Obama’s mouthpiece takes aim at motherhood. Holder hears a who? It’s the REAL Buffett Rule. And: nice tie, Louis. All this — plus: an easy “A” at Harvard. Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
Ben Crystalis a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.
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Want something that you actually should be mad about ?
Be mad that the vast majority of republicans in congress
voted against equal pay for equal work for women…..
If the Union at Goodyear had done their job properly, Lily Ledbetter would not have been discriminated against. BTW, she had her own son prosecuted for identity theft in Calhoun County, AL.
daniel
Chisna, if you read the law you would know why the vote was that way. That is okay though as democratic talking points are few and relevant. I am still trying to figure out why Nancy Pelosi would want exemptions from Obamacare for her district. I mean it is full of wonderful stuff that nobody should be discriminated against getting whether they be man or women. You see I bet I could show enough examples of liberal bigotry so as to make the Old South look good in that respect.
vieteravet
That kind of crap should not be legislated. I believe in equal pay ( I have 3 grown daughters). If the jobs are exactly equal, yeah same pay. That’s how the military works and my teaching profession the same.
Tom W.
Part of the stratigy for bustin’ up the traditional family is to allow low income women make more money than your ordinary workin’ stiff, that way ya denigrate the men, turning them into drunken basket cases who throw their hands up and cry uncle. Why should the girl in the office answering telephones make more than the men out in the field doin’ the work?!!
Women get a unfair advantage getting jobs that were in the past a man’s work (Electricians, carpenters, plumbers, etc.), they recieve equal pay even though they can’t physically do equal work!!! But because of equal opportunity laws are given preference to men vying for the same job. This is REVERSE DESCRIMINATION, and is every bit as wrong as descrimination period! How does the old cliche’ about two wrongs go?!! Whomever is the most qualified should get the job despite their race, creed , or gender! That’s TRUE equal opportunity!!!
If y’all still have a problem recieveing equal pay, it’s in the HIGH income jobs, and let’s face it girls, it’s a mans world!!! Just why is it that women can’t land these lucretive jobs? I would think that if women proved themselves capable of these power positions, they would have them! Better work on your golf game ladies!!!
Chisna
WOW Ben….. !!!
So a working mother, or Obama mouthpiece ( as you choose to call her ), who has children points out that a stay at home Mom that has never had to work at a job and raise kids would have a real hard time relating to what a working Mom has to deal with makes you upset ?
But a mouthpiece that call’s your sister a slut and a prostitute for talking in front of members of congress and telling the truth about womens health and contraception is ok with you ?
Yes, Mr. Crystal…. You did defend Rush Limbaughs blatant verbal attack on Sandra Fluke. But you attack Hiliary Rosen for this ? Do you realize what a hypocrite that makes you Mr. Crystal ? Or are you just trying to be funny again. Which by the way….. You aren’t……You are however quite pathetic…
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
Chisna says: So a working mother, or Obama mouthpiece ( as you choose to call her ), who has children points out that a stay at home Mom that has never had to work at a job and raise kids would have a real hard time relating to what a working Mom has to deal with makes you upset?
I don’t think that that is what Hillary Rosen was attempting to point out, Chisna. Rather, what mrs. Rosen was actually saying, is what feminists/liberals have been saying for decades, and showed her contempt for stay at homes moms. They have never been about women’s rights. They are all about women who believe as they do. Everyone else is stupid and worthless. Her attempts to cya is pitiful. Oh, and how can they rail on Ann for staying home to raise her family and at the same time say Sarah is a horrible mother for NOT staying home with her children?
Chisna says: But a mouthpiece that call’s your sister a slut and a prostitute for talking in front of members of congress and telling the truth about womens health and contraception is ok with you?
Chisna, where was your moral outrage when Sarah Palin, and Michelle Backmann were verbally abused by the liberal media? The truth of the matter is that the Democrats and liberal media do not give a rat’s rear end about any of the voting blocs they claim to champion; blacks, women and etc. To the left, people are just media props to be used to increase their power and further their socialistic agenda. Democrats and media campaigning for Limbaugh to be forced off the radio have completely ignored, and in many cases joined in, the high tech lynching of black conservatives and the verbal raping of the dignity of conservative women. As far as the left is concerned, no attack is too much or comment too viscous/disrespectful when the subject is a conservative black or woman. Your glaring hypocrisy is outrageous.
truesoy
So, by your own admission, would you then say that Mitt Romney insulted/offended stay at home mothers when a few months ago he said that:. ‘he’ll forced stay at home mothers t receiving social service assistance to go out to work, even if they have a 2 year old child, to bring ‘dignity’ to their lives.
How about that, was Mitt implying that stay at home moms have no dignity?
Jay, I don’t hear you sound-off; but of course neither I heard Bob Livingston, not Mrs. Romney, and specially Mrs. Romney.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
Yours is a good example, truesoy, of how liberals think women are stupid. Liberals don’t think women know there is a difference between living off the government to stay home and making an agreement with one’s spouse about staying home and raising the kids. The first case strips the adult of the dignity and responsibility that come with adulthood and having a family.
For liberals who don’t understand bigger concepts, I’ll put it in small words: you must support your children. If there are multiple breadwinners in a household, you should arrange for a parent to be home with the children, if possible. If it is not financially possible to do so, then you must go to work.
This is the basic premise of the Hilary Rosen/Ann Romney fight that liberals don’t want to understand. They think that staying home with the kids is a luxury that only multimillionaires can afford. But millions of families arrange their work to allow children to be raised by their parents. If you are a single parent, your choices are more limited: you must support your children. Even a liberal should be able to understand that.
http://naver samurai
He wants them to work for their check and live off of welfare, so what is so hard for you to understand Truesoy? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
I am in NO way a Romney fan for reasons everyone who posts here know quite well, but what a birth control idea! Make these single moms who go lookin’ for love in all the wrong places go to work to support all the illegitimate babies they’re havin’!!! I’ve got to give him TWO thumbs up for that one!!!
truesoy
Jay;
At no time it is implied in my comment that ‘liberal think’ women are, stupit nor inferior. On the other hand, conservatives throughout history had made a point to suppress women. It was not that long ago, by history’s standard, that women were not allowed to vote, and it was the ‘liberals’ that fought for those rights while conservatives opposed it.
Therefore, a questions that begs to be asked, is:, where would conservative women be today without their ‘right’ to vote?.
They have a liberal to thank for that.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
samurai
Care to cite a source showing it was only the libs that granted women the right to vote? I’m sure there were also GOP and conservatives on the bandwagon also Truesoy. Just like it was the libs and dems that did not want to abollish slavery. Need to get your facts straight before you post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
truesoy says: Therefore, a questions that begs to be asked, is:, where would conservative women be today without their ‘right’ to vote?.
They have a liberal to thank for that.
Just like we hear that the Democrat Party has been the champion of Civil Rights and have been the stalwart advocates for the rights of minorities, we have to go back in time once again and see a different picture. It was not until 1920 that women finally won the vote throughout the nation.
Sure, some of the battles for women’s suffrage was overcome by that time in various parts of the nation, but it was in 1920 with the election of Republican Warren G. Harding over Democrat James M Cox that the women’s vote in this nation really had an impact upon our nation. The Nineteenth Amendment that gave full voting rights to women across the nation did not go into effect until August 26, 1920, just in time for the fall elections.
Prior to this it was a long road for women in this nation to be recognized as equal citizens with the same privileges as men and even former slaves. In 1913, a march of eight thousand participants on President Woodrow Wilson’s inauguration day protested the fact that women were not allowed the right to vote in the election. Of the roughly half a million spectators that watched, around two hundred were injured in the violence that broke out. During Wilson’s second inauguration in 1917 another march took place. They were opposed by a well-organized and well-funded anti-suffrage movement which argued that most women really didn’t want the vote, and they were probably not qualified to exercise it anyway. It was not until women entered into the workforce taking up jobs in factories to support the war, as well as taking more active roles in the war than in previous wars that they could no longer be ignored as they were previously.
Alice Paul who went on a hunger strike on October 30th to be only a few days later force fed while behind bars
It was not until after the war that Wilson could no longer ignore that women’s war work should be rewarded with recognition of their political equality. He was a late advocate for the women’s vote and this hurt the party come the election of 1920 when the women across the nation came out in force to vote the Democrat party out of office.
JUKEBOX
Chisna, how do you defend a slimeball like Ed Schultz, who called a “REAL” working mother like Laura Ingraham a Slut?
vieteravet
NO! A working HOMO, who was inseminated or adolpted! My youngest was adolpted but my wife and I were married over ten years before the adopltion.
samurai
Way too much kool aid on a daily basis. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
Chisna, your last name isn’t Clinton is it?!!
jersey jim
War on Women backfired against the diarrhea tongue liberals with this one! However, they are still succeeding in diverting their blockhead communist policies away from blame-mode obama’s destructive track-record!!!
Deerinwater
Not doubt, that made sense at some point to you.
Expand more on this “backfire” thingy. oh! and the diarrhea as well.
samurai
Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
Diarrhea is that crap that issues from your lips Deerluv2godownonit!!!
Brian
The true colors are showing again with this administration along with that of the left…
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
Deconstructing the Family
The family is one of the most basic and universal of human institutions. And from a biblical point of view, it is one of the most crucial. Indeed, it is the first and most important institution created by God. It precedes the state and all other divinely ordained institutions. But it is not just religion that praises marriage and family.
The Spanish philosopher George Santayana once remarked that the family is “one of nature’s masterpieces”. Indeed, it has been enjoyed by millions of people around the world for many centuries.
The family unit is a major force of social cohesion and stability, the ideal means to raise and nurture children, and the best means of dispensing social services, such as education, health and welfare. No social invention comes close to comparing with the institution of the family, and its close companion, the institution of marriage.
Because of its central importance in the divine scheme, and to much of “bourgeoisie” history, it is perhaps to be expected that it should be subject to continued attack. Indeed, the family today is undergoing a radical assault from a number of quarters. This battering that is almost unprecedented in recent history. It seems that the institutions of marriage and family have come under exceptionally heavy fire, with hostile salvos coming from all sides.
Many social commentators have noted this all-out attack on the family. Consider the many books which have appeared lately – from secular and religious publishing houses alike – with titles such as, The War Against the Family, The Family Under Siege, In Defense of the Family, The Assault on Parenthood, The Marriage Problem, Utopia against the Family, Haven in a Heartless World: The Family Besieged, The Family on Trial, The Broken Hearth, The War Against Parents, and The War Over the Family.
A few representative quotes can help to set the stage. The battle over the family can especially be found in the intellectual and political arenas. As Philip Abbott has put it,
“The attack on the family in modern political thought has been sweeping and unremitting. Although the critiques vary in their intensity, dissatisfaction with the family is nearly universal in modern political thought”.
James Q. Wilson echoes these thoughts: “Since the Enlightenment, the dominant tendency in legal and philosophical thought has been to emancipate the individual from all forms of tutelage – the state, revealed religion, ancient custom – including the tutelage of kin. This emancipation has proceeded episodically and unevenly, but relentlessly. Liberal political theory has celebrated the individual and constrained the state, but it has been silent about the family.”
Yet as sociologist Robert Nisbet has remarked: “It should be obvious that family, not the individual, is the real molecule of society, the key link in the social chain of being. It is inconceivable to me that either intellectual growth or social order or the roots of liberty can possibly be maintained among a people unless the kinship tie is strong and has both functional significance and symbolic authority. On no single institution has the modern political state rested with more destructive weight than on the family. From Plato’s obliteration of the family in his Republic, through Hobbes, Rousseau, Bentham, and Marx, hostility to family has been an abiding element in the West’s political clerisy.”[
And as Nisbet remarks elsewhere, governments are often the source of greatest danger to the family: “From Burke on it has been a conservative precept and a sociological principle since Auguste Comte that the surest way of weakening the family, or any other vital group, is for the government to assume, and then monopolize, the family’s historic functions.”
The fact that the family is under attack seems pretty clear. The reasons why this is the case are less certain and more complex however. There are many variables in the equation. One can argue that the secularization process in the Western world is a leading factor. Changing economic conditions, resulting in the mass employment of women in the workforce is another factor. Changing social and cultural values also have their role to play. The counter culture of the 60s and 70s is a case in point, with the rise of feminism, gay liberation, the sexual revolution, and other radical social upheavals. Changes in the legal world, especially with introduction of no-fault divorce, have also contributed. The rise in mother-headed households, and the disappearance of fatherhood could also be explored. And the general devaluation of marriage is also an important consideration.
While other factors could be mentioned, and each could merit its own discussion, I want to focus on just one part of the equation. This has to do with the tendency amongst many of our intelligentsia (educators, social commentators, media personalities, politicians and the like) to try to attack the family from a social/historical angle. That is, by seeking to alter the facts of history, they hope to convince many that the family is simply an historical aberration.
They want to us believe not only that the natural family is a recent invention, but that very few people in fact live in setting of the natural family. Thus there is a concerted effort to undermine the family both in terms of its historicity and its universality.
No one is attempting to deny you a dysfunctional family Jay.
Who stands in your way?
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
Feigning inferior intellectual accumen in light of indisputable evidence, is, it seems, always your preferred weapon of choice. But that is just who you are, deer.
samurai
I was expecting something more intelligent than this personal attack deer eating yellow snow. But alas! A leopard can never change its spots. Classic liberal strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
If you believe the Bible Deerheadupyoass, the earth’s first family was dysfunctional, therefore every family since has suffered from one form of dysfuction or another! I’ll bet your sister used to beat the sh!t out of you chump!!!
truesoy
Jay;
Many people in academia, church, etc., tries to spin the reasons for the changing ‘structure’ of family, but the real reason lies with the people themselves.
People’s values and priorities change and so does the ‘traditiona’ family value.
It is what society wants and what it does, regardless of what you, or I, or anyone else might think or want. And it doesn’t have anything to do with country or/and God. It is a natural result from the evolution of life’s changing events.
Accept it, and move on.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
That is your, opinion, truesoy; and you are most certainly entitled to it. Cheers…
Karolyn
The only thing constant is change.
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
There’s no such thing as change, Karolyn; unless by change you mean; erosion and deterioration of moral values. If so, then yes, the only thing constant; is erosion and deterioration!
http://naver samurai
Everything deals with God and country or haven’t you been paying attention? The breakdown of the traditional family by the libs, secularists, humanists, progressives, queers, atheists, etc., are one of the main reasons for the lessening of morals and ethics in this great country of ours. You say accept it and move on? Such a less intelligent response. Common practice for a lib. Why don’t you go back to church and really study the Bible and restudy our Constitution, founding fathers, and our Christian founding. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
“Well the trouble with our liberal friends is not they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”
Ronald Reagan
Tom W.
Yeah trueboy, we’re about to evolve ourselves right into extinction! Hey Karlolyn, do I HAVE to tell you what to do with the change?!! I didn’t think so, just checkin’! You mean like saggy tits Jay?!!
denny
this should tell the moms who to vote out of our white house
Deerinwater
and how did you surmise that denny?
“Obama’s mouthpiece takes aim at motherhood. ”
It’s more like returning fire when fired upon I would think.
Seems rather clear, the GOP has a preoccupation with a woman uterus and reproduction by planing to enact laws to regulate medical care that focus on women’s health issues.
This desire to self 20th century science in favor of abiding to a 7000 year old text. A time when they elected to stoned a woman for the slightest transgressions seems rather caveman to me.
I want what women want for themselves, I suggest that you put a sock in it and listen to them.
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
deer says: Seems rather clear, the GOP has a preoccupation with a woman uterus and reproduction by planing to enact laws to regulate medical care that focus on women’s health issues.
As usual, deer, you have that backwards. The preoccupation is not with the women’s uterus, or reproduction, or denying medical care, for that matter; rather, averting murder.
deer says: This desire to self 20th century science in favor of abiding to a 7000 year old text. A time when they elected to stoned a woman for the slightest transgressions seems rather caveman to me.
But the pressure exerted on a woman to sacrifice her un-born child for the whimsiest of selfish reasons is not? Seems the cavemen and cavewomen are alive and well today, and are referred to as, progressive/liberal/democrats.
deer says:I want what women want for themselves, I suggest that you put a sock in it and listen to them.
You should really follow your own advice, deer. But then again, your kind can only give advice, not big on following the advice offered.
eddie47d
Stoning women was a Conservative value and at that time wasn’t discouraged by the synagogue. Nice attempt at twisting it around Jay.
vieteravet
Hey. dear in the headlights, if a women has a medical problem and truly needs birth control, she can get it. Why should catholic (I’m not catholic) colleges pay for some 30 year old’s slutting around. I like the aspin between the knees comment. Conservatives don’t give a damn about this twit’s utterus; it’s a first amendment thing ya know – Freedom of religion!
http://naver samurai
I see deer eating yellow snow is against traditions, wars against the unborn, and is now sounding like Robert Smith ny going against God and the Bible. Neeeeed to be making the popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
There is nothing BIGGER than a Texas twit!!!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
eddie says: Stoning women was a Conservative value and at that time wasn’t discouraged by the synagogue. Nice attempt at twisting it around Jay.
Stoning was a form of capital punishment, among others; crucifiction, be-headings, pummeling, ect.., and not just for for adultery or fornication, but for all sorts of crimes, in particular, treason; and was administered to both, men and women. You will note, that in our present day, we still administer capital punishment, for a score of henious crimes, however, have restricted it to only lethal injection. I’m not sure what your point is, eddie, but if your point is that administring justice is strictly a Conservative value, i would point out, that not all who identify themselves a liberals, would agree with you! Cheers…
eddie47d
It’s the Conservatives who Always encourage and endorse draconian punishments within the court system. Isolation (solitary confinement),longer sentencing,death penalty,not authorizing DNA testing and so forth.
http://naver samurai
Just ignore Ed Jay. He’s drunk on kool aid. BTW, I see Ed has forgotten that the muslims still practice stoning today and they are not conservative, but radical. Nice try Ed, but your turds just don’t float here. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
eddie says: It’s the Conservatives who Always encourage and endorse draconian punishments within the court system. Isolation (solitary confinement),longer sentencing,death penalty,not authorizing DNA testing and so forth.
Soft-on-crime liberals are wringing their hands over the number of Americans in jail. But rather than urge “alternatives to incarceration” or the wholesale opening of jail and prison cells, one answer might be to do something about the LIBERAL media and entertainment industries glorifying violence and the “thug life.”
According to the Justice Department, as reported by AP, seven million American adults are right now in prison, on probation, or on parole. That means one in every 32 Americans is currently being prosecuted or recently released for committing crimes. Of the seven million, 2.2 million were in prison or jail, 4.1 million were on probation, and 784,208 were on parole at the end of 2005.
But here’s the nub: the report also shows, according to AP, that “in the 25-29 age group, 8.1 percent of black men, about one in 13, are incarcerated, compared with 2.6 percent of Hispanic men and 1.1 percent of white men.”
Is this because of racism? There’s no evidence of that. Rather, it’s because too many young blacks resort to a life of crime. And one factor behind that, the evidence clearly shows, is the LIBERAL media.
The LIBERAL media as a whole presents few positive images for young black males to aspire to, while offering a whole slew of negative images to emulate. The multi-platinum rapper Snoop Dogg regularly gets press coverage for brushes with the law. He was recently “arrested for investigation of being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm, possessing cocaine, transporting marijuana and having a false compartment in his vehicle,” AP reported.
In the same article, the AP reports that Snoop Dogg will be arraigned in early December “following his Sept. 27 arrest for investigation of carrying a deadly weapon at John Wayne Airport in Santa Ana–The rapper was convicted in 1990 of cocaine possession and was charged with gun possession after a 1993 traffic stop–(and) He was acquitted of murder in 1996 following the death of an alleged street gang member killed by gunfire from the vehicle in which he was traveling.”
This is one rapper with a significant rap sheet. Yet, this is the role model that young black males are given to emulate.
Even the few positive black male characters on television have criminal connections. On the Fox television show “House,” the black character played by Omar Epps, Dr. Eric Foreman, has a criminal record and is often asked to break into the homes of patients to do medical background checks.
Even those men who could be role models for young black males are often ridiculed and had their very identities as black men questioned. Terms like Uncle Tom and Token have been used to describe and denigrate men who could be their role models.
So where are the leaders of the black community who are speaking out? Jesse Jackson has been busy calling for a boycott on sales of the Seinfeld seventh-season DVD, because of remarks made by one of the cast members at a comedy club in Los Angeles. The campaign has backfired. According to the Washington Post, sales “have shot up 75 percent over Seasons 5 and 6,” which were released the same time last year. But it served Jackson’s purpose-he got a lot of face time on TV.
In his latest cause, Rev. Al Sharpton has been meeting with the New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and New York Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly about the shooting death of an unarmed black man by undercover police officers. According to the Washington Post, Sharpton sees this recent shooting “as part of a pattern of overzealous city cops gunning down unarmed black men.” The facts are not yet in but Sharpton has already drawn his conclusions and already has the police convicted of a crime. Of course, this is the same Al Sharpton who sided with Tawana Brawley when she falsely accused a group of white men of raping her.
Young black males need positive role models, and for someone to speak out on the incarceration of a generation of young black males, but to put the blame where it belongs-on those who choose a life of crime, and those in the LIBERAL media who glorify it.
With one in every 13 black men between the ages of 25 and 29 in prison, it is time for the LIBERAL media to stop giving black males only negative role models to emulate.
We will also be waiting for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to take on the gangster rappers.
Something else was brought to mind regarding Hillary Rosen. Liberal women like her don’t just downgrade and denigrate moms, they do it to any woman who doesn’t/or isn’t interested in going for the career they feel you should have. In Chicago I worked as a legal secretary and didn’t have any problems from male attorneys, but the female attorneys were monsters. They treated the legal secretaries like garbage beneath them. Needless to say, female attorneys have a hard time keeping legal secretaries. I’ve heard this same complaint from other women in support working positions. It’s usually the female boss that makes everyone’s life miserable.
So while Rosen only went so far with her dirty comment and miserable tweets, she and women like her (and there are many), only communicate with other women of the same mind-set. Everyone else runs from them like the plague.
Meteorlady
I’m so sick of this. I wish they would outlaw campaigning until 6 months before the actual election.
So I just heard the most disheartening news yet. Obama signed an Executive Order to classify zones where free speech and demonstration will not be allowed. It’s all up to the Secret Service where these “zones” will be.
Is anyone out there going to write their congressional leaders about this infringement on the 1st Amendment? I’m scared for this country for the first time in my adult life.
Warrior
Well, when you have “communists” running the country, what would one expect? “Communists” only know how to “RULE” one way.
truesoy
Warrior, and to think people like you are allowed to vote, scary, really scary!!!
Boy, are we ever screwed.
God saves us all!!!!!
Sincerely,
Truesoy
http://naver samurai
Still looking in the mirror Truesoy? Its a shame to know that there are morons like you that are allowed to vote. You and your ilk are disgraces to this country. Also, you should be careful invoking the name of God. Remember the 3rd Commandment, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
trueboy, and to think that they even allow morons (And this includes you also Karlolyn!) like yourself to live!!! I’m 100% pro-life but it’s a shame that your moms didn’t have the right to choose! By the way Karlolyn, how many of your sons turned out gay?!
NONCOMMIT
WHY ON EARTH DOES THE REPUBLICANS AND THE NEWS MEDIA FALL FOR THIS KRAP, OBAMA HAS ONE OF HIS STUDGES START A FLUKY DISCUSSION OF SOME THING TO GET EVERYBODY EXCITED AND THEY ALL FALL FOR IT TO KEEP YOUR MINDS OFF WHAT HE’S PULLING IN THE BASEMENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. LAST ONE WAS THE SEX LIFE OF FLUKE IN COLLEGE.
RIGHT NOW HE’S WORKING ON NOT LETTING ARIZONA NOT HAVE WATER, WHAT’S NEXT AND WE’RE ALL SETTING HERE WORRYING ABOUT MOM’S WORKING, WAKE UP PEOPLE WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO THINK ABOUT THEN THESE STUPID FAKE SUBJECTS. YOU BETTER KNOW WHAT YOUR VOTING FOR IN NOVEMBER, HE SAID HE’S NOT DONE YET AND IF HE GETS IN THERE AGAIN WE’LL FIND OUT IN A HURRY IF HE DOESN’T HAVE HALF OF IT DONE BEFORE HE GETS KNOCKED OUT OF THERE. i CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE GOOD PEOPLE WE HAD IN AMERICA THAT HAD GOOD SENSE.
chuckb
you are exactly right, all these things in the news including this trayvon martin thing is nothing but a diversionary tactic by this crooked white house.to divert peoples mind from the moves barry is making to get his agenda thru.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
chuckb, you’re saying that the fatal shooting of a FL teenager is just a diversionary tactic?!! I can agree with the other crap, but that’s STUPID!!! As far as we’ve come in race relations, in some ways I feel that it’s worse today than ever!
louie1
You have described Obama’s ‘diversionary’ tactics to a tee. You have described Obama’s ‘diversionary’ tactics to a tee.
samurai
Well said. I couldn’t have said it any better. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
truesoy
Do you all smoke crack from the same pipe?, just wondering, you know?
Sincerely,
Truesoy
samurai
Ah yes! The personal attack. Classic liberal strategy. Been looking in the mirror again, eh Truesoy? Notice how you libs always attack the samurai. Must be because I’m telling the truth. We all know that you libs can’t handle the truth, so you attack the source or messenger of the truth. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Karolyn
Why don’t YOU look in a mirror, samurai. Who called who a moron? (among other things.) Classic conservative personal attack.
http://naver samurai
Show me in the post he answered where I made a personal attack. If agreeing with someone is a personal attack, so be it. I call them as I see them Karolyn. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
What in the HELL does truesoy suppose to mean, trueidiot would more suit ya a$$hole!!! Karlolyn, you’re pitiful! samurai, your vision is 20/20 Bro!!!
Karolyn
Tom – YOUR vision is totally nonexistent! Why do you feel the need to be so offensive?
samurai – You DID call truesoy a moron, did you not? And don’t you get tired of that “popping sound” comment? It really is getting old. Can’t think of anything different to say?
samurai
I call them like I see them Karolyn, but I could always think of other things to say. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
The congeries of ideological positions known as “political correctness” has long posed a threat to Western civilization. As an ideology, it has played a central role in the war against the Western intellectual and political tradition. Incorporated into economics, its
proponents have encouraged protests against capitalism and provided fuel to the pursuit of what they describe as “more equitable distributions” of wealth, based usually on some ideological formula. And as part of the vernacular of the last few decades, it has literally changed the lexicon in America and elsewhere.
What are the origins of a force this great? And what kind of world will ours become if political correctness continues to permeate our culture unabated?
These questions and many others are answered in Howard S. Schwartz’s Society Against Itself: Political Correctness and Organizational Self-Destruction.
Using the denotative definition of words like “diversity,” the suppressed results of studies that question the benefits of political correctness, and the terminology of Oedipal and anti-Oedipal psychology, Schwartz, a professor of organizational behavior in the School of Business at Oakland University, explains the foundation of political correctness and warns readers of the great danger it poses.
Regarding the foundations, Schwartz credits the university for the creation and maintenance of political correctness as we know it today, yet he also sees it firmly nurtured and rooted in large businesses and corporations. And both of these assertions are valid within his argument, for his overarching position is that “political correctness is an organizational process.”
He explains this “process” through an argument that posits political correctness as a struggle between maternal and paternal aspects of our society and culture, and particularly our organizations.
For example, using the traditional Western psychology of the sex roles as a springboard, Schwartz shows how authority, objectivity, and truth demands are tied to the father—the paternal—while forgiveness, subjectivity and plurality are tied to the mother—the maternal. In this framework, we comprehend a literal hatred of the father, which in politically correct language has been termed “‘the white male power structure’ or ‘Patriarchal hegemony.’” We see the father—the authority in our lives—as evil for making demands on us and for standing between us and the perceived kindness, i.e., indulgence, of the mother. (Schwartz makes it clear that “individual mothers and fathers can and do differ greatly in how they represent these two distinct domains.”)
But in the traditional Western framework used by Schwartz, the father—and by extension, all demands against our self-created autonomy—are repressive in our eyes.
Our repulsion at the father—at authority, objectivity, and truth demands—is so great that we see these as representing “a devaluation and contempt for those who are not heterosexual white males.” Thus we equate the father’s constancy and refusal to change as “sexism, racism, and homophobia.”
This framing is crucial to understanding the various wars against everything from the capitalistic American economy to the traditional family. In the name of “love” and equality protestors march on Wall Street and in the same vein, same-sex couples seek to obtain the same type of marriage as heterosexual couples. What the reader sees through Schwartz’s book is that these skirmishes, though seemingly different in their aims, are actually part of the same overarching conflict. For in their simplest form, they represent the war against authority, objectivity, and truth demands.
Perhaps these things come through most clearly when Schwartz describes the impact they have on the church, and how they’ve really left us with two different conceptions of the church. One, grounded in objectivity, strives “to fulfill the demands that God has made” and to become like him. The other, having cut itself free of such moorings, “abolishes the requirement of becoming like [God]” and literally “calls for reorienting our lives to be against” authority, objectivity, and truth demands.
In the church grounded on objectivity, we find meaning outside of ourselves. In the church which has abandoned objectivity, meaning is to be found within ourselves, and the rituals and liturgies of the church are reconceived simply as modes of self-expression. Even these summaries of Schwartz’s points go a long way in explaining why the church seems so anemic in the twenty-first century. We have too often traded the truth for a lie under the assumption that the lie was just another kind of truth.
Early in Society Against Itself, Schwartz demonstrates the fallacy of “another kind of truth” by showing how the words we use to make political correctness palatable don’t actually communicate what their users claim. Moreover, they often stand for practices that are proven failures, but which we refuse to let go because we are caught in the current that flows from the Oedipal to the anti-Oedipal (and our rebellion against authority, objectivity, and truth claims is far more important to us than precision along the way).
Schwartz uses as an example the word “diversity,” which he shows is not commonly used to denote real “diversity” but as a means of warring against the natural order of society (and therefore, against the strong traits of a society aligned along the lines of authority, objectivity, and truth claims). He also demonstrates that the pursuit of such “diversity” has been an utter failure: costing billions of dollars in diversity initiative implementation, yet producing only inefficiency, lowered standards of achievement, and the slow death of organizational distinctiveness.
Yet we continue pursuing diversity, churches that reflect the times, and a societal framework in which the old and gray is traded for the new and shiny. While we may not realize it at the moment, and may not admit it, through this process we hand over the reigns of our lives to what Schwartz describes as the “emotional power” of political correctness.
Not only are we none the better for having done so, we are actually worse. For we, like the society in which we live, have taken a course that sets us against ourselves.
A. W. R. Hawkins
Meteorlady
I was born on a reservation in North Dakota. I am Sioux. The most insulting and disgusting thing you can do to me is classify me as a “minority”. I am a citizen of this country and deserve to be treated as a first class citizen by my government. The very term “minority” supposes that we are already failures because of past mistreatment by “white” people. This is not something that a “white” person today has done, it’s based on past mistakes by people in power.
Minority gives entire ethnic groups an excuse for failure, for being poor, or for being lazy. Believe me I see it often when returning home. It gives them special treatment in our school systems and throughout their lives, but it has not made their lives any better. Most don’t make it very far because they “believe” that they are failures. To accept that people are somehow different because of a skin color or ethnic orgins is just a racist and selfish act by liberasl in order to maintain control of these groups and garner votes.
Julie Baigent
Very well said. Each individual should be judged by their character, morals and ethics, and not favored for belonging to a minority class as defined by the libs. This is the meaning of equality. Equal opportunity to learn, work hard, fail and succeed. Not to shame a group based on their color to give away what they achieved through education, hard work, failure and success, or even luck.
Opal the Gem
Meteorlady…I think you are being overly sensative. What you need to do is look at the word “minority” in the context in which it was used. If the comparison is in population numbers the use is non-threatening however if it is used in the context of the miriad of programs that supposedly “help” the minority group but in fact only serve to say “you cannot suceed without ‘our’ help” then you are indeed correct in your feelings.
Tom W.
Very well said yourself Julie! Equal rights are not favored rights!!! A level playing field is just that, LEVEL! As a 53 yr.old caucasion male, I’ve suffered from reverse descrimination and nepitism all my life! People should be treated as equals no matter what race, creed, or gender to which they belong! You shouldn’t be shown favortism simply because you belong to a minority!!!
samurai
“No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Much to be regretted would it be were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly.”
George Washington 1788
This could be just another neglecting that the libs and feminazis are doing to get us to depart more than we already have. This could also be a step in the socialization of America by Obama bin Laden and the lib wackos. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
I believe that America is the great Christian experiment samurai! There are many paralels between the Israelites entering the promised land and the American experience. The Israelites were given God’s laws to attract other peoples to themselves, which they would’ve been naturally inclined to do when they saw how the Israelites prospered. What happened? The self-rightous Pharasees and the Saducees took the law and became stingy with it’s promises not only to the gentiles, but to their OWN people as well!!! We too were a people who set out to establsih a land based on the principle that ALL men are CREATED EQUAL, endowed by their CREATOR with certain UNALIENABLE rights, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS!!! We too were to use these God given rights to attract other nations to ourselves so that ALL men would long for FREEDOM! What did we do? The same thing as the Pharasees and Saducees!!!
JESUS IS COMIN’ EVERYBODY! YOU’D BETTER GET READY!!! Speaking of which, it’s time to get ready for church! Have a BLESSED day everyone! Sirian, I pray that you and yours made it through the storms OK Buddy!!!
samurai
Well said Tom W. I hope you had a good service today. We sure did. Our pastor was talking about our God given rights written in the 1st Amendment. Many of us, to count myself, agreed with what he was preaching. It is amazing how much of our founding you can find in the Bible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Tom W.
We had an AWESOME service samurai!!! I LOVE church, tell that to some of the people that I knew before I knew God! They wouldn’t believe you, they’d say that DRUNKEN WOMANIZIN’ POTHEAD?!! JESUS SAVES!!! I’m livin’ proof! Our pastor took the day off from preachin’, he was there and all most in tears, he and his family just recently had a plumbing emergency that caused $15K in water damage that the insurance company wouldn’t cover! Between the congregation and the Baptist Association, ALL the repairs were made and our pastor and family never had to spend one night in a hotel! NOBODY in the area I live in does more for the homeless and the destitude than our pastor, TRULY a man of GOD!!!
I sure pray that our buddy Sirian is OK!!!
Pat
Well, what did you expect from the “not so sharp” regime!
jopa
The above article claims the woman that made the comment about Ann Romney is Obamas mouthpiece.Hardly, in fact she is a Democrat however she is just a lobbyist for the recording industry.After I watched a story about Mormons on the Nat. Geo. channel I realized all Mormon women are expected to be stay at home Moms and are mainly for breeding, housework and taking care of the children.The father or head of household is the Prophet that you speak to when you want to speak to god in that he is somewhat of a god in their religion.It may not have been her idea not to join the 9 to 5 workforce, but if she did she should not expect equal pay as promoted by her husband Mitt and the Guv. of Wisconsin,Walker.President Obama did denounce her statement but if you took the time to hear the rest of what she said it wasn’t as bad as everyone is making it out to be.Mostly politics again.
Meteorlady
I have lived and worked among Mormans for years. They work hard, support each other when they need to, and there are a lot of Morman women that work outside the home. Besides, what has a religion to do with anything?
dfinch
What you’re talking about pertains to all religions in 1830. Research another religion and you’ll find this to be true. Our best friends are mormon and we’re methodist. There’s very little difference between us.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
I didn’t know the Methodists teach that if you follow their teachings and doctrines, you’ll become a god when you leave this world dfinch!
Quote: The scriptures say it, and I defy all the learning and wisdom and all the combined powers of earth and hell together to refute it. Here, then, is eternal life–to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings. and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power. And I want you to know that God, in the last days, while certain individuals are proclaiming His name, is not trifling with you or me.” (LDS President Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.14, p.305-6, LDS Collectors Library ’97 CD-ROM)
Quote: “Intelligent beings are organized to become Gods, even the Sons of God, to dwell in the presence of the Gods, and become associated with the highest intelligences that dwell in eternity. We are now in the school, and must practice upon what we receive.” (LDS President Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, p.245, LDS Collectors Library ’97 CD-ROM)
I have heard that Methodists are also an offshoot of the Freemasons!!!
JUKEBOX
Jopa, have you heard how many times she has visited the WH and the Oval Office? She is a shill for Obama, and he threw her under the bus, just like he has done to many others.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
And probadly under the desk in the Oval Office too! Why should Slick Willie have all the fun?!!
Robert Handy
This has been a concerted “war against hetersexual
marriage”and Male/Female relations” since the 1960′s. It has been “exacerbated” by the election of the “Marxist Homosexual” Presidentcy, Of Barrack Hussein Obama! His own Marriage, is a “front” for “Propaganda” purposes. It has been “well researched”and “documented” that, children reared in single-parent environments (female-only) dislpay an “inordinant amount” of Anti-Social,and Behavior.Boy’s and Girl’s,who do not form a “Strong Bond” with a Father,suffer from a list of “dyfunctional” Pathological Personality-disorder’s, such as, low-self-esteem, homosexuality promiscuous-behavior, lack of Values,(Criminal Behavior) Anger-issues, ETC… It is “mind boggeling” how “anyone” could hate “normal” Women” who exibit the the “GOD GIVEN, traits of normal “female sexuality,” maternal-instinct, gentleness, grace,and compassion,These are the things that,”make men love women.”!!!
Karolyn
Care to cite some links to back up your assertions about kids raised in single-parent households. I know a few single mothers; and their kids came out exceptionally well-balanced and are good people.
daniel
Karolyn we are great actors and actresses that is why you only are allowed to see what you described. I am one of those statistics guilty of more than one of the results of single parenthood. Please for Pete’s sake notice that I said guilty. Before these problems can be overcome you must become responsible for your actions. I know liberals don’t like that “R” word but sorry there it is.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Karlolyn, did you read the story I posted in response to Alondra earlier?! Has anyone ever noticed that most gay men were raised in a single parent home by a domineering mother figure who ran their husband off with their self-centered ambitions and desires, and then passed their hatred for the opposite sex off onto their child because they felt abandoned?!!
Keep Sirian in our prayers everybody! Has anyone heard from him since the storms ravished Oklahoma yesterday?!!
truesoy
Case in point, President Obama, raise by a single mon; and he turned out alright.
Karolyn, you are right on this one.
However to what democratic strategist Rosen was referring to was that Mrs. Romney never had to deal in the job market because her wealth allowed her to stay at home, alrhough, I will like toknow abouyt her ‘nanny’ if there was one.
Another point of interest here is that while republicans are making ‘hay’ out this one, they forget, maybe selectively, that just a few months ago Mitt Romney was saying that he’ll reform welfare for single mothers so they’ll have to go out to work ‘to bring dignity into their lives’. How about that!. Was Mitt Romney implying there is ‘no dignity’ in staying at home mom?, and where is Mrs. Romney in all this, now?
But best of all, where is/was Bob Livingston then?. He is quiet, very quiet, of course.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
samurai
Wrong answer Truesoy. He meant to get them working so they can support their families and not stay on welfare. Why should we let single parent households stay on welfare and not work? Why should we let single mothers stay on welfare, milking the system, maybe having more kids, putting them on welfare, as we all know that welfare breeds more welfare? Obama bin Laden turned out OK? What is that weed you have been smoking? His mother was a socialist/communist, so her ways were taught to Obama bin Laden. Also, the muslim ways were taught to him from his step father in Indonesia. He’s about as mixed up as Farakkhan in the head. BTW, since he isn’t a natural born citizen, he is in the White House illegally. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Karolyn
Tom – that’s bullcrap. None of the gay men I have ever known were raised in single parent homes (And in my 65 yearws I have known quite a few). One of my best friends, a gay Christian conservative, was raised in a family of 5 boys and one girl with two active parents. Neither have any of the gay women. To justify your statement, you need to cite a source other than “Ever notice…”
http://naver samurai
That’s a lie Karolyn. You can’t be a gay Christian. You can’t call yourself a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. Being gay is a sin in the eyes of God and is punishable by hellfire and brimstone. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Karolyn
Well, samurai, he seems to be a lot more Christian than you. He doesn’t personally attack people and is one of the most honest, sincere, kindest men I’ve ever met. Even when we have had “discussions” on our opposing political views, he maintains civility and above all is a true friend.
http://naver samurai
Its not the way he is acting Karolyn. If he acts, as you say he does, that’s fine. No problem. But the Bible says that it is wrong and a perversion from the natural ways that God has set up. How about if a girl is a Christian, but sleeps around with men, is she Christian? No. How about the person that goes to church, but gets drunk the night before? Is he acting or living like a Christian? No. So its the person’s lifestyle that is keeping him from entering heaven. Do you understand what I’m saying now Karolyn? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
truesoy, you’re a f#@kin’ idiot! If a single woman is going to have babies, then she needs to go to work and support them! How’s the old saying go? If your gonna play, you gotta pay! WE shouldn’t have to support her children, if she can’t afford them, then there’s many straight couples out there who can’t have children of their own, who would give that baby a FINE home! You’re an absolute moron!!!
http://naver samurai
Well said Tom W. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
What you say is correct, Robert. However, there are the exceptions; rare as they may be.
I read that last week, Tom. Only in America does one grease the palms of those who want to kill you. I’m very sure Netanyahu is none too happy about that and I don’t blame him.
http://www.facebook.com/Hepper27 Robert Davis
If Romneys kids had a stay at home mother. Why is it they still haven’t learned hoe to speak english?
john combs
just like you can’t spell or type
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Get him john!
john combs
God bless the family and the woman who has their priorities straight. That is scary to the Dems to have folks that don’t need them or buy in to their perverted views of women, family and true freedom. The real war on women is the Feminism movement.
eddie47d
Ms Rosen directed her comment at the very wealthy Mrs Romney. Not necessarily anyone else. How many very wealthy people do you know who give a darn about other Americans and have walked in their shoes? I would say it’s those super rich who don’t have their priorities straight in what is happening in this country. Their frivolous greed and financial schemes destroyed our economy while they made money off of our losses. Considering that Mr Romney has supported both sides of every issue to garner votes I doubt if he represents very many Americans and is the one with the “perverted” view of hard working folks. He is the politicians politician and is also very slick and cunning.
http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH
“Ms Rosen directed her comment at the very wealthy Mrs Romney.”
Showing respect for Ms Rosen? Sounds more like class envy to me. It is!
samurai
Ah yes! The whine that libs always say when someone has it better than they do. Class envy and warfare. Classic liberal strategy to keep people divided. BTW, would you like some cheese to go alone with that whine Ed? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
You shouldn’t lump all the rich together as you did in your diatribe, eddie. There are many rich/sucessfull people who have great compassion and understanding for the less-fortunate, but not for the lazy, and the slothful. As the good book says; “if a man shall not work, he should not receive welfare”; i’m paraphrasing of course.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Excellent paraphraise Jay! Would someone please get eddie and the rest of these whining a$$ libs a pacifier or something PLEASE!!! WAAAAHHH!
4LoveOfCountry
@eddie47d: Enough of the class warfare already. Hill’s snide remarks were directed at all stay-at-home moms; she is a feminazi just lilke the other Hill.
Karolyn
So you’re against women working and making the same amount as men?
American Momma
I think he is saying that he is against the uber-Feminists who constantly attack and berate the women who choose to sacrifice and stay at home to raise their own children.Once upon a time I was one of them. College-educated and all. Then I had my own children. Thank God I woke up to reality. Now I raise not only my own kids, but most of their friends also. They practically live at our house bc their parents are never home. I promise you that when the parents aren’t home the children WILL look to someone else–hopefully someone you can trust to protect them and parent them as you would. We have to sacrifice a lot of things that other people think are “necessary” these days, but I wouldn’t change it for the world.
It irks me that these hard-core Feminists attack women like me with such gusto. They don’t even know me-my background, my beliefs, my education–yet they label me as “non-working” and “ignorant.” Where is the “tolerance” in that? I would argue that a lot of the things that they spew out towards stay-at-home moms could justifiably be considered hate speech.But we are not protected from them. How are they fighting for “equal rights” for women when they slam any woman who chooses to live her life in a way that is different from theirs?Isn’t the right to choose what to do with your own life a core part of their mantra?They are the ultimate hypocrites, and it is my very strong impression that they have done far more to harm women than they ever have to help them. Look at the horrible ways that women are publicly exploited these days, and how our young girls are openly bombarded with twisted messages about their bodies and their self worth as human beings.NEVER would have been acceptable before. They hate the distinction of being a woman so much that they have set out to destroy women. Newsflash to them–you were born without a penis, live with it. You are angry that you were born a woman, and you despise men because you cannot be a man. It is nothing but hate and bitterness, pure and simple. I pity them, to be honest. It must be miserable to hate yourself and everyone around you just because you want to be something different from what you are. Like the kid who whines because someone else has something that he thinks is better than what he has.Very sad, indeed.
Sirian
LAY IT ON American Mom, OUTSTANDING!!! The one on the receiving end has yet to toss up a counter, wonder why?. . .
JUKEBOX
Apparently Obama ia against it, because of the wage disparity in the White House.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
YOU GO American Momma!!! God BLESS you and yours!
louie1
You’ll say anything to create an argument, won’t you? Most people who have witnessed Mom’s working 2 and 3 jobs to support a family feel that only one would have been necessary if the woman’s wages were equal to the man’s if she was doing the same work. That’s the world I lived in so I know. You, on the other hand, just love to stir the pot and create dissension. Twit.
Karolyn
Aamerican Momma – We’ve come a long way, baby. So-called feminists may have had that attitude toward stay-at-home moms a while back, but that is no longer the case. It seems to me that it’s more that stay-at-home moms have the attitude and are uber-defensive.
vieteravet
Liberal trolls hit the ground running, okay maybe just mouthing off!
American Momma
Oh, sweet Karolyn. If that is the case, then why are we having this discussion at all -or did you not read the story and listen to dear Hilary’s idiotic words before jumping in to comment? There are a very large number of Feminists who feel the same way that she does. It is ludicrous to attempt to deny it because they prove that it is true every time they open their hate-spewing mouths. BTW- I am not being “defensive,” I am simply stating the facts as they are. I do not feel it necessary to defend being a real woman from those who wish to be men. I myself am very proud to be a woman, and I find feminist “women” laughable. In a very sad way. They tend to be extremely self-destructive people because they cannot “find” their “true” selves. Such repressive denial only exaccerbates their mental anguish–leading to the high-risk lifestyles that they tend to indulge in as they attempt to ease their “pain”.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
You go American Momma!!! God bless you and yours Darlin’! Karlolyn I’ve been bitin’ my lip tryin’ to be nice to you, but you need to ditch that robe, curlers, and fuzzy slippers and get a life!!!
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
Karolyn says: So you’re against women working and making the same amount as men?
No karolyn, we’re against femenazis who constantly redicule women who choose to stay home and raise their children. Unlike the liberal feminists, who have no regard for their children, and behave much like crocodiles.
samurai
Well said Jay. I guess that Karolyn hasn’t heard a saying about patriot women.
“One person with a belief is equal to a force of ninety nine who have only interests.”
John Stuart Mill 1806-1873
The patriotic women are the 1 with a belief and the 99 are the feminazi lib women. Care to try to prove me wrong Karolyn? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH
It’s only natural for Karolyn, a feminist herself, to take a comment like this out of context.
American Momma
Ooops! That may have just blown the theory that all of us stay-at-home moms are uneducated doormats. Sorry to burst your bubble, “baby.”
cawmun cents
Democrats vs. My Mom?
Better duck and run for cover jackasses…….haw!
My mammy dosent appreciate Democrats like she used to.
Samson killed a thousand men with the jawbone of a donkey…..hate to think what mammy could do with a biscuit tin and a rolling pin….lol!
-CC.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Me either cc! LOL!!!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
LOL!!! I hear ya cc!
B. Holmes
A half-breed, educated with affirmative action, mother like the one Mrs. Rosen describes, Socialist mentors, has no business being president of the bowling club. He has no sense of any culture, not even Kenyan. His talent? Reading a teleprompter, nothing more. He couldn’t even write the messages for the teleprompter.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
He can HOOP!!!
Hey You
That’s not what is needed in the Oval Office.
Karin Zoanelli
I respect women who are gainfully employed AND take care of her children and her household, in her spare time. who is really raising her kids, though?
My husband worked split shift, had I worked we would have never seen each other, except on Sundays. I stayed home, and raised my own and a few others. they knew morals, they understood giving up something to make life better, and they respected the choice we made. we still managed a college education for them. no freebees for us.
to denigrade a woman because she stays home with her children and is not “gainfully employed” shows a paucity of understanding one has to shake ones head over.
a woman who works pays another woman to raise her children, another woman to clean her house, do the shopping and cook. THAT’s how much a stay-at-home Mom is worth.
no wonder schools take over so much of what Mothers with a capital “M” used to do.
I set an example for our children – and they all followed my footsteps.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
It’s like Charlie Daniels said in his song “Long Haired Country Boy” Karin, “A poor girl wants to marry and a rich girl wants to flirt. A rich man goes to college and a poor man goes to work.”
Myra Zuckerman
President Obama said the woman’s comments were wrong and many Democrats called in to protest the comment. Many women on both sides know that to be a Mom is to work.
Nevertheless when Mrs Romney had breast cancer she had the best care possible and doesn’t know what it is to be in a position when you are denied coverage or told you have a pre-existing condition and can’t get coverage.
eddie47d
Many great comments today and all women (and men too) should be respected whether they work or stay home and take care of the kids. Bringing up kids is an awesome responsibility and blessing along with a few disappointments. Ms Rosen was making a point that Mrs Romney is out of tune with the average American woman and is very correct in her statement. Those with wealth only get a glimpse of those below them and have no clue of their struggles. When they do out comes the checkbook for one day a year to help someone and then back to their normal routine. Mr Romney gives wealth a bad name so can any of you say that Mrs Romney doesn’t fall far from the apple tree? Working moms still have to cook,change diapers,do the laundry,prepare for work,and so forth. It will be interesting to see if Mrs Romney ever had the working women’s hectic schedule or was it the luxuary of primping on most days.We know that most on this site cook ,garden and can their food at least that is what you say. You think Mrs Romney can relate to that?
http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay
eddie says: Ms Rosen was making a point that Mrs Romney is out of tune with the average American woman and is very correct in her statement. Those with wealth only get a glimpse of those below them and have no clue of their struggles. When they do out comes the checkbook for one day a year to help someone and then back to their normal routine. Mr Romney gives wealth a bad name so can any of you say that Mrs Romney doesn’t fall far from the apple tree? Working moms still have to cook,change diapers,do the laundry,prepare for work,and so forth. It will be interesting to see if Mrs Romney ever had the working women’s hectic schedule or was it the luxuary of primping on most days.
Hmm, i wonder if the first lady, Michelle Obama, would agree with you eddie, and may in fact, take objection to your statement. It will be interesting to see if Mrs. Obama ever had the working women’s hectic schedule or was it the luxury of primping on most days.
Most unfortunate, and for obvious reasons, that Ms. Rosen failed to point out that Mrs Obama is out of tune with the average American woman. That those with wealth only get a glimpse of those below them and have no clue of their struggles. When they do, out comes the checkbook for one day a year to help someone and then back to their normal routine. President Obama gives wealth a bad name so can any of you say that Mrs Obama doesn’t fall far from the apple tree?
Working moms still have to cook,change diapers,do the laundry,prepare for work,and so forth. It will be interesting to see if Mrs Obama ever had the working women’s hectic schedule, or was it the luxuary of primping on most days.
So you see eddie, it works both ways. Capish?
Hey You
It sounded more like a put-down that a try at pointing out the Ann is out of touch with the American women (whoever they are). May suggest that Rosen is much more out of touch?
LESNC
Maybe it was because
they planned ahead and did not wait until they were ill to apply for insurance. Could you apply for automobile insurance after you had an accident and expect them to pay.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Could you stand there and watch somebody die if you had the ability to save them?!!
http://naver samurai
That’s why you plan ahead for such things. BTW, what does insurance have to do with the topic? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Because Ann’s surviving breast cancer got brought in the rabbit chase samurai. A feat in itself!!!
http://naver samurai
Ah yes! Leave it to the libs to make something negative out of surviving breast cancer. What will these lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists do next? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Meteorlady
I got very sick when I was a child and spent two weeks in the hospital. My dad worked three jobs, one full time and two part time, to pay for the hospital and doctor bills. He never once thought it was someone elses responsibility to pay for what we owed for services rendered.
Because of that responsibility, I learned early to be prepared. I always had insurance and kept it current. I plan ahead and have a fund to cover out of pocket expenses. Sure I would have liked to have a new BMW or a bigger house, but hey…. I’m responsible and put away money for bad times or emergencies.
As for pre-existing – I’m familiar with a lot of people that CHOOSE not to pay for health insurance and then got sick. They now clamor for insurance and can’t get it. Why? They thought it was more fun to take vacations, buy cars, TVs and other status symbols and not they pay. During the health care debates I looked up the percentage – 52% of those that didn’t have insurance could afford it but refused to get it. The rest were either illegals or they were people that qualified for Medicaid.
For the poor there is Medicaid so I don’t get the point…..
http://none Claire
Meteorlady–Good points. We as taxpayers pick up the tab for the people that do not have health insurance. Like you said, a lot of people fritter away their money and are not prepared. However, the people that DO have health insurance are paying for the ones that don’t. Hence, the premiums keep raising every year. My husband’s supplement had increased every year since 2006. Same with mine.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
I remember as a child, when we got sick, we went to the doctor and dad paid the bill outta pocket and I’ll bet that acouple of ya have heard from your grandparents how the doctors used to make house calls and accept a chicken as payment. Boy those days are long gone now! Medical expences have become so artificially inflated that in order to pay for an accident or illness you must have insurance or face the threat of losing everything you own. And insurance companys don’t make fortunes insuring sick people, so the only ones who get it are the chosen and, or well to do. This isn’t health care, it’s extortion and social genicide!!! And what do ya see? All of ‘em, doctors, insurance execs, lawyers, all drivin’ Jags and Benzs, and smokin’ big fat Cuban cigars, and pointin’ the blame at each other!!! Laughin’all the way to the bank while poor people suffer!
http://aol bob robbins
What is ur dumb point???????????????????????????????
http://aol bob robbins
My response was for Myra, not u.
Karolyn
I agree. Everybody is attacking Obama for something he had nothing to do with. And, yes, I’m sure Mrs. Romney had plenty of help raising her kids. Her life cannot be compared to the average woman’s life.
Opal the Gem
“Care to cite some links to back up your assertions about” Mrs Romney’s help.
http://none Claire
Karolyn–to add fuel to the fire–seniors better make damn sure they have a supplement, or plenty of money stashed away. I have already posted that Bob’s dialysis costs for the month of January was well over $54,000.00. I have the summary from Blue Cross/Blue Shield. If he had lived, it would have been over $658,000.00 for one year.
JUKEBOX
Neither can His Imperial Kenyan Majesty and Michelle!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Being a little judgemental aren’t we Karlolyn?!! A little partisan! Would you’ve made a snide little remark like that about Michelle?!! Oh, sure you would of.
daniel
Karolyn get off the kool-aid. You apparently know absolutely nothing about Mormonism and the family. Furthermore yes it was Obama that had a thing to do with the attack on Mitt’s wife. If you were to check his campaign last you would find a pattern of his minions doing the low road attacks so that he could portray himself as above the fray. I would suggest you quit grasping at straws trying to defend what cannot be defended and Obama too.
Karolyn
Tom – I’m just on-subject here. It would seem pretty obvious to me that rich people have help with their kids, while middle class woman have to do it all. Nothing more, nothing less. Michelle Obama has her mother to help with the kids. Of course, there are more people to help them with everything, and I’m sure the Romneys have that as well.
Karolyn
daniel – Are you trying to tell me rich Mormons don’t have servants? Yes, I’m sure Marie Osmond did it all herself. Not!
john combs
Obama and his crowd have everything to do with those comments. Mrs.Romney did not start this crap. She got drug into this minding her own buisness. It sure is easy for lots of folks to hate on somebody and not have any idea who they really are or what they have been through in their lifetime. Rich or poor we all have the same maker.
Joan
I’m with you, John. What does it matter if you’re a rich stay at home mom; a rich working mom; a middle class or poor stay at home or working mom? In the end we all answer to the same Master.
http://naver samurai
I agree with Opal on this one. Care to cite some sources on this one Karolyn? Sook Young and I aren’t rich, but we do everything ourselves. No help. We even did it ourselves when I was only bringing home an E4′s paycheck in the army and Sook Young was staying home. Just because she is rich, how do you know she didn’t just stay home with the kids? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Yeah middle class women have to do it all because they’ve done run their husbands off with all of their excessive whining and nagging about not having all the things that they see on TV! Did you happen to see the size of last month’s Vogue magazine?! The thing looked like a phone book!!! You don’t suppose that it’s true what Tom T. Hall said in his country classic, “Old Dogs and Children and Watermelon Wine” about women do ya Karlolyn? That
y’all only think about yourselves when menfolk ain’t around?!! Yes i’m sure that grandma Robinson helps Michelle get the girls all packed up for whatever luxurious vacation destination they’re planning on jetting off to in Air Force One at for the next couple of months. I wonder if Michelle allows her to go?!
Just in case ya never heard it Karlolyn, enjoy!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
@Karolyn: Where do you get the idea that Ann Romney had “help” raising her boys or that she is anything other than “average”? Elitists tend to be liberals, after all.
vieteravet
My insurance didn’t drop me after esophogeal cancer (No way can I spell that). My wife has lupus. and she still has insurance.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
May God reach down and touch ya both with his miraculous healing touch vietervet!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
So are you jealous Myra?!!
Noodles
My mother stayed home and raised me and 4 other siblings. My Mother and Father agreed to sacrifice saying it was far more important for my Mother to be at home with us. We did without a lot of material things. We had a great amount of tender love and care and we did not miss a thing. God bless my wonderful parents. Ms. Rosen is a disgrace to all women and does not speak with any knowledge or sincerity. She should be ashamed, especially after making such a fool of herself by making that air-headed statement.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
No Noodles, SHE SHOULD BE FIRED! A lesbian woman wants to knock a stay at home mom, who, as if it was any of her (expletive deleted) business in the first place, had the luxury of having a husband who was weathy enough that she didn’t even have to think about work outside of the home, what a blessing!!! It sounds to me as if Mz. Rosen is a little jealous!
Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Thats exactly what’s wrong with these kids today, no parental oversight! Someone needs to be home when the kids get out of school, and I’m sorry ladies, but y’all have been hoodwinked! Women have always since the beginning of time took care of the home. Now I’ll admit that y’all have never gotten your just rewards for the MOST IMPORTANT job in the world, but is the rat race that fulfilling?! Being a homemaker is a FULL TIME job, and the pay sucks, It’s only worth it if it’s done outta LOVE!
Sirian
There once was a woman named Hilary
A woman of stout frame and shilling ability
A fountain of blabber – full of maddening clamor
Yet carries the bells of a shockingly prized heifer.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
There once was a fag from Ragoon
Who took a lesbian up to his room
And all that night, they had a terrible fight
Over who would do what, and to whom!
Sirian, R U OK MAN?!!
FreedomFighter
Loved the vid, the egg on E. Holders face when a white guy voted for him —– Priceless
A point made, and made well.
Laus Deo
Semper Fi
Bob Fritz
Back when it was possible for a man to earn enough to sustain his family, while his wife had the more important job of taking care of the children and teaching them; morality,honesty, respect for elders, the basic tools to get along with others, etc. Someone came up with the great idea that women are wasting their lives and need to go out into the world and earn money, and this money would make life soo much better for the family. In a few short years, the price of goods and services adjusted upward, and now if the mother did not go out to work, in most cases the family could not make ends meet. This lie of extra money, was the beginning of the downfall of the American family.
The love of money IS the root of all evil!
http://none Claire
Bob Fritz–I am inclined to agree.
paradigmshift
Watch “Aaron Russo Rockefeller” on you tube. Rockefeller told Aaron Russo about the (elite created) womens lib movement. To get the other half of the US population (at home moms) to pay taxes, and to indoctrinate their children at an earlier age.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
It was the Rockefeller Foundation itself that put out a campaign telling American women back in the early 1900′s that they were no longer happy being the glue that has held civilization together since the beginning of time paradigmshift! Just like Bob said, telling them that they were not living fulfilling lives being a homemaker and raising the family! One of my dad’s favorite sayings was that the two worst inventions that man’s ever come up with were the telephone and the TV, the TV tells women how bad they got it, and the telephone let’s ‘em share! I don’t know if he ever got to see a woman wearing a Bluetooth before he passed, but I can hear him now, “Finally got their wish come true, a telephone attatched to their head!!!” LOL! My Old Man!!! I miss him also, he was my Bud! But back to the Rockefeller Foundation, their sole intent was to bust up the American family unit, and as you can see, their sinister plan seems to be workin’ quite nicely!!! They’ve convinced women that they don’t want children till well past their NATURAL child bearing years, there’s no tellin’ what kinda side affects women are going to suffer years down the road from the contraceptives and other drugs and vaccinations they’re recieving these days! If it affects their ability to have children, then it affects us all as the human race!!! Well girls, so… How do ya like the RAT RACE?!!
Well said Bob. Though I am prepared for some lib to make a dumb comment to answer my post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Joan
I was a Depression-era baby. Times were really tough. I recall my dad working 2 jobs to pay the bills including medical bills. My mom stayed home and was a great cook, housekeeper and budget manager. People saved money to own needed material things. When WWII started and so many men went to war the women had to take over their jobs and jobs in the war plants. After the war alot of women stayed in the workforce. From then on more and more women joined the workforce. Then it became a thing to not save up to buy a car, furniture, house, etc. Today everyone seems to want everything brand new, whether they need it or not, which means both have to work to keep up with the Joneses. My husband was a cop and we had 4 children in the 60s. I was a stay at home mom, not because we had alot of money (we didn’t) but because I was brought up to believe that your children come first. Raising a family and taking care of the home is a 24 hour job and it’s not easy. My youngest was 12 years old when I took a part-time job. I arranged it that I would not leave in the morning until they left for school and I would be home when school let out. I admire any other woman who stays home to raise her children. There is nothing wrong with that. Nor is there anything wrong with women who want to work outside the home – as long as they and the politicians don’t look upon stay at home moms as pariahs.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
There is no more noble calling or important job in the world Joan! In my humble opinion of course.
http://none Claire
My Mother raised my two sisters and myself, totally. We were very poor and could not hire “help.” The wealthy people had a cook, a maid, a gardener, and a nanny. This was and is the way it is. Besides, my Mother stayed at home, she never went anywhere. We never had a babysitter, but it is a different world now. This woman that made the comments no doubt had plenty of babysitters. Therefore, who does raise the kids?
Michael J.
Claire,
Be proud, you are who you are because of the way you were raised. The woman making these remarks was probably raised by babysitters. My parents, both gone now, were married only once and to each other. They raised four children complete with discipline and caring that I am very thankful for. Todays children are lost, exposed to culture shock, single parents, and are thrown into an education system focused on molding ideological twits instead of providing usable life skills. Through no fault of their own, children are becoming Columbine strain misfits
http://none Claire
Michael J: I am proud–especially of my Mother. She worked so hard all her life.
She certainly did the best she could with what she had. I have so many memories about her and how she taught us. She passed in 1991 and I still think of her every day and wish I could be more like her in many ways. Hopefully I am.
Tom W.
Claire and Michael, you are both so right, we were raised in a totally different universe! Hard work was rewarded, the golden rule was enstilled in us from the time we were toddlers, we did things together as a family, sports figures and entertainers were people you would want your kids to aspire to, sure we had some problems and over the years those problems were brought out in the sunlight and dealt with! WE as a nation stjll are a work in progress.
What I think is funny is now that O has attacked the Catholics, and now MOTHERS! My grandmother (God rest her soul!) could defeat O in the upcoming election and the GOP is getting ready to nominate a man who in my humble opinion, doesn’t have a snowballs chance of defeating Barack!!!
Ben, YOU DA MAN!!! LOL! Keep up the GOOD work, my brother in arms!!!
Michael J.
Tom W,
A totally different universe, both then and now still. In my line of work, I am often in the homes of billionaires. Their children are strangers to them. While the nanny watches over the children, the father is off to the office and Mom is off to the tennis court or shopping. When the kids get older it’s off to college, never given the opportunity for quality time with family or even siblings. These are
for the most part selfish people whose children never benefit from the
building blocks that family provides.
Raised by my Mom, Not
My guess is she was raised by wolves or rabid cayotes. Would only be in keeping with Omamaite tribe.
Raised by my Mom, Not Wolves
Michael, you’re wrong – she was probably raised by either wolves or rabid bats certainly not human beings, you know like Nancy (Final Stages of Dementia, woof, Woof) Pelosi. That’s the birthing pattern of the Obamaite Muslim tribe. Hey, she’s every bit as noble as Bill Mar(ed). Liberals always operate on the high moral prlincipal that if you tell lies often enough to their socialist sheeple, it becomes the truth.
http://none Claire
Michael J is not wrong.
JUKEBOX
HILLARY rOSEN WAS PROBABLY RAISED BY THE “VILLAGE”.
EyesWideOPEN
“thrown into an education system focused on molding ideological twits instead of providing usable life skills. Through no fault of their own, children are becoming Columbine strain misfits”… (Michael J)…
Too True..!! When the emphasis strays from real education to focus on police action, metal detectors, atheism and parental blame, it’s function needs total revamping.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
R, R, & R!!!
Tom W.
Pray tha Sirian made it through the storms OK everybody, I Haven’t seen a post by him this morning yet!
http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9
4/16/12, Hello Mike, remember the days when dad went to work, mom managed the household & they owned a house, wanted for little, took vacations & may have owned 2 cars? Then came the NOW gang raising hell about being “equal.” Things were never the same ever since. What happened was sending more women out to work, earning more dollars to chase the same goods, resulted in the gradual decline in value so now you need the kids & cats & dogs all hustling a buck just to stay afloat.
http://naver samurai
Sook Young and I have raised 4 children in which 3 are grown up and on their own. Believe me, it was work for the both of us. We both worked and would come home, take care of the kids, cook dinner, clean the house, do the laundry, wash the dishes, play games with the kids, check their homework, break up fights and arguements, etc. So if that crazy lib woman thinks it isn’t work, then it is probably because she has no kids or she pays someone to look after them when she is gone. I guess she doesn’t know how to be a mother. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
P.S. Ann Romney, keep doing things your way. You are an inspiration.
eddie47d
You made a good point yourself but lost the message. Ms Rosen is fully aware of the struggles of a working woman and is on the side of those who have to balance work,home and family. I doubt if Mrs Romney takes care of her own home and doesn’t work. That makes her out of touch with the average American woman whether they work or stay at home. That is not disrespecting those who do stay at home but don’t have the money to hire nannies and other caretakers like she has done. So Ms Rosen is speaking about you and I also where both husband and wife had to work and still do everything else.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Hey samurai and sook, that is the way it supposed to be done on a Christian home. When a man and woman join together in HOLY Matrimony, they become ONE flesh and share in ALL things as one!!! Good and bad, it’s not below a husband to do the laundry or make the bed, and it’s not above the wife to pick up a hammer or cut the grass. I like Claire owe a big debt of gratatude to my mom who raised me and my sister pretty much on her own. I understand that there were unreconcilable differences between my parents and hold no ill feeling towards my dad, he could’ve done a better job, but I forgave him. I pray my son will forgive me my shortcomings!!! But my mom brought us up the best she could and then some and I (Even though she used to raise hell with me NON-STOP!) like Claire miss her very much!!! A girl said to me one time, “I’ll bet she used to make you go cut your own switch!”, I said, “No, that was my grandmother, she used to beat my a$$ with a piece of my Hot Wheels track!!!” OWWW! THANK GOD, AND THANK YOU MAMA!
Yip, you are a Number One on the subject Samurai. I too was raised by a caring Mother who had to work bust she did it while we were at school and when we got home she was there to meet us. Oh, there was times that we had to have a babysitter but that babysitter was either our Grandma Martin or one of our older Cousins.
And when it came time for my Tsuma and I to have our own children we were there for them. I worked at night so that I was there for them in the mornings until the left for school and then she was there for them when they got home.
MAY GOD WATCH OVER THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!
You can see how successful Communistic DEMONcrats were in their agenda.
Read attentively all goals. But here you have some of them:
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
Well “Fisherman” you sound like you have no idea about a woman staying at home being a good thing. If she does, when the kids come home from school they have someone that can nuture them, teach them, love them, etc., at home. Why would you want the kids to come home and basically be lacthkey kids? What Isaid about what Sook Young and I did on a daily basis, my mother did all those things and more. My parents divorced when I finished 2nd grade, so my mom had to pull double duty. She had to be the mother and the father. If a woman stays at home to raise kids, it is a lot of work. Just ask Sook Young, she’ll tell you it is. Thanks for the post Tom. Good one as always. Let’s keep up the good fight fellow patriots! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
P.S. Her is a source showing how the NOW don’t like stay at home women. Also watch the video that comes with it.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
eddie, how did I overlook your assenine post! Like Mz. Rosen represents the average middle class American mom!!! I see the class warfare crap has worked on the lemmings who post on this site! I thought I told you not to smoke any of that crap that Flushdouche is peddling!!!
http://naver samurai
OK Ed, mind telling me how a lesbo sets the example for the average working mom? Since her adopting children would be un ethical and immoral, subjecting the child to an immoral lifestyle, she cannot represent anything dealing with motherhood. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Warrior
Let’s see now.
Control of car companies – check
control of edumacation – check
control of healthcare – check
control of energy – check
control of banks – check
control of transportation -check
control of the value of currency – check
marginalizing of congress – check
marginalizing of the supreme court – check
marginalizing of the family – check
promoting class divide -check
all of this brought to you by non other than “progressives”.
Isn’t “utopia” a wonderful place!
JUKEBOX
You left out “Ditching the Constitution”.
John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)
You also left out “Restricting who can work on the Family Farm.”
http://PersonalLiberty Alondra
Warrior, Unfortunately it’s not UTOPIA anymore, but REALITY.
“Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying, 2 “Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and preach to it the message that I tell you.” 3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh (America) was an exceedingly great city (country) … And Jonah began … cry out and said, “Yet forty days (we have 6 month and 22 days), and Nineveh (America) shall be overthrown!” 5 So the people of Nineveh believed God … and cry mightily to God; yes, let every one turn from his evil way and from the violence that is in his hands. 9 Who can tell if God will turn and relent, and turn away from His fierce anger, so that we may not perish? 10 Then God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God relented from the disaster that He had said He would bring upon them, and He did not do it.” (Jonah 5:1-10)
“Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD” (Psalm 33:12) Our LORD is CHRIST!!!
I am inviting everyone who loves this country and everyone with the good conscience to “steadfastly pray” the next prayer every day: “When he is judged, let him be found guilty, and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few, and let another take his office.” (Psalm 109:7, 8) Amen.
GOD, please save America.
I invite you to listen song Rachem, which means Mercy. It based on the Daniel Prayer (Daniel9:15-19). He prayed for Jerusalem, we must pray for America. I hope Almighty God, our Heavenly Father will hear us. The song is on Hebrew.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
General Eisenhower warned us it is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead. He did this because he said in words to this effect: “Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened!” Recently, the UK debated whether to remove the Holocaust from its school curriculum because it ‘offends’ the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.
Mah Shalomkah Alondra!!! Thanks so much for the BEAUTIFUL videos!
In chapter 17 of the book of Luke, Jesus talking about when the signs of His coming start to appear, He warned to remember Lot’s wife! (Luke 17:32) What did she do? When told to flee the city of Sodom, they were given a certain warning by the angels. NOT TO LOOK BACK!!! (Gen. 19:17)
Why are all these things happening?! The natural diasters, the political and social upheaval, amorality, wars and rumors of war, all revolving around the REBIRTH of the nation of Israel and the reclaiming of Jerusalem by the Jewish people. (Luke 21:24) They’re not happening because of anything that mankind has or hasn’t done, THEY’RE HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO!!! It’s all part of the BOOK, and the BOOK MUST BE FULFILLED!
Is your lamp trimmed and BURNING?!! (Matt. 25:1-13) Because if you’re not LOOKING up (Luke 21:28), you SURELY to GOD must be BLIND!!! (II Cor. 4:3&4) Surely you don’t want to be TOLD to go hangout with the GOATS!!! (Matt. 25:31-46) Keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMING! He loves y’all and so do I!!!
nc
Warrior, Utopia, the USA, number 1 nation in the world, is a wonderful place except when it was interrupted by adminstrations like Hoover, crooked Nixon and george “daddy’s boy” bush who wrecked the economy and left it to Democrats to correct.
I have asked several times here for you “true conservatives” to name one “true consevative’ President and not one has been named, Even Reagan has been ‘disqualified’ as a true conservative becaue of his tax positions and creation of
record national debt and support of the unions! Which raises the question of “if we emerged from World War II as the number one nation in the world and have remained there for almost 70 years WITHOUT a true conservative leader being responsible for it , why do we need one now????Progressives and moderates have gotten us this far why do we need conservtive leadership?? Is there something higher or better than number one?? What nation would that be?? You conservatives need to quit your complaining and “dance with who brung ya”
samurai
SSDD, eh NC (No cajones)? Let’s not forget the lib track record shall we?
FDR: Higher spending, higher taxes, icreaesed size of government, lengthened the Great Depression, and sought to get us into WWII before 1941.
LBJ: Raided SS, increased size of government, war on poverty made poverty worse, raised taxes.
Carter: Increased spending, increased size of government, increased taxes, long lines at the pump, double diget inflation, high unemployment, and his brother committing treason.
Clinton: Increased spending, higher taxes, increased sized of government, attacked non-military targets to keep press out of his personal life, went into Bosnia, did not take out Osama (Though he had 3 chances to do so), let Americans be killed by terrorists without any responses, lessening of morals, saying adultery is OK, and being put back into his place by Mother Teresa. Let’s also not forget the lie about a surplus, global warming, and the economy being inflated by the housing bubble that burst.
Sheesh! Looks like the libs have nothing to talk about as far as accomplishments. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
truesoy
samurai;
What are you talking about?
It seems you are perennially misinformed on just about every subject, and that is your business. Ok, to each its own, I say. But what concerns me is that you could be basing your political decisions (at the voting booth, in particular) based on that faulty information of which it seems you’ve got plenty of. I’m honestly concerned.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
samurai
Wrong answer Truesoy! What I posted was some facts about certain lib presidents in response to the nonsense that NC posted. If you can’t understand that, then you are lost. Also, I notice you like coming after Jay, I, and other patriots. Could it be that you can’t handle the truth and you try to discredit us with lib spin, lies, rhetoric, and innuendo? Sorry son, but if you can’t handle what we tell you here, you won’t like the truth being told to you in the Bible and by God and Jesus. Your kind are a disgrace to this country and the other one you were born in. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
truesoy
samurai;
I have nothing against patriots, and I admire them for I’m one, I believe. However, to be a patriot you have to know why, and be it for the right reasons, and I think that in this you are a little confused.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
Hey You
These above comments evidently have degenerated into a partisan argument. May I suggest that everyone is correct?; all government figureheads are subjective (which equates to evil). We, collectively, have had the misfortune of being ruled by mostly sociopaths. That shouldn’t come as a surprise as powerful offices attract that 4% of the population who has near zero consciences.
Let’s forget the partisan bickering by realizing that the system by which so called “leaders” emerge is a system that promotes those who bribe to voting public. It almost always happens on the way to decline and fall. It’s like on a map with a “you are here” point. Well, we sure are “here” and it’s a slippery slope.
truesoy
Just one question:
Where were these ‘conservatives’ when President Ronald Reagan bailed out Chrysler to the tune of billions of dollars?
Oh, wait, I remember. They all were cheering!!!
…but if President Obama does it, he must be communist, right?
Sincerely,
Truesoy
Joan
Truesoy, the difference between Reagan bailing out Chrysler is that the government didn’t take over ownership of Chrysler as the Obama did GM. Big difference, yes??
http://naver samurai
Well said Joan. You have to excuse Truesoy for his spinning and outright lack of intelligence on the subjects at hand. You call yourself a patriot Truesoy? If you are a patriot, then I’m the Pope. You say I don’t know why I’m a patriot? Whet kind of less intelligent question is that? I’ve served this country for 20 years, voted in every election since 1984, and continue to spread the truth of our founding, teach the truth to students, and strive to have our government go by our Christian founding and the Constitution. You are what Jesus warned us about when he said “…send you out as lambs among wolves…” and “..they are wolves in sheep’s clothing…” If you are a patriot, then why do you never get our history right, use lib lies, rhetoric, and innuendo, are an atheist, and have no real idea about how this country? Sound like you are in dire need of a cranial rectumotomy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
P.S. You need love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.
truesoy
There you go again, proving once more your lack of knowledge about the foundation of our nation.
I know, or at least I’d like to believe that you mean well, but I do also understand that good intentions are not enough, nor the sole answer, for you also have to have the facts that are necessary to make intelligent decisions, and you are lacking in that department, thus causing more harm by your ‘well intended’ actions.
Please, put all that ‘hoopla’ aside and look at the facts.
Sincerely,
Truesoy
Joan
Truesoy – When and in what state were you born? Just curious.
http://naver samurai
Sheesh Truesoy (?), here we go again. Making yourself look foolish in front of everyone here. But I shall not go down that road, protect my reputation, and not take chances of being banned. So this coming from a person that does not post facts or cite sources? Ha, ha, ha, ha! I laught at your over inflated ego, less intelligent mind, and immature mentality. I continue to wipe the floor with you, but maybe this will help you to understand what people think about you and your ilk.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn;t so.”
Ronald Reagan
I’m sure an atheist and scientist can understand the meaning of this quote. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.
Joan
Hillary Rosen and her partner adopted twin girls. She and her partner split but who has the children? If she does, then who is raising them while she publicly berates stay at home moms. I wouldn’t want her doing P-R for me if I owned a company. She was hired by BP after the oil spill and look what happened to them. She’s a walking disaster.
http://PersonalLiberty Alondra
Rosen served as interim director for the LGBT organization Human Rights Campaign in 2004. As any homosexual she is not only sexually pervert but mentally as well. She does not have her own biological children. The adaption of children by homosexual couple MUST be prohibited.
http://naver samurai
Well said Joan and Alondra. Here is something I found about the libs definition of equality of men and women that fits into their beliefs.
“In order to build a great socialist society, it is of the utmost importance to arouse the broad masses of women to join in productive activity. Men and women must receive equal pay for equal work in production. Genuine equality between the sexes can only be realized in the process of the socialist transformation of society as a whole.”
Mao Tse Dong 1935
I guess this would mean everyone getting paid equally low wages and relying on the government for their daily bread. I guess that Obama bin Laden believes that in a socialist state everyone would be equal? He would be right about that, as their would be no such thing as a stay at home mom, for all women would be forced to work and have their children placed into socialist indoctrination camps (Daycare centers) sponsored by the socialist state. Obama bin Laden, Rosen the queer, and others are in dire need of having to make that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Joan
As I said in a previous comment – Obama and his minions (and Soros) are doing everything in their power to turn Americans against one another. This is all part of the Marxist agenda. There are much more serious problems for us to be worried and arguing about. Every day Obama signs another Executive Order and takes another part of our freedom away. We should be revolting against him and his Marxist cabinet instead of one another. I served my country in the USAF many years ago and I’ll be danged if I’m going to sit back and watch my country be flushed down the proverbial toilet. This is OUR country and we should be fighting back – those of us who have not been brainwashed, are brain dead or just plain blind and stupid.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Please tell me that she’s a lezbo Joan!!! Forgive me Jesus!
Joan
Yes she is, Tom.
Tom W.
Excellent point Alondra!!! And here’s your reason why, this angers me so bad that I have to stop for prayer!
I’m with you Tom. I checked out the site. Al i can say; sick sick people!!!
Marilyn
Well Claire – since mz. rozen is in a two-woman relationship, her kids have 2 inter-changeable mothers.
vieteravet
Yeah, they’re both ‘mothers’ alright!
http://naver samurai
Since both of these women are queers, they can never be mothers or good mothers. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
http://none Claire
Marilyn: Different strokes for different folks. I do not approve of homosexuality, but as in many issues, it seems it is the children that suffer because of so-called “responsible” adults. Children and animals are at the mercy of adults. In fact, the entire world is at the mercy of adult human beings. It is a shame that there are so many adults that do not conduct themselves with decency and honesty. A person has one life to live, it is their choice to conduct their lives however they want. I am not perfect by any means, and I am not being pious, I am merely stating what I believe.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
Ms. Romney could not carry my Mother’s bra — my Mom and Dad worked together and balanced a carreer and raise six kids, once we all were in school. Of course, we were raised to help out and took turns doing daily chores — like peeling the potatoes for dinner upon arriving home from school — and we had better not have to be told or we would not have anything to eat for dinner. Our siblings WOULD NOT be happy if we were late or forgot — no potatoes for dinner???