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The Obama Thugocracy

April 9, 2012 by  

The Obama Thugocracy
OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE PHOTO BY PETE SOUZA
President Barack Obama rose to office like a Mafioso don.

With his approval ratings below 50 percent as an election looms, Congress gridlocked over his economy-destroying budget proposal and the prospect that his signature piece of legislation — Obamacare — is likely to get thrown out as unConstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court, President Barack Obama and his minions have ratcheted up their tried and true modus operandi: thuggery.

This has long been common practice for Obama. His career was launched from the home of a convicted terrorist. His parents, friends and key influencers were socialists and communists. It is who he is.

Obama was first elected as a U.S. Senator from Illinois only after he and chief operative David Axelrod arranged to have the sealed divorce records of Obama’s opponents unsealed: first Democrat primary opponent Blair Hull’s, then Republican Jack Ryan’s.

Polls showed Hull enjoyed a healthy lead over Obama as late as one month before the primary. But then The Chicago Tribune — Alexrod’s former employer — began publishing stories accusing Hull of violent behavior in his marriage and claiming that an ex-wife had sought a protective order during their divorce. Finally, Hull and his ex-wife agreed to have the records unsealed; and another ex-wife, their children and a number of Hull’s acquaintances denied Hull was violent. But Hull’s poll numbers began to tank and Obama won the primary.

In the general election Obama faced Jack Ryan, husband of actress Jeri Ryan. During a child custody dispute some years prior to the election, Jeri Ryan had claimed that Jack Ryan made her accompany him to swingers clubs in New York and Paris. Axelrod obtained “leaked” copies of the couple’s Chicago divorce records and then The Tribune sent lawyers to California to request the sealed child custody case records be unsealed. Over the objections of both Ryans, the judge released the records. Shortly thereafter, Jack Ryan withdrew from the race.

During the 2008 Democrat Presidential primary, Obama operatives intimidated Hillary Clinton supporters and engaged in improper and possibly illegal activities to win the nomination, according to a former Clinton campaign worker. Michelle Thomas told WND that she received death threats and was called a racist for opposing Obama. She also accused the Obama campaign of stealing caucuses by throwing away votes and intimidating people trying to enter the caucus locations.

Thomas also believes the Obama campaign is behind the death of Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney, who was shot in his office days before the Democratic National Convention by Timothy D. Johnson, who was then killed by police after a car chase. The day before he was shot, Gwatney and Thomas had agreed that Gwatney would find a superdelegate from the Arkansas delegation to introduce a petition to have Clinton’s name placed in nomination for President.

Another Clinton supporter Thomas met with about introducing the petition, Stephanie Tubbs Jones, died mysteriously the next week.

“We found it quite a coincidence that Bill Gwatney was killed the day after we talked with him,” Thomas told WND. “And just a few days later that Tubbs Jones died suddenly of an aneurysm, after she had agreed to introduce our petition.”

Hollywood film producer Bettina Viviano told WND that she heard Bill Clinton say on a conference call during the 2008 primary that he believed Obama was ineligible to be President, and that he was prepared to go public with the information until Gwatney was murdered.

According to Viviano, a campaign staffer who was close to Hillary Clinton said Bill Clinton received a message after Gwatney’s death: “Shut up, Bill, or you’re next.” But Clinton, who was a friend of Gwatney’s, intended to speak out anyway until he received another message: “OK, it’s your daughter, now, we’ll go after.”

After receiving the threats directed toward Chelsea Clinton, Bill Clinton never said anything else about it, Viviano told WND.

The Obama Administration used thuggery to defeat a Texas bill that would have kicked the Transportation Security Administration out of the State’s airports,  ignored a judge’s order over offshore oil drilling permits and used intimidation to call the media off the story regarding Obama’s forged birth certificate and Selective Service registration form.

The Obama Justice Department is also reportedly set to sue Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz. Arpaio is investigating whether Obama’s birth certificate and Selective Service registration are forgeries and is also trying to find other missing Obama documents that would prove whether Obama is a U.S. citizen.

Obama’s comments on the Trayvon Martin shooting were designed to inflame an already volatile incident that already had race hucksters stoking a racial fire. His comments had the intended effect. Since then, there have been several incidents reported of blacks attacking whites in the name of Martin.

Now, with his freedom- and America-destroying Marxist agenda getting pushback from an awakening American populace, Obama is at it again. He’s taking on the Supreme Court.

During a press conference last week at the White House, Obama said:

We are confident that this will be over – that this will be upheld. I’m confident this will be upheld because it should be upheld. Again, that’s not just my opinion. That’s the opinion of a whole lot of constitutional law professors, academics and judges… Ultimately, I’m confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress. I guess I would remind conservative commentators that for years what we’ve heard is the biggest problem on the bench is judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint. For an unelected group of people to somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law is a good example of that, and I’m pretty sure this court will recognize that and not take that step… With respect to health care, I actually continue to be confident that the Supreme Court will uphold the law. The reason is, in accordance to precedent out there, it’s constitutional.

Obama is channeling his inner FDR. As President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt sought — with some success — to intimidate the Supreme Court after it began striking down sections of the New Deal by threatening to pack the court with more justices who would be favorable to New Deal legislation.

New Deal proponents accused the court of being obstructionist and political. That’s essentially Obama’s argument. He may also be laying the groundwork to ignore the court’s order. It wouldn’t be first time the Obama Administration had ignored a court’s order, and it wouldn’t be the first time a President had done so.

In 1861, President Abraham Lincoln ignored an opinion by Chief Justice Roger Taney that Lincoln had no lawful power to suspend habeas corpus. So if Obama does ignore the Supreme Court, he’ll be channeling his inner Lincoln.

But even more troubling is that in saying that the Supreme Court’s striking down of Obamacare would be unprecedented, Obama is just lying. It’s a wonder his pants aren’t on fire.

As a so-called “Constitutional scholar,” Obama has to know that the court has overturned laws passed by “a democratically elected Congress” 165 times (click here and see page 201). And it doesn’t matter whether the law was passed “by a strong majority” (although only in Obama’s mind is 219-212 partisan vote a strong majority), that doesn’t exempt it from judicial review.

“That the Supreme Court would declare as unconstitutional congressional ‘laws’ which illegally violated the Constitution was one of the benefits of the Constitution, which the Constitution’s advocates used to help convince the People to ratify the Constitution,” writes David Kopel in The Volokh Conspiracy. “In Federalist 78, Alexander Hamilton explained why unconstitutional actions of Congress are not real laws, and why the judiciary has a duty to say so… Because Hamilton was the foremost ‘big government’ advocate of his time, it is especially notable that he was a leading advocate for judicial review of whether any part of the federal government had exceeded its delegated powers.”

Obama’s actions make clear the reasons the Founding Fathers inserted the phrase “natural-born citizen” into the Constitutional requirements for President. They wanted a President who was loyal to “these United States” and the Constitution.

But Obama sees the Constitution and the rule of law as impediments to his Marxist, America-destroying agenda. He rose to the office like a Mafioso don. His political career was born in the home of convicted terrorist Bill Ayers (Obama’s mentor who also wrote Obama’s “biography” and says he wakes up every morning thinking he’s going to end capitalism and goes to bed every evening disappointed that he didn’t). Obama was fed from the pulpit of the racist preacher Jeremiah Wright. And rose to prominence with the help of a complicit — even sycophantic — mainstream media, with which he now enjoys a carrot-and-stick relationship.

If he came to power like a don, it should come as no surprise he is governing (or ruling, according to Valerie Jarrett) like one as well.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • wt

    1. You know there are two kinds of Republicans: The rich, fat cats who will do anything for a buck, fire employees right before retirement on trumped up charges or none; trash the environment to save on processing waste properly, trick customers, fees, small print, using robo telephone, transferring to oblivion (This is Peggy how I help you? Goodbye); running ponzi schemes; buying Congressional influence (Abscam0; robbing investors (Enron, Madoff); colluding and price fixing (oil companies);
    Second type: Red necks, especially the South who is the lap dogs for the above mentioned fat cats. Those who when the boss stops quickly their noses are broken. The ones who are happy with their trailer, guns, Confederate or American flag, [pickup and their sister as a date, who are mesmerized with Fox News and the blonds on it showing leg and breasts (that’s so if they cannot understand anything said they can at least look at the babes. Every opposition to a cheating CEO is called “godless commies” or “Nazis” or “thugs.” Remember, Satan is attacking America. Gays are after you kids (but it is ok for Catholic priests to have sex with their kids) no uproar there. Oh, and anyone with a high school diploma and a smidgen of college is an elitist, pointy headed liberal. Who unlike Palin can read a newspaper.
    Happy lap dogs, happy to be insulted by the Tea Party darling, Palin as nothing more than Joe Six-packs and Camel smokers. Talk about dumb lapdogs. Surely the world is flat and Rush Limbaugh knows more than the world’s scientists regarding weather patterns, given Rush may had a GED education.

    • guest

      How about including the democrats in your post they are just as bad if not worse

    • Brad

      wt,

      a repost of your propoganda doen’t make you look good…

    • DaveH

      You know, wt, there are two kinds of Liberals — Dumb and Dumber.

      If Liberal ideas were indeed correct, people would adopt them voluntarily without the Force of Big Government. But they aren’t, so the Liberal Leaders Force them on the rest of us.

      • MAP

        Great post DaveH! Dead on.

      • eddie47d

        Was Conservative slavery kept entrenched for centuries because they were so wise?Those Conservatives can get you to believe anything even when they own you.

      • Foss

        You believe that because your definition of liberal comes from the right wing pundits. You think you know what the word liberal means, but you have been misguided. The word liberal does not mean the same thing to me and millions of Americans as it means to you. Open your mind to other people’s point of view and you will find that are not so dumb. They probably agree with you on many issues, but lables like liberal and conservative have become a communication barrier.

    • Jeff

      Don’t forget that Rush had a chemistry set when he was 8, so he knew about chemistry long before these fancy scientists with their degrees and stuff. Plus, Rush takes the temperature of his ass, which encompasses a good portion of the Earth’s surface, daily and guess what? It’s not warming. That’s all the proof you need on AM radio.

    • George E

      wt,

      Your comments are disgusting. It’s nice to know that liberals like you would never cast insults to those you don’t agree with like those “rich, red-necked” Republicans” you refer to. Isn’t diversity a key liberal initiative? Doesn’t that include ideas as well as skin color? Sure, right up to the point where they don’t agree with your ideas or thoughts. Get a life…………

  • wt

    You know there are two kinds of Republicans: The rich, fat cats who will do anything for a buck, fire employees right before retirement on trumped up charges or none; trash the environment to save on processing waste properly, trick customers, feess, small print, using robo telephone, transferring to oblivion (This is Peggy how I help you? Goodbye); running ponzi schemes; buying Congressional influence (Abscam0; robbing investors (Enron, Madoff); colluding and price fixing (oil companies);

    Second type: Red necks, especially the South who are the lap dogs for the above mentioned fat cats. Those who when the boss stops quickly their noses are broken. The ones who are happy with their trailer, guns, Condfederate or American flag, [pickup and their sister as a date, who are mesmerized with Fox News and the blonds on it shwing leg and breasts (that’s so if they cannot understand anything said they can at least look at the babes. Every opposition to a cheating CEO is called “godless commies” or “nazis” or “thugs.” Remember, Satan is attacking America. Gays are after you kids (but it is ok for Catholic priests to have sex with their kids) no uproar there. Oh, and anyone with a high school diploma and a smidgen of college is an elitist, pointy headed liberal. Who unlike Palin can read a newspaper.

    Happy lap dogs, happy to be insulted by the Tea Party darling, Palin as nothing more than Joe Sixpacks and Camel smokers. Talk about dumb lapdogs. Surely the world is flat and Rush Limbaugh knows more than the world’s scientists regarding weather patterns, given Rush may had a GED education.

    • Katey

      Your thinking is exactly what put this man in the taxpayer’s Whitehouse. Idiot!!! For the first time in 40 years of voting, I’m so afraid of what’s happening in my Country. However, now being a Republican Conservative (was a Democrap), I know I willI just love to drink dirty water; breath dirty air; look forward to living a Socialistic country; and watch my taxes go to lazy Obama patriots. Open your eyes for God’s sake. Use your brain for a change – unless it’s too late and it’s overly washed. And as for the Tea Party, how many of their events have you attended?? You might just learn something. Unless you a member of the SEIU or UAW. Then there is just no hope for you.

    • DaveH

      Are we still talking about the Homogenic Global Warming Hoax? I thought that horse was flogged to death long ago.
      Scientists? Sure, wt, whatever you say. For those who haven’t yet awakened to the Hoax:
      http://climatedepot.com/

  • http://w11.zetaboards.com/WiolawaPressForum/forum/3076016/ paul kwiatkowski kasper

    Illegals have more rights…. Hmmmm I wonder why

    • eddie47d

      If that were true why don’t you become one.

  • Lillie

    Why don’t you all grow up if you paid the attention to the issues instead of all this BS going on and checking out the real facts and getting involved in whats happening to our country
    this would be a better place.
    Since you don’t really have any ideas you keeping going back to all this stuff.
    Nothing about the economy, jobs, healthcare, debt, just guns, women health,is all you talk about every election.
    You try and use God in everthing you do but God doesn’t represent or even approve of what you do.
    A lot of it is the actions of the devil.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Tell us why you are posting on this site since we don’t have your vision of Utopia?

      • Norm

        Nor do we have your views of utopia. Are you a US citizen by the way?

  • Louis Lemieux

    I still can see Bush’s face trying to cope with the sudden fall of the economy at the end of his presidency. In his first term Obama was able to reduce, finally stop and reverse that fall which was one of the worse in History. Now Mitt Romney will try and take over the job and take credit later for all the work Obama did.

    • Sirian

      You must be smoking some really good stuff LL.

      • Louis Lemieux

        Sirian, people who don’t have good arguments for their convictions talk the way you do.

      • Brad

        Sorry Louis,

        Sirian make perfect sense; what happened with our economy was a perfect storm that took years to develop and finally played out in 2007. What you and the rest on the left neglect to acknowledge, the Bush admin tried to stave off the developing ecnomic downturn which engulfed the entire nation and other countries. Wasn’t it the left that stopped financial reform in 03, 05 and 07 but when Ohmama took over the RATS form of financial reform was passed. His HCR act, taking over 1/6th of the US economy, please start barking up another tree because those on the left as the right have the same uninsured that welch off uncle sugar. What wasn’t presented in HCR, real cost cutting measures that would have helped all average American’s; i.e. allow insurers to cross state lines, allow tort reform and that’s just the tip of the spear. So what was the real reason our economy fell apart again was, I didn’t think you would answer that question. Good day sir.

      • DaveH

        Obama reversed the fall, Louis?
        Non-farm Employment in January 2009 — 133561000
        Non-farm Employment in January 2012 — 132821000
        That’s 740,000 fewer people employed now then when Obama took office.
        How much did Government spend to accomplish that wonderful feat?
        Federal Government Spending in 2008 — $2982 Billion
        Federal Government Spending in 2011 — $3603 Billion
        That’s $621 Billion more spending to give us 740,000 fewer jobs. What a deal!

      • DaveH

        People should also be aware of this fact:
        http://mises.org/content/nofed/chart.aspx?series=TMS

        When the money supply increases it results in more dollars chasing fewer goods and thus higher dollar prices for the goods and services we buy. Various factors — increased productivity, banks sitting on the new money, lower employment due to recession — act to inhibit the near-term price increases, but eventually we will see massive increases in the prices of our goods and services.
        The ironic thing is that the big inflation might happen after a new Conservative president such as Ron Paul gets elected, in which case the Media Propagandists will likely convince the ignorant masses that it was Ron Paul’s fault.
        The Leaders and their supporting Cronies have the odds stacked in their favor, which is why Freedom is so scarce in today’s world. Our only chance is for the citizens to become educated. But they will have to do it on their own, because the MSM and the Public Propaganda Schools sure aren’t going to do it for them.

      • Louis Lemieux

        Dave H, you should take into consideration that the US has more workers in 2012 than it did in 2009 due to population growth. ☼

      • Louis Lemieux

        Dave H, if the past is a clue as to where were heading with our federal debt:
        1950 USfederal debt= 80% of GDP.
        1960=46%of GDP. The economy grew, so the ratio of debt to GDP fell, and everything worked out fiscally.

      • Brad

        Louis,

        All I have to say 2012 Gross Debt = 103% of GDP doesn’t look good for the US, wouldn’t you say so.

    • Maggiemoo

      Wow…..Louis, you have just proven to us that you do not live in the real world! WAKE UP!!!!!

      • Louis Lemieux

        Maybe I’m better informed than you are. Don’t we all have a left and right eye to determine how to proceed forward? It’s by consciously making an effort to understand those who do not think the same way we do that we can become a better citizen and move the country forward. Why do you think I’m on this site?!

      • DaveH

        I think you’re on this site, Louis, to spread your Liberal misinformation.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Louis L, you are on this site because you were told to.

      • Brad

        Louis,

        Your on this site to try and brainwash us into believing the lefts proganda, hope and change and believe you me, your not the smartest person nor am I, atleast I take an objective view and make my decisions basing the pro’s and con’s. Right now Ohmama is a conman and he has you hook line and sinker.

      • Louis Lemieux

        Dave,

        I think you’re quite an intelligent guy. Who knows? We both could be mistaken!☼

    • Flashy

      Difficult to argue the job growth stats showing after the first few months reeling from Bush IIs million a month job losses. But these guys will.

      What they can’t escape are the facts. Mediun income for the Middle Class fell during Reagan and Bush II. It grew under Clinton, and has stayed even during Pres. Obama as he dealt with the worst recession since the 1929 Depression. What is impressive is that after taking the hit of almost 3 million jobs lost in his first few months as Republican economics were still in effect, this administration has now added a positive number. During a very severe recession.

      The TARP II bank bailout has been paid back and starting this month, TARP I bank bailout funds will show a profit on payback (interest payments).

      Dependency of oil imports is below 50% for the first time in decades. Refined petroleum products is one of the largest export sectors.

      Even as our largest trading partner outside of Canada, the EU, staggers under its economic mess, the trade deficit increased in January mainly due to higher oil prices.

      Basic fact. When president Obama came to office, he had two choices. The one option, pushed by the GOP, was the one which the EU adopted. Fiscal austerity. it’s been three years and Europe has teetered on the edge the entire time with the social discontent and mood now affecting the entire continent. You want to know where we’d be if we had followed the GOP mantra since 2008? Look at Europe.

      But then…all the positive data has been on Pres. Obama’s watch. So therefore it’s bad. Correct?

      • George E

        Flashy,

        This has been the most anemic recovery since the great depression. Job growth has been much slower than under past recoveries. Even so, I’d cut Obama some slack on this if I hadn’t observed his drive to push uneconomical “green” initiatives while shutting down or delaying much of our fossil fuels industry, not to mention even hampered farming in some parts of the country. So, it’s very obvious to me that Obama’s socialist policies are hurting economic growth while running up government debt. Any real job and economic growth we’ve gotten has been inspite of Obama, not because of Obama.

        And, as far as Obama’s super efforts to stimulate domestic drilling and production, that’s just spin. His departments have done much to slow down and discredit our fossil fuels production since he’s been in office. The production we’re getting now is production on private lands which the EPA hasn’t been able to stop yet, or from wells that were drilled before he became President. Some of us can see what’s really going on, so that “spin” won’t work here.

      • Flashy

        George…i believe “This has been the most anemic recovery since the great depression. Job growth has been much slower than under past recoveries.” is incorrect. The ’01 recovery and the ’83 recovery were slower and weaker.

      • DaveH

        Non-farm Employment in January 2009 — 133561000
        Non-farm Employment in January 2012 — 132821000
        That’s 740,000 fewer people employed now then when Obama took office.
        How much did Government spend to accomplish that wonderful feat?
        Federal Government Spending in 2008 — $2982 Billion
        Federal Government Spending in 2011 — $3603 Billion
        That’s $621 Billion more spending to give us 740,000 fewer jobs. What a deal!

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Flashy, I’ll cut Obama some slack here and say that he inherited a real mess. But, this economy is like a supertanker on the ocean under full steam and it’s one that takes time to respond to inputs and the things that Obama has done will take some time to manifest themselves. A supertanker can’t stop on a dime and it can’t turn hard ninety degree corners either so what’s happening in this economy now can not be attributed entirely to what Obama has done. Pumping trillions of worthless dollars into the economy will only harm it and not help it but the real effects of his stupid actions will manifest themselves in the next administration.

    • George E

      Louis,

      There are many who think the “medicine will prove to be worse than the illness” when all is said and done. That’s a debate which will go on for a long time. Nevertheless, if Obama would actually start to move toward a balanced budget, most folks would probably give him a pass on his budget busting spending for the past 3 years. The problem is he hasn’t, and doesn’t make any serious effort to move in that direction. He doesn’t even scold the Senate for not passing a budget for the past 3 years. This country is sliding into financial hell and Obama and the Democratic led Senate are leading us there instead of leading us out of this mess. So much for Obama’s masterful way of stopping the economic recession from free-falling. If this madness doesn’t stop soon, our economy will really fall into a deep recession/depression from all the debt our government has accumulated. Will we applaud Obama’s efforts then?

    • Doc Sarvis

      Correct assessment Louis Lemieux.

    • http://google rose

      What a laugh

  • John R. Howell

    I fear that the puppeteers will structure food riots this summer and fall, which will give
    Obama the excuse he wants to impose martial law, suspend the constitution, confiscate everybody’s guns, and declare himself president for life. A new Dark Ages is already upon us. John R. Howell

    • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

      John R. Howell, if Obama does declare martial law he’ll only do it for the show as he doesn’t need to because we are still under it from Lincoln’s days. Does the fact that we currently exist in a state of martial law really mean anything to most of us? No, too many are to ignorant to understand the importance of this. The final test of this was during the confusing days after 9-11 when all sorts of “preventative measures” were put into place to guard against further terrorist actions on US soil. Was martial law declared by Bush during that time and if it was did he ever repeal it? A POTUS can declare martial law and it takes a POTUS to repeal it. I was too busy working at that time and might have missed the Declaration of Martial Law but if it had been done surely it would have made front line news.

  • Phyllis in Tx

    We are slowly letting it happen to us, the law to arrest us as American citizens and have no trials, just be taken away forever. Why don’t we do something about that? When it happens what will we say. “I don’t believe it!” Obama has always been a thug most of us knew it in 2008! Three kinds of people in the world 1. Those that make things happen….2. Those that watch things happen…………..3. And those that say “what happened?”

    • rhcrest

      The Germans had the same sense of denial as they watched Hitler do the things he did. The Jews still had no comprehnsion of why they were being loaded up into the box cars. There were people sounding the warning bells about Hitler but they were riduculed and ignored etc just like the Obots you see here on the comments page. People seem to forget that Hitler was elected just like Obama. And he didn’t start off loading people into ovens. He did things little by little. Sound familiar?

      • wt

        Hhahahahahahahahahhaa…talk about uneducated.

        Obama is hitler?

        Yeah what is it he has done that would make you say that? Oh, he tried to get healthcare for all folkls. Guess what, I’m guessing you have no healthcare yourself. I see lots of red necks come i the ER with no money or policies, all the while talking against Obamacare.

      • Louis Lemieux

        When Germany failed to make a foreign debt payment in 1923, 40,000 French and Belgian troops invaded. To appease its creditors, the German government printed more money. It issued 17 trillion marks in 1923 (compared to 1 trillion in 1922). By August 1923, a dollar was worth 620,000 marks. By early November 1923, hyperinflation in Germany had caused the exchange rate hit 630 billion to one. With all the problems the Germans had, it was easy enough for Hitler to use the election process itself in order to do away with elections. The opposition was way too weak to stop him. Anyone who believes the US to be in a similar situation today doesn’t understand History too well.

      • rhcrest

        Mr. Lemiuex, what the heck do you think Obama is doing now? You don’t think with all the debt he has created and all the money being printed that hyperinflation is on its way? It appears you don’t understand current events too well.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jturbine69 Jim Tobin

        Sheeple dont think for themselves and go with the flow just like whats happening now.

      • eddie47d

        If there are going to be any ovens Rhcrest (I don’t believe there will be) they will be endorsed by the extreme right to annihilate what they perceive as undesirables.You know exactly who would be on that list and so do I.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Once again eddie misses the whole point…whose the only one really thinking of ovens here? eddie!

    • Flashy

      Ummmm..there were more than a few Americans “arrested”, detained without trial, refused counsel, and never had the usual “legal niceties” allowed during Bush II’s regime. (note: the “legal niceties’ is from the regime, I merely repeat it here).

      Did you cry up then?

      In this administration, I know of no one who has been detained and denied the Rights afford in the usual and customary criminal case. If so, I am certain follow up posts will be enlightening.

      • DocVenture

        True, Flashy…including the New Black Panthers that threatened voters at a Pennsylvania polling place. You Obownow apologists are all the same. You refuse to see the corruption right in front of your face, you’d rather deflect it off onto someone else. Grow up!

      • eddie47d

        No one was intimidated at that Philadelphia polling place or turned away. There has to be an action (proof) before you can make a claim against someone.Being someplace doesn’t automatically make a person guilty and something has to be said or a worded sign shown to prove intentions. Heck we could say anyone with a concealed weapon on him could be threat to those around him and must be arrested. You need a higher degree of evidence than assumptions to make an actual arrest.

      • DaveH

        Typical ignorant Flashman question — “Did you cry up then?”.
        Even if somebody didn’t, is it a problem for people to wake up and change, Flashman?

    • rhcrest

      How about the NDAA which suspends habeus corpus? Or is that ok with you? And by the way, thank you for proving my point beautifully.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jturbine69 Jim Tobin

        We’re screwed if some things dont change real quick.

      • Flashy

        Are you referring to the NDAA which has been signed by several past presidents ? i believe including Reagan?

      • rhcrest

        I am referring to what Obama signed into law in December that suspends habeus corpus, and it was signed by him, not President Reagan. The only other POTUS that did this was Lincoln. I just researched it to confirm on wikepedia.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        Lincoln declared martial law which he had to do in order to invade the South militarily and to my knowledge it was never repealed by a presidential declaration to that effect hence we are still under martial law with no legal remedies.

        Another point to consider is the one that was brought up about a POTUS simply ignoring the Supreme Court and Obama and his muscle men will no doubt do the same. The only way that Obama would cow tow to the Supreme Court is if he feared a reaction from the people if he didn’t. Does Obama respect let alone fear the people of this country? I doubt it.

      • Flashy

        RH…Pres. Obama signed the one Exec Order stating that people detained as terrorists…i.e. Gitmo prisoners, had a Right of Habeus Corpus. I am unaware of any other Exec Order he may have signed which would diminish HC.

        The NDAA which he had to sign in january included detention language at the insistence of the GOP…and if Obama had veto’d the legislation the Military would have been cut off for such minor items as paychecks, health care, etc.

        What he did do was sign a statement of No Action which he said he did not consider the provision for suspending Habeus Corpus to be legitimiate and he would not recognize it.

        So what are you referring to?

    • rhcrest

      Oh and by the way wt, healthcare was one of the first things Hitler got control of. Ever hear of the t-4 system? Good lord you are ignorant

      • eddie47d

        There are sections of the Patriot Act that should be repealed if we can find Congress persons with enough courage to do so. The same with section 1021 of NDAA. Obama doesn’t get any brownie points for allowing that to stand and neither does any other member of Congress and that includes the majority of Republicans.

  • Randall Lechner

    When the king of England threatened the lives of our forefathers, their families, wealth, plantations and all they owned if they didn’t bow down and serve him….they believed that FREEDOM was far more important then slavery. They indeed defied his threat, fought for our freedom and lost life, families, plantations, wealth and everything they earned….just so WE could live FREE from tyranny. Yet today’s individuals bow down to O bomb A’s treats from his KGB army and long list of murders, Will we ever stand up against communism or is it too late? Just how many communist are in our congress?

    • Carl Manning

      “Just how many communists are in our congress?”

      I have often asked that question myself. I would also love to know what were in those FBI files Hillary and Bill were using illegally as blackmail against Congressmen and Senators, especially of the GOP variety. Hillary and Bill and Obama were/are all KGB spies. That’s the untold story up until now. Prepare to have your mind blown wide open when this former KGB intelligence officer and sniper hitman, Mikhail Kryzhanovsky, reveals what he has known for the past 30 years as a former KGB intelligence officer, former CIA intelligence officer, and now American patriot…

      http://www.pooler-georgia-homepage.com/mikhail-kryzhanovsky.html

  • Insurgent

    The price America continues to pay for slavery.
    The price America is paying for allowing illegals in the US.
    The price America is paying for gangsta politics.
    The price America is paying for a Muslim in the White House.
    The price America is paying for asking a BOY to do a man’s job.

    So how is this hopey, changey thingy working for you?

    • Patte B

      it’s not working but I didn’t vote for him…I saw through the facade…

    • DocVenture

      Ditto. I voted for the American war hero.

      • wt

        Now you8 can vote for a Mexican Morman cultist whose three sons are military cowards

      • Insurgent

        WT——————————————-anyone is better than your Kenyan!!!!

      • George E

        wt,

        Obviously, the left doesn’t care about character, morality, integrity, or experience or they wouldn’t have supported Obama or Clinton. So, don’t start denigrating Romney’s character on that basis. These are values the right cares about. If Romney has problems in this regard, the right will take care of it, not the left. Stick with policies. Obama’s a socialist that wants big inefficient government programs that will tax us to death and criminalize our day-to-day lives. Obama is anti-free enterprise and is choking our economy to death with his regulations and other constraints. Romney has a record of being pro-business, even if he has been too accepting of big government as well. However, Romney can’t be as bad as Obama in that respect, and probably better, I’d bet. Regardless, there’s little doubt Romney will do a better job than Obama helping our businesses and our economy grow again. Obama hasn’t got a clue how to do this, or he is intentionally trying to destroy the American economy if you consider what he has done, and is still doing.

      • eddie47d

        After a devastated economy Obama did well under the circumstances in getting us back on track. Obama will be judged on his successes and his failures but hopefully we will never go back to giving big business a free reign in harming our economy and world wide credibility again.

      • DaveH

        And therein lies our problem, Doc. McCain (my state Senator) would have continued to grow Government, but more slowly, less perceptively. Our Government would have grown ever-larger but there’s a good chance people wouldn’t have awakened to that fact as Obama has awakened them.
        Never before have I witnessed so many people actually learning about the wisdom of the Constitution that our Founders tried to protect us with. Unfortunately, Freedom takes effort and our Ancestors didn’t make the effort to prevent the Constitution from being trampled by those who seek Power over our lives, like Obama, like Bush, like Clinton, like Bush Sr., like Carter, like Nixon, …..
        Our salvation and Freedom are dependent on people realizing that Leaders are in it for themselves. They throw the people only enough crumbs to get re-elected. The degradation of our country will continue until people shed their propaganda blinders and wake to reality:
        http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2008/12/sociopathic-politician.html

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        DaveH, you’ve got McCain and I got the double dip of Feinstein and Boxer…stupid is as stupid does.

      • michaeljbeglinjr

        The war hero that supported the latest NDAA and is helping Obama make the Constitution useless? You must mean McCain.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Insurgent,
      On your prices:
      1 Just goes to show you how evil slavery is.
      2 Too bad American employers are pulling those illegals into our country with their jobs/pay.
      3 We vote them in.
      4 President Obama is a Christian.
      5 President Obama is a good man (and your emphasis on the word boy can only be taken as a racial slur).

      As far as “hopey, changey”; he has done a pretty good job under the very difficult circumstances that greeted his administration.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

    There is one question that must be addressed to Romney, and that is would he sign an executive order unsealing Hussein’s records? All of us would like to hear his answer.

  • Ajfrench

    Isn’t it illegal in the US to threaten someone; and if so, why hasn’t he been arrested.

    • Flashy

      LOL…..if it is illegal to threaten someone, there are illegal acts performed daily on this site. :)

      • Capitalist at Birth

        What should be illegal, is allowing people like you any semblance of freedom.

      • eddie47d

        So CB do you want to control Flashy’s thoughts and make them illegal or visa versa?

      • DaveH

        One of the unfortunate side-effects of Freedom of Speech — even Sociopaths like Flashman are allowed to speak freely.

      • DaveH

        Ask me to prove you’re a Sociopath, Flashman.

      • Kate8

        Remember, Obama declared himself above the Law. He now says, the law is what he says it is.

        The question is, from where does he derive this authority? Hug? Where?

        I wrote to the Lead Counsel in the SCOTUS case against O’care, posing similar questions. He wrote back, and while acknowledging the validity of my questions, called them “rhetorical”.

        I did not think them rhetorical. I wanted answers.

        I responded that, with all due respect, if this is the best the nation’s brightest legal minds could come up with…well, that explains a lot.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        yes LOL flashy proves that to us each day with his bogus posts.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Start listing all those supposedly illegal acts.You mentioned them, you prove them.

      • eddie47d

        Time to pony up Capitalist at Birth. Prove the charges.

  • WayneC

    Questions why is there an add for Obama on your website Mr. Livington ? Is this a mistake ?

  • Louis Lemieux

    The real thugs are those coming up with all sorts of conspiracy theories like Obama’s false birth certificate hoping it will make a dent in his integrity among the American public. Barack Obama welcomes elections. He who wins an election has a mandate to try to accomplish what he ran for and Obama won the 2008 general election campaigning for health care reform.

    • http://none John W. Riley

      Sir, your memory is somewhat selective! It was ‘hope and change’ also, do you remember his words “in five days this country will fundamentally change” That’s the only true statement Obama has made. We are in the tank (financially and morally) and Obama spends 2 years passing the health-care bill, behind closed doors with Pelosi & Reid as the promoters. Pelosi “you have to pass it, before you can find out what is in it” what sort of idiot, makes a statement like that! And she’s been one of our Law Makers, God help the USA. As for Reid he is a disgrace as well, no Budget for over 3 years, that’s against the law! Or are they saying Obama’s budget (2 of them, of which, failed miserably) are the rationale for no Senate budgets, I think not! What a state of affairs, this country is in! The People need a clean sweep, otherwise we are destined for the trash pile! GREECE, is around the corner for the USA! November should be a real eye opener, for all politicians on both sides of the isle! But the main goal is to get Obama and his clowns out of office. Then followed by a real shake-up of term politicians can hold office, no more ‘career-politicians’ period! Louis, your a dreamer as is the rest of your like-minded sociopaths!

      • Louis Lemieux

        Our perception of reality are antipodal. I sincerely believe the US wouldn’t be any better today with McCain as president, and with McCain as president the US wouldn’t be that bad either. Both Obama and McCain want what’s best for America!

      • Brad

        Really Louis,

        So you know what was in John McCains mind and what he would have done if elected POTUS. Three years and 88 days later we find our selves over 15 Trillion in the hole and still counting with over 5 Trillion attributed directly to democrats and I’ll say it spineless republicans. With over 44 thousand new regulations since taking office, bush pushed 20K in eight year’s, gas was $1.86 in Jan 09 look at what it is today, reaching four bucks and in other places well over that. Please tell us, what would have John McCain done if POTUS?

    • George E

      Obama made so many campaign promises that he hasn’t kept, make the mind swirl. He totally misrepresented himself and his policies. The interesting thing is that his supporters either haven’t noticed or just don’t care. You have to be more committed to the man than what he stands for or does to do that. Is that putting country first?

      • eddie47d

        Every politician has a wish list and so do the Republicans. Some are over ambitious but get played out anyway. If one side supports an issue the other side will automatically attack that same issue even when they once supported it. You should be well aware of that by now.

      • Brad
      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Brad, smack! :) eddie should heed his own advise…if he even has a clue about what he says and the actual meaning…like apples and oranges.

      • George E

        Eddie,

        I certainly agree that most politicians tend to over promise and under deliver. However, I believe Obama has reset the bar during his administration. Worse yet, it looks like he has been intentionally misleading us as to what he would do with all of his “promises.”

    • bob jones

      Louis, what integrity are you talking about? I do not think I have ever seen anyone who ever had less integrity than Obama.

    • Jibbs

      You can’t get a state I.D. with the birth certivicate he posted…wake up!

    • Oneguess

      Obamao HAS no integrity.

    • DaveH

      Louis,
      If Obama does indeed satisfy the natural-born requirements, why did his Administration issue an electronically altered Birth Certificate as proof? Wouldn’t it have been much simpler to issue the real certificate?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

      • DaveH

        “How fortunate for Leaders that people do not think” — Hitler

      • Kate8

        Dave H. – No kidding.

        Pathetic, isn’t it.

  • Moby49

    Thuggery?? Don’t make me laugh. After the dark period we went through with Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, this environment is sweetness and light by comparison. How come you never objected when that bunch of thugs was in power? Could it be you voted for those thugs??

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Moby49,

      You write: “After the dark period we went through with Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, this environment is sweetness and light by comparison.” They are all evil in their own ways. I would not consider either “sweetness and light” and that you do reveals a lot about you.

      You write: “How come you never objected when that bunch of thugs was in power?” You are speaking out of your hat. Were you reading this site while Bush was “in power?” The answer is no. It did not exist until late 2008. Were you reading this site in 2008? Since the site was started in late 2008, at the end of Bush’s term, there was not a lot of time to reveal the evils of the Bush administration here. However, there are articles in our archives that have dealt with both Bushes and what they have done to the country, if you cared to look before spouting off from a pre-conceived bias. However, in my newsletter, The Bob Livingston Letter (www.boblivingstonletter.com, subscription required), which I began publishing in 1969, there is much in the archives about previous administrations that you might be interested in.

      You write: “Could it be you voted for those thugs?” No.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • JON

        Late in 2008 Bush was still in office. He wasn’t officially out of office until President Obama was sworn in on January 20th 2009.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear JON,

        And your point is?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Deerinwater

        The point is! all this red,white and blue , mamma and apple pie, long live the constitution only started in 2009 and only gained some prominence in 2010.

        short memory?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        “short memory”? In your case it would be NO memory!

        My know-it-all neighbor went rambling on about irrelevant crap from how to groom dogs, how to tattoo arms to how to construct a road and how to build a house instead of getting to the point
        about figuring out the problem. As it turned out he didn’t
        know how anyway.

    • steve wilson

      Why is it that every
      time Obama is exposed people start yelling Bush. What makes people think that the people exposing Obama agreed with everything that Bush did. You people are like a second grade tattle tell. Just take your ball and go home and stop voting for second graders for POTUS!!

    • DaveH

      Moby49, a simple question? Even a Liberal should be able to answer it.
      What did Bush do wrong?

      • Flashy

        DaveH..the shorter answer would be to the question to name any policy of Bush II/Cheney that was a success. What did he do right? Ummmmm….well……there’s maybe …..golly…can’t think of anything….

      • DaveH

        As usual, Flashman dances around the question.

      • Bluebluesdancer

        Destroyed the economy and took us into three wars with no intention of ever paying for anything that he spent money on… borrowed money from the US Citizens and paid it to them and to the large corprations as a tax break… removed restrictions on exporting jobs… outsourced Amercan jobs overseas… Guantanamo… Homeland Security and Privacy invasion… it’s hard to NOT think of something, and it’s MUCH harder to think of anything that he did right! Oh! One thing that has always bugged me, is how he took our fragile reputation on the world stage, and pissed on it, so that for the first time in HISTORY, foreign dignitaries turned away or refused to shake his hand at functions! That made us the laughing-stock of the world and was unforgivable!!
        Thank goodness we have Obama now! I thought that it would be impossible for anyone to rectify the disaster within my lifetime, but in only 3 and a half years Obama has brought our respectability back! What an amazing Statesman! Other countries may disagree with some of his actions, but at least they respect him! (Go and look at what Euro-newspapers say… you’ll see the facts there, if you are brave enough to accept that the Republicans were a disaster!

  • DocVenture

    Bob, I believe all of what you reported is true. However: What I really want to know, is who is the puppeteer behind Obama? He is intelligent in a cunning and deceitful way, but he doesn’t have the intellectual horsepower to pull off the biggest scam in American politics today. Someone else is behind him pulling all the strings. Who is it? That is what America really needs to know. Of course Obama is a corrupt Chicago thug politician, he learned from the best of them. But he’s just a symptom of the problem. What we need to identify is the exact nature of the cancer, then cut it out from within!

    • Kate8

      DocV – Most of us know who is behind Obama.

      Nevertheless, he cannot be allowed to stand. He symbolizes the control the global corporate interests hold over our nation through bribery, blackmail and threats.

      I think he was placed there for just this reason. It’s a poke in the eye, a message to America that we have fallen, that our system has been replaced, that we have no voice.

      So, the question is, what now? Are we to put all of our hope in the next election? Seriously? Who controls the elections? Certainly not us.

      Do we lay down and roll over?

      • Bluebluesdancer

        Stammering Kate: You said ” DocV – Most of us know who is behind Obama.”
        Do, pray tell, elucidate us… we are very curious!! I know it’s not Dick Cheney (even though he and Barack Obama are related) or Donald Rumsfeld, because whatever Obama has done that you think is ‘rotten’, nothing compares to the staff behind GW Bush… so let us in on it will you? Oh! The Democratic Party, you say?? The Constitution you say? Yeah, well we all know that!
        Why don’t you try taking a look at what ‘your’ party has been up to for the past thirty years and come up with some excuses… Oh I forgot… there are none, so all you can do is try to distract everyone from the facts and pretend that you have ‘evidence’ of ‘bad stuff’ that doesn’t exist. I bet your favorite radio shows are Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck!!! LOL!!!! You are hysterical!

      • Kate8

        Blueblues – Your post betrays your ignorance and complete lack of awareness.

        Most of us know who the real powers are, and it has nothing to do with phoney party politics. That’s only a diversion to keep us busy (I refer you to my post to TIME, a few posts up).

        If you really don’t know, and you obviously don’t, I’m not going to go into it for you. Plenty of us have gone over and over it for a long time now, and you’d only mock me, anyway. I suggest you start asking questions and doing research beyond the MSM. They aren’t going to tell you, because they are owned by said powers.

        Happy hunting. Or not. Either way, you are on your own, just like the rest of us.

      • Deerinwater

        Oh! flock! My brand is better then your brand!

  • Roger Short

    The most troubling thing of all, about Obama, and there is much that is troubling, is that most people in authority, including most of the media, do not want to know whether he is a natural born citizen. They don’t care, and the fact is that there is more evidence to prove that he is not, than that he is! This is an extremely dangerous, and frightening situation!!

    • Louis Lemieux

      What do you do with the two newspapers of Hawaii who reported Obama’s birth with the date and his mother’s name. What do you do with the neighbors who remember when Obama was born.

      • Robert Smith

        Niels said it: ““cognitive dissonance”

        Courage from the right in the face of mounting evidence.

        They can never be wrong. Just ask Rush.

        Rob

      • rhcrest

        What neighbors. His grandparents registered his foreign birth and those announcements were generated automatically. Very simple. The announcements don’t prove a thing. People put announcements about their grandchildren being born all the time, even when they are not local.

      • czman

        The PTB just keep sending that “hush money” their way…never fails.

      • Maggiemoo

        What neighbors?

      • George E

        What do you do with Obama’s Kenyan relatives who have stated they remember that he was born there?

      • rhcrest

        George, aww they are only his relatives. What do they know? I mean why would a grandmother know where her grandson was born? What an absurd idea.

      • Patriot

        Should be so easy to prove then! Let’s see the records and why in the world does Obama have several SS #’s, last time I checked I have only 1!

      • bob jones

        Many, many foreign born babies have had their birth notices published in US newspapers simply because of the tremendous advantages US citizenship offers. The only people who have come forward to say they were present at Obama’s birth are his relatives who have repeatedly told everyone that they were there at his birth in Kenya. By the way, his birth records were available in Kenya until shortly after he was elected when Kenyan officials reported that all records of births the week Obama was born had been removed from Kenya’s archives, which should surprise no one. Also, dozens of document experts have shown how the long form birth certificate presented by the White House was actually produced in layers, proving it was a very poorly fabricated replica since legitimate birth certificates are obviously not produced in layers, and then there is the phony selective service card and the stolen Connecticut social security number that they can’t explain away either. Then of course there are his medical and school records that have also been sealed. People do not spend millions to seal all records of their past and produce poorly made replicas because they have nothing to hide.

      • eddie47d

        Actually there are people who spend thousands and even millions defending themselves against false accusations. Politics and tabloid journalism seldom brings out the finest in anyone.

      • steve wilson

        What do you go with the three false birth certificates, 18 false SS numbers, and fruadulent Selective Service Card. You are worried about a newspaper announcement??

      • Windrinker

        Announcements of “live birth” in newspapers mean nothing. Anyone can pay to put in announcements.

        There is no “birth certificate,” those released have proven to be fakes.

        But, we don’t need a birth certificate or an “announcement” to know that this illegal foreigner is not qualified to be in the oval office. His father was not a citizen of this country and never has been.

      • Kim Sturdevant

        Excuse me, Obama is using the Social Security Number of a DEAD MAN. Unless he is willing to admit that all Social Security Numbers are messed up and mean nothing he is in big trouble.

      • Kate8

        Amazing, isn’t it? The media continues to control this issue.

        It seems that the floodgates of information have been pouring out more than enough evidence to convict, yet there are no ears to hear. The sell-out leftist zombies continue to deny, even while excusing O’s blatant, in your face refusal to unseal his records. The right continues to ignore and dismiss. The voice of the people grows louder every day, to no avail.

        Meanwhile, America is being dismantled at breakneck speed.

      • Robert Smith

        Question asked: “What do you do with Obama’s Kenyan relatives who have stated they remember that he was born there…”

        You are talking about the grandmother?

        That was clearly an error by the interpritor and corrected moments later.

        Rob

      • Kate8

        RS My, my. Such selective, pick and choose, who to believe…

        Are you saying his grandmother is not credible because she was a simple black woman?

        Isn’t that shovel getting a little heavy yet?

      • http://lenmilleresq.wordpress.com lenmilleresq

        Please birthers get a life. Obama is your President. Not only that, if you really paid attention to policy and issue instead of this birther nonsense, you would actually see that he is a moderate and a pragmatist. His policies include such conservative causes as the Individual Mandate for health insurance (Heritage Foundation, Bob Dole, Orrin Hatch, Newt, etc.,. etc.) and Cap and Trade– McCain and yues— Sarah Palin. I did not know that Palin was a Marxist-Socialist.

  • Jim

    Actually his first act of office was to finance abortion. He wanted to start out evilly.

    • Robert Smith

      And that information is where???????

      Rob

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Why are you commenting on anything/ You apparently do not have the ability to read, and or, anything that resembles a third grade level of reading comprehension.

    • Meteorlady

      Careful Jim stick to facts.

      On his second day in office, Obama overturned the “Mexico City Policy” that prohibited the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) from contributing money to international family planning agencies that offered abortions or abortion counseling.

  • dan

    …it’s like the cops always say when they’re fishin’ : If you don’t have anything to hide…
    why would you mind if I take a look.
    Thugocracy is beyond Chicago style politics…this is Kenyan / Goebels style .

    • eddie47d

      So Dan does that mean that if the police,FBI,IRS,child services or whoever comes to you front door you will eagerly invite them in and let them rummage through your persona’ items> Goebbel style of coarse. You make it sound so easy!

      • Meteorlady

        Big difference… I would not let them in unless they were legally authorized to do so. I have a right to know the TRUE background of the person I vote for the highest office in this land. I deserve to see a list of ALL their campaign contributors and the amounts they contributed. I have the right to see a history of that person. I have a right to know why Obama AND his wife voluntarily surrendered their law licenses. I have a right to see a VALID birth certificate. I personally do not care to dig into their private lives, but I do care about public records being hidden.

  • niles

    Barack Obama, a complete embarssment to our nation. A clown, bafoon, crook and conman. The laughter that must go on
    by the leaders of other countries. That we, the american people elect a man with zero qualifications and the inablity to lead
    a cubscout troop. Least of all the United States. It is past time, that we abandon our hippie generation, rockstar mentality
    and start electing leaders as our forefathers once did. Men of moral character and a history of leadership ability.
    Wake up america before it’s too late.. If not, then plug in your ipod and rock on.

  • Diane

    What a bunch of idiots!

    • niles

      “cognitive dissonance”
      Dissonance is aroused when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one’s belief, the dissonance can result in misperception or rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others to restore consonance.

      • Kate8

        Too bad that those who need to understand this…won’t.

      • Robert Smith

        Too bad those who need to understand Eric Hoffer’s “True Believers” don’t.

        Rob

    • czman

      Agreed, liberals really are quite the idiots. I think there quite a large contingent of Doctors and others refer to it as a “Mental Illness”…

    • TIME

      CZ,

      I am a liberal, and yet what you note is not true of me nor any educated Liberal.
      What you refer to as Liberals are not such, the people you call liberals are little more than mindless mass media turds.

      The facts are one must be {both sides of the same coin} in a truly free nation one weighs the Plus and Minus effects then finds common ground that benifits all of us.
      We have been programed to think that in an deal one should walk away feeling like you lost something, that nothing more than Lex Fori, aka/ Public Policy, or the Law of the Cesar. There is something thats a TRUTH that most Americans don’t even know, we don’t follow the law that was set forth in the ” Original Constitution.” We have been following the format of Lex Fori from 1960 on.

      When one thinks in only one sided formats – they loose the sight of the BIG Picture then they loose not only the battle but the war. ” Divide and Conquer.”

      Many of you need to really learn to stop useing the mass medias type castings and learn how to see whats real as well whats not, BTW, if its on mass media its for sure little more than 100% total BS from start to finish.
      If you all keep beating each other up on nothing but the PROGRAMED rhetoric we are all feed daily by way of the Mass media and yes that means even FOX news – we all will loose in the end. Is that really of any POSITIVE benifit to this nation?

      With Freedom, comes GREAT Responsibility, the ability to allow others to offend not only you but anyone.

      Peace and Love.

      • DaveH

        As with most words in the English Language, the word Liberal has several different meanings.
        I believe the most accurate description of a political Liberal is one who wants change from Tradition, whereas a Conservative wants to keep things the same. Since our Tradition is one of Limited Government, I call Liberals (politically) those who advocate for Big Government, and Conservatives are those who advocate for Small Government.
        I don’t think you fall in the Big Government crowd, Time.

      • Windrinker

        Mr. Peace and Love,

        Don’t worry, none of us buy into the MSM garbage!

        And real offensive people need a crack on the head, so they learn to be gracious and have manners. There are many of them in Washington that are in need of manners and some “patriotism.” They all sit on the Left!

      • Kate8

        Very well said, TIME.

        If only we could get past debating meaningless party-line fed talking points, we might be able to make some headway.

        Of course, this is the whole reason for having people programmed to keep busy with ideological banter…while those at the top move forward with their real agenda to snare us all. We all know something is wrong, but most people cling to their theories of how things “should be”, locked into a groove of thinking programmed ideas meant only to keep us blaming the other side for our sorry state of affairs and feeling powerless.

        Disconnect, people! Step away from the media and in a few days your own mind will start to kick in…that is, if there is any of it left. We are living the very definition of insanity… it’s time for some fresh ideas and clear thinking.

        We don’t have to go down with the ship. We could break free from the matrix and start forming our own system. But we need to stop believing in the illusion to which we’ve given complete control. Mind control is the greatest weapon of modern warfare, and it absolutely needs our coooperation to work.

        We can’t build a life on theories which have no bearing on reality. Our world takes form from what we project from within ourselves. Love is the only healer, and there is only one Way to unlock it. Men’s hearts have waxed cold in our world, by evil design, and WE have allowed it. WE must be the ones to choose anew.

        We MUST begin thinking our own thoughts. Have we completely forgotten how to do that? Has the constant barrage of “information” succeeded, after all, in destroying our ability to function as natural beings, wiping out our innate capablity of common sense and objective thought?

        Well?

      • wordwaryor

        We must all remember that we got into this current MESS in two ways. First we Compromised our way into it ….. yielding to expedience and compromising with Liberal Leftists ….. was THE WRONG thing to do. This led us to the disaster of $ 118 Trillion in debt for the entitlements and $ 16 Trillion in National Debt. Just the $ 118 Trillion amounts to more than $ 1 Million per taxpayer. So we should now STOP this insane practice. It is insane because we keep doing it and expecting a different result. That strategy no longer works with Liberals and Democrats. We must abandon it.

        And the second way we got here is by standing by silently and not rising up in protest about the travesty’s of our government operating outside the LIMITS prescribed by the Constitution. NO MORE……. We the People demand our Constitutional Republic be put back in place and that government be REDUCED significantly and held accountable to the Constitution and to the People.

        Power to the People and to the Tea Party !!

      • Windrinker

        COMPROMISING with evil men has brought this country to a breaking point!

        COMPROMISE with Evil and Evil wins very time!

        What is all this “love, peace, compromise” crap! Never compromise “to get along!” That is a bunch of liberal bull-crap! It is the way they have “incrementally” come to power and taken away our freedoms. Many people agree with this “feel good” liberal trash they are pushing on us…it is all about “emotions” and making one “feel good” about throwing away conservative principles!

        We paid no attention to these radicals because we dismissed them as idiots that were just “out in left field.” But, we dismissed them, at our own “peril!” As a result, about Twenty-percent of this country is ruling the other Eighty-percent. That is not working for me!

      • Bluebluesdancer

        I actually want to respond to Dave H;
        You give the definition of Liberal and claim that it represents Big Government.
        I recommend that you do some homework. The TRUTH IS FAR FROM WHAT YOUR PARTY WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE! The governments that have grown the most and cost the country the most over the past 60 years have ALWAYS been the Republican version… and luckily for all of US the Democrats (who are obviously the smartest, and realize that a Good Life For All means more than just the top 2%) have always been available an able to start fixing the disaster that they inherit. EVERY TIME, chaps… EVERY TIME!
        Go on believing whatever you like, but you are just showing your ignorance as you blaspheme, lie and twist the facts while watching your propaganda on Faux News. Pathetic!

      • DaveH

        No, BlueBluesDancer,
        You are stuck in the Republican/Democrat paradigm while they both keep growing Government. Politicians love ignorant people like yourself, Dancer. How else could they grow their power at the peoples’ expense?
        What is pathetic, Dancer, is that you think a Liberal is defined as a Democrat. There are Liberals in both major Parties.

      • DaveH

        Read this, Dancer, and get your head out of that smelly place:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

    • Bluebluesdancer

      “Fascism, communism, and religion spread by promising a glorious future. To be successful, these mass movements need the adherents to be willing to sacrifice themselves and others for the future goals. To do so, mass movements often glorify the past and devalue the present. Mass movements appeal to frustrated people who are dissatisfied with their current state, but are capable of a strong belief in the future. As well, mass movements appeal to people who want to escape a flawed self by creating an imaginary self and joining a collective whole. Some categories of people who may be attracted to mass movements include poor people, misfits, former soldiers, and people who feel thwarted in their endeavors. Hoffer quotes extensively from leaders of the Nazi and communist parties in the early part of the 20th century, to demonstrate, among other things, that they were competing for adherents from the same pool of people predisposed to support mass movements.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Progressivism was a major reform movement that began in the
        late 1800s. The movement shared the intellectual roots of European state theorists such as Hegel and Marx. In 20th century Europe their ideas came to fruition in the forms of
        communism in Russia, national socialism––that is, Naziism––in Germany, and fascism in Italy, respectively.

        These movements were ideological cousins of American Progressivism, certainly not isolated from one another; their respective leaders read the same philosophers and made the same arguments, albeit in their respective cultural contexts. Before the outbreak of World War II, American progressive intellectuals had many good things to say about Mussolini and Hitler. Their admiration for these dictators was drawn from their ability to mobilize and centrally plan national economies and society in general, to give “direction” to the otherwise “chaotic” social processes of democratic societies and capitalism. Progressives’ admiration for authoritarian rulers was not quelled after the ravages of the war were over. On the contrary, they went on to admire the machinations of Stalin’s heavy-handed ruling of the inhabitants of the Soviet Union.

        Progressivism advocates—then and now—a total break from the principles of freedom articulated in our founding documents, particularly the Declaration of Independence. It seeks to either get around or dismantle limitations on government power, the very constitutional limitations established in the Constitution for the protection of individual freedom.

        For this reason, the progressives desire for something old in world history, not something new.

        The progressives rejected the notion of negative liberty secured through a limited government, of “natural rights” and any subsequent limits of power set up to secure those rights. They viewed the Constitution as a roadblock to progress, not a bulwark of freedom. They saw unbridled freedom in capitalism as the chief enemy of their notion of freedom and sought to use government as the means to the end of social progress.
        http://www.freedomlessons.net/freedom4.html

      • George E

        JeffH – nice response.

  • MrJay1

    A wretched waste of air for a POTUS.
    This new Liberalism is a disease we all let right in the door due to the pathetic PC culture that infected our country 2 decades ago.
    Definitely keep your powder dry…

    • Deerinwater

      There is nothing “new”, other then the rhetorical resistance of a noise few Mr Jay1.

      and you can’t shoot or cut your way through or out of it.

      But you can “threaten” and vote.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Rumors were flying in Washington, DC in January 2009 that the first Executive Order that Obama issued would be the one that sealed all of his personal records of birth information, educational documents, passport information, and foreign travel documentation among others.

    In a story by Tom Murse, About.com Contributing Writer, titled “Obama’s First Executive Order” dated September 20, 2010 the question was asked, “Did President Really Seal His Own Personal Records?” It might surprise you, as it did me, that the answer is “No”.

    One day after being sworn in as the 44th president of the United States, on Jan. 21, 2009, Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13489, states Mr. Murse and he continues, “That the first order of business Obama took care of on day one of his Presidency was to sign off on an Executive Order that states that only the records he chooses to be made public will be released. This is the subject that was at the absolute top of his agenda. If this isn’t proof that Obama is hiding something, I don’t know what is.”

    So OK; if he didn’t sign an Executive Order sealing all of his private and personal records of birth, schooling, elected service in the Illinois state Senate as well as all travel abroad, where are all of those records? We can only presume he is still cleverly hiding them, not in an Executive Order, but in the protection of one that says only the records he chooses to be made public will be released.

    The actual wording of Obama’s first Executive Order merely rescinded an earlier executive order issued by President Bush severely limiting public access to presidential records after they left office.

    By doing this he was gaining points by making a Bush’s EO public and not kept secret while at the same time protecting his own personal records and keeping his critical personal information top secret and not subject to later disclosure by a succeeding presidential EO. Sounds slick enough to be a Rahm Emanuel maneuver.

    Tom Murse added, “That now-rescinded executive order 13233, was signed by then-President George W. Bush on Nov. 1, 2001. It allowed former presidents and even family members to declare executive privilege and block public access to White House records for virtually any reason”

    Then quoting Obama, “For a long time now, there’s been too much secrecy in this city. This administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but with those who seek it to be known,” Obama said after signing the order rescinding the Bush-era measure.

    “The mere fact that you have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should always use it. Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

    I am sure that this was not the first lie Obama told after becoming the president nor was it his last; but it surely was one hell of a WHOPPER.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/31068

    • Robert Smith

      Posted: “if he didn’t sign an Executive Order sealing all of his private and personal records of birth, schooling, elected service in the Illinois state Senate as well as all travel abroad, where are all of those records? ”

      Add in the garbage about the Ryan divorce and how that was also not done by Obama and the article is quickly falling apart as a fabrication.

      Rob

      • czman

        Taking lessons in “teleprompter reading” is really paying off, ain’t it bob? Spewing out all
        that pre-prepared liberal left wing commie garbage makes you feel like a real expert.
        Go away troll, back under your rock.

      • Maggiemoo

        Is that all you’ve got, Robert? Just the Ryan divorce thing? Come on……dispute anything else or sit down and be quiet. Any thinking person can put 2 and 2 together and see something’s rotten in Denmark (or should I say the White House)!

      • Big Daddy

        This article was just another BS propaganda piece of garbarge, nothing really new. The right has nothing else. What is really sad is that people could believe such nonsense. If anything it shows the need to strengthen the Dept of Education.

      • Windrinker

        Big Daddy, lets talk about the Department of Education morons. Do you know that they decided that kids don’t need to read or write in cursive! Cursive writing is no longer taught in public schools to our children and grandchildren.

        The great educators of this country decided that it is not important to be able to read documents…..like the Constitution! Nor, is it important to be able to write a “signature” on a legal document.. If this trend continues, our kids will have to put their “X” on the dotted line, instead..

        Sorry, off topic….I know.

      • DaveH

        Three hundred years ago, people knew that Government control of education would be the platform of Propaganda:
        http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_3.pdf
        Big Daddy is living proof of the dumbing-down of Americans by Government schools.

      • Deerinwater

        240 some year ago. but I get your point.

      • Brad

        Hey RS,

        You might want to read the E.O. before putting your foot in your mouth; http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2009-01-26/pdf/E9-1712.pdf

      • DaveH

        DeerInHeadlights, I would think you’d have read the article before you correct me.
        From the article:
        “Moleswonh’s Account of Denmark provided one of the earliest descriptions
        of the dangers of making the education of youth a function of government.”
        And it was written in 1692, Ignoramus.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gloriacameron37 Gloria Cameron

      go now get out now he is nut;s

    • Deerinwater

      “Rumors were flying in Washington, DC in January 2009 that the first Executive Order that Obama issued would be the one that sealed all of his personal records of birth information, educational documents, passport information, and foreign travel documentation among others.”

      Standard policy for all modern sitting Presidents Jay. I don’t like it either, but the nature of people requires this restricted access of information. Protecting “any” sitting President is daunting task. of course you know that.

      Any sitting President is a Target, the threat comes from all sides and out of the blue.

      Why you elect to think “O” unworthy of the same security measures as other is for you to explain to us.

      • DaveH

        Supposedly, the Federal Government is in our employ. Would anybody here hire an employee willingly who refuses to divulge any information about his/her past?

      • Brad

        Hey Deer,

        Wasn’t John Kerry and the DNC guilty of pulishing GW’s military record back in 04? You want to claim Ohmama’s info is private and shouldn’t get divulged, if his info is divulged turn about’s fair play. All in the name of politics.

      • Flashy

        Bush II had those records of his past sealed as quickly as he could. he did produce a very sadly damaged and very incomplete copy of his military records, would not divulge his alcoholic records nor those medical records dealing with his drug abuse, and paid some retired officer to whitewash his going AWOL in time of war. Same with his wife’s records which dealt with her driving while intoxicated and killing a friend.

      • Robert Smith

        Holey smokse the lies that build up are amazing.

        First executive order??????

        On Obama’s first day BUSH’s undid Executive Order 13233 that limited access to the records of former United States Presidents. It was drafted by then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales. George W. Bush was the one who was nuts about secrecy.

        The Order was partially struck down in October 2007, and Barack Obama completely revoked it, by Executive Order 13489[2] on January 21, 2009, his first full day in office.

        Rob

      • Opal the Gem

        ” would not divulge his alcoholic records nor those medical records dealing with his drug abuse, and paid some retired officer to whitewash his going AWOL in time of war.”

        Proof flushy give us proof.

        Oh that’s right the only proof you have is your imagination and there isn’t a link to that.

      • eddie47d

        We’re still waiting for Opal to present any facts or even a wild rumor will do to show us you’re alive. Something besides those short snippy remarks everyday.

    • Kate8

      Jay – Since it has come out that Obama knew he would be installed as POTUS way back when he was a teenager, and Russian agents reported during the Bush administration that someone named Barack Obama would be the next US president, long before anyone had ever heard the name… it is painfully apparent that the groundwork was being laid to assure that his rise to power would be unhindered by his despicable and criminal past.

      We need to have a law that anyone running for public office, especially POTUS, HAS to make his records public and that they are verifiable by anyone who chooses to examine them. We MUST know who these people are. This whole situation has much broader implications than any of us know.

      That the idiot liberal left is so blase on this is very telling. They are all part of group-think, hive-mind, Borg in a matrix. They parrot the same blah blah blah over and over in the same words. One has to wonder if this collective mindset might be the “mark”. You can easily spot them from a mile away.

      Did you know that the O’care act calls for all of us being RFID chipped in 2013?

      Looks like we’ll have a serious choice to be making soon. Become a Borg, or…

      • Robert Smith

        Actually it was Jeri who was a Borg in Star Trek and it was her exhusband’s foolishness that got him out of the campaign for the seat Obama won.

        Yup, looks like another chip off the old crock to me. It wood be something I expect.

        Rob

      • Kate8

        RS – You continue to prove yourself with every post.

        LOL.

      • Bluebluesdancer

        “You said: RS, You continue to prove yourself at every post”

        and I say “Thanks Robert! At least there are a couple of sane and intelligent people on here that are willing to look at the evidence and respond reasonably!”
        Keep it up, RS!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Bluebluesdancer, if I may be so bold to ask…have you also come to this website for some “job research”?

        Just askin’?

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Jeff – Kate – flashman’s coworkers must be on overtime these days – or running scared. :)

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Libertytrain …or both?

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Jeff – you’re right – both.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Whenever those of us who clearly see the current President for what he is, and dare to speak out publicly about the dangers to American freedom and liberty Obama’s agenda presents, we are attacked as ignorant anti-Americans, or worse, terrorists. The attacks themselves are a key part of the way socialism works; silence those who would warn of the danger socialism presents. While Obama is currently campaigning for another chance to bring America to her knees, there are those on the socialist plantation preparing to flock to the polls and vote to draw the chains of socialism even tighter, around themselves, and all Americans. They are the people the fathers of Marxism and communism referred to as, “useful idiots.” Future historians will write of the ignorance of the American people in the early 21st century and wonder at their lack of reasoning. I sincerely doubt those future historians writing about us will be Americans, however. By that time, the “American iron curtain” will have fallen and we will be engulfed in the darkness of communism.

    • Robert Smith

      From Jay: “The attacks themselves are a key part of the way socialism works;”

      The tactic even has a name. It’s called “Swift Boating.”

      The right certainly are the experts.

      Rob

      • http://yahoo mytwocentswrth

        So, the guys on the Swift Boats who were THERE in Viet Nam with the great John Kerry, are not entitled to tell their story because it conflicts with Kerry’s self-serving version? Kerry is a fraud, as is Obama. Liberalism is a great lie, wrapped in deceit. It’s about time the people see these frauds for who they are.

      • eddie47d

        There was much untruth’s coming from those Swift Boaters for “truth” or didn’t you care because it suited your personal agenda?

      • Deerinwater

        Beautiful fiction this morning Mr. Livingston! Well Done! Don Barack Obama~ has a certain ring to it! funny? I like it!

        As far as swift boating “Lee Water” and “The Boggieman” is required reading for anyone that seeks an understanding of this tactical political strategy and how it had helped shape and formed politics today. Give them the old Willie Horton 22 sku doo Friday mid morning, right at the approaching end of the weekly “news cycle” and then let us all leave town before the reporter swarm the office.

        I see no heavier hand working behind the scenes, working as “enforcers”, shaping politics today then “W’s” administration employed them, but much less in fact. “W” was much more blatant and in your face with any descent that failed to support his administrations policies.

        But, be that as it may, this thumb twisting has anyways been fair play on the HILL. So why would it not be today?

        I wouldn’t count your eggs too soon, in thinking the Courts will hand the GOP some illusion of a Victory but in fact the GOP stands to “lose” whatever the final out come.

        Just like tax breaks for the wealthy, offering people something and then try to take it away will be meet with stiff resistance and resentment. It’s much like trying to catch a bullet and put it back in the barrel, yet it is possible to do.

        To make right, HCR will have to be replaced with something else. Who might accept the political baggage to do such a thing? HCR and Immigration reform only become “issues” for the GOP when they are out of power and not in control of the Oval office. The reason for that is because they enjoy things as they are.

        Heath care Insurance? They are or have been entitled employees and well covered while the rest of American’s helping to subsidies their health care policy.

        Immigration? A cheap, non voting labor force is a perfect setup for the GOP. They approve of this and it shows as they turn a blind eye to it when they are in the position to address it.

        The Coyote’s loved “W’s” nice fence, as it greatly increased the value of his services! I feel certain he’s on their Christmas card list, offering “Season Greetings” and great prospects in the coming new year.

      • Vigilant

        From Deerinheadlights:

        “Immigration? A cheap, non voting labor force is a perfect setup for the GOP. They approve of this and it shows as they turn a blind eye to it when they are in the position to address it.”

        Revise to “A cheap, VOTING labor force is a perfect setup for the Jackasses. They approve of this and it shows as they turn a blind eye to it when they are in the position to address it.”

      • DaveH

        Deer says — “I wouldn’t count your eggs too soon, in thinking the Courts will hand the GOP some illusion of a Victory but in fact the GOP stands to “lose” whatever the final out come”.
        It won’t be a victory for the GOP when Obama Care is ruled Unconstitutional — It will be a victory for the People, who don’t want the Federal Government reaching in their pockets and telling them how their money should be spent.

        Deer says — “Just like tax breaks for the wealthy, offering people something and then try to take it away will be meet with stiff resistance and resentment”.
        Stealing less money from the Rich is NOT a tax break. It could rightly be called a Theft Break though.

        Deer says — “To make right, HCR will have to be replaced with something else”.
        Is that right? First Big Government Progressives meddle with the Health Care industry. Then when things inevitably go wrong, as they usually do with Big Government Intervention, the Progressives offer themselves as the solution to the problems they created in the first place.
        Some real solutions:
        http://mises.org/daily/3643

      • Deerinwater

        I’m just giving you an opening play scenario, ~ You can hang to your Libertarian beliefs if you want too, but you will be the odd man out my friend.

        You are attempting to affect a lot of peoples lives with your libertarian ideas and you will met heavy resistance to these “ideas”.

        I don’t really care personally, but I sure care nationally.

        I’m all but dead man already, what have I to gain, 5 minutes, 5 weeks, months, 5 years? I can’t buy good health. I can’t expect to enjoy a quality of good health in my 70′s and 80′s. We get old , we die, we wear out, That’s the way it works and each of us has to face it personally at some point, I have not desire to see a 80 years old man with a new heart or even help pay for one.

        Make no mistake , this issue is much greater then just you or I.

        Personally, I believe, employer/employee based health care is an absurd notion to start with. it makes little sense accept to “markets” and middle men.

      • Flashy

        “To make right, HCR will have to be replaced with something else.”

        And then the Right will get what they’ve asked for. The Public Option. It should have been in place instead of the mandate. But the Right can’t let it sit because they’d have nothing to whine about and create conspiracy theories with.

        IF HCR is declared as an overexercise of Congressional Commerce Powers, what has been in place cannot, in reality, be reversed. Thus we’ll have a huge mess as what was (no health care except by fiat by private insurance companies) will be impossible to return to.

        Thus, if the SCOTUS does declare the Mandate to be overreach by Congress…the remaining option will be…a Public Option. Truly the Right is going to get what they asked for …

      • Robert Smith

        Deerinwater posted: ” “W” was much more blatant and in your face with any descent that failed to support his administrations policies. ”

        Yup. A fine example is The Plame Affair. Scooter Libby got sentenced and Bush let him off the hook for that one. CONVICTED, yet he didn’t go to jail.

        Sadly the Bush administration is clearly responsible for folks connected to the CIA being killed when Plame was outed as a CIA operative.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Dave H says: “Then when things inevitably go wrong, as they usually do with Big Government Intervention,…”

        Really?

        Many rules came off the financial markets and we darn near had a total crash. It wasn’t until Bush and then Obama bailed them out that things began to get better.

        And you want to trust your medical care to a fat cat executive who farms out phone answering to India so they can tell you that you won’t get treatment?

        Government doesn’t need to MAKE money on health care. Fat cats do, and they do it by denying treatment.

        They weren’t held accountable until Obama came along.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        “Sadly the Bush administration is clearly responsible for folks connected to the CIA being killed when Plame was outed as a CIA operative.”

        Care to back that up with facts? You can’t.

        Moreover, it was Richard Armitage, Deputy Secretary of State, NOT Libby, who leaked the information. Armitage was not at all sympathetic with the Bush Administration.

      • Meteorlady

        “Many rules came off the financial markets and we darn near had a total crash. It wasn’t until Bush and then Obama bailed them out that things began to get better.”

        Excuse me but Clinton was responsible for signing to repeal Glass-Steagall and didn’t Barney and Chris re-write the banking laws? If Clinton would not have signed Fair Housing and numerous one-sided trade agreements, we would not be where we are today. The housing collapse was directly caused by Clinton policies.

        He even appointed a couple of real looser crooks to head Fannie and Freddie. Didn’t Franklin Delano Raines walk away in total disgrace with about $100 MILLION in unearned bonuses?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        What’s the best description for our dear friend Deer? I kinda like “Blathering Idiot”, I think he wear it well! Listening to you reminds me of the “MASH” character Winchester! GAG!!! My God! Where did all these cockroaches come from?!! Somebody get the Raid quick!!! See what ya did Bob! It’s like what Jack Nicholson said to Tom Cruise in “A Few Good Men”,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo!!!
        You are sooo right MeteorLady, what we’re experiancing here has been coming on for a looong time! Dare I quote Jerimiah Wright, “America’s chickens are comin’ home to roost!!!”

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Tom W. :) I much prefer Jabberwocky…often seemingly unintelligible, playful and whimsical.

      • DaveH

        I sure do tire of the old Liberal myth of Financial Deregulation.
        The Financial industry is regulated every bit as much as before. They are just Different regulations.
        Read this, Robert, and learn something:
        http://www.cato.org/research/articles/cpr28n4-1.html

        Glass Steagall was passed in 1933 by Crony Politicians of the Rockefellers to hobble the Morgan Banking Empire. It’s something Politicians do for their Crony Capitalists while they spoon-feed the ignorant Liberal followers with smooth talk.
        Glass Steagall had 3 main provisions (from History of Money and Banking in the United States):
        “(1) the compulsory separation of commercial and investment banking.
        (2) the provision of federal “insurance” to guarantee all bank
        deposits. And
        (3) prohibiting commercial banks from paying interest on their demand deposits.
        The compulsory separation clauses (a) severely restricted commercial banks from buying securities—except, cleverly, that government securities were exempt from this restriction; (b) prohibited commercial banks from issuing, underwriting, selling, or distributing any securities (again, government securities were exempt); and (c) prohibited any investment bank, that is, a bank that does underwrite corporate securities, from ever accepting any deposits”.

        Guess what the Morgans did? Yep, they owned banks that did commercial and investment banking.
        Get it, Robert? As usual Politicians were feathering their own nests and those of their Crony Capitalists at the rest of our expense.

      • Bluebluesdancer

        Hi Robert! :-)
        The thing that so many people on here seem to be unaware-of, is that as we turn more-and-more to the Chicago-style political system of Privatizing or ‘out-sourcing’, we are creating a middle-man.
        When the government runs something, it is a not-for-profit venture. Admittedly there needs to be oversight to make sure it doesn’t become corrupt, but that would be true of any system.
        When it is a ‘For-Profit’ system it is designed to …wait-for-it… Make a profit!!! This means that even if INITIALLY it appears to be less expensive than the government-run and inefficient system we currently use, you can bet your bottom dollar that within a short time it will be more expensive.
        Prisons are something that are an incredible infringement on our rights and will also become a huge expense own-the-road. But that is yet another topic!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Tne truth can be damning, can’t it Robert?!

      • George E

        Bluebluesdancer,

        I’ll bet you’ve heard this, and don’t choose to believe it, but I’ll try anyway. Profit is what motivates business people to work for your business. When there’s real competition among suppliers, they will find ways of offering you a better product/service at a lower price because that’s what it takes to get your business. What do you think motivates government to reduce costs and offer you a better service? Actually, nothing. That’s why they don’t reduce costs or improve their service. It just gets more and more expensive, and now with government workers unionized, the costs really go up!

      • Deerinwater

        ” Profit is what motivates business people to work for your business.”

        Yea, they will work, or steal and commit fraud for profit as well. So your point is?

        Needless to say, people are motivated by “gains”

      • George E

        My point is that businesses operating in a competitive market are motivated by profits to give their customers a good product/service at a low price (ie, high value). Government has no such motivation, so they don’t strive to improve the quality or value of their services. This is basically why quality often suffers, but costs almost always go up for government provided services. This is the reason we need to privatize as many government services as we can when these services can be provided by good companies in a competitive market. Of course, privatizing government services in a crony capitalist market is often worse than government supplied services because corruption can be worse than inefficiency.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        George E, your point is well put. Governments have no place except to provide a very narrow range of services like national defense and other things such as those that were provided in our original Constitution. When the government goes into business it often turns into a monopoly where the quality of the services and products deteriorate to the point of becoming almost worthless. Government employees are no better than the masses of peasants who worked for the communist governments Russia, China and others as they had no incentive to do a good job. That’s not to say that some government employees don’t do good work as there are some but most sadly are deficient in the quality and quantity of the work they produce.

      • George E

        Katrael,

        I don’t think government workers are really any different than anyone else. However, the system they work in doesn’t incentivize them to do their best work, so over time, they just don’t. Not all that different than teachers in our public schools. Most of these people are good folks who would like to do a good job and make a difference, but the system just doesn’t allow it.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        George E, I’m not so sure that most of them really want to work hard as government jobs
        tend to attract certain types of people with certain mentalities just the same way political positions do. I’m not saying every one of them is lazy I’m just saying that the majority of them don’t work hard and I’m not saying that they are any worse morally than any other segment of the population.

        I do agree that the system doesn’t promote the best efforts of the poeple who work within it and that’s why I likened it to a communist system. You’re right there is no real incentive for them to work hard.

        The only other point I will make is this: all government positions require the wealth of others to exist.

      • George E

        Katrael,

        You’re probably right about government jobs attracting people with less ambition than other types of jobs. You’re also correct that we have to pay their salary and benefits. Thanks.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      “Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” –Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky

      Obama helped fund ‘Alinsky Academy’: “The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy…. Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization…. ‘Midwest describes itself as ‘one of the nation’s oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.’… Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing.”

      Hillary Clinton’s 1969 Political Science Thesis (“There is Only the Fight”) refers to an earlier version of Alinsky’s training manual. “In 1946,” she wrote, “Alinsky’s first book, Reveille for Radicals, was published.”
      http://nukegingrich.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/hillaryclintonthesis.pdf

      Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky: “True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties…. Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.

      “Obama is also an Alinskyite…. Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project…. Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        :( ….While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.”

      • eddie47d

        If Obama belonged to Rev Wrights church for 20 years how could he have all of a sudden jumped into it and “became an instant church goer” . You’re too much Jeff. You ought to be more concerned about the right wing extreme radicals out there that are doing much more damage and killing. You’re credibility is extremely weak on that issue.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, I wouldn’t expect you to even understand the why’s and the where’s…much less comprehend them.

        Keep parroting though…”no credibility”? LMAO!
        POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkk!

        I’m pretty darn sure you and jopa are related in some way.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        DUH eddie…I’ll give you a hint…Obama and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright

        1972 — Wright becomes pastor of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ.

        1985 — Obama begins working as a community organizer in Chicago; meets Wright.

        1988 — Obama embraces Christianity after hearing a Wright sermon on hope.

        1992 — Obama “joins Trinity United Church”; Wright officiates at Obama’s wedding.
        http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/04/29/1460529-timeline-of-barack-obamas-relationship-with-jeremiah-wright

      • Kate8

        JeffH – The weird thing is, why has Obama gone so overboard to establish his alleged past. Things like writing 2 bios when he’s a virtual nobody, flooding the media with pics of him as a child, wedding photos, etc. Who’s he trying to convice?

        I have grave doubts that any of those things are real. When has any other candidate gone out of his way to put out childhood and wedding photos? It makes no sense, unless he’s trying to divert attention from his actual past.

        Am I the only one who finds this stuff highly suspect?

        I believe it’s all been manufactured. HE’S been manufactured.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Kate8, I can’t argue that…no doubt he’s a made…man to serve(a purpose). Not only do I have a sincere distrust in Obama but I don’t trust most politicians. I just don’t trust government at all anymore.

      • Kate8

        JeffH – I’d say “man of perdition” fits him quite nicely.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Kate8, thanks, I learn something new almost everyday! :)

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Just in case you may not know, “man of perdition” is another Biblical name for the antichrist.

    • Joseph Murphy

      When I first heard the name “Obama”, I said to myself, he is the “Abamanation”

  • s c

    Actually, Obummer is busy channeling FDR, Bismarck and Rousseau, Bob. Throw in a dash of dark influences ala Dante, and that just about sums up this nation-imploding administration.
    OK, utopians, tell us how Bob’s entire article is untrue and made-up and offensive. And, while you’re at it, tell us how
    many ways Obummer is making Amerika better and stronger and safer. Take a long hit off that bong, and tell us what we need to know. Here’s your chance.

    • Robert Smith

      “tell us how Bob’s entire article is untrue and made-up and offensive.”

      Already did nail the part where he claimed that the divorce paper release was manipulated by Obama.

      They both agreed as long as the custody information wasn’t released. .

      Rob

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Is ignorance bliss?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        It must be, because you continue to wallow in it.

      • http://personalliberty jlbs

        OK, Robert. Now tell us how 0 has made our lives so much better.

      • Opal the Gem

        “Already did nail the part where he claimed that the divorce paper release was manipulated by Obama.

        They both agreed as long as the custody information wasn’t released.”

        Just because they agreed doesn’t mean obama’s minions didn’t manipulate things and get them to agree to the release.

        You fail to address the forced release of the custody information that neither Ryan agreed to.

      • Kate8

        Opal – Of course Obama’s handlers were behind the scandal.

        He was a virtual unknown from out of nowhere, and had nothing to offer in the way of reasons to vote for him. The only way he could win was to be the only choice on the ballot, and he knew it. It was all a planned set-up, like his whole life, and everything that’s gone down since. Such as knocking Hillary off the ballot.

        Becoming Senator was just a way of establishing an inroad to the presidency. He was fast-tracked by a manufactured image and media hype. Nothing else. Only the addle-brained bought into it.

        Regardless of how the scandal came out, it was Obama’s camp that made it happen. Yet, his past is more dark than the worst of the worst, and it’s kept out of the media. And everyone who is anyone is afraid to speak of it.

        That pretty much says it all.

      • American Girl

        “tell us how Bob’s entire article is untrue and made-up and offensive.”

        Robert Smith says,

        “Already did nail the part where he claimed that the divorce paper release was manipulated by Obama.

        They both agreed as long as the custody information wasn’t released.”

        Can you read?

        “In the general election Obama faced Jack Ryan, husband of actress Jeri Ryan. During a child
        custody dispute some years prior to the election, Jeri Ryan had claimed that Jack Ryan made her accompany him to swingers clubs in New York and Paris. Axelrod obtained “leaked” copies of the couple’s Chicago divorce records and then The Tribune sent lawyers to California to request the sealed child custody case records be unsealed. Over the objections of both Ryans, the judge released the records. Shortly thereafter, Jack Ryan withdrew from the race.”

        Apparently, not.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Actually Kate8, Hillary was chuggin’ right along there in 2008 until Barack, whom she’d never taken seriously up till that point, won the North Carolina primary by double digits and was narrowly defeated in Indiana! She then got nervous and tried to play the race card!!! She was called out on it and it proved to be the mistake from which she never recovered!

  • Sirian

    Bob,
    I have but one word to describe my reaction to this article – OUTSTANDING!! People, please take the time to watch this video, it will perhaps open your eyes more to whom we think is our President.
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/new-sheriff-calls-for-roundup-of-obama-records/

    • FreedomFighter

      Yes it was an OUTSTANDING READ, truth always is.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        What more can I say Bob, kudos!!! So the Clintons were actually intimidated by da O?!! It’s a wonder he hasn’t had the presidential motorcade equiped with some 22′s yet! WND’s senior staff writer Dr. Jerome Corsi wrote an excellent book about O’s rise to hip-hop rock star status entitled “The Obama Nation”, an excellent bio of O’s life, cradle to being elected POTUS. His years as a community organizer in Chi-town are well documented and I believe could still prove fatal to his re-election if some knowedgable (And super brave!!!) investigative reporter was to do some SERIOUS digging! If more people would’ve read this book prior to the election, and it did come out just prior to, O might not have won! I think it raises some pretty serious ethicical questions about the man, the people, and agenda behind him! It also well documents the back and forth between O’s and Hill’s primary race leading up to O’s nomination by the DNC! EXCELLENT READ!!! As was your article Bob!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6afMI3EJL4

        LOL!!!

      • Michael J.

        And for those that are holding out the hope that there vote will make a difference, there’s this:
        http://www.youtube.com/user/mhfm1

        Thus explains the cock-sure bragging to Medvedev, and the boasts of having five more years which were both portrayed as gaffes, a slip of the tongue, or oops, is that a live mic? Were instead premeditated assurances to his supporters of another term. Once successful, expect your precious metals to become contraband after an executive order deems them such. Natural Gas will become extinct, gasoline prices will take on European stratospheric altitudes because his utopia dictates a neccesary skyrocketing effect in order to justify his 70 mile per hour golf cart pet projects.

        “Well it’s one, two, three, what’re we fightin-for…
        Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn…
        The next stop is the Fema Camp…”

      • Kate8

        Michael J. – I saw that video, as well. Turns out that voter fraud and ballot tampering is practically a foregone conclusion in America. Well, everywhere…

        We only thought we were different.

        That is why I say that citizens need to DEMAND that they stand watch at every phase of the process, from nominations through to the end of the count.

        Americans have been naive and trusting. Well, no more…

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Which we should’ve been doin’ all along Kate8! Is there a reason that we don’t or a point in time in which we stopped?!!

      • just me

        Guys, I just came from WND, where I found a blurb by Savage talking about a company called SCYTL. Check them out. They’re a vote counting outfit, apparantley owned by someone who was a major donator to the o campaign in 08. Guess they’re now owned by Spaniards, with not one American on the board.

      • Kate8

        justme – Figures. Foreign donations are supposed to be illegal, but O recieved hundreds of millions in foreign campaign contributions in ’08. Of course, he refused to disclose the origin of the donations…it had to be searched out. The opaque administration.

        So, he gets money from wherever he wants. This is certainly the most lawless administration to date, and their have been some bad ones.

        More proof of how our nation has fallen to foreign powers.

      • Carl Manning

        That’s what you get when you have a tyrannical Congress and vassal State governments: endless tyranny. Electing another batch of GOP whores to Congress will change absolutely nothing. Until we completely divorce ourselves from the GOP and the Dems by coalescing around a Constitutionalist Third Party or Independent candidate like Ron Paul, we will continue to be slaves of the District of Criminals. The GOP has allowed all of this tyranny because they are complicit by doing nothing and refusing to honor their sacred oath to uphold the Constitution; this is absolutely inexcuseable TREASON. The GOP has allowed itself to become the Communists’ useful idiots. During Obamas’ second term, they will all be executed along with much of the SCOTUS, and they’re just arrogant enough not to know it. They will all get exactly what they deserve for High Treason, and Obama, Hillary, and Bill – all KGB spies – will be laughing their “bleeps” off with Putin and Medvedev at how the US government were a bunch of blithering idiots – how they made it too easy for them to have a bloodless Communist KGB coup without even a shot.

      • CitySurvivor

        Also as a side comment of Bob L’s “Don” comment, we are obligated to remember what happens to these types of thuggish, exploitive people: Usually, a BIGGER DON arranges for them to get a “headache”. Then the turds are gone forever, sleeping with the eggplants.

    • Warrior

      This whole regime from chicago are sleazy, disgusting and vile people. Take your pick, little barry, axelrod, jarrett, rush, blago, madigan, quinn, rahm, durbin. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. No other way to say it. The whole stinking place (IL) is broke financially and morally. I know, I live here and am sick and tired of being forced to pay for their corruptness.

      • wandamurline

        I can almost assure you that the false accusations against Herman Cain can be traced back to David Axelrod….who is a complete corrupt a z z . The first blonde who came forward knew David Axelrod….as a matter of fact, she lived in his apartment building. Maybe, the last one that had a long consensual affair may have been true….but the women who did not come forward and the blonde who did …. their accusations were never proven. Here was a b l a c k man who was up in the polls as a candidate against another b l a c k man who is POTUS….this just could not be allowed to happen….it would split the votes, so Cain was set up for his downfall. If I were Cain, I would be investigating these women and filing law suits against them for defamation of character and trace the money trail back to Axelrod and then go after him. This administration is the most corrupt bunch I have ever seen and I have seen 11 presidents in my life time.

      • Jibbs

        I know what you mean about living there, (we lived in DuPage county next to Crook county) I’m so glad we moved out of state. Illinois is nothing but a cesspoll sewer of a state.

      • Ornley_

        I agree Warrior but do you really know the entire score here? It all started pre-Obama. Obama simply threw others tho placed them under the bus and ran over them. One, however, now panders to him.

        Look, if you will, into Hillary Clinton. Where and for whom she worked before her marriage to Bill. Look into what was going on in Arkansas at the time and why she was sent to Arkansas where she allegedly met and started her family life with Bill.

        There is a common denominator here that few people look at close enough to really connect the dots. Most of America either doesn’t care or is just to involved with their own personal problems to really know what is going on right under their noses. I hope it’s the latter as that leaves hope that they will wake up and make the necessary changes to get things back on track. But I have to be honest that I am starting to believe that most simply do not care. Buy the time they do start caring it will most likely be too late.

      • Michael J.

        Ornley,
        You are correct in that the Clinton’s have a walk-in closet full of skeletons the size of Walmart. It’s these skeletal remains in addition to the death threats that have conVINCEd the Clinton’s not to FOSTER any plans to drop a dime on Barry.

      • Kate8

        Michael J. – Yep. The Clinton’s own thuggery (and body-count) has come back to bite them in the b*tt. Death threats against a killer.

        Boy, kharma’s a real bummer. In fact, it’s an O-bummer. :)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        So you sayin’ that Herman “Da Playa” Cain was falsely accused wandamurline?!! LOL!!! He was an idiot and I’m surprized Gloria ain’t threw him out in the streets yet! Watch, cause it’s comin’!!!

      • Marten The Canadian Libertarian

        Take a look at this one…http://etherzone.com/body.html

      • Kate8

        Marten – Wow! What a find. Thanks!

        I knew the body count was high, but I had no idea it was this high!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Marten, WOW!

    • Robert Smith

      From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ryan: “Both Jeri and Jack agreed to make their divorce, but not custody, records public, saying their release could be harmful to their son.[29]”

      SHE wanted the divorce because Jack was taking her to sex clubs. Details are in the Wikipedia article.

      The release had nothinig to do with Obama. The focus was on the hot star of Jeri as Seven of Nine in Star Trek.

      Rob

      • Sirian

        As usual, OK RS, try reading this one. I know it will mean nothing to you but it is still worth the few minutes it will take.
        http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/why-obamas-political-mentor-deserted-him/

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Robert Smith,

        Manipulation, thy name is Robert Smith. I suggest you reread the article. I did not write that the Ryans objected to the divorce records being released.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Misinformation only works on ignorant people, like you Robert.

      • eddie47d

        Elections must be getting closer and here we are overindulged with a New Low of conspiracy theories. You all need to take your blinders off and stop pretending that the Republicans don’t indulge in under handed political tactics . James O’Keefe is one of your experts in underground activities and his misinformation is plentiful. Then again he never did outdo the Swift Boaters for “truth”. Now that was an oxymoron. Maybe we’ll hear about the “other side” sometime soon. Hmmm!

      • Kate8

        Big deal, anyway, RS. Maybe they went to sex clubs. Yes, despicable. But Obama frequented gay bath houses, and continues to do so. And oh, so much more.

        Kind of pot calling kettle black, so to speak. Yet, he forced those folks into unsealing their records… something he, himself, has steadfastly refused to do. I can see why, too, because he’s a fraud, a fake, a commy, and a thoroughly disgusting human (?) being, and totally unqualified for POTUS even aside from his BC. He’s a criminal, a psychopath and a sociopath, bent on inflicting maximum pain on the American people with everything he does.

        Well, it’s Monday, the beginning of the paid bloggers’ workweek. Do you sit at a government job, RS, getting paid by the taxpayers to harrass conservative sites instead of doing legitimate work?

        We know where you come from and why you are here. Don’t bother trying to deny it. We know you are also a consummate liar.

      • Robert Smith

        Bob says: “I did not write that the Ryans objected to the divorce records being released.”

        But you did state that Obama’s side was responsible. In fact it was the Holywood publicity machiens that related more to Jeri’s acting career than Obama’s election.

        Rob

      • Kate8

        RS – BS.

      • Meteorlady

        Correct me if I’m wrong here but can’t anyone contribute to Wikipedia? That is not a source I would regularly reference. That aside – why is Obama hiding the records of why he and his wife gave up their law licenses? What happened there? Why not post his grades? Where’s the “real” birth certificate instead of some Photoshopped version? Why did they attack Herman Cain and where was the real proof? I believe Cain was really really scary for Obama and that he knew he would not stand a chance if had to run against Cain.

      • http://lenmilleresq.wordpress.com lenmilleresq

        Your name is apt. Let me know when you land on Earth.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie blindly chimes in with “here we are overindulged with a New Low of conspiracy theories. You all need to take your blinders off and stop pretending that the Republicans don’t indulge in under handed political tactics . James O’Keefe is one of your experts in underground activities and his misinformation is plentiful.”
        _____________________________________________

        Is this just another of your “cheap shots” directed at Mr. Livingston and PLD?

        Of course we all know that eddie cannot provide anything that would support his false assertions. As for O’Keefe, I’m guessing it hurts when one of your own(ACORN)is exposed for hat they are and what hey do.

      • Kate8

        Meteorlady – I believe Obama lost his law license because he has used aliases, and lied about it.

        Michelle lost hers for some other unethical behavior…don’t recall what. I’m sure you could search it out. It’s out there.

      • Bluebluesdancer

        Correct me if I’m wrong here but can’t anyone contribute to Wikipedia? That is not a source I would regularly reference.
        *That works both ways: It can be changed to the good as well as the bad, so it is usually a good source because lies don’t last there for very long*

        That aside – why is Obama hiding the records of why he and his wife gave up their law licenses? What happened there?
        *http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp

        Why not post his grades?
        *Unknown. Maybe he feels that it is irrelevant, as I do*

        Where’s the “real” birth certificate instead of some Photoshopped version?
        *I want to see yours. Send me the real original hard-copy so that I can personally be assured that it is real. An o-line version cannot be considered real (by you). Some people are so suckered into the media-crap that they ACTUALLY believe that democrats would ‘back’ a President who did not qualify! How stupid is THAT! LOL! I’m sure you cannot be one of them.*

        Why did they attack Herman Cain and where was the real proof? I believe Cain was really really scary for Obama and that he knew he would not stand a chance if had to run against Cain.
        *Several reasons:
        1) He was obviously a puppet backed by the Koch Bros
        2) He was too stupid.
        3) He was the Republican ‘token black’ that they thought could compete against Obama just because he is black, just as Sarah Palin was McCain’s ‘token woman’ who they thought could compete against a real woman like Hillary Clinton. I’m happy to report that MOST Republicans were able to see through the transparently insulting and disparaging concept, and that is the main reason why.
        4) http://www.mediaite.com/tv/herman-cain-explains-why-he-dropped-out-of-the-race-on-snl/ *

      • Vicki

        eddie47d says:

        You all need to take your blinders off and stop pretending that the Republicans don’t indulge in under handed political tactics.

        Hmmmm… Evidence that eddie writes but does not read much. But then again are any of us surprized?

        Hey eddie. does the name Ron Paul ring any bells? WE all commented at great length about how the Republicans have used underhanded politics to suppress Dr Paul’s message.

        And of course the liberal media is oh so happy to help since getting obama or Miniobama (Romney) will be just alright by them.

      • George E

        Bluebluesdancer,

        It offends me that you think a black person who is a Republican isn’t really black, or that a woman who is a Republican isn’t a “real” woman. I’ll bet they are offended even more.

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        Finally a voice of reason and fairness. Robert thy name is integrity! Never have I seen a more slanted, one-sided, paranoid, slanderous pice of crap than this story!

    • Flashy

      Nice piece of fictional conspiracy.

      A nice basis for a John Grisham or maybe a Clancy novel. If the same time and effort was put towards Reagan and Bush (both), you’d have similar theories and could spin the novel from the 1980 elections onward. Or….one could spend the same time and effort and detail the conspiracy against Pres. Obama and on behalf of a small wealthy group of billionaires.

      • FreedomFighter

        Or you could spend your time at the range firing large caliber weapons at multiple targets untill you can hit them without breaking a sweat.

        very fun

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • ArkansasRebel

        I refuse to dignify your comments with a reply

      • Tom Cook

        What do you bet ole flashy is called that because of his fake gold front tooth. Stupid is a better name. obongo is the lowest form of scum who will be supported by all the other flashies with their pants down around their knees–ignorant savages who are not Americans at all and will support the African communist mus no matter what. Many of the others who were stupid at obongo’s first go around are waking up. Unfortunately the Republicans have nothing between their legs and the media is just a bunch of self-hating anti-American liberal numbnuts who will pander and suck up the the communist mus until the end.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Flashy, you are a perfect example of why some would support legalized abortion.

      • http://charter Joann Clemens

        People always keep there head in the sand untill it to late.

      • firefight

        ……and for some, they will never acknowledge the truth, nor will they understand the truth not will they seek the truth………….for, all that they are, they are a part of the lie.

      • Jibbs

        Those that help to spread the lie’s and misleading information, are always the first to go.

      • Windrinker

        Radicals can’t deal with “Facts!” They like to be “emotional” that way they don’t have to hurt their heads with the “truth!” It is too painful for them!

        Are you really called flashy because you have gold front teeth, and wear your pants around your knees? Maybe you wear your “ball cap” backwards and have multiple, long gold (colored) chains around your neck. That would enhance your image a little more. Go for it.

      • Vigilant

        Josef Flashy Goebbels says, “one could spend the same time and effort and detail the conspiracy against Pres. Obama and on behalf of a small wealthy group of billionaires.”

        Uh, who’s got the biggest campaign war chest, and where does it come from?

        http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        It never runs dry Vig, that’s a big win when you have control of the Treasury’s printing presses!!!

      • Kate8

        Doesn’t it ever bother anyone that all trolls like Robert Smith and Flashy only have to post a one line bit of blather and get two feet of thread responses? I’m so sick of them controlling the entire direction of the conversation…EVERY DAY.

        They are just being paid (with OUR money) to be provocative, and to give the illusion that there are actually large numbers of people who think like them. The truth is, they are a few small-minded sellouts to their country who have no interest in truth or anything decent, and are willing to do anything for thirty pieces of silver.

        Let’s start looking toward some real solutions instead of continually giving these jerks exactly what they are here for: to keep us distracted by hurling punches at our intelligence. If some find that offensive, well…I find it extremely offensive that anyone can defend the indefensible.

      • Robert Smith

        Kate 8 says: “I’m so sick of them controlling the entire direction of the conversation…”

        Truth will do that.

        BTW, can you prove Obama goes to a gay bathouse?

        Can you prove that the newspapers that announced his birth started a conspiracy at his borth to make him POTUS?

        Oh, and can you prove that I’m hired to be here? I can tell you that I’m not (as I’ve told others before) and that because I’ve posted it before you are now outright lying.

        If you want someone who is “paid” to be here it is Mr. Livingston himself who seems to be making an nice piece of change stirring the pot.

        Rob

      • RichE

        Go Flashy! From now on I’m only reading your comments and the replies they summon. Everyone else is so boring!

      • securityman

        I think that flashy and “bubba” robert smith should get together, head to obama country, and go to work for the one that they so seem to admire.Or maybe, that is what they are doing here now? They seem to be the exact type of people that obummer wants around him. “IDIOTS”

      • Kate8

        RS – Can I prove these things? Well, there are many who have come forward with the membership lists to an exclusive Chicago bath house, and his name is on it. People have come forward, information has been unearthed right and left, posing great risk to those who do the work.

        Need a link? Do the research yourself, because I don’t have time to indulge your weak mind. I don’t care what you think.

        You choose to believe what your icon and his minions spout, despite all of the evidence to the contrary. That only proves that you have no credibility.

        Me thinks thou dost protest too much. I pose the same question to you: PROVE IT.

        I know you can’t.

      • Ted Crawford

        Flashy
        If you can assemble such a case about either of them please feel free to share that with us. Based on verifiable facts not rhetoric and innuendo!

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Kate – you have to admit it must mean the PL is making quite a threat somewhere that the left feels the need to pay people to post — if flash is the best they got, they are in trouble – smith – I think he’s just some sort of ego that needs to primp continuously…neither are taken seriously on this site.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Flushdouche! Quick, somebody grab the plunger!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Falsy, what conspiracy? Much of what Mr. Livingston mentioned in the article has been openly discussed with multiple references cited for several years now…the only conspirator is Obama and his lemmings. His Marxist radical ties are well documented. Community organizer ..trained in the Alinsky school of radicalism. Bill Ayers/Weather Underground? Jeremiah Wright? Frank Marshall Davis? ACORN? The Joyce Foundation and the Woods Fund?

        Here’s a nice little piece on Obama you may want to check out written for CBS NEWS by Stanley Kurtz.
        http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-215_162-4145761.html

        OOPS, forgot to include the puppetmasters pulling on the strings.

        Just curious, how’s your research coming along? Are you finding that this bunch at PLD is a tough nut to crack?

        Stick around though…you do make us look good! :)

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Robert Smith

        Evidence from the Rezko trial of Stuart Levine, an Obama associate, giving ongoing drug parties for his male friends.

        Actor Kal Penn, purportedly bisexual, being rumored as one of Obama’s boy toys.

        Reports of Obama and Rahm Emmanuel frequenting Man’s Country in Andersonville, a bath house.”

        “President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Libertytrain, a big AMEN for your comment!

      • speedle

        Let’s just cut to the chase here Flashy, and not fight over the anecdotes. Do you believe that the Chicago political machine that spawned Obama (as well as numerous other public officials, elected and appointed that are currently working on license plates) is just an example of good old traditional American politics, or do you recognize that it is the most corrupt political organization and culture in the U.S.?

      • Michael J.

        Flashman and the Mountain of Light,
        Kind of ironic that you accuse Bob’s work as being fiction, when your own namesake existed only in the mind of George McDonald.

        Those out there who are already aware of the paid bloggers who parrot progressive party politics propoganda for paychecks, should also realize that while they have been rumored to be here to disrupt conservative discussion, it is not their main focus. Their focus is instead to aggravate individuals in the hopes of extracting damning comments which will be used to enhance growing DHS portfolios on the unsuspecting commenters in a carefully orchestrated lie that conceals a lie. (You don’t think their paid just to annoy us?)

      • Kate8

        Michael J. – Yes, I am aware of that, as well. Thanks for saying it.

        I didn’t bother because I knew I’d just be accused of paranoia.

        What do you think is the reason for the hundreds of millions of rounds of mega-ammo purchased by DHS and the depts of wildlife and wildlands (whatever they’re called. It’s not coming to me right now)? Ammo that is illegal to use even by the military in war zones.

        Could they be planning to have even more powerful arms than our own military? Just in case they have any notions of defending the citizenry against the NWO?

        Bullets that penetrate the impenetrable? And are always deadly?
        (What kind of manufacturer would accept such a contract? Wow. People will sell anyone out for a buck.)

        How’s that for paranoia, eddie, RS and flush. Go ahead, give it your best shot. So to speak.

      • Bluebluesdancer

        @Kate8 Regarding your suggestion that Obama belongs to a Gay Bathhouse and is therefore Gay (although if he was it would be none of your business, and you should probably be grateful since Gay men tend to be very intelligent and creative): The only ‘evidence’ on-line are a series of articles claiming it to be true but with no evidence whatsoever, and bearing in mind that every single website is a Republican “anti-Obama and anti-American” propaganda website, I am surprised that you were so easily duped. But perhaps it is because you are a bigot? In which case it all becomes clear to me.

      • Michael J.

        Bluebluedancer,
        What a queer thought straight out of the blew, that Larry Sinclair is a liar, and that barry’s other significant brothers are dead liars.

    • Windrinker

      Great article! We do have a Mafioso Don running America. I think it is clear how this 2012 election will be fought (IF there is an election at all.)

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        From what Bob said Windrinker, I’d be kinda nervous if I was Mitt right now!!! As a “Bible believing” Christian, I’m looking at a presidential race between two men (I think!), one who claims to be a Christian, but is probably a Muslim practicing “Taqiyya”, and a heretic! Just great!!! Even so, come Lord Jesus!!! That’s Whom I’m waitin’ for, I believe He’s gettin’ ready to step in and straighten this ENTIRE mess out! I prat that you’re ready, cause the way I read THE BOOK, it’s almost closin’ time!!! What’d ya say Dandy?!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T6bXYp-R9Q

      • Robert Smith

        Tom says: ” I believe He’s gettin’ ready to step in and straighten this ENTIRE mess out!”

        Done that, been there. Your brutal god allegedly wiped everyone out except Noah and his family. BTW, there’s no physical evidence of such an event, only the literary one in that there christian bible.

        Kinda extreme if you ask me.

        Rob

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Proverbs 16:4 (KJV)
        “The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.”

        And just who am I to question His omnipotant wisdom Bob?!! I can call ya Bob can’t I Robert? Did you know that the Dr. Smith character on TV Land’s legendary 60′s pop-icon show “Lost in Space” was TV’s very first implied homosexual?! I believe the character’s first name was also Robert! Imagine that!!!
        I’d be a little nervous also Bob, the Bible say’s that hell is a place where the fire is NEVER quinched and the worm dieth NOT!!! Could you even imagine?!! Jesus loves ya Bob!!!

      • Kate8

        Tom W. – satan’s diciples have no concept of Who God Is. Only a small and foolish mind could make statements such as that.

        The Bible says that, to those who read Scriptures without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, they read as “so much foolishness”.

        Nuff said.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        rob rob rob, poor guy, there was a flood, there are actually many links out there, but I found this one interesting – it may not have been the flood as described in Noah or the other stories, but the time period was most likely correct and devastated the world as they knew it 7,000 years ago.
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2000/sep/14/internationalnews.archaeology

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Robert, this ones just for you!

        Saul Akinsky’s Opening page – Dedication from Rules for Radical:

        “Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history… the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        spell check – Alinsky

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Nuff said Kate8!!! We still gotta try and tell ‘em though, or we’re not doing as commanded!!!

        Mark 16:14-16 (KJV)
        “Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. ”

        2 Timothy 4:1-4 (KJV)
        “I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables”.

        They ain’t going to be able to say on THAT DAY that ole’ Tom didn’t try and tell ‘em!!! They are and will be WITHOUT EXCUSE!!!

        Romans 1:18-25 (KJV)
        “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.”

        Nuff said, NOW!!!

      • Kate8

        Tom W. – True, but it is apparent that they’ve heard and refuse to listen. There comes a time when they have to take responsibility for themselves. Once they’ve heard, we are not responsible for their hardness of heart.

        God will not be mocked. They have to choose, just as we do.

      • Bluebluesdancer

        @Kate8
        True, but it is apparent that they’ve heard and refuse to listen. There comes a time when they have to take responsibility for themselves.
        *My point exactly Stammering-Kate! Stop relying on a fictitious creature to take responsibility for what is actually your DUTY to do! You religious nut-jobs are so weak! You cannot take the brain that you have and use it positively and effectively for the good of mankind! You are an embarassment to the Human Race, and if your god existed, you would be an embarrassment to him too with your puerile reliance on his ‘mercies’. Get up off your bloody knees and be responsible for your actions! Do something Good for the world and stop being so freakin’ selfish!*
        Good Grief, I can’t believe how this whole sick group just loves to wallow in it hypocrital, bigoted and disgusting slop that does nothing but aim to create a world of mean-spirited and horrible people. If you truly think of yourselves as Christians, How can you possibly justify your thoughts and actions!!!??? A-MAZING!

      • Joseph Murphy

        If you want to know more about who Obama really is, then read “The Mancurian President”

      • Kate8

        Blues – Wow. And you called ME a bigot?

        Just what do you call that rant against Christianity?

        I won’t even dignify that nastiness with reply. You wouldn’t understand, anyway.

        You libs are such hypocrites. I feel very sorry for you. You are obviously a miserable person.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Bbdancer says “My point exactly Stammering-Kate”.

        Bbdancer is just another Alinskyite…

        Rule 4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You
        can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own
        rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

        Rule 5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        You’d better pray to God you’re right Blubluesdancer!

      • Deerinwater

        what kind of twisted response is that?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Prayerfully one that will make Barack’s wannabe boyfriend think Deerinlacepanties!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

      Hey Sirian, shall we get deputized?!! Somebody round up the horses! Are ya with us FF?!! How ’bout the rest of yas?!! LET’S ROLL!!!

      • Sirian

        Tom W.,
        With the way things are going there will probably be mass swearing in ceremonies – I’ll be there, my wife too!! HA, we own one horse and have access to about sixty – there’s plenty down here in Okie territory. . . ;) Once things finally collapse, if it continues on the same track that it’s on now, Oklahoma and Texas are not going to be liberals preferred areas of migrating to, follow my drift?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Here ya go Brother Okie, I’d never heard of this guy till a friend wife let me borrow his CD, he’s awesome!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0eoE9mi9iw

        He also does a cover of the FULL version of “Home on the Range” I know you’d love to hear Sirian! I tried to find it on Youtube, but it wasn’t there, but it’s ALL GOOD cause this one was!!! Keep your eyes on the skies, He loves y’all and so do I!!!

    • Mirage

      Hey Bob, I have just two words to describe your article … it sucks.
      Your article is just a multi-page hate rant filled with nothing but speculation.
      Pretty shoddy for a “journalist”. Whatever happened to the journalistic code of being somewhat objective?

      You throw around words like Marxist, Mafioso “Don” , and tell us that Obama is an illegal alien, and a guy who probably ordered the murder of some people!
      Bob, WTH?
      Are we supposed to believe that in 2008 candidate Obama threatened then President Bill Clinton, at the time the most powerful man on earth, and suggested that Bill’s daughter would be “next” if Clinton didn’t essentially stop rocking the boat??? You are asking us to BELIEVE that a junior senator THREATENED A SITTING PRESIDENT AND WON!??
      That is off the reservation crazy!
      News flash: “The Manchurin Candidate” was just a movie.

      Regarding the Supreme Court being bullied … correct me if I’m wrong, but when they voted 5 to 4 in favor of the “Citizen’s United” case, didn’t that open up the corporate flood gates that defined corporations as essentially “people”, and place NO limit on campaign contributions?
      Lastly, how about simply sticking to the facts and presenting a counter argument to this president that is grounded in reality, versus your little shop of horrors tool box replete with it’s anti-commi hyperbole?

      • Kate8

        Mirage – Don’t stay here on our account.

      • Kate8

        Mirage – Many, many of us are fed up with this imposter. And fed up with his enablers, like you, who just refuse to connect the dots.

        If you choose to remain in liberal la la land, well…enjoy your stay. The rest of us have work to do. And this administration is so over the top, out of control…

        Well, hey. All bets are off. We aren’t going to be intimidated by your liberal PC nonsense anymore. Get used to it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.

        Mirage, what an appropriate post handle! Because that’s deffinately how ya see things!!! Better get the Vaseline off the lenses of your “Blind Boys of Alabama” Wayfarers there Miragie! What has this man achieved in his SHORT time as a senator from the arguably most corrupt state in the union done deserving of the priviledge to serve as our Commander and Chief ?!! NADA!!! And how dare this half-breed threaten America’s true first black president!!! It just goes to prove how powerful the forces are behind this “Manchrian Candidate”! He didn’t end up on the list of people who either disappeared or suffered an untimely death as of a result of crossing Bill and Hill’s path!!!
        I believe this Harvard law professor is getting ready to recieve a lesson in the power behind our Constitution for his out of touch comments as to the authority of our SCOTUS! Let us pray that he’s either impeached outright or taken down a notch or ten!!!

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Mirage,

        You write: “Hey Bob, I have just two words to describe your article … it sucks.” Thank you for a cogent rebuttal.

        You write: “Your article is just a multi-page hate rant filled with nothing but speculation.” There is no speculation here. I sourced all points.

        You write: “Pretty shoddy for a “journalist”. Whatever happened to the journalistic code of being somewhat objective?” I make no claim to being a journalist. I am a columnist and researcher and I write fact-based opinion.

        You write: “You throw around words like Marxist, Mafioso “Don” , and tell us that Obama is an illegal alien, and a guy who probably ordered the murder of some people!” That is correct.

        You write: “Are we supposed to believe that in 2008 candidate Obama threatened then President Bill Clinton, at the time the most powerful man on earth, and suggested that Bill’s daughter would be “next” if Clinton didn’t essentially stop rocking the boat??? You are asking us to BELIEVE that a junior senator THREATENED A SITTING PRESIDENT AND WON!??
        That is off the reservation crazy!” Bill Clinton was not president in 2008.

        You write: “Regarding the Supreme Court being bullied … correct me if I’m wrong, but when they voted 5 to 4 in favor of the “Citizen’s United” case, didn’t that open up the corporate flood gates that defined corporations as essentially “people”, and place NO limit on campaign contributions?” Non sequitur.

        You write: “Lastly, how about simply sticking to the facts and presenting a counter argument to this president that is grounded in reality, versus your little shop of horrors tool box replete with it’s anti-commi hyperbole?” I did here, and I do with every column I write.

        Finally, I find it fascinating that you have not proven any of my contentions false, nor even attempted to.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Kate8, a few of your most endearing traits are close to my heart…call it as you see it, tell it like it is and there ain’t an once of PC in ya!

        “Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.”

        Bob Livingston…thanks for this wonderfull and eye opening website!

      • Wyatt

        Mirage I hate to spoil your time line , but Bill Clinton was not the sitting president in 2008 . He was merely an Ex-president . And yes , Obama and his mob of Communist / Socialist thugs and gullible useful idiots would dare to threaten anyone they see as an impediment to their goals and agenda . They have but one mindset and that is to destroy America anyway possible in order to impose their will upon the world . That their glorious utopian society collapsed after a mere 70 years of tyranny over the Russian, Slavic and , Asian population they encompassed . It never sat well that America was the leader of the free world and still going at age 238 y

        There is questions of Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of president to be sure . Just as there are questions concerning his true religion , his sexual orientation and many other things . As for his eligibility , investigation has raised more questions than it has answered . It would seem that not only are the birth records released by the White House suspect and apparent forgeries , but his SS# or #s come under suspicion and his draft card is apparently a very poor quality forgery . These are questions I think reasonable American’s would want answered . Especially when Obama himself states in his book that his father was a Kenyan, and never was a citizen of the US nor had ever tried to become one. The Supreme Court ruling of 1875 as to what a natural citizen is , states that it is the natural offspring of two citizens , either natural or natualized .

        Then there is an AP article from 200s I believe or 2004 when Obama was seeking a Senate seat that refers to him as ” they Kenyan born Democrat “. How odd , if this was a mis-statement by the AP , why was it not caught and corrected or challanged then . If not by Obama or by the Democratic Party . Especially as the article refers to him as being considered to be ” a rising star in the Democratic Party.”

        The sheep will deny and in Obama fashion blame everybody and deny what they will but the fact remains , Nothing about this guy adds up . A Constitutional Lawyer who clearly does not understand the Constitution and hates its very existance . A document he took an oath to uphold and yet he attacks it at every chance and tramples on it at will .

        As for not accepting a black man as president , why is he a black man , why isn’t he a white man ? After all his mother was white ? And for that matter , why have we never had a Native American president ? Native American people are every bit as good and or intelligent as blacks or whites . Just because Andrew Jackson decided to steal lands for his friends and move southren tribes west to what is now Oklahoma . And later when westward expansion made land given to the Native American people became valuable it was stolen by Democrats trying to curry favor among the American People . They forced the Native American onto reservations , for their protection they said . Reservations on land that was of no value arid or wastelands . This was then the 19th century of course but the the tactics are not that much different than now . Con a trusting people . Take control anyway possible . It works as there is always people that believe the message they spout . But then they always fail to see the one who wants to take it a step further . The practice of defrauding the American people is an old one that Democrats like to engage in , “the New Deal , the Great Society , Hope and Change ” all fancy names to cover the intent . Socialism , Control . The only people who benefit are the Democrats in control . Look at Nancy Pelosi , she does what is basicly insider trading . She makes a lot of money yet for doing a lot less Martha Stewart getsto years in jail .

        Obama wants a dictatorship , failing that he will destroy America anyway possible . Democrats want a one party government , their party or as it should be called , thwe Communist party . they think that the American People are to dumb , to ignorant to govern themselves . The government must hold our hand and lead us along . Time to wake up America . The Thugs are taking control !

      • Mirage

        HEY BOB LIVINGSTON – HERE IS A REBUTTAL:
        I don’t have all day to spend here online, so I have a tendency to process what I’ve read here, and crank out a response.
        First to all, MY Huge Chronological Mistake where I refered to Clinton’s presidency in 2008, … my apologies. I remember the Clinton years of ’92 through 2000, but nevertheless, it was my mistake … I own it.

        Now, I still contend, the likely-hood of junior senator Obama threatning the ex-prez in 2008, and then the latter withdrawing in fear for his daughter, is laughable.
        Can I prove it? No, but neither can you, which brings us to something you wrote in your response to my post.
        In your 3rd paragraph, you write your research is “fact-based”. Yet in the last paragraph of your rebuttal, you write, my “contentions” … which is it, what you base today’s article on, facts, or contentions?
        If you have facts, Obama’s birth certificate for example (have you physically seen it?); perhaps you would be so kind as to post the photograph online here with you holding it, for all to see?
        Ditto your “marxist” claims regarding Obama … do you have physical evidence to support your claims? If so, what is the evidence? If not, perhaps your article is primarily “contention”, versus “facts”?
        All for now – gotta go.
        Best Wishes.

      • Carl Manning

        Here you go, Mirage. After you read this, you will realize your view of American politics has been, indeed, a MIRAGE. You will not find it to be your desert oasis. Don’t take it from me or Bob Livingston or anybody on this website, regardless of political persuasion; take it from a former Russian intelligence officer, turned CIA intelligence officer, turned American patriot, Mikhail Kryzhanovsky…

        http://www.pooler-georgia-homepage.com/mikhail-kryzhanovsky.html

      • Joseph Murphy

        The book about Obama is called “The Manchurian President”, not “The Manchurian Candidate”
        whoever you are, you do not read correctly

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003309707389 Tom W.
    • http://TheTownhall.com TLC

      I watched the entire video. The lame stream media will never mention word one of this!

    • BillSharma

      Perhaps it will serve people in this environment will remember their icon of freedom Former and late president who with a single stroke his pen wiped out the family farm and broke the back of the working man and woman in this country by decertifying the PATCO. These yahoo have no memory and they call themselves patriots and conservatives, it will serve them well to read the history of the labour movement and health safety in workplace along with the affordability of the healthcare. These people have no idea of the blatent disregard of the megacompanies to simple remedies,like emergency doors were routinely locked or building schools on top of toxic chemical dumps or building whole subdivisions on landfills. People like Sirian need to read the industrial history of the American Industry and their rights they so freely enjoy were paid with the blood the labor and the liberal they so passionately hate. I have only one word for them SHAME.

      • George E

        Bill,

        Most of us don’t want or need labor unions in our work places. Further, we don’t want to fund the lavish pensions and salaries of those who are in unions with our tax money. I’m sure labor unions have done some good over time, but their time has largely past. Our companies have too much government regulations on their backs as it is to compete well in the global market. Workplace injuries are low and salaries are not too bad. Get out of the way and let the market work. We will do better over the long run.

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