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Poll: 20 Percent Of Republicans Would Vote Obama Given GOP Field

February 10, 2012 by  

Poll: 20 Percent Of Republicans Would Vote Obama Given GOP Field

A recent poll conducted by WND and Wenzel Strategies finds that in match ups against Republican Presidential candidates, about 20 percent of Republicans said they would vote for Barack Obama for President.

The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 1-3, 2012, and has a margin of error of 3.44 percentage points.

“The improvement in Obama’s prospects compared to the four remaining Republican challengers stems largely from two factors,” said pollster Fritz Wenzel. “First, Obama has largely avoided the political limelight while the GOP candidates savage each other with increasing intensity. Second, a smattering of evidence indicates that the economy is getting a little better, which helps the White House in the eyes of the voters. Secondly, the bloody fight for the Republican presidential nomination — by most estimations the nastiest GOP fight in memory — has really hurt the images of the challengers in the eyes of both Republicans and, especially, independent voters. For Republicans, each candidate carries with them now some taint that cannot be ignored.”

According to the poll results, Obama would likely beat any Republican if the election were held today, though Ron Paul has the best chance of beating him. Obama leads Paul in the poll 44 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent undecided. Also from the poll, Mitt Romney is within single digits of Obama, 48 percent to 41 percent, and has a commanding lead over Newt Gingrich, 50 percent to 36 percent, and Rick Santorum, 49 percent to 34 percent.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • M G

    Yes, if they do vote for O that would rove their stupidity. ANY of the GOP candidates would be a better choice than BO!!!

  • del

    And you folks believe this poll? Ok let me see you the Golden Gate Bridge!

    • kantstanja

      That’s really passé (even if it wasen’t spelled right).. People who choose to vote for whom ever they wish isn’t someone you can scam into buying a bridge.. Get over yourself..

  • labouton

    I’m not sure who the nominee will be with all the fraud going on in the primaries. Nevada and South Carolina have both shown voter fraud so how can any of these so called winners be called winners. These primary elections are a farce. IMHO it boils down to who ever the corporations, unions, media and the elite want in office, that’s who will be there. RP is the only one that can’t be bought. All of the condemnation against RP because of his stance on pulling the military out of these foreign countries isn’t shared by the military – they’re voting for him. They are the ones on the front lines and have seen what’s going on and they want it stopped. Maybe we should send all of those that are against his thoughts over there to replace the military. I bet they will change their minds before they get off the plane. My vote is for RP no matter what!

  • Professor

    Anyone who would vote for Obama is not a Republican. They are more correctly a socialist, communist, Marxist, etc. Any Republican candidate is a better choice than Obama.

    • http://20%Rep. Jack

      You have got that right

    • kantstanja

      So what are you implying? That anybody who doesn’t conform to you’re ideals is the bad guys but those who vote against Obama is the good guys? I think I heard that same cackle just before the last election.. Good Guys vs Bad Guys.. Hell, why not call those who want to vote for THEIR choice a commie Satan loving Nazi and those who vote you’re way a John Wayne full blooded American.. You and freaks like you are the one’s who are splitting up America. You praise ‘freedom’ then in the same breath, condemn those who think different from you… (without debate, without respect for their rights).. You’re nothing but a pathetic bigot..

      • Alex Frazier

        kantstanja, I hate to disagree with you, but Obama has deliberately moved our nation towards socialism, as recognized in the writings of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in The Communist Manifesto. His actions over the last three years have also dangerously resembled those of the socialist Nazi Party in Germany, and the communist Stalin in Russia. The only thing he has yet to do is declare martial law and try to forcibly take over the country, which looks set to happen soon with the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act that would allow him to gather up the malcontents as the Nazis once did.

        So it’s not a matter of someone conforming to anyone’s ideals. It’s about the fact that Obama is a socialist, and he is trying to turn our country into a totalitarian state. HE’S splitting up America, not those who are criticizing him. Therefore, it’s just a plain fact that if you vote for a socialist, particularly if you know his political platform and agree with that platform, then you are a socialist. And no true Republican would ever deliberately vote for a socialist.

  • tim

    RON PAUL 2012!!!!! HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!!!

    • CalGirl

      YES!

  • donald oesau

    Google agenda 21 to see where obama is coming from.

  • http://Personalliberty Tony

    To Everybody:
    The reason for this pitiful news is because the GOP field, with the
    exception of Ron Paul, STINKS!! This is going to be a cake walk for
    Obama this year. As stated before, i’m beginning to think this race is
    fixed for Obama to win another term, not to be a conspiracy theorist.
    Thanks!!

    • Larry

      Ron Paul is the only real choice to have any affective change why are the majority of republicans so brain dead?

      • WickedPickle

        Because their agenda is… “ANYBODY BUT OBAMA” …. This has been their battle cry for over three years and as the stampede continues, they totally ignore the one man who can not only accomplish THEIR goal but the goal of the American public. Foresight demands intelligence.. Hindsight isn’t as selective.

  • Larry B

    I think this poll is a farce. I don’t believe any republican will vote for Obama. Ron Paul doesn’t have the best chance of defeating Obama, because he will never be the republican nominee. I doubt if he will win even one primary.

    • Larry

      Shouldn’t you vote your ideals instead of trying to determine who has the the best chance of beating Obama according to what a phony poll? A vote for the less of two evils is a vote for evil.

      • NC

        Larry, just write in their name! Mission acomplished! Just like the last “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”

    • http://yahoo ted

      so true larry.

    • http://20%Rep. Jack

      He can’t make it because he dosen’t have ” the blood line” Look it up the blood lines of the Presidents

      • Alex Frazier

        Obama made it. What bloodline is he from? Perhaps Jefferson visited Kenya back in the 1800s?

  • Annie

    Yea, well, here’s the big big caveat about that poll. It was conducted by the Ron Paul pollsters. Come on folks……do they really believe that we are all a bunch of mind numb robots?

  • Angie09

    Not surprised based onthe clowns in the GOP running 4 president I would vote for Pres Obama. If I had a camera when folks go in the booth in 2012. More Reps will vote for POTUS and will lie and say they voted for the Reps fool.

    • Annie

      Why Anne? What, in God’s name, would induce you or anyone to vote for the LIAR-in-chief now? I can’t even begin to understand why anyone would have ever voted for the LIAR-in-chief EVER much less now after we have clear evidence that he wants to turn our beloved America into a communist regime with him as its dictator?

      And Anne, do NOT use that lame excuse that the GOP field is less than desirable for you.

      • NC

        Annie, Americans have memories and what happened from 2001-2008 was very unpleasant for a lot of people! Lost their jobs, lost their homes and lost their retirements! All while a Republican was in the White House. Why go back to a Republican Party Platform if that is the best it can do for our country?

      • CalGirl

        THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE INDEPENDENT AND LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATES INCLUDED IN EVERY ELECTION!!!!!

      • dfinch

        I also think that most americans know who had “control” of congress the last 2 years of the Bush administration and the first 2 years of Obama’s. Most also know that Bush tried early in his presidency to have Fannie and Freddie investigated. The democrats said they were healthy and side stepped the issue. The rest has been history. The rest was a domino effect.

      • 270 Win.

        dfinch, you are wasting your time with the lid lovers that write into this site. They cannot see the light, they are just plane gone. They got there hands out for there freebe’s. It is sad…

      • USAF VET

        NC, you silly Obummacrats seem to forget that George Bush had to put up with Dumocrats in Congress. Remember the Dodd/Frank bill that ended up making the housing bubble go “POP”? That’s what you get when Liberals are in charge. Look what we got from the King Obama, Prince Harry, Princess Nancy (leadership?). A lot of mandates that take Many of our freedoms away. Just look at what Obumski is doing now. Trying to force anti-religious mandates on churches and people of faith who do not want his freedom stealing policies.

      • Alex Frazier

        NC, our woes began with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, enacted under the Democrat President Jimmy Carter. They were later exacerbated in the mid 1990s under the Democrat President Bill Clinton through loosened restrictions by the Department of Housing and Urban Development to encourage GSEs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make it possible for first time home buyers to get loans they could not have previously gotten. Affordable Housing Credits were issued by the Department of Housing and Urban Development to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac beginning in 1995, still under President Bill Clinton. By 1996, the Department of Housing and Urban Development was pressuring Freddie and fannie to provide upwards of 42% of their mortgage fianancing to borrowers who wouldn’t otherwise qualify due to inadequate income, and this was increased to 50% in 2000 during Clinton’s last year in office. This large increase in MBS (Mortgage Backed Securities) through the GSEs led to the peddling and increased investment into subprime mortgage CDOs (Collateralized Debt Obligations) from 2000-2006, which ended with the subprime mortgage crisis, or housing bubble.

        Our problems may have come to fruition while a Republican was in office, but you kid yourself if you think that anyone but a Democrat was responsible. The Democrats dug the pit. The Republicans just fell into it.

    • tom s

      you must be either an idiot or a recipient of obama money…

    • http://yahoo ted

      why arent u getting enough entitlements already from obama.

    • http://yahoo ted

      angie are u re tarted? not much upstairs. say something smart once in a while or dont say nothing.

  • Stephen

    This piece does exactly what it is designed to do; get out the republican base to defeat King Obamir. It must be a scare tactic because it is so unbelievable that any republican would vote for this tyrant wannabe. There are more than 20% of democrats who are very disenchanted with the king as well which would make up any difference in the election the article proposes.

    Liberals have used underhanded tactics like this for a very long time. It’s good to see conservatives try to compete in a like manner and not let the liberal machine steamroll American beliefs. Americans must learn to weigh everything which is said to them by the “experts”.

    • Angie09

      Stephen based on what I see in the GOP Gong Show, if you truely believe that the Reps have a plan other then the old ones that have hurt the poor and the middle class, I feel sorry for you. Great to be ok in your finances, nothing agst having money and success, but the GOP do not have a plan for putting ALL people back to work, no plan to end wars that we should not be in. No plan to pay down the debt other make those who do not have more poor. I do not agree with all the POTUS decisions, but based on fact, not TV news or opinions of experts, I see that at least he has made the effort with out any help from the GOP. This congress is the worst since the 1930′s. Best of luck to you sir. I truely do not believe that most americans, Some REPs, Dems, and Independants know the real facts and who is FOR ALL American, not just a few.

      • Annie

        Angie, Exactly what universe to you live in anyway. Do you actually want all of us to believe that you are anything but a liberal/marxist troll for obama?

        obama has done nothing whatsoever good for America and he has engaged in the complete destruction of our beloved country.

        What is your agenda Angie? Are you too a liberal/marxist who is dedicated to destroying America – and don’t give us your blubbering hogwash about the poor and middle class. Since obama has taken over the people’s house (the White House) the poverty rate has grown by leaps and bounds and the middle class has diminished exponentially.

        Are you aware of the fact that you sound just like the followers of alinsky, stalin, hitler, lenin, mae tsetung, and all of those dictators who only wanted to rule the world?

      • NC

        Annie, have you ever looked at the figures of what was happening for the poor an middle class during the 1990s before george w. bush and his “I can do it better” attempt with trickle down fiscal policy and the recession that followed instead of the “surplus” he promised! It won’t kill you to take a look!

      • dfinch

        But you neglect to say Obama also made promises that’s he’s not kept about the deficit. He was going to balance the budget (?????) and retire the deficit. Last account he’s added $5 trillion more to it.

      • http://yahoo ted

        the democrates were the ones with running the housing failure.charlie rangel was on tv announcing in 2006 proclaiming fannie may freddy mac was doing fine and no worry. why bush gets blamed for that its beyond me.obama has spent more money and nothing has gotten done. by the way if he gets 4 more years there will be more people out of work. the company i work for is going to shut down. the owner says he wont be able to continue because he wont be able to afford obama care. i was in iraq and its much better off now then it used to be. god bless america.

      • Alex Frazier

        George W was a terrible president. Any man who would call the constitution a “g-ddamned piece of paper” has lost my respect from now until the end of time. But I do wish folks like you would stop placing the blame for every global tragedy at his feet. There was a recession, but there was also a national crisis; viz. the World Trade Center. And Katrina was close on the heels of that. When one considers the crises our country faced during George W’s administration, he did surprisingly well. I shudder to think what would have happened if we had had a weaker president in the midst of all that.

        That said, Obama has made more than his share of mistakes. The budget increase, and resulting deficit increase, is not George W’s fault. George W left office with only $4 trillion in national debt at the conclusion of two major disasters and eight years of war. Obama took it from $4 trillion to $16 trillion in barely three, with none of the viable excuses George W had. It’s not George W’s fault.

        George W disregarded the Constitution. I hate him for that. But Obama, from the moment of his election, including the latest outrage with the contraception in the Catholic hospitals, has passed or proposed legislation in violation of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 10th, 13th, and 14th amendments, in addition to violating his oath of office in Article II, §1, ¶8-9; deliberately turning our country into a totalitarian state in violation of Article IV, §4 that guarantees us a Republican form of government; bypassing Congress in his appointments as per Article II, §2, ¶2; writing and submitting bills that call for the raising of revenue, which, according to Article I, §7, ¶1 is exclusively reserved to the House of Representatives; and he has completely bypassed the legislative process laid out in Article I, §7, ruling this country by executive order, an authority not actually given the President of the United States as part of the Executive Branch in Article II.

        So let’s be real for a second. Our current president thinks he’s a king, and the Democrat Congress are a bunch of economic illiterates who have no clue of the financial wreckage they are making of our country with their out of control spending. Let’s give credit where it’s due. It’s the Democrats who are causing our present woes, not the Republicans.

      • http://20%Rep. Jack

        This just show you that the second law of thermal dynamics is alive and WELL.Read your BIBLE. It is in their

      • Sha44ss

        @ Angie09-You are a Kool aid drinker & a lover of Celebrity and you dont seethe krap right in front of your nose! The only EFFORT the president is making is to make the Congress look like ‘do nothings’ so he can bypass our Constition & become a Dictator! I dont WANT Congress to work with this Marxist Traitor.

      • RichE

        GOP Gong show. ROFL

      • USAF VET

        But it’s a better show than the Dem’s CLUNK Show.

  • John Carey

    Obama will get the votes he buys. Wake up America–and don’t let this man spend our taxpayer dollars to get himself re-elected. Obama wants to retain power. He mandates changes in this country and needs to be stopped now. Send him back to where ever he declares as his homeland.

  • Bobby

    Republicans LISTEN UP. Either nominate Ron Paul or get Obama for another term!!!

    • CalGirl

      I agree 100%!!

    • CommonSense4America

      If everyone that says “I’d vote for Ron Paul…BUT, he can’t win” would just vote for him, then Ron Paul would win in a landslide.

  • dusterdog

    Ron Paul will win in a land slide if the votes are counted as they are actually cast.He will draw from republicans,democrats & independents.The republican would get their hard core about 20% and the democrats would get their hard core about 25% and Ron would get the rest.If that is not a winner then I don’t know what is.

  • Margo Twisselman

    I must admit that I am surprised at this. If the poll can be believed. With the current assaults on the Constitution by the current president, I cannot believe any American citizen who has a brain, could vote for him. I lived near Chicago during his run for President. We heard the truth and it’s ugly. So, if you don’t care about freedom please leave and go to one of your admired countries like Cuba or South Africa. We want to be free!

    • skippy

      Margo, hey, if you KNOW something, please share.
      I do not live near Chicago…and all I ever heard was how GREAT the man is…so TALK girl!!!

    • Annie

      Thank you Margo and most of the ugly information about obama was available for ALL the American people to learn about. It’s just that they would have had to ferret it out themselves because and as we all know, the MSM was a major part of his campaign endorsers. The MSM were always going to conduct a huge and major “black out” about all things obama and they are still participants today in his re-election.

      It is up to the American people to learn everything they can about whomever they decide to vote for and especially liberal/marxist followers of saul alinsky.

    • skip

      The assaults on the Constitution are by the filibusterers in the Senate, who know one word and one word only – NO! They are the wreckers of the nation.

      If Eisenhower, one of our most effective Presidents, ran for President today, he could not run as a Republican, nor could Reagan – they would be well to the left of center today. Let alone Ford or Nixon. Where on earth have the Republicans gone – they used to be rational.

      • Alex Frazier

        Skip, the most predominant issue on the House and Senate floor right now, and over the past year or three, has been the budget, the deficit, and jobs.

        The Democrats have offered a single solution to the problem. Raise taxes. They may throw out this concession or that concession, but it’s always coupled with raising taxes. The fact is, they don’t want to cut anything. They think the solution is to maintain big government and bring the revenue up to match the budget rather than bringing the budget down to match the revenue.

        The Republicans have also offered a single solution to the problem. Cut spending. They too may throw out this concession or that concession, but it is likewise always coupled with cutting spending. The Republicans don’t want to raise taxes, period. They think the solution is to cut social and wealth redistribution programs to bring the budget down to match the revenue rather than bringing the revenue up to match the budget.

        When you have two opposing sides who both believe that the only solution to the problem is the very thing the other party deems anathema, it’s not possible to come to a compromise. It’s almost like someone having need of something, but every single proposition to provide help to that person comes with the contingency that they have to let the government give them AIDS. We’ll give you food, but you have to let us give you AIDS. We can provide public housing, but you have to let us give you AIDS. We’ll cut spending, but only if you let us give you AIDS.

        So don’t blame the Republicans. Both sides are doing the same thing. But of the two parties, the Republican solution is more to the benefit of the American citizen. I can honestly say from having been on both sides of the fence financially, the only people who don’t care if taxes are raised are the people who don’t pay them. And I don’t think they deserve a say in the matter unless it’s going to effect their own wallet along with the rest of us.

    • CalGirl

      Then please share it here.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLIniois

    This is a lot of bullcrap.

  • David in MA

    When they came for the Jews, I did nothing, for I am not a Jew. When they came for the Socialists, I did nothing, for I am not a Socialist. When they came for the labor leaders, the homosexuals, the gypsies, I did nothing, for I am none of these, and when they came for me, I was alone, there was no one to stand up for me. — Martin Niemoller, a Lutheran pastor from Nazi Germany

    • RichE

      Wow! Is that your opinion of the Republican agenda? That’s scary.

  • Greg

    GOP voters won’t vote for Obama and won’t stay home. They may not be enthusiastic as they might be with another candidate. Anything that says otherwise is a main stream media lie.

    • Bobby

      Greg,
      You’re dreaming! The people who truly elect presidents are not the Repub. or Dems. it’s the independents (the huge group of people who don’t subscribe to party rhetoric.) Wake up man, only Ron Paul appeals to this group. (or you can just keep your head in the sand, and keep on doing what the TV tells you to do – which will give Obama another 4. Fact.)

      • http://yahoo ted

        15% of the vote aint helping ron paul any

  • David in MA

    20%, YA, JUST ABOUT RIGHT FOR THE NUMBER OF RINO’S IN THE REPUBLICAN FIELD, WAS John McCain ONE OF THE 20%?

  • DON THE BRITTON

    The only hope is to force the nomination to the convention so a better candidate can be found.

    • skip

      God help us if they nominate someone like Mitch McConnnell – has anyone ever seen a village idiot any stupider than that guy? How did he ever get to the Senate? But Kentucky doesn’t do so good selecting its politicians – Rand was left short on brain cells as well. I’m a Hoosier, and we worried a lot about what was across the river, and these two prove the point!!!

      • http://gmail.com sancheleezy

        skip you do not seem to exceptionally discerning when it comes to understanding the difference between an old bumbler like Sen. Mitch McConnell, and a young more intelligent and perceptive Sen. Rand Paul. How do you compare both of them as being equals in the same sentence. Also why do you even state that the people of Indiana are more adept politically than anyone across the river in Kentucky ? It seems childish that you think that you are their moral superior as you must have a tinge of jealousy somehow directed against them. Bottom line is that we need to get a Constitutionalist elected as soon as possible and restore sanity to this Nation.

      • dfinch

        I sure have…Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

  • Donald D Jones ww2 vet

    If they said they would vote for Obama, they are not Republicans
    most likely they are one of the many Union Members recieving hand outs from the Obama Government. That is going to be Historyl

  • deanbob

    I wondered if they took the polls in Oympia Snow or Scott Brown’s states?

  • Dwight Mann

    Anybody but the Communist Øbama. . .

    • Bobby

      So you’d settle for the SOCIALIST Romney, right?!? real smart

      • http://yahoo ted

        obamas the socialist. where have u been the last 3 years

      • USAF VET

        Mitt Romney is a left thinking Progressive Moderate. He has said this himself, and his politics prove it. I just wish that the Left hadn’t brow beaten Herman Cain, and Michelle Bachman out of the race.

      • dfinch

        I don’t think Romney believes in redistribution of wealth.

      • gnafu

        But Romney would enforce ObamaCare the day after he was elected to President. Count on it! And, what is ObamaCare? Control of the People.

      • Larry Collins

        “So you’d settle for the SOCIALIST Romney, right?!? real smart”

        I certainly would, and it WOULD be “real smart”.

        I’m not too cool with the fact that Obamacare is based on a Romney plan, and on a lot of other things about Romney, but I’m damned sure not going to vote for Obama, OR for any third party candidate if my favorite Republican doesn’t win the nomination.

        “Principles” and making points can be expensive, and this is NOT the time to be wasting votes against Obama.

        You don’t even have to vote for Obama. Anyone who refuses to vote, or votes for a third-party candidate has voted for Obama.

        No third party candidate has any chance to win, and any votes they suck away from the main candidates will be sucked away from the republican candidate, so they might has well have voted for Obama.

        The number ONE issue is “Get That Traitor Out Of Control”.
        The number TWO issue is “Get That Traitor Out Of Control”.
        The number THREE issue is “Get That Traitor Out Of Control”.

        Everything else is WAY down the list.

        If Bill Clinton won the Republican nomination, I’d certainly vote for him, and THIS time around, be happy that he was elected.

        It doesn’t matter WHO actually becomes the Republican candidate, THAT is the person who needs the vote, for the most important 3 reasons.

        I firmly believe that Obama is actively trying to destroy the economy of America, because that will open the door for an actual Communist regime.

        If any Republican candidate takes us to that point, at least it won’t be due to an active agenda, which is rolling right on down the pike even as I write this.

        So Hell Yes I’ll vote for Romney, Gingrich, Paul, any potential candidate who is running against Obama, whether I like him or not, or approve of ANYTHING he does. Obama represents Rock Bottom. There is only “Better” available.

        The only thing worse than what we have is another four years of it. He can get his agenda accomplished by then, instead of halfway there as it is now.

    • http://yahoo ted

      thats right on dwight

    • ChristyK

      The problem with the “anybody but Obama” ideology is that all of the candidates except Ron Paul are almost identical in their actual governing philosophy. The Republicans, Tea Partiers, and even many independents have realized that Obama and his socialist/fascist philosophy is bad. Romney, Gingrich, & Santorum would govern in the same way, but say that they support the constitution and free markets. If they get into office, they will collapse our economy and destroy this nations faith in the constitution and free markets which will make our nation unfixable. If Obama gets into office, he will crash our economy and likely steal our freedoms, but americans will realize what is happening and rebuild America on the constitution and free-market capitalism. We will go through a terrible time and even possible civil war, but will return stronger. The only chance for avoiding a terrible collapse (worse than the great depression) is Ron Paul although he probably won’t be able to save our nation either if he doesn’t have a decent Congress. He will be able articulate what is happening and why just like he predicted the current mess.

  • Dwight Mann

    If RP is nominated 50 % of Democrats will vote for him, because he is against our Imperialist empire building fascist political war machine. . .
    IMHO

    • skippy

      Gee Dwight…..that was quite a mouthful!! :)
      And true too…
      RON PAUL 2012!!!

      • Bobby

        Ron Paul or Obama…period. Ron Paul supports will NOT vote for Romney, Santorum or Gingrich – truth.

      • Dagney

        Yep, that is what I was thinking. RP supporters, the anarchist type, would much rather vote for Obama than a conservative. Simply because they are more akin to fascist-types. So, that’s probably where these numbers come from that WND is supposedly reporting. Don’t forget who is conducting the poll. Polls are done to SHAPE opinion, not reflect it. So, this poll was done to dispirit liberty-loving Americans into not voting in November because, if this poll is correct, they would say, what is the point?

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Dagney,

        You write: “RP supporters, the anarchist type… because they are more akin to fascist-types.” Your comment is illogical. Please explain for me how anarchists and fascists can be the same thing. This should be interesting.

        And by the way, Ron Paul supporters (most of them) are not anarchists. They are Constitutionalists. Have you read the Constitution lately?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Dagney

        Bob: Meaning no disrespect to actual Constitution-loving Ron Paul supporters (though they do seem to forget to think about or mention RP’s newsletters), I contend that political ideology is a circle or maybe a “U” shape, with the Constitution down at the bottom IN THE CENTER, the fascists at the top on the left (of course) at one extreme and the anarchists at the top on the right at the other extreme. It is not a straight line where the far right anarchists are completely different like night and day from the fascists as many would contend. There are many similarities between fascists and anarchists like arrogance, thuggishness, lawlessness/excessive laws (depending on how the laws or lack thereof benefit them personally). Down at the bottom of the “U” or circle farthest away from these thugs are the liberty-loving constitutionalists who know what a happy medium, moderation in all things type of existence means and how it benefits all. They are the ones that realize that laws are needed and they need to be enforced by a good and moral people. However, at the top of the “U” or “O”, good and moral people are not to be found. That is the similarities I see between anarchists and fascists. When you get right down to it, what I mean is that there is only good (no, not perfect, MORE perfect) and evil, it just depends on the DEGREE of good and evil.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Dagney,

        While you may be bending the law of physics, I do see what you are saying. However, I believe this better reflects the political spectrum.
        http://www.personalliberty.com/feature-video/the-false-left-right-political-paradigm/

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Dagney

        LOL, now we are arguing geometry! To simplfy, I used an “O” or “U”. It’s really a sphere with all of our choices being every point of the globe. But, it still comes down to good and evil, and having NO government is evil, too.

      • The Blue Collar Man

        And RP supporters will HELP obumbler win!

      • Doug Rodrigues

        Good possibility that Ron Paul could help Obama win. Why? Because the average American voter is TOO STUPID to realize that Ron Paul is one of very few honest politicians who make decisions based on logical reasoning and deduction instead of “feelings” or political opportunity. Especially disgusting are the Lawyer Politicians who speak out of both sides of their mouths, Harry Reid and John Boehner being two examples.

      • http://yahoo ted

        i feel sorry for ur children. they will be paying for obamas progressive slot machine for a budget.

      • http://yahoo ted

        traitor

      • http://gmail.com sancheleezy

        Now it is very understandable to all why there are more Independent voters. This segment of the voting public grows ever larger daily as the American public realizes that both parties are composed of moderates hell bent on government control over the people in every way imaginable, Democrans want Socialism now and Republicrats in increments. People are waking up ever so slowly. Ron Paul and the Bill of Rights, just think, research, and restore.

    • CalGirl

      Right on!!

    • Jan Dinkins

      I thought the Democrats were/are the dictator facist machine. They definitely approve of the OWS’ers who claim and appear to be nothing but anarchists as was stated by one of the members on one of the MSM morning shows. And their actions demonstrate this…acting without control or obedience to laws. Nancy Pelosi said “bless their hearts”, Van Jones, labor unions and George Soros gives them complete backing and Obama tells them to put on their marching shoes. Sounds like and looks like the “democrat machine” loves upheavel, chaos and violence. Create a crisis and make good use of it.

  • s c

    This is not exactly surprising, especially since a certain percentage of ‘Republicans’ tend to practice a warped form of ‘political bisexuality.’ That is, they have no sense of direction, but they don’t let that get between them and their lust for whatever feels good at the moment.
    They should do America a favor and go ahead and admit that they’re no better than closet utopians. Anyone who finds a reason to vote for someone like Obummer isn’t interested in freedom or stability.
    “Republicans’ seem to double as modern-era Brits. They’re just looking for an easy excuse to sell their arses and act like they need to be consoled at the same time. A ‘Republican’ is a fence-sitter is a closet utopian is a wannabe slave. Brainless idiots and sheep-like pukes, you are definitely ‘Republicans.’

    • Brian

      SC
      Not all Republicans are shape shifters. I am a Republican who wouldn’t vote OB for city dogcatcher. let alone President of the US. I will vote for whichever Repubaican,or, preferably, Ron Paul, wins the nomination. You are entitled to your opinion, but you need to know that a small minority does not define the whole Republican Party!!!

      • Larry

        Ron Paul is the only true conservative and the only one that will hold to his convictions and truly change the country and restore our rights. I can’t believe the republican party is so oblivious.

      • CalGirl

        I agree 100%!

      • dfinch

        I like a lot of what Ron Paul says until he talks foreign policy. He almost hyper-ventilates when he gets on the subject. The US has always been the “go to” country when another gets in trouble but I also realize we can’t do that anymore financially. His idea is to turn our backs. What I invision with that is another China. When would we build a Great Wall around the US?

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Dfinch,

        You clearly do not understand what Ron Paul says regarding national defense, but I believe you are close when you write, “but I also realize we can’t do that anymore financially.” What Ron Paul wants to do is eliminate foreign bases and military incursions. He wants to cut military spending, not defense spending. He has said that if Congress makes a case for war and declares war, he will go in and win it decisively and quickly and then bring the troops home, without nation building.

        You write: “What I invision (sic) with that is another China. When would we build a Great Wall around the US?” In fact, Ron Paul is the only Republican not advocating building a wall around the U.S. because he recognizes that walls are used to keep people in as much as they are used to keep people out.

        Go here to read Ron Paul on the issues: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ You owe it to yourself.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • meteorlady

        Ron Paul was asked what he would do if we were attacked. His answer was to go to the congress, get approval for an action and then win the war. I’d say that’s pretty good an idea. As for the rest, thanks Bob for intervening. Most don’t understand Dr Paul’s foreign policy.

    • http://20%Rep. Jack

      I say AMEN to that.

    • CommonSense4America

      I’d rather vote for a dim light bulb than Obama.

      • gnafu

        I’m with you on that! I can’t stand the dim light bulbs that are supposed to save a lot of electric but I would vote for just one of those bulbs before I would ever vote four more years of Obama Socialist/Marxism.

      • USAF VET

        The problem is too many people already voted for a dim 25 watt lightbulb and look what we got. Somehow I cannot believe this poll, and with what Obama has done recently with the contraceptive thing, many more people will be voting against him, more than voting for another candidate. He has proven he is power hungry and wants to be King of the U.S.. I wonder what would happen if a true poll was taken of a bunch of Dimocrat voters, how many of them would vote against Obumski due to his powergrab policies.

      • skip

        If you think we are Marxist/Communist, perhaps you are right. For the last decades, we have the developed the worst infant mortality rates, poverty rates, education rates, and the like of any of the developed nations, and they are all more Marxist/Communist than us – they have universal health care, universal free education from preschool through university, excellent retirement benefits and all of those communist programs and plots. Your position that we should abandon all government support for health, education, and retirement and presumably for any sort of infrastructure will insure we will get back to the country we had in 1790 when the Constitution was written – we need to get that level of health care, infrastructure and the like. They certainly did not want us to have interstates, airplanes, penicillin, automobiles, and all of those communist types of things – these Democrats and Communists have ruined us. Back to the farms for all of us – China tried that in the 70s and now they are becoming the dominant economy in the world – but are they still on the farms, do they by chance have fast trains, are they manufacturing iPhones out on these farms??

      • John Lilleburns ghost

        but George W can’t be president again

    • OB1

      SC, I’ve been on a couple of other “conservative” sites. They are being highly hacked and edited. Here is the info from one who I shall call Anonymous Doc. I think all conservative sites are being monitored in a very flashy manner to gather information from us, the informed. My posts don’t appear on other computers. Creepy. For Mr. Livingston, Jeff and DaveH, Kate8, Old Henry and so many more, thank you. I don’t know quite what to say. Here is a sneaker from Anonymous Doc (May God bless you all!):

      Honest Mistake?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dZDoLTb41bo

      Message to the Media and the GOP

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lEaVv8RSkLw

      One more brief Message to the Media and the GOP

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q&feature=channel_video_title

      National Poll: Now 2nd in the Nation to Romney

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSTRE81514720120207

    • Acushla

      Yes 20% of Republicans support the agony of pain babies go through when they are aborted.

    • Jan Dinkins

      So having the present “dictator” in chief is better than what you perceive the Republican candidates to be? Have you not listened intently to Santorum’s platform? By keeping Obama in office, everyone’s taxes… not just the “wealthy” will go up tremendously. Obama and Clinton said this at a congressional hearing during the ’08 campaign. A tax increase would be imposed on a yearly salary of around $47k. Also, the Torbin tax will be imposed on everyone. If you want this nation to become a nation of poverety and dependence then Obama is your man. Remember, the golden goose who lays the eggs(tax-payers) is dying out quickly. In other words, everybody and his brother will be scrambling for crumbs! But the “dictators” in D.C. will be living large.

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