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Hastening The March To A North American Union And Global Governance

May 7, 2012 by  

Hastening The March To A North American Union And Global Governance
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The ultimate goal of the elites is to create a one world socialist government.

The march toward a union of the United States, Canada and Mexico — and ultimately global government — continues apace.

The ultimate goal of the elites is to create a one world socialist government. They have succeeded in combining most of Europe into a European Union (though the economic disaster there caused by the excessive corruption of the banksters, who overplayed their hands, may cause it to fly apart and the euro to crash). But even now we hear of a sinister plot by a covert group of EU foreign ministers who want to gain sweeping control over the entire EU and force member countries into ever-greater political and economic union.

The group holding the secret talks (excluding a representative from Great Britain) is called the “Berlin Group” of Europhile politicians and is being led by the German foreign minister. Its goal, according to opponents, is to create a modern-day equivalent of the European emperor envisioned by Napoleon Bonaparte or a return to the Holy Roman Empire of Charlemagne that dominated Europe in the Dark Ages.

“This is a plot by people who want to abolish nation states and create a United States of Europe,” said Lord David Stoddart of Swindon, who for many years chaired the Campaign for an Independent Britain. “The whole thing is barmy. These people are determined to achieve their final objective.”

The drive by the elites to form a united North America has been going on for many years and must be accomplished before the elites’ goal of global governance can be realized. It has been dismissed as conspiracy theory nuttery by the elites, even as they wrote policy papers and books on the subject. As we noted last year, cables released by WikiLeaks show that a single North America is the goal of the banksters and corporatist thieves.

But President Barack Obama, who was chosen to carry out this task by those who really rule the world, has worked hard to speed the process along. He was selected during a secret meeting with the Bilderberg group at its conference in Chantilly, Va., in June 2008. It’s a meeting that was not announced to the press pool covering the Obama campaign until the reporters had been locked on Obama’s campaign plane. Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs was glib with reporters who at the time protested the secrecy of the meeting. (The original Associated Press version of this story has been scrubbed from the Internet and only heavily edited versions can be found using Google.)

Recent executive orders signed by Obama with little or no coverage by the corporatist mainstream media reveal the progress of the elites’ intentions. One was signed in February 2011, and it was a major step in erasing the border between the United States and Canada. It was a continuation of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) that was begun by George W. Bush in 2005.

The second one signed by Obama last week under the guise of streamlining U.S. regulations to make it easier for U.S. companies to compete globally, makes the U.S. comport to regulations set by the world.

“Today’s executive order marks a paradigm shift for U.S. regulators by directing them to take the international implications of their work into account in a consistent and comprehensive way,” Sean Heather, vice president of the chamber’s Center for Global Regulatory Cooperation, said in an e-mailed statement, according to a report in Businessweek.com

In an April 30 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal, White House Regulation Czar Cass Sunstein wrote:

More generally, President Obama has worked closely with his Canadian and Mexican counterparts to create High-Level Regulatory Cooperation Councils with both countries. The councils are developing and implementing plans to eliminate or prevent the creation of unnecessary burdens on cross-border trade, streamline regulatory requirements, and promote greater certainty for the general public and for businesses in the regulation of food, pharmaceuticals, nanotechnology and other areas.

Obama is a globalist, as his Defense Secretary Leon Panetta revealed in a Congressional hearing when he said the Administration would defer to the U.N. and NATO rather than Congress when deciding when and where to send the U.S. military.

Obama’s actions have served to strengthen the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade Organization, all to the benefit of the banksters who control him and to the detriment of the people he’s supposed to represent. The IMF, World Bank and WTO are simply piggy banks for the corporatists to use to their benefit as they loot and pillage economies around the globe, as John Perkins points out in his book, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.

Of course, there will be many who will claim there is no evidence that America is in danger of being absorbed into the global community under the auspices of the U.N. or some as-yet devised agency. But that would be a denial of basic facts.  And, by the way, they were saying much the same about the EU at the time it was being created. The elites don’t go for Hail Marys; they do things incrementally. Gradualism is their game. They are patient, but insidious and determined liars.

Brookings Institution President Strobe Talbott, who was deputy Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, wrote in a 1992 Time Magazine article: “I’ll bet that within the next hundred years (I’m giving the world time for setbacks and myself time to be out of the betting game, just in case I lose this one), nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority.”

Bilderberger Henry Kissinger, speaking of the North American Free Trade Agreement, once said: “What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system… a first step toward a new world order.”

He believed Obama would be the one who would finally bring the new world order into being. In January 2009, days before Obama’s inauguration, Kissinger said: “The president-elect is coming into office at a moment when there is upheaval in many parts of the world simultaneously. You have India, Pakistan; you have the jihadist movement. So he can’t really say there is one problem, that it’s the most important one. But he can give new impetus to American foreign policy partly because the reception of him is so extraordinary around the world. His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period when, really, a new world order can be created. It’s a great opportunity, it isn’t just a crisis.”

And Obama knows what his job is. In a speech he delivered in Prague last year on nuclear weapons, Obama said, “All nations must come together to build a stronger, global regime.”

This new world order would end American sovereignty and turn America into nothing more than a socialist puppet state of the U.N. or some other as-yet revealed entity.

The elites are further along in Europe. It is a road map for where they want to move America.

Bilderbergers Again Meeting In Virginia

As mentioned earlier, the Bilderberg group met in Chantilly the summer prior to the 2008 election and selected Obama as the next President. So is it just a coincidence that the secretive confab of global movers and shakers is set to meet again in Chantilly this summer?

Bilderberg watchers have noted that the Westerfields Marriot Washington Dulles hotel, site of the Bilderberg meeting in both 2002 and 2008, is fully booked from May 31-June 3. The group meets annually to determine the big issues of the coming year.

But don’t expect any coverage from the corporatist MSM. They are merely mouthpieces for the establishment and know what they can and can’t say. And they aren’t invited unless they’ve proven themselves trustworthy.

“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years,” David Rockefeller said in a speech leaked from a Bilderberger meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in 1991. “It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

The growth of the alternative media on the Internet has slowed down that march. But the elites continue to work hard to get the Internet – and, therefore, the message — under their control.

More On Senator Marco Rubio

Florida Senator Marco Rubio is being heavily vetted by the global movers and shakers and Mitt Romney may soon have orders to name Rubio as his Vice President. In April, Rubio flew commercial to attend the Summit of the Americas. Even the less-than-forthcoming Washington Post found it curious that Rubio was the only Senator on the Senate Foreign Relations committee to attend the meeting, and that he went to such effort to get there.

Last week, I explained the ramifications of Rubio’s audition appearance before Brookings, a policy arm of the Bilderberg group. The Post pointed out the similarities between Rubio’s appearances and John Edwards’ appearance at the Bilderberg conference in 2004, just before he was selected as John Kerry’s running mate.

Watch for a Virginia trip by Rubio, if that’s indeed where the Bilderbergers hold their conference. This is further evidence of the fallacy of the left/right paradigm that consumes so much political discourse today.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Sarah R.

    It was at least three years ago that Glenn Beck briefly mentioned Bilderberg. I only remember him saying “I know what a Build-a-bear is but not a Bilderberg. David Rockefeller started Bilderberg in 1954 thinking their intelligence and money would bring a NWO. Everything that has happened to America; atheist agenda removing Christianity; GLBT support; same sex marriage; the destruction of the family; every president from LBJ was groomed, bought and paid for by the Bilderbergs with the exception of Ronald Reagen even including the trash you watch on TV has all been a grand scheme of the Bilderbergs and the uber rich I’m as guilty as the next man. I was politically asleep until Obama came upon the scene. George Soros told you that Romney was no different than Obama. Why didn’t you listen? Now they are telling you Rubio is being groomed. Are you going to listen now? David Rockefeller is somewhere in his 90s and he hopes to see this Global takeover before he dies and goes to hell. Hence, all their meetings have in the past been in the Netherlands. Lately they have been meeting in the US. They are so close to a takeover. America and Israel are the only thing blocking them from a total takeover. Our beliefs in the Lord Almiighty is the only thing stopping them. We have to unite and stop these insane people. America is better than what these people want.

  • Power To The People

    “D” I agree….not getting my protection. The Obummer lovers will lay down and pray for food and shelter from the benevolent big brother.

  • http://hbledbetter@gmail.com Henry Ledbetter

    I would advise all to search the scriptures for in them you can find AN ETERNAL LIFE that is far greater than anything this world has to offer. In the meantime, LORD GRANT US THE WISDOM to be in this world but not of this world system of destruction that has been described and planned.by the wicked that are setting themselves up as god. Rest assured that their folly will work to bring about their own destruction but sad to say much of the world will also be brought to destruction. Those that KNOW CHRIST and have a relationship with Him will be the winners when all is said and done. WE need to REPENT, to cast away all our transgressions, to get a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 18: 31).

    • MAP

      Sound advise, Henry!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      PRAY!!!

    • moonbeam

      Absolutely right, Henry. People may poo-poo it away and laugh, but they won’t be laughing when the proverbial stuff hits the fan. That’s when non-believers will cry out to God for help. He will say to them “I don’t know you.” Seek Him now while He may be found.

      Everything, and I mean everything that is happening today can be found in Bible Prophesy, which always has been and always will be 100% spot on. And STILL people think this great book with instructions for living means nothing….written thousands of years ago can’t possibly be relevant now. But au contraire! It is just as relevant now as it was in the days it was written.

    • charlie

      Henry,,,et al,,,
      Ezekiel 31 was written to the house of Israel ,,,are you one of the children of Israel ??? What is the Salvation Scripture from Peter ,,,one of the King’s Men,,,???try Acts 2:38 backed up with 1Peter 3:21…Who are the children of Israel today???
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing…

      • ohoh

        They’re not who the universalist Judeo-Christians say they are, and once revealed, it will be quite ironic.

  • D

    They can sign lots of binding documents with lots of fanfare & camera flashes recording it all, but they MUST eventually confiscate the arms of 50 to 100 million US citizens for them to bring us in.
    Won’t happen…

    • charlie

      D,,, et al,,,
      What happened at Ruby ridge ,,,what happened at Waco ??? are yo’all next???

  • Raggs

    If you would read the BIBLE you would understand what is happening and why.
    I hate oblama but I think in order for the biblical prophesy to be fullfilled oblama will have to be re-elected.

    • charlie

      Raggs,,,et al,,,
      King Jesus ,,,The King of America ,,, don’t need NO crossbreed to fullfill prophesy … You need some “Scripture” to back up your claim,,, could it be that you are just another false prophet christian among the many on this site??? Try the book of Obadiah …
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

  • Pastor

    Get ready for the anti-christ! He is on his way! Even so, come Lord Jesus.

    • Flashy

      good thing the majority of people in this nation aren’t christian so we don’t have to have this phobia eh?

      • FreedomFighter

        Your problem Flashman, I will pray for you, even though I know your to far gone.

        It ends badly for Lucys and Tares.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Flashy

        actually FF…I am merely applying the “test” cited last week by a post here on what makes someone a “christian” when asked about the contention President Obama is not a christian. . Applying the test, from the data it appears only 20% of Americans are ‘true christians” .

        Good thing eh? Minimizes those who have these insecurity feelings and talking about their phobias … a Second Coming, the rapture, Satan, etc …

      • FreedomFighter

        You judge a man by his actions, if his actions are christian…Obama’s action are not consistent with christians beliefs, though he would make a perfect MUSLIM

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Michael J.

        Flashy,
        Just for the record, 78% of Americans refer to themselves as Christians.

      • Flashy

        Michael … what they call themselves is not relevant according to what the ‘test’ was spelled out in determining whether President Obama was a christian. I am only reciting what a post detailed as the ‘test’ for being a christian…(supported by a cite from the Bible no less)

        So if that is what Pres. Obama should meet to determine his ‘christianity”, I would assume it applies to all

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It seems you have a phobia about Christians.

      • charlie

        Most people are not as smart as they THINK they are,,,IF,,, you are deceived how would you know it???

      • Michael J.

        Flashy,
        If research is indeed your field or hobby, why is it that you can not answer your own questions about Bilderberg???

      • Michael J.

        Flashy says:
        “I am only reciting what a post detailed as the ‘test’ for being a christian…(supported by a cite from the Bible no less)”

        Your grammar school gestapo attempt at festiciousness is an abysmal failure, don’t quit your day job.
        Oh… wait a minute… this is your day job.

    • charlie

      Pastor ,,, et al,,,
      Have you read The Holy Bible much??? check out 1John 2:22 and you may see the anti-christs have been around since King Jesus went out of sight ,,, now for “”"The”"” anti- christ ,,,he’s just another anti – christ in a holloween suit …
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing…

      • dawgbisquit1

        And you’re just another blltherin’ idiot chuck!!!

  • Flashy

    So much to comment on today’s writings by Mr. Livingston.

    First.
    ——-
    “… It’s a meeting that was not announced to the press pool covering the Obama campaign until the reporters had been locked on Obama’s campaign plane. Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs was glib with reporters who at the time protested the secrecy of the meeting. (The original Associated Press version of this story has been scrubbed from the Internet and only heavily edited versions can be found using Google.)”
    ———
    Okay….so there is this powerful secret yet not secret group that held a meeting and what was once posted on the ‘net is now heavily edited and the real version has disappeared. But….here’s what really happened.

    Mr. Livingston….I am only asking if the ‘net makes everything permanent, and certainly this Bilderburg group doesn’t yet have world domination as yet…just how does one know what really occurred during that meeting? is it supposition?
    =========

    Recent executive orders signed by Obama with little or no coverage by the corporatist mainstream media reveal the progress of the elites’ intentions. One was signed in February 2011, and it was a major step in erasing the border between the United States and Canada. It was a continuation of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) that was begun by George W. Bush in 2005.
    ————-
    Ummm…prior to Bush II sealing our borders and beginning to wall us in, open borders with Canada and Mexico had existed for decades. What used to be a drive and a wave through border crossing into Canada now is a drawn out process of showing passports, being checked, then receiving clearance. It is now an “international” border with all the Customs and Immigration procedures present. That biorder was, before Bush II and for decades before him…in name only. You criticize as some “conspiraracy” any move back to what existed ??? You call for the ongoing wall penning us in? Not only ongoing, but strengthen those walls?

    =========
    The second one signed by Obama last week under the guise of streamlining U.S. regulations to make it easier for U.S. companies to compete globally, makes the U.S. comport to regulations set by the world.
    ———-
    Well…it (the EO) doesn’t exactly do what is stated here. I am surprised at this one Mr. Livingston. What this EO does is establish a study group of representatives from fed agencies of State and Commerce AND industry, to study how to streamline and establish a standard for measurements and regulations which will make it easier for export from domestic manufacturing plants producing products for the domestic markets. A study group, nothing more.

    Hopefully resulting in recommendations to Congress to set more uniform standards. Imagine..being able to take a cell phone across borders and having it work, having a credit card that works overseas with a swipe, ATMs overseas dispensing cash from ones bank back home. heck…someone posted a tidbit last week about VW having an engine that attains a high gas mileage, available around the world but here.

    So, in this technological age…working for that uniformity to ease trade and reduce regulation is viewed as part of an overall evil conspiracy?
    =========

    Unless one wants to revert backwards, and prevent the US from stepping up and maintaining the leadership role it has throughout the world, then there has to be acceptance of one inescapable fact. We are entering an environment of a world without borders. It may take the next 200 years, but it is an inescapable fact if we as a society and civilization are to progress.

    Even now the “border walls” are falling. Once a month i have to be sharply dressed at 11:00 at night holding a vid call with counterparts as well as realize the date differences (OK, follow up on Friday. Whose Friday? yours or mine?) . I am by far not unusual in this aspect.

    It won’t be “secret societies’ or governments moving the world closer together into one overall society…it will be the People. take the Arab Spring. Unimaginable without the instant communication of the internet and cell phones. Yet..it spread across the borders trampling with ease over the roadblocks the dictators put up attempting to prevent its spread. The ones who will be against a unified world society/ the very ones claimed to be creating one. governments and ‘secret societies’. Why and for what reason would they want to cede whatever power they have and share it with other governments? For such a society as the internet and modern technology is enabling the People works against the regionalization and nationalistic reasons for a State to exist and to have “power” and “influence”.

    The goal, as i see it, for Americans is to maintain our dominance on the world stage so our children and grandchildren grow up leading a world based on American values, mores and culture. Not that of another country.

    • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

      How can this possibly be research for Flashman’s “Job” – :)

      • Karolyn

        Liberty – He could be employed in any number of industries. Who really cares?

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        He’s very very concerned that we understand that he’s only here to do research…. :)
        So the answer is flashy flashman cares. I would guess many of us just view him as a joke -

      • JeffH

        Libertytrain, ain’t that the truth.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        jeff – :) but he must have a fan in karolyn….

      • Karolyn

        I find some of what Flashy writes to be quite interesting. It’s also a plus when rather than refute his assertions with fact, conservatives make fun or put him down. Does that not mean they have nothing to say on the matter? I do not agree with everything he says, but his remarks do provide balance for the thinking person to ponder rather than just accept something posted by an established conserative poster here as gospel. Unlike so many, I know I do not have all the answers; and am always working at coming up with my own conclusions.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        there are several liberals on this board not “put down” – Flashy isn’t one of them because he has been found to be an absolute phoney in the very least and much worse. Your prerogative to enjoy his writings is just that – your prerogative.

      • Opal the Gem

        ” It’s also a plus when rather than refute his assertions with fact, conservatives make fun or put him down.”

        Karolyn a big part of the reason he is made fun of or put down is Flashy has been proven to be a lier many times over. He has been proven to use “facts” drawn out of thin air on many occasions.

    • TML

      Flashy says, “Okay….so there is this powerful secret yet not secret group that held a meeting and what was once posted on the ‘net is now heavily edited and the real version has disappeared. … … I am only asking if the ‘net makes everything permanent, and certainly this Bilderburg group doesn’t yet have world domination as yet…just how does one know what really occurred during that meeting? is it supposition?”

      It didn’t say a powerful secret group, it said secret meeting with the Bilderberg Group. And it didn’t say the meeting was once posted on the net, it said the version of the story from Associated Press was posted on the net, but the original can no longer be found. Seeing as how it was a secret meeting, what occurred during such meeting can indeed, only be presupposed. Missing your morning coffee, Flashy?

      Flashy says, “Ummm…prior to Bush II sealing our borders and beginning to wall us in, open borders with Canada and Mexico had existed for decades. What used to be a drive and a wave through border crossing into Canada now is a drawn out process of showing passports, being checked, then receiving clearance. It is now an “international” border with all the Customs and Immigration procedures present. That biorder was, before Bush II and for decades before him…in name only. You criticize as some “conspiraracy” any move back to what existed ??? You call for the ongoing wall penning us in? Not only ongoing, but strengthen those walls?”

      A agree with that… although, I don’t see our national borders as “walls penning us in”, and do agree with strengthening those borders rather than the ‘walls’ of other countries around the globe. We should strengthen our borders, while admitting trade… which seemed to be refused with things such as the pipeline from Canada.

      Flashy says, “Well…it (the EO) doesn’t exactly do what is stated here. I am surprised at this one Mr. Livingston. What this EO does is establish a study group of representatives from fed agencies of State and Commerce AND industry, to study how to streamline and establish a standard for measurements and regulations which will make it easier for export from domestic manufacturing plants producing products for the domestic markets. A study group, nothing more.”

      Nothing more? But did you in your own words just say, “to study how to streamline and ESTABLISH a standard for measurements and regulations”…? I don’t know about you but an Executive Order that established a “study group” to establish regulations regarding international trade, in to the hand of a few incompetent bureaucrats… it’s just asking for trouble.

      Flashy says, “Hopefully resulting in recommendations to Congress to set more uniform standards. Imagine..being able to take a cell phone across borders and having it work, having a credit card that works overseas with a swipe, ATMs overseas dispensing cash from ones bank back home. heck…someone posted a tidbit last week about VW having an engine that attains a high gas mileage, available around the world but here.”

      But this isn’t reducing regulation; it’s creating more in which to ‘govern’ such capability before allowing it. You started with hoping Congress sets MORE uniform standards. Besides, it seems to me that cell phone working across borders depends on the service you have from your provider. My work-issued blackberry will function pretty much anywhere in the world. ATM’s? Personally, I don’t trust backs as it is, and don’t care to such ease… when I travel I go prepared, and if you do use backs, travels checks work just fine and very secure.

      Flashy says, “So, in this technological age…working for that uniformity to ease trade and reduce regulation is viewed as part of an overall evil conspiracy?”

      When it’s the government dictating it, yes. The government needs to get out of the way… that will ease trade and reduce regulation. I think Ayn Rand was right when she said, “there should be a separation of State and economy the same as there is separation of church and State”.

      Flashy says, “Unless one wants to revert backwards, and prevent the US from stepping up and maintaining the leadership role it has throughout the world, then there has to be acceptance of one inescapable fact. We are entering an environment of a world without borders.”

      That is not the least bit true. America will remain the leadership role based on it own merit of production and industry, and can do that with less government interference and regulation. Government only legitimate role is to restrain men from inuring others, and otherwise leave them free in their own pursuits of happiness and industry, mediate State disputes, and provide for the common defense… that’s it, nothing more… no regulations that help industries gain monopolies, or manipulate economics.

      Flashy says, “It may take the next 200 years, but it is an inescapable fact if we as a society and civilization are to progress.”

      I would call your imperialist ideas more to reverting to the past, and is certainly not an inescapable fact for society to progress. To move forward, we must respect sovereignty, customs, culture, of all nations and people, and trade with them freely without the ambitions of government interference in economic trade.

      Flashy says, “It won’t be “secret societies’ or governments moving the world closer together into one overall society”

      All of human history disagrees with you.

      Flashy says, “…it will be the People. take the Arab Spring. Unimaginable without the instant communication of the internet and cell phones. Yet..it spread across the borders trampling with ease over the roadblocks the dictators put up attempting to prevent its spread. The ones who will be against a unified world society/ the very ones claimed to be creating one. governments and ‘secret societies’. Why and for what reason would they want to cede whatever power they have and share it with other governments?”

      The only ones that will oppose it will be the ones at the bottom. You advocate the United States being the leadership role, and so your remain ignorant to the fact that other nations will indeed not be so willing to cede their power, not even the people of those nations to cede their sovereignty, to what you perceive as the only culture that should dominate the earth… yours.

      Flashy says, “For such a society as the internet and modern technology is enabling the People works against the regionalization and nationalistic reasons for a State to exist and to have “power” and “influence”.”

      Internet and modern technology, free trade, does not dissolve the need, or even desire, for sovereignty, and preservation of cultures and people.

      Flashy says, “The goal, as i see it, for Americans is to maintain our dominance on the world stage so our children and grandchildren grow up leading a world based on American values, mores and culture. Not that of another country.”

      The goal as I see it is to separate government from economics to allow America to maintain such economic dominance on it own merit of industry and improvement, and not by force, with military bases all over the globe, regulating everything, and respecting the values, morals, and cultures, of those who are different.

      • TML

        Ouy… backs = banks
        Looks like I need more coffee to, lol

  • sueted

    Stash your weapons you will need them.

    • Michael J.

      For those of you about to read Flashy’s daily putzing below, know this…
      When he asks questions like the one below about the Bilderberg meetings, he knows full well what the answers are. The real intent is to reveal methods of research and implicate responders. He is after all a compensated advocate of the tyranical administrations lust for power at any cost. Be forewarned!

  • dave

    i remember some time ago , i signed a petition not to have a park in the neighborhhod. way to expensive for the land. now the land is one third the price and now they are thinking again odf buying that piece of property, because its cheaper. What i am saying is that it is not the time to have a one world government for obvious reasons. Maybe down the line like two hundred years from now. With all these backword dictators, and so on, why would this country even think about this, but then of course its the very dicators that want in the first place.

    • DaveH

      Would-be tyrants advocate moving Government as far away from the People as they can. The further Government is from the people they govern, the less constraints they have to their Power.

  • MAP

    The problems I see in this coming socialist union are three: Russia, China, and Iran. They will not stand by and watch this happen. Nor will they join. The American empire is crumbling along with the EU. Can this delusional and bankrupt empire afford a world war? I believe that is exactly what it will lead to. Our delusional, greedy and corrupt overlords cannot win such a conflict, but that fact may not stop their attempt. Our foreign policy up to this point illustrates the work of ideological madmen. Our future is very perilous and uncertain.

  • dan

    It won’t matter what they call it …patriots will be in the re-education camps unless
    Ron Paul wins….on the other hand,it’ll be a handy place for the current occupants and partisans of the police state. Should a REAL “Natural”disaster befall us , we’ll all be going tribal.
    ….not that Obama or Romney and WWIII won’t be bad news.

  • RUSerious

    LOL! One World Government… Fear mongering and paranoia among the weak minded…

    • FreedomFighter

      Pull your head out of the sand, NWO is a fact of life, no longer in the shadow.

      Invisible Empire A New World Order Defined

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • DaveH

      Weak-minded is the man (or woman) who fails to investigate all possibilities, and who fails to understand the Power aspirations of the Sociopathic segment of our Society. Just reading that one book (A History of Money and Banking) that I’ve posted a link to twice on this board, should awaken any intelligent human being to the manipulations of the Leaders and their Crony Capitalists.
      Here is one that should awaken any intelligent human to the extreme amount of Propaganda we’ve all endured at the hands of those who prefer us to believe that a Powerful Central Government is the answer to our problems. Unfortunately, you’ll have to pay for this one (or borrow a copy from your Library):
      https://mises.org/store/Product2.aspx?ProductId=172

    • charlie

      Very Serious,,, weak minds will become stronger IN obediance to King Jesus at Matthew 6:33,,,then obey Peter at Acts 2:38 to become one of The King’s Men …

  • http://wewontforget.wordpress.com wewontforget

    And not a peep about Marco Rubio not being a natural born citizen. Neither of his parents were citizens when he was born. Another usurper in the White House and we re-write history once again. The definition of NBS is clearly documented (PARENTS must be citizens at the time of your birth on American soil) but in order to put communists in the White House we just turn the other way. The American people are just as much at fault for their ignorance as the elected officials that know exactly what they are doing. The article said in 100 years we will see a world with no borders is way wrong. It will happen MUCH sooner than that. I predict Obama will be elected again in November (not by an honest vote of the people but by rampant voter fraud) and the fall of our country will be finalized by the end of his second term. Obama will rule until his death of old age. WAKE UP and put the only man in DC that is on our side……..RON PAUL. You will be so sorry if either Obama or Romney is elected. Romney is supported by the same puppet masters as Obama. He will just give the illusion that things are going to be reversed in order to put us all back to sleep. Either one will eventually help (Romney) or achieve (Obama) the fall of this country. Obama will make it happen faster and if there is a hint that the American people are getting out of hand…..in steps Romney to quiet things down but moving toward the NWO just the same. THIS ELECTION IS OUR LAST CHANCE. And I feel the American people have not yet felt enough pain to do what needs to be done. By the time you feel the real pain it will be too late.

    • Sirian

      wewontforget,
      Good point! That is something that the majority doesn’t know since it hasn’t been brought out as it should be. He holds full eligibility to be a Senator but that’s that. Presidential? No, he cannot be our President due to his ineligibility via not being a FULL “natural born citizen”. His parents had not been “naturalized” at the time of his birth. They were at a later date, but not when he was born. So that pulls the plug on him reaching any office above where he is at this time. It would be to his advantage if he were to admit this fact to the public, constituency and all. He could accomplish a great deal by becoming a very well known “Constitutional Senator”. What we must keep an eye on though is whether or not this eligibility fact will be side-stepped, conveniently, as Obummer has accomplished. Wait and see. . .

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston
      • Sirian

        Bob,
        Both articles were very good “heads up” concerning Marco’s eligibility limits but unfortunately there still remains such an expansive excess of people that either don’t know or better yet, don’t want to know these facts. Try to imagine what levels of resistance would be raised by the Democrats and their ever loyal MSM if he were chosen to be Romney’s VP. Seriously doubt that that, chosen as VP candidacy, will come about but if by some wild chance it did, Lord stand back!! The news wires would be running red hot until he withdraws. Oh yes, your other article concerning NAU – OUTSTANDING!!! :)

      • Flashy

        I believe being born here, Rubio is fully eligible to hold the office of POTUS. I believe any other reading of the Constitution twists the intent of those who wrote that document and those who formed our government and were instrumental in establishing the precedents which have been relied upon since.

        To state both parents must be citizens of the US at the time of the child’s birth for that child to be eligible for the office would mean at least two generations must pass. To hold both parents must be citizens and the child born in the US is saying there is not a belief that one born and raised in this country would hope to hold the nationalism and patriotism and cultural mores which binds this nation together. I reject that notion and so, I believe, do the vast overwhelming majority of Americans.

      • Sirian

        Uh oh, sorry ‘bout that. . . meant “this article”, NOT, the “other article”. My mistake, again, sorry ‘bout that.

      • Opal the Gem

        Flushy if we take your argument to its logical conclusion then anyone born in the US no matter who the parents are is elgible to be elected president.

      • Flashy

        Opal…as long as they did not renounce their citizenship…you would be correct. That is my understanding and interpretation of the Constitutional requirements regarding eligibility for POTUS.

        think about it. When the Nation was first formed, those who became Americans via the Independence are ‘grandfathered” in. That’s it. So either those who were instrumental in the formation of government or in setting precedence intended a generation to be skipped (say those born in 1790 through 1810?), unlikely, then what remains is the ONLY reasonable interpretation.

      • Opal the Gem

        Flushy that means the children of say the Iranian ambasador to the UN would be elgible to be president if he/she were born in the US. It means the child of the Chinese ambasador to the US would be elgible to be president in he/she were born in the US. That means the child of an illegal alien raised anywhere else in the world would be elgible to be president as long as they were born in the US.

      • eddie47d

        If they renounced their citizenship of their home country and used their US birth certificate to become a US citizen I would believe that is possible.

      • ohoh

        There is nothing ambiguous about the rule or the reasons behind it for those who take the time to read the record left by the founders and the courts. Rubio is not qualified except in the eyes of the distortionists who trash the rule of law for their own ideological purposes.

    • Patty

      What I don’t understand is that how long have they been courting Marco Rubio? Has not anyone ever said no (to the NWO, Bilderberg, Illuminati, whatever you want to call them)? Buzz off? Other than the theory behind the assination of JFK? That would lead to the assumption that Americans have never had a true election since, who knows when. Just like big corporations who donate to both sides of the isle, it really doesn’t matter who gets in, they have already been put in place (for either side)and the idea that Americans “elected” someone is just BS anyways. If this is true, what the heck are we waiting for to see what happens? The writing is on the wall.

  • Scott A

    I’d like you to all think a little on the “How” they may accomplish this. Consider food, how dependent are YOU on the grocery store supplying you food? 100%? 80%? For most people, it is between those 2. Cut off the food supply with economic disaster and most will do, say and vote for whatever will get their belly full. Good to hear Patriots here wanting to preserve America, but you need to eat to defend. A garden will be raided by hungry neighbors at night. Stock food now, and look into Aquaponics – indoor growing. Consider using your garage with a few skylights. Time to get serious.

  • czman

    Everyone already knows what needs to be done…There are more patriotic Americans in this country than there are in DC. Lets get this show on the road and get our country
    back on the right road…Time to water the Tree of Liberty is at hand!

    • Susan Gallen

      I’m afraid this is not happening. Our children are being indoctrinated. They have no knowledge of history or rather they learn a reinvented form, one that always emphasizes America’s flaws and not her great accomplishments. The young have no sense of patriotism.

      • Patty

        And what do you teach your children when they are not being indoctrinated by the schools? It starts at home. Start teaching them about their freedoms and our Constitution. They sure are not going to learn it in a socialist school.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Patty, I like your point about what we teach our children when they aren’t being indoctrinated in school. The most important years of a child’s life for learning happens before they get to school. They start this process as they begin to understand spoken language. If we don’t teach them they’ll learn from somewhere.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Well said Patty! If they won’t teach our children the truth Susan, then it is up to us!!!

    • eddie47d

      Patriotism like Nationalism can be a false God and isn’t always in the best interest of a nation. How many wars from the Elites do we have to endure in the name of Patriotism. How much security and individual freedoms do we have to loose in the name of Patriotism. Buyer beware for patriotism can be a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

      • DaveH

        Wow, let me savor this moment. For once Eddie has said something intelligent.

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        Patriotism is a righteous cause to those who possess it. Even if we have been lied to for the last 150 years, that does not dilute Americans love of country. We need to cast aside the R’s and D’s to focus on the real culprits. The elites responsible number in the thousands, we number in the billions.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. A rare moment of weakness for you? This is really just another “blind” comment from eddie.

      • independant thinker

        ” How much security and individual freedoms do we have to loose in the name of Patriotism.”

        While there is truth in what you say as much or even more freedoms are lost in the name of “security”. I would even go so far as saying we have lost security in the name of “security”.

      • Michael J.

        JeffH,
        I’ve heard the cliche before, but I’m not sure of your intended context. Let me get this straight, did you mean to say that a blind squirel has found eddie?

      • JeffH

        Michael J., the blind squirrel = eddie

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Anything that you put in front of God is an idol!!! That includes a flag! Patriotism in the cause of the true American Dream is totally righteous and ALWAYS in the BEST interest of this and every other nation on the face of this earth!!! So take your bucket of water and pour it over your own head eddie, leave OUR bonfire alone!!!

      • Dark Patriot

        Tom W, This isn’t true. Its a mistranslation. The Hebrews had the priests out in front of the troops with the Mishkahn (travelling ark) Granted, it was a he..G-d of a weapon. Its not an idol unless you pray to it. I don’t want to offend Catholics but in Jeudeism Mother Mary would definitely be an idol.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        ANYTHING you reverence instead of, ahead of, in front of, on top of, etc. of God is an idol, just ’cause you don’t pray to it, doesn’t mean it isn’t an idol! If that were true, God would’ve been gone a long time ago!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/WizardKiller Mark Are Reynolds

    I may be wrong, but from what I see, the NWO is imploding on itself. THE PEOPLE of the world are telling them to go EFF themselves.

    • Sarah R.

      You are so right. Just look at the people in the streets when Putin was returned to power and look at the people in the streets when Hollande won. The people are given power by the elites and the common people aren’t going to take it. I can’t wait to see the common people who love God and country revolt to all this crap.

      • DaveH

        First they need to educate themselves to overcome the severe Propagandization that we’ve all endured.

    • JeffH

      Mark Are Reynolds, to a very small degree you’re right…but it’s doubtfull the world’s masses will see it coming. The ideas for a “global” governance have hundreds of years of manipulation and propaganda in place. It’s a tough pill to swallow for most, but it’s real.

      ‘Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.’ – Mayer Amschel Rothschild, creator of the Rothschild Banking Cartel/Central Banks/Federal Reserve System

      • john j

        i agree with you and I think the EU is going to regroup and come up with a ten nation system

      • angelwannabe

        JeffH, check it out….
        freedomreigns.us

      • JeffH

        angelwannabe, thanks…I’ll check it out.

        Is it an online broadcast or on national radio? I’ll check it out a little closer when time permits.

      • angelwannabe

        http://freedomreigns.us/

        wolf spirit is something to look at too.

  • JDN

    Just believe us people , the train is going 200 MPH but we at the D&R railways tout our track record of safety . All you must do for your part is vote and have faith that this train will never wreck .

  • jack

    obama is a commie along with many others in our govt thats why our country is doin so bad, they want to destroy the usa, we the people must stop them whatever it takes, we won’t be holdin signs this time

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

      It’s pretty obvious isn’t it jack?!!

  • LAB

    Good luck with that though kategray! The MFR’s in DC will STOMP on us all!!…as they do so now! WE ARE SKAROO’D!

    • Mike in MI

      LAB – “skarood”, eh? Think they got’cha by the short-hairs, ayyh?
      So, which side you gonna throw in with? Obama and his One-World pals on the Devil’s side? Like the Colonists who held with King George III?
      Or, you gonna try to ride it out in the middle like the “undecideds” who tried to ride the fence (and got ground to hamburger by the “sides”) in Viet Nam during that mess?
      Or, you going to go like some of the intemperate testosteroners that sometimes sound-off here?

      I’ve advocated here for a while that folks become as knowledgeable as possible of how God works in and with people. He did things for His committed ones in every conflict where the good vs evil lines were very stark – and people committed themselves to Him. Not to a cause, not to a political group nor an ideology or any such thing…HIM via His son, the Lord Jesus Christ. Miracles and wonders still happen, folks. But you’ve got to know your way around His Word and how He operates – because you ask Him to. Otherwise, you’re just a liability to anyone who really wants to do something worthwhile.
      And…you have to have enough humility to submit to a hard-assed disciplinarian, goal oriented, God loving, “straight-arrow” leader like Moses, David, Paul or Jesus Christ. How do you think they got so much done – committees?
      Frankly, I don’t think Americans got it in ‘em anymore. TV is more important, and sports and porn and ………

      • charlie

        Mike,,, Thanks for the info BUT you did not tell us what The “Orders”of King Jesus are,,,some people THINK they are on third base and they have not even come to bat yet…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Yeah like you heretic! TURN or BURN chuck!!!

      • Mike in MI

        Well chuck -
        The “Orders” come according to the need of the moment. They come straight from God to your spirit to your mind as you’re moving out with a mind set to serve God’s best to His people. The Apostle Paul’s example in Acts is most worthwhile to endeavor to follow – like the Thessallonians. Paul’s letters contain the teaching that is still the basic marching order for our day and time until the Lord’s Day (II Corinthians 1:13-14). Act in accord with his letters and watch your power and love as God’s kid take off.
        Charlie, I don’t know what the “Obadiah” stuff you refer to is all about but it sure wasn’t a major focus for the first century writers. Best get it out of your head. Find somebody with a proven track record at discipleship to mentor you. Zeal is good but not enough – by itself. You’ll tend to burn out if that’s all you’ve got.
        It’s required of a steward to be faithful. Have a sense of humor. You’ll need it. Jesus Christ was often ironic and satirical – never sarcastic or biting – unless dealing with deceitful, devilish temple priests.
        Have fun. God will blow…your…mind.

      • charlie

        Mike,, the book of Obadiah is a one page book in the minor Prophets that says the Lineage of Esau Edom will be teetolly wiped out,,, who are the lineage of Esau / Edom today??? I know but you may not believe it unless you know the lineage of “Shem”,,,it’s in The Bible…

      • ohoh

        That’s the great mystery that once revealed to Israel, the true Israel, will expose the seed of the Father of Lies for who they are and what they’ve done to the Children of the Promise. Having ignored the admonitions of Christ to separate themselves from this evil and, instead, embracing the enemies of Christ based on Jewish fables for so long, the irony will be too much for most modern Judeo-Christians to bear.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Who’s yo daddy Chuck?!!

        “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it” – John 8:44 (KJV).

        VERY well stated Mike in MI!!!

  • Louis Lemieux

    I have a dream, a dream that stands in the way of the false patriot with his ultranationalistic desires. I hope and I have faith that the world will be someday united, that all countries will be united like the states of the United States are united. No doubt this is Earth’s manifest destiny!

    • sesame

      If that happens and a world-wide depression occurs, there will be no way out. You need strong separate economies to be able to keep things going until the weaker ones can work there way out. Some weaker countries may collapse. There;s no reason we all should

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        So you’re sayin’ that a world that was united in the common good of ALL humanity couldn’t survive?!! When King Jesus (Ya hear that charlie?!) appears, that’s EXACTLY what we’re goin’ have!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55DXPoIhFHs

    • DaveH

      Louis,
      Unless you’re an administration shill, the Power Elites are just making a fool out of you. They are smart enough to know (unlike yourself) that the further Power is removed from the electorate, the less control the electorate has of them, and the less Freedom the electorate has.
      People with ambitions of extreme Power always push for Centralized Government (and always will).
      Do you fear rule by the Wealthy, Louis? If you do, you need to wake up to the fact that Big Government has the Power of Force that plays right into their hands. The bigger Government is, the more Control the Wealthy have over our lives.
      Read this book, Louis, and awaken to the fact that the Crony Capitalists have been subverting the Freedom and Prosperity of the common people since the very inception of our country:
      http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

      • CardinalMo

        DaveH You are absolutely right. The Money power has always tried to control government. Many laws and agreements have given the elite rights, powers, lands, resources over the rights of the people. At one time our founding fathers had discussed the Corporations..remember the India Tea Company and the Boston Tea Party? But I guess even back then pay off and bribery must have been good.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

      I’ll join in that prayer Louis!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnPVP23rzo

    • charlie

      Louis,,,et al,,,
      You have a point ,,,one leader ,,,One King of Earth ,,, King of America ,,,Praise King Jesus for Salvation an Healing …

      • charlie

        Pray Matthew 6:9 to get The King here faster…

      • RichE

        Give up a democratic republic for a king? Talk about big government.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Ruled with a rod of irom RichE!!!

      • RichE

        “Iron rod”? I guess that’s biblical. I haven’t a clue what you’re implying.

        Tell me Tom W; why would a conservative Christian give up their freedoms for the promise that all their needs will be provided for when they could be turned into a rock and all a rock needs is to sit.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        You DON’T understand RichE, there are only two choices, TWO, that’s it! When King Jesus returns, He won’t return as the Lamb of God, but as the LION of Judah!!! If you don’t want to live under His reign, I’m afraid You’re NOT gonna care for the alternative very much at all, for there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDmurYHb0wM

      • RichE

        Your King Jesus will imprison all that opposition him? Sounds like what Hitler did, but you won’t know that until you read it in a history book. That’d be after it happens.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Never mind, you’ll get it SOON!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        I pray that God opens your understanding RichE!!! In Jesus’ most Beautiful, Blessed, Holy Name! Amen

    • daniel

      I hope it stays just a dream. One group or single person with that much power scares the bejeebers outta me. History has set a poor track record for people with that much power. Seems they always abuse it.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        daniel, you just made the best point possible: no human being or group of human beings can be trusted with absolute power. Amen

  • jack

    we the people will not let this happen even if it means war, i will no give up my freedom i will fight to the death and take many with me

  • sesame

    In case you haven’t noticed the European Union is almost in a state of collapse.

    • canoworms27

      I think the euro union is in a state of transition, not collapse…sort of like our chapter 11, here in the U.S.?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        In a state of transition into the Beast of Rev. chap. 13!!!

      • charlie

        Tom W. ,,,et al,,,
        Are you one of the people called out at Revelation 13:8???

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        No, but I believe that you’ll be one of the loooong faces that hears the Lord say in Matt. 7:15-27 (KJV), ” Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.”

        TURN OR BURN chuck!!!

      • sesame

        It will only take a couple more government to collapse, then Germany will go its own way. They can’t bail out any more.

    • James Andrews

      Exactly-not to mention the fact that our nation’s laws could lose therir power and affect here, as we could be subject to “international law”-av VERY bad and dangerous concept!

      • Mike in MI

        James A –
        Already been done.
        Last week’s signing by Oblamhimanyway of Executive Order # 541,666.666 consigned us to the legal and official dictates of one-world-disorder, regulatory decisions and controls.
        All they need do is implement it. Panetta refered to it’s provisions in remarks to a House Subcommittee regarding whether or not our leaders would follow House vote or U.N. determinations before our armed forces are sent to war. Paneta declared Obama would defer to the U.N. in such matters. Essentially treasonous statements in contravention to Constitutional requirements. But, so what?
        Mr. Inhofe followed-up, making some alarmed press statements so we all understand how small and inconsequential we have been made.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
    • http://yahoo catsueme

      let’s not kid ourselves the EU will be healed and be out to take over the world as in one world government. The Bible says so and it has predicted too many things that have come to pass exactly as it was predicted. It’s gonna happen folks… let’s get ourselves perpared the weather the stom and survive untill the Lord returns.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        When it comes evident that Spain is toast, you’re going to see all kinds of movin’ and shakin’ goin’ on! I see an emergency summit of the G20 resulting in the signing of the covenant of of death and hell!!!

        “Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.” – Isaiah 28:14-18 (KJV)

        Gotta have FAITH for this final hour folks! And to know also, WHO IT IS that STANDS by you!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM&feature=relmfu

        HALLELUJAH!!! WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE! THINK ABOUT IT, IT’S AWESOME!!!

      • charlie

        that’s what Tom W. is lacking in his bla bla ,,,no Scripture to back up his bla bla bla…
        Scripture IS fruit for Life… Talk about “you shall know them by their fruits”…

      • Tom W.

        (attack comment removed)

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
      • charlie

        Acts 2:38 = Real Christian…

    • charlie

      EU,,, needs Hitler’s grand son to fix things…

  • kategray

    I BELIEVE that the legal AMERICIAN citizens of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA will not allow this to happen. I have faith in the Americian people to persevere. We have been under estimated. And we will protect what the CONSITUTION has given us by the FOUNDING FATHERS. DON’T TREAD ON ME

    • Toxick1

      Believe me. We Canadians don’t want any part of it either. We are doing quite well without you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        You do know why y’all can’t play “Wheel of Fortune” right canauk?!.. Can I buy a vowel, eh?!! LOL!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgWFxFg7-GU&feature=relmfu

      • charlie

        Detox,, why did the Canadian jews put Ernst Zundel in jail???

    • jorind

      You are correct Kate; and fly the Gadson Flag.

      • jorind

        That should be the Gadsden Flag.

    • FreedomFighter

      I Hope Black People Are Preparing!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQrbvqW_tA&feature=related

      “My warning to black people (hell, all people) about the dangers of not being prepared for an emergency (such as a economic crisis, natural disaster, terrorist attack.) ”

      Do not let the NWO divide us, all American need to prepare for the coming crisis, nomatter your color we are all Americans, let us puch off these tyrants that would enslave us.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • DaveH

        Yep, the Leaders have been using the Blacks as unwitting pawns since Lincoln’s presidency. The Power-Hungry Leaders have managed to take the Blacks from slavery, into the illusion of Freedom, back into slavery. The only difference is that most of the whites have joined them in their current slavery. Government now spends over 40% of our Gross Domestic Product. In 1900 (the early years of the Progressive Period) they spent about 3% of our GDP. Imagine that — we are such an unruly and ignorant population now that we need 9 times as much Government Protection as our ancestors of just 110 years ago. If you believe that, I have a …….
        In America’s heyday (between 1880 and 1890) real wages, adjusted for inflation, grew at their fastest pace ever in this country.
        Read the section titled “PRICES, WAGES, AND REALWAGES” in Part 1 of “A History of Money and Banking in the United States: The Colonial Era to World War II”:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf
        We won’t see that kind of prosperity for the average American again until we shrink Government dramatically and get our Freedom Back. Just imagine if most of that 40% Government takes was back into our pockets instead of theirs.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        GOOD POST FF!!! Prepare the BEST ya can, never forget GOOD people will find each other, the only way to survive even the worst case senerio is to pull together, don’t try to be a lone wolf! There is STRENTH IN NUMBERS!!! Remember that their motto is, “DEVIDE and CONQUER”!

      • charlie

        FF,,,et al,,,
        Follow The King of America ,,,what ever color one may be…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing…

    • DaveH

      Kategray says — “And we will protect what the CONSITUTION has given us by the FOUNDING FATHERS. DON’T TREAD ON ME”.
      Oh yeah? And when do we start? So far the good little sheeple have been letting the Progressives step all over the Constitution for the last 150 years. Why do you think people will get their heads out now, Kate?

      • MAP

        And it is worth adding, DaveH, that this disregard of the law has happened at all levels of the general government. The Supreme Court, arbitraitor of Constitutionality by usurpation, has proven a very poor arbitraitor! Calhoun had it right. The states, as creator of the general government, ought to be the judges of the limit of central power.

      • Flashy

        “The states, as creator of the general government, ought to be the judges of the limit of central power.” <— MAP

        LOL…oh yeah, that worked so well in the Articles of Confederation didn't it. And 80 years later for the Confederacy. LOL …..

      • JeffH

        Falsy, if that’s all you got to say then your plate must be getting pretty empty. Lost for words?

      • Opal the Gem

        JeffH, Flushy saw his boss coming so he had to make it quick.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        There goes the nieighborhood!

      • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        There you go again DaveH blaming the progressives when you know full well the conservative right has been running this country into the ground especially in the last 40 years. The progressives have never governed, they have merely pushed to bring us the things that make America great and the reasons why the masses want to come here. Arbitrarily moving the center to your own beneficial position will never make it so. One of these days you’ll open your heart and your mind and realize that either you didn’t know what you were talking about or possibly you were just lying. Either way you are not helping.

      • daniel

        Flqashy you know nothing of history or the reasons behind the War Between the States do you? If you answer slavery you would be wrong again.

      • DaveH

        There you go again, Eric, spouting your Progressive lies. The Progressives love Big Government and they have been building it as rapidly as they can since the late 19th Century. You apparently do not understand what the Progressive movement is all about, Eric (or would like other people to not understand), If you are unaware that they are the main builders of our Gargantuan Government. And apparently you are confused about what Conservatives are also. Conservatives respect the Main Law of the Land — The Constitution; Progressives don’t.
        What made America great, Eric, was the fact that our Founders pursued a level of Freedom and protection from Big Government tyrants that had rarely existed before. Unfortunately, the average citizen has bought into the Progressive Siren Song sung by Leaders whose main goal is to overlord the common citizens. I would bet most of the Progressive followers have no clue that they’re being made fools of by the Power Hungry Leaders. I suspect though, Eric, that you know all about the effort to take advantage of the common citizens. Why else would you argue so vehemently about an agenda that has no valid logical legs?
        For those who don’t want to be fooled by Progressives like Eric:
        http://mises.org/daily/1259

      • CardinalMo

        To DaveH. Progressive are as much about freedom, democracy, and American as you
        you are. The difference is they care about having social supports for the elderly, those who cannot work due to mental or physical disability, children who are hungry, those who would be hungry if not for unemployment, and injured, wounded, soldiers or soldiers who because of where they were developed diverse mental problems, and the poor. Did you know that all a single person has to receive assistance must survuve on as little as $200.00 in Food Stamps, and $200.00 in cash assistance. Can you live on $600-700 a month if you are disabled and have to collect SSI…and you receive 50 -60 in food stamps? Well, we have to have some “safety nets.” Or the streets would be full of starving beggers. It is bad enough we all have to deal with the drug, alcohol people on the streets…that is a problem we have yet to solve.

        I was talking with a young woman this evening about education. Kids are not being taught about drugs in school. They need to see realilty. Pictures, films, They need to see what happens to a pretty young woman after getting hooked on Meth. They need to see pictures of what crack babies will look like, and fetal alcohol babies. And on and on. God knows they see enough sex and violence on TV…they need to see the consequences….the real consequences. Not just another soft sell for Say No To Drugs.
        Progressives to deal with that problem…But, the public didn’t want truth ruining their children. Working conditions would not be regulated for safety and health protections, and you would probably be working 12 hours a day with out any vacations, sick leave, family leave, or 401K. And when you felt and needed a raise you wouldn’t get one until a Union stood up in mass and applied people power for better treatment and pay.

        Centralized Big Government is a problem. Get out there and fight for a Direct Democracy. I can understand how we got to be a big government..we have a lot of problems which need to be dealt with. Rein in the Mega Corporations. It should be illegal for them to bribe, and lobby government. And illegal for a revolving door between leadership in a corporation and government department heads. This has to be the battle of the people. The government does in time backdown when there is a broad base speaking out against issues and DEMAND change. But the people have to have it planned out and have a solid, rational demand/s.

  • Michael J.

    God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.

    Disengage from the right-left paradigm and the illusion of having a say in what will be. From the minds of those that believe that wealth and wisdom come in the same package, will soon be anounced who will next implement their ongoing plans of world domination. So vote to assure yourself that you’ve done all you can do, while your conscience tells you that your grandparents were the last to have a say in doing so.

    Meanwhile prepare the best you can for the oncoming storm that looms large on the horizon. We will all soon be hunter gatherers or dead attempters.

    • Tom W.
      • Tom W.

        Watch the video!

      • charlie

        forget the video ,,,read your Bible IF you have one Acts 2:38…

      • Tom W.

        I back up EVERYTHING I say with scripture heretic! Not just one verse!!! Isn’t there a snake somewhere that needs handlin’ or somethin’?!! I’m sure that Flush has one he’ll let ya play with!

    • Joseph

      I like your reference to John Wayne’s The Shootist but cancer was not called Consumption,TB was called consumption back then.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        I LOVED da Duke!!! Especially this quote of his which applies to a few of the posters around here, I’m not naming names but I’m sure you can probably guess! LOL!!!

        “Life’s tough……It’s even tougher if you’re stupid.” – John Wayne

    • http://none America’s Last Chance

      These things might take longer to bring about than some believe but if we don’t prepare now we all could be hungry by the time the dollar dies. The Shootist, which you mentioned further up, was an excellent movie but it’s spiritual value could only be understood by those who understand the purpose of life. I see life as a school in which we all have varying lessons to learn. Sadly the schools have been teaching that which is Anti-American for almost two generations now and although our ship of state hasn’t sunk yet, it is lisping badly. You said earlier, “I don’t pretend to have the cure, I don’t think anyone does. I do think that when a true leader steps up to the plate, he or she will have multitudes of followers.” Sadly that is what the world leader (the one the Bible calls the anti-Christ) will do. The Bible hints at his being a banker and not a military man and when the world is in chaos he will step up to the plate and be the answer man, and most all will rush to support him.

      There is a cure but it is one that some find distasteful. The only cure that I can see is for the nation that was founded on it’s knees, whose first president often prayed for guidance and direction, and whose leaders over the generations since have often prayed for guidance and direction, is to return to those values upon which we were founded, not the Bible per se, but BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES.

      I said this better In response to another writer on a different but related topic:

      “…If Obama and the Progressives get to pack the Supreme Court that will be it for the USA and freedom as we have known it. Already they have put two liberals on the court. It’s sad that the court is as politicized as it is but can we expect more out of our leaders than we do out of ourselves? A nation’s leaders tend to reflect the people who elect them. Only a return by the citizens of this nation to the morality of the founders of this nation can save this nation that was founded on Biblical principles. It was the principles of the Bible (not those of varying interpretations) upon which this nation was founded.
      “We are not electing a saint to the presidency but a man (and someday a woman). The ravings of those who want to be their own god, a move that reduced the most brilliant being that God ever created, into a lawless shadow of his former self, an ego centric being who still believes that he is god – well such will be the fate of all those who knowingly oppose truth and real justice, not the “socialized justice” of the Marxists….

      “We were once a great nation. We did great things. We haven’t fallen from the precipice yet but we are perilously close. The time for petty bickering is over. The time for prayer is NOW! We were once believers. Some still are, and it is on their shoulders that the fate of this nation depends. Only prayer to the loving Father of us all, can stop the eventual demise of this nation. Our ship of state is already lisping so sharply that only a divine miracle can save us from greater suffering than is already inevitable – the tripling of the price of food (and fuel, as the progressives want so badly) will hurt not just the poor but the middle class as well. Only the fervent prayers of the righteous, for God to take action in the hearts of men to save this nation, can save it. Since those who hate freedom and God don’t believe in prayer it is up to those who believe to take up the slack. All those who believe must cry out to the one and only God, the great “I am that I am” who spoke to Moses, that His will be done on this nation and all the world.

      “I have written about the coming financial crisis for 22 years now and it has begun. A decade ago 200 to 300 thousand people year left the country each year but in the last couple of years it appears that number has increased to a couple of million per year who are leaving. A decade ago nearly 100,000 millionaires somehow vanished from the United States in a single year, yet for the vast majority, I don’t think it will do any good to leave in the long run. God is preparing not just to chastise the United States but the world. There are those who say God is not doing all this that we are doing it to ourselves. Since some of these are people I respect I can only tell you what I heard when I was praying. It was a voice that was as strong as steel: MY HAND OF JUDGEMENT WILL STRETCH FOR AND ALL WILL FEEL IT, SOME MUCH MORE THAN OTHERS. FEAR NOT!

      “Since I don’t want to feel what is coming as sharply as some will, I endeavor to seek God while He may be found. He will never turn His back on those who love Him but he will not hear the prayers of the unrighteous and those who knowing choose the “dark side”. We must not go “Forward” into further darkness but all who believe in the true God of the Universe need to put aside petty differences and unite to face the greater enemy who would enslave us all. The choice is ours. God help us!”

      PS. The UN wants everyone to live in large cities, the elimination of private property, etc. From your final comment I take it you are in the country somewhere. While hunting and gathering may last for a while but with many doing it (I have read that Wisconsin alone has some 600,000 hunters) you had better learn all you can about intensive gardening with heirloom seeds, before those too are made illegal by the FDA or the USDA. Having a decent supply of freeze dried foods that you actually use is a good idea too. Time is short. Don’t waste it. Learn all you can about taking care of yourself and your family. Pray!

      • Michael J.

        America’s Last Chance,
        Thanks, I place a high value on the thoughts and wisdom of fellow American Patriots. We started with heirloom seeds and are now producing our own. We have gardens in two seperate counties and the know how to make them flourish. I figure hunter gathering to be a fall-back survival contengency. Good luck to you sir in the uncertain days ahead.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Excellent post ALC!!! There is no more dangerous creature on the face of this earth than the human whois their own god! I truly believe that the US is either going to be engulfed into the NWO or be defeated and displaced. In the book of Daniel chap. 7, we see in Daniel’s “Little Horn” prophecy that there will be a ten kingdom amalgamation in the Last Days that when the anti-Christ comes to power that he will throw down three of those kingdoms. Now I’m just reasoning with common sense here, if he comes to power by overthrowing three kingdoms, wouldn’t reason tell you that those were the leaders of the ten?!! I mean I’m not pretending to be a prophet, I’m just speculating! I think that that’s ALL anyone honest can actually say, the one who says it is a certain way, Jesus said to be leary of!!! “And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.” – Luke 17:23 (KJV) I truly believe that the wheels have been set in motion and there is NO turning back!!! The most that we can do is pray for and TRY to convince our lost loved one’s to take a bath in the blood before it’s too late! If ya can’t get through to ‘em just keep tellin’ ‘em what you think is gettin’ ready to happen, so that when it does, they’ll know what to do!!! There still be a chance for salvation on the other side of the Rapture! Just make sure that they KNOW NOT TO TAKE THE MARK!!! That is the sin of NO return!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55s3T7VRQSc&feature=relmfu

      • charlie

        ALC,,, et al,,,
        1John 2:22 tells you anti-christs have been on Earth since King Jesus was here …
        But don’t feel bad because you have not seen that before ,,, Tom W. got bad eye sight also… Ears that don’t hear well ,,,eyes that don’t see well,,,then you can’t read ,,,life is tuff UNTIL you learn to Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing…

  • Sirian

    Have been aware of the NAU push for several years. Dr. Corsi wrote his book “The Late Great USA” back in 2007. There has been plenty of info available on this subject for several years too – verifiable, info. Do not be surprised if towards the end of this year, if possibly not before November, with our economy in the pits, the dollar slipping away, deficits at extremes and who knows what the Bilderbergers meeting will produce as the next plan, that our economy will once again be on the verge of or already reached a point of total collapse. With that Obummer calls for an “Economic Summit” between the U.S., Canada & Mexico. In so doing they will come to an emergency agreement to merge our economies into one with that as being the only path they will “say” is possible to save us – North American Union. This in turn will lead to a single currency controlled by a central bank – the FED. So many have scoffed at merely the idea of a NAU but between Dr. Corsi’s book, tons of other information to verify this (research it a bit) seminars that have been held about what is in the works behind the scenes, it is very much real and has been growing annually. Just as the U.N.’s Agenda 21 has too. A prime example of this being true, not simply another story to catch peoples attention, like 2012 doomsday, is when Mexico’s former president, Vicente Fox was here in Tulsa shortly after the end of his term. He gave an interview to one of our local TV stations and stated quite openly that that is exactly what they are planning and pushing to accomplish. All you Bush haters out there, grin, for he and Fox were very close on this subject. Why do you think our southern border has never been “locked down”? This is a movement that will take everyone by surprise especially since the majority are totally unaware of it or blow it off as a bunch of poppycock. Open borders, one currency, central bank and essentially a removal of our Constitution. Don’t worry, Obummer will come riding in on his white stallion and save everyones SS & Medicare by moving us into a North American Union. Oh yes, don’t worry, the war on women will come to an end very quickly. The utopians are much closer to reaching their goal than most realize.

    • Warrior

      The plan to get rid of all the debt problems will be a one world currency.

      http://www.debtrealignment.com/

      • Sirian

        Good article Warrior! Isn’t much of a surprise to me though since who knows what else is going on “behind the scenes”. This does sound as if it too is tied into Agenda 21, NAU etc. What gets me the most is that so many people laugh at things like this since they can’t find the courage to face the truth. American Idol or Survivor hold more importance than this? No wonder the world now looks at we Americans as nothing more than a simple simon.

      • Tom W.

        Good mornin’ ALL, pray for the George Lindsey family, God rst your soul Goob! LOL!!!:(
        Bob, I know you still aren’ty talkin’ to me but I feel I have to tell you what an excellent piece this is! FINALLY!!! Someone is tellin’ the truth in an open public forum which justs goes to PROVE the point that their window of oportunity is closing FAST!!! BE ALERT, VIGILENT, JUST PLAIN ON YOUR TOES!!! ANY THING IS LIABLE TO HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE! DO NOT BE SHOCKED, AND WE MUST NOT OVER-REACT!!! THAT WOULD TRIGGER A CALL FOR MARSHALL LAW AND THE BEGINNING OF SURVIVAL! GOD BE WITH US!!!
        EXCELLENT piece Bob!!! If you’ve never seen these two documentaries and aren’t real familiar with the things that Bob is revealing here, both of these are excellent! I pray that they aren’t completely correct because if the charges they allogate against our government are true, WE the PEOPLE are in for a FIGHT folks!!! BE READY!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs

        Is your lamp trimmed and BURNING?!! (Matt. 25:1-13) Because if you’re not LOOKIN’ up(Luke 21:28), you SURELY to GOD must be BLIND!!! (II Cor. 4:3&4) Surely you don’t want to be TOLD to go hangout with the GOATS!!! (Matt. 25:31-46) Keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMIN’! He LOVES y’all and so do I!!!

      • FreedomFighter

        In the process they the NWO will exterminate vast numbers of human beings, 6 to 7 billion to reach the UTOPIAN number of 500 million.

        No you are not one of them that survives to be a slave. Those slaves will be as in the movie Brave new world, genectically manipulated beings as the elite set themselves up as genetically enhanced gods to travel the cosmos.

        Sick you say? Look it up, thats what they say.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • eddie47d

        Europeans voted on the European Union for better or for worse and for some countries it’s great and for others it’s a mess. When Germany was alone and had separate powers how did that fair for Europe. Two World Wars and millions dead so individual sovereignty can give a nation too much power to dominate others also. It depends on what works best for any country in trade and in avoiding wars. I’m still against NAFTA and that was pushed by the business community for better trade. We got the short end of the stick with that deal and the NAU may be no different.

      • Tom W.

        And just who do you think is runnin’ the EU now eddie?! Duhh…

        http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/finance-public-debt.eu7

      • Michael J.

        In one of John Wayne’s finest movies, “The Shootist”. He is in one scene with the town doctor played by Jimmy Stewart, discussing the fact that he has terminal cancer or what was then called consumption. As the scene unfolds The Duke asks the Doc, “Can’t ya just cut it outa me Doc?” Then Stewart replies, “I’d hafta gutcha like a fish”.

        Our beloved homeland today is in a similar state of peril. So complete is the infestation of these radical socialist, that In the same way that the picture on your TV is made up of thousands or millions of pixels, so too are the number of contingents arrayed against us that when combined form a picture of Obama grinning. Our nation is being consumed by a stealthy slow death cancer that like a parasite, requires a living host in order to survive. I don’t pretend to have the cure, I don’t think anyone does. I do think that when a true leader steps up to the plate, he or she will have multitudes of followers.

        The newest catch phrase from the NWO bag of tricks is Global Debt Realignment. According to them this would:

        “Debt realignment frees up resources, reestablishes credit and liquidity, and provides the means for vast global job creation”

        Their description of this “Brave New World” fails to mention that it would also require the adoption of a world currency and the surrendering of national sovereignty by all countries that wish to reap the benefits of a reduced debt, fresh start.

        Now we begin to understand why Obama and henchman claimed that unprecedented deficit spending simply doesn’t matter, as long as you were privy to the plan of all debts to soon be reduced or forgotten. The out of control spending was also required in order to bring us to the point of global blackmail, once the world is on it’s knees financially, it will submit to anything to survive. Like starving rodents tempted by the promise of cheese, into the trap we go.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        This is to eddie47d, you say “Two World Wars and millions dead so individual sovereignty can give a nation too much power to dominate others also. It depends on what works best for any country in trade and in avoiding wars.” So, are you saying that it’s a bad idea for one individual nation to have power to dominate others but that it’s better to have one group who can dominate everybody? If that is what you are saying then how in the world does that even make any sense? I don’t want to disagree with you unless I understand the point you’re really trying to make. I don’t understand your comment.

      • JeffH

        Michael J, great analogy with the “Shootist” scene and 100% spot on.

        Katrael, don’t waste too much time on eddie. He’s so contradicting and really doesn’t have much of a clue about what he says…and he’s dominated by his liberal motions…which makes him say anything at anytime with a heavy dose of irrelevance tossed in between.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        JeffH, I’m learning a lot from this site. I only thought that it was the liberals that I knew who were incoherent but after eddie, nc and others I’m beginning to say that it must be some kind of a genetic defect.

        I appreciate these liberals here. I get to finish a thought before they can say anything. It also gives a person a chance to do a little research so that a person can offer a real intelligent comment which is something that I notice these guys rarely do.

        The Shootist. I haven’t seen that one. Should be good.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Oh, take it from me Katrael, you can go ahead with the lambastin’, you disagree with him! LOL!!! You’re more than welcome to suffer the mental terture of listening to his Kool-Aiid intoxicated libtard nonsense if you must, but I must warn ya Bro, you’re steppin’ out where angels fear to tread!!! By the way Katrael Could you give me some info or link to check out what we were discussin’ yesterday?! I’m interested to know who was doin’ the impregnatin’? The head priests of the cult? To whom were the eggs given?!! One of the shock rumors and SICKEST things that I’ve heard about the abortion industry is that the aborted fetuses are sold to countries where they are considered a delicacy!!!

        http://madgaboon.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/human-fetus-as-delicacy-in-china/

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Tom W. that information about the virgins? I believe that I got that info from a guy named Lou White. The first name may be wrong but I’m fairly sure of the second. He wrote a book called “Fossilized Customs” and he covers the things we talked about and many more. I believe that info came from that book. I did some research on some of the things he brings up and he was at least accurate on those that I checked out. This was almost fifteen years ago and that I read his book. It’s not a very big book and I got several copies but I don’t have any because I loaned them out and never got them back. I’ll get you that information you want but It might take me a little while.

        Aborted human fetus delicacies? Cannibalism on this scale is considered a sign of a distressed organism or community. It’s often seen in the animal kingdom and on occasions within human populations. The Scriptures speak of it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Thanx Katrael, the study of pagan religion fascinates me, it wasn’t until I started studying these things that I learned about the ancient Kelts and how they used to sacrifice their children to the Keltic god of corn and milk! And that it was St. Patrick who abolished the practice and the true story behind the holiday that bears his name!!! Which makes one wonder, why the cover-up?!! Isn’t that something that you would want people to know?!! I mean unless of course you’re Irish, and I am a little! Aye!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3joJU4gvs

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Tom W., Though I haven’t yet found the information that I’m looking for on the net I know that child sacrifices, especially the ones that are conducted with innocent are conducted by the millions each year here in this country and abroad to the god of self.

      • CardinalMo

        To Katrael and TomW
        Quite a number of cultures have sacrificed life to the Gods. I imagine more cultures than not performed either sacrifice and infantcide. I sure am glad I live now. I think people are a bit more just. However, when I really think about it. Life is life and the modern culture certainly does it’s share during wars. How many women, children, and elderly are murdered by soldiers all over the world? So, I guess all in all we haven’t changed all that much. No need to think we are so elevated above the hunter gathers or the pagans. What is a pagan? “.A person who holds religious beliefs other than those of the main world.” from Compact Oxford English Dictionary. “The origin of the word is latin – paganus…meaning villager, later civilian. …i.e. a person who was not a “soldier” in Christs army.” So paganism is as more than likely asdiverse as all cultures and religions who are not Christian.

        Even Abraham was about to sacrifice his son under “gods order” until god stopped him at the last moment. Pretty crazy stuff if you ask me. Since God knows everthing why did God have to test Abraham’s faith? That was a pretty pagan concept to me.

      • Patty

        Do you have an opinion on under what god abortions fall under?

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Patty, I can’t speak for Tom W. but in my opinion abortions are required by the god of self. I don’t know of any culture that made a practice of abortion on the scale that our modern cultures do. I say it is the god of self since abortion for the most part is the woman’s choice.

      • Patty

        I find it to be a very selfish act. For someone to take out their lack of responsibilty on an innocent human being. I know others would disagree, and they may/can, but they will never convince me otherwise. To hold your own living flesh and blood in your arms for the first time, is a miracle to me.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Patty, I find your response to be most refreshing and I only wish that more people could feel the same way you do. The vast majority of abortions are the result of a self centered ego.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        CardinalMo, in my opinion mankind hasn’t had time enough to change in the last couple of thousand years since Abraham and mankind is still the same way now as he was back then. Hitler has been mentioned many times in comments here and it’s enough to give a person the willies thinking about the stories about the gruesome experiments that were conducted on living conscious people.

        When you think about it mankind doesn’t need a Satan to torture him when he’ll do it all by himself. Will there ever be another time as dark as the ones that are recorded in the history books? I think so. If you take away the moral restraints then there is nothing to stop the mind of man from doing what it imagines. The only thing Satan does is to keep mankind deceived into believing that it doesn’t need those morals anymore.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        http://www.freewebs.com/fossilizedcustoms/FossilizedCustoms.pdf

        Tom W. the link above is to a pdf version of Fossilized Customs by Lew White. I did have the first name wrong. The good thing about it is that this version is free so if you don’t like it or disagree with it you won’t be out anything. I believe the man is correct about most of what he writes. The problem I’ve run into is in finding documentation for his some of his claims. I feel that a lot of what he talks about is being expunged from the common history books if it could even ever be found by a casual search for this information. I found this out about a simple thing like the names of the days of the week. Some dictionaries have this information and most don’t. I ended up having to go to the University Library to do research and even there it was a difficult job. The internet has made some of this easier but it’s still hard to find it unless you’re fairly sure about certain details. I had this author’s name wrong but I knew the book title so it came up easy. In the mean time I’ll be searching for more info on those virgins.

      • daniel

        Eddie you are correct. The europeans did vote the EU in on a country by country referendum. It was the politicians of these countries that sold the idea to them. For some as has been found out since it was an opportunity to get access to a bigger fatter checkbook for themselves. Look at the PIGS now and you can figure out who they were. We need to be careful ourselves and not follow the same trap that europe is in now. Look at Germany. They have a prosperous economy according to some and yet they are in the position of having to underwrite bad loans to people that they know have no way of paying the money back. They also have to take care of their own.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Kaltrael you said: “Will there ever be another time as dark as the ones that are recorded in the history books? I think so.”

        It’s never ended – goes on daily all around us.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Libertytrain, thanks and that’s why we have to constantly struggle to maintain balance.

    • CardinalMo

      Sirian, Have you read the complete UN Agenda 21?

      When it comes to this issue EU and NAU I am absolutely not in agreement with globalization. In fact I believe this is completely the wrong approach to our world problems. Yes we do need an organization in which all nations can agree on issues such as how to handle protection of human rights, environmental degregation, rules of engagement in wars, peace keeping, and open dialogue between nation states. One world government will never work. The EU is not working! We need to be able to get along with our neighbors however, all nations need to be able to be independent. This Globalization is about Corporations…and the powers they have over all of us. When it comes to Germany being in control of a global government, well they have a pretty long history of involvement in wars and trying to control and run over other peoples. Weren’t they part of the barbarian group other people so feared? Have you noticed how governments always use the economy, jobs, and education as their cry to get support. The people are not to bright because they in nation after nation fall for the lie..and the economies, job situations and education keeps getting worse. I’m telling you Corporations and the power they have are totally in charge of the world and we already have a dictatorship by these corporations. If we really want to solve our problems we will break these corporations up, regulate them, jail them and whatever it takes to take away their power. They have completely destroyed the free market enterprise system and are removing our freedoms on a daily basis. They can snoop into your life in ways the government never dreamed of. And, they can ruin your life too. . You have no rights and no privacy when it comes to corporations. I’m not talking about your small businesses which are incorporated. I’m talking about the Global corporations who keep running out of markets to play in. They have one goal…to gobble the markets around the world, to put down all forms of competition. To do this they have to have a centeralized world government they can buy to support their wants and greed.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        I disaree with you on one point CardinalMo, I believe that a ONE world government would work, one of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, and for THE PEOPLE! We haven’t haven’t even seen true fruition of our own government yet but in the words oy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., “We hold these TRUTHS to be sejf-evident…”(emphasis mine)!!! What a lot of people fail to grasp is the FACT that we’re the ONLY nation that was EVER founded on the principle that ALL humans are EQUAL in the eyes of the ALMIGHTY!!! If WE as a PEOPLE could live by the TWO, that’s right just two, commandments that Jesus gave us to live by, I believe this world could live together as ONE and once again become the BEAUTIFUL creation that God originally GAVE us!!!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xjPODksI08

        There is no hiding place from the Father of creation!!! No Bob there sure isn’t!

      • CardinalMo

        Well first the United States has to become a Direct Democracy, so that the people really are the ultimate power. Then we have to get the rest of the world to become a Direct Democracy. Then what? The whole world becomes Christian? I don’t think you’ll get Americans to do that let alone the rest of the world. Not unless Jesus really does come down from a cloud…

        I will forever believe that we the people need to Foil the Mega Corps. No one seems to care about this part of the equation…

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Oh ye of little faith…

      • CardinalMo

        Tom. You really know nothing about my faith…so get off of it. I’m not going there like I did with Charlie. There is no point to discussing Religious beliefs when we are speaking about politics and problems which we might just be able to solve, if we can stick to the topic.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        CardinalMo – very nicely said.

      • CardinalMo

        Thank you Libertytrain

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Libertytrain you better get off that looong black one and I ain’t talkin ’bout O’s johnson!!! CardinalMo I’m prayin for ya, that God will open your understanding cause if you can’t see where the lack of God fearing morality in this coountry is DIRECTLY effecting our politics, educational system, health care system, economy, etc. then there probably isn’t any hope for ya, but you’re in my prayers anywho!!!
        Hey Lt, we’re gettin’ a choo-choo motiff goin’ here! Where’s your momma tonight?! You’re usally not to far away from her coat tails!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGbSbAWp7Jo

      • CardinalMo

        To Tom from CardinalMo, How do you define morality Tom? How do you suppose we make people obey the ten commandments?

      • Tom W.

        I think that Jesus defined morality better than I ever could in his parable of the “Good Samaritan” CM!
        Let’s see, where do I want to start here cause you Mz. Teacher, have pushed my button! First of all, I’m 53 yrs. old and no longer have any children in today’s school system. (Thank God!!!) As far as being involved with the PTA, maybe I should get more involved but would’nt want the consequences that result from the stress of arguin’ with you bunch of overeducated idiots ALL THE TIME!!! What ever happened to y’all just teachin’ the three R’s, and lettin’ the parents teach the children their values and ideologies?!! If a child isn’t bein’ taught not to steal at home, it won’t be long till they learn that it is wrong.
        You can not make anyone obey the 10 commandments!!! When was the last time you broke one of them CM?! 5, 10, 15 mins. ago?!! You miss the whole point!!! Actually there are 613 commandments in the first five books of the Bible, also known as the Torah to the Jewish people, did you know that teacher? Jesus said that if you break the least of them, you might as well of broken them all!!! The 10 commandments (And I love Ted Kopple’s assessment that they aren’t suggestions!) were never given as law but as an example of why we need a Savior!!! Duh…
        Now as to the last time I picked up a book, let me tell you the story of a young man who had just turned 35 yrs. of age and thought he had it all figured out, although he didn’t think hiimself a genius, he thought he was fairly enlightened havin’ grown up in fairly diverse surroundings and had PROUDLY graduated from the college of HK. Well something happened to this young man one night, let’s just call it a “Road to Damascus” experience.
        Like I said this young man who always had thought that he was fairly intellegent, found out that he didn’t know jack ’cause he had always left God out of the equation! Do you know why the Bible states that “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.” Because once you TRULY fear God, you’ll quit doin’ those things you THOUGHT you were gettin’ away with when nobody is watchin’, ’cause you understand that Somebody’s ALWAYS watchin’!!! Oh yeah, it’s me, and like I said I thought I had it ALL figured out. There I stood in my self-righteousness, CONVICTED by the Holy Ghost! It’s not a pretty sight when you see yourself through God’s eyes!!! “Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound that saved a WRETCH like me!” (Emphasis mine!!!) Since accepting Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior, I’ve read and studied more than I EVER studied when I was in school! It has TRULY been the GREATEST leaning experience of my LIFE, to sit and learn at the feet of THE TEACHER!!!
        How about you CM, ready to go back to school?!! Is your lamp trimmed and burning? (Matt. 25:1-13) Because if you’re not looking up, (Luke 21:28) you surely to God must be blind!!! (II Cor. 4:3&4) Surely you don’t don’t want to be TOLD to go hang out with the GOATS!!! (Matt. 25:31-46) Jesus is coming CardinalMo! He loves ya and so do I!!! I pray that you’ll get ready! You may pray a prayer similar to this: “Dear God, I know that You love me. I admit that I’m a sinner. Please forgive me for my sins. I place my faith in Jesus as my Savior and Lord. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.” If you prayed that prayer and meant it with all your heart, know for a certainty that it is impossible for God to lie! (Rom. 10:13) This is what it means to be born-again! (John 3:3) Go find yourself a church, forget about a perfect one, they don’t exist. Surround yourself with Christian friends, they won’t be perfect either, that’s why we need Jesus! Emmerce yourself in Gods’ Word so you’ll know how to fight off ole’ nick. (Eph. 6:13-18) YOU’RE IN THE ARMY NOW SOLDIER!!! And now it’s your job to bring as many lost sheep back into the fold as possible. (Matt. 5:14-16) What?!! Did you think it was going to be easy? (II Tim. 3:12) God be with you! I wish for everyone who reads this letter to know that the writer is a certified Jesus nut with plenty of documentation to prove it!

      • CardinalMo

        Tom, I like this parable of The Sheep and the Goats. Do you mind telling us exactly what it means? Or can you define this passage without relying on more quotes. You are very good at spitting out quotes but seem to be lost as to any definitions. I asked you about your definition of morality. How does society approach this problem of lack of values? The way I see it is that, a lot of people throughout history have been harmed by societies attempts to control/direct/protect the souls of others.

        And by what authority do you judge the heart of others? What laws do we implement in our nation so that all may live as Christians? That is the ultimate goal right? Do we create a Democratic/Theocracy? Would that work for you? Don’t forget to pluck the thorn out of your own eye.

      • Tom W.

        Well for one thing CM, I don’t listen to any preachin’ from a pagan! If you don’t know Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, that’s what you are! I don’t care whether you say you’re an atheist or what, you’re a pagan!!! Second, yes that’s the goal, and we’re almost there!!! Once Christ returns, that’s ALL that’s going to inhabit this earth is Christians! Everybody else’ll be swimmin’ laps in the Lake of Fire! They won’t be stroken, THEY’LL BE SMOKIN’!!! The only thing that we’re ALLOWED to judge is our own heart and mine has undergone exstensive self-examination! Even my best intentions have underlying SELFISH motives!

      • CardinalMo

        You didn’t define the quote…Get off the soap box for awhile. Get to the core of the meaning of the quote.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Tom W. I love your comment up until you said this: “Actually there are 613 commandments in the first five books of the Bible, also known as the Torah to the Jewish people,” Torah was given to all of Israel and not just the Jews.

        Tom W. I may have acted hastily, and I’m good at that but, I’m going to leave my short comment about what I quoted from you alone, but as I sit here I think I know what you meant: you were speaking about the Jewish people today as most people in this day and age don’t know what Torah is. Did I read you correctly?

        My problem comes from listening to so many preachers who claim the OT is all about the Jews so I tend to get worked up when I think that’s where someone is going. I’m sorry about that. The reason I left my short comment alone is so that anyone who reads it will have a seed planted in their brain so that they might one day stop focusing just on what they think is a Jewish message from the Scriptures. The message from the Scriptures is from YHWH and not man.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        I agree with you 100% Katrael! The Bible itself tells you the reason that the law was given to the Israelites was to attract all men unto His law as they would’ve naturally been inclined to do when they saw how the Isrealites prospered, but the Pharisees and the Saducees took that law and corrupted it, even using it as a tool to keep their own people enslaved. I just mentioned that to see if the all-knowing teacher knew, but I guess she had to go to work or another tai chi class! I don’t know what grade she teaches, but anything from jr. high up, I wouldn’t teach unless I was a 10th degree black belt in something and also packin’!!!

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Tom W. Yeah the pharisees did enslave their own people, they made them slaves under the Oral Law. They multiplied the laws until it was impossible to keep it. This is how you tie your shoes, go to the bathroom and a host of other things that the average person knows nothing about. Sound like anything we might know about today? Many of those 613 laws are what many of our basic laws are built around. Some are pretty far out there to our thinking today but many make sense. Don’t have sex with your mother, father, sister, brother, your sheep, dog…don’t execute a person solely on the testimony or one witness… whatever.

        Our legal system has become so burdened with law until you need a specialists to deal with your situation. No general practitioners in the legal business. We are slaves to our law today.

        10th degree in something? You better believe it. I remember they needed armed guards in the schools even when I was in High School. The teachers feared for their life. If the kids didn’t like a teacher the teacher might find out the hard way that they couldn’t fly.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        You know that one of those laws called for the parents of a rebellious teen to bring them before the elders and if they said that they just could not control that young person, they would lead him or her (I guess it included girls?) outside the city gates and they would stone them to death!!!

        If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.” – Duet. 21:18-21 (KJV)

        Jewish tradition holds that it was up to the parents to cast the first stones!!!

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Tom W., that seems pretty harsh and barbaric, for a parent or parents to condemn their child to death, but this was meant to be a preventative measure. If the child was so incorrigible and had already shown a propensity to do evil then that child was certainly going to be a problem for the rest of society. Now the question: just how many parents do you think actually would have resorted to this? I’ll bet that it was very few.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Look at our justice system! Lady Justice traded in her blindfold for some Transition shades, whose darkness or clarity depends on the size of your bank account! That’s another SERIOUS problem facing this country, a totally corrupt legal system! Justice can not be bought and sold in a just society!!!
        With that, good night folks! Time for beddy-bye, SEE YA!!!

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Lilah tov.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        TomW – you should know by now, I have no respect for what you write -

      • Tom W.

        Well Lt, all I can say is that that hurts my feelin’s about as much as Bob no longer talkin to me!!! Sniff… Does anyone have a Kleenex?!!

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      Sirian, this small part of your comment brought something to mind “like 2012 doomsday”. Most of us who are my age or older remember the cold war days and the feelings that accompanied the specter of global annihilation. Add to that the feeling that somehow things would come to an end because the return of Jesus was imminent. So many have heard all of the scary stories of “Y2K”, the 2012 doomsday, one world government, the “Tribulation”, the war against terrorism and a host of other mind numbing scenarios. The first time a person sees graphic and gory violence it hits him like a house falling on his head, the next time it bothers him and eventually he comes to dismiss it like so much background noise. I believe that most of the people in this country are in the state of dismissal now and they are there on purpose. Now, is probably the best time for the 5th column to make it’s final push for the NWO while so many will deny that it will happen just as it is happening right before their very eyes.

      Even I feel that it might be too late to stop it and that a better idea is to prepare for it. The only way that I can see to stop it is if enough get shocked out of their state of dismissal soon enough to fight back. What will it take to shock them back to reality?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Katrael, I truly believe that the only thing that we can do at this juncture is to be in constant prayer and to just let God be God! Read the second Psalm, I believe that it was written prophesying of this day! God sits in Heaven and laughs at these morons who think that they are too smart for him! LOL!!! I think I’ll join Him! My only question is what is He going to do?!! Will it be something like the plaque that swept through the camp of the Assyrians when all seemed lost for Jerusalem at the time of King Hezekiah and the prophet Isaiah?! (II Kings chaps. 18&19) The story of Ester and Haman’s gallows keeps comin’ to mind for some reason! I’m one of those people who has to feel like I’m in control or I’m outta my comfort zone. learning to let go and let God has been a HARD thing for me to learn, but sometimes ya just have to have faith! Sometimes it’s ALL ya got!!!

        Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.’ – Heb. 11:1 (KJV)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55s3T7VRQSc&feature=relmfu

        Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Tom W. I like your message. I remember this from Revelation: Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

        I used to pray that YHWH, although at the time I called him God, would show me how to do this. He set me up over decades to learn how to do it and it only took that long because I’m a hard head. It’s really quite simple but for most doing so would seem unacceptable. You have to be willing to trust him and when He says “let go cause I’ll catch you.” we have to let go and get caught by Him.

        Still, it feels like I need to try to warn as many as possible of what’s coming down the tracks so they’ll know to get off before they get hit. BTW I’m still researching the virgins. It’s not easy. I’ve found lots about child sacrifices but not anything specifically about what I mentioned. I’m still searching though. I don’t remember if Lew White documented his source about this, if it’s even in his book. It’s been a long time.

      • charlie

        Tom W.,,,
        You have been duped ,deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be in the Judeo christian churches,,, you are leading people astray ,,,so,,, get it straight with Acts 2:38…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …
        1Peter 3:21 says “baptism saves you”,,,what does that mean???

      • http://personalliberty william g munson

        This is in reponce to the one about accepting the LORD{JESUS} according to the word of GOD is in ACTS 2:38 where they ask PETER who GOD gave the KEYS to what have we to do!! and HE said REPENT AND BE BAPTIZED AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST! he didn,t say accept the lord as your personal savior! read it for yourself if you are interested in being SAVED!!! it is a comanment not a sugestment!! It says be baptized in {JESUS},s name for remission of sins and if you were baptized in e FATHER AND SON AND HOLY GHOST OR SPIRIT, YOU WERE NOT BAPTIZED RITE!! IT IS THE NAME OF {JESUS] THAT TAKES AWAY THE SINS. AND ACCORDING TO THE WORDS YOU WILL SPEAK IN OTHER TONGUES AS THE SPIRIT GIVE THE UTTERANCE WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST!! CHECK IT OUT IN THE BIBLE. WHEN THE DECIPLES FOUND OTHER MEN THAT WERE FOLLOWS OF JOHN THE BAPTISE THEY ASK IF THE HAD RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST AND THEY SAID THEY HAD NOT EVEN HEARD OF THE HOLY GHOST AND THEY LAID HANDS ON THEM AND THEY RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST AND THEY ASK THEM UNTO WHAT WERE THEY BAPTIZED AND THEY SAID UNTO TO JOHN AND THAT WAS UNTO REPENTANT AND THEY COMANDED THEM TO BE BAPTIZE IN{JESUS} NAME FOR THE HEARD THEM SPEAK IN OTHER TONGUES!! SO IT SHOW YOU AND I HAVE TO DO TO BE SAVED!! IF PETER AND THOSE WERE NOT RIGHT A ANGLE WOULD HAVE COME TO SET HIM RIGHT, AND GOD WOULD NOT HAVE SENT PETER IN CHAPTER TEN TO GO TO CONEALUS, HOUSE TO GIVE THE SAME MESSAGE IF HE WAS NOT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! AND IT SAYS THAT ALL WHO HEARD THE WORD OF THE LORD WAS SAVED!! CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF TO KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO BE SAVED!!!

      • charlie

        Acts 2;38 the first thing to understand and accomplish THEN you can begin to have answers to most of your goofy doubts about King Jesus / God,,, First things First OBEY The First TWO “Orders” of King Jesus at Matthew 6:33,,,notice at Acts 2:38 you get “The Gift of The Holy Spirit ,,,knowledge , understanding and wisdom come from The Holy Spirit…

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        charlie, are you actually addressing the comment about goofy doubts to me? You don’t even have a clue as to what I believe. You don’t know me. My point was about my childhood days.

    • charlie

      Sirian,,,et al,,,
      Good write ,,, “”"They”"” been trying to destroy The Holy Bible also but The King of America ain’t gonna let it happen….

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Speakin’ in tongues again charlie?! There is no one here to interpret chuck!!! TURN or BURN charlie!

      • charlie

        Tom W. ,,,et al,,,
        I ‘m the one that has turned to Acts 2:38 for Salvation,,,your the one that’s in la la land LOL…
        Okeee english requires no interpreter,,,that is IF one has ever been West of the Mississippi river …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

    • charlie

      Katrael,,,et al,,,
      eddie’s trying to say Adolph Hitler was not a Christian,,, he was a Mattoid…

    • http://aol frank

      I am not as eloquent as many of these responses, however I do believe that America is going down a path to the chaos that is going on in the EU. We have the American dollar that has been the gold standard for the world, why would we go to a “global currency”? The only I can think of is to lower us to the level of the rest of the world. We carry almost every other country on our shoulders, if that is diminished by the “world order” America will no longer exist as we know it and we will be part of the global socialist economy. I’m 65 years old so this new world order probably won’t impact myself and my wife as much as others. I only pray for my children and grandchildren that this whole scenario does not play out. God bless America!!

    • Susie Liberty

      Our Southern border in Texas is wide-open to Mexican truckers who don’t even have cargo inspection until Topeka, Kansas. And they’re fussing that We Texans are building our Superhighway Toll Roads fast enough for them!

    • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

      5/8/12, Now does this “N. Am. Union” mean free access of contraband & wetback aliens? Assuming there would be no borders w/ Canada & Mex., that means easier access to TransCanada pipeline. It would also ease embargo restrictions on Cuba. Canada’s population lives, for the most part, within 100 miles of the border & is approximately equal in numbers to that of California. Canada may be able to manage this since their culture is similar to ours; Mexico may be another story. I see both good & bad in this.

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