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Is Mitt Fit?

August 27, 2012 by  

Is Mitt Fit?
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The big bash called the Republican National Convention is set to kick off. If all goes as the party elites have planned, Mitt Romney will be nominated and acclaimed tomorrow (the roll call had been moved up to today “because of concerns about supporters of libertarian Texas Rep. Ron Paul” but Hurricane Isaac interfered) as the country’s salvation from four years of the illegal Obamination that currently despoils the people’s house.

Romney hardly qualifies as a savior — unless what you want to save is big government, ever-growing debt and perpetual war. Beyond the facts that Romney is a natural-born citizen (and there is no proof that the current occupant of the White House is) and there are slight differences in their statist, big government policies, there is little else to differentiate between Romney and the undocumented White House usurper.

To wit: Both believe the government should bail out failing industries; both believe in corporate and agricultural welfare; both support off-shoring American jobs; both support unlimited money printing; both support the notion that government can imprison people without charges or trial; both support government assassinations of Americans; both support weapons bans; both support socialized medicine; both support abortion; both believe in man-caused global warming and support cap-and-trade legislation; both have stated their undying support of Israel; both have advocated pre-emptive war on Syria and Iran and growing the American empire. As President Barack Obama has continued George W. Bush’s nation-destroying-then-rebuilding policies and Romney has employed as advisers much of Bush’s foreign policy team, expect four more years (at least) of war tacked onto the more than 20 we’ve endured in the Mideast.

But the Republican faithful have turned a blind eye to these facts and accepted the party elite’s chosen candidate as well as the elite’s false narrative. The rank and file have also dismissed the ill treatment of the only true conservative in the race, Ron Paul, as well as the ill treatment of his delegates and supporters. But do the rank and file really know who Romney is? And better yet, are they willing to hear the truth and reject Romney while there is still time to replace him with a real conservative who can defeat Obama and change the direction of the country?

In 1984, when Bain Capital was just getting off the ground and struggling to find investors, Romney approached old-money families, including the Rothschilds, for investment in the new venture. Those old-money families turned him down. So Romney went searching for other sources of funding.

In doing so, he began doing business with some nefarious characters, according to the Los Angeles Times. One of them was Sir Jack Lyons, who made a $2.5 million investment through a Panama shell company. Lyons was later convicted of fraud, fined heavily (though spared prison because of ill health) and stripped of his knighthood.

Another British investor of Bain Capital was the publishing baron Robert Maxwell. After Maxwell’s drowning death in 1991, investigators learned Maxwell had stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from his company’s pension funds.

Romney’s Bain partner Harry Strachan suggested other sources of funding with Central American ties. The LA Times quotes a Boston Globe article from 1994 that describes Romney and Bill Bain as being “terrified of bringing in Central Americans” because of “drug money.” But Strachan reassured them so that they approached some of El Salvador’s wealthiest people.

El Salvador was in the midst of a civil war and many of the country’s rich were looking to get their money out of the country. Two of the investors were Francisco R.R. de Sola and his cousin Herbert Arturo de Sola, whose brother Orlando de Sola was suspected by the U.S. State Department and CIA of backing right-wing El Salvadoran death squads, according to now-declassified documents.

Another Bain investor was Jack Hanley, formerly the head of the agricultural terrorist company Monsanto. Hanley invested $1 million. “It seemed like a hell of a smart thing for to do to ride their coattails,” Hanley told the LA Times. “I got rich.”

Romney is a classic crony capitalist, i.e., a fascist, and his ties to Paul Ryan go far beyond tapping him as his Vice Presidential selection. Last week, The Telegraph reported that Romney may have violated ethics laws while Governor of Massachusetts by profiting from a marketing company that was contracted by the State after receiving $5 million from Bain Capital.

Paul Ryan’s brother Tobin was senior manager at Bain from 1995-1998. He left to become vice president of Imagitas, a company co-founded by Bain consultant Tom Beecher. In June 2000, the company got a $5 million investment from Bain. It expanded and began to win contracts with several State governments, including Wisconsin — where Republican and Ryan ally Scott McCallum was Governor — and Massachusetts (a contract that began in 2002, shortly before Romney’s election as Governor and shortly after Tobin Ryan says he left Imagitas).

That work with Massachusetts continued for several years, yet Romney never disclosed the potential conflict of interest. According to The Telegraph, Romney’s 2002 financial disclosure forms state he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital Investors VI and Bain Capital, Inc. But the forms do not detail individual companies like Imagitus, in which Bain Capital was invested.

In 2005, while Romney was still Governor, Imagitus was sold for $230 million.

Victor Fleischer, a law professor at the University of Colorado specializing in private equity, told The Telegraph  it was “possible but unlikely” that Romney could have completely prevented himself from benefiting from Imagitas.

Over the years, Imagitas gave the Republican Governor’s Association, which Romney chaired, a total of $64,825. Former Imagitus board member Glenn Youngkin, a senior executive with The Carlyle Group — an organization with several directors and staffers who are members of the Council on Foreign Relations — has donated $50,000 to the Romney Victory Fund. He has donated more than $16,000 to Ryan’s campaigns since 1999.

Romney’s Abortion Problem

Romney has flopped like a fish on the subject of abortion, changing his stance depending upon which political office he’s seeking. He insists he’s pro-life now, but he refused last year to sign a pro-life pledge for the Susan B. Anthony List, a pro-life women’s organization. He has since created his own pledge that removed language from the Susan B. Anthony List pledge he didn’t like, and has received the organization’s endorsement.

But in 1999, Bain Capital invested $75 million in Stericycle, a medical-waste disposal firm that disposed of aborted fetuses collected from family-planning clinics. Bain and Romney claim Romney left the firm to run the 2002 Winter Olympics before the Stericycle deal was made. But documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission tell a different story.

Romney is listed as an active participant. According to Mother Jones:

Romney “may be deemed to share voting and dispositive power with respect to” 2,116,588 shares of common stock in Stericycle “in his capacity as sole shareholder” of the Bain entities that invested in the company. That was about 11 percent of the outstanding shares of common stock. (The whole $75 million investment won Bain, Romney, and their partners 22.64 percent of the firm’s stock—the largest bloc among the firm’s owners.) The original copy of the filing was signed by Romney.

Another SEC document filed November 30, 1999, by Stericycle also names Romney as an individual who holds “voting and dispositive power” with respect to the stock owned by Bain. If Romney had fully retired from the private equity firm he founded, why would he be the only Bain executive named as the person in control of this large amount of Stericycle stock?

The Allen Stanford Connection

Romney has also been tied to convicted Ponzi schemer Allen Stanford, recently sentenced to 110 years in prison in a $7 billion fraud case.

According to The New York Times, about a month after Romney’s 2008 President bid ended, Romney’s son Tagg and top campaign fundraiser Spencer Zwick decided to form a private equity fund and they had a rolodex of deep-pocketed campaign funders to pitch their ideas to. What they didn’t have was private equity experience, so they tapped into the Charlotte office of Stanford Financial Group (SFG) — which had been closed by Federal regulators for selling sham certificates of deposit — and used $10 million in seed money from the Romney family to invest in one part of SFG’s business called Solamere Capital.

The Times reports that Solamere executives claim the group had only been with SFG a short time and knew nothing of the fraud, even though they earned commissions and bonuses from the sale of fraudulent CDs. But the court-appointed receiver for SFG has filed a Federal lawsuit that claims the former SFG employees ignored warning signs of the fraud. He is seeking to recover money from them.

Despite Tagg Romney’s claims to the contrary, an investigation into at least three principals of Solamere who came from SFG is ongoing.

Foreign Funds And More Shady Characters

And then there’s Romney’s foreign fundraising problem. In late July, Romney went to Israel where he held several fundraisers — without collecting paperwork from the donors and most without the presence of journalists — and promised in speeches to back an Israeli strike on Iran.

In January, the Supreme Court issued an order that upheld prohibitions against foreigners making contributions to influence American elections. It stated, “Foreign nationals, other than lawful permanent residents, are completely banned from donating to candidates or parties, or making independent expenditures in federal, state or local elections.”

Veterans Today writes Romney was “personally campaigning outside the US, soliciting foreign citizens, and humiliating himself and his country with his ignorance and flagrant attempts to trade illegal cash for promises of illegal war. One could hardly break more laws if one wanted.”

The Washington Post said the fundraiser — which included Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson — involved about 40 donors who were U.S. citizens, many of whom flew in to attend the event. But there was no filming or photographs allowed and no IDs were checked.

VT also reports that Romney and Adelson met with a group of large donors from the Russian Jewish community who flew in from Moscow.

Adelson is currently being investigated by Federal and Nevada investigators for possible violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act over an investment in Macau.

In addition to his Israel trip, Romney has also held several campaign fundraisers in England.

It seems that Republicans are now faced with three choices. First, they can shove their heads into the sand at the Tampa, Fla., beaches and pretend that all is well with their candidate, telling themselves all the while they are voting for the “lesser of two evils.”

Or they can look into this and other evidence and determine that Romney’s not the answer for the Nation’s problems and demand a new candidate be selected at the convention: preferably Ron Paul. For this route, time is short; and it’s been made shorter by even more last-minute dirty tricks by the Republican elites.

Or, as I suspect will happen, they can ignore it all and instead unleash a stream of ad hominems and fallacies, shooting the messenger by imputing all manner of nefarious pro-Obama motives to Personal Liberty Digest™ and me while they la-de-da themselves all the way to either a November defeat or, if Romney wins, a Nixonian fall later on.

Cue the slur machine. Three, two, one…

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://loboviejo.wordpress.com loboviejo

    What I see about Romney is that he may wake up the massive left anti-war machine that has been silent out of deference to the “chosen one.” Perhaps the horror of a presidential kill list will settle in on the population. Mitt, if elected, will be a one term president. We need to keep up the cause.

    • Deborah

      Yes loboviejo, let’s elect Romney to give our nation back to an American leader who loves God and country. Then we can work on pushing for the changes we desire within the republican party. If you believe Romney will be a one term president and you want to vote for Ron Paul, so be it. Until then, our first priority is to get rid of Obama. If Obama is re-elected, we will have gone over the edge to the point of no return. Then you will never get Ron Paul elected. It will spiral into socialism and then communism.

      Please go see the movie, 2016:Obama’s America.

  • Howard McTaggart

    Although Romney might not be the savior us needs he may at least be ble to redirest the countries economy in the right direction

    • deerinwater

      Yea! Mitt is noted for that! He will redirect it straight into his and his buddies pocket and send you the bill for the restructuring . LOL!

      • Deborah

        You mean like Obama redirects all our money into his energy corporations that go belly up? Or how about stealing from Medicare to pay for Obamacare? Or worse yet, taxing the hell out of us so he can pay off the mighty unions he is in bed with. In fact, your Obama is no better than the very same things you have accused the republicans of. I’ll settle for the republican’s corruption over Obama’s corruption any day. Why don’t you just move to Europe?

  • Ann

    Oh, and Bob, it’s looks like you’ve already cued the SLUR machine. It’s your column.

    • DaveH

      Can you cite some specifics, Ann, and refute them?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Nah, Dave! Just another ad hominem attack just as Bob predicted in his final paragraph!

        “Or, as I suspect will happen, they can ignore it all and instead unleash a stream of ad hominems and fallacies, shooting the messenger by imputing all manner of nefarious pro-Obama motives to Personal Liberty Digest™ and me while they la-de-da themselves all the way to either a November defeat or, if Romney wins, a Nixonian fall later on.
        Cue the slur machine. Three, two, one…”

  • dan luster

    Back in 2009 I saw a bumper stickers with the following: ” One nation under Obama” and “In Obama we trust.” The people we elect are not our redeemers, they are flawed. Last year was the time to vet Mitt Romney, not now. The author wants Romney replaced at the GOP convention because he is no different from Obama. Really! Conservatives need to become active. No more ” Well I voted, I did my part.” If Romney is elected hold his feet to the fire. Don’t let the lefty media savage him. We now have a good idea what Obama meant by ” fundamental transformation of America” – coercive collectivism, no matter the cost. If Obama is re-elected that’s exactly what we’ll get, and good and hard.

    • Robert Smith

      “Don’t let the lefty media savage him.”

      Although there are some “liberals” in the Media (Rachel Meadow is a good example) the “media” is big business. They bow to regulations, financing, and all the rest of the stuff that the money can impose upon them. There ain’t no such thing as “liberal” media.

      Rob

  • American 1st

    And BTW, we cannot TAX our way to prosperity, which seems to be the Democrat’s national anthem.

    • Robert Smith

      But it sure would be right to get those on top to pay their fair share.

      Let’s go back to the same rates Ronald Regan had in place.

      Rob

      • http://norman@cates-family.com Norman F.

        Obama will not do that!

      • Retired Army Officer

        No…..Obama won’t do that because the Republicans in Congress won’t let him.

        Or have you forgotten about their ‘Pledge to Grover’?

        That supercedes ANY & ALL responsibility they have to conducting the People’s business.

      • DaveH

        Their “fair” share would be the same amount that you and I pay, Robert.
        But in fact they pay well more than their “fair” share:
        http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

        Get your hands out of other peoples’ pockets, Robert.

      • SamFox

        Robert Smith–wanna see who pays the most taxes? Hint: It ain’t you. Unless you are in the high six figure class.

        http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

        http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/incometaxandtheirs/a/whopaysmost.htm

        Beware the class warfare gimmick. It’s a classic socialist/communist propaganda tool that they play when they are working to take over a nation by tricking ‘lower’ classes into supporting their take over & rail on the rich. That’s the ‘rich’ who create most of the jobs….

        Now you know why the push is on to expand the food stamp & other welfare programs.
        All that is part of this agenda:

        http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/theclowardpivenstrategypoe.html

        SamFox

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      American 1st, it would SEEM to be the anthem of BOTH parties! Did you ever stop and think about how many times they tax EVERY dollar that we earn or receive? Following is a list that may or may not be all inclusive. (I admit I didn’t research to confirm.)

      Accounts Receivable Tax
      Building Permit Tax
      CDL license Tax
      Cigarette Tax
      Corporate Income Tax
      Dog License Tax
      Excise Taxes
      Federal Income Tax
      Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
      Fishing License Tax
      Food License Tax
      Fuel Permit Tax
      Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
      Gross Receipts Tax
      Hunting License Tax
      Inheritance Tax
      Inventory Tax
      IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
      Liquor Tax
      Luxury Taxes
      Marriage License Tax
      Medicare Tax
      Personal Property Tax
      Property Tax
      Real Estate Tax
      Service Charge Tax
      Social Security Tax
      Road Usage Tax
      Recreational Vehicle Tax
      Sales Tax
      School Tax
      State Income Tax
      State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
      Telephone Federal Excise Tax
      Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
      Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
      Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
      Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
      Telephone   State and Local Tax
      Telephone Usage Charge Tax
      Utility Taxes
      Vehicle License Registration Tax
      Vehicle Sales Tax
      Watercraft Registration Tax
      Well Permit Tax
      Workers Compensation Tax

      BOTH parties are robbing us blind!!!

      • http://none,(earthlinkserver) jim saulino

        As long as it goes for security and defense, they can tax us all they want; just as long as the big guys don’t have to spring for any of it. We have a mere 800+ military installations around the world NOT counting Afghanistan and Iraq. We can be third world as long as the biggies have us BS’d into thinking “we” rule the world.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Jim says:
        As long as it goes for security and defense, they can tax us all they want

        Sorry jim, but it doesn’t! It goes to OFFENSE. And it goes right into THEIR pockets and the pockets of their cronies who provide that military equipment for that OFFENSE! It also goes to provide all of the departments like “homeland security” which was designed to protect THEM from US! It also goes to build bunkers and underground cities that THEY can go to, to protect themselves when everything goes to pieces! And to the FEMA camps they built for US! It goes to the protected jobs of government employees and the lavish lifestyles of government officials! It goes to payoffs for union support and corporate support! It goes to $400 hammers and $700 toilet seats! The ONLY security and defense that gets bought with YOUR money, is THEIRS!!! The rest of us are on our own!!!

  • Ann

    It’s scary to see what lengths some folks will to when they don’t get their guy on the ticket. I didn’t like McCain in 08 but I voted for him. As bad as he might have been he’d have been George Washington compared to who we have now. Romney gets my vote and you Ron Paul supporters need to wake up. The earlier poster who asked how you’d like a Justice Eric Holder hit the nail on the head. Go see the movie 2016 and then we’ll talk. Romney/Ryan. Oh and stop with the innuendo and slurs. Romney is an honorable man with enough money to go buy his own island and lets the rest of us drown here. He’s running to set things right and I believe he will. I too, want off this email list.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So you are making an emotional outburst instead of seeing that the author is right, that Romney will not be the one saving America. O already has shifted the direction of the country and all Romney can do is over correct but cannot bring it back to the “good old days where everybody “loved” each other and all made money hand over fist”, and government did only the job it was given by the Constitution.
      If you knew your history you will find that the people become what their leaders are and what the country becomes because of those leaders.

      • http://norman@cates-family.com Norman F.

        If we can knock President Obama out in four years, we can knock President Romney out in four years. But I will bet the outhouse that we will be better off after four years of Romney than we will after four more years of Obama!

        I am bumfuzzled over the determination of so many writers to this site to prefer four more years of Muslim rule to four years of rule by a man who has more to lose than we do.

    • DaveH

      Ann says — “Romney gets my vote and you Ron Paul supporters need to wake up”.
      Wake up to what, Ann — Voting for UnPrincipled politicians thinking that somehow they will become Principled?
      It is you and people like you, Ann, who think, in their comatose stupors, that going East will somehow get them to a Northern destination.

  • terry

    At the end of Sept or beginning of Oct the debt ceiling will need to be raised. It won’t happen. The government will not send out any payments –SS checks, other retirement checks, military checks and ect. The constitution will be suspended, marshall law will be instituted and no election will happen. The system is broken and cannot be fixed so get prepared.

    • Chester

      The TEA PARTY at work, again.

    • Retired Army Officer

      I’m sure Terry, you’ll be rushing out to the store to sytock up on TEA……

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      A LOT of economists are in agreement with you! A few are looking toward April. I’m sure hoping that THEY are right! I’d like a few extra months!

  • American 1st

    Sorry, but I’m voting for Mitt. My business cannot stand another 4 years of Obama’s economic hell. Reminds me of Jimmy Carter’s failed administration. Democrats do not understand small business/economics/the economy. While Romney is no President Reagan I feel that he does have a grasp for business & the economy, while the current community organizer in charge has zero. Under Obama I see no hope, no change. I see America heading like a locomotive out of control toward an economic abyss.

    Romney 2012

    • eddie47d

      If you loved the Bush Wars and even Obama’s Wars then you will love Mitt even more. His plans for further adventurism is drawn up and being put into play as we chat.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Wow, eddie47d, does that mean, when it comes to wars, you think BOTH parties are the SAME?!?

      • eddie47d

        The only difference is who can out lie the other .

      • deerinwater

        Hmm? W ‘s administration started them while “O’s” administration attempts to close them out as the Arab’s world wants to start more to keep the cards, letters and money flowing in.

        Not to mention, that under the cloud of social unrest Arabs enjoys sanctuary and lax immigration policies of benevolent foreign nations that needs more religious strife, cab drivers and store clerks.

        I want to liberated too! Send me your money! or I will be naughty and you won’t like it if you don’t! You will know that it is you that is responsible for my misbehavior that could have been avoided.

        Send you money and donations to; Box 444, Gun Barrel , Texas 76444

        Directed to; Mr. Nasty Abotanything

      • SamFox

        eddie47d, from this comment, “If you loved the Bush Wars…”. I think you are right.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-5bbH1x2fE

        Nancy in Neb., Yes both parties are now pretty much the same as far as the ‘leadership’ goes. Not necessarily the individual voter in the ‘party’, but those who run things.

        Though we got big spending, war starting Bush out, what did we get as a replacement? Another ‘incarnation’ of GWB, in 0. 0 is continuing the Bush policies & has increased deficit spending & borrowing to cover the shortfall of cash on hand. 0, like GW, is spending beyond the means of the $ govt has.

        Have you yet to notice that nothing has changed much for the better for We The People in decades no matter which BGP wing is in the WH &/or Congress? The illegal growth of our fed govt remains unchecked & has gotten worse with the extension of the ‘Patriot’ Act & the NDAA bill that contained the indefinite detention rider that a D & John Manchurian McCain slid in the bill. Big spending is worse. Regulation of business is increasing thanks to the EPA. You excited about drones being used to spy on US citizens IN COUNTRY?

        Those of us not excited about Mitt have good reason to be concerned. He is just another version of GWB & 0bama. Is 0 really ending the war in Afghanistan?

        http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/03/why-obama-is-not-ending-the-war-in-afghanistan/

        How about Iraq?

        http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/08/12/obama-s-non-plan-for-ending-the-war-in-iraq/

        We The People must begin to see the deception that there are 2 ‘parties’. There is only one major ‘party, again, the Big Government Party, that has 2 wings/parts, the R wing & the D wing. The collapse the system agenda out lined in the Cloward & Pivon book that tells how do that is being carried out no matter which branch of the BGP is in power.

        Another primer for taking down the US is Rules For Radicals. See who the book is dedicated to. That dedication should be HUGE wake up call. Also look up, copy & paste the phrase–

        Proud To Stand At The Right Hand of satan for a One World Government

        Time to wake up, smell the coffee & get real.

        Thanks.

        SamFox

      • http://none Jim Saulino

        Finally, a writer who makes sense.
        A writer named Jim boo-hooed when I wrote earlier that ALL US Presidents since FDR and through Obama would be hanged if the Neuremburg war crimes criteria were applied ton them.
        I first read that statement by Noam Chomsky. I was incredulous myself but took the time and energy to find out for myself over many months of research that indeed Chomsky was and is accurate. As was Gore Vidal on that same score.
        I read of USAF pilots during poppy Bush’s Iraq adventure refer to gunning down fleeing civilians as a “turkey shoot.”
        Pick any president, Jimmy Carter, Renaldo Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt (killed over 200000 Phillipinos to establish a coaling base in the Phillippines for the US Navy), Kennedy, Nixon, Johnson –Vietnam, My Lai, Truman, the only human being Ever to unleash tow nuclear bombs on already defeated Japan to intimidate the decimated Russians.

        I’m not even warmed up. Picking POTUS war crimes is a turkey shoot for anybody who takes a little time to remove their star spangled blindfold to see your trillions of tax dollars at work.

        I have noticed that many righties simply ignore or ridicule writers on those topics on which they find inconvenient to discuss. This is routinely done on talk radio with screeners, liberal websites like Huffpost who like to keep everything mainstream, and on this site as well.

        I do commend this site for its tolerance by at least publishing what others have to say. But alas, most readers of this post will simply ignore the inconvenient accuracies I and others have posted.

        SamFox accurately cites a dire need for an alternative to our current electoral politics. The Republican Convention is pure farce, as the upcomong Democrat convention is sure to be.
        Get out your Xanax or Ativan, or favorite booze and sit back–enjoy the parody.

    • nc

      American , what did the Republicans know about small business/economics when they controlled the White House and Congress for 6 years and could have made the changes that were necessary to avoid the 07 collapse?? Their promises in 2000 did not promise a collapse!! They promised a GREAT IMPROVEMENT over the CLinton economy with their tax cuts fiscal policy! HOW DID THAT TURN OUT?

      The years of 2001-2008 ACTUALLY happened! They started with a set of figures and ended with a set of weaker figures! Why can’t you Republicans come to grips with that reality and judge Obama’s record in dealing with that reality with NO help from the party that caused it?? DENIAL IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!

      • Steve

        NC,
        GHW Bush lost an election because he said “read my lips, no new taxes” then he proceeded to pass one. BO said many times no taxes on anyone under 250 k per year. Then he proceeded to pass the largest tax increase on everyone in the country. That is known as “Obama care” and the Supreme Court just ruled it is indeed a TAX! Of course it won’t happen till 2013 so you can’t feel it now, but wait why are there so many vacant buildings in the country? Are we going to fill those all up with government employees? but be assured it is coming and it will affect you and everyone else no matter what income level you are on in a very negative way! That is not to mention the inflation that is on the horizon due to the money floating he has done. So for you democrats out there tell me. Do you really believe BO told you the truth? DO you really want to stand on his record for 4 more years of this crap? For my money you are going to need someone who knows how to get it done when the crap this guy has put in place hits the fan, and BO has no clue how to do that, everything he put in place is contrary to our way of life and I am not a big buck republican, I just love the freedom we have in this country. In that regard Romney is hands down the better business choice. Even over Ron Paul in terms of actually getting things done. Don’t get me wrong here I do like the rhetoric from Ron Paul’s camp. I just have a hard time thinking he could actually do the job if elected.

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone: Here Obama will be re-elected because his competition is extremely AWFUL!! Look the best thing for the Repubs. is to hope Hurricane Isaac cancels the convention . If not, this convention is going to worse along with more hilarious than a SNL or Def Comedy Jam skit. As a matter of fact, Ron Paul isn’t going to “fully” endorse Mitt the “Twit”. This should tell us all something. Thanks!!
    P.S. Mr. Horton, give it a rest please!!

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Tony,”

      SIR, I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU! I THOUGHT YOU WERE SWEPT AWAY! GOOD TO TALK TO YOU, SIR. YOU KNOW I AM HERE TO BE A “THORN IN YOUR SIDE!”

      • Gea

        The meteorologists goofed by naming this hurricen Isaac. It should have been named Ishamael and the next one for the DNC should have been named Isaac, to preserve sumbolism of Obama and Romeny.

        It is teachings of Isaac vs, teachings of Ishmael, whom Mohamed named as the one whon Abraham was commanded to sacrifize, rather then Isaac who was a legitimate son of Sarah and not the doncubine Hagar ;-) !

        Republican are going to win in a landslide and BO and his Muslim Brotherhood and Democratic Party will be taken down as un-American which they had become by giving support to this very skillful in PR Marxist Muslim ;-) ! I voted for BO in 2008, but NEVER AGAIN since I want to prevent events in Middle East to destroy the “chosedn people’ ;-) ! Political correctness that had been preventing truth about Muslim world to come out, will go down the drain too, and intelligent people who are still living on the White Guilt will come to their senses and tell the truth and not fictions about BO ;-) !

      • http://liberty Tony

        Hey Mr. Horton and Gea:
        Check this out-http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/the-one-termer_n_1819608.html. Later on !!

      • http://liberty Tony

        Sorry a correction in the link. The correct one-http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/the-one-termer_n_1819608.html. Good bye for now.

      • DaveH

        Gea says — “Republican are going to win in a landslide”.
        What will they win? More War is Peace? More Crony Capitalism? Less Freedom? Continued downward spiral of their economy?
        If you call that winning, I’d hate to see your idea of losing, Gea.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Everyone: Check this out. httpa;//news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-don’t- fully-endorse-him-132604061.html. Farewell!!

      • http://liberty Tony
      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Tony,” SIR, I WENT TO YOUR WEBLINK. IT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

    • http://liberty Tony

      To Gea:
      Well, that’s the samething the RNC said in 2008 and looked what happen. Look for the samething again this year. Sorry, but face the facts!!

      • Deborah

        Tony – First of all, learn to spell and use proper grammar. Secondly, anyone who promotes a left-wing nut job like Ariana Huffington and her website has no credibility.
        Go away.

  • Cheryl

    I would vote for Mickey Mouse over Obama! Ron Paul is not the nominee so get over it people! Romney will stop the fast track to socialism, Marxism! We the people must hold his feet to the fire! We must elect more conservatives in the house and senate and change the republican party from within! It won’t happen overnight people! Romney must win!

    • Robert Smith

      “We must elect more conservatives in the house and senate and change the republican party from within! ”

      ROFL… That didn’t work so well for those “conservative” republicans in Dover, PA.

      Check out: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/intelligent-design-trial.html

      Extremism doesn’t work in any direction. BTW, the judge in the case was a Bush appointee.

      Rob

      • Thor

        And where is your justification for the remark, Robert Smith? As far as the political power base in the country, there has not been but one example of extremism in the last 130 years. As I have pointed out to you before, all you need do is examine the Congressional record, see who has been in charge of both houses of Congress for over 90% of the time in the last century and a half. Republicans have been pandering to the progressive left for so long they have become a proxy for anti-conservative, progressive values.

        Now, go whisk the dust off an old dictionary from the McCarthy era and find the word that matches this definition: “…one political party, with a socialist economic system and governmental control of all resources and production….”

        When you see what this nation has become, it kinda makes you wonder if ole Joe actually died of liver failure.

        With numbers like these–Obama 46%, Romney 45%, Paul 6% and 3% undecided–one has to wonder what the alternative is to ‘voting for the lesser of two evils.’

        DaveH, if you can come up with ‘specifics’ on this, you’ve got my vote…eh, no links please. Just you.

      • DaveH

        No links? So you’d prefer me to bloviate without any backup references like the rest of you do?
        Dream on, Thor.
        Otherwise, I have no idea what you’re asking me.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Cheryl, did someone tell you that you HAVE to vote for THEIR nominee?!? THIS IS AMERICA!!! You can vote for WHOEVER YOU WANT!!!

  • Brian

    I do not want a conservative nor do I want a liberal, I want common sense, I want some who has run something and not into the ground. I want someone who is buiness friendly, someone who will go after our oil, gas, coal and either roll back regulations or at least ease them. I want someone who will let business lead and grow this country. I want someone who will stand up to the UN. Obama ain’t gonna do it, no democrat is gonna do it. The UN has it’s place but it sure isn’t their place to lead the US.

    • diamond1957

      Brian, I agree, but special interests, and their money rule, its their job security. Gone are the true patriots who put country before all else, their all team players now.

  • Charlie Tall

    Nice timing, Bob Livingston.

    What exactly did you expect to accomplish with this article?

    There is no serious libertarian candidate, and won’t be for another four years, if ever.

    At the very best, the Libertarian Party can be characterized as a “minor” political party wielding somewhat less than minor influence.

    So what did you think you could accomplish by attacking the only viable alternative to the malignant, anti-American, racist socialist in the White House? By doing their work for the vicious Democratic attack dogs?

    You know what? This smells a whole lot like sour grapes.

    • Ann

      Well said.

      • Patrick

        Absolutely. It’s ridiculous. Who needs the democrats when you have viscous attack dogs like these Paul supporters?

        Seriously, time to remove myself from this email list.

      • eddie47d

        Charlie Tall and Ann are probably those who refused to take a closer look at G Bush and now are just as clueless on Mitt Romney. So there are also Republicans who like to dance in the dark.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So simply goodbye to you, Patrick and Ann. You will not be punishing Bob by leaving as peavish children do because you didn’t like what was said.

      • Chester

        Ann, and Patrick, WHY give up one of the few means of learning what the opposition is looking at and talking about? I for sure don’t agree with much of what is put forward in the main articles in here, but that is no excuse for me to remove myself form this mailing list. For one thing, it is too much fun to come on here and stomp toes, then step back and see who screams the loudest about what. For another, and more serious reason, once in a while I actually learn something new. It may not be something I really wanted to know, but knowledge IS knowledge, and THAT is something that can NOT be taken from me.

    • Robert Smith

      “This smells a whole lot like sour grapes.”

      Mitler ain’t the best candidate, it gets pointed out, and wow! “Sour grapes?” Why do you have so much difficulty acdepting truth?

      Mitler has been questionable on so many levels…

      Nice to see some of it out in the open.

      Rob

      • momo

        Robert Smith says: Mitler has been questionable on so many levels…

        And Obama hasn’t?

    • nc

      Charlie Tall, obviously you don’t watch TV. In my area, the Republicans have a breed of vicious attack dogs second to none when it comes to political ads. Half truths and outright lies are the highlights of most of their ads! But what can they do? Their attempts with their last two President to make America stronger have been dismal failures!! So they can’t run on their record of weak economies, unpopular wars and failure to timely respond to domestic calamities and that leaves them with no choice but to attack, attack attack! Independent voters not in denial of the real bush figures know that. They did in 08!

      NO PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY TOOK OFFICE IN A DEEPER HOLE THAN OBAMA! Even FDR didn’t have to face two unpopular wars going nowhere in addition to the HOOVER (R) DEPRESSION!

      Don’t forget that the man you call Anti-American presided over the killing of our worst enemy, the end of 500,000 per month job losses, and a record jump in the stock market!
      THOSE are just part of the reason s that WALL STREET LOVES THE DEMOCRATS!

      • Craig

        NC. You’re right. He only presided over the capture of Bin Laden and had absolutely nothing to do with the search to find him. The fact is we knew for quite some time where Bin Laden was hiding. This was information that was pieced together thanks to the intelligence gathering started during the Bush Administration. Obama played no active role in this. Oh, he did give his approval. Thank you, Mr. Obama.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Charlie Tall,

      You write: “What exactly did you expect to accomplish with this article?” If you read the column you would see that I addressed this.

      You write: “There is no serious libertarian candidate, and won’t be for another four years, if ever. At the very best, the Libertarian Party can be characterized as a “minor” political party wielding somewhat less than minor influence.” True. That’s why I’ve been advocating for Republican Ron Paul.

      You write: “So what did you think you could accomplish by attacking the only viable alternative to the malignant, anti-American, racist socialist in the White House?” Again, read the column.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Deerinwater

        Vote your convictions and write in Ron Paul, for if you don’t, it will never be clear what your convictions are and you will be sending a false message to leadership as you make claims that leadership is not listening to you.

        And thank you Mr. Livingston for filling in so many of the finer details of Romney & Ryan activities behind the scenes.

      • Gea

        Ron Paul is totally ignorant of the causes of 9/11 that has nothing to do with Americans having bases around the world, but it is intrinsic to Islamist desire for jihad, as commended in the Koran. Ron Paul should read a book by Matthias Kunzel, a German sociologist ,Jihad and Jew-Hatred: Islamism, Nazism and the Roots of 9/11 …
        (www.telospress.com). 9/11 has NOTHING to do what America did or did not do, or what Israel did or did not do, but EVERYTHING to do with a supremacist ideology of Islam, which is similar to supremacist Nazi ideology, with its delusional Jew hatred.

        Therefore, having a US President who is extolling this ideology, while dissing Bible, and giving money and support to Muslim Brotherhood is totally un-American. Barak Hussein Obama will lose in a land-slide election, and will take Democratic party down with him, because they had allowed him to cavort with Islamists and even stage an Islamist extravagance at the DNC. Americans do not want terrorists and burkhas in the White house!

      • SamFox

        gea, not Bob.

        You need to do better research. You either one of Spooky Dude’s Homer Simpsons or very uninformed.

        Blowback & 9-11

        Did blowback cause 9-11
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqGBBFiowE

        NY Times:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/opinion/02iht-edgreenway02.html

        9-11, war & why Ron Paul’s foreign policy is right.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSt4L43RbeA

        Also look up Combat Veterans For Ron Paul. They have a lot to say.

        And, see who most of the troops support & want as their Commander In Chief.

        You like Ron Paul except on foreign policy.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQs5hoHW_Qc

        For dessert,
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVaHFgjXjsA&feature=related

        Thanks.

        SamFox

      • Gea

        In his speech last week, Ron Paul stated that Osama bin Ladin would not orchestrated murder of 9/11 if US had foreign policy of total isolationism, thus agreeing with terrorists that they were justified in attacking US.

        As Mathias Kuntzle explained in his book Nazism, Jew hatred and the roots of 9/11, this terrorist act that murdered 3000 innocent people was caused not by what American or Israel do or don;t do, but by the supremacist ideology of hate of Islam and its Jihad agsint WEstern civlizationa which they do not want to recdognize while envying it. ISlam is the ROOT cause of the current days terrorism and MUST reform rather then being whitlewashed by an US president as Barak hussein OBama does, or blaming America as Ron Paul does.

        Romney will win in a landslide. Ron Paul can return to his medical practice.

      • SamFox

        Gea–You need to show us proof that Ron Paul said we should have had total isolationism. Ron has never said that because he does NOT believe in it. Isolation of the USA is stupid policy & Ron knows that.

        Since you obviously ignored my citations, I would surmise because you cannot refute them, there is no use replying to you any longer. I am not interested in trying to converse with the obtuse.

        If you care to reply go ahead. But if you cannot refute what is presented in the links I left, I will ignore you. You are a waste of time. Because…

        You lied about Ron & ‘total isolation’. That term/concept is a disingenuous propaganda phrase that originated in fringe stream media. You can provide NO PROOF that Ron has EVER called for isolationism. Saying he has is another lie based on twisting Dr. Paul’s words. I note that NO ONE who rags on Ron EVER puts up what DR. PAUL HIMSELF says about FP. They just use deceptive media twisted talking head ‘analysis’ of Ron’s words, but NEVER his own words.

        You ARE a Spooky Dude Homer Simpson shill. First you deceitfully fabricated Ron’s foreign policy by saying he was for ‘total isolation’, a very weak lie. Then you attempted another piece of propaganda by saying “In his speech last week, Ron Paul stated that Osama bin Ladin would not orchestrated murder of 9/11 if US had foreign policy of total isolationism, >thus agreeing with terrorists that they were justified in attacking US.”<

        Again, no proof, just deceptive supposition. Ron Paul has never said 9-11 was justified. You are a liar & propagandist deceiver. AND Ron has never said interventionism was the ONLY cause. He did say it was a large part of why we had 9-11. It's in the links you ignore…

        SamFox

      • MikeR

        SamFox: Why are you guys still talking about Ron Paul? He is no longer a viable candidate for ANYTHING. You only have two real choices for President. One of them is a marxist, and the other one is a capitalist. Any discussion on the subject beyond that is just a big steaming pile of bravo sierra.

      • SamFox

        MikeR, just as I thought, You make a mis-statement, don’t back it up & when called on it you dodge the issue.

        The issue topic was not who’s in or out, it was you said Ron Paul said we should have total isolation. Which is not true.

        Either you should prove your slander or apologize. Thanks.

        You are right about the candidates. One is a Marxist whatever & who knows what the other one is? I don’t. You don’t either.

        Romney exposed
        http://tinyurl.com/86meydk

        Fake Conservative Mitt:
        http://www.newswithviews.com/Nelson/kelleigh123.htm

        Snakes On A Campaign, M Romney, by Southern Avenger
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3etUOq7hVE\

        Romney & 0bama the same.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWDJEc92d38

        If Mitt is a capitalist….well, he IS very rich….

        SamFox

      • MikeR

        I never quoted Ron Paul as saying “we should have total isolation”. Go back and read my post. I took a look at all the sites you referenced, and they were mostly YouTube bits taking Romney out of context. He was Governor of a very blue state and he was dealing with a Democrat legislature. I’m going to repeat this, at the risk of boring even myself: We only have two viable choices for President. One of them is a marxist, and the other one is a capitalist.

      • Gea

        History had demonstrated amply that Marxism does not work in real life, and neigher does Isalm (just look at all the basket case countries run by sharia). Capitalism needs to have carefully designed regulations that preserve free markets rather then allowing creation of monopolies.

        The esence of a functional society is work, justice and compassion, none of which can be had either under Marxism or Islam, which are promoted by Barak Hussein Obama. Romney will win in a landlisde in November, and we will be free from a theoretician Obama with no common sense and understanding of history.

      • MikeR

        Gea: I agree with all of your comments, except the one about Romney winning by a landslide. I think it’s going to be very close. It’s important that you get your friends and family to vote for Romney too. Also, don’t forget how important the Senate races are. Without a Senate majority, we won’t be able to repeal Obamacare. There are nine Senate races that are very close, and it is important that anyone who can send them money do so immediately, to pay for advertising. They are: Pete Hoekstra, MI; Connie Mack, FL; Todd Akin, MO; Linda McMahon, CT; Richard Mourdock, IN; Scott Brown, MA; Denny Rehberg, MT; George Allen, VA, and Josh Mandel, OH.

      • Gea

        All Americans who respect human rights and freedom of individuals, as specified in US Constitution MUST work hard to educate the voters what danger Barak Hussin Obama represents to American democracy and Western civilization by his cavorting with Islamists and Marxist ideologists. He is TOTALLY un-American who hides behind nice stories with empty promises. He just gave more money to Islamists of Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, thus our money will go to oppress women, children in Egypt and killing of Jews and attack on Israel. The supremacist ideology of Islam is similar to Nazi supremacist ideology, while Obama extolls Islam and Koran and disses Bible. This man is a menace to any free society and he WILL be defeated in November, because Americans are waking up to his taqiyya (an Islamist lies when among non-Muslims). I voted for him in 2008, but had watched what he does, rather then his sweet speeches that mean NOTHING, just as it was pointed out at Republican convention, by MAKE MY DAY actor.

        Political correctness had corrupted our people and is dangerous to US, as it is dangerous all over the world, where Marxist/Islamist ideologies are used as a Trojan horse to invade our societies and squash our freedoms, while attacking anybody who sees through their tricks as “racists” and “Islamophobes”. Obama not only endangers US soldiers but US and entire Western civilization by his cavorting with Islamists and white washing Islam with CAIR and OIC as a “peaceful” religion which is a total lie (taqiyya). We need a Commander-in-Chief and not a Caliph-in-Chief that we have now in the White House.

      • MikeR

        Again, I agree completely Gea. Now, start sending money to those Republican Senate candidates in MI, FL, MO, OH, CT, IN, MA, MT, and VA. Winning the Presidency is only half of the battle.

      • Gea

        Mammon is the God that I do not worship, and there are other ways than sending money to help get BO out of the White house.

      • MikeR

        What the hell does mammon have to do with it? Do you tell that to the checkout girl at the supermarket? Do you tell that to your internet service provider? GET REAL! This election is going to be very close, and it’s going to take a lot of money to win the presidency and the senate. If your participation in this election is limited to posting your opinions, you are just farting in the wind.

      • Gea

        There are many ways to skin a cat. You have yours and I have mine ;-) ! Don’t be like Marxist and ISlamists who insist that there is ONLY ONE WAY.

      • MikeR

        Gea, I smell a fart, and it isn’t mine.

      • SamFox

        Mike, you are correct. I was mistaken. It was Gea that said the total isolation comment. My bad. Sorry for the mistake.

        Regarding the videos, Romney was NOT taken out of context. Snakes On A Campaign is not disingenuous in this regard. Nor is the Romney & 0bama The Same. Fake Conservative Mitt takes him to the ground. You cannot refute what the videos show & say.

        If you can, please do so. Only when you prove the videos untrue will I retract what I said about Mitt.

        When he spoke to gun grabbers, he agreed with them. When he talked to those who support bearing arms, he agreed with them. When Mitt talked abortion to planned parenthood types he was OK with it. To pro life peeps he was pro life. On & on we could go…

        There is no honest refuting that yes, indeed, Mitt talked out of both sides of his mouth many many times.

        Mitt cannot be trusted. We never know which one will TRULY show up. “If there is a real Mitt Romney, will he please stand up? Please stand up!”
        a:-)

        Hey! This is your lucky day! I have more on Mitt..

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS9SF3vc-A

        http://godfatherpolitics.com/3369/is-mitt-romney-a-fiscal-and-social-liberal/

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJzrZX528nQ

        http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/05/10/bigger-government-in-2012-romney-2-1-trillion-in-defense-spending-obama-1-2/

        http://tinyurl.com/7v9vcvr

        Condensed version of McCain dossier on Romney, top 50 hits.
        http://tinyurl.com/89k9suc

        Romney & Gingrich on single payer.
        http://tinyurl.com/4xbajmk

        Romney volunteer goes Ron Paul

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrqFh3o4CM&feature=related

        http://www.revolutionpac.com/2012/01/former-romney-campaigner-defects-to-ron-paul/

        Mormons like Ron Paul–
        http://tinyurl.com/7ewejht

        http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=9b8827e2d9e8f8bf88bfe6fcb&id=6d5fff0d36&e=af36abff8d

        http://www.connorboyack.com/blog/latter-day-saints-for-ron-paul

        http://www.proconstitution.com/lds_perspective_romney_paul.php

        SamFox

      • MikeR

        SamFox: You obviously have much more time to sit around watching videos than I do. I’m not going to watch any more videos. There are only two people who have a chance to be our next president. One of them is a marxist, one of them is a capitalist, and neither of them is Gary Johnson.

      • SamFox

        MikeR, I have priorities & other things to do as well so I understand that it takes time & effort to become educated. Often at the expense of doing other things. One of my highest priorities is finding out how truthful the candidates are. Whether their current talk is in line with their past walk.

        Only Ron Paul measures up on that.

        This is a high priority because I have grand children…because of them I MAKE time to find out.

        The future of the USA is, I would say, a very high priority. Will we & our families be free in 10 yrs? Even in 2 or 5 yrs? Stuff like that is important to me, so I look for who REALLY is going to try for that if elected. I go beyond what they SAY to see what they have done. Mitt & Ryan? BARFF! Both are liars, big govt toadies…& so on. Both are Big Government Party shills, like 0 & John McManchurian.

        Again, if you took the time to find out, you would know that Ron P is the only one who measures up.

        Because I did the research I know that Ron Paul is our only & best hope in the political realm. That’s how I learned how bad Mitt & Ryan are, that Mitt is 0 in a diff suit, the same way 0 is Bush in a diff suit.

        One is a Marxist? The other a capitalist? The only true fiscally conservative capitalist is Ron Paul, who is also a Constitutionalist. Mitt & 0 are so far from the Constitution I am not sure they remember it exists.

        I am hearing that Ron is being asked to run 3rd party. :-) Now you can really get frantic!

        I support that run, as Ron has much more support from every group around the nation than fringe media wants US to know. LOTTA peeps not happy that the RNC is again playing US by giving us Mitt. They chose Mitt becuase nothing will change because Mitt IS PART of the establishment!

        Ron was suppressed & lied about by the RNC & most fringe media, including Fox, precisely BECAUSE Dr. Paul is OUTSIDE the establishment & wants to change it back to being under the US Constitution.

        How is that a bad thing?

        Don’t give me “Realistically Ron has no chance. We must support Mitt because he is an R & is not 0.”. Trading R & D establishment drones is why nothing has changed. Don’t you get that yet?

        We gotta have some one out side the establishment box!!! That is Ron Paul.

        NOTHING HAS CHANGED NO MATTER WHICH ‘PARTY IS IN OFFICE!!!”

        Why why why why is that so??? If you don’t know…God help US. You need to honestly answer the Q–Why has nothing changed? We trade party people for the other ne. Why does nothing change?

        All I want to know is what your answer is to that one.

        Thanks.

        SamFox

      • MikeR

        SamFox: Those are a lot of words, Sam, but the fact remains that on Nov. 6 we only have two viable choices. One of them is a marxist, one of them is a capitaist, and neither of them is Ron Paul. If you think Obama and Romney are both terrible choices, you have to vote for the lesser of two evils, or you will probably be voting for the mosy evil by default. Nov. 6 has absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul and your abiding love for him. Hang his picture on your wall, light candles around it, and surround it with flowers if it makes you feel good. Romney might not be your fantasy candidate, but he won’t do as much damage as four more years of Obama.

      • Gea

        There was an excerpt of Ron Paul speech, which he gave before the Republican convention and at which he refused to speak because he did not want to endorse Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan. I heard clearly what he said regarding Obama killing Osanam, and how “if America had different foreign policies those 3000 people would still be alive”.

        Dr. Ron Paul is a nice guy and has lots of good ideas, but he does not understand that Western civilization is under attack from Islam just as before Hitler marched into Chechoslovakia, Western civlization was under attack from Nazis. Both Islam and Nazism are supremacist ideologies, with their Jew hating dellusions. We whipped Nazis in WWII and we will whip Islamists after we get free White house from our Caliph-in-Cheif in Noveber, who is making it imporisuble to fight this ideology of hate that had been creeping into Western civlization with the help of political correctness and fear of their anger.

        There is going to a be a land-slide in Novamber and Romney/Ryan will have their work cut for them. Ron Paul is a detraction from this work, although he could help in cutting dysfuctional dole and introduce saner taxing policies.

    • DaveH

      Charlie Tall says — “There is no serious libertarian candidate, and won’t be for another four years, if ever”.
      The Libertarians have a Presidential Candidate every 4 years. And they are serious. Unlike the clowns that the Establishment keeps putting up for the Sheeple.
      This time it’s Gary Johnson:
      http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

      They will remain “minor” Charlie until people stop letting the Crony Politicians, Crony Capitalists, and their Crony Media lead them around by the nose.

    • Elaine

      Thank you for saying what you said i agree

  • Wayne C.

    I received several calls from the RNC/GOP and I ask them not to call me and to remove my name from RNC/GOP lists for money. What does a mega-bucks guy like Romney need with my money humm? If he wants the job so bad then let him pay for it and all the rest of the North-East Elitists RINO /libs GOP has failed us big time & I am disgusted as far as I am concerned the 2012 elections are just more of the same.

    • Mary

      Wish it was that simple, it’s the big corporations who want him to win so their taxes won’t be raised and the Republicans can deregulate the rules that help keep our environment and workers safe. ( they can make more money without the regulations ) They are throwing money at him to keep Obama out of office another 4 yrs. The Right wing propaganda machine has told the most outrageous lies they can come up with and they are shooting with everything they have. The “2016″ movie is a good example of a right winger “D’Souza” spreading that kind of crap. He is the author of the book. Look him up and see his real agenda. If Republicans used their brains, they would be able to see that Obama could not do all the things he promised because of the conspiracy by the Republican Congress to block all he tried to do. Once they had the majority in 2010, then they were able to do that. Look how many times they brought up trying to repeal the health care bill but let other legislature suffer. At least the health care bill got passed in the first yr of Obama’s term before the Tea Party vigilantes got their foot in the door by getting their people elected . They get votes the same way they always have, by fear tactics, The thing is, they are the ones that start all the wars and get us into debt and then blame the Dems when it isn’t straightened out in 4 yrs. You would think the Republican voters, the less fanatical ones, would look back and see this but they seem to have tunnel vision. It is strange how most of them are not wealthy but they side with those who are trying to take the things away from them that make their lives better, like health care, Medicare and social security. They deserve what they get if they vote for Romney, who tells one lie after the other, becasue he wants to be President so badly. Too bad the rest of us would also have to suffer with them. Let’s make our vote count against those right wingers who want ot take our freedoms away from us. It would serve them right if we could get a Democratic majority in the House and Senate so if Romney does become President, they could play the same game and make him look like a failure. However, Democrats normally do not play those kinds of childish games. They realize they are working for the American people, not their party. Too bad that message is lost to the Republican Congress members.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Wouldn’t it take less verbiage to say that you will vote for O again and you have no intention of voting for anyone else.

      • SamFox

        Mary, so what all did 0 do when he did have the House & senate? Who was obstructing them then? THEY HAD THE VOTES.

        My self, I don’t think I am any better off 5 TRILL ago.

        0 sucks. Just like Bush. Only diff between the 2 is that 0 has the gas pedal closer to the floor than Bush. Otherwise, 0 is doing what GW did.

        0 seems to have never heard of the Constitution. Just like Bush. And Mitt.

        SamFox

        S!

  • testament2012

    Black Americans weren’t given anymore a choice than any of us, Obama was groomed up and manipulated into office, much the same way as most other recently elected politicians. But here we are once again, is it too late to make a meaningful change ? given the two party system and powers that seem to direct them can we ever really have real change ? would that establishment ever allow it ? or would they just repackage, rearrange the appearance of it, I feel real change would be such a threat to the system they would invoke marshal law calling it a national emergency. “They” control the currency, the water, the food supply, law enforcement, medical service, media, would we be naive to believe they dont cont us as well.

  • http://Google Mike

    If you were drowning would you vet the qualifications of a rescuer? Our Republic is drowning!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      In this scenario you gave you hope the rescuer knows how to swim otherwise you will both drown.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Mike, obviously you’ve never read the story of “The Gingerbread Man”. The gingerbread man trusted the fox to take him across the river. It didn’t end well for the gingerbread man! Children’s stories are meant to TEACH us things! The gingerbread man was in a desperate situation and allowed the fox to convince him that his safety lied on the fox’s back! Needless to say, the fox GOBBLED him up!!! We are about to be GOBBLED!!!

  • Paul Wells

    Nice article, Bob L. In your conclusion paragraphs, option #1 will be the one, I predict. Option 2, not a *freakin* chance, and option 3 is a non-starter as well. Look, Romney may be statist and all things we don’t need right now, but at least he ain’t Obama, and that’ll have to do. I’ll say it one more time: If you write in Ron Paul (as much as I like the guy), you have given a vote to BHO! If you don’t believe me, or don’t understand how that could be, take a look at past elections where write ins have taken votes from one candidate or another!

    • KENYAN KRUSHER

      There is no way in Hell, Romney can be as bad as Obama…..talk about abortion?, Obama voted to snuff out the life of a baby that survived an abortion….not even Ted K. & Hilary voted for that!!!! Can you imagine Romney & his attorney general crapping on the Constitution once or twice a month like Obama & his partner in crime, Holder????

      See the movie , “2016″ & you’ll know there something way more sinister to Obama !!

      • Vester Kester

        You don’t know Mitt Romney, he did that as governor, That’s why he’s not talking about his tenure as governor. Please do your research well and you will understand what we are saying. I lived in Boston when he was governor. He score card is nothing to write home about.

      • Thinking About

        And how many times has Mitt changed his mind on abortion? Probably too many to count. We can not determine who to vote for on the basis of their opinion on abortion, this reason does not prove one fit to handle any office. This is why we are getting the statements from the likes of Todd Akin, who needs to take a few classes in simple biology 101. My goodness, he is so far away from the truth.

      • eddie47d

        The Kenyan Krusher has a mind that is in overdrive and heading for the cliff.

      • Retired Army Officer

        LOL…..I was thinkin’ the same thing, eddie.

  • Jess

    Kenyan VS Mexican, I don’t see any proof that mexican Myth is a natural born citizen. birthers filed against Myth being fit for president. So far we haven’t seen a long form birth certificate & his father was born in Mexio so Myth the Mexican is no more American than Obama. Both are foreigners. Obama’s less of a foreigner since the state of hawaii confirmed his birth records, no such proof from Myth the liar who now praises O’Romneycare.

    • JimRed

      “Obama’s less of a foreigner since the state of hawaii confirmed his birth records…”

      Which records have been proven to be forged. A Democrat operative working for the State of Hawai’i is hardly a credible source!

      • Chester

        So the GOVERNOR of the state of Hawaii, all the people who work in the department of vital statistics, and the computer operator who pulled up and printed out that long form certificate,just like he would for anyone else born in Hawaii during that period of time are ALL Democratic operatives? Or is it more that you would call the direct testimony of the doctor and staff who attended his birth questionable because they are all good Democrats too? Sir, all the information on his birth has been provided, from the actual hospital records where his mother was admitted, then discharged, WITH child in arms, to the birth certificate you keep calling a forgery because Sheriff Joe told you so. Get a grip, then get a LIFE.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Chester, if you STILL think that the birth certificate obumass presented to the American people is authentic, you are an IDIOT!!! I know, we aren’t supposed to engage in name calling! But honestly, there can be no other response to a statement such as yours!!! obumass’s OWN lawyer ADMITTED IN A COURT OF LAW THAT IT IS A FORGERY!!! You DENY forensic evidence that PROVES IT IS A FORGERY and you IGNORE admissions from his OWN lawyer!!! You must suffer from true brain sickness (ie brain washing)!!! WAKE UP BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!

      • Gea

        As somebody living off the grid since 2009. I do not watch TV listen to radio only occasionally and get my information didrectly from people who live it or from a variety of media that I get, both rights and left.

        I voted for BO in 2008. because his nice stories were really impressive. After reading Koran from cover to cover, when some Florida pastor wanted to burn it, and seeing BO extolling Islam and Koran, and then seing him bow to Saudi king, my judgement of him was turned by 189 degrees. ANYBODY who had read Koran and Hadith, and learned about history of Islam and current Islamic terrorism as well as their whining about “islamo phobia” KNOWs what BO vallues are.; Theya re opposite of American values, since ANYBODY who suppoerts Muslm Brotherhood, supports genocidal supremacist ideology that wants to murder non-Muslms.

        BO STINKS to high heaven and needs to be vented ouot of thte White house. HE seams to be a good family man, rather hen-packed by his uppity wife who apparently keeps him from Opra. He is really anice guy to have as a neighbor (except that his hous costs 30 times mine, and so I could NEVER live in HIS neighbborhood), but totally UNFIT to govern USA> He may be a good prime minister to a Saudi King or seom other Golf fiefdom ;-) !

    • SamFox

      Jess, I agree with ya on vetting Mitt. But we should also vet -. I have looked & looked but I can find no proof that 0 was EVER vetted.

      Regarding 0′s BC–Hawaii gov can’t find it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaV2lNJvKuQ

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fm_FA7FslA

      http://patdollard.com/2011/01/hawaiis-governor-cant-find-obamas-birth-certificate-with-video/

      http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/252833/

      So far, you can’t prove where 0 was born nor can I. Only 0 can. But he won’t do it. By ‘he won’t do it’ I mean produce or allow the paper long form to released for examination.

      Then there is the matter of a lot of other papers 0 has hidden &/sealed.

      There at this point in time, a lot more evidence that 0 was born out side the US &/or one of his parents was not a US citizen.

      You may fuss & fume all you want. Attack the messengers rather than refute the message. But so far there is NO definitive proof of 0′s birthplace or that both his parents were US citizens making 0 eligible to be POTUS.

      Thanks.

      SamFox

  • Betty

    Euna,
    I agree with you. I’ll be requesting my email be removed from this forum, also. This is becoming a forum of Ron Paul morons! I pray to God that you folks don’t get your wish, because me and mine will have to suffer from your craziness!

    • JimRed

      “This is becoming a forum of Ron Paul morons!”

      In fairness, though, even a broken clock is right twice a day. When the Paulites are right, we should incorporate their opinions into ours; when they’re wrong we should ignore them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000929742691 Eugene Sevene

      Betty I have to say that you are one that shows some common sense. What the Ron Paul people do not get is the fact that a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama And this is why Obama will win and this country will lose. Ron Paul CAN NOT WIN. Now I like to think that I use at least a little common sense, Obama is bad for this country. Romney is not my first choice neither. The total problem is not who is president but also those that make up our so called law makers. Most of these people have been in office too long and think that no matter what they do they will be re-elected. It is time to clean house and replace all that have been in office for more than one term and give these people a new leader.. Now if any of these people have been FIRED they know what that feels like. COMMON SENSE SAYS SEND THE MESSAGE, DO THE JOB YOU WERE SENT TO DO OR BE REPLACED. Using my common sense says this would be the route to take, look at the long term effect. Somehow I don’t think that these people have the for sight nor the common sense to comprehend this concept, they can only see the here and now. It has taken many years to get us in the fix we are in and we are not going to make it better if we don’t stick together. The majority of the GOP will vote Romney, which means the minority will vote for Paul {Obama} which means Obama will win. Want to change this country, do something that counts,look at the future not just tomorrow. Don’t kick the can down the road as the politicians do. SEND THE MESSAGE.

      • San

        Amen

      • DaveH

        Eugene says — “What the Ron Paul people do not get is the fact that a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama And this is why Obama will win and this country will lose. Ron Paul CAN NOT WIN”.
        Fortunately for the Crony Politicians and their Crony Capitalists, a large portion of the voting population has been swallowing that sort of nonsense for the last 120 years as the Progressives continued to consolidate their stranglehold on the US Government.
        What could be more ignorant than voting for the lesser of two evils and expecting anything more than evil to be the outcome? There will always be the “lesser of two evils” served up by the Shadow Government, so we can never break free of the stranglehold until foolish people quit drinking the tainted Kool-Aid.

    • DaveH

      Betty says — “I pray to God that you folks don’t get your wish, because me and mine will have to suffer from your craziness!”.
      What “crazyness” is that, Betty?
      I’ll be waiting for the specifics.

      • chiox198

        Bump : )

      • tom

        shadow government?? really Dave? that sounds pretty crazy to me. no one says ron paul is a bad man. but he is an isolationist and since we have allowed the communists to over take us over the past 50yrs, we cannot just close the door to america and hope the rest of the world will go away. it may take a few election cycles, but starting with the house and senate, vote out the bad and in with the good. like rons son rand. there is no shadow govt. but the terrorists have infiltrated every level and plan to take us down from within. so lets (together) identifiy them, root them out, and replace them. starting with the pres. he is our greatest threat right now. not mit romney

      • DaveH

        Tom says — “shadow government?? really Dave? that sounds pretty crazy to me”.
        Well, I guess that’s fair since I think you’re extremely ignorant, Tom.
        Obviously you haven’t done any reading outside the Propaganda channels. Read some of the books I linked to and learn something.

        Tom says — “no one says ron paul is a bad man. but he is an isolationist”.
        Proof of your ignorance, Tom. Ron Paul is a non-interventionist not an isolationist. He believes, as I do, in trading peacefully with other nations rather than at the point of a gun:
        http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/01/29/i-like-george-washington-except-on-foreign-policy/

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Bye bye, Betty! Your naivety will be missed! NOT!!! People need to understand that BOTH parties got us to where we are!!! If you vote for the STATUS QUO, you will GET the STATUS QUO!!! You need only look at recent history and FACTS to KNOW that BOTH parties have intentionally put us here!!! Denying reality won’t change it!!! If you are willing to be a little puppet and accept only what they give you, it will be nobody’s fault but YOUR OWN!!! The people in charge of this government are evil! They manipulate and brain wash us EVERY DAY!!! Even though they are destroying this country, taking away jobs, taking away our rights and destroying the ecomomy etc…you STILL somehow believe that they will fix things and save you! THEY won’t SAVE you!!! THEY are the ones doing the destroying!!! If we don’t GET THEM OUT, our country is done, finished over!!! If you keep voting the way you have been, there won’t BE anything left!!!

      • Winddrinker

        Is there a hysterical female on this board. It is beginning to smell like it.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Winddrinker, you obviously don’t know the definition of “hysterical”! Look it up!

      • The brainwashed never wonder

        You are right about both parties. As Tom Anderson* said in his speech on an old lp record I have, called ‘Bi Partisian Treason’: “First off I would like to say that I equally like
        both parties-Socialist party ‘A’.. and socialist party ‘B’.”
        *Author of “Straight talk” and “Silence is not golden, it’s yellow.”

      • The brainwashed never wonder

        Before I forget have you read Arnold Lobel’s fables? His are as good as Aesops.
        If you can you should buy “Come to think of it” by Elizabeth Linington and “You can trust the communists to be communists”by Fred Schwarz. In Liningtons book she has a funny polital fable which she calls “A Fable For moderns.” It is in the start prelude, or first chapter of the book.(I know it’s one of them)
        I’ll give a synopsis of it:
        Old mac had a farm. His farm was starting to be invaded by wolves. But he’s too deaf and blind and brainwashed by old hand Zecky (a wolf in disguise, or at least pro- wolf), to do anything about it.
        His ol sheepdog comes to him numerous times to warn him to plug up the holes in the fences but, he is told by Jr, his “smart because he just got back from college”)
        son that the dog is senile.
        The sheepdog:”Old mac i’m tellling you they get into the livestock in disguise and the livestock don’t know any better at the other farms!” OM: “Those farms are different from mine.”
        “Oh really? says the dog, ” John thought so too but his wife and farm hands tied him up. They were wolves in disguise.They were from one of the neighboring counties. All of which have gone pro-wolf!”
        Old Mac doesn’t listen when the sheepdog tries to tell him this important stuff..
        I think you will like this book. it’s old and cheap enough on amazon for anyone to buy right now. If I could I would have transcripted the fable here, but it’s in my storage right now.(So I did it from memory).
        One cute last line from the book is from Linington herself about the ending:”I suppose I’ll
        have to put another ending so it wont be too “graphic” for children.” It was sooo Funny.
        Her fable is so full of truth and is right on the mark about what is going on in the U.S today.
        And she this book was written a long time ago. Yeah it may be old but it’s still Gold.
        I hate it when people say “That wasn’t my time.”
        It wasn’t the frogs’ time either when he was in the cold water before it went boiling.
        Yesterday maybe yesterday, but it is how we got to today.. it Influenced today!
        Fabian socialists: “Make haste slowly.” Socialists: “Two steps forward one step back.”
        “A socialist is a communist in a hurry.” George Santayana:”Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it” etc.
        Another book which has great conservative fables like her’s is Fred Schwarz’s “You can trust the communists (to be communists),” in the book my favorite fables are his ones: “It can be just 1 who starts a fight (it doesn’t have to be 2),” “American football vs. Canadian(?)football,” “the tuberculosis germ,” and his fable about mom’s teaching daughters to be wise about kidnappers.
        Those aren’t their real names, but those are the storylines. One will have to page through the book or read the whole thing to find them. But the stories are worth searching for and the two books are Worth reading. Because of moving the books are in storage.(And I can’t get them right now. Ughh. I have Many more books with Truth in them than those two).

      • The brainwashed never wonder

        Oops I meant “political.” Oh well.. this nation is starting to have loose morals and look mispelled. Ha ha I guess my mistake will match the bad guys’ true faces. :)
        And at least I “proof read” afterwards. Better too late on my spelling, than in the fight for
        personal liberty in America. :)

      • MikeR

        What is YOUR solution Nancy?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        MikeR, I’ll keep it simple. VOTE FOR DEFENDERS OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY!!!

      • MikeR

        Blah, blah, blah. Bitch and moan all you want Nancy, but we only have two viable choices. On Nov. 6 capitalists can vote. On Nov. 7 socialists and communists can vote. Mark your calendar.

    • Craig

      Amen! These Ron Paul morons want to see Obama get reelected and have us turn into Greece by 2016. In their warped minds they think that we’ll all then turn to Ron Paul to save us. It is pathetic that they are betting on the destruction of this country to see their guy in office. The world is too dangerous a place to even consider such a risky scheme!!!

      • DaveH

        Again with the Greece thing.
        It’s dummies like you, Craig, who are heading us towards a fate like Greece’s by continuing to underwrite Big Government Politicians.

      • SamFox

        Craig, we have been Greece for quite sometime. Compare Greece’s debt with the %of their GDP, then do ours. Close enough for ya?

        In case you have yet to notice, the USA is NOW the biggest debtor nation in the history of the planet.

        We were turned down to the path to becoming Greece, or is it grease? since at least 1913.

        We may not have the riots & stuff yet, but we sure have the fed govt giving US more & more debt, over taxing, over regulating [to purposely stifle our economy] & a privately owned inflation machine as a central bank for the tinderbox to set US off.

        All that’s needed is the right ‘match’.

        SamFox

  • boo

    gee that’s just terrible. we should re elect obama then. is romney a communist also? is he related to saul alinsky? does he have a us passport? will he open the borders and lie about deportations? will he shut down coal using the epa? will he circumvent congress?

    • eddie47d

      Referring to Obama as a communists is nothing more than a Republican power play and dishonest. Since coal is a proven health hazard apparently you plain and simply don’t give a darn. Now according to your way of looking at things then Romney is in bed with the money changers and is “related” to Michael Milliken and the rest of the crony capitalists who ruined our country.

      • Chester

        Eddie, sorry to step on your toes about coal, but it isn’t the ONLY proven heath hazard, nor is it as big a health hazard as trying to live without electricity because it has gotten too expensive for the poor to afford. Right now there is abundant natural gas, but that won’t last long if all at the EPA have their way and shut down all the Frakkng operations. Oh, and that same group is doing their best to slam the door on oil production inside the country as well as the cheap transportation of crude, or other oil products, from Canada down through the US. Supposedly it is all about health, but a good bit of it has more to do with who controls the money and how it is to be spent,

      • Craig

        How many communist connections does it take? Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Saul Olinsky for starters. You know he is a communist and the only thing left for you to do is to deny the obvious hoping he can fool the people a second time. People like you disgust me

      • James

        Coal is bad for your health…Well ya, if you eat it.
        Coal fired plants using low sulfur coal, which we have pleanty of right here in the good old USA, is a heck of a lot cleaner than you think. What exactly would you like to use to power the electric grid?
        Coal, gas, nuclear are all 20 cents per KwHour or less.
        Solar and wind are both over $1.18 per KwHour before the Goverment $1 per KwHour subsidy kicks in to make it competative as an “emerging technology”.
        Even though nuclear power has zero emmisions (barring a meltdown) so it’s the “greenest” but no one wants one in their back yard.
        I don’t feel like subsidising Solar and Wind anymore, they need to get competative quick or pack it in as one of those “great ideas” that just didn’t pan out.
        So guess its back to coal.

    • San

      Exactly, and if Obama is free to enact whatever he wants after his “last election”, this country will be over.
      See the movie “2016″

      • MikeR

        I saw 2016. At the end the audience erupted in applause.

      • Craig

        A wonderful movie. The same reaction when I saw it as well. It’s a shame that there’s no wealthy Republican to buy up the rights to this movie so that all Americans can see it for free. It is the research that the liberal media refuse to do. This movie not only exposes Obama’s communist, anti-capitalist agenda, but also the complicity of the media.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      boo, you say: “Is Romney a communist also?”. Does it matter? Those who ontrol BOTH parties ARE!!! They won’t be happy until they’ve taken EVERTHING from you!!! They want CONTROL of EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE!!! romney is just a puppet, as is obumass!!!

      • jim saulino

        these writers haven’t paranoia is the slightest notion of what communism is. It’s laughable to even suggest that presideny Obama is. He would make a very poor communist in any case.
        Also, as soon as I read that someone uses Hussein, O’B's middle name, the writer becomes automatically suspect as racist, anti-intellectual, and a waste of effort to continue reading.

        Yes we need a second party as the Democrats and Republicans are one party. The party of wealth and priviledge. There are no viable liberals in the USA organized as a political party. Our Democrats would be Conservatives anywhere else, most notably in England. The Republicans? Well, they’re too smart to put on uniforms; I’ll grant them that much wisdom.

        But back to communism: We aren’t even distantly close to it. Fear and McCarthyism is as close as the United States will get to communism in the next seventy-five years. Our mass addiction to electronic media insures that. Rush Limbaugh and Fox News Are the media that they themselves villify.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        jim, have you ever considered a class in syntax and grammar? You should! It would help!

      • The brainwashed never wonder

        Amen. It is important if Rom is a red or not, but it’s more important to look at the power behind the throne.
        Obama nation’s czars. George Soros. The Council on foreign relations. The group of 30. Bildeburgers. Federal Reserve and other central banks.
        Plus one more guy who’s name I can’t remember. Beck called him the “wizard of Oz”
        or something like that for being the man bahind the curtain of the Obama administration.
        Wish I could remember his name!

  • The Frog Prince

    Libewrtarians nweed to stop whining and just answer this question, “Which do you prefer Mitt Romney or Barak Husseing Obama.” Rather a simple choice.

    • The Frog Prince

      Libertarians. Bad typing…

      • Dwight Mann

        The damage is done already, so it dont matter whom is elected. That is why I am not voting GOP, I am voting for Ron Paul, for obvious reasons. The whole world is in the NWO, UN basket and this is the real enemy. . .
        The Banksters. . .

      • Robert Smith

        Te banksters who own corporations that the right wing supports their extreme spending to buy elections.

        That’s NOT American.

        Just think about it and quit thinking what Rush tells you to think. It’s that simple.

        Rob

      • macgyver1948

        Robert Smith… Thank you for this short post, it says so much.

    • DaveH

      Neither of the above. They are both frogs — just everyday political frogs — who won’t be changed to princes by the rubber-stamping-kisses of the sheeple.
      I vote only for Principled Politicians (which are few and far between) who aren’t selected and promoted by the Shadow Government.
      For Limited Government, Free Markets, Personal Responsibility, Individual Freedom, and the PEACE that comes with those — Vote Libertarian!
      http://www.lp.org/platform

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      If ONLY the solution were THAT simple!!! You think EXACTLY how “they” want you to think!!! You need to recognize that ANY candidate promoted by EITHER party will get you MORE OF THE SAME!!! BOTH parties are THE SAME!!! They lie to you and tell you what you want to hear, but their results are ALWAYS THE SAME!!! They NEVER solve any problems because THEY DON’T WANT TO!!! Even when a party has the majority they do nothing to FIX anything!!! It’s because things ARE exactly as THEY want them!!! Our ENEMY has infiltrated BOTH parties!!! You don’t even have to question this! Their results are RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES!!! BOTH parties are united AGAINST US!!! We MUST tell the democraps AND the republicraps, NO MORE!!! We SEE what you are doing and we are DONE letting you FOOL us!!! If you vote for the democraps OR the republicraps, you will get MORE of what we’ve already got!!! IF WE AREN’T WILLING TO CHANGE OURSELVES AND OUR THINKING, NOTHING WILL CHANGE AROUND US!!! We must DEMAND CHANGE!!!

      • San

        Are you supporting a violent revolution to get Ron Paul to take over and be a peaceful president?
        Listen, he lost the election. Vote to remove Obama or our country is doomed. If his son wants to carry on his peaceful mission, do that in 4 years and in his work in the senate. Why let our country be destroyed?

      • DaveH

        San says — “Are you supporting a violent revolution to get Ron Paul to take over and be a peaceful president?”.
        Did you see any such thing in Nancy’s message, San?

      • tom

        nancy, even though i agree, there is no third party nor should there be. if you decide not to vote for a demagog or republicant then you are voting for distruction. we need to start voting them all out. but it will take all of us of all races to stick together and DO it. the biggest enemy we face right now are our fellow lazy-ass americans who want everything given to them. We need more makers and less takers. Even bob that wrote this colum has his own agenda, making money by getting people to become members of his site for 40.00/ yr. He doesnt offer any solutions…until you pay him. is that any different than the polititians??

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear tom,

        You write: “Even bob that wrote this colum has his own agenda, making money by getting people to become members of his site for 40.00/ yr.” This is a free site.

        You write: “the biggest enemy we face right now are our fellow lazy-ass americans who want everything given to them.” Sort of like you who complains that I charge for this site (I don’t, by the way).

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        San, don’t EVER put words in my mouth!!! I have NEVER advocated violence of any type!!! THOSE are YOUR words, NOT MINE!!! My point is, if we continue to vote for the people who are DESTROYING our country, they will continue to DESTROY our country!!! When will people realize that they are being given NO CHOICE AT ALL?!? It is time to stand up and DO THE RIGHT THING!!! SHOW SOME INTEGRITY!!! Vote for the person that will do what’s RIGHT for America, NOT the person who MAY do less harm!!! STOP letting someone else TELL you who you can vote for!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • DaveH

        Tom says — “nancy, even though i agree, there is no third party nor should there be”:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States

        How do you expect anybody to listen to you, Tom, when you say such things?

      • Iona Cheryl

        Don’t you think it’s a little late trying to discredit Romney? I love Ron Paul and his belief system and his son. I think Rand Paul will be a terrific President some day to fulfill “his FATHER’S dream” LOL

        We will always be voting for the lesser of two evils. Perhaps this is Romney’s time to help America become more financially sound and get people back to work. Perhaps America will need Rand Paul’s expertise in the future. Right now we need Romney’s expertise to get us back to prosperity and hopefully military strength.

        So, why don’t we all who love our Constitution get behind him and let him help. Rand Paul will hopefully have his day.

    • Craig

      A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Barach Hussein Obama which the country will not survive. You people are clueless and have a death wish. God help us all.

      • chiox198

        Clueless Craig! You really should do some more research.

      • DaveH

        Craig,
        You are the “clueless” one. The same people who steered Bush are steering Obama. You need to do some reading:
        From the “Introduction to the 2011 Edition”:
        “They blame Goldman-Sachs but see their president [Obama], who got more campaign money from the firm than from almost any other source, as a helpless victim of circumstance, rather than an energetic conspirator in corporate malfeasance on top of being the enthusiastic heir and expansionist of George W. Bush’s aggressive foreign policy”.
        “When Obama chose as Treasury Secretary the young Timothy Geithner the man was already a precocious fixture of the establishment. He worked for Kissinger Associates in DC and then joined the U.S. Treasury Department’s International Affairs division in 1988″.
        More here:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Wall%20Street,%20Banks,%20and%20American%20Foreign%20Policy.pdf

      • DaveH
      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Craig, GOD help us ALL when people will just “go along” with the very people who are destroying our great nation!!! Whether you vote for obumass or romney, you will get the status quo! That is, MORE OF THE SAME!!! How much MORE do you think we can take!!! BOTH parties have worked equally hard to tear down this great nation! That should be apparent by looking at what they’ve DONE, NOT at what they’ve SAID!!! Until we take back our country, they will whittle away at our rights until we have none left! What are you waiting for? Throw them out!!!

      • Craig

        Ok. Let’s vote for Ron Paul. Even though he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell. Obama will get reelected, we’ll be Greece by 2016. Then we’ll all see the light. Everyone will look upon Ron Paul as our saviour and he will come riding in to save us all and we all want to clean out congress. I see the light. Now if only you had explained it to me that way! Sounds like a great plan!!!!

      • DaveH

        How do you expect the US to avoid becoming like Greece, Craig, when you keep rubber-stamping Big Government candidates?

      • Craig

        To DaveH: Your guy lost. Boo Hooooooooo! Get over it!

      • Winddrinker

        It seems that the RP people just can’t let it go, even though there is absolutely no chance of RP ever getting elected. They are willing to destroy the country if they can’t have RP. That is insane.

        The sad thing is that the rest of us could suffer because of their stupidity. With Romney we would buy ourselves some time, to do the things that we need to do.
        With obumscum, it is over.

        There isn’t a bit of difference between the two parties in D.C., government has become a farce. The republican dominated House still votes for every thing obumscum puts in front of them.
        They just voted to give obumscum the power to appoint 178 of his cronies to government positions, wihout the congress approving his appointments. Chuckie Shoe said that will take the “work load” off the congress so they can spend all their time “passing new laws.”

        These appointments will be to the most important agencies that run this country. Take one guess, what kind of people will be appointed to run this country. These are the people that want to replace the Constitution with the koran.

        Obumscum’s dream, our nightmare.

      • Robert Smith

        DveH asks: “How do you expect the US to avoid becoming like Greece, Craig, when you keep rubber-stamping Big Government candidates?”

        You do remember that government grew faster and bigger under Bush than at any other time of our history except during war?

        Oops, he did get us into a couple of those while cutting taxes at the same time. How did he expect to pay for them?

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Republicans have their own secret credit cards. Automatically pops out when the bugle sounds.

      • MikeR

        Huh? WhatyoutalkinaboutWillis?

  • DEfromDC

    I have to assume you haven’t met the man. Nothing more needs to be said.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I JUST READ ON ANOTHER SITE, THE MONDAY NIGHT SESSION OF THE CONVENTION HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO THE STORM. AFTER THE MONDAY-AFTERNOON SESSION, THE CONVENTION IS SCHEDULED TO RECONVENE TUESDAY. THIS ARTICLE WAS POSTED YESTERDAY.

    SO, IT LOOKS LIKE MONDAY NIGHT WILL BE ABOUT WATCHING SOME PRESEASON NFL-FOOTBALL.

    • Robert Smith

      And that’s a problem because??????????????

      Rob

  • Harold Olsen

    I’m hoping there is an upset at the GOP convention and someone other than Romney — hopefully a true conservative — gets the nomination. I think it would be almost funny if Ryan ended up getting the nomination instead of Romney. Would he pick Mitt as his VP? I just know that I can not bring myself to vote for Romney. He’s little more than an Obama clone. Like McCain, he’s a liberal pretending to be a conservative. But then, I’ve also heard Obama claim to be a conservative. And the moon really is made of green cheese.

    • Robert Smith

      Harold bleats: “He’s little more than an Obama clone. Like McCain, he’s a liberal pretending to be a conservative.”

      Really? What do you think about Goldwater. Certainly he was a conservative. But oops, he didn’t want government interfearing in a woman’s medical issues. Oops, he didn’t worry about gays being in the military, even back in the 1960′s.

      But it isn’t “conservatism” that the Republicans ane extreme right are basing their politics on to control America. It’s the “Southern Stratigy.”

      More details are available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

      • JimRed

        “Oops, he didn’t worry about gays being in the military, even back in the 1960′s. ”

        There was no need to worry; the Uniform Code of Military Justice was followed and enforced. If a homosexual behaved himself, he was treated like any other serviceman. If he misbehaved, he was removed from the service. We had one on my ship, in my department, who some suspected but no one was sure of. He propositioned a teenage boy while off duty, was reported, and removed.

        HOMOSEXUAL, because there’s nothing GAY about it.

      • DaveH

        Much truth can be gathered from reading “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas Dilorenzo, and then reading the Confederate Constitution:
        http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_csa.asp

        Notice that it uses the original Constitution as boilerplate, with changes to remedy what the South thought were flaws in the original Constitution.
        Such as an absence of the “General Welfare Clause” which has been used extensively by Progressives to allow all sorts of Power to the Federal Government which was never intended by the Framers.
        From the original Constitution (Article I, Section 8) — “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States…..(list of other Powers)”
        From the Confederate Constitution (Article I, Section 8) — “The Congress shall have power-
        (I) To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises for revenue, necessary to pay the debts, provide for the common defense, and carry on the Government of the Confederate States; but no bounties shall be granted from the Treasury; nor shall any duties or taxes on importations from foreign nations be laid to promote or foster any branch of industry; and all duties, imposts, and excises shall be uniform throughout the Confederate States…. (2) (succeeding list of powers)”.
        Note the absence of “general Welfare”, and also note that the taxing Power was enumerated in the Confederate Constitution, rather than included as a somewhat vague header to Section 8.
        Also notice in Section 9:
        “Sec. 9. (I) The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.
        (2) Congress shall also have power to prohibit the introduction of slaves from any State not a member of, or Territory not belonging to, this Confederacy”.
        Does that sound like a South defending Slavery, as Robert Smith’s Wikipedia article states — “Though the “Solid South” had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party’s defense of slavery prior to the American Civil War”?

      • DaveH

        “Distinguished historians James Ford Rhodes and James G. Randall also contributed to the
        view of Reconstruction as a vindictive, abusive, corrupt, political racket. Dunning, Rhodes, Bowers, and Randall were Northerners who documented in great detail how the Republican Party—which is to say the federal government—ignored presidential vetoes and federal
        court rulings, disenfranchised white Southerners while giving the vote to ex-slaves (who were instructed to vote Republican), formed new state puppet governments run by Republican Party
        hacks from the North, and used this power to plunder Southern tax-payers for more than a decade after the war”.
        http://mises.org/journals/jls/16_2/16_2_6.pdf

        Is it any wonder that there were resentful whites who took out their frustrations on blacks? The blacks were simply unwitting pawns for the evil Politicians’ schemes. As usual, the Politicians succeeded in alienating groups of people for their own personal gains.

      • Robert Smith

        Notice how I post about the extreme right not being about “conservatism” but that the Republicans of extreme right are basing their politics on to control America. It’s the “Southern Stratigy.”

        Details are available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

        But the extreme right wing wants to talk about Linclon, not Goldwater who didn’t worry about gays in the military and he was pro-choice.

        Rob

    • eddie47d

      If you loved our economic meltdown in 2008 with all the shady deals on Wall Street then you will indeed love Mitt Romney who has been involved in several himself. Is that the American way you want where Mitt brags about this country he says he loves while reaping massive fortunes with shady operatives. When Michael Milliken (Junk Bond king) was under indictment Romney went to him for a loan and received it. He set a precedence in how he would do business and who he favors. In his own words Romney stated in a book where he endorses “creative destruction” . To use any means to take down another company and make immense wealth.

    • San

      See the movie 2016. We cannot have Obama fulfill his father’s dreams, his destiny. It will be the destruction of the US.

      • Gea

        Don’t worry be happy! BO will be retired in Novewmber in a landslide election, and then he can go either to his Muslim half-brothers in Kenua, his Muslim Brothers in Egypt or to his King in Saudi Arabia whom he loves, to write Dearms of My Mother, to figure out why a 17 y old white girl fell for an old Kenyan Marxcist Muslim to give him a baby Barak Hussein, and why she then fell for another Marxist Muslim from Indonesia had another child, before finally leaving such guys and came home to America.

        Obama is clearly not espausing American valules since his formative years were as a Muslim boy living with his Marxist Muslim step-father who was a spokesman for oil industry, which is well protected under BO and Saudis who finance islamic terrorism with US help (moneyfrom oil we purchase to run our cars).

        The Muslim extravaganza planned at the DNC next week will ensure not only landslife election of Romney/Ryan, but Obama his Muslim Brothers will take down entire Demoncratic party. Then we will have to deal with slash and burn Republicans who promote their corporate communism and may also cow tow to Islamists for oil.

      • carrobin

        It never ceases to amaze me how many people still believe in fairytales.

      • Winddrinker

        The movie 2016 reveals why bad things are being done to America. It brings forth obumscums’ “frame of refence,” and why he isn’t like Americans and why he hates this country.
        You will find out why he hates Whites (all Whites) and where he gets the idea that White people have stolen all their wealth from poor people.

      • Deborah

        Well said, Winddrinker. To any of you who have not yet seen the movie, 2016: Obama’s America, it is a MUST SEE. It will educate and enlighten you to just how dangerous Obama is for our country. Please go see it. Bob Livingston – Please encourage your followers to see this movie. It is very important.

      • macgyver1948

        Deborah… Yep, that movie could be as true as any we can see of the future on the Syfy Channel…

      • Deborah

        Awww c’mon macgyver, surely you can be more witty and creative than that. Only a simpleton would rely on an over-used comment like that. Here’s another one for you…
        Have a nice day.

      • macgyver1948

        Deborah…. LOL. ok, whatever you say. Oh, enjoy your evening… :-)

    • Craig

      Mitt will be the nominee. He’s not ideal. But, he is also not out to destroy the country, nor is he a communist like the current occupant of the White House. Do you have any idea what we’re up against? For the facts, either read Denesh Desouza’s (spelling?) book “The Roots of Obama’s Rage” or see the film 2016. Do both: our predicament is desparate. This whining about Mitt is unproductive especially in light of what we are up against. Obama hates this country and said he wants to “totally transform” it. You don’t totally transform something you like. He was mentored by a card-carrying member of the Communist party (Frank Marshall Davis – google him and you can even find his communist card number) and was friends with Communist terrorists, chose communist teachers in school (read “Dreams from my father”) and sat in the Church of a communist preacher for 20 years. A globalist billionaire George Soros helped bankrole his campaign: Soros wishes to destroy this country which stands in the way of one world government. Any you’re telling me Mitt is not a true conservative. I wish this, I wish that. This tells me you need to educate yourself more so that you fully understand that there is an enemy of this country in the White House. When are you people going to WAKE UP??????? You and all the other whiners need to get behind Mitt, because he is our guy and the one last hope of this country. The country cannot stand a second term of an unleashed Obama (he recently told the Russians and thereby KGB Putin he would be free to do what he wanted in his second term). He should have been impeached and removed from office for all his violations of the Constitution which he despises. ENOUGH OF THIS! We don’t have another chance!!!!

      • Julie

        This is right on. I pray every day people in this country will wake up.

      • DaveH

        Craig says — “He’s [Romney] not ideal. But, he is also not out to destroy the country, nor is he a communist like the current occupant of the White House”.
        It’s unlikely that any of them purposely want to “destroy the country”, but they are doing so in feathering their own nests at the expense of the rest of us. That includes Romney.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Craig, what you say about obumass is certainly true but what makes you think that ANYTHING will be any different with romney?!? Things are the way they are not only because of obumass. The destruction of this country has been intentional and it started way before obumass! There are people behind the scenes who act as puppet masters and pull the strings of EVERY president, senator, congressman and supreme court judge in recent history. You must recognize that every candidate that we accept from “them” goes on to further “their” agenda! The problems that this country is facing have been CREATED by them!!! We must not FALL for the idea that we MUST vote for THEM!!! If we want our country back, we must get “them” OUT of our government!!! I’m going to copy an article that SHOULD make things VERY SIMPLE AND CLEAR TO EVERYONE!!! We are IN the position we are IN because some people wanted us here! It would be very naive to believe that obumass is the ENTIRE problem versus being PART of the problem!!! If you don’t see the WHOLE picture, you won’t be able to act accordingly when you vote.

        Charley Reese’s final column for the Orlando Sentinel…
        He has been a journalist for 49 years.
        He is retiring and this is HIS LAST COLUMN.

        545 vs. 300,000,000 People
        -By Charlie Reese

        Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

        Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

        Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

        You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President does.

        You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

        You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

        You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

        You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

        One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

        I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

        I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

        Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

        What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

        The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

        It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

        If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

        If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red.

        If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it’s because they want them in Iraq andAfghanistan …

        If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

        There are no insoluble government problems.

        Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

        Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

        They, and they alone, have the power.

        They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

        Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees…

        We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

        Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thanks for the reminder, Nancy from Nebraska.

      • chiox198

        He’s still another ‘Bilderberg’ puppet like Obama. They sound great to get elected but once in…beware!

        He’ll continue Obama’s current destruction of America. RNC fear Ron Paul because he’s fully aware of the Bilderbergs’ plan. Paul won more delegates than Romney, yet the delegates were instructed to change their support to Romney resulting in lawsuits against the RNC. Electorals ARE rigged!

      • Craig

        To Nancy in Nebraska: Of course, we need to clean out congress as well which is a large source of our problems. That does not negate any of my points concerning Obama. I never said Romney is our savior. In fact, I said he’s not ideal. But then to suggest that Romney and Obama are pursuing the same policies is ridiculous beyond belief. What will taxes look like after another term of Obama? How about after a first term with Romney? Think there would be no difference? How about military cuts? Who wants zero missiles for this country? Would that be Romney too? How about the debt? The debt has soared under Obama more than all previous presidents combined. That’s ALL PREVIOUS!!!! Think there’s no difference whom we elect. How about cleaning out congress and electing the lesser of two evils? Now doesn’t that make more sense! Or did you just want to sound off about congress. Fine, but that still leaves the Supreme Court. Which one Romney or Obama will select candidates who would be strict constructionists or originalists in reading the Constitution? Please think. We won’t get another chance to get this right if Obama gets reelected. I urge you to become informed about Obama.

      • Winddrinker

        Conservatives must unite! ENOUGH of the stupid in-fighting! There is no question about it, if you want to stay a free people, you better get it together and fast..

        The other side is focused! They only want ONE THING! That is to get rid of us and the freedom we have enjoyed!

      • Deborah

        This is very true. Conservatives must unite! Obama is counting on our infighting to divide us and allow him to win the election. Remember, he is the most divisive president in the history of the U.S.. His class warfare agenda has already been very successful. Don’t let him destroy the GOP too. United we stand – Divided we fall.

      • eddie47d

        Winddrinker just can’t help himself with all that lying. Must be a Conservative thing. Either that or it’s not wind he has been drinking. Are you sharing with Deborah?

    • Paul B.

      What many fail to remember and take note is that Romney has a host of conservative elected and passionate citizens to guide him through the tough decisions. We are vocal, we are united on many fronts, especially those along economic and fiscal responsibility lines.

      Obama has NO interest in listening to anyone, even those in his own party. Obama is in a world all on his own, with the protection of Reid, that is all he needs to continue to deflect legislation, and rule through executive order.

      Again, Romney will have a hundred million active supporters watching his every move, 52 Senators, and 280 Congressmen. He would be hard pressed to ignore their wishes, not at least without a hellstorm to recon with.

      I feel much better with a pseudo-conservative in office rather than a proclaimed Marxist/Communist, and his liberation theology “change”, divisiveness, Holder, or more appointments like Sotomayor or Kegan.

      No Romney is NOT my preferred choice, But Bob, I think you exaggerated quite a bit and allowed your emotions to creep into your post. I know Ron Paul is the ONLY person for you, but your rhetoric shows too clearly your frustration and as such a bit over the top in your condemnation and comparison of Obama to Romney as two peas in a pod… NOT EVEN CLOSE.

      If you want Obama’s plans to “transform the US” which we know realize is NOT in our best interest, then go ahead and continue your near slanderous posts. A true American would accept that the US isn’t ready for a Ron Paul and therefore we accept the best we can AGREE on then do our part and stay on top of what they do and how they govern.

      Obama is an immovable force, at least Romney can be swayed as you so thoughtfully pointed out. that is good for us… and our ability to sway him in the right directions.

      Just ease off the condemnation a little. You don’t have to praise him, but at least don’t exaggerate his faults.

  • RevNowWhileWeCan

    After a tough weekend here in Tampa, it’s very obvious to the grassroots supporters that your last conclusion of the events to take place is exactly what will happen. We still have boots on the ground here and we are not going away quietly. We are fighting this til the bitter end. Then when that fails we will continue to fight the good fight from within and change this from the bottom up because us Paul supporters have always known, it will and has NEVER be changed from the top down.
    http://www.rlc.org/2012/08/26/a-letter-to-delegates-in-tampa/
    It really is a mess down here and I can tell you that there are more people in uniforms and earpieces then there are “Romney supporter’s”. You could fit all of “his people” in the V.I.P. lounge at Scores here in Tampa. Those girls love a man in uniform!
    The only wind blowing around here isn’t coming from any hurricane. Any logical person would have to ask why, if the job is to “just win” and replace Obama, would they alienate a whole block of voters, of which they need to win the election? When asking that, the answer is quite clear.

    • RevNowWhileWeCan

      I just got kicked off of my first blog site, the right scoop. Anyone hear of it? I came across it by chance because of this article, http://www.therightscoop.com/ron-paul-if-i-was-in-charge-the-3000-people-killed-on-911-would-still-be-alive/ and they were killing Paul and you guys know I don’t use profanities but when the personal attacks start coming, I’m not one to back down but I got into it with the writer of the article and he didn’t like what I had to say I guess? If anyone gets bored later please go and take care of my light work. I post under the same screen name if they even left my comments up. :)

    • tom

      hey rev, i know you paul supporters are dissapointed. But you need to vote for mit regardless. and please dont sit home and do nothing, that is just a vote FOR president obama.and as far as you americans who just happen to be black…if you think the president is your brutha, i got news for ya…hes your mutha. He doesnt give a darn about ya all any more than he gives a dang about me. If the president gets re-elected then your new slave master IS a black man.HE HAS SAID SO !!! are you not listening ?? his actions speak so loudly that people cannot hear what he says. Pay attention and lets all come together, and stop falling right into their game plan of division. Obama IS an elitest. hes not some poor homy from the hood. He says that he wants to turn our soverignty over to the UN. ARE YOU SERIOUS?! is that what we want? black ,white, mexican, asian, it will affect us ALL!! I to am on the fence about mit. but i will vote for him this time to try and avoid civil war on our own soil. together we will work towards the proper govt. officials. Remember our moto “united we stand, divided we fall.” we are falling because they are dividing us.

      • RevNowWhileWeCan

        tom,
        I don’t get why you guys keep railing for a party instead of a candidate? How can you look at yourself in the mirror and say, “I must vote for a guy I don’t like so he can beat a guy I don’t like?” That thinking is circular and has gotten us nowhere. I can’t restate this enough. The paradigm of voting for “the lesser of two evils” has to end because it is exactly how they want you to vote. Until we stop compromising on these banker whores the crumbling of America will continue unimpeded no matter the puppet choice. But, I will say this. If you held a gun to my head and said you MUST pick Romney or Obama well then I’d have to choose…………THE TRIGGER!

      • RevNowWhileWeCan

        tom,
        BTW are you suggesting that the Bain Capital guy that went to ISRAEL and promised unwavering support for money is not an elitist? :) Surly you are not that far out of the loop!

      • Winddrinker

        Ron Paul supporters are the ones acting like “children.” If they can’t have their way, they are taking their marbles and leaving the game! They don’t want to join other conservatives to help get this country a chance to survive…it is their way or the highway…
        must have learned that from obumscum.

        I haven’t seen adults act so crazy as some of these RP people. It is almost like a mental illness. The fact is that we all need to come together and fight the real enemy. Is it worth throwing away the country because you guys “just are not happy.” The demonrats don’t “eat their own.” Only the conservatives do that, and the other side knows this and they use it to their advantage.

      • Deborah

        Once again… Well said Winddrinker.

      • RevNowWhileWeCan

        windrinker,
        I still don’t understand your point. Who is leaving a game? I will cast my vote. I didn’t support Robomney before and I will not support them in November. Your cute reference “marbles” and “games” makes my point. Because of your personal frustration of not being able to keep your big boy undies on and NOT compromise your personal beliefs and switch your vote to Robomney? or because your are expressing even more frustration of not being able to convince ANY people to compromise their views and join you on team (Romney?) you seem to enjoy venting on confident unwavering Americans. It sounds to me as though you have internal issues that you need to work out so go stand in the corner. Make sure your nose is touching the wall or time will be doubled and when you can come back and explain to me in a civil manner why it is you are voting for whom you are voting then maybe we can continue this debate. :) Until then keep you cute game references on the playground because this is NO game.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    “Bob Livingston,” GREAT ARTICLE, SIR.

    I REFUSE TO BELIEVE REPUBLICANS ARE IGNORANT ABOUT Governor Mitt Romney.

    I BELIEVE A-L-L CAUCASIANS – REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL IDEOLOGY – HAVE DECIDED TO LET THE “black” HAVE HIS EIGHT YEARS, SO “black” PEOPLE WILL FINALLY “SHUT-UP” ABOUT THE “racist white man.”

    IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, I BELIEVE REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE PREFERRED NO NOMINEE AT ALL AND LET THE KENYAN WIN UNOPPOSED. THEN, “FUN TIMES” WOULD RETURN ON 20 JANUARY 2017.

    AS ALWAYS, SIR, I ENJOY YOUR SITE,
    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    • Harold Olsen

      You can’t be serious! Even if Obama gets reelected, blacks will never shut up about whites being racists. To the blacks whom I refer to as the “I’m a victim” blacks, those that blame others and especially the fact that their ancestors were slaves for any problems they have so they don’t have to take responsibility for anything, just being white means you are a racist. These blacks are little more than whining, immature children.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Harold Olsen,”

        SIR, I AGREE. BUT NOW, CAUCASIANS HAVE SOMETHING TO “THROW BACK” AT NEGROES WHO ARE CONSTANTLY WHINING. NEGROES WERE GIVEN A PRESIDENT WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN IN “NEGROES’ IMAGE.” [It is not Caucasians' fault this "black" did not "turn-out" the entire way Negroes wanted]. WHY DO YOU THINK THE MOUTHS OF Jesse Jackson, Sr. AND Al Sharpton HAVE BEEN “SEWN SHUT?”

        IN THE PAST, CAUCASIANS HAD TO SUFFER AND BE LABELLED “RACISTS” BECAUSE OF THEIR ANCESTORS’ ACTIONS. YES – PREJUDICE AGAINST NEGROES STILL EXISTS, BUT, THIS IS DUE TO THE FACT AMERICA HAS A Constitution WHICH WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR COLORED PEOPLE. CAUCASIANS KNOW TO “THROW AWAY” A USELESS Constitution WOULD MEAN STARTING OVER “FROM SCRATCH.” YOUNGER CAUCASIANS DO NOT HAVE THE “STOMACH FOR IT.”

      • Robert Smith

        Christopher claims: “AMERICA HAS A Constitution WHICH WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR COLORED PEOPLE”

        Really?

        Please be secific: What would a constitution need to accomidate colored people?

        Rob

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Robert Smith,”

        MY POINT IS SIMPLE. NEGROES ARE “FREE” BECAUSE SOME JACKASS “CAME-ALONG” AND CHANGED A DOCUMENT WHICH WAS CONSIDERED PERFECT BY THOSE WHO WROTE IT.

        WHY SHOULD ANYONE CARE ABOUT THE Constitution AFTER IT HAS BEEN CHANGED SO MANY TIMES? Mr. Smith, DO YOU REALLY THINK CAUCASIANS UNDER FORTY CARE ABOUT THE Constitution AND ITS FUTURE?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Robert Smith,”

        THERE IS NO NEED TO MAKE THE Constitution ACCOMODATING FOR NEGROES. NEGROES DO NOT BELIEVE A-N-Y LAWS – FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL – WORK FOR THE “BETTERMENT” OF NEGROES.

        WHEN NEGRO MALES GO TO JAIL, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE SO-CALLED “LAW” THEY BROKE.

      • Tom Cook

        Harold, basically what you say is right on. However, I believe there are more and more black people like Walter E. Williams, Thomas Sowell, Allen West, and the Reverand James David Manning who are intelligent and great Americans; so, like the Reverand Manning, I refer to black supporters of obama as [expletive deleted]–for they have no honor.

      • Gordon

        Harold and CAH: Seems as though you both can be right. Blacks are the most racist and prejudiced people I have ever encountered, and their self-chosen public image projects that. They relish being seen as racist against everyone and disrespectful to whites. CAH you are correct: few black have any respect for any laws whatsoever at any level. Most seem to believe that opposing laws makes them standout as beacons in their racist society. Just like Obama, Jackson, and Sharpton preach, negoes CAN never be successful without the help of whites.

      • Gea

        If Mitt Romney had “Whitees for Romney “, he would be called a racist, but when BO has “blacks for Obama”, it is OK. Political correctnes had run its course in America and it is time for upholding Americans values, which are opposite from what BO preaches with his cavorting with his Muslim Brothers, and his half-baked Marxist fantasies, while hiding under “protectinfg the poor and middle class Americans”. MItt Romney gives 15% of HIS income to charities, while BO only 1% although BO is almost as rich as Romney because he is a good story teller. Those stories got him elected, but America needs no more story tellers but competent managers who still have a heart for REAL poor and depriveed who are not just milking the system.

        BO however, was not qualified for an US president (Neither was baby Bush for the 8 years before him) as the alst 12 years clearly demonstrated. I am not sure that Gore was qualified eitehr, since all those politicians are smooth liars and do not know how to properly run the country. Taxy cab drivers may do better than those guys with heads in the clouds, devoid of reality testing as BO is ;-) !

      • Mary

        I agree with you. Besides I am tired of the racist thing. It will never stop. Even if they could be made “white” then “they” would be complaining about the blacks having it made. So we do not need to discuss this matter on and on – we need to working getting our Constitution upheld, a president that at least worships the God in Heaven and not Allah, a president that has proven that he can make money and not just take it from the people. We must not stop Obama being removed or we will not have another chance. America will be gone. See the film 2016 and see how you like that ending!

      • Brenda

        I truly think that Obama set the ‘Black Man’ and Civil Rights back for decades…..I DO believe it WAS time for the black man to set in the Oval Office, I just think that Obama was the wrong choice! Sadly it has created more friction than trust….There are a LOT of blacks out there that would agree too.

      • http://google gary gerke

        I agree with you Harold! Another four years of Obama is a death wish for America, Romney might not be what we would call a great savior of the nation, however, the alternitive is sucicide. Every vote not for Romney is a vote for Obama, pick your poisen carefully!

      • Robert Smith

        Christopher answered my querry about what’s needed to be accomidating and he didn’t answer it: “MY POINT IS SIMPLE”

        You made the point that you don’t like the Constitution as it is.

        What would you like to change?

        Please be specific.

        Rob.

      • Robert Smith

        Christopher says: “WHEN NEGRO MALES GO TO JAIL, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE SO-CALLED “LAW” THEY BROKE.”

        Absolutely true, but what can be done to CHANGE that? You indicated that the Constitution falls short. OK, what needs to be changed?

        Perhaps if you looked at the work of Bob Zellner or Nathan Rutstein…

        Here, I’ll give you a start… Healing Racism in American: A Prescription for the Disease by Nathan Rutstein. That’s at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Racism-America-Prescription-Disease/dp/0963300717/ref=la_B001JOVIHU_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346110561&sr=1-3

        You may or may not agree, but at least it’s a place to start.

        Rob

      • macgyver1948

        Rob… You and Christopher seem to agree on “WHEN NEGRO MALES GO TO JAIL, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE SO-CALLED “LAW” THEY BROKE.” Absolutely true…”.

        Using just that wording it kind of implies that no other race has a disrespect for the law. There are no whites or Latinos or Irish or Italian or Asians or whatever else in prisons that have disrespected the law? I am only going by your wording so I can’t be sure. Those mass shooters a few weeks ago, and the one in NYC last week who in cold blood did the deed, were they all Black? I bet they didn’t have any respect for the law when they did their murder thing.

      • Robert Smith

        Sigh… Marry, Marry, Marry. You really have no clue about the Constitution of the United States of America.

        You want: “a president that at least worships the God in Heaven and not Allah,”

        From Article 6 or our Constitution: “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

        But, against our Constitution you proclaim a religious test.

        Oh well, another example of ignorance from the extreme right.

        Rob

      • macgyver1948

        Robert Smith… Nice response there. I have to wonder about the intelligence, or is it the intelligence people choose to receive and accept, of people who try to show differences between Allah and God when literally they are one in the same. The bibles are as different as night and day, such as the Hebrew Bible and any Christian Bible are not the same, but God is God by whatever name…

        “…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States”. Great words and if they aren’t part of what we need Freedom Of Religion would be meaningless.

        Also the Great words of “Separation Of Church And State” should be added to our Constitution the more there is any form of religious testing requirement attempted or how people say “Only our beliefs are right for all” in any form and try to enforce it with their religious differences and non-existent “superiority”, no matter who they are. We seem to need it more and more these days.

      • Robert Smith

        Here goes Mary again: “a president that has proven that he can make money and not just take it from the people.”

        Where do you think the 1% get all their wealth? The middle class is going down the drain and the difference between rich and poor is getting W I D E R.

        Where do YOU think the 1% get their riches from?

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Mary and company will come up with all sorts of trivial excuses because that is what they were told to say. It’s not true but it has been repeated so often it becomes robotic.

      • ron . r

        Mr. Olsen , if you would just go back and read your post and some of the others you would understand why some whites are viewed like you say they are by blacks. Anyone reading the bull on this site written by the so called authors would like me assume this is a riech wing blog. Well , not assume because it is.Anyone with an IQ above your very tiny one can figure out this site is anti- minority and anti- American.Joe Biden said it wrong, but he was right.

      • SamFox

        Harold, though not all black people are in your group, many are. Many of all races. Here is an example of the welfare mentality. Blacks don’t hold a patent on receiving welfare, but these are an example of the thinking–

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIkksi344cM

        SamFox

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Robert Smith,”

        YOU ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING. YOU ASSUMED I MEANT SOME NEGROES CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THE Constitution TO WANT TO CHANGE IT; NEGROES DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE Constitution AT ALL. IF SOMEONE TOOK A MATCH AND BURNED THE Constitution, NEGROES WOULD PROBABLY LAUGH.

        Mr. Smith, CAUCASIANS DO NOT REALIZE NEGROES ARE ANTI-AMERICAN.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “macgyver1948,”

        NEGROES HATE A-L-L LAWS! PERIOD!

        LAWS WERE THE FOUNDATION FOR SLAVERY. IF A SLAVE RAN AWAY, HE WAS BREAKING THE LAW. LAWS WERE THE FOUNDATION FOR “Jim Crow.” IF A “white woman” WALKED DOWN THE STREET, NEGROES HAD TO STEP ASIDE, SO SHE COULD PASS. Emmitt Till IS LYING IN HIS GRAVE BECAUSE OF THE L-A-W!

      • macgyver1948

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON.. If I didn’t grow up in New York City with many classmates and friends who were “NEGROES”, as you choose to call them and yourself, along with many Italians and Irish and Germans, etc. As well as travel and live in a few states around the country since growing up, even in the so-called bible Belt, I might believe you when you say “macgyver1948,”NEGROES HATE A-L-L LAWS! PERIOD!”…

        Sorry but I do not believe a lot of what I read you saying. I know the story of our past, I hate the things you mention, from all kinds of slavery to how when “A “white woman” WALKED DOWN THE STREET, NEGROES HAD TO STEP ASIDE, SO SHE COULD PASS”. This is a terrible legacy to pass on to our children but it should all be in the history books that are given to our school kids and be taught history as it really was. If we take out the horror of history we are doomed to repeat it. Wars should be shown how the real horror of it is and not be denied. We should be exposed to the good and the bad in history if we are to truly grow.

        Sorry for the ranting on history but what you say all to often brought it out in me since I cannot believe all you say.

    • RevNowWhileWeCan

      CHRISTOPHER,
      Be careful in generalizing any races. By doing so you do a disservice to yourself and ANY one person in ANY race that may not go along with the perceived racist notion. Too many people use the term racist in a derogatory way when the simple fact is that ANY time you mention ANY race in ANY light, good or bad, it is a racist comment. Categorizing people by their race, religion, political party, sex, sexual preference, etc. is EXACTLY what the oligarchs want! When they have the whole world divided over these trivial issues, and yes, in the grand scheme of things they are all trivial, the elitist’s sit back and collect the fruits from ALL SIDES when the bill comes. At the end of the day, there are bills for ALL divisive issues would you not agree. Focus your energies on whom it is that is collecting from this set divisiveness and you can join me in exposing the true issue which is the root of ALL issues. That’s right. M-O-N-E-Y.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “RevNowWhileWeCan,”

        I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. I AM SPEAKING FROM A NEGRO MINDSET. SINCE YOU ARE CAUCASIAN, WOULDN’T YOU R-E-A-L-L-Y LIKE TO KNOW HOW A NEGRO FEELS ABOUT YOU?

        IN MY COMMENTS, I ALWAYS EXPRESS MY VIEW – AND THE VIEWS OF NEGROES WITHIN MY ENVIRONMENT – OF CAUCASIANS. I DO NOT EXPECT CAUCASIANS TO AGREE WITH MY ASSESSMENT OF THEM. I HOPE CAUCASIANS CAN APPRECIATE A NEGRO TELLING THEM HOW HE/SHE TRULY FEELS ABOUT THEM – THE “GOOD” AND/OR THE “BAD.”

        SO, YOUR WARNING FOR ME TO BE CAREFUL WITH MY COMMENTS SUGGESTS SOME CAUCASIANS DO NOT WANT TO HEAR A NEGRO’S TRUTH – I DID NOT SAY A CAUCASIAN’S TRUTH. THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE IS, N-E-G-R-O!!!

      • RevNowWhileWeCan

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON,
        Please understand that I DO understand your point. My point is that you say you are speaking from “A NEGRO MINDSET”. My point is don’t speak from a negro mindset, speak from a human mindset. We have enough people in this world speaking from their different races/sexes/political parties/ etc. We will only begin to gain true equilibrium when we begin to speak as an individual for all people regardless of their difference in appearance or ideology. By the way CHRISTOPHER, I am not Caucasian. I am a mixed breed and grew up in the inner city of Boston where I’ve experienced prejudices from within AND outside.

      • Robert Smith

        From Christopher: “I DO NOT EXPECT CAUCASIANS TO AGREE WITH MY ASSESSMENT OF THEM.”

        When you YELL everything why should you get any respect? I’ve seen others mention it but you just don’t seem to want to be civilized around here. Can you at least follow the conventions of English so the rest of us can have a bit easier time understanding you?

        As a gay black man you also don’t seem to expect gays to agree with you either. You are on record as opposing the civil contract of marriage. Rememer, even atheists can be married. It’s a simple civil contract in the eyes of the government. Why should you decide who gets it and who doesn’t? After all, it wasn’t so long ago that mixed race marriages weren’t legal in many states.

        BTW, have you figured out what changes you want yet?

        I have an idea. Why don’t you exit for some period of time. That’s not to demean any of what you have to say, but to lose any stereotypes you may have connected with the way you have been posting.

        Then come back with conventional language skills and make your points on the basis of the ideas? As you are now you really don’t have much credibility but I can see that maybe you do have ideas.

        Rob

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Robert Smith,”

        YOU HAVE KNOWN ME FOR A WHILE NOW. DO YOU REALLY THINK I CARE ABOUT CREDIBILITY AND RESPECT? AS YOU MENTIONED, I AM AN ATHEISTIC-NEGRO-MALE HOMOSEXUAL IN A “LION’S DEN” FULL OF CHRISTIANS.

        IT IS MY SOLE RESPONSIBILITY TO “CHEER-ON” MY INTELLECT.

        PEOPLE ON THIS SITE SEEM TO THINK BY PROVIDING A WEB LINK IN CONJUNCTION WITH COMMENTARY, IT MAKES THEM CREDIBLE IN THE EYES OF OTHER COMMENTERS. I LIKE PEOPLE WHO TALK FROM THEIR “GUT.” ADULTS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A “BODY OF KNOWLEDGE” BASED ON THEIR LIFE EXPERIENCES.

        I APPRECIATE COMMENTERS WHO SPEAK FROM THE “GUT” – NOT, THOSE WHO PRESENT WEB LINKS. YOUR COMMENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXPRESSION OF Y-O-U-R VALUES – NOT, THE VALUES OF AN AUTHOR WHO WROTE A SILLY LITTLE ONLINE ARTICLE.

      • MikeR

        Christopher Allen Horton: You don’t speak from your gut. You speak from your southern-most orifice.

    • Vigilant

      From an e-mail I received yesterday: “Columnist Andrew McCarthy gives us what probably is the most important question regarding the upcoming presidential election: appointments to the Supreme Court.

      “If Mitt wins the nomination, I will enthusiastically support his
      candidacy. For my friends who have hesitation on that score, I’d just ask you to keep these things in mind:

      1. Justice Scalia just turned 78
      2. Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year
      3. Justice Breyer will be 76 in August
      4. Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago. In addition, Justice Ginsburg is reportedly quite ill.
      5. Justice Stephens has already said he would retire and is just waiting for Obama to be reelected.

      The next president could appoint as many as 5 new Justices over the next four years.

      This election is about much more than the ObamaCare Tax.

      Whomever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come.”

      If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, THINK AGAIN.

      So, for anybody who is thinking of not voting because your favorite Republican didn’t get nominated, or writing in a candidate who can’t win, imagine this:

      SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER “

      • Warrior

        All true.

      • patrice

        Exactly! As a registered independent, I choose my country first and definitely Obama has to go. So Romney is the other choice. I’ve voted for the lesser of two evils several times. With Obama we also have to worry about the Islamic terrorists that Obama caters to. I’d rather deal with a mormon, tho not my first choice. So Mr. Livingston please do not assume we are all stupid but one has to do what one has to do.

      • Jimmy E

        Vigilant, you are absolutely right any judge Obama appoints will be a dissaster to the future of this country and probaly the world. And as much as I like to read the opinons on this site I just don’t understand how others don’t see it this way.

      • boyscout

        Vig, The approval system is what I count on (wishful thinking) and not the advocacy of either O or R, as each would attempt to stack the court in his favor and, neither would choose our favor.

      • Dwight Mann

        While the implications are huge, you still can not vote for a guy that is the result of a corrupt GOP elite.
        Ron Paul in 2012. . .

      • Vester Kester

        If you look at Mitt Romney’s record as governor, you will shed tears. This guy is a crook in the highest order. He was my governor and his records are terrible. That the reason he’s not talking about his period as governor. He is NOT the person he portrays to be, he swings anywhere depending on were the tide is. As a Caucasian, I will prefer Obama to continue in the interest of the black people crying that they are being discriminated. Just let him finish his 8 years. For me, the two candidates are evil, but I will vote for the lesser evil, who, unfortunately, is Obama. Romney will sell this country to the special interest group he is collecting money from now, can’t you all see it. That is more than nominating a Supreme court justice but for the future of this great country. The only difference between Romney and Obama is their political parties, apart from that, no difference. Our country needs prayers at this time. Let us vote wisely and vote for the Negro candidate.

      • MikeR

        I suspect that you are neither Vester or Kester, but instead a not very funny jester

      • Stephen Tareila

        Maybe you forgot Bush appointed Chief Justice Roberts’ vote on Obamacare? The justice appointment argument is all but lost on independents. I’m sorry but I cannot bring myself to vote for either B.O. or Mitt. I live in Connecticut(blue since Reagan) and B.O. will win here by 10+ points but you need to convince independents and disgruntled Democrats in the swing(purple) states of Florida, North Carolina, Virginia (actually just 3 northern counties), Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Plus you have voter fraud. Obama will probably win the election.

      • eddie47d

        The fact that Romney went to Israel and accepted campaign donations with a wink and a promise to help invade Iran should make your hair stand up on edge. Its despicable we have a candidate who is so bold and brazen in taking foreign money and then egging on a war that Israel demands.

      • Gea

        Would you rather have Israel and Jews wiped out from the map of the Earth as the supreme leader Ahmedinijad wants in his pursuit of nuclear bomb? At least Romney is pointing out duplicity of BO who pretends to like Jews and wants their support while financing and cavorting with his Muslim Brothers from Egypt.

        Obama willl lose in a landslide, and then he can go to his Muslim half-brothers in Kenya, his Muslim Brothers in Egypt or to his Saud king, whose subjects committed 9/11. Poor Barak Hussein, he can not help that both his father and his stepfather were Marxist Muslims and when his mother shippede him back to US at the aga of 10, BO grandfather hired a black man as his tutor for his private schoool help, Frank Marshall Davis who just happend to be a member of Hawaian Communist Party. Thus we have a double whammy in the Whitehouse of Communism and Islamism, ideologies that both are not fit for human consumption but which hide under political correctness strive toward just society. Marxism and Islamism are failed ideologies unfit for human consumption as history amply damonstrated and still demonstrates in 57 Muslim majority countries which had become econoimic basket cases sending their hungryt masses to destroy Western societies with the help of likes of BO.

      • RevNowWhileWeCan

        Vigilant,
        I’m usually right there with you but on this one I think you’re a bit off and your commentators following have missed on this one too with the “lesser of two evils” routine. If you think that Romney wouldn’t choose someone like Holder to go to the head of the class then you have been played. Never mind the fact that Romney alienated a WHOLE group of voters of which he absolutely needed to even have a chance in November. When one asks the reasonable question of why he would do that? The answer becomes quite clear. “They” don’t care who’s in because it WILL NOT disrupt the continuance of the status quo. Voting for the lesser of two evils works just a well as voting for the more of two evils. Either way you get evil and that thinking MUST END if we are, and we will, to get our Republic back!

      • http://ursulariches.wordpress.com ursulariches

        Mitt Romney is not the LESSER evil he is another EVIL just slightly different but no better or worse. War against Iran is something no American should support & genocide is facing Americans too. BECAUSE you tolerated war crime & terrorism from US UK UN NATO-you never dealt with the evil in US and it will be hitting you all~are the FEMA camps only for foreigners? Don’t kid yourselves! BACK Ron Paul & be the heroes of a real revolution or fester stagnate & die. Mitt will not beat BO anyway because RP voters & many who hate BO will not vote MR in either & I dont blame them . In UK I refuse to vote for Labour Liberal or Tory anymore.

      • DaveH

        Patrice says — “I’ve voted for the lesser of two evils several times”.
        What has that gotten you/us, Patrice? Just continued Evil and Bigger Government.

      • Sirian

        Vigilant,
        Very good points you’ve brought up. The majority don’t honestly think about this. They may consider it as nothing more than a side issue. Even so, whether they like it or not, it carries significantly more importance than most realize.

      • DEAN

        Vigilant, All true.but people half to remember Obama’s not black he’s an OREO half white,half black. he hates this country, just look at what he’s done since he’s been in office well nothing he can run on, if you read the constitution every thing we fort England on Obummer is doing. GOD BLESS US IF HE GETS BACK IN. he’s making the same lies that he said in 2008.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        What a horrible scenario to contemplate!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If some of the readers are rattled by what Bob is saying about Romney then that must mean that they have their own uncertainty and are profoundly scared that Bob may be right.
        They must have affirmation that their choices are correct and Romney has not given that assurance.

      • Gary D.

        Excellent point, Vigilant. The propect of this president who has vowed to “fundamentally transform” our nation, having the opportunity to appoint vast number of federal judges and probably at least one or two and possibly as you say as many as five Supreme Court justices in the next four years, is indeed a dangerous situation.

      • Enough

        So you are foolish enough to believe that the RINO will appoint conservative judges to the bench ?

        Fat chance. Romney is every bit as liberal as Obama. The only difference is that he doesn’t hate America like Obama does but his policies will destroy us, just as certain as Obama’s will. Just not quite as quick.

      • Iona (Cheryl) W. Kranz

        Don’t you think it’s a little late trying to discredit Romney? I love Ron Paul and his belief system and his son. I think Rand Paul will be a terrific President some day to fulfill “his FATHER’S dream” LOL

        We will always be voting for the lesser of two evils. Perhaps this is Romney’s time to help America become more financially sound and get people back to work. Perhaps America will need Rand Paul’s expertise in the future. Right now we need Romney’s expertise to get us back to prosperity and hopefully military strength.

        So, why don’t we all who love our Constitution get behind him and let him help. Rand Paul will hopefully have his day.

        Thanks for allowing me to respond,
        Iona Cheryl Ware

      • San

        Cheryl,
        A sane argument.
        We have to vote out Obama, and a write in vote will be for Obama.

      • carrobin

        Excellent reason to re-elect Obama. We don’t need a Supreme Court that says corporations are people and might consider overturning Roe vs. Wade. (And Obamacare is the best thing that can happen to this country–except Medicare for All, which would actually cover everyone and save money, but seems beyond the reach of our corporate-controlled politicians.)

      • San

        Obamacare is not about solving the problem of the cost of healthcare. It is about control. The democrats don’t care about cutting costs or making healthcare affordable. Obama is taking control of another sector of the economy. We will be full blown socialists when he get done with us in another 4 years. Or we will be taken over by one world government, because he is making us weak.

      • Gordon

        Vigilant: Obviously we agree. Unfortunately this IS a lesser of two evils situation. Idealism is not electable (polls at 9%), and will cause a “perot presidency”. I have met several who justify their idealist position as being honorable and in their next breath concede defeat by stating that “when Obama gets re-elected, then the ‘armed revolution for a 2nd Republic of America’ can begin. Certainly this nation is in an imminent financial situation which cannot be rectified. So shall we be as the individual debtor who says, “Well I can’t pay my credit cards anyway, so I will get 20 more and max them out too before I go under”?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Vester Kester,”

        FIRST, I WANT TO SAY YOUR USE OF “CAUCASIAN” AND “NEGRO” SEEM TO BE A REFERENCE TO ME. THANKS. THE WORD, “NEGRO” IS SPECIAL TO ME.

        “Vester Kester,” YOU PROVE THE POINT I MADE TO Bob Livingston. CAUCASIANS WILL LET THE KENYAN HAVE HIS EIGHT YEARS.

        THE COMMENTS BY OTHERS THIS MORNING ARE INTERESTING SINCE Rep. Paul IS NOW OUT OF THE RACE. AS A NEGRO MALE, I CONSTANTLY HEAR OTHER NEGROES TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF VOTING. YET, I AM UNABLE TO TELL WHAT Personal Libertarians ARE GOING TO DO. SO, CAUCASIANS DO NOT CARE ABOUT VOTING? YOU SAY AS GOVERNOR, Romney WAS A, “crook.” NEGROES BELIEVE “white folks stick together.” SO, HOW CAN CONVENTION DELEGATES BE “SO OUT-OF-TOUCH” WITH “EVERYDAY” CAUCASIANS WHO THINK Romney IS “MUD?”

      • DaveH

        San says — “Cheryl, A sane argument.
        We have to vote out Obama, and a write in vote will be for Obama.”.
        Einstein’s definition of insanity — Doing the same thing over and over again while hoping for different results this time.

      • DaveH

        Carrobin says — “Excellent reason to re-elect Obama. We don’t need a Supreme Court that says corporations are people”.
        Corporations are people? So if people get together in groups they are no longer allowed to have their rights? No wonder this country is in trouble.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002961352317 David J. Sanchez

        Generally I approve of Bob Livingston and his articles are most of the time right on target concerning most issues, but I do believe that every newspaper and magazine he quotes (especially Mother Jones and the New York Times) are all pro Democrat Party Main Stream Media organizations who believe in welfare/warfare government. I agree that if we do allow this imposter President another 4 years our Nation as we now know it is finished. The Courts and the people who control the agencies that rule this country will stifle any remnant of the Bill of Rights we have left. Sure I would definitely prefer Dr. Ron Paul, but to equate Mitt Romney with Barack (insane) Hussein Obama is totally crazy. At least with the Republicans we have a chance to gravitate and move this Nation back to what it stands for and stop the bankruptcy morally and socially that exists now. Please think about the sources that you quote from Bob Livingston.

      • HeavenHelpUs

        Imagine this… Romney, a supposed conservative, nominates another supposedly conservative justice who isnt conservative (i.e. Roberts)… I honestly dont know when you fools will quit letting the ruling class via the MSM tell you who is electable and who isnt, but the ONLY advantage to Romney is that Civil War might be averted… However, the MSM will then gleefully give “conservatism” credit for our economic meltdown via the bad monetary policy by both sides of the SAME ruling class… Great Depression anyone?… Yep, it’s happened before… Same game, different decade… I’ll end with a quote… “If youre sitting at a poker table, and you dont know who the patsy is, youre the patsy.”

      • Mary

        Yes , and if they are Republican right winger, religious fanatics, with no sense of fairness, we can kiss all our freedoms goodbye. Ladies, you had better invest in one of those long black robes to cover your bodies, be prepared to lose your rights to voting, driving, and to the very private parts of your body. Here come the dark ages – AGAIN.

      • TML

        If I voted for either Obama or Romney, I would never be able to forgive myself. I will vote my conscious. Then as the wars, health care tax, and other status quo ventures shared between the two persist, you can blame yourself for not doing the same.

        Honestly, I don’t even believe such Justices should be appointed by the President… they should be elected offices by the people.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Mary, were you coached before you posted that those nasty Republicans are going to put the women in bhurkas. The clothing designers and stores would be put out of business and China and other manufacturing bases of thread and buttons and dyes, etc., would be fighting tooth and nail for their survival. So you are a blathering idiot.

      • macgyver1948

        @ DaveH….. One vote per heart. The founders feared referring to corporations as people. Consider that if they were, each of them in the “group” you mention, would have a vote as all legal voters and the “group” might eventually obtain a vote too as a corporation or as a “group”. Then the corporations get more votes than we each do and the founders saw the evil in both corporations in general and banks. I bet if Norquist and Koch were around then the Founders would have a contract out on them during the Revolutionary War for treason and betrayal of what America stands for. Romney is just their puppet so he might not get to the nomination stage then.

      • Robert Smith

        Carrbin says: “We don’t need a Supreme Court that says corporations are people…”

        You are so correct! Just think, China can buy a corporation and pour millions and millions in to buy an election in America so it comes out just how they want it.

        And all those who want corpoations to have a say call themselves “patriots” and “Americans.”

        My guess is they just haven’t thought about what the advocacy from the extreme right means as they turn control over to other countries.

        Rob

    • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.lundy.3 Joseph Lundy

      You are the perfect example of why I would encourage African-American to no longer lay down their lives for this country.

    • Chester

      Sir, you are as racist as any white sheet wearing, white hooded KKK member, only you try to disguise it by calling others racist instead. Actually, would say you are a true tribal follower, where anyone who is not of your exact bloodline is an enemy to be run down or done in at every chance. If you weren’t, you would NOT be apologizing to the blacks for the whites who vote for Obama, nor would you be apologizing to your own people for the blacks AND whites who think Obama is a better choice.

    • http://personlliberty.com LyndaLouise

      Mitt Romney and the citizens united decision. If Mitt Romney is elected, he will be President in name only. This is something the republicans should consider. The Tea Party republicans are being supported by the Koch Bros. The Koch Bros. are spending $400,000,000 on the campaign. Paul Ryan has strong ties with the Koch Bros. Why is this not being communicated to the american people? Why is the Citizens United decision by the Supreme Court that gave them all this power being talked about? I have already read blogs from people from around the world that are bragging about how much better their democracy is and wonder why we have abandoned ours. The question is – What does President Kock Bros. want for their investment? This is the question we should be asking.

    • Ron r

      Bob you are so in-American .

    • Winddrinker

      I have to use the same phrase…”Are you serious?”

      Are you saying that this election is only being held to appease blacks..12% of the population (supposedly.)

      People I know are only worried about the fact that they have lost 40% of their wealth over the last three years, there are 23 million out of work, our dollar is basically becoming worthless, wars are about to break out everywhere, the mooslems are on the rampage and want to replace the Constitution with the Koran, and that is just a few of our problems.
      No seems to be worried about what blacks want…even the politicians and the dictator.

      • Deborah

        Even Obama doesn’t care about what blacks want. He panders to whichever side of his half-breed heritage he desires in order to appease them for their votes. He doesn’t care about the poor, elderly, sick or black. He only wants to destroy the rich. He hates America because we are a rich nation. He wants us to be on an even playing field with the rest of the world. That is why he is decreasing our nuclear arsenal while other nations increase theirs. This is suicide! Obama is an absolute LIAR. I think the right-wing conservatives will be destroying this beloved, God-fearing nation if they don’t vote him out. What the h#$& are you thinking Bob Livingston? A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. Get over your extremist ideology and do what is best for America. This is a very important and precarious election. It is not the time to push your agenda. We need to galvanize and push Obama out of office!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Winddrinker”

        SIR, IT IS NICE TO SEE YOUR POST. THANKS.

        “Winddrinker,” I WILL GIVE YOU A FANTASTIC EXAMPLE. HISPANIC-AMERICANS DO NOT MAKE CAUCASIANS FEEL GUILT. NATIVE-AMERICANS AND ASIAN-AMERICANS DO NOT MAKE CAUCASIANS FEEL GUILT.

        BUT – OH, MAN! – WHEN IT COMES TO NEGROES, CAUCASIANS ARE TRIPPING OVER THEMSELVES TO SAY THEY ARE SORRY FOR SLAVERY. THE KENYAN WILL GET HIS EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE MOST CAUCASIANS WANT TO MEET THE “Lord.”

    • Stuart Shepherd

      Mr. Horton- You ARE a racist and it’s disgusting. I hate Obama- because he’s a liar, a phony, a marxist, a racist himself- but not because he’s bi-racial! When you start lumping people together (ANY group) and then apply some type of blanket criticism or aspersion, it is an “ism”. Please stop! You sound perfectly intelligent and even insightful otherwise!

    • ron . r

      Bob Liverston, who are you waiting on the next Strom Thurman, or Barry Goldwater. Dam, where is Lee atwarter when you need him???? And Willie Horton, has your paint come off yet????

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “ron . r,”

        YOU AND I NEED TO MEET “FACE-TO-FACE,” SO I CAN “PUT AN END” TO YOUR FOOLISHNESS. I APOLOGIZED FOR THE STATEMENT I MADE TO YOU A FEW WEEKS AGO; BUT, YOU ARE “PRESSING YOUR LUCK.”

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