Well “JimH”, the U.S. is NOT a world leader…IT IS a world aggressor and I certainly hope Canada doesn’t become another U.S.imitator although our Prime Minister certainly is doing his best at “sucking-up” to th U.S. and other Zionists.Leaders dont have to FORCE others to do their bidding. They TEACH, PERSUADE and are PATIENT but not march in with guns blazing. and STEAL resouorces, murdeer millions of men women and children.Check your country’s history, IF you still believe you are leaders…AND by the way I am also IRISH

What is happening around the world speaks for itself.

Like I said, when it comes to disaster relief, where do the Canadians or Irish stand compared to the U.S. You didn’t answer.
Even though you have the potential, same resources, education and heritage, you lag behind. What’s the problem? You didn’t answer.
You don’t need to worry about Canada being a world aggressor, even if you wanted to.
I’d like to know more about the MILLIONS of men, women and children that were murdered by us. When, where, how, things like that.
I would also like to know more about the STOLEN resources. I know we buy raw materials and goods from other countries. It helps their economy too.
Compaired to the U.S. where does Canada and Ireland stand in the giving of foriegn aid, or helping others in need around the world with private charities? Red Cross, Save the Children, Feed my Starving Children, You know, the ones I’m sure YOU personaly donate to.
I know my countries history, aparently better than you do.
You never answered my question about if the Illegal Imigrants or Radical Islamists could maybe be a problem and it may not be ALL us. But I never really expect answers to my questions because you my need to rethink your oppinion.
This bigoted, slavish, redneck would like to know.

Dear JimH
You are 110% correct!

ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN . . . probably lives in Ontario of Quebec . . . both these provinces are just as BROKE as California. And of course Ireland is also among the bankrupt Euro socialist states . . .
Roger says “march in with guns blazing. and STEAL resources, murdeer millions of men women and children.” ? ? ? Roger me thinks your Nutty-Bone has come loose in your head . . . never happened . . . only in your weak lieberal mind ! ! !

JimH: “It helps their economy too.” Look up the terms of NAFTA and similar treaties. If the raw material-providing countries party to the agreements enact legislation to build up their economies, such as enacting environmental, minimum wage, or labor laws, they can be sued for restraint of trade by US companies buying their raw materials. The agreements are designed to help the ruling classes at the expense of the workers, at both ends of the treaties.

SSJOLLY, Maybe we shouldn’t buy their materials, and none of those people would have a job or make money, comrad.
My point to Roger was we BUY it, not steal it.
And it does more for that countries economy to have us or someone buy it than to NOT develope it.
It DOES help the other countries economy, even though it may not be the way YOU want it to.

Is that your attempt to make up facts eddie?
Money has come from China in the last 4 years.(fact)
The printing press has been busy also.

D*mn, you just spoiled a pet belief of the Religious Right, that Obama is the anti-Christ!

You forgot your usual “brutal God” anti-Christian remark.

Dear Bob
You are correct, they donated in to our Presidential campaign once( or more?). China dirty money went in to our politic and finacial system!
Be aware, China money is influenting this country thinking! Our goverment knows but try nothing to stop that because of personal greed!

China long ago wants to FREE OWN globally, that country thinks it is The Central of nations! We as the U.S has been feeding a monster up to the point it got so big and swalowing it feeder… Thank you Nixon who digged the U.S grave!

My great Grand Father had tell me: ” I rather work for a White men than work for any Yellow men!”.
You know what Bob, he was a Yellow men himself!

Dean

No, RS, thank William Jefferson Clinton.

“The 1996 United States campaign finance controversy, also known as Chinagate, was an alleged effort by the People’s Republic of China to influence domestic American politics during the 1996 federal elections.

“The issue first received public attention in early 1997, with news that a Justice Department investigation had uncovered evidence that agents of China sought to direct contributions to the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in violation of U.S. laws regarding foreign political contributions. The Chinese government denied all accusations. Twenty-two people were eventually convicted of fraud or for funneling Asian funds into the United States elections, and others fled U.S. jurisdiction. Several of these were associates of Bill Clinton or Al Gore.” (Wikipedia)

P.S. Citizens United decision does not condone or authorize such contributions, contrary to you and Obama’s assertions otherwise.

RS also makes the claim, “…Remember, that CHINESE company [sic] can buy elections in America because the right likes the idea of it being a “person.”

The legal concept of corporations being artifical persons has been around for almost 200 years. Try again, ignorant one.

You are right Vigilant, we can all remember the story about AlBore carrying a large sack of cash given by the Chinese to the Bill Clinton campaign. How about all the stimulas money going to Chinese “green: companies?
Republcans are probably guilty but the demoRATs are up front with their begging for foreign funds to buy votes.

Robert Smith, get your head out of where the sun don’t shine, Slick Willie on the left bought votes via the Chinese, not the right, or have you become such a robot, you just repeat lie’s and hope they stick like your illegal citizen in chief? Now I know how Hitler came to power, he controlled the minds of the Robot’s and just let them lose on the people. I give you my salute to your brains less comment, my right hand, middle finger salute to you and your messiah islamist in chief.

“The legal concept of corporations being artifical persons has been around for almost 200 years. ”

But it was only recently that it’s been legal for them to contribute on a wholesale basis to political campaigns.

If a Chinese owned corporation in America…

Well, you get the picture. And it’s the right wing that made it legal as the rest of us oppose our companies and elections being bought off.

Rob

“And it’s the right wing that made it legal as the rest of us oppose our companies and elections being bought off.”

Guess you didn’t oppose the buying of elections by big labor unions very strenuously, did you? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and Citizens United leveled the playing field so unions don’t have the unfair advantage they’ve had for decades.

Eat your heart out, fool.

See http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

Vigilant says:
October 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm

BIG LABOR?????????? Your funny, 12% of the workers are in unions and less that one in ten are in the private sector and you call that big?? God what joke they have never been over 35% union in the US and that was 40 years ago. Sure companies and union haters try to portray it as such to further there own vested purposes but honest people do not buy that BS as they know better. Total union expenditures for politics and lobbying is only $1.00. for every $65.00 total dollars spent by corporations. Imagine Goliath being 65 feet tall and David one foot tall and Vig then would call David Big!! It’s a jopke and PURE BULL

As usual, smilee ignores the facts provided by URL linkage and then makes a claim unsupported by anything other than an assertion. This leftist tactic was evident in his totally uninformed and illogical position on another thread where he claimed that slavery was unconstitutional prior to the 13th Amendment.

But, we’ve grown to accept smilee’s ignorance AND stupidity. Ignorance can be fixed, but stupidity is forever.

VIG

The truth is neither left or right it is just the truth which you deny and if you disagree just label it leftist as if that somehow makes it false even if it is true. This post was about the size of Unions not about anything else but lacking an intelligent response to what I said in this post you went off on a tangent to a subject totally not related to it and used that absurdity to attempt to divert from these truths in this post which you attacked in the same manner as most posts you respond to. It is well known and documented as to what share of the labor force is union that should not be a question and the 65:1 ratio of spending is the current ratio reported just this week in the nations newspapers on articles reporting on current campaign spending, you did nothing to answer that, Is it that you know the truth and do not care or is it that it does not support your biases or are you just so uninformed. You often label things leftist which I guess in your mind is any position you attack of those with whom you disagree and the truth when established honestly would expose your deceit. The truth is the truth and nothing else, so if you disagree with what I said why not argue just the merit of this post rather than use BS and innuendo which has become your trademark of not staying on message. You rarely address what I say but are always trying to do an end run to avoid doing so and that lends itself to conversation that is totally one sided, your side or nothing and thus your frustrations which seem to lead to a lot of name calling which appears that you may think this somehow supports your point. It does not.

Vigilant says:
October 2, 2012 at 9:08 am

P.S. Citizens United decision does not condone or authorize such contributions, contrary to you and Obama’s assertions otherwise.

RESPONSE:

Your right, it just made it legal and I believe that is what Obama’s real objection is which you again spin and distort.

I said, “Citizens United decision does not condone or authorize such contributions, contrary to you and Obama’s assertions otherwise.”

smilee’s RESPONSE:

“Your [sic] right, it just made it legal and I believe that is what Obama’s real objection is which you again spin and distort.”

Caught you in a flat lie, sonny. Citizen’s United IN NO WAY made contributions from foreign sources legal. Period. End of discussion.

“You rarely address what I say but are always trying to do an end run to avoid doing so…”

ANOTHER fat lie, little boy. I ALWAYS address your comments. You are the one who inevitably attempts to take the conversation off into the weeds.

Smilee says, “This post was about the size of Unions not about anything else but lacking an intelligent response to what I said in this post you went off on a tangent to a subject totally not related to it…”

Third BIG lie. The size of union membership has nothing to do with my earlier comment. The FUNDING provided to Democrats by unions was the subject, or is your attention span truncated by watching too many American Idol shows?

Bet you didn’t even check out the link I provided, and if you did, it didn’t fit in with your myopic and leftist views so you disregarded it.

65 to 1? Too bad it’s not 1,000 to 1.

VIG,

There you go again changing the subject and going again off on a tangent, why is it you have to change what I said and then address that rather than what I accurately said., it makes you look stupid.

Your Statement quoted here below , also they have always money wise had a disadvantage but did have more political clout 40 years that they do now and it has been going down since the eighties but never was it a level playing field, that is clearly documented. You apparently hate unions so you lie about them.

YOUR WORDS:

Guess you didn’t oppose the buying of elections by big labor unions {big labor unions was your words I responded to and you said I responded something else when I did not, another lie of yours} very strenuously, did you? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and Citizens United leveled the playing field so unions don’t have the unfair advantage they’ve had for decades.

eat your heart out, fool.

My response now is added here:

Unions were never on a level playing field but at one time even non union workers supported unions which few do today but they have never had a level playing field and without that non union support they would not got anywhere near where they got but the unions themselves have never had the monies corporations had..

MY FIRST RESPONSE WAS:

BIG LABOR?????????? Your funny, 12% of the workers are in unions and less that one in ten are in the private sector and you call that big?? God what joke they have never been over 35% union in the US and that was 40 years ago. Sure companies and union haters try to portray it as such to further there own vested purposes but honest people do not buy that BS as they know better. Total union expenditures for politics and lobbying is only $1.00. for every $65.00 total dollars spent by corporations. Imagine Goliath being 65 feet tall and David one foot tall and Vig then would call David Big!! It’s a jopke and PURE BULL

“Then you responded to the post with:”

Smilee says, “This post was about the size of Unions not about anything else but lacking an intelligent response to what I said in this post you went off on a tangent to a subject totally not related to it…”
Third BIG lie. {reread above what I actually said, it should make you realize your lie} The size of union membership has nothing to do with my earlier comment. {see your earlier comment above, these are your words not mine and that is your words I responded too not what you claim in this post< the liar is clearly you} The FUNDING provided to Democrats by unions was the subject, {I responded to your words above and not this, comprehension here is what you seem unable to do} or is your attention span truncated by watching too many American Idol shows? {another one of your stupid statements that have nothing to do with either subject}

Bet you didn’t even check out the link I provided, {I did but it was not the issue that I addressed so what has that got to do with the price of tea in China} and if you did, it didn’t fit in with your myopic and leftist views so you disregarded it. {I was talking about facts and the truth and just what does that got to do with leftist views. You apparently view what you term leftist as being the truth as you cannot have it both ways}

65 to 1? Too bad it’s not 1,000 to 1. {I guess you are supportive of power in balances, that was the basis for slavery too. The founders mostly believed in balance of power something you must detest}

 Vigilant says:
October 3, 2012 at 6:26 am
As usual, smilee ignores the facts provided by URL linkage and then makes a claim unsupported by anything other than an assertion. This leftist tactic was evident in his totally uninformed and illogical position on another thread where he claimed that slavery was unconstitutional prior to the 13th Amendment.
But, we’ve grown to accept smilee’s ignorance AND stupidity. Ignorance can be fixed, but stupidity is forever.

Vigilant says:
October 2, 2012 at 9:08 am
P.S. Citizens United decision does not condone or authorize such contributions, contrary to you and Obama’s assertions otherwise.
MY RESPONSE:
Your right, it just made it legal and I believe that is what Obama’s real objection is which you again spin and distort.

And then your response to it:

I said, “Citizens United decision does not condone or authorize such contributions, contrary to you and Obama’s assertions otherwise.”
smilee’s

RESPONSE:

“Your [sic] {your insert} right, it just made it legal and I believe that is what Obama’s real objection is which you again spin and distort.”
Caught you in a flat lie, sonny. Citizen’s United IN NO WAY made contributions from foreign sources legal. Period. End of discussion.

MY Response to it:

There you go again, I never said anything about contributions from foreign sources them are your words and you contribute them to me and you call me the liar, it is you whom are the guilty one on both lies which you so frequently do, you say I said it and then say end of discussion, no way will I allow you to end it on a bold face lie and if you do not recognize that to yourself then your delusional as well..

“There you go again, [sic] I never said anything about contributions from foreign sources them [sic] are your words and you contribute [sic] them to me and you call me the liar, [sic] it is you whom [sic] are the guilty one on both lies which you so frequently do, [sic] you say I said it and then say end of discussion, [sic] no way will I allow you to end it on a bold [sic] face [sic] lie and if you do not recognize that to [sic] yourself then your [sic] delusional as well..”

Probably could have found another “sic” or two, but I’m lazy tonight. I change my recommendation: take a course in elementary English before you take that “Constitution for Dummies” course.

I’m really concerned about your disintegration right in front of my eyes. Better take some meds, calm down and reconcile yourself to the fact that you are outclassed in every possible matter for discussion by yours truly. You’ll feel better tomorrow morning.

VIG, WOW!! you have now shown your all out of anything intelligent to say not even any lies, just a whole lot of garbage that only serves to brightly illustrate your stupidity and total lack of character. What a sicko you are!!!!!!

To control a nation you need only to control their debt. John Adams

The Chinese do and they will, unless we do something about our debt and who controls it.

4) Based on the Treasury’s most recent statistics, US government interest payments to China will total at least $26.055 billion this year. The real figure may be much higher given that China has been purchasing Treasuries for decades, back when interest rates were much higher. They’re still getting paid on those higher rates today.

Even still, this year’s interest payment to China totals more than ALL the silver that was mined in the world last year.

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/eight-signs-the-system-is-broken-8930/