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Racists For Obama

May 11, 2012 by  

Racists For Obama
STAFF PHOTO BY SAM ROLLEY
Blacks supported Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008 by a margin of almost 24-1.

I wondered how long it would take for someone to raise the issue of racism in this year’s Presidential election. The answer came sooner than I expected. Last week, The New York Times ran the story “4 Years Later, Race Is Still Issue for Some Voters.”

In case you thought the story might be an exposé of the virulent hatred of America by some of President Barack Obama’s more extreme supporters (such as his longtime pastor Jeremiah Wright), forget about it. That’s old news and obviously not worth discussing any more. Heck, for the mainstream media, it was hardly worth discussing four years ago.

Nor was the story about the near unanimity of black voters to support a member of their own race worth discussing. Obama is expected to receive 95 percent of the black vote this year, just as he did in 2008 — no matter who his opponent is or what the issues are. Of course, there’s nothing racist in that.

No, the emphasis of the story was on how a tiny minority of white voters –especially those in “economically depressed regions with high proportions of white working-class residents” — said they wouldn’t vote for Obama because he is black.

So it’s OK for blacks to vote for Obama specifically because he is black. But it’s racist if a white votes for another white because of his skin color. Does anyone see a bit of a double standard here?

Of course, such bias (dare I say prejudice) has been around for a long time. Many liberals believe the only way to make up for decades of discrimination is to go overboard the other way. “Equality” wasn’t enough; we needed affirmative action and a new kind of discrimination.

Thus, it has become perfectly OK for this country to commemorate Black History Month. And, of course, every college that wants to keep its professors happy better offer a bunch of courses celebrating black achievements. But can you imagine the furor that would erupt if anyone dared propose teaching a class on white achievements?

What got the Times reporter so rattled was her concern that Obama’s race could keep him from being re-elected this year. As Sabrina Tavernise explained, “As Mr. Obama braces for what most signs suggest will be a close re-election battle, race remains a powerful factor among a small minority of voters.”

Of course she means a “small minority” of white voters. Had she broadened her survey to include blacks, she could have written that race mattered to “a large majority.” In fact, it matters to a very large majority. Blacks supported Barack Obama over John McCain in 2008 by a margin of almost 24-1. But of course there’s nothing racist about that.

The Obama campaign is doing everything it can to make sure that this particular history repeats itself. There is even a special section on the campaign website on “The Obama Administration’s Accomplishments for the African American Community.” Click here to see what I am writing about.

Then Tavernise hits her audience with the zinger:

“Given Ohio’s critical importance as a swing state that will most likely be won or lost by the narrowest of margins, the fact that Mr. Obama’s race is a deal-breaker for even a small number of otherwise loyal Democrats could have implications for the final result.”

Now that is a bunch of baloney. What are the odds that someone who voted for Obama four years ago (when he carried Ohio by a comfortable margin) will vote for his opponent this year because Obama is black? Does she really think this is something the voters didn’t know in 2008? Her argument that anti-black bigotry could cost Obama the election this year is ridiculous.

If Obama loses, it won’t be because a majority of voters reject his race. It will be because they reject his policies.

What Republicans Should Do

Faced with the fact that blacks will once again overwhelmingly vote for Obama this year, what should Republicans do?

The most absurd argument I’ve heard is that they should select Condoleezza Rice as Mitt Romney’s running mate. Sure thing. And how much of the black vote will go to Romney because he has a black female on the ticket?

Let’s face facts: If Romney got four times as many black votes as McCain did four years ago, that would still be as insignificant as a mosquito biting the Hulk. In 2008, the black vote came to 12.1 percent of the total. Obama captured 95 percent of it. Does anyone think there is anything Romney could do to keep Obama from getting the overwhelming majority of it again?

Nominating Condoleezza as Vice President to fragment the black vote makes as much sense as choosing a union leader to make inroads in the union vote. Or a bureaucrat to get the government worker vote.

If Romney is to have any kind of chance this year, he must select someone who will get potential voters to work like crazy for his election. Those dedicated doorbell pushers and yard-sign displayers aren’t going to come from the liberal side of the ledger.

To use a phrase you’ve heard hundreds times before (and will hear a thousand more times before this November), Romney has to choose a candidate — and stake out positions — who will motivate the base. That isn’t Rice.

Heck, I suspect it isn’t even a black whose views I do support, such as Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell or Representative Allen West. Although any of those three articulate defenders of American principles would sure add some fire to the race. Could you see any of the three debating Joe Biden? Now, that’s a confrontation I’d pay good money to see.

I hope the left will continue to bang on the “if you oppose Obama you must be a racist” drum because the more they do, the more votes it will cost them. This one just doesn’t play in Peoria anymore. In fact, the only place it does work is the Obamas’ former church. Oh, and maybe Al Sharpton’s congregation.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • sabulaman

    Amen. Ana.

  • Pete0097

    i am a slightly bigoted white (really very light brown) and I supported Herman Cain for President. He had the right ideas to make America grow. By the way, I am against STUPID, ignorant, arrogant people and obama fits that to a “tee”

    • http://none ann anderson

      I feel Obama is a puppet and like a lava lamp has no spine or qualifications, It’s the bad
      liberals surrounding him that all need to go as well. I never voted for him thak goodness.

      • Doc Sarvis

        President Obama had the guts to go after bin Laden and give the order to take the terrorist out. More than the previous three Administrations (2 different Presidents) would.

      • Doug

        Doc please send me the proof that they killed Osama in Parkistan? Oh that’s right they have none nice try!

    • MAP

      Obama ia a liar and a clown. An evil clown.

      • Deerinwater

        And you are? Someone that knows about such things more so then others?

        Is this a special acquired skill or are you just gifted?

      • MAP

        Merely observant.

      • truesoy

        …and don’t forget, he was born in no longer a planet, Pluto.
        By the way, I think that tin-foil hat is a little too tight around your head.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

    • Patriot II

      Pete, I tend to agree with with you about Him, but lately I feel he is very intelligent since he intentially is trying to destroy this country and he is very clever in his way and we have all been duped by him and his bosses, the Elite Rich of the World.

      • Deerinwater

        All I can say Pete is, I’m glad you are not in charge of anything that affects me.

        Anyone that couldn’t see Herman Cain for what he was doesn’t need to be in charge of anything more important then a Snow Cone Stand, as long as it doesn’t have wheels on it.

        12 inch, 2 topping $9.99! ??? Get real! ~ He was a Rapper, Horn Dog, always was, always will be. A man of very low caliber and you want to install him in the White House?

        The Out House would be a better choice. He’s the only candidate that made Rick Satorium seem appealing.

        darn you Republicans! ~ You are Just too easily mesmerized ~ What has happen to you people?

        It wasn’t always this way! ~ there was a time I considered republicans very bright ~ But why is it now this “huge void” in being able to size up a worthy contender?

        We need some serious WORTHY opposition to make our form of government work correctly. You are not providing it with the likes of Herman Cain, Mitt Romney or Rick Santorum.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Who says Black voters will cast their ballot for President Obama just because he is half Black? Your obligatory false premise. Black support for President Obama, like many non-Black supporters, comes from his stands on the issues our country faces.

    By the way; white history and achievment have been and continue to be the main thrust of our education.

    What should Republicans do? Stop accepting the idea that by giving the rich more money it will trickle down to the rest of us. Repbulicans should start concerning themselves with the middle and lower class. The rich have been the benefactors of the wealth redistribution that has been in place since Reagan was in office (accellerated in the last 14 years or so).

    • http://Yahoo Bob Herring

      Doc….Republicans don’t divide classes, we try to look at the entire population and do what is best for all. Dividing America has been a ploy instituted by Obama…thats why he worries me. We need a leader that looks out for the entire country. We also need one that will cut all the waste in Washington….and stop this mad spending before we are no more.

      • Maryland Freestater

        I disagree – this started a long time ago, back in the 1800s when proto-Communism arose in Europe.

    • Mike Kartye

      If black support comes as a result of his stand on the issues, does that mean that 95% of black americans support abortion and gay marriage?

    • MAP

      Doc, this whole post is as senseless and absurd as anything else you have ever wasted space for here. It’s just more communist drivel, fit only for the gullible and/or mentally challenged. Does someone pay you for this silly propaganda and lies? Are you and Flashy on the same payroll?

      • Doc Sarvis

        It is obviously hard for some here to look clearly at the issues. I understand your difficulty.

      • Doug

        Here Doc Doolitte look at these stictics and tell me where your Communist ideas of tax the rich tax the rich works!

        First off, what President Bush enacted into law cut taxes across the board on everyone, not just the upper echelon. The 15 percent rate dropped to 10 percent, 27 percent to 25 percent, 30 percent to 28 percent, 35 percent to 33 percent, and 39.6 percent to 35 percent. Now go ahead and ask a lib which income bracket received the highest cut. Oh, snap: That would be the lowest income threshold, which nosedived five percentage points.

        The whole “tax cuts for the rich” is pure bunk, a lie that liberals shamelessly popularize. Not that this should surprise us one bit. Here we have a Democrat Party in America that couldn’t agree on a puny $1.2 trillion in spending reductions over a 10-year-period. That means that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi’s minions refused to slice off what amounts to $120 billion dollars a year of a federal budget nearly topping $4 trillion. Instead they insisted that taxes be jacked up to pay for their statist programs.

        Next up, we have the line that tax cuts blew the lid off of our deficit. That’s funny, because during the last year a Republican budget controlled Congress (fiscal year 2007), the deficit stood at a minuscule $161 billion dollars. $161 billion! That’s at least five years into the tenure of those evil tax cuts. Moreover, as HUMAN EVENTS has previously reported, federal tax receipts actually went up while the tax cuts were accelerating. In other words, the United States Treasury received more money not less because of the Bush tax cuts that we’re told ruined America’s economy.

        See for yourself:

        $1.88 trillion in 2004

        $ 2.15 trillion in 2005

        $ 2.4 trillion in 2006

        $ 2.6 trillion in 2007

        The last figure was actually the highest dollar amount brought into the Treasury Department… ever. That’s right, folks. While Democrats wail and whine about tax cuts as the main culprit for this country’s deficit woes, it turns out that we were bringing in bagfuls of money at historic proportions during that same time.

        Idiots.

        Then there are the politically-savvy, but totally fallacious, calls for “shared sacrifice.” Naturally the Democrats don’t use that phrase to describe the nearly 50 percent of Americans who don’t pay any federal income taxes, but instead those who already pay the bulk of all federal, state, and local taxes. That aside, it’s the spending side of the lever that is completely out-of-whack, and has been so for a while. We’re now in our third straight year in a row with deficits exploding past $1 trillion dollars.

        So when a lib is babbling to you about “shared sacrifice,” you can remind him that his great leader Messiah Obama shattered two spending records: Giving America her first-ever $1 trillion dollar deficit, and number two, extending that history-making deficit three consecutive years.

        Heck, this guy has managed to increase the national debt by more than the first 41 presidents combined (George Washington to George Bush), and he’s managed to accomplish this feat in a mere 32 months.

        You go, Barack!

        And there you have it, the cutting evidence you need at your finger tips to eviscerate those unending lefty desires to slam us against the locker room and raid our wallets some more. Time to hit these Dems back

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        you are 100% correct Doug, BRAVO!

      • DaveH

        I don’t think so, MAP. Flashman is likely an administration operative who is purposely trying to disrupt Freedom-seeking people, but Doc is just ignorant.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        DaveH, I thought that about Flashy also. But then I believe in conspiracy theories.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        As DaveH remembers so well, Flashy has posted several times he’s paid to do “research” for his job…..

      • JeffH

        Libertytrain, oh how those pesky “moments of weakness” can rear an ugly head…when others clearly remember what “HE” says…darn, there was no mention of it in the manual I recieved :(

    • Power To The People

      Doc, you crack me up….what has the trillions spent since the 60′s on poverty, food stamps, HUD, federal education standards and all the other donkey demands actually achieved?

      • Patriot II

        It gets us into our current MESS, thanks Dems!! The Liberal policies of the Dems is like a Cat litter Box with no Litter, Crap gets covered up by Crap and the stink goes away becuase they bury THEIR Heads in the Sand (litter).

      • walter

        It made very good college educations available for men like myself. I was the first in my family to earn a degree. Guess what Power to the people, I raised six children, 5 of whom hold degrees. Wait, Power, it gets better,now I have grand children in prestigous universities like St. Johns, Georgia Tech, and yes, Harvard University, where my grandson is full time student on a full four year academic scholarship. Thanks Power to the people and thanks America, we are all full participants in this American Dream

      • truesoy

        Walter,
        you might be wasting your time there, he/she can’t see the forest because of the trees; it happens to some people.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • DaveH

        So Walter, with all that education it sounds like you and your family could do just fine without riding on other peoples’ backs.

    • Patriot II

      Doc, you are soooooo Ignorant

  • JON

    A person will vote how they will vote no matter what color their skin may be. It would be like saying all people with red hair would only vote for Romney.

  • MAP

    Consider the absurdity of the Left/Marxist agenda. It is so destructive and oppressive that no one in his right mind would support it (liberals have no mind to lose). That is the purpose of division. They create division among the races, among the queers, among the religious, and on every issue, to garner support. ‘Divide and conquer’ is the only means by which they can move forward. They thrive on anarchy and chaos.

    • Maryland Freestater

      True that!

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Amen MAP

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    The reason why Obama has the Black,Hispanic, Jewish, Women,Gay, and even Asian vote in the bag is because the Gop along with conservatives, as a whole, has alienated these
    groups. You all need to read the writings of the late William F. Buckley, plus late Jack Kemp that warned against this situation and the disaster it will eventual cause conservatives. My suggestion is to buck the trend. Hispanics are 17% , Blacks are 15%, and women, who overlapped in the above mentioned groups, are the majority of the U.S. pop. Make changes now or be doomed. Thanks and TGIF!!

    • Michael

      Well said Tony. Unfortunately the new right is visceral, not intellectual, so if they change at all it will be to make themselves even less appealing to the general population. We are witnessing the death of the Republican party. Even I, a lifelong Republican, can’t vote Republican anymore because of the low quality of the candidates. The ONLY reason any Republican gets elected anymore is because of the vast sums of money being dumped into politics by the facist super rich on the theory that with enough money you can sucker 51% of the voters into voting against their own self interests. Eventually even that is going to quit working and that will be the end.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Michael wher have you been and what planet do you reside on? Last I heard Obama has a billion dollar campain. Hell just recently him and his star friends had a $40,000 per plate dinner fund raiser. You lie as much as him. look in the mirror and talk out the other side of your ass.

    • Scott in SC

      I agree, it’s like Jerry Doyle says, “I didn’t leave the Republican Party, they left me.” And folks please don’t confuse Repulicans with conservatives because most aren’t. They’re just as pro big government as anyone on the left.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Tony -War on women. Ask antywomen if she thinks that rebublicans hate their wives, moms, sisters and women co workers and they will ask you if you have been drinking and smoking crack!!!

      • Deerinwater

        They don’t hate their wife so much as they hate other peoples wives, sisters and daughters.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Deer I am convinced your are an idiot!!

      • Deerinwater

        This ability to “convince” yourself without benefit of the facts is sort of the definition associated with a “idiot” Brad.

        Have you yet to understand, the world in see though the eyes mirroring back a self image.

        If that is too complicated for you, allow me to say it another way. You get back what you send out. ~ or to say ~ your world will never be anymore the what you allow it to be.

        If you don’t possess the capacity to see, it will never be a part of your world.

        So Brad? The only question remaining is, ~ How do you like your world so far?

        You must first posses things to be in the position to give them away.

        So what else do you possess besides insults?

      • Michael

        Women voters currently favor Obama by 12%. That means many don’t support them and you found them but come election day that 12% is going to make a big difference. You righties need to prepare yourselves, mentally, for the likelyhood of 4 more years of Obama. Eventually, even you, will admit you were wrong about him.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Michael if you are right you best prepare yourself for a fight because that is going to piss off 75% of the nation that did not vote for him and there will be blood on the streets of the US like you have never seen before.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Brad:
        No, i haven’t been doing any of those substances. Let me ask you this, have you been drinking moonshine made from the distillery in your backyard outhouse or have you been doing methadone from the corn cob pipe your grandaddy gave you? Just curious, yee haw and hee -haw!!

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        No Tony but I am going have coffee with a few 100 conservitives in the mornig though, we all meet for cars and coffee every Saturday morning to show off our many classic and exotic car collections. you see I am the rich prick you despise. but nice try.

      • http://liberty Tony

        In Response to Brad:
        Well sir, i’m a fiscal conservative that earns his bread from the sweat of my brow as stated in the old Testament in the Good book. This is something you “rich pricks” can’t comprehend. One good thing out of this bad sit. that the Gop is in, by 2016 they have their act together after this disaster, Then a Rubio/Watts ticket will take charge to lead into a golden age, Thus, the message is to be patient plus keep the faith as always!!
        TGIF!!

    • Doug

      Wow Tony if f you what you say is true then how did the Republicans take ove the House of Representitives in a land slide? You my friend are full of it! And please I have seen very few Democrates in my life time and I am 53 that I would even vote for to be the dog catcher. I agree the Republican old boys have been putting idiots up for president but the Tea Party and many other organizations are doing there best to back the once proud party. When I see the Democrate party I see nothing but red as in Communist and if you think that a good system to live under I suggest instead of reading someon opinions on that you read about history and what Socialism, Marxism and Communism does for anyone!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Tony, conservatives do not blow with the wind. We will never just say what you want to hear. We won’t give up our values to pander to groups of people, seeking their votes. We actually believe in conservative values. We would like to see this country returned to the greatness that it once was. Conservatives don’t hate groups of people. We hate the actions of people who are bringing down the country. We hate communism. We love freedom and liberty. We love morals and ethics. We seek good. We won’t change just to get a vote. We are true and sincere.

      • http://liberty Tony

        Dear Nancy:
        I hate to have to tell you this. But what you’re seeing here isn’t true “conservatives”. You see the meaning of conservative is to conserve, maintain, and build with progressing. What you see in today’s “conservatives” are reactionary types that have simplistic, tryannical designs. These types want to take our country back 40-200 yrs. This is where people like yourself is bare-foot, pregnant, wearing an apron and back in the kitchen. A person as myself, is either back in the cotton fields, a servant in the big mansion, or playing in a sport stadium to entertain the elite. Sorry for the extreme examples but this will be the result if these reactionaries get into power. As mentioned in my first post here, you should look at the writings of the late William F.Buckley, the late Jack Kemp, the recently retired talk show host Tony Brown, and Priscilla Buckley, the daughter of late William. These ideas are how ideal conservatism works. Lets hope the GOP can go back to these roots or we’re doomed. Thanks!! TGIF!!

  • http://geefrost9@gmail.com Gary Frost

    Obama needs to be out voted.He is not as honest as people thinks.And racism is on the black side to.Wake up America.

  • frank

    The blacks that are on food stamps and everything else they can get free from the government will vote for this food stamp president Obama. The blacks that are working for a living will not. They are the smart one’s.

    • Vigilant

      Sorry, Frank, that’s not entirely true. 95% voted for Obama. 95% are NOT on food stamps or welfare.

      Black unemployment rates are hovering around 20%. That means 80% are employed.

      Consider changing your statement to “People that are on food stamps and everything else they can get free from the government will vote for this food stamp president Obama.”

  • Ana

    Sir/Madam: To say that Obama has the black vote in the bag is so untrue. I am an African American who saw through this man during the 2008 election and DID NOT vote for him neither did any of my family members. Our family do not vote Race, but issues and after hearing Mr. Obama speak with such arrogance, I knew he would not be good for this country which I love dearly. My Bible says: A humble man tastes the grace of God, but the haughty will be abase (paraphrased). I feel sorry for others who vote race, even though they see the detriment that has been done in our Country over the past four years. I do hope that the eyes of those who feel that because a person is of their race, they should support them, even though they see that the person has no love for our Country, would wake up. As stated in the Bible, “when an unrighteous man rules, the people mourn and when a righteous man rules the people rejoice. May God help us to return to God, who is the only One who can heal our Land.

    • MAP

      Beautifully said, Ana!

    • http://Yahoo Bob Herring

      Spoken Like a True American… we need more like you.

    • Michael

      Getting 95% of the vote of a group DEFINITELY means that group is “in the bag”. One weird characteristic of humanity is that someone will be against virually anything, no matter how bizarre that view is to the rest. For example, take 100 devote fundamentist Christians – at least one of them would be against the rapture. Its our nature.

      • http://naver samurai

        Care to cite a source on this one Michael? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Maryland Freestater

      How would YOU like to run for President, Ana??

      • http://none ann anderson

        I or anyone, especially Joe the Plumber would of handled the positon much better. Obama has ghost writers and telaprompters, liberals telling him what to do. I believe he is very
        unqualified, look at his thin resume and he never worked a real job (labor) or any job in his life span.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      wow I want to kiss you Ana. :)

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Thank You for speaking out, Ana. GOD bless!

    • Cindy

      VERY well said Ana!

    • DaveH

      Thanks for your input, Ana.

    • PaulthePatriot

      Ana, thank you for showing the Nation it is not about the color of your skin, but the color of your patriotism. Wearing the red, white and blue is what America has been about and should be about. Our blood show be red, white and blue, not black or white. Folks, this is our Country. Where will our miltiary stand if it comes to all you are talking about? One soldier already has been discharged because he spoke against the president in uniform. But the bottom line, God will put into office whom He wants based upon the electorial vote. Nebuchadnezzer lost his postion of power for a time and in Daniel 5:21
      “Then he was driven from the sons of men, his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild donkeys. They fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till he knew that the Most High God rules in the kingdom of men, and appoints over it whomever He chooses.” God will choose will shall be President as the day has come. Read Matthew 24, especially verses 36-39. These are the days we are in. And finally, there will be those skeptics and kingdom will rise against kingdom . . . will America rise against herself? God save America! Our only hope!

  • Floridastorm

    Obama is not one half white and one half black. According to what I have recently read, he is one half white, one quarter black, and one quarter Arab. His father was only partially black. Putting that aside, does Obama look one half white? I don’t think he has any white in him at all. How that happened, one only knows.

    • sesame

      His mother was White. Do the math.

    • Michael

      Arab is an ETHNIC catagorization, not racial. That is like saying someone is not white because they are Italian.

      • Maryland Freestater

        I learned that at the beginning of the 20th century, Italians WEREN’T considered white.

      • eddie47d

        Thank you Maryland. Yes indeed other groups were discriminated against and had to hold their own. Some fought back in unique ways and got beaten for it. The Italians became so bitter they formed the mafia to give pride to their people. Unfortunately they became reckless and violent and hurt their ethnic heritage.

    • cawmun cents

      From top to bottom the guy(Omamba)is gray.
      He aint white and he aint black,and he aint transparent neither.
      He is gray-green……everything is a gray area except his support for Green Energy Parasites.
      Cheers!
      -CC.

  • Indy Grandma

    I don’t like his white half either

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      looks to me his white half was a racist black loving whore.

  • BJ.Holmes

    Anyone who voted for the “Black” president should now consider voting for his “White” half. The “Black” half has done a miserable job.

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    race is an issue with BLACKS;; communism has NO COLOR, but if you support a black man who IS A COMMUNIST it makes YOU A COMMUNIST by association;; it is that simple. How much more of 100% is there if 98% voted for him last time; [2%] is meaningless. 53% of Americans with a brain is all that matters; we the people want him OUT.

    • Malmo Boeung

      Hmmmm.. I like this! Does this mean if I support Obama, I’m black and eligible for Affirmative Action??? ;-)

      • Average Joe

        This is the USA….anything is possible…..just sayin’

  • ReaperHD

    When your Anti-American Commie Trash trying to destroy this Country you won’t get my vote….

  • Scott in SC

    FYI – Gary Johnson will be on Washington Journal (C-span 1) at 8:30 this morning.

  • http://httpaol.com sean murry

    I never liked the SOB.

    • sesame

      Which one and Why?

  • Dwight Mann

    Here is the deal. . . We are all Americans first and foremost. If that bothers you, you need to leave. Speak English, and support the constitution, and judge each person as an individual.
    Ron Paul in 2012 ! ! !

    • Michael

      Well said but not welcome in this far right forum.

      • Average Joe

        Actually Michael, it is quite welcome here.

      • DaveH

        What is Far-Right about seeking Liberty, Michael?
        Are you against Liberty?

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I agree with you, Dwight! I also agree with Martin Luther King when he said ” I dream of the day when man will be judged by the content of his character and not by the color of his skin”. I dream of that day! My daughter in law is half black and I love her dearly! I could not love her more! My grandson is part black and he is the light of my life!!! The color of their skin makes no difference at all! When obummer was running for office I yearned for someone my grandchildren could look up to. I thought that it would be wonderful to step beyond race and really unite people of all races. Alas, I knew that he wasn’t the man for the job. As much as I wanted a black president I just couldn’t vote for this man. I had no idea that he would turn out to be so terrible. I had no idea that he was a communist! He is our worst nightmare. And like Martin Luther King said, he should be judged by the content of his character. He is just plain evil. HE IS EVIL! My greatest hope is that someday Martin Luther King’s dream will come true.

      • Doug

        And Nancy MLK did some things but hate to tell you he was also a Communist!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Doug, I don’t know if that’s true or not and I don’t want to spend the time to research it. He is no threat to us. The threat is in the whitehouse and I KNOW that that man is a communist! I still believe in the quote and dream of the day when man will be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin. If both black people and white people would live by this, we wouldn’t have racism. There are good black people and bad black people. There are good white people and bad white people.

      • JeffH

        Doug, while I can see how you can accuse MLK of being a communist by his many associations, MLK was never a Communist and was always critical of the Soviet Union, he had knowingly surrounded himself with Communists. His closest advisor Stanley Levison was a Communist, as was his assistant Jack O’Dell.
        http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

      • Will CA
    • AR15ready

      Ron Paul would be a good V.P. which would balance the Republician scale to speak. As for President, he is not taken to seriously to gain the votes needed to win. What is needed is someone who will stand up to the Prez. and kick him to the curve. I voted for McCain in ’08, does that make me prejudice? No, I voted for McCain because he is a veteran, just as I am, who served for this country to keep it free for people like yourself that can still voice your opinion without downfall from the government. My personal opinion is; if the prez. is re-elected in November or stays in office due to SHTF, then our freedoms as we currently know them will change for the worst.

  • Malmo Boeung

    The thing i love about our “Black President” is that he is only 6.25% black, whereas George Zimmerman, the “white Hispanic” had a black grandmother making this “white Hispanic” FOUR TIMES as black as our Feckless Leader!!!! Oh, the double standard….

    • Vigilant

      Where do you come up with 6.25%?

      • Malmo Boeung

        50% white and, from his father, the rest is Arab/Semitic, except for the 6.25%, which is black African.

      • Vigilant

        Would you kindly link to a reputable source for that assertion?

    • eddie47d

      Where’s the double standard? Zimmerman killed a human being so what are you Really trying to prove in that statement? Most Americans have gotten over that kind of bias for some time now and don’t make it a full time job bashing blacks or any other minority. The Sharpton’s and David Dukes need to get a real life instead of keeping this country on edge.

    • Michael

      Dude, his mother is white and his father is black so he is 50% white. But that is pretty much irrelevant because he LOOKS black and that is all it takes in America to BE black. That is why HE considers himself to be black. I suggest you read the book “Black Like Me” if you have an open mind.

      • Witsend

        Obama considers himself to be Black because it is to his advantage to do so. He, and his politics, would have received few, if any, votes for President if he were White.

      • DaveH

        I love Thomas Sowell, and he is Black.
        I don’t love Obama, and he is only half-black.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        O is only a symbol for your own blackness since you are so preoccupied with nothing else but the skin color.

  • http://Yahoo Bob Herring

    I am just glad to see there are some black people that are not racist and vote for what’s best for the entire country.

    • Vigilant

      …but that’s only 5% of black voters.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It is a remnant that has any sense.

    • Michael

      Bob, Obama IS best for America. All the talk of him being far left, socialist and communist is the insane paranoid delusions of the far right. Obama is the best president for everyday Americans we have had in 50 years. As far as 95% of blacks voting for Obama – its more idiocy to think they would not be very supportive of the first black presidency. Further, look who he is running against! Romney is clearly the worst Republican to run for president in the modern era. Even other big name Republicans who are endorsing him act like they are getting a root canal. Here is some really bad news for you far righties – most of the thinkers in the Republican party are sure they are going to lose come November. That is why quality Republican leaders like Jeb Bush and Chris Christie didn’t run.

      • Neal

        Nice try Michael. However, we are all watching. We know exactly what Barack has and hasn’t done. This country is in serious trouble.

      • http://Yahoo Bob Herring

        Neal, We just have different views and we disagree. My concern is Mr. Obama believes in Socialism and I am afraid he is going to destroy the American currency. We can not afford to keep spending money we do not have.

      • CJ

        Michael, you are not important enough for us to believe over our own eyes. There is NO valid proof of any claim you make. The liberal concept that ‘if you say it enough, it will be assumed or perceived as true’ doesn’t work on intellectual people.

      • http://Yahoo Bob Herring

        I personally think Christie is big mouth and would be bad for the country. Bush is a Bush and we have had two….your judgement of republicans appear to be bad too.

      • Maryland Freestater

        Michael, there is another – (kinda sounds like a cheezy Star Wars quote!) RON PAUL!! The msm media has totally marginalized him so it looks like Mittley will be the Rep. nominee.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Michael you are full of crap! Boxers on the same team fight each other all the time and can’t stand each other during and up to the event. But you will find them the next week dring together or hanging out at the gym. It is called competition. And Oblamya is being a sore sport with his lies and extortion by promissing free stuff.

      • http://naver samurai

        Way too much kool aid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Doug

        Michael put down the kook aid and stop reading comics and main stream news you mind friend should be the poster child of for a mind is a terrible thing to waste! My cats have more going for them then you do. Anyone who would vote for Obamalanadingdong and Joe I am and Idiot really should have what is remaining of their gray matter sucked out! And next you are going to tell me he is natural born American and was born in this country. Oh and please show me the proof that they killed Osama dummies cousin who died years ago but our government kept him alive to spend our money looking for the boogie man!

      • Patriot II

        Michael; I will pray for your Soul and that you will come to your senses. The Leftists are confused, they think that Capitalism is Bad and Socialism is Good. Are you one of these?

        Jesus was a Capitalist, but he was against Greed! You Find Greed on both sides of the Isle, Greed is Bad, Greed IS sin, and IT ALONE is the culprit here. The only side of the Political arena that seeks to demonize capitalism is the left wing of the Democrats. Hmmm,… whats up with that?

        Greed finds its way into Socialism in the way that is demonstrated now by the Current people who are controlling this President. They are convincing people like you into thinking their way is better in order to exploit you and use you for their own personal Gains and Power. Make no mistake about it. The tragedy is that 50% of the people in this country are dinking their Kool-Aid. If this Deceitful lying Person gets re-elected I will say now, “I told you So” Wake Up Brother before it is too late!

        This current Socialsm movement is exactly how Satan works.

        P.S. those of you who think Jesus was not a Capitalist, better go back and read the Gospels. It is NOT the Central Government’s Job to take care of people in need, it is our job as Individuals to do so one on one and through our local Church Families. Show me where Jesus says Tithe unto your Government! who waste you money. And those of you who spout off about “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” , Jesus meant if you buy into to Caesars Corrupt World of Politicians, (like DC today) and their Greed, then play their game, not his.

        To quote another famous Patriot on here, “For God and Country”

      • Nadzieja Batki

        O is a Marxist/Fascist/Populist/Humanist/Globalist etc., all rolled into one.
        You, Michael, have a difficult time identifying what makes up the character of a man. What a man is comes through by his words and the actions that follow.

      • toptiermentor

        Michael, just because you say Obama is a great president does not make it so. Just because you think he is a great president does not make it true. You may believe it, but you would be wrong. He is OBJECTIVELY the worst president we have ever had. Most agree that he has already surpassed Carter as being the worst in the modern era. There is not a single thing he has done that has been good for our nation as a whole. He is an empty suit, a racist, a liar, a hypocrite and so much more……

      • shavager

        OWEbumbler is the most CORRUPT president of OUR lifetimes, he’s violating Federal and International laws by providing weapons ILLEGALLY to drug cartel murderers in Mexico, he has violated Constitutional law by installing dept. heads WITHOUT Senate confirmation, Senate WAS NOT in recess as REQUIRED BY LAW for recess appointments, he’s violating FEDERAL COURT ORDER to lift the oil moratotium in the Gulf, at a time when CBO has identified at least $430 BILLION in WASTE, FRAUD in duplicative govt. programs, OWEbumbler’s SPENDING $4.2 BILLION PER DAY–TWICE what Bush was spending and nearly 4 TIMES Clinton’s spending. He’s authorized use of military to DETAIN citizens indefinitely without trial–violation of Constitution and Posse Comitatus Act. Some of you just have “chills” up YOUR LEG about this president but that’s primarily because YOU seethe with envy and jealousy against the rich and successful and YOUR ambition to succeed is limited to GOVT CONTROL and TAKING FROM OTHERS TO GIVE TO YOU–Karl Marx’s COMMUNIST mantra in short form. YOU have no ambition for freedom or liberty, YOU are willing to settle for govt. controlled “security” as the driving force of your life, in every corner of the world–this has FAILED miserably and lead to MILLIONS OF DEATHS and MURDERS.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Bob – there are very few out there, but I will say the few there is , are great people. I have several friends that are blacks and they hate, what they call the stupid N-ggers, that lower the equality of their race. Alan West would get my vote and I an white as you can get.

  • Martha

    Obama isn’t black, he’s half white. It’s time for a real black president.

    • Vigilant

      “It’s time for a real black president.”

      No, Martha, it’s time for a president and Congress that take the oath of office literally and seriously. Skin color is irrelevant.

      • Maryland Freestater

        LIKE!

      • Patriot II

        Vigilant; Right!, also the President should be a resident of the United Sates as well!

      • JeffH

        Hear Hear! :)

    • louie1

      Actually, it’s time for a 100% American president. Color really doesn’t mean much, only patriotism and putting our country first and foremost.That’s long overdue.

      Personally, as a white 75 year old Conservative, I believe a good ticket fitting those qualities would be Alan Keyes and Alan West and I don’t give a hang about their colors, only their Americanism. Real defenders of this country have become few and far between and that gray half-breed in the Oval Office is far from being a defender of our country when he’s methodically destroying the Constitution and the laws of the land. He makes me physically ill and I just hope i outlive my illness long enough to see Obama ejected from the White House through our election process. If we can eliminate The Spanish vote counters owned by George Soros. Don’t the Lefties realize how much harm they’ve done to our country themselves and their families by putting the Fraud-in-Chief in office? Horrible.

      • Deerinwater

        “. Don’t the Lefties realize how much harm they’ve done to our country themselves and their families by putting the Fraud-in-Chief in office? Horrible”

        What is horrible is that you fail to recognize the racism in your posting or in Martha’s.

      • http://none ann anderson

        Amen, Color is the outside superficial, it’s whats inside that really counts and if Obummer was white, I still would not of voted for him and his communist, socialist policies and his
        record of freeloading and having a very thin resume.

      • whydoubt

        So, let me get this right – the only way “Black America” could disprove the warped accusation of being wholesale Racist in 2008 would have been to vote AGAINST every logical policy-related argument and support John McCain, so as to be NOT called Racist?

        Obama has done exactly none of the ridiculous things forecast prior to his inauguration; now, equally preposterous vile fear-mongering predictions designed purely to scare voters are being thrown around. Racism is attaching hate to anything Obama, when if he were white, not a single one of these accusations would be out there. He is about as race-neutral as any other Democrat since Jimmy Carter. Go re-read the predictions of 4 years ago, see how none have been realized, then look into your own hearts and ask yourself precisely what evil he has supposedly accomplished in his 4 years. Exactly how, when and where has he been dividing the country?

        You people are insane, missing the realities of who is really feeding the B.S. to you. Take away your stupid, meaningless straw issues like guns, abortions, Obamacare, affirmative action, blah, blah, and you might catch on that your beloved politicians don’t give a crap about you, your rights, your lack of education or a chance to better yourselves. All they want is your votes, to swing elections so THEY can rig the bets. I told everyone 12 years ago that the only thing Bush/Cheney cared about was making sure after 2 terms they and their cronies were richer and didn’t get caught.
        Nothing since has demonstrated I was wrong about anything – every one is richer today, despite illegal, immoral, wholesale sell-outs in every area, but especially to their oil buddies, Cheney’s Halliburton, and all while sacrificing thousands of loyal, patriotic, but gullible and misled sons and daughters serving in the military – oh yeah a disproportionate number of whom are minorities.
        Blame that on Obama and you sure as hell are racist pigs.
        “Enjoy Socialism”, etc. Hey, no, I ENJOY watching dim-witted folks holding Foreclosure sales after they’re bankrupted by the Big Cancer Bills they have because they’re UNINSURABLE. Accidents, illnesses are NOT answerable to prayers, noone deserves to get sick, and cancer can hit the healthiest without prejudice – no racism in disease.

      • Jeff

        Reports of the death of racism have been premature before – in 1865, in 1965, and in 2008.

      • Shavager

        Let me give YOU a dose of YOUR president: BLEW $832 BILLION stimulus promised for JOBS/Shovel ready projects ON CRONIES AND CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS. He BLEW $90 BILLION “green energy” dollars on companies like Solyndra that bundled hundreds of thousands of campaign dollars to him: Solyndra, ENER1, LG Chem, A123, Amonix Solar, First Solar, Solar Trust, SpectraWatt, LSP Energy,Unisolar, Raser Technology,Energy Conversion Devices, Azure Dynamics–ALL BANKRUPT–of top 36 companies he BLEW our money on-21 are BANKRUPT and other 15 ARE ON VERGE OF BANKRUPTCY. HE’S RUNNING GUNS TO MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN LIBYA, SYRIA JUST LIKE HE DID WITH FAST AND FURIOUS–HE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR DEATHS OF AN AMERICAN AMBASSADOR AND 3 OTHERS IN LIBYA–KILLED BY THE SAME MUSLIMS HE’S RUNNING WEAPONS TO!! HE ABANDONED 4 AMERICANS AND WATCHED THEM DIE BEFORE JETTING OFF TO VEGAS FOR MORE CAMPAIGNING AND MONEY!! He GAVE $770 MILLION to MUSLIM COUNTRIES FOR MOSQUES AND COMPUTERS! He’s DRAINING YOUR POCKETS and running up HUGE DEBT–AND YOU GET THE BILL!!

      • Samdromeda

        Bush was right . We have become an ungovernable nation. The people rule. Remember Norman on Star Trek …”You will be controlled because we will serve you.” A well served population is a controlled population.

      • Jeff

        UNCLE BUMBLER:

        Well, you let too many minorities get to the polls and Obama won. I hope this doesn’t stop your enthusiastic fight against the forces of reason and moderation. Don’t take an overdose of cop killer bullets.

      • Shavager

        Jeff, we all know what’s coming–people like you will be crying alligator tears when the reality hits you because YOU won’t believe it. The biggest TAX INCREASE in the history of the world is coming in ’13–you saw the stock market DROP over 300 points because of the election results–just watch it drop WORSE than the ’08 collapse when 5% income tax increases hit in Jan, “sequestration cuts” kick in–yes those “cuts” OWEbama said would not happen–well HE LIED TO AMERICA–sequestration cuts have already been signed into law by OWEbama–they were HIS administration’s proposal–his Office of Budget Management director Jacob Lew was the author of the program, Lew said “We have an idea for the trigger…Sequestration”. AND $585 BILLION IN OTHER NEW TAXES coming next year–just watch the liberal news media who’s been LYING and DEFENDING HIM, start gnashing teeth and wailing in despair–Lockheed Martin is on verge of 123,000 LAYOFFS that OWEbama didn’t want them to announce until after election night and promised he’d USE TAXPAYER money to pay their legal fees FOR VIOLATING FEDERAL LABOR LAWS BY NOT GIVING EMPLOYEES 60 day notice as required by law. He will shut down coal mines and the cost of energy will SKYROCKET!! Remember when he said this in Jan, ’08: “under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates WOULD NECESSARILY SKYROCKET…even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad”. Gas prices will begin to rise again and food prices are set to jump approximately 25%. By 2014 midterm elections, DemocRATS will be an endangered species and the party will be finished for years to come by 2016 elections guaranteeing a GOP majority in Congress and a Tea Party Republican President.

      • Jeff

        UNCLE BUMBLER:

        So the market went down because Obama was re-elected? What ever happened to “buy on the rumor, sell on the news”? I guess that means the market has gone up in recent months because it seemed likely Obama would be re-elected. When the good rumor came to fruition, there was a sell off. Secondly, the drop was largely due to bank stocks. Under Obama’s leadership, the market went from 6,500 to over 13,000. I guess he’s not too toxic to the market.

        Good to see you’re still at it. Would cap and trade increase gas prices? Probably. The real issue is can we afford to continue depending on oil and coal for our energy indefinitely? Even natural gas, while cleaner than oil and coal, releases carbon into the atmosphere. I know that in your bubble climate change is a hoax, but I predict by the time the Bumbler grandchildren inherit the Bumbler Mansion, it may well be under water.

      • Shavager

        Jeff, hate to burst your bubble, scientific studies are finding that emissions from electric cars are just about as bad as those from gasoline or diesel powered engines–and those studies were done in foreign communities where those vehicles dominate the mode of transportation. AND to add to the prediction I TOLD YOU would happen–stock market will always react negatively to a DemocRAT president because the party is anti-business and pro-stifling business regulations—the following companies have LAID OFF workers since the election: Westinghouse Anniston 50 JOBS, Research and Motion Limited–makers of Blackberry smartphones 200 JOBS, Lightyear Network Solutions 12 JOBS, Providence Journal 23 full time JOBS, Hawker Beechcraft CLOSING 3 facilities and loss of 240 JOBS, Boeing REDUCING 30% of employees, CVPH 17 JOBS, U.S. Cellular 980 JOBS, Momentive Performance Materials 150 JOBS, Rocketdyne 100 JOBS, Brake Parts 75 JOBS, Vestas WIND SYSTEMS–WIND TURBINE MAKER 3000 JOBS, Husqvarna AB 600 JOBS, Center for Hospice NY 40 JOBS, Bristol-Meyers Squibb 480 JOBS, OCE North America 135 JOBS, DARDEN RESTAURANTS–CUTTING WORK HOURS to 28 PER WEEK because under OWEbama care–30 HOURS instead of 40–are considered FULL TIME jobs requiring employers to provide insurance, United Blood Services LAYING OFF 10% of Southern region workers. LOCKHEED MARTIN will now LAYOFF 123,000 workers–OWEbama told them NOT to give the FEDERALLY REQUIRED 60 DAY NOTICE before the election to protect HIM–and PROMISED TO GIVE THEM TAX DOLLARS TO PAY THE FINES Lockheed Martin WILL GET FROM VIOLATING FEDERAL LABOR LAWS. The following companies HAVE CLOSED OUT OF BUSINESS THIS WEEK or within the next month: Caterpillar in Owatoma, Minn, Albrecht Sentry Foods in SC, Target–Manassas Va., Target–Kissimee Fla., Target–Colorado Springs, KMART–Homer Glen, Illinois, KMART–Durham NC, Millenium Academy–NC, Andover Gift Shop–Andover Md., Movie Scene–New Hampshire, TE Connectivity–Nashville Tenn, Gomers Fried Chicken in Kansas City, Fresh Market store in Vermont, AGC Glass–Tenn, Roses dept store–NC, Meanders Kitchens–Seattle Wash, Bost Harley Davidson–Nashville Tenn, Townsend Booksellers in Oakland.

      • Jeff

        The stock market always reacts negatively to Democratic Presidents? Based on what – 1 day’s performance following Obama’s re-election? How about looking at the last 100 years, or the last 50, or especially the last 20? The stock market, and the economy as a whole, nearly always does better under Democrats. Compare Bill Clinton to the Bushes or W to Obama. Do you just dream this stuff or is it mainlined from Glenn Beck?

        As for emissions from electric cars, I don’t believe there are any. You’re probably talking about the source of the electricity used to recharge them. Clearly, if coal is the primary source, that’s a problem. But there are certainly much cleaner ways of producing electricity. It’s like saying eating salads won’t help you lose weight if you continue eating pie for dessert.

      • Shavager

        Jeff, stock market has now fallen 700 points since OWEbama re-election, it’s currently 1000 points DOWN from highest point it’s been in past two years. W. Bush AVERAGED nearly 3% AVERAGE GROWTH in economy after a high of 7.1% TWO YEARS after his TAX CUTS fully kicked in. OWEbama has YET to have any maintained GROWTH of 2% or higher. AND I HAVE A NEWS ALERT FOR YOU: 36 OWEbama administration members STILL OWE $833,000+ IN BACK TAXES! That was just RE-reported again on Saturday 11/17.

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        You are a veritable treasure trove of irrelevant information. You must be a lot of fun at parties and great on Jeopardy. You probably know more trivia about the Harding Administration than his own grandchildren. So, the market only went up from 2009 until a month ago because investors were sure Romney would be elected? Markets go up and down. The market will go up again (thanks to Reagan, naturally) and it will go down again (Obama’s fault, of course). Keep slingin’ it Uncle B. It keeps you young.

      • truesoy

        Jeff,

        I don’t write much here anymore, although I do read this blog sometimes just for the amusement. And it is amusing to read some of what it is said here. One thing though, I can’t figure out why in the world are you still going around in circles with Uncle Bumbler, other than for the entertainment he/she (don’t know the gender) provides. Other than that is like chasing one’s tail.
        And Uncle Bumbler will never understand because he can’t.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Jeff

        Truesoy:

        Uncle Bumbler is like a long lost pen pal I rarely hear from. I’ve been on a lot of the other threads here and he’s actually far closer to sane than some others I’ve run across. We had quite a group on the one about the Media not Telling the Truth (I guess about Obama’s birth). These things go far afield and sometimes you find out that someone who appears to be nothing but a right wing wise ass, while still wrong, is actually capable of thought. Yes, it’s mostly for entertainment value.

        I even met Tag, of undefinable age, who was convinced I was accusing Romney of dodging the draft in WWI because I mentioned what he said about the Navy being larger in 1916 than now. I’m thinking of writing a book.

      • truesoy

        Jeff;

        Well, I see your point and, if it is a good pastime that that you enjoy from Bumbler the entertainer, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be good for the soul, however it would be even nicer if Uncle Bumbler was to learn something from it.
        Good hearing from you, again, anyway.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Jeff

        Do you think our Dear Uncle has ventured outdoors since the “unavailability” of George Zimmerman to properly police the neighborhood?

      • truesoy

        Jeff,

        I don’t know if he’ll venture out, but, I wonder if he’ll then wear a ‘hoodi’?

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        What is going on with you Florida Gun Nuts anyway? Another shooting of an unarmed Black kid at a gas station. What was he doing, trying to vote? Or just threatening to do so in 4 years? Is Michael Dunn one of your buddies or does he just escort you to the Senior Center? All these racial shootings. You’re becoming the New Mississippi.

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        The market went up 270 points today. Must be because Paul Ryan is still a Congressman, huh?

      • Jeff

        UNCLE BUMBLER:

        Did you notice the market went up 100 points today? Don’t investors understand the Bumbler Theory? What a surprise – wrong again!!!

      • Jeff

        UNCLE BUMBLER:

        Have you noticed the market has gone up quite a bit lately? It must be because Reagan was once President and we’ll someday have another Republican in office. I hope nothing’s happened to my favorite uncle. Your witty (even if irrelevant) repartee always brightened the day.

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        Are you still alive? If not, hope you “remembered” me in your will. You’ll be happy to know the Dow just passed 14,000. I guess everyone in the market agrees with Dick Morris that Romney won the election?

      • Shavager

        YEAH, Jeff go ahead–make our day–INVEST ALL YOUR MONEY in this stock market–it’s on a FAKE RECOVERY–buoyed ONLY by the Q3 Federal Reserve money–The BOTTOM’s COMING later this year–FEDS can’t keep printing money–ever heard of inflation–well what’s coming is STAGFLATION–collapse of the U.S. dollar value. OWEbama is SO DESPERATE for China to keep LOANING money–he’s allowing them to take over federal property in U.S. for trade empowerment zones–they will be setting up CHINESE businesses with Chinese people in these areas. He’s also reversed a 2005 Bush Executive order DENYING China investments in U.S. energy market–China NOW OWNS 33% INVESTMENTS in OIL RIGHTS IN FEDERAL PROPERTIES in Wyoming, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Ohio, and Michigan though Devon and Chesapeake Energy companies. China also bought Canadian energy company, Nexen Inc. and their deepwater drilling technology as well as THEIR RIGHTS TO DRILL IN U.S. WATERS IN THE GULF–so while OWEbama continues to VIOLATE Federal Court orders against his moratorium–China will be drilling U.S. oil in U.S. waters and shipping it to China. Yeah, blubber some mo’ about your muslim president. Remember “Fast and Furious”?–he’s RUNNING GUNS TO SINOLOA drug cartel in Mexico through CIA and ATF–he LIED and Americans and Mexicans DIED. Benghazi-gate? He’s RUNNING GUNS TO MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN Benghazi and Syria to overthrow the Bashar Assad government running Syria. I CALL IT TREASON–YOU can read it for yourself in Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. LOOK IT UP!

      • Samdromeda

        As T.Bone Pickins said when his fresh water pipeline is in place “You won’t have any water.” We get to drink the toilet water. The guy in Ohio who invented the car engine that ran on water is mysteriously dead and so is his son. There is plenty of water on the planet. Do we really need a fossil fuel based economy or is it a cash flow problem? A message is being sent..”Don’t mess with our game or you will feel the pain.” They did not like stainless steele cars and they do not like technologies that put the oil barons out of business. This is what the scriptures is talking about, in reference to our time, when it says…”Hurt not the wine and the oil.” Dependence on oil is “Good for business.” But it is not entirely necessary.

      • Jeff

        Uncle Rip van Bumbler:

        And yet he’s likely to win Florida. I guess you’ll have to redouble your efforts to suppress the vote. Remember, hassle ANYONE whose skin is darker than yours. Maybe they’ll go home rather than deal with an old Bumbler like you. Start spewing some “facts” at them. Tell them Obama’s a socialist whose endorsed by Colin Powell, Mayor Bloomberg, and The Economist, all of whom know more about the economy than some Old Bumbler from Florida.

  • Power To The People

    Actually there is only one race….the human race. There are color differences of skin pigment. So if almost all people of one skin pigment vote for the candidate of the same….or similar skin pigment….maybe its bias??

    What ever…..in our double standard country, one pigment class has a right to do this while the lighter pigment class does not. Go figure.

    • Vigilant

      “What ever…..in our double standard country, one pigment class has a right to do this while the lighter pigment class does not. Go figure.”

      In the voting booth, the “lighter pigment class” has just as much right to select a candidate as any class.

  • MAP

    Well Chip, since you see through the racism hoax, with its double standards and absurd contradictions, I suspect you will not be voting for Obama. You, obviously, have intelligence beyond that of the ameba or liberal, which is to say the same thing.

    • Maryland Freestater

      PLEASE refrain from insulting single-celled Americans! They have feelings too!!

    • truesoy

      Yep, I would have never known there is no racism here had you not told me so. And you are not a racist, either, right?.
      By the way, have you noticed how beautiful a day is in wonderland?

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

  • newspooner

    We must destroy the culture of racism. Start by getting rid of the racist questions on the Federal Census. Continue by ridding all government documents and licenses of all references to race in identification (e.g. the federal firearms purchasing forms), and wrap it up by totally abolishing “affirmative action” and any other government programs that use race as any kind of qualifier, identifier, categorizer, or quota determiner.

    Individual racism is bad. Institutional racism is worse. Governmental racism is the worst of all.

    Have you ever noticed that Libertarians are the least racist of any associaton of people?

    • Vigilant

      “Have you ever noticed that Libertarians are the least racist of any associaton of people?”

      And upon what research study/poll/statistical analysis do you base that statement?

      • Maryland Freestater

        I’m a card-carrying Libertarian and I canand WILL state that with impunity!

        Much of our racial problems were created by Dem. Pres. and ‘progressive’ Woodrow Wilson, the Godfather of the UN (League of Nations) when, in 1911, Wilson revoked the rights of Black Americans and institutionalized James Crow – forbade blacks from serving in the military except in menial roles (cook, ship’s steward) and marginalized them in all aspects of life.

        Libertarians don’t give a hoot about skin color, and would have done away with anything which marginalized Black people. I myself would make Maryland a meritocracy and a color blind stste – ‘quotas’ and ‘minority set asides’ both send the message that nonwhites (or ‘blacks’) aren’t good enough to compete with white people (or any others for that matter) and that’s still tatamount to telling dark-skinned people they’re inferior: set-asides invite corruption and waste because some company should not win the bid just because the ownership is minority if their product is shoddy.

        I have personal experience with both of the last two conditions I’ve mentioned. So while I’m NOT citing CATO for why I believe and think Libertarians to be nonracist, I’ve never met one, at least here in Maryland or reading about Libertarian issues, to show a hint of racism.

        Same for sexism – Libertarians regard sexuality as a personal matter which the gov’t has no right poking its nose into at any and all levels; parents need to make choices on how to raise their children. Don’t like gay marriage, well, don’t marry a Gay!

        Finally, don’t confuse prejudice with reacism – not the same. I am one of the MOST prejudiced people I know, yet the least racist simultaneously. I judge people according to their actions, not their paint jobs. If your actions say one is an a$$hole, then you’re an a$$hole and stay away from me ‘cos you have bad breath. Then if one is a decent human being, well I’m hip with that and we can be friends.

      • ash splinter

        Vigilant- I guess libertarians aren’t racist as a whole-Just Ron Paul & his son Rand.

      • DaveH

        Ash, I would have to qualify your remark as an outright Lie, since I can’t believe that even an ignorant Liberal could innocently believe that.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFPMNDIbGJ8

        The truth is that Big Government Leaders has been using the Race Issue to get elected at the expense of the Blacks since at least the Civil War. By passing legislation favoring certain minorities they just create resentment among the non-favored classes, and that intensifies and prolongs Racism.
        And by “protecting” Blacks (or women, or other minorities) the Government actually keeps them from bettering themselves and striving to succeed which results in their being captured by poverty and the misery that results from being dependent on the Dole.
        If not for meddling Politicians, there is no doubt in my mind that our racial problems would now be mostly non-existent.
        I believe that most of the Leaders could care less about Blacks, they just want their votes.

    • Malmo Boeung

      I listed my race as “American” on the last census. Bleep them!!!!

      • newspooner

        That was good on your part. Other clever responses to that racism might include “human” or “GFY!”.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        when asked “SEX” I alwasy write “not since Thelma Lou left town” LOL

      • JeffH

        :) Ditto that on my census form also.

      • http://none 1 Son of Liberty

        That’s what I am “American”. What if all of a sudden we had Polish Americans, German Americans, Irish Americans, Greek Americans, Mexican Americans and lets not forget White Hispanics…..LOL. We don’t have enough months to go around for every possibility. Maybe Black history month should only be a week. In the scheme of things compared to other races that have contributed for thousands of years to be fair they should only get one day for the two hundred years they have sometimes contributed to. Romans, Greeks, Persians Spaniards and other ancient races surely have much more history and have contributed to higher mathematics, astrology and the arts. Two hundred years is a drop in the bucket compared to contributions of other races. Fair is Fair but not with Affirmative Action stopping equality.

    • CJ

      Unfortunately for your ‘head in the sand’ perspective, racial demographics are necessary to prove or disprove racial bias isn’t taking place. Without it, there would be more accusations of racism, not less. You can’t have it both ways. Racism is in the attitudes of people, not the statistics.

      • newspooner

        Nonsense! Stop apologizing for racism.

      • DaveH

        We can’t have a “color blind” society, as MLK advocated, if we are constantly reminded of our differences by Power-seeking Big Government Leaders.

      • JeffH

        DaveH…exactly right!

    • Anastasia Beaverhouser

      lol-you live in a dream world……race is asked on many documents because it is a description of the person….so on important documents we need this. Who isn’t proud of what race they are? In your line of thinking then the male/female part should be slashed from all documents also.

      • newspooner

        Nonsense! Descriptions can be tallied without categorizing by race. Don’t apologize for racism.

    • Flashy

      “Have you ever noticed that Libertarians are the least racist of any associaton of people?”

      then the vast majority of posters on this board aren’t Libertarians …

      • Paul B.

        You just can’t help yourself Flashy from pushing that racism button. I believe it is a component of your genetics. You Rev Sharpton have a lot in common… di you school together???

      • Flashy

        Merely pointing out the obvious. I didn’t bring it up, just stating the obvious result …

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Why are you on this site. I don’t understand why anybody reads or responds to your inane posts.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Capitalist – Flashy has stated a few times now that he is here because he is paid to do “research” for his job …… and you’re right he is kind of a goof – but proves why we aren’t impressed with the left with each of his posts.

      • eddie47d

        Flashy hit the nail on the head again! Great aim!

      • DaveH

        Perhaps, Flashman, you could show us how you come to the conclusion that the “vast majority” of the posters on this board are racist?
        Until that unlikely event, I will call you a liar and a slanderer. Yeah, I know, so what’s new?

      • Deerinwater

        That’s the unusual nature of bigotry, the inflicted are the last ones to know, assuming they might ever know.

        This oblivious nature makes bigotry a hard nut to crack. Chip’s thread is predicated on the oblivious nature of bigoted racism, metering the time that it might raise it ugly head like he was waiting on a train to arrive at the depot.

  • Harold Olsen

    Not voting for a candidate because of their race IS racism. And, there are many people in this country who will not vote for Obama because he is black. The trouble is, many of us won’t vote for him because of his policies and his seeming goal of destroying America. Black people vote for him because he is black. And THAT is just as racist as a white person not voting for him because he’s black.

    Obama is a racist and has played the race card numerous times. Such as screaming racism when his policies are criticized. Sure, he may not be doing it personally but he has numerous surrogates doing it for him. If he loses this year, I would not be one bit surprised if he screams racism and files a lawsuit to have the election overturned and he declared the winner, citing he was voted out of office because of his race and a person can not be denied a job based on race.

    However, I don’t really believe we will be having an election in November. I’m expecting an October surprise from Obama. That October surprise will be a manufactured crisis that he will use as an excuse to declare martial law and find it necessary to “postpone” the election. The trouble is, the postponment will be permanent because I do not believe Obama plans on leaving office as long as he’s alive. He now has the power and he is not planning on giving it up.

    • eddie47d

      You can think what you want and I believe you are 100% wrong on the elections being cancelled. That you by saying that are spreading racial fear. If he is defeated he will leave office like any other President unless one of your extremists buddies want him to leave feet first. Yes that is blow back for you to chew on since that is exactly what has been mentioned by commenter’s in the past.

      • http://Yahoo Bob Herring

        Lets stop talking Black and White….lets talk and vote on the issues….even if we do not agree…that is ok.

      • Phil

        Racism:? Minorities and stupids will get this muslim re-elected, maybe. Most of them lead such hum-drum existences that they need something, anything, to obsess over.
        Got to take a stance somehow, somewhere, for something. And voting for the muslim makes “me feel good”. Hows that for an informed intelligent political viewpoint??

      • DaveH

        I wonder what it’s like to have such an illogical mind?
        Eddie says — “You can think what you want and I believe you are 100% wrong on the elections being cancelled. That you by saying that are spreading racial fear”.
        What? What does Harold thinking the elections might be canceled have to do with spreading racial fear, Eddie?

      • JeffH

        DaveH, I’m sure you know what a Yogi-ism is(Yogi Berra)…”it ain’t over ’til it’s over”. Well, the ignorant liberals are stuck with eddie-ism’s…or should I say…they can’t be fixed, theirs is forever.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

      • http://msn sophillyjimmy

        Why would he leave office fet first eddie, he will do nothing if he loses except pack up to return to Chicago or to his country of birth Kenya.

        If anyone wants to start a problem as long as they leave my family, me and my home alone, they could do what they want but involve me and I have something waiting for them and I am one hell of a shot, and I don’t hold a pistol sideways so stray bullets hit innocent kids nearby.

      • eddie47d

        Thanks Jimmy you just proved my point.

      • louie1

        Yes, I’ve heard that before – about Bush from my very radical, flaming Liberal brother. I told him and I’ll tell you that death threats against a president are far more predominate coming from Liberals than Conservatives and much more frequent from hateful, vitriolic Libs. Shame on you, you foolish, brainwashed child.

      • Deerinwater

        It should be easy enough to prove without lying about it then. You have make the statement, now it time for you to prove it.

        Otherwise, your argument is employing the “My daddy is bigger the your daddy” approach to supporting it’s self.

    • sesame

      You need to get your hunch-meter adjusted.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

        I don’t have a hunch meter, I have the Word of God and He knows all, is all and the little gods can do what ever, won’t happen, God wins, everytime, Israel attacked 5 times, win them all without the weapons to fight back and you think you know all and are all, I laugh and cry because of your self godhood that will never win, will never solve anything and will bring about destruction like you have never seen or hope to see, your self godhood, your lack of real brain power will destroy you and all you think you know.

    • CJ

      Harold, I’m with you. I’ve said for some time that I expect a major event where ‘some official’ will demand a ‘postponement’ of several things, election included, because it will ‘be unwise to change leaders in the middle of a crisis.’ I also believe that a correction of a poor outcome for Obama, based on racist assumptions for the loss, would be as racist an event to force us to accept him. Fortunately the Bush election didn’t set the president of courts reversing an election results.

      • vanessa

        CJ they kept counting the votes over and over again and Bush was leading in every count. Sooner or later you just have to give it up. Im not a Bush fan but if Algore had been pres. we would have ALREADY been living in tents with no electricty.

    • nc

      Harold, You say Obama is “seeming to be out to destroy America”.Do you have any idea how long your argument has been going on that Democrats in the White House will “destroy America” because they are socilalist? Only since FDR. 80 years. 7 Democrat Presidents who, not only DID NOT ruin our America, but helped keep it number one in the world. AND THEIR RECORD WITH MANAGING OUR FREE MARKET SOCIETY IS PLAINLY SET OUT AT “BULLS, BEARS DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” GO SEE WHERE OUR AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE EARNED ABOUT 41% MORE ON STOCK INVESTMENTS DURING DEMOCRAT ADMISITRATIONS THAN THE REPUBLICANS ADMINSTRATIONS SINCE 1929! DOES THAT APPEAR THAT SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN BAD FOR OUR ECONOMY? EVEN TAKING OVER IN THE MIDST OF OUR SECOND WORST ECONOMY. OBAMA HAS PRESIDED OVER THE DOW RISING FROM 6547 TO OVER 13000. THE STOCK MARKET LOVES THE DEMOCRATS! ALWAYS HAS! RIGHT?????? THE FIGURES ARE THERE ! GO SEE THEM.

      You are predicting no elections in Nov. due to an Obama take over, Mr Livingston is predicting a big move by Dr. Paul in the Republican search, others here are digging holes in the ground and prepping for all kind of doomsday events. What do think the odds are than any of the events predicted here at Paranoid Central will take place?? How many devout Christians have seen the coming of days in EACH OFTHE YEARS since the Bible came into print in the 1500s?? Makes one wonder where people get their information and how much kool aid was involved! Doesn’t it??

      • CJ

        NC, your conclusion takes the assumption that elections are between good and bad choices, when in fact, most are a choice of the lesser of two evils. It can not be assumed that the unchosen candidate would have done a better job when the winner turns out to have bad consequences, and the opposite conclusion is just as irresponsible.

      • DaveH

        So NC shouts out that “THEIR [Democrats] RECORD WITH MANAGING OUR FREE MARKET SOCIETY”.
        As if shouting somehow makes him right.
        Right off the bat, I can see that NC doesn’t have a clue because we haven’t had anything close to free markets since the Progressives took over in the late 19th century.
        For those who would like to be more knowledgeable than people like NC:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • Dave

        The economy (good or bad) has much more to do with the control of congress than it does with who happens to be President. The economic gains of the late 1990′s had much more to do with the Republican Congress and luck (the ad\vent of the internet) than it did with Clinton;s attempts to derail it. Obama has done more to damage the US economy than any of his predecessors. If he has another 4 years as a lame duck, he will sink it!

      • DaveH

        And again he lists his “BULLS, BEARS DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” citation, as if the New York Times biased compilation somehow proves that Democrats are good for the economy:
        http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/10/14/opinion/20081014_OPCHART.html
        Note that I am aware that the Republican Leaders as well as the Democrat Leaders are misleading the citizens, and in fact both groups are (in conjunction with their Crony Capitalists who help get them re-elected) taking advantage of the rest of us with their Market Interventions.
        There are at least 3 glaring problems with that biased article:
        1) It takes time for austerity methods to become fruitful. The Republicans could simply be doing the right things — tightening up on the purse strings — which results in financial pain for many that then (due to ignorant voters) results in them getting replaced by Democrats. About that time, the measures have started to result in Prosperity, just in time for Democrats to claim the credit. And Vice-Versa.
        2) The author of the article completely leaves out which party was controlling Congress during those years. How convenient, since Congress is responsible for passing the Spending Bills. For those who would like to see the makeup of Congress since 1855:
        http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html
        3) What kind of Republicans were they? For instance, even the author of the article makes this disclaimer — “As of Friday, a $10,000 investment in the S.& P. stock market index* would have grown to $11,733 if invested under Republican presidents only, although that would be $51,211 if we exclude Herbert Hoover’s presidency during the Great Depression”.
        But Herbert Hoover was a Big Time Progressive. You would know that, NC, if you read “A History of Money and Banking in the US” which I provided a link for.
        And Bill Clinton who was credited with the largest increase had a majority Republican Congress for the last 6 years of his 8 year term.

      • DaveH

        Oops, I put two links in my comment, and got bit by the “Awaiting Moderation”, so I will break it into 2 pieces.
        And again NC lists his “BULLS, BEARS DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” citation, as if the New York Times biased compilation somehow proves that Democrats are good for the economy:
        http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/10/14/opinion/20081014_OPCHART.html
        Note that I am aware that the Republican Leaders as well as the Democrat Leaders are misleading the citizens, and in fact both groups are (in conjunction with their Crony Capitalists who help get them re-elected) taking advantage of the rest of us with their Market Interventions.
        Comment continued below.

      • DaveH

        There are at least 3 glaring problems with that biased article:
        1) It takes time for austerity methods to become fruitful. The Republicans could simply be doing the right things — tightening up on the purse strings — which results in financial pain for many that then (due to ignorant voters) results in them getting replaced by Democrats. About that time, the measures have started to result in Prosperity, just in time for Democrats to claim the credit. And Vice-Versa.
        2) The author of the article completely leaves out which party was controlling Congress during those years. How convenient, since Congress is responsible for passing the Spending Bills. For those who would like to see the makeup of Congress since 1855:
        http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html
        3) What kind of Republicans were they? For instance, even the author of the article makes this disclaimer — “As of Friday, a $10,000 investment in the S.& P. stock market index* would have grown to $11,733 if invested under Republican presidents only, although that would be $51,211 if we exclude Herbert Hoover’s presidency during the Great Depression”.
        But Herbert Hoover was a Big Time Progressive. You would know that, NC, if you read “A History of Money and Banking in the US” which I provided a link for.
        And Bill Clinton who was credited with the largest increase had a majority Republican Congress for the last 6 years of his 8 year term.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        that is very true DaveH,and W had a 100% democratic congress his last 2 years iin office. In fact democrats have had the purse srtings more than republicans for the past 100 years plus. That is the reason we are in the big trouble we are in.

      • independant thinker

        I would say we have between 75%-95% chance of an “event” shortly before the election. While I do not go so far as saying that “event” will be used as an excuse to postpone or cancel the elections It definately would be used to promote keeping obama in office because “we need continuity of leadership”.

      • shavager

        The stock market fell so much under Bush because of the mortgage collapse of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac mortgage giants that are DemocRAT created, DemocRAT controlled and collapsed under DemocRAT controlled Congress. Bush had ZERO to do with the collapse–Sen Chris Dodd and Rep Barney Frank in House LIED to America about the financial consequences looming even as BUSH was warning in ’06 and ’07 before the collapse came in ’08. DemocRATS forced banks and financial institutions to give NO downpayment, NO CREDIT mortgage loans to low income and ILLEGALS. When the recession started with skyrocketing gas prices, it triggered interest rate increases and crashed the economy over foreclosures and losses to mortgage industry and financial institutions. That’s NOT BUSH’S BABY–that’s a DemocRAT baby that OWNS 97% of mortgages nationwide.

      • shavager

        Nc,FDR gave America ten years of depression with his huge spending programs, even his own advisors admitted later that it was a mistake. LBJ gave us the Great Society and HUGE welfare society–took the Social Security retirement plan and “transformed” it into a TAX-giving the DemocRAT Congress authority to “steal” SS contributions and spend it in the general revenue. Carter gave the U.S. 2 1/2 years of RECESSION, a failed presidency that foreign enemies saw as WEAK and encouraged the Mullahs to overthrow the Shah of Iran and take 66 Americans hostage for 444 days till the fear of Reagan made them release the prisoners immediately upon Reagan’s election. Don’t you remember: “what’s black and white and glows at night?” The answer: “Iran after Reagan becomes president.” Carter gave us the worst recession since the FDR depression–10-12% inflation rates, 12%+ UNEMPLOYMENT, 21% INTEREST RATES till Reagan cut INCOME TAXES and nearly doubled federal revenues during a time of growth and prosperity that is the HIGHEST in the 20th century. Clinton listened to his economic advisors in first term, left the economy alone for most part, middle of second term decided Washington could SPEND YOUR TAX DOLLARS BETTER THAN YOU COULD–raised income taxes and put the U.S. into a Recession by fall of 2000. W. Bush came in and cut INCOME TAXES in 2001 and business taxes in ’03–America saw second HIGHEST period of economic growth in 20th century behind Reagan’s. Some people sure have SHORT memories–I remember the 32 hour work weeks during Carter’s term when companies in construction in N.Fla. depended on 50 hour work weeks to make any money. Employees had to choose between family healthcare plans and groceries, long gas lines, buying gas on every other day based on street addresses being even/odd numbers. This president is an economic DISASTER, not because he’s unqualified and ZERO in experience, but because he is a protege of Francis Fox Piven’s strategy to COLLAPSE our economic system under HUGE WELFARE DEBT–he’s got the HIGHEST WELFARE/FOODSTAMP LEVELS IN U.S. HISTORY NOW!

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        shavager, I remember those days to and I like your comments. What I remember was enjoying my children and being a Scout Master and working and making a decent living under the Reagan and Bush administrations. Somehow, the federal government, while a source of irritation, had not yet become the threat to our freedoms that the government poses today.

      • Deerinwater

        “shavager, I remember those days to and I like your comments. What I remember was enjoying my children and being a Scout Master and working and making a decent living under the Reagan and Bush administrations. Somehow, the federal government, while a source of irritation, had not yet become the threat to our freedoms that the government poses today.”

        If you only understood the “implications” of what you are saying “Katrael” it would fix a lot of what ills you.

        I remember those days Reagan and H Bush and early W Bush days as well but not it the same way. All of my friends did well at Lockheed, Bell, Chace Volt, water dept. fireman, school teachers, city and state employee while the private sector suffered greatly.

        There was enough government money floating about, the outcry from the private sector was muted by those who enjoyed the status quo. We were simply labels as under achieving malcontents with our complaints that something was seriously wrong.

        We watched on as our friends bought lake property, boats and threw weekend parties, skiing the river. ~ invited along, I did what I could, contributing 20 gallons of gas, a case of beer and food previsions but there was no way that I could keep up with my friends as they lived large and had a grand old time.

        For a night out, there were limo’s $350.00 , $250.00 bar taps being common. Many Americans did truly enjoy a good life while the private sector watch on. We had to shop at the same stories and pay the same price they paid while their income was doubled ours and sometime tripled.

        I remember how “good” it was for some people. It went a good 25 years that way and for a select few, it still goings on today.

        That is took so much time for this “darkness” to reach your door step, you should be thankful. But what we see is you judging your own affairs as indicative of what all good solid citizens have had to come to grips with at this moment~ while you’ve been on a government money skate for the last 15 years.

        It been only in the last 5 years my friend have witnessed this same darkness that graced my door 30 years ago.

        I would not expect you to enjoy it much. I surely didn’t, but I have manged to live with it by scaling down my hopes and dreams and some serious down sizing. In a way it’s a blessing of sorts, ~ you learn want is truly important in life and what is really worth keeping.

        I hated loosing the woman and her children I loved dearly and the house but She seemed unable to adjust to the circumstance that was out of my control. It took 7 years to get a grip on what happened and a new attitude and today I’m better for it. While I seriously doubt if she is any better off or any happier then the day she left.

        She had been replaced, 4 times since then and I would change it for the world, while I still miss the kids.

        So I do feel your pain my friend but this isn’t about you or I but a nation of people that has entrusted leadership to the wrong people going back several years.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, there you go again accusing somebody of something without a shred of evidence to prove yourself anything but a liar. First, lets address this issue: you said, “All of my friends did well at Lockheed, Bell, Chace Volt, water dept. fireman, school teachers, city and state employee while the private sector suffered greatly.” If anything you only prove my point about the government. These people who worked for these that you listed then have benefited from a system that this big government created while it stole from everybody else to finance these people’s lifestyle. And you want bigger government who will only steal more? And I never said who was responsible for my good life back then. I did not give credit to anyone I only said that it was during those days of Reagan/Bush that my life was economically more comfortable. I of course can’t speak about everybody’s circumstances. There can be no doubt that a dollar then bought more than a dollar does today. I’ve lived for 35 years in a rural agricultural part of west central Georgia and in one of the poorest counties in the country and life there was probably as good as it could have been during those years. I worked for fifteen years for a private company who paid my wages during that time. I also ran a business and helped work the family farm.

        Next issue, and this is the one that makes you a liar: You said, “But what we see is you judging your own affairs as indicative of what all good solid citizens have had to come to grips with at this moment~ while you’ve been on a government money skate for the last 15 years.” I never mentioned other people I was merely agreeing with somebody about how my life was back then and I never made a judgement about anybody else so what you said is a complete fabrication. Also, how in the world can you say that I’ve, “been on a government money skate for the last fifteen years.”? That also is a complete fabrication and therefore a lie and told to mislead others reading your reply which makes you a liar.

        The rest of your post, while a tear jerker, is not relevant to anybody but you. You seem to want to blame everybody else for your misfortune while not taking any responsibility. I don’t know anything about you but what you’ve written and it’s been my experience with people that they are rarely totally innocent. Maybe you are but there’s no way to know.

        Finally, I wake up every morning praising YHWH for my blessings. I don’t feel like my life has been cursed. What I see looming, even knocking at my door, is a government that wants to enslave it’s people including me and my family. It wants to tell me and a host of other good people that we can’t teach our children how to farm. You know, that food you eat may come from one of those farms. It wants to destroy our right to decide how we will get our healthcare and force us to become a part of it’s tyrannical system. The evil criminal government wants to turn our families and neighbors into snitches and stooges to inform it of when we may be breaking any of it’s monstrous mountain of immoral and evil laws. There is far more wrong with the system than anyone could post on this site but I’ve taken a small swipe at pointing out some of the evils of our system.

      • Deerinwater

        “And you want bigger government who will only steal more? And I never said who was responsible for my good life back then. I did not give credit to anyone I only said that it was during those days of Reagan/Bush that my life was economically more comfortable.”

        First off, I was not singling you out Katrael, ~ You have done that, not I.

        And when did I ever say that I wanted bigger Government? That is something you have assigned me. Next to 30 % of my fellow countrymen, my single biggest enemy is government.

        I want more responsible government.

        You have taken an adversarial turn because you did not approve if my personal testimony. I understand your disapproval, I didn’t like it much either, it really wasn’t very flattering in the way some people have been so slow to wake up and hear the wolf scratching at their door and act alarmed by his presence so near while he’s been chewing on their neighbor for years and it was ignored ~ thinking the neighbors had it coming or was lacking in some way.

        No! That not very flattering and doesn’t impress me much when I hear people sounding the alarm that something is seriously wrong a good 20 years too late.

        And now , today I’m suppose to listen to what you have to say? ~ Why is that?

        How can you now be that clever? When you didn’t even sense there was a problem until it can a knocking 25 years later at your door?

        I don’t hold it against you, if the roles were reversed it might well be much the same.

        But you really do need to understand ~ you are LATE with your “alarm”.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, you used a pronoun of the second person singular or plural that is directed to the one or ones being addressed. In other words you choose to lie again about your posting not being directed at me. You said, “That is took so much time for this “darkness” to reach your door step, you should be thankful. But what we see is you judging your own affairs as indicative of what all good solid citizens have had to come to grips with at this moment~ while you’ve been on a government money skate for the last 15 years.”

        Again you have proven yourself to be a liar.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, again I should have waited until I read more of your post because you said that it is my false belief that you don’t want more and bigger government. Here’s the next part in your latest post to me: ” I want more responsible government. ” Again you show yourself to be a liar.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, I’m not going to let you get away with your deceptions. I originally posted my comment to someone else who I was in agreement with and merely made the point about my perception. You chose, as was your right, to respond to me and since then you’ve been double talking and posting outright lies. It’s you that said you play the devils advocate and not I so now I know that the devil and those who speak for him are liars and that is the devils stock and trade…lies. Live in your filth.

      • Deerinwater

        You frame a single lie or deception that I have made and we can discuss it, ~ How does that sound? Until then, we are done here.

        I’ve other matters to address and under time restrictions for absurd nonsense.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, thank you for admitting this: “You frame a single lie or deception that I have made and we can discuss it, ~ How does that sound? Until then, we are done here. I’ve other matters to address and under time restrictions for absurd nonsense.” Is it absurd nonsense to address the lies that someone makes and to call them out for them? And what’s to discuss? Not only did you admit to lying but you admit to being the devils mouthpiece then you lied about how many times you did lie. Do I have to dig up your posts to remind you about the frequency of your lying? It would appear that this propensity toward your lying is pathological in nature?

        I harbor no ill will toward you but I feel that it is my duty to inform others that you should not be trusted, even your comrades who like your rhetoric. I don’t feel that you should wonder whether I’ll respond directly to you anymore but only to address anything you post about me or others that I know is a direct lie. I hope you can find peace in that twisted life of your?

      • Deerinwater

        There is no “admitting” Sir, you have been asked to frame your “allegations” for discussion or there will be no discussion of lies and deception. You have been called out and refuse the challenge.

        You are clearly 100% Republican Katrael regardless what you elect to label yourself today. That you hide in the company of shape shifters and dot connectors today makes you one of common garden variety and nothing unique at all but quite banal and trite.

        You are not fooling anyone here. In the last 30 years it’s been made clearly obvious that the GOP and their supporters has the capability to fabricate allegation of lies, wrong doing and misconduct faster them they can be debunked. We are not falling for your diversion.

        You can frame it or you are just talking out your backside. Unable to dazzle with brilliance , you attempt to baffle with bull4hit. My most flattering term for you would be simply a “Rancher” that enjoys shoveling manure.

    • Maryland Freestater

      God I hope you’re wrong about that! I really really hope Obama doesn’t try doing something like that: and if he does, the American populace needs to stage a Million-armed-Man March on 1600 Pennsylvania: That’s the ONLY way getting rid of an Emperor Obama would work.

      From some of the things I’ve been seeing on YouTube, I’m beginning to believe some of the ‘conspiracy theories’ regarding planetary realities I’ve seen – this latest on the federal persecution of Sheriff Arpaio for enforcing laws the gov’t won’t. Was Breitbart murdered? Agenda 21?? Obama and his czars have to go, lest America does because we won’t survive as a nation and culture if he gets reelected or suspends the constitution.

      And as far as the ‘racism’ theme today, well I guess add me to the ranks of racist – I REFUSE to vote for Obama ‘cos he’s RED.

      • ralph herman

        In the south we had a term “high yellow’ for mixed race people,not red that was a native american.So all of you chicked littles run ,run the sky is falling but only if the American Talaban that is the republican party wins anything.My family is working again and how is that bad.FOUR MORE YEARS OF PROGRESS AND TAX THE GREEDY RICH WHO DON’T REINVEST IN THIS COUNTRY.

      • Paul B.

        Poor Ralph… Red as in Communist. DOH.

      • http://msn sophillyjimmy

        Well put Frestater.

    • vanessa

      Yes you are right. I just heard something this morning that originated from law enforcement that stated marshall law will be coming this summer.

      • vanessa

        My reply was to Harold hes got it totally right.

      • Paul B.

        Not sure about that, but if it does, I wouldn’t be surprised it if isn’t created by the Progressive Movement OWS. They are already gearing up of major disruptions across the country this summer, once all their little minions get out of school.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Paul, they’re going to hit us on many fronts. The occupiers will create social unrest. We’ll have race riots when the Zimmerman verdict comes in. The economy is about to crash. They’re trying to stir up more terrorism. They’re covering all of their bases. Martial law is coming. Which excuse will they use? Who knows? It’s all about them being able to control us. It won’t stop at trying to control crime and unrest. It is about utter control over all of us. Here is a quote from “Jesus Christ Superstar”. “They only need a small excuse to put us all away.”

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      The idea that we won’t be having an election is not yours alone. A lot of people are concerned about the same thing. In fact there’s an article going all over the Internet about a secret source at the department of homeland security saying that they are expecting and preparing for a civil war. And this source says that he’s not sure there will be an election. I’ll post a link to one article but it’s all over. If you want to google it, go ahead.

      http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/we-are-preparing-for-massive-civil-war-says-dhs-informant/question-2635869/

      • http://msn sophillyjimmy

        All of these things could become a reality Nancy but as long as the 2nd amendment stands all of these tyrants will see the rest of America ready to take them on, and there are allot more of us then them so I say bring it on if that is what you want, we will have something for them.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        My Dad always taught me, as long as there was a gun registry, all the enemy had to do was get the list. Then they would know exactly where to go to confiscate all the weapons. Now, I’d like to think that people are not going to let anyone take their weapons but if a team similar to a SWAT team shows up at your house, you will not be able to stop them. You might be able to shoot a few of them but you will be dead too and they got your guns. So much for the revolution.

    • Patriot II

      Harold, Don’t you mean” “Voting FOR someone BECAUSE of his race IS Racism” ?

    • Ancestors are angry

      I believe the black and white president issue has not happened this whole time, is because everyone knew this would throw a tailspin in this country!!! Obummer was supposed to help us all become thankful we are Americans. He made it all worse. Yes I said ALL!!!
      Let’s not lose everything our fellow Americans worked for to get us here. (before 2008) thanks all politicians!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/WizardKiller Mark Are Reynolds

      He pulls that (expletive deleted) and I bet he won’t be alive long.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      The T.S.A. is the National Police Force. Check it out, find out why they are increasing their numbers and their technologies. Lee Belinger’s web site can provide you with all the information, you need. Whatever you do, you must be prepared for the worst case scenario. I have been building up my supplies for four years. Buying ammunition, food, water, camping gear etc. As much as I could afford. Better to be safe than sorry.

      • truesoy

        Have you thought about the NSA and the Patriot ACT?. Food for thought.
        And it was not Obama’s.
        But you all loved Bush, right? that’s his baby, and it is coming of age. Sing happy birthday, now, and do so every year from now on.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • shavager

        Yeah, and Conservatives OPPOSED both NSA and Patriot Act programs just like the left did–on CONSTITUTIONAL GROUNDS, not just because it was Bush. But YOU don’t CARE now that it’s OWEbumbler doing it, you march right in line behind the PIEP PIPER of socialism who’s playing George Soros’ and Maurice Strong’s TUNES of communist propaganda. Birds of a feather, FLOCK TOGETHER–OWEbumbler is supported by Ahmadenijad of Iran, Kim Jung IL, jr of N Korea, the American Communist Party, SEIU and most union leaders, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Vladmir Putin of Russia–the KGB president, HAMAS, Hezbollah, MoveOn.org, OccupyWall Street, Center for American Progress,Apollo Alliance, ACORN, Tides Foundation,Joyce Foundation,Green Alliance, etc–ALL socialist/communist leaders or organization–majority of whom George Soros finances and controls.

    • Steve E

      For the past 3 years I too have thought about Obama cancelling the elections, especially if he is loosing in the polls. I sure hope we are wrong about that. This is one of the few times I hope I wrong. I’d rather be wrong in my prediction than to say “I told you so”.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Scares the crap out of you, doesn’t it? It does me! That would mean that we are already a communist country and that it all happened while we weren’t looking.

      • truesoy

        Steve E,
        Let me tell you the solution to your fears.: “get off the pipe”!!!.

      • Deerinwater

        “For the past 3 years I too have thought about Obama cancelling the elections”

        well, that’s three years longer then Obama has thought about it.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Hey Deerinwater, why don’t you teach the rest of us to read minds? How do you “know” what Obama’s thinking about?

      • Deerinwater

        The same way you do evidently.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, let’s see… yep, I’ve been tuned into the right mind all of the time and Obama’s been planning on destroying this evil colonial power for much longer than the last three years. I think you need to recalibrate because you’re not reading Obama’s mind.

      • Deerinwater

        Must be these cheap Walmart batteries in my crystal ball. I guess he could find the time to work it in, he’s got 5 years. I was thinking that Obama had plans to met up with Newt and Alice Krandam on the moon. Maybe he can do it before he goes.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        That’s what you get for shopping at Walmart. You’re not one of those Walmartians are you?

      • Deerinwater

        actually, ~` sometimes , but rarely ~ my sweetheart make a weekly pilgrimage though, every week without fail.

        I went with her once ~ we have separate houses so it was like a baby shower attendance, supportive role thang. yes baby, ~ nice ` you bet, Okay darling, if you want too Kitten. okay! Great! ~ it’s easy enough and worth it, it makes her happy. I prefer a happy woman over an unhappy woman any day.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, there is nothing fundamentally wrong with shopping at Walmart vs shopping with any other retailer. Just pokin fun at ya.

      • Deerinwater

        I can see the appeal Walmart offers everyone, especially the ladies and children. I think retailers have concluded women and children account for much of retail sales so it understandable.

        As for myself, I love women and children, they put color in my “would be” black and white life so i’d be most unwise to object while down deep I understand the political nature goes against small local business interest.

        I think Walmart understand this and has attempted to address it and offer a neighbor friendly image. How significant it truly is, is debatable. Did you know that Walmart is the State of Arizona second largest employer? The largest being Government it’s self?

        Doesn’t say a lot for Arizona does it?

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Deerinwater, this just some more confirmation of what I already knew: that bigger is not always better. Too much government and too much Walmart. The only way Walmart could redeem itself with the communities and the small business that it displaced is to go out business. What the real problem with Walmart is: that the local people decided they’d rather have lower prices instead of local businesses so it’s a problem consumer mentality more than it’s a problem with businesses.

        Then again I’m going to put a large part of the blame on our government. It’s tax and regulation policies drove corporations out of this country seeking cheap labor so they could compete with cheap imports where the foreign governments didn’t have all of the business stifling taxes and regulations that US business have to find ways of making the consumer pay.

      • Deerinwater

        Finding myself a small local merchant , I agree completely. Being service oriented, I only had to compete with Sears and other larger interest. So it wasn’t exactly the same by comparison and of course, after Sears was done beating people up, my business flourished, I only had to live through it for 10 years and complete open charge accounts. Sears is now out of the Service business much like Bell Telephone, having gone on to greener grass and fatter profits.

        I can tell you an interesting story. Some 10 years ago my current lady friend worked at a meat processing plant, she was paid well and had worked her way up to processing management material. (she’s a little 105 pound wild cat) She overseen a production line. ~ It was a Private company owned by two men that did custom processing and packaging. They filled Sonic, Burger King, etc orders. They soon accepted a Walmart account, The Walmart account soon dominated the bulk of their work which seemed okay, until Walmart bought one man’s interest in the plant and slowly managed to acquired 51% of controlling interest in the plant. Then Sonic & Burger Kings business grow less important and less competitive price wise. Then, the plants employees were confronted with lay offs, and fewer people asked to do more work and pay reductions as Walmart management took over. And that is how Walmart can buy a meat processing plant at 50 cents on the dollar and offer very competitive retail prices. The low prices paid by a neighbor losing their job or now underemployed with all the ramifications associated with being underemployed.

        That is what is not pretty about Walmart. Strangely, she shops Walmart.

      • vieteravet

        Drowning deer, First allowing fags to serve openly in the military. 2- Obamacare (yuo have to pass it brfore you can read it). 3- Leaking info to Iran about Isreal’s possible attack. 4 – Creating an enemy list of Romney’s donors and acting on them. 4- His racist bunch of cronies at the DOJ. 5- His pro!motion of class warfare. There a whole lot of $hit I hate about the Kenyan Village Idiot

      • vieteravet

        Sorry about the spelling flubs – it’s late, I’m doing this in the dark because my grand daughter is sleeping in a portable crib in my bedroom.

    • truesoy

      ‘You are expecting an election surprise from Obama”; really?.
      You should worry less about Obama and worry more about your ‘conservative americans’, because they are threatening ‘armed’ revolution if Obama gets re-elected. Those are the trully scary fellows you should worry about.
      Now, that is what real conservatives think of the constitution. Surprised?

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

      • JeffH

        truesoy, Really? I mean really? Been reading your posts for a while now and have yet to see you make a comment based on nothing more than your opinion.

        Try finding some facts for a change…or are you jusy cozy with your own self ignorance. You have no one to fear but yourself.

      • http://msn sophillyjimmy

        Truesoy, take another hit off that crack pipe since you have to be high to have heard the conservatives are going to take up arms if our candidate loses, remember who was doing the intimidating at polling places last November in Philly, it wasn’t the conservatives it was you liberal and radical New Black Panther Party. And let the try to intimidate me, I will have something for them and it won’t be the lever under the big D

    • http://msn sophillyjimmy

      I do believe that is his objective Harold but he will need 4 more years to have his wish come true and I don’t think that will happen.

      • truesoy

        I often wonder what makes a conservative a non-believer about the political shortcomings of their ideolgy and the subsequent negative consequences of the implementations of said agenda.
        Here I refer to the blind faith you exhibit on a cause of which you know nothing, apparently. Thereby I ask you, do you really know the reason why you are a conservative, or do you just think you do?.
        Aside from the fact you’re calling me a ‘lying ‘crack head’, and for which I take no offense, being tha I know you don’t know any better, I will tell you that facts are not on your side, and neither is credibility. But I still don’t fault you, other than your failure to, with due dilligence, secure/search for the truth in the right places.
        The issue here is what the Republican Party in Green County, Virginia said in their march newsletter.
        Yes, they advocated ‘armed rebellion’ if Obama was to get re-elected. There is my proof, need I say more?. They, the republican party said it, not me. Maybe now it is time for me to ask, who is smoking crack?
        This doesn’t say much for the self-appointed defenders of the Constitution, does it?. Nor it speak too highly about you, and/or the likes of you (JeffH included here) that fight for a cause about which they do not know all they should know.
        Please know the people you are supporting, and their agenda; they are not on your side.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

  • ash splinter

    is this guy serious? golly gee there’s no racism in white America anymore. he may want to read a few comments on this site. one. two at the most. i could go on but why bother. how’s things going in selling the rubes gold?

    • http://naver samurai

      I see we have forgotten about the KKK, Neo Nazis, and other surly groups as they are part of the white community, I just think they are nutjobs for the left. No racism in white America? You’ve just played the race card by saying white and not caucasian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Patriot II

        Samurai; just got a joke in my email that explains some things:

        “While stitching up a cut on the hand of a 75 year old rancher, whose hand was caught in the squeeze gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his role as our Campaigner in Chief.

        The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘Post Turtle”.
        Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him, what a ‘post turtle’ was. The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.

        The old rancher saw the puzzled look on the doctor’s face so he continued to explain. “You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he’s up there, he’s elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just Wonder what kind of Propaganda put him up there to begin with.”

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Patriot II, that’s a great joke if you want to call it that. It seems appropriate and true. Can I use it?

      • Sharr

        B.O. 50% Caucasian.
        B.O. maybre 10% black.
        B.O. approx. 40% muslim.
        Face it America.

      • Doris Carman

        How can you say its racist to say “white instead of caucasian” when you say “black instead of negro or African”?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        SIC ‘EM samurai!!! Whatzup Bro? Say hey to sook for me! I’ve been BLESSED with many black friends over ny 53 yrs., having grown up during the late 60′s, early 70′s era when the racial tensions were at their worse, I must say that we’ve come a looong way since the days of the old Jim Crow Laws. As far as we’ve come though, the tensions are in some ways worse than they’ve EVER been! You see you have haters on both sides of the racial devide which will have no part what-so-ever with any part of racial HARMONY!!! From groups like the New Black Panthers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBhzJnJIilI, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h2n3vJo7Xo&feature=related, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9EzShQxlI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9EzShQxlI&feature=related, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VqG_4ADFfQ&feature=related) to the white supremist groups such as White Pride World Wide (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPbMsZM-eO4, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hul16UxbSIk&feature=related, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpt2t_vDo-s&feature=related), so the problem that exists today is worse, in the sense that the HATERS on ALL sides (And it isn’t just black and white!) become more enraged and thus more violent the more that the barriers come down! Racial intolarence has been one of the MAIN sticking points in the incompletion of the American Dream and even more importantly a blatant refusal to obey Christ’s command!!!

        “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” – Gal. 3:28 (KJV)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=AXjrtsCRCL8&feature=endscreen
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3azb9XXWE&feature=related

        Let us pray; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo

      • TML

        I really don’t see any racism in that joke at all.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        LOL!!! A freakin’ post turtle is a FREAKIN’ post turtle, what in the HELL else are ya gonna call it?!! That was GOOD PatriotI LOL!!! I pray that the doctor wasn’t one of those Kool-Aid drinkin’ libtards!!! HEY KOOL-AID! BEWARE!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry-rTHOpgxE&feature=autoplay&list=PL1D442DEEB436DADB&playnext=2

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

        Do you follow satan or God, a simple question for those who think they are smarter then God.

      • http://naver samurai

        Everything for God and country. Always God and country.

    • eddie47d

      Race and racism is brought up every week on this site Samurai so who is stirring up trouble? Besides those groups you mentioned are far right extremists. So what kind of teacher did you say you were? To set the record straight can blacks be racists? Absolutely Farrakhan is a prime example but his influence has never gone main stream like that of the Klan (as an example).

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Eddie I will point out your lie again, KKK is a democratic organization that hides behind the mask so there black neighbors wont string him up when he is not with his other KKK nut job buddies running aroung burning stuff in their PJs.

      • Jody L

        In reply to Brad:
        ‘running aroung burning stuff in their PJs’

        Thanks for making me laugh this morning. That is a funny visual!

      • DaveH

        Eddie says that race and racism is brought up every week.
        So, Eddie, who brings it up? Every time I’ve seen the issue presented it was brought up by a Liberal.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        eddie you are talking thru your hat. While the klan MIGHT have been mainstream at one time it is insignificant footnote now. The klan is less influential now than Farrakhan and WAY WAY less influential than those other bastions of racism Jessie and Al.

      • robowang

        WOW you are ill informed.
        As was noted, the KKK is a SOUTHERN DEMOCRAT CREATED organization. It’s fact, get over it and stop lying to yourself.
        But here’s the kicker.
        I live within 5 miles of what once was the bastion of KKK teritory in Nothern Alabama. 2 decades ago, they wereee very active and actually astopped trafic at the corners to solicit donations 2-3 times a year.
        They are essentially gone, and what remains of the KKK is 90% FBI Informants.
        There IS no KKK left anymore.
        So that canard and straw man is just buffoonery. lil’ buddy.

      • JeffH

        eddie, your continued obsession with “the Klan” is really just that, an obsession.

        …from Ann Coulter: “If it were true that conservatives were racist, sexist, homophobic, fascist, stupid, inflexible, angry, and self-righteous, shouldn’t their arguments be easy to deconstruct? Someone who is making a point out of anger, ideology, inflexibility, or resentment would presumably construct a flimsy argument. So why can’t the argument itself be dismembered rather than the speaker’s personal style or hidden motives? Why the evasions?”

        “With their infernal racial set-asides, racial quotas, and race norming, liberals share many of the Klan’s premises. The Klan sees the world in terms of race and ethnicity. So do liberals! Indeed, liberals and white supremacists are the only people left in America who are neurotically obsessed with race. Conservatives champion a color-blind society.”

        As a matter of fact, what can one expect from silly white liberals at this point, so many of whom are so obsessed with race that they’ve become parodies of themselves.

      • JeffH

        Perhaps most telling is the explanation offered by Representative Allen West.

        “Liberal Racism does not believe in One Nation under God. They believe in a Nation of subjects organized into collective groups under which they shall rule, not govern, in a secular humanist based society.

        Indivisible, Liberal Racism does not believe in “e pluribus unim”, they prefer a balkanized America where they can pit us against each other through their manipulated messages….such as Tea Party racism.

        Liberal racism does not believe in Liberty and Justice for All, they believe in freedom defined by a ruling class elite while creating more victims who become dependent upon their dishonest benevolence.”

        So there you have it. In a nutshell, the Left is obsessed with race because…

        A. Their arguments aren’t nearly as good, so why not change the topic to an accusation of racism? And,

        B. It’s part of an overall strategy to pit different groups against one another, impede any progress toward racial indifference, harmony and acceptance and create strife at every turn in order to create various sub-categories of victims.

      • eddie47d

        There are also 59 right wing conspiracy groups in California Jeff who also advocate for various take overs of government,see commies under every rock,believe in incarcerating their local “enemies” or are just plain paranoid. Some of those 59 are economic based or militia groups so you have plenty to choose from to propagandize your “open mind”. Heck we (Progressives) need a can opener to pry open some of the minds around here.

      • JeffH

        Gee eddie, you’re so far left of left you can’t even keep track of the conversation…think simpleminded.

        You said “There are also 59 right wing conspiracy groups in California Jeff who also advocate for various take overs of government…”.

        59 right wing conspiracy groups in California? Excuse me while I laugh in your face, out loud! LMAO! Considering California is overrun with and wholly controlled by progressives I’d really like, for once, that you could cite the source of your information gathering…think delusional mind.

        You(didn’t)hurt my feelings by mentioning my state, California, but you’re so ignorant you tried…think loser.

        Whatever does your response have to do with your “Klan” obsession or that it is you ignorant liberals that tend to be the ones that bring “race” into a conversation?

        CLUE: NOTHING!

        Stupid is as stupid does…life(eddie’s)is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re going to get!
        Forrest Gump
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

        God proves one thing, everyone knows more then He does, He laughs at your stupid remarks because it has already been spelled out but, then those little gods who know more then the Creator, think they have the answers, foolish, stupid and satanic by nature. Get a life, ask the real God to give you insight and forget your little godhood idea’s.

      • David Deal

        Finally a voice of reason. First of all Blacks vote Democrat overwhelmingly all of the time and they just came out stronger when finally they felt they had a candidate who would really understand them. Is that such a bad thing. Women almost always favor Dems too. And increasingly younger people too because they are less racist and more tolerant and progressive on socail issues. It is the racist extreme right’s attempt to justify their own racism, sexism, and homophobia that drives their twisted efforts to misinform.

      • shavager

        Get your facts straight bubba, it’s NOT Tea Party or Conservatives that’s trying to FORCE Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham or Ann Coulter OFF THE AIR, it’s NOT GOP trying to STOP reporting about OWEbumbler’s background of radicals from his muslim communist daddy, or about his self admitted COMMUNIST mentor Frank Marshall Davis, or his former “green czar” self admitted COMMUNIST Van Jones, it’s OWEbumbler’s former media advisor Anita Dunn that says Mao Tse Tung is her “favorite philosopher”–the same MAO who MURDERED MILLIONS in China, it’s OWEbumbler’s regulatory czar Cass Sunstein who says YOU are PROPERTY OF THE GOVT., OWEbumbler’s “science czar” John Holdren believes in FORCED STERILIZATION AND ABORTION, BELIEVES IN FORCING FAMILIES TO BE LIMITED TO 2 CHILDREN. It’s LEFTWING radicals and communists that DOMINATE the DemocRAT party destroying private and public property at Occupy protests, that threaten and beat Tea Party group members and Conservatives–$7 MILLION in damage to capital in Madison Wisc, $5 MILLION more damage in California. It’s NOT GOP, Conservatives or Tea Party members arrested and charged with attempted bombing of a Cleveland, Ohio bridge, it’s NOT Tea Party or Conservatives threatening RACE WAR or putting out BOUNTYS on people NOT tried or convicted in Fla for a tragic event. It wasn’t Tea Party, GOP or Conservatives with batons threatening voters at the polls in Pennsylvania in ’08, or participating in voter FRAUD LIKE ACORN HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        David Deal, people vote Democratic because they feel like they’re going to get more of what they already have: more freebies and more rights; things like abortion, free birth control, all of the social give away programs, now it’s going to be nationally recognized same sex marriages, all the while the good ole government will finish tightening down the lid on real freedom in this country. We’re losing our right to free speech in this country and part of that problem is due to all of this political correctness stuff. We certainly don’t want to hurt anybodies feelings by saying the truth now do we? We will lose our right to decide what kind of medical care we want and who we want to give it if Obama care passes the Supreme Court. What are they going to do: lock somebody up if they don’t buy into Obama Care? What about our rights to a fair trial?

        My son related a story about a friend of his in the radiator repair business. Somebody spotted some anti-freeze on the floor of his shop and the EPA came in and fined him $45,000 dollars and when he complained that it wasn’t fair they told him that it wasn’t a matter of fairness or guilt it was a matter that if they showed up he was going to get fined for something.

      • vicki

        Very funny eddie47d, and you are correct that the race card is played often in the comments on this site. I have been informally tracking the first use in each thread and as far as I can tell it has always been played first by a liberal. I have even pointed out the “first use” in some of the threads. Once in a while a faux conservative will play it but further sturdy of their writing shows them to be agents provocateur.

      • CitySurvivor

        Back in the late 80′s, the “head” of the KKK, David Duke ran for president. He entered the DEMOCRAT primary along with Jesse Jackson and the other “usual suspects”. A few years later he won a state position in an area of the LA bayous while running as a republican. Ever since that day he was known as a “republican”. Duke hadn’t been involved with the 3 k’s for years, when he won, but whenever his name is brought up by the media, he’s an “R”. During his “hate” years, he was a prominent “D”.

      • eddie47d

        No Vickie it is ALWAYS brought up by the author,the headline of the day or the pictures being used. Now tell me you didn’t notice that.

      • eddie47d

        CITY; That can’t be denied but that is also not the issue. In the old days they were CONSERVATIVE Democrats and now they are CONSERVATIVE Republicans. He didn’t change sheets only the party.

      • vieteravet

        you forgot NBPP, black theologians like wright, there’s alot of black racists. Two reporters get attacked in Virgina by 30 or so blacks. A white kid gets set on fire because he’s WHITE! Go to Philly and spend an evening in center city, you’ll believe they are racists!

      • truesoy

        vieteravet,
        Although it makes for an excited race issue that a white boy was set on fire by racist black boys, it did not happen, at least I can’t find it nowhere.
        On the other hand I found an story from MO where a 13 year old was set on fire but not because of race, but because of bullying by another boy that happens to be white. Yes vieteravet, the suspect is white 17 year old boy named Joseph Gardner.

        Source of my information: kmbc 9 news MO.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • shavager

        There you go again–February 2012, Kansas City, Kansas–13 year old white boy burned by two blacks with gas–KC police detective investigating case is Stacey Taylor. How ’bout some MO? April 5-Toledo, Ohio 78 yr old white man beaten by group of blacks yelling: “this is for Trayvon”. April 9–Gainesville, Fla–white male beaten by 5-8 blacks yelling “Trayvon”-he has permanent facial disfigurement. March 17-St. Patick’s Day–white man beaten unconcious and robbed by 4 blacks. April 23, Mobile, Alabama–Matthew Owens in coma, critical condition after being beaten by group of 20 blacks wielding pipes, bricks, chairs–”That’s JUSTICE for Trayvon.” Now we have 4 blacks in hoodies beating and stomping a white soldier in Tampa Fla. in past couple of days. J.Christian Adams, former DOJ lawyer says Eric Holder has a “HOSTILITY” towards bringing cases for prosecution if victims are white and the perpertrators are BLACK. He says Holder’s attitude is “giving the gangstas the green light”.

      • vieteravet

        Who the hell is this Truesoy? I read his comments, and he’s really stupid or a flat out liar. When you suck at teat of Obama, you’ll believe anything. Good posts shavager!
        From and old MSgt.

      • truesoy

        viteravet;
        …and who is this ‘truesoy’. Well, it’s me.
        About the case of the white kid set on fire by two 16 year old blacks in Kansas city, Kansas as more questions than answers, and the police is still investigating, though no arrests have been made.
        One question the detectives have about the story is how, by account of the victim/mother, he was able to put out the fire using a ‘gasoline soacked shirt’. This don’t make sense, does it? Another piece of the puzzle they can’t figure out is how anyone could be doused with gasoline as he claims, yet received only first degre burns.
        No one knows much about this case yet, but one thing for sure, it has served to inflame racial tensions.
        There are those who see their agenda served by this, and are ven insinuating of a covered up by a police unwilling to arrest ‘blacks’ for hate crimes. Obviously this is only for the weak of mind to believe for the police can’t arrest without a suspect.
        This is not a ‘Zimmerman/Trayon’ like case
        But one thing for sure is that many people are starting to question the veracity of the claims made by the victim and his mother.
        However ie star of a hate crime to later find out it wasn’t so. Remember the ‘white girl’ who was forcibly tattoo by ‘black’ Obama supporters during the 2008 election to later find out it was self-inflicted? is not the first time that a ‘black’ is said to be the culprit when he is not, but we will eventually know the truth.
        You know, and I’m not saying it could not be true, but that it is to ‘conveniently timed’, not to question it.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Jeff

        Let’s see. The last time we knew for a fact that overt racism was a major fact in American political life was during the 60s (remember George Wallace, Jim Crow, etc., etc.). Remember how the racist South used to vote Democrat because of antipathy to Lincoln? Right after LBJ passed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts (1964 and 1965), Southern Democrats all became Republicans. Within a few years, the South was solidly Republican. What changed? Did the people change? Somewhat they did, but the racist attitudes didn’t change that quickly. Face it, the entire conservative movement since about 1980 owes its vitality to racism – not as overt as prior to 1970, but just as real.

      • Deerinwater

        I’d say that was a fairly accurate assessment Jeff. The problem seem to be there really is no single party that fills an one persons “shopping list”

        If the race issue is satisfied there will be something else to divide the people. It could be the “fairy” issue, the pro choice or right to life as they call it.

        This dividing is deliberate, entrenched power does not want a united people.

        When you couple these dividing issues with a candidate that is willing to say what ever is necessary to get you vote ~ Houston , We’ve got a problem.

        Even the Tea Party movement has bee infiltrated by these “people” .

        Governor Rick Scot of Florida is showing his “conservative muscles” one minute and influence peddling the next and giving things away the next.

        As too with Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin, ~ they haven’t behaved well when no one was looking either.

        Governor Rick Perry has managed to start drawing a health state pension before he even retires.

        This behavior is discouraging when it comes from people claiming a higher calling and a watch dog for the “peoples money”

        There is a lot of clean house that needs to take place. ~ We can’t believe what these sons of bucks say. ~ too many lie! You can’t take them at their word or the company they keep.

    • Warrior

      I for one am so past this “race war” issue. I’ve moved on to the “war against fat people” I’m in favor of putting ropes in front of the bus and instead of the fat kids getting on the bus they will have to get in front and pull the bus. Now that’s what I call moving “Forward”.

      Oops, I just had a “progressive” moment!

      • Average Joe

        “Oops, I just had a “progressive” moment!”

        Ok, that’s it…30 whacks with an idiot stick! We’ll have no more of that around here! ;)

      • http://naver samurai

        D’oh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://www.facebook.com/joelscopeland Joel Copeland

        LOL

      • Nanna Gail

        Gee wiz Eddie: I don’t know about your suggestion of puting the “Fat” kids in front to tow the bus. How far do you think they would get before collapsing? :) And before anyone starts getting on my case, I am NOT saying they should be put to towing the bus.

        I had never been fat in my life. But once I got over my mid to late thirties, I started gaining weight. Then I had my son at age 40 years and metablism brke down completely, thus I gained a lot more weight, which I have been trying to lose ever since.

        My in-laws have gone to great pains to make hurtful suggestions about my weight. Now, because of the stress they caused me, I have gained MORE weight.

        See, my point is, the more you use something against someone, ie: WEIGHT, RACE, etc., the worse it gets.

        But Liberals and the Leftists, will never understand that.

        Let’s just forget about race and concentrate on finding a way to rid America of these disasterous Marxists.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

        Forward has been used by Marxist, Communist and all those who want a one world government ruled by the little god satan, he has so many fooled it would be laughable if it wasn’t for where they will spend eternity with their little god.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Ash , the reason you see this is because minorities have gotten a free ride for many years, decades and now Obama plays the race card all the time. Affirmative action has destroyed many companies from growing as they should have and minorities took positions from many whites that were better for that position. If you read my post in here yesterday I wrote about the damage affirmative action has done through the words of a friend of mine that is in upper management for one the major mortgage companies. He has blacks coming back from lunch high and drunk and fall asleep on their key boards, (more like pass out) and can do nothing to these idiots without getting sued, Employers with over 50 employees are suffering bad from this exact example. It is rediculous. Look, that was 200 years ago, get over it. How can I be blamed because some black guy’s great, great, great grand father sold him into slave trade. Get pissed off at their own ancestors and leave us alone.
      Hech the black slave back then was now in a better world than he left, doging spears, tigers and the threat of his grass hut being burnt down by another black. They still kill off their own race right here in America more than any other race. You are delusional.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Brad:
        You say Blacks come back from lunch being drunk or high. Well, at my Job, it’s whites that are doing the same thing. Heck, my white boss is so incompetent that he lets clients leave doors to the work facility unlocked and wide open after work. As a result, my facility has pest problems plus homeless people wondered in a couple times. Thus, this dilemma goes both ways. However, you’re right about abolishing affirmative action. We need a policy of neutrality that enforces the 1964 civil right verbatim which was created to enforce the 14th with 1st amendments of the constitution. Thanks!! TGIF!!

      • paintedponey

        Right on Brad, Continue to say it like it .

      • Mike in MI

        Brad, I’m not sure they appreciated being in a “better place than Africa”??? Having your freedom forcibly taken from you – like Obama is trying to do. You don’t seem so happy about it. Look at it this way:
        wouldn’t you rather be in a situation where you don’t have to dodge nearly so many of the slings and arrows of malicious fate, have to work so hard for your bread (up to $500.00/month provided by the state), have to slave 30-40 years to pay off your mortgage instead of having Obanksterama it pay for you out of his “stash” he saved just for you, save to send your kids to school (Obama will loan them money and let them skip out), etc. All those wonderful things – but you still think you want to stay in your present status instead of giving up some of your freedoms in exchange for Obama’s, Reid’s, McConnell’s, Boehner’s and Pelosi’s help? Funny, it’s difficult for you to understand the once free African’s dislike of being shipped over here to work for some brain-baked “Suthun’ gennimun”.
        However, I wonder about one odd matter regarding our neighbors whose forbears were forcibly removed from Africa:
        Why are their kids now turning in droves to Islam? Hasn’t anyone ever told them that muslim raiders used to travel all over Africa hunting down the natives like animals for the purpose of taking them to inlets and coastal meeting places. There they’d wait for the ships to come and the Muslims sold their human wares to the freightlines.
        And NOW they want to put themselves under that domination again – and pay off the imams to make them slaves anew?????????

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        so what is your point Mike, that they are just idiots without any pupose at all? It was their own ancestors that put them in slave trade in the first place.

      • sarge

        Hey Tony if its a white screwing up FIRE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO CHANCE OF GETTING SUED!

      • http://none 1 Son of Liberty

        Right on brad! Just look what it did to the auto industry. My mother had to stand and wait for a car in the repair department. The super would not let them sit down and wait for a car. After affirmative action got all the blacks in the plant they would sit and wait for a car in the repair dept. After that everyone would sit around. One would come to work drunk every day and drank at work on break and at lunch. They could not even fire a total drunk because of his race. Now that’s racist to the extreme. The way I see it the auto bailouts were just to help the blacks some more. The ratio of blacks working at the big three coincides with the downfall of the American auto industry. Poor quality and recalls are a result of AA. Just the way I have seen it.

        I will probably buy a foreign car next time since the racist in Detroit have threatened to burn the city down if the state has to take over the city. That’s because the Governor is white. They want tax dollars from the rest of us through the state but want to spend it a they please. I am against any of my tax dollars going to Detroit because of the racism there. They tried to burn the city down in 67 and they are doing it now. The liberal media just doesn’t report on it.

        The problem is the millions in water bills unpaid and the millions in taxes. Lets face it black just don’t pay their bills. Proven fact just check the records in Detroit. Every few years they have a tax amnesty in Detroit. I guess the city I live in would be broke if we just didn’t pay our bills and to reward our irresponsibility they gave us amnesty on the taxes and water bills. since most of the workers who are supposed to collect taxes and such are black they just don’t do their jobs either. it’s a vicious cycle of incompetence and irresponsibility. Facts are Facts

        Not a Racist
        Just not silent anymore.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        1 son – yes it is a huge issue. WE bought foreign cars this time around built right here in America by Americans because I will not support the union thugs. I know that hurts the union workers that have very little to do with the bosses. But you have to start at the bottom to get to the top at all cost.

      • CitySurvivor

        Brad…1 Son……Just bough my 1st Hyundai….(No obama motors cars ( I traded my Buick),
        ever, for me or family.) It was made in the USA. I know, I know…FORD isn’t OMotors, but they’ve built their last 2 state of the art assembly plants in Mexico and Brazil. GM’s building in China and Mexico and who knows where Chrysler’s churning out their drek.

        I don’t feel guilty at all. This is my 1st “non big 3 ” car I’ve ever purchased. (I’m 65 yrs old, vet, college, all that stuff…..do I fit into a “demographic” ????…lol…)

      • Jeff

        Brad:

        You are deeply in denial and need help. Yes, there is dysfunction in the Black community but is that due to some defect in Black people? Or is it more likely due to generations of Government policies designed to subjugate Black people? You throw out 200 years as a figure as if it means something. Effective slavery didn’t even begin to end until the 1960s. It’s only been the current generation that’s grown up without the oppressive baggage of segregation and overt hostility from people like you (at least a lot more of them). The stories you tell about Black workers getting high at lunch sound like the apocryphal stories the Gipper used to tell about Welfare Queens, Big Black Bucks, etc. If you think the Reagan campaign (launched in Philadelphia, Mississippi) wasn’t racist at its core, you’re not really thinking.

    • Patriot II

      Ash, what’s your point? speak plainly not in Riddles that only people who understand you, can understand. People like you who speak like you do, obviously have a Mental Illness.

    • Flashy

      “Obama is expected to receive 95 percent of the black vote this year, just as he did in 2008 — no matter who his opponent is or what the issues are. Of course, there’s nothing racist in that.”

      And Ron Paul garnered a large majority of the white supremist vote. Is that meaning Paul is a white supremist racist?

      And Romney will garner almost all of the Mormon vite…does that mean he is anti christian?

      Jeesh ….

      • Doug

        And don’t forget flushy obamalamadingdong will get all the turds votes from turds like you! You know what they say turds that plop together stay together. People who cry racist are usually the racist and I can tell you there way to many racist black people.

      • DaveH

        Flashman, as usual, cites a fabricated fact.
        Show us some proof, Flashman, that white supremists vote for Ron Paul.
        You surely don’t expect anybody on this board (except the Progressive Zealots) to take your word for it, since you have no credibility?

      • JeffH

        Stupid is as stupid does
        Forrest Gump

      • eddie47d

        Flashy’s point was valid but as always it goes over the heads of Conservative who are deliberately racist . They won’t admit it Flashy even when it smacks them upside the head.

      • Flashy

        http://newsone.com/1748295/top-10-racist-ron-paul-friends-supporters/

        Here ya are DaveH. Now…does that prove anything about whether Ron paul is racist/ of course not. yet it does with President Obama?

      • toptiermentor

        No what proves it is racist is that Obama has hurt all americans, but especially hurt “his” people because of his policies. What also is sad to me is that Obama’s actions and words are so incredibly racist. He is the most racist leader we have in our country right now. His actions, words, lack of actions prove he is a racist of the worst order. He is unfit to be our president. One need look no further than Eric Holder and what he has been doing to confirm this. The really bad thing about Race & Obama is that millions of whites voted for him because of his words. They also found it to be cathartic and refreshing that an african american could be president. Obama has been such an incredible failure that now many of the more ignorant whites will never vote for an african american again no matter how qualified they are. So who has set “race” back in america more than Obama? Nobody………..he is the king.

      • Bobby

        i would never vote for Mitt Romney for any reasons why would I vote for him and have no connections or anything in common with him, that just not going to happen.

      • DaveH

        From Flashman’s link:
        “Ron Paul (pictured) has a lot of racist supporters, including white supremacist website Stormfront, conspiracy theorist group the John Birch Society and neo-Confederates who believe that the South was right during the civil war. And the support is mutual. While Paul would like you to believe that his connection to racism ended with his newsletters, he has continued to address this group well into the 21st century. Take a look at Ron Paul’s top 10 most-racist supporters”.
        I think the “neo-Confederates who believe that the South was right during the civil war” says it all about the author’s credibility. The South WAS right. They simply did not want to be part of the Union any longer. They wanted self-governance. But Lincoln wanted to Force them to stay in the Union, and Force them he did at the cost of more than 600,000 lives.
        For those who have been thoroughly Propagandized, but would like to learn some reality:
        https://mises.org/store/Product2.aspx?ProductId=172

      • DaveH

        And we all know that a Liberal calling a group racist is meaningless, like the boy who cried wolf. What Wikipedia says about the John Birch Society:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

      • DaveH

        Stormfront really is a racist organization. But then the question is — does Ron Paul solicit their support? I doubt it.
        http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/28/stormfront-founder-ron-pauls-views-coincide-with-ours-on-most-issues/
        Here’s your homework assignment, Flashman — find proof that Ron Paul solicits the support of Stromfront, and show us the link.

        So you might ask yourselves — Why would Democrats fear Ron Paul? He’d butt the Government out of their drug choices, which Liberals say they want. He’d butt the Government out of victimless crimes, which Liberals say they want. He’d quit using our military as the World’s Policemen, which Liberals say they want.
        So what are these Liberals afraid of? Oh yeah, he would stop the redistribution of other peoples’ money. And he would greatly diminish the size of Government. They can’t have that, can they?

      • DaveH

        And, Flashman, Obama proved himself that he is a racist when he did his knee-jerk support for black Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., and declared on national TV that the police had “acted stupidly.”, when he had stated earlier in the same speech that he didn’t know the details of the case. And it was none of the Federal Government’s business in the first place.

      • DaveH

        And then there’s this. An admitted Black racist intimidating people at a polling place:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
        What does the Obama administration do about it? They drop the charges.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        DaveH – I think obama’s obvious racist behavior particularly so early on in his “presidency” cast a large shadow of his own division from the American people. He isn’t the leader of a Country, he’s trying to be just some sort cool retro guy with black folks – probably has some problem mentally feeling that he’s neither white nor black —- he had the power to make an incredible difference instead he squandered it and made a difference of another kind – taking the US back 50 years to separate the races.

      • DaveH

        Glad you brought that point up, Libertytrain.
        Obama campaigned on the agenda to bring the races together, yet he has created more racial tension than I can remember in my lifetime.
        Even his More Perfect Union Speech did nothing more than to dredge up old complaints basically blaming Whitey for all the Black Man’s failings:
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23690567/ns/politics-decision_08/t/more-perfect-union/#.T66A5-jO1VU

        We all need to recognize that Government is in the business of fomenting trouble so they can come along with the “solution”. We need to get the Government Meddlers out of the equation if we ever hope to get along with each other.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        I’ve actually become embarrassed for what he did to his father’s side of the race issue – set back all the work done by so many people during the 60′s – we had come so far and he tore it to shreds in an instant. Backward man rather than a forward leader —

      • JeffH

        Libertytrain and DaveH, I believe there is no doubt about Obama’s intentional use of ethnic division. It comes straight from his tutored radicalism, his embracing communist and Marxist ideologies from both Karl Marx and Saul Alinsky.

        It is all about destroying capitalism, primarily thru the radical labor movement, by creating a false division between “black and white” Americans…racist politics. They attack the rich, they attack corporations to create class division and then they use the racial political tool to create a false black/white division.

        Setting blacks against whites against Latinos can only assure that political and economic equality of the races, as well as between rich and poor, will face inflexible and unyielding barriers to realization.

        The ultimate results of this divisiveness are an agitated and emphasized concept of racial interests, both black and white, and a lack of cohesiveness in the labor movement. The emphasis on race identity obviously cripples the labor movement (and thus class identity) as an exclusively realistic mode for change.
        http://www.essortment.com/race-marxism-39720.html

      • DaveH

        I can’t remember how young I was when, after hearing Liberal Classmates complain about Big Bad Business, I asked — if the Businessmen were dangerous to our well-being — what about the Leaders who had the Power of Force to back them up? But I was at least in my early 20s if not earlier.
        It bewilders me how people can embrace any kind of political agenda that puts so much Power in Leaders’ hands.

    • Cliffystones

      Hey Ash Sphincter!

      Where do all us Crackers sign up to join the great white male conspiricy? As a Honky WASP male I want to start reaping some of those wonderful white man only benefits.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Me too Cliff I sure would like to qualify for some of this Small Business Loans that only the minorities qualify for.

    • Jody L

      So are you saying that only whites are racists, but not blacks? Get a clue!

      • Deerinwater

        I know very few people that are not predisposed to favor people that reflect the qualities they find in themselves.

        Is this what we are attempting to discuss? This human tendency to see our world in a subjective manner?

        Is anyone suggesting this is improper , out of the ordinary or unusual?

    • DaveH

      Sure, there’s racism, Ash:
      http://www.bestandworst.com/r/104739.htm

      Notice that even those who self-identify as Black, say Blacks are more racist.

      • Bobby

        Since blacks are so racists I’ll be glad to see them get started burning down this country beating whites to a pulp, hanging them if you see them talking to a black women burn some symbols in the white man’s yard, denounce whites when you can, refer to them as crackers or honkies, Have marches and scream black power black unity, black separation the hell with intergration that crap doesn’t work establish a miltary unit to defend themselves from opression avenge the death of Travon Martin by any means necessary, and turn this damn country into a real battleground , if you going to be called a racists then get started you already have the title stop sitting back and let these people kill your sons and walk all over you. They think you are the most racists then prove it with honor.

      • DaveH

        Seek help, Bobby.

      • Deerinwater

        Of coarse black are racist, not at birth but they are taught to be just like all the rest of us.

        Is it time to quit this teaching? Tall order, I’d think.

    • http://firefox wog1

      Some think that racism only applies to one side. That no matter what the blacks do they can never be considered racist. They are the victims. Well they are more racist than any whites that I know. Anyone who trumps that race card is racist. That is why the blacks vote 95% for Obama. I will bet that 95% of them have never thought about why they are voting they way they do except that he is a black president. They use the race card to manipulate. Remember Obama is half white though you would never know it.

      • eddie47d

        Louis Farrakhan is a black racist and he doesn’t deny it. David Dukes is a white racist and doesn’t deny it. Some of us know who they are and then there are some who just can’t admit what is going on. That includes black and whites.

      • JeffH

        DUMMY ALERT!

        Hey eddie, aren’t you the one who’s brinking Farrakhan and Duke(think KKK obsession again)?

        DUH! Not sure how your comment fits in with wog1′s comment…can you explain and tie them together…if possible?

    • Sharr

      B.O. 50% Caucasian
      B.O. maybe 10% Black.
      B.O. approx. 40% Muslim.
      face it America.

      • Patriot II

        Sharr; 100% One Worlder, minion for the Elite Insanely Rich-”Wolf is Sheeps Clothing”, not even a Liberal, just a Liberal Poser because the Libs a buying his Crap that they are eating under the sand where thier heads are.

      • bill

        Sharr,

        Muslim is not a race. Quit showing your ignorance.

      • louie1

        Not Muslim, Sharr, but A-RAB.

    • http://msn sophillyjimmy

      Racism beget racism ash, when I get those intimidating looks from homies, I just look at them and they think this white guy is crazy because he is not afraid of me (us), so it is not so much of me being a racist, it is I am not afraid of racist and if they want to get it on I am ready and able, since I know they bleed and hurt just like me .

    • http://yahoo catsueme

      Yep, you’re right… but you must not stop there. In case you have’nt being looking or listening the black comunity has it on racest act going, but I suppose thats alright because you’re the minority. Well this is one guy that does’nt buy that load of do do. Racism is just thatno matter who does it. What you must realize that black workers will not hire a white person no matter how qualifed they are. A friend of mine runs a day care and had to go fill out some forms that were difficult to understand. While he was waiting to talk to the worker (black) while she was filling out this form for another person(black). When she finished my frien ask her for some help and she informed him she was’nt thewre to help him fill it out. Now who coould he complain to as her boss was black and her boss was too. Befopre you say this is only on enstance let me assure you that this is common place. I went into a new McDonalds the other day and saw 13 workers (black) including the supv. Do you realy beleive their were no young white wishing to get a position there. What I see when Black mgn. are hired no whites need to apply. So you see what you see in others,you ignore whats happen in yoou’re own race.
      Have a nice day.

    • Blue

      Obama won in 2008 because he is black. There is discrimination in America, but it goes both ways. I could care less what the color of a person’s skin is. It is their heart that means the most to me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

      We are all one race, different colors? Yes but, all with the same DNA going back to one person, God is right, man is wrong and that is proven with any type of racism.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

      Why does everyone think this ass—- is just black, he had a white mother or are people to dumb, stupid and anti-christ to know or care? His human father was a Marxist, a Commie and he is a bastard by the term itself. So he uses race to get what he wants, his real father is satan who lies and hates all humans of all colors, get a brain, a life and give up on satan’s will for the will of God.

    • Matt

      Ash, There is racism around the world; always has been, always will be. The point here is that the blatant lack of acknowledgement of the obvious racism of the most racist element, which is from black Americans, is what is so absurd. Not one race in the United States has ever shown so much bias in a presidential election,

      Black America will now be forced to prove what is more important to them; morals or color. I have little confidence that Martin Luther Kings dream of an America where a mans worth is based on the content of his character will be realized in the next election. Even with President Obamas self revelation of his lack of moral convictions, I believe that black voters will choose color over content by a 95% vote.

      Can you give an example of racial bias any more aggregious than the black vote of 2008? Slavery never enjoyed that kind of support. It only had around 50% support, and are you aware that only 3% of Americans owned slaves? White bias has never been at 95%. You will be hard pressed to find an arena in America with more bias than black America.

    • vieteravet

      I could care less what hsi color is- am I voting against his black half or against his white half-not; I vote against him because his policies are halfassed!

      • Deerinwater

        And which policy is it that you object to the most?

      • DaveH

        Helping himself to other peoples’ money. You know, Deer, Theft.

      • http://MSN Mike

        Anyone who votes for someone just just because of their skin color is a racist.There is no argument that can change that. Look at most of the big cities in America that are having tough financial times. What do they have in common? They are all run by Democrats promising something for nothing. Thrown in that the black leaders of these cities still get around 80% of the vote from those that look like them, and you have good old fashion racism, If you had a white candidate that was caught on tape smoking crack with the feds would he ever get re-elected? Especially if her were a Republican..Hell no! But because he was black he was set up my the white man. It’s not 1960 anymore people. Yew, there is still racism in the country, but not it has shifted, It’s whities fault when Katrinas hit, not the dumb ass mayor. Blame who’s at fault, white or black, don’t listen to losers like jackson or foxx or west. It” sad to see that those who have received so much for doing nothing for so long are going to do so little little except to fight back against those trying to make them get up on their two feet and make something of themselves. Then along comes Jackson and sharpton, along with 15 white democrats to say that republicans hate black people, Throw in that loser Kanye West and Jamie Foxx and now you have a movement. Please, those of you who are black and support planned parenthood, go back and look who founded the organization and what the purpose was when it came into existence. Maybe it will open your eyes but I doubt it. Information is power and listening to msnbc will keep you living in the past. Bush did a lot of things I disagreed with him on. But he never tried to divide a country along racial lines liie this clown has done. I would give anything to have carter in office over obama but there are too many stupid people that can’t see past the color of ths liars skin. Enjoy socialism people. You have no idea how many generations you are going to ruin my putting this empty shell back in 0ffice.
        at least he can still go hang out with jayz and beyounce during our next embassy attack. Priorities and priorities after all. God help us all since Obama doesn’t believe in God.

      • Deerinwater

        Mike says; “Anyone who votes for someone just because of their skin color is a racist.”

        Well that is true Mike, in much the same way that anyone that “wouldn’t vote ” for someone because of skin color is a racist.

        Your posting is loaded with “racism” and clearly you are racist as well, ~ which is okay ~ as most people are on so level, ~ but most people manage it contain it, while some people feed it with anger and then attempt to deny it. Can you explain that?

      • Jeff

        “Yew, there is still racism in the country”

        That is obvious when one reads these blogs.

      • Shavager

        Jeff, we have a NATION hater as president, BaROKE OWEbumbler said in his book “Audacity of Hope” page 261: “I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION.” How much UGLIER can it get with 2700+ Americans MURDERED BY MUSLIMS ON 9/11?? How much UGLIER can it get with 13 MORE Americans MURDERED BY A MUSLIM AT FORT HOOD or an American Ambassador RAPED, TORTURED, MURDERED BY MUSLIMS in Libya?? He is telling us “God Bless America” TO OUR FACE and “Allahu Akbar” BEHIND OUR BACKS! He is ARMING the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda affiliates with weapons–Syrian rebels are armed with American Stinger missiles–reported by Russian news agencies and the NY Times has reported the Muslim Brotherhood connection to OWEbumbler’s weapons connection. TWO HOURS after the Libyan attacks OWEbumbler KNEW the Ansar al-Sharia terrorist group was claiming responsibility, HE LIED TO AMERICA for two weeks about a protest over an anti-Islamic video that NO ONE but the OWEbumbler administration has talked about. Video of the attack on our American embassy and MURDER of 4 Americans–HE WENT TO BED WITHOUT EVER SENDING HELP!! His EXCUSE for the FBI not getting to scene of the MURDERS for two weeks–the FBI couldn’t get visas!! HE IS AIDING THE MUSLIM TAKEOVER OF MIDEAST COUNTRIES!

      • Samdromeda

        Don’t worry. Europe is going to do another Crusade with the blessing of Rome. T hey will take over the Middle East while our Oil Baron president is shipping oil and liquid natural gas to China and laughing all the way to the bank. If anyone disagrees we have privatized prisons with investors who laugh all the way to the bank. Europe will be keeping a close check on us. We have joint military cooperation, a German base, on American soil. You will become the property of the state under eminent domain. The corporations already own your land. All the owners thereof have to do is take it. Wherever there is oil the people will be moved aside at minimal cost. Fascism is coming to America. I disagree with Mitt on one point. Corporations are not people. Corporations are property. The employees are property also. States Rights are really the rights of the corporations to control develop and exploit. If you do not believe me check your state laws. They stop local communities from protecting themselves from the chaos that the oil companies did in Venezuela. Let a local state Governor put oil interests under state control and he will die like the former leader of Libya. There are powerful forces in our government that will sell mom, apple pie and the girl you left behind in order to maintain free reign over resources, food production and birthright. The downside is drought and flooding and wildfires. But let the oil flow by all means. We will build our military to protect our oil while it is being sold to China by business interests who psychologically lay the reason for our national INDEBTEDNESS
        on the backs of the people and actually attempt to turn them against one another through our political process. The president may reign but he does not rule. He is an administrative inconvenience that captains of industry and the Pentagon endure. Exploiters love to keep the people sedated and distracted so that they do not wake up and
        make them stop with extreme prejudice.

      • shavager

        Samdromeda, we’re tired of ya’ll on the left making these claims about “oil guy” president and “crusades” against muslims–radical Islamic govts. are taking over mid-east countries–THEY ARE NOT PEACEFUL!! The Indians killed Custer because they didn’t like him–MUSLIMS are killing Americans because they hate us, they hate anybody who’s not a muslim. OWEbumbler has driven up EVERY AMERICAN’S cost of gas and energy prices with his moratorium on oil drilling, obstruction of the Keystone pipeline,refusing to renew coal mine contracts, reduction of oil production ON PROPERTY OWNED BY AMERICANS. He BLEW $90 BILLION on “green energy” companies–of the top 36 companies that got Fed TAX dollars–21 ARE BANKRUPT and the other 15 are ON VERGE OF BANKRUPTCY! Just a few: Solyndra $535Million, A123 Systems $279Million, LG Chem $151Million, Solar Trust got $2.1BILLION to build world’s FIRST solar powered plant, Abound Solar $400MILLION,ENER1 $118.5MILLION, LSP Energy $2.1BILLION, Azure Dynamics $120MILLION–ALL OF THESE ARE BANKRUPT!! The U.S. could spread windmills and solar panels from coast to coast–it would only provide 5% OF U.S. ENERGY NEEDS. U.S. has abundant fuel sources HERE–it’s time to use national resources, END OPEC IMPORTS AND BILLIONS OF EXPORTED DOLLARS USED TO SUPPORT TERRORISM and SPEND IT HERE IN U.S.

      • Samdromeda

        Your post proved my point. You need a more gestalt view. Nothing I said was liberal. But then again you probably do not know what a conservative is. A house divided cannot stand. Your vote does not matter in the grander scheme of things. The supreme Court can override the electoral college. You have been thoroughly brainwashed. Re read my post. I have read both of yours. The election will not change our national impetus towards oblivion but the oil companies will succeed because they have the power through the constitution and state laws. There is no private anything. People can be moved off of their land just as sure as the Native Americans were moved off of their land. There is no political party that can prevent this. Mitt knows this. Elections are about building a negative case against your opponent. It is a competition after-all. Team building is a part of that process and to be an effective team member you must thoroughly believe what is said. If any message becomes unfavorable we can just Etch-A-Sketch it away and float something else. It is a process of convincing and influencing. That after-all is a part of the definition of brainwashing. Everything has form and function apart from party rhetoric, which is a tool in the ether of the nebulous process. Be informed but do not be a pansy.

      • shavager

        Samdromeda, don’t preach me your “doomsday”, federal govt owns everything mantra. Where were YOU when OWEbumbler signed executive order 13528 establishing “Council of Governors” (Jan 11, 2010) for SYNCHRONIZING and INTEGRATING state and federal military activities IN the U.S. combining National Guard, homeland defense and civilian support activities? Military has no business “synchronizing or integrating” with civilian law enforcement except in only very limited exceptions allowed by the Posse Comitatus Act. Where was your outrage when OWEbumbler signed the National Defense Authorization Act after we were told he opposed it, then when he signed it we were told it wouldn’t be used against American citizens because it didn’t apply and when he ADMITTED it applied to citizens, he said he would not choose to use it. It’s so vaguely worded even the ACLU, Mother Jones, Huffington Post and other lefwing groups are opposing it BECAUSE IT AUTHORIZES FEDS to DETAIN, INCARCERATE AND HOLD YOU INDEFINITELY even if you are an American citizen despite claims it doesn’t apply. Under this administration Bible groups have been arrested in Michigan for handing out Bibles, College Dean at Fla International University wants students who believe in God and Creation FAILED and not allowed to graduate, while in Minnesota teachers will use a two day conference for using dolls for diversity games and attend workshop on how to teach ISLAM in social studies and world religion. Meanwhile in Virginia a teacher who has been promoting OWEbumbler in her classroom, previously tried indoctrinating students in Islamic thought and prays to Allah in front of her students, has been arrested and charged with assault on a 10 year old student whose arm she jerked, causing an injury that dripped blood, while trying to force the girl to participate in an Islamic hand sign. The girl has a disorder and was unable to meet the teacher’s demands. And in Minnesota, Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison calls a former U.S. Marine Major who’s a candidate competing for his office “low-life scumbag” and “gutter dweller” as well as “liar” and “stupid” during a debate with retired Major Chris Fields. THE UNCIVILITY inspired by a president who said “I want you to argue with them and get in their face”–Sept 17,’08 and “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”—June 14,2008.

      • Samdromeda

        I did not say that the government owns everything . Do not put words in my mouth. Where were you when these events happened? Yes the world is destabilized and there is an increase in the degeneration of human behavior and character. It will continue to happen because [1.] A nation divided cannot stand and [2.]everyone is doing what seems right in their own eyes. That includes all the individuals in government and both political parties. Homeland Security is universally applied. 911 was the trigger. The order the president signed was just a link in the chain. There was a president that said that Americans are becoming ungovernable. He Launched Homeland Security. Be assured government of and by and for the people institute means to control the people so that business can go on as usual. We are having crop failures. Which candidate will bring us into a state that balances the weather? When idolatry enters our political process beware.
        The priests of some of these shed blood and feel justified in doing so. How many virgins will you sacrifice to the volcano of the American Political Process?

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        Just because you like to look back to your Edsel as the ultimate in personal transportation, some of us under 80 look forward to more efficient uses of energy and to the use of renewable sources of energy. Oil is a diminishing and increasingly expensive resource. If we exploited every inch of drillable land in the U.S., do you think the price of gas would diminish sufficiently to offset the diminution in lifestyle? I don’t think a 10c reduction in the price of gasoline is much of a trade-off against having oil derricks in everybody’s yard. We’re not going back to sub-$1.00 per gallon gasoline no matter how much you wish it could happen.

        Think of those Little Bumblers to come. They might like to live on a planet where the ice caps are intact and where historic coastal areas (like Florida) remain as they’ve been throughout recorded history. I know, you don’t believe in global warming because you dislike Al Gore. You know who used to believe in actual science before the Tea Party convinced them that pretend ignorance was the way to go? John McCain and Mitt Romney.

        All that being said, oil production is up in the U.S. Companies that held onto federal oil leases without using them are being forced to fish or cut bait. Yes, there was a moratorium on deep oil drilling following the worst environmental disaster in U.S. history. It’s called sanity, something you know little about. Your favorite politicians actually apologized to BP because Obama “forced” them to pay for their mess. I suppose W wouldn’t have? “I’m sorry all that water got in the way of your oil.”

      • Shavager

        Jeff, we have enough oil reserves to supply U.S. for the next 120-200 YEARS–America will have adapted to new renewable energy sources LONG before then. Hundreds of trucking companies have converted to natural gas but gas remains the cheapest affordable source for majority of Americans. There is NO national structure to serve electric cars across the U.S. and citizens are NOT buying up those autos. OWEbumbler gave $2.1 BILLION to Solar Trust for the world’s LARGEST SOLAR PLANT–Solar Trust CLOSED in BANKRUPTCY on April 12 this year! Only 7,671 Chevy Volts were sold in 2011, FEDS and OWEbumbler bought a large number of them in a “stealth” bailout. Reuters News Service reports Chevy LOSES nearly $50,000 ON EVERY VOLT SOLD! UH, Jeff–LG Chem and A123 Energy–manufacturers of the Volt’s electric battery ARE BOTH BANKRUPT! OWEbumbler LIED IN HIS HEART with his claim that more oil production has happened under his administraton–MOST of the increase in production has happened in the Bakken oil reserve in Montana and North Dakota ON PRIVATE LAND BY PRIVATE COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS. He has CUT production on OUR FEDERAL LANDS by 50% and the MORATORIUM in gulf YOU claim is because of the Gulf spill–HE’S ILLEGALLY VIOLATING FEDERAL COURT ORDER TO RE-OPEN THOSE WELLS, the spill is LONG past and no longer any problem. By the way Jeff, Deepwater Horizon spill was in 5000 foot deep water, YOUR president BORROWED $2 BILLION to give to communist Brazil to DRILL OIL 15 MILES DEEP in the ocean–IF he claims it’s a threat to environment with drilling about 3 MILES deep at the Deepwater Horizon-WHY would he want Brazil drilling 5 TIMES DEEPER–and a spill from those wells off Brazil would be a FAR BIGGER DISASTER AND HARDER TO SHUT OFF OR CONTROL!

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        Maybe Obama is satisfied that neither BP nor Halliburton will be involved in the drilling off the coast of Brazil. And the oil produced in the U.S. is not for us alone. It goes to the world market where there’s lots of oil from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Canada, Russia, etc. Our production will not have a great deal of impact on the world price of oil.

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        I’ve so missed your charming repartee. Did you put in a wake-up call for two weeks before the election? Make sure you go to the polls to keep those Blacks, Mexicans, students, and poor-looking old folks from voting. Heck, Rick Scott will probably let you bring your shotgun. After all, it’s in such a good cause!

        Still crazy after all these months? Obama is still a jihadist in your view. Colin Powell endorsed Obama again. Didn’t you used to think he was “one of the good ones”? What do you think the quote from page 261 means? Obviously, to you it means Obama has declared war on the U.S. To a sane person, its meaning is quite clear. Obama will defend the rights of Muslims to live as Muslims in the U.S. regardless how many Bumbling Bigots decide to blame the actions of bin Laden & co. on any “Muslim-looking” person they can find. Half the time you morons attack Sikhs thinking they’re Muslims.

        Remember the Neimoller passage:

        When the Nazis came for the communists,
        I remained silent;
        I was not a communist.

        When they locked up the social democrats,
        I remained silent;
        I was not a social democrat.

        When they came for the trade unionists,
        I did not speak out;
        I was not a trade unionist.

        When they came for the Jews,
        I remained silent;
        I wasn’t a Jew.

        When they came for me,
        there was no one left to speak out.

        I believe the quote you are using to accuse Obama of disloyalty is in the same vein.

      • truesoy

        Jeff..

        Once again I feel compelled to respond to Uncle Bumbler’s post.
        He/she seems to be a person in need of a justification to ‘hate’ withouth appearing ‘reacial’.
        His claimed that he read the ‘audacity of hope’ written by Obama is light yers away from the truth. He seems to be ‘parroting’ some ‘right-wing’ talking points, that’s all.
        It is simply not true that Obama ever wrote ‘he found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother’s race’. The other statement that Uncle Bumbler quotes is not exactly the way it was written and it changes what Obama actually wrote.
        Maybe some research by Uncle Bumbler would have produced the facts, but instead he chose to take at face value that that would re-inforced a set of beliefs he’s alredy suscribed to.
        Jeff, go to Snopes.com. Therfe you’ll find the answer, and if still in doubt get the book.
        Maybe Uncle Bumbler could do the same, but I doubt it. He hates to burst his bubble.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Jeff

        I bought the book, probably in 2008, but I haven’t read it all. I’ll check out Snopes, and maybe they identify the passages the right wing is so eager to bastardize.

      • shavager

        Jeff, you should check out JZ Knight-the “mystic” teacher formerly know as Judith Darlene Hampton and her virulent anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, anti-homosexual RANTS on youtube. She’s a BIG OWEbumbler, DemocRAT party supporter who threatened Catholics: “We will come on you in a terror. We will bring…St. Peter’s church down and we will swallow it in the sea”. She has donated more than $120,000 to DemocRAT party and OWEbumbler campaign, was photographed with OWE back in Sept. last year at campaing event. She maintains she talks with a Lemurian warrior “Ramtha” who lived more than 35,000 years ago and runs the school “Ramtha’s School of Enlightenment” in Yelm, Washington–the video made at a Washington state event was vulgar, profane and antagonistic toward Catholics, Jews, and homosexuals. So much for OWEbumbler’s followers and DemocRATS NOT being RACISTS. Sound like a bunch of looney, cult followers.

      • Jeff

        I don’t know anything about her, but assuming she’s saying the things you suggest, she sounds nutty. I would say she represents the tiniest sliver of Obama supporters. Now, ask yourself this. Of the good old boys (you probably know some) who don’t like Blacks, can’t stand Mexicans, and aren’t too fond of Jews or ethnic Catholics, do you think most will vote for Romney or Obama?

      • Shavager

        Jeff, I’m a registered democrat voter, have been for nearly 40 years now–the DemocRAT party is full of those kinds of people! Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN, former KKK member late Senator Robt Byrd of Va. was a DemocRAT, Al Gore’s daddy who refused to support any civil rights legislation DIED a DemocRAT. GOP just elected two black Congressmen, Alan West and Tim Scott, not long ago Indian ancestry governor Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal were elected, black mayor Mia Love of Saratoga Springs, Utah is now running for the House of Representatives and who can forget HERMAN CAIN, former presidential candidate who won several primaries–ALL WITH REPUBLICAN VOTES!

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        So you’re the last surviving segregationist democrat? Congratulations on your longevity. Now, who was the last Democrat you voted for for president? Strom? George? How about Jimmy Carter, a southerner?

        I think we’ve covered this “southern strategy” history before but in case there’s anyone under 50 reading this (highly unlikely): No white southerner would vote Republican for 100 years after the Civil War because Lincoln was a Republican. Therefore, all the racist segregationists were democrats and southern Blacks tended to be Republicans. Those southern democrats were an embarrassment to the northern party, so the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts were passed by Northern Democrats and Republicans. Because LBJ was a democrat, the democrats got most of the credit/blame for civil rights and, as LBJ accurately predicted, he ceded the South to the Republicans for at least a generation.

        Within a few years of passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, all the southern democrats became republicans, starting with Strom, and they soon became the base of the party. Meanwhile, the Republicans moved decidedly to the right, banishing all the Northern moderate Republicans (the Rockefeller folks) from the party.

        Robert Byrd was a KKK member early in his life and regretted it the rest of his life. But he made up for it over the last 40+ years of his life. He didn’t say he wished Strom Thurmond had been elected President in 1948 the way Trent Lott did. No, the “states rights” battle cry of the segregationists has been fully co-opted by the Republicans.

        So, why are you still a democrat? Why not follow the lead of Strom, Ronnie, and countless others?

        BTW: I checked out that woman and she seems a bit nutty, like a lot of religious folks just looking to separate the superstitious from their money, but I don’t see any references to anti-Semitism. You’ll have to “enlighten” me in that special Bumbler way you have.

      • Jeff

        Uncle Bumbler:

        Nearly 40 years? I’ve been voting for 40 years and assumed you first voted around the time of Noah. Does that mean you never got to vote for Tricky Dick?

      • deerinwater

        DaveH says:
        May 12, 2012 at 11:47 pm
        “Helping himself to other peoples’ money. You know, Deer, Theft.”

        LOL , okay ~ So what is it that makes the current thieving administration more a thief then past administrations David? Please enlighten me how this is occurring today that has not been standard practice by prior administrations, administrations that you more then likely voted for and supported.

        I’m looking forward to your reply David ~ I will wait here for your return.

    • Bob

      Wait a minute! Isn’t Obama also half white???

      • Jeff

        What a profound insight. Does that mean Romney is half human?

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