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The Movie That Could Defeat Obama

September 21, 2012 by  

The Movie That Could Defeat Obama
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"2016:Obama's America" will be released on DVD on Oct. 16.

We were running a little late when my wife and I headed to the movie theater last month to see the documentary “2016: Obama’s America.” But I told her not to worry, since there would be 10 to 15 minutes of commercials and previews before the show started.

“And besides, we’ll probably have our choice of seats,” I added. “No way will this one be full.”

Boy! Was I ever wrong! Even though it was a lovely Saturday afternoon, the theater was packed. And the sentiment of the crowd was more like a Tea Party rally than any movie audience I’d ever seen.

If you haven’t seen this explosive documentary, please make plans to do so.  Encourage all of your concerned family and friends to join you. Even better, take a few undecided voters with you — or even some liberals whose minds haven’t been sealed shut. The impact on them could be phenomenal.

“2016: Obama’s America” opened in mid-July in one movie theater in Houston. By August, it was playing on more than 1,200 screens across the country. This month it is showing in more than 2,000 theaters in all 50 States. And by this time next month, it should be available on DVD, so you’ll be able to see it at home and lend it to others.

The movie is based the bestselling book The Roots of Obama’s Rage by Dinesh D’Souza, who served as narrator and co-director of the film. I’ve had the pleasure of introducing Dinesh at several conferences, and I arranged an exclusive interview with him for Personal Liberty Digest™.

During our conversation, D’Souza told me that both liberals and conservatives make a big mistake when they think Barack Obama has failed to achieve his goals. High unemployment, crippling debt, a weak foreign policy and fading military power are not accidents, according to D’Souza. They are actually the results of the bigger objectives that Obama seeks: the decline of American prosperity and power in the world.

Of course, no politician in America could ever admit that those are his real goals. D’Souza said that as a result: “Obama has to camouflage what he wants to do. Now that he’s in campaign mode, he presents himself as a budget cutter, as a friend of Israel, and so on. He’s depending on the ignorance of the American people not to see through what he says.”

All that will change if Obama gets re-elected.

“In the second term, if he gets one, the real Obama will emerge. It will not be a pretty sight,” Dinesh told me.

I asked him to explain a warning he included near the end of his new book Obama’s America: Unmaking the American DreamObama's America: Unmaking the American Dream: “The most dangerous man in America currently lives in the White House.”

Dinesh said: “Obama is dangerous because he subscribes to an ideology that is very dangerous for America. He wants to knock this country off its pedestal so we are no longer #1. He wants to transfer wealth away from America to the rest of the world. And he wants to weaken our position in the world.”

Dinesh believes Obama’s liberal supporters would be shocked if they understood what is really driving our President. At the core of his worldview is a virulent anti-colonialism, with the United States as the chief culprit.

“America has more because America has stolen this wealth from others,” Dinesh said Obama believes. “And America must now pay it back.” In Obama’s America: Unmaking the American Dream, D’Souza explains what this means:

Many of Obama’s supporters rail against the top 1 percent, fancying themselves in the lowly 99 percent, and this may be true as far as they are concerned. But it is not true as far as Obama is concerned. When he talks about the 1 percent and the 99 percent, he is using a global basis of comparison. So by Obama’s measure, the vast majority of Americans are counted as rich.

Obama wants to take their wealth from them and give it to those who he believes deserve it.

“He’s doing this in the name of global justice,” D’Souza said. Obama will not consider his job finished until “the American standard of living is comparable to that of the rest of the world.” In other words, Obama thinks of this country as a plunderer and of himself as the messianic leader whose job is to “restore fairness.”

Interestingly enough, while they are polar opposites politically, D’Souza and Obama share many things in common. A native of Mumbai, India, Dinesh grew up in a different part of the world, just as Obama did. They both were born in the same year, attended Ivy League colleges, graduated in the same year and married in the same year.

But as D’Souza explains: “Here is the paradox: I am a Third World guy who has embraced America, and Obama is an American who has embraced a Third World ideology.”

D’Souza told me that he doesn’t consider the film a “don’t vote for this guy message,” rather it’s a “find out who he really is” message. Or, as the tagline to the movie puts it, “Love him or hate him, you don’t know him.”

Ultimately, D’Souza believes, “2016: Obama’s America” isn’t just about Obama. “It’s about the American dream itself,” he said. “The truth is that Obama has a different dream from most of us. It’s emblazoned across his book. As he says in the title, it’s the dream from his father.

“He’s entitled to have such a dream, if he wishes. But he is not entitled to impose that dream on the American people without their knowledge and consent.”

That’s really what the coming election is all about, isn’t it — our different visions for the future of our country. As D’Souza reveals, Obama believes he is destined to be “the architect of American decline.” He not only wants to see this country lose its superpower status, but he wants to “fundamentally transform” America so that the “shining city on the hill” becomes just another shantytown in the global village.

If you need one more reason to see “2016: Obama’s America,” consider this response from an Obama campaign official: “This movie is complete fiction and rooted in lies, distortions and conspiracy theories about the President, rather than facts.”

Considering how much is at stake, I hope you’ll make plans now to see “2016: Obama’s America” and take some friends with you.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • John R. Howell

    Obama is a communist, and he fully intends to make this country communist. All the people on his stafff are communists, all documented in the book “Shadow Government” by Scott Wheeler. I saw the same thing happen in Cuba where I used to take summer vacations. The summer before Castro took over, idiots in the streets were cheering for him. By the next summer, nobody cheered any more. An architect friend of mine and I were walking in Havana that summer when we happened to pass by a prison. We could clearly hear screams coming from inside the prison, and my friend told me that Castro was torturing former opponents. I wanted to go in and protest, but my friend nervously told me that if I did, that I would be screaming also within an hour. I heard those screams with my own ears, and I can tell you that there is no word in the English language that can describe those horrible screams.
    Obama will do the same thing here. Even if he is not re-elected, he will be president from November 6 until January1. At that time, he will stage street riots, shoot people in the streets, declare martial law, suspend the constitution, and declare himself president for life, all in one day. Tea Party members and other opponents will be arrested, tortured, and killed or sent to Guantanamo for further torture.
    Obama has a savage hatred for this country, and he fully intends to make it communist. Those idiots who believe otherwise will wake up when it is too late and say, “Golee, what happened?”
    But I am not afraid. I will work against Obama until I draw my last breath, which probably will happen while I am on a torture rack in Guantanamo.
    John R. Howell

    • Shelia

      what drugs are you smoking, you are really dumb.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Shelia, of the misspelled name, how could you call anyone else dumb?? Your mama must have been smokin’ something when she named you. And it was all downhill after that.

    • hipshotpercusion

      Thank you, John. “Those who would forget history are doomed to repeat it.”

    • eddie47d

      John Howell should have stuck to the original part of his story to make a point. Then he went berserk and lost all credibility. There will be no Martial Law and Obama will not be a President for life. You sir are a pathetic bought off right wing troll and that is being very kind. You remind me of what Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan of Australia said,” That the Republicans have become no more than cranks and crazies”. That “Republican stubbornness is ruining the American economy” and that the GOP leadership is “allowing the Tea Party extremists to control the American economy”. Now this is not Hugo Chavez or Ahmadinejad speaking but an official from a capitalist country which avoided the recession and is doing well.

      • eddie ervin

        i am beginning to want to meet you one on one puppy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Ted G

        “Tea Party extremists” eh? explain yourself, eddie. The tea Party’s primary goal is to demand that the government follow the US Constitution Eddie. What is extreme about that?
        Please be specific Eddie. Lets hear how you think the US Constitution is extreme?

        Show me/us what you really believe! Say it in plain english eddie not all this BS propaganda you spew.
        Because if we don’t agree that the Constitution is the fundamental Law on which all the rest flows from then you are just another traitor.

      • eddie47d

        First Ted G take a reading comprehension coarse. Then come back and pay attention to what was said . It was Wayne Swan who said that about the Tea Party so why don’t you write him a nice letter and get an explanation from him. That is why I don’t want those like you running this country for you just don’t pay attention.

      • Ted G

        Nice avoidance there eddie, you propped it up as a position statement. Support you yourself. How about answering the question istead of misdirecting the issue.

    • nc

      John, you are not paying attention! We have been promised by people HERE with that SAME ESP you have that there will be NO ELCTIONS IN NOVEMBER,2012 and Obama will have declared himself dictator in chief! !Whether Obama wins or Romney wins you people are going to look dumber than s**T when a president is sworn in in January with no major outbreaks of violence! How many people have predicted weird stuff like you are peddling over the years only to have to kill themselves when it didn’t happen!

      Makes no matter! The Myans are going to take us out on 12/12/12 and I lose my January time share at the ski lodge! I was so looking forward to pushing the old lady off the mountain this year!

      • HH

        (The Myans are going to take us out on 12/12/12 and I lose my January time share at the ski lodge!)

        It’s actually on 12/21/12 or the winter solstice, you don’t have ANY facts straight do you?

  • Rafael

    The question that one needs to ask is why after lowering interest rates to zero and pumping over $2 trillion into the monetary system the economy remains subdued.

    By introducing another massive monetary-pumping scheme Obama-Bernanke are running the risk of inflicting more damage to the process of real wealth generation. Consequently, this raises the likelihood that we could remain in depressed economic conditions over a prolonged period of time.

    • Judy

      Here is a great email I received ,
      Lesson 1
      U.S. Tax Revenue. 2,170,000,000,000
      Fed Budget. 3,820,000,000,000
      New debt. 1,650,000,000,000
      National debt. 15,891,000,000,000
      Recent budget cuts. 38,500,000,000

      Lesson 2 drop the 9 zeros and think of this as your own household budget
      Household annual income. 21,700.00
      Money family spent. 38,200.00
      New debt on credit card. 16,500.00
      Outstanding credit card balance.158,910.00
      Total budget cites so far. 3.85

      Is this how we all run our house, but yet we let this government run our White House like this and we wonder why we are headed off the cliff. What sucks is we will all pay the price, no matter what you believe or how you perceive this president we are all in this together and we will all pay in the end, don’t kid yourself this can not continue and end up good for anyone.

  • http://http//drjosephabarbier.blogspot.com DrBarbier

    I saw the picture two weeks ago and found it to be revealing and projective of Obama’s intuitive desires for this country. He further tookk an OATH on THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, which in my opinion, I Have serious questions about NOW. I hope he is not the President that was in The Movie of The Week on TV about 30 years ago, which was devastating to the USA

  • Jo

    I have seen the movie and I believe it should be seen by everyone, Republican, Liberal, Democrat, Libertarian etc. BEFORE going to vote. I think it borders on criminal how the MSM has hidden the 0bama agenda and everything about him from the American people.

    • nwrkjoel

      Jo-I saw “2016″ and agree that EVERY American must see this film! I have another film that everyone must see before election time; “I WANT YOUR MONEY” by Ray Griggs is out on dvd. Go to Amazon.com or WND website to purchase. Go to Youtube and check out the trailer. These two films are this countrys only hope to wake people up!

  • Freedom is not Free

    Can any of you Libs tell me what the lies are in the movie? I went and saw the movie and it looked very well documented…Oh…and when you list the lies, please document why they are lies because you just listing what you feel are lies is not worthy of consideration.
    Have any of you Libs even gone to see the movie or are you just spouting talking points?

    • JC

      Don’t hold your breath waiting…

    • Paul Wells

      ….

    • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

      . .. … (coughs) … .. . .. … (continues waiting) … .. .

      • nc

        smoov, way back some 4 or more years ago prominent conservative talking heads and supporters like trump were telling us of the ABSOLUTE PROOF they had that Obama was not qualified under the Constitution to be President YET HE REIGNS ,EXCUSE ME, SERVES TODAY. ALLAH BE PRAISED! (I’m Methodist but that turns the repugnuts inside out!!)
        The courts are open, Justice awaits, and all that is missing is PROOF required by the Constitution! bush, the Crawford Cretin, appointed more Federal Judges than any other president and you people can’t find one who will accept you evidence to get to the Supreme Court! How weak is that case????
        2016 is a movie! The Blob was a movie! So was Dumb and Dumber!! and I almost forgot the one where Reagan took second billing to a chimp!!

        The bounce was in the 47% video and not a MADE FOR REPUGNUTS movie!

      • HH

        (YET HE REIGNS ,EXCUSE ME, SERVES TODAY. ALLAH BE PRAISED!)

        Good grief nc you’er deranged to say the least!!! Your quote is NOT Methodist it’s totally Islamic!!! Allah be praised? You need to move to Saudi Arabia and leave America to the real Christians!!!

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        What do you mean, “you people”…

        I’m not questioning whether he is a citizen or not. It has nothing to do with his policy choices and incompetence.

        Please try and stay relevant. Your wild aimless ranting, doesn’t serve you well at all.

        – Smoov

  • Gea

    I voted for Barak Hussein Obama in 2008 because he is such a great story teller and sounds so convincing. After observing him for 2 years I realized what a blunder I made, as did the Americans to let this man with totally un-American ideology into the center of power.

    Obama’s Marxist/Islamist agenda is destroying everything that Americans hold dear and is creating a basket case economy that leads toward tyranny, and abandoning US Constitution. Both Marxism and Islamism belong to the dung heap of history since wherever they are treied they lead to economic destruction and tyranny.

    Obama should be impeached for letting Muslim Brotherhood, which openly states its goal to infiltrate America to destroy Western civilization and establish Islam as a ruling religion, into the Whitehouse. Letting enemies of US and Western civilization and giving them $1.5 billions in Egypt to use for real war on women and Israel is an abomination and treason.

    Obama is directly and indirectly responsible for the gruesome murder (and sodomy) of the US Ambassador in Libya, both by helping those Islamists get into power and by preventing US marines carry live munition in Muslim countries. IF Qaddafi and Mubarak were in power, they would never let such Muslim mobs come even near any American diplomat. Not letting US marines carry a live munition in Arab countries, makes Americans sitting ducks. We should pull out ALL US embassies and consulates from sharia run countries and not let any of their diplomats into US and UN until they change their medieval evil systems which legalize human rights abuses.

    Obama grew up from age 6-10 with his Marxist/Muslim step-father and his Kenyan father was also Marxist Muslim. When he was shipped to Hawaii to live with his white grandparents, his grandfather hired as his tutor Frank Marshall Davis, who was a member of Hawaiian Communist party and who taught Obama for 8 years, until Barak Hussein went to college. Therefore, Obama is a true believer in both ideology of Islam and Marxism, which always promise justice3 and equality but lead to tyranny and oppression.

    Obama should be impeached and tried for treason.for letting Islamic terrorists subvert America and lying to Americans that Islam is a “peaceful religion”, which is opposite from truth. Now, Obama is very busy trying to subvert the US Constitution and its First Amendment under the guise of “respect for Islam”. Islam is a supremacist ideology similar to supremacist Nazi ideology and MUST reform or has no place in any society that respects liberty and human rights. Impeach Obama!..

    • Jo

      I agree with everything you stated. but for the life of me I cannot understand why those in Congress who CAN impeach this (what I call enemy of the state) man and bring him up on charges won’t do so. He has clearly stomped all over the Constitution and committed treason against the United States.

      • Paul Wells

        Jo, you’d think that…but they were unable to unseat Holder as head of the (in)justice department. If you think for one second that if they were to actually go after Obama, that he wouldn’t have them rubbed out (one way or another), then you are mistaken. I agree in a normal, right side up world that impeachment is what should happen. But this is good ole bare knuckle Chicago style politics in the White House now, and “we” can do anything we want, we answer to no one. Anyone in Congress who does stand up and demand impeachment proceedings will pay. Having said that, ANY TRUE PATRIOT AMONGST THEM would do it anyway, and suffer whatever consequence may come!

      • Shelia

        treason, you sound so stupid

      • Ted G

        I agree Jo but the real reason is that Obama has been very careful not let the public know his true philosophy. Its called plausible deniability. Which is why he is so deceptive about his history and has expended so much in hiding it.
        He has made statements about how he disagrees with the US Constitution but even that is not completely honest. His policies pursue actions directley against our founders design. But try finding a politician to challenge him on it.
        I agree that he is a traitor to his oath of office to support and defend the US Constitution.

        Most people that defend him are afraid of answering how their own philosophies align with our founding documents, we should all challenge on a Constitutional basis and ask them to explain themselves based on it.

        Try it they usually will obfuscate or attack, but raely will the yanswer directly. I have tried with both falshy and eddie and they never answered with anything other than attempted insult and attempts at further distraction.

    • http://PERSONALLIBERTY LOUIE

      IN THE 20th. CENTRUY WE HAD HITLER.
      TODAY IN 21st. WE NOW HAVE OBAMA.
      IF OBAMA DOES GO ARE FREEDOM WILL.

      • Shelia

        spell check and learn how to talk

      • JC

        Do you mean “learn how to speak” little tweety bird?

      • mark

        LOUIE,

        That you can compare Adolf Hitler to Barack Obama shows that you have less knowledge of human history than a fruit fly. It is obvious that you can’t spell or form correct sentences but the real wonder is that you can even write your own name. Admit it, someone at the home helped you write this cute little note of yours.

      • Bay0Wulf

        Errr shelia … having read a bunch of your posts here and basically finding myself disagreeing with them (especially where YOU call someone “stupid”) I find myself absolutely STUNNED to see YOU suggesting someone use spell check … !

        Have you read your posts? Do you proofread your posts before posting them?

        Your grammar is horrible, your vocabulary is poor, your usage is worse and your spelling is atrocious!

        And YOU are acting as a critic of others’ posts???

        Too Funny. You make yourself into a non-intelligent entity by your own posts!!

    • http://PERSONALLIBERTY LOUIE

      IN THE 20th. CENTRUY WE HAD HITLER.
      TODAY IN 21st. CENTRUY. WE HAVE OBAMA.
      OBAMA MUST GO OR OUR FREEDOM WILL..

      • Shelia

        Talk and speak is the same, JC

      • JC

        Do you mean “Talk and speak are the same thing” little tweety bird? You should try and “talk” in complete sentences.

    • HH

      It’s really good to see a “former” Obama supporter finally wake up! Welcome to the real world Gea, glad you stopped by! Now let’s work together to wake the rest of them up, whadda ya say?

      • Judy

        There’s hope, if everyone who voted for Obama would just stop for a moment and simply ask themselves if the country is better off today. The answer is so obvious, we are NOT! We owe more money than we can ever pay, our military is being shrunk, our nuclear weapons are being eliminated by Obama, our businesses have more regulations put on them every time they turn around, our oil rigs have moved to brazil so we can turn around and buy it from them, our housing market, thanks to Dod Frank and their stupid ideas, is in the tank, and so many other things Obama has screwed up I would have to write a novel to cover them all. Keep in mind the last two years of President Bushes presidency we had a democratic house and senate, and they stopped everything he tried to fix. His hands were tied. Plus Obama had a democratic house and senate his first two years in office and I didn’t see him try to fix the unemployment or any other issues we had when he had a chance,so what makes anyone believe that he’s going to fix it now, what a joke. On the letterman show he was asked if he was aware of our national debt, and what does he say, he doesn’t really know the amount, for god sake we all know how the hell can he not know.

    • eddie47d

      Much of what GEA said was his usual false notions but I do see he has a couple of fans. The Muslim religion has faults but to say that the Muslim Brotherhood is trying to take over America and establish Islamic law is absurd. Another thing we have been giving Egypt $3 billion each year for several decades so who is GEA trying to fool? Go back to your John Birch office and get your tall tales straightened out before your next ramble.

      • eddie ervin

        well i have to dis agree with you , remember obama to a lot of people being elected president of this country was absurd!!!!! if you know anything about islam it teaches that if you are not of that faith you are emeny and must be destroyed !!!!! educate yourself read just a little of their book koran

      • eddie47d

        Some say if you are not of the Christian faith you must be tortured and destroyed. You can’t take back history from either side.

      • hipshotpercusion

        eddie, have you heard about whats going on in Dearborn MI? Bite your tongue and remove your head from the nether region.

      • Ted G

        Come on eddie they have stated it themselves. “our presence in America should be jihad to destroy their misarable house from within until islam is the only religion”.

      • eddie47d

        That sounds like more he said she said. Was that you 3rd or fourth cousin that said that?

      • TML

        eddie ervin says, “if you know anything about islam it teaches that if you are not of that faith you are emeny and must be destroyed !!!!!”

        Ironically, the Bible ‘teaches’ the exact same thing, even killing your own family. Deuteronomy 13:6-9.

        Gea says, “…letting Muslim Brotherhood, which openly states its goal to infiltrate America to destroy Western civilization and establish Islam as a ruling religion…”

        eddie47d says, “…but to say that the Muslim Brotherhood is trying to take over America and establish Islamic law is absurd.”

        eddie ervin says, “…have you heard about whats going on in Dearborn MI? Bite your tongue and remove your head from the nether region.”

        I’ve not heard of any violence from the congregation in Dearborn, and simply being the largest congregation of Arab Muslims in the United States doesn’t constitute a connection to statements by the Muslim Brotherhood, as if to be some collective plan. I’m sure it is fears like that which led to the NDAA.

        Ted G says, “Come on eddie they have stated it themselves. “our presence in America should be jihad to destroy their misarable house from within until islam is the only religion”.”

        Interesting that I cannot find the exact quote you give here. I mostly just hear people regurgitate such statements without actually quoting them, and you seem to have done that… so I take such things with a grain of salt.

        However, even assuming they have said such a thing, I can’t see a statement such as this one, or even genuine desires to attempt it, as necessarily being driven by a desire to zealously follow religious doctrine. The same fears were expressed about communist Russia during the cold war. And for most of this country’s history we have not heard such calls against the U.S from Muslim countries… Why now? For over half a century we have ‘oppressed’ or intervened in Muslim nations to the point they have started rising up. And without the means of meeting the military strength of America head on; infiltration, ‘terrorist’ attacks, and ideas to destroy the U.S. from within, would be the only natural option, as even the Art of War dictates…. and not so much an adherence to religious doctrine. Yes, most Muslim’s are theocrats, in their ideas of Sharia law, making no separation of church and state, political or religious, and so an uprising can only be expected by acuter minds to be called Jihad (holy war) even though we ourselves can isolate the two in determining the true motivation behind the actions and statements of these people. Even those such as Hezbollah and Hamas… radical Islam groups we call terrorist organizations… were founded in response to political invasions of Lebanon, and Palestinian land by Israel. Which ironically, a majority of Christians support unconditionally [Israel] on religious basis.

        It might be interesting to note, that Iran also conducted demonstrations… supposedly against the video “Innocence of Muslims” created by an unknown ‘director’… and have not had an occupied Embassy since 1979. Guess what? Other Muslim countries are finally getting sick of American interventionist imperialist policies just they did, and stands to reason that they are trying to make a statement by following in Iran’s footsteps. After all, Iran has been a leader in that corner of the globe for over 2500 years.

        So what is the answer?
        While I disagree with several of Gea’s statements, I agree with several more of his/her conclusions.

        Gea says, “Western civilization and giving them $1.5 billions in Egypt…” – Stop foreign aid

        Gea says, “Obama is directly and indirectly responsible for the… …murder… …of the US Ambassador in Libya… …by preventing US marines carry live munition [sic] in Muslim countries” – Protect our own

        Gea says, “IF Qaddafi and Mubarak were in power, they would never let such Muslim mobs come even near any American diplomat.” – Stop intervening in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

        Gea says, “We should pull out ALL US embassies and consulates from sharia run countries… “ – Leave them the hell alone.

      • Gea

        Here is a direct quote from the Muslim Brotherhood long range plan of May 1991 written by Mohamed Akran Adlouni):

        “The process of settlement in a “Civlization Settl;ement Process” and their work in Ameica is a kind of grand JIhad in elminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers, so that is is eliminated and God’s religion (Islam) is made virtuous over all other religions.”

        This is Muslim Brotherhood long plan for America and they are now welcome to thier BIG Muslim Brother in the whtie house and given 1.5 billions to stage a war on women and Israel. The fist sharia law that Muslim Brotherhood passed in Egypt was to make it legal for a husband to have sex with his dead wife, up to 6 hours after she died.

        So this is Barak Hussein Obama and his respect and exaltation for Islam and Koran, helping these barbatians into Oval Office and helping CAIR and OIC white wash Islam while subverting US Constitution, and First Amandment (Free speech) in the name of respect for a pedophile, polygamist, rapst and murderer, Mohamed, who in any decent society would be executed for his crimes and not adulated as Muslim role model by 1.4 billions of Muslim around the world. Islam is INCOMPATIBLE with the US Constitution and with the Univesal Declaration of Human Rights and has no place in any society that respects liberty and human rights.

        The events in Arab countries where Muslim mobs murder Americans and anybody who defends truth just prove how “peaceful” Islam is. Shape up or ship out! We do not want sharia, with its legal pedophlia, polygamy, misogyny, murder and disdain for non-Musloims and stoning and beheading for “blaphemy” (i,e, telling the truth about Islam and Mohamed).
        :

      • Gea

        Political correctness had ruined the common sense of some decent Americans who believe lies that Barak Hussein Satoro Obama tells them and thus cannnot believe that somebody is out to get them (Muslims around the world who like to loot what others had built). 57 Muslim countries, most ruled by sharia and falling back into middle ages, send their Muslim brothers to Europe and Australia because the corruption and opression is rampant under sharia, where free speech is punished by beheading

        The politically correct Americans are the most easily fooled segment of US population because they project their own decency on corrrupt Muslim countries and keep grovelling to barbarians (Muslim mobs in the Arab world) for things that they abhore and aare not guilty of. The whtie guilt needs to be replaced with reality checks and people need to stop defending ideologies of Marxism and Islam that lead to tyranny and destruction of functional society where they were tried in the past.

        Barak Hussein Satoro Obama had done a great job on those politically corrrrect bleeding hearts, persuading them that he defends America , when in fact he should be tried for treason of American values.

      • Gea

        Obama Foreign Policy is destroying America from the Oval Office (http://www.cagle.com/news/obama-foreign-policy-2/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_content=feature&utm_campaign=092212)

        There is going to be a landslide in November, and Barak Hussein Obama will be sent packing to his Muslim half-brothers in Kenya, his Muslim Brothers in Egypt and/or his king in Saudi Arabia, where he can adore Mohamed and Islam, which he defends by trying to curb freedom of speech and US Constitution, to his heart extent.

        Barak Hussein Obama does not belong in America, although he is a great story teller, which is recommended by Mohamed (taqiyya–lies) when Muslims live in the countries that they do not (yet) control. True face of Islam, which is incompatible with the US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was shown clearly last week in Libya, when Muslim barbarians murdered US ,who could not be defended by US marines because the Obama’s administration had not allowed to carry and use live munition in Arab countries to defend Americans. Obama should resign and leave America.

      • Ted G

        to TML
        regarding the qoute I made please research the “Holy Land Trial”. The MB in collusion with CAIR and other orgs are pursuing the islamic agenda.
        The qoute came from documents entered into the record.

    • nc

      Gea, you say that you voted for Obama in 2008 but have SINCE found him to be a part of some islamist ideology! Where in he!! were you during the 2008 campaigns. Everything he is being accused of now he was accused of then and if you didn’t hear it then you must have lived in a sound proof bag! The problem with you people is that you are no closer to proving all the sick allegations against him today than then!! Even with absurd movies likE 2016! Where is the proof?? The same thing was done to the Clintons 15 years ago with pages and pages of ALLEGATIONS OF SERIOUS CRIMES! How many have been proved to this day???NOT A FREAKING ONE!
      YOUR PROBLEM WITH OBAMA IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM ARE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE!! FOR WHOM AND WHAT?? MITT ROMNEY AND A FAILED REPUBLICAN PLATFORM???? FROM THE LATEST POLLS IT SEEMS THAT AMERICAN INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS AREN’T JUMPING FOR JOY AT THAT CHOICE!! THIS ELECTION WAS ROMNEY’S TO LOSE AND HE IS TRYING HIS BEST TO DO IT! He can’t even go to England and
      Israel without pi$$ing the people off! DUH!

      I don’t think not so rich Americans were impressed when ROMNEY was caught on video saying his audience should forget the poorer 47% of Americans!! AND GUESS WHO CHEERED HIM??? PEOPLE PAYING $50,000.00 A PLATE TO HEAR HIM!!! THAT IS NOT MIIDDLE AMERICA!
      I can’t wait for the debates when Romney is asked what his tax records would show HE, PERSONALLY, would save from a tax plan that severely cuts capital gains! And he has to tell them it is none of their business what his tax records would show!! LOOK FOR ANOTHER “SLIGHT” BUMP FOR OBAMA! LIKE MAYBE 50 POINTS AND LIGHTS OUT FOR THE REPUBLICANS! AMERICANS AIN’T GOING TO STAND FOR NOT KNOWING THAT ANSWER!!

      I’M THINKING YOU DIDN’T COME CLOSE TO VOTING FOR OABAM IN 2008 AND NEITHER DID 95% OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE! ALL OF YOU OBAMA HATERS ARE JUST PREACHING TO THE CHOIR! REAL AMERICA IS OUT THERE CONCERNED BUT NOT PARANOID ABOUT UNPROVED ALLEGATION AND “CONSPIRACIES”

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Lighten up on Gea…

        Like lots of people, they were hoping for better, and whatever ya wanna say about Obama, at the time, he was real good at giving a rousing speech.

        Problem Obama has this time around, is we have had 4 years of his speeches, and they have lost their luster.

        Gea, since then, has watched closely (while most, haven’t), and from what Gea has seen, has decided that this isn’t the man Gea thought he was, and isn’t supporting him this time around.

        That, alone, is worthy of a measure of respect.

        Most, don’t seem to be able to learn from their mistakes, much less, openly admit them to the public.

        Gea, is one face, of a much larger group of people, who feel similarly betrayed.

        They are to be welcomed to the debate, and treated with dignity.

        – Smoov

      • HH

        Gea woke up nc why don’t you?

        BTW, welcome to the real world Gea!!! nc is still living in the fantasy world of Obama the king and has no clue, and is probably being paid by Obama to spout his/her crap around the internet!!!

        I’m sure you can tell that nc wasn’t very happy that you woke up to the REAL Obama by all the YELLING he/she did in reply to your post!!!

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        I could swear, that I was feeling a little of nc’s spittle hitting my face while I was reading his tirade… .. .

        – Smoov

      • HH

        Sorry Smoov, it’s always good to see a patriot wake up from their slumber to see the real Obama! Personally I hope you have to swim in it, and if that’s what it takes to defeat Obama send some my way!!!

    • nc

      gea, you say Obama is responsible for the Ambassodor’s death because the soldiers were not allowed to have ammunition in their guns! In that case Reagan is responsible for the death of of the 240+ American military in Lebanon during his admisnistration! I read just this week that the sentries guarding the sleeping soldiers had no clips in their weapons or bullets in the chambers by orders of the military under the Command of Ronald Reagan, Commander-in-Chief, when a terrorist drove a truck bomb through the front door of the barracks! Sounds like a common practice!!

  • cawmun cents

    Wouldnt it have been much easier to have run a decent candidate against Otrauma?
    But what do I know?
    Apparently very little…..
    Cheers!
    -CC,

    • deerinwater

      Well, you know a worthy candidate ~

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Henrietta Harris

    what have you people been looking at for the last 4 years, i have been watching the President fight with Congress or every turn, the ones who are responding to this movie remember you are romney’s 47%.

    • Paul Wells

      EXCUSE ME, Henrietta Harris, but i *PAY* my taxes so others can mooch, thank you very much. I guess I’m part of the 53%!

      • Shelia

        I work and pay taxes to Paul, so I guess I am not the 47%, and yes I am voting for Obama

      • http://mine d:-)

        shelia, do you pay INCOME TAXES? if so then you are part of the 53%ers. If you listened to romney’s detracters video, he was specifically talking about income tax payers, or the 47% of people that don’t pay income tax because their income is too low/ obama supporters.

    • Shelia

      lol yes you are right

      • Bay0Wulf

        As a side note … a lot of people seem to think they pay “Federal Income Taxes” who, in fact, DO NOT. Yes, you may have those taxes taken from each of your paychecks BUT come time to file, many of you get back every dime and many get back even more than they “contributed” through various credits. I ma not trying to indicate that taking the credits is somehow “wrong” just pointing out that your overall math might be wrong.

        Deductions for various other items do not count as “taxes” even if that’s what they have seemingly been converted into.

        Now, when you consider how much you get back versus how much you pay in … are you REALLY a “tax payer”?

    • eddie47d

      Remember Romney’s 47% include many who do work or have worked in the past. Social Security recipients,Medicare,Medicaid, farm aid,Military personel and any government worker. If you are on the government “dole” in any form you are the enemy of the right.

      • Gea

        Obama had accelerated the march of US to dysfunctionality, which had started as a consequence of civil rights movevments and had abandoned Jedeo/Christian values of family and community to help their members become functional adults rather then sluyggards. When you have 45% of white babies and 75% of black babies born our of wedlock, you create generations of people who have no role models how to be productive, since dole depends on giving women money based on how many babies they make out of wedlock. It is absurd to demand that I pay for the brood some young women have from one night stands. We have allowed creationg of street urchans who become criminals since they parents were not able of willing to work and teach them how to do something constructive so they turn to alcohol, drugs and sex, and damand entitlements.

        I am sick and tired of US president promoting this dysfucntional marxism of punishing people who are productive to take care of sluggards and fornicators. If people want ot have children they shyould take care of them and not expect their neighbors to take care of those children and taxpayers to pay for the results of one-night stands of highshcool dropouts and Medicare..

        Even more dangerous is Barak Hussein Obama promoting supremacist ideology of Islam and helping white wash it as a “peaceful religion”. Last week events clearly show how “peaceful” Islam is. This nasty ideolopgy of hate lead to basket case econmies since honesty and free speech are called blasphemy. In any decent society, a pedophile, polyugamist and murderer that Mohamed was would be executed and/or sent away for life, for his pedophila, rapes, polygamiy and multiple murders and not emulated as a role model as Muslims do. Neither Marxism or Islamism, both promoted by Obama are compatible with Western civilzation and they create basket case economies and tyrannies.

      • Judy

        Can’t really count Social security people because guess what we do pay taxes on our social security. It’s considered income just like any other income, isn’t that just grand, a tax we paid all these years and now we pay taxes on the taxes

      • Ted G

        Sure eddie lets just prop up another false meme right. Do you have any original thoughts?

      • eddie47d

        SS is included in the 47% figure by Romney and has even been used by other Conservatives on this site in previous years.

      • Karolyn

        GEA – So, you would have all these children born out of wedlock suffer for the sins of their parents. You would have our streets full of homeless families. What exactly do you propose? Sterilizatino? Oh, no, that’s a Nazi tactic. Really. What would your reedy be?

      • JC

        eddie47d says:
        September 21, 2012 at 11:02 am
        SS is included in the 47% figure by Romney and has even been used by other Conservatives on this site in previous years.

        Lying sack of s–t…prove it.

      • Ted G

        Eddie the false meme is that anyone on the “Dole of any kind” as you put is the enemy of the right!
        I thought it was pretty clear, but as usual you did not understand and respondd with another misdirect again. Not so cool for someone who throws bombs about others reading comprehension.

    • http://mine d:-)

      Watch it now, I pay income taxes, in the realm of 20k a year, so I saw the movie, and I believe the country is in for some real problems IF O is re-elected, so if your done trolling, run along and keep your opinion to yourself, thanks. PROUD 53%er !!!

    • http://personaliberty.com Travis

      Obama had the Congress and Senate for his first two years and could have instituted the reform to get the economy moving but instead he chose the stim plan that only benefited the establishment that got him elected to begin with. His biggest accomplishment is getting gays to openly serve in the military. No wonder he doesn’t want the military to get the three extra days to cast their ballot. People don’t seem to realize if the US defaults their won’t be any more loans to get from other countries and the only income will be the taxpayers. Hmm I’m guessing the taxes will shoot up and the DOD will see such drastic cuts that even Mexico could walk right in an occupy.

      • eddie47d

        That is foolish talk Travis. We have enough weapons to destroy most countries on earth. We have been the number one super power for a few decades now so how much is enough for you?

  • http://fb.com charles

    You know……I subscribed because this periodical claimed to be a libertarian publishing. Wow, what deceivers. Not one solid article about OUR candidate Gov Gary Johnson. These guys are in the tank for Romney, a mormon, no better than a muslim.

    • JC

      Are you suggesting that Libertarians are supposed to be anti-Mormon?
      Let me tell you something about Libertarians…the rights we want for ourselves are rights we want extended to “everybody” and subject to the same code of justice and morality.
      If you are truly a Libertarian, you don’t get to pick and choose which people get which rights.

      • http://fb.com charles

        Well, they sure seem antimuslim. And if we’re Christians we are told that whoever preaches another Gospel, ie Mormons or Muslim, let them be accursed. We have our chance at showing the world that we can stand against the 2 party system which enslaves us. But……the neocon slavemasters have taken the movement hostage, and like sheep most of us continue to follow them into destruction. Gary Johnson for President 2012.

      • JC

        Anti Muslim? How about anti murderer? How about anti terrorist?
        I don’t think this is about religion. It’s about immoral barbarians killing us at every opportunity. It’s “them” that are doing it under the guidance of “Allah”. And if that’s how “they” want to identify “themselves” then so be it…

      • eddie47d

        Don’t be such a simpleton JC. We went into Muslim lands and bought off the leadership whom suppressed their people. Then we armed these nations for war and the wars killed thousands. The people finally had enough from their local masters and their American masters and struck back. The Middle East today is about revenge and payback and both sides are now doing a mighty fine job of stoking the fires.

      • JC

        None of that is news eduardo…it simply wasn’t the subject at hand.

      • eddie47d

        Then why did you make it so in your 8:30 comments?

      • JC

        Because of what I see on the 6 o clock news dumbass!
        They “are” a bunch of murderers and terrorists.

      • eddie47d

        Come on JC at least follow your own train of thought from your original comment.

      • JC

        Kamrade Eduardo, you Goose Stepping America Hating Liberal Moron… there is NO comparison between Mormons and Muslims if that’s what you’re trying to put forward. Mormons, whether you like their idea of religion or not, aren’t advocating our death. Muslims, are 7th century dung kicking barbarians who riot and kill at the drop of a het because of some stupid film and I would not call what they represent a religion of any kind….so stick your twisted analysis.

      • DaveH

        I doubt it was the film, JC. The United States Leaders and Great Britain Leaders have been meddling in the Middle East since the Great War. You need to read this and learn just a small part of what’s been going on with our Imperialist Leaders and their phony wars:
        http://library.mises.org/books/John%20V%20Denson/A%20Century%20of%20War%20Lincoln,%20Wilson%20and%20Roosevelt.pdf

        I’m afraid that Eddie is right on this one.

    • Dorothy

      Gary Johnson was a GREAT Governor…..but we need to defeat Obama NOW…..or Gary won’t have an opportunity to run in future elections! There won’t be any!!!!

      • http://fb.com charles

        By defeating Romney we get a default win over Obama.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        We need to defeat BOTH of the Progressives…

        Playing their game, and picking one Progressive over the other Progressive, is NEVER going to work.

        Get off the bleachers and get in the game, people.

        – Smoov

      • DaveH

        Dorothy,
        If I had a dollar for every time I heard somebody over the last 40 years claim that we couldn’t afford NOT to vote for the Lesser of Two Evils (which is still just evil), I would be a rich man.

    • Jo

      Charles you couldn’t be more wrong…you need to educate yourself on the Mormon religion…..not the myths that are out there.

      • http://fb.com charles

        Kolob. god’s on earth. Wealth=righteousness. Golden plates. Talking lizards. Same serpent, different day.

      • Gea

        I have read the Book of Mormon from cover to cover and went to 3 church meetings and had befriedned a Mormon couple to learn more about our next President Rumney’s religion. I had found nothing objectionable since they try to educate better human beings, in contrast to Islam which is promoted by BIG Muslim Brother in the White house. Islam is a supremacist ideology similar to supremacist Nazi ideology, including delusional Jew hatred. Read Koran and Hadith and see for yourself, just as reading Mein Kampf gve ideas what Hitler had in mind for Germany. Islam is even worse, because it promotes pedophilia, poygamy, misogyny and murder for Allahu Akbar.

        This supremacist ideology of Islam should be REDORMED and not be white wahsed, since it IS INCOPARIBLE with the US Constitution and with the Univcersal Declaration of Human Rights, Having BIG Muslims Brfother in the White house who is also a Marxist just as his father from Kenya and his step-father in Indonesia were, is a sure way to predition for America. Barak Hussein Obama should be tried for treason of American values and American citizens.

      • deerinwater

        Gea says: ( he knows something about Mormons)

        Two sentences about Mormons and two paragraphs about Islam. Leaving me to guess he knows more about Islam.

        A Mormon has never gave me any trouble personally, can’t say the same about a Muslim.

    • Karolyn

      Bob Livingston has responded to this in saying that he has never said he was a libertarian but is a conservative.

      • Shelia

        who cares

    • Lynnette

      Charlie, before you or any one else want to start throwing rocks at Mormonism, you might want to truly investigate it’s history, beliefs and practices. Like any group, you have offshoots that cling to the fundamentals and give the mainstream a bad name. You have that with any religion whether it be Muslim, Christian, Judaism, etc. At the core the LDS church believes in working together for the good of the whole. They are business men, Capitalists, which is what our county believes in whole heartedly. Although started by the con man, Joseph Smith, it was made into much more by Brigham Young, an intelligent forward looking engineer. Early mormonism became polygamist because of the male to female ratio of those that survived the trek to Utah. Brigham Young saw that ALL needed to be cared for, so he kept Joe Smith’s idea and put it to good use. When the USA decided this practice was unethical, they stopped except for those nasty little offshoots. Mormons believe in the BEEHIVE concept. They believe in education and children. All things AMERICAN is what they believe….AND…yes, they ARE CHRISTIAN. They believe in peace and if called to war to protect OUR ideals, they will go. They believe in community and it’s health. If anything, they are our own home grown brand of Christianity. When you look at them, you see America, so if you think they are just like the Muslims, what does that say about us?

    • Judy

      When is the last time a Morman beheaded anyone, blew up a building, murdered his wife or daughters, killed an ambassador, and who knows what else. Comparing the two shows how crazy you’re thinking is.

  • Globestar

    Wow, you actually found time to go to a movie theatre? I am SO envious! I’m sure the vast majority of Americans feel the same! Good for you! Now get a job…

  • Frank Boatwright

    Some of you people are living proof that Liberalism really does rot your Brain.Obamas only accomplishment is he has unseated Jimmy Carter as the WORST President EVER!!!

    • http://Yahoo.com Art Burg

      hey budy he is Jimmy Carter on steriods,We need to fire his ass on november.

    • deerinwater

      Isn’t it wonderful that we can address complex problems is such a simple matter and lay all the fault and blame at a single doorstep and feel better while nothing has actually changed?

    • eddie47d

      Frank: Would that be like saying Bush proved that Conservatism is a mental disease? Achieve their wealth anyway they can even if the country fails under the weight of Wall Street greed. We can both ramp up these foolish attacks if you care to dance.

      • deerinwater

        Seems Frank enjoys making personal attack and making sweeping general erroneous claims and then runs off and hides somewhere.

      • Frank Kahn

        Once again you attempt to demean me with unsubstantiated claims. I do not make sweeping claims nor do I run and hide. If I was slow to answer one of your posts it is because I dont sit here 24/7 waiting for the instant they appear. Also none of your replies to my post was directed at me by “in response to Frank” So I have to read everyone verbatum to know who you are responding to. Also I have seen another Frank posting here so I am not always sure if responses are to me. So with this post I will add my last name.

      • Frank Kahn

        For some reason I missed this post before.

        If you want to check all posts I have made in the last two months on this blog site, you will find that I am not associated with anyone calling liberalism a mental disease.

        If you feel my description of your postings depicting you as a person who hates MY country then say so. If you do then I can either ask for support from others on the site or do a search for all eddie47d posts and cut and past them into a long litany of hate speach about our government.

        I wont try to quote you here since paraphrasing will suffice for now. You are always saying that we (the US government) is the cause of all the hatred of Muslims towards us. You say that we (the US government) spend billions of dollars just to invade and conquor other nations. You say that all Republicans are money hungry leaches that want to steal all our money. You claim that all conservatives want to take away all our freedoms and make us live according to their personal rules. You say that it was the film makers fault that our ambasador was killed in Libya (an attack on free speech).

        You want to ramp it up? Okay but I demand that there be rules of engagement. Only facts can be used, no opinions and no prevarication. The arguement(s) must be handled as seperate items for proof or dispute. No name calling is allowed, I will not call you a moron until or unless you besmirch my name.

        I have listed 5 items for starters and, I am prepared to refute your assumptions/opinions on all accounts if you want to debate.

  • Deerinwater

    Ha ha ha ! funny! People love to be entertained! Check out “Fair Game” or something more deep and at the very heart of the peoples desire to be entertained and the direct link it plays to the whims of political power, “Anonymous” it is a must see for anyone that thinks they might know the truth about power and politics.

    http://youtu.be/2PaliLAQT8k

  • http://Yahoo william smith

    If you research this in this movie , it’s true of course the white house says it’s not true , look what Obama is surround with Axelrod /Jarret who are communist , The oilfield is in Brazil and not here , he aids the Muslims , shutouts our main alli Israel .

    • Bev

      Yes you better watch this guy like a hawk. He says one thing and then does another. He’s a con man, a flim flam man, a push to talk, a snake oil salesman, he’s whatever you want him to be. A leader he is not.
      I read an article last night that said Grandma Robinson was bragging about the family moving to Hawaii. God I hope so. I feel sorry for his girls.

      • eddie47d

        Bev hit the nail on the head in describing Romney. The king of flip flopping and Cobra oil!

      • momo

        @eddie Obama flip flops also, only he calls it evolving.

      • deerinwater

        Everyday? ~ I don’t think so. There nothing wrong with changing your position but it should not be dependent on the weather and which state you are in.

  • macawma

    How can you say these things that are DOCUMENTED facts shown in the movie are lies? Still, the liberals continue to wear blinders when it comes to their messiah. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE

    • deerinwater

      Because they are?

      • Vigilant

        Upon what basis do you make that question? Have you seen the movie?

      • JC

        Have you researched anything that you doubted?

      • deerinwater

        It was a rhetorical question. note the question mark? While I’m not convinced of any diabolical evil Obama plan to destroy the nation and turn it over to a bunch of goat abusers. Any “documentation” that supports so a claim is questionable and could not fair the naked light of day and something only a fearful borne again Christian bigoted zealot would swallow.

        It’s The anti-Christ ! It’s foretold ! It’s true! It’s true! Oh Dear! We are doomed! But Mitt can save us! We must vote for him!!!! ~ Too funny.

        Why not get real and vote your convictions instead of allowing the GOP to paint you in a corner and install yet another hand puppet that allows them to pillage and plunder the wealth of the nation and the world at their leisure with tax payer dollars and the blood of our young?

        Let these sandniqqers have their oil and learn to depend less on them and more on friendly nations and technology that the 21 Century offers. There is much to be done as we fade away from combustion to do our heavy lifting. Just as the draft animal was phased out over the course of 75 years so to shall be the controlled explosions of fossil fuels.

        We only need to get from here to there without selling the farm and hocking the family jewels and loose sight of our future.

      • JC

        Deerinwater, that was no answer at all..
        Since you say that it is questionable…have you researched any of your questions?
        Or are you happy enough with calling it questionable?

      • Deerinwater

        Well Sir, ~ put it this way, when I read something that reads like this ” “America has more because America has stolen this wealth from others,” Dinesh said Obama believes. “And America must now pay it back.” In Obama’s America: Unmaking the American Dream, D’Souza explains what this means”

        I am wondering who t’hell Dinesh and D”Souza are and what would we do without such people with superpowers to explain things and offer us such insights!

        I looked him up! He’s a child! Born into the privileged class in Bombay India and had a stay at home mother. Didn’t get to American until 1978 as an exchange student and since developed into a very prolific conservative “wordsmith” in many circles.

        I guess you know, India is a nation of basically just two class of citizens ~ so, ~~~ sure, you bet! he’s a crystal ball toting conservative or a slum dog.

        So, we’ve got an academic India Indian conservative American since 1978 feed us knowledge and filling our minds with documented smoke and mirrors about our sitting US president and it’s great to be so well informed?

        Well, I must see this movie!

      • JC

        You probably should see the movie. I’d suggest bringing a notebook so you can remember and check anything that seems contrived. I’ve personally done a ton of research on the Kenyan Imposter (trying to keep an open mind) and all I’ve found points to his being a globalist anti-American manchurian candidate. Which is why I’m decidedly anti-Obama. I’ll leave it to you to satisfy any curiosity you have,

        Be Well

    • Joe LoBianco

      3 Words- Ignorance is Bliss…….Why look at the obvious when the lies are so beautiful and happy. Our ignorance to the reality of what is happening will lead to our fall just like Rome and other historical societies.

  • Alex

    “Fahrenheit 911″ didn’t derail Bush the Lesser’s occupation of the White House, and this movie from an idiot writer will not see the end of the Obama Administration.

    You can sit in the front row, bring all your friends, eat popcorn and candy and stomp your feet and even throw things at the screen—-won’t matter: Mitt Romney is toast…

    • Jody

      “Fahrenheit 911″ didn’t derail Bush”

      That’s because it was a Michael Moore movie. Not like it was credible.

      • deerinwater

        No, I guess not ~ but it didn’t do him a lot of good either. Before it’s over maybe the Rise & Fall of Mitt will make him a “star”.

      • JC

        Exactly right. Moore is a socialist opportunist who worked almost entirely on “spin”.

      • eddie47d

        Could it be that D’Sousa is a right wing star (opportunist) and laid out his own “spin”? Another way to look at this is that D’Sousa like some who make it out of poverty think that everyone else can make it too. Okay that is a fine concept but D’Sousa like so many on the right who have made it look down on those who haven’t and treat them like useless baggage. He seems to be saying that poor Indians like living in the India “ghetto’s” and are too lazy to work their way up. The very same attitude that the extreme right has on their fellow “baggage” err… Americans. Both Obama and D’Sousa have known poverty and have seen the misery of others and each have made it to the top. The difference is that Obama hasn’t forgotten his roots and works tirelessly to lift others up. He understands that it takes much effort to dig out of some holes whether from an individual perspective or a national perspective. All any person wants in life is to make it on their own and if they can’t they would appreciate a hand up so they don’t remain a burden. The key is to know when a person is benefiting from outside help and when he remains a burden (abusing his blessings). I believe the Democrats want to give too much help and the Republicans don’t want to give any at all. I believe Bill Clinton got that part right yet both Obama and Romney have work to do in truely giving Americans equal opportunity.

      • Sirian

        Jody,
        Isn’t it rather funny that Michael Moore is robustly set in his socialistic ideology but enjoys making his millions in a capitalistic society? Nevermind, his followers, the useful idiots can’t see the difference anyway.

      • deerinwater

        Well, one must remember that Michael Moore is a child and product of “The Motor City” and not be so doggone personal about describing him. ~ He could have been from a Wisconsin dairy farm community and imparted with the struggle of the dairy farmer and trust me ~ it’s no bed of roses either.

        We are all products of what we seen, done, heard and said, harboring notions of what is fair and what is not fair, of what is seen as good and what is bad.

        W and the Bush family have done well for themselves here in America and accepted title and lofty positions ~ this makes these office holder fair game just as you seem to enjoy kicking Obama around today.

        So what’s your beef with descent? What is it about the Bill of Right that you don’t approve of?

        Flaming is what you seem to take pleasure in ~ so what would you not expect to receive incoming fire?

        I don’t really know how much of Fahrenheit 9-11 was true or false, but some unflattering connections and relationships were exposed.

        Have any of you ever visited a Presidential Library? It’s an all day experience attempting to take one in. Lots to seen and read, ~ things ~ you would never know about otherwise.

        Being the president of the United States, they are showed with gifts and favors from leaders of nations, to leaders of industry , arts and crafts from all over the world, ~ you will see the finest of everything that this world has to offer on display.

        The Bush’s have done their share of gallivanting the globe.

    • Shelia

      LOL you are right Alex

  • katrn

    delusional horse hockey. big deal, obama doesn’t want the USA to control the world and bankrupt our economy. what’s wrong with that?

    • Paul Wells

      The fact that you honestly ask that question, shows me what’s wrong with America! Go ahead, move to a socialist country and see what that’s like. You have no clue!

    • Butch

      Whats wrong w/ bankrupting our economy???? Ask yrself that when yr standing in a bread line after the dollar crashes, sheeple idiot.

    • Vigilant

      katrn, you’re right. Obama “doesn’t want the USA to control the world,” he wants the world to control the USA.

    • eddie47d

      So Paul Wells is that your objective “for America to control the world”. You seem to be implying that. The only purpose of any country is to protect its borders and its own sovereignty. Colonialism,expansionism,militarism,interventionism are seldom noble causes yet you seem to be defending those concepts. That is like saying we have a right to have over a thousand military basis all over the world or we can start wars whenever we want for we have the power. It didn’t work for Russia,It didn’t work for Germany and it didn’t work for Britain. Katrn’s comment was rather clear yet you mocked her so maybe you are America’s problem and should move.

      • Paul Wells

        eddie47d, I have some rather complex ideas about America’s place in the world. I do not think we should be imperialists, and meddle in other countries affairs. However, the world has become a dangerous place. It behooves us to at least keep our finger on the pulse of what’s going on in the world, as it does ultimately affect us. I agree that we have been too aggressive in the past about stomping into foreign countries, and meddling about. But I also am smart enough to know isolationism is a dangerous road to go down. What I want is for America to remain a superpower, and Obama’s goal is to weaken us to the point that we’ll simply be a country at the table of the New World Government. We’ll lose our ability to govern ourselves, but instead will be governed by people at the NWO’s table. Is that REALLY what you want?

      • eric1968

        America does not now,nor ever has controlled the world.But,with our innovative thinking and the fact we are FREE here,many great thinkers have come from this country,and many inventions that have benefited all have come from a country that is merely a little over 200 years old.We have bases,yes,but you take away any thing more from America and guess what superpower is still left,China,you idiots.They have been very patient watching as one by one,the people and stupid politicians have ruined once great nations.We let Obama ruin America,start learning chinese.your gonna need to.If you look at history,it was right after the Civil War,when one politician was able to condemn an innocent person and get away with it,that beginning of the people’s control over government started coming to an end.After WWII,slowly,but surely,we let go of everything that up to that point,had made us a very strong nation.Did we get scared from what Hitler did?Scared one man could do that to even us,so we got too soft?I don’t know.But,I do know our flaf used to stand for freedom,freedom to be who ever you wanted to be.What was it Lincoln said..”a house divided cannot stand….”Why are we letting it happen again?if Obama thinks for one minute he can show that flag and then if he gets in,change a flag,he can forget about me ever pledging allegiance to it,but I will to stars and stripes.I have not seen this movie,but have seen what Obama has done.he is a good talker,that’s it!!!And before anyone comments,this post is talking about many different topics,but I use them for you to start looking at just when and how we allowed our nation to grow soft.To remain strong,any nation needs their military to be strong,as well as their economy.For loyal citizens,you must treat them fairly,or a revolution will happen.Anytime you decide to change what a nation stands for and work for it’s decline,you are asking for trouble,so if this idiot does get elected and America does indeed collapse,I will join the fight,as my forefather’s did in 1776,to restore us once again.I am proud to be an American,but can’t stand what ignorance has done to our once proud nation.

      • HH

        A little choppy in your oration there eric1968 but I got it and I’m with ya!!!

      • eddie47d

        You seem to be a patriotic fella Eric but you fall into the same historic reasoning that get so many other countries into trouble. We are not defended America if we are preemptively attacking other nations. We can have a strong national defense without poking around for new wars to fight. The Russians did that and the Romans did that and neither were happy with what they had. They wanted more and took over other countries to achieve their goals and they both eventually failed. Their strong offensive military became their albatross and their eventual demise as a super power. The Chinese are not obsessed with killing Muslims and the Muslims are not blowing up their office buildings.The Chinese are moving into the world through capitalism and we Americans have resorted to militarism. The change is clear and we aren’t the ones winning.

      • Frank

        To believe in the desire to have the ability to defend yourself or your country is a noble cause. It does not translate into MIGHT is RIGHT in the minds of moral people. To say we want to keep our country safe is in no way advocating colonialism in the world. Whether you believe or even realise it, your postings on this site indicate a vast hatred for MY country. You have the right to your own personal opinion but that does not give you the authority to condem us patriotic citizens as being some type of moronic sub-human waste. Your opinion (not supported by facts and rational logic) does not supercede my opinions (resulting from research and personal experience).

        I will not attempt to sway your opinion with facts because you dont give me the respect of providing me with facts that support your radical views. Instead you state things out of context and / or pull obscure incidents out of a greater set of circumstances to foster hatred of MY country.

        Has our government done bad and / or evil things in the past, YES. The fire bombing of Dresden Germany was a war crime but it does not negate the fact that we were forced into WWII by the attack on Pearl Harbor. Nor does it negate the fact that we were fighting against a man who had world conquest in his mind. The massacre on the killing road out of Kuait was a war crime. Did it negate our defense of Kuait from the invading army of Iraq, NO. The attempted occupation of Kuait by Iraq was unacceptable. Do these two war crimes make me angry, YES. Do they make MY country evil, NO.

        You might argue, as some others do here, that we should keep our noses out of the business of other countries. Well yes and no, we should not interfer with other countries in an effort to put our choice of government into power. We should also not be isolationist and allow evil acts perpetrated against other nations to go unanswered.

        So, Eddie, I dissagree with many things the government of MY country does. That however, does not make me hate MY country or its founding principles. It simply means that we must do everything in our power to eliminate our governments abuse of power.

        Do a reality check on your BELIEFS when it comes to Obama. He has not done what he promised. His economic ideas are laughable (in a morbid way) when it comes to restoring or even helping our situation. The movie, which you have not seen, “Obamas America 2016″ is based on Obama’s books. It is therefor based on FACTS in so much as Obama’s own book can be believed to be fact. Obama is a Muslim, this is concluded by his statement of “My Muslim faith” from a publicised interview with him. He used the Qua’ran to be sworn in as senator. He supports the nation of Islam against Israel. He has Muslim Brotherhood advisors. He has said that the U.S. is not a Christian nation. He is not a natural born American citizen. His grandmother said she was present at his birth in Kenya. His wife refered to Kenya as his home country. His biography for the sale of his book said he is Kenyan.

        Finaly, I have deliberately used the term MY country here, not in an attempt to claim sole ownership. I have used it in reference to you because your postings are so radical that the country you are speaking of is not the same as the one I live in.

      • HH

        Very very well said Frank, problem is eddie47dunce is a moron blinded by Obamahype! There is NO hope for him!!!

      • Deerinwater

        Quote; ” The fire bombing of Dresden Germany was a war crime but it does not negate the fact that we were forced into WWII by the attack on Pearl Harbor.”

        Hmm,? we was justified fire bombing a Germany civilian population because the Japanese bombed at US shipyard?

        Okay! I got it! ???? because they were pals???

        I think staying on message serve us better then personal attacks on Frank.

        I believe Eddie 47d makes a valid point. This excessive 5 to 1 US spending on the military in a place and time in history we don’t take slaves, carry off their women and take their gold and treasures just is not profitable anymore. Something needs to change!

      • Frank

        NO, Deerinwater, you did not get it because that is not what I said. I said that the firebombing of Dresdin was a war crime. I did not attempt to justify it because of the Japanese. I merely pointed out that the despicable act did not negate the fact that the war effort was justifiable. It is never justifiable to commit crimes against humanity just because you think you need to do it. Were the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshema war crimes, YES. If we really needed to demonstrate the power of the weapon to force surrender they could have been used on military targets, possibly on the Japanese naval fleet. Or even better just detonated a mile up in the atmosphere 100 miles off shore of Japan. The, now three, examples I have given of the abuse of power shows how poor decissions happen in governments no matter how good their intentions might be.

        As to military expenditures, I agree that we spend too much money on high tech weapons. Most of our weapons are not intended for defense but rather for offense. Multi-million dollar cruise missiles will never be valuable in defense other than a possible deterent to attack. However, reducing expenditures on our military needs to be done in a slow and reasonable manner. Simply cutting programs is not always the best solution.

        I mostly object to eddie’s posts because he uses extreme radical posturing to try and get a point across. If he would stop repeating his postulate that we are demonic in our attempts to rule the world it would help.

      • Frank

        PS. dont try to make me sound ignorant about japan and germany either. Hitler did not approve of nor was he happy that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor brought us into the war.

      • Steve

        Eddie,

        I totally agree with the premises that we are in too many places around the world. I think we need to see it the way it is.
        Politically we have fallen into the web as a country. Because of our strength we are now acting as the world police. This is what we do for the UN and I am sure some of the people in the know have personal interests in play around the world. The one world movement is an aggregate of most of those people. Either wittingly or un-wittingly they go along. We have just been delegated to keep the balance in the world, sometimes it is just our presence that does that. And sometimes it is our bombs. No one like’s that.

        That said, history has proven that there will always be someone out there that is more aggressive and take power where they can. E need only to look to world was 2 as an example. Over all I think it must be a balanced thing that must be in place for our own well being..

        I do not agree with us funding the police department for the rest of the world. I also do not agree we should let them attack us on our shores and if they do we should hit without limits as hard and fast as possible. Where that balance is may be hard to define. 9-11 crossed the line for sure.

        Politically we are shills in a one world game; any little thing is an excuse to make a law and destroy us from within and takes our rights from us. Homeland security has proven that as well.

        For example, apparently with your support Bama has now put in place a health care law which will not do anything but take more of your freedoms and more of your money and decrease your levels of health care.

        It is interesting that he promised he would not increase taxes on anyone who is not making over 250k time and time again. Well he lied flat out. Everyone in this country will see a tax increase starting in 2013 as a result of this action. The Supreme Court verified it was a tax increase. Most democrats will think the Next president did that to us because it will take effect in the next term.

        My question to those die hard supporters of Bama is this. DID HE LIE TO YOU OR NOT? The answer is absolutely he did, and because he did, how now can you trust him? For sure you will not be better off because of this bill. And it is in fact all on the Democrats who controlled the Congress and Senate and Presidency at the time.

    • Ricksmom

      Typical of the Obama masses: See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil of Obama.
      Let us all pray: Obama is great, Obama is good, let us thank the great Obama for our food. It is so pathetic how easily the ignorant are led to the slaughter.

    • Nobody’s Fool

      Your question reveals your stupidity, you leftwing idiot. To quote you: “delusional horse hockey. big deal, obama doesn’t want the USA to control the world and bankrupt our economy. what’s wrong with that?” Too bad you can’t go live in one of those third world countries that oBlamer wishes to turn American into. You would change your mind on the spot, dummy. You will get your wish–oBlamer has taken America past the point of no return. He has doubled the national debt in just three years, and we no longer have the ability, especially with the new laws he has created, to overturn. Enjoy yourself. Vote for the foreigner and tell yourself it doesn’t matter if he bankrupts America. Just answer this: who will sign your welfare checks and issue your food stamps??

      • Shelia

        there you go again with the welfare and food stamps, go do a fact check to see who really get the food stamps and welfare, you are such a racist, oh and by the way my name is spelled correct, and yes you are somebody’s fool.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Shelia Nobody’s Fool can be very gullible and foolish himself. It’s the Banksters who in lock step with Wall Street crippled our economy . The Fool will never admit it though. He also won’t admit that those Conservative farmers in Red States are notorious for taking millions in welfare money.to support their business. I’m not saying those farmers are right or wrong but the Fool can be delusional at times.

  • DAVID W. ALLEN, Sr.

    I HAVE NOT YET SEEN “2012″ BUT I INTEND TO.

    HOW COULD OUR COUNTRY RE-ELECT THIS OBAMA SCUMBAG??

    • deerinwater

      With a number #2 pencil , ~ it’s easy ~ Since Ron Paul is not being offered any support by these alleged “conservatives” that made much loud claims of their alleged convictions and loyalty to the cause, ~ I’m left disappointed with this display of loyalty you could maybe expect from a 20 dollar hooker.

      When it came time to stand up and be counted, they elected to turn around and bend over for the GOP machine, the same old bunch, Karl Rove and corporate friends.

      What choices am I left with? I don’t have anything in common with Mitt Romney other then his love for family and taste in women. He’s got a loving wife and fine family, why ignore them for such an awful job that makes one aged in double time.

      His family needs him more then America needs him. While with Ron Paul , it could have been his “Swan Song”, something that he had prepared years for ~ and he’d loved every minute of it. It would have been a great way to go out, by starting the change that everyone else refuses to address, not finding the courage or insight.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        > Since Ron Paul is not being offered any support by
        > these alleged “conservatives” that made much loud
        > claims of their alleged convictions and loyalty to the
        > cause, ~ I’m left disappointed with this display of
        > loyalty you could maybe expect from a 20 dollar hooker.

        You’re imagining things if you thought that your cause was ever the same as ours. ABO wasn’t the least bit good enough for us. Obama isn’t the problem in our eyes, the rest of you Progressive Republicans, paying only lip-service to what you claim to stand for, are a much bigger part of the problem, too.

        Had the RNC acted honorably during the primary process, instead of breaking their own rules time and time again? Had Romney’s people not tried to trick the delegates into voting for invalid people? Maybe your party would still have the support of the Ron Paul supporters and many of the rest of us Libertarians.

        But, they didn’t.

        Time, and time again, they demonstrated that they are the same as the Progressive Democrats, just singing in a different key.

        Time and time again, they chose corruption, over playing by their own rules and letting the chips fall where they may. The more they did that, the more they showed us, that they are not worthy of our support, and are a big part of the overall threat.

        During the primary process, the RNC was a bigger threat than the Democrats were.

        Keep your blinders on and only see Obama if you wish, but we’re fighting a much bigger fight, and a more serious issue than arguing over which puppet is going to be in the white house.

        – Smoov

      • DaveH

        Smoov says — “Since Ron Paul is not being offered any support by
        > these alleged “conservatives” that made much loud
        > claims of their alleged convictions and loyalty to the
        > cause, ~ I’m left disappointed with this display of
        > loyalty you could maybe expect from a 20 dollar hooker”.

        And you know whether they supported Ron Paul, or NOT, how Smoov?

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        I believe I already stated several of the things that demonstrated not only a lack of support, but active resistance.

        I’ll turn it around tho and ask you the harder question, to show how they did support him, since you don’t agree with my claim that they didn’t.

        – Smoov

  • Nancy Young

    We went to see this. Scarey! But of course it is being said that it is all lies.

  • Alex

    I finally have to ask you, Chip—are you a coke addict or a meth head, or what?
    You so often say, “Keep some powder dry.” What’s up with that?

    • Vigilant

      From Wikipedia:

      “Si vis pacem, para bellum is a Latin adage translated as, “If you wish for peace, prepare for war” (usually interpreted as meaning peace through strength—a strong society being less likely to be attacked by enemies). The adage was adapted from a statement found in Book 3 of Latin author Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus’s tract De Re Militari (4th- or 5th-century), although the idea it conveys is also present in earlier works, such as Plato’s Nomoi (Laws).”

      • Dorothy Danfelser

        Right on, Vigilant. thanks!

      • TML

        ‘Peace through strength’ is philosophy that is dangerously imperialist. Some would even call it a fallacy, or an oxymoron. The Revolutionary War, Civil War, Spanish- American War to World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and the cold wars, and now the wars with the entire Middle East; spending to prop up the military industrial complex and ‘increase strength’ has brought us not one inch closer to peace.

        “a strong society being less likely to be attacked by enemies” – I think recent event have even shown this to be a completely failed policy

        Anytime I hear someone say ‘peace through strength’, I am reminded historically that all empires have held this philosophy. (And then I’m reminded of Star Wars 3 when Lord Sidious said, “once again the Sith will rule the world… and then we shall have peace”… LOL)

        Keeping [gun] power dry in no way keeps peace… it’s only a preparation for defense if required.

      • Gea

        Peace through SUBMISSION to Islam and Marxism is NOT peace at all, since it is based on lies. WE in US MUST defend ourselves from those liars who are trying to take over. The Muslim Brotherhood stated goal is to infiltrate America and destroy Western civilization from within and establish the only true religion of Islam to rule over others in America. Obama had helped them penetrate into the center of American power in the white house.

        Obama is the most skillful liar in the history of America, using black racism and white guilt as well as his toll stories of “justice” and peace to deceive and destroy America. He is totally un-American but is selling his Marxism and Islamism to moochers ,who think that the rest of 53% Americans will support their dysfunctional behaviors and making babies out of wedlock for ever. Obama should be tried for treason of American values and causing death of the American ambassador in Libya, If his administration did not prevent US marines to carry live munition in Arab countries, the US ambassador would be alive.

        Obama is not only a danger to American democracy but to the entire Western civilization which is under attack by Islam, a supremacist ideology that is incompatible with the US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Now Obama with his Islamists friends it trying to subvert First Amendment of US Constitution in order to prevent truth about Islamic ideology to be known.

      • Vigilant

        “a strong society being less likely to be attacked by enemies” – I think recent event have even shown this to be a completely failed policy.”

        And you, of course, can provide just ONE example of a weak society being less likely to be attacked by enemies?

      • TML

        Vigilant says, “And you, of course, can provide just ONE example of a weak society being less likely to be attacked by enemies?”

        Strong and weak are perceptual adjectives… one could define a society which is likely to be attacked as weak, and one that is not likely to be attacked as strong, but isn’t a rule… and really has nothing, necessarily, to do with military might… since we can see historically smaller forces defeating larger ones (i.e. Vietnam and Wu an Chu in ancient China)

        However, my statement was more to the point that recent uprising against the United States, and even 9/11, show that a strong society is not necessarily less likely to be attacked.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest ralph

      Alex, Ever hear of keeping your “Gun Powder Dry?”

      • JC

        Once again…Alex hasn’t a clue.
        You should try reading some American History Alex…or any book for that matter.

      • momo

        Alex thinks the powder Chip refers to is coke. You need to remember Alex’s frame of reference.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear ralph,

        Alex is a troll paid to come here and spout inane drivel in order to deflect and obfuscate.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

    • http://personalliberty.com Texas

      Alex, what Chip means is keep some dry powder for your gun, as wet powder will not fire the ball out of the gun. The way Obama is headed, we may all need some dry powder.

      • aggie

        Got mine!

    • sickAndTired

      gunpowder dumbass

    • hipshotpercusion

      It refers to Gun Powder, idiot!

    • HH

      I find it interesting that Alex floats completely past the context of the message and makes his comment on the signature!

      BTY, my powder is DRY!!!

      • HH

        That was a typo…….. BTW NOT BTY

  • KG

    What a load of crap!

    This movie is nothing more than right-wing nazi religious right propaganda. Shocking! It’s all funded and produced by a bunch of Regan worshipers. Anyone who watches this flotsam and adds an ounce of legitimacy to it deserves the wrath of those who have that scourge known as a brain.
    If you want to be entertained, that’s fine – just remember it’s ENTERTAINMENT.
    Remember, our country has been going downhill since Regan.

    • Paul Wells

      You are a complete moron, totally without any original thinking whatsoever! Total FAIL!

      • djm123

        Paul you are a bible humper !! yes spelled that correctly. Talk about not having an open mind you a one sided sheeple. you hillbilly that can spell !!

      • Paul Wells

        What’s a matter djm123, did your camel kick you this morning when you approached from behind? You already show your true lack of tolerance, and from what I can see, it’s directed at the Bible and those who believe. I’d be very very afraid, if I were you. Forever is an awful long time!

      • JimboJ

        Paul, you are a complete moron, totally without any original thinking whatsoever! Total FAILURE!

    • Butch

      Load of crap is what the Fraud-in-Chief has been spoon feeding you, traitor to your nation. Instead getting on yr stump and spouting lies and hate as you always do, cite SPECIFICALLY what is not true. Good luck w/ that.

      • KG

        The bust of Churchill is still in the White house. Dsousa lied about that. As well as saying that Mr. Obama is raising the national debt “on purpose”. Most of the debt we have now was incurred during the Bush administration – two wars, Unfunded drug program etc etc.

        If you believe all of the outrageous claims in this movie, I’ve got a bridge for sale.

      • JimboJ

        My bridge is for sale, too.

      • Wayne Leach

        For the facts comparing the debt accumulation between Bush II & Obama, see this: http://www.heritage.org/federalbudget/budget-create-deficits?gclid=cl-gvfjuy7icfujo4aodjbaawa

      • Gea

        Barak Hussein Obama is working hard with CAIR and OIC to subvert US Constitution under the disguise of “respect for Islam”, which in fact it hiding that Mohamed was a pedophile, rapist, polygamist and murderer, just as that movie showed (this is from Muslims sources). Islam is a supremacist ideology, similar to Nazi ideology, including delusional Jew and Americans hatred, and it is incompatible with the US Constitution. Rather then REFORMING Islam to make it compatible, Hussein Obama and his Muslim Brothers are trying to subvert US Constitution First Amandment (Freedom of speech) to cover up how vile Islam itself really is.

        Hussein Obama had betrayed American values and American diplomats and ihe is further endangering lives of non-Muslims all over the world, by grovelling and apologizing to Muslim barbarians who had murdered US Ambassador, because Obama administration sold them out to Muslim Brotherhood. Shame on Obama and shame on Americans for tolerating this treasonous man in the White House. Obama should resign and/or impeached for destroying American and Western civilization.

      • JimboJ

        Wayne,

        Could the high percentage of the deficit when compared to the GDP be because the GDP is down and expenses are up because of the recession that started during the Bush era? If you need a clue, the answer to that question is YES.

        Look at http://zfacts.com/p/318.html for the facts. You will see that the HUGE moves in the deficit when compared to the GDP were under Republican presidents beginning with the patron saint of conservatives, Ronald Reagan.

        Furthermore, since 1970 the national debt rose over $15.5 trillion. Of that amount, over $9.5 trillion came during years that we had a Republican president and less than $6 trillion under Democrat presidents. That information is from the US Treasury website at http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np.

        Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

      • HH

        Here we go again, playing the blame game! It’s ALL their faults JimboJ! Not just republicans but democrats too! There ALL to blame!!! It’s NOT just one side doing it!!!

      • JimboJ

        Ain’t no “blame game” as you suggest, it’s an absolute fact. One I can tell that you don’t like; nevertheless, that doesn’t change the fact that the Republicans are to blame for over 50% more of the debt than the Democrats since 1970. I don’t like it either, but that’s a fact.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Doesn’t anybody ever seem to remember, that being attacked on 9/11, had a lot to do with the chilling of our economy, too?

        Sure, it is the popular thing to blame Bush for everything under the sun including sunspot activity, but the reality is different.

        The economy always has its ebbs and flows… ALWAYS… no boom economy can sustain itself indefinitely… at some point, everybody has most of the stuff they need/want.

        I will go a little bit far to stay that the economy had already begun a downturn by the time Bush #2 came into office, which I believe, had already started under Clinton, but we don’t go blaming Clinton for it. It would be unreasonable.

        Clinton takes a lot of credit for the economy he ended with, while conveniently leaving out the Republican houses (there is no “senate” anymore) who also played their part.

        What Clinton does get credit for, was choosing to work with them in some measure, instead of the full shut-out we have now.

        But, back to Bush #2.

        I was a cab driver at the time. Business was good, I hardly ever sat waiting for a run, except before 4-5a… after the 9/11 attacks, that changed dramatically.

        Having several days a week where I lost money, became the norm. People tightened up a lot, and we were left with too many drivers on the road for the amount of business that remained.

        Bush #2 may not have helped matters, and probably would have still had a clear economic downturn to deal with, but the attacks was a full body-blow, knocking down the economy even further.

        At the time, it wasn’t policies that drove that body-blow, it was us. ALL of us. Every single one of us who saw the attacks, watched them unfold on the screen, and tightened all of our belts, expecting that this could be just the beginning of a much larger problem, and we were thinking more about stocking up and preparing for a longer haul than we did about having fun.

        I don’t like Bush #2 much (or #1 for that matter), but he doesn’t get nearly all of the blame that people like to pile onto him. (conspiracy theorists, aside)

        His response towards Afghanistan? Was correct, and proper, and if we had to accumulate more debt in the process, then so be it. This wasn’t day-to-day administration, this was wartime, and in wartime, priorities shift. (won’t get into Iraq, I still don’t get why we did that, but that’s ok, it all ends up being part of the bigger picture)

        That action, unlike so many other things our Feds spend money on, was something that the Fed gov’t is actually SUPPOSED to do. That is a part of their actual purpose. It is the Fed gov’t's reason for being. So, I find it so hard to get worked up over a few hundred billion of debt during that time, since they were actually doing their job for a change.

        Post-Bush tho, is another matter entirely. We had more or less levelled off, economically. We were still in a good position to bounce back, and things were just starting to get back to normal, and then the Democrats changed everything, and threw our economy and financial future into utter chaos.

        It has been four years now. They had plenty of time to continue to improve things if they chose to. They didn’t, and like every presidency before Obama’s, this is now his baby, not Bush’s.

        It is long Long LONG overdue for the Democrats to stand up and take responsibility for their own mess now. It doesn’t belong to Bush anymore, and hasn’t, for 4 years.

        But, no… they’re still pointing fingers… as if we’re stupid… and they’re spoiled little children who need to be taught a few lessons in responsibility and consequences for their actions.

        For that matter, the Republicans, are just like them, and they need lessons too.

        They’re both, just little children in the back seat, “quit touching me!” “he pulled my hair!” etc etc… the rest area is coming up in about a mile… seems like a good time to pull over, and start giving out some spankings.

        – Smoov

      • HH

        (….the attacks was a full body-blow, knocking down the economy even further.)

        Starting up the Department of Homeland Security under the Bush admin. did’t help the economy either, how many billions has that cost us so far?

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Well, we’d have to take into account the costs we were spending on the other agencies that were merged into it as well to come up with an accurate additional cost, which I don’t have. I have less objections to the costs incurred tho, right now, when compared to the activities they are employing, particularly when it comes to the domestic side of things.

        Folding FEMA into it on top of it was a disaster. They should naturally work hand-in-hand, but FEMA, I think, was more nimble when it was its own separate entity, before it became a cog into a larger, more sluggish, bureaucracy. You also have a clash of priorities involved too.

        I think the NSA also overlaps too much with other agencies too. Do we really need that much overlap?

        I could see folding several agencies into the NSA, making sense, including the border patrol, as they are pretty much our front line forces on our borders, but even then, you’d still have a clash of priorities.

        I just keep seeing more and more evidence of myopic thinking coming from our elected representatives, and we don’t seem to require better from our candidates anymore.

        It is all just one big hodge-podge of a mess, and we as a society, are being pretty stupid, in thinking that we can solve those problems, by continuing to keep those parties in power, who are responsible for creating, and maintaining, that mess, in the first place.

        – Smoov

      • HH

        (…….and we as a society, are being pretty stupid, in thinking that we can solve those problems, by continuing to keep those parties in power, who are responsible for creating, and maintaining, that mess, in the first place. — Smoov)

        Can’t find an argument in that statement Smoov!

      • JimboJ

        Smoovious Laxness,

        Much of what you said is true, but I disagree with you on a few points. First, the history of US GDP shows that the traditional definition of recession – two straight quarters of GDP decline – was never met during the Clinton presidency. Unemployment was 4.2% and had been under 5% for over three years when Clinton left office.

        Second, your claim that the economy was “in a good position to bounce back, and things were just starting to get back to normal” when Obama took office doesn’t fly. Unemployment had gone up during the Bush administration from as low as 4.4% in 2007 to 7.8% when Obama was inaugurated. The rate had increased or stayed the same in ten consecutive months during Bush’s last year. In the fourth quarter of 2008, the GDP dropped 8.9%, the second biggest drop in a single quarter since 1947. Those numbers don’t back up your assertion.

        Third, you said Clinton should get credit for working with the House. It’s exactly the other way around – the House should get credited for working with the president. The problem today is that the Republicans in the House refuse to work with Obama in order to attain their stated goal of making him a one term president. That is the single biggest reason for the economy’s failing to get better.

        There may be another thing or two that you wrote that I disagree with a little, but those are glaring errors that I disagree with a lot and just couldn’t ignore.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        I don’t believe I made the claim of a recession under Clinton… just that there was a downturn.

        And yes, Clinton did choose to work with the houses, and not the other way around…

        AND… your assertion that it is the Republicans who are refusing to work with Obama, and not Obama refusing to work with the Republicans, is just laughable.

        The Republicans have passed several measures that Obama won’t even come to the table for, and Reid for that matter.

        How can a serious effort be made for them to work together, when Obama won’t even offer a serious budget that his own party will even vote for, and there has been no budget passed, to begin working together over, for his entire administration?

        We may be able to have argument over some other points, but that assertion of the Republicans not working with Obama, isn’t even a door-opener argument.

        Thank you for playing, please try again later.

        – Smoov

      • JimboJ

        Whoa Smoovious,

        I was beginning to think that you had half a brain, but you backslid on me.

        How many times have you heard Obama say that his goal was to make this a one term Congress? How many proposals has Obama sent to Congress that the Speaker of the House wouldn’t even bring up for debate, let alone a vote? How many bills that Congress passed has Obama vetoed?

        Obama sent a 2012 budget proposal to Congress that had a deficit of $1.101 trillion. Congress proposed a budget with a deficit of $1.327 trillion. What, you say? This Congress that preaches about lowering the deficit actually proposed a budget with an even bigger deficit than the devil Obama’s? It’s a fact.

        Smoov, you need to do whatever you haven’t been doing to get the straight story. Watching Hannity and Beck, listening to Limbaugh and Gallagher and reading Malkin’s and Krauthammer’s columns in what they call the “liberal press” ain’t gonna git ya no smarter, Smoovy. You need to listen and learn from JimboJ.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        sorry, I can’t comment right now… I’m too busy laughing…

      • Wayne Leach

        JimboJ: #1: I don’t smoke or drink Kool Aid. #2: Under Bush (8 yrs.) the deficit was 3.2 % of GDP, but under your hero Obama, it rose to 8.3%. Bush had a Democrat Congress during much of the time before the “bubble burst” that was created by allowing banks to loan to people that could not afford to repay their mortgages, plus the bundling and resale of these mortgages to gamble with. Expenses are up because the Reid-controlled Senate won’t allow budget cuts to even be brought to a vote. Believe me, I am no fan of either Bush 41 or 43, or most of the congressional Republicans. They are big spenders, too.
        By the way, how many Republican & Democrat presidents have we had since Reagan took office? Answer: GOP 3, Dem’s 2; and the number of years adds up to 20 GOP, 12 Dem’s. Presidents don’t spend the money, Congress does, beginning in the House – if a President can even propose a budget for them to work with.
        During Bush’s 2 terms, the national debt increased about $5 trillion; during Obama’s 1 term, it increased more than $5 trillion. In my way of calculating it, that is just about double the speed of the Bush (2) years.
        Put that in your bong and smoke it.

      • JimboJ

        Wayne,

        #1: I don’t smoke either, and I don’t drink the Kool Aid of Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Limbaugh, Gallagher, Hannity, O’Reilley or anyone else.

        #2: Obama is far from being my hero. I’m not an Obama fan, but I am a fan of the truth. Truth is derived from facts, not from talk radio, Fox News or right wingnut blogs like this one.

        #3: The chart you refer to has absolutely no figures to back up its claim. Until I am able to examine the method used to make the calculations, I refuse to take them as factual. To calculate the percentages requires a table of both the debt and the GDP on a quarterly basis because the government’s fiscal year and the calendar year aren’t the same. I know where to find tables for both, but the one for the debt breaks it down fiscally while the one for the GDP is by the calendar year. If you can provide the data to confirm the calculation, I will be more than happy to examine it.

        Another thing that you have to remember is that percentages don’t tell the whole truth. I can remember when I was in grade school, a teacher proved that with a simple explanation. She said that in Russia at the beginning of the year, there were 100 televisions. In the US, there were 1,000. During the next year, 100 more Russians and the same number of Americans got televisions. The Russian newspaper carried a story the next day, “Russia doubles the number of televisions in the country, and the US only increased their ownership by 10%.” Ya’ git it?

        #4: The argument that the Congress was the same or different party from the president isn’t valid because the president has the last word on any legislation unless Congress overrides his veto. In eight years, Bush only vetoed eleven bills, and just four were overridden.

        #5: Obama sent a budget to Congress last year that had a deficit of $1.101 trillion. When the Congressional Budget Committee finished with it, the deficit was $1.327 trillion.

        #6: It appears that you have no idea how the budget process works because you are wrong when you say, “Presidents don’t spend the money, Congress does.” The budget begins and ends on the president’s desk. Study up on the budget process for your homework assignment.

        #7: You are wrong about Bush, and you are wrong about Obama. In Bush’s eight budget years, the debt increased $6,102,365,591,311.64. During Obama’s three years (I say three because the 2013 budget will begin on October 1, 2012 and won’t end until September 30, 2013) the debt has gone up $4,135,849,689,218.90. That number is accurate up to September 13.

        What is more significant than the total debt increase is the fact that despite the poor situation that Bush left him, Obama’s deficit has never been as large as Bush’s was in his final year.

        #8: I wish I had something to put in my bong, but I don’t. In fact, I don’t have a bong either. I never did like those things. Though, doesn’t it seem that when everyone walked around stoned and mellowed out, the country was a much better place to live?

        #9: It’s late in SC, and it’s time for me to take a shower and go to bed. Good night, y’all. I may waste more time tomorrow trying to open all ya’ll’s eyes, but I may find something else to do that isn’t such an impossibility – like trying to figure out how my wife thinks.

        Y’all, have a good right wingnut day tomorrow listening to Rush, so y’all know what to think on Tuesday. Suckers!

      • DaveH

        KG says — “Most of the debt we have now was incurred during the Bush administration”.
        The facts:
        National Debt when Bush took office — $5.77 Trillion.
        National Debt when Obama took office — $10.60 Trillion.
        National Debt currently — $16.00 Trillion.
        Total Debt accumulation under Bush in 8 years — $4.83 Trillion.
        Total Debt accumulation under Obama in less than 4 years — $5.4 Trillion.
        Debt accumulation under Bush each year — $.6 Trillion.
        Debt accumulation under Obama each year — $1.35 Trillion+.
        Obama has grown the National Debt at more than twice the yearly rate as Bush did.

        So KG is either ignorant or just plain lying. Typical for Liberal Progressives.

      • HH

        (So KG is either ignorant or just plain lying. Typical for Liberal Progressives.)

        DaveH, whether KG is ignorant or not just look at the figures he/she posted………….

        KG said, (Paraphrased) “Over the last 15 years republicans raised the debt 9.6 trillion, democrats only raised it 6 trillion.”

        Get real KG, BOTH parties RAISED national debt, NEITHER party LOWERED IT!!! So who’s worse? Dem’s for only 6 trillion of our debt??? They are BOTH bad!!!

      • JimboJ

        HH,

        Don’t you understand? Yeah, both party’s records are bad, but the Republicans, the party that claims to be fiscally conservative, was the worse by a HUGE margin. Who are the hypocrites?

      • HH

        (Who are the hypocrites?)

        I’m not defending either one of them! I’m not standing up for either one of them either!

      • JimboJ

        That ain’t the answer. It”s the Republicans who are the hypocrites for laying the blame on the Democrats and Obama for the monstrous debt while they are responsible for nearly two-thirds of it. It is the same as your wife blaming the six pack of beer that you buy each week for causing you to be broke when she gets a new wardrobe every payday.

      • HH

        (That ain’t the answer. It”s the Republicans who are the hypocrites for laying the blame on the Democrats and Obama for the monstrous debt while they are responsible for nearly two-thirds of it. It is the same as your wife blaming the six pack of beer that you buy each week for causing you to be broke when she gets a new wardrobe every payday.)

        Excuse me but aren’t the dem’s blaming it all on Bush?

        Sorry your analogy doesn’t work, I don’t buy beer and my wife doesn’t by a new wardrobe every pay day. My wife and I BOTH have private sector jobs and we have to sit and watch our public servants (Obama + others) wast our money buying the beer and a new wardrobe every payday!

      • JimboJ

        The Democrats have it right. It’s the Republican policies implemented by Reagan and Bush that are responsible for our financial woes today. Read my previous posts with real numbers pertaining to unemployment and the GDP, and if you come to any other conclusion, you AREN’T smarter than a fifth grader.

      • HH

        (Read my previous posts with real numbers pertaining to unemployment and the GDP, and if you come to any other conclusion, you AREN’T smarter than a fifth grader.)

        I’ve read your post Jimba, I think you’re misinformed. Never said I was smarter than a 5th grader, shoot, if I could get 2nd grade questions right I’d be happy!!!

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        > Who are the hypocrites?

        Precisely.

        We have a lot to complain about with the Democrats, certainly, but it is the Republicans that actually get most of my ire.

        The Democrats aren’t pretending to be something they’re not. They’re doing what we expect of them, and have expected of them for a long time now. Progressive influence or not, they were always about bigger government and micro-managing the country. They’re just being true to their goals.

        The Republicans are more deserving of our ire, as they haven’t been following through on what they claim to be their ideals for a VERY long time now.

        The Democrats are being true to their nature.
        The Republicans only pay lip-service to what they want us to believe is their nature.

        So, yeah… which is more deserving of our scorn? Which party is betraying us more?

        Seems pretty obvious to me.

        – Smoov

      • HH

        I’ll just leave it with this, the democratic party of today is nothing like the democratic party of yesterday…………. for the most part it’s slid completely to the left with no intentions of returning.

      • JimboJ

        The Democrats haven’t slid as far left as the Republicans have to the right. Tea Teabaggers have made that party more radical than any other time in history.

      • HH

        The TEA party spun off of the republican party but they ARE NOT a part of the republican party! They are a completely different party now apart from the rep’s.

      • JimboJ

        HH,

        Who do you think you are kidding? The Teabaggers are extreme right wingnuts that are financed by extreme right wingnut Republicans including Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks, which has received millions from Koch family foundations. You can’t deny Armey’s and the Koch family’s political partisanship.

        Now what ignorance will spew from your mouth next?

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        But they were always pulling to the left.

        The Democrats are all about going to the left.

        The Democrats of yesteryear may have not been as far left as they are now, but they always were to the left, were always trying to go further to the left, and today, they are further to the left, and continue to keep trying to go further left.

        This is no surprise. The Democrats are being Democrats, even if the faces and specific policies of the day have changed, their core purpose is still operating as before. The Progressives have certainly had their influence, guiding them along certain paths, but even so, it is still leftward.

        The Republicans are supposedly, not about going to the left, but to the left they keep on going, right along with the Democrats, like the Democrats’ shadow, offering counterpoint to the Democrats’ melody.

        The Republicans are not at all serious about embracing what they claim to be about, smaller government, personal responsibility, etc, as evidenced by how often, they never ever repeal policies they proclaim unjust and unamerican, how they always compromise with the Democrats about taxes and spending, remembering about raising the taxes, forgetting about the spending.

        They are lying to us more than the Democrats are.

        When they treat politicians who actually are serious about limiting government and cutting spending, I would expect the Republicans to rally around them enthusiastically as that is what the Republicans are supposed to be about, but they don’t. They shun them, blackball them, force them out, corrupt the system to deny them their rightful representation they have earned, according to their own rules.

        The Republicans, are not being Republicans. Their core purpose has been relegated to sound bites and lip service only with no serious effort to carry it out. The Progressives have certainly had their influence with the Republican party too, also guiding them along certain other paths, choreographed along with the paths the Democrats are taking, to give us the illusion of divided government, but none of the reality of it, and as a result, the Republicans continue to move leftward just as much as the Democrats are.

        This is the betrayal, and why I am so much harsher with the Republicans than the Democrats. The Democrats are being Democrats. The Republicans are being Other-Democrats.

        This is leaving a big void, that demands to be filled, and the Libertarian party is rising to take that space, similarly to the time when the Republicans ascended to fill the space the Whigs used to hold.

        The Libertarians have a much more difficult time tho. The Democrats and Republicans have legislation in place to make their own existence much easier, while any other party, has to play by a different set of rules all together.

        If there was a talented lawyer out there somewhere, surely something could be done about this through the courts under the equal protection portions of The Constitution, but that is beyond my knowledge, and will have to leave that to others more knowledgeable in that area.

        – Smoov

      • HH

        (………..and why I am so much harsher with the Republicans than the Democrats. The Democrats are being Democrats. The Republicans are being Other-Democrats.)

        Can’t argue that Smoov!

      • JimboJ

        DaveH,

        Any simpleton can understand why the debt has risen more under Obama than under Bush. Bush was awarded the presidency during the best economic period in our lifetime. He didn’t take office during the worst recession in the country’s history like Obama did.

        The fact is that in Bush’s last year, the debt went up $1.8 trillion. The most it has risen during Obama’s term is $1.6 trillion, and that was in his first year. The deficit increased in six of Bush’s eight years. Obama has brought it down twice.

      • HH

        (The most it has risen during Obama’s term is $1.6 trillion, and that was in his first year.)

        AND Obamacare hasn’t kicked in yet! Just thing of how much higher it will go when that cash cow get’s fully engaged!!!

      • JimboJ

        HH,

        We won’t know if Obamacare will raise the debt or not until it is implemented. If it does, you can say, “I told you so,” but until then, you are blowing smoke.

      • HH

        (We won’t know if Obamacare will raise the debt or not until it is implemented.)

        I don’t see it “lowering” the debt Jimbo! What was it Nancy Pelosi said? “We need to pass this just to find out what’s in it!”???? She’s and idiot! Of course the rest of our representatives who voted for it with out reading it are idiots too!

      • JimboJ

        HH,

        Yep, Pelosi is an idiot, but that doesn’t make your crystal ball work. We don’t know whether Obamacare will save the government money or not until it’s fully implemented..

        Anyone who doesn’t believe that healthcare needs to be reformed in this country isn’t hitting on all cylinders. That industry is bankrupting America much more quickly than any Obama policy will. Doctors, hospitals, drug companies and most others in the healthcare industry are money-grubbing leeches.

      • HH

        I don’t have a crystal ball Jimbo, health care needs to be reformed I just don’t believe Obama care is the answer. My wife is in the health care profession so I understand where it is. It’s broken!!!

      • DaveH

        JimboJ says — “The fact is that in Bush’s last year, the debt went up $1.8 trillion. The most it has risen during Obama’s term is $1.6 trillion, and that was in his first year. The deficit increased in six of Bush’s eight years. Obama has brought it down twice”.
        According to the Treasury:
        http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
        On January 30, 2008, the National Debt was $9.20 Trillion Dollars.
        On January 30, 2009, the National Debt was $10.63 Trillion Dollars.
        For an increase of $1.43 Trillion Dollars in Bush’s last year.
        On January 30, 2010, the National Debt was $12.28 Trillion Dollars.
        For an increase of $1.65 Trillion in Obama’s first year.

        So where do you get your figures from, JimboJ?

      • JimboJ

        Davey me lad, you used to right source, your numbers are likely correct, but you must not understand when the government’s fiscal year begins and ends. Sorry about that!

        The last Bush budget began on October 1, 2008 and ended September 30, 2009. Get it? Okay, now that you got that straight, let’s examine the right numbers.

        At the end of the 2008 fiscal year, the debt was $10,024,724,896,912.40. See that?
        At the end of the 2009 fiscal year, the debt was $11,909,829,003,511.70. Bush’s deficit therefore increased the debt by $1,885,104,106,599.30. Is the math right?

        At the end of the 2010 fiscal year, which was Obama’s first budget year, the debt was $13,561,623,030,891.70. The difference, the Bush final year deficit, is $1,651,794,027,380.00.

        Gosh, that’s even more than Obama’s 2012 enacted budget deficit of $1.327 trillion. Why all the fuss now when there wasn’t any fussing about Bush’s deficits? It wouldn’t be partisanship, would it?

        If that isn’t over your head and you get it, Davey boy, then concede that you and the right wingnuts who do your thinking for you are wrong about Obama’s debt.

        The ball is in your court, but methinks me scored with an ace after you double faulted.

        .

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        um… Obama doesn’t have any budget years…

        – Smoov

      • DaveH

        Don’t get me wrong, JimboJ. I think both Bush and Obama have been spending like drunken sailors. But that’s unfair to drunken sailors because they at least spend their own money.

    • Jody

      Well now, thanks to your Messiah, it’s in the express lane.

    • Vigilant

      Understand, folks, that KG’s screed comes from the same “brain” that produced the statement that communism is already in the Constitution via the terms “We the People” and “general welfare.”

      • momo

        Yeah Vig, KG is a real legal scholar!!!

      • KG

        in my opinion, i am the smartest person in the world. Just as in your world you are the smartest person in the world.

    • JC

      Thanks for your input KG. It serves as a reminder that Liberals have no real talking points and like to throw tantrums to get their way…just like the spoiled little children they are.
      Don’t forget to wear your helmet…it’s dangerous out there. ;-)

      • S.C.Murf

        Love it JC, my wife being a pre-school teacher (early childhood development ), maybe she could lend a hand in the training of how to put on a helmet correctly for KG.

        up the hill
        airborne

    • Kay

      If the illegal usurper happens to be fraudulently elected again, I’ll hold you personally responsible for the downfall of a once awesome republic. I’m appalled at such ignorance in the 21st century. If you’re intelligent enough to show up and write a warped opinion on this site, then you should also be smart enough to see whats happening. There is no excuse for any American living in the greatest country on earth to be so hellbent on its destruction. Honestly, you should live in a dictator controlled country like N. Korea, Venezuela, China or elsewhere so you would truely understand the meaning of Barack Hussein Obama. Unbelievable!!

      • Steve E

        Many are just too lazy to learn anything if it takes an effort.

      • Flashy

        Kay…other than saying nothing…you’ve managed to say ….well …nothing. Mirroring the thoughts in your head maybe?

      • DaveH

        Don’t let him hurt your feelings, Kay. Flashman is just a useless administration shill who will try anything to disrupt good people from learning things.

    • Shelia

      I agree with you KG, this is one man’s opinion of Obama, and the more people he get to watch this movie, the more money he make, and the movie is not making any difference in the polls anyway . Obama/Biden 2012

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Shelia, did you realize your name is misspelled?? Oh my, with a start in life like that, no wonder you can’t think straight!!

      • JC

        One man’s opinion? Are you kidding? These are facts girl…FACTS!
        I challenge you to disprove any of it.

    • hipshotpercusion

      KG=Another useful idiot. Die horribly, fool!

    • Nobody’s Fool

      KG’s mind is like concrete–thoroughly mixed up and firmly set.

    • Realist

      Since Reagan? Since Arnold. A link to a quick history lesson.
      http://www.chuckharder.com/arnold.html

      • KG

        Chuck Harder is a lying fool. Here’s proof. This is a list of at least three tankers sunk by German Uboats in WWII. So, it’s a “myth” that Standard Oil tankers were not sunk by the germans.

        Name J.A. Moffett, Jr.
        Type: Motor tanker
        Tonnage 9,788 tons
        Completed 1921 – Federal Shipbuilding Co, Kearny NJ
        Owner Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
        Homeport Wilmington
        Date of attack 8 Jul 1942

        Name Esso Gettysburg
        Type: Turbine tanker (T-2)
        Tonnage 10,173 tons
        Completed 1942 – Sun Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co, Chester PA
        Owner Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
        Homeport Wilmington
        Date of attack 10 Jun 1943

        Name William Rockefeller
        Type: Steam tanker
        Tonnage 14,054 tons
        Completed 1921 – Newport News Shipbuilding & Dry Dock Co, Newport News VA
        Owner Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
        Homeport Wilmington
        Date of attack 28 Jun 1942

        Just because someone says something that you WANT to believe, it dosen’t make it true. I would question anything Mr. Chuck Harders says.

    • http://mine d:-)

      Did you even see it? I think not. Got proof of your claims? show them, with links/facts. until then, shut your hole, thank you.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      put your shoes on forward you ignorant…you communist bloodsucker!

      • eddie47d

        Is that more intelligent Conservative thinking Bob Peters? A few of you have your minds set in concrete too. LOL

  • http://dfiorini16@aol.com Dave Fiorini

    I agree, the movie was an eye opener for anyone on the fence. The kool-aid drinkers will think it is a fiction movie of course.
    Many of the people leaving the theater were shaking there heads wondering how this guy ever was elected in the first place.
    Thank the left wing press for that. Not vetting this guy in 2008 snuck him in.
    Fool us once shame on him, fool us twice shame on us……………..ALL OF US.

  • Lyle

    Brother and I watched this a week ago; very eye opening. I originally though BO’s motivation was strictly to turn us into a European Social Democracy but I was wrong; BO’s motivation definitely is to take our wealth from us and give it to poorer nations as an attempt to pay reprimations for his belief our colonialization of the world has done to those nations. He also wants to make sure we won’t have the ability to ever be great again. This guy’s gotta go. :)

    • eddie47d

      Yup! Keep on coming up with your wicked theories. The more you dance on Obama with that unproven bluster the higher his rating are and the better the poll numbers. D’Sousa also has an agenda and 2016 may be worth seeing but I think it is the Republicans who will have to do damage control. Going so negative can and will backfire whether it is done by a Republican or a Democrat.

      • Shelia

        amen

      • Paul Wells

        eddie47d, I can prove you haven’t seen the movie, because it doesn’t take political sides. You’d know that if you had seen the movie. This is what I love about libs…they can’t argue facts, so they just troll around and try to mask the truth. It’s not told from a R or D point of view, it’s simply some history. I’m telling you, Obama has NOT made it easy to find any truth about him, since he spent all that money sealing his records. But D’Souza has uncovered a lot by traveling to Kenya and conducting numerous interviews. I’d ask you to see the movie, but I know you won’t. You’re in the 47%.

      • djm123

        eddie you just nailed it !!!

      • Flashy

        Paul…in case you missed the critiques..you should read them above. Seems everyone but TPers view the film as a based infomercial of garbage…

      • JC

        You libbies really do panic when the truth is put in front of you…don’t ya?
        It’s easy to spot in your hysterical allegations and baseless talking points…
        as opposed to say, a well documented and easily provable film about a con artist.

      • Gary L

        Eddie and Flashy, No body in the tea party expects Obama worshippers to like the film. Especially those that are film critics.

      • eddie47d

        We see 2-3 movies each and every week and about one third are documentaries. Me and my wife do not go to the movie theaters more than 3 times a year. The last one was the SMURFS with the grand kids and even that is rare considering the cost to attend. Yet we watch them on TV through Netflix. Will I see 2016 probably so and hopefully soon.

      • Paul Wells

        Flashy…and yet not ONE of you idiots has been able to come up with any concrete verifiable facts to show that the movie’s facts are not true! FAIL!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Flashy and eddie47d, if the movie is tripe why are you so frenzied about it being viewed? By your stance on O if you were secure about him you wouldn’t concern yourself with the movie viewers. You are definitely scared “all ye beasts of the field and all ye beasts in the forest” that maybe you won’t be permitted to rob and pillage and devour through entitlement programs and the Law.

      • Flashy

        Nad…frenzied? LOL … nope, just pointing out with hilarity the tripe that’s passed off to TPers as ‘fact”. Then commenting on the usual garbage spewed by those that hold to the TP trilogy of Fear, Hate, and Ignorance…

        I’ve come to the conclusion long ago most of the TP adherents have the general mental swiftness akin to a herd of turtles wading through peanut butter and are being easily led and controlled by those that are their Masters.. Take you for example….i doubt you have had an original thought in years…

      • DaveH

        As usual, Flashman, being the Liberal Progressive that he is without logic or experiential evidence to back up his claims, must instead resort to manipulative personal attacks. What a child.

      • eddie47d

        Now the professional movie goer and name caller Dave H. stick his finger in his main orifice to impress his other senses.

    • Ricksmom

      It’s not the far left so-called educated liberals that are so frightening as they can be outnumbered. The real problem is the masses of uneducated, die-hard liberals that close their eyes and ears to anything that is not pro-Obama, steadfastly believing that ‘he is one of them and on their side’. They cannot acknowledge that he is stealing from them all ambition, their moral compass, dignity and self respect.

      Obama never grew up in poverty, he never lived among blacks or the poor. When he took his job in Chicago as a Community Organizer he would not live among them but drove 90 miles a day and lived in an exclusive neighborhood. This flies in the face of Michelle’s rant about how poor they were and how Obama picked her up in a clunker with holes in the bottom where she could see the pavement.

      Obama surely has the gift of gab, he has an agenda to destroy America and a gullible public that prefer empty promises and lies to achieve his own agenda: destroy America and the American dream. It’s sad that he is now sucking Latin Americans into this evil scheme.

      • Paul Wells

        Well said, Ricksmom. I agree with you 100%. The ONLY high marks I will give Obama is he is the slickest snake oil salesman I believe I have ever seen, and he is a master at deceiving the drooling so called educated masses that see him as some sort of messiah.

        While I am on the subject of “messiahs”….I have a theory about Democrats (not all of them, but a good number) that have largely foregone belief in Jesus and God. What they have replaced their religious beliefs with, is politics. Now..if you have read much of the Bible, it’s pretty clear what happens when you forsake Christ. Whereas before your eyes might have been opened to the truth, you can no longer find truth. That’s the only possible explanation I have for the mass deception of the Obama-ites. They refuse to see, hear, or know the truth. They are wallowing in self induced ignorance of God’s law, and what is right and just. Now, I know I’ll be attacked as a Bible thumper, that’s okay, it’s not about me. It’s about serving Jesus Christ, the redeemer of humanity, and the one indisputable bearer of God’s Truth!

      • Flashy

        So Paul…are you saying f i joined a christian sect you’d have the opinion I’d be “turned’ to the insanity aka TP philosophy? Hmmm…which one should i join? I’d hate to join up with the incorrect one and have a christian belief basis that wasn’t approved.

      • deerinwater

        Quote;” The real problem is the masses of uneducated, die-hard liberals that close their eyes and ears to anything that is not pro-Obama, steadfastly believing that ‘he is one of them and on their side’.”

        True perhaps ~ but like the little boy that cried “Wolf!” you have been tuned out by your own doing. This unrelenting consorting attack against Obama started January 20th 2009 before he actually had done anything and it hasn’t let up since but gotten more vile and ferrous with the passing of time.

        Now if you wish to make claims what constitutes an education allow me to remind you that it was John McCain’s elected to lose ~ and he did! John had poor handlers, was ill advised, was disconnected from the average American and believed that the condition of the nations economy was fundamentally sound as late as early October of 2008. That his campaign slogan was “Nation First” to a nation that had used up their saving, and max out their credit, was bury their sons and daughters from a war to nowhere that he wanted to fight and occupy for the next 20 years, as the american voters was losing their jobs at 2.6 million for the year of 08 , the highest job lost in 60 year and you wonder why UNEDUCATED people voted for Obama?

        We didn’t approve of Mc Same’s message, his posture or his capricious VP selection leaving us with only one other choice. How’s that for a recap on the finer points of an education?

      • JC

        Flashy says:
        September 21, 2012 at 9:31 am
        So Paul…are you saying f i joined a christian sect you’d have the opinion I’d be “turned’ to the insanity aka TP philosophy? Hmmm…which one should i join? I’d hate to join up with the incorrect one and have a christian belief basis that wasn’t approved.
        ______________________________________________________________________

        Wow! That is some seriously twisted crap.
        What color is the sky on your planet anyway?

      • Mary

        By the time Obama was a Community organizer, he had already graduated from Harvard Law School and was a Lawyer. His wife did also. I really don’t know any lawyers who live in poverty, do YOU? Believe it or not, lots of folks go long distances to work. There are folks driving into DC from Richmond, VA and some from WV also driving into DC. It is not unheard of. He was poor going to college and had loans to show for it. He said he and his wife had just finished paying them off about 10 yrs ago. If he had been wealthy, he would not have had to do all that. If the Repubs could not frighten their followers, they would not have any. Please tell me what proof any of you have that Obama as done anything so devious he warrants this kind of hate? I do not mean hearsay, I mean proof. I hear this BS all the time from the right, but done of it is proven.

      • HH

        (Please tell me what proof any of you have that Obama as done anything so devious he warrants this kind of hate? I do not mean hearsay, I mean proof.)

        Problem is Mary, you’ve been shown the truth and you still don’t believe it! Many folks who’s minds aren’t clammed up like your mind is have seen the truth in the video. You need to get a grip or you will get to see the country Obama wants this to be! He has NOT been lying, he really does want to “CHANGE” our country and with blind puppets like you he has a chance! God help us that doesn’t happen!!! I’m not saying our country doesn’t need change, it does! But NOT to a socialist 3rd world country!!!

    • nc

      LYLE, as an adult, give us your idea of what george w. bush was ‘trying’ to turn us into and his success at it. We are the number one nation in the world and as I sit here at my computer I see no federal troops at my door or in town or in my state that have been reported to be arresting citizens to trun us into some kind of “police state”< Do you see that?? REALLY????
      I remember , as a child, being afraid of the dark because of 'STORIES" I had been told until I spent a night in a tent IN MY BACK YARD! I saw every evil thing imaginable that night but the sun came up the next morning!! Don't let fears YOU ARE TOLD BY OTHERS control your life! They may be more paranoid than you or have a "paid for" agenda!

      Our President inherited a mess like FDR inherited a mess! If you don't believe it ask Paul Ryan! Now look at the stock market figures TODAY and the job losses per month TODAY since Obama took over in an economy that was ALREADY reflecting a very weak performance by both! HOW EASY IS IT FOR OBAMA TO PUT PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS UNDER bush BACK TO WORK WHEN THE PLACES THEY WORKED HAVE GONE OUT OF BUSINESS AND THE OTHERS HAD STOPPED HIRING??
      The present Democrat is slowly adding jobs and the last Republicans was rapidly losing them! See a difference??

      • HH

        nc says, (We are the number one nation in the world and as I sit here at my computer I see no federal troops at my door or in town or in my state that have been reported to be arresting citizens to trun us into some kind of “police state”< Do you see that?? REALLY????)

        nc, If you DID see this going on NOW would you vote for Obama?

      • DaveH

        Actually, the “mess” that FDR inherited was created primarily by the Federal Reserve, but secondarily by a Progressive Republican — Herbert Hoover. And FDR continued and exacerbated the “mess”.
        Read this to learn who FDR really was:
        http://library.mises.org/books/John%20T%20Flynn/The%20Roosevelt%20Myth.pdf

  • Keith Breedlove

    Yesterday’s Washington Examiner (www.washingtonexaminer.com) had a 10-part report on Obama’s political rise through the Chicago Machine. It was very enlightening.

  • Flashy

    LOL…..you can tell when elections are nearing. The far Right begin to brag about themselves and deflect what will be forthcoming…the opening of the doors and lifting of the fog that they are perceived as the failures which caused this once great nation to face the dangers the Conservatives of the 21st century has placed us in.

    • Keith Breedlove

      Huh??

      • Butch

        Don’t bother trying to understand Comrade Flash-in-the-pan, he spouts communist/socialist ideology and hate speech as easily as he breathes.

    • Paul Wells

      Flashy, will all due respect….you wouldn’t know the truth if it block tackled you and rubbed your face in the mud! Stop with your malingering rush to discount every belief that doesn’t agree with yours, and honestly consider the points raised. This is far too important to descend into partisan bickering. At least have an open enough mind to do that! After all, you of the more liberal persuasion are always touting your open mindedness, right?

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Paul those “open minded” folks have one problem–well, okay, they have many problems, but here is the main one: they are so open-minded that all their brains have fallen out. You can’t fix stupid.

      • Flashy

        Paul…I always consdier all the options before acting on anything. Such as…retroactive resignation, legitimate rape, the demands for a “no” on contraceptives but ‘yes and hell yes!’ on viagra covered by insurance so as to conform to religious sensitivities.

        The inability of the whacked right to realize that they very policies they cry for are those which doom them to suffer what they “fight against”. And the more they are made out as what they are…a few fries short of a Big mac Deal…the more they yell and scream demanding everyone adhere to their crazed creed based in lunacy. i.e. this movie.

        look…i am not a “liberal”, not by a long shot. I consider myself a conservative Moderate. I think Nixon had good points and was the man for the times. I think Bush I did a fair job and we lucked out when we replaced him with Clinton. I strongly believe Reagan was the second worse catastrophic presidency this nation has suffered from, exceeded only by the Neo Cons of Bush II.

        And i cannot fathom the lunacy displayed time and again by posters in this forum. Aside from Vig, 45 Caliber and a very few others…what i read day after day is a call for nothing less than this nation’s destruction and refusal to admit the situation we are in today are the direct result of conservative policies which began under Reagan.

        I have to laugh realizing that the ones who are going to get nailed s hard or harder than Progressives and Moderates should any current GOP policies and ideologies are given any effect…are the ones voting and screaming for them.

        Ask any TP member what they want…and the answer is the same. they want something other than what this nation is and stands for. Nothing less than its destruction.

        And that, Paul, is a fact..

      • JC

        No Flashy, that’s not a fact. What the Tea party wants is adherence to the Constitution of the United States of America. And THAT is what the nation stands for.
        Nice try though. ;-)

      • Flashy

        JC…the TPers “meaning” of the Constitution is so far out of touch with reality..that’s like saying Santa Claus Versus the Martians is a factual documentary…

      • Firefly

        Nothing – NOTHING – short of a return to the principles of the founding fathers and a rejection of Marxist socialism can return us to the greatness that was once the United States. I’m not fan of President Putin of Russia – during his first term of presidency years ago his supposedly off-the-cuff comments made world headlines and caused me to lose nearly ten years of savings, the biggest financial loss of my life, but Putin once said that “the United States cannot oppose everyone in the world who disagrees with them.” We can no longer afford to be the policeman of the world. The national debt is increasing the rate of nearly two an a half million dollars PER MINUTE! and the spending of the Democrats and the Republicans in the last decade are so great that huge inflation is coming and should already be here. This cannot now be avoided no matter who is president. The FED has initiated ramping up the presses again since no one is fool enough to loan us more money when we can’t even pay the interest on all we already owe. I’m waiting to see who voted last night in Congress to give the Muslim Brotherhood (who hate our guts) in Egypt and elsewhere more money. If Congress votes to do so and are re-elected than Americans deserve what they are going to get.

        That said, if Obama is re-elected it will be the end of the Democratic Party and no Democrat will be elected president again until long after WWIII ends. That will probably begin for real when Iran launches their first nuclear tipped missile or Israel destroys the bomb making factories before they launch, thereby fulfilling another Bible prophecy that “All the nations of the world will turn against Israel.” I do not know how it will end but any who think we will not be affected by all this are truly delusional.

        We have enough coal, oil and gas that we don’t need to be economic slaves to the rest of the world, but the current EPA won’t let us use them. We need an EPA but not the one we have.

        We have stuck our finger at the sky and told God we don’t want Him interfering with “our” rights, as if we had any rights that did not come from God. His tolerance with us has just about been reached. He recently said: “My hand of judgement will stretch forth and all will feel it, some much more than others. Fear not!” That was November of last year but God always gives us time enough to prepare. Pity those “poor fools” (as Mr. T. used to say) that have no relationship with God and don’t even know they can have one.

        Sadly this administration is pro-Sharia Law and that may be why they are pushing at the UN to pass international laws that will bring our Constitution under the umbrella of the UN (laws like small arms registration and what vitamin size we can take). As long as the citizens of the United States are armed no amount of demonic Sharia will take over this country. Freedom as we know it and Sharia are totally opposites. They cannot co-exist.
        If we just elect more of the same old same old we may find out if that is true, right here in the United States.

        The Bible mentions a thousand years of peace before the world ends and it also says that it will be like it was in Sodom and Gomorrah. What does that mean? No one can be absolutely sure, but I cannot see how we could possibly have a thousand years of peace unless mankind is blasted back to the Iron-Age and it takes us that long to recover before we can have another world war. Of course glyphosate resistant corn and soy and sugar and cotton seed may reduce the world’s population more than nuclear weapons. They are a great cause of infertility and apparently autism and are in 75% of our processed foods, if not more, although they are illegal in much of the world.

        “Wars, and rumors of wars, famine and plagues and epidemics, earthquakes in many places, and this is not yet the end,” said non other than Jesus Himself.

        We are living in some of the most interesting times in the world. May God help us because they are soon going to get a whole lot more interesting.

      • DaveH

        Flashman says — “look…i am not a “liberal”, not by a long shot”.
        Another of Flashman’s many lies. Sure you are, Flashman. You are a Liberal Progressive. Everything you say is aimed at promoting Big Government, mostly in the Liberal way, but sometimes in the NeoConservative way.
        Fortunately, most of the regulars know that you have no credibility so I needn’t spend so much of my time exposing you.

      • JC

        Flashy says:

        September 21, 2012 at 10:39 am

        JC…the TPers “meaning” of the Constitution is so far out of touch with reality..that’s like saying Santa Claus Versus the Martians is a factual documentary…

        How so?

      • JC

        Flashy says:
        September 21, 2012 at 10:39 am
        JC…the TPers “meaning” of the Constitution is so far out of touch with reality..that’s like –saying Santa Claus Versus the Martians is a factual documentary…
        ————————————————————————————————————-

        I’d love to hear you qualify that bunch of BS.
        Obviously you can’t, so I won’t hold my breath.
        We’ll just file it under “more garbage from the mouth of flashy”.

    • hipshotpercusion

      Flashy is one of those useful idiots Lenin talked about. He will be one of those who will receive the Stalin treatment.

    • Sirian

      Flasho,
      Hummm, trying to bait people into another one? LOL, have at it boy, you’re very well known around here for nothing more. LOL, enjoy yourself

    • don

      flashyless has been drinking of the coolaid. loves liberism an thinks everthing is fine .we refuse to let america sink to the depths that flashless an obama wants to carry it.

    • Nobody’s Fool

      Flashy pants is clueless. Or drunk. Or both.

      • dcjdavis

        He can afford to get drunk. He’s paid to spout his junk.

      • Gary L

        Flashy is full of it. His articulations however do not cover up the scent.
        What is this PEW?

      • eddie47d

        What do you call those on the right who spew misinformation and political propaganda? Are they also drunk? Some of you can’t present facts so you head straight for the bottle err… name calling.

      • DaveH

        Eddie, you wouldn’t know facts if they had teeth like piranhas and bit you on the butt.

      • eddie47d

        Speaking of name callers and Dave pops in to say hello. Still crotchety much Dave?

    • Penny R. Freeman

      Yes Republicans and Democrats are responsible for all America’s problems. And Obama came on the scene at a very convenient time in order to push his ideaology down our throats. But he’s the one responsible for paralyzing our military and doing everything possible to destroy our self-defense strength. That’s an open invitation to our enemies to walk through our borders and destroy us. It’s already been proven by the CBO that Obamacare will be even more punishing on the “middle class” than anything imagined at the time the law was signed. And if you don’t know there are enough new taxes buried in that law to totally rob all of us of a decent future and enslave us forever. Didn’t you get Obama’s comments when he thought the mic was off? He’s cut some sort of deal with Putin. Why do I say that? He told Medvedev to tell Putin to be patient. This is his last election and after it he will have more leverage. If that doesn’t sound like a president scheming against the people of this country I’d like to know what you think it is. He has the Muslim Brotherhood as guests to the White House, but refuses to meet with Israel’s Netanyahu. Sound like someone who backs Israel? Now there’s been a substitute American flag designed with his campaign emblem taking the place of the field of stars. Why doesn’t that sound like a person who believes he is a dictator, which he may soon be, rather than the president of a free nation to you? Even his “forward” emblem is related to communism. Get your head out of the sand before your future is destroyed. The only people Obama helps, and even those he eventually throws under the bus, are the ones who financially support his campaign. If you still don’t believe he’s showing you a false face yet, read “Throw them all out” and the “2016″ book. I’ve watched politics very closely for over fifty years and have never seen any politician have so many negative books, newspaper and magazine articles written about them or one whose fellow party members desperately run away from him because they fear he’ll cost them their reelection. Haven’t you caught onto the meaning of ‘fundamentally transform” this country? If you change the fundmentals of anything you are destroying and remaking its base. Is communism/socialism/marxism where you want to go? Do you want to deny your children and grandchildren a decent future? Frankly with the way he’s turning Americans against one another I don’t doubt that if he wins this election there will be a second American revolution. Those of us unwilling to follow the dictates of that pompous liar aren’t going to willing allow anyone to destroy our country’s future. And despite what his propaganda media are telling you the number of tea party and other groups reacting against him and his overtaxation and divide and couquer politics is growing not falling.

      • Bay0Wulf

        Correct in pretty much all aspects. Liberal/Left/Democrats are not our friends they are Politicians. Republicans are likewise not our friends either as they are Politicians also. Over time both of these parties are happy to throw “We The People” and Our Country under the bus of their own Political Ambitions. The TEA Party is a young vetting system … it would be nice if I could figure out which of the “TEA Party” organizations is the “real” one. However, they are doing an outstanding job for having been around for less than … 6? years.

        I am voting straight Republican this time around although I have no faith in Mitt … we MUST get rid of this parasitical Socialistic Anarchist who has a “Dream” (Nightmare to me) as he (and his Administration) IS doing as much as possible to destroy what the USA is about.

        The Republicans have recently shown how uncomfortable with the TEA Party & New Conservative Right they are by creating a new ruling to basically “ban” them and their candidates from their party. The Libertarians are interesting but too socially Left for me also.

        I believe it is time to seriously re-vamp and promote the Constitution Party (a real 3rd party) to give the TEA Party and New Conservatives a place from which to strike at the rotten core of our 2 Party Political System. We need to begin to change things … we NEED HOPE and CHANGE alright just not the BS & Garbage we have been getting from Our Government for the last 70+ years.

        We need to stop what has been happening. We were willing to work from “within the system” to make things change but … it seems the system does not want us. We must force a CHANGE because “we cannot just pick up our toys and go home.”

        THIS IS OUR HOME. It is time to throw the cretins OUT!!!!

      • HH

        A hearty AMEN to that!!! I still want to write in Ron Paul tho!

      • Lynnette

        HH…you write in Ron Paul, you will be giving your vote to Obama. Please do not do that. Ron Paul was an excellent choice, but powers that be thought otherwise. Be that as it may, the goal is to oust Obama.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        No, it isn’t.

        Our goal is to return Liberty to the United States.

        It isn’t about Obama, it isn’t about Romney.

        It is about stopping the Progressives (which is both, Obama and Romney) from turning the United States into something it was never meant to be.

        That aside, she is right on the specific part about not writing in Ron Paul, although, the reason for that is misguided.

        Don’t write in Ron Paul, because he will not be registered for a write-in candidacy in most, if not all, districts that require it (which is a hell of a lot), and any write-ins for him in those states, won’t even be tallied. They will be the equivalent of leaving that part of the ballot blank, so you would be better off casting your vote for Gary Johnson instead of writing in Ron Paul.

        Casting your vote, for a candidate, who’s name isn’t even going to be tallied? Ok… yeah, that’d be a wasted vote. :(

        – Smoov

      • Lynnette

        I agree. It’s about taking back our country. Personally, I’d like to gut our government and start over. Only those that have proved themselves to be on track with our constitution get to stay, much like they want to do to teachers. I’d like to see them stripped of their riches they made in office and sent to the poorhouse with the rest of us. I think their salaries should be equated with effort…. just like us. Our country is broken and we need to fix it because those we have elected to do the job suck.

      • HH

        Exactly what I’ve been sayin’ Lynnette!!! I’m with ya gal!!!

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Oh, as for their salaries? IMHO, nobody gets to vote on their own pay raises.

        When we vote for the candidates, we should also be able to vote to give them a 1% raise from the previous 2-year cycle. No more than 1%.

        Then, it would be in their own best interest, to not only remain responsive to the people, but also work hard to keep our country out of debt, and rein in inflation by putting a halt to the money-flooding they keep doing.

        No politician in their right mind, is going to devalue the currency by 20%, if the best they can hope for, is a 1% raise, if the voters approve it.

        The money printing would come to a screeching halt. We got enough money. The only printing we should be doing, is a 1:1 replacement of old bills/coin being taken out of circulation due to damage. Give the value, a chance to catch back up to the paper.

        – Smoov

      • DaveH

        Libertarians are too socially left? So you like Freedom, but only if it applies to you, Penny? If somebody is doing something you don’t approve to their own bodies or property, why is that of concern to you? As long as the Politicians can keep dividing the country between those who want to help themselves to other peoples’ money, and those who want to help themselves to other peoples’ choices, we will continue to see ever-growing Government. And they like that.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        It doesn’t even matter if the Libertarians are socially permissive or restrictive anyways, and they actually, are neither.

        The Fed gov’t has no business meddling in social issues to begin with, that’s one of the big problems.

        There are plenty of Libertarians who are personally against drugs, personally against prostitution, personally against same-sex marriage, etc etc etc, but who also, are personally against the Fed Gov’t dictating to a free people what they choose for themselves.

        This is what makes Libertarians, even more conservative, than the Republicans ever will be, as the Republicans want to use the Fed Gov’t to dictate personal behavior.

        The Democrats are Progressives…
        The Republicans are Progressives…

        The Progressives are the problem in this country, not These Progressives, or Those Progressives, but Progressives.

        Pointing the finger at Those Progressives while defending These Progressives is just lunacy.

        The Dems and the Reps aren’t against the Progressives at all… they ARE the Progressives.

        The Libertarians, are the next largest party, who aren’t Progressives, and are directly challenging them.

        Wake up and break free from the whole Democrat/Republican farce that plays out election after election and see them for what they truly are.

        – Smoov

      • Bay0Wulf

        There are many issues with Libertarians. They are too Socially Left. You can say that they only want the right to do with their bodies … & etc but what happens when it overflows into society as a whole? What happens if it is destructive to their neighbors and their town?

        Libertarians have some very interesting points of view but it you look at them very carefully you might find that it is very close to anarchism. Libertarians (many Libertarians have radically different views of Libertarianism) are not completely coherent as to what they want but it seems that they want “liberty” without responsibilities.

      • DaveH

        Sorry Penny,
        My comment should have been addressed to Bay0Wulf.

      • DaveH

        Bay0Wulf says — “What happens if it [Libertarian Freedom] is destructive to their neighbors and their town?”
        What happens, Bay0Wulf, when your hired killers break into their homes, and even homes of innocent people, and terrorize or even kill them?
        If people on drugs harm other people physically, then you have legs to stand on when it comes to punishing them. But when they haven’t harmed anybody else, then you, Bay0Wulf, are the aggressor, plain and simple. What do we do about your harmful kind?

        Bay0Wulf says — “Libertarians have some very interesting points of view but it you look at them very carefully you might find that it is very close to anarchism.”.
        And? Somehow we got along just fine before 1900, Bay0Wulf, with Government that was 1/13th the size of Government today. Why do you think that would be a problem now?

        Bay0Wulf says — “Libertarians (many Libertarians have radically different views of Libertarianism) are not completely coherent as to what they want but it seems that they want “liberty” without responsibilities.”.
        Then they aren’t Libertarians, Bay0Wulf. Libertarians are champions of Personal Responsibility.

        You, Bay0Wulf, are a misinformer.

      • JC

        Bay0Wulf says:
        September 21, 2012 at 4:04 pm
        There are many issues with Libertarians. They are too Socially Left. You can say that they only want the right to do with their bodies … & etc but what happens when it overflows into society as a whole? What happens if it is destructive to their neighbors and their town?
        ______________________________________________________________________

        A common misconception. All Libertarians agree that where one person’s rights end where another’s begins. So how can one individual become destructive to others without committing a crime? Not to mention that Libertarians, in order to be Libertarians must allow that everyone will enjoy the same rights and freedoms they themselves demand.
        “With Liberty and Justice For All” … Sound familiar? :)

      • Carolyn

        Penny, very well stated. Being a person myself who doesn’t follow the pack AND being a Conservative/Tea Party Member, I don’t understand people NOT believing in the Constitution. It’s simply written and the words have lived thru 200+ years. In all my 62 years, I have never seen the blatant actions of a President and his supporters do more to destroy America. I can’t stand to watch obama lie time after time but I listen so I can counter his lies with truth to people I know…so many of them are shocked when they hear the truth. If his supporters would research just his campaign rhetoric against what he has actually done, it would be easy to see the discrepancies. It is like his followers have blinders on…Sad for America!!

      • Lynnette

        Carolyn…I’m not affiliated with any party and yet I hear you. I think it would be ever so grand to pack up EVERY Obamaite and send them packing to a 3rd world country to live. Maybe then they would appreciate the country they live in that allows them to spout off so freely about how wicked we are. They can experience Obama’s grand plans in action first hand. They will be able to enjoy having every liberty they have here stripped from them and become dirt poor. Like you, I cannot believe that they blindly believe all of Obama’s [expletive deleted] rhetoric. I cannot believe that they cannot see he is selling us out. They need to know first hand what it’s like to live under the sword. Since they have no pride in America, I say send them where they truly belong. The Middle East is a good start, or maybe Kenya where the prez came from, how about Africa where it’s rife with aides and dictators reign supreme, or maybe China, or Russia, N. Korea. Okay…some aren’t 3rd world, but you get my drift. We don’t even have to send them that far. How to Central America? Hell, send them to Mexico and see just how much they will be able to spout off. I say let them find out what Obama is all about and what he has planned. Maybe then when they have learned, then they can be American.

      • Gea

        There is an active, well paid effort to subvert American Constitution by American Muslims with the help of their Big Muslim Brother in the White house, who is living up to his middle name, Hussein, and who is directly and indirectly responsible for the Muslim mobs raping and murdering US Ambassador in Libya. If Qaddafi and Mubarak were in power, they would never let Americans to be murdered and US Embassies attacked by Muslim Barbarians.

        Instead Muslims in America apologizing for their Muslim brothers in the Arab countries, they cry foul because their “holly cow”. Mohamed, is uncovered for what he really is, a pedophile polygamist. who married Aisha, one of his 12 wives, when she was 6 and he was 51 and had sex with her when she was 9 and he was 54. He was also a rapist who raped a 17-y young Jewish women whose husband he had beheaded several hours before together with 900 Jewish men and boys from Medina, because the Jews laughed when he claimed that God spoke to him.. American Muslims cry “Islamophobia” rather then admitting that their supremacist ideology of Islam, dreamed up by a pedophile polygamist rapist and murderer, Mohamed, is incompatible with US Constitution, and needs to be reformed. Barak Hussein Obama extolls Koran and Islam, while dissing Bible. Muslims also claim that Hebrew and Christian scriptures are distortions while Koran, which is a nasty piece of work is a “true word of Allah”. Koran is as vile a book as Terry Jones claimed and needs to be discussed publicly so that Americans understand what Muslims want: rule over everybody!

        Now these American Muslims, most of whom had not read Koran to see how vile it is,want “respect”, which Islam does not give to non-Muslims and instead claims that all non-Muslims believe in false gods. In any decent country a criminal , such as Mohamed (pedophile, polygamist, rapist and murderer) would be either executed (USA) or put to prison for life (in Israel where they have no death penalty so terrorists get away with murders when Israelis are kidnapped and exchanged for those terrorists). American Muslims (who every couple of weeks get caught wanting to blow up something in) are trying to subvert US Constitution, to prevent truth about Islam and Mohamed to come up, waging stealth jihad in the midst of America, paid for by Saudi and Iranian oil money!.

        Last Wednesday I went to an event organized by CAIR and NAACP, called “Islamophobia” and “racism” in elections, where some Turkish, and Arab Muslims were demanding limitation to the First Amendment, helped by the politically correct nice fools, who are too lazy to read Koran and learn about history of Islam which would make them see why Obama is a the most dangerous and vile President who is endangering liberty and human rights, while pretending to be American and defending justice and respect for everybody. Where was respect for US Ambassador in Libya and where were live bullets for US marines to defend lives of American diplomats last week?..

        At the UN, Barak Hussein Obama is helping OIC to prevent freedom of speech about Islam, while 57 Muslim majority countries are free to defame Isarel and Jews to their heart content. Barak Hussein is a traitor to American values and American people. He must resign!

      • Wayne Leach

        ……..impeached! Get some backbone, Congress! But then, most of you are cohorts, so never mind.

      • Gea

        http://www.cagle.com/2012/09/foreign-policy-gaffes-abound-but-not-from-who-you-might-think/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_content=cartoon-comment&utm_campaign=092212
        Rick Jensen: Foreign Policy Gaffes Abound, But Not From Who You Might Think

        By now you’ve undoubtedly heard the news about Mitt Romney’s gaffes, faux pas and general ignorance of foreign policy as reported throughout the mainstream press. You recognize the fact that such statements might indicate such rank ignorance of the world disqualifies one from occupying the Oval Office. So, with your mental scorecard, you thoughtfully consider each reported gaffe to be filed in the gray matter cabinet as “dumb stuff Romney said.”

        Rick McKee / Augusta Chronicle (click to view more cartoons by McKee)

        This week’s gaffe is as poignant as all the others: “Palestinians don’t want peace.” Yes, Romney said that. Yes, it proves he is a master of the obvious. Palestinians have lobbed more than 440 “peaceloving” rockets into civilian neighborhoods this year, causing Israelis to build a warmongering, aggressive bomb-proof school in Sderot. Would you vote for a presidential candidate who publicly celebrates a Nazi sympathizer on Israel Independence Day and, while in Poland, blames the Polish people for concentration camps installed by the German invaders?

        Who so misunderstands Israel and its Prime Minister that he gets frustrated during a conversation and bolts from discussions in a hissy-fit… on two separate occasions?

        Who took no action to protect U.S. citizens following warnings of impending attacks on U.S. embassies within days of 9/11?

        Who failed to back Iran’s Green Movement and to support freedom fighters in the Free Syria Army, telling them, publicly, he won’t help arm them until after the election?

        Who sends Russia a “reset button” they don’t understand while they send arms to Syria, which we do understand?

        Who apologizes to a crowd in Austria for not being able to “speak Austrian” when no such language exists? At least if he said he didn’t “speak South Philly” he’d ne referring to an actual dialect.

        Yes, one of the candidates for President committed all of these foreign policy gaffes, and even publicly apologized for one of them. Stirring old resentments and generating thousands of negative reactions on news media websites and social media sites, he called a German death camp in Nazi-occupied Poland a “Polish death camp.” Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski was shocked beyond belief at a ceremony to honor resistance fighter Jan Karski, saying, “It’s a pity that such a dignified ceremony was overshadowed by ignorance and incompetence.”

        You may also consider using the words “ignorance and incompetence” to describe sending a message on Twitter that encourages your supporters to buy the candidate’s logo sweatshirts at 2:20 p..m the same day you are addressing a solemn ceremony transferring the remains of the Benghazi U.S. Consulate at 2:46 p.m. Really.

        And your message on 9/11 is, “The election is in 8 weeks. Sign up to volunteer.” Really. At 7:07 a.m. On 9/11.

        Some of you may think 9/11 is insignificant. You have that right. I don’t want a President who just goes through the ceremonial motions while obviously more concerned with campaigning. Surely it’s obvious to you that these voluminous international embarrassments and failures are not those of Mitt Romney, whose major gaffe was to acknowledge, “Palestinians don’t want peace,” but rather they come from our current President, Barack Obama.

        Perhaps you’re also wondering why these major failures and public foot-tastings of President Obama haven’t generated as much media reaction and outcry as “Palestinians don’t want peace.”

        Of course you are.
        —–

        © Copyright 2012 Rick Jensen, distributed exclusively by Cagle Cartoons newspaper syndicate.

        Rick Jensen is Delaware’s Award-Winning Conservative Talk Show Host on 1150AM WDEL and 93.7FM HD3, Streaming live on WDEL.com from 1pm – 4pm EST. Contact Rick at rick@wdel.com, or follow him on Twitter @Jensen1150WDEL.

      • Gea

        Barak Hussein Obama is a great storry teller and a deceiver, as commanded by Mohamed, when a Muslims lives among non-Muslims. Obama was elected on a combination of the whtie guilt and promisses he made to dysfunctional mobs who live on public assistance, because nobody taught them them that people shouild work for a living and not expect government to take care of them and their brood from various boyfriends with US taxpayers money!.

        While Barry Hussein Satoro Obama grew up from the age 10-18 with his upper middloe class white grandparents in Hawaii, being tutored by Frank Marshall Davis, a black member of the Hawain Communist Party, he had been indoctrinated with Marxism which he is now pushing on US. While Barry Satoro was a little boy (6-10 y old) living with his Marxist Muslim step father, a Marxist Muslim working as a spokesman for oil industry i Indonesia, he was indoctrinated with Islam, which he never grew our of, although pretending that he is a Christian for political purposes.

        As Barak Hussein Obama, he had lived up to his given middle name, and had destroyed American pride in its freedom and human rights, while grovelling to barbarians of the Muslim world. Hussein Obama should be tried for treasonm because he is responsible directly and indirectly for the murders of American citizens all ove the world. Directly, because he prevented US marines to carry live munition to defend US ambassador, and by helping bring Islamic barbarians to power in Arab countries, and indirectly by appologtizing to Muslim murderers rather then defending the truth and fithting for human rights. He is the biggest liar that American ever witnesses, becaues his taqiyya is the most skillful, using sweet words of political correctness that media and academics gobble up like candies.

      • moonbeam

        Lynette writes, “Personally, I’d like to gut our government and start over.”

        This is exactly what Iceland did.

        http://itmakessenseblog.com/2012/06/18/global-elites-thrown-out-of-iceland-iceland-dismantles-corrupt-govt-then-arrests-all-rothschild-bankers/

        They handled their business and handed their woefully corrupt government (such as what we have now) and the bankers their asses, which is what we should be doing. They actually had them all thrown in JAIL. It just goes to show what WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can accomplish when we’ve had enough of their bullsnot.

      • DaveH

        It won’t be long then, Moonbeam, until the US Leaders declare Iceland a terrorist nation, or a nuclear threat, or some other such excuse to attack them and avenge the Bankers.

      • Palin16

        As the future US Ambassador to Iceland, I would like to inform you that Iceland has no army, navy, air force or marines. Their only miltary is the coast guard, to protect their fishing rights. The US built their international airport in Keflavik during WWII for refueling purposes for European bound aircraft. Ronald Reagan once held a summit meeting with Gorbachev in Reykjavik. Also, they are not part of the European Union. I am planning my third trip there next year.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      You are the enemy of the USA…you and your ilk will be defeated in the end… you and your ilk will cause a lot of pain and suffering on the people of the USA and also alot of bloodshed..But in the end you will hang from the lamp posts of freedom…

    • daniel

      Flashy, if you consider all sources before you make a decision or voice an opinion then i would strongly suggest you check ou the Washington Examiner. They did a whole series on Obama with documentation and well over 40 pages long.
      You cited WaPo and variety as sources for your take on the movie 2016. WaPo is in the buket for O and Variey? You know conservatives refer to Hollywood as Hollyweird and for good reason so that opinion won’t mean much.
      I watched the movie probably from a different angle.

      • eddie47d

        Negative books sell and make lots of money Penny. Negative TV programs sell and make money too and Conservatives are leading the charge. In other words the Conservatives are showing their negative side in spades and that could easily get Obama reelected.

      • Flashy

        Daniel…the Examiner is owned by ultra conservative billionaire Philip Anschutz, ranked by Forbes as the 37th richest man in America.

        Just so you know your ‘news’ that you place so much sand in is being controlled and fed by someone not necessarily having the interests of the common man in mind.

    • Mikey

      According to Fleshy’s logic (and other leftists), it’s Bush’s fault that Obumma want’s to convert the U.S. into a third world country.

  • Warrior

    And don’t forget, every senate democrat is an accomplice. VOTE EM OUT!

    • Jody

      Some of the Republicans are accomplices as well (beginning but certainly not ending with Orin Hatch). I believe Freedom Works has all the voting score cards. Please check there before you vote to see who’s REALLY doing what.

      • Debbe

        This is serious here. You vote for Obama and you will be part of the downfall of America. Shame on you that you do not get it!

      • Baloney Toney Mahoney

        The Mahoney Man says: YES!!! The REPUBS. over & over have let him get away with violations of our laws & Constitution, just like the media!!! With all his repulsive malfeasance, why has there not been one instance of trying to impeach…Holder as well????????????????

        DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eddie47d

        Probably the same reasons the Bush/Cheney team couldn’t be impeached? How about Colin Powell who took fake vials of anthrax to the UN to make claims for war. He now regrets he did that but was all that lying worth it?

      • Old Henry

        Yeah Jody, and the nit-wit Sarah Palin ENDORSED Hatch in the primary. We had a REAL chance to rid ourselves of that scum-bag and now we will have Reid Lite for 6 more years, unless we can get him to assume room temperature.

      • Old Henry

        Mahoney Man:

        The Republican Party is nothing more than Democrat-Lite. They go hand-in-glove toward the same goal. Listne to that atheist anti-America Rove whenever someone begins to question the commie Kenyan’s eligibilty.

        Vote Gary Johnson.

      • Stuart Shepherd

        Baloney Tony is 100 percent right. If you’re sworn to uphold the constitution, that includes Republican senators, and they should be jumping up and down in the aisles, not pretending he’s a “nice guy,” while they see the destruction of American happen before their eyes. They act like it doesn’t really matter. The most effective thing would have been to NOT appropriate a rise in the debt ceiling when they had the chance. That would have brought everything to a halt until we got a balanced budget, etc., no matter what the immediate consequences. Everyone who’s voted for a liberal since 1960 and every Republican who’s voted for big government programs requiring tax dollars is also to blame. This has all been a predictable decline and destruction of America and obama is just the coupe de grace- the icing on the cake. It’s all over. Romney, another republican walking corpse, has no chance.

      • DaveH

        Let’s face it, Jody — MOST of the Republicans are accomplices. Both parties have been building the Leviathan Government that we now have for the last 100 years.
        Read this Free book by one of the greatest thinkers of our time, to learn more of the reality:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • DaveH

        There is only one Political party that currently understands what Freedom really is — the Freedom to control your own body and property as long as you don’t trespass on the bodies and properties of others. Government needs to be shrunk dramatically. They are 13 times the size they were in 1900. If we cut them back by 2/3 they would still be 4 times the size they were in 1900.
        The only chance we have to accomplish that is to start joining and growing the Libertarian Party. Even then we will have to be vigilant to keep the Sociopaths and Crony Capitalists from infiltrating and weakening the Libertarian Party principles, as they have with the Democrat and Republican parties 100+ years ago. There is no better time to back them up:
        http://www.lp.org/platform

      • DaveH

        For those who want to understand Libertarian principles as outlined by the Father of Libertarianism — Murray Rothbard:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto.pdf

      • http://speedle speedle

        Old Henry says vote for Gary Johnson, and become irrelevant.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        @speedle

        pfft… and you imagine yourself to be relevant, now?

        As long as you continue to help keep the Dems and the Reps in power, you will never, EVER, be relevant.

        – Smoov

      • not swayed by a movie

        Good Lord, I just hope that the American Peoples votes cannot be swayed one way or another by a flippin movie…Jeez y’all…Seriously??????

      • deerinwater

        “Shame on you that you do not get it!” and shame on you for not understanding personal freedom afforded us by the same constitution that many here profess to defend and the right to offer a descenting voice without being subject to ridicule and intimidation, as you make claims of destroying America if “other’s don’t see things you way.

        Shame on you for shaming others.

      • JC

        not swayed by a movie says:
        September 21, 2012 at 4:13 pm
        Good Lord, I just hope that the American Peoples votes cannot be swayed one way or another by a flippin movie…Jeez y’all…Seriously??????
        ____________________________________________________________________

        It isn’t fiction though. It’s an expose of a criminal imposter living in our White House.
        Not “just a movie”….and I hope it wakes one hell of a pile of Americans right up to this cancer.

      • weary conservative

        And John Boehner.

      • Robert Smith

        That dumb moie has sooooooo many lies in it. For example: “- D’Souza says Obama removed a bust of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill from the Oval Office because Churchill represented British colonialism. White House curator William Allman said the bust, which had been on loan, was already scheduled to be returned before Obama took office. Another bust of Churchill is on display in the president’s private residence, the White House says.”

        Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/20/3012852_p2/correction-2016-obamas-america.html#storylink=cpy

        It’s so sad that so many outright falsehoods are in 2016, yet nobody has come up with any substanciated falsehoods in “Ferenheight 911.” Wow did Bush look dumb in front of those kids when he was told about WTC.

        Rob

      • HH

        (Obama removed a bust of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill from the Oval Office because Churchill represented British colonialism. White House curator William Allman said the bust, which had been on loan, was already scheduled to be returned before Obama took office. Another bust of Churchill is on display in the president’s private residence, the White House says.”)

        Notice that it’s the White House that says it’s there, have YOU seen it in the oval office? Has anyone else? Ok, let’s say D’Souza was misguided on the bust thing, what about the REST of the movie? Speculation? Yes but the implications are enormous to say the least. There is much truth in his “speculations” the evidence is there you’re just too blind to see it.

      • dfinch

        The US was being prepped for years. Long before Hatch. Obama is here to finish it. He’s been groomed for this for years.

      • Gordon

        dfinch, you are exactly correct. The Dems groom their candidate for at least 20 years…. use clinton as an example.. In 1977 they were introducing him as POTUS 1996.

      • Jeff

        Romney’s been preparing to run for President since 1967 – when he first got greying temples.

      • Wayne Leach

        And, Hillary has been running since her high school days. What about Jimmy Carter? Was he groomed for decades? Just curious, not arguing.

      • Jeff

        Every Congressman, Senator, and Governor looks in the mirror and sees a potential President. Only a couple per generation will make it. So were the others being groomed too? It’s like saying someone was groomed to play in the NFL because he played in high school. Virtually all NFL players played in high school, but only 1 in 100,000 or more makes it to the NFL. Same with Congressmen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/luci.tomlin Luci Tomlin

      AMEN! When it does come out on DVD, every Conservative, whether you are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or just plain fed up with America ending up in the basement of the outhouse, should see it! Then it will be up to THEM to decide whether or not it is believable! He came to America under a cloud of deceit, remained unknown except to his Radical Foreign and Domestic Factions, and then suddenly, without a visible image, a rumored one appeared! He was brilliant, educated, came from an important and impressive background, and could radically and systematically “change” America for us!
      Never MIND that we found out later that all of it was rumor, he came with nothing! No skills, experience, talents, nor Political expertise! He had absolutely nothing to offer us except sweet deserts for what used to be the Democrat Party, his lemmings, young impressionable and gullible young people! WE were given green persimmon tea! As many unanswered questions he has refused to reveal, every sensible person in our beloved Country should be able to read him, decipher his intent, and without watching this movie! But for those who need a good Ophthamologist to readjust their “vision”, this may be it!

      • aggie

        Well Said!

      • Flashy

        from The Washington Post’s Michael O’Sullivan:

        “… slick infomercial…destined to irritate the president’s supporters while mobilizing his detractors, even as it is doomed to win precious few converts… fear-mongering of the worst kind.”

        From Variety’s Joe Leydon:

        “… for the bulk of its running time, the pic comes off as a cavalcade of conspiracy theories, psycho-politico conjectures and incendiary labeling.”

      • Liberty Lover

        Oustanding comment, Luci. Thank you. When I saw the movie on a weekday afternoon, the audience erupted in applause at the end. Two Russian ladies who sat next to my wife and me asked us afterward, “Why would Americans want the type of fundamental change Obama wants? We left Russia to escape that type of society.”

      • JC

        And Flashy?…what proof do they offer?

      • Gary L

        Flashy…film critics??? really???

      • Old Henry

        Well Flashy, just consider the source(s)- commie anti-America rags.
        The documentary is simply putting the truth out there – which NO ONE in the U.S. media has done / will do.

      • DaveH

        From Wikipedia — “The film has grossed over $30 million as of September 14, 2012, making it one of the highest grossing documentaries of all time”.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%27s_America

      • George P.

        I decided to watch Bill Maher when I learned that film maker Dinesh D’Souza was going to be on the show and see him defend his film. Sadly, it turned out to be a battle of wits with Bill Maher against an unarmed opponent.

      • DaveH

        Don’t confuse emotional appeal with wit, George.

      • Mary

        What a bunch of BS. Absolutely no proof of any conspiracy, just right wing fairy tales. Please people do your own research. The President has done or said nothing remotely connected with the crap D’Souza spews in his imagination. He believes Obama is living some kind of reincarnation thru his Father. Looks like D’Souza’s real Hindo roots from his home land in India, are showing through. He has never spoken too or met Obama. His book should be called “Dreams of an Idiot”. You all do realize the movie is fiction don’t you? Just because they call it a Documentary does not mean it is true. Wow, Repubs want so desperately to believe this BS because they hate Obama so much. They will fall for anything and these right wing nuts jobs know it so they just keep feeding them. Obama can’t even get the jobs bill passed through the do nothing Republican Congress. How on earth would he do all the things D’Souza says he will by himself ? You may not believe it, but Democrats would not stand for that crap either. Do you actually think the country would allow him to change the U.S. in the manner related in the book/movie? Use your common sense for heavens sake. He does not have that kind of power and he is not the devious man the conservative propaganda machine makes him out to be. They seem to think passing the healthcare bill was way worse than attacking Iraq and killing many innocent people and I am including our troops. Reforming healthcare has been discussed by Dems and Repubs for over 40 yrs. It was no conspiracy to socialize America, just to get more people health coverage to drive down the costs of those who are paying high premiums for their policies. We already have programs similar to this and they work fine for everyone. I do not see these people complaining about their tax money going to the big oil companies or to fund an unjustified war for over 10 yrs. Not everybody likes everything our taxes are used for but the lawmakers decide that because we have given them the power to make those decisions when we elect them. Obama has been the most unfairly treated President in the history of the U.S. He is not a socialist, he is not a communist, he does not want to put America under the UN control or colonize it. The real people destroying the country are the Tea Party vigilantes and folks like karl Rove, making all the false accusations. They have had their couple of yrs and accomplished nothing but obstruction, so it is time to get them out and restore some normalacy to the Republican party. Maybe then the country can be productive.

      • DaveH

        Luci says — “What a bunch of BS. Absolutely no proof of any conspiracy, just right wing fairy tales”.
        Then she proceeds to state mostly personal attacks, and conjecture with no evidence whatsoever to back up her fabricated facts. Typical Liberal Progressive.

        Luci says — “You all do realize the movie is fiction don’t you?”.
        No, Luci, we don’t. Perhaps you could tell us which parts are, and how you know that.

        Luci says — “How on earth would he do all the things D’Souza says he will by himself?”.
        He’s been doing it for 4 years now, Luci, with Unconstitutional executive orders such as the one mandating carbon taxes on industry after Congress was unable to muster enough votes to pass such a law Constitutionally.

        Luci says — “They seem to think passing the healthcare bill was way worse than attacking Iraq and killing many innocent people and I am including our troops”.
        Both are bad, Luci, but apparently in your Liberal world two wrongs make a right.
        When you take other peoples’ money by Force, Luci, to spend on the programs of your choice, you are nothing better than a common thief. It makes no difference if two of you wolves allow the one sheep to vote what’s for dinner. You are just part of the Society of Criminals, Luci:
        http://mises.org/daily/4125

        Luci says — “Not everybody likes everything our taxes are used for but the lawmakers decide that because we have given them the power to make those decisions when we elect them”.
        No, Luci, the Constitution does not give the Federal Government the Power to dictate peoples’ Health Care solutions, whether you Liberal Progressives vote for it or not.

      • DaveH

        Sorry Luci, the “Leave a reply to Luci Tomlin” messed me up.
        All of the Statements which I replied to were meant to be addressed to Mary NOT Luci.
        My humblest apologies, Luci.

      • Kinetic1

        DaveH,
        What’s the point of going lie by half truth through this movie? I’ve researched the facts, found the evidence (as could anyone who cares about the truth) and provided the facts about “Obama giving Brazil Millions to drill for oil” to readers on this site many times, but there it was again in this “documentary”! And here are all of you buying into the lies again. All this movie does is make you all feel good about what you believe and give you one more “authority” to quote, no matter how the facts stack up. Don’t count on it to do much to strengthen your numbers.

      • DaveH

        Kinetic,
        So you want people to just take your word for it? That’s a laugh riot, Kinetic. Please explain to me why people should take the word of a man who believes it’s okay to steal other peoples’ money as long as you use Government as your proxy thieves?

      • Kinetic1

        DaveH,
        How totally and predictably disingenuous of you. You know full well that, when debunking such myths as the one mentioned I provide links and evidence to back up my words. And just in case you have forgotten the facts (which seems to be a constant issue on this site) or you have been listening to Glen Beck’s fevered theories, here is a well written article from Forbes.
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/03/17/dispelling-the-petrobras-loan-myth-as-obama-heads-to-rio/
        You are the one who complains about people attacking and making specious claims when they don’t have a valid argument, yet here you are, not disproving what I have said, but trying to discredit me with claims as to my political philosophy. You’d be quite a man if you knew as much as you believe you do.

      • weary conservative

        I have it on pre-order at Amazon; will be shipped the day it’s available.

      • TexasRide

        Right Luci, this movie is about an arab right off the streets of a third-world country, an Indonesian- muslim, that was educated in a Madrassa through-out his formative years and beyond.. He speaks arabic and is fluent in several dialects. Doesn’t sound like the qualifications of an American President.

      • jag57

        Mary, you must be living in a dream world, or drank so much of that Democrat kool aid you can’t think straight. Why do you think a man that thought it would be great to have a black president, and voted for him, would be reading, supposedly, Obama’s own words, in Dreams From my Father? Have you even seen the movie? If you have, you would have heard Dinesh’s interview of George Obama, which sheds a lot of light on Obama, as an anti-colonialist. When Obama was running in 2008, I didn’t know all there was to know about him, but I did know enough to know I couldn’t vote for him. Four of my friends in the legislature brought Prop. C to a vote of the people of MO, Healthcare Freedom Act, which passed with over 71% of the vote. Why do you think it is okay to steal $716 billion from Medicare, to help pay for his Communist health control? Maybe you believe it’s okay to destroy the best health care system the world has ever known.

        Now, you might just think Obama is just that stupid, and incapable of restoring the health of our economy. Had Dinesh thought that, there would have been no reason for 2016, but Dinesh is smarter than that, so he traveled to 4 continents seeking information about the guy he voted for.

        I guess you like his Arab Spring, that has brought the Mid East, as well as part of N. Africa under the control of radical Islamists. Maybe you could tell me why we would have the right to attack a sovereign country that posed no security threat to the USA, when any fool would know this would bring people to power that hate the USA.

        Last but not least, I guess you think all law abiding American citizens should be disarmed, so only criminals, in and out of government will have guns.

        I could sit here and type all night, but I think you get the idea.

      • http://yahoo gator

        Luci, i have yet to see the movie, but i’m not sure i need to; just observing ‘barry’ for the last 3 years has spoken volumes.
        one sure proof of hussein’s ‘intended disasters’ is the obamacare charade. it is the beginning of the end for medical care in this country, my brother-in-law is a doctor, and he is getting out of the profession because of it. i have spoken with other doctor’s who feel the same.

    • http://Yahoo.com Art Burg

      Hey Warrior,he makes me sick every time I see him on TV.He doesnt have the guts to take responsabilities.We need to retire him in Nov.and send him back to Kenya.! I believe in his Blood he is Muslum.it’s just the [expletive deleted] media covers his ass all the time.

      • Old Henry

        Actually Art, we need to retire him to a cell at Leavenworth looking out the window at a gallows. Possibly in between Shrub and Chaney. Oh hell, why take up so much space? Put ‘em all in the same cell and save some money. I wonder how many members of Congress would fit into one cell?

      • DaveH

        Obama is just the tip of the iceberg. The Power-hungry Leaders and their Crony Capitalists have been taking our Freedom and our Money for a very long time. Read this, for example, to learn how Power-hungry Leaders in both Parties have been using wars to build their Power:
        http://library.mises.org/books/John%20V%20Denson/A%20Century%20of%20War%20Lincoln,%20Wilson%20and%20Roosevelt.pdf

      • Larry K.

        you got that right. i’m beginning to hate the government about as much as i hate those people who torture, starve and mistreat poor animals dogs etc. just watch animal planet and you’ll see what i’m talking about.

      • TexasRide

        Omaumau is only “the face” that our shadow-government. hides behind! They put him in power. He was selected not elected. They bought the Presidency.These are the ones we must find and deal with very soon or they will continue to keep their monkey dancing on the oval office desktop.

        There is no way they will let their monkey be voted out of power. They are too close to their goal…the destruction of our country.

    • Nobody’s Fool

      Republicans are no better. We are going to have to systematically remove all the incumbents from office, tell them to go home and get a job, seek some method of rescinding their “entitlement” to golden parachute “retirement” benefits, and make the service in the house and senate a privilege that lasts no longer than 3 terms for House and 2 terms for Senate. And while we’re at it, we should change the presidential term to one 6 year term, thereby eliminating the lame duck and the need for the president to ever campaign again–just get down to work. Of course if oBlamer had a six year term, he would totally destroy the country, so that would be a bad outcome. We must face facts, though. Our country is already doomed, by the Fed, by the commies in Congress, the foreign-born, homosexual commie Muslim in the White House, and the idiots that voted them in. We have, sadly, passed the point of no return. I weep for my children and grandchildren.

      • Old Henry

        Very well said Nobody’s Fool!!

        However, due to the number of IDOTS who are allowed to enter voting booths, it ain’t gonna happen. When it all goes bang they will be the ones standing around picking their nose, scratching their ass going Whaaa?

      • DaveH

        Term Limits are just a Placebo. The real problem is the dumbing down of Americans by the Public School Propagandists and their MSM cohorts.
        One term, two terms, whatever, will make little difference as long as people have no concept of Freedom and why it works.
        Here is a book that explains well, in mostly layman terms, why Free Markets (Capitalism) would bring this country back to Prosperity:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

      • TexasRide

        I agree up to the point where you say that our country is doomed!

        We are not doomed, the people can still get rid of this tyrannical, anti-American government! The Fifty States can do it or lead the way… Conservative governors can take their State back from the Feds, until we get a constitutional government back in place…and rid ourselves of the communists/marxists in both parties.

    • wandamurline

      I saw the movie and it was on a Wednesday mid-afternoon, and the house was packed. I thought that De’Souza was very nice in his documentary to Obama, considering how really ugly Michael Moore was to Wall Street and Bush. But, you get a clear and definitive picture of Obama and if you look at his record of the last four years, it makes perfect sense. I cannot believe the ignorancy of this country, that people can think that because they support him that they will be fine when everything comes undone, especially the hollywood idiots. They are so engrossed in Obama’s skin pigmentation (that he uses to his benefit as a shield of protection against anyone opposing his agenda….if a white president had done the things this man did, he would have been impeached and thrown out of office), the homosexual agenda and the murdering of unborn babies, they cannot see that their fortunes and lifestyle will be just as bad as ours under Obama should he get another four years. Example is Oprah Winfrey….she put everything on the line to get this ineligible in chief elected, and now she is practically banned from the White House….Moochelle doesn’t like her….Moochelle doesn’t like the rest of us either. Oprah went on cable TV and has lost about $350 million over the last year….she lost her viewers….she lost her “white” viewers…the ones that made her a wealthy woman. Now Glen Beck is on cable Dish Network Channel 212, and he is putting together a “real” bunch if investigative reporters and a news network….it is in the works….and he did it with his subscriptions to the internet over the last year and a half, he owes no one and can tell the truth without having to worry about the network putting their thumb on his head. It will grow while Oprah will langer, and she deserves what she got.

      • eddie47d

        Glenn Beck presents theories and hype. He turns everything into a crises and makes sure nothing gets resolved. These people make lots of money off of personal agendas.

      • DaveH

        Another useless bunch of conjecture by Eddie.

      • Michael J.

        I didn’t need to see a movie to know he was out to destroy this country.
        That he wouldn’t place his hand on the Bible when being sworn in as Senator should have been the first clue for most people, but no… The Koran will do just fine, but I’m not a Muslim.
        And of course he’s not anti-American, though he sat through twenty years of Rev Wright blowing smoke… I guess he didn’t inhale either. Surely he’s a friend to America… Just like our friends in the Afghan Security Force who’ve killed 51 of our soldiers so far this year.

        Question is, how did he manage to transform millions of fools into tools? He is the mother of all pied pipers when it comes to drawing support. Eskimo’s do not stand a chance if he decides to sell icecream. He is all that you see, but he ain’t what you think. He’s not The Antichrist, though he admires being compared to him. He was manufactured to fullfill a task. His task masters print money and kill presidents in a single bound.

        In November you’ll sit in a booth and pull a lever, but you shouldn’t choose either.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        We saw the movie on a week night last month. There were MAYBE 10 people in the theatre. I was disappointed because I’d expected to learn something new but everything in the movie was info I’d already known. The masses of sheeple need to see this movie.

      • http://www.facebook.com/angie.perezbarnum Angie Perez-Barnum

        The only solution to our country’s problem is found in 2 Chronicles 7:14 “if my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sins, and will heal their land.” I know, Americans, even tho you have conflicting beliefs, when disaster comes into America, just like 9-11 event, you forget all your differences and unite together and focus on helping one another. We have the same purpose to give good future to our families and to make people happy.
        This good attitude of Americans are the virtue that other nations envied !!! Do not let anything divide us, for we know deep down inside our hearts, we care for one another and want the best for our children !!! God loves you and so do we !!!

      • TexasRide

        Beck is doing what the MSM has refused to do, tell the truth and expose the facts!
        Even Fox,News “cuts bait” half the time.

        Beck was put here at this time to do a job! It may be “divine providence” or it just may be our “good fortune.” Either way, he has filled a long-time void….investigative reporting and bringing the facts to light.

        If you didn’t watch “The Project” you missed something important. Beck presented documents that laid out the step-by-step plan of the muslim brotherhood to bring down America. These are facts, documents confiscated in a raid.
        There are Eighty boxes of muslim brotherhood documents that was confiscated and this regime is hiding them! They won’t release these boxes of muslim brotherhood documents to congress! Beck went throught the steps as laid out, in print, by the brotherhood. The brotherhood BTW has total support of our black muslim foreigner.. This regime is sending them Billions of our tax dollars, as we post. Where is the outrage in the press, in congress, and in the streets.

    • al

      Vote to remove all democrats but do not be stupid. Obama is the main democrat that we have to remove. Obama has a large base of people who are going to vote for him because he has been stacking the Federal Government with new employees to the tune of just under an average of 10,000 per month since he took offfice. That is another 1/2 million votes in November.
      We cannot afford to have a third party in the mix against the only chance we have, which is Romney. Hold your nose and vote for him because if you do not, then you are voting for Obama by default of removing a vote from Romeny. Remember Ross Perot in 1992, he ended up giving the election to Clinton who ony got 43% of the vote. Ross took votes away from HWB, the same way votes for Gary Johnson will take votes away from Romney.
      We got Clinton and he, by Executive Order, modified the CRA of Jimmie Carter to target National Banks instead of S and Ls. And this is exactly what led us to this housing Mortgage mess we are in today. Clinton and Robert Rubin together created this economic collapse that has destroyed the World Economy. Never for a moment ever believe that the Progressive Liberal Democrats do not know how to destroy and reshape the world to what they wish it to be, and they con a lot of moderate RINOs into letting them do it…. Orin Hatch and John McCain are prime examples of dumb RINOs.

      • Debo

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      • http://liberty Tony

        To Al: Ihate to have to burst your bubble but Mitt the “Twit” has lost this election, especially, when he made the statement that “48-49%” of the pop. are “freeloading moochers”. What a fool. Sorry for the cynicism but it’s the truth. TGIF!!

      • Lynnette

        Tony…all is not lost. I plan on being one of those moochers soon and I still plan on voting for Romney. THAT’S how bad I want Obama gone. Romney didn’t get rich by standing around. If I had money to invest, I would want the one who knew how to make money to be the one to lead, because then I’d have a job and not be on the government dole.

      • HH

        (I plan on being one of those moochers soon and I still plan on voting for Romney.)

        Lynnette, if you’er talking about going on SS that is not considered being a moocher since you’ve probably been paying into it all your life like me. I just hope it’s still there when I get there in about 7 and 1/2 years!!!

      • Lynnette

        Nope….food stamps. I’m 4 years short of 64, the earliest I can collect and I am one of those unseen unemployed who can’t collect unemployment either even tho I paid into it.

      • HH

        WOW! My heart’s out for you gal. You can’t draw at 62? I can draw 12 or 14 hundred @ 62… if it’s still there!!! I don’t mind giving someone like you food stamps it’s those who don’t want to help themselves are the “moochers”!!! When I was growing up I had 5 siblings, dad was a public servant who lost his job under the Nixon administration, we had to go on food stamps. Mom went back to work and dad found a job a few months later and we have not had to use the food stamp system since. It’s there to help folks who struggle through hard times NOT to feed deadbeats!!! We’ve allowed the system to be abused and a lot of folks just take advantage of it… it’s not right and it need to be changed!!!

      • Lynnette

        HH…Thanks! I’ll have to check my facts, because I thought nowadays you had to be 64 to collect. My goal had been to work until I was 72 to have my full amount, but that’s all shot to hell now. Doesn’t look like I’ll be employed any time soon and things are getting really tough. We’re always living on the edge now and with what I suspect is coming, it will only get worse.

      • HH

        Yes Lynnette check with SS, I’m 54 and I think I can draw full benefits at 68 and 7 months, that is if it’s still there! The problem with Obamacare is that since it’s been signed into law they have the authority to rob our personal retirement funds like 401k’s, 403b’s, IRA’s and Roths. It’s so disgusting that our senators and congressmen/women threw us under the bus to pass this piece of crap called Obamacare!!! Hang in there Lynnette and let’s pray that we get through this, oust Obama and the crooked politicians and restore freedom and liberty back to the USA!!!

      • Debo

        Nonsense. Rubbish. Your’e talking through your hat. Your comment has no basis in fact. The federal payroll is less than when Obama took office. It sounds good anyway, but not true.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        seriously… if you have to hold your nose to vote for a candidate, what more sign do you need to see that you’re casting a bad vote? we do this year after year… this nonsense has to stop.

        vote for someone you don’t have to hold your nose for, and tell those “waste your vote” propagandists what they can do with their own noses.

        – Smoov

      • deerinwater

        “THAT’S how bad I want Obama gone. Romney didn’t get rich by standing around. ”

        Right ~! he leveraged buy-outs and sold off assets, then cooked the books to sell to other investors that and left them holding the bag.

        He got his money the old fashion way ~ borrow, extort , lie, cheat and steal by employing 50 shades of gray.

      • Lynnette

        Tell me…how did Obama get his $7.9 million? He certainly didn’t have it when he started and he didn’t work for it either that is unless he got it the same way Romney got his.

      • Mary

        wow, I cannot believe the ignorance. Stacking the vote with government workers that are sure to vote for Obama” You have no idea how the federal government works do you? Those working for the government are people living in the areas where there are gov. businesses. They are the members of the community who have applied and qualified for the jobs needed. There are personnel offices that oversea the hiring of these people. They are not sworn to be Dems or Repubs or support the President in office. For the most part, the President does not have a clue who these people are unless they work in the White House or have some direct dealing with him or his staff. His immediate staff are hired under different circumstances, not through the normal channels. Many people call Congress government workers , but they are elected by the people and fall under other rules also.They are the only ones who retire with full pay and do not have to put in a certain number of years. They make their own rules and by not voting against a pay raise they get an automatic raise each year. There are many Republicans who are federal workers and no one tells anyone how to vote, nor is it asked on the job application. Where do you people get this stuff?

      • Palin16

        Lynette, I started Social Security at 62. I also have an IRA and withdraw just enough each year to avoid paying federal tax.

      • Jeff

        Al:

        I agree. It’s a cryin’ shame that reality has such a liberal bias and so many of the things you want so badly to believe just ain’t so. I feel for you. Say hello to Peg and the D’Arcys for me.

    • Inventor64

      Also don’t forget that “Barak Hussein Obama” is a stage name. His real name is Barry Sortoro. He was born in Kenya and at age 7 moved to Hi. and assumed the Birth Papers of a still born baby.

      • Jeff

        And just what did you invent, pray tell – the concept of [expletive deleted]?

    • Proud to be a Believer

      Please everyone go to this link and where it is underlined in red, click and then click on the different chapters. Wow. I have sent this to all of my email group. Very very interesting. Lets see the Smilee’s the eddies and all the liberals on this site, refute these items. http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/21/vetting-obama/

    • Tess

      Agreed…get rid of Obama and the dirty crew he serves with. I think the reason so many arent afraid of him is because he acts so dumb and has so little command of our language. Well he may not be intelligent, but he as sure as hell SHREWD. Look at all he has managed to accomplish without ever earning it or working for it. That takes talent.

      • HH

        (Well he may not be intelligent, but he as sure as hell SHREWD.)

        On the contraire Tess, Obama just might be the most intelligent president we’ve ever had, problem is he’s NOT working for us!!! He works for the social communist that are trying to overthrow us!!!

    • Bob

      Are you sure both parties aren’t trying to destroy Amerika and turn it into an enormous prison with cameras and FEMA camps and road checks etc/

    • http://personaliberty.com Travis

      The liberal power elite are selfish, hypocritical, arrogant, self-righteous, and, worst of all, destructive of those around them. They are willing to saddle everyone else with rules and regulations that do not apply to them, and with higher taxes that they somehow escape paying. The Buffett Rule might sound like a great idea, but it would never apply to the Buffetts of this world. Or the Kerrys, Kennedys, or any other left-wing billionaire.

      Liberal do-gooders are always coming up with lovely schemes for redistributing other people’s money and managing other people’s lives. The problem is that all of these schemes do more harm than good. Welfare, which redistributes wealth to those who cannot work but also to those who avoid working or underreport income, is funded on the backs of those who actually do work. “Saving the planet” costs jobs but never actually saves anything. Killing fossil fuels increases energy costs and triggers inflation across the board. Yet the liberal elite blithely support every cause that comes along with no consideration of the cost to ordinary people. In doing so, they pad their already inflated sense of self-importance, and at no cost to themselves.

      Scratch the surface of the liberal elite, and you will find a monstrous contempt for those “beneath” them. Liberals like Barack Obama live and breathe in a realm of utter disdain for ordinary Americans, including congressmen who hail from what the president likes to call “Palookaville.” It is not just that they are out of touch; it is that they despise what is normal and decent. They would no more live in the heartland or send their kids to a public school than they would forego an exemption engineered solely to save them money — the same tax break for the rich that they publicly decry as soooo unfair. It’s no surprise that several prominent liberal Democrats made their fortunes as slum lords and ambulance-chasers. Others just married their money. – Jeffery Folks

      Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/are_liberals_immoral.html#ixzz27aXTWyWy

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Amen Warrior, this nation has to decide for freedom or Sharia law under obozo and his robot followers, it is easy under Romney we still have freedom under obozo you get change from freedom to the plantation and islamic law will be his Forward to the plantation and a commie state, under Romney the lesser of two evil you have a chance? under messiah, king and god of this world you can’t ever pay the price of freedom. Wake up American, HItler is back and lie’s when his lips are moving, and won’t shut up.

    • Pat

      Our biggest and most important job this year is to take a long hard look at ALL of our elected representatives and start cleaning house (and the senate). If they aren’t doing their job for America, fire them on November 6. We need business people, not lawyers, career politicians and radicals to represent us and take care of business in DC. Support good people outside your own voting area, this is a tough and dirty election with the Dem’s Chicago thug style politics and “hit and run” politics. Hit and run politics is when they run to the mainstream media with a “story”, the MSM airs it and gives it a thumbs up, the rebuttal comes in, the lies are exposed and the MSM ignores it.

    • gjmlb

      I agree with you, and one and all do please make it a point to see this 2016 film. The odd thing is that this is the first movie I had ever seen when it was over, there was dead
      silence, maybe people were in a state of shock. One of the shots near the end showing the redrawn map of the middle east, to be known as the United States of Islam does
      not show Isreal, guess Iran finally obliverated the State of Isreal, at least in their dreams and plans. Scary stuff guys, Obama is right on target for implementing the dreams of his father.

    • Michael Myer

      Dinesh D’Souza is nothing more than a “bomb-throwing” profiteer! He is the conservative alter-ego of Michael Moore, except his stuff is more fictitious and factless. The shock-writer D’Souza is the same guy that sat on the Bill Maher show a decade ago and called the Islamic Jihadist that flew jet airliners into the World Trade Center — “brave men”. He loves the “American Dream” because he can use our freedom of speech to make money, by spewing fictitious political lies across our theater screens — and amoral theater owners see an opportunity to make a buck, so they will show it! (Our local theater owner refuses to show it unless the author admits it is FICTION!!! — thank you Joe Carunchia.)
      D’Souza takes a scintilla of truth and runs with it like a lion slaying a gazelle — he yarns it into this dreamed-up theory of “anti-colonialism” and demonizes our President for having this fictitious belief.
      Extraordinarily, the inept American viewers fail to ask the million dollar question — What would be wrong with being an “American Anti-colonialist” anyway??? American has no “colonies”, unless one counts Puerto Rico, and America was founded on an anti-colonialist dream — remember, America was a colony that broke away from the colonial Empire or England?!?!?! What could be more anti-colonialist?!!?? THINK, DAMNIT!!!

      • Jeff

        D’Souza apparently thinks colonialism needs to be reinstituted, but I doubt he’d be willing to return to his village and have the fruits of his labor stolen by the British. When Newt first posited this “theory,” my first reaction was, “”Aren’t we all anti-colonialist?” That statement about Obama, while telling us nothing about him, reveals everything anyone needs to know about the Republicans.

        Didn’t D’Souza used to pretend to be an intellectual (“The End of History”)? Now, he’s just another follower of Donald Trump, like Ed Klein or Jerome Corsi.

      • jag57

        I would say not wanting to be controlled by a colonial power, is a little different than someone holding the most powerful and prestigious position in the world and doing everything they can to bring the country down, all the while lying about why the economy is in the toilet. Anyone that believes our Republic would survive 4 more years as a sovereign Republic, under this Marxist, is living in a dream world.

      • Jeff

        You are simply insane.

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