I read that Bill wants to send Hillary to the Fat Farm after she returns from all those state dinners in India.

Would like the addy for the militia broadcasting peeps. Anychance? Thnx in advance.

Have you noticed how much weight Hillary has put on? I guess she’s envious of Michael Moore.

Hasn’t Michelle put on some weight too? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

marc – Just out of curiosity, what would constitute proof to you, of anything? A link? From a website with which you, personally, approve?

My point is, no matter what you read, no matter where you read it (or hear it), it comes from someone else’s viewpoint, and is most always second-hand info, anyway. There is no such thing as actual proof. It’s even to the point where we can’t even rely totally on what we see with our own eyes, never mind someone else’s.

As I’ve said before, we live in a virtual reality of perception. I don’t believe that Obama intendes to be replaced, either. One way or another, it looks like he plans to stay indefinitely. And even if the ball is tossed to Romney, no much will change, because he is working for the same NWO corporatists.

The noose is tightening every day for the people of America. If we don’t wake up and see that the whole system is corrupt, and that it matters not who we elect to office unless we cut off the head of the snake… well, the trap is now being sprung. Hold on to your seatbelt.

Thanks for the reply 8kate. Really I was just wondering where tbone got his info on the electoral college. Don`t know much about it. I was`nt chastizing just wanted more info. Pax!

marc – No worries.

The electoral college is composed of committed delegates. Apparently they do legally have the right to vote their conscience, but like all rights, has been misrepresented in order to make people think they don’t have choices.

Anyway, even aside from duress and threats, you can assess the outcome of the election by looking at the committed delegates.

Thank you 8kate:) My father`s familly has been here since the 1620s! We have been rolling w/ the punches since we were told we were now Americans when Maine`s border was drawn.We were on the south side of the St. John`s River in what was then known as Madawasska! We lived on land permitted us by the Malacite tribe! We still have the property in our familly as we did`nt want to sell what really was rightfully the Malacites. Iam a 13th generation American w/ 12 of these generations producing 10 to 15 children a generation! LOL Iam probably related to half of this country and Canada. Anyway I love America and I hope everyone well and prosperous!

I think it was Jefferson who said,”I`ll defend your RIGHT to believe in what you want but that does`nt mean I have to believe in or support it” Probably not exact wording but you get the idea!

Ha, ha, ha, ha! Very funny Jay. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot. Here is something about America seeking God in a time of war. We need to do the same thing these days in this war for our country and our liberties. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=56

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

“It isn’t that Liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

-Ronald Reagan

deerinwater:“Remember never confuse a liberal with the facts!”

Try offering one sometimes and see what you get.

While you might feel as if you’ve had some success in turning “stupid” into genius, sadly, Mr. Crystal, me and my crew of half-wits are living proof that you have failed miserably, as we have mastered the technique of simply avoiding and ignoring what you have to say, while heaping upon you all the vitriol we can muster. Therefore, we have learned that the best offence against the truth, is a protracted refusal to even consider the fact that the problem may in fact be our stupidity, much less acknowledge it. Though slender in understanding, nevertheless, we have learned to maximize our intellectual short-comings, as it should be plain to everyone with a brain, to its fullest extent! You think that you dealing with mental-midgets, Mr. Crystal, well think again, buddy boy! And don’t you dare get me started on Fox, as i swear, i’ll make your life a living hell! Beware, we’re watching you, Mr. Crystal!

Jukebox, here is an idea! Let’s cut off all support for an education system that got us to outer space and to the technology that produced our automobiles and many other modern marvels! Do you still make any programmed sound a wingnut desires for a quarter like a good jukebox would do???

OOOOOOOOOU good one nc. Please check out”the true origins of Barack Obama w/ Director Joel Gilbert on YOU TUBE. New stuff from this past June!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again, nc (no cajones) has missed the point. Another bolo for the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Sorry, Christin, that’s not true.

Vigilant – Do you have some inside info on this? Because I read the same thing Christin said… that the vote count is being outsourced to Spain. In fact, I read it in many different places.

Why? I can only assume that it is because Odimwit has already signed over US sovereignty to the UN, and we are all world citizens now. So they can tally the votes wherever they want, out of the prying eyes of Americans who cast ballots,… some “undisclosed location”.

And, I suppose, it will be illegal to question the outcome.

No accountability. No fairness. No choice.

Christin and Kate8, the Federal Government does not run elections and does not count votes, the states do. That’s one of the few 10th Amendment areas the Feds haven’t totally negated, and you can bet your booty the states would never give that up.

Only four US states and D.C. availed themselves of the services of Scytl in the past to count overseas military and absentee ballots. The system was so penetrable and faulty that they won’t be using the company again this election.

If you have any doubts about who’s counting the vote in your precinct, get in touch with the local elections board.

See http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/scytl.asp

Vigilant,

If as you say… ” Only four US states and D.C. availed themselves of the services of Scytl in the past to count overseas military and absentee ballots. The system was so penetrable and faulty that they won’t be using the company again this election.”

…that speaks volumes about our elections already. The military vote and Absentee Ballots are usually Conservative and Republican.

Who will Keep Count of Our Election Results?

(quote) “The obama administration has sold the rights to process our election results to a private company. That this critical component of a Free Election, the transparency tabulation of votes, will now be handled not by individual precincts, but by a company over which we will have little control. SOE was the election results processing company which handled processing results from over 500 jurisdictions has typically provided prompt reporting of precinct results, HOWEVER, SOE was recently acquired by SCYTL a voting processing company based in SPAIN.
This compromises the process enormously. Instead of producing election results trackable at the precinct level, votes will be transmitted to a central server where they will be counted. The problem is that once the votes are merged it will be impossible to go back and check their integrity at the local level. It is very likely that this is the final step in barack obama’s corruption of the voting process. It has the promise of enabling him and his cohorts to control the outcome of the federal elections with no accountability. On top of that it is one more step to the formation of a global government. One of the aims of george soros whose puppet currently occupy’s the WH.
Who owns SCYTL? There is NOT one American person on the board of directors of this company that controls the outcome of our voting. How could this be permitted? Who did this? Why are the American people in the dark about this?” (unquote)

This is what I know so far… I doubt the gov precincts or local election boards that you suggest we call know ‘did-ly-squat’.

I heard France w/ their newly elected Socialist President will be counting the US votes! P-lease check out “The true origins of Barack Obama w/ Director Joel Gilbert ” on YOUTUBE. New stuff from this past June!!!!!!!!!!

“[p]resident” Obama’s support for illegal aliens can be traced back twenty-five years to the late ‘80s when he was a community agitator with groups such as Chicago’s own UNO.

For decades he trained radical groups like ACORN, et al, where voter fraud has been well documented. As “[p]resident”, Obama’s exertion of executive privilege to suppress Fast And Furious documents leads to a reasonable suspicion that he had knowledge in 2010 that his administration was arming Mexico’s most ruthless drug cartels with thousands of guns, resulting in (so far) hundreds of people dead.

On August 18th, 2011, DHS’ Napolitano announced the end of deportations for illegal aliens who have not committed “serious” crimes—basically, she just erased the U.S. border.

Obama’s department of “Justice” head Holder has tirelessly sued, or been sued by, every state that has even attempted to account for their voters or hold legitimate elections—Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Arizona, Texas—well, we have 50 of them.

On June 19th, 2012, Obama circumvented Congress, the courts, and the people, and illegally granted amnesty by executive fiat to a million illegal aliens. With millions more on the way here.

On June 25th, 2012, in what may well be the most infantile act of retaliation by any administration in history, hours after the Supreme Court ruled that Arizona can’t legally defend its Mexican border if the federal government refuses to do it, the Department of Homeland “Security” said it won’t take illegal aliens caught by Arizona.

And Tuesday, the Obama administration said it was closing nine Border Patrol stations in four states.

Now think back to the DOJ’s dismissal of the already-completed 2008 voter intimidation case against the Black Panthers, and the White House denial that Black Panther leader Malik Shabazz visited the White House. I don’t know but, how many Malik Shabazzes are there?

The above timeline is a pattern of intentional destruction. But to what end? Is it merely to ensure the reelection of a catastrophic “[p]resident’”? If so, then the inevitable destruction of the American entitlement system, infrastructure, education, way of life—will follow Obama into his second term when not even a ruthless socialist media covering for him will be able to deny it’s his fault.

The actual reason for the Obama Destruction may be much more sinister; To leave his successor a country careening toward a financial cliff in an imploding world, where the only solutions are drastic and sure to inflame the populace by way of a compliant media. And in four years he will return to be kinged.

If Obama destroys America, and the media doesn’t report it, does it make a sound?

Interesting assessment, Jay.

Vigilant, I wouldn’t trust snopes to tell the time of day. They are nothing but a liberal couple, funded by George Soros, working from their computers in their living room. They are supporters of Obama and the liberal agenda.

The very idea that there exists anyone, anywhere, who has the final say on what’s true and what’s not is absurd, don’t you think? Yet, many Americans readily accept this illusion…

No. I think you know that we live in a virtual reality, where truth is whatever people think it is. It is not about what’s real, but about how things appear and are perceived. And we are conditioned to believe that we can always turn to the “experts” to learn the “facts” about any question we might have.

Besides, have you ever known liberals to give a rats behind about truth? I don’t think they even comprehend the concept.

Quite a gig, if you can get away with it. And… it seems that they have.

Very good 8Kate. Hey check out “The true origins of Barack Obama” w/ Director Joel Gilbert if you have`nt already. Its new stuff on YOUTUBE.

marc lizotte – Thanks for the link. I watched the video, and now I can’t wait to get the DVD.

I’m also anxiously awaiting Sheriff Arpaio’s press release coming up on the 17th (may God protect him). I’ll bet he has come up with much the same info.

It gets more bizarre every day.

Well said everyone. When you get many patriots on this site,you can have real debate, bu we can’t stop the enemy from coming to this site. Sook Young and I will be praying for Sheriff Joe also Kate 8. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Christin, Kate8 et. al., the fact remains that the Federal Government does not run elections and does not count votes, the states do. The Feds could not possibly have sold counting rights to anyone. You request substrantiation for my denial, but I have yet to see a “smoking gun” that backs up ANY claim that Obama “sold the rights” to an activity the government’s not even authorized to meddle with.

Most voters in the USA will continue to use paper ballots for the 2012 election. The audit trail will still exist for those votes.

Soros has been in no way connected to SCYTL. It’s another conspiracy theory rumor and nothing else. It was also claimed that Pere Valles, the current CEO of SCYTL, contributed heavily to the Obama campaign, another baseless assertion. The burden of proof lays with the accusers here, and they have thus far provided nothing of substance, just bald face assertions.

The problem with sensationalist claims such as these is that they take on a life of their own and are promulgated by those who will come up with any far fetched canard just to get at Obama. With luck, Obama will be kicked out in November, but it will be with a vote that is more or less honest and not subject to wholesale manipulation. I’ll grant that election fraud is probably rampant, but it has been done at local level, not national.

If 2012 Congressional elections, the most important of the two, result in a takeover of the House by Democrats and a status quo in the Senate, then I would say that something’s rotten in Denmark. But that’s not going to happen, mark my words.

Mega ditto there Vigilant. But I hear of one state having a Co. in France couting their votes !

Kate8, snopes receives no funding from anyone, let alone George Soros. Their revenue is generated solely by advertising. Another myth exploded.

As for the operators of snopes, the site produces the following:

“Barbara Mikkelson is a Canadian citizen and as such cannot vote in U.S. elections, register an affiliation with a U.S. political party, or donate to any U.S. political campaign or candidate. David Mikkelson is an American citizen whose participation in U.S. politics has never extended beyond periodically exercising his civic duty at the ballot box. As FactCheck confirmed in April 2009, David is a registered independent who has never donated to, or worked on behalf of, any political campaign or party. The Mikkelsons are wholly apolitical, vastly preferring their quiet scholarly lives in the company of their five cats to any political considerations.”

Vigilant – I appreciate your input, but I don’t know why your info should be any more reliable than other sources I’ve seen.

In case you haven’t noticed, our Laws (across the board) are no longer being adhered to. Our government is rife with traitors.

I still stand by my statement about snopes. There can be no single, all-knowing, source of truth. Except One…The One. And no, I don’t mean Obama.

Fine, Kate8, we’ll talk about it after the election.

DNA,DNSCHMAY, that`s NOT what should SHOCK about this new revelation! Who the heck is this Lewinsky anyways?

Monika Lewinsky, Marc. Bill Clinton’s oher woman. Who could blame him, being married to Hitlery. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

“Monika Lewinsky, Marc. Bill Clinton’s oher woman.”

No Samurai, its ONE of Bill Clintons other women.

Ah, another rambling post by the paid liberal twit nc extremly long on words and extreeemly short on content.

Not to mention the flagrant violation of grammar.

And a propensity to shout.

Well, i suppose obama no choice but to work what he has; high-school dropouts.

I happen to know alot of High School drop outs that have more common sense than our current POTUS. Please check out “The true origins of Barack Obama” w/ Joel Gilbert on YOU TUBE. New stuff from this June!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you Jeremiah Wright. No true patriotwold ask God to damn his own country. Shows how little you know about patriotism.

“We have no governent armed with the power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and relgion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

John Adams

He was right. This must be why those of the 5th column are trying very hard to get rid of it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Where did Obama get his money to attend college? Columbia and Harvard are certainly not cheap. The ask where he got the money to buy a house that cost well over $1M on a $12,000 community organizer’s salary.

Please check out “the true origins of Barack Obama W/ Joel Gilbert on YOU TUBE. New stuff from this June!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for the addy. Hey check out “The ntrue Origins of Barack Obama” w/ Director Joel Gilbert if you have`nt already. New stuff on YOUTUBE.

Thanks Marc. I’ll look up the source you have been talking about. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

The one thing that Ben Crystal will never discuss, along with Bob Livingston and the rest of the crew here … is what should be shouted from the rooftops, and that is how to overturn the socialist applecart here in America. I am talking about the key lynchpin that holds the federal reserve/fiat currency based bankster run power structure in place, that has at its very core an Achilles heel. I am talking about what is the root cause/source of socialism here in America. I am talking about the six ton bull elephant in the living room that you and everybody else including libertarians, so-called conservatives, patriot talk show hosts exposing the NWO are pretending doesn’t exist … yeah, the same bull elephant that is taking a dump on your coffee table, with all the politicians telling you it’s delicious poppy seed strudel, go ahead and take a bite, they insist. Yes, I am discussing socialistic insecurity and its relationship to the income tax, the fiat money system, and Obamacare.

Bottom line … it is the income tax that puts the burden of a fiat money system on the backs of the American worker. It is participation in socialistic insecurity/use of a socialist slavestate number on the job that is the nexus whereby the income tax is fastened to your back. According to the slave enumeration bureau, having and using a socialist slavestate number is 100% voluntary and not required to live OR WORK in the United States. Write them and ask, email or snail mail, ssa dot gov. Are you forced to use an SSN on the job? Most folk are … but not because of any law. THAT IS DUE STRICTLY TO POLICIES OF CORPORATIONS PEOPLE WORK FOR. Therefore, it is the PRIVATE SECTOR that is doing the dirty work of government, forcing people into SSN use. And that is why they can say the income tax is Constitutional … the private sector does everything in its power to FORCE YOU into incurring liability for the income tax for yourself. If we liken the situation to “The Matrix” the IRS is NOT “Agent Smith.” The IRS is merely the “squiddies” or mindless search and destroy robots. Corporate Amerika is “Agent Smith.” And that is the good news … your fight is not against the govt. or any law, it is against private sector businesses, most of which have this policy due to ignorance and fear, altho there are a few bad actors as well. All the workers at a given company getting educated and standing up and insisting on no SSN use ends the problem for that company. And it is a complete sweep … no SSN means no FICA, no payroll tax, no medicare tax, no federal income tax, no state income tax, no local income tax, and no Obamacare mandates/taxes/penalties/liabilities. Fini, caput, bye-bye, bodda bang, bodda bing, bodda boom, end of story, plain and simple.

This is THE issue. Yeah, you can jack your jaws about Obamacare, that gun running thug criminal Holder in the injustice dept., the ongoing wars, the TSAholes, the ever expanding police state, etc. But all that comes down to is talk … talk, talk, and more talk while you continue to be a part of the system, vote for tweedledee or tweedledumber, etc. all the while paying for your own enslavement. Or, you can structure your life such that you can stop using an SSN, cease paying for your own enslavement, and otherwise restore your sovereign status. Ceasing SSN use/ceasing to pay for your own enslavement/dropping out of “the system,” withdrawing your consent to be governed by these b’tards, and restoring your status as a Freeman is really the only vote that counts. The govt. doesn’t care about the rest because the game is rigged. Look at the Ron Paul situation, and everyone who got sucked into donating time, effort, energy, resources, etc. Truely sad. On a practical level, bottom line … it comes down to simply not using a socialist slavestate number anymore.

Pete

Annie, It was accurate…and Pete…”What are you talking about” speak english!

Masondog, you are clueless. Someone needs to give you the game or you are phugged.

The federal reserve system pretty much runs things here. The federal reserve system depends upon the income tax, otherwise the effects of inflation would be rampant. The income tax didn’t apply to the wages of the American worker until a connection was established, and that connection is participation in social security and/or use of a social security number. SSN use is voluntary according to the socal security adminstration. If you are forced to use an SSN on the job, as in IRS form W-4 that the IRS admits in writing on their website is voluntary also, that is due to company policy and not any law. Your participation in social security, considered to be voluntary, incurs for you liability for FICA, payroll tax liability for your employer, medicare tax, federal income tax, state income tax, local income tax, and now the Obamacare mandate or penalty on your taxes. It all ties into use of a social security number, voluntary by law. It doesn’t matter what you think, feel, do, or say, how much of a libertarian/pro freedom individual you think you are … if you use an SSN on the job you are paying for your own enslavement and are a slave. You can vote for anyone you like, it won’t make a difference. Structuring your life to cease SSN use WILL make a difference tho, to you personally and to the system. Google and view for free on youtube “Bursting Bubbles of Government Deception” and also “The Magnificent Deception” both by Robert Arthur Menard. View them in the order listed.

Pete

Pete Sagi,
All the talking heads have either been warned, threatened or scared by what happened to Brietbart. That’s why you don’t hear the Rothschild’s name. That’s why they shove aside the eligibility issue. But that’s OK because there are plenty that are not fooled. It will take a person of standing to face up to them. Someone who does not have family they can threaten. This person will immediately have millions of followers.

Well said Pete and Michael J. You have to excuse certain people as they cannot comprehed the fact that the Federal Reserve is what is in control of our country these days. Even after President Wilson signed it into law, he felt he had betrayed this country.

“For a man cannot serve two masters. For he will love the one and hate the other, or he will cling to the one and despize the other. You cannot serve both God and mamon.”

Jesus Christ

I guess Wilson learned too late and we are still learning. Let’s end the Federal Reserve and get back to going only by the Bible and the Constitution. If we did, we would be the greatest utopia on this earth. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

I agree wicha Annie BUT good luck w/ that. Please check out “The true origins of Barack Obama w/ Director Joel Gilbert . New stuff on YOUTUBE from this past June!!!!!!!!

What part did you find most entertaining? the part where he called a man who has dedicated his LIFE to fighting racism and bigotrey in the name of equality reason and justice a quote ” parasite ” end-quote? the part where he dismissed the ONLY organizations dedicated to worker rights quote ” thugs ” end-quote? or and this is MY favorite part the part where he basicalley calls ANY black activist quote ” cop killers ” end-quote? but maybe i am over-reacting maybe you meant ” entertaining ” as in , its entertaining to see anouther well dressed republican and/or tea partyer CLAIM to understand the problems of the working class ad ther oppressed comrades all-the-while being to LAZY to actualy research ther perfectley legitiment grievences. if THATS what you meant then i could not agree more.

Eric, could you quit ranting? It only makes you look less intelligent. Who was working hard for rights? Jesse Jackson? The man who claims to be a preacher, but had a child with another woman? Didn’t Clinton do those things also, just didn’t have any kids? Let’s se if you can guess this president. He wanted to make his career about peace, but did he?

“No one has done more to put the fear of God into those who would betray their country.”

D. D. Eisenhower

Who was he talking about? How about this one?

“I have taken an oath today in the presence of God and my conscience: To uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. And to that oath, I now add this sacred commitment: I shall consecrate my office, my energies and all the wisdom I can summon, to the cause of peace among nations.”

Who is the president described here? If you are rght, I’ll give you some candy little boy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

I find that when people resort to charecter assanation it is because they cant rationalley de-bunk that persons messege. indescretion or not Rev Jesse Jackson has done more to advance equality which was one of our founding princeibles by-the-way then you ever will. and in responce to your little quiz i dont know or frankley care who you are talking about.plus if my mom found i took candy from a stranger she,d tan my hide.

Ben you should be a stand up comic. I find u both funny and entertaining. But I don’t like the but of your jokes.

First, the president in question was Richard M. Nixon. Second, I could really cre ess about your opinion. Third, eqality means that all men are created equal, because we are equal in the eyes of God. Neeeeed to get your facts straight before you post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

P.S Nixon… really? you,ve resorted to quoting nixon really?

Eric Jones – Jesse Jackson has done more harm to the Black community than most anyone I can think of. I’m a person classified as a “minority” by my government and that’s not something I am proud of. It gives people like me an excuse for failure, a reason to quit, and debases society as a whole.

I just talked to a friend today that lives in Texas… he bought a house in a nice neighborhood, with a community park and swimming pool. That was just before Katrina. After Katrina the welfare rats from Louisiana came to Texas and a number of them settled in his neighborhood. Some returned to Louisiana, but most stayed there and trashed the neighborhoods, increased crimes rates and generally let their properties collapse into disrepair, all while collecting their government entitlement checks.

the result of all this is that my friend’s house is devalued to about 1/2 of it’s original purchase price, there was a murder last week in the swimming pool parking lot by Mexican gang members, theft and home invasions are rampant in his area, and as housing values plummet there, more of the same types are moving in.

The results of this is that he has lost all the equity in his home, and probably will have to sell it for whatever he can get at this point.

It must be very easy for you to say its the new guys fault when in fact your friend through his inaction is just as much to blame. and on behalf of the refugess im sorry they couldnt stop a hurricane. p.s if you cant see the good Rev Jessie Jackson has done then i feel sorry for you.

You mean the good he did his mistress by knocking her up, while his faithful wife stayed home? That kind of good? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

If you have to keep harping on that one indescretion then it must be hes only one. that or your just to stubborn to realize that not everyone has to live up to the samurai ideaoligy.

i find ben,s tape,great,entertaining,funny and true.keep up the good work ben

“….plus if my mom found i took candy from a stranger she,d tan my hide.”

That tells us all we need to know about you eric jones. You are high school or younger still living at home with mom and know NOTHING about the realities of this world.

its called sarcasm genius if you cant tell then maybe its YOU who dont know the realites of the world.

That is where you are wrong! I don’t dislike Obama bin Laden because of his race. I’d vote for Condi or Allen West, but I don’t like him for his policies and his trying to transform this country into a socialist state. He hates America, Michelle hates America, and they both could care less about our Constitution and Christian founding. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

For the 500th time sammy boy obama is no more a socialist then you.

His Obamacare program is socialist and would never be authorized by our founders nor is it authorized under the Constitution as it violates the Commerce Clause. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Obamacare is driven by the market and endorsed by the privitized insurance companeys. who neeeeeeeeeds to get ther facts straight now?

Jesse Jackson also claimed that Martin Luther King died in his arms. We know that is a pure fabrication.

Care to cite a source on that Eric or is this another futile diversionary tactic?

http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/5579/the-truth-about-the-health-care-bill-from0someone-who-actually-read-it/

Read it and learn. Ooops! I keep forgetting that you and your ilk cannot learn. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

A scourse ? no just my commen sence and knowledge of the fact that socialized healthcare would be FREE and EASY to those recieving it and obamacare is niether free nor easy.

Wanna bet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

YOUR ON !!!!! if obamacare isn,t free and easy then you have to stop the cod and countrey b.s however if it is free and easy which would make it socialist like you claim i will become a jehovus witness.

I think it speaks of the truth and as they say, “The truth always hurts.”

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

Abe Lincoln used those words in 1858 to describe a country that was careening toward civil war. Now we’re a house divided again and another civil war is coming, with the 2012 election as its Gettysburg.

Call it America’s coming civil war between the Makers and the Takers.

On one side are those who create wealth, America’s private sector–the very ones targeted by President Obama’s tax hikes announced Monday.

On the other are the public employee unions; left-leaning intelligentsia who see the growth of government as index of progress; and the millions of Americans now dependent on government through a growing network of government transfer payments, from Medicaid and Social Security to college loans and corporate bailouts and handouts (think GM and Solyndra).

Over the past century America’s private sector has been the source of productivity, innovation, creativity, and growth–and gave us the iPhone and iPad. The public sector has been the engine of entitlement, stagnation, and decline — and gave us Detroit and the South Bronx.

The private sector built the strongest economy in the world. It armed the free world in World War Two, and then in the three decades after the war turned America into the most prosperous society history had ever seen. It revived America in the Reagan and Clinton years, and thanks to the Bush tax cuts brought this country back from economic collapse after 9/11.

In those same years a growing public sector, by contrast, turned Europe into a cesspool of debt, stalled economies, and chronic social dysfunction that’s set the streets of Athens — and perhaps other European capitals–on fire.

That’s where we’re headed, too, more rapidly than we like to think.

That public sector–state, local, and federal — now consumes 40% of GDP, compared to 33% just twelve years ago. It’s brought us to the point where 48% of Americans are now on some form of government handout, from 44% when Obama took office–almost a fifth more than during the Reagan years. And too many of them have been programmed to believe they have no future unless the government takes more from the Makers — precisely what Obama promised on Monday.

So we know which side Obama and the Democratic party are on. Like John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry, ObamaCare has been a wakeup call to what’s at stake–just as the turbulent events in Wisconsin showed how far Democrats are willing to go to win.

We’re not Greece yet — or on the brink of Bull Run. But it’s time for Romney and Republicans to make clear which side they’re on — and to make it clear there can’t be government transfer payments, from Medicaid to Social Security, without a strong vibrant private sector to pay for them.

They don’t have to stoop to the Democrats’ tactics. They just have to give our free market, private sector economy the robust defense it deserves.

A country where more Americans go on Social Security disability than get jobs — as happened last month–can’t stand.

Lincoln hoped in 1861 that the “angels of our better nature” would pull us back from catastrophe. He was wrong. Let’s hope in 2012 those angels still hover — and can make a house divided whole once more.

Well said Warrior. Like he also said:

“It is rather for us to be dedicated to the great task remaining before us that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom.”

Abraham Lincoln
Gettysburg Address

If you also look at his Second Inaugural Address, you’ll see that he invokes God’s name multiple times. He knew that we needed His help in the situation then, as we really do now.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=284

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Good reading. Please check out “The true origins of Barack Obama W/ Director Joel Gilbert!!!!!!!!!!

Fear of Whose God?

People pre-tending to be patriots you say? i know where you can find one of those. in the words of mr crystal himself quote ” look in the mirror see that guy? GET THAT GUY ” end-quote. FOR LOGIC AND REASON YOU NEED A FAIR AND OPEN MIND TO BE A TRUE PATRIOT!!!

The one true God, the Judeo-Christian God. Next, knock off the nonsenese Eric. Remember that saying things against Bob, or any member of his staff, could get you probation, suspension, or termnation. Just ask Hflahman, Eddie47d, and others. Logic and reason do play their part in the equation, but it is different then you present it. It is the logic and reasoning that God, not stupid science,gives us. I remember reading ina very old book,”Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor.” and “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Since you make your wacked out scientific beliefs your most important ideology, you’ll certainly be cast into the lake of fire. Go to this site and see how our founders thought about this matter.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=8755

Looks like science, atheism, and agnosticism took a back seat to them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

I would have to some type of coward to be afraid of a lake of fire people like you INVENTED to feel superior to those who would not go along with you beliefs . and if Bob or anyone else thinks i should be punished for exercising my rights given to me by the 1st amedment of the constitution you conservites claim to defend then thats ther problem. and i know you won,t listen but here goes logic and reason are the products of our highley evolved brains.

Our rights are given to us by God, as is God-given rights and not the Constitution. Here you keep saying there is no God, but then you turn around and claim the rights he, not the Constitution, gave us all. Sound hypocritical to me. If there is no God, then the Bill of Rights would cease to exist. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Our rights are won through millitant struggle they are not handed to you by some omnipotent figure. by giving your god the credit you are belittleing ther sacrifice not very patriotic if you ask me.

Eric – You speak like that because you have no understanding of who God is. It’s okay…He gets it. But it is His Spirit within each of us which inspires us to action. The men and women who have fought for liberty most often prayed to Divine Providence for the strength, courage and guidance to do what had to be done, including sacrificing their very lives. “He who seeks to save his own life shall lose it; but he who loses his life for My Sake shall save it”.

It’s sad that so many have been led to believe in nothing but physical/material existence, and believe themselves to be separate from the rest of Life. This has been by design, because men without strength of spirit are easily controlled and enslaved. It is within Divine Spirit that lies the spirit of liberty, sovereignty and Love of all Life.

If they prayed thats ther buesness but they didnt need to as the strengh and courage you spoke of lied withen them as it does us all.you dont needa diety to give rights all you need is the will to act.

What kind of nonsense is that? The power is within us? The Holy Spirit is within us, God, Jesus, etc., but we have no power of our own, for all things are only possible through God. Here is something from Virginia in 1778 that tells about how people thought back then. Google the Virginia Declaration of Rights, Section 16. You’ll be surprised. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Yes your holyness the power is within the power of your fighting spirit which is strenghend not by one god or anouther but by YOUR dedication to the cause by your willignes to sacrifice everything even your soul to obtain your goal. i would think a TRUE SAMURAI would know that. p.s. for the record you are reading right the liberal does in fact belive in a soul.

Kate8,

Absolutely well said, Kate 8, well said.

Haven’t heard or seen you post for a while… been busy myself. Hope all has gone well with you and your daughter in your neck of the woods.

You still fending off the Smart meter police?

Christin – Good to hear from you. I come here less often because I just can’t abide the Leftist harrassment. It’s all phoney, and a waste of time.

I do miss many of you all, though.

Yep, I have held off the smartmeters. Because of all the protest, we were finally given an opt-out, but at a price. We have to now pay more for having nothing done. Some of it is ostensibly for paying the meter readers, but that was already figured in to the rates, so that amounts to another rate increase, as well.

Hope all is well with you, and Godspeed.

“God who gave us life, gave us liberty.”

Thomas Jefferson

Here is something else for your little lib mind to look at Eric.

http://www.americanvision.org/6039/1776-providence-perseverance/

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.
We owe God everything and owe you nothing.

Your MOTHER gives you life and you take liberty for yourself. why are you so afraid of your own power?

Such a less intelligent comment is not worthy of my response. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

I cant help but get the feeling that was samurai code for ” no rational answer availible”

P.S read the link George Washington gave god cedit for the hard fought victories of himself and his men. your point?just because you and he beleve in the same deiety does not prove anything. however beneth all the god talk they did manege to find the true determening facter perserveriance.

It takes a lot more than perseverance to win a battle. Something you will never know about, you coward.

“And whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World (GOD) to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectfully represent in Congress, to approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual union.”

Articles of Confederation

They, our founders, even said our union was done with the pleasing of God. Looks like you and your ilk loose again. Here is another source for you to look at:

http://www.americasfoundingfathers.com/index.php/the-first-charter-of virginia-1606

You’ll see that they write this charter, by the Grace of God. They also mention that this could only be done for Christian Kings, Princes, and States. Neeeeed to study more if you want to beat the Samurai.

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Of course they would say you have to be a crishten king they were crishten!!! but you are right about one thing it certainley does take more then persaveriance to win it takes intelligence,instict.moral accedaceny,freedom to operate without the ruler interfering,and a copy of the art of war, p.s. how am i a coward when YOU dont even have the guts to use your actual name.

You also forgot Washington’s daily praying to the Almighty. If you don’t have God on your side, you can never accomplish anything. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

Vladimir Lenin was an athiest therefore by your logic would NOT have ” the almighty” on his side CZAR Nicholes the 2nd was a devout crishten and according to you should have succeded because of his faith. how then if ” you cant achieve anything without the almighty on your side ” how was it that the ATHIEST bolshieviks was able to defeat the crishten
” white ” armies?

The same way that the muslims were able to conquer the Byzantine Empire, by them falling away from their faith in God. Read Revelation, chapters 2-3 for the answers. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

And i supose better moral,weapons,armer.tactics,and popular support had NOTHING to do with it. you realley don,t get warfare do you?

No kidding. Obama’s never had to work a day in is life. Everything was handed to him, and his sense of entitlement is monumental.

His life has been completely funded, he was given “diplomas” and “degrees” just to make him appear legit without having earned them, and he was “placed” in the political arena even though he was completely unknown. We have a kindergartener in the WH, wielding far more power than he should have. In fact, more than he DOES have, but no one stands up to him.

He is the perfect spoiled, arrogant, bullying Leftist, with plenty of psychological issues to make him really angry with the world. Or, maybe just with America… And he has absolutely no qualms about offing anyone who rubs him the wrong way… the body count still continues to mount.

I personally would like to see proof of where Obama got the money to attend Columbia and Harvard and buy a house valued at over $1 million on a $12,000 community organizer’s salary…..

Nadia, nicevo neznajes a mnogo gavoris