I have read the book, I know how all this ends, it does not end well for these Lucys and tares.

Have faith, we are not alone

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Amen…Rev.19, 11-21…

FF, Yep prepare and don’t despair!

I have read the book and it tells me that the alien astronauts will come back and this time they will not only destroy part of humanity, but every one else that has not evolved to a certain standard….. Translation of the bible to be considered with modern knowledge of technology, gen-research, knowledge of physics and reason.

NOT FUNNY… Government as God!

It’s all in our hands, because we are a part of the whole called God. If each person used his energy for peace and goodness, there would be no problems. Unfortunately, we have to be happy with a minority; however, Good has more power than Bad. Read Dr. David Hawkins’ “Power vs. Force.”

@Tazio2013,

Have ever heard the expression: “Give them enough rope, and they will hang themselves with it?” Patience!

One size does not fit all, and never will. Every individual on this earth has his own needs, desires, abilities, risk tolerance, and personal drive. And every group has their own cultural inclinations.
No Central Government can make acceptable choices for those myriad individuals and groups.
Anybody who thinks they can make the correct decisions for all is just lying to gain Power.
Lying? Hmmmm, who do we know here that does that, Flashman?

Flashy: Why is a one world govenment necessarily a bad thing ?

The phrase, “One world Government” is misleading at best. What is really implied, by the proponents who are feverishly working to bring it into focus, and who consistently mantra the phrase is; Establishing a centralized petro-chemical military dictatorship controlled through the artificial economic will of private banks and other trans-national corporate interests.

Global population reduced to 500 million I believe is the number their seeking isn’t it FF? I may be off a bit but still, that is what they want – 500 million is much easier to conntrol than 6.5 billion.

I didnt put up the stone wanting 500million population, bet they did. So its not me wanting this.

Laus Deo
Semper fi

FF,
Grab a copy of “Secret Weapon” by Kevin Freeman if you haven’t already. It will give you some info concerning the means that the Islamic radicals plus others, have been, and continue to use to bring down the West’s financial foundations.

Only a paranoid fool would build up those coffin liners as a deliberate pretense for nuclear war and the destruction of the USA. Like the video did say at the end this country needs to be prepared for any type of disaster (unlike Indonesia). Bulldozing bodies into big trenches is hardly a way to dispose of citizens who have been killed by a massive disease, a gas attack or even a nuke strike. There is nothing sinister about this open field in Madison Ga. just outside Robbins Air Force Base. If someone can film these liners and even walk around them and ask questions then it’s not very secretive. The government stockpiles a lot of goods including trailers,food,oil and I suppose I could say nuclear weapons too. Be concerned but not fearful.

They are planning on you dieing, what part of “plan” dont you understand.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Totally agree, eddie. I believe we have to worry more about internet terrorism than anything else these days. I recently heard about a rise in Arab cyber-terrorism against Israel by Arab hackers. Much easier and less bloody than anything else.

47. The Shock of a New Paradigm

http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=12669

Denial will not work. Thanks SteveQ

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Karolyn, it’s impossible to know with certainty, who the hackers are. I suspect, Mossad!

The question really is, what else was mixed into this blood….

This may be worth watching for some but Alex Jones also juggles the data in the Inforwars.He is his own Pied Piper and controller too.

In America you can still be your own man.

As others lose there testicles to fear, some grow a set. I have found that Liberals have very small, almost dwarf like testicles.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Freedom fighter__if Liberals don’t have testicles of their own, they’ll steal someone else’s!

Good one, Karolyn.

LOL…read my post before this one.

Jeesh…you guys are something else. The TP trilogy. Hate, fear, ignorance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU0cplwlOZU&feature=digest_sun&playnext=1&list=TLAqhhv3OOmuE&force_ap=1

For you flashy, call me crazy.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

OK FF … you’re crazy

Flashdunce, do you really think your adolescent manipulative tactics work on anybody other than Liberal Zealots?

I have no idea. But I do know your continuous attack with insane gibberish and continuous posting of Mises links convinces people the Moderates are a better choice.

You know that, Troll, how?

I hope so.

BTW…beause you need to have your hand held leading you somewhere..it was my addition to AV’s post at the beginning …

Ya gotta love it when the the “party of “family values”" give Newt TWO standing O’s for feigning ‘indignation’ and ‘pain” when asked about his second ex wife’s comments about the pain he caused to her and the family.

Let’s see…he’s Catholic, has had as many wives as the remainder of the cadidiates have had combined…and the party of “family values” give him standing O’s for being indignant when asked about it.

Having values is a far better thing than lacking any of substance.
When a particular viewpoint hypocritcally points its finger at another with no understanding of the nature of its shortcomings,there is bound to be contempt from both viewpoints.

“He wears a mask,and his face grows to fit it.”-Shakespeare

Intentions mean everything.
When an individual sets out to masquerade as one of character and integrity,but falls woefully short,he might learn lessons from those who have already have been caught and publicly scrutinized for their offenses.But learning only comes from the ability to see both sides,and choose the logical conclusion as a result.
The common mistake made by many is to think that the other side doesnt know much about them,because of idiosyncracies projected upon them by their predjudices.But having walked in their shoes for some time before we came to our senses,we can observe their mode of critical thinking and establish how we view their thoughts counteractively.
Have you ever been a Christian Mr. Flashman?
I was once such as you,a non-believing liberal finger pointer.
Having walked where you now tread,I can clearly observe why you think as you do.Cant say that I understand it,because it doesnt meet the criteria for critical thinking.But I have observed it nonetheless,and found it lacking.
One might patiently wonder why in your photographically framed moniker,that you do not look more deeply into the picture.But seeing things from a clouded perspective is largely due to ones inability to see from more than one direction.
You see the portrait of yourself through the lens of what you feel is accuracy,but the abstact expressionism eludes you.You view this as distortion,but in reality it comes from the ability to see things in another light.One that cannot be observed in a photo.
You profess moderation in your politcal view,but lack the wherewithal to see more than a degree or two from your own stance.Perched high atop the wall of separation you pontificate to the right,and offer condolences to the left.But when you fall,who will stitch you back together?Will it be your seemingly passionate close friends on the left,or will the right welcome you with open arms?
Consider this well.
Get back to me on this matter.
Cheers!
-CC.

CC..”Have you ever been a Christian Mr. Flashman?”

CC, I can honestly state I have never been a member of any organized religious cult. In my line of work, i have to deal with people every day who have conflicts …most of which are caused due to lack of thought and weighing of the relative impact of action of different influences, cause and effect..both long and short term.

Say you were a sniper. A 100 yard shot is relatively easy. Line up the sights, pull the trigger.

Now lengthen that shot to 1000 yards. Not only do you have the obvious outside factors of wind and humidity to factor in, you have to also factor in the spin of the earth and the magnetic fields.

A bullet traveling 1,000 yards would be deflected about three inches to the right. In addition, you’d have to aim higher or lower depending on the degree to which you were facing east or west. If you were firing due east, you’d have to aim six inches lower, since the earth rotates from west to east and your target would have dropped away from you slightly by the time the bullet arrived. If you were firing due west, you’d have to aim six inches higher.

Nothing is simple. The world and every single event in it is never Black and White. Nothing is absolute. Everything is relative given the circumstances it appears. That will be the ultimate failure of the TP movement. They cannot fathom this. They rely on religion and on simplistic solutions which always present themselves as absolute.

Flashman,
Do you really think anybody with a brain buys that you know the first thing about long range shots?
Flashman says “Now lengthen that shot to 1000 yards. Not only do you have the obvious outside factors of wind and humidity to factor in, you have to also factor in the spin of the earth and the magnetic fields”.
Magnetic fields? Most bullets are made of brass with a lead core. Neither is affected by magnetism. And even if they were it would depend entirely on which direction the shooter was shooting. So your statement “A bullet traveling 1,000 yards would be deflected about three inches to the right” is entirely BS.
There are four primary environmental factors that will influence long range shooting – wind, altitude/barometric pressure, temperature, and humidity. Wind being the most important.
And Flashman says “In addition, you’d have to aim higher or lower depending on the degree to which you were facing east or west. If you were firing due east, you’d have to aim six inches lower, since the earth rotates from west to east and your target would have dropped away from you slightly by the time the bullet arrived”.
First of all we’re on this earth when we shoot, so we are rotating on the earth the same as our target is, the relative distance from the earth’s core to us or our target does not change. The target does not drop away as the earth rotates. The bullet will drop, but the amount of droppage depends entirely on what caliber we’re using and what cartridge type, and that drop is mostly due to Gravity. And since we’re rotating with the earth the relative speed of the bullet will be unchanged regardless of which direction we face.
As usual, Flashman, you’re blowing smoke up our butts.

What is the first rule of Sniping Mr. Flashman?
-CC.

What in the world makes somebody like Flashman tick? Is he so used to snowing his fellow Liberals with BS that he thinks he can get away with it here? Or is he just the kind of twisted individual that gets a kick out of messing with people? Either way, he’s making Liberals look bad.

NC, we prove your ‘facts’ to be nonsense, time after time.
It’s safer for you to stick to personal attacks, isn’t it?

NC..they are false because DaveH claims they are false. haven’t you learned anything ???

Yes, Flashman, we’ve learned that you are indeed a Troll.

NC: I agree this the most irrational bunch of people it has ever been my pleasure to witness.

The fact that you take pleasure in observing irrational people suggests you may be psychologically disturbed. However, based on your postings, this revelation does not come as a surprise!

DaveH, you can’t carry Flashy’s book bag! He owns you in every argument!What has your party ever contributed to the growth of this land to being the number one nation in the world?? The right wing has argued for years that Democrats are socialist who know nothing of running our free markest system and that electing one would ruin our nation. Would you like to offer proof of that? What other party has done a better job?? You got proof? We’re ready for it. Right here is where you do it!!

We have plenty of proof your satanic Socialist/Communist system is a total failure for the people…example North Korea.

American history provides example after example of how the American form of goverment provided prosperity for the most people in the least amount of time in the history of the world.

You commies got Jack, and Jack left town.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

FF..I know of no one who ever has put forth N korea as a model to copy. Though i’m not sure Mises woudn’t claim it to be…

Try again…

Is this Flashy, or is NC just a big brown-noser who admires Flashy? Is this NC, or is this Flashy using a different moniker, as i’m sure, he cannot find anyone who will agree with him, except, of course, trough the use of multiple monikers? Either way, and whoever you are, the fact that DaveH continuously exposes your subversive tactics, is obviously beginning to take its toll on you! And yet, you persist…

So why aren’t you happy and satisfied with the socialist democrats that you are part of? If things in your world are as good as you believe, they can stand by themselves and do not need defending. Apparently things are not so good.

I can, and do, beat you and Flashman, NC, in every logical debate you dare to engage in. The fact that you aren’t aware of that is solely a tribute to your lack of intelligence.
There is one mental pursuit that you and Flashman beat me in, NC, and that’s Fabricating Facts. I wouldn’t even try to beat you in a Fact Fabricating contest.

NC said “you can’t carry Flashy’s book bag!”.
Yep, I have to hand it to you, NC. That was quite the insult because anybody but a quadriplegic could carry Flashman’s book bag since it’s empty — like your head.

DaveH..and i sincerely mean this. Logic is a subject you never took in school. That much is glaringly obvious. It’s not an insult…just an obvious fact.

No, it’s an insult, Flashman, but then as I’ve said many times, that’s all you have. Without your adolescent personal attacks, you’re just an empty useless Liberal shell.

And if you weren’t so damned ignorant, NC, you’d know by now that I say both major parties have Built Government to it’s current Leviathan state.
As far as Socialism goes, we’ve seen plenty of that right now in the Obama administration with the GM takeover, and attempted takeovers of the banks, and takeover of our Health Care choices. But, as I’ve said many times, the Republicans are complicit in the Socialistic leanings of our Government.

Please attemp to deny Barak Obama’s affiliation to know Marxist, socialist and communist friends, supporters, and czars (odd they are called czars, eh?. Please flash us another undocumented foolish comment.

The Communist Holocaust
Communist Holocaust

Communist Holocaust: 100+ million dead, hundreds of millions more tortured, imprisoned, and enslaved

Compiled by Chris Banescu (contributors: Scott Manning, Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation)

In October 1917, the Bolshevik Revolution gave birth to the deadliest ideology in human history – Communism. In less than 100 years, Communism has claimed more than 100 million lives. Today, it continues to enslave one-fifth of the world’s people.

A free people cannot afford to forget the evils of Communism. We cannot allow the atrocities of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, and Castro to fade into the background of history. We must not forget the trail of blood and tears this utopian deception has left behind.

It is a great moral failing that so many do not know the extent of Communism’s atrocities. While the horrors of Nazism are well known, who knows that the Soviet Union murdered 20 million people? Who knows that China’s dictators have slaughtered as many as 60 million? Who knows that the Communist holocaust has exacted a death toll surpassing that of all of the wars of the 20th century combined? (Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation)

The following estimates represent citizens killed or starved to death by their own Communist governments since 1918. These numbers do not include war dead. The governments are sorted by body count (highest to lowest). All numbers are mid-estimates.

A detailed bibliography is listed at the end of this page. While this list is as complete as I have been able to determine, it is evolving. Some numbers are incomplete and there are still five Communist countries that have the potential to kill more of their citizens. (Scott Manning)

Communist Holocaust Body Count: 149,469,610

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2010/03/the-communist-holocaust/

He may not earn his pay for the day if he doesn’t post and misdirect.

Just a minor correction…the mongol Empire had control over much of E Europe for over 100 years. Bringing trade routes, educational systems, gvernment organization, new rules of warfare, and forced consolidation of much of Europe as they had to join forces to stop the invasion of the mongol armies.

Alexander ruled for about 13 years, and his empire was of conquest and disintegrated almost immediately following his death.

I doubt there can be much of a case as to the lasting influence of Alexander in any society or culture, including Macedonian.

Again your revisionist historical slip is showing.
Mr.Flashman,are you aware that eastern Europe during the time of the mongol invasion was not even considered part of the known world?
It had scarcely been explored by Marco Polo when his stories had intrigued the barbaric horsemen to head west.
By contrast,the Persian empire,at that time the most powerful in the world,was easily conquered by Iskander.Not only did he leave his generals in charge of some of the most impressive governments of the times,but they eventually sent the aggregate knowledge of the ancient world to Alexandria,bringing all of that ancient knowledge to a central place.
What part of western Asia,or to more of the point,eastern Europe,was considered at that time to be relevant to historical note?
The Crusades were basically over by that time leaving the Muslim and Slavic worlds drained,culminating in easy domination by barbaric cavalry.Their coffers empty from continual religious war,they were vulnerable to invasion and easily conquered.
The tactics and battles of Alexander are still studied to this day in military institutions globally.With the advent of machinery,the tactics of the mongols were left wanting.
What part of those facts were missing when you opened the revisionary history books and skimmed through them?
Were you aware that shaving the face became normal practice for men through Alexanders observations of how beards were grasped in battle,and men were forced to follow their heads or be separated from them?He ordered his men to shave and the enemy didnt have that advantage over him any longer.
Men of his age(era)were protrayed as beardless,whereas before that,men always were portayed with beards,with the rare exeption of Egyptian royalty.
If you had actually learned any history,you would know these things,but you were taught by marxists,and though you had dates and places,the content of knowledge was omitted.
-Cheers!
-CC.

Alexandria was the main center of learning in the western world long after Alexander.

JFK Speaks out Against the New World Order

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKVt9EvqOpg&feature=related

Resistance is not futile.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

And that’s why he was assasinated. I pray for Ron Paul’s safety!

There’s one thing Politicians fear more than any other, and that’s to make a martyr out of a person. Killing Ron Paul would be the most foolish thing they could ever do.

and that is why they killed him. he fired the cia guy Dulles (research what a bad man he was and who he was connected with), wanted to pull out of Vietnam by 1965 and wanted to eliminate the fed and have the US control its own finances…all of which were reversed before lbj (the pos) landed on the ground that very same day once JFK was pronounced dead.

Bad for business when you depend on slavery and war for income and power.

LMS,
“you depend on slavery and war for income and power.”, that has been the name of the game for a very long time yet the populace has been mislead, easily, that it as such. Again, it runs back a very, very long time. There are but two main things that they seek – power & control. It is most certainly becoming much more evident day by day.

I thought the “New World Order” was instituted by G.H.W. Bush after the Berlin Wall was torn down – I remember hearing him first use the term. The phrase had nothing to do with one world government – Bush was merely describing what had already happened when the Wall collapsed. The entire world situation, or arrangement (“order”) had dramatically changed with the end of the Communist empire, which had kept a lid on many ethnic and religious movements, such as radical Islam. Bush was merely stating the obvious. The idea of a “New World Order”, as it’s used today, is a silly, nonsensical, delusional myth, which has nothing to do with reality. It’s depressing to realize how poorly informed and utterly confused many people are, as revealed by most of the posts to this article.

Your definition of integrity and principles may not be the same as a politician’s. The battleground is semantics.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

It’s amazing that so many young people have broken free from the Propaganda. I blame it on the Internet. And that’s why the Politicians are working so hard to stifle it.

And I’ve had the opportunity to talk with many ‘young’ Paul supporters – and without exception, their knowledge of the Constitution and Bill of Rights has been laudable. Smiled…and asked one young man who meets with a group of supporters 1/mo, “So, WHY are you for him – because you believe he’ll legalize drugs?!” And he replied: “We’re for Dr. Paul because he is the ONLY one who offers us any hope whatsoever for a…future.”

making it as difficult as possible. They do NOT want Dr. Paul! They want someone in there who can be BOUGHT… Business as Usual is what they want…continued Culture of CorruptionAnd a young man working in my home…an expert technician…went to his van to ‘get something’ for me. Gave me his dog-earred copy of a Pocket Constitution… (Closed the door behind me and realized WE are failing them…if we don’t keep up the good fight.) And CORPORATE ANYTHING is …

Sorry…my post got all mixed up in order…

TT –

I presume Perot was referring to Slick Willie. That is beautiful.

… solvendam pecuniam omnia alia.
(… all others pay cash.)

TT, Why it’s as plain as the ears on my head! – Ross Perot
My favorite RP moment was at a debate between Slick Willie, Bush the ancient, and RP. I can’t remember who the moderator was but Bill had just got finished touting all the things he had accomplished in the state of Arkansaw when the moderator turned to Mr. Perot and asked him what he thought of SW’s accomplishments in Arkansaw, now the debate had pretty much up until that point been Ross and Bill tag teaming HW, and Ross looked right into the camera and said, “Just cause you got a good ole’ boy who can run the corner grocery store don’t mean ya put him in charge of Wal-Mart.” The shot in the back look on Bill Clinton’s face was……… PRICELESS!!! It’s been hard even sharing this because I keep LOL reminiscing about it! You had to be there!!!

Very good points Patriot Diva. I’ve mentioned before on other article comments that Newt is a well disguised Progressive/RINO but needless to say, the usual back lash. Granted, he is a very good “wordsmith” but that doesn’t change the facts, it simply doesn’t.

Newsmax is an establishment Republican publication.

For the Establishment Republicans it’s ABP (anybody but Paul). They are scared out of their plaid pajamas that a Real Freedom Lover might get nominated.

Rush has been promoting Establishment Republicans ever since I can remember.

Agreed! So FIRE CONGRESS and elect Ron Paul! Of course, when we FIRE CONGRESS it would be nice if we replace them with independent, and citizens instead of more RINOS and communists.

Our elected officials (for lack of any better term since NDaa signed) have given nearly half of our US population a free ride for their vote. (and that includes those who are govt employees) the only exemption is our US military who is being used to carry out the politicians orders. Look at the troops donations to Ron Paul…thr troops have figured it out.

Every election begins at the 50/50 point and all of that bs money is spent to move the pendulum a very short distance one way or the other.

those of us in the know…realize that whatever way it goes IT STILL SUCKS BEYOND BELIEF.

I make the effort to share this information because it gives me, at last, a plausible answer to a long-unanswered question: Why, no matter how much intelligent goodwill exists in the world, is there so much war, suffering and injustice? It doesn’t seem to matter what creative plan, ideology, religion, or philosophy great minds come up with, nothing seems to improve our lot. Since the dawn of civilization, this pattern repeats itself over and over again.

The answer is that civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been built on slavery and mass murder. Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, cheat, steal, torture, manipulate, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse, in order to establish their own sense of security through domination. The inventor of civilization – the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers – was almost certainly a genetic psychopath. Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies – especially military hierarchies.

Behind the apparent insanity of contemporary history, is the actual insanity of psychopaths fighting to preserve their disproportionate power. And as their power grows ever-more-threatened, the psychopaths grow ever-more-desperate. We are witnessing the apotheosis of the overworld – the overlapping criminal syndicates that lurk above ordinary society and law just as the underworld lurks below it.

During the past fifty years, psychopaths have gained almost absolute control of all the branches of government. You can notice this if you observe carefully that no matter what illegal thing a modern politician does, no one will really take him to task. All of the so called scandals that have come up, any one of which would have taken down an authentic administration, are just farces played out for the public, to distract them, to make them think that the democracy is still working.

Continued:

www(dot)whale(dot)to/b/callahan1(dot)html

@former walmart person

You are one prescient individual. Keep thinking and writing. The revolution will be televised.

“But the battle is not in the physical world but in our Mind. We have only scratched the surface of who we are but are too afraid to leave our metaphorical city, where we feel safe. The control mechanisms in the world are reflections of the barbed wire in our Mind. It is safe to leave the ‘City’ and go outside. There is nothing to fear.”

http://merovee.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/logans-run-v-1984/

Sapere Aude

You’re right – doing it through the presidency is a non-starter…Even IF Ron Paul is elected president, he has to convince 435 other Senators and House of Representatives members that his is the right way to go…Won’t happen…THAT’S why we need TERM LIMITS of one term! And anybody that uses the lame excuse of “well, we won’t have any experience up there” – we see how well that has done up to now! TERM LIMITS will change the TYPE of person that wants to get ‘that job’ and the thinking of those up there…

Yes, but half of the Senate is also up for re-election this time too.

Isn’t it one third?

Sorry, Brian. I don’t mean this as a personal insult, but Term Limits are a pipe-dream. If we can’t even get the electorate to educate themselves and vote the rascals out. How do you think we’re going to get elected officials to limit their stays in office?
Our problem is a voter education problem, and even if we could get self-interested Politicians to vote limits on themselves, not much would change.

We have term limits, its called elections, everything else is only taking the choice away from voters.

Teh problem is that incumbents rig the rules in favor of incumbents (and the two major parties for that matter.) They like to limit spending so that those in office with the name recognition can win. Incumbents have franking priveledges to send out free mail. Incumbents do all kinds of things to win votes through their spending, taxing, and regulating. The playing field is not at all fair. Elections rarely turn out incumbents.

JIM, If we had term limits, Ron Paul would have been a non starter and long since forgotten.

I feared the same thing for Ron Paul—unless there truly is a god that will look out for righteousness.
It’s hard to formulate what we could all possibly do to change things. The other problem is that it does appear that the economic system is so far into ruin by these gambleaholics, that they don’t even know any other course of action. To change the whole economic system would be one HUGE HUGE endeavor. . Wouldn’t it? Effects on the whole wide world.

I see that we live in the same world. Which is why I am convinced that the first step into coming to the real world is to understand the truth about 9/11. Without it the total concept of the deception and what these bankers are able and willing to do is incomprehensible in its entirety. Understanding the true nature of events reveals how ruthless they are and how much power their controlled media can have over the people. Without understanding this one cannot imagine what they would do to us in order to save themselves. They have broken so many laws and committed so many crimes that they can no longer yield power without suffering the wrath of the people as during the French Revolution.

At this point our best and likely only option that would benefit the people would be a second American Revolution in which we could gain some concessions. Most people to this day still believe that we totally won the revolution as if having the Bank of England controlling America’s money was total freedom and independence.

A great movie that supports you assertion is”Capricon One”. About the first manned space flight to Mars

There is only on fallacy with your argument, by the time we the people get a candidate presented to us, that candidate is already bought and paid for by the same people who control the puppets in congress today…
A honest candidate that can be bought will never make it onto the ballot.

The should have read: A honest candidate that can’t be bought will never make it onto the ballot.

Ron Paul made it. Whether others make it or not depends entirely on us.

Ron Paul made it loooooooong time ago, He is a dinosaur, a leftover from a long bygone era. In todays time of inherent corruption, good luck finding anyone to make it into the race that is not bought for. just look at who is supporting whom, If ron Paul would be 40 yeARS YOUNGER AND TRY TO GET ANYWHERE

Ron Paul made it long time ago, He is a dinosaur, a leftover from a long bygone era. In today’s time of inherent corruption, good luck finding anyone to make it into the race that is not bought for. just look at who is supporting whom, If Ron would be 40 years younger and tried to make it into politics today he would have no chance in hell

Sorry about double post but the browser is behaving badly today.

We can’t stop all the fraud, but we can make a difference. Please, everyone, regardless of which candidate you support, get involved in helping to make the elections fair and honest.

http://watchthevote2012.com/

http://transparentvote.net/

We have it in our power right now to eliminate (or at least greatly diminish) voter fraud. Here is how:
Computerized voting would save the day. But so many people have been brainwashed against such a thing that implementing it is going to be very difficult. And the Political Class of course would rather not have such a robust system.
Anyway, here’s roughly how we could implement such a thing:
We could have two databases for each election. One database would store the ‘voter information’ (Identification, address, polling place, etc.). And the other database would store the ‘votes cast’ with a unique alphanumeric ID which would be given to each voter at the polling place. The polling place would also be stored on this database to identify problem polling places. Only the voter would know his alphanumeric ID so secrecy would be preserved. And the voter would be given a printout to verify how he/she voted.
The database would be accessible by the public. Anyone or any organization could check the ‘voter information’ database to see if any illegal voters cast votes. The votes in the ‘votes cast’ database could be easily tallied by anyone to see if votes were counted correctly and that the number of votes matched the number of voters in the ‘voter information’ database. Also, an individual voter would be able to check his alphanumeric ID to see that his votes are in the database correctly, and if not, he/she could notify the proper authorities or the proper news media. The ‘votes’ database could be corrected periodically to account for any corrections that were made by citizens claiming their votes were not entered correctly, or votes discovered to be made by dead people, convicts, etc.
It would be virtually impossible for officials to alter the databases without being detected since thousands or even millions of people would be checking it to make sure their votes were entered correctly.

Why the future doesn’t need us.

Our most powerful 21st-century technologies – robotics, genetic engineering, and nanotech – are threatening to make humans an endangered species.

By Bill Joy

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

I read this Wired article in 2000 and appreciate that you brought it to my attention again as it will always be worth reading by those relatively few of US with eyes to see and ears to hear, especially the excerpt from Ted Kaczynski’s Unabomber Manifesto; truly a cautionary tale.

Tuam libera mentem
Semper fi!

FF –

Isn’t there a Joe Stalin proverb that goes something like:
“It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”?

I think Stalin also observed:
“Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.”

And that is why the Politicians are working so hard to control our Internet.

Paul supporters, check out truethevote and volunteer as a poll watcher to prevent voting frauds. We want a fair game!

And quite seriously, how do we watch voting machines? And we KNOW that a ‘few’ voting precincts have NEVER shown up…

I miss going to the County square with my siblings in the back of Daddy’s pick-up, loads of quilts, to watch the vote tabulation on a huge blackboard (so it seemed to me) as the tally rolled in from the city/county/state…

Song yesterday on local station here: “fights were settled with someone’s having a bloody nose…with no knife or gun…and a stranger approaching was just a friend we hadn’t had a chance to know.”

Sorry – mind wandering to really good times in Texas…when I was a little girl. And I’m becoming ‘olden’ somehow, and I’ve not forgotten.

They could spend all the money they wanted and it would do no good if the electorate would do their homework.

DaveH. you can get a 100% fair elcetion and you can’t make 13% a winner? Winners rule! That’s what elections are about!If Ron Paul was Jesus and got 13% HE STILL LOSES! That’s what the Constitution is about!

Duh, NC, the elections aren’t over.

And, NC, the Constitution is all about defining the powers given to the Federal Government, and protecting the citizens and the States from the Federal Government. Read it, and learn something:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

And I would agree with you, NC – except for this: The Corporate GOP announced quite openly that there was no way they were ‘going to let’ Dr. Paul win. So, how do people battle THOSE odds?

The member banks own the Federal Reserve. Not the govt or the citizens!! They are the power of this country. Not our govt!!! The member banks top owners are the family members of Rockefeller, Rothchild, Morgan and more. . . They own us! And any president is no more than a puppet for them! Our citizens don’t get it. So sad. They keep getting stupider so they never will and we will all be slaves.

Yes, the last chance at peacefull return of goverment to the people, we do have another chance — armed revolt, but only if the military sides with the constitution.

The US Military must back the Constitution and the American people in revolt, that is the very last chance America has — Cival War.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Things are different now than they were down in good ole’ dixie. Instead of the battle of Gettysburg, you have the “absolute slaughter” of Chicago where 90% of the city either falls ill and dies over a week from a bio attack or 50-70% of the city dies in minutes from neurological agent. Or in seconds from atomic blast. You get the point. The romantic days of charging into musket and cannon fire are history. If the military sides with the people, the elite can just nuke us or bio us all to death.

They are few we are many.

I will not live a microchiped slave, without rights, freedom or liberty.

Will you?

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Neither will I. The only reason may be to avoid Hell if it does indeed exist. The Jews should have fought back during WW2 no matter how pointless it would have been because at least they could have died quickly on the battlefield and not slowly over weeks and months. It is agonzing for me to go a day without food let alone weeks. By the time the Jews walked into the gas chambers, it was probably a welcome end to the extreme suffering they faced in the camps.

As the wise man once stated,”Give me liberty,or give me death.”
-CC.

You need to do some research and read about how John Adams fought the British. He didn’t charge with muskets. And neither will we. I can assure you that it will be a guerrilla war of guerrilla wars. The NWO CAN be stopped.

Then I take it that you say there’s no sense in putting up a fight because the elites have all the bases covered?! Spoken like a true Wally World warrior! I believe that there is a God in heaven who’s going to hold us accountable if we don’t put up a fight!!! Whose side do think that He’s on? He’s behind us to the bitter end! I’ve read the back of the Book, I know who’s going to Win!!!

Have you never read about Haman’s gallows in the book of Ester in your Bible?!

When a few million angry Americans from all parts of the USA take to the streets to protest, the government will be powerless to do anything to control ALL of them. This has happened many times, in many countries in the ancient and modern world. It only takes a trigger point,an incident, which will touch the massess, triggering a mass outrage which will overwhelm the government and render them totally helpless.
Remember the government can’t nuke or bio attack the whole country because the elite and their families will also be annihilated.
I am confident that when Americans become good and tired of being oppressed and denied their Constitutional rights, the American people will take action and then things will change.

Elias…they have and are. It’s called the 99% protests…which are ridiculed on this site every day and calls go out to toss ‘em injail and break up the protests. Even though they are protesting the very same that the TPers on this site are saying what is wrong with this nation and government representation.

What are they protesting, Flashman?

Flashy, the OWS protesters do not represent the same spirit that the posters on this site do! MOST of the folks on this site want the true American dream of Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness, while the spirit displayed by the OWS protesters is one of anarchy! The last people I want telling me how things ought to be done are ones that don’t even know how to clean up their room or are too lazy to bathe regularly!!!
Now I don’t agree with all of his political views, but he is one of the greatest and prolific American song writers that has ever been! His songs are true Americana and must’ve grew up in a neighborhood very similar to mine. And this tune of his, I think is one of the best songs ever penned!

“The Promised Land” by Bruce Springsteen

On a rattlesnake speedway in the Utah desert
I pick up my money and head back into town
Driving cross the Waynesboro county line
I got the radio on and I’m just killing time
Working all day in my daddy’s garage
Driving all night chasing some mirage
Pretty soon little girl I’m gonna take charge

CHORUS
The dogs on Main Street howl
’cause they understand
If I could take one moment into my hands
Mister I ain’t a boy, no I’m a man
And I believe in a promised land

I’ve done my best to live the right way
I get up every morning and go to work each day
But your eyes go blind and your blood runs cold
Sometimes I feel so weak I just want to explode
Explode and tear this whole town apart
Take a knife and cut this pain from my heart
Find somebody itching for something to start

CHORUS

There’s a dark cloud rising from the desert floor
I packed my bags and I’m heading straight into the storm
Gonna be a twister to blow everything down
That ain’t got the faith to stand its ground
Blow away the dreams that tear you apart
Blow away the dreams that break your heart
Blow away the lies that leave you nothing but lost and brokenhearted

CHORUS
I believe in a promised land…

Copyright © Bruce Springsteen (ASCAP)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekdXmPlCBOY

Amen, Amen, and Amen! Do ya feel me now Deer?!!

This is a very prophetic song, pay special attention to the last stanza!
Keep your eyes on the skies! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

God rest your soul Big Man!!!

You still didn’t answer my question, libertytrain. Why do you interfere? And yes, it is, always, with a particular poster, namely, pastor Tom! Surely then, you approve of his hypocrisy? And speaking of hypocrisy; i’ve yet to see you respond to any of Tom’s viscous, and slanderous assaults directed at anyone, who, God forbid, should dare disagree with the pastor. Why is that, libertytrain? Clearly, that man needs to be wearing a leash, and a muzzle!

Jay, You need to go over your paranoia.

The Future of Humanity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2t_k_Y9_Ro&feature=uploademail

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

For the past (?many) the major part of our military has shifted its training tactics and indoctrination to produce the world’s largest and most elite SWAT force earthly creation has ever known. All this occurred at times when family indoctrination deteriorated (full time working mothers and fathers) and public schooling indoctrination essentially disappeared (Civics study became a small subordinate to “Social Studies”.) Let us pray that the (our?) military finds a way to choose the right path to the side of the people.

To which they are sworn FF!!!

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So where does it say here they have to join an uprising against a rightfully elected government? In fact, it states clearly they have to defend the “rightful elected government”I.E. The US against domestic enemies….i.e. domestic uprising or to use the newest term, domestic terrorists.
It does absolutely NOT mater if the people uprising consider them self patriots, constitutionalists, real Americans or what ever. The constitution and the laws have many venues for the people to make their grievance heard and addressed, an uprising or as some hope for “second revolution” is not one of them. In fact, I believe that the part that specifies domestic enemies is clearly in there to protect a government that has been elected using the tools provided by the constitution from sore losers that would revolt. The ONLY time that the military would be in their rights to go against the government is if that government is taken over by force either from within or the outside…. as long as the government of the US is rightfully elected by the people, the faction that loses the election has NO right to try and force their particular issue…and the military will not…can not by its oat overthrow a government that is elected by the people because a government elected by the people using the tools the constitution provides is a constitutional government and the military is pledged to protect it..Of course, they always can suspend the constitution and have the military take over the country just as in other 3rd world countries….but is that really what you want?

John: in the Oath you quoted, the Constitution is listed first and the “elected government” second. This should give you a sense of which one is more important.

In such case where the orders received from the “elected government” are in violation of the Constitution, the Constitution should take precedence because by giving such orders, the “elected government” has become a “domestic enemy” that the Oath says you will protect against.

The President of the United States is sworn to uphold the Constitution as well! If the elected officials are not upholding the Constitution, then the armed forces are sworn to uphold the Constitution and oust the corrupted officials!!! What did the Bible say about the days when evil would be called good and good would be called evil?
Keep your eyes on the skies, Jesus is coming! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

What did the Bible say about the days when evil would be called good and good would be called evil?

You are so right. If people only knew how much of our lives were being controlled for our own “good”, they would realize how evil the world has become.

Everybody needs to read Revelations to understand how bad it’s going to get. Besides all the natural disasters, there will be starvation from genetic seed engineering and germ warfare.

Besides the Bible there are a lot of other predictions about the end of civilization as we know it. What will happen in December of 2012 is that all the planets will line up in a row and the magnetic pull will shift the earth, causing massive earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. If Yellowstone would go up again, it would cover most of the U.S. in ash four inches deep. Crops would fail and most livestock would die causing mass starvation. It would be just the excuse that the government would need to declare Martial Law and throw out the Constitution. If you believe Revelations in the Bible, that should be the beginning of the one world government.

In astronomy I’ve read that all the signs in the heavens for Jesus’ return will happen in the summer of 2015. Three and a half years after December of 2012. We’re already going through the first three and a half years before Satan and the one world order takes over.

I would feel sorry for Ron Paul if he was President when it all hits the fan because he cares what happens to the people in America. Obama couldn’t care less. He would probably say good riddance and take off on another vacation!

People need to Google “executive orders from hell” if they want to know what’s going to happen if the people try to revolt and the government puts us under Martial Law. What in the world do they think all the FEMA camps are about anyway? Made for all of us “domestic terrorists” in the event we try to fight back!

I’m sure that some people will survive as God intends. I pray that I will be in that number to see Heaven on Earth after Jesus returns. We may not be able to prepare our bodies for what’s coming, but I hope that many people here are preparing their souls and that God will watch over all of us in the future hell that’s coming.

Good luck and God Bless.

Tom W:

Technally the military should have removed Soetoro and Bidden a long time ago.

Henry…”technically” ? You are saying there should have been a military coup d’etat because the Pres. and Vice Pres. were elected by a majority of the voters?

I’d ask why you believe the military should have removed the elected heads of our government, but I think the answer would be just as jaw dropping insane as stating the military “techically’ should have taken over…

Because they’re, and the past eight administrations are as guilty as well, trampling the Constitution Flashy!!! As a matter of fact it is, and for very good reasons, theorized that was reason that JFK was assassinated, Because he finally figured out that the Military Industrial Complex was the threat that Dewight D. Eisenhower had been warning about for years! And when he started to talk about pulling the troops out of SE Asia, the MIC felt that he had to go! Once in their pocket, he had now become a threat to their business of war!!!

They will…as well as our police forces…they know the score as to what is at stake.

Why do you believe this? It hasn’t been so in any other country on the planet and I think that the police actions and military actions against the citizens of New Orleans in wake of hurricane Katrina speak against the thought you have just written.

Look at how things have changed since them…I wasn’t even awake until 2 years ago…many are waking up…if you recall things didn’t really become crystal clear until 2008.

Lots of military vet and current will not turn on the citizenry…the police are just like you and I…they have families, homes, kids and lives. Everyone stays in a shitty job when there is no other option. When the currency is destroyed why go to work…

In fact, ask a policeman who’sside they are on…find out for yourself.

Look at how theings have changed since then. Katrina was 2005. Alot has happened since then.

The crash and deception in 2008 opened my eyes, but I didn’t really wake up until 2 years ago.

The military and vets will not side with the govt…ask them…our troops pay sucks and look what they do…Being a policeman right now isn’t the greatest job either…they are just like us…they have families, homes, debt, etc. We have all had crappy jobs in the past that we couldn’t get out of.

For piece of mind ask them whose side that they are on…you will be pleasantly surprised.

Has anyone ever heard of the Promise Keepers?!
Not on our watch!!! To which I am an honorary member! If you belong to any order of our government SWORN to uphold and DEFEND the sacred principles of our founding documents, you should be a member of this brother and sisterhood!!!

NOT ON OUR WATCH!!!

An article of interest today in News With Views.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Cuddy/dennis225.htm

The idea that one party of the two will be of any benefit to the regular person on the street is ludicrous. Big business has and always will come out on top. The elections are a scam, the people don’t nor never have elected the president. It is the electorial college that decides, and of course big business controls them.

Only in their socialistic utopia James! This ain’t it!!! This is the Land of the Brave and the home of the Free! It is man’s basest instinct to be free, and once he has tasted that freedom, there is no other way to live!!!

Tom…and just how long have you been delusional? “It is man’s basest instinct to be free”

Where do you find that? beig free means free thought. being free means thinking for oneself. Human beings never think for themselves, they find it too uncomfortable.

For the most part, people simply repeat what they are told-and become upset if they are exposed to any different view. One reading of this site on any day proves this.

The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare. As displayed EVERY DAY here..people state in so many words ff you don’t believe as they do, in whatever insane god they believe in, then you are the enemy because you “think’ differently and they will not allow freedom to think differently. it is dangerous to their need for conformity. .

Other animals fight for territory or food; but, uniquely, people fight for their ‘beliefs.’ The reason is that beliefs guide behavior People are stubborn, self-destructive conformists. Any other view is just a self-congratulatory delusion.

Basest instinct to be free. It’s just the opposite. There is a huge number who fear being anything but conformists in thought and act.

Hopefully, as we evolve, if we don’t blow ourselves up or the strife sown by the conformists doesn’t bring down our civilization, the forward looking amongst us may jest save us from ourselves.

What is Freedom to you, Flashman?

Flashy: For the most part, people simply repeat what they are told-and become upset if they are exposed to any different view. One reading of this site on any day proves this.

The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare. As displayed EVERY DAY here..people state in so many words ff you don’t believe as they do, in whatever insane god they believe in, then you are the enemy because you “think’ differently and they will not allow freedom to think differently. it is dangerous to their need for conformity. .

Flashman, are you an alien? Can i assume that you are a human being/person/people? Am i to deduce, therefore, from your spiel, that you somehow transcend the condition, or malady, as your philosophical prognosis suggests: “The characteristic human trait is not awareness but conformity, and the characteristic result is religious warfare.” is it possible, that perhaps, and unbeknownst to you, or that, you may be unaware of the fact, that you are projecting? You intimated in one of your responses to a poster that you studied logic, yet, i rarely see you apply this, logic, you speak of! Why is that? Why are you holding back? Clearly you have spoken out of anger, and anger expressed, is proof that reason has been supplanted, not with logic, but irrational emotions, thoughts, words, and deeds! The end result being? Well, i’ll leave you to answer that…

Flashy, you’re calling me delutional?!! Beliefs are what separate us from the animals! What is the difference between man and animal? Besides the FACT that we are created in God’s image, we unlike any other life form on this planet are able to communicate our thoughts through, for example, the arts. Go ahead Flashmanikan another life form able to intellectually comunicate….. I’m waitng! Just one.

Oh yeah, and the ability to spell!

Damn that Jay dude is even deeper than Deerindeepdoodoo! Like whooo dude, who are ya tryin’ to impress? Yourself?!!

Are you still upset that i exposed you for spiritual hypocrite that you are, Tom?

You only expose yourself as the overly self-evaluated juvenile moron that you truly are Jay. As I have said before, A two year old is intellectually superior to you. You and about a half a dozen of the other fascist lemmings on this site better WAKE UP! Because it’s almost over!!! I feel sorry for y’all and your all in my prayers, but if you don’t open your eyes soon, There’s gonna be HELL to pay! (II Cor. 4:3&4)

You need to look in the mirror Tom, and realize what a double-minded person you are. Christian? How can you profess to being a Christian? You bring down God’s wrath on anyone who doesn’t agree with you, showering them with hate and slander, yet, you can transform yourself into the worlds biggest brown-noser should someone agree with you, copying and pasting Holy Writ like a carnival barker on steroids! One need not be an intellectual genius to figure out that you are as phoney as a three dollar bill! I’ll ask you as before; How can you claim to bless God, while cursing His image(Man)?

Jay, I’ve read your assorted posts long enough the last couple years to know you shouldn’t be pointing any of those fingers…

libertytrain, why do you insist, and persist in interfering in my skirmishes, and that, only where pastor Tom is concerned? I’m sure pastor Tom is a big boy, you need not hold his hand!

Jay, read your own comments some time. Has nothing to do with any poster in particular, rather your pointing fingers about who is and who is not the “real” Christian. I wasn’t aware you were granted a special power to make that decision. Perhaps you were, hard to believe though…

Yet, you still didn’t answer my question, libertytrain. Why do you interfere? And yes, it is, always, with a particular poster, namely, pastor Tom! Surely then, you approve of his hypocrisy? And speaking of hypocrisy; i’ve yet to see you respond to any of Tom’s viscous, and slanderous assaults directed at anyone, who, God forbid, should dare disagree with the pastor. Why is that, libertytrain? Clearly, that man needs to be wearing a leash, and a muzzle!

“It is the electorial college that decides, and of course big business controls them”..

And THAT’S why we need to be rid of them.. When the US was beginning there was a lot of space between communities and this electorial college was necessary in order to gather all the votes according to the voters but today, hell, today you can catch the early bird and be in China before dinner.. We also need to eliminate paydays for upper politicians.. Their rich men to begin with, why do they crave more? Serving this Country should be a privilege, not a financial burden on the people.. Good Gawd people, it’s nothing more than political welfare. They may at times deserve it but to them it’s chicken feed (thus they keep voting themselves raises) If they were in the same financial position that most middle class is then I could see it but look at them.. Millionaires STILL trying to con money out of the people they don’t give squat about in order to be elected and in their brain pan they’ve set up the scenario that the more money they can raise, the more chance they will win and just what do those fools who run decide to drop out? What happens to the money they raised? It’s all a scam, a joke.. And we’re the butt end of it.

Ron Paul has said he is quitting if he comes in lower than second place in Virginia…

That’s good Mark. As I recall Romney and Paul are the only two on the ballot in VA.

A two sided coin, you may get heads, or you may get tails, but truth be told, it’s the same old, same old!!!

Before I get sidetracked anymore I want to do what I first intended when I logged on this morning, kudos Bob on a great piece of journalism!!! You hit it right on the head sir! Excellent piece of work. I still have reservations about RP’s stance on the Islamic problem but as far as the domestic stuff, I think that he’s spot on!!! I hope that none of the left has anything to say positive about him, because that makes me think twice!

Thank you OB1. I have gone to a couple other sites as Old Henry. Changing my ID seemed… I don’t know… misleading I guess. However, I suppose gurrilla tactics should dictate that we move around “out of sight”.

I am very, very rarely off the mark in the long run and I am right on target with Little Barry. It is simple really. All it takes is common sense rationalizing, logic and the ability to just stand off to one side so to speak. It also helps to not give the south end of a rat what anyone else thinks.

I have tremendous hope. God does not and will not fail. This quote from Solzhenitsyn is only a reminder to what has and can occur… Jesus said “Fear not” more than almost anything else in the recorded New Testament. We are not to fear, but to battle and fight it. This should be a battle fought with communicated words (internet and socially)fasting, and faith.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs (police) would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
–Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Also:
Men Have Forgotten God–Templeton speech

http://orthodoxnet.com/blog/2011/07/men-have-forgotten-god-alexander-solzhenitsyn/

Preach it OB1! Preach it bro! Come on, can I get a big Amen!!! Tell me something, wouldn’t you have liked to here Barack sing this Al Green tune?!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIyQefMvl8g&feature=fvst

Preach it Al!!!

The difference is…. we have guns, and millions of them.

I hope so, but unfortunately that will not be enough this time. This is going to require a George S. Patton of the internet. You inspire me…(for a long time). Go to other websites and speak it Old Henry! I know you can do it! Change your user name to Tinkerbell then the trolls are not afraid! Change you city town and country! Just speak yourself…and be an 8 year old girl! Go! I love your posts and they have encouraged and inspired me to make alot of changes. I can’t move right now, but I can do many things different. Thank you for just being you. Let ‘em have it…

OH! Shhhh!! Let it be a surprise!!!

Michael J:

That would, heaven forbid, require the American voters to do some homewor and do some independent crital thinking and ignoring the MSM.

Over the week end I read an article on Town Hall by Chuck Norris where he endorsed Newtie. He put forth 10 questions regarding what our nominee should meet. As I read them I kept thinking Ron Paul. When I got to the end and saw Newtie I was dumb-founded due to the author.

Ole Chuck is now crossed off my list as people I will read. He has exposed himself for what he is.

To Flashy:
Right on!! The scary thing is,what you say is so true. Thanks!!

Flashy: if Congress can be pushed to pass it.
Immediate disclosure by the PACs and the candidates of all contributors, the dates the money was given, who they worked for, and how much.

And you expect this, from Congress? You truly are deluded, Flashy. That’s like having the crime syndicate preside over its own parole board! Try again again, you nub!

Jay…I didn’t say it would be easy…I offered up a possible solution to the current mess. your solution (reasonable) is?

So…you voting for your incumbent come the fall?

You obviously failed to glean the message from Mr. Livigston’s article. Simply put: The wolf(s) are in charge of the hen-house. What you’re suggesting is that we negotiate/plead/bargain with the wolf(s)!

i have little hope actually. When the 99% protests are attacked daily by the TPers etc…even though the subjects being protested are almost on every subject in agreement with the TP cries of woe…

I have little hope. There is too much fear, hate and ignorance as exemplified by the TP and its members. They offer no hope other than to instill amongst their controllers the knowledge they will not have change foisted upon them by the People.

You said that before. But what are they protesting, Flashman?

I think he’s saying they are protesting the corporate influence in politics. Or as they say, the “elites”, or “1%”, hence it is an international movement/protest.

Here we have a guy who supports Obama, the least transparent President in my life, telling us that Obama has the answers. Sure, Flashman.
You have no credibility on this board, Flashman.
http://www.infowars.com/obama-less-transparent-than-bush-cheney-on-campaign-donors/.

Campaign Contributions aren’t our main problem. Our main problem is a mass of citizens who get their campaign choices from sound-bites on a TV. Our main problem is a mass of citizens who have been propagandized into an apathetic stupor by Government Public Schools, Government sycophantic media, and other propaganda operatives like the troll Flashman.

But if we had a conservative government, all that indoctrination in schools and other would still happen…just with a different slant…. but then it would be just A.O.K. right?

Education should be neutral, and not slanted either religious or political…but that’s not how it is. There are as many right slanted schools as there are left slanted schools and as long as all factions believe that its their way or no way, we will have conflicts. True neutrality in education would solve this.

Fact is also, All candidates make use of the same tools, all parties use the internet, the airwaves, the printed media and other. The conservatives use religion to top it of, and don’t tell me it is not true, you should hear the sermons of the local preacher…
Fact is, they all have access to the same tools, airwaves and TV adds are available to them for the SAME price independent of your political leaning… in fact, by law it has to be the absolute lowest price the station accepts for any of its services and it has to be the same price. independent who runs the add…and by law, political adds during elections can NOT be denied by any commercial radio or TV station. All information on political advertisement, the amount the candidates pay for how many units per time and so on are displayed at the TV/Radio station in the so called public file …open for anyone to see…and I mean anyone …even the homeless drunk that just wants to warm up and thus spends an hour looking through the folders. Want to see who paid for what locally, go to the station and ask to see the public folder…you can even make copies of the files for a small nominal fee per page (by law not to exceed the local public fees for copying at Kinko’s or what not)Printed media is slightly different, but heck who reads a printed news paper anyways these days.

If people are influenced by political advertisements (a part of the economy that provides hundreds of thousands of jobs)Then don’t blame the advertisers, or the advertisements for it but blame the people who rather believe that everything they see on TV or hear on radio is true then doing their home work and educating them self. The tools are out there, but unfortunately one can not force people to overcome their own laziness… and this statement is true as much for the left as it is for the right…. people are lemmings and sometimes I think that people WANT to be lied to because it appears to make the burden of life easier to bear.

Do you know the difference between Propaganda, John, and facts?

And John, if you truly believe that all education is biased, then you should embrace Freedom of Educational Choice. Let the students and/or their parents decide what they want to learn.

Of course I know the difference between propaganda and facts, but that’s not the point, if a faction chose to run just with the facts ok, if a faction chooses to run with propaganda, o.k. with me too. Fact is, they all use the same tools and the same access to those tools. Yes some have more money then others, but that is a fact of life, some will always have more then others, and that’s how it should be…if we all had the same, innovation and progress would stop because there would be no incentive for them….In the end, it is up to the individual to separate fact from fiction. Because like it or not what one person sees as fact, the other may as well see as fiction…

DaveH…last i heard, you can sedn your child to any school you choose to. Even home school them if you so choose.

Last I heard, you can do that but you have to pay from your own wallet usually, and still pay for other peoples’ children on top of that.

DaveH, you can Homeschool, plus the publics will “help you” to keep you on the govt. radar. I paid to “The Home School legal defense fund” in case of a controversy. The Govt did not go after homeschooling, they will go after any infringement they can get you with. That is what happened and what I saw. Rick Santorum was the senator who made it possible for any person convicted of any type of abuse, (grab a child’s wrist, push back to an aggressive teen or child) to never be given a right to own a firearm. The elites used this 2 ways: oe to stop parents from enforcing limits and boundaries, and another to control guns. Check out Santorum’s record on gun troll legislation and another on no child left behind. You are better at me than this, but I do have it.

Mises again. Dave.. do you get paid by that imitation of the Weekly World News ?

I can count of Mises to provide informative truthful information, Flashman, unlike yourself.
And they’re called references, Flashman, because even though I’m an honest man (unlike yourself), I still wouldn’t expect the readers to just take my word for it.

Unfortunately, there is NO true neutral media, all of them have a slant to further their cause and thus events are displayed that way. News organizations do not exist to tell the truth or not tell lies, they exist to make money.. and they all get the same basic news from the same few sources.. it is just displayed with a different emphasis on the story. The only way to get the truth is to read media from all sites (even if it is inconvenient) and try to filter the common truth out of the provided information. Or subscribe to the same news services those organizations subscribe to (expensive for the raw info) and make up your own mind.

Study some of the writings at mises.org, John. If you come away thinking they’re making stuff up to suit their biases than you can talk.

LOL..Mises followers are proof drugs rot the brain.

You, Flashman, are the rot.

The real question the readers should be asking is “Why is Flashman so afraid of Mises?”, and “Why does Flashman attack the organization rather than addressing their facts and rebutting them if he thinks they’re wrong?”. The answer, of course, is that Flashman’s only tools are manipulative tools, because his Fabricated Facts can’t stand up to scrutiny.

The answer as to why Flashy is here, is cleverly revealed in your second question, DaveH.

DaveH, no utopian on this website has the courage (or the talent) to dispute von Mises. Even reading von Mises is a collective no-no. Those few utopians who can read by themselves know that if they let themselves read von Mises (without written, prior approval), they’ll be excommunicated from ‘the true faith.’
Frankly, their arrogance smacks of a very childish form of anal retention, and I don’t see any reason to try and coax them out of their dreamland. They’re addicted, and to them it’s “as good as it gets.” Once a utopian, always a utopian.

DaveH…when you attack me prsonally, when you post a link which doesn’t also carry the end reesult of the dispute, when all you can retort to any writing is calling for references…I win.

You can’t come up with a cohesive independent thought. So you attack me personally with false information or you claim without rebuttal i lie, and you never ever have come up with counter argument.

Now go to your Mises and post a link which anyone with any credibility would have a problem rebutting…because they are too tied up in laughing that anyone would believe it.

Flashman, the regular readers know who needs to do the personal attacking in lieu of facts. Who do you think you’re fooling?
It will be a cold day in the hot place when you win a debate with me.
I can beat you in any mental contest except lying. In that, you would admittedly beat me hands down.

Who’s Greedier, the people who want to keep their own legally earned property, or the people who want to take it away from them?
If you think Government is the solution, Sgt, then you need to explain to me why the size of Government is inversely proportional to the size of the economy in this list of countries:
http://heritage.org/index/ranking

More reality:
http://mises.org/daily/5632/Freedom-and-Economic-Growth-in-the-Poorest-Countries

The Greedy Bastards are the bankers , corporations and politicians selling out the American people for profit.Sorry you have to be spoon feed every thing

Who said it was “legally earned” Dave. They make the rules to achieve that “earned” money. The rest of us only have to sit back and accept it as “earned”.If you complain about their ill gotten gains a person is labeled as a communist and the truth be damned. As for me I’ll keep fighting those sinister capitalists whether crony or otherwise. When they are no better than the communists in taking from others then they don’t deserve any respect either.

So, Eddie, you know I believe that Crony Capitalists rig the game. So what are you doing about that? Are you voting for Politicians that want Government out of the Marketplace? If you aren’t, then you are part of the problem, because as long as Government is allowed to meddle in the Marketplace, they will favor their Cronies. It’s just a fact of life.