is its natural habitat.

        Rather remarkable how you’ve adapted.

  • Pat Henry

    Doctor Ron Paul was the last hope for America. The GOP cheated him out of his role
    to save the nation. Their fraud in the primaries was only matched by the communist on
    the Left. How can anyone believe and support such useless parties?

    • DaveH

      NOT our last hope, but he certainly would have been good for the country.
      For Personal Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Limited Government, Free Markets, and the PEACE that comes from those, Vote Libertarian:
      http://www.lp.org/platform

    • Mikey

      Pat, there is a good chance his son, Rand, will run. I believe he has most of the same values as his father. So, there is hope.

      • DaveH

        Rand Paul endorsed Romney. Enough said.

      • Mikey

        I know, I was shocked when I heard that. However, I still think he has greater honesty than any other potential candidate. And all his legislation directly improves liberty and the citizenry of this country.

  • Cathy

    Romney and Paul were/are idiots!!!!! The people saw through Romney and so did I. Take off the rose-colored glasses, Obama was/is the best man for the job. You will see!

    • czman75

      I want some of what you are smokin’! What exactly is ovomits job?, to turn this country into communist moozie country. Yeah, he is the right traitor for that job!

    • kellys

      Shouldn’t we have seen this by now?

      • eddie47d

        CZMAN75 is why and hopefully the Republicans keep losing. Listen to their incoherent rants. The same ones who predicted Martial Law would be in place when Obama was elected in 2008. That the 2012 election would be cancelled.(dozens said that). That we will be a Banana Republic (not even close). Gotta love the birther theories or the Muslim hype or the “Obama is absolutely gay” diatribe. Republicans and the far right have become useful idiots for expanding insane asylums. I reckon that is the best they can hope for since they didn’t get their activated FEMA camps. They all said that was the gospel for the last four years and none of it happened. Yet they insist THEY want to run the country?!

      • Mikey

        Ok Eddie (and Cathy), please name one thing Obama has done, to improve life in this country for the middle-class working man. Everything he has implemented (Bush’s fault or not), has made my life more difficult and expensive.
        Go ahead, name one.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Free Cell Phones Original Obamaphone Lady: Obama Voter Says Vote for Obama because he gives a free Phone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Look how slick Obama and the Dems and Rinos have Fundamentally Transformed Our USA ??? and they have put in Place all the tools to Become the Ruling class and the reason why this is being allowed is because the rest of the world leaders have been after this goal for ever and so they are continuing to Supply us with our Needs that we have become Dependent on with the Out sourcing of our Industrial Capability which has made us all SERFS , Op-Ed: Pravda, former Soviet Communist paper, says Obama is ‘Communist’

        Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/337780#ixzz2DXFL2aMI

      • Mikey

        LOL, Tony, I’m not on welfare , I have to pay for my own cell-phone still.

        What, still no answers from Eddie or Cathy? Gee, I guess I should be surprised they have no answer.

      • Jeff

        Good for you, Mikey. But isn’t unfair how they have soup kitchens for homeless people while you have to buy your own soup? You should show up and demand your share of the soup.

        The phone program you joke about was set up under Reagan, not Obama:

        Since 1985, the Lifeline program has provided a discount on phone service for qualifying low-income consumers to ensure that all Americans have the opportunities and security that phone service brings, including being able to connect to jobs, family and emergency services. In 2005, Lifeline discounts were made available to qualifying low-income consumers on pre-paid wireless service plans in addition to traditional landline service. Lifeline is part of the Universal Service Fund.

        The Lifeline program is available to eligible low-income consumers in every state, territory, commonwealth, and on Tribal lands. Consumers with proper proof of eligibility may be qualified to enroll. To participate in the program, consumers must have an income that is at or below 135% of the federal Poverty Guidelines or participate in a qualifying state, federal or Tribal assistance program.

        To participate in the program, consumers must either have an income that is at or below 135% of the federal Poverty Guidelines or participate in one of the following assistance programs:

        Medicaid;
        Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps or SNAP);
        Supplemental Security Income (SSI);
        Federal Public House Assistance (Section 8);
        Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP);
        Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF);
        National School Lunch Program’s Free Lunch Program;
        Bureau of Indian Affairs General Assistance;
        Tribally-Administrered Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TTANF);
        Food Distribution Program on Indian Reservations (FDPIR);
        Head Start (if income eligibility criteria are met); or
        State assistance programs (if applicable).
        Federal rules prohibit eligible low-income consumers from receiving more than one Lifeline discount per household. An eligible consumer may receive a discount on either a wireline or wireless service, but not both. A consumer whose household currently is receiving more than one Lifeline service must select a single Lifeline provider and contact the other provider to de-enroll from their program. Consumers violating this rule may also be subject to criminal and/or civil penalties.

        The Lifeline program is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC). USAC is responsible for data collection and maintenance, support calculation, and disbursement for the low-income program. USAC’s website provides information regarding administrative aspects of the low-income program, as well as program requirements.

        On January 31, 2012, the Commission adopted comprehensive reform and modernization of the Lifeline program. As a universal service program that fulfills Congress’s mandate to ensure the availability of communications to all Americans, Lifeline for the past 25 years has helped tens of millions of low-income Americans afford basic phone service. Access to telephone service is essential for finding a job, connecting with family, or getting help in an emergency, and the percentage of low-income households with phone service has increased from 80% in 1985, when Lifeline began, to nearly 92% last year.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Why Did Obama Politicize this Phone benefit as his Own as all these Voters saw Him as the One who Gave them a FREE Phone then Jeff ?

        Looks like Romney should have made a Big Deal Out of this Benghazi screw up then !!!!

      • Mikey

        Jeff, I didn’t ask for the requirements for a friggin “Obamaphone”! A cell phone is a luxury item, not a necessity such as food, water and shelter. The phone company offers basic 911 access at no charge to those truly in need (and not at taxpayer expense like the cell phones).

        I’ll ask you, since Eddie and Cathy have no answer: Name one thing that Obama has done to improve the lives of the middle-class working man.

        You can’t, because he has only enabled the parasites more, while pandering to the big government unions, big corporations (GM, Chrysler, Solara) and of course, the banksters. And “We the People” get screwed.

      • Mikey

        Correction: Solyndra not Solara.

      • eddie47d

        I’m not at your beck and call Mikey so cool your heels! Oil and gas production is up which has helped to stabilize home heating costs. The Republicans predicted gasoline would cost $10 come election and are wrong again!. Your glass is always half empty Mikey because you chose to only see the negative half.

      • Mikey

        Nice try Eddie. Gas is still a dollar a gallon more than it was when Obama took office. Yes it came down slightly in the last few weeks, but that doesn’t mean squat compared to the previous 3 1/5 years.

      • Jeff

        Yes, we should drive the economy off a cliff like it was headed in early 2009, all so demand will dry up and you can buy gas for your guzzler at $1.80 a gallon. W ’16.

      • Mikey

        Jeff, I’m not sure what your point was here. My comment was a rebuttal to Eddie’s comment about the supposed lower fuel prices in response to my initial question: “name one thing Obama has done to improve life for the middle-class working man”.

        And still no (truthful) answer.

      • Mikey

        Oh and Jeff, I parked the guzzler. I guarantee my daily driver gets better fuel economy than yours….it’s all electric.

      • eddie47d

        Please learn to read Mikey. I did give you the one answer you asked for and then a little extra. Apparently all you chewed on was the extra. LOL!!

      • Mikey

        Okay Eddie, in all fairness, I’ll have to do some research. I bypassed your comment about heating oil because I live in a part of the country where it is not used. If indeed my research shows that the cost of heating oil has actually gone down during the Obama administration, I will concede the point to you.

      • Mikey

        Nice try again Eddie. It turns out that the overall price of heating oil has continued to rise throughout Obama’s reign. Yes, it’s down about $.20 a gallon, just like gas, but it’s still a dollar a gallon more than it was when Obama took office.
        Here’s where I get my information (I selected Maine since it’s the furthest north and probably uses more heating oil than other Atlantic states):

        http://www.maine.gov/energy/fuel_prices/archives.shtml

        So, I rest my case. Obama has done NOTHING that improves the quality of life for the average Joe.

    • randall

      hahahaha, there is not a dime’s worth of difference between the two parties. both are for big govt solutions, with our country borrowing 40cents of every dollar spent, you would have to cut the govt by 50% to start to get out of this mess, neither party will or can do this. folks, it is up to us, get to know your neighbors, grow some food, store some food, learn what edible plants (weeds) grow around you, get out of debt, free yourself from the collapsing western democracies (dictatorships), become self-relient

      • JC

        Randall you’re spot on but this country is no longer capable of doing what you sugeest. That’s part of our enslavement.

    • hipshotpercusion

      Keep drinking that Kool Aid Cathy!

    • Bill

      Cathy,
      Put your money where your mouth is and invest in government bonds. You must also be a public sector worker

  • Paul Wells

    I find it interesting that some believe we can return to a 1930′s~1940′s era “laissez faire” attitude towards 3rd world and foreign governments, when the world itself has changed, rather dramatically, in that time. You didn’t have the USSR and China selling the latest weaponry to every Ayatollah that wanted them. This is the problem I’ve had all along with the pure orthodoxy of the Libertarian platform. While the idea of letting things sort themselves out on the world stage has appeal, no doubt, the reality is, bad things happen when we’re not looking. I’m not saying we have to be world cop, but simply protecting our borders is just not enough. Mitt understood that, and although I believe the real reason he didn’t win, is because he can’t [expletive deleted] the American people the way OFlex can. People are no longer concerned with facts and reality, and would rather go smoke a doobie with a guy who likes hoops, can sing a little Al Green, and will lie straight to their faces and tell them he understand them, and is here for them.

    • Jonathan

      Paul, You’ve been listening to the main stream media too much. WAY TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!

      • TIME

        Dear Jonathan,

        DiDITO on that……… Saddly thats the case 90% of the TIME, ~ the sad fact is that no matter how many times you explain ~ { that the Mass Media is 100% controlled,} these people would rather live in “”La La land”" and go along to get along.
        With the same mindless go back to thye 40 / 50′s rhetoric, if this is not fixed we will not be going back to the 40 / 50′s it will be more in line with the stone age!
        Thats what Progressives think is Progress.

        At one point in time we had the “American Can Do Sprit” are now saddly the American submissive Sheep is the norm.

        Only when Men are Men can we stand a chance of taking back our nation from the Bankers of the world. Who do really run this nation, but still so many wish to argue about what the R or D’s are going to do.

        Saddly ~ the 20 second sound bite crew clings to the sinking ship in hopes of a savior who will fix all the porblems. It all starts with EACH of US!

        Its all based in ~ MORALS and MORAL FIBER that will repair this nation and nothing less.

        Peace and Love be with you

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      So, Paul! Do you think that defense means that WE get to choose the leaders of every country? Do you think that it means that if they don’t do what we want, we should bomb them? Do you think that defense means killing thousands of innocent women and children? Do you think that defense means that everybody in the world has to do what we say? Not ONE of the wars that has taken place in my lifetime had anything to do with defense!!! We were the offensive parties in every one of them!!! We have become what Russia was. We are the ones who are trying to take over the world! The results of this is that peoples all over the world HATE us! NOW we have to worry about enemies! BEFORE, we were safe! Our government can’t be bothered with defense! We’ve had Russian submarines patrolling our shores and Russian jets patrolling our air space but we can’t be worried about that! Our border with Mexico is wide open for ANY of our enemies to walk right in! Our government is not worried about defense because it is busy carrying out so many offenses!!! They accuse US of being the terrorists while in truth, THEY are the terrorists throughout the world!!! the United States of America is NOT the country that it once was! Our enemies have infiltrated our country and is using it to carry out their evil purposes!!! We need to get them out of our country and then get our country out of all of the others! Let everyone choose their own destiny!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        The Class Warfare Pandora’s Box has been opened by Obama and there is NO Stopping it now , it will have to run its course !!! Heres a Debate I am having on another site and it shows the example of How better than 50 % of the People are thinking and this will feed on itself till free markets collapse completely !!!
        http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/11/27/5-Dont-Blame-Me-Plans-on-the-Fiscal-Cliff-Table.aspx#page1
        bob eddy wrote, in response to hungry4food:
        A “supply side” economy does not grow. That is how we got into the mess we did in 2008. Quite simply, it doesn’t matter how much cheap cr*p you flood the economy with if people do not have jobs and the means to buy it. During the Bush years people were able to buy the cheap cr*p because of an extraordinarily relaxed credit market and they were able buy in spite of declining wages and declining employment that, as we saw, was not sustainable.
        Link to comment
        hungry4food wrote:
        Question regarding the Fiscal Cliff , has President Obama become the Monte Hall in the Game Show ” Let’s Make a Fiscal Deal ” ,http://oi45.tinypic.com/2qdd5c6.jpg , making promises to provide the voter/taxpayers with items behind doors to the future which he cannot guarantee without a solid economic growth , something the President promised is on the right path but just needs more time and has offered hope for a Consolation Prize called Stimulus Debt these past 4 years and now has the American people Hooked on the hand out prizes instead of growing and expanding the supply-side economy to grow tax revenues ? See the problem still comes back to a fundamental of this Game Show using the same stagnate supply source while more and more people want to play the game , and this is wher…

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        The Class Warfare Pandora’s Box has been opened by Obama and there is NO Stopping it now , it will have to run its course !!! Heres a Debate I am having on another site and it shows the example of How better than 50 % of the People are thinking and this will feed on itself till free markets collapse completely !!!
        http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/11/27/5-Dont-Blame-Me-Plans-on-the-Fiscal-Cliff-Table.aspx#page1
        bob eddy wrote, in response to hungry4food:
        A “supply side” economy does not grow. That is how we got into the mess we did in 2008. Quite simply, it doesn’t matter how much cheap cr*p you flood the economy with if people do not have jobs and the means to buy it. During the Bush years people were able to buy the cheap cr*p because of an extraordinarily relaxed credit market and they were able buy in spite of declining wages and declining employment that, as we saw, was not sustainable.
        Link to comment
        hungry4food wrote:
        Question regarding the Fiscal Cliff , has President Obama become the Monte Hall in the Game Show ” Let’s Make a Fiscal Deal ” ,ht tp://oi45.tinypic.com/2qdd5c6.jpg , making promises to provide the voter/taxpayers with items behind doors to the future which he cannot guarantee without a solid economic growth , something the President promised is on the right path but just needs more time and has offered hope for a Consolation Prize called Stimulus Debt these past 4 years and now has the American people Hooked on the hand out prizes instead of growing and expanding the supply-side economy to grow tax revenues ? See the problem still comes back to a fundamental of this Game Show using the same stagnate supply source while more and more people want to play the game , and this is wher…

    • Bill

      China & Russia do not have to beat us militarily, they will easily beat us economically. They both tried communism and it did not work. Now both of them love the principles of capitalism and are promoting their business communities to the fullest. China just lowered their capital gains tax to 5% because they know it will spur investment growth and bring in more revenue in the long run.

      Russia is working to be the largest oil producer in the world and have paid their debt down to 6% of GDP

      This country is over regulating and over taxing the private sector and promoting the non producing public sector. We might have a big army but we won’t have any gas to run it

      • DaveH

        No Bill, China and Russia don’t love Capitalism. At least not the Leaders. They are simply doing what is expedient to grow their economies because they have learned what our Progressives haven’t learned — that Socialism destroys economies. But Leaders know that Capitalism (Free Markets), taken to extreme, will greatly diminish their Power. That’s the last thing they “love”.

      • Bill

        Hi Dave,
        Yes, you are right. the leaders will not give their citizens more freedoms, they just went to capitalism because it is easier to have more money than less

        Why can’t we see what works and what doesn’t

    • DaveH

      1930′s~1940′s era “laissez faire”, Paul?
      How far off could you be? Please read this book and learn the truth:
      http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Americas%20Great%20Depression.pdf

  • Lindy

    Let us not count the massive voter fraud as in Pennsylvania where in 59 counties not one vote was for Romney. A little suspicious? How about the voting machines that voted for Obama no matter what candidate you picked? How about all the illegal votes cast by non citizens and unregistered voters? Let us take everything into account and that is Romney backed off after the first debate. He refused to mention topics like Obama and Libya or Obama’s funding of the Muslim Brotherhood. Why? If Romney would have continued in his attack mode, we would have been looking at a new President in 2013.

    • Corkey

      And we would be at war with Iran if that idiot was elected too. Of course none of Romneys kids would do the fighting, just ours.

      • Kay Cleveland

        And what is wrong with war? If Iran shoots a nuclear missile to America…guess what…you won’t have to worry about war. Stupid Liberals.think you can just talk to terrorist…and evil Obama..has been arming the asses. He is diminishing our missiles, diminishing our military, diminishing their pay & benefits..and the NFL players make more money than our soldiers. It is a slap in the face..that all the soldiers who have died over the last 216 years..for the freedoms we have in this country…and the Superpower that we once was…is now being given away by stupid liberals to an evil COC who wants nothing less than to be “dictator” {like Morsi in Egypt} and take every freedom you ever had, and make us completely dependent on the Government…hence Germany 1941 {Hitler}. Thank you all the Stupid “Radical” Liberals….and your vote for the Death of America Nov. 6, 2012.

      • Walter & Renee Agard

        You’ve hit that on the spot. I wonder if it did’nt knock them out?

      • DaveH

        Kay says — “And what is wrong with war? If Iran shoots a nuclear missile to America…guess what…you won’t have to worry about war”.
        Only that almost everybody loses, it is murder on a mass scale, and most (if not all wars) are conducted to enrich Politicians (in Power and Money) and Crony Capitalists.
        I find it almost comical that people are worried about Iran launching a nuclear missile at the US.
        They would be obliterated before the missile even reached the continent. And they know it.
        You have drunk the Kool-Aid, Kay, and you have drunk a lot of it.

      • DaveH

        Read this book, Kay, and get educated before you embarrass yourself further:
        http://library.mises.org/books/John%20V%20Denson/A%20Century%20of%20War%20Lincoln,%20Wilson%20and%20Roosevelt.pdf

      • Flashy

        “I find it almost comical that people are worried about Iran launching a nuclear missile at the US.” <— DaveH

        Wow..a more complete case of utter naivete' cannot be displayed…astounding.

        DaveH…are you suggesting Iran having nukes is nothing for us to fret about?

      • Mikey

        The greater threat is to Israel. If Israel gets hit, you know they will retaliate. And if they retaliate, there will very little left of Iran. I think Iran knows this, hence no attacks as of yet.
        If an all out war starts between Israel and Iran, you can bet we’ll get our meddling military in the mix (at the cost of money and lives).

      • Michael J.

        Flashy,
        If you want something to fret about, consider this:

        Definition of a Karl Marx wet dream – A Democratic party controlled by hard core Communist presiding over naive liberal ideologues convinced they’re on the path to a perfect world.

      • DaveH

        Yes, I am, Flashman.
        Which country in the world has the second most largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world?
        Which country in the world has actually used nuclear weapons against another country? A country which was provoked into war to allow FDR an excuse to enter WWII?
        Which country has the most military bases around the world?
        Which country is most commonly involved in military conflicts around the world?
        And you think we should worry about puny Iran?
        Iran is just an excuse for Sociopaths like Flashman to build the Power of the Leaders ever greater until they can finally achieve their main goal — One World Tyranny.

      • DaveH

        Whatever they’re paying you, Flashman, it’s too much:
        http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread826545/pg1&addstar=1&on=13829871#pid13829871

      • DaveH

        Flashman says — “Wow..a more complete case of utter naivete’ cannot be displayed…astounding”.
        Do you really think your adolescent manipulative tactics work on me, Flashman?
        Meanwhile those who read the book I linked to will know just how useless you are. I must drive you and your handlers bonkers, Flashman. Short drive.

      • Flashy

        I asked DaveH if he…in utter naivete’, was suggesting a nuke armed Iran not to be a danger to the US. his partial response “Yes, I am, Flashman.”

        Hokayyyyy….so control of the oil political situation , the Straits, close to Europe etc .. not a threat to the US eh? Wow …. Such suggestion is so out of touch with any reality it’s …. astounding the men in white coats have left you free to roam the streets at will.

      • momo

        With your logic, flashman, we should be staying up nights worrying about North Korea, they already have nukes.

      • Jeff

        The concern about Iran having a nuclear weapon is not about Iran. Ahmadinejad engages in some incendiary rhetoric, but he doesn’t run the place. The Ayatollahs may be reckless but they’re not suicidal. They know if they use a nuclear weapon against Israel or any other U.S. ally, they’re finished. The problem is 2-fold. First, it would spark a nuclear arms race in the region as the Arab States would react negatively to the Persians having such weapons. Secondly, there is the fear that Hamas or Hezbollah may get there hands on such a weapon. And they may just be willing to use it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill
      • DaveH

        What do those things have to do with the nuclear threat to the US mainland, Flashman?
        Focus, Flashman. I realize that tangential arguments are your modus operandi, but they don’t cut it here.

        Alinsky strategy #2 — “go off on tangents”.

        http://personalliberty.com/2012/08/07/disinformation-how-it-works/

        Like I said, Flashman — They’re paying you too much.

      • Texas Ride

        I doubt that Iran would launch an attack on the U.S., not right now…not by themselves.
        They will launch an attack on Israel, to start the coming war! There will be a war, without doubt. That is why the foreigner is disasembling our military and weakening our defenses.

        Oh, and the children of the elitist politicians should be the FIRST to go to war! That is priority!

    • Bpante

      Not just Pennsylvaina http://youtu.be/6ItGvPwr570 The Republicans lett them do it, they deserve to loose.

    • eddie47d

      Too many lies and dozens of assumptions. The Democrats did not suppress any military votes yet we hear these same bald faced lies every election season. Ballots are sent out by the Secretary of State within each state and to all voters. There are no military ballots deliberately held out by either Democrats or Republicans so please stop this big lie. Few if any illegals vote but that sounds so cleaver to keep bringing up. Cuyahoga County Ohio was not a slam dunk for Obama and the vote was 559,180 for Obama and 91,953 for Romney. A poster stated 2 weeks ago that the county went 100% for Obama. The big lies from the right just keep piling up and obviously with little shame. Do any of you true Conservative question the comments from other “Conservatives” who do lie about all this “election fraud”. You as individuals or a group have every right to demand accountability at the voting booth before and after the elections. Yet when the election is over do any of you march to the Secretary of States office and demand proof. Apparently not since you all whine and complain and make up the same excuses every election cycle. We in Colorado did take our Secretary of State (R-Gessler) to task because he claimed there was massive voter fraud. Turns out he was full of it too. He had to back peddle real fast and he was also indicted on another matter.

      • DaveH

        Eddie says — “Too many lies and dozens of assumptions”.
        Obviously, Eddie, you are referring to your comments.
        You have no credibility on this board, Eddie.

      • Flashy

        DaveH…you have any Mises link to support your contention?

      • eddie47d

        The only one making an assumption about what I said is Dave H. who is losing credibility every time he opens his mouth. Prove me different Dave H or you are an unequivocal liar. Tell us Dave H what you know about Cuyahoga County Ohio or Scott Gessler in Colorado. I want more than a fart from you.

      • Jeff

        Dave is communing with the Ghost of Von Mises right now. Old Ludwig is telling him, “Get away from me, you shmuck. And stop speaking for me. You know nothing of my work.”

      • Mikey

        He doesn’t need them, his credibility stands without.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Eddie, Jeff, and Flash, if anything, your personal attacks serve only to strengthen DaveH’s credibility on this site. For, if he, as you say, had no credibility, why would you waste your time trying to destroy that which you claim he doesn’t posses, as if you ever could. But your attempts to do so, say more about you and your, credibility, then you may realize…not to mention that your ill-written diatribes bring into full display your medical-condition, that being, schizophrenia, and most unfortunately, your condition appears to be quite advanced; acute, in fact!

      • eddie47d

        Jay Walker: Dave H insults me everyday or didn’t you notice or don’t you care? Either let him fight his own battles or don’t be a hypocrite yourself.

      • DaveH

        Poor innocent Troll Eddie. Still smarting from the fact that I won’t bring a knife to your Liberal Progressive gun fights?

      • eddie47d

        You stroke yourself too much Dave H!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Don’t forget! In some places they magically declared the winner before the vote counting even started!

      eddie says we can demand proof from the secretaries of state. Ask Alan West how that went for him! He had a consistent lead and at the last minute they “found” some votes that swung it the other way. He asked for a recount, which was his right! They delayed until, oops, it’s too late! The fraud was apparent everywhere! And eddie, you are naive if you think that ANY of us can question or challenge the results! I guarantee you that you will not be allowed to see ANYTHING!!! Just because the LAW says that the voting must be open doesn’t mean that it is!!! The election was a FRAUD!!!

      • eddie47d

        Those were POJECTIONS Nancy and it happens during every election season.Whether winners in blue states or red states. I bet the pundits can project the winners in 2016 once the candidates are nominated or which states will go red or blue. Its not all rocket science. The word FRAUD gets bounced around like a ping pong ball every election cycle so either it is not happening or people are too lazy to investigate through the proper channels. All I hear is excuses in why its not being done.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        NO! eddie! They weren’t “POJECTIONS” (sic)! They were declaring obumass the winner BEFORE they even counted, right after the polls closed!!!

      • Kate8

        Nancy – A week before the election, I posted a link to a video of election results declaring Obama the winner on a TV news crawl at the bottom of the screen on a weekly broadcast.

        The video came out in October, but used the Nov. 6 date on the crawl.

        This is proof that it was determined in advance. The video may still be available.

        Many of the major news stories, like false flags, are scripted well in advance of the actual events. This shows that many of these events are orchestrated.

      • mark

        You’re absolutely right, Nancy. That was how Reagan was elected both times in 1980 and 1984 by massive voter fraud! All elections are rigged! Everyone knows this! This was true with George Washington, too. He was overwhelmingly elected through fraud. No one even ran against him. How crooked is that! The U.S. under Washington was a one-party state just like the Russkies and the Commies in Chinabubblelanddeville. Hoo-hoo!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Lindy you got that VERY Wrong. It was 59 “divisions” within Philadelphia that did not record a vote for Romney. NOT 59 counties in PA. VERY deceptive.
      Even Bill O’Reilly got that:
      http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-stunned-to-find-pa-districts-where-romney-got-zero-votes-megyn-kelly-weighs-in/

      • Texas Ride

        It was 59 precincts. Still the chances of that happening can be compared to being struck by lightening in the Sahara desert. People know there was massive corruption in this election! Too bad the GOP can’t find the guts to mention it!!

  • Vicki

    The GOP treatment of Dr Ron Paul spelled their doom.

    • Corkey

      Bingo Vicky. Romney got less votes in 2012 than brain dead John Mc Cain did in 2008. You could see it coming during the campaign with Newt and Santorum playing the role of blockers in the Ron Paul Prevent Defense, to help drag Mitt over the finish line. But it didn’t work. Who is the GOP gonna run in 2016? Charles Manson?
      Idiots.

      • Elton

        Manson would be better than what we have now in the White house…

      • DaveH

        Actually the GOP has been the party of Big Government since their creation in the 1850s. They’ve just been able to pull the wool over peoples’ eyes since then.
        Just as the Democrats have in posturing as the party for the Little People.
        Both Parties have been controlled by Progressives since the late 19th century.

    • Steve E

      I agree, had the Repubs treated Ron Paul with respect and embraced his ideas, Romney would have had a couple million more votes to win the election. The Repubs will still win in state and local elections with Tea Party infiltration (and it”s happening in my state), but will never rise to victory in Presidential elections. They just keep making the same mistakes over and over, and will never learn.

      • Bill

        I agree, Steve
        During the campaign, I spoke with many liberals that said they would vote for Ron Paul over Obama. Ron Paul could have united this country if it wasn’t for the old guard getting in the way

      • Cliffystones

        That’s what infuriated me most. The “he’s not electable, so forget about him” crowd in both the Republican establishment and the media. He came in second in the Iowa straw poll, and was systematically and completely ignored. His message and positions were ignored as well. Even if some politico doesn’t like him as a candidate, when he was a front-runner in the early contest he and his platform were completely ignored. The only reporter who regularly (that I saw) had him on his show was Neil Cavuto.

      • Vigilant

        I recall one debate when the hopefuls were asked to tell what they’d learned from the other candidates’ positions. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it was Perry and possibly Santorum who thanked Ron Paul for educating them on the Federal Reserve.

        Now considering how all-important the Federal Reserve’s part has been in destroying out economy (and you ain’t seen nothin’ yet), any one of those Republicans who had to be schooled on the deleterious effects of the Fed shouldn’t have been on that stage in the first place.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Vigilant: Now considering how all-important the Federal Reserve’s part has been in destroying out economy (and you ain’t seen nothin’ yet), any one of those Republicans who had to be schooled on the deleterious effects of the Fed shouldn’t have been on that stage in the first place.

        Then Paul would have been crowned King, Vigilant, as there would have been no other candidate from either party qualified to compete with him!

      • Vigilant

        Wake The Sleepers(Jay), I agree with your assessment.

    • rendarsmith

      Truer words have never been said!

    • Jonathan

      Your exactly right Vicki!!!!!!!!!

    • JJinCO

      That goes two ways. Had Ron Paul helped get Romney elected, he would have done more good for the libertarian cause and for the country. Why run for the nomination of a party you despise so much you won’t endorse its final nomination? Both Gary Johnson & Dr. Paul were better candidates than Romney who was better than Obama. Now all 3 are can sit on the sidelines … and we are one Supreme Court Justice away from loss of any Constitutional restaints to government power.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Why run for the gop?!? The answer is simple!!! Because only the democraps and the republicraps are allowed to have a voice!!! The corrupt will not allow you to hear what anyone else has to say!!! You will not be allowed to participate in debates and you will not get equal attention from the corrupt media!!! You will be invisible!!! No one will hear your message!!! And besides, the liberals have infiltrated and taken over the republicrap party. It is time to TAKE IT BACK!!!

      • Cliffystones

        Maybe Dr. Paul would have and could have. But he was pretty much shut out of the clubhouse by the Republicans. Not inviting him to speak at the convention was like a bunch of 5th grade boys saying “you’re not getting in our clubhouse!” Romney’s folks get control then proceed to blow off Paul and Palin. Who can blame them for sitting out the campaign.

        What I want to know is just where in he!! were the two past Republican Presidents all of that time? The Bushes had their day in the sun so now they both have been completely silent. After the mess he made of things, W should at least pick up a whisk broom once in a while.

      • DaveH

        JJinCO says — “Had Ron Paul helped get Romney elected, he would have done more good for the libertarian cause and for the country”.
        Then you don’t understand what a Libertarian is, JJ. We don’t sacrifice our Principles just to get elected. Real Libertarians will keep educating people in the Principles of Freedom and hope that someday the majority will catch on.
        What is a Libertarian?
        http://mises.org/daily/2616/Myth-and-Truth-About-Libertarianism

      • DaveH

        Nancy says — “It is time to TAKE IT [the GOP] BACK!!!”.
        To what, Nancy, the myth or the reality of the GOP?
        The myth is that they were the party of Small Government. The Reality is that they never really were.

      • DaveH
      • Mikey

        Once again, you are spot on, Dave. I knew Gary Johnson would not win, but I did vote for him, based solely on principal and not electability.

      • DaveH

        Thank you, Mikey. And Good Vote!

      • Lightninlee

        JJinCO I have to agree with you! If Dr. Paul had thrown his support to Romney, we might have had a different man in the WH! However, we don’t, so everybody stop analyzing what happened and go forward from here! If we can learn from this, then maybe the next time we can get the right man as our nominee.

      • DaveH

        Yep. We could have replaced Obama with ObamaLite and then scratched our heads 4 years later wondering why nothing has changed.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      The gop HAD to disparage Ron Paul!!! Ron Paul speaks the TRUTH and the truth will never be allowed!!! They could not control Ron Paul so they had to make him look bad so that the idiot masses who don’t bother to learn for themselves would go along with their agenda! Ron Paul would undo everything they’d worked so hard to do! It is their intent to destroy America and enslave her people with debt! Ron Paul would NEVER allow it!!!

      • Michael J.

        Nancy in Nebraska,
        The outcome of events that transpired on Nov.6th were predetermined months earlier in a not so secret meeting of the unseen, unelected elites in Chantilli Virginia. All the media coverage, money spent and circus atmosphere is to maintain the illusion of voters making the choice. Because the elites who produce this stage play will pay any price (in worthless paper dollars)to prevent the useless eaters from figuring out that their vote counts for nothing.

        Ron Paul was axed at the same meeting by threats to his family. John Mc Cain’s 2008 portrayal of the prize fighter taking a dive was recast and played this time by Mitt Romney. The whole charade is as phony as
        the fiat currency that financed it.

        Most telling of all is that the truth being told about our current regime comes not from our media, but Pravda.

      • Jeff

        No cell phone video of the meeting?

      • Kate8

        Michael J. – I just read where many of those voting machines have been quarantined, pending an FBI investigation.

        Good luck getting the FBI to do it, though. They’re pretty much part of the problem.

  • Harold Olsen

    Romney’s loss had nothing to do with conservatism of any kind. For one thing, Romney is a liberal, not a conservative. What it has to do with is the GOP refusing to run and support a candidate who is truly conservative. The party is now, and has been for a long time, left-leaning moderates. And now, I understand, they are talking about emulating the Democrats in order to win elections. Like the Democrats, the Republicans want to promise freebies to the leeches and parasites who are too lazy to get jobs and support themselves. If that’s what they are going to do, they may as well merge with the Democrat party. There’s very little difference in the two now as it is. Both parties can go to hell for all I care. I won’t have anything to do with either.

    • Vicki

      Anyone doubting about Romney being a liberal need only to look at RomneyCare.

      • Walter & Renee Agard

        We all should stop this bickering. We’ve already have a President,whether,you like it or not We are bickering and we are not seeing what is happening to this country .Do you know the chinese are trying to get on top if we should fail? Look around you, and if you are smart you will see what is happening.

    • eddie47d

      Few Liberals if any claim Romney as part of their team and he is nothing more than a neoConservatives. That still makes him a Conservative Republican and the Liberals warned you about him during the entire presidential race. You made your bed now sleep in it which is no different than when a Liberal chooses the wrong candidate. Look at the whopping the Democrats got by choosing McGovern or the Republicans in choosing McCain. You win some and you lose some!

      • Elton

        You sir do not know what a conservative is if you think Romney is a conservative. He is as liberal as any leftist,socialist democrat such as yourself….

      • Vigilant

        “Few Liberals if any claim Romney as part of their team and he is nothing more than a neoConservatives. That still makes him a Conservative Republican…”

        eddie, please don’t conflate Neoconservatives with Conservatives. While similar in some aspects, they are radically different in fundamental areas. Romney is far from being a Conservative.

        I highly recommend Richard Viguerie’s “Conservatives Betrayed: How George Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause.”

      • Bill

        Stuck your foot in your mouth again, Eddie?

      • DaveH

        As usual, Eddie, you don’t have a clue.

      • eddie47d

        No Bill not at all! Whether you like it or not the majority of “Conservatives” voted for Romney. That may break your heart but that is what really happened no matter what die hard Conservatives or Libertarians think.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Vigilant: I highly recommend Richard Viguerie’s “Conservatives Betrayed: How George Bush and Other Big Government Republicans Hijacked the Conservative Cause.”

        In all fairness, Vigilant, Eddie isn’t the only one that struggles with properly understanding true “Conservatism”, as he rightly pointed out, all who voted for Romney are equally confused. Naturally, i would’t limit your fine recommendation to just Eddie.

      • Vigilant

        Jay, I believe you and I are on the same page.

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        @eddie47d: Over 4 million Libertarian-Republican voters either voted for Gary Johnson, wrote-in for Ron Paul, or stayed home because they didn’t see a difference between Obama and Romney, (They called Romney “Obomney” through his whole presidential run.) Millions of Independents swung to Romney from Obama, but it was still not enough voters to make up for the disenfranchised Conservative Republican voters. It isn’t that Romney is Conservative; it is that he didn’t run on the Democrat’s ticket.

      • eddie47d

        Four million probably wouldn’t win the Governorship of most states.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I agree with you, Harold! But you must know that the two parties are a scam! They BOTH work for the same people! There are powerful people behind the scenes who pull the strings of BOTH parties! NEITHER party represents the people!!! Until we make people understand that, we are doomed to accept what “they” give us! We must abandon their two party scam and insist on being heard! We must research and place our votes with the little guys who are not backed by big money! We must not be sucked in and be convinced by name recognition! We must do the work of finding a candidate who does NOT have the backing of big money! We must KNOW that they do NOT have OUR best interests at heart!!!

      • DaveH

        It is possible that the candidate can be both Freedom Loving and backed by Big Money, Nancy.

      • randman2

        Nancy, this is the second post I have read from you. You are right on the money. There are some here in Alabama that want to form a third party. The Coservative Party. I dont think that is the way to go. We must take back the Republican Party or it will surely go under.

      • Gman

        Dear Lady: If only all of the pseudo talking heads would just hear what you just said and come to the conclusion that you have things would become a lot clearer for everyone. We’ll never see the ones who really drive this country and the world at large. What’s that meeting that all of the high rollers, international bankers and politicians and the such go to every few years and decide the fate of the world behind closed doors ? Even those folks have handlers and higher ups. Believe it.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Dave H, I disagree with you and randman2, thanks!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Gman, I think you were referring to Bilderberg.

      • Texas Ride

        Randman2, there is no such thing as the Republican party. They are just an extention of the communist party, undercover!

        Tell me what the Republicans have accomplished in the last four years. I can tell you, “nothing.” The only thing they are known for is capitulating to the communist party (formerly the democrat party.) After all the beating of chests, they do what the communists want…There is no other explanation than, the GOP is no longer. Remember, that the House passed everything that Hussein has put before them. This includes the NDAA, the stimulas, raising the debt celiing, you name it. the GOP has NOT adhered to the Constitution anymore than the communists.

      • Mikey

        Nancy, we did have such a candidate….Ron Paul. Unfortunately, the powers that be made sure to repress his message as much as possible.
        However, there is hope. I believe his son Rand shares most of his values, and may run for president. If this is the case, we as conservatives/libertarians must do all we can to support him.

      • DaveH

        Here’s just one example, Nancy:
        http://www.kochfacts.com/kf/

      • Jeff

        Maybe you should set up a website like that to fully explain yourself and display your positive press clippings. Possible titles:

        creepyfacts.com
        cbspeaks.com
        davehdoesvienna.org

      • Mikey

        Why Jeff? Even if he did, you still wouldn’t understand.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Dave H, I’ve no love for the koch brothers, nor george soros nor bill gates nor warren buffett! NO ONE gets THAT kind of money legitimately!!! THAT kind of money is gotten through cronyism, contacts and inside information! It is gotten through bullying, extortion and back room deals! As the old adage says, “it’s not what you know, but WHO you know”!!! There are wealthy people who have worked hard to be successful and then there are those who lie, cheat and steal! Destroy the competition, make unholy deals to force people to buy your product, it’s the name of the game! THAT’S not the kind of capitalism that I believe in!

      • DaveH

        Nancy,
        You’re starting to sound like Eddie, lumping everybody in the same basket.

      • DaveH

        Aren’t your buddies waiting for you at the sandbox, Jeff?

    • Bill

      Sad but true, Harold

    • DaveH

      Romney is a Progressive who straddles the fence between Liberal and NeoCon.

      • Norm

        Romney is a liar who would (and has) said many things which were contradictory. Depending on his audience, there was no telling what kind of nonsense he would spout. The Republicans lost by a large margin an election that could have easily been theirs.

      • DaveH

        That’s what Progressives do, Norm. They couldn’t get elected if they told the truth.

      • Kate8

        DaveH and Norm – That is exactly right. What is perplexing is how the democrats will hurl all they’ve got against one liar, and yet cheer and worship another who is, not only no different, but much worse!

        At least many conservatives can see what’s going on. The only explanation is that liberals are so hypnotized and deluded that they truly think their guy is good, and any other is evil.

        That is why democrats are so dangerous. They are incapable of thinking objectively.

      • Jeff

        You keep thinking that K8. Make sure you nominate the most conservative candidate you can find next time. Allen West would be good. Maybe Fatbaugh can be his press secretary.

      • Kate8

        jeff – You have just given further proof that liberals are incapable of comprehension.

      • Jeff

        I’ll admit I’m incapable of comprehending some of the paranoids on this site. You and a few others could keep a psychiatry department busy for years.

      • Norm

        kate

        1. President Barack Obama’s federal income and gift tax returns for 2011 were released by the White House on Friday along with those for Vice President Joe Biden.
        The Obamas had a reported adjusted gross income of $789,674.
        About half of the first family’s income is the President’s salary; the other half is from sales proceeds of the President’s books. The Obamas paid $162,074 in total tax.

        2. Obama didn’t keep some of his optomistic promises, but he tried. The economy was such a basket case, thanks to the clever greed driven manipulations in the housing market, that no one could have turned it around in 4 years.

      • DaveH

        Ignore Jeff, Kate8. He’s most likely got his hands in the till. How else could he be so hypocritical?

      • Kate8

        Norm – Obviously, the Obama’s didn’t report the bulk of their income.

        Remember, he just purchased a $30,000,000 estate in Hawaii. He makes his living pilfering money from the taxpayers as well as engaging in criminal enterprise. He could hardly report the millions he makes from his illegal dealings and bribery, now, could he?

        BTW, I forgot to mention human trafficking as another source of income.

        There’s no way he could have the holdings he has on the POTUS salary. They ALL have done it, and do it still. Just like Pelosi acquired over $20million in a few months of being in office. Do some research before you come off with such nonsense.

      • DaveH

        Norm says — “The economy was such a basket case, thanks to the clever greed driven manipulations in the housing market, that no one could have turned it around in 4 years”.
        No Politician could, Norm. But if Government butted out of the Marketplace, the economy would turn around within a couple of years and without stealing money from the taxpayers.
        Remember the 1920 crash? Of course you don’t, because the Government butted out and the economy recovered in a little over a year:
        http://mises.org/daily/3788

      • Karolyn

        Kate – Where did the RUMOR come from that Obama bought a $30,000,000 home in Hawaii? I cannot find any credible info on that.

      • Kate8

        Gosh, Karolyn, I just did a search on “Obamas purchase estate in Hawaii”, and a whole list of sources popped up. But, alas… I was mistaken. It was a $40MILLION estate.

        http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/51125/obama-buys-40-million-estate-in-hawaii/

        Next time, you might actually LOOK. I shouldn’t have to do your search for you.

      • Kate8

        It’s no wonder liberals are so ignorant and uninformed. It’s all too apparent that whatever news sources they rely on DON’T REPORT MUCH OF ANYTHING, except what they want them to hear.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – If that’s the kind of place you get your “news” from, it’s no wonder you come up withe such doozies. “World News?” Looks more like the “Enquirer” or “Globe” to me.

      • mark

        Hey Kate8, the other headline in this Onion-like fake paper, News of the World, that you cite is, I kid you not: “Alien Space Ships Invade Earth in 2012!” An excellent source!

      • Jeff

        The aliens came to return Romney to his home planet.

      • Kate8

        Good grief, Karolyn. That is not “where I get my news”. I did a search (because you apparently could not) and got a WHOLE LIST OF SOURCES FOR THIS REPORT. I just picked the first one on the list. I didn’t even open it up. I figured if you REALLY wanted to know, and you didn’t like this source, you’d do YOUR OWN SEARCH.

        News articles are circulated on a wide range of outlets. Just because you don’t like a site does not mean all of the articles are untrue. This article is OLD NEWS and has never been refuted.

        Obviously, you and the rest of the trolls are not at all interested in facts, but only in finding ways to ridicule those who try to post information here. Anything that disparages your team is immediately the object of your attacks, and the legitimacy of the information is unimportant to you.

        You know what…I couldn’t care less what you believe or don’t believe. Just keep thinking that Obama is the greatest thing to ever hit the planet, and that he can do no wrong. Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to seek out the truth, in spite of you guys’ continual harping.

        I’m done posting for you. Do your own work, or skip it altogether. You are really of no consequence to the opposition movement. Get out of the way or get rolled over. I promise you that I couldn’t care less.

      • Jeff

        Sorry K8, but the details of your latest paranoid fantasy hardly qualify as information unless you’re talking to your psychiatrist.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, I LOOKED AT YOUR WEB LINK. THE KENYAN’S NEW MANSION LOOKS LIKE THE Iolani Palace. [My favorite Hawaii State Capitol Building; I have a "thing" for state capitol buildings - the buildings in Pierre, Des Moines and Olympia are my favorites]. “Kate8,” MA’AM, MAYBE I MISINTERPRETED THE PHOTOGRAPH FOR THE WEB LINK’S ARTICLE.

      • Kate8

        Look, people. I don’t write the articles, I just read them. This one has been posted in numerous outlets, and so far, I haven’t seen any denial of it.

        Do your own work. Draw your own conclusions. The issue was Obama’s instant mega-weath on assuming office. It’s obvious that someone is fillng his coffers for services rendered.

        I must really be a threat for you people to continue to attack me on every issue.

      • Jeff

        No, keep writing. In fact, why not publish your entire diary? I’m making plans for a book updating Richard Hofstadter’s and the K8 chapter has some of the best stuff. I like the 300-year-old world-wide conspiracy myself. It’s the real stuff. Reminds me of the JBS when I was in high school. Like a song you remember on the radio.

      • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 notalemming

        You might want to google several groups, if you feel so confident that there is not, nor
        has ever been, a conspiracy for the destruction of America….try The Illuminati….Bilderberg Society……Skull and Bones etc. Request specifically what their goals are regarding the US and a one world society. You may find it very enlightening.

      • Jeff

        I read “None Dare Call It Conspiracy” in high school. Any new stuff? How does such a huge conspiracy last for so long? The Mafia can’t even keep something secret with only 2 or 3 guys involved. Nixon couldn’t even keep Watergate a secret long enough to serve out his 2nd term. These Bilderbergs must be super-human.

      • AWKingsley

        @Jeff: In the case of the New World Order, many of those who came in contact with information about this group thought it was too outlandish and cruel to ever come about – that no group of people would ever be that mean. As you may recall, those were the Pollyanna – “Leave It to Beaver days”. My father, an ardent reader of Spotlight newsletter in the 1960s and 70s, was one of the first and the few who really got it. To me, it seemed the New World Order was a misbegotten idea that would soon pass. I was very wrong; it didn’t.

      • Jeff

        The New World Order was a descriptive term Bush 1 used to describe the world after the fall of the USSR. Ever since, right wingers have used it as code for “The U.N. is going to come for your gun, your wife, and your lawn mower.” Sounds like old-fashioned right-wing paranoia to me. You guys have been afraid of your own shadows forever. The Illuminati? Who were they? Guys who could read and think. In a world of illiterates, people who can transmit ideas through writing may have seemed like conspirators, but come on, it’s the 21st Century, not the Middle Ages.

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        @Jeff: The first time I heard about the New World Order was in the late 1950s or early 60s from my father’s Spotlight newsletter. The New World Order that people speak of encompasses the Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relatiions, and the Trilateralist Commission. The New World Order is a term that was coined to specify particular actions and goals to bring about Globalism and a one-world ruler.

      • Jeff

        I don’t doubt what you say, but I don’t think the term was exactly mainstream in the 50s and 60s when the focus was on the Cold War. I know the Birchers have always hated the U.N. It’s always been common sense, even when many votes went against us, that talking beats fighting. While there have been lots of little wars since the U.N.’s founding, there have been no world wars, and that was the purpose of the organization, wasn’t it?

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        You are correct, the term New World Order did not go mainstream until internet bloggers got hold of it. In the late 50s – 70s there were expose’s being written about the New World Order in Spot Light newsletter, and perhaps a few other places. Alex Jones gets into covering the Bilderberg meetings, works at spying on them, which is difficult.

      • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 notalemming

        Google JFK The President Who Told the Truth and listen to his speech he made
        on this subject…and his desire to make the American people aware….before he was
        assassinated. It’s a short speech, but in it he focuses on “secret societies”. It makes
        little difference whether either you or I were Kennedy fans or not…give a listen as it is a subject that few presidents (if any) have ever spoken out about (to my limited knowledge).

      • Jeff

        I think you forgot the link.

      • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 notalemming

        Oh….I’m not very good with all the proper usage of computers..whenever I want to find
        something, I just would type in….JFK The President Who told the
        Truth video. If you can’t get it that way, I’ll google it and get a proper link. Let me
        know.

      • Jeff

        I’ll find it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 notalemming

        Here it is, Jeff. This a shortened version as some of the others are the whole speech.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX0sLFXR0Q JFK Reveals Skull and Bones Society
        Try that.

      • Kate8

        notalemming – As a young child I had repeated dreams of seeing strange craft in the air, and of watching explosions off in the distance from our front porch. These dreams have haunted me all my life. And this was before we ever had a TV.

        I, too, remember hearing about the New World Order back then. Besides JFK, Eisenhower and some congressmen were also warning of it… this was around the time of the foiled communist coup attempt of the US.

        Anyway, when I heard Bush 41 mention the New World Order, it sent chills up my spine. It seemed that no one else thought anything of it. His talk of the “thousand points of light” and so forth, and then Bush Jr. spoke of the “angel in the whirlwind”… Creepy.

        This drove me to investigate these things as a lifelong passion. I listened to Bill Cooper back before anyone dared speak of these things…

        I know what I’m talking about, even though these young liberal upstart shills like to mock and ridicule and call me crazy. Who cares. They are the ones who have been too damaged and dumbed-down to believe anything is amiss… And so they, unwittingly, no doubt, help to bring this very thing (they disbelieve in) about.

        There are those of us who just have a gut instinct about this.

        In spite of what we know is coming, I have an overall feeling that good will win out. Perhaps we will have to choose which world we wish to partake of… I don’t know. I only know that things get stranger and stranger.

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        We are soon going to have to be fighting world-wide leveled wages. That is a disaster for us, since our cost of living is so much greater than those in tropical and sub-tropical climates. There they can do with only louevers for windows and for food, can pick wild coconuts and bananas – that kind of life-style.

      • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 notalemming

        The average American (and I mean the average American family where the Father has a
        job, and most times, the Mom as well) who come home each day and just manage to
        listen to the 6:00 o’clock or 11:00 o’clock news, gets the Sunday newpaper, and reads
        the headlines….that American knows very little about what is happening in this country,
        other than what our “news” media dishes out by way of misinformation, disinformation,
        and lack of information. The average American is spoon fed what it has been “deemed”
        appropriate for us to know….brainwashed into complacency regarding those things about which we should be extremely concerned. Knowledge is power and by observing the path taken by other great nations and empires back through the years and the ages, the path America is currently on is shown to us clearly. You can almost
        follow step by step the progression of their defeat. I remember when I was a teenager that Corrie Ten Boom who wrote “the Hiding Place” about the horrors she and her sister
        endured during Hitler’s occupation of Poland came to speak at our church. She had survived, but her sister did not…she was put into the gas chambers just as the Allies were advancing and releasing prisoners. Corrie Ten Boom told us of some of her experiences and everyone in our church listened, spellbound. At the end of her talk, I remember she stepped to the edge of the platform and looked out over us with a look of infinite sadness and she said the words I’ve never forgotten…..”It can happen here, too….you know” I was just a teenager, but even then, I was struck by the terrible sadness I saw in her eyes as she looked out over our congregation. I looked around at
        the faces of the adults in the congregation, but saw no fearful reactions….just concern for the speaker and a complacency that our world would never be like hers. On the way home that night, I asked my Mother if what Corrie Ten Boom had said could possibly be true and, without a moment’s hesitation, my Mother said “Of course not, America is a Christian nation and that could never happen here”. I was raised by two God fearing
        Christian parents who loved and revered this country and believed totally in our government and our leaders for many many years before even they became doubtful as to where we were headed and what is to become of our beloved country and our Constitution which has protected its people so well for so long. As a child, when I said my prayers at night, I always thanked God that I was an American and lived in America, the home of the brave and the free. One who has felt like that all their lives does not easily give up those cherished feelings and beliefs, but one can not, must not, be too blind to see that something is happening and it is not good. As long as all seems more or less the same on the quiet street where we live, it is just so much easier to ignore the warning signs and be happy while we can. Besides, even if we do know some of what is coming at us…what can we do about it? We tried to do something with our freedom to choose the leaders we wish to lead us, but that’s certainly not working right anymore. However, if you really want to know where we are headed…read your history books about the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, and more recently, about Germany. Seek out, read, and keep an open mind to find out the truth…if you really want to know…OR…you can bluster and argue and hide your head in the sand and wait….

    • Doc Sarvis

      Conservatives knew what they were getting when they gave Romney top position in the primaries; a moderate guy with lots of money, lots of 1%er connections/appeal (=get more money) who could – and would say anything that the Right wanted him to say to get elected. The American people (largely) saw through that. Even many on this site held their nose to vote for him just to remove President Obama.

      The Rich Shapeshifter Romney reflects the current Republican Party; trying to appease the Tea Party Conservatives while convincing the rest of America they are moderate enough to get elected.
      Good luck with that

      • DaveH

        NeoConservatives backed Romney, Not Conservatives.

      • Doc Sarvis

        splitting hairs.

      • Kate8

        Doc – What about Obama, who has gone from a six-figure income to becoming a multi-billionaire in 4 short years! How does that happen?

        DIRTY DEALS, GUN RUNNING, DRUG RUNNING, INSIDER TRADING, AND PAY-OFFS, that’s how.

        And yet, you condemn someone for being rich? Where is your head?

        How can you condemn one man for questionable ethics, and yet support another with a proven lack of ethics? Your decrying of “the rich” is so absurd in the face of the fact that democrat politicians are among the wealthiest of all BY USING THE ABOVE MEANS, that it can only mean that you people are truly twisted.

      • Jeff

        You are simply too crazy to engage in conversation, but do you have ANY EVIDENCE of any of this or is it just more of the same nonsense you morons have been accusing Obama of since 2008?

      • amusedinil

        BILLIONS? Obama is worth about $11.8 MILLION. Romney: About $250 MILLION. If either of them were “multibillionaires” they’d be on the Forbes 400 list, which they’re not. Here’s a FOXNEWS.COM citing of my figures: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/16/paul-ryan-well-off-but-not-megarich-financial-forms-show . If you don’t believe Fox News, I can cite others, such as Forbes…Jun 4, 2012: http://www.forbes.com/global/2012/0604/companies-people-romney-real-estate-gop-nominee-mitt-worth_4.html (Romney’s net was $230M and Obama’s around $9M). What’s YOUR source for the multibillionaire assertion?

      • Kate8

        Oh, and might I point out that these inuendos of Romney’s misdealings cost him the conservative vote, yet democrats had NO PROBLEM VOTING FOR THE MOST SCANDALOUS president ever.

        What does that tell us?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Yet, both, Obama and Romney, offered the exact, same talking-points. In fact, the only way to discern any difference between the two was by the different labels they wore. If not for the labels, it would have been impossible to note any, difference(s) between the two. This proves that advertising really works, and the consumer is forever the simpleton; not realizing that they are purchasing the exact same product, but think one product to be different, or superior, because it sports a different label. All the while unaware that its all the same product, manufactured by the same manufacturer, that places different labels on each. This clever gimmick ensures that the manufacturer will gain a greater market for his product, and of course, greater profits!

        Politicians aren’t stupid, just evil!

      • DaveH

        Jeff says — “You are simply too crazy to engage in conversation, but do you have ANY EVIDENCE of any of this or is it just more of the same nonsense you morons have been accusing Obama of since 2008?”.
        Thank you, Jeff, for showing the Readers once again what the “compassionate” Liberal Progressives are really all about.
        These are the people who want to make your life choices, Folks.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        A real nasty bunch, DaveH. That’s for sure!

      • Kate8

        Well guys, so maybe it is multi-millions rather than billions. I kind of figured with all of the multi-million dollar vacations and treats they give themselves, it would add up to billions…
        Beyond multi-millions, who knows how high it goes with these crooks…

        Anyway, the point is that it’s impossible for a six-figure politician to accumulate that much wealth in such a short time without engaging in illegal activities. The fact is, it is KNOWN that they do, including Obama (the gun-running has already come out in mainstream news, and, of course, the insider trading). And, there is ample documentation of the other crimes, like drug-running and human trafficking, as well, but the MSM isn’t talking.

      • Bob666

        Doc,
        you are one of the few on this board who gets it-out of the bubble!

    • Isaac

      In my opinion majority of all those that call themselves Americans are all foreigners, including Obama. Their great grant parents are colonists who inhabited a continent already occupied by aborigines and took over. That taking over is still grinding on and now it is the turn of those so called lazy leeches whose grand parents toiled as slaves to build the foundation of modern America to enjoy the commonwealth their parents participated in creating. America is for the whole world including the Indians and the Arawaks and the natural course of equilibrumazation is taking place at a rate it is not easy for those who claim America is theirs can understand. But what shall be shall be.

  • John Myers

    Dear CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON,

    I did exactly that last Februaryin Personal Liberty digest when I warned of the GOP presidential nomination might go for Mr. Romney. I do not mind getting things incorrect; I do that too often. What I mind is that when I do get it right people do not remember what I wrote. Just so you have a refresher on what I said please go to that column and what I wrote regarding Mitt Romney nine months ago.

    http://personalliberty.com/2012/02/08/the-trouble-with-mitts-money/

    John Myers

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “John Myers,”

      SIR, WITH GREAT SINCERITY, I AM SORRY. I ARRIVED AT Personal Liberty ON 6 JUNE. I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT YOUR EARLIER ARTICLE.

      BUT, “Mr. Myers,” THE PUBLICATIONS OF CRITICISMS, NOW – BY ANY JOURNALIST – SEEMS TO SUPPORT THE BELIEF OF MANY THAT THE MEDIA IS “IN CAHOOTS” WITH POLITICIANS.

      ORDINARY PEOPLE, LIKE ME, NEED SOMEONE TO TELL US THE TRUE “AGENDAS” OF POLITICIANS. “Mr. Myers,” WE COUNT ON PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO PROVIDE INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER SO WE – AS THE VOTING PUBLIC – CAN “PONDER” OUR OPTIONS.

      IN ANOTHER THREAD, I JUST HEARD Benjamin Pauker “SLIP” AND SAY THE Pennsylvania Avenue Occupant WAS BORN IN KENYA. “Mr. Pauker” SHOULD HAVE “SLIPPED” IN FEBRUARY; THAT HOUSE WOULD HAVE HAD A NEW TENANT IN JANUARY.

      WITH SINCERITY,
      CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – There has been enough information about the sketchy background of the usurper in our WH since before the 2008 election, including many people “slipping” (and outright proclaiming) that he is foreign born. Or, American-born to a foreigner; OR, American-born to a communist; OR…

        You see? We have, not only the media covering for him, but also throwing out enough conflicting scenarios that people just stop listening to anyone.

        Besides, he was not legitimately elected. You know it, I know it, and everyone knows it. And no one is going to lift a finger to do anything about it, because our country is completely sold out, our Constitution desecrated, and our people as corrupted as the politicians.

        Plus, we know that Romney was no real choice. These things are worked out in backroom meetings, and then they play out as if “we” decided. It’s an illusion.

        Add to the fact that Romney was smeared from stem to stern (and who knows how much is true); and yet, Obama, who has the most scandal in his bio of ANYONE EVER, remained untouched by the media shills. Somehow, it’s okay for a democrat to be a FOREIGN OPERATIVE or a TRAITOR, but every little bit of dirt on the other side gets nationwide press and is a deal-breaker.

        This system is hopelessly corrupt, Christopher. We have no voice. Bush (who comes from a long line of NAZIs) got savaged by the Left. And now Obama, who has not only continued Bush’s bad policies, but has built upon them, is loved and cherished by the Left. So we can see what simpletons (and hypocrits) they are.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Good point, Kate8! The left critisizes everything bush did, but nothing to reverse it!!! The agenda goes forward!!!

      • eddie47d

        There were several bills that delt with that issue in correcting what Bush did. The Republicans either watered them down or failed to pass them.

      • Kate8

        Uh, eddie, would you care to present some evidence of this?

        Again, you make a statement with nothing to back it up.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, MY POINT IS, Personal Liberty HAS A VIDEO CLIP OF “Mr. Pauker” GIVING A C-SPAN INTERVIEW. HE “SLIPPED” ON TELEVISION.

        THE “Dreams From My Father-” CROWD HAS BEEN “TIGHTLY” KEPT ON CONSERVATIVE-ONLINE MEDIA AND TALK RADIO.

        IF SOMEONE LIKE, “Mr. Pauker,” HAD “SLIPPED” ON TELEVISION – FOR ALL TO SEE – BACK IN FEBRUARY, PEOPLE W-O-U-L-D HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT The Constitution NOT BEING UPHELD IN THE 2008 “INSTALLATION” OF THE “ILLEGAL.”

        IF “Mr. Pauker” HAD “SLIPPED” ON TELEVISION IN FEBRUARY, C-SPAN WOULD NOW BE CARRYING LIVE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST THE KENYAN.

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – I understood what you were saying, but what I’m saying is that there have been many slips, even by Obama (and Michelle), himself.

        It seems that when they don’t want to have to answer for something, even if it’s on record, they simply refuse to talk about it, delete those files where possible, and pretend it doesn’t exist. There seems to be no court, no legislative body, or anyone, anywhere who will respect the voice of the people or the authorities (such as Sheriff Arpaio and his team) who speak in their name.

        This is, without a doubt, a complete takeover of our government by those who consider their power absolute. They consider our Constitution null and void, because they’ve staged a brilliant coup and believe themselves to be in control, and we the people are of no consequence to them.

      • Jeff

        What did Kate8 that made her so crazy? You really need help. Your paranoia is beyond funny; it’s psychotic.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        WELL, MA’AM, YOUR COMMENTS HIGHLIGHT THE FACT CONSERVATIVES ARE BIG “scardy cats.” TRUTH IN POLITICS IS NO LONGER IMPORTANT. A FEATURE OF AMERICA’S “ROLL DOWNHILL,” IS MY BELIEF AMERICANS ARE QUESTIONING A NEED FOR A CENTRALIZED LEADER – WHAT IS A PRESIDENT BUT A PERSON WHO GIVES BORING SPEECHES ON TELEVISION. MOST PEOPLE VIEW AUTHORITY AS UNREASONABLE LOCAL-LAW ENFORCEMENT. POLICE AND JUDGES IMPACT PEOPLE’S LIVES – NOT, PRESIDENTS.

        IN REFERENCE TO NEGROES, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE KENYAN SAYS; HE HAS NEGROES F-I-R-M-L-Y IN HIS “BACK POCKET.”

      • Texas Ride

        Kate8, 9:05, you are absolutely on target! There has been a bloodless coup that has taken over the government and established their own law! In fact, 80% of the people are not even aware they no longer control their own country…

    • Mikey

      Great article, John. I only wish more had read about the “vulture capitalist” before the Republican nomination was made.

    • JimCO

      Actually John, Perry and Gingrich had re-newed that attack line a month earlier then your column … Romney then buried them with attack ads with money from his elite followers. It is these establishment republicons that made the choice to fund Romney while starving his competition.

      Rick Perry doubles down on ‘vulture capitalist’ criticism of Mitt Romney
      Posted by Felicia Sonmez at 10:29 AM ET, 01/11/2012

      When it comes to the GOP battle over Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital, it appears New Hampshire was only the beginning.

      Texas Governor Rick Perry. (REUTERS/Adam Hunger)Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) is renewing his criticism of the former Massachusetts governor as a “vulture capitalist,” arguing that Romney is trying to “paper over” the details of his tenure at the helm of Bain Capital.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        And why didn’t Romney go after Obama Like he and his PACs did on Newt , I mean he could have Made hay with this connection that makes the idea of carbon Tax a Great Hypocrisy on the part of Obama , maybe Romney was thinking about it too ??? Ties to Obama Aided in Access for Big Utility

        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/us/politics/ties-to-obama-aided-in-access-for-exelon-corporation.html?pagewanted=all

      • Texas Ride

        Tony, good question. It was obvious that Romney was muzzled after the first debate! Romney did great while Hussein was an “empty chair.”

        Romney was stopped immediately. Romney was muzzled and Hussein came out sarcastic, arrogant and obnoxious(the dems idea of being a winner!) The “fix was in” just like 2008. McCain couldn’t campaign for himself, he was too busy praising Hussein. That was such a in-your-face act of throwing an election…it was hard to watch.

        Romney was given “the talk.” How do they get away with the manipulation…that is a scary question, but it seems that all of government is under the same control

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    “John Myers,”

    SIR, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT POLITICS THAN I; BUT, IT IS SILLY TO PUBLISH THIS ARTICLE, NOW – YOU ARE TOO LATE.

    “Mr. Myers,” YOU SAY, “Perhaps Romney’s candidacy was doomed all along.” “Mr. Myers,” YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT DURING THE PRIMARIES WHEN Senator Rick Santorum STILL HAD A CHANCE.

    I REMEMBER READING ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO Personal Liberty Digest IS THE NINTH MOST POPULAR CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE IN THE NATION. THEREFORE, “Mr. Myers,” YOU COULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE BY UTILIZING THE PRESTIGE OF THIS SITE AND PUBLISHING THIS ARTICLE IN FEBRUARY.

    • Harold Olsen

      It wouldn’t have done any good. The party had made up its mind that they wanted Romney for their candidate and they did everything they could to eliminate the rest of the pack. I was saying more than a year before he got the nomination that he’d be the candidate and was called crazy. I was attacked when I said that if Romney was the candidate it would ensure Obama’s reelection. I’ve come to the conclusion that the GOP does not really want to win back the White House. The way the party’s going, if they don’t get their head our of their rectum, the Democrats can run a pet rock next time around and still beat the Republicans. They are no longer a viable political party.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Harold Olsen,”

        PEOPLE ARE SAYING 2016 WILL BE Governor Jeb Bush VERSUS Hillary Rodham Clinton. “Mr. Olsen,” YOU ALREADY KNOW DEMOCRATS – AND, SOME TREASONOUS REPUBLICANS – WILL STILL BE BLAMING Governor Bush’s BROTHER [ AND, EVEN "DADDY"] FOR THEIR TROUBLES. ALTHOUGH I VOTED FOR “H.W.” AND “W,” I WILL (AGAIN) VOTE FOR THE LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE.

      • Bpante

        Conservatives wanted Herman Cain.

      • Deerinwater

        Well? They were not Conservatives then. ~ just idiots with a vote.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I too, knew LONG before the primary that romney was going to be the “pre-selected” candidate. It was very apparent that regardless of what the people wanted, he was it! I even wrote a letter to the republican party expressing my disgust with the fact that they were already supporting him as if he were already the candidate. I told them that they were making a big mistake and that many people like myself, would NEVER support romney. But then, I believe that they KNEW that! I believe that “they” intentionally selected a candidate that the people would NOT support because obumass is the one who could carry out their agenda!!! Neither conservatives nor liberals would stand by as a republican made the changes that obumass (is and) will make! However there is no shortage of idiot liberals who will go along with ANYTHING the man(?) wants!!! And I mean ANYTHING!!! He will carry out the plan just as the nazis did and the idiots will bow down before him and call him their “lord and savior” just as jamie foxx did!!! It is coming!!! Be ready for it!!!

      • Ron Bedell

        I agree Harold. The GOP is a disaster, right now. The GOP should have won the White House if they had a well funded and constitutional candidate running such as Ron Paul. Obviously, the Rockefellers put Romney in the race to make sure Ron Paul would not win the GOP nomination or the White House. Let’s face it the GOP is DONE! I am a Ronald Reagan Republican and I did not vote for Bush Sr in 1988 or “W” in 2000 or 2004. The Republicans keep putting up big government liberals. I am heading to a third party. Lastly, how could somebody as bad as Barry/Obama win the White House again? Barry got re-elected and the Democrats won more seats in the Senate because the GOP is no different from the Democratic Party. The GOP is the party of big government and internationalism.

      • Jim Parker

        The Republican Party is in trouble because of people like you who won’t or don’t support the chosen cabdidate.but stay home and say I told you so. Republicaans could have won several additional senate seats and the presidency if the three million McCain supporters had voted. Democrats get out the vote regardless of who their candidate is…

      • Texas Ride

        I don’t care for this article because hindsite is always 20/20. I am tired of all the criticism of Romney and his campaign. If he had won we would be hearing his praises…but that wasn’t going to happen.no matter what Romney did or said. It wasn’t in the plan for this country! Many of us knew the “fix was in before the first vote was cast.”

        The people no longer pick their president, elections are a farce to keep us thinking we actually have the power to vote and that our votes matter.. Look at what has happened to our government, it no longer functions as a Republic and the Constitution has thrown in the dumpster! That didn’t just happen yesterday. Nor did it happen in November, 2008, and it sure didn’t just happen in November, 2012. The foreigner was never worried about getting re-elected. He has been and is, the prodigy of the most powerful group on the planet! And, this group will get what it wants or else! Americans haven’t come to realize that they are no longer masters of their destiny…or country..

        The conservatives were energized in November, turnout was high. But that doesn’t matter when the communists own the voting machines! How stupid are we! There hasn’t been one GOP politician that has mentioned the big “F” word…Fraud! It is like the GOP has turned a blind-eye to that possibility all together. GOP rhetoric since the election is damning to our conservative beliefs….”We need to be more inclusive and be more diverse!” In other words, the GOP thinks we should act and think more like the communist party (formerly, the democrat party.) Face it, we have been thrown under the bus and this is a one party government! They just don’t want it to be publically announced or confirmed!

        Our government openly imports and advertises for socialists, encouraging poor from every third-world-country to come support their cause and vote in our elections!Government schools indoctrinate students and churn out Marxists every year, while real Americans are busy working to pay the bills!

        What do we expect! Should we really be surprised that we are about to lose our country. .I don’t think it is reasonable to think we can keep it while allowing the enemy to take control of what Americans built for their children! We built it so that others could take it away? Read Agenda 21! It is not a conspiracy, it is real and it exists and is infiltrating our country! Our government’s response….”Be tolerant, accept diversity, multiculturalism, and political correctness. America is NOT just for Americans, it is for everyone. Everything must be fair and equal and to that end, the redistribution of wealth is necessary..not just in this country but we must redistribute our wealth around the world to the poor nations that are disavantaged (lazy and incompetent.) The agenda is about the confiscation of power, wealth, and property of all. We have much to worry about rather than how Romney ran his campaign!

      • Flashy

        “There hasn’t been one GOP politician that has mentioned the big “F” word…Fraud!” <—texas rides

        Hmmm..ya think because the majority of fraud in the election came from the GOP and extremist right? Ya think?

      • Kate8

        Nancy in Nebraska – I completely agree with you. Just like McCain (who was DEAD LAST in the primaries but, miraculously, emerged with the nomination), Romney was NOT the choice of conservatives. He was the pick of the elite controllers.

        After want the Romney camp did to Ron Paul, who carried many states but whose votes were tossed… it left a very bad feeling in the guts of many conservatives, who then just couldn’t vote for him.

        Didn’t really matter, I suppose. Obama was the designated winner, regardless of vote count. He wasn’t finished finishing America’s destruction.

        We need the elite thrown out and the vote returned to the people. Democrats will worship whoever they hold up for them, but conservatives want something other than the current corporate elite puppet.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        I want to know How Much Those idiots got paid to say the Stupid things like Legitimate rape , Man that had to b e a staged event because it happened twice and the second idiot had to of seen that reaction by the first idiot , and this really sent the Women away from the conservative vote , and no one is this stupid to make such a comment , NO Rape is legitimate for crying our loud !!!

      • Jeff

        Come on, Tony. You know the subtext of those comments. “Real rape” has to involve a scary-looking Black guy hiding behind the bushes as opposed to date rape by a clean-cut white college boy who simply didn’t pay attention when the girl said “no” or changed her mind. That’s what the legislation defining “forcible rape” that Paul Ryan supported was all about. It’s the implication that women don’t know they’ve been raped until the check bounces.

        How do you feel about consensual sex between high school kids resulting in a charge of statutory rape? Seems to me it only happens where the boy is Black and girl is white.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Jeff it seems to me to be a Matter of what is being taught as right and wrong regardless of the various ways you described . If we taught right and wrong morals in our educational system instead of always putting people on pedestals and trying to make them the Idols that we all should Pattern ourselves after we would do better

      • Rev Frank C Vozenilek Sr

        Thanks for the straight talk in this response Mr. Myers. I agree completely with your essay. Even though I voted for Romney. I was damned if I’d vote for Obes and even though I’ve affiliated with the Constitution Party, they’re not running for real. Neither are they running VIABLE CANDIDATES. THEY IN FACT AREN’T EVEN CAMPAIGNING! Save in their SMALL circle of influence.
        Sincerely,
        Rev Frank C Vozenilek Sr

      • Bud Tugly

        Tony-

        Ron Paul – yes… John Huntsman – yes… Herman Cain – you have got to be kidding. His statements and his “9 9 9″ revealed his utter inappropriateness for high office.

      • Jim C

        It was just Romney’s turn to run. Just as it was Dole’s turn and McCain’s turn. It’s all cut and dried by those who have determined that a conservative cannot win by being a conservative. The current thought is that republicans NEED to include illegals, welfare recipients and anyone else who they can possibly hang the tag “moderate” on.

      • SarahR

        Doesn’t anyone understand that there is a secret clique/society behind the political spectrum. Everyone since and including H.W. Bush is a part of it. They are all bought, groomed and paid for. I call it Bilderberg. Whether you like it or not they do exist and they have been running the global destruction since the ’50s. Look it up. Rockefeller The World Order and The High Priests of Globalization. These people running this are now in their eighties and nineties so they are in a hurry to close the deal, hence, Barack Obama because he could win the Hispanic and Black vote as well as voter fraud. They have bought and paid for the MSM and I would venture to say the Republican Party. So, conservatives need to join the libertarians and form a party. We need a leader so why not Ron Paul. Did you read his farewell speech? He truly is a good man. Does he want the job?

      • http://www.facebook.com/carlene.f.wendel Carlene Frazier Wendel

        The first thing we need to do is get rid of the Electoral College. Give the popular vote a chance to put in the one they want. Then all the corrupt voter fraud needs to be stopped. Romney may have been our president if it had been that way, or maybe someone else on the Republican party. This yrs votes were all fraudulent from the primary. Until we clean up our voting act, we will have people in there that has the most money, not votes.. I would allow each candidate a limited amount of money, and a limited amount of time to campaign, then get off it. Let the people have some time to study it out. This campaigning is over kill, and all they do is negative ads. We all would rather know what the candidate is for and would do, not what they don’t like about the opposing candidate. That stuff is mostly lies, or hear-says. We could have a wonderful country if we got rid of all this corruptness. Let the election be fair on both sides. That way the best qualified man would win.

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        Our country was set up as a Republic, not a pure Democracy. The reason it is not set up as a Democracy is because there was ample evidence that Democracies did not work. As we have traveled the route toward a Democracy, our country decayed, ethically, morally, and economically. The Electoral College is one of the aspects of a Republic that keep our country from becoming a pure Democracy.

      • Beepster

        “The party” had not made up it’s mind, the ESTABLISHMENT-socialist RHINO’s had made up THEIR minds that he would be the best to control. AND, bpante, I’m with you on Cain. He was my choice after hearing him speak. Dropped out due to threats on extended family, not the BS about adultry.

      • Jeff

        Maybe it was his impersonation of a 10-year-old when speaking about Uz-beki-beki-beki-stan or answering a question about Libya. His “women” problem notwithstanding, he had an ignoramus problem.

      • TimO

        First we need to inform the RINO’S if they want to keep their jobs they better become conservative real fast. It will not be long until the next election. Then we need to start looking for viable replacements NOW, even before they have a chance to demonstrate their resolve. If they adapt so be it if not HIT THE ROAD.

      • Jeff

        You better check with Dagney. He says there won’t be any more elections. Right wing bloggers can’t be totally wrong, can they?

    • Bill

      Hi Christopher,
      I knew the campaign was doomed, just from looking at it from a marketing standpoint. Obama beat hillary because he understood the rules of marketing in todays age of the internet, facebook and twitter. He who has the biggest list wins. When you looked at hillarys web site it was too busy with too many different options for people to do. Most the the options were asking you for money. When people are presented with too many options, they usually do nothing. Obamas site just said “Join Us” and one large email opt-in in the center. Pretty simple way to build your list. He marketed to the emails with simple non stop comments and he beat her.

      Romney did the same thing as Hilary and guess what, Obama won. You have to stay with the times. Politics is just advertising, it is very similar to selling macdonalds hamburgers.

      The way you sell conservative ideas is through smart marketing, not moralist good old boy politicians engaging their mouths before their brains in front of the liberal media.

      Obama is continueing to build his list, google his name and see what comes up. My advice to the GOP (although they will not listen to me) is hire an ad agency of 20 year old geeks.

      From the words of that famous philosopher, Bob Dylan, “The Times They Are A Changing”

      • http://jmcgraphicdesignworks.wordpress.com jcfromdc

        Obama did not “beat” Hillary, she was forced out by her own ilk. I would have voted for her OVER McCain, even tho’ I’m a self-styled conservative, as I thought she was a harder ass than either of them.

      • Mikey

        Bill, you are exactly right! Politicians must “sell” themselves to the public. If the principals the Republican candidate is selling are almost the same as those the Democrat is selling, then the voter ends up voting based upon superficial characteristics, rather than principals.

      • Rich

        Those reading this blog would do well to read this post over and over until they get it !!!

        You are on “target” and you know what that is !!!

      • Alyce Getz

        I totally disagree…I think that there was enough voter fraud in swing states that the election was stolen! They are laughing T US BECAUSE WE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO BLAME OURSELVES!!

      • Texas Ride

        Sorry Bill, but you sound like you are a twenty-year-old geek! That is not impressive! Most twenty-year-olds, don’t know how to “spit.” (Oh yeah, they can work computers and twitter.) Personally, I don’t think any twenty-year-old should vote! People shouldn’t vote until they have enough life experiences to know what is going on!

        As for changing times, change, as we found out, doesn’t automatically mean “Good change.” This country has had it very good, until Americans quit protecting their country, beliefs, and culture from invaders, communists, and other envious enemies. America was the perfect “plum to be plucked” by the world of free-loaders, dictators, and greedy powerful elites! We let down our guard! Now we stand around dumbfounded wondering what to do about it… How about just start running the government by our founding document the Constitution that protects our rights and liberties…and tells us that we should not have foreigners running the country.

      • Bill

        Texas Ride,
        I am a 64 year year old, free market libertarian that has been self employed for the last 45 years.

        Marketing is what makes the world go round. If you do not understand how marketing changes with the generation gaps, then you will be left behind. Obamas people understood smart marketing and the results are evident.

        You would be better to open your eyes and start learning something, instead of making knee jerk reactions based upon emotions.

        But maybe you are an old dog that cannot learn any new tricks

      • momo

        Bill, I think you’re on to something. The GOP needs a youth infusion, which it would have had if Ron Paul was the nominee, but I digress.

        Texas Ride, remember the Vietnam war, if they’re old enough to get shot, they’re old enough to vote!

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        You cannot just go out there and be for Free markets without a Clear direction as to what defines that view and Romney was way to vague on this with an electorate that is use to a 40 hour work week defining their way of life and so the need to be specific on what people will achieve in their day to day lives in work that will enable them to be a self providing class is what needs to be part of the Conservative Platform on the Free market Approach , and this should be able to be defined separate from the Liberal approach of Cradle to Grave Utopian promises of Entitlements that have NO Clear understanding of how these entitlements will be created and funded other than taking it from a Dark shadowy room that a bunch of rich white old guys seem to be in control of ….. and to think Obama won on this Premise >>>><<<<

      • Texas Ride

        Bill, sounds like you are the “old dog.” And, I would put up my marketing skills with you any day! This is not about geeks n’tweets! We are talking about running our country. It didn’t matter what kind of “marketing program ” Romney had, he wasn’t going to win. Until you realize that, you are just pounding dirt! To continue to thrash over Romeny and what he should have done is a waste of time and doesn’t matter.

        Go read Agenda 21, get educated. Find out who counted the votes and who owned the machines.

        Our country is under assault. Mnions are assaulting our way of life, our founders, Christianity, Christmas, our values, our culture and telling everyone that America is despicable. They say our job-creators are despicable, and the wealthy are despicable.

        What is despicable is the tyrannical foreigner that wants total control of all wealth and property…everything YOU HAVE! You don’t need that business, your house, your car because everyone else in the world doesn’t have them (whether they worked for it or not doesn’t matter.)

        YOU (meaning us all) must pay and be punished for having any success. You must pay until everyone is EQUAL! Hussein grew up with this belief and that is his agenda. He is but the tool for the taking down of this country and the confiscation of all wealth. They use him to promote his war against success, against anyone that works to achieve!
        They use him to promote class warfare, the takers against the makers.

        We should leave Romney alone, it doesn’t matter, except that he lost. What is the next step.

      • Bill

        I agree with so totally, Texas
        We are on the same side. But the younger generation voted for Obama because they are ignorant to what is going on. The only way for us to continue our free lifestyle is to educate the masses to what is going on. We have to compete on the same level as the propagadists to get our message agross that they are being used by the one world order bunch and free market capitalism creates a wonderful lifestyle

      • larry ryan

        I’m one of those who believes it is essentially over until and unless we have a (probably violent and bloody) revolution. Nary a word, except briefly from FOX about the many cities and counties in which not one single republican vote was cast. Statistically unlikely in ONE. In many? You’d have better odds of winning two lotteries, getting hit by lightning and attacked by a polar bear in the tropics all on the same day. Anyone who doesn’t see a rigged landslide third term (and fourth and fifth, etc.) for Obama isn’t paying attention. The only real question is whether he and his handlers will bother to take the time to rig a repeal of the 22nd ammendment, do away with it by “popular” demand, or simply ignore it as they do anything in the constitution they don’t like or that is in their way.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Bill,”

        I AGREE. WHETHER OR NOT U. S. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-MN) IS THE ANSWER, I DO NOT KNOW. BUT, THE LAST TIME I SAW AN IMAGE OF Governor Jeb Bush HE HAD SOME GREY HAIR; WHEN COMBINED WITH THE FACT SOME REPUBLICANS DO NOT LIKE THE Bush Family, I DO NOT THINK HE CAN WIN.

        IN THIS Facebook/Twitter Age YOU MENTIONED, Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) AND Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) NEED TO LIMIT THEIR EXPOSURE IN MEDIA. YOUNG PEOPLE WANT TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO SHARE THEIR CULTURAL IDEALS.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Texas Ride” [9:40 AM],

        I LIKE YOUR COMMENTS IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. I THINK YOU ARE “OUT-OF-TOUCH” IN REFERENCE TO YOUR COMMENTS IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.

        “Texas Ride,” I ASSUME YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE GRANDCHILDREN OVER TWENTY-FIVE; WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY WAS IT TO PASS ALONG THE VALUES YOU MENTIONED?

        THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN IT BECAME A CRIME FOR PARENTS TO SPANK THEIR CHILDREN, THEY SIMPLY “SAT BACK” AND ALLOWED THEIR CHILDREN TO BE EXPOSED TO THINGS IN SOCIETY – LIKE, COMPUTERS – BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KNOW HOW TO PRODUCE DISCIPLINE IN THEIR CHILDREN WITHOUT PHYSICAL FORCE. I AM FROM MISSISSIPPI. PARENTS USED TO GO OUTSIDE AND “PLAIT A SWITCH” TO WHIP THEIR CHILDREN; WHEN THEY MOVED TO THE CITY, THEY STARTED WHIPPING THEIR CHILDREN WITH EXTENSION CORDS. SO, “Texas Ride,” BECAUSE OLDER PEOPLE WERE WHIPPED AS CHILDREN, THEY ARE MORE SUSPICIOUS OF TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS DID NOT ALLOW THEM TO BE INFLUENCED BY EXTERNAL FORCES.

        IN OTHER WORDS, ADULT Facebook/Twitter FANS WERE NOT SPANKED, AS CHILDREN.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “momo,”

        YOU ARE “OUT-OF-TOUCH.” A SEVENTY-SEVEN-YEAR-OLD MALE [U. S. Rep. Ron Paul] CAN NOT CREATE A, “youth infusion.”

      • Texas Ride

        We can’t start depending on our young people until we purge the education system of marxists professors and radical left teachers. The young are either indoctrinated or they are illiterate. Both renders them useless to the America cause. What is the first thing that Hussein brings up when he talks about spending more money….investing in EDUCATION!

        Granted a few brought up by “American parents” deserve a place-at-the-table, but those are not a majority. Many times when I see the young interviewed, there is nothing so pitiful as they display their stupidity about the world in general, their country and politics. We have failed as parents and did not defend our children against the American-haters that educated them. We did not instill a love of country, the Constitution, or freedom! That void was filled by the radicals!….

        I am going to amend my comment on the voting rights of the twenty-year-olds. Not because they are worthy or because they act as “cannon fodder” in our foreign wars, but because it will be more inclusive of other segments of society.

        No one should have a vote that does not have a job! Every voter must have “skin-in-the-game” and help pay for the things they want!! No country can exist when half of the population can vote to give themselves increasingly more “free stuff.” No person should be allowed to vote just because they find themselves geographically located in America!

        The foreigner has basically said that there will be no borders because America is NOT just for Americans, it is for everyone! That, my friends, means that there is no sovereignty for America! We are being over-run with foreigners that give the radicals support to change our country. These foreigners are dividing up the resources and benefits amongst themselves, instead of those resources and benefits going to Americans. Say what you will but that is the goal of the marxists…”no sovereign countries must exist.” It is secular chaos for all, nothing belongs to any one group and there will no longer be any existing nations. There will only be One World Order, beginning with the establishment of the North American Union.. This NAU will inculde the region formerly known as the United States….a despicable country that was greedy and mean..

        Get your bag of popcorn, and your coke, put your feet up, get comfy, and watch. That is all Americans have done so far…..

    • Walter & Renee Agard

      Well, Well, Well, Did you know they had classed President Bush, the worst president in history? How can they turn that statement towards President Obama now. Obama is trying to fix this badly damaged economy that Bush caused to happen. Why wer’nt you speaking to Bush when he was doing that .We should forget what happen- because it happened already- ,and start helping with this economy .Do you want to send your money outside to build other countrys economy or your own?

      • rabidconservative

        Enough of the lies. The community reinvestment act forced banks to lend 100′s of BILLIONS to bad credit democrats and surprise, surprise, they defaulted. The money’s gone. No economy can withstand such huge losses. Those toxic assets were bundled with others and sold hoping the financial geniuses could at least break even but there were just too many. Frank and Dodd orchestrated this disaster as history will show. Now Obama is doing a very good impression of a foreign agent whose mission is to destroy the American economy. Not to worry, despite every decision he has made to hobble the free market, he still has you to keep blaming Bush. I only hope you will suffer with the rest of us when he finally crashes the dollar.

      • Mikey

        Most of us want to rebuild OUR economy (I’m sure there are a few who don’t). However, increasing the debt, printing more fiat currency, increasing taxes, increasing government control, and continuing wars we have no business being in, is not the way to do it. Yep, Bush is to blame for some of the problems. But Obama made them FAR worse during the last 4 years, not better, and is continuing to do so.

      • Bill

        RabidConsevative,
        Your comments are right on the money. We both know that is what happened but what amazes me is all of the ignorant remarks that state otherwise.
        Duh, it was all Bush’s fault.

        Just for fun, we should all start making a list of the ignorant excuses the liberals try to sell us on the market collapse.

      • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

        Walt ….. Are your checks on time I hope,enjoy this short lived euphoria and BTW it has been 4 years since Bush was in the white house and since then the Democrats had control of the house and the senate for 2 years and they gave us Obama Care,9+ percent unemployment and 16 Trillion in debt…just to name a few quick fixes and rest assured there are more on the way…. Hang in there Wally things are going to get a whole lot better when he finishes fixing things…

      • Texas Ride

        Why make yourself sound like a moron…

        Bush has not been president since 2008. Try to keep up and focus on what the foreigner is doing..

      • Jeff

        I hear Bush was recently named Official State Idiot (He’s bigger than a village, after all). Is that true or did Fox mess up that report too?

      • nickkin

        So am I to believe that you were in the red all the time during the Bush era….let us know when you make your millions of $$ after the first four and then the next four…..don’t forget…redistribute, redistribute and redistribute….what occupy wall-streeters you will become…

    • Norm

      Romney lost because he is a rich elitist who paid income taxes at a 14% rate (and wanted to lower even that), he wanted to destroy all the social programs of the last 100 years, and wanted to increase the military budget dramatically. He wanted to destroy Obamacare, even though he invented it.
      Most of all he was going to balance the federal budget by some magical scheme which he never could quite explain, and which his VP said was too “technical” for anyone to bother thinking about.
      The election should have been an easy win for the Reps., but the extremist views and failed ideas of the past were just to much for the average American to swallow.
      Obama won re-election with 332 electoral votes to Romney’s 206. That’s a thrashing.
      Oddly he was by far the best candidate the Republicans could muster.

      • http://Liberty Tony

        To Norm: You’re analysis is right on. Only part where you were off is on that Romney was the best candidate the GOP could muster for it wasn’t true. Herman Cain, Ron Paul, and John Huntsman by far were superior candidates. The problem was the establishment that decided to go with the ” in” pick. The future of the GOP with Conservatives are very bleak unless they start reaching out to all and not with a half-hearted attempt but with a full concerted effort. If not then they’re doomed for sure. Thanks!!

      • James

        Norm-Really? My poor uninformed regurgitator, how you have fallen for the whore media’s rhetoric. Do yourself a favor and find some REAL sources for news. It’s the uninformed dupes in this country, who have no idea as to what the reality is, that allows these turds to operate with impunity! Rather than simply spew out what you heard or saw somewhere, how about you actually take the time to learn the truth?! Then you will see how badly you are mis-informed. Romney was the best repubic choice? Wrong! Ron Paul would have been the best choice! That statement alone shows how uninformed you are. Sad. Get this straight; both parties work for the same masters!!! That is why they forced Ron Paul out and why Romney is not putting up a fight on the massive voter fraud! Puppets, that’s all they are. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!

      • Bill

        Show us more of your intelligence, Norm
        It is very entertaining

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Excellent statement, James!

      • Norm

        james
        And where is it that you get your “truths”? You sound a lot like the mental defectives: Rush, Glenn, Sean, etc. Surely you understand that fux news is a right wing propaganda mill.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        The same question could be asked of you, Norm.

      • Texas Ride

        Norm, that 14% is the same rate those greedy, selfish, elite democrats pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        That is not just a Romney Rate he made up for himself, it is the law!!

        The elites in government got together to pass a tax law that benefited them and protected their wealth! They explain it by saying that “they took the risk of investment, so they should get the tax benefit.” This applies to ALL people with money to invest!

        Why do you people insist that it is something that just Romney does. Everyone that makes money off of investments enjoy this benefit!

        If you don’t like the law tell your radical friends to get it changed so everyone pays the same rate! I fully support a 10% flat tax for everyone, NO exemptions. That way companies like GE, the great friend of Hussein, would have to start paying taxes again!
        Maybe even Geitner-the-tax-cheat could figure out what 10% of his income would be!!!

    • ron . r

      Sorry John, but Bush 2 had to be the worst president ever. Followed closely by Reagan.

      • nickkin

        Hey ron…got any ratings for the muzzie-oozie brotherhood…give us the rating for the Good, Bad and Ugly…..you seem to have the talent of recognizing bad guys in the USA..how about the mid East ?

      • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 notalemming

        Wow! nickkin, you are one tough cookie. When Reagan became president, he had the
        distinction of being the Governor who put bankrupt California back in the black once again. Had he had a Congress to fully back him (you may have forgotten this little detail that he had a Democrat congress who opposed him on all fronts whenever they felt they could get away with it) he would have done the same for our country. I remember many times, as he signed some bill with which he did not agree, he would do
        so on television and he would look out at America and he would say that he was letting
        us know that he was signing under duress because there had been things inserted into the budget with which he did not agree. He gave us back our respect as the leader of the free world…..no one laughed “behind our backs” when Reagan was president….we
        were respected and feared because he would not allow America or Americans to be
        abused in other parts of the world. He made us militarily strong…..He was the Best of the Best and if you cannot see that, then I have serious doubts as to your loyalties to our nation. As to President Bush, never has an American president had to deal with the
        terrible events on American soil as 9/11 was. It was a time of many “firsts” that Bush
        had to deal with…also with a Democrat majority in congress. While I do not agree with
        all he did (the pressure applied to Israel regarding Gaza etc), I do believe he did his
        best under extreme circumstances….you may have noticed that under his leadership, we had no more attacks on American soil and until he began to back down under pressure from the UN coalition (made up of countries who are not our friends), we were feared, if not respected, for with these nations, fear and respect are the same
        thing. Could you have done any better? I just love it when the “armchair” brigade has
        all the answers….based on nothing tangible!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Notalemming says about Reagan:

        “….no one laughed “behind our backs” when Reagan was president….we
        were respected and feared because he would not allow America or Americans to be
        abused in other parts of the world.”

        Perhaps Notalemming is not old enough to recall Reagan’s shameful behavior in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983? Our embassy bombed with ~80 dead and 241 Marines killed in the barracks bombing. After dropping a few bombs and sending a few 16 inch shells into the mountains, Reagan pulled us out of Lebanon.

        Osama bin Laden himself remarked that Reagan’s FAILURE to retaliate for this terrorist “abuse” caused the terrorists to lose all “respect and fear” for the PAPER TIGER that the US had shown itself to be, and that the terrorists would now step up their activities against the US. One can make a good case that Saint Ronald made the first big mistake (a very big one) on the road that led to 9/11 and other terrorist attacks against the US.

        I lost fellow Marines in Beirut in 1983 and a friend on 9/11/01. I have forgotten none of them. You need to learn some real history rather than parrot to us the contents of the “Book of Saint Ronald”

      • Jeff

        And don’t forget how the Reagan Presidency even happened. Through a secret, illegal deal with the Iranians not to release the hostages while Carter was president in exchange for a promise of arms down the road (Iran-Contra). Does anyone think it was by accident the hostages were released the very minute Reagan was sworn in? What would have been the attitude of the Reagan Administration toward anyone conducting private foreign policy?

    • Bud Tugly

      Santorum never had a chance with the general electorate. He was too irrationally inflexible on certain issues and came across as a Christian equivalent of a Taliban member. He would have been swept away by a landslide.

      Conservatives need an inspiring, PRAGMATIC voice, that is not a slave to Grover Norquist (elected by no one ever for anything), Fox News, and fundamentalist dogma. Someone who the public on both sides will perceive as real and capable of putting country over politics… someone who understands and supports science… someone who recognizes that the earth is not 6,000 years old and is spherical… who does not believe that Adam and Eve rode to church on dinosaurs… someone who has real ideas to improve education in our country. That voice is desperately needed and I hope will rise above the ranting chaff.

      • Isaac

        Very good insight, I hope it is not too late for you to try it?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Very good Bud,

        Can I be your VP?
        Or your campaign manager?
        Or at least send you money?

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      It’s late but, God wanted obozo as president, he is as evil as satan himself and God is going to judge this nation and soon. Everything God says He will judge a nation for, obozo is all for it and more. The elections were fixed from the beginning. The only states that went for Romney were where you have to show a ID and that says it all. The Demo-rats voted the dead, illegals and both more then once. Obozo is a dictator-in-chief and will destroy this nation with his pen. He is a little god man who worships allah the little god called satan, get use to it, more left wing marxist idiots out there then those who worship and love God.

      • Sindee Gill

        I fully agree with you, it’s been a long time coming and all the what if’s are just futile conjecture that keeps everyone going round and round chasing our own tails. Obama will use Romney and whoever to accomplish Agenda 21 than the rest will be history. I love this country but this is not my permanent home, Thank God!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001640884810 Lance Brofman

      Ask Senators Murdock and Aiken how well social conservatives would have done in this election. They were trounced in states that Romney carried. Santorum woulkd have goten less that 100 electoral votes.

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