You mean the few fat cats had a disagreement,?? costing nearly 700,000 lives plus the damage,???… maybe we should do like wrestling,.. put the fat cats in a cage and let them duke it out? Let them take the bumps, instead of our sons and daughters

They tried that at Waco,,,Dave and his church were burned to the ground ,,,the state god provided the death and cremation all in one spot……………..

You forget the military’s vote did not count, due to a plane crash that destroyed their ballots

It is possible. It would depend on weither the US military stood with the people or with the socialist government. Civil wars happen all the time, even with modern military’s
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You wouldn’t even have to fight. Just shutdown the country. Mass civil disabedience would bring the government to its knees quickly. However, it will also make the government declare marshal law. Once this happens, the leaders we have in office would not give up their position of power.

Expect to see marshal law happen. Expect to see UN troops enforcing the corrupt government agenda. Expect to see some Americans side with them…maybe even some of your loved ones. I dont know if the American people have the courage to stand up for what is right anymore.

The government is counting on the American public to be more interested in who wins American Idol than standing up for their freedoms. It is time to man-up or shut up. Are you a lemming, sunshine patiot or a freedom fighter? If you are the latter then start organizing. Talk to your loved ones about it..talk to your friends and likeminded neighbors. There is strength in numbers.

. Don’t give up your guns and 2nd Amendment rights. Guns and guts are the only thing standing between you and slavery. Let the politicians know that you will not give up the tools of freedom, i.e. your weapons. Train on how to use them so you can be able to protect your loved ones and community. If you are a godly person, renew your commitment to God. Ask for his help, strength, and wisdom in this coming crisis. Pray for revival in this country and revival in your own walk. I don’t know all the answers but i know doing these things can only help.

I hope that Americans have the courage to fight and not silently walk to the gas chambers.

Wow, a hitler reference, how original. You are right, I see him rounding up all the jewish people, the blacks and the homosexuals. the streets are washed in blood. What can we ever do to stop this??? What, that isn’t happening? We can just vote for someone else in 4 years? what a load off my mind. Take care of yourself Bob. I bet you spell that backwards don’t you? And Kyle, please get back on you medication. It will help.

I’ll take a shot here…The people and the Constitutional Republic formerly known as the USA.

From the words of a great president “Either you will control your government, or government WILL control you” Ronald Reagan

I agree your comment; the best for you is to be separate; we say in french “sécession”.
I don’t agree with Marque when he says “the patriots 1861 were rebels; I think they were right because they didn’t want a federal governement.
More than one hundred years, you can see the results…..Elections dominated by minorities…..Even I’m not an american citizen, I’ve been desappointed….Jst a few words before closing my comment: ARE YOU SURE THAT THE ” president” is an american citizen??

If Obama succeeds in his agenda, there will be many better places to live. I hope Texas does secede from the union, I’ll move there.

“Our party? if you refer to the GOP, you are mistaken. The GOP is on the other side of the same coin the Democrats. Otherwise “Boner” would had started impeachment proceedings in January 2011. Instead his spineless actions tells me he is a RINO, and not a true conservative, but a liberal like Romney.
Ron Paul was the candidate that should have made the run. But the press, the establishment, and their minions did everything possible to make sure that didn’t happen.
They knew Ron Pauls constitutional message would destroy Obama’s communist agenda. So they used the most liberal candidate they had,

Have you always been this blind and stupid or is this a recent affliction?

oh please dont think God has abanoned us He is with us always we just need to take the time to call upon Him an listen to what we need to do we need to quit fighting among ourselves an pull together an let our goverment know they work for us an we want our constitution back we want our rights under it back
if enough people stand together an fight for what is ours an the vote to renounce obama as president if thats whats best than stand together an do so
but fighting between ourselves isnt getting any thing done
get petitions get them signed turn in to senators goveners congress house of rep. push these issues with all your might make appt an take as many as you can an show up at the offices of your state rep.an demand to be heard an for them to carry your demands to a higher court BE HEARD!! WE WANT AMERICA BACK WE WANT TO STAND PROUD AGAIN!! Dont let those brave men an women who died an those living in all the wars become a waste they gave their all for us to be free now we must do our part an be heard
God bless America long may She stand tall free an proud
God bless all the people of the greaest nation ever the good ole USA
stand an fight for Her for She becomes what we stand by an let Her become!
Blessing to all who do are dont agree i pray our nation becomes great once again!

Mikey i agreed with you and hope that we still have a country to vote in by 2016. If Rand runs i will vote for him.

Mikey, I agree. Rand Paul is anything but a Bilderberg. I tried hard to understand why Rand Paul endorsed Romney and I have enough trust in him to believe his explanation given to Hannity.

As far as “endorsing” Romney, Paul explained it this way.
“Governor Romney and I actually have quite a few similarities.”
I met with him recently. I had about a 30 minute meeting with him…and we talked about a lot of issues.
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We talked issues, frankly, that are very important to me, that are important to my dad, and to many of his followers. And many of these Gov. Romney has already taken a position on. One of the big issues for our supporters, for myself, and my dad is auditing the Fed. We think there needs to be more transparency to the Fed and more oversight by Congress. This is something Gov. Romney was supportive of throughout his campaign and also was supportive of in private to me.”

Unborn people are still people and therefore should have the right to not be murdered.

i totally agree.

Alan,

The answer to your question about abortion rights is pretty simple to me. If you accept that unborn children are actually people, and we don’t allow one person to kill another person, then abortion is just another form of killing which we shouldn’t allow. I’m personally OK with this interpretation especially when the child is at least 20 weeks from conception because many premature babies survive on their own after that time. Prior to that time, I accept that it is debatable, but I still would rather it was not allowed except under certain extreme situations.

A wise man may be a fool if he does not realize he may need the advice.

A third party candidate doesn’t have a chance because of all the MORONS that think that you have to vote for a demacrook or republiar… such as yourself.

In a nutshell, the corporate owned media will obey their owners and demonize any third party offering and your attitudes reflect this. It is not your fault that you do not think a third party will win or not, it is the favorable exposure that they are denied and you can’t compete with that.

I wonder if Upstate New York feels the same way about NYC?

The problem with your thinking Harold is that Conservatives think they are the only ones with Family Values. Which is not true! Generally they are more disciplined yet they can also be tyrannical in telling others in how to live their lives. That is something that Conservatives like to accuse Liberals of doing when it is quite often the opposite.You are a case in point where you want to live your life by placing yourself on a pedestal. Then anyone who doesn’t abide by your puritanical standards is of a lesser God.

What makes you think “marriage” (same-sex or otherwise) is within the province of “government” to start with? As I read my State and the federal constitution, I see no authority ANYWHERE granted to government at any level, to decide who may marry who or what other kind of living arrangements two people or a group of people may decide on. Unless “The People” have granted such authority to government, it has been retained by those same people, so any “law” to the contrary is an illegal (unconstitutional) law, and that’s the problem with America today. Our elected officials have decided (for themselves) that they can make any and every kind of “law” that comes to mind, and when they can’t get a bunch of politicians to do what they want, they simply find some “JUDGE” who agrees with them, then call that court decision a “law!” Sorry, but my copy of the constitution says “Only Congress” can make a law, so what some “JUDGE” says is of no importance to me, unless I happen to be a party to the specific case he’s ruling on.

The sort of thinking you follow is the CAUSE of today’s problems, and can never produce a solution to them. We need to take control of the Republican party (the democrats are a lost cause) and put all the “Progressives” in both parties out to pasture. Only then can we start to move our country back toward reason and prosperity. Individual Liberty is the touchstone we have to return to, or conditions will simply keep in getting worse. We need to REPEAL laws, not write more, in order to overcome the “top-down” control our government is now exerting by force and coercion. Once the “Welfare State” (including SS, Medicare and Medicaid) is eliminated we can start to move back toward prosperity, and not before…

If you believe in our fundamental right to pursue happiness through liberty, then walk the talk and allow same gender unions, As long as they are not harming anyone else. Who appointed you as God? It is a very dangerous thing to split hairs when one thing is not allowed, but other things are, One example is in Northern Ireland where you see 2 “Christian” religions killing each other because of church doctrines. This land was intended for religious freedom, and the liberty to practice it, let God sort them out.
And please walk the talk.

You have obviously missed that article on the dangers of wasted and sick brain, because the garbage of your post is an indication you are suffering from that illness.

You must go to a very unusual church, at least, unusual for most of the country. I don’t think I know one, single female who wears a “hat” to church, anymore.

What you’ve apparently missed in your (probably short) lifespan is that the current reaction of conservatives in America is to a boat-load of liberal legislation AGAINST religious organizations, and that’s exactly what it is. REACTION! It’s been a long time coming, but now it has arrived so the LEFT (like so much of their dishonest, misdirected rhetoric) are acting all stunned and hurt because the people they’ve tried to run over for 60 years are now standing up and fighting back! It took a lot, but we’ve had enough, and that’s precisely where all the talk of secession and nullification is coming from.

People under forty? Are you talking about CHILDREN who haven’t lived long enough or had to face life in the raw, so they really don’t know what they’re talking about? There really aren’t any atheists in a foxhole, you know, and I’ve been there so I know what I’m talking about. There’s nothing like a few ricochets past your ears and the guy beside you suddenly having his head explode in a pink cloud to make people get right with GOD!

Think about what your saying. Do you REALLY think the young and inexperienced CHILDREN in America can do a better job of running our country? That mindset is what got us in the mess we’re in right now. Our younger generation demanding instant gratification, demanding million-dollar homes and a new sports car every year, with foolish politicians making LAWS to grant them their desires, in return for their vote!

It appears to me that approach hasn’t worked very well, so far, so I suggest you rethink your position and start using the brain God gave you, for something more than a counter-balance to your shuffling feet…

You are speaking for yourself. I know a lot of people under 40 that love God and realize that he is the only reason this country was so blessed all these years. And by the way, half of the Americans that voted did not vote for obama. It is because we love this country that we greve for obama being elected again. Because we understand that he is destoying this country and you will to when you have to wait 6 months to see a doctor and when you do some politician will decide what treatment you can have. And as far as this being the best place in the world to live….what is the difference between this country and other socialist countries? It seems you liberals wanted to be just like the rest of the world and know you are going to get your wish. Look at Greese…it is your future. It is too bad you are too ignorant or blind to see the truth.

There may be some viable third parties in 2016 but I doubt that the switches will be caused in a major way by religious convictions or lack thereof. Freedom to practice your religion in your own way is part of the Constitution as is the tenth amendment…

Its pretty evident you haven’t been in church in awhile, you know so little about Christians and to say Pat Robertsons obinion represents us is way beyond beleive. Come to FT Lauderdale and see the males attending services Sun. and Wed you will surely change your mind. Even you will be welcome and loved..God Bless. Grandma 82 yrs .

We do need a strong third party. But I don’t believe that will happen in my life time. The problem in this country is, people vote for a party not the values of a person.

@CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON
I don’t know what your rant is about churches. Most churches are made up of people who have a common goal: to worship God. If the church ministry diverts from that goal its the congregants duty to exercise church discipline according to Matt 18 or the church becomes nothing more than a tyrannical institution.

Similarly, the founding of this country was based on the Judeo-Christian principles (not the religion, which requires its followers to believe IN the doctrine) but all people can derive benefit from the virtues of the Judeo-Christian principles.

The U.S. is in trouble because most of the people are expecting to receive gifts from the government, which it has to confiscate from others. The last election has put that mentality on the law-books, which is a horrifying thought for people who refuse to receive something for nothing and rather work for what they desire in life.,

I am first and foremost for repairing the Union but if that fails, secession is far more appealing than civil war because the right minded people in this country are still by far the majority and they will not let those liberties slide away through ignorance. I often wonder how much blood and misery it will cost to repair the existing government’s policies.

So, CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON, if your church is bent out of shape as you describe, it’s your fault, too, for not fixing it, which is your and your fellow worshippers’ duty. You reflect exactly the apathy and “blame the authority” for the direction the country is going in. It is our duty to fix this, not the government, nor congress. It’s your duty to fix your church, not the pastor(s), elders, priests, et al.

We have American History classes and one can still find, although rare, that tells the facts of our past. But one thing is fact, a third party candidate may be the best at times, but few vote for them. The reason? The Unions; the AARP; the corporation leaders; and Liberal radical groups will not vote for them. We live in a radical society, and believe it or not, many churches, even overseas, are bowing to radical Socialism and to supporting things the Word of God tells us is abomination.

The United States once had the best of the best in our black community in supporting honor and the Word. If we do not see how that has changed by some radical racists black preachers, then blindness has set in. Some of our best Bishops and Preachers are still black, but when they speak the Word, adult kids do not want to hear it! I am 67 and I remember a lesson given to all kids. The lesson of, “Mr. Nobody!” It reminded all that what we do, we did, and we are the one responsible for it. This is not being taught because it is suggested this is religion? Of course not, it is simple fact.

This country is heading for a civil war. It is about the only option we have left to protect our rights. The next step the demon-crates and el-presidentia are going to do is try to outlaw any class of guns that we could possible use to keep what little freedom we have left. I myself would rather be dead than live like a slave under an evil government. The states that are wanting to secceed from the union will need to stand together. This is the only way we would have any chance to break away from the obama-nation.

As both Ron and Rand Paul has espoused the absolute end result has to be less government as it was in the days of our Founders. If secession has to come to accomplish LESS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT the WE MUST GO to do that venue. Too many of the federal laws and programs should be THE STATES, including BORDER SECURITY.

Do you think we could get ALL 50 states(or is it 57?) This was a very strong indication of our SO-CALLED Presidents knowledge of our country; to secede from the union and leave Washington to it’s corrupt self. We can start another country of the 50 states with the same Constitution. Washington doesn’t use it anyway.Yet far too many people still voted for him indicating how little the voters knew about him. Now you’ve seen the Detroit woman(council person) say we want the bacon now that we’ve voted for you. Isn’t that what Romney was trying to tell all you people that thought he was wrong for saying it… the 47%. NO WONDER YOU WERE STUPID ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR OBAMA. yOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED.