BOTH statements were truthful. romney said “WE own the government” because he’s one of them! obumass said “we belong to the government” because THEY think that we DO!!!

I think she means Cain.

Oooooooohhhhhhh! That never occurred to me. I still don’t understand.

The combination of DWS and BHO.are nothjing more than a crap recycling system.

Is that like Bush and Rove working at the local Roter Rooter service? Now that was the sewer pits!

So who exactly is the current Commander in Chief? Who has increased the number of troops in Afghanistan? Who is using executive orders to assasinate terrorist leaders by drones (which just may not be appreciated by the terrorist groups and may cause them to destroy US conselates and murder US embassadors)? Who has sent US troups into Jordan and North Africa? The democrats may rail against wars, yet they continue to support them with our troups and our tax dollars.

Absolutely! There is little excuse for Democrat wars/ foreign actions anymore than the Republican ones. Now killing terrorists would mostly be a good thing as long as the targets are properly vetted. One mistake brings the wrath of the world down on us. The trick is to make sure these actions don’t come back and bite us. Neither party has done a very good job of thinking out the consequences. Whether in Iraq or Libya. Whether with the Patriot Act or NDAA.

You’re onto something, Patriot1776!!! They (the parties) SAY different things BUT they DO the SAME things!!!

There is just no way to educate you is there. You are hopeless, just like the people you helped elect last time….

I know it is impossible but wake up eddie, listen to what is important. If everything your leaders say is a lie then nothing they do is good. She lied this time, she lied about the booing at the convention. She lied about them removing God from their platform on purpose. SO IN CONCLUSION, NOTHING THEY SAY CAN BE BELIEVED BECAUSE THEY LIE TOO MUCH.

Oh please Kublai Kahn stop pretending Republicans don’t lie. They also have lying on speed dial so stop defending them! Now go back to sleep you sheeple of convenience.

The spelling of the Mongolian emperor was KHAN Kublai Khan not Kahn. If by misspelling it you were referring to a post of mine then this is my response. I have in no way said that Republicans dont lie. Nor would I support their lies. I also find it repulsive for people like you to simply try and change the subject by saying “well so and so did this so you are wrong”. A Republican lying does not lessen or change the fact that a Democrat lied. The reasons for the lies is what is most important. However, in the case of this blog’s topic, this particular lie is so blatant and stupidly contrived that it is worth discussing.

And in the pocket you’ll find a wad of Bill’s.

I do hope Vigilent is talking about money. I do not know how long a “wad” of Bill’s will stay fresh.

Grimaldi here again,er… Adolph….. Maybe you will agree she would have probably been a better stand in for Monica Lewinski… Seems she got a little “Bill Clinton” on her word play !!!! Oh crap, I forgot, you are a demorat. Long live Dick Cheney( and my favorite) President George W. Bush. Heil and by the way, her opinion is ONLY an opinion. It was not a FACT. Admit it, The government(with Obama’s blessing) LIED on purpose. That is why the Rice lady said more than a week later it was in response to some jerks film about Islam. TOTAL FABRICATION

Yeah, right…. Like Fort Hood was “workplace violence”.

Actually, your two “examples don’t work either. If someone says that “x” is going to happen tomorrow then, whether or not the predicted event transpires, there are several possibilities: (i) he/she knows otherwise and is deliberately lying and promoting a falsehood for some personal benefit(probably the instant case); (ii) he/she is guessing in the absence of known fact, whether correctly or incorrectly which (evidences questionable judgement) but is not necessarily “false”; he/she is making a prediction based on the best information available which (may be right or wrong but) is not “false”; or, he/she is correct.

WRT the female Pinnochio, unless you are on its staff, it’s unlikely whether you actually know what “facts” she may or may not have known at the time of any given statement so the only thing you’re really saying is that you personally choose to give her the benefit of the doubt. Given her known association with habitual liars, including the Muslim Marxist Kenyan in the White House, and her recent personal demonstrable history of lying, there are those among us who do not choose to do so. Our position may best be summarized by that old saying which begins “fool me once, shame on you”. You can complete it for yourself.

For one thing, opinions should not be given in a situation such as the attack on an American Embassy especially when lives have been lost. If the Administration did not have all the facts then they should have said so instead of spouting off some BS about a film upsetting the Arab world and then apologizing at the UN for it!

Only a moron would try defending these democRATS. Seems alot of democRATS are out doing just that.

Considering all the moronic statement being made here ME then you could be correct. We’ll have to assume they are mostly from the Republican side of the sewer pond. This administration was indeed a johnny come lately on the Benghazi attack and should have done a better job of keeping up on it. Debbie isn’t disputing that and was only going with the information she had at the time. T. Murphy still has no clue on the rest of those protests that happened in the other countries. They WERE a direct result of that video and was admitted by all countries involved. Apparently Republicans also use fuzzy and false accusations to gain credibility for their side. Maybe Republicans think two wrongs make a right and are just as worthless.

eddie – You have continued with the lie that I predict things happening on certain days. I HAVE NOT. YOU ARE LYING, and you know you are lying. You prove yourself a liar.

However, when nefarious plans are made public, it is for the purpose of exposing, and therefore, thwarting those plans. If we know they are false flags, they won’t work. The whole purpose of warnings are to make sure it doesn’t happen. I have never, personally, made a prediction, and I do not claim to have that ability.

For some reason, eddie, you are on a mission to discredit me. It’s good to know that you find me important enough to be a threat to your Leftist lies.

You said it Kate 8 and Jeff H backed you up. You then went into denial you ever said it. Nice try! That is a right wing lie not a “leftist lie” I shouldn’t have to repeat this but apparently you want to pull our legs again. You said this information came from BELIEVE IT OR NOT site. Will you deny that too. The issue was at the NATO meeting in Chicago this summer and you agreed with the article. That Israel agents were out to assassinate Obama in Chicago. Its funny how these plots never happen but you are always privy to that information and believe these conspiracy threads. I’m just saying enough of this nonsense that you keep pushing to stir the pot!

What makes the statements “false” is that they knew the information might not be correct. They were functioning on assumptions and knowingly made reports based upon speculation. Manslaughter is based on the notion that you might not have set out to kill someone, but you knew that your actions could result in someone’s death. You are therefore guilty. Using the same principle, you may not have set out to deceive with “false” information, but you knew that giving a report before obtaining the facts could result in a false report. That makes them guilty of willful deception.

How about all these so-called representatives of the people just keep their mouths shut until they know the real facts. It’s simple; We don’t know exactly what happened, we are trying to find out, and when we do, we will let the American people know.
Really simple. But not these jerks. Let’s tell the American people anything, they will never know or care if it’s true or not. Amazing that America has come to this.

Here’s the thing, this administration is CLAIMING that they THOUGHT this was a political demonstration related to the video! Considering the actual circumstances, that in itself HAD to be a lie! NO WAY this could be misconstrued by ANYONE as a demonstration. It was a well organized attack! This administration got caught LYING!!! Now they’re shuffling the facts to say that they were misinformed! Its ALL a LIE!

eddie47d, I agree with Kate8! When their secret plans get divulged, they often change their plans!!! Wouldn’t you do the same if it were you?!? The best we can hope for is to foil their plans at every opportunity!!! If nothing happens, it means we’ve succeeded!!!

(Debbie isn’t disputing that and was only going with the information she had at the time.)

So it’s ok for the demodummies to use this excuse but the republitards cant? Bush was going with the information he had at the time too! Of course months went by and when there were no WMD’s found the demodummies lambasted Bush calling him a liar! Years later we have learned that there WERE weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that had been transported to Syria prior to the UN inspections which made the attack (somewhat) more justified and proved Bush wasn’t lying. But with this Libyan incident it’s already been proven that it WAS a planned terrorist attack! So, there were REAL lies told by the Obama administration saying the YouTube video was the spark that started the supposed “riot”! The Obama administration KNEW it was a terrorist attack from day ONE! Same thing with fast and furious, try to cover it up and if that doesn’t work lie about it!!!

Not many words needed to describe you. A spoonfed liberal dem that cannot see the truth if it hits you in the face….

eddie – Okay, eddie, go ahead and produce the post where I said the thing about Chicago and Israel. The truth is, when you accused me of posting it awhile back, I didn’t know what you were talking about. I had not even heard of Israel being involved. And I refuted you at the time with no response.

Not that it matters, but YOU LIE, eddie, like a typical lefty.

You must get me confused with someone on one of your other trolling sites.

No, eddie47d, she gave her opinion on an assumed possibility not on known facts. You cannot have known facts that are wrong, if they are KNOWN FACTS then they are correct. Who told her the lies, that she ASSUMED were true, that she based her wrong, incorrect, invalid and stupid opinion on? And to her statement that it is their responsibility to get INFORMATION out to the public as quickly as it is learned. If, IF, it is actual information then yes, if it is an assumption of a possibility then HELL NO. If they (the administration) didnt yet know what seems obvious, then they should have just said “There has been a severe tragedy in Libya and we are investigating the circumstances surrounding it.”. Being responsible is very important when reporting on events, making up facts out of opinions is irresponsible.

Therealhawkman: If any administration doesn’t say ANYTHING THEY WILL BE ACCUSED OF HIDING INFORMATION. If they make a quick assumption they are thought of as stupid and incompetent. We all want instant information and want it now so we get the quickest message first. Then the pundits run with that! In the end we only have disinformation and no one is satisfied.

Admit your lying Kate and move on. Its too late for you to save face on that one! Next time read what you wrote and agreed with or stop posting that nonsense.

Nice cover up HH: Iraq had Sunni leadership and Syria had Shiite leadership. Assad wouldn’t have allowed Saddam to transport those weapons into his country even if he did have them. Do you really think that is the only thing Bush lied about? .

Do you REALLY believe Saddam didn’t have ANY WMD’s? eddie, you are completely hopeless!

(Iraq had Sunni leadership and Syria had Shiite leadership.)

eddie, don’t you know those radical Muslim’s will band together to fight the “infidel” and after that they will go right back to their petty wars and hatred for each other?

Kate8. I would not worry overmuch about any attempts by eddie47d to discredit you. Most anyone who has been here reading for more than a week can easily see that eddie makes a LOT of assertions with no attempt to validate them. I don’t even have to validate my assertion about eddie with links to his posts cause the board is littered with examples.

His credibility is so close to 0 that only flash(whatever) has a lower rating.

I don’t archive any of the previous articles Vickie and I expect other people to be honest. There is much more to do in life than babysitting Kate and apparently she won’t come clean.

So True, never has our country seen such perversion and lies. We thought Clinton and Algore were bad, and can we forget Jimmy Carter that drove many in this country into bankruptcy. obama and biden, come on America, even the democratic party can to better than them. It goes goes to show you like Zell Miller said when he switched to the Republican Party, He didn’t leave the Democrats they left Him.

Were you patriotic when Nixon screwed up? I bet you were! Were you patriotic when Reagan screwed up in Lebanon and Central America. We can be sure of that! Were you a patriot when Bush invaded Iraq? Totally accepted being blindsided weren’t you? Did you willingly accept the Patriot Act because a Republican signed it into law? Obviously! Did you accept the collaspe economy courtesy of the Bush Administration? No doubt about it! Carter made his share of mess ups and so did Clinton but the thing is the Republicans have had more than their fair share. That is why Patriotism Reigns is full of it because he is a biased fool. He won’t defend the truth because he is too busy defending the Republican Party

Ah, eddie! It doesn’t matter what ANY of us thought in the past! What matters is, if we have woken to the truth NOW!!!

eddie, let’s be fair. Nixon, barring the Watergate scandal, was actually a very effective president. He preserved our gold reserve when inflation due to the Vietnam war prompted foreign nations to cash in their paper dollars for gold. He established the dollar as the supreme international currency via an agreement with OPEC to deal only in dollars (the petrodollar). He put an end to the military draft, as well as our involvement in Vietnam. And this is to say nothing of the foreign affairs he managed, brokering a treaty with Russia to limit nuclear weapons, or his 1972 visit to China, which ended more than two decades of tension between the United States and China.

Reagan, too, was a very effective president. He reduced the 10-13% inflation rate left to him by Jimmy Carter to 4.2% by the end of his second term. He organized a controlled recession with Paul Volcker at the Federal Reserve to break the inflationary cycle (which most ignorant people think was some sort of failure, though it had a purpose). Reagan broke the USSR. He was instrumental in the breaking down of the Berlin Wall.

Don’t rip on presidents just because they are Republican. No one is perfect. All presidents will make mistaks. All presidents walk into a situation left behind by their predecessor. All presidents deal with difficult issues. Some fail. Others succeed.

I personally can’t stand George W. Bush. The Patriot Act is an abomination. But so is the National Defense Authorization Act. I hate that Bush spent as much as he did. But I hate it even more that Obama spent the same amount in less than half the time. It took Obama a mere three years to spend what Bush spent in eight.

When you look back through the presidents we’ve had, I have to say that Clinton is the only quality Democrat president we’ve had relative to his accomplishments, despite Whitewater or any other scandals. The Republicans can claim Nixon and Reagan who both had significant accomplishments, scandals also notwithstanding.

And for the record, the economy collapsed because of the Democrats. It started with Carter and the Housing and Urban Developement Act, which was later altered by Clinton. The mandates passed down to the banks and lenders by Congress led to the housing crisis, and the housing crisis led to the collapse of companies like Lehman Brothers, which is what sparked the ’08 crash and bailout. The massive spending by the Democrats led to high gas prices via inflation. And soon, we’ll have either hyperinflation or depression because of the economic position our current president has put us in.

It would be to your advantage to drop party loyalties, do your homework, and then think according to the facts. You are as guilty of bias as the person you are criticizing.

eddie – As per your usual MO, you attempt to justify the wrongs committed by your guys by pointing out the wrongs of the past committed by the “other” guys.

According to you lefties, your guys are supposed to be better than ours, and above such treasonous behavior. Yet, you absolve them of blame because “our” guys did it, too. This should, if nothing else, prove to you that there isn’t much difference between them, except in our minds.

What I find amusing is that you defend such things when “your” guys do them. What a riot.

You’re too funny Kate and a full blown hypocrite. If that was true you would have had a full fledged attack against Patriotism Reigns but what do we hear? Crickets! My point was to him for HIS one sidedness or can’t you grasp that? You ain’t throwing that swill back at me until you can be fair in your judgement.

Nancy in Nebraska says,

“Ah, eddie! It doesn’t matter what ANY of us thought in the past! What matters is, if we have woken to the truth NOW!!!”

Two weeks ago, President Obama was walking around the Capital Mall with an aide when he spied a little girl holding a covered basket.

Curious, he asked the girl what she had in the basket. She removed the cloth to reveal a litter of newborn kittens.

Obama asked, “Are they Democrats or Republicans?” “Democrats,” she quickly replied. The pleased president patted her on the head and continued his tour.

Last week, he was on the Mall again, this time with a different aide. Spotting the little girl in the same place, he nudged the aide and said, “Watch this.”

Once again, he asked the girl what she had in the basket, and once again she revealed the litter of kittens. “Are they Democrats or Republicans,” he asked. “Republicans,” she replied.

“But last week you said they were Democrats.”

“Yes,” the little girl replied, “but now their eyes are open.”

Cute story, Vigilant! Thanks for sharing!

This lady is just like Obama – how many times has she been caught in lies? Too many for me to remember. GET HER OUT OF OFFICE.

Washerwoman
Washerwoman is a very dedicated pathological liar. She’s not dumb or deceived by anyone. She’s the deceiver, rotten & decadent to the core. The picture says it all! She’s been around forever… the mythological Siren beguiling half witted liberals to the cause… not half eagle… maybe half mocking bird with the head of Hydra. Nice picture — washerwoman is what she is in every sense of the word. “Four on the floor” or “hydramatic” – your choice

you forgot MEDUSA

And the definition of “is” is…?

Maybe it’s just me…but every time I hear Debbie Crapweasel Wasserman or that disgusting David Axlerod on TV, if I listen very much, I feel like I’m coated with slime, and must immediately go take a shower. These people are lower than the lowest. I’m sorry, but Debbie, if she were male and in a different time period (the 60′s, for instance) would be a used car salesman. Just beyond belief at how they lie, cheat and steal, and then try to act all righteous about it. Wow!

Debbie Wasserman Schultz has proven time and time again that she is the closest thing we have to a walking, talking, living moron in government politics today. She, herself, is exceptionally rude in almost every interview she is involved in. Her responses are extremely insulting to anyone listening who might be even slightly aware of what’s going on in the world today. She defies credibility on almost every occasion (I’m giving her a pass with the inclusion of “almost”). My father always said, “water seeks its own level.” I’m glad Ms. Schultz has found her niche within the Democrat party. She’d be hard pressed to land a job with any private corporation that requires a modicum of intelligence.

Doris–How many times has Romney and his little buddy told lies–even after they are corrected they keep telling the same lies over and over because they think you are stupid enough to believe it if he says it enough times.

Sheryn,

It’s actually the Obama campaign that’s doing that. If they’ve said it once, they’ve said it a dozen or more times, “Romney is going to cut five trillion in taxes from the wealthy,” or “the Romney administration would raise taxes on the middle class.” And despite clear-cut rebuttals to these accusations, the Obama administration continues to spout this nonsense. Obama said it. Romney denied it. Romney explained what he would do. The debate ended. Obama called him a liar and repeated the same crap.

Get your facts straight.

Why do the Dems/Progs/Leftists feel it necessary to play the linguistical deception game? Why am I even asking, because they know they would not be able to do the damage to the country if they told the truth. So their “doing good or doing the right things” is all a lie and the truth is not in them to tell.
The fun and games of language obfuscation by the Dems/Progs/Leftists will now begin with a vindictiveness unsurpassed.
Since eddie47d, Karolyn, Flashy, Shelia, etc., and quite a few others were not successful to get their words to do any verbal damage, a new bunch will be put in that is more cunning in language.

Couldn’t resist – Big Bird??!!

Liberals LOVE to change the meanings of words!!! Then, they can say whatever they want!!!

Nadzieja – Liberals believe that in ‘the end justifies the means’. It’s right in their operating documents.

That means lies, cheating, stealing and even killing. All bets are off, as long as they get the desired results.

What really blows me away is that their minions actually believe all this outrageous nonsense.

Kate 8 says, “What really blows me away is that their minions actually believe all this outrageous nonsense.”

You know Kate, I got the same feeling watching the VP debate last night. Listening to Biden spew all that crap I was thinking “WOW” Obama’s got HIM snowed too!!! He REALLY believes that crap!!!

What a double hoot! Thanks Frick and Frack “The end justifies the means” ? Such short term memories ladies! The Iraq War,Wall Street manipulations,Mitch McConnell’s angry remarks about Obama and so forth. Seems like a few slick Republicans also use those tactics. Please stop with your own snow jobs its killing me. LOL!

HH – Biden is embarrassing. He’s got some screws loose.

Besides, people like him get paid well to believe whatever they’re told to believe, and to spout it as if it were true. They know which side their bread is buttered on.

They’ll get their come-uppance soon enought, though.

(They’ll get their come-uppance soon enought, though.)

Not soon enough for me Kate8, can’t wait for November!!!

Sheryn says:
“Doris–How many times has Romney and his little buddy told lies–even after they are corrected they keep telling the same lies over and over because they think you are stupid enough to believe it if he says it enough times.”

Um. Judging from the links you provided to support your assertion I would guess ZERO, None, nada etc….

The democrats on the otherhand…..
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/
http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies
http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/the_democrats_biggest_lie.html
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/30/politifact-bias-does-the-gop-tell-nine-times-more-lies-than-left-really/
http://www.therightscoop.com/dnc-website-blatantly-lies-about-democrat-history-on-civil-rights/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/these-are-5-of-the-biggest-lies-told-on-the-first-day-of-the-dnc/

And that is just a few of the 3+ MILLION links returned for the question list of democrat lies.

Robert, jr :: Wasn’t Medusa the one with the snake hair… one look & you turned to stone. Had a mem-lapse there, but if so your thoughts really match the picture to point of ultimate cool! great comment!

Riddle of the day – If washerwoman was really chairwoman & Barney fwyank sat on her, wood she splinter?

My full comment seems stuck in moderation so here is a one link version:

Sheryn says:
“Doris–How many times has Romney and his little buddy told lies–even after they are corrected they keep telling the same lies over and over because they think you are stupid enough to believe it if he says it enough times.”

Um. Judging from the links you provided to support your assertion I would guess ZERO, None, nada etc….

The democrats on the otherhand…..
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

The ususal democrat double standard.

I recall Bush being excoriated for LYING about WMDs, even though he claimed that he was given wrong information.

Well, the truth is, they ALL lie about everything. To them, the truth is whatever they can make us believe it is.

Obama is completely made up of lies. Everything about him is false.

@Kate8: Agreed here – Bush was given information that was not true, or accurate, and EVERYBODY went along with him on invasion. I’ve also read Saddam’s own scientists may have been lying when telling Saddam just how much or how close they were with WMDs.

OMG – I’m defending Waterwoman Schlitz. HELP MEEEEEEE!!!

Debbie is the democrap’s spokesperson because she can say LOTS of words REAL fast!!! When she spews her meaningless crap, nobody can get a word in edgewise!!! If you DO manage to call her on anything, out pours another torrent of meaningless words to make you forget what you were thinking!!! She just vomits out her lies and crap!!!

Fascism = statism

Communism = statism

Birds of a feather

So you’re one of the 47% voting for the free money and phones?

Another idiot

Bear, obama isn’t exactly a Communist, but he’s damned close! He’s a NAZI. If you look @ what the Nazi Party stood for & then look @ what obama stands for you will not be able to tell the difference. It doesn’t matter though. You couldn’t tell the truth if your life depended on it. We simply MUST un-elect obama ASAP if America is to survive as a free Nation, under God & not under Allah.

(…..MUST un-elect obama ASAP if America is to survive as a free Nation, under God & not under Allah.)

AMEN Cameron!!!

Bear says:
“Who cares what an Obama surrogate says, Romney lies every day!”

Evidence dear. Evidence.

Bear get high on weed
Bear climb tree too high
Bear fall on head
Bear now hold head crying O-bummer, O-bummer, O-bummer

Alright Bear, None of your ilk has so far been able to prove what I ask. Prove, with facts that can not be forged. 1. Where was Barack Hussein Obama II born. It must be a real birth certificate, not his forged one (BTW I believe he was Born in or on the way to Hawaii) 2. Since he was a Indonesian citizen, show when he repatriated. We know for sure he got foreign student aid at Occidental Univ. If it was after his 21st birthday the where and when he was naturalized. Even his biggest supporters can not answer these questions.