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‘The Thing’ That Scares Romney And Obama

May 23, 2012 by  

‘The Thing’ That Scares Romney And Obama
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The economic crisis is an issue Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are too scared to touch.

“I supposed you’d all feel better if someone else was in charge.” — Donald Moffat as Garry in “The Thing”

Few things have scared the wits out of me more than seeing the movie “The Thing” 30 years ago. With just six months to go until the election, both President Barack Obama and Republican front-runner Mitt Romney seem to have their own “Thing” that scares them: the economy. Neither candidate has said how he would deal with what could be the hardest challenge America has faced since World War II.

One of these two men will have to lead the Nation for the upcoming four years. We know where they stand on gay marriage, gays in the military or, in Obama’s case, having a gay old time with Hollywood friends.

Supporters of both candidates have weighed in on other issues such as extending low interest rates on student loans, who bullied whom in high school and who had a tougher time growing up.

Is gay marriage important? That depends. For some people it must be, because so many people have weighed in on it. But I have a hunch that those same people won’t really give a rat’s behind about gay marriage if the economy implodes.

If millions of people lose their jobs and cannot feed their children, who among us will even care about gay marriage as an issue?

My mother used to say: “Everyone is principled until the wolf comes knocking at the door.” Having survived the Great Depression, my parents knew all about the wolf. More than anything else, it shaped who they were. I will never forget how my dad used to smoke his cigarettes right down to the filter even after he became successful. There was always a part of him and my mother that remembered how hard it was to put food on the table and pay the rent.

Most of us don’t have a memory of really tough times. And not one in 100 would even believe that times could be that tough again. Yet in many ways the world’s economy is hanging by a thread, and we might be facing something even worse than the Dirty Thirties.

I believe the President’s and Romney’s advisers have told them how bad this “Thing” can get, and that is why neither candidate has a clue as to how to handle this economic crisis. Both Obama and Romney seem worried that anything too negative could start a panic in the investment markets that one of them will have to deal with as President. This explains why we have witnessed the stupidest Presidential campaign in living memory.

If you think economic collapse can’t happen, you should start paying attention to the warning signs.

It’s Alive!

Four years ago, the financial meltdown that almost turned into a depression began at the doorstep of Lehman Brothers CEO Richard Fuld Jr.

That first domino fell hard, and Fuld could not believe his firm would not be rescued by the Federal government. But it wasn’t. Not until the autumn of 2008 did Congress approve the Troubled Asset Relief Program, which allowed the U.S. Department of the Treasury to purchase up to $700 billion of “troubled assets.”

The acclaimed book Too Big To Fail by Andrew Ross Sorkin explains why Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke believed that without a bailout the Nation was headed for an economic crisis worse than the Great Depression.

It was the largest Federal government economic intervention since the Civil War. There was one huge problem with the solution: The government gave banks hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer money but did not require they lend it out or rein in salaries and bonuses. In other words, they gave the banks a clean slate to start all over again. And banks like JPMorgan Chase & Co. have done it in spades.

What Would Harry Truman Say?

This month, JPMorgan Chase announced it made a bad bet that resulted in a $2 billion loss. CEO Jamie Dimon said he was sorry — so sorry, in fact, that he forced Chief Investment Officer Ina Drew to resign. Dimon believes the buck stops with Drew, even though he is at the forefront of what is turning into the second banking crisis in four years.

Dimon even apologized to shareholders, but he isn’t sorry enough to take a cut on his $23 million pay package.

One thing I have learned over the past 30 years is that if one big bank is taking on risk, so are all the others. That was the case in the 1980s with the titanic amount of bad Latin American debt, and it was certainly the case five years ago with the trillions of dollars in bad bets the banks made on derivatives.

Right now, the mainstream media are underplaying the JPMorgan Chase problem. That’s exactly what they did four years ago when Lehman Brothers’ ugly losses were coming to light.

We may soon see a problem far too big to ignore — a problem that can again take down the financial markets and the economy with it.

The Federal government has already shot its ammo. Interest rates charged by the Federal Reserve to banks are close to zero, and the bond market cannot stomach further credit injections into the financial system. And nobody, especially the Presidential candidates, even wants to talk about it.

Who will handle this monster? It will be either a former community organizer or a venture capitalist. We are in a lot of trouble.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Louis Lemieux

    You create a more fulfilling life by giving attention to the good things, not the bad things; by celebrating the good stuff, not whining about the bad stuff; by working on things that you love, not doing the things that you hate like many are doing posting here!

    Ideals are good but don’t let them stop you from living in the present. They are meant to inspire you and give you a direction to move toward so that you can maximize your present moment (not to take you away from living in it).

    • Karolyn

      Amen!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      If i can get on Oprah,
      i’ll be the next Deepak Chopra!

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    The Economy is a simple thing to get going, just get rid of 40 Million Illegal’s and that will open 12-14 Million jobs to unemployed Americans saving us an additional $500 Billion a year and save tens of thousands of Americans Lives from Murder, Drunk Driving and Disease let alone rape beatings property damage and more caused by Illegal’s. We then put Ron Paulo in as President and reduce spending by $1 Trillion dollars first year and balance the budget in three years unlike Romney 7 years maybe and Obamination, NEVER. Get rid of the Federal Reserve and make Government Smaller get rid of 5 Government agencies and repeal the three bills that Congress and Obamination passed taking our 1st and 5th Amendment rights away. Ron Paul is the ONLY Choice or Romney Big Business and Big Government and Amnesty for Illegal’s or Obamination Sunni Muslim Communist Illegal Kenyan Born Half Breed.

    • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

      Viet Nam Vet 67-68 ,

      You are a ignorant bigot.

      • T i m

        Coal Miner , Why do you call people names , when you are wrong . My name is Tim . Even though VIET NAM Vet may have been a bit sarcastic …..HE IS RIGHT ON . THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . ALso , if you live on welfare , and do not deserve it , you are part of the problem with the economy . Would you call the man / woman an ignorant bigot , if you stand face to face . Your Moniker suggest you are a HARD WORKER . ARE YOU ? All my past generation of family is all VETERANS . Same as I am . Have you been there . I KNOW WHAT I AM FIGHTING FOR . DO YOU . ….there is a simple solution to AMERICAN economy . ALL OF CONGRESS KNOWS IT . ….RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT . Tim

      • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

        Tim,
        That wasn’t being sarcastic,that was bigotry pure and simple.Viet Nam Vet 67-68 ought to be a shame of himself , my half brother died in the Viet Nam war fighting for human rights and dignity,calling a man a half breed is disgusting and inappropriate.You might as well call the president the ( N) word.If you don’t like the man vote him out,but show a little respect for all men,regardless of race, color, or creed..Bigotry we don’t need.Have a nice day.

      • T i m

        My name is Tim I AM NOT going to debate you coal miner . I AM A VETERAN . ….IF YOU HAVE NEVER SERVED IN MILITARY , you do not have an opinion . ALL VETERANS HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LIFE CHANGING EDUCATION . i told Viet Nam Vet . THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . You had to bring name calling and hatred into it . I AM DONE WITH YOU . I pray GOD protect you from satan . RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT .

    • Rafael

      I doubt you can understand, but watch and learn this anyway.

      http://youtu.be/ezmzE8LYi8k

    • http://yahoo catsueme

      you’re slightly off the mark. it want help to eliminate the illigals because the people here are too used to getting free money and they want work to get it. Just look at Alabama when they ran off the illigals. the growers tried to hire americans but found out that 99% of them never showed up for the second day or left after lunch. the americans didn’t have the mental toughness to handle a physical job. this is our problem we have so much given to us that we are no longer survivors. when you have iphones in every ear and mp3 players for everyone in the family, plus two or more tvs, plus two or more cars then the govn. says they need help and supplies them with free money this is what we get. Families making $60.000 get their children free lunch in school….ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

      • http://yahoo catsueme

        sorry want should have been won’t.LOL

    • Karolyn

      I guess you missed the link I posted last week about the lack of pickers due to less and less Maxicans coming here and how the growers cannot find help from amongst the population. Americans are too good to do the jobs Mexicans do!

      • eddie47d

        That has been proven in Alabama and in Kansas and probably other places as well. Businesses are begging Mexicans to stay and work. Sending them all back would create more chaos in our economy and especially with food supplies. Conservatives never say what they will do after they pull out their dragnet. Will they round up unemployed Americans send them to FEMA camps and then disperse them to the fields. How will they handle the business community who can’t afford higher wages that Americans demand? How will they handle the possible doubling of food prices? I want answers not cheap rhetoric about how much they hate illegals.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear eddie47d,

        Will you ever tire of making unfounded statements?

        You write: “That has been proven in Alabama and in Kansas and probably other places as well. Businesses are begging Mexicans to stay and work.” I can’t speak for Kansas, as I don’t live there, but I live in Alabama and I can tell you that no one (save those who support slave labor) are begging illegals to stay and work. Because so many have left our (faux, but official) unemployment rate is 1 percent below the national average.

        You write: “Will they round up unemployed Americans send them to FEMA camps and then disperse them to the fields.” They’ll only let slobbering Obama/Democrat sycophants like you out, but that won’t get any crops harvested. You’ll all be sitting around waiting on someone to drop bread in your laps.

        The rest of your comment contains too much ignorance to respond to. Just reading it almost made my head explode.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        eddie47d just lies and makes up crap! He’s a paid shill and not a very good one either!

      • T i m

        Please do not give me your personal opinion , if you are reading some one elses opinion . Have you been to the UN EMPLOYMENT LINE . THERE ARE 2 OF THEM . One is GOVERNMENT , other is black market un employment . This is where contractors hire people off the street , PAY CASH AT THE END OF THE DAY . General public usually never sees the black market UN EMPLOYMENT . Go to any given part of the city , some parking lots are running over with illegals , between 3 a m and 6 a m , people waiting for a days work . Men , WOMEN , children . The government un employment line operates 9 to five . ….HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE UN EMPLOYMENT LINE RECENTLY …. There are 2 of them . t i m

      • T i m

        Karolyn , I do not care where your link came from , except from Mr. Livingston . You are so wrong . Have you been to the unemployment line recently . THERE ARE 2 of them . One is government , the other is black market , contractors hiring people off the street , paid cash at the end of the day . you can find black market labor , at most any large shopping parking lot , between 3 a m and 6 a m , usually around 2 or 3 hundred people waiting for cash paid work for the day . MEN , WOMEN AND CHILDREN . Contractors do not care about documentation . PLEASE STAND IN THE BLACK MARKET UN EMPLOYMENT LINE BEFORE YOU GIVE YOUR OPINION . My name is T i m

  • Ron b

    It seems that most of us are on the very same page here. In that we are going down the rat hole in the fast lane…like many have said, keep your eye on Greece & others becouse we are not far behind. Good luck & may god bless you in the coming months and years..becouse it’s going to get UGLY!’

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Agreed! GOD bless you too, Ron b!

  • Louis Lemieux

    The Senate passed the $700 billion bank bailout bill on October 3 2008. Was the taxpayer really out $700 billion? No, since Congress only authorized $350 billion to be lent out in 2008. The other $350 billion was saved for the new President when he took office in 2009. Obama never used the TARP funds to further bail out banks.By 2012, banks had repaid $292 billion of TARP funds, leaving only $120 billion still outstanding. These funds were used for the HARP program, to help homeowners facing foreclosure.

    • http://yahoo catsueme

      well pray tell; where is all this repaid money? and why did the demos.not spend all the money instead of delaying most for election year and for Big O to give to his friends so they could return that same money for his campain efforts. HUH

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Louis Lemieux,

      Here is what really happened with that money. http://personalliberty.com/2012/04/20/federal-reserve-corruption-coming-to-light/

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • JBandinelli

    History tells us that another 4 years of Obama means more than doubling the U.S. debt. Not what I was HOPING for, and not the type of CHANGE I signed up for! Someone asked what is the breaking point, what’s that US debt dollar amount? I think it is another 2, 3 or 4 years of Obama, I think we can trust history on this one! The government fixers have been manipulating the markets, and therefore Wall Street, for decades, fixing this and fixing that, always a fix for what has already happened or long ago past. We have a bunch of government incompetent fixers who couldn’t change a tire on their car, or screw in a light bulb if their life depended on it. Who gave these idiots the authority to create thousands of rules and regulations governing every aspect of our American FREE market? Looked at it another way, why has the fixers not once but in a fix to control their own spending. Why is the government fixer’s debt sitting at 16.2 Trillion dollars…. Who are these guy’s?

    • nc

      JBand, when the people elected Regan did they KNOW that our national would almost TRIPLE especially since we were in no major wars and the economy had just taken on a record number of jobs in the preceeding four years!TRIPLE THE NATIONAL DEBT OF ALL 39 PRECEEDING PRESIDENTS??? A RECORD IN DEBT CREATION AT THAT TIME!!
      When the people elected bush II did they know that he would also set a record for debt accumulation by doubling our national debt. We were not at war and most economist were saying that our economy was the strongest we had ever had IF WE WOULD JUST LEAVE IT IT ALONE! bush was not smart enough to do that!!

      AmericanS knew what was happening to our economy in 2008! WE WERE AT WAR AND OUR ECONOMY WAS SLIPPING FAST!! If Americans hadn’t felt that things were getting worse in 2008 John McCain would be President today,not Obama! Good chance that the Dow would not have climbed back from 6547 to 12,500 BECAUSE THE STOCK MARKET LOVES THE DEMOCRATS! SEE “BULLS,BEARS, DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS”

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I’m not worried about the next four years. I’m worried about the next year. I think the collapse has already started. The government just doesn’t want us to know about it. China, Russia, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, South Africa, Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea, Columbia, Japan, India, Iran, the United Arab Emirates, and the monetary authority of Hong Kong are already swapping or trading in currencies other than the dollar. The International Monetary Bank is calling for an international monetary unit other than the dollar. If that doesn’t scare you, nothing will. You will not hear this news on the TV. You’ve got to do a little research to find out what’s really going on.

      • moonbeam

        Agree with you there, Nancy. And this is part of the problem. Most will not do they’re own research. Yes, I researched the big O and it is inconceivable the treasonous activities committed by this person that go unpunished.

      • nc

        Nancy ,hang in there and you might get your total USA collapse that you consvervatives want so dearly so you and say I told You so! But what happens if this great country does nor fail?? Are you going to apologize to Obama for keepitm it from sliding furth dowm hill that i was under bush! H*ll no you won’t apopolgizw because you peple don’t have the guts!!

        What makes it so difficult for you people to admit that the bush administration was not that successful in it’s attempt to provide a stronger economy than Clinton! In fact it was a very weak attempt! What makes it so difficult for you people to MAN UP AND accept you part in the ‘PROBLEM” AND TO SAY” WE HAVE APROBLEM AND WE WILL HELP CORRECT IT? INSTEAD WE SEE A PARTY OF NO IN THE rEPUBLICANS BEING CHEERED ON BY What EVER YOU OTHERS WHO DO NOT LIKE oBAMA CALL YOURSELF> EVERY TIME WE HIT A NERVE YOU PEOPLE CHANGE COATS AND CALL YOURSELVES SOMETHING ELSE! That’s smart because it is hard to hit a moving target!! But it is also gutless!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        nc, you’re just trolling around looking for someone to insult. You picked the wrong person! If you followed my comments at all, you’d know that I’m NO fan of bush! republicans-democrats:NO DIFFERENCE! They’re all a sham! They all work for the same people who want to destroy our country and turn us to socialism! Obviously you are one of them! Or you are just stupid and work or them! obummer will never save this country! I will never respect him! He is evil! And don’t automatically label me a racist, either! I know your tricks! My opinion of him has noting to do with race. He and the congress, the senate and the supreme court are tearing apart the constitution and taking away our rights! Our government has been infiltrated just as you and eddie have infiltrated this board! Time for you to move on. You’ve been outed!

  • Kirk

    If I were evil, how would I do it? I would skip all these earthly folks and go striaght to the “Great Deceiver”, Satan. If you are afraid of Obama, wait till the Devil has you.
    For one, you must be able to trick your opponent kind of like the Federal Reserve is doing to us now.
    Second, you must put into office an army of your followers who will remain loyal to you and reward them and protect them from the rightous.
    Third, you must remove anything that is from Above and keep them in darkness and allow them the rewards of doing wrong. Russia did more to keep bibles out because the word of God gave people Hope. When a man fights for rightousness, Satan can’t help those who the good man is after.
    Forth, you must control the media, the schools and the health care. “How do you know it is true, I read it in the tabloids”!
    Fifth, you must brake the family and take and raise their children as to make them believe their parents were evil, and by doing so you will cause the parents to use all there funds to win their now brainwashed or braindead kids back.
    There are only two things in this world when you sum it all up, “Good and Evil”, you are either for Christ, or against him. So, if we use this to identify people, God will help you see the truth. One prophet in the bible spoke more about money more than any other, Jesus. He wants the riches of the world for you.
    Ron Paul is a man and a very blessed man at that. He puts his pants on just like you and me, but he is a God like man in the fact that he knows about history and how we are bound to repeat if, if we don’t learn from it. So far, the only thing I disagree with him on, is his keeping of Sunday worship and not the Sabbath as God commanded .

    • Scott in SC

      Sounds like Paul harvey’s commentary, “If I Were the Devil”.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Az0okaHig

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Exactly, Scott! And to think that Paul Harvey spoke those words so many years ago. It show that some people were onto their agenda way back then! I only wish we had more like him!

  • Dave S

    Your statement “Neither candidate has said how he would deal with what could be the hardest challenge America has faced since World War II, ” is inaccurate. President Obama has made clear his desire to follow the tried and true method of boosting the economy, put people back to work. He saved a million jobs in the auto industry, created more with the stimulus bill, and tried three times to get another jobs bill past the obstructionist Republican 112th congress.

    Mr. Romney’s plan for fixing the economy is to cut taxes for the wealthy even further. When Reagan did this it turned millionaires into billionaires while hurting most of the rest of us. Europe’s fascination with austerity budgets has led to continuing decline while ours has shown slow but definite improvement.

    It is pretty obvious to me which of them is likely to help 99% of us.

    • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

      Dave S.
      You are right,very good.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Dave S, obummer hasn’t SAVED any jobs! He’s just stolen money from the rest of us to pay for them! In the meantime the corporate bigwigs and the bankers continue to rake in the money, on our dime! He has spent us into a hole that we can NEVER get out of! Don’t you get it??? The borrowing and the money printing is coming to an end! The other countries are abandoning the dollar! It won’t be worth the paper it’s printed on! And lest you believe that anything has gotten better, keep in mind that the government has just changed the way they calculate inflation and unemployment! Nothing has gotten better. There are millions of the unemployed who are simply no longer counted! The method of calculating inflation has changed so that they can lie and say things are improving. You buy food and gas. You KNOW that inflation is higher than 4%, you just don’t want to admit it to yourself! You think obummer is going to help the 99%? He’s going to help us right into FEMA camps! Read the laws and executive orders he’s been signing into effect. What do you think those are for? Don’t be fooled! He is not helping us! He is trying to turn our country over to socialism. Now, in case you might wish to argue that the republicans are no better, I AGREE! There is an agenda that is being sought by people who have infiltrated BOTH parties. Their goal is to destroy our country and then take it over and RULE us. Time is short. Get ready! Prepare! Pray!

      • THG 1956

        Nancy …You said it and said it correctly , I can’t understand for the life of me why that is so hard to see by so many .

      • T i m

        There is a simple solution to AMERICAN economy . Rick Perry said it . RON PAUL WANTS TO DO IT . …..GET AMERICA OUT OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT . ROMNEY IS GOING TO CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL . …..Ron Paul for president .

      • Daveh234

        Nancy just spouts from limited sources and really doesn’t know much more.
        It’s more crap as I like to call it.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Dave234, talk about crap! You make empty accusations based upon NOTHING!

      • DaveH

        Enlighten us with some facts, Dave234. We will wait breathlessly.

      • T i m

        EVERY ONE MUST STOP BEING BRAINWASHED BY THE GOVERNMENT / MEDIA LIES . My name is T i m . Please hear me. and prove all this yourself . THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . YOU ARE WEARING IT . YOU ARE PROBABLY DRIVING ONE . Your cell phone and P C are made in CHINA . Gas price at the pump should be around 5 0 cents per gallon , AFTER YOU TAKE ALL THE TAXES OUT OF IT , HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRODUCT. .AMERICA has had the technology for decades to get 5 0 to 7 5 miles from a gallon of gas . Gas mileage is NOT IN THE ENGINE . There was no oil shortage in the 7 0 ‘s . cURRENT REASON FOR GAS PRICE AT THE PUMP , GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SELL THE HYBRID TECHNOLOGY . MAKE THE PRICE OF GAS UN AFFORDABLE , FORCE THE LABOR FORCE TO GO BUY A NEW CAR . …AALL cost of living is set by the DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE . ….SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT BROKE . GET WELFARE OUT OF IT , FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO WORK . All the rest are crooks . There should be no housing forclosure problem . I LOST MY HOUSE BECAUSE I LOST MY JOB . I was paying my bills till I lost my job . AMERICAN ECONOMY HAS BEEN ORCHESTRATED TO KEEP THE PEOPLE DEPENDANT ON GOVERNMENT . THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO STOP IT . ALL POLITICS IS THE SAME . SCREAM TO ALL THE POLITICIANS IN YOUR STATE , IT IS TIME TO RETIRE . ……….RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT .

    • DaveH

      Non-farm employment in January 2009 (Obama takes office) — 133561 million.
      Non-farm employment in February 2012 (latest actual figures) — 132720 million.
      Looks like a 841,000 loss to me. Am I missing something, Dave S?

      • Dave S

        Yes you are missing something, DaveH. When Obama took office on January 20, 2009 the economy was still in free fall. The Stimulus bill was signed into law on Ferbuary 17th 2009 and almost immediately the free fall slowed and started turning around. The recovery has been much slower than the collapse but in March 2009, the first month after the stimulus was signed, US non-farm employment was 132.04M. By Feb 2012 it was up to 132.72, a gain of 680,000 jobs. And by April it was up to 132.99, a gain of almost a million jobs, and it is still climbing.

        Go take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESFVnZZegXs and tell me the stimulus bill did nothing.

      • cbond01

        MORE PROPAGANDA.

      • Dave S

        Not really. Propaganda consists of statements DESIGNED to bypass the brain and go directly to the gut. Both sides use it but the right is better at it. When I ask you to look at facts and figures and think about them it is not propaganda.

        If you can show that my figures are wrong please do so.

        Dave H wanted to judge Obama’s stimulus plan by comparing the present to numbers from Jan 2010, before the stimulus bill was passed. I say it is fairer to compare today to the first month after the bill was passed. If you want to disagree with me please explain why.

  • Barbara

    I don’t know much about politics except what I read, but I do know that we need a president who believes in America, The Constitution, freedoms of religion, speech, enterprise, and what this country was built on. And who is not ashamed of our American Flag.
    And that is NOT Obama.

    • nc

      Barbara, it’s as much about WHERE you read and listen as WHAT you read and hear. Who told you that Obama does not love our flag or our country! Who told you that Obama is not a Christian? The same people?? Have you tried several other sources for imformation about our President or do you frequent the same “source” everytime?
      Who tells you what the Constitution “means”? In the land of freedom that we all cherish does not everyone have the right to their own opinion?
      Have you ever been to a library that has the US Supreme Court decisions and seen the many, many, many volumes of cases where our greatest legal minds have disagreed over the years as to what portions of OUR Constitution actually mean???? CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY DISAGREEING AMONG THEMSELVES AS WELL AS MODERATES AND lIBERALS!! So it is not always CLEAR what the Constitution means and your SOURCE may not be telling you the truth!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        nc, THE CONSTITUTION MEANS WHAT IT SAYS!!! There are those who want to twist it around and reinterpret what it says. Those people have an agenda. I recognize that they are on both sides of the political spectrum so you don’t have to tell me that. But it all comes down to one thing, IT MEANS WHAT IT SAYS!

      • moonbeam

        nc poses the $60,000 question: “Who told you that Obama does not love our flag or our country!”

        For those who have eyes to see, it’s right here with his back to our flag refusing to salute it.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o

        “Who told you that Obama is not a Christian?” Good grief, nc are you without sight and void of hearing? If he is a Christian, as he lyingly professes, then I’m Mark Zuckerburg of the over valuated and failing Facebook IPO stock.

        “Who tells you what the Constitution “means”?” Have you not read it for yourself? Maybe the brown wipe stains of defecation from the asses of presidents past and present make it virtually unreadable?

        So now I throw the ball back into your court…where do YOU get your information????? Wake up, nc. You’re snoring.

      • Vicki

        NC writes
        ———————————
        Who told you that Obama does not love our flag or our country!
        ———————————
        Obama did. Multiple times. In word and deed.

        Here are some of the deeds
        http://personalliberty.com/2012/05/23/if-i-wanted-america-to-fail/

      • DaveH

        Has it occurred to you, NC, that the Supreme Court is a part of the Federal Government? You know — like the Fox watching the Hen House?
        Has it occurred to you to actually read the Constitution and see what is says? Or to read the Federalist Papers to get an idea of what the creators of the Constitution intended?
        Or to read the actual minutes of the Constitutional Convention to see what the framers had in mind?
        The actual Constitution (it’s written in plain English):
        https://www.cato.org/constitution/constitution_en.html

      • DaveH
      • DaveH

        The minutes of the Constitutional Convention:
        http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/debcont.asp

  • http://none Michael Matthews

    You Ron Paul supporters are delusional. I like him, but he has no chance of winning the presidency and you’ll just waste your votes.

    • randall

      i agree, ron paul will not win, only global bankers canidates will win, follow the money, romney and obummer are supported by the same folks. change will not happen thru the bankrupt instituions, govt, hospitals, schools, religons. these are the institutions that the current money folks use to shape our reality and control us. become self-relient, grow food, harvest weeds, etc

      • http://yahoo catsueme

        yes you’re righ,t but Ron Paul has improved his standing each time he runs. perhaps we are not ready for him now but by his running now we might be ready to accept his sonin the next go around. that is if theres anything left for us to vote about.

    • Steve E

      The real delusional people are the one’s that selected a RINO to run against Obama. They are delusional because they always pick the same kind of politician that does not adhere to the Constitution, and expect different results. Now that’s delusional.

      • T i m

        The BUSH family has endorsed Romney . ALL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS EXPECTED TO FOLLOW THAT . Bush Sr said last fall , Romney will be the nominee . ALL THE GOP IS EXPECTED TO FALL IN LINE WITH THAT . ……………DR RON PAUL DOES NOT FOLLOW IT , IS BIG REASON MEDIA DOES NOT GIVE HIM ANY AIR TIME . The GOP does not want to loose a paycheck .

      • upaces88

        Sorry this is in the wrong Place….
        @ Tim…..OBAMA WILL BEAT NO ONE….WITHOUT SEVERE VOTER FRAUD… and there will be. He has No intention of leaving the WH.

      • cbond01

        100% correct.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      If Ron Paul loses it will be because people like you are cowards and give in to the status quo.

      • Vicki

        Correct. If everyone who wants anyone but obama would realize that Ron Paul is that anyone he would win by a large margin.

        All of you who claim we are wasting our vote but vote for Obama with an R, remember this day. And remember that YOU could have used your vote for real change.

        Now consider who really wasted their vote.

    • DaveH

      Unless you advocate Big Government, Michael, it is you who is wasting your votes. Every time you cast a vote for a Big Government advocate, you set us back 4 more years. It’s better to not vote at all than to vote for somebody who will grow Government ever larger. When you do, you are just rubber-stamping the downfall of our once great country.

  • Steve E

    Just like any great nation in history. This one is going down for the same reason. History always repeats itself, because people don’t learn from history. Thanks to the public education system.

  • http:myfirstmillion.com Constance Archer

    When will this end when will America’s suffering stop. President Obama and his appoinent stop hiding, I really wonder if they can turn it around. Maybe government is a problem since they went on my web site in 2010 and threatened to take my Social Security and Medicare away. It seems the politicians are getting fat of the American people. They slam duck the middle class and the poor. Yet there living high of the American peoples sweat. I’m trying to start a business on Linkedin. Joans Gifts Solutions. LLC— I’m not sure that we are being brained washed by our government.

  • JDN

    Be prepared the best you can for any hard times ahead . Thats the best anyone can do until we can unite as a real force again . On the prepared note I did buy in on a good deal last week , Merit Financial is running a promotion on bullion at 1% over spot and free insured shipping , one of the best deals I could find . Good luck all .

  • Michael J.

    The string pullers already have contendgencies for dealing with the death of the dollar, and we will not like any of their solutions.

    “The Thing” that scares Robamney (Rothschild symbious), is Ron Paul.

    If all else fails, write in Ron Paul on your ballot, if elections are allowed to proceed.

    • upaces88

      Michael, you do that and Obama wins.

  • TIME

    In so far as the the money issues, The Euro will totaly crash & burn very soon thats all been in the works from day one.
    So what effect will than have on us here, well the first thing is that the dollar is going to crash and burn too. Again this to has all been in the works for years now.

    So what effect will both of these events have on the whole world?

    The end game is to have a “ONE WORLD MONEY form,”

    The WEALTH is long gone, all thats left is paper money with a value of ZERO.

    “Welcome to the New World Order Company Store.”

    It will make no differance who wins – we all loose.

    Peace and Love

    • JUKEBOX

      Did anyone notice when Obama said to the G8 that the US should adopt a European style economy?

  • FreedomFighter

    UN on Steroids: Trent Lott Turns to The Dark Side

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XhW9JFQrN4&feature=uploademail

    “also known as the Law of the Sea Treaty — would “cede our national sovereignty, both militarily and economically,” as he said five years ago when the issue was last brought before the Senate.”

    They would steal more money from US citizens.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      There are quite a few treaties coming up for ratification. None of them is in our best interests. All of them take away our rights. I would suggest that everyone contact their representatives except that I don’t think that ANYONE represents US!

  • dan

    there comes a time when things become so bad that PANIC is an appropriate response

    but will the sheeple become desperate enough to choose liberty and personal responsibility over social feudalism offered by the establishment

    • JUKEBOX

      I wonder who the 30,000 people that Hewlett Packard is laying off are going to vote for.

    • eddie47d

      Ask Carly Fiorina who ran HP and is now a political activist. Maybe you can bend her ear since she is a Republican and maybe a Conservative.

  • cbond01

    Only Ron Paul has the wisdom and is more than willing to restore America where Both Obama and Romney will continue to try to deceive YOU into going along with the status Que until America collapses.

    • Steve E

      Yes, and Obama and Romney are not even addressing the issue of our financial situation. By not even addressing the issue of collapse, it is surely going to collapse.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I believe that is their intention! They want to destroy our country, take away our rights, and put socialism into place. They want to control us. They want to RULE over us. After they have succeeded here they will move on to the rest of the world. They want a one world government!

      • Vicki

        They can’t take away our rights. Especially the inalienable ones. They CAN suppress those rights and that is what they have been doing for at least 99 years.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Vicki, sorry to say, they’ve already been taking away our rights with the Patriot Act I and II, the NDAA and the executive orders that have been passed recently. These laws are taking away our constitutional rights. They can now detain you without proof of cause. You no longer have the right to attorney, you no longer have the right to a trial, they can lock you up anywhere in the world. They can torture you. No one will know where you are or what happened to you. You no longer have the right of privacy. The government can eavesdrop on your phone calls, search your property without a warrant and fly drones overhead that can see and hear inside your home. The government has given itself permission to take your home, your car, your bank account, your food and your water. You lost your rights when you weren’t paying attention.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I forgot to mention, there are someUN treaties that have been signed by our presidents and are awaiting ratification by the senate. The small arms treaty would allow the UN to confiscate our weapons and our right to bear arms. The treaty on the rights of a child will forbid you from making decisions on behalf of your children. You will not be allowed to spank them. You will not have the right to their medical records without their consent. You will not be able to force them to go to church or to pick their religion. If they want to attend a mosque you will be required to take them to it. You basically will not be allowed to parent them. The UN will decide what is in their best interests. There is also the agenda 21 treaty. People will no longer be allowed to own property or decide where to live. Most of the world will be turned into green spaces where people are not allowed. You will not be allowed to drive a car or travel without permission. You will live in a small high rise apartment and take a train to the job that they assign to you. I’m not kidding! I’m not exaggerating! These things are true. Read about them. These are just a few of the treaties that are awaiting ratification. Our government has wonderful things in store for us as they usher in the new world order. Arm yourself with information!

      • Vicki

        Nancy in Nebraska says:
        ————————————————
        Vicki, sorry to say, they’ve already been taking away our rights with the Patriot Act I and II, the NDAA and the executive orders that have been passed recently. These laws are taking away our constitutional rights.
        ———————————————-

        Our RIGHTS come from our Creator and not some piece of paper. There may be some privileges that come from that piece of paper but not rights. What the government is doing with those laws (and why those laws are prima facie unconstitutional) is breaking the contract between We, The People and the government. That contract is embodied in the Constitution. The government is contracted to PROTECT our rights. They are no longer doing so and in fact are engaging in “a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object”. Despotism or tyranny. Most conservatives believe that contract is still a good one and we must force the agents of government to honor their oath to protect that contract. That force is embodied in the Soap Box, Ballot Box, Jury Box and Ammo Box. What the NDAA does that is particularly dangerous is to seriously damage the first 2 boxes and disable the 3rd.

        ————————————————–
        They can now detain you without proof of cause. You no longer have the right to attorney, you no longer have the right to a trial, they can lock you up anywhere in the world. They can torture you. No one will know where you are or what happened to you. You no longer have the right of privacy. The government can eavesdrop on your phone calls, search your property without a warrant and fly drones overhead that can see and hear inside your home. The government has given itself permission to take your home, your car, your bank account, your food and your water. You lost your rights when you weren’t paying attention.
        ———————————————–

        Rights can NOT be lost. You STILL have a right to an attorney but the government agents will tell you that you can’t have one. You STILL have the right to a fair trial but the government agents will not let you have it.

        Government can use powers to keep you from exercising your rights which is why I said “supress”. As long as people continue to believe that rights come from a piece of paper and not their Creator, the people will be easy to manipulate. If the Bill of rights were removed from the Constitution and you believed that the rights came from it you would just shrug your shoulders and accept the new way of doing things.

        KNOWING that those rights come from GOD you would work tirelessly to defeat those who would suppress those rights.

  • http://Yahoo.com J.Masarie

    My parents grew up in the Depression and I
    learned from their stories (or think I did) to be
    cautious, financially. Our daughter and son-in-
    law, who were raised in “good times” are suffering
    now, from over extending themselves (selling
    assets at great loss, facing forclosure,etc). They
    will remember their “hard times” well. I hope their
    children will pay attention, and avoid similar mistakes.
    Shlaque

  • Ajfrench

    All Romney has to do the first six months is create a regulatory environment for growth. And the second six; manage the bums, lushes, irreverent spenders, and slothful out of Wa. That should make his first year very profitable.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You must mean the unregulatory environment for growth. The regulatory environment got us into this mess.

  • cawmun cents

    Its not a tale of cynicism.
    It is a tale of skepticism.
    How can you overcome skepticism as a candidate?
    That may prove to be the question of our age.
    One thing is certain.Unless you have a duncecap on,you probably dont think the ones who are running for the presidency have the answer.Chances are that their actions,whether of late or formerly,just dont stand up to scrutiny.
    So where does that leave the political punditry of our nation?
    The word INSPIRATION comes to mind.
    Yet it is consistently ignored by those who have their own agenda,to the dismay of the populace at large.They shun pushing a candidate who inspires anything but incredulity,(mainly I believe)because inspiration requires action,eventually.
    They are attempting to give the folks what they think they want,rather than what they need.
    If you cannot inspire the private invetors to spur a new period of growth,based on the same old chestnut that was here before,it is because they are educated enough to know how this kind of gamble with their futures could be devastating.That does not inspire confidence in most with any sense at all.Words cannot do it either,because empty words are nearly always said by those attempting to be elected.This is where something new is needed.
    DO SOMETHING!
    The act of action is what is needed to inspire.But talking about actions you perceive to have been done,is not the way to inspire folks who can see the difference between inspiring actions and melarkey.
    Sure the college crowd seems to love it.
    But what do they know about the real world,since they havent been out there banging away at life for several decades yet?
    When you are trying to inspire voting blocks,instead of(en masse)the entirety of the populace,you dont understand why it leads to epic fail.It is because your interns(who write your speeches for you)havent lived in that decades old,”work until you drop”world either.
    So their speeches dont inspire anyone but those who have had their educations framed by the media/academia.Now you cant really read a speech from your teleprompter that energizes the main bulk of the public,who can tell what horsepuckey is from shoepolish.
    The other side of the coin is that someone thinks that having to have a pretty face with no substance,but plenty of style,is the way to go froward.(notice the incorrect spelling….it is on purpose.In the Bible,the term froward is used to describe something…look up the meaning for yourself)
    If there was a sense of purpose instead of just blowing about with the political winds of change(speaking of which,do you have any pal?….I am fresh out of coin),then inspiration could be attainable.But the ne’er-do-wells in certain circles of power,have decided that inspiration is just another word for horsepuckey,so there is none to be ushering forth in the near future.Just take another shot at hope by making some feckless speech about this and that,and keep campaigning.
    It what you do,that inspires the demographical division of our nation.
    Not what you say.
    But how do you talk to a wall of ignorance like one who has college interns writing his speeches?Those who are clueless bringing false hope to the masses,is not and has never been inspirational.You might as well think that there is credibility in daytime television talkshows.
    Ahem…..
    I drink to make other people more interesting…..I need another beer,for gosh sakes.
    Thats how much your candidates inspire me.
    A toast to arrogance and ignorance!They go skipping down the path together and are called”politics”.

    Cheers!
    -CC.

  • gary j

    Ron Paul is the only good choice.We need a man who understands the constitution!The government needs more,we need more jobs!You grow jobs,you grow tax payers!

  • FreedomFighter

    I dont believe the engineered collapse of the economy can be halted. We need be ready for picking up the pieces quickly.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I totally agree with you, FreedomFighter! Time is short! Get ready! Stock up! You may not get the chance later!

    • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

      Freedom fighter,
      I agree with you.

  • WillytheGeek

    Ron Paul, Win, Lose or Draw..

  • http://httpaol.com sean murry

    Lets hope obummer doesnt get elected after all he got us in this mess.

    • Deerinwater

      What? go sit in the corner.

      I think the economy is good a Romney house.

    • Daveh234

      Sean, which mess are you blaming on Obama? At least tell us the story.

      • vanessa

        One mess thats all hhis is the food stamps and the 99 weeks of unemployment abd free cell phones. Come on when times are tough you just might have to dig a ditch. You call it a safety net but if we cannot afford the net then why bring the whole world down over it. Just say sorry this time we will have to depend on charity, give charitable donations a complete tax credit and then let them find some minimum wage jobs. And hope that its a tempoary situation. My God people just need to get their act together. When I first got married we had a black and white TV into the early 80s cause we just couldnt wrap our hands around something that wasnt food. or a necessity. and we were working. Nowadays people on welfare have flat screen tvs and a cell phone is a right. You have the “right” to pursue happiness whether you get it or not is not my problem unless your handicapped.

    • MAP

      The Obamanation is just one of a long list of worthless demagogues that sells us down the river for whatever pay and bribes he can get from special interests. What has come to be the qualifications for his position? The ability to lie with conviction. The skill to blame all you failures on everyone but yourself. The talent to convince those you care nothing about that you care dearly. To be completely devoid of honor, character, honesty and virtue. To show sympathy for the state of the country while you stuff your pockets with ill-gotten gain. You must be able to hide your real worthless, deplorable and degenerate character behind a phony façade of the compassionate, understanding leader. In short, you must be what in other parts of society are referred to as a cheat, a liar, a fraud, and a thief. Obama just excels at these qualifications.

    • eddie47d

      Now if we could only get Jeff H to admit the Banksters are usually up to no good instead of running to their defense. Anytime I expose Wall Street he goes bonkers and accuses me of lying or of being a commie. Dave H does the same thing where I would mention Derivatives or Hedge Funds and how they effected our economy and he would blast me as not being a true Capitalist. Actually words that are much worse but we’ll leave it at that for now. If I would bring up certain subjects like Wall Street they think I am attacking their sacred cow and go ballistic on me instead of wanting the truth to be told. Now that Mr Meyers can mention Lehman Brothers (and derivatives) maybe they now can finally see the light.

      • DaveH

        Eddie,
        You don’t expose Wall Street. You slander it, that’s all. Please give us some specifics. Which Wall Street firms are harming you, and how?
        And I doubt you have the slightest idea what a “derivative” is. Please tell us, Eddie, what derivatives are and how they harm you.

      • http://None Mike C

        So the bankers are up to no good. SO WHAT. This is America, what is stopping you from going out and being a banker? What is stopping you from making money on Wall Street? Real estate? Sales? Engineering? Teaching? Working at McDonalds? What is stoppin you Eddie?

        Don’t be afraid of your freedom Eddie and stop hating others for their success.

        If you can’t get over it then become a policeman or a politician and issue your own brand of justice.

    • nc

      Sean, exactly when did our mess start? Was it in Nov.08 when 600,000 jobs were lost? Obama was not President! Was in it OCT. of 07 when the stock market began it’s 6000 point fall? Obama was not President then! The “mess” started when bush decided that he could improve on the economy he inherited with a new fiscal policy! That was 2001! Obama was not President then? BTW when AMERICANS had had an eight year look at the bush policy results over 70 % of those polled failed to approve of those results!

      DID YOU MISS SOMETHING THEY SAW?? DENIAL IS A MENTAL DISEASE!!!!!!

      • OneGuess

        Let us not forget; the Demonrats were in control in Congress during the Bush years. The Congress determines spending, NOT the president.

      • Ed Stahlschmit

        As a matter of fact the problems started a whole lot sooner! With a Democrat President!
        Don’t know if you were around yet,- but this wonderful guy decided that he could dip into the S.S. and medicare money, – and use it for “unappropriated payments” that were no provided for in the budget! So now we have a buiding full of “IOU’s”. WE have been “fighting wars,- with “limited response” responmse and winning for many years, — only to “pull out in defeat” at the end,– (and watch all those who helped to try and save their country– get excecuted!) Somewhere about this time it was decided to be goof foreign policy to not just import a lot of foreign goods into the counrty (incursion into American jobs)– But why not just send all our manufacturing plants over there and let those coutrys get “our money”– so it won’t be circulating and working over here! And tehn we choked the hell out of all the manufacturing places with high taxes (and of course exempted the feduciary)! Now Our leader is trying to get a bill passed eliminating “made in America” from manufacturing labels. Just who does this help??? Now it seems that another Presdent who “always had something going on under the table”, furthered all this tenfold– (but nothing compared to leader now)! Now we fast forward to that “awful Bush”.. Yes I voted for him, because the alternative was Al Gore! … Now if “good old Al” had won that one, we woud not be having the problems we now have !! I suspect we would all be living out in the country in yurts of mud huts,- we would probably be scurrying around looking for weeds, and seeds we could eat (raw). Don’t know if we would be allowed ot use “cow chips” to cook with or not,- as they cause Carbon dioxide when they burn — and that leaves a “carbon footprint”! — Possibly cows would only be in Government preserves to protect them from “extinction”, — they would definatley not be allowed to run free, because they burp and fart– and this is pollution! (Somehow under government supervision, they would not “pass gas” into atmoshphere and make a mess there! … So we might not even be able to maintain the “high standards of “Indias pesants” or the “poor people of Africa”! Seen how they cook their food?? Now about the middle of that “dastaredly Bush” (which Incidentaly I don’t particularly care for either)!!
        Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi Publicly announced that they were going to “tie up the congress”, and would not let even one bill (of value)-Bush proposed to be passed– guess what,— they didn’t!.. And yes he did start that thing with “fighting terrorists”, – and for good cause (or did you forgfet that several people were killed when the “Twin Towers went down”)? And YES George put that determined group on Osama’s trail — until they finally tracked him down and killed him,— And Obama took the credit (because he was in office when it happened)— But the monitary system and unemployment has increased
        many times over,— (and that is Georges fault”)! … My suggestion is to start lots of canidates on “conservative side for “write in’s”, — this way lots of votes can be siphoned off from Conservative side, – the bummer will “win again”, and our “socilism wil solve all probelms”! Soon we will be a “equal poverty nation, and there will be no “big money people” with jobs to offer– (but at least they won’t be making money!!)… Nope! I will swallow my dislike, and vote for Romney– I figure that there is a possiblilty that we might be able to vote him out when the next election comes along– elect the “0″ again, and “there will be no next election”!! BTW I don’t care that he is a Mormon,– any way you look at it he is not a Muslim!!

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        NC the mess started while Carter was president, on to when GW Bush was President with 100% dem house and senate. Case closed.

      • T i m

        To who ever is concerned , do not forget , dearly beloved RONALD REAGAN DE REGULATED the department of COMMERCE , which Carter created . THAT IS THE TRUE SOURCE OF AMERICA’S PROBLEMS TODAY . COMMERCE DEPARTMENT SETS THE COST OF LIVING ON EVERYTHING WE CONSUME . IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WALL STREET . Gas price at the pump should be around 5 0 cents per gallon . Most of the rest is taxes . WHERE IS ALL THAT MONEY GOING . CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON AND ASK …………..THEY WILL NOT TELL YOU BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW . There should not be a housing forclosure problem ….I WAS PAYING MY BILLS BEFORE I LOST MY JOB TO CORPORATE BANKRUPTCY . ………..DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE CREATED ALL THESE PROBLEMS , DECADES AGO . …THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . YOU ARE WEARING IT . AMERICA MUST GET OUT OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT . …………….RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT . My name is T i m

    • randall

      there is no difference between dem or rep, there is only one party in USA, the govt party, they serve the people that make money out of thin air, global banks, who pay the corporations, who pay the politcians.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Short and sweet and straight to the truth!

    • k-chan

      actually, Bush set the groundwork for Obama

      • k-chan

        and note Reagan before that with Rex 84, if you want to get particular

  • Harold Olsen

    I believe that what scares Romney most about Obama is their similarities and that people will begin to notice them. Romney is nothing but an Obama clone and, should he beat Obama in November (if there is an election) Obama’s polices, or a variation of them, will continue. Romney said the first thing he would do if elected would be to get rid of Obamacare. I don’t believe that for a moment, since it was Romney who created it via Romneycare and some of his people even helped Obama develop Obamacare, which makes Romney go ballistic if anyone mentions it in his presence. Our choice for this year’s election is Obama or his clone.

    • Vicki

      There are THREE choices this November. Obama, Obama spelled with an R, and Dr Ron Paul. Which one has a 25+ year history of upholding the Constitution?

      We do have a choice.

      • nc

        VICKI, you do have a choice but can you WIN with it? You can DECIDE with it if Dr. Paul sees fit to jump from a party that has done nothing to reward his efforts in the past.
        As soon as the Republican Convention is over the Republicans will put MR. Paul away like you do with Christmas decorations until they are needed again! STRAIGHT TO THE CLOSET FOR FOUR MORE YEARS!
        You can have an actor in the play or just be a part of the scenery!

      • D A Y

        IF WE SIMPLY ALLOW THE US TO DEVELOP ITS OWN NATURAL SUPPLY OF OIL AND GAS, THE ECONOMY WILL TAKE OFF LIKE A ROCKET. ROMNEY IS NOTHING LIKE OBAMALAMADINGDONG IN THAT REGARD. ROMNEY WILL ALLOW THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE TO BEGIN, A THIRTY THOUSAND JOBS, “REAL” SHOVEL READY PROJECT, NOT TO BE FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT,,, HEY THAT IS WHY OBAMALAMADINGDONG WON’T LET THAT HAPPEN, IT IS NOT A GOVERNMENT JOBS PROJECT!! ALL THE SHALE OIL WE HAVE WILL SUPPLY THE US FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, AND DRIVE DOWN THE PRICE OF OIL TOMORROW, BY JUST SAYING WE WILL ALLOW DRILLING TO START,,,, THE SPECULATORS BID ON TOMORROWS SUPPLY OF OIL,,, IF JUST THE THOUGHT OF A NEW SUPPLY OPENING IS HEARD OF, THEY DUMP THEIR STOCKS AND THE PRICE FALLS,,, MORE MONEY IN YOUR POCKET TO SPEND AND START THE ECONOMY BOOMING ,,, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE JOBS DRIVEN BY THE OIL INDUSTRY,,,,, WE CAN DRILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS RECESSION………………..

      • speedle

        Sorry Vicki, you do have a choice in November but Ron Paul is not an option. You either have Romney (who will be influenced by much of Ron Paul’s ideas) or you will have Obama (who will complete the destruction of this country as we have known it). Those are your two choices.

      • factnotrhetoric

        Vicky, you are correct, but are sidestepping the point of this article.

        The monster is clear and simple. It is called counterfeiting. Yet counterfeiting has built this great country into what it is. Also Counterfeiting is an old weapon used in most wars. Counterfeiting has been used for centuries to destroy countries. Hitler counterfeited British money in WW2.

        The true monster is the fact that, in the US, banks are allowed to make a loan on IOU’s they obtained from their other customers. These IOU’s are called derivatives or promissory notes. This is counterfeiting US Dollars, out of thin air, and loaning it to you for your home, based on other IOU’s.

        US Banks simply open an account for your $200,000 home loan based on other IOU’s, as if they were real dollars. American and Foreign Banks never have real US Dollars in their vaults, only IOU’s. This is legal, sanctioned, counterfeiting by our government. This has allowed America’s expansion and phenomenal wealth.

        Counterfeiting, by banks, has magically built America into what used to be the Strongest Country in the World. But, because of this counterfeiting, America is as strong as a house of cards, that is ready to tumble. Think about it, one bad loan will bring down the entire house of cards, because the banks never had the US Dollars in the first place. Whe the depositors want their retirement money and savings, out of the bank, the bank simply can’t do it. The Banks simply never had the US Dollars they loaned out, and won’t have the US Dollars when the investors want their savings and retirement money back.

        This counterfeiting fact, or monster, will also be the end to America, because foreign banks have picked up on the same trick. For example there is only $9.2 Trillion US Dollars printed, and in circulation, in the entire world. This is called the TOTAL US MONEY SUPPLY. Yet Banks, mostly foreign, have somehow magically loaned Americans $16 Trillion US Dollars without a single US Dollar in their vaults, only IOU’s from other foreigners.

        COUNTERFEITING IS THE MONSTER AND WILL BE THE END OF THE US CONSTITUTION THROUGH FAKE DEBT THAT MUST BE REPAID WITH REAL DOLLARS. NEITHER OBAMA, NOR ROMNEY, HAVE ANY INTENTIONS OF FACING THIS MONSTER.

      • speedle

        factnotrhetoric, yes it is a monster. But like a malignant tumor on the heart you have to be careful how you get rid of it. If you go in and excise it completely you will do so much damage to the heart that the patient will die. It starts with fiscal responsibility and we work it from there.

        The public needs time to wean itself off the instant gratification of printed money (or counterfeit if you prefer).

      • Vicki

        Tell me NC and others. Why would anyone vote for Obama with an R when they can vote fore Obama?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1351457960 Larry Dunnington

        Ron Paul 2012, period.

      • dufas magnet

        It’s people like DAY and speedle with their “Only two choices” that’s going to screw this Country. Others believe this propaganda as well so whether their heart is in it or not, they will abide by what they think is the only way, either Obama or Romney.. They don’t realize that it’s the money that’s talking, the money that’s spreading the mind set. We truly are a pack of idiots if we believe that there can only be two. I’ll vote Paul and not feel one ounce of regret.. Your not going to catch me being part of the problem once either clowns are elected and the truth comes out.. I would NOT have voted for either.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1339255666 Rhonda Reichel

        THAT’S RIGHT

        RON PAUL 2012

        the only one who will make the cuts necessary to get this country out of debt and back on the right track

        …of course he plans to stiff the federal reserve of the 1 1/2 trillion we owe them which would make me smile. ICELAND DID IT
        WE CAN TOO

      • Opal the Gem

        “Why would anyone vote for Obama with an R when they can vote fore Obama?”

        Because obama with an R is obama lite.

      • jerry1944

        You are right we dont have a choice is why we need to vote 3rd party obambo and romney both the same healthcare and gun laws makes me 3rd party and IF enough of us dont hole are nose to vote a 3rd party mite just do it this time. With God help ofcourse

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        In case anyone is interested, I recieved this today from one of my email buddies, it was marked URGENT!!! If true, I’d say it’s DAMN URGENT!!!

        http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

      • upaces88

        What ACTIONS has Ron Paul done to hold up the Constitution except to talk about holding up the Constitution?

      • upaces88

        Vicki, the title of the article is “The Thing that Scares Romney and Obama.”

        Not one word was mentioned about Ron Paul….you are hurting his chances by constantly bringing him up on every site we are on. It gets very very old and I like him.

      • cbond01

        The November election for President is NOT ONLY ABOUT OBAMA AND ROMNEY IN YOUR FACE 24/7.

    • Vigilant

      There are, I believe, a number of shortfalls when one tries to compare the Great Depression with where we will be as today’s situation deteriorates.

      The situations and attitudes of the public are quite different from those held by the people in the 1930s.

      The government handouts and federal work programs of the Depression were something new. There’s no doubt that, socialism aside, the recipients of those benefits were grateful to the government. Today’s “takers” are of a different mindset completely. For them, the stipends are an entitlement, the loss of which would result in a deep dissatisfaction directed at the Feds. Whereas the people supported their government, now they are either dependent upon or highly distrustful of that entity.

      Today, the ability to survive an economic debacle is vastly diminished amongst the populace. We’ve become soft, not only physically, but also in our abilities to cope with reversals of fortune. A much greater proportion of people were engaged in agricultural pursuits in the 30s, and while they couldn’t necessarily earn a living, they could at least fill their stomachs.

      Our relative affluence has bred generations of those who turn their noses up at physical labor, and who totally depend on the skills of others to fix things. Schools concentrate on the soft subject matter areas that yield graduates with no proficiency in anything that could truly move our civilization forward.

      I think it’s safe to say that no matter who, including Ron Paul, is elected, the president will have to take on a virtually insurmountable problem. No single person, perhaps no single government, can reverse the dysfunctional attitudes and indolence that have become entrenched after a half century of “sliding.”

      While the progressive policies have created a nation of sheep, they may also have created a large contingent of wolves in sheep’s clothing. Mayhem and chaos may be on the horizon.

      Cynical? Perhaps. I prefer to think of it as realism, not pessimism.

      • Warrior

        Vig – you have summed up the condition of our world very coherently and correctly. Good job.

      • MAP

        Excellent smmary Vigilant. We are very, very different than we were in 1930. At that time the country still had a manufacturing base and the government wasn’t bankrupt. We as a country, today, are bankrupt financially, morally, spiritually, and physically. Socialism and Leftist policies have totally destroyed us a people. I don’t feel confident that we will make a come back anytime soon, certainly not before the collapse. I, too, see civil uprisings unlike anything in the country’s history.

      • http://joescomre@gmail.com joe NTALIB from California

        I agree 100% the education system, The banking systemsare breeding a society built around government and corruptness and the mentality of people making money form those that do make the money! The people that are looking for jobs or won’t work are those that think just because you finished college, obtained some sort of degree “without a skill or proficiency, nor wokirng experience of any kind” are expecting take home checks in the 100′s of thousands. What a realtiy check! Now we have all of these illegal aliens doing the grunt work and or physical labor for these degreed individuals, it seems we cannot reap the benefits of lending our good tax dollars to indivuals that have little or no intention of paying this money back, or the education they have acquired does not apply to maybe 50% of the skills the economy and country requires fregarding the input and technology requirements needed as a country is now being challenged by the international trading, munufacturing, technical knowledge that is now being required to take this country into a new era of competitiveness. It is amazing how computers have created a society built on this idea that white collar worker is taoght to work the minimum required time and yes you deserve it !
        Since in most cases the American taxpayer has paid for this education! It is the “Socialistic tricle down affect” that has infected our country through the enept education sytem and overall attitude and nowhere to be seen work ethics,or ethics period within the majorityof the country, especially in the last two decades!

      • http://northwoodsmomblog.blogspot.com/ Tanya

        Great comment, Vigilant.

      • T i m

        SIR Vigilant ., My name is Tim. With all DUE respect , YOU ARE WRONG . …THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . …YOU ARE WEARING IT . AMERICA MUST GET OUT OF THE WORLD ECONOMY , STOP FOLLOWING THE LEADER OVER THE CLIFF . DR RON PAUL HAS SAID THIS , PART OF THE REASON HE HAS BEEN BLACKLISTED BY THE MEDIA , RICK PERRY HAS SAID IT , HE WAS TOLD TO SUSPEND HIS CAMPAIGN , JOHN EDWARDS SAID IT DURING LAST CAMPAIGN . The housing forclosure crisis should have never happened . It was advertised last election , how best to handle it . The banking system should be required to AUTOMATICALLY refinance a home to current conditions of the home owner after People loose their jobs. THERE WOULD BE NO FORECLOSURES OR EVICTIONS . …SIMPLY PUT THE LATE PAYMENTS ON THE OTHER END OF THE CONTRACT . WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT ABOUT THAT . Hillary Clinton said all this , BEFORE THE PARTY TOLD HER TO SUPPORT Obama . John Edwards wanted to outlaw corporate bankrupotcies . THIS WOULD HAVE MEANT , NONE OF THE CORPORATE OWNERS WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO COLLECT THEIR BILLION DOLLAR RETIREMENT BONUSES , PAID BY THE I R S / TAX PAYERS . ….DR PAUL IS GOING TO GET RID OF AT LEAST A TRILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT , 1 st YEAR …..?????? That is simple enough . Get rid of the welfare population , which is paid from SOCIAL SECURITY . SSOO MANY OTHER THINGS , ways to fix AMERICAN economy . How far you wana go with this . ? GAS PRICE AT THE PUMP SHOULD BE AROUND . 5 0 cents per gallon . Most of the rest is taxes , along with the ethonol and it’s taxes . State where I live , sales tax on gas at the pump is about 2 5 cents per gallon . JUST THE SALES TAX . Ethonol sales tax is the same , that is 5 0 cents per gallon . SAYS NOTHING OF THE OTHER TAXES . Last I read , FLORIDA has a user tax , applied , before final sales tax . Same thing with beer and tobaco . Multiply all this x ‘ s all the millions of sales PER DAY . WHERE IS ALL THAT MONEY GOING . The governors in all 5 0 states have the power to fix the AMERICAN ECONOMY . The governor where I live is claiming credit currently , for bring in 1 0 0 0 ‘s of jobs , just since the last mid term elections . THINGS WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DECADES AGO . ……….. SOCIAL SECURITY ….IS NOT BROKE . …GET WELFARE OUT OF IT . …..Find some other way to take care of those not ABLE to work . ….THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO AMERICAN ECONOMY . ….GET AMERICA OUT OF THE WORLD GOVERNMENT . Congress knew AMERICA would be where we are today , 3 0 years ago . Every president in my life time , has re knewed AMERICA BACK INTO THE WORLD ECONOMY . ……….Wheather RON PAUL can change anything or not , I VOTE FOR RON PAUL . GET RID OF ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES AND USE MANUAL BALLOTS .

      • vanessa

        If I were unable to pay my bills then the illegal alieans are gonna have competion. There is no job beneth me if I need or want the money. Think about it. My hubby has worked as a machinist, gardener, janitor, and now a warehouse clerk. He workes for a large company so the warehouse clerk pays great money but we can mow lawns, paint houses, janitor, wait tables, do maid work. What we wont do is steal and loot. Hey all you young people just step aside and well show you how its done.

      • Mazer

        Nice summation, Vig., and right on point. Those that don’t agree may be those wolves at the door when the aid stipends cease. Thanks for your input!

      • http://yahoo.com David C

        So, what happens is that Darwin´s theory takes over and only the strong, read well prepared, survive. The rest will be eliminated by one means or another. They will be shot while trying to rob, or they will simply lay down and wait for Big Brother to come and save them and die of starvation.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        David C, do you see any alternative? Some of those who are prepared will opt to help as many as they can but it will be a drop in the bucket. There will be the criminal element to deal with but also you will see good people whose children or they themselves are starving. They will do the unthinkable to survive. I suggest that everyone who reads this takes action now to stock up on food, water and ammo. Ugly times are ahead. Be one of those who is able to share rather than one of those who will be killing. I recognize that many will not be able to put aside enough to share but at least take care of you and yours!

      • THG 1956

        If you’d like a fictional look into what our future could be like , I just finished a book by James Wesley Rawles . It’s called Patriots , A novel of Survival In The Coming Collapse. It’s a very good book , and well written. It is Fiction , but it really could be a look into the future. If you scare easy , DON’T READ IT. lol…..I guess one of the things that makes it so real and so close to home is the Author uses names of our Political leaders of today. I guess there has to be some truths in it or he would have been sues .

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        THG 1956, I’ve been meaning to read “The Patriots”. I’ll have to get on that. I read a book online that I recommend. This guy wrote and posted the chapters one at a time. It was called “Flip of the Coin”. He started writing it in 2009 but you’d be amazed at how prophetic it turned out to be, the whole “green police” crap and the “FEMA” camps. His name is J. G. Elliot. He changed the name to “Overt Actions” and is selling a “kindle” version on Amazon for $2.99. Awesome read!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        WHEEW! What a day! I’m too pooped ed to post! Good night everyone!!!

      • DaveH

        Tim says — “AMERICA MUST GET OUT OF THE WORLD ECONOMY , STOP FOLLOWING THE LEADER OVER THE CLIFF . DR RON PAUL HAS SAID THIS”.
        Are you just ignorant, Tim, or are you purposely lying? Ron Paul is for Free Markets, and always has been. After reading the above statement of yours, I quit reading your comment because obviously you have no clue what you’re talking about:
        http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/

    • http://liberty Tony

      To Mr. Olsen:
      How True, How True!!

    • steve

      if 16 trillion isn’t enough to scare the begeebeez out of any one than nothing will. but at what $# is it over and out. and why are the people in the know so affraid of china? why not just pay them off. do anothder QE bond loan. it’s only another 1.5 trillion. pocket change for the prez. does anyone realize who is the biggest debt holder of this country? why it’s some of you favorite groups of US citizens. pension funds . they hold 6.7 trillion dollars of the USdebt . now you should be conscerned if your pension money is in this group because you could loose it all. but everyone is affrad of china. i’m affraid of our government. their the problem.

      • GALT

        Mr. Myers believed that a few hundred billion of dumped treasuries would be catastrophic.

        You think that 16 Trillion should be enough to get people’s attention.

        Let’s see if you are consistent regarding BIG numbers.

        The existing financial instrument derivative market, is $780+ Trillion…….where all the profits and fee’s have been stripped out……..and what happens here will be determined
        by the free market……which doesn’t have a very good track record when fueled by
        either “irrational exuberance” at one end, or “panic” at the other……

        In comparative terms, I don’t believe you can make a case that 16 trillion in debt is the
        problem here………historically, government debt has been higher than 100% of GDP
        in the past. ( right after WW2 )

      • DaveH

        What is a derivative, Galt?
        I doubt you know. But after you answer that please tell me –
        Why do derivatives bother you? Are you being forced to participate?

    • randall

      i agree, not much difference between the two canidates, both backed by the same group – global banks. when we have to borrow 40 cents of every dollar we spend and we have 700 trillon unfunded liabilites (promises to pay), we would have to cut govt by 50% to even attempt to handle this beast. we probably all know the dems or reps are totally irresponsible and will not make any attempt to curtail spending. all our instituions are failing: we have govt that does not serve the people, hospitals that do not heal, schools that do not educate and religons that do not teach spirituality. the only thing you can really do is prepare for what is coming, become self-relient, plant a garden, learn what native plants grow around you that are edible (weeds), get out of debt, unplug from non-stainable system, the change is happening now.

      • FreedomFighter

        FEMA Concentration Camps Investigation

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvv1_2VELo&feature=related

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • MNIce

        randall,

        We also have governments that do serve the people, schools that do educate, and hospitals that do heal. Many city, county, and even some state governments are doing an excellent job at a fair price. Those that do not need to suffer the market penalty – either their citizens should replace inept officials, or move somewhere where it’s done right.

        If your local schools are doing a bad job, is it because you ignored the school board elections? Too often the only people who run for the school board are teachers’ union hacks or radicals, and they win because the majority of the people who vote in the board elections are government employees’ union members and their friends.

        When you evaluate hospitals, you need to remember that everybody dies eventually – this has been the case since Eve gave the poison fruit to Adam. The real consideration is whether they have a reasonable percentage of successful treatments when we know success should be had with available medical knowledge and resources.

        And yes, there are churches that both teach and practice the truth. If your church does not teach the Bible as God’s inerrant word, or declares spiritual fellowship with others who do not, it’s time to look elsewhere. If your preacher places the atheism-based imaginations of fallible “scientists” above the historical record of Genesis, call him on it. Much of the spiritual decay we have is the result of precisely this form of idolatry, for it is a direct attack on the credibility of God Himself. Remember, evolution is not fact, it is not science, it is the #2 dogma of atheist philosophy. If you know the many questionable assumptions and presuppositions behind the alleged “proofs” of evolution, you would probably find it hard to believe.

        The bottom line is to quit whining about how terrible everything is and do what you can to make things better for yourself and those right around you.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “…or move somewhere where it’s done right.”

        One big problem with that. All too often they work to turn their new place of residence into what they just fled from.

    • Fritz

      At least Romney is not a Marxist.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Fritz:
        No, Romney is an elitist that will let Wall street do whatever they want and bleed this econ. dry. Which will lead to common Joes like us to be out in the streets in the soup line and trying to find a warm or cool grate to sleep over depending on the weather. Think about that. Thanks!!
        P.S. I’m heavily considering Gary Johnson-Libertarian candidate. Good Bye!!

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Fritz,

        You write: “At least Romney is not a Marxist.” No. He’s more of a fascist. But he’s more dangerous than Obama because he’s wearing the mantle of a conservative, which dupes a lot of people. Much like GWB’s “compassionate conservatism” which was simply socialism or benevolent totalitarianism, which morphed into fascism toward the end of his eight years.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Thor

        On the mark, Bob, and well said. If it accomplishes nothing else, the election of Ron Paul would send the resounding message that we are tired of fascists, Marxist, faux-conservatives and elitists. It is, in point of fact, the only way we have of sending that message.

      • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

        fritz and Bob Livingston ,
        I can’t tell the difference between Obama or Romeney,neither one of them offer no solutions,just empty rhetoric.Bob,what you said in tthe your newsletter may well come true;starting next year.We may be witnessing a greater disaster than the thirties.

      • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

        fritz and Bob Livingston ,
        I can’t tell the difference between Obama or Romeney,neither one of them offer no solutions,just empty rhetoric.Bob,what you said in your newsletter may well come true;starting next year.We may be witnessing a greater disaster than the thirties.

      • speedle

        So, Bob Livingston, seeing as how Romney is “worse than Obama”, can we assume that you would rather see Obama re-elected than have Romney become president? Let’s assume these are the only two options. Can you answer this question?

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear speedle,

        You write: “So, Bob Livingston, seeing as how Romney is “worse than Obama”, can we assume that you would rather see Obama re-elected than have Romney become president?” As there is little difference between the two on the issues of spending, gun control, wars, universal healthcare, the Federal Reserve, etc., it matters not.

        You write: “Let’s assume these are the only two options. Can you answer this question?” I do not accept your assumption so your question is moot.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • upaces88

        Romney is WH and Soros approved. Doesn’t that tell us anything?
        From the very beginning, and by beginning, I mean it was right after he announced his run…Romney was shoved down our throats including the fraud Poll put out by the Soros team in the very beginning. A group of us set out to stop the poll and we were successful.

        What makes it worse? Newt Gingrich had the highest poll numbers over Obama:
        Poll – 10045 – Gingrich vs. Obama

        *Who would you vote for, Newt Gingrich or Barack Obama?*
        1. Newt Gingrich (82.9%)
        2. Barack Obama ( 10.7%)
        3. Neither ( 4.76%)
        Not Answered ( 1.45%)

        *Whom do you believe has better solutions for the nation’s economic
        problems?*
        1. Conservatives ( 83.7%)
        2. Liberal ( 6.89%)
        3. Neither ( 7.59%)
        Not Answered ( 1.77%)

        http://extras.wnd.com/polling/10045_Gingrich_vs._Obamathanks.php?promocode=wd-100551

        Following this the very next day, the RNC instructed Newt to “suspend” his election as they took his Security Team away leaving Romney’s in place.

      • cbond01

        Only Ron Paul would beat Obama just by using TRUTH with NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS..

      • upaces88

        Cbon01…The Ron Paul supporters have ruined any chance he may have had. Due to their overly zealous comments, they make themselves appear to be mentally ill; therefore, how can anyone have faith in Ron Paul if his followers disrupt meetings chanting? How can anyone have faith in Ron Paul when on almost EVERY blog site they show up on, and I am very serious, on a Science Fiction theory blogging article… they interrupt by saying things like, “That wouldn’t have happened if they had only voted for Ron Paul.”
        Ron Paul supporters ruin his chances of being taken seriously.

      • cbond01

        You want the STATUS QUE and that is what you will get. UNLESS YOU TAKE A STAND FOR YOU COUNTRY AND NOT STAND WITH THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE YOU A DEBT OF $16,000,000,000,000.00 for putting the in office. They will keep raising the debt ceiling and printing fake dollars until they sink and YOU CAN WATCH. There is NO POWER OF THE PEOPLE IF THEY JUST watch like too many years in the past.

      • T i m

        You can thank the BUSH clan for that . Republican Establishment is following ROMNEY because DADDY BUSH said so .

      • cbond01

        SO, RON PAUL should be President because He is the only hope left. Romney would be MORE of the same and Obama would be MUCH MORE of the same.

      • upaces88

        Tim, I saw when Bush came out in support of Romney…made me sick at my stomach!

        Video: George Bush Sr: New World Order

        http://cmblake6.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/okay-on-that-last-one-i-blew-up-a-bit-early/

      • T i m

        I pray / beg you to remember , daddy BUSH was a carry over from REAGAN . REAGAN WAS NOT THE DEARLY BELOVED EVERYONE IS BRAINWASHED TO BELEIVE . Congress of that day , created the legislation which started the downward spiral we are in today . GINGRICH was House speaker then , wrote a lot of the stuff we are in today . The only reason daddy BUSH did not get second term was because CLINTON PAID PERROT TO RUN 3rd party . THAT FACT SHOWED THE WORLD , HOW BIG CLINTON IS , AND DADDY BUSH was not as popular with the people as REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT WANTED HIM TO BE . ……………….IF RON PAUL CAN PULL A RABBIT OUT OF THE HAT ( in the name of JESUS , I HOPE SO ) …IT WILL AGAIN SHOW THE BUSH CLAN , THEY DO NOT CONTROL EVERYONE . I will continue to support RON PAUL …… Media I listen too says , the up coming TEXAS primary will seal the deal with delegates . I HOPE ALL THE SO CALLED DELEGATES SIGN UNCOMMITTED , AGAINST ROMNEY . ….. The PAUL supporters are supposedly planning a huge party , day before the FLORIDA CONVENTION . ?????????? I would love to see a view of that . So many people on the street are spredding the rumor , RON PAUL HAS QUIT . NNNNNOOOOO……..T i m

      • cbond01

        Both Bushes are of the Republican Establishment. Reagan was not and they tried to make Him become one.

      • cbond01

        Both Bushes are of the Republican Establishment as well.

      • T i m

        From what little I know of it , SPEEDLE , which group is richer , the BUSH family or the Soro’s clan . CNN said last fall , Bush Sr. ws quoted to say , Romney will be it . Ron Paul has been blacklisted . Last I read he does nt want to ask for any more donations to continue campaigning , ALL US SUPPORTERS MUST CARY ON . That act is very novel of Dr. Paul . He refuses to go into debt to become president . How do you ”GO IN DEBT ” for political office . I am not allowed to do that with my personal money . Dr. Paul has said he would knock out a trillion dollars of national debt 1 st year . All the other guys were piling up debt month after month to buy the WHITE HOUSE . Romney’s and Obama’s resources are unlimited ????????????? What an oxy moron . Sounds to me like Dr. Paul is practicing what he preaches . Will not go into debt . I continue to support RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT . My name is T i m

      • speedle

        Bob Livingston, you should stay away from that Clyde May Alabama moonshine because it is clouding your vision. You cannot seriously say that Obama and Romney have the same philosophy on spending, gun control, wars, and universal healthcare, That makes no logical sense. Do you reaaaaalllly think that Obama and Romney view the second amendment through the same philosophy? Spending? Do you think a former venture capitalist plans to use public funds in the same manner as a socialist who has never even held a job? Even with “wars”, how can you talk about Romney being comparable with Obama when he has never been in a position to send troops anywhere?

        I know you would like to compare Obamacare with Romneycare and make the reach that they are one and the same. Sorry but that just isn’t so. It’s not that I am in love with all Romney’s philosophies but Romney the same as Obama – please!!! The only thing they have in common is they both have ten fingers.

      • T i m

        Speedle , you need to do more research . Do not stop when you see something you might not like . THE BUSH FAMILY HAS ENDORSED ROMNEY . Obama has carried on several things the Bush clan started . HYBRID CARS ..! Bush Jr signed that bill year before the last election . Obama sent troops to LYBIA , After saying he was gona close GITTMO …………..HOW FAR YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS . The welfare population is bigger than ever , the main cause of SOCIAL SECURITY MELT DOWN . ALL POLITICS IS THE SAME …………..RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT .

    • JOSEPH FOSTER

      Harold I agree that Romney is nothing but Obama clone.
      Here are my comments nether candidates are address the issue that is causing the decline of America.
      1. America can no longer afford to be the police man of the world.
      2.. The western world since the Industrial revolution enjoyed a monopoly in manufactured goods, during Britain colonial empire its manufactured goods were exported to its colonies duty free. That monopoly has now been lost.
      3.. Many American factories from coast to coast are shut down, they forget to post a sign at the factory gate moved to China, help wanted apply in China.
      4.. Defense spending could not be cut, since the Industrialists of the Armament Industry are the boss of both candidates.
      5.. The USA Government has become unaffordable to the American Tax payers, it keeps growing. Government employees’ wages has now surpassed what is paid to workers in the private sector. Reason their employer has the permission to print and borrow money.
      6.. How does the west in light of the fact that the factory of the world that was once in the G7 countries has now moved to China.
      7.. How high employment could be maintained when a country ceases to be an Industrial country. Example Greece is never considered a major Industrial country today it has 20% unemployment.
      How could the massive debt of the USA be reduced such reduction will require downsizing the US Government. All of the above issues and many others are being ignored by both candidates; the election campaign has now resorted to mudslinging, each candidate searching for mud to throw at his opponent. Massive money is being spent to brain wash the American people that the economy will recover. In my book I wrote a chapter Titled, ‘No recovery for the western world on the Horizon’ Joseph Foster, Author ‘’Seeing Red’’ ‘How America is losing the future’ Available at: http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Red-Joseph-Foster/dp/1613468121/

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