LOL…yep tellin’ it like it is.

O.K. sack of hammers, we get it. All praise your saviour. Not me .

Are you attempting to walk on water Mike? Still playing the fool and losing I see!

Obama without the teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

Exactly…as has been said, the “real Obama” finally stood up. Jeremy and the 3 O-disciple stooges must be in his campaign organization, as there’s no way any typical American trying to make their way in the world could have heard that speech and come up with the spin we’ve heard. It wasn’t just that he said, and I quote, Alex…”If you have a business…you…you didn’t build that!” He went on and on, dismissing that the successful made it because they were smarter or worked harder. He even stands by the rhetoric in this interview, emphasizing he made the point that “…somebody else made that happen”.

Not only are the points correct about businesses being the reason and the resources for infrastructure, governments continue to bloat and fail with the alarming lack of accountability we allow. Not only does California continue to run deficits in the pattern of DC, several of its cities are declaring bankruptcy! How does that happen? Here in Colorado, governments have proven so inept at even their basic responsibilities that private entities are having to build highways (E-470, expanding). Now, who built that? Meanwhile, the largest government spending spree in American history (ARRA) bought us what? Signs to tell us that this year’s road maintenance was brought to us by Barry?

The mental gymnastics that have been performed to defend this are obscene…one reporter referring to it as a grammatical error! Wow. The man is not only in deep over his head intellectually, his beliefs are actually some 100 years behind and destructive to the much more positive path the U.S.A. has been on. Sadly, this will all become clear if we are foolish enough to elect him again.

I’d vote for just about anyone against what I’ve seen from Obama & Biden. Mr. Romney just proved we’re lucky to have a smart fellow ideal for the time when he picked Paul Ryan to run with him. Maybe they can make a dent in the DC gorilla and stop the money train going all the way to DC to “trickle down” again. If I were Mitt, I’d roll out a new “You didn’t build that” ad every week from now ’til election day.

Yes Jimmy E-470 is mostly build with private dollars but not cheaper or don’t you consider high tolls a tax on the people living in that area. Those who are required to use that highway to get out of their neighborhood don’t have much reasonable choice now do they? W-470 was built by a Portuguese company so private firms don’t always favor American businesses either.

Paul B. well said, very well said.

Eddie470,
I was pointing out that we expect so little from our bloated, no-account governments that private enterprise had to step into what should be a government responsibility, namely building highways. If the state had done what we paid them plenty to do, it would be a state highway all around and the people in that area wouldn’t have to pay a toll. If we believe the unnatural spin of Obama’s remarks, that’s the benefit he claimed our benevolent governments provide for all those lucky people in business.
By the way, you may already know this, but there’s a private enterprise trying to solve the C-470 congestion (it should have been 3 lanes to begin with)…since government won’t.

Having said that, I’m fine with user fees, and would rather pay the divided usage fee for EVERY road I drive on than to send money all over the WORLD for stuff I don’t use. E470 may seem expensive, but it’s about the best-working transport route I’ve ever seen, and it’d be easy to pay for if we had all our tax dollars back from building roads in California, naval bases in Mississippi, saving an underwater city in New Orleans, and aiding countries from Algeria to Zimbabwe that don’t like us, anyway.

It’s just common sense: if we don’t have to send our money up 3 tiers (or more, County, State, DC), we’ll have fewer layers and more money to use locally…even if our local expenses are high. Folks like Obama want the money in DC ‘cuz they think they’re smarter than everybody else…He’s Billary Clinton on steroids! What surprises me about this blog is there are still folks who agree with him.

How many different kinds of idiot are you? In the world that existed before Communism, taxpayers built most of the roads. The government (simply) responded to the demands of taxpayers and organized the effort. That is the job of government, not to control us.

The problem with Obama’s little speech is that he believes and so stated that all business would not exist without the government. This is not only a wrong assertion, but a ridiculous one. In another speech, Obama stated that he would like to see many other businesses owned by the government (bailed out). In fact, the government would not exist without the taxpaying support of those businesses he so smoothly damns. If you believe as Obama does about business in this country, you are helping in the demise of the greatest experiment in self government to have ever existed. In fact you are helping to destroy yourself. A vote for Obama is called suicide.

Uncle Joe Biden says that America has turned the corner. But without realizing it the corner is in the direction of the road that leads to total Communist tyranny. We darn well better make an about face mighty soon.

How many government entities do I pay taxes to? Fed, state, county and local.
They rely on OUR tax dollars. They rely on US, to finance the services we use.
Did you build that road? Tax dollars went to a private construction company that builds roads.
So yes, a business owner out there can say,”I built that road”.
Caterpillar, John Deere, Barber Greene can say,”I built the machinery that built that road.
All government does is collect taxes from US and hires US to build it.
Some state workers may “maintain” some of the roads. Private contractors “build” them and do the major rebuilding of roads and bridges.

“Robert Smith” – SIR, YOU ARE ON POINT!

Hey Alex go screw yourself mofo, your the worthless POS that said GI’s in Vietnam were baby killers. Were you there moron? I doubt it.

eddie47 aka sack of hammers, thanks for that brilliant deduction now I get it.

Stop showing ypur ignorance Mike for it is flashing in bright red!

edduh I hear they have a job opening in Disneyland for Dumbo and you are qualified.

And so, ‘biteme, all roads connected to your lemonade stand were built by you, as were
all connections to your suppliers. You built the schools and taught your employees. You
built the hydroelectric plants that bring you electricity and the aquaducts that bring you water. You yourself fought in wars, alone, to protect your investment.

You, ma’am, are an idiot and a liar.

Quit lying: “I DID BUILD MY BUSINESS!!! WITH NO HELP FROM EVEN ONE PERSON! ”

Really? You built the roads yourself? You hired folks you educated yourself? You built the internet yourself?

Sheesh… It’s EASY to see what Obama meant. Why does the right have to lie about it?

Rob

Alex, you beat me to it. You are correct.

The taxpayers built the infrastructure…period! Doc, Alex and Robert Smith, the circle jerk trio.

AND therefore it was NOT built alone.

YOu three don’t get it. To you we work to support the government, which is exactly backwards. the government exists to support us. we pay taxes, just as we pay employees for the services they provide.

Sure we owe a responsibility to DC to continue to provide the services we require to succeed, but your philosophy is that without DC we would be dead in the water. that is totally wrong. Citizens used to do everything on our own, building roads, funding schools and education, but DC decided that they could do it more effectively, which I still doubt to this day which is better for us.

Your socialist mentality has everything backwards. It is NOT DC that grants us the tights to do things. We do not work for DC. The economy of this nation does NOT belong to DC for them to then dole at at their bidding. The wealth redistribution you preach is simply to give DC more power, more control, offering pittance to the needy in exchange for thier vote so DC can gobble up more power.

Those elitists in DC only know how to control. They are power hungry and will use any tactic, including tools like you three to spread their twisted message. Even Obama last night commented on more “cooperative3″ efforts between DC and Business, like bailouts, healthcare, energy industries they would love nothing more than to control them all. For with that they will have every american by the balls, and can twist them in whatever direction they want.

Is that REALLY what you want, or are you foolish enough to think that they won’t. Have you paid ANY attention tot he consistent power grabs and regulations and controls they have enacted these past few decades, or even the past century.

Yes, it is consolidated effort to achieve success, but we pay for it along the way by buying goods and services from others, and paying taxes that is the compensation for the efforts of DC and other local governments. To believe that DC has the right to take credit for my success is insulting. For if you believe that then you believe DC is our master, and whatever they allow us to keep we should be grateful.

Take your socialist, communist opinions and shove them.

Soundbit.What did you do go out and buy a shovel to be a grave digger.Even there someone helped you.Another man built a hardware store for you and had that shovel in his inventory.Japan Probably made the car for you to go and buy that shovel and you probably drove there on roads built by the taxpayers.Nobody does it alone.Sorry to burst your bubble and ego.

ts what I said whn everyone told me that Obama got Osama…..he didnt do that.
-CC.

What is your business soundbiteme. I would like to know. Is it in a building. Did you build that building yourself. Do you have employees. Do you use electricity or utilities or any supplies that you have to buy in your business. For that matter does your business have customers. Because if your business falls into any of these categories I am pretty sure you had at least some help in making your business successful.

It’s not likely that many businesses are completly financed,structured,legally established,staffed, oh wait a minute if it’s staffed then it wouldn’t be a one person operation. However KUDOS to you if you needed no ones help what so ever to set up, produce and build satisfied clientele.
If Obama was going to back peddle he should have made reference to employees who dedicate themselves and strive to grow business as well as enterprenuers.

You’re absolutely right RIcksmom, and that’s why the three stooges, (Alex, Robert and Doc) will never get it, until the big bloated gubmint implodes. At the rate they are printing fiat money, and cranking up the debt, that will be soon. Then only those with real work ethics and job skills will survive. The parasites will have to man up, and work. Or, they will have to turn to crime and steal from those who do work (kind of like the gubmint does now). It’s a good thing most of us who build our businesses also support the second amendment.

And that is why government law officials (an important part of this infrastructure) hunted, aprehended, and prosecuted Kaczynski, Madoff, and the like.

The point was not to attack individualism or promote collectivism. TML you listed several examples of an owner buying something rather then produce it themselves. They are getting help in doing that. For that matter when a business owner sells something to a customer they are getting help from the customer. No one is attacking individual initiative or work. That is still the center of success. The point is it is not the only part of success. You did build it. But you have to remember that you did not build it alone. That is not an attack against what you have done, its reality. There is nothing wrong with sharing success. It does not take away from what you individually have done.

Jeremy

You repeatedly claim its not an attack on individuality, or an attempt to promote collectivism, while citing the purpose of the speech was on a principle of ‘sharing success’. Although ‘attack’ may be too strong a word, I think your own defense helps emphasis my point.

It also seems strange to me that in order to say you didn’t build it alone, you first down play the business owner acting as a customer to producing suppliers, while simultaneously saying the customer helps the business owner (supplier).

I think its obvious to any right thinking person that the the success of a business contributes to the success of society as a society can contribute to the success of a business.

So, then, what was the speech about? Sharing success. With who? And in what way that it isn’t already being shared in that fundamental way?

As I said, it was about rationalizing increased taxes under a collectivist philosophy disrespectful of the individual business owner or entrepreneur’s hard work and dedication to achieve that success. So much so that his dubious remark (or “syntax”) was regretted.

Superb response, TML!!!

I can respect your view TML. This is what I offer. There is a big debate going on over issues such as taxes and government regulation. The republicans and in particular Mitt Romney appear to be pushing the idea that because a person has a successful business that person knows better then the government how a business should be run and therefore there is no need to have government regulation. What I believe Obama is saying is that while a person who is successful is certainly more experienced then a government regulatory that does not necessarily qualify them to make all the decisions regarding their business. They certainly have a right to make their own choices. But because their choices affect others and because they may not always be right there is a need for an outside entity to provide a balance of opinion and regulations. I guess what I am saying is Obama’s statement is not that society is more important or that the individual does not matter, What he is saying is the individual is not always right and helping the individual at the expense of society can be just as dangerous as helping society at the expense of the individual. Its a hard balance to maintain. At times perhaps the government does go too far in regulating. My problem with Romney is I feel he is going to far in not regulating. And when it comes done to it I believe Obama’s statement is not an attack on individuality. Its simply saying its not all about you. People do have a right to what they have earned and worked for. But we do all live in a society which we all benefit from. Its about finding a balance between regulation and individual decision. I believe if Obama has gone too far in one direction then Romney has gone just as far in the other. What I want is a balanced approach. Where regulations are individually looked at to see if they are needed. And where people do not treat government regulation as an evil thing. And I believe that the first step is toning down the rhetoric and sticking with the facts. And I believe the basic facts are Obama is not anti business and Romney is not anti government. The two just lean in their own respective directions. But their differences are not fundamental. They are not polar opposites of each other and both their platforms have some good ideas. Bottom line is I believe both sides want an accountable government that is effective, efficient and ethical. The only trick now is how to get that.