Thats what I’m talkin about.

Yeah…and people living around there will really enjoy the lead bouncing off the walls as you get yourself killed. And if you’re lucky enough not to get killed…hope you smile as you pay for the attorney showing you had just cause…and defending the lawsuits from people suing you for being whacked to the point of shooting the place up endangering them and their families

You watch to many movies girlie-man. Bullets don’t bounce off of center-mass. A head shot doesn’t count for boo at the range but it’s bullseye on the street. But you don’t even understand what I’m talking about,because I’m guessing you have never even held a weapon much less trained or fired off anything other than your mouth.

yeah gunny…as if most people will hit what they aim for using a handgun while panicking or rushing the shot.

C’mon gunny…look around you. Can you honestly say you trust those people knowing how to use a gun? Seriously??

As to those who would say ‘But i would because i know what I’m doing!’

Uh huh …and the fish grows bigger each time the story is told …

I know that the alternative to not being prepared is being a victim. All anyone can do is to be as prepared as possible. Just being issued a permit is not the end of the process. Marksmanship is a perishable commodity. That is why most of us who really carry and I emphazise REALLY carry because a large percentage of people with permits don’t carry at all or seldom spend alot of time on the range adn doing situational awareness drills. The point is if the street crimminal thinks you could be armed he’s gonna give some thought to whether or not he should attack and if he does om most cases just showing the weapon is enough to deter an attack. Situational awareness is a key factor to not being attacked also. You have to travel and move around in this society smart and prepared.

Flasy-You are just an ignorant ass!

Well..we have Sy and Gunny stating they can do it every time…anyone else want to give assurances they would be ale to be accurate in gunfire in a rushed and panicked situation and have situational awareness?

Anyone believe Gunny and Sy assurances are ones to rely upon ?

Did you even read the post you moron. You have shown just how little you really know about this subject. You don’t have a clue what situational awareness is and why it’s important. It’s a tool used more to avoid confrontation than to start trouble. Those who read my post didn’t read any staement that I made any assurance. What were you reading?

gunny…of course I read it. Seems there are few who would be packin’ yet be willing to give assurances they’d hit what they aimed at every time and have the situational awareness to not endanger people.

Look..i pointed out people carrying guns in public is not a sane rational idea. I gave a the list of cities which have the highest violent crime rate per capita…and they are all in states which have lax gun laws. When i made my comment, before the list, I did state there may be a few exceptions where economic conditions were in the dumps ( I was thinking of Detroit etc).

OK..now what’s there to argue when the facts are before you?

This post is about concealed carry.Concealed Carry is not a lax gun law. Crime and Violence has existed since Cain and Able. Bad people do bad things,alweays have and always will. Concealed Carry has not been allowed that long. Being prepared and protecting ones family is perfectly sane and rational. You have no argument with me because I will not be a victim. Someone once asked me a question and I’m gonna ask you the same question. If you ever under any circumstance no matter where were confronted by person or persons intent on causing you or your family bodily harm or death,What would you do? I can tell you from first experience that the instinct for survival will trump your antigun,anti violence notions you think you have now. If not you will simply be another deer in the headlights. Stress some of which is brought about by drugs, love of money, loss of compassion and people unwilling to own their bad behavior have brought society to the brink of anarchy and if you can’t cope with it you will be a victim. Utopia doesn’t exist anywhere.

Flashy says:

i pointed out people carrying guns in public is not a sane rational idea.

You forgot to say “in YOUR opinion” and we all know what that is worth, especially from you.

Lets ask this lady if failing to carry a gun in public was a sane rational idea as you claim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

Or lets ask this store clerk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGOmtyTJ2f0

Or this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=J6gcFPjdwiI

Or this store owner who probably wish that he had the gun at his side instead of having to run for it. Bet he wouldn’t agree with your definition of sane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4Xqt62pf8

Or this lady who also was not carrying it. But it was close by. Bet she would have preferred to be wearing it that day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Ps1ZC1-Qw

I can find LOTS more of these on Youtube. Most are in stores cause that is where most surveillance cameras are.

Oh and lets ask these 2.5 MILLION people a year that chose not to be a statistic in Flashy’s anti-gun fantasies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-wBwpL-pIE

http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/noframedex.html

Why have you not heard of all these? Is the evil MSM who is well known for hiding relevant facts ( like a dispatcher asking Zimmerman a key question about Martin )
No. It is cause a crime DIDN’T happen so most people didn’t bother the police since there was no mess to clean up.

Every once in a while I will take pity on liberals and help them find counter arguments.
http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/103.myth0.pdf

I gave a the list of cities which have the highest violent crime rate per capita…and they are all in states which have lax gun laws. When i made my comment, before the list, I did state there may be a few exceptions where economic conditions were in the dumps ( I was thinking of Detroit etc).

With your credibility here I hardly think you would expect us to accept your list without a cite.

A cite will appear in blue text. As you see above all the blue text is links to one or more cites to give evidence to my list.

OK..now what’s there to argue when the facts are before you?

Some of us are still waiting for you to bring some facts to present before us.

Oh and for amusement here are some more facts.
Here are the 10 safest cities.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/09/safest-us-cities-may-suprise-you/1#.T32C8dXAnRg

The list probably comes close to flashy’s fantasy list.
Boston
Columbus, Ohio
Louisville, Ky
Minneapolis, Minn.
New York
Portland, Ore
San Francisco
Seattle
Tampa, Fla
Virginia Beach, Va

But when you read WHY you discover just how much fun you can have with statistics
First the actual content starts with “The 10 safest U.S. cities for families with young children…”

Then you limit it to the 50 largest U.S. cities.

Then choose 20 factors which include:
air quality, smoke alarm requirements, pool safety, bike helmet rules, fire response time, accident rates, Number of hospitals, number of police and firemen per capita

and my favorite

“It filtered out cities with the highest crime rates.”

That last post was getting pretty long so I broke it in half. This 2nd post may actually appear first cause the earlier post is in “moderation” cause I needed more than 1 cite to make my point to Flashy.

Now lets look at the city crime rates. (2011)
http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2011/City_Lo-Hi_2011.pdf

Next we would need to overlay the cities with the city or county blue/red statistics and maybe with the poverty index. Many many facts yet to be presented. It will give flashy something to do

Right On Vicki.
Gotta love the truth!

Flashy-You have got to be one of the most pathetic people I have yet heard of. You seem to have serious “Man” issues. All your responses involve testostrone…..which lead me to belive you, yourself, think you may be a bit short of that chemical so you attack in order to compensate for your own shortcomings. You have no rational arguments against anyone carring a gun other than “Makes you feel like a man”. Do you have this same response to Police or Soldiers? …oh, wait! Your going to say, “it’s their job”, but you completly fail to recognize how real life works. THAT is what makes you pathetic. I truly hope you never find yourself in a life or death struggle and the last thought through your mind will be….”They were right!. I should have had a gun”. But then again, you’ll probebly be thinking….”Where are the police? I called them 10 minutes ago!…..HELP!!”

LOL! Nothing like a quote fron a fictional character.

Dang Flashy, you’re just full of yourself today…or is it something else you’re full of?…My vote goes to the latter.
Could it be that you just angry because many of us have “lead” in our pencils…and you don’t even have a pencil? You also seem to be suffering from testicular envy…..grow a pair (of your own).

They call them girlie-men. LOL!!!

You guys have your guns at hand so you feel safe making those comments? GUFFAW ….

Not to worry girlie-man I wouldn’t even need a firearm if eveyone was as spineless as you.
You have no argument other than being ignorant of the facts about concealed carry and those who choose to carruy and people who own frearms in general. It’s not your fault you jdon’t know shinola.

“You guys have your guns at hand so you feel safe making those comments?”
I sure do…it’s a rubber band gun…and the next round has your name on it…. you….pesky cockraoch.

GUFFAW ….

I’m not afraid! In the immortal words of Yoda of star wars fame- “You WILL be Then it may be too late……… be”! One day you WILL face your “gotcha” moment………

You might be right Flashy but at least I won’t go out cowering in fear like a spineless coward. You might though.

No, but they dont have a pair either…

“But then, seems around here most folks don’t have low levels of testosterone…”

Just low levels of intelligence…and that’s apparent every time you comment.

Joe says: “No, but they dont have a pair either…”

Are you suggesting that women can’t defend themselves?

Talk about streotyping… But, that’s what I expect from the extreme right. Thank you for such a fine example, Joe.

Rob

Where in the NW? Rural area where hunting and fishing is everyday right? And you don’t pack in public right? Do you feel safe walking your neighborhood or would you feel safer knowing everyone you walked past was probably carrying a gun?

Pearls before swine DOC Pearls before swine.

By the way DOC this an idiots opinion not an intelligent argument or don’t you know the difference?

“This latest NRA stunt is as insensitive and as cruel as President George W. Bush making a joke about looking for the missing weapons of mass destruction under the furniture in his office.”

gunny, so you don’t think that President Bush’s joke about looking for the WMDs was insensitive to all those who sacrificed their lives for the war based on Iraq’s WMDs?

Well DOC, no matter what I think about it or the comment about the NRA it’s still
an opinion. Get it or are you still puzzled?

Flashy, I think you are only here to stir things up and for no any other reason.

gunny – taking the easy way out of answering my question. To answer yours; yes I do know the difference, I’m not puzzled.

No and yes as there are two parts to the opinion. Does that do it for ya Doc?

Of course Doc’s just being stupid…surprise. What does WMD have to do with anything in this tread? Nothing. Just an age old Marxist/Alinsky manipulation in an effort to change the conversation.

Jeff asks: “What does WMD have to do with anything in this tread? ”

It’s a clear demonstration of just how much the extreme right is willing to lie and how insensative they are to the reality of America.

Rob

Exactly.
I have an NRA conceal carry parka. There are also shirts, shorts, pants etc.
None of this is new.

See: “Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of Appeals (equivalent to a state supreme court) case that held police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals, even if a dispatcher promises help to be on the way, except when police develop a special duty to particular individuals.”

For the horrific details see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

Remember, when seconds count the police might be there in minutes.

Rob

You are absolutely correct but liberals don’t understand that concept.

Try dialing 911 and explain your problem, when you may only have seconds to live?
We have to make decisions,split decisions in all cases, have to be the right decision. When someone assaults you, or has broken into your house, by all means, call 911!?
If, you have time!? If not? I would strongly recommend, you, to defend yourself!
Woody Hays once said when throwing a pass, three things can happen, I’ll let you do the math!? Hint: two are bad.

Gunny, gunny, gunny… You posted: “You are absolutely correct but liberals don’t understand that concept.”

Thank you for your support but…

If I remember correctly you have called me a liberal on several ocasions.

Guess your labeling just doesn’t work in real life.

Rob

These posts are beginning to run together for me because I keep hearing the same old tired rhetoric from poeple like Flashy and others whose only goal here to stir up trouble. If I did call you a liberal and your not I apologize. That being said, IF the shoe fits wear it with my blessings because at my age patience with idiots no longer exists and it has become increasingly more difficult for me to give a rats ass. Just sayin! Anyway there are worse things than being called a liberal or a conservitive. I got thrown out of a liberal forum who supposedly prided themselves on being fair and quote ” looking for “intelligent dialoge” between them and us. They said I was too conservitive which is way off base.

My response wast to this post by nam1. Are you nam1?

“The police are not obligated to protect you, they deal in POST RESPONSE, Keep carrying!”

These posts are beginning to run together. If I called you a liberal and your not my apologies to you.
However IF the shoe fits wear it in good health. There are worse things than being called liberal. I’m sure your aware of this. IF you are indeed bent toward the liberal agendea then I would suggest a move over to Huffington Post so you can visit with like minded people.

And your comment Eddie shows that you are a race baiter in addition to being a socialist.

Yea but a “Socialist” is just a “Communist” in sheeps clothing IMHO!

eddie, your comment shows just what and ignorant liberal will say. You have no credibility, you’re on PLD probation and you just reinforced the reasons why.

You sound like part of that ignorant base who is rushing to judgement. Eddie only assumes I am talking about black people because he is a race baiter and a socialist but it would apply to you and anyone else promoting false information like doctoring the 411 tapes to promote racial tension. People like you won’t be happy until you have riots in the streets with your vigilante mentality.

It’s unfortunate that you made that assumption Bruce for where did I mention blacks? You seem to be the one invoking race baiting dude.

I think you mean 911 tapes and NBC should be boycotted by everyone for that blatant attempt to incite a race riot.

You might want to do a bit of research before spouting off more of your stupidity….notice that I did not say “more research”….because you obviously have done NO RESEARCH at all…..Keep spouting your daily MSM talking points as though they are Gospel…and maybe someday, you’ll actually convince yourself that you have a clue (picture that being true). I thought about giving you some links to work from, then I realized it was you..and you wouldn’t read them anyway (it’s all a right wing conspiacy, right?)…So, since you claim to be a bright boy, I guess you can do your own homework ( not that I believe you will).
If you don’t do any research…just come back and claim that you did…and that we are all wrong about everything….and make sure you don’t post anything to back up your claims…like you usually do.

If you can’t dazzle us with brilliance……..baffle us with BS.

here ya go Joe … most violent cities in the US as cited by “Best Places to Live”. Oh wow.. they are ALL in the South in gun packin’ states ! Who woulda guessed ?????

Large Cities (>500,000)

Tucson, AZ
Memphis, TN-AR-MS *
Miami, FL
Phoenix-Mesa, AZ
Little Rock-North Little Rock, AR

Medium cities (200,000-500,000)

Myrtle Beach, SC
Montgomery, AL
Laredo, TX
Waco, TX.
Wilmington, NC

Small cities (<200,000)

Topeka, KS
Pine Bluff, AR
Monroe, LA *
Alexandria, LA
Florence, SC

Nice try there lamebrain.
As usual (and as I predicted) no verification of anything you just posted…. Just throw it on the board….it must be true…right?
Maybe you should look into crime rates in oh….say, Chicago ( worst gunlaws in the nation) or maybe NYC…..gun restrictions….Or, how a bout Detroit, LA, San Fran?….According to you and your non-information….those must be the safest cities in the world…right?
Keep fooling yourself…because you aren’t fooling anyone else.
I have to wonder Flushy…Could you find your way out of a paper bag…if both ends were open?……I’m not placing any bets on that one….you could…. accidently…walk out.

Joe, i gave the site i garnered the list from. If you don’t want to believe it, not my problem.

I am familiar with Florida but not the other cities. From WPB south is very liberal and vote accordingly and that would include Miami. But you miss the point. It is the Federal programs that keep the poor without hope and any chance of a future. If you take away a person’s incentive you take away the person/

Flashy said: “Funny..with a few exceptions due to conditions being economic (manufacturers closed or moved)”…

Myrtle Beach? Industry has moved on??? What — Hillbilly Golf? What industry has movrd out of Myrtle Baech?

There is a valid reason why flashy has no credibility here.

Forbes – America’s Most Dangerous Cities
#1 Detroit, Mich.
#2 Memphis, Tenn.
#3 Springfield, Ill.
#4 Flint, Mich.
#5 Anchorage, Alaska
#6 Lubbock, Texas
#7 Stockton, Calif.
#8 Tallahassee, Fla.
#9 Las Vegas, Nev.
#10Rockford, Ill.

To compile our list of America’s most dangerous cities, we used the FBI’s uniform crime report for 2010

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngiuffo/2011/10/03/americas-most-dangerous-cities/

IB Times 5 Most Dangerous Cities In The U.S.
1. Flint, MI
2. Detroit, MI
3. St. Louis, MO
4. New Haven, CT
5. Memphis, TN

Flashy, you’re attempts to portray the south in a bad light has again shown us why you’ve no credibility here.
Just so ya’ know…this is how a cited link is supposed to
appear:
International Business Times list:5 Most Dangerous Cities In The U.S.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/320864/20120328/f-b-flint-detroit-st-louis-new.htm#page2

flashy, here’s one more for ya…just so ya know…one more time.

Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities In America
Even though crime in the United States has fallen for five straight years, we still are seeing areas of America where violence is getting worse! According to The Business Insider and FBI Statistics, here is the list of the Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities In America for violent crimes.

http://v1019.radio.com/2011/07/06/top-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/#ixzz1r6PXEEUt

Not that you’ll pay attention (or absorb anything for that matter) Flashy..but here…have fun…
By City:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6018a1.htm?s_cid=mm6018a1_w

By State:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_gun-crime-gun-violence

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/01/the-geography-of-gun-deaths/69354/

You’re not going to convince anyone here that Zoo York and California are red states.Only libs are that ignorant.

JeffH says:
April 4, 2012 at 2:42 pm
flashy, here’s one more for ya…just so ya know…one more time.

___________________________________________________________
Gee Jeff, I don’t understand why Flashy (the twisted idiot) hasn’t responded with some intelligent commentary and validation against your “facts”.
Maybe it’s because he can’t and like all Libs, he’s full of sh…

JC, and that’s the only reason why falsy’s eyes are brown.

Flashy says:

Funny..with a few exceptions due to conditions being economic (manufacturers closed or moved) i was thinking the most crime ridden cities are in Red States. Same with slums.

This is probably why you should do research before you try thinking. Yea I know it sounds like an ad hominem attack and I apologize but with all the links others offered combined with my own experience it became obvious that you were either lying or daydreaming about some liberal utopia somewhere.

Oh and someday you should consider learning how to post a link. Your claim that you referenced the source of your later posted conclusions did not parse very well.

From one of the violent cities lists: “Let us know and tell us if they are really as violent as this poll makes them seem to be!”

They are violent.

Most of the violence is related to the illegal drug trade. Note how they are generally at the intersection of two (or more) major highways on the way to big metro areas.

Take the money out of drugs and give women the means to protect themselves and problems will go down.

Read more: Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities In America http://v1019.radio.com/2011/07/06/top-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/5/#ixzz1rANZQxHm

Rob

What is the race demographic of those four cities?

I have been carrying a pistol 90% of the time over the last 30 years all over the united states and even snuck the in to canada when i used to run my truck up there Fyi I never had a permit and still do not , not coping to anything however if i did have to use it i would not hang around to tell anyone .

makes ya feel like a man eh?

Right Flashy, that’s why cops carry guns — lack testosterone.

Flashy, is her name N. Pritchard?

Cops require it for their job. They do place themselves in danger. Most sane people don’t purposely place themselves time after time in danger. Most people are never in a place where there is danger.

No…name was something else. She’s single and available. Want her phone number?

flash – wish she would read this – what you said about her – and see what a truly disrespectful absolute nothing male you must be.

Liberty…I’ll be glad to send her the link. She’d a) laugh at some of the posts; b) not give a darn.

She is available, she has a phone number. And I’m fairly certain she knows I wouldn’t give it out to gun packin lunatics.

you’re a tacky little man.

You sound like your living in CA with all the other nut jobs. Texas crime is on the decline becaise almost everyone carries a hand gun for protection. There was an incident not to long ago in a Texas bar where two men pulled guns to rob the bartender when they noticed around 20- pistals pointing at them……enough said!

Hay Flashy, if you haven’t lived in Texas, don’t knock it. The problem in Texas is te Mexicans. They all carry little .25 autos. The only way to protect yourself is have your own gun.

“I dated a woman this past weekend who came to the NW from Texas.”

A date?….with you? OMG, that poor woman! Where can we send donations to help with her mental health rehabilitation? My condolences to her and her family…May God grant them the strength to weather this tragedy that has befallen their child…….

(offensive attack comment removed)

Now Flashy I heard it was your sister. I was surprised because I did not know that Canuckleheads eh-holes dated their sisters.

Wow Flushy that was profound…who helped you compose that piece of literary genius…a two year old…or Pee Wee Herman?……”I know you are, but what am I?”
Psst…in the future, if you want to appear even somewhat intelligent…..try an original thought …just think (sorry, didn’t mean to push you into trying something new…too fast )…an entirely new sensation…original thought., Now go back to wooing your sheep….you’re such a Baaaaad boooooy……BTW,I heard from your Mom, that it works best if you put their feet in your boots…..at the edge of a cliff…they’ll do the work for you…..just trying to help make things easier for you .

Flashy — You really should look into the prospect of concealed carry! With your warped mentality, and your big mouth, eventually, you will need it!

You gave it a good try, Flashy. Atta-boy. Put here, at PLD, when you’re talking anti-gun smack, you’re barking up the wrong tree. You even lost your temper…my my, so unlike you! You must really be passionate about your dream to dis-arm Americans. Tell you what; if you don’t want to carry a gun, DON’T!

Mr. Livingston…how was that an “offensive comment” especially as compared with the comments of me both by Joe and by Gunny?

Dear Flashy,

If you have to ask then you are too stupid to understand. It’s quite obvious you were intending to stir something up.

Best wishes,
Bob

Flashy Said: “Most sane people don’t purposely place themselves time after time in danger.”
Aside from the fact that the statement is less than accurate,
I T O N L Y T A K E S O N E TI M E.

Mr. Livingston, thank you for the respectful professional response.

Just to confirm, stating one dated someone’s daughter, i.e. a normal date between two unrelated adults…is offensive. Making a comment about incest (i.e. dating a sister) is deemed appropriate.

Thank you

Are you kidding? really? Your gonna go there? Don’t wimp out eveyone knows you meant that as an insult. U are really an upright organ aren’t you.

Gunny…i stated a comment to Joe who it may have been as a comeback to his remarks …if someone wants to take it as an insult, so be it. I’d say Joe and yourself were specifically insulting … apparently Mr. Livingston and you disagree

You ment as an insult but you lack the manhood to admit it.

flashy, I can only imagine that she agreed to date you only after you bought her a couple of McDonalds hamburgers.

Somebody must pay you to be stupid or you’re related to eddie and jopa. sheesh!

Hey I read something on this sight about some hooker trin to trade nuk-nuk for a Big Mac.
Huh,makes you wonder don’t it.

flash it’s hard to back track and pretend innocence when you know what you said, you said it first and it was meant to inflame the others.

Flashy, may a day come when you and all the other anti-gunners “need a gun and NOT have one.”

Yeah,good one,a hoplophobic talking about a lack of courage.I see no reason to fear guns,or the people that legally carry them.But then,that lack of testosterone does tend to make people timid and fearful of loud things,right?

Flashy says:
April 4, 2012 at 8:09 am
I dated a woman this past weekend who came to the NW from Texas. She spoke about packin’ armor in texas. She felt she had to since everyone had a gun and she never felt safe. Since moving here, she’s sold her guns.
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Flashy you twisted idiot…
Are you using the thoughts of a paranoid person to justify your own twisted thinking?
Or do you just make this crap up as you go?

You’re (imaginary?) friend form Texas might want to know that rape and murder still happen…even where you live.

We had an incident a couple of months ago where a guy tried to rape a woman, and she was able to get away from him. Many are not so fortunate! The last set of statistics I saw indicated that 1 out of every 4 women will be raped at some point in their lifetime. That is a staggering statistic. Our Sheriff, Chuck Wright, went on record stating that more women should learn to shoot to take care of themselves, as well as taking care of these people that are out to do them harm. I ran across a car last night that had a bumper sticker in support of our wonderful sheriff.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3594998484399&set=a.1864772029819.106982.1556568701&type=1&theater

Flashy, I understand that you’re anti-gun. That is your right to be that way. I would, however, suggest you go to your local library and check out a book called “More Guns, Less Crime” by Dr. John Lott. South Carolina has seen a decrease in violent crimes since the implementation of our concealed carry program in 1996. Check out that book, keep an open mind, and think about what you’re reading. If you start to see from that point of view, even just a little, come on down to SC, and I’ll take you shooting. My wife is a CWP instructor, as well as a NRA Basic Pistol Instructor. Until you experience shooting, it can be scary. A gun is a tool in some people’s bag of tricks for self defense. I choose to carry.

Flashy, that’s about the most stupid thing I ever heard you say, while I admit, I don’t read very many of your posting.

I do agree, I think your Texas friend is a half bubble off plumb.

But, Texas is like many other states, Louisiana, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, we have grown up with gun, the need for them still exist. Maybe not so much in town, but in our great expanses, there is no law but there is 2 legged and 4 legged critters. ~ It’s up to the individual to provide your own security.

It’s nothing to do with penis size or manly. It’s just common sense. We carry ropes and a lariat as well, they are not for hanging but for controlling stock. A small 300 pound calf does not respond to voice command well and a 1500 pounder even less. They will just look at you and walk off.

Event come up without warning and these items are needed, no time to go home and get a rope or call the law.

Flashy says to Jimmy the Greek:

makes ya feel like a man eh?

He carries a firearm cause a policeman is to heavy.

Jimmy says: “I never had a permit and still do not”

Proud to be a criminal, Jimmy?

You are making it more difficult for those of us who DO comply with the rules to get a permit.

Rob

Deer – I think you made some good points that the flashy’s of the world cannot grasp because they have no experience or understanding of what occurs outside the little confines of their own world.

Robert Smith says:

Jimmy says: “I never had a permit and still do not”

Proud to be a criminal, Jimmy?.

Since laws infringing on Jimmy’s RIGHT to carry are unconstitutional and unconstitutional laws are null and void from their inception, jimmy is not a criminal for not having a permit.

You are making it more difficult for those of us who DO comply with the rules to get a permit.

Actually YOU are making it more difficult by complying with unconstitutional laws. Stand up for the Constitution and make government honor its contract with us.

Right on Vicki!
The Second Amendment is the only permit any American requires.
And it isn’t even a “permit”. It’s an enshrinement of out natural right to self defense.

Hey flashy, or is it flushy? You might go down to Texas and hang out in Laredo or San Antonio for a while and see if you feel the same after you get mugged while on the Riverwalk, a tourist area by day……once those Mexicans or other thugs rough you up maybe you might think twice about us carrying a deterrent. incidentally, I have carried for 18 years now with no incidents. Criminals can sense when you’re armed by your demeanor. I only had to show a weapon once, and the would be perp beat a hasty retreat…Never even took it out of the holster!

If as you indicate, you live in the NW, I guarantee you there are plenty of dangers in some of the bigger towns like Seattle or Portland, etc….Lotsa gun-grabbers though!

No Joe, I was a peace officer for 2 years. Criminals do stupid things because they think that they are “cleaver”, much like your feeble attacks directed my way, only make you the “fool” while you seem too stupid to realize it.

You only do yourself a disservice with your uninspired clumsy attempts to marginalize me Doug.

How old are you anyway ?

You need to do yourself a favor and give up trying to be so cleaver. Just tell us what you know for a fact as your thought process is lacking and in need of work. You lack experience and education for what you attempt to do. You remind me of Ben, attempting to be cleaver.

Now, if you like, I’ll devote more time to your posting if you would enjoy that? I’ll do what I can for you, but you need serious work! Try reading books! all kinds of books. There is hundreds of thousands of wonderful books that will take you many places and teach you many things.

“No Joe, I was a peace officer for 2 years”

Oh great…another procedurally trained …..half-wit…who would have guessed?

Is the name calling necessary?

It’s the kids buzzword for a sweater with attached hood. The name has been around for a while. I first heard the reference on a youtube video several years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie

vicki. it was a “tongue in cheek” question.
Funny though, all of my bad weather clothes and raingear have hoods on them and until recently I’d never heard them referred to as hoodies.

Since wearing a hoodie is perceived as a threat and justification for being shot dead in Florida and perhaps 26 other states, you NRA members who wear them should stay out of those 26 states – according to your analysis of hoodie wearers. And since most of the non-NRA hoodie wearers, or at least many of them, are kids, talking them out with your sidearms will certainly help control the population problems their mere existence causes. Fire away – plenty of examples the past several days.

I’m not amazed at the ignorance displayed by “absolutely amazed” comment. Why post it under vicki and my comment, considering neither one of us mentioned the NRA is this little exchange? I guess it is what one can expect to hear or read from an ignorant liberal.

absolutely amazed amazes no one by writing:

Since wearing a hoodie is perceived as a threat and justification for being shot dead in Florida and perhaps 26 other states

Perceived as a threat by whom? Are you still talking about the Martin case? If Martin was slamming your head hard into the concrete over and over would you NOT consider that a threat?

Oh wait. Never mind.

plenty of examples (of people wearing hoodies) the past several days.

Yet you have not come up with a single example in the last 100+ years of anyone shot for wearing a hoodie (not even Mr Martin) though I bet if you wore the wrong color hoodie in certain parts of Calif you might well be risking being shot dead. Certain gangs have been known to be aggressively defensive of certain colors.

Absolutely says: “talking them out with your sidearms will certainly help control the population problems their mere existence causes.”

I know how to stop it!

Call the shooting a “post-natal-abortion.”

Then the extreme right will try to protect the BORN kids.

And there’s more! Maybe one of them will take out Zimmermon as a post-natal-abortionist. Wouldn’t it be great if they solved their own problem! Maybe it woudl be even cooler if they shoot Zimmerman dead in church… But wait, that’s already been done.

Rob

Robert Smith says:

Call the shooting a “post-natal-abortion.”

Then the extreme right will try to protect the BORN kids.

They already do that. In this case they are siding with Mr Zimmerman when Mr Martin tried to perform a “post-natal-abortion” using a sidewalk instead of a coat hanger.

How do you figure that ??? “live in fear and ignorance , and care not for this country”

Actually, I need one to carry my -licenced- cell phone so that I can call a liberal for help if someone attacks me or a fellow citizen.

yea, yjat’ll wrok.

I don’t have fear, but I do have a right to protect myself and my family. Remember last year at the Wisconsin State Fair when white people were targeted and beat up just for being white? What about the guy that got hit in the face with a hammer last week (for being white)? It seems that racism is alive and well among the black community as well as the white community and while we should be uniting against the horrible condition our country is in, the mainstream media is further dividing us.

The hoodie is a good idea. An even better one is just to open carry so the criminals know right from the start that they will be shot.

The truth is that there is the way that you’d like the world to be and there’s the way that the world really is. Don’t confuse the two.

That was supposed to say
“Yea, that’ll work”
my trigger finger was ichy.

Well Flashy you better be very fearful of the street thugs that are packing! I have a carry permit and peace of mind knowing that if i need to protect myself or family i can do so! its my right and will do so if it comes to that!

Wow,guess you have never been burglerized,mugged,assulted,or raped or a family member.You would feel quite different after one of these.Im bearish on self protection.I,m a 60 yr old vietnam vet.If you were ever military you wouldn,t be saying this.

You can’t really believe this crap you spew? Cops aren’t there to protect you but rather bully and incarcerate. Is it a bad thing to take responsibility for you own well being? Or is it cradle to grave everything government?

No fear here!!! Just like the little old grandma stopped by the State Trooper. When he approached the car she said “Officer, I have a carry permit and I want you to know I have a loaded 9mm in the glove box. I also have a loaded .357 mag in my purse and a loaded 12 guage under the seat. Oh, yes I almost forgot…I have a loaded AK 47 in the trunk.” The trooper was taken aback and asked her, “Lady, what are you afraid of?” Her answer, “Not a damn thing!”

There are two types of people on this earth, sheep and wolves. Sheep believe and trust in government to provide for their physical security and in so doing, become easy prey for their protectors. Just ask anyone who has endured an oppressive regime .

flashy says, “Playing on the TP Trilogy of fear, hate and ignorance is the magic formula these days.”

I’ll say this about flashy: “Stupid is as stupid does” and you have no credbility either.

NStar, very good!

Flashy says:

Playing on the TP Trilogy of fear, hate and ignorance is the magic formula these days.

It’s worked for gun-control advocates for a lot longer so it must be a (liberal) magic formula.

Have fun with your fashion statement showing you live in fear and ignorance and care not for this nation.

I thought you were talking about the article. Apparently you are talking about all those people who are wearing hoodies (with the hood up) to show their solidarity with Mr Martin.

You must be one of those gay commie liberals. get the hell out of our country and spread your weak-kneed liberal commentaries elsewhere——– LIke the middle east or any other muslim bastion .

Flashy ou twisted idiot…
Afraid? hahahahaha

I know a guy who has just a whack of full auto rifles and pistols, he carries open and concealed…

Ask him what it is he’s so afraid of and you’ll get one word…”nothing”.
It’s you idiots who do your best to feel all smug and superior (and fail) that are so afraid.
AND THAT’S WHY YOU WANT ALL THE GUNS TAKEN AWAY, because you’re a bunch of bed wetting liberals.

Hate to tell you Flashy: the NRA catalog with the hoodies were printed long before the Travyon Martin case ever happened. They’ve had hoodies in their catalogs for several years including the CCW hoodie, the “Frontline” hoodie, “NRA Antiqued” hoodie, zippered hoodie, “Gadsden” hoodie with the “Don’t tread on me” snake. They are all NRA products available for order and have ZERO to do with the case in Fla.

shavager don’t confuse administration shill Flashy with the truth it will make his head hurt.

Gun control is when a women draged into an ally raped, stabed, & chocked wiht her own pantie hose is morally superior than a woman who has to explain to a police officer how her attacker got a fatal bullet wound. Isn’ that a shame.

There must not be any crazy neighborhood watch captains out there cause with all the people wearing hoodies with the hood up since the rabid publicizing of a local incident I have yet to hear of any more folk being shot by anyone while wearing a hoodie.

Unless one of the unfortunate people in that Oakland University was wearing one.

I LOVE that one Pat!!! RIGHT ON!!!
You really made my day~~~thanks!!

Or, if you want to look like someone who wants to wear something simple to keep warm…

Claiming someone “lookins like a criminal” just because they don’t look like you is simple bigotry.

Rob

Hate to tell some of you folks out there–there’s a problem when you’re wearing a hoodie in 85-90 degree weather and you’re in a convenience store or bank or walking around in somebody’s backyard with your hoodie on. This is Sanford, Fla., it’s a lot warmer in Sanford, Fla. at this time of year than even upper Fla. in Jacksonville or Tallahassee area on normal days. If this was mid-Dec. you might ignore it, but when folks are out in flip-flops, tank tops, sunglasses and shorts and you see teens/young adults with hoodies on–don’t you think that might be a little suspicious? The media is driving this story because it does NOT fit with their liberal agenda, hoping to drive opinion in favor of the candidate that 97% of them support and he’s shown his stategic plan is to divide on basis of race and class warfare.