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A Third Party Vote Is A Vote For America

October 25, 2012 by  

A Third Party Vote Is A Vote For America
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On Monday, Americans watched a supposedly liberal candidate for President and a supposedly conservative candidate for President agree on the importance of massive military spending.

Those who voted for Barack Obama in 2008 with the hopes of less American meddling in the Mideast heard him talking about why he has used drone attacks galore in the region, even killing an American citizen in the role of judge, jury and executioner. They heard why we must remain in the Mideast and why America must shun cuts to military spending.

Mitt Romney agreed with Obama on his points and upped the ante, suggesting that not only should cuts be shunned but also that military spending increases should be championed. And conservative voters watched yet another Romney forward-march toward centrist candidate, effectively Etch A Sketch-ing much of the “true conservative” Republican persona that many voters on the right so badly wanted to battle Obama in the coming election.

Oh yeah, and they talked about Israel. And Israel. And Israel. And Israel. It became apparent that the third and final Presidential “foreign policy” debate focused largely on domestic policy. When the candidates did focus on the intended topic, the differences in position were non-apparent.

So the choice — the “direction for America’s future” choice — is clear, and the next four years are going to be a continuation of the past 12: a back-and-forth over taxes at home that never reaches a clear and concrete conclusion to the benefit of anyone; a continued assault on Constitutional civil liberties; a continued boon to the American and International banking cartels; and, without a doubt, a continued effort to line the pockets of America’s ever-expanding military industrial complex, which will take the lives of more American volunteers abroad and continue to double down its domestic expansion.

Often, it seems that these political writings are constantly dismal in tone. But there is no other option, for the readers will continue to lie to themselves until they are no longer allowed a political opinion. But, for all of those who continue to lambaste anyone who suggests that neither Obama nor Romney is the man for the job, here are some points with which you may agree at least slightly.

  • America is financially doomed due to a little more than half a century of government ineptitude.
  • The only way to reverse the coming economic calamity is to implement drastic change and completely alter the way citizens of the Nation view their place in the world and their responsibility at home.
  • This was not a Nation built on the idea that a ruling class has the authority to manipulate a peasant class.
  • The government no longer works for you.
  • Debt cannot be lessened by increasing spending, whether it is on corporate welfare, domestic entitlements or the military.
  • A government with the ability to print money ad infinitum has no reason to tax its citizens’ income.
  • The National Defense Authorization Act, domestic surveillance dragnets set up to catch anyone critical of government, parliamentary police forces and threats to free speech, personal property and the right to personal defense must all be eliminated.

Neither Obama nor Romney agrees with any of these things. They both incorrectly believe that governments can effectively create jobs. They both believe that safety always trumps liberty. They believe in and belong to the ruling class and are surrounded by members of the military-industrial and banking cartels that flourish only when Average Joe flounders. They both believe that increasing government spending in one way or another will help to reduce the government’s debt.

So, say again that a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama; it doesn’t matter because a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. A vote for either man is a vote for moving again further from the principles upon which this Nation was founded.

A third party vote may indeed be a fool’s errand, because a vast majority of the population of this Nation is informed only by corporate-controlled (and, thereby, government-controlled) mainstream media that have gone to great lengths to black out any message but that of the two (one) party status quo.

On Tuesday, another debate was broadcast. It wasn’t carried by FOX, MSNBC, CNN or any other major television news networks. It was, however, shown on Russian semi-state-run network RT, as well as C-Span and a handful of online news channels.

The event, sponsored by the Free and Equal Elections Foundation, included the Justice Party’s Rocky Anderson, the Constitution Party’s Virgil Goode and the Green Party’s Jill Stein (none of whom you’ve probably heard of) along with Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson. The debate was refreshing; and, while the candidates agreed on many of the issues of the zeitgeist, they certainly offered a clear collective rebuttal to the ideas of Romney and Obama.

Because most readers probably don’t know much of anything about the aforementioned third party candidates, this column will not pick apart the debate but will rather challenge readers to wake up from the Romney/Obama coma and watch the event below. There are no funny moments or personal attacks, but it looks a lot like what one may expect the Nation’s Founders had hoped for modern political discourse.

*The debate begins at 1:02:55.*
 

 

Johnson took the night. Though the Libertarian is on the ballots in 48 States, enough to secure an Electoral College victory, it is evident that he won’t win in the Presidential election. America is too lazy to digest anything but FOX/MSNBC mind mush and demand a clear alternative to Thing 1 or Thing 2.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • respectlife

    Anyone who votes 3rd party candidate this year may as well stay at home. You are giving away your vote to Obama. Wake up folks! Your nation is under siege and you need to vote smart and not with your head in the sand.. Period!!

    • sailor

      That is a BINGO!!!

    • allan cantlon

      I agree with you completely, this article seems to be an attempt to split the vote to get people whom would vote for Rommney to waste their vote on a third party, notice he doesn”t even name anyone, that way people are free to waste their vote on many different possibilities therefore insuring there is nothing gained from these votes!

      • Ted Crawford

        If one were to allow themselves to be seduced by this article, it could cause them to begin to, perhaps, begin to think other ridiculous thoughts! For example: It seems that it is clearly an attempt to lure voters away from either of the popular Candidates. However as you mentioned no other option was recommended, and certainly Romney would be the bigger loser, by a wide margin. Are we intended to vote for Gary Johnson, or Roseanne Barr, or Jimmy McMillan, or Ron Paul or, could it be that this is really, simply a backdoor attempt to get Obama re-elected?
        I mean if we are to become ridiculous, why stop at only one option!

    • Frank Kahn

      Actually, if you consider the people who vote third party instead of Republican as voters against Obama, then what you say is invalid. If they stay home then they are doing the same thing as if they vote third party. If voting third party gives the election to Obama, then not voting gives it to him also. Also, all third party voters would not necessarily be from the Romney side of the isle.

      The point of voting to make a statement about not wanting the same old rhetoric is a good one if it will help persuade others to look at other possibilities.

      I keep hearing people say that putting a constitutional president in office is a good thing, but now is not the time. WELL IF NOW IS NOT THE TIME, WHEN IS? If you always say this is wrong and it needs changed, then do nothing to change it, you are not doing anything good. You will never change anything by saying “lets wait till the time is better”.

      If you are a hunter that relies solely on hunting to provide food for your family, and you have only one bullet left for your gun what do you do? Your family is starving, you have a chance to kill a small deer, do you insist on waiting for a better target? Do you wait, hoping a big elk will come around, so you can have more meat? Remember, your family is starving, how long can you wait for a better time before it is too late? Be smart, dont let your family starve to death, kill the deer.

      That analogy is very close to what we are discussing here. If you wait for a better time to do something, it might be too late to fix the problem by the time you decide to act.

  • pete0097

    In 2008, I voted for the libertarian candidate as I lived in Maryland and knew that obama would prevail there in a substantial way due to the state demographics. I wanted to send a message to the RNC that they needed a candidate with some business experience as I did not feel that McCain had that experience. I now live in SC and will vote for Romney as he has a better chance of winning here. If obama wins, we are doomed. My wife even wants to move to Brazil if he does. If Romney wins, we have a chance. He appears to be a reasonable man that looks at consequences further down the line than the next quarter, as opposed to most bean counters.

    • don

      pete what you say don’t compute. your right none of them will talk about what must be done. an its really falls on US that they can’t. america has fallen to a point where no one wants to give up anything that just might cost them a freebe.a welfare state we have become an we love it so don’t you dare even talk about cutting anything thats we don’t have to work for. heaven forbid.

  • margaret johnson

    I am a US citizen having emigrated from another country. Americans do not realize how lucky they are and take everything for granted. Obama is an absolute NO NO. Take the blinkers off your eyes, if you haven’t already. He is NOT what he claims to be and if you cannot see through him you are just STUPID. He is against everything we in the US enjoy right now and is going to bring this great nation down. I am lucky, I have a country to go back to DO YOU? VOTE FOR ROMNEY, you may not be convinced but this is the right way to go.

    • sailor

      Yes indeed Margaret….I have Bonaire to go to as I always go to dive and enjoy the wonderful life in the Caribbean…but this poor excuse of a man must go. It is interesting as I was reading the newspaper in London where I read a comic piece where they were saying we were dead in the head for having voted for this idiot…and I did not vote for this moron….

  • Cribster

    We can only fix this from the ground up, not by trying to get a third party elected to president.

    With the MSM in the tank for liberals it would be next to impossible to get a true conservative into high office. We need to gradually take over the Republican party with Tea Party people and Libertarians like Rand Paul just as the Democratic party has been taken over by blacks, gays, Hispanics, code pink looney’s, etc.

    We don’t need a third party, we need to reclaim and strengthen the Republican party and make them true representatives of the people.

    • Tigerous

      Yup. Well said.

      • Stephan F.

        Cribster:

        You’re right on target. And to paraphrase Peter Schiff: “Libertarians don’t understand that the average voter will not pull the lever for the guy on the ballot with the ‘L’ letter. The only chance at winning and therefore the only logical alternative is to run as a Republican.”

        I agree completely. The Republican Party MUST BE CO-OPTED as this is the obvious place where the power resides. It will give us access to system, and will empower & enable us to change the system.

        What’s so difficult for Libertarians to figure out here? We need to coalesce around a candidate like Ron Paul or Johnson within the Republican party. Got it?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Stephan F., in case you hadn’t noticed the republican party has ALREADY been co-opted!!! Adding your support only multiplies the problem!!!

      • Stephan F.

        Oh, I see. So because the Republican party (supposedly) has already been co-opted, that means it’s impossible to be co-opted by Constitutionalists — who haven’t even tried yet due to lack of organization and to those like you who choose to go off on a 3rd party tangent thinking they can make a difference. Let me help you save about 30 years of wasting your time & efforts: 3rd party & write-in candidates don’t work. Trust me (but what the heck do I know).

    • http://twitter.com/EricJonesson19 Eric Jones (@EricJonesson19)

      Exept that no ONE party represents ALL the people

  • Motov

    You Republicrats just don’t get it,… Voting Democrat or Republican has produced this current mess. WE need new leadership, in the form of a 3rd party!!

    • bachelorwithsense

      SORRY, but You are the One who does NOT get it! In the CURRENT SYSTEM a Vote for a third Party is a WASTED VOTE!!

      • sailor

        Now that is another BINGO!!!!

      • Average Joe

        “In the CURRENT SYSTEM a Vote for a third Party is a WASTED VOTE!!”

        Actually, a vote for something other than your own ideals and convictions is a wasted vote.
        Voting against yourself and your own principles….is clearly…. stupid…taken to a whole new level.
        Voting for your own principles ( and those candidates that hold them)… regardless of what others may think, is a vote cast properly.

        “To thine own self be true” William Shakespeare

        Best Wishes,
        AJ

      • Patriot1776

        The key in the statement here is “in the current system”. This is the system that is in place now. Yes, there are better candidates available. But the truth in this moment is that we only have two to choose from, one American, one anti-American. The fix for this is to change the current system so that we can have a choice of good candidates with true morals and Constitutionally based philosophies. The time to change the system is after obama is removed from office. You may make yourself feel good, convincing yourself that you have taken the higher moral ground and stood for your beliefs. The truth is that in the current system, you have voted for obama if you do not vote for Romney.

        If you want to fix this country, let’s get obama out of office, then work to rebuild a system where we can get good candidates in office, not just settle for either voting our conscience regardles of the result, or voting for the lesser of two evils.

      • Average Joe

        Patriot1776,

        You seem to have issues in the field of reasoning…it elludes you.
        You say:
        “Yes, there are better candidates available. But the truth in this moment is that we only have two to choose from, one American, one anti-American. ”

        Which is it?
        If i fact, there are better candidates….why don’t we have the choice to vote for them? Why aren’t you voting…for them? Hmmm? Therein lies the rub…you are telling us that there ARE better candidates, but that you choose not to vote for them, but rather for…..someone else that is LESSER. You seem to have conflicted reasoning skills.

        You say:
        “The fix for this is to change the current system so that we can have a choice of good candidates with true morals and Constitutionally based philosophies. ”

        The way to change the system….is to change the way we vote…d’oh…no rocket science required here.
        The only question is,When should we change the system? Should we wait until 2016…maybe another 20-40 years?
        I believe the answer to that question is also quite simple….the sooner , the better…AKA…NOW!

        You say:
        “You may make yourself feel good, convincing yourself that you have taken the higher moral ground and stood for your beliefs. ”

        I do. I respect myself enough not to disregard my beliefs, morals and principles, to vote for anyone or anything that is in conflict with those values.

        Unlike you, I do not need to lie to myself to justify my actions. I can look myself in the eye and say, I voted FOR my candidte of choice because I believed in him. You on the other hand are simply voting against..”the othe guy”. You don’t actually stand behind Romney or his views….you simply don’t want Obama to be re-elected ( as you’ve made obvious in your posts). You are either lying to yourself…or you truly have no principles and just “go with the flow”.

        The reason that 3rd party candidates can’t win?….because foolish people like you keep repeating the same old mantra year after year, while refusing to take a stand in your own best interest and vote for anyone other than the main two parties…
        It is never ,”let’s fix it now”…..it’s always, “Just vote for the lesser evil… this time and we’ll get organized for next time around”. There may not be a next time…or does that possibilty elude you as well?
        Folks like you aren’t part of the problem……..you ARE the problem.

        Please don’t try to convince me with more flawed reasoning….. I ain’t buying it.

        Best Wishes,
        AJ

  • Kim

    Wrong… a third party vote the way this system is set up…is a wasted vote.
    If you can’t pick between these two totally different choices as candidates by now….
    Then there is a problem and it’s yours to own.
    There were clear choices the last time….but folks voted on emotions and not information.

    Your article is the same. It insights the “same”…. as the so called lame, blind and selfish inclined press are doing to play politics with the peoples mind, heart and vote.
    To make these two different individuals look as if their same person… as Ronald Reagen would quietly say..”Well”…. sorry their records show a great differences in choice, divides, policies and integrity.

    There only person I trust in… and what we need to put back in or to stand up for is God.
    In God…I only trust all …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOURiyy_6XA

    Kim,
    Ohio,
    Not being a fool

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    This is an excellent article. I did follow its’ advice and voted early in my state for Gary Johnson. Sure, this man won’t win but it’s a message along with step in the right direction. BTW, Obama has already won, we all have to accept it. If you look at internal polls it shows that. Thanks.
    P.S. To Flops, get a life will ya!?!

    • http://personalliberty Barbara

      This is nothing more than assisting Obama win the election. A third party at this stage of the game is a idiotic move. You are thinking only of yourself. If you truly care about the country to would choose a time to rebel when it’s not at the expense of allows this lying, manipulative, deceptive, phony become the president again to completely destroy our country. Then, not only can you forget about a third party forget about democracy. We will surely be living under a dictator.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Barbara,Chamiuel,and Dave:
        You say that “i’m only tinking of myself plus way to go, i showed them”. Well, In some ways, i did “show” them. That’s it’s time to vote for the best candidate/party and not go along with the main line. Next, its’ true as it says in the Bible, people need to think of others and their neighbors. Yet, there’s a time to think of others and there’s a time to think for/about yourself with interests. Thus, that’s what i did. Next, let me ask you people something. What’s the difference between Obama and Romneystein,HONESTLY!?! Did you’ll think Romneystein will be better!?! (LOL)!!! That man will get our nation into W.W.III and have our econ. become a corporate monopolistic state that will ruin our environment. Anyway, as stated in my first post, the election is already set. The Incumbent will be re-elected by, i believe, comfortable margin. Later on!!

      • http://liberty Tony

        Correction: Thinking, not tinking. Thanks!!

    • chamuiel

      Sure it is a message Tony. A message that you support losers. Obama has already written you off. You almost made the grade as one of his useful idiots.

    • http://Yahoo Dave

      Way too go Tony, I guess you showed them. Like Obama really cares that you voted for a third party. Wait a moment, I bet he is elated at your reasoning, giving a vote for a third party is a vote for him. I just hope you remember your (I’ll show you vote) in four years because people like you will be responsible for the condition of this great country, What is left of it with Obama running it. I don’t disagree with any of you in policy but to vote for a person that’s not going to win just to make a point is unconscionable. Do you really want four more years of Obama? If those of you thinking of voteing for a third party candidate please think of the consequences of your vote, four more years of Obama! Really?

    • carrottop

      “Sure, this man won’t win but it’s a message along with step in the right direction. BTW, Obama has already won”

      So, Tony…….exactly what was the message you sent by casting your vote for Gary Johnston and how is this a step in the right direction? It sounds to me like your “fatalist” attitude convinced you to throw away your vote by voting for a sure bet looser. Do you think that action is going to make your voice be heard as anything but stupid? Your action has only served to prove to the Liberals that there are conservatives willing to help them continue their agenda. You definitely did not think this one through.

      • Average Joe

        carrottop,
        I believe that you are a few nutrients short of a healthy grow…..lay off the party Kool-aide.

    • Dale left coast

      As you walk off the Fiscal Cliff . . . maybe Gary will walk with you . . .
      Voting for someone that has ZERO CHANCE of winning is Gross Stooooopidity . . . . but you are not alone . . . almost half the population is in your corner in stooooopid-town USA 1 ! !

      • http://simianmenace.wordpress.com ericthered69

        Dale, you are kind of a douchebag.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      So Tony you wasted your vote and assured obozo a win and that is smart? I’m glad I’m not that smart, will vote for Romney/Ryan and against satans son, obozo-clown-in-cheif and a hater of the Real God of Creation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    We have just heard the tip of the iceberg with regard to foreign policy. The destruction of our relations with the rest of the world, thanks to the ayatollah barack hussein (I wish I could use my middle name)(muslim) obama has been so effective that it cannot be rectified in the next 20 years. Obama has sucked people in with his forked tongue and most especially the uneducated, food stamp lower class people… he has got them in his pocket. In 4 years these people have discovered that it is comfortable to be permanently on the government tit and the ayatollah barack wants to keep them there.

  • Roger Drews

    A third party voye is just another vote for more debt, more taxes, more job losses and is simply suicide. Vote FOR Romney, at least the Supreme Court needs 2 more dconservatives, not communists. Only morons support third party suicide.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Byrrni Brenda Wilson

    While the lofty idealism of voting for a third party candidate might satisfy your conscience, the sad fact is, a vote for a third party translates into a vote for continuing the current Administration. That, I cannot do, even though the current voting situation isn’t necessarily what I would have favored.

  • Flops

    The Jews own most of the mainstream media and they own Capitol Hill. So do not expect anyone critical of the outlaw state of Israel to be televised in any debate.

    • http://Yahoo Merriel

      That is the perfect name for you!! You are a racist!! The Bible says,” I will bless them that bless thee: and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.’ Genesis 12:3 (KJV)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1502569282 Barry Hackney

        Flops merely stated a well known fact. You should not quote the Bible if you are so ignorant of it that you would attempt to equate the Christ-hating Ashkenazim of so-called “Israel” with Abraham. A vote for Obamney is a vote for war-mongering, freedom-crushing Zio-bankers and their stooges in the CFR.

    • chamuiel

      Flops, would you say the same thing about the Muslims?

      • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

        Do you beleive in the Ist Amendmendment or in the HHS madate?
        Are you for or against religious Freedom?
        Vote ofr Obama and her grey emminence Katheleen Sebellius if you surrport their religious persecution.
        Vote for Romney if you oppose their religious persecution.
        Joann Flanagan
        Lewiston,NY

  • Neal Browne

    The nation was founded on ideals. Now it’s run by pragmatism. Yes, I wish there were viable alternatives to the two main guys who could truly win, but in a real world, it is unfortunately about practical compromise. We will get one of the two so-sos. It won’t be anywhere near perfect, but I predict one will be slightly less destructive than the other. Yes, the idea of third party candidates is decidedly refreshing and a great part of America, but in the end, it will either be Romney or Obama. When the dust settles, moving a couple of inches is light years from ideal, but measurably better than not at all.

  • Patriot II

    If all of you are NOT absolutley sure Romney lies like Obama does, you shoud cast your vote for Romney. If you ARE absolutley sure he lies like Obama, you should cast your vote for Romney as well. Under NO Circumstances is Voting for Obama acceptable.\
    Unless you ar are ignorant. There are only two types of people who vote for Obama, The first are people like him who want to see the success of a One Word Governemnt by Destroying the USA, or …………………….People who are Ignorant to that Fact.

    • http://Yahoo Merriel

      I totally disagree with this writer. I believe that NO VOTE or a vote for a third party, is a vote for 4 more years of our Loser-in-Chief. Vote Romney/Ryan 2012

      • bachelorwithsense

        Merriel: You obviously did NOT understand what Patriot II said. Reworded he said VOTE for Romney as a Vote for Obama is proof that you are ignorant! I agree with what Patriot II stated. LOL. Voting for Obama is IGNORANT. Voting for a third Party Candidate is also IGNORANT because it takes away a Vote for Romney AND serves NO Purpose! This article writer forgets that ONE of the MAIN purposes of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is to PROVIDE an Army and Navy!! There is NOTHING in the Constitution that authorizes taking MONEY from MY POCKET to Give to OTHER PEOPLE regardless of how destitute they are!! A STRONG America is a WELL ARMED America. Decreasing our Military makes a WEAKER America!! AMERICA has only TWICE (Pearl Harbor AND the World Trade Centers) been Attacked and those attackers learned WHY they should NOT attack America, BECAUSE we are Strong. (The Japanese lost AND Osama Bin Ladin is DEAD).

      • Patriot II

        Merriel; Read it again

    • chamuiel

      A one word Government? How is that possible?

      • Patriot II

        Chamuiel; lol! thanks for the Spell check, but actually for me a “One Word” Government
        is True….that one Word is: “God”

    • Ed Mack

      A lot of you folks are right. I’m not sure of Rommney BUT we are sure of Obama and we know that we can’t endure another 4 years of him. He has divided this country well beyond it’s limit. If you vote for a third party you’re voting for Obama again. Never in my 64 years of voting have I seen a more arrogant, liar, with as much disdain for our country as Obama. I understood what kind of a man he was when his wife said in all her life she had never been proud of this country until now(Obamas’ nomination night). What kind of a man would marry a woman with this attitude. They act like King and Queen rather than the President and First Lady. I think we found out that thy’re not as good as most of the rest of us of ANY color and he is only half black who has no respect for his mother but only when he tells of his upbringing because she happens to be white. Go ahead tell me who is racist. He just has NO idea of economics. We have had NO budget the last 4 years although it is the law to have one by when, May 1st. He couldn’t make one that EVEN his own party would pass- 0 to 97 as I recall one he tried. His foreign policies have been sooo bad as he proved in this last debacle which only enhanced his lieing to larger heights. NO, he is NOT one I would vote for.

    • http://Facebook Rosemary Roy

      You are so right. I’m 77, and have known since I was in my 40′s that their were people who wanted world government. There was a discussion on tv about it. It was said—the only country who wouldn’t go along with it would be the USA. It was said this country would have to be brought down to other countries before it could happen. OBUMA has started that ball rolling with the 6 trillion debt we can only pay the interest on. If he’s voted in again he will secure his dream of a socialistic country. I feel so sad for the younger generation who will never know how great it was, growing up in the 40′s—50′s–and early 60′s. To see our flag, which represented my great country, come down the street in a parade or see it flying in a stadium would give one pride just seeing it wave.

  • Gregg

    I wish everyone would follow the conservative movement of Jim DeMint. He is doing it right! Demint is supporting the REAL conservative candidates in every state in order to get control of congress. Support DeMint’s movement and we can get on track again.

  • Corkey

    The gist of the article is that Romney is the same as Obama. The author is correct. Stop trying to convince yourself that “this time it will be different” because it won’t.

    • Dale left coast

      The author is not correct . . . he is another libertarian loon . . . anyone who thinks Romney will follow in the footsteps of the marxist/socialist in the WH today is smokin something illegal . . .

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1502569282 Barry Hackney

        Apparently, you have missed something. As long as grass roots Americans keep voting for Reflubs because they are the lesser of 2 evils, the globalist elite of the party will keep handing us big government candidates like the Bush syndicate, McNasty, and Romney. They take us for granted just as the Dems take the black vote for granted, but deliver nothing but more abuse. A candidate must EARN my vote. If you have to tell me how rancid the opponent is in order to convince me to vote for your candidate, I will not be convinced. Any actual differences between O & Romney are matters of style, not substance. Both are the enemies of freedom and Constitutional government, and they represent America’s problems-not solutions. I voted for independents 3x instead of voting for the Bush scum, and have never had a moment of regret!
        http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.conspirazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/march-of-tyranny-far-right.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.conspirazzi.com/tag/ben-garrison/&h=461&w=600&sz=132&tbnid=HqFjZqX0btO34M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=117&zoom=1&usg=__Dr3l-1oOpo3dOJ4rTkkMq8OliH4=&docid=FQ6VXPdAwme0dM&sa=X&ei=jtGKUMGwOoOy2wWr5IGQCA&ved=0CD8Q9QEwBQ&dur=3643

      • Motov

        Sounds like you got your stuff together,… I’m with you, voting for the two big parties and expecting improvement, like smaller government that respects the constitution is something that will never happen. If anyone wants real change you must think outside the box and try something else,..like a third party!!!

      • Mike

        I also voted for Ross Perot. However, there was not enough people to act and take over the R party. That is what we must do now. Not split the vote. Kick them out from the inside. A vote for a 3rd party is like stomping your feet and saying you paid for a ticket to the other side of the river and will not give up your seat on the boat. Even though the ship is sinking. If you cannot see the benefit, I feel sorry for you. Vote for whoever you want but understand the ramifications.

    • http://Facebook Rosemary Roy

      Well Corky, I know what OBUMA has done to my country the past four year. Personally, I don’t think the greatest genius in world could straighten out the mess Obuma has put us in. He has borrowed more money than all our presidents put together. We can only pay back the interest on it. What a legacy for our young people to try and straighten out. I can’t even imagine what that fool could do in 4 more years. He’s already handed the keys to China. So I’ll take my chances and see what someone else can do. It can’t be any worse than what OBUMA has done.

    • Dusty

      Yes, the author is correct on the “they’re both liberals” point. But a vote for a 3rd party won’t change either candidate. For sure though, if conservatives vote for a 3rd party candidate we’re absolutely assured another 4 years of blackbarry’s Caligula-like behaviors; well if this country survives another 4 years. His advice to vote 3rd party is about as good an idea as would be opening the sea cocks on the Titanic to let out the water coming in through the gash. It’d just assure that we go down that much faster.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        If we don’t vote 3rd party, we’re assured of the continuation of all of the unconstitutional policies, that actually matter.

        I can’t believe how so many people are fighting for evil… We’ve gone insane…

        – Smoov

      • http://awkingsley.wordpress.com awkingsley

        Where does anyone get the idea that Romney will be less dictatorial than Obama? Have you forgotten what happened at the RNC so quickly? Romney is one of the most inflexible people we could elect. If Romney wins this election, it will be another 16 years or more before we are likely to get a Conservative president. Both Romney and Obama report to the same New World Order Globalist handlers. Trying to pretend otherwise doesn’t bring truth to our dreams. If Romney doesn’t win this election, then we are likely to be able to elect a Conservative to preside over what is left of our country in 2016. However, Romney, the admitted Globalist, will not create a country this has any fewer problems than Obama has given. They both serve the same masters and have the same agenda. It is time for realistic appraisals, not worn out dreams that never manifest anything but more abuse and pain.

  • Matt N

    The problem with all 3rd party candidates is the lack of faith in their ability to win an election. The solution is simple but, as in most things simple, hard: a ground-up approach is the only way to build a viable 3rd party. Local politics first, then State and lastly National elections. Ross Perot taught conservatives to not waste their vote, Ralph Nader did the same in Florida in 2000 for liberals.

    I would love to see a third party in the US. However, the likelihood of building one in today’s MSM environment is poor. Even with the internet and other avenues to reach potential voters, the need to overcome the “common sense” of a vote being wasted on a 3rd party is very high.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest John Stohr

      I voted for Ross Perot, wanting to show my objection to both Clinton and Bush. Perot received about 18 % of the vote but was a throw-away vote from me. Perot was a businessman who pushed to BALANCE THE BUDGET. Clinton and Bush both laughed and said it could’t be done. Clinton won the election but pushed by bi-partisons, the budget was balanced–in spite of Clinton. From our experience of the last four years, we know Obama must GO! We need every vote for Romney to get Obama out of the WH. It’s like taking baby steps but we have to do it. Right now, don’t throw your vote away for a 3rd party. We need to get Obama out of the White House!!!

      • kkflash

        I vbted for Perot and I voted for Ron Paul when he was a Libertarian, and look what that got us. Let’s dump Obama first, then worry about building a vialble 3rd party for 2016.

  • James P

    Are you nuts? A third party vote for Ross Perot, was the reason Bill Clinton became president. A third party vote will assure another 4 destructive years of Obama. He already has unfettered advantage to return to office. While Romney was not my favorite for the Republicans, he is by far a better choice than any of the others. I am tired of being accused of being a racist because I object to Obama’s socialistic policies. I will object to socialistic policies of anyone in the White House. I am often asked about Romney being a Mormon. (Look what we have now! is he a Christian or Moslem? I say the latter.) I am not voting for a pastor. I have one. I am voting for a business man who has the knowhow to turn our nation around economically.

  • Raymond

    A choice between the lesser of two evils? I don’t agree. Is government the problem? Of course it is, regardless of which major party is in control. Going back to an America I once knew will be nearly impossible and will take decades of consistent effort to recapture the classrooms and fundamentally change America’s education system to educate new generations of what Constitutional government of, by and for the people was supposed to mean.

  • Gregg

    I agree. However, in this election, a vote for a third party candidate is 2 votes for Obama! One away from the GOP and another for the liberal. DON’T DO IT! There will be future elections when we are not in such peril to start in the right direction.

  • richard

    A third Party vote in this election is a wasted vote.Im skeptical of both candidates,but Bama has a Presidential record worth NOT voting for..

  • http://Yahoo.com Abby

    At this time, voting for a third party will ensure an Obama win. We cannot endure another term with the current incumbent. And it has nothing to do with racism (the Democratic card). In the past 4 years, America has been torn apart, races have been pit one against the other, hard working individuals have been stripped of their earnings, too many individuals have been placed under the government controls through handouts, false entitlements (not including true entitlements such as military pay, retirement for government workers, social security, etc.).
    Methods need to be found to ease unemployment through less red tape and regulations, and created jobs should not be at the expense of the people (ie, more government jobs, takeover of automobile industries (yes, we — you and I — are paying for this), green energy.
    Yes we must strive for better control of our enviornment but done prudently, not as it is being done now.
    After this election, maybe there should be a third party — onefor and by the people — instead of the two party system. BUT, not at this time or rest assured a thrid party vote today will ensure retention of the current administration and President. We cannot be lulled into complete complacency at this point.

    • sailor

      If I am a man in business and need a CEO and an Economist to guide my path to progress and employ a lot of Americans to help our Nation grow. Who do you think it has the skills and qualification to hold those two positions?

      Lawyers? oh please; congress is jam packed with these assholes who can’t even balance their own check books but are great at printing new laws that are never enforced by the Judicial system.

    • http://Facebook Rosemary Roy

      Well Done with intelligence Abby. I’m 77and no longer understand the people in this country. Maybe because I grew up in that era that loved their country deeply and new what our flag stood for. A time when we pledged allegiance to our flag and said the lords prayer at the beginning of every day in school.

  • Fedup

    Sam, shut the hell up until after we beat Obama.

    • Gregg

      Perfect! I couldn’t have said it better myself!

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Get rid of Marxist Obama first, then get Big Establishment Romney under control.

    • http://yahoo. hangman

      It is so sad that mental midgets see Romneys success not as something to admire, but to be jealous off. Iff the man was succesfull , being honest, good for him. Only those who scratch their heads and their butt at the same time, and complain that the man is rich, and that that is wrong, are suffering fron some form of mental illness. Obomit is not poor, either, and has made his money dishonestly. Why not attack him instead?

      • Mike

        Mental midgets? Seems you are a few bricks short yourself. You think everyone else is wrong but you? You sound like a liberal. I have no problem with your vote. Just keep in mind the impact it may have if Barry gets re-elected. There will probably not be a USA for you to cast your vote for the next time. Romney is not ideal, but I am 100% sure you do not know squat about him or what he will do. You just spew your own RP koolaid talking points.
        If as some people think, others will fall back asleep and not keep pushing out the socialists who have taken over if Romney wins. It is up to YOU to keep all of us focused on restoring the Constitution. I hope we still have a country where we can do that

      • Dusty

        Hangman, those among us who are capable of thinking beyond the memes aren’t “jealous” of romneyama. We’re contemptuous of him. He’s far to the left of JFK and JFK was hardly a conservative. He’s even said he’d keep some of obamascare, blackbarry & the demoncrap’s pet project. He’s on record of being anti-2nd amendment, pro-abortion and pro-homo marriage prior to the run for president, when he started mouthing conservative values in conflict with his long-standing record.

        Do yourself a favor. Go online and find a site called “The Political Compass” Take their little quiz. You’re going to be surprised where you come out. I’m smack dab in the center and slightly above the line. In the left-biased nation in which we now live, I’m considered a “hard-core conservative”. It isn’t that I am a “hard-core conservative”. It is just that the slow, steady erosion of our nation’s principles by the left has moved the putative “center” so far to the left that “left” is sold to us a “center”, the commie/loony left as “moderate” and the actual centrists are decried as “nazis” (which was actually a political system of the left; the “national SOCIALIST” party). BRRAAACKK is the US version of “idi amin”, a dictator of mixed political persuasions, none of which are good for the people here.

  • Harold Olsen

    The supposed conservative, Mitt Romney is no more of a conservative than Obama. Romney pretends to be a conservative, as McCain did 4 years ago, in order to get elected and hope that conservatives will by his load of crap. A few months ago, even Obama claimed to be a conservative. I doubt that any intelligent person believed it. I hate Obama and would never vote fore him. Romney is little more than an Obama clone. I’ve been hoping he’d give me a reason to vote fore him. He had until I received my ballot in the mail, which I got yesterday, to give me a reason to vote for him. He didn’t.

    • Patriot II

      HAROLD, So in other words you would perfer that Obama be re elected?

    • sailor

      Why don’t you take a waltz to memory lane and observe the acts of hitler…Omagot is doing exactly the same thing..imagine that…from a moron who would not have a second of life under the rule of hitler just because he is Africano

    • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

      Just ask yourself:Am I for religious persecution or against it?
      Then vote for Obama is you’re for religious persecution since he is conspiring to start one
      under the aegus of the the Department Of Health And Human Services by means of the HHS Mandate which plots to force clergy to subsidise abortion,perversian and mutilation with church funds.
      On the other hand if you oppose religious persecution vote for Romney since he opposes Obamacare.
      Just ask yourself;How much respect does someone who dispises the Ist Amendment have for the Thirteenth Amendment?
      Joann Flanagan
      lewiston,NY

      • Dusty

        barry soetoero isn’t in favor of religious persecution. After all, obamascare doesn’t apply to muzzies. They get a free pass as it doesn’t apply to them. He’s only against religious persecution of the Jewish-derived faiths; Judaism, Catholicism, Christianity, Mormonism, etc. So that isn’t “religious persecution” in his mind. It is simply koran-demanded “dhimmitude” of lesser faiths than his. See? (sarcasm/off)

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Even a clone will not turn out completely identical to its original. No one but no one can replicate the same conditions that created the original. So Romney is not a version of O.
      Romney may even surprise all of us by how he turns out as President.

      Know for a fact that this country worked itself into a two party system. Why do you think we have this constant deception of Democrats and Leftists pretending to be Republicans? When they can’t get their ideology passed one way they pretend to be something else? The populace is always left to live the consequences of this power struggle.

      I will be sarcastic for the moment.
      We have been corralled very effectually so there are two scenarios left to us, to go into the barn pens like good little sheep and be in the safety of the pen or we can bolt and take our chances that we can survive the predators.
      Neither one is a pleasant anticipation. I console myself by reading Daniel and reminding myself that at times God permits the basest of men( lowlifes) to rule over us.

    • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

      Are you for religious persecution or are you against it?
      Vote ofr Obama if you’re for religious persecution since he wants to start one.
      Vote for Romney if you’re against religious persecution since he doesn’t want to start on.
      Joann Flanagan
      lewiston,NY

  • Joe H

    I still say that goofball romney is the only one that has a chance in hell of beating Obambam and if Obambam gets in for another term, we are all in a world of hurt. He might just break it so bad it cant be fixed!

    • Vicki

      The one good thing about Obama is that he had no patience and drove too fast, thus waking up a bunch of people who had been lulled to sleep. If Romney wins we could very easily see them fall asleep again and then what will stop the progressives from finishing their 100 year plan?

      • Patriot II

        Vickil; I can see you point, so you want to re elect Obama?

      • sailor

        You called those dumb ass liberals “progressive?” oh please….spare me the [expletive deleted]

      • vicki

        Patriot II says:
        “Vickil; I can see you point, so you want to re elect Obama?”

        No. I will vote principle. Which means I will not be voting for obama nor Obama with an R. Since I live in California my vote will not have any effect anyway :( .

      • Motov

        So we choose between Obozo and Obozo-lite?
        No thanks,… Rather see Johnson get in. Voting in Obozo-lite(Romney) will be a return to the Shrub years, which will perpetuate another democrat down the road.
        TIME to break this stupid cycle by going with another real choice,… Johnson!!
        Insanity is when you do the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
        And you call us third partiers “Idiots”?? You nominated the most Liberal “RINO” And expect the Ron Paul supporters to blindly follow? Sorry we are way too attached to a document called the Constitution,..Maybe you should read it

      • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

        Nothing like starting a religious persecution to “wake people up”.
        Let’s hope it wakes up some advocates of the Ist amendment!
        Joann Flanagan
        Lewiston,NY

    • al k

      Obama is doing exactly what he was appointed to do, we don’t elect these Illuminati bloodline presidents, they are appointed, all the campaigning is a pawn to make us think we elected him, how come all presidents are from one of the 13 family blood lines of the Illuminati? we need to get rid of all incumbent politicians to start with then eliminate all Illuminati bloodlines from our government.

      • http://yahoo fred frye

        Yep, with all the voter fraud,the fact that the vote will be counted by a company in Spain, the “election” is just staged,like they did in USSR for many years..Obomney attended the Bilderberg meeting this year,and was probably made the appointee then,as did the current imposter.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      The ONLY reason Romney, who like Obama *became the presidential candidate due to election fraud – showing how corrupt both are and that they are ‘owned’ – is because of people like you who think the only way to vote is either democratic party or republican party as you have been taught. Yes, taught.

      It is always easier to ‘drive’ cattle in the direction you want them to go when you narrow the avenues through where they can travel. Basically it is MUCH easier to CONTROL two parties, put your people into them, then it is to control multiple parties.

      You, and those voting like you, are the problem. Watch the third party candidates and pick one who stand meets most what you want in a president. Don’t vote mainstream – both of those candidates were ‘chosen” and NOT by God.

      *The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form?

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      I will never vote for Romney. I will never vote for Obama. they were PUT INTO place through election fraud.

      Why are all of you not screaming for prosecutions for the election fraud that has been, and still is being committed now in 2012?

      DEMAND low tech voting – that IS up to each state, not the federal government. Read your state constitution so that you know your state rights. We have NO accountability for the machine votes, nor do we have accountability for the count of OUR votes done in a foreign nation.

      And the UN group. Leave OUR country. We have a legitimate government and are NOT under your rule even though this current jerkbite “gave” the UN authority over the USA. “Gave” the UN authority over the US Military (along with Panetta and Gen Dempsey) which NO ONE serving within the three branches of OUR legitimate government has that power. But it does qualify as TREASON. Those three need to be arrested and held for prosecution.

    • bud

      A vote for the libertarian candidate is a vote for Obozo and takes a win away from the conservative Romney

      • Dusty

        It is hard to believe that, in this day and time, anybody is STILL stupid enough to vote for a 3rd party candidate in a closely-contested election. All you’re assuring yourself is a loss either way but for sure, the loss one way will be worse than the other. If you haven’t learned in the last 4 years that we cannot, under ANY circumstances, afford another 4 years of the lyin’ thing, then you’re simply dumber than dirt. If you have any belief that anybody will actually care about your protest vote other than to loathe you for putting blackbarry back in office, then you just reaffirmed what I just wrote. As I told a friend of mine who stupidly continues to vote for ~Lash~ Larue in every election, “Thanks for giving us obama”. He also helped to give us the billy ‘n hilly show. He still hasn’t learned.

        To you 3rd party voters in both the last election & this one, “thanks for giving us the muslim dictator & destroying what was left of our country”. As bad as romneyama is, he’s better than 0′bramna.

      • kimbercarrier

        Romney, Conservative oh please. You people will buy anything. Romney or Obama will just give us more of what we’ve had already. All those that think a Romney win will change the course of this country are delusional. At best he will just buy us a little more time to get ready for the coming economic collapse.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      A third party vote is a vote for obozo, has happened in the past and idiots are still doing what hasn’t worked in the past, I guess some don’t learn from the past?

    • Jan Adele

      YOU’RE RIGHT JOE. WE NEED TO GET RID OF OBAMA RIGHT NOW OR WE WON’T HAVE A COUNTRY TO FIGHT FOR. WE HAVE TO PUT OUR AGENDA ASIDE FOR NOW AND CONCENTRATE ON GETTING THAT POISON OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON “LIBERTY”. IF OBAMA STAYS, WE WON’T HAVE ANY LIBERTY LEFT TO DEFEND. WE ALL HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER FOR OUR COUNTRY’S SAKE. WE HAVE TO VOTE THE REPUBLICAN TICKET SO WE CAN SURVIVE AS A FREE COUNTRY.

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