Tony:

First, you REALLY need to take a better look at the illegal immigrants coming in. They are not the backbone of the economy as you said. In fact, they take more out than they put in. That has been documented by everyone who isn’t liberal.

Second, name one new invention by an illegal immigrant in the last 25 years that means anything. I certainly can’t! Such things came from well-educated LEGAL immigrants – and the feds haven’t been allowing very many of them into the US for nearly a century now.

Quit getting your data from KOS or Huffington and actualy do a little study.

Alright 45Caliber:
What about the Doctors from India that are finding better treatments along with cures for Cancer and HIV? What about the Chinese engineers that are creating better rockets and other type of innovations for our transportation industry with outer space? I tell you what, your views will keep this nation back and allow nations in Asia with Africa, that’s right Africa to advance. You now need to reflect. Don’t believe the crud you see on Fax and Fiends/Fox and Friends or the garbage you read on Amren with Stormfront for it isn’t true. Farewell for now!!

They are worthless as doctors, they were worthless in their home countries and they are even more worthless here. How low do you want the standards lowered so anyone can be accommodated?

Tony:

I said, “an invention by an ILLEGAL immigrant.” You are speaking about legal ones yet your comments were to lead us to think of illegal ones. As I said, the LEGAL ones who have good educations do a lot of good but few are allowed in. In fact, the last I heard there was about 100,000 legal educated ones allowed in each year vs. millions of non-educated ones who take us to the cleaners. You’ll have to do much better before you can convince me or anyone else who reads these comments.

DaveH —

I think you are right on this matter.

Compromise

DaveH,

I’d rather give that 5% to Tea Party candidates and really get something done for the country. They’ve proved their ability to influence Congress. Can Gary Johnson say as much?

Oh?
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/02/286068/tea-party-bluffers-tea-party-caucus-votes-to-raise-the-debt-ceiling-despite-not-receiving-demands/?mobile=nc

Whereas Gary Johnson did actually veto more than 750 spending bills out of the New Mexico Legislature:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/about

Don’t misunderstand. I think Gary Johnson is a very good man. I’d certainly vote for him if he was the Republican candidate for President. However, he’s not, and therefore has no chance of being elected. Therefore, he can’t impact Congress with your vote.

Sherylynne — Yup!

Tony Newbill – I wish you could hear yourself when you talk about Romney! I agree with you about Obama, no doubt. But, you make Romney sound like the ‘messiah’ just like the other side did Obama. You sound like a brainwashed communist extolling the virtues of Uncle Joe Stalin! Are you that dumbed down man? I’m shocked almost speechless!

Steve Common give a little thought to Romney having worked with a 87 % democratic Legislature when he was Governor and got the job done making state budgets balance and they want Obama care to be a state by state ran program that together with the right to cross state lines to seek the best priced Insurance will empower the Free market to self correct its manipulated and Subsidized position thats the farthest thing from FREE markets we have ever seen . But we been in this state of complacency for a very long time and the Manipulation of the MEDIA is why we are at this Point …. Have you ever heard of ” Operation Mockingbird ” ???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

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go put that flag pin back on your lapel or take off the uniform !!!

Wow. You describe Bill O’Reiley perfectly.

To KG: Sorry, I turned OFF FoxNews and all the others about 4 years ago. Wouldn’t waste my time listening to any of them (save for maybe Judge Napolitano). I disconnected cable and don’t have satellite. if I watch TV, it is because I’ve playing a DVD movie or documentary or watching YOUTUBE by streaming. http://WWW.INFOWARS.COM for me! That is where you get the real truth – like it or not.

It appears that the Dems/Progs/Leftists spend more time watching and listening to Fox channel, to Glen Beck, to Rush, the Drudge, the Breitbart and all the Conservative talk shows like Savage and Prager and Medved and Shnitt and Boortz, etc., and sites like this just to hear and counter what is said. Desperation is making Dems/Progs/Leftists really worried.

We Know Obama is a Head strong Ideologue and Romney is Not a head Strong ideologue but one that will Listen to the Peoples Voice . Obama has Not lead with the voice of the majority AT ALL and thats a FACT !!!!

You’re dreaming. Romney will listen to your voice if you can write a big enough check. The man is a human calculator. He’ll close an entire city, ship the jobs to China, then tell us how it all pencils out in the long run. Well, people live in the short run.

Jeff the Jobs here in the states will be the advancement of food production through alternative means and you will not get that from obama and his minions they don’t want food abundance they want Uncontrollable Food and energy inflation to drop us all right into their control when they crash for the final time the free markets that give us are freedom from the oppressive Government that ideologues like Obama and his minions want to Harness as the tool to ZERO growth in resource usage and population growth common JEFF they say this out of their own Mouths !!!!

Just keep believing that nonsense. Remember, Glenn and Rush will always tell you the truth. Stay stupid all your life.

Tony, about Romney being the type who will ‘listen to the people’…. I hope for your sake you aren’t holding your breath on this one! You sound like a nice, idealistic, young, and NAIVE person!

Steve are you telling me to vote for obama or not vote at all , whats the logic here Sir ??

Tony, I’m telling you that there is ‘doodley squat’ difference between Romney and Obama. My wife voted for Romney while I voted for Gary Johnson (absentee). I told her she’d have to make her own mind up, and even though very difficult, she voted for Romney because being from communist country (former USSR) she sees Obama for what he really is. But, she realizes that Romney is also poison, just his poison isn’t quite as strong. I’m telling you that as long as people in this country continue to accept the corrupt 2 party system and where they are only given 2 choices, and where the ‘masses’ are strongly guided in those choices by the mainstream corporate controlled media, NOTHING is going to change much – maybe just slow down a hair. I can understand average people who don’t read and understand all the underlying workings of the New World Order feeling like they need to vote for Romney. Just don’t tell me how wonderful he is! That is like saying arsenic is good for me, but cyanide (Obama) will kill me. Arsenic will kill me too, just a little slower! I want to vote for something/someone who IS NOT poison at all, even if they can’t win THIS TIME!

Steve its funny Anderson Cooper is not at CNN and he can’t keep a job on his own ratings , I can’t get this to post so Google this phrase and it will come up with the Link, CNN’s Anderson Cooper activates ‘Operation Mockingbird’

Steve why I am pushing Romney is because we need to buy time and we won’t get to buy any time with Obama back in , his taxation pans that we don’t even see yet are going to fully collapse the free markets . Don’t you want to have just a little more time to try and find a path back ???

Steve,

We’re going to get either Obama or Romney as President in this election. Obviously, neither is perfect in any number of ways. However, I can see a definite difference in philosophies between these two men, a difference that may very well steer the country in the wrong direction, so I’ve voted for Romney to try to correct this problem. I am not diluted into thinking that Romney will suddenly transform the country into the Constitutionalist government that the founders originally visualized, but I do believe he can give us an opportunity to continue the struggle toward this goal. I’m convinced Obama wants to transform the country in a way that you won’t have that opportunity much longer.

George You are right , Obama even said the US Constitution is a Tired old rag that has never worked never will , so transformation is his Goal away from that and to the Dreams of his Fathers

It would seem that the reality of the situation is that Obama and Romney represent the two greatest factions of those who are enslaving us: Obama is from the communist faction, allied closely with Russia/Putin and China.

Romney represents the NAZI faction, the European NWO/Rothschilds.

Granted, the lines are somewhat blurred on these psychopaths from our point of view. They all seek absolute power and nothing for us. No doubt they care little which one wins. Even though they have some infighting going on, I’m sure they plan to take care of one another.

Either way, we the people lose out on this one, as usual.

BTW, it also seems that the plan is to cause one series of disasters after another, so that the homeless survivors will be “cared for” in their local Camp FEMA. When the dust settles, those who survive CF will be relocated to newly built UN Agenda 21 controlled cities, fully chipped and assimilated into the Borg Matrix. (Note that these cities are already built and awaiting in China. It seems that the Chinese are well ahead of us.)

Romney won’t save us from this. He’s for it. Obama has declared himself fully behind with Agenda 21.

If this is not what we want for our children and grandchildren, we’d better come up with another plan.

Has anyone seen this?

http://www.ubuntuparty.org.za/p/home.html

jeff, you are stupid all the time if you believe anything O says, even if he told the truth it would still be a lie.

Yes, you are right I’m afraid. But imagine an election where we had a REAL choice – like day and night difference? If we don’t start looking to another party and other non-mainstream backed candidates then it will never happen. I voted Gary Johnson just to let the system know they need to be scared and that I had to guts to vote from someone the New World Order does not want to ever come to power!

If you travel West, George, do you really have any hopes of ever reaching a destination North of you?
In 4 years it will be yet another Lesser of Two Evils choice as it has been for the 40 years of my voting age. When do you throw in the towel?

DaveH,

Good question. I’m definitely not ready to throw in the towel and give up to the socialists. That’s what “throwing in the towel” means to me.

If I were a Libertarian strategist, which I’m not, I’d have to take a view of the world much like the socialists have. They realized that they couldn’t win majority elections in this country on a 3rd party ticket, so they elected to get their candidates in office by running as Democrats. This has worked for them, and now one of the biggest socialist in the country has now become our President. If I really wanted to change the culture in this country to a Libertarian view, I’d take note that the Tea Party actually made a difference in recent elections by working through the Republican Party. This is the way Libertarians should do it as well, I think. You will get your candidates in office quicker than running as 3rd party candidates, and actually have an impact on Republican Party politics. But handing elections over to the socialists because you can’t get your 3rd party candidates elected is just not a good practical long-term approach to obtaining your goals, I don’t think.

How has that working within the Republican Party worked for you, George? Has Government gotten any smaller?
How in the world would you think the Republicans would take us away from Socialism when their Party was founded in the mid-1800s on the concepts of Mercantilism (Crony Capitalism)? And when their party started the Progressive Movement with Theodore Roosevelt? If you paid any attention at all, you saw the way they swept Ron Paul under the rug at the convention. To think that you can change the Republican Party from within, is some mighty powerful wishin’ and hopin’.

DaveH,

It’s tough, but the best shot you’ve got, I think. The Tea Party is making a difference working within the Republican Party.

> The Tea Party is making a difference working within the Republican Party.

based on what metric, do you believe this?
(not trying to be condescending, an honest question. I hear people say this kind of thing all the time, but I just don’t see it.)

– Smoov

Smoovious,

I don’t know of any metrics on this, so I’m obviously giving you my opinion. I base this opinion on the following: 1) a number of Tea Party candidates won Republican primaries against “establishment” Republican candidates, 2) several Tea Party candidates won elections when they weren’t expected to by the “experts”, and 3) Tea Party Congressmen/women often drove agenda items in the House of Representatives to the chagrin of many establishment Republicans, Democrats including the Obama administration, and main stream media. This was pretty good since the Tea Party is a “people’s grassroots movement” which was endlessly attacked with unfounded allegations by all of the above as being an extreme right-wing racist organization.

George E, it’s an overstatement to say that the Tea Party has anything to do with the politics in the Senate or Congress. I’d have to say they’ve been relatively successful at supporting candidates. It’s a slow process trying to find real Constitutional candidates and even though the Tea Party movement has had some success endorsing and supporting certain candidates through the election process…it’s not magic that candidates suddenly declare themselves to be conservative…That became the theme for most candidates before the 2010 mid-terms despite the majority of them are nothing more than neo-cons. Remember that the Tea Party movement is a movement of human beings and humans are not infallable.

The’re patriot that do love their country though but do not trust our government…that’s the lind of common ground I share with the Tea Party and that’s why I am in support of the movement.

Justices need to start rule by law only. There should be no legislation from the bench. That is not what the justices are elected to do. They are to settle disputes within the law. Not make new rulings by precident or try to influence laws.

The Vietnam War as produced by the Neocon Progressives, the other side of the Progressive coin. What do the Neocon Progressives and the Liberal Progressives have in common? They both advocate Big Government and they share many of the same Crony Capitalists.

I’d make a couple distinctions between the Progressives and Neo-Cons regarding the Vietnam War. First, while both Eisenhower and Kennedy had military advisors in Vietnam, it was really LBJ that got this country into that war in a big way, and did a very poor job of conducting the war in a way that would end it in our favor. He did not run for re-election because the war was so unpopular by the end of his first elected term. Nixon got us out of the war, but wanted to leave as victors, not losers. Militarily speaking, he did that. It was the Democrats, primarily, in Congress that cut off support to the South Vietnamese government after our military left that played a principle role in causing that government to fall to the Communists. Of course, Nixon’s own political screw-ups didn’t help either.

The Vietnam War was a terrible event for this country in many ways. History may decide that we shouldn’t have gotten involved in it the way we did. However, I don’t think that final chapter has been written yet, at least in my mind. There are still too many strong personal feelings about the war to be completely objective about it. Nevertheless, I do think it is pretty clear that while people and politicians of both major political parties supported much of the war, especially early on, it is true that LBJ and his administration took the lead in getting us deeply involved in the war almost to the point of no return, and it was the Democrats who took the lead in “throwing in the towel” when it became clear it wasn’t going to be a quick and easy war to win. We definitely shouldn’t go to war when it’s not necessary, but when we do go to war, we should fight to win, not give up when the going gets tough. I think the Democrats probably violated both of these rules in Vietnam.

You do know, George, that there are Neocon Progressives in both parties, don’t you?

Yes.

Thanks a lot for your constructive comment. I do share some libertarian ideals and not necessarily nor exclusively all the positions of the Republican Party. (I campaigned and voted for Bob Kennedy in the California primary, June 1968…). But, it is important that we unite to stop and reverse the direction this country is going at the present time, away from the virtues, ideals and principles on which it was founded. For now, the only way to go back to our origin is to elect Romeny and Ryan. If you want to read my books in English, yahoo or google me, writing my name this way only. Roger R. Fernandez

JEFF don’t Let the Power and Independence be consolidated into a Central Power like the Federal Government , what are you doing man , are you wanting to reduce the US Flag down to a ONE STAR FLAG ??? REPORT the TRUTH about what the Bureaucrat , Technocratic and Political Ideologues are screwing up and planning, and why BIG GOVERNMENT like the FOUNDERS WARNED us Against is Now Threatening the Liberties and God Given right to Life and the Pursuit of happiness is under siege by the very Ideologues we were warned would be coming , over and over and over again , its Our time to realize this and deal with it , and Vote these people out of Power !!!!!
Justice with Judge Jeanine Opening Statement 10/27/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mg-e71IDAUw
Globalists Suggest Engineering Smaller Humans to Preserve Natural Resources
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My wife (very happily married for 12 years) is from Ukraine (former Soviet Union). I traveled there in 2007 for the 75th anniversary of the ‘Great Starvation’ which happened under Stalin in 1932. My wife is of the strong opinion that all you folks who want to live under a centralized all-powerful federal government should have had to live under Stalin back when. Then you would change your ‘tune’. She also sees mainstream media here as no different from the government controlled ‘Pravda’ and ‘TAS’ back in the day of the CCCP (USSR). I see a lot of voices here (shockingly so) who I believe would have been cheering Caesar when he crossed the Rubicon and brought his legions into Rome! Oh, how true it is that ‘those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it!’.

Absolutely true Jeff. What short memories some have in the terrible destruction some big businesses had on America. They became wealthy by ruining other important aspects of our lives. Then the taxpayer had to come in and clean up after them and I don’t believe most Americans want to return to those days. Maybe someday we’ll find a decent balance.

You do have a point Jeff. I am not in favor of eliminating Federal government, just reining it in, restoring checks and ballances (and thereby the Bill of Rights) and keeping them out of my back yard and bedroom.

So many ignorant statements by Jeff, but you gotta love this one — “Weakening the federal government has one aim – the empowerment of big business”.
Pick up a copy of this book to learn just how wrong (as usual) Jeff is:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

And here’s a Free book (thank you Mises Institute) from which you can learn how Government (at all levels) has been aiding fraudulent banks since the beginnings of our country:
http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

Probably before you read “A History of Money and Banking in the United States”, you should read this book to get a better grasp for the concept of money:
http://mises.org/books/whathasgovernmentdone.pdf

Jeff:

Finally, a liberal who realizes pollution crosses boundaries! We have several Congressmen who are convinced that if they shut down all industry in the US it will keep our people safe. When pointed out to one of them that the companies would simply move to another country and build there (getting rid of all our jobs) the Congressman replied that at least the people wouldn’t get any pollution because it wouldn’t cross the border into our country.

The real problem is the level of pollution. Texas has a decent environmental agency. But the EPA tried to set up car standards for pollution that even NEW cars couldn’t meet. The only way you could drive is if you bought a new car (they were exempt from the standards for two years) or if you were on welfare (those cars did not have to be inspected). Many of the standards are ridiculous. For instance, it is okay to have an area contaminated with 30,000 ppm of lead since it was next to a highway intersection that the government would have to clean up while a 3 ppm level was too high if it was on private land. Explain that one.

Steve Van:

You are right about the history and the Soviet Union! Every preson who insists that socialism is the way to go should have to live in Cuba (as an example) for 5 years. History has so many errors in it (at government requirements) that it is almost useless in high school. What REALLY happened has been one of my hobbies for many years. A local high school girl realized that one of the things in her history book was wrong and brought it to the teacher’s attention; she was told by the teacher that “this is the way the government wants you to learn it so you better learn it this way. And it WILL be on the test!”

I would urge everyone to make a study of history – to find out what happened so we don’t repeat the errors made. I’ve said many times that any time you hear a politician say “Look to the future!” that he’s trying to insure you don’t realize he’s making the same mistake others have made before – and it didn’t work then either.

I’m liking the 3rd party thing. Until we find out the we are voting the lesser of 5 evils! I hope not.

I’m always amazed at those who seem to like being repressed or think the Reps or Dems are the answer when it should be obvious they’re the problem. Just how many rights can these people lose and still get on a major party wagon? I’m more amazed they think that somehow being a cheerleader must protect them from the state. Just step on that crack in the sidewalk after some govt. idiots have passed a law not to, find out what your undying loyalty gets you then.

Eightsouthman – AMEN BROTHER!! It is pitiful isn’t it? Sounds like you are an INFOWARS.COM listener and know what is going on and wide awake.

Dear Steve and 8 Southerman,

As you must kow by now the method of what was written down all those years ago by a few real men. ( Was ~ back then we elected “ADVOCATES” ~ to be our voice as in we the people,) ~ who elected our Congress persons, as well that each states Governors appointed each states Senate persons.

Now what we have are “LAW MAKERS” ~ as they feel we are just to stupid to know whats good for us.

As well as I noted above, the issue is ~~”CENTARLIZATION” ~~ of POWER.

That Completes the circle, ~ to take away your Rights granted under the Bill of Rights as well makes the Constitution ~ Null & Void. Oddly ~ By your own Consent, due to the same protocol used every TIME, ~~ Create an problem,~~ have event, ~~ have solution in hand, then have the people BEG for that very Solution. .

Look ~ what all of you need to understand is this: There are two sides of LIGHT, there is Good and there is EVIL, ~ both see things from a differant point of view based on the lights used by each.

Thus if your a ” BENEVOLENT” person you see positive light,
Yet if your a “Malicious” person you also see a light but its different.

Thus ~ both have a like balance, ~ just a totaly different ~ platform..

Peace and Love be with you. Got your bus tickets yet?

No, Time, that is not the way it is. You can do more damage to a people when people perceive that they are being done good. They won’t question the motives as to why someone wants to do them “good”.

Dear Nad,

Some day you may wish to look into ~ “Comprehension”

Peace and Love be with you.

Roger, What is your reply to these headlines? “TSA “DRY HUMPINGS(?)” SUSPENDED! Wacko with an undiscovered crotch bomb blows up plane carrying 300 school kids on school trip. ”

“Don’t touch our bodies! We don’t care how many die.” Signed: Personal Liberty Alert
PITIFUL!! TAKE A BUS!!

You’re the coward, NC. You take the bus.

nc….how stupid can you possibly be?
the TSA has NEVER caught ANYONE that was a threat of ANY kind
What they are in place to do is humiliate Americans….veterans, old ladies in wheel chairs, little children….you know! Like the Brown Shirt NAZI’s they really are.
They have got to go right along with all you liberal (socialist) Pcs. of….work.

80 year old Grandmothers don’t carry bombs in their “Depends” nor do 2 year old toddlers! No one puts their hands on me without my permission! I will never fly again. Till this Country get’s off this politically correct “horse[expletive deleted]” we’ll never be safe! Racial profiling? You’r damned right! Sorry if i offend you or make you uneasy but decisions should be based on FACTS! Fact is, 99% of EVERY terrorist attack on our Country and others have been by Muslim Males between the ages of 28 to 35! Ya don’t have to ba a damned “rocket scientist” to figure this out people! Wake ta hell up!

Well said…………

Great article, Michael.

Actually sir, Mr. Boldin, your article was a piece of recycled garbage, which could only appeal to the “functionally illiterate”…….

Confused?

You use your set up to establish that the government is ignoring the constitution, they ignore lawful money, limits on declaring war, and just about anything they want that is inconvenient……..

But you in your wisdom are involved with a movement that believes that an amendment
is going to make a difference………how’s that working out for ya buddy???????

Idiots leading idiots……I guess the leader’s are getting paid…..looks like you are getting
paid……….so how does this work…….just keep babbling as long as the money comes in?

It’s not like the government cares,,,,,,,you are just another fool distracting the public from the TRUTH……………better yet, be an excellent idea if they let everyone believe you actually represented a threat………sound familiar?

Does that improve sales? or donations?

Enjoy buddy……while you can……remember though, in most cases the TRUTH doesn’t pay well………

Dear Elenag,

Wow ~ Now thats a good question, I think you know the answer as its written within the confines of the very Doucment we hold as the Root of this nation. { BTW }a doucment that was based on the {Native American tribes} method of governing.
~~Thats also why the 2nd Amendment was written, ~ as it was sure not for hunting chickens.~
As we all have been told by the CRIMINALS in the City State of DC.

Please also note again I bring up the $43 TRILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT that has been filed against these Globlist Criminals who make Madoff look like a baby.
Also ~ Again the { Children } of the CNBC Exc that reported on this lawsuit, were killed by being stabbed to death, ~ now so you get what we are dealing with his children were ages 2, and 6 and they were “”stabbed multiple times.”"

We are all going to loose a lot, and you all have to be ready for stepping back in TIME, as in after we clean up the MONEY issue, it will be back to making $5K per year on the high end. But at least it will be {real wealth} and not this Hyper inflated worthless paper.
Of what ~ again to buy a single OZ of silver takes $39.00 paper dollars, and thats as of today,~~ after a few more rounds of QE 3 that number will be more in line with $250.00.

Peace and Love be with you. Got your bus tiucket yet?

Well if people are stupid, they at least understand “money” and for the common man
this is exactly what the pay off is…….no more fees, fines, or taxes…..no more being subjected to stupid laws that seek to punish you, when no harm or damage is caused…..

Whether it is greed or desperation the result is the same and the learning process an
education in itself……..because getting the Constitution back is only the first step, once
that has been done, we are faced with the daunting task of having to re-argue it all over again………and the process of fighting back will also prepare people for this task…….

Is it purely coincidence that the word “money” is contained in the name Romney?

You know the Democrats are feeling desperate when they have to resort to issues like that.

Lighten up, George. It was a joke and I don’t think we have any swing voters here. Plus, I don’t speak for anyone but me. But speaking of desperation, what did you think of Romney’s totally dishonest Chrysler ad? I know, you probably loved it, but most sane people find it to be typical of Romney (i.e. “pants on fire”).

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/blogs/death-race/2012/10/romneys-not-true-chrysler-ad-glad-were-back-to-2012-as-usual.html

Jeff says:
“Is it purely coincidence that the word “money” is contained in the name Romney?”

You forgot to mention that ‘R’ is left over. R as in Republican. Coincidence?

I think it’s a pirate “R”, as in “Arrrr! Money!”

Unfortunately, that is not even a relevant comment, let along a good one……anymore
than this article written by Boldin is anything more than a call to waste energy on things
which will have no effect or the idiotic belief that Ron Paul or Napolitano could restore to you that which you have unwittingly VOLUTEERED to surrender………

There is no secret law……..it is admiralty and maritime law and the flag flies in every
court room state and federal……….while the UCC is also in place in both state and federal jurisdictions………

All those little bits of evidence that are clearly unconstitutional……..and every other thing
that is seemingly off…..as your “privileges, benefits and immunities” are whittled…..all
of it is explained by the fact that you are no longer operating under “common law”…..
nor do you reside in a state…….nor are you identified on any legal document as
DavidH………You are now DAVIDH……..and you live in a two letter designated
federal district………….and apparently you have been in a coma all your life……..

ad nauseum???? you betcha……..in every way possible and at every opportunity….
noting the cheerful fact that you are PAYING your unfair share and part of everyone else’s
that understands this TRUTH. So every time you open you wallet to pony up, think
of ME TOO……….

As I’ve said before, Galt, I have no fear of you convincing people with your grammatically poorly written and disjointed comments. So I feel no dire need to bother with your comments.

Actually you can’t respond intelligently because you have never bothered to READ the information provided……or you wouldn’t have posted that link as an interesting comment….when it was irrelevant.

What you seem to be in dire need of is a way to stop the re-distribution your hard earned
money, because you can’t stop complaining about it………..

So since you are not going to do anything to help yourself and you are not
concerned that others may listen and do something to help themselves ( which has
got be the stupidest self contradictory position ever held by a human being ) why
is it that…….

You keep responding saying that it doesn’t matter and that you can’t be bothered to
respond?

It is amazing the sheer number of idiots that waste time repeating that very same line…over, and over and over…….

Galt tries his adolescent manipulative techniques once again, as usual. You’re boring Galt.

Yes DavidH, for those of childish intellect, FACTS would be quite boring, after all living
in fantasy land where you can just make stuff up and avoid REALITY requires no effort
what so ever………as you so aptly demonstrate.

Creepy Bastard (aka DaveH) knows only one thing. His MONEY is his MONEY and any taxation is the same as theft. Creepy Bastard uses public roads and the internet, presumably he went to school somewhere, he benefits from the society in many ways, but his MONEY is his and nobody else is allowed to look at it. Sounds like a 4-year-old except the 4-year-old probably has a Mother who encourages sharing. It’s the difference between a human and a Creepy Bastard.

Good God Jeff you want to Give a bunch of Cronies more Money and control , don’t be foolish man !!!
And to top it all off the Top Crony wants to cap Growth and Limit tax revenue growth by this limitation on growth his extreme Regulatory Bolsheviks have going on and then expects to Raise taxes to Compensate for this CABAL on Liberty For crying out Loud man this Guy is not this stupid so hes got a master plan that will bring down the capital system and you are buying into this ???

I’m not talking about tax rates. Creepy Bastard equates the very concept of taxation with theft. So do the rates really matter?

Pennsylvania , Ohio are Not hearing this I bet !!!!
So OHIO are you Going to Vote for Yet again Obama because He says he will get you manufacturing JOBS and then He drop the ball like he did before ??????

Right here in this article 2008 Hillary and Obama are at each others Throats about the Manufacturing Jobs in OHIO and how Clintons trade policies were at fault for the Out sourcing , and then Obamas Economic Adviser says don’t take it Serious Folks ,
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/03/clinton_goes_af.html
I think we need to try someone NEW maybe he has a WHOLE NEW IDEA !!!
Northey makes case for Romney election
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/e-newsletters/drovers-daily/Northey-makes-case-for-Romney-election-175992361.html

Ohio is adding manufacturing jobs. The Chrysler plant Romney has been lying about is adding jobs. What would you have Obama do – start a business and employ people himself? You say government can’t do anything, then you blame Obama for not doing anything. It can’t be both ways. Meanwhile, look what Romney (he;’s the major investor) is doing in Freeport, Illinois with the Sensata factory. The whole plant is closing and all the jobs are going to China. If he really wants to fight for American manufacturing jobs, wouldn’t this be a good place to start? With a personal commitment that might cost him a huge windfall profit? But then he wouldn’t be Romney, would he?

Jeff You just took a Crap all over Obama by saying he has nothing to do with the Jobs in Ohio and hes AWOL on the Jobs leaving for China , looks like you are starting to see the Light , I knew you would the longer we debated ……

Can you actually read and understand a sentence? I said you said the government can’t do anything.

Jeff lets talk about this , • MSN Money
Should FEMA be run by the states?
ht tp ://money.msn.com/politics/post.aspx?post=7ccf234a-f324-4cb9-baae-dc362f18decb&ocid=vt_fbmsnmon
I think Yes because the Money being controlled by a federal Government thats too ideologically perverted to be Preemptively focused on states needs and tries to centralize the relief efforts causes bottle necks in distribution efforts . States being in more control would spread the resources out and better access faster would be a better result . All you need to do to see a Example of the Use of money and resources by Ideological Federal Officials is in this Video …. ht tp ://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/25/obama-on-leno-these-banks-are-profit-seekers-which-is-precisely-why-we-need-to-regulate-them/

Jeff its Obamas Money right ?? We better get use to this NEW Currency that will have on the front in BIG Bold Letters BEG and I might trickle some down to you after me and my cronies get done …. oh and get to volunteering for the work we need done on fixing our roads and hoeing the fields if you want something to eat because China cut off our regular parts supplies so i had to declare a State of Economic National security nationalizing and rationing the supply on hand , so you all work for me now so get use to it !!!!

Oh and Jeff when we are out in the fields the New Snap-on Truck will be a Cart pulled by a Donkey and he will be distributing Hoes, Rakes, Shovels and other hand tools to Hand working the Fields rather than tools to fix tractors , same with the Road work Picks and shovels for that , too so this will eliminate those Useless eater now won’t it ????

Jeff I think rather than go down that road of who Really wants to go Backwards to reduce population growth , it would be better to go with this guy , listen to what this Iowa state sec of Agriculture says , Northey makes case for Romney election
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/e-newsletters/drovers-daily/Northey-makes-case-for-Romney-election-175992361.html

“…a revolution in thought and action isn’t a top-down proposal. It’s bottom up.” Guess you forgot to read that part.

You either ‘get it’ or you don’t. All I can do is toss the seeds. I have no control over whether they land on fertile soil or hard rock! And just where, exactly, has following your strategy gotten us? Talk about the definition of insanity? i.e. doing the same thing over and over again (every 4 years) and voting for one of the racehorses owned by the ‘mafia’ (aka New World Order Bankers) and expecting a different and glorious outcome. I say NO THANKS to that. Besides, there isn’t an ounce of difference between Romney and Obama anyway – only a little in their rhetoric! As I told my mother – anyone who votes their true beliefs and conscience, even if for a 3rd party which won’t win (this time!), is NOT throwing their vote away. But, people who run out under the control and influence of the 2 mainstream parties and vote for what they perceive as the ‘good cop’ in a ‘good cop/bad cop’ set up staged scenario… THOSE are the people who are truly throwing their vote away! Maybe if Obama were to be re-elected, more people would WAKE THE HECK UP, whereas with Romeny, everyone goes back to sleep and tune back in to favorite sports and reality TV shows.

I’ll break it down to simpler terms. Don’t vote for a single demonrat and everyone else is fair game.

Danny, do you really keep up with geopolitics or just crawl out from in front of the boob tube only every 4 years? I realize that I agree with you more than a Democrat, but as a former Republican (now a Libertarian), I have to wonder how much you really know. I think you need a good dose of Alex Jones at infowars.com. About a month of learning from Alex should flush out all that ales you, and get you some real knowledge in the process. I would also suggest that you re-familiarize yourself with the definition of insanity – because dumbed down Americans display this every 4 years when they go out and vote and are convinced that either a Democrat or Republican (depending on your persuasion) is doing to miraculously save the country and turn it around. I got news for you – with EITHER of them – AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN. If the mafia owns all the horses at the race, don’t you think they laugh at you behind your back when you and a friend go to the races and try to decide which horse to bet on? They don’t care which one you bet on because they own all of them!!! Wake up man, and stop being a mouthpiece for one of the corrupt to the core main parties!

danny, I am confounded as to how you managed to put “Conservative” and “Republican” into the same sentence. The Republican party is about 2 degrees right of the Democrats. They’re all about massive government incursions into our lives, same as the left.
They’re all about massive “security” measures that don’t do a thing for security, but do take away even more of our rights. I already voted for Romney as being the lesser of two disgusting weasels that don’t give a damn about America or Americans…but I have to wonder….what if the Kenyan low life won again….would it help bring about the massive anti-government movement this country so desperately needs?

You can demand the two houses vote your way all you want, but they dont do it. They were going to impeach obama? not. they were going to get rid of Geitner and Holder? not.They are in it for the pensions.

Michael is right, danny. I’ve witnessed the same events election after election for 40 years now. And no matter how many times the result has been Bigger Government (every time), still the blindered sheeple keep trying the Lesser of Two Evils paradigm.

You certainly don’t have to listen to my advice. For many, the Constitution is quite extreme. But I’ll take Jefferson and Madison over those who hate their work any day.

The haters being those behind the Civil War Amendments (13. 14, 15)?

So, Jeff, you’re saying you want to bring slavery back?

Are you talkin’ to me?

Vigilant says:

October 30, 2012 at 12:38 pm

So, Jeff, you’re saying you want to bring slavery back?
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You can’t possibly expect to be taken seriously on any level with a question like that Vigilant.

What good does it do to vote for another anti-constitutionalist because he is a Republican? Actions speak louder than words. Mitt Romney was for gun control before he was against it. He created Obamacare in taxachussets. It isn’t sour grapes, it is just that some of us are principled and have a backbone.

@danny: No one is a sore loser. This isn’t a soccer match or a football game where the stakes are low and Rah! Rah! works to help the outcome. Both mainstream candidates are Socialist, and both report to the same New World Order Globalist sponsors who paid for their advertising. I love Boldin’s article, but there is one thing with which I disagree: It is not the Federal Government control that we have as a problem so much as it is Federal Government control by corporations. Corporations are the new feudal system. The same monarchies and aristocrats are in control of the corporations that controlled the feudal system, and now they are allied with wealthy industrialists. The Middle Class is headed for slavery as serfs, dependent on large corporations for a meager living. The Tea Party needs to get ALEC banned, the Republican organization where lawmakers, lobbyists, and corporations meet to craft our laws. The Tea Party also needs to step on any proposed law that allows corporations to have an advantage over the Middle Class. The problem in our country isn’t poverty, but upholding and maintaining the Middle Class, so poverty does not develop. The monarchies and aristocrats do not like the Middle Class because they are a pesky nuisance. What we are finding is that the Middle Class is very easily manipulated. The Middle Class is always very busy,, and they do not take the time to research issues. Too many of them are just looking for a hero to pin their hopes on. The Middle Class must start looking under the hood to examine everything they hear because they are being duped over and over again by both Republicans and Democrats. If a voter starts from the premise that everything he hears is a lie, which means every issue needs investigation then we will have an educated Middle Class.

No, Danny, Boldin isn’t a sore loser. He’s a realist. Right now, we don’t have any MAJOR candidates who aren’t in the globalists’ back pockets. For over 100 years, this country has been plagued with a disease brought on by parasites like the Rockefellers and their socially dysfunctional banking maggots (or is that magnates?). They’ve managed to convince everyone that life is all about money and not about our social relationships. They would have us believe that our prime connection should be with our bank as opposed to our friends, families, and neighbors, and rather than everyone join in for an Amish style barn-raising, these people would have us believe that owing money to a bank does more for our independence than appreciating our neighbors for helping raise the barn. They’ve twisted our value system upside down with THEM, coincidentally, always being at the deep end of the feeding trough.

Boldin may be correct about Stein and Johnson, sadly. In the 2008 election, I contacted all of the realistic third party offices and suggested that the only way any one of them was going to win was if they ALL threw their supporters in support of ONE single candidate. As much as pride and egos can’t let some things go, if these people can’t do this for Team US, we ALL lose. Nader, Paul, Barr, McKinney (she’s sharp, BTW), Baldwin, Gravel, and at the time Kucinich; all of these people SHOULD have been willing to bow down and put their country first. Instead, they bowed out and left the voters out in the cold.

In this election, I’m not hearing anything different. I’m not hearing that all the candidates were willing to support Jill Stein, Johnson, Anderson or whomever. Out of all the other candidates, I may lean toward Johnson, but what good is it if we, as third party supporters, are all still willing to follow our leader to voter oblivion because we picked yet another loser. Instead, these potential “leaders” SHOULD be helping to decide which among them should be the standard bearer for us all so that we can all put our eggs in the same basket and not risk losing our brethren on the wings of the undecided to voting for the lesser of two evils ……. again.

Actually danny, Romney is Obama and will continue his illegal policies. I can list 47 of them here AGAIN if you need them; here is just a few from the list:
Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget or paying it down.
They both believe in big government.
They both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.
Romney supported/supports Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages.
Both support TARP.
Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.
They both want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.
Both are “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.
Both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.
Both support the NDAA – indefinite detention with no crime committed, pre crime arrests, etc.
Both of them supported the renewal of the USA PATRIOT Act.
Both candidates believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens.
Both candidates believe that American citizens that they SUSPECT MIGHT being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.
Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.
Both candidates support the practice of “extraordinary rendition”.
They both ship jobs out of the country.
They outsource jobs here inside the USA to foreign nations – repairing our roads, bridges, building cars, etc becasue no o ne in America can do those things.

Okay, more then a few. But definately NOT the complete list.
Another important one is they both support Agenda 21 which takes away any property or business, or cars, etc away from us. We will no longer be ALLOWED to own property, cars, a business, etc (Look up Alabama’s Senate Bill (SB) 477 which bans it in that state).

Ann Wilson:

You need to do some study. It is no more the corporations that control government than it is some minority group. A few of the real leaders get their money from corporations but very few actually work or have ever worked. Corporations are made up of workers.

Basically you can call the real leaders of both the Demos and the GOP whatever you like – One Worlders, intellectual elite, etc. – but they are simply people who are convinced that because they have inherited their money and have made more by investing that they are smarter than everyone else and therefore deserve to tell everyone else how to live. And, since it also insures that no one ever puts them at risk of losing their money, if they help themselves at the same time it is only fair. After all, they are better than the rest of us and deserve to have the perks none of us should have.

My response to Danny was obviously in regard to candidate donations. You need to do your reading, Globalism is about corporate control.

So Danny, where is the ‘conservative Republican’ you have in mind? Since it’s not possible to accurately call Mitt ‘conservative’, who’d ya have in mind?

Ron Paul, who many foolish un-researched sheep like to trash, was the only true major ‘party’ candidate who was running who actually IS a fiscal conservative. Ron would have come with a marvelous bonus; Ron is also a Constitution advocate who would follow our Founder’s advice.

Mitt? Here ya go:

Romney exposed
http://tinyurl.com/86meydk

Fake Conservative Mitt:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh123.htm

Snakes On A Campaign, M Romney, by Southern Avenger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3etUOq7hVE\

Romney & 0bama the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS9SF3vc-A

Thanks.

SamFox

As far as “another Ron Paul supporter”.

I can tell from your comment tht you do not know that our government is a Constitutional Republic and what that entails. We owe our allegiance to that document, not anyone who is temporarily occupying positons to do the duties the Constitution assigned that branch. That is all they are Temporary help. Are they illegally taking powers not assigned to them. Sure. Because it is up to the ones who made the states, which created the Constitution, which defined what the federal government can do, broke it into three branches, reitereated our natural rights that they are forbidden to ever mess with … This knkowledge that ALL American citizens are supposed to have is why education was dumbed down. Here, something that might help you to understand, the emphasis is mine:

“God provided that in this land of liberty, OUR POLITICAL ALLEGIANCE SHALL RUN NOT TO INDIVIDUALS, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan OUR ALLEGIANCE AND THE ONLY ALLEGIANCE WE OWE AS CITIZENS or denizens OF THE UNITED STATES, RUNS TO OUR INSPIRED CONSTITUTION which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. THIS PRINCIPLE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION IS BASIC TO OUR FREEDOM. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this “land of liberty” from other countries”. J. Reuben Clark

Think of it this way: the Constitution assigns duties to those who serve within the three branches of our government. A US President is assigned the duty of enforcing the legal laws of our nation (legal laws MUST follow the US Constitution or are illegal, and can only be enforced by thsoe who do not understand their Oath, or are willing to obey orders without question – Germany – or are assisting in the destruction of our legitimate government willingly.

Like assigning a child the duty to clean their room: it does not matter if the room is in a house, a palace, or a space ship – their job is to clean their room. The job does not change, understand?

The first question a Presidential Candidate SHOULD always be asked is where they stand on the US Constitution and will they keep their legally binding Oath? If they say no, or that they want to change our government they should be discarded as a candidate.

Ron Paul has fought for our legitimate government for his whole polical career against those who were bought and sold with no honor, no honesty and are willing to destroy our nation, take YOUR life, your chidlren’s life, etc.

Let me know if you are finally willing to understand YOUR part of the US Government – because here in America – “We the People” are sovereign. And what happens here is what WE allow.

Get your head out of your rear.
Its already been explained why the 2 party system is corrupting this country and you ignorantly profess to keep on doing the same thing. People like you are the problem.

Thank the Good Lord God Almighty in Heaven one of y’all blessedly enlightened “Liberty Alert” “10ther” Libertarians finally put it all in one nutshell and what you can reasonably do about it that would be the most productive!!!! I read this newsletter daily. It is, BY FAR, the most astute and even actually quite profound often. They talk about “Starbucks socialists”- I never wanted to be an “e-mail libertarian/conservative” but I couldn’t see how to be effective other than voting (and I live in DC so even that’s not going to do much, if anything). You made my day.

Obviously you don’t get it! Mitt is a globalist just like Obama!
If conservatives voted by principals instead of a party we could actually save out country!
If led by conviction and moral value you would have to abandon 95% of the republican party! The GOP is as corrupt as the Democrats!
They serve themselves, the interest of banks and large corporations, NOT the interest of the people,
What used to be called (Post of Honor) these politicians have corrupted into Seats of Greed and Seats of Power. And who my friend wouldn’t? The most evil and corrupt of men except save a few will move heaven and earth to become a congressmen president senator of these “United States.”
God help us! Ben Franklin gave this exact warning in his letter The Dangers of Salried Beuracracy and conservatives who vote for the GOP have failed to heed it! The people who should know better!

How can anyone take a political party seriously if they can’t even operate a convention without a teleprompter with the results already pre-written?

These are supposed to be political people who should already know how the House, the Senate, and how conventions are run. What the 7734 do they need a word-for-word script for?

Follow the agenda, call the votes and debates as needed, and record the results. Business as usual for politicians.

If the people who are chairing, and their parties, need to do this stuff off of a script, why in the 7734 are we voting for them to do this for a living?

– Smoov

danny:

Conservative Republican has become an oxymoron over the last few decades.

I hear / see that God Bless America mantra all the time. However, God will not bless Ameican unless America first Blesses God.

Michael Boldin is right on – ! We must focus at the STATE level. This article reminds me of what Margaret Mead said:

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”

I can think of many good examples of this quote – Mahatma Ghandi, MADD, the Tea Party, medical marijuana, and most recently, a victory is close on GMO deception:

http://www.infowars.com/dont-celebrate-yet-but-a-grassroots-victory-against-gmo-deception-is-now-inevitable/

Here in Texas, ex-CIA goon Lieut Gov. David Dewhurst lost BIG TIME to Ted Cruz in the election for a senate seat to be vacated by career politician Kay Bailey Hutchison. Ted Cruz is endorsed by the Tea Party. Texans were furious with Dewhurst because he put pressure on democrats and a few weak kneed republicans in the Texas legislature to vote down legislation to rid us of the TSA at our airports.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/tonights-second-biggest-loser.html

Hopefully this article is correct and Rick Perry is the next to go:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/07/tonights-second-biggest-loser.html

Hmm? It’s these sweeping generalization that you sometimes make, we all are guilty of it at times~ while yours is sometimes snappy and biting ~ so people snap back David.

You are a bright person, ` work to improve, I have had too. As I have offered many times ~ polarizing people by attempting to insult or demising them closes their mind, not open it.

I confess, sometimes I am guilt of just not caring to attempt to try with some~ but we should.

Accept the fact, we need a public consensus for any change that you might wish to implement. This requires numbers of people that share your views. Pissing a lot of people off , telling them how dumb they are is not a good way to do that.

Yeah, but revolutions spring up from the bottom…

– Smoov

There are leaders and there are rulers. The difference is significant.

Leaders say “go this way or else” then go a certain way and wait (for you to follow, or not)

Rulers say “go this way or else” then put a gun to your head to make it clear that there is only one “else”.

Leaders honor your God given free will.
Rulers force you to follow their will.

Leaders will come back to get you when you change your mind.
Rulers will toss the dirt on your grave.

Actually, that is true for countries that have a person or group of people as their government: Dictators, Monarchies, etc.

Here in the USA our government IS the US Constitution – a document – not any of the people who temporarily occupy positions within the Federal government, nor those who also temporarily occupy positions within our state republic governments.

The reason why the Constitution of the United States of America is attacked so much is destroying it destroys our government, our liberty, our way of life. Notice that the stronger the attacks are on it, the worse our lives have gotten. When “We the People” are doing OUR job as the sovereign of this country and hodling those temporary workers accountable for their illegal actions then that will change.

Unfortunately they have made many of the FBI, SS, and Law enforcement around our nation criminals like what happened in Germany (slow takeover of the constitutional government there, using the police – plus militirizing them – and military against the people because they the ones that are trained to “follow orders”, etc)

I appreciate your kind words, JeffH.

JeffH,

I’ll second that. I don’t agree with everything DaveH says, but I think he is certainly a valued contributor to this site, worthy of being heard and listened to..

George, well said. I may not always agree with Dave either but he’s gained my respect and understanding…whether I agree or not.

I’ll be the first to third that.

“Boy-O-Boy…another attack pointed at DaveH.”

If you are refering to my comment it is not an attack on DaveH rather only pointing out the fact that he never promotes grassroots efforts to build the libertarian party. All you ever hear out of him concerning voting is “vote Gary johnson” or the more generic “vote libertarian” in connection with presidential voting.

Dennis48e, you are either blind or ignorant…I’ll assume you’re simply blind. Yes, that was an uncalled for personal attack.

Pay attention son…Yes, he’s passionate about what he believes in, Libertarianism, but to say that all he does is promote a vote for Gary Johnson is just not true. His message has always been consistant and unwavering …one of freedom and liberty.

Would you feel better if Dave constantly railed for the lesser of two evils…Romney or Republicans? Probably so!
and more often than not…enlightening.

You either haven’t been around long enough or you haven’t paid attention to the majority of his posts.

ABSOLUTELY!

And Obama is trying to make it all Government Bottom up Taking control of the private sector wealth creation way way way to much and thats a Dictatorship US Constitution Forbids such action and Calls for Impeachment of such people that become too dominate of the structure which you have described here Alex !!!!!!