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Urinegate

January 17, 2012 by  

Urinegate

Given the endless series of crimes committed by President Barack Obama and his merry band of accomplices, it’s hard to imagine why the liberal elite have their panties in a knot over a video of a few Marines answering nature’s call while standing above the corpses of the latest Islamofascists to run headlong into the outstretched fist of the U.S. Military like so many bugs on a proverbial windshield.

Even a casual glance at the video reveals that the Marines lowered the population in the “wants to kill everyone who thinks women shouldn’t be forced to dress like beekeepers” demographic. The rest of the planet subsequently enjoys the removal of said homicidal vermin. And the terrorists get to be martyrs. Thanks to the Marines, everyone is a winner.

But someone isn’t happy. According to the usual liberal suspects, what the Marines in the video did was unconscionable. The Globe And Mail called the incident an “atrocity,” although it omitted the fact that the Taliban are dedicated to visiting atrocities to every human being on the planet who doesn’t share their twisted ideology. On the liberal Democratic hate-speech site Dailykos.com, one of the bobbleheaded “diarists” called the Marines “absolute barbarians” and suggested urinating on dead Islamofascist terrorists “dehumanizes the enemy and turns them into monsters.” Sure, because up until Urinegate, the Taliban were the moral equivalent nursery school teachers with AK-47s.

Lest we forget, none other than the lord of the Dailykos manor — and prominent Democratic cheerleader — Marcos Moulitsas reacted to the Islamofascist murder, dismemberment, burning and hanging from a bridge of Americans by saying of the victims: “Screw them.” Meanwhile, the redoubtably liberal Daily Beast offered the “Taliban-on-the-street” perspective from “Taliban fighter” (but not “Taliban terrorist”) Jan Mohammad Khan: “These Americans have crossed the borders of civilization and humanity by disrespecting the dead.” Allah forbid the Marines offend the delicate sensibilities of someone who considers “honor killings” an admirable practice. Furthermore, just how much consideration should we offer to the same terrorists who duped an 8-year-old girl into becoming an unintentional suicide bomber?

The same liberals who shouted their support of Obama from the highest rooftops following the execution of the Taliban’s big buddy Osama bin Laden have decided “desecrating” the dead bodies of Islamofascists is despicable. I must admit that I don’t envy the liberals, who live in a world where the choices range between dichotomy and duplicity. Their outrage seems even more out of place when one considers the fact that even the Taliban appear not to share their perspective. Taliban spokes-terrorist Zabihullah Mujahid said: “The video will not harm our talks.”

Urinegate is hardly an unconscionable atrocity. Murdering, burning, dismembering and displaying the corpses of victims is an unconscionable atrocity. Beheading a civilian on camera is an unconscionable atrocity. Flying planes filled with civilians, including children, into buildings filled with civilians, including children, is an unconscionable atrocity. The only truly unconscionable aspect of Urinegate is the recording of the battlefield bladder-clearing. In the YouTube era, doing a Cecil B. DeMille when the critics include the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is just plain — pardon the pun — piss-poor performing. Far be it for me to suggest the Marine Corps train the boots at Parris Island to avoid actions which might engender noisy and noisome whining from the same crowd which considers “Hanoi Jane” Fonda a hero.

Additionally, the Marines’ actions draw the worst kind of attention from an Administration that happily assumes credit for military successes, but otherwise plans to send as many servicemembers as possible to the already overlong unemployment lines.

For those of you who remain unconvinced, consider this: I wouldn’t urinate on an Islamofascist if he were on fire. The Marines will. The hell with the courts-martial; give these guys the Nobel Peace Prize.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • 45caliber

    Send them a lot of bacon – so they can dip their bullets in hog grease.

    Back in the early Vietnam days, you never heard negative things about the military. But about 1967 there was a riot in Detroit. The police couldn’t put it down, the state police couldn’t stop it, even the National guard didn’t do a thing.

    They finally called in the 101st Airborne. It turned out that the government orders were: Do not bother the rioters as long as they are not physically harming someone. In other words, don’t stop them.

    The army put down the riot by arresting anyone committing a crime such as breaking into a store to loot it.

    Within two weeks, the media stories of the military were all negative – and they have pretty well been that way ever since. They didn’t like the army ruining their good story.

  • metalflyer11

    By reading most of these posts show how well the flouride in the water have worked to dumb down our people.
    PEOPLE!!!! WAKE THE F*%& UP. THE WAR ON TERROR IS FAKE!!! Those of you that think Muslims are the enemy or want to destroy the world are being fooled by the war propaganda. Great thinking if you feel smart. The FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc… KOOLAID has sinked deep in you.
    This is the same lame tactic that all civilizations have used through history to move people to war. History, as allways, is repeating again.

    Those of you “war junkies” that call themselves coservatives have no idea what conservative is and do not have the slightest idea how the USA as the forefathers intended is supposed to work. Read the Constitution for starters and educate yourselves, otherwise I hope you enjoy the Socialist Fascist State that the USA has become.

    The next time you might see a picture like this could be des-honorable Marines like these or UN troops pissing on the dead body of a fallen American defending his/her family/property/freedom but by then they will be called terrorists.

    • 45caliber

      Well, I don’t know if it is the flouride in the water, but something is getting to you!!

      • metalflyer11

        I just can see through the bull— war propaganda and it boils my blood to see people dying on both sides for the games of the elite. I hope some day you can see that.
        Eisenhower said in his exit speach to beware of the growing “Military Industrial Complex”. This is what we have after WWII. The military serves the needs of the elites corporations in the guise of Foreign Threat & needed National Defense.
        Like James Madison said, “Tyranny to this country will come in the guise of a foreign threat”
        I just hope most of our Military & Police keep their OATH if our WHORE Government declares Martial Law on the people they swore to serve.

  • Roger Jahn

    Great article, thanks for saying what so many of us are thinking. In this age of having to judge everything by it’s “PC” factor, it’s good to know that some Americans still have backbone. Just don’t tape it next time guys…
    Hoo Ahh !

    • 45caliber

      I agree. They shouldn’t have taped it. But I suspect I know why they did.

      They were basically telling the insurgents and terrorists – “Stop what you are doing or this will also happen to you.”

  • Mrs.Jilby

    I have read of Taliban atrocities so heinous that the U.S. troops who have witnessed the results or heard about them from the local people are hesitate to name them to the general public here at home. The locals greatly fear the Taliban because there is apparently no line they will not cross over; maybe the Marines were just showing them that the Taliban fighters die just like any other man, and need not be feared or accorded any respect. However, here’s my objection to the incident: Proverbs 24:17,18. Paraphrased,it says, “Laugh not at thine enemies, lest the Lord cease to afflict them.” If the Lord gives us our strength, and the battle belongs to Him, we are not to boast of victory or belittle our enemies. It is GOD who is dealing with them, according to their wickedness; the U.S. troops are merely His instrument. I might add that if the Lord is displeased with us for rejoicing over our enemies when they fall, and ceases to afflict them, His attention may then be turned,um-m-m… elsewhere.

    • Flashy

      mrs. jilby…you quote proverbs. i am certain there is a taliban Imam quoting from the koran paraphrasing the same but inserting his side where you placed US in yours

      So are you saying their god is not the same as your god? Then you are saying there is more than one god? Or are you suggesting your god/their god are the same … so whose prayer is he listening to…yours or theirs? And are you absolutely sure on your answer?

      • Vigilant

        Don’t try to be Bill Maher. You suck at it…and don’t quit your day job.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Vigilant and Flashy,
        The Jewish God,Christian God and the Islamic God got one thing in common,they are all the same deity and this mythical being loves to start wars.In doubt? Read the Bible,it is one of the sources,the other is the Koran.

      • Joe H.

        coal miner,
        I believe you were a miner, just not for coal!! The “mine” was still deep, dark, and Dank!!! Just a little more form fitting!!! wiggle your ears bubba, feel anything???

      • Jefferson Thomas

        Wrong again miner for a heart of coal,

        The Jewish God and the Christian God are the same. The Islamo-Fascist god is none other than Lucifer (as in the inspired Satanic Verses of Mohammed, the koran).

        Where do you come up with this stuff miner?

        God doesn’t start wars, he is a God of Love, Peace, Hope, Righteousness, and yes, Judgement. Because God is omniscient he keeps the final accounting books for nations and for individuals.

        He uses nations to judge other nations for their sins and atrocities.

        Men also start wars because they wish to take without earning and producing. It is much easier for people with criminal minds who wish to acquire unearned power by stealing than by producing something of tradeable value.

        When you have integrated all of the facts of history, men’s motives, you know the secret thoughts and desires of men, then you can be the judge of the God of the Bible.

        Until then, you may want to read the Bible again with a heart that wishes to learn.

        As a former atheist I can tell you that your sources at the Skeptic’s organization, and the atheist ring aren’t going to give you all of the information that is available.

        May God Bless You and Yours with the eternal Light of his Mercy and Love

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Jefferson Thomas,

        Battle of Jericho? Remember murderous Joshua? He was ordered by God to spare no one, except the whore.You said you saw hell when you almost died.You couldn’t possibly have seen Hell.Hell doesn’t exist until the end of times.According to the Bible the dead knows nothing.You have to be resurrected on Judgement Day.Also according to the Bible both good and the evil will be judge. Hell for the wicked,Heaven for the good.You better start reading your Bible instead of coming up with all kinds of horse sh*t.To put it bluntly no one has ever seen or saw Hell,not even the Devil.He will be judge too.

      • Jefferson Thomas

        @ miner for a heart of coal,

        I will ask you again “what do you know about Canaanite culture and their heathen gods?”

        I do not remember a murderous Joshua. I remember a righteous Joshua, (his name means the Lord is our Salvation) who was the servant of the Infinite I AM, who destroyed a murderous, corrupt, and evil people for God in his Judgement.

        Can you hazard a guess as to why the whore was spared? Rahab was also in the Davidic lineage of Christ, which should tell you something about God as well.

        You must have me confused with someone else my friend. I never stated that I saw or went to hell (you may want to reference the story of Lazuras and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31 for a accurate timeline as to when one goes to hell if that is their destination…”and in hell he lifted up his eyes being in torment”) so according to Jesus, people have seen hell and are there now.

        But congratulations….you did get one thing right, the good and the evil will be judged.

  • The shootist

    I think those Marines saw the “Sham Wows” wrapped around their heads and conducted an experiment to see if they were as absorbant as “Vince” the pitch guy says they are!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      The shootist… Funny! Conan will probably use it on one of his shows!

  • TML

    The way I see it is, we should expect more honorable behavior from our troops than acting like 12 year olds as these have done. It’s just simply unacceptable. These marines have no honor, and bring themselves down to the same level as those they piss on.

    • Karolyn

      AMEN!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Such a pious bsesser.

      • Karolyn

        Gee, never heard of a bsesser! If you want to see pious, look in the mirror, Nadzieja.

      • Joe H.

        Batki,
        karolyn’s mind is a little slow, so i will do her a favor and explain. B ESSER BULL $hitter!! do you get it now, karolyn?? I think my little two year old nephew could!!!

      • Karolyn

        Joe – You’re the one who didn’t get it. It is BS-er, Not bsesser!

      • Brad

        Karolyn you’d never get it unless it was stapled to your forhead.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      TML… What is YOUR military background?

  • Steve Edwards

    I have advice to all our service members: The next time you urinate on the dead enemy. Enjoy it, but don’t record it.

  • CP

    The ONLY thing these boys did wrong was record what they were doing, or allow it to be recorded. I am not sure who recorded the act, nor am I sure why it was placed on you tube, where it was sure to draw fire from the powers that be, but that was the mistake, not what they did. And yes, I HAVE been to see the beast, albeit in a place and time that is usually better left unnmamed.

  • http://Hogue/JohnnyLeeClary Dale Hogue

    So it has come to this, this enemy is treated as enemies have always been treated during war time and the liberals among us cry in their beer because this is so. The enemy in this video are not the marines, for they have been on the frontline in this war almost from the very beginning. The real enemy is lying at the feet of our marines and are being administered to in a perfectly legitimate way given the circumstances created by the Islamist who started this war in the first place.

    • Flashy

      OK Dale…there are more than a few vets on this forum. How many have urinated on the bodies of the dead? How many would cheer on their comrades in arms if they were present when the body of a dead enemy was urinated on?

      That atrocities in war occur is undeniable. That such are cheered on by the armchair quarterbacks who don’t have enough backbone to stand up for America when their rights were stripped away during the Bush/Cheney administration is blatantly hypocritical and shows the barbarians amongst us.

      the next time an American soldier’s body is mutilated and shown publically….y’all have no standing to object … not one

      • 45caliber

        Flashy:

        After serving two years in a combat zone, I never urinated on a dead body. But if I saw someone else who did, I wouldn’t say anything nor would I think anything of it. The body is dead.

        There are reasons for things like this that a lib who is afraid of the military would never understand. Such as telling the enemy that “this could also happen to you if you don’t change your ways.”

      • Flashy

        45…why didn’t you? Would you be proud if you did?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are such a Fool.

      • Angel Wannabe

        C’mon Flashy, your posting just to stir the pot..___I really hope your not being paid by Soro’s to post this crap, he’s losing money cuz you suck at it!

      • Doug

        I am sure Farty has no problem with abortion if only his mother would have been like a lot of liberals and used it for birth control, and then it would have actually been pest control!

      • Flashy

        Doug…let me ask you…did your mother ever find out at least the first the name of your father during that hour she spent with him?

      • 45caliber

        Flashy:

        Why should I have bothered? It wouldn’t have mattered one way or the other. Generally, I didn’t need to go anyway.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Flashy–I will say this again–you do not KNOW what the taliban do to our dead soldiers, do you? I hear they cut off heads, take any personal effects, etc. BEFORE they kill them. Do you approve of this?

      • Flashy

        Claire…I NEVER SAID I appored of any of those atrocities. that they occur is fact. What I am saying is we, as Americans, have and should always continue to hold oruselves above that level of barbaric act. to approve of it, cheer it on, and yes…with some of the posters here yelling for it … lowers this great Nation to the level of the barbarians.

      • Joe H.

        45caliber,
        There’s an old saying that “those that can do, those that can’t teach”! with Flushy, it’s “Those that CAN fight, do. Those that CAN’T fight, JUDGE!!”

      • cawmun cents

        Those are tall words for a pro-abortionist.
        But what do I know?
        Apparently very little……
        -CC.

      • Sirian

        Your are most certainly correct 45, they will never understand! It doesn’t matter how much its tried to get it through their titanium encapsulated minds they will always find some comfortable excuse – always!

    • eddie47d

      Sorry but you are mistaken Dale. It was our intervention in the Middle East many years ago that brought forth the wrath from the “Islamists”. It was mainly the Saudis who insulted us but they are untouchable.

  • Karolyn

    It is obviously not just liberals who think this was a despicable thing to do. I have talked to several conservatives I know who think it was disgusting. It goes to show the mentality of too many people in this country – the ones who want to wipe Iran off the face of the earth as an example. And wouldn’t you know it? Most of them are men! I am personally acquainted with one soldier with this type of mentality, and I think he’s a pretty sick cookie, although he went into the Army as a very nice 18 year old. Now, he is a bitter, angry, ill-mannered 32 year old. That’s what the Army and war have done to him. He will be lucky if he keeps his beautiful wife and son. Another thing that bugs me is tht these guys were stupid enough to let somebody videotape them! Certainly not the brightest bulbs in the bunch! I thought Marines were special. The US has always maintained that it is better than its enemies. This demonstrates the opposite.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Karolyn, “I thought Marines were special. ”

      They are special Karolyn, a few bad apples doesn’t spoil the whole bunch__C’mon, Good Grief!

      ..and besides why does anyone care what these kids did, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL HAVE TO ULTIMATELY PAY FOR IT!

      • Karolyn

        Well, Angel, we are all responding to Ben’s article, which was specifically written to bring us here to yell at each other. That’s why. This type of thing brings out the worst in people. I am so grateful not to have to spend time in the company of those who applaud this type of action and have similar views. I have a fairly calm, stress-free life these days and want to keep it that way. However, when faced with some of these writings, I feel it is incumbent on me to respond. Yeah, these kids are paying for it; they should.

      • Smilee

        This article and many others on this site says an awful lot about the lack of character of owners of this site. There is a lot of shameful articles here and this is amongst the worst

      • libertytrain

        My goodness smilee – if the articles are so offensive to your sensitive soul, why do you keep coming back over and over and over again. That makes no sense.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Hey Smilee, why dontcha sweep in front of your own door, before trying to clean someones elses! :)

      • JeffH

        Smilee, then head back to the Kos or Newsvine if you want something you can wrap your hands around and embrace.

        Life’s a biatch and then you die!

    • Vigilant

      “And wouldn’t you know it? Most of them are men!

      Spoken like a true member of the “She-woman Man Haters Club.”

      • Karolyn

        Truth is truth. I don’t know any women like those on this site who condone this type of action, but I have known, and do know many men who do.

      • libertytrain

        I don’t know. I have never been put in the kinds of situations our men and women are…fortunately. It’s just too easy to judge on the outside trying to look into a window we can’t see in.

      • http://deleted Claire

        War can cause many conflicting issues as to what is right and what is wrong and what the proper conduct is. Urinating on the dead talibans may not have been the “proper thing” to do, however, if I were in the same scenario for 2-3 years, God only knows what mental mindset I would have. I have no respect for the taliban dead or alive. Do you ever wonder what the taliban does to our dead soldiers? Think about that. People will think I am not “moral” but lets consider our soldiers and their welfare first, not the taliban. At this point in time, I just want our troops the hell out of that rat-infested hole.

      • libertytrain

        Claire – you said that so well – I have to agree with you.

      • http://deleted Claire

        libertytrain—To me, our troops come first and foremost. War is war, and one never knows what it is like unless they are there. I can only imagine what goes on, but that is beside the point. I care only about our troops. I care only about their welfare and safety. War does strange things to people, and this war is uncalled for and futile. I don’t care what anyone thinks, our troops should be brought home now, right this minute and to heck with those countries. Some of those countries have fought like animals since the beginning of time. They will never stop it. I despise the fact that so many of our troops have been killed.

      • JeffH

        Vigilant, :) ! Since Karolyn’s arrival here she’s had a chip on her shoulder when it comes to men.

      • Vigilant

        Jeff, I believe you’re right. I’ll refrain from making a comment out of “sensitivity” considerations.

        …But I will say, I’ve got nothing against women.

      • JeffH

        Hear Hear!

      • Karolyn

        I have nothing against men in general. However, the majority of men do carry many of the same traits that make them angry, controlling and macho; they really can’t help it. Fortunately, there are many also who are in tune with their sensitive side and are open to viewing things differently. If you sat in on a conversation of women, you would inevitably find the same complaints about men across the board. It just is what it is. The reason we have wars is men.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Women are not sensitive contrary to what men are being told, and it is a tactic that women will use to manipulate men.

      • Karolyn

        Nadzieja – I would suggest you do a little research and study before posting something so wrong.

      • Joe H.

        karolyn,
        I suggest YOU research Golda Meier!!! In case you don’t remember her, she was prime minister of Isreal, and quite a corker!!! do something to her people and see what happens!! OH, BTW, she was a……..WOMAN!!!

      • libertytrain

        Joe, I actually think Golda was quite an amazing woman. Still remember a poster from the late 60′s with a big black and white picture of her and the line underneath it was “But can she type?” – I loved that poster and wish I had one now.

      • http://deleted Claire

        libertytrain- Yes, I agree with you- Golda was an amazing woman.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You don’t know any conservatives and if you did they wouldn’t be talking to you.

      • Karolyn

        Just shows how much you don’t know!

    • skyraider 6

      You are wrong Karolyn, they are SPECIAL
      Korea ’52

    • Joe H.

      karolyn,
      Those conservatives probably agreed with you to get rid of you!! If I were physically in the same room with you, that would be MY plan, just to GET RID OF YOU!!!

  • Dale S

    How sad is our government. The marines certainly shouldn’t have videotaped what they did and honestly should not have done it. But it is nothing to what the terrorist who shot all the innocent people at Fort Hood did. Yet Obama and the media have continually put the Fort Hood incident in the background when the guy should have been hung in a public place immediately.

  • Free Mind

    Jihad works both ways…Semper Fi!

  • Dino

    These Marines were wrong to urinate on the dead Taliban. They should have videoed themselves slaughtering a pig and draining the blood on the Taliban terrorists. Then dig a mass grave for the terrorists with the pig carcass thrown on top. That is what these animals deserve.

    • Karolyn

      You first! What kind of mind comes up with this crap?

      • Flashy

        The mind of the American Taliban and anti American Karolyn…

        Wonder who their heroes are … (bet they don’t have any)

      • Doug

        Hey Fart for brains look up General Pershing and see what he did to the Muzzies bastards.

      • Flashy

        I just did. From his biographer when asked about that fake claim … you guys make stuff up so much and spread lies with casual ease. It’s no wonder the TP is led by the nose and you are robots needing to be told what to fear and hate…, jeesh ….

        “I never found any indication that it was true in extensive research on his Moro experiences,” Vandiver wrote. “This kind of thing would have run completely against his character.”

      • Joe H.

        Flushy,
        you conveniently forgot to add the other part of that sentence, which was: IN MY OPINION!!! Dr. Vandiver said IN HIS OPINION it was false. Unless it comes from someone who was THERE or ole BLACKJACK himself, it is NO proof!!

      • Dino

        For Flashy and Karolyn,
        I said what I meant and I meant what I said. My heroes a John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, George Patton, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and many more great Americans. You somehow must equate burning, dragging through the streets, hanging corpses from a bridge, and public beheadings of Americans as morally correct. If you don’t like what I have to say, then please feel free to move to the Muslim country of your choice and live with those “sanctimonious” Taliban you so fervently protect, emphasize, and identify with.

      • Dino

        Flashy and Karolyn, I forgot to mention that my biggest HEROES are the members of our military that have fought and died for your right to say what you want and to live comfortably without fear of some religious fanatic torturing and killing you for your beliefs and mine. My son has been over there fighting for you and all Americans. Wake up and realize these “benevolent” and “peaceful” Taliban terrorists hide behind women, children, mosques, and anything they can find, so they can continue to torture, kill, and maim innocent people all over the world. Please, put your money where you mouth is and go live among them.

      • Joe H.

        Dino,
        Better still they should go over there and fight them for awhile THEN they could give us their opine!! At least, then they would KNOW what they are talking about!!

      • Joe H.

        PS,
        Tell your son I said God Bless and I wish ALL the best for him!!! I keep a yellow ribbon on my flag pole year round and will continue till they are all home. Tell him it is, in part, there for him!!

      • Dino

        Thank you Joe H., I appreciate your support. One last statement and I will not post anymore. (For Flashy & Karolyn) I believe when our troops fight, they should fight to WIN. They are NOT policemen of the world. Their job is to kill people and break things, period. They pissed on an animal, so what. I stand behind my original statement 110%, hit them where it really counts with anything and everything!

      • http://deleted Claire

        Dino– I heartily agree with your comment. I have a son and I can only imagine how you must feel. My son was in the Air Guard working on radar after his duty in the Air Force. I can remember during Desert Storm when they were calling up men from the various military guards. I was at work and a guy from the Print Shop came in and told me that he just heard over the radio that they called up the entire 183rd. I sat at my desk and the tears rolled down my cheeks. My son called me within a few minutes and asked me if I would take care of his dog while he was gone, and I said I would. My son was prepared to go. But the radio station had it all wrong, because they quickly corrected their mistake in reporting. Only a few men were called up from the 183rd and my son was not one of them. I will never forget how I felt that day. My point is that I am proud of my son and I know you are very proud of your son. God bless your son and God bless you.

      • cawmun cents

        I may not stand side by each with Marines who are urinating on dead men,or liberals who since Roe vs.Wade,have made sure that nearly 50,000,000 helpless pre-birth human beings were put to death,but I will stand next to them in solidarity for their right to believe that,that is okay.
        Actually,I have reservations about the latter,but hey we are all Americans here right?
        -CC.

      • Brad

        It sure isn’t you Flashy and or Karolyn the Kommunist.

  • former walmart person

    This is all just a giant destraction. The news networks need to fill each day with news and they dare not touch on real news like how the NDAA allows for indefinite detention of American citizens (something NO ONE in the mainstream media is talking about), how the global eugenics agenda continues via sky spraying (have you stopped and looked at our sky these days??? Its a darn tic tac toe board up there with the darn jet spraying – DONT sit there and tell me these are mere “contrails”. Did anyone over 40 remember seeing these jet trails like that in the 50s and 60s?), etc.

    CNN or Fox news probably told the marines to piss on the dead taliban to their objection so they could have a new distraction. Who knows if and how the marines were threatened or bribed to comply. Ok maybe this is genuine marine pissing behavior but we quite simply have bigger things to wory about than a couple piss happy marines.

  • Eugene G Wierzbicki

    Correction to my above comment, If you are current as to what is happening in this world then you would know that these terrorist’s don’t care what you think is inhumane or dispicable they have been trained since birth to kil us and that’s how it is.Just Like my ex wife’s son,his Mom lied and stole almost everything in a Divorce and he says,”She’s my Mom I don’t care” And he condones this and calls himself a Christian.

    The Marines have seen all sort’s of grusome death’s and they are still willing to protect us all including those who wno trample the name Marine!Liberal progressives only care about their own agenda.

    • Karolyn

      Who cares what THEY think or believe! We should be BETTER than them!

      • Brad

        Todays Military is the best trained and equiped in the world, the US military holds their personnel to the highest standards, but until you have been in combat, until you have seen your buddy chopped up by the enemy you have nothing concrete to say…

  • Alf

    Couldn’t have said it better or more succinctly S C. Amen.

  • skyraider 6

    Must be on welfare Go Marines
    Semper Fi you wonderful Americans

  • Marti

    Atrocities committed by these lowest of low scum lower than low animals deserve to be defacated on!!
    The best of the best is being besmirched by the left wing idiots?
    War is hell!! Get over it lefties, you are no better than the scum being uraninated on.

    • Flashy

      Here here ! Let’s be just like they are ! doesn’t it make you so proud that Americans want to be just like terrorists and barbarians !

      • GRusling

        Not true Flashy… Marines don’t want to BEHEAD anyone…

      • Flashy

        To the great disappointment of the American Taliban I’m sure. Are you proud to cheer on our being like the enemy GR?

      • Brad

        Talking about the grat Taliban the OWS gang, they are the ones who crap on cars, flags, other people and expect others to clean up their mess. They have brought drugs, desease and death to their taliban style movement and you call our armed forces barbarians, no the barbarians whom disrespect our country both internally and externally are the ones who cry foul first when perceived grievance has occured.

      • Blue Devil

        Flashy — Get off your soapbox and leave the arguments about the ethics of war to those who have actually fought a war. You, obviously have not!

      • eddie47d

        Obviously these pictures of this incident was taken by a fellow Marine who didn’t feel it was right. Yes please do leave it to soldiers who do have a conscience and a moral imperative to their country.

      • Flashy

        Sure Blue..just as soon as you feel it imporper to speak about racial minorities overblowing their situation and facing discrimination and racism. Just as soon as you stop ranting about illegal immigration (or are you an undocumented alient?). just as soon as you can name one American hero who would act like these marines…

        OK?

      • Brad

        Great point flashy, you’re the first to use the race card why is that, no constructive thoughts in your pea brain of a mind. As we all know it an illegal alien from another country is still illegal, they broke the law, our imigration laws and should be treated as the criminal they are.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy, why don’t you put a sock in it!___ I’m a little tired if this race crap!!!__Minorities have the same rights as the rest of us, to work they’re way up the Class ladder if they so choose. NO ONE holds anyone back unless they choose it!__Nothing is handed on a silver platter unless your a Rockefeller, in most folks world ya gotta work for what ya!__Who the H*ll cares what color they are except YOU!

      • Blue Devil

        Flashy — I don’t recall having said a word about illegal immigration, but that is beside the point. Am I an illegal alien? It depends upon how you look at it. None of my ancestors came to what is now The United State with passports or immigration visas, but they have been here longer than the United States have and passports, immigration visas, etc. had not yet been invented. My mother’s family came to North America sometime in the mid-to-late 1600′s, and my father’s ancestors were here to meet them. Ihave no birth certificate because I was born at home and delivered by a midwife, a not uncommon occurence in the 1920′s, when I was born. However, my Army discharge lists my citizenship as U.S. and that was good enough for the State Department, back in 1967, when they issued my passport. Do you have either one?

      • Flashy

        Never played the race card…you guys are so full of it you hide behind it every chance you get. I merely pointed out if y’all believe i cannot comment on the morality of how my nation’s military personnel conducts themselves, then you should not be commenting on areas which you have no experience in.

      • Joe H.

        Flushy,
        how about answering Blue Devils question??? DO YOU???

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are so sensitive and know how everyone should behave because you will make them.
        You are such a phony.

  • pete

    For those who are not veterans and do not know the classics.. what the Marines did is a time honored tradition. Achilles did something similar to Hector.

    • Flashy

      Wow….you must have red a different verisonh of the Iliad than what is generally put forth as that classic.

      Hector embodies a sense of nobility that Achilles does not share. He fights for not only himself, but for the cause of Troy, his kingdom, and its pride. Achilles fights Hector for revenge. hector is the noble warrior in the Iliad, Achilles the assassin.

      Interesting you used the analogy. When hector was killed, the gods mourned and were saddened…and Achilles was per se doomed from the moment he desecrated the body of Hector. When Achilles was killed, not many were saddened.

  • Billythekid

    The marines should have stripped them naked and dragged them through the streets by their heels and have everyone spit on them. That’s what was done to our marines and soldiers. The only good taliban or militant is a dead one. Go marines! kill everyone of them.

    • Flashy

      name an American hero who would have done that. Go ahead.

      • Doug

        Patton, Bradley, Westmoreland you have no clue Farty cause you never served in the military or have a clue. Hell you crap in your pants when you here a car back fire. Its liberals like you that are indeed the enemy of our country do us all a favor take all your heros, Obozo, Pelosi, Reed, Schmuler or what ever is name is and go to Venezuela and see how well you do!

      • Joe H.

        Doug,
        Please don’t put Westy in the same company as Patton or any other good soldier!! He is responsible for the deaths of many good men by falsifying enemy strength reports, sometimes reporting twice the enemy KIAs to make it look like we were doing better than we were and make him look good. Just think what it is like to enter an area to fight say, 1000 enemy when in actuality there are 2000 or even 3000. We won every major battle there, yet some were by the grace of GOD!

      • cawmun cents

        Truth is,I have never met a”Hero”.
        So I couldnt say what a”Hero”would do.
        I have met soldiers though.
        Met folks who fought in wars.
        Many of them view an enemy body as(their quote,not mine)
        a”bag of $#!t.”You see,once life has left the enemy,he is no longer worthy of consideration by most of the soldiers I have spoken with and known.If he goes to be with Allah,or Jehovah,or whoever he sees as his personal god,he is no longer present in the body.
        Obviously the Muslims feel that way too from the many stories I have heard.
        Only the tabloid-like press and media/academics,will make much of a feww jackasses urinating on dead bodies.
        Yes it is disrepectful,and I am not defending their actions,nor justifying them either.But we must remember that these folks plant bombs by the side of the road because they are too cowardly to face the current armed forces of the U.S.They are both outgunned and under funded,and as a result they conscript youth that we would consider too young for service.They use ideology from the seventh century to apply to todays world.Not through spiritual formulae,but through laws that subject their women to be both physically mutilated,and uneducated.Many of them do not have more than a rudimentary education themselves.They fight to keep things as they have been in that area for millenia.They are what flashy and the other liberals would call conservatives.Trying to keep progressives from running their country into thhe dirt,like they are attempting to do here.
        However,because they are anything but Christian,the liberals will give them a pass on their obvious deficiencies.
        You see folks,as long as you are not Christian,you can get away with trying to keep progressives from ruining the planet for the rest of us.Call yourself Christian and you are the very worst human beings who ever treaded the earth.To Flashman and the liberal mob,Christians are the ones with contracts on their heads.You could be a Muslim child molester and you are a beeter human being than a Christian evangelist to the liberal mob.
        The truth comes at a high price.
        Most dont have the internal fortitude to be hated that way.
        So,when folks who come from a supposedly Christian nation go around urinating on corpses of their fallen enemies,I can see how that could reflect on the U.S.in a bad way.To me it seems as if tasteless acts by people who claim to be Christians,can make those who dont know the preponderence of Americans to see that we all act thusly.
        But real Christians dont urinate on the enemy either,so perhaps though Christian America will have relational difficulties with many nations as a result,some will see that like all Muslims dont want to see all Christians and Jewish people dead,maybe all Christians dont urinate on deceased casualties.
        But I wouldnt hold my breath expecting that to be true.
        Just like I wouldnt hold my breath expecting the media/academia to see Christians in a positive light any time soon.-CC.

      • NC

        Best question yet, Flashy!!

  • s c

    Let me think. We’re in yet ANOTHER locale where we’re not allowed to win, we’re expected to ‘live up’ to a higher standard than the enemy, our “leaders” don’t know why we’re there, the situation amounts to another Vietnam, the enemy enjoys protected status, the other enemy [the useless SCUM in Washington] are STILL conducting a war that they SUPPOSEDLY hate, and the American people aren’t entitled to anything more than a fleeting opinion.
    Let’s try another approach. Let our ‘fearless leaders’ trade places with our military (shucks, they can do ANYTHING, can’t they?]. Bring our fathers, brothers, uncles, nephews, sons and neighbors HOME.
    Let us SEE how our ‘fearless leaders’ react to being shot at, IEDs, let them get beheaded, tell them they can’t fire at the enemy because the enemy has MORE rights than they do, remind them that when they come home they’ll be treated like potential terrorists and tell them they’re expected to be happier than pigs in a sty just because they got to see a foreign country and didn’t have to pay to get there.
    DEFINITELY! So, when do we see our “fearless leaders” line up to do what American civilians DON’T? When do our Washington stud muffins and muffetts act like BRAVE men and women?
    When do our media whores volunteer to tell the truth and stop acting like a branch of the ENEMY?
    Good luck, you Washington SOBs. Have fun. Write often. Take extra shorts. We’ll babysit your family. Just don’t ask when OR if you get to come home.

    • Lynne

      Right on, s c. Loved this article, Bob, thanks!

    • Vagabond

      S C why dont you go ahesd and tell us just how you feal about the SOBs? as usual you do a great job,

      • s c

        Vagabond, I’m being polite. Bob Livingston won’t let me ‘let it flow’ when it’s time to describe SCUM to a tee. Besides, it’s hard to be brief when 30 paragraphs would be required to come close to showing our “leaders” for who and what they truly are. Describing their cave-dwelling, filthy retard “followers” would take even more paragraphs. It would take a book – and I know most of them can’t read.

      • JeffH

        V, I’ll second that!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      SC…. Great post! You really know your stuff and how to say it!

    • Joe H.

      SC,
      I have a 27 year old nephew who is single that just said he would be willing to babysit Dennis kooksinich’s wife for him, ANYTIME he wanted!!!! that takes care of ONE politician, and a DEM at that!!!

    • NC

      SC. Speaking of knowing when they are “coming home”, which Republican “leader” in the last two general elections has received the most donations from the Americans citizens who cherish “Coming home” the most? Mr. Paul from the Americans military. The candidate who says bring them home and keep them here!WONDER WHY THAT APPEALS SO MUCH TO OUR BRAVE MEN OVER THERE? ARE THEY STARTING TO SAY”FOR WHAT’? DO THEY SEE THAT ALL WARS ARE NOT GOOD WARS?
      We can KILL in Afghanistan until our guns melt and the mountains still win! They always have! The USSR with a common border(zero suppy line) and many many ground troops marched in and had to march right back out. We need to come home and use our technology to fight our battles! That’s what we mortgaged our children for!

  • http://printing-for-profit.com Gary

    I think they were actually showing respect by poring honorable US liquids on the bodies such as Coors Lite and Jack Danials. Since Islam bans alcohol they were doing the right thing by removing the alcohol by filtering it in their kidneys

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You forgot something. The Marines and also our military have been told not to pee in certain directions during their stay. This is supposed to be disrespectful to the natives.
      Someone forgot to mention that water always seeks its lowest level.

  • Eugene G Wierzbicki

    Ivf you are current with what is happening in this world then you would know that these terrorists don’t care about what you think is dispicable or unhumane they just have been trained to kill us and that is how it is! Just like my ex wife who lied to steal all I owned in a divorce ‘She’s my Mom I don’t care” ad he calls him self a cristian Marines have see it all and they still are willing to die to protect us from these vermin.

    • Karolyn

      Too bad they’re dieing for nothing!

      • Brad

        Their dieing to keep others free, don’t you understand the concept!

      • Karolyn

        They’re dieing for politics! Ron Paul 2012!

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        A soldier, sailor, airman and marine all pray for peace, it’s the politician who declares war that we must fight even when we don’t agree with them. Today it’s Ohmama’s politics and yes we are out of Iraq, now look at what’s happening in Iraq today, more blood shed and for what, it’s shia against sunni. Iraq the great civil war is right around the corner the hand writting is on the wall.

      • Brad

        By the way Ron Paul doesn’t have a snow balls chance of gaining the RNC presidential nomination, just my opinion.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Why don’t you take their place so none of them have to die. But you being there appeasing would be scarier.

      • eddie47d

        Why doesn’t Nadzieja enlist with all her words of wisdom. Sgt. York you are not!

      • Joe H.

        Nadzieja Batki,
        karolyn wouldn’t last two seconds after she stepped off the aircraft in the Middle East!!! Unless, of course the enemy was laughing too hard to pull the trigger!!!

  • Jerry Lynch

    I am a proud Democrat and will vote for President Obama again next fall. Would you stop with the lies about “crimes” and such! It is a disgrace what those “soldiers did to corpses of enemy people. Nobody deserves to have their corpses desecrated and I would be among the first to jump on those “few the proud (oh really?) the marines” if I wasn’t already 60 years old.

    PS: Stan Smith. you are the “Ugly American” that everyone in other countries uses as fodder for their anti-American rhetoric. From the sounds of your drivel you probably will have to get out a dictionary just to look up the words “rhetoric” and “drivel”. They were meant to be an insult to you.

    • Stan Smith

      I see a Libtard supporter of a terrorist is Jerry Lynch! You are a ugly non american Commie Libtard! I see a libtard like you jumping for joy when ragheads maim and cut off the heads of our military guys, and killing and raping women and children, Libtard like you making excuses for them! What you Libtards always say they are misunderstood! I will Flame you and keep insulting you Libtard jerry! I already bitch slapped you! Go back to your hate site of Daily KOS!You Old crusty hippie of the 60′s reject! That’s is a insult to you Libtard!

      • Tazio2013

        @ Stan Smith and in support of Jerry Lynch’s comments

        SS seems to be a typical retarded white wing wacko on whom an intelligent vocabulary is wasted. And just to confuse poor old SS, I offer the following quote from Euripides: “To the fool, he who speaks wisdom will sound foolish.” And:

        The best way I know to win an argument is to start by being in the right. – Lord Hailshan

        Tuam libera mentem
        Sapere aude
        Semper fi!

      • Vagabond

        tazio I see you have had your morning koolaid. now go back to bed and sllep off the fog. you sound just as STUPID as jerry lynch,

      • Davis

        Tazio,

        Spoken like a true A**Hole. What rock did you come out from? Either Love our Nation or I’ll gladly buy your ticket to where ever you want to live!

      • Vigilant

        “The best way I know to win an argument is to start by being in the right. – Lord Hailshan”

        Tazio, you lose.

      • Vigilant

        “Yabadabadoo” – Fred Flintstone

      • eddie47d

        So Davis apparently equates peeing on a body to loving your nation. Sorry not buying that one.

      • Stan Smith

        Tazio2013 I see a another Libtard crying for a Dead Muzzy terrorist! another typical Commie Libtard

      • Stan Smith

        BTW Tazio what makes you think I’m a White wing Whacko?? sorry Libtard puke! I’m a Mexican decent! It’s you whitey Libtards are the racist pukes using my people like sheep, so gringo Libtardo Puke go back to your Democrap KKK hate group!

      • Ranger 1

        Dear Jerry and Tazio: I’m a bit surprised that a couple of writers like yourselves, both obviously well educated and reasonably intelligent, would make a valiant attempt to get through to the likes of the 95% of those who respond to any of Bob Livingston’s articles, who, based solely on their misspelled words, grammatical goofups, and garbled syntax, are mostly morons, imbeciles, or idiots!!!!!! First, Ben Crystal, the author of this diatribe about urinating on dead Taliban, was obviously not prior service. Second, most of the folks who have responded in support, who apparently suffer from some sort of “cranial constipation”, similarly have no clue about the moral expectations of U.S. servicemen and women. As a retired Colonel of Infantry, U.S. Army, after 32 years of service, including being in Special Ops as a Company Commander and Battalion Cmdr, to say that what these Marines did was unprofessional is truly an understatement, and reflects poorly on their leaders, both NCO’s and Officers. I can absolutely assure you that members of our best, most elite and professional units, including Rangers, SEALS, and by far our best Special Ops unit, the Army’s Delta Force, would never behave in this manner. We know that our behavior in situations like this is what separates us from the enemy. Having said that, when I attended War College back in 86-87, the subject of my thesis (a bit like getting a Master’s or PhD), was ‘Strategic Implications of the Middle East”, so I spent the better part of two years becoming what DoD would later refer to as “An Expert of the Middle East”. With that background and knowledge I can assure you that our entire 10 year “adventure” into the Middle East, especially 2 absolutely unnecessary wars, will historically be regarded in the same way that we now look back on our decade in Vietnam, . . namely, it was all a huge mistake! As a lifelong registered Republican, it distresses me that my party has clearly “lost its way, and appears to be in the hands of a bunch of Greedy SOB’s Male Chauvinist Pigs, and religious wacko’s. Ah, for a return to the days of TR, or Ike, the last decent Republican Presidents we’ve had. It’s so sad that no one took to heart Ike’s admonition during his farewell address, “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist”. “We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together”.

      • Karolyn

        Thank you Ranger for your excellent post and your service.

      • Joe H.

        ranger,
        The one thing I keep remembering from VietNam, where my unit inserted special forces, seals, and regular troops everyday and can’t seem to forget is a green beenie who had a finger, dried and ugly around his neck on a chain!!! don’t insult my intelligence by trying to tell me that it wasn’t done by special forces. The man told me he made sure the guy didn’t shoot any more of his buddies, by taking his trigger finger. these things happen in all wars, and no type of unit is immune after living with death as a bunk mate daily for a year or more!! This is not to say I fully agree with it, but I do understand what drives some to it!! Perhaps as an officer you should do some reflection as to what YOU officers have put human beings through on a daily basis while you are buffered from it by your collar!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        JoeH, Well said Joe!_Amen and Amen!

      • cawmun cents

        Really?
        Not one of the Rangers I have ever met has ever used the phrase,”Male Chauvinist Pig”.
        But some have,as I am told,enjoyed cold beer drank from a human skull.
        What unit did you you serve in Ranger,just curious?

      • Vagabond

        that is an insult to you? no Stan thats no insult to IDIOTS like jerry lynch. what kind of yellow bellied IDIOT hides behind age? I am 76 years old and I will duke it out in a heart beat.I was Army then Air Force. but I respect those leathernecks. and I think they should all be SPOT PROMOTED TO THE NEXT PAY GRADE,

      • Davis

        Vagabond, Spoken like a true Patriot. This is from another Who served 35 years Air Force Active and Reserve. God Bless!

      • Flashy

        So Davis…did you urinate on enemy dead?

      • Joe H.

        Vagabond and Davis,
        flashy pissed on the enemy…..When he pissed his pants at the sight of them!!!

      • Stan Smith

        @ Vagabond I would like to see that old crusty Libtard Jerry go to VA home and provoke 60 year old plus former retired Marines and try to kick their ass! Jerry will be knocked out flat cold! Jerry is like all Libards making excuses for those radical muzzies, And cry like Chris Crocker Leave them alone “sob boo hooo” These muzzy never did nothing to you, they are misunderstood! It’s inhuman kill these terrorist, Just leave them alone Whaaa!

      • NC

        Vagabond,I,too,am 76 years old and served in the Marines but I am less than proud of the conduct of those Marines. We are humans before we are servicemen or Americans. Wild animals pee on their dead!

        ben crystal attended the same collge as President Woodrow Wilson! I dare say the President would have approved of that conduct> Or President Obama or President Reagan. crystal brings no honor to his fine College with his rant.

    • Vigilant

      Here we go again. A la Abu Graib, killing of terrorists is OK, but urinating on them is “unconscionable.” As Mr. Crystal says, “liberals…live in a world where the choices range between dichotomy and duplicity.”

      These are the same liberals who advocate partial birth abortion, where it’s OK to murder a viable infant AND then dispose of the remains in a garbage can. Or the bleeding hearts who will bleat for an illegal immigrant’s “right” to be released from prison to commit more heinous crimes, but say nary a word when that alien rapes and murders again.

      Save your beath, Stan. When Mr. Lynch says, “I am a proud Democrat and will vote for President Obama again next fall,” he’s already identified himself as someone whose IQ is firmly seated in the lowest quartile of the Bell Curve.

      • Angel Wannabe

        “Hear, Hear”, Vigilant!

      • Joe H.

        Vigilant,
        more likely in the lower quadrant of his anatomy!!!

      • Vigilant

        LOL! Good one!

      • NC

        Viligant, in the end what was accomplished at Abu Graib? Was it why the general in the field made the statement.”we are creating more terrorist than we are killing.” What would he know that you didn’t?
        Tell me one more time why in H*ll we were at Abu Graib to start with!

    • Angel Wannabe

      Jerry Lynch, <- One Sandwich short of a picnic!

      • Sirian

        Angel,
        One sandwich short of a picnic and not playing with a full deck for sure.

      • Cliffystones

        I prefer one brain cell above a total vacuum!

      • Vagabond

        Angel he is short a bunch of sandwiches and all of the drinks.

      • JeffH

        Jerry must be from Commie-fornia…

      • Angel Wannabe

        JeffH, LMAO!!!

    • Flashy

      Wow…to cheer on urination on corpses. Absolute proof the barbarians live amongst us.

      Not so difficult to believe once realizes the American Taliban is active and working covertly to undermine our nation. They desecrate the bodies of our military KIA. It does not sit well in any way shape or form. So is it unexpected the same reaction would come from the native population there? of course not. Does it show them what civilized effective militries should act like? of course not. Does it belie the messages the general populace of the ME receives that the US is barbaric, uncivilized and should be destroyed. Of course not. Does it make for a safer more secure environment for our ocverseas soldiers? No way.

      And thus the desecration is cheered on by the ignorant masses comprising the wacked right and the American Taliban. They will only be satisfied when we ourselves are barbaric and without moral character.

      Can anyone ever imagine John Wayne doing this? John Wayne, the Duke. The purest image of American morals and values. He wouldn’t waste spit on the likes of Stan Smith or Ben Crystal.

      ’nuff said

      • Vagabond

        ok flashy you have had your morning koolaid. again I will say they should have taken a crap in their faces. and again they should all be spot promoted to the next highes grade. further IDIOTS like you should be drafted and sent straight to combat so you might learn something. and for your information I have over 20 years of military service,

      • Blue Devil

        Vagabond, I don’t believe that Flashy can be drafted. I don’t think that he is out of diapers yet!

      • Flashy

        I have my draft card still…never pulled any stuts to escape the draft like Bush/Cheney etc did …

      • Joe H.

        Flushy,
        did you at least serve in the national guard like Bush??? Or did you shoot yourself in the foot so you didn’t have to go? Wait you hate guns, wouldn’t be that!! I know, you used a psych deferment, right???

      • Flashy

        Joe…a) i hunted when i was a young lad. b) no, didn’t go into the Guard. c) my draft number was three higher than the ones drafted, though i had chosen the Army if i had to go. d) bush went AWOL from the Guard…

      • libertytrain

        Flashman – you’re so funny typical lib left – IF all else fails and you can’t claim racism -blame or use or name George W Bush.

      • Stan Smith

        Let’s see When you take a crap, when you flush the toilet then you see a little brown nugget floating back and swimming around in your toilet bowl, The brown nugget is Flushy, He refused to be flushed away with the rest of the Libturds!The little nugget Flushy keeps Posting his Libtard garbage with his Daily KOS buddies! Sorry Flushy you lose with your Libtard nonsense David H and other smacked you so many time with their facts! It’s time for you to join your Libturds buddies at the sewer plant!

      • GRusling

        Let me refer you to the immortal words of Lt. Col. (and US Representative) Allen West: “unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell!”

        I’m sure you would feel ever-so-tender, had you been there, toward a group of men who, up until their very timely demise had been trying their best to KILL YOU and all your friends! Of course, you WERE NOT there and probably never have been, so you have no idea what you’re talking about! …

      • Angel Wannabe

        Oh Flashy, When you get your cloak, become ordained and show us ALL how well you can walk on water we’ll listen, until then Shut the Hell up. Mr Perfect!__I didn’t see any pictures of your azz in middle east gettin’ shot at, ya puke!

      • Flashy

        I sit here and utterly amazed that y’all are chering this. Seriously. I think of Amercian heros throughout our history…from Washington to those at the Alamo, Alvin York, George Patton, Audie Murphy to those who are currently fighting overseas. Not one can I think of that would cheer desecration of the dead. Not one can i picture desecrating bodies of those they killed.

        I can easily recall the anger and horror seeing American bodies desecrated. kind of made one want revenge. There was no honor in those treating the dead like that.

        y’all want to act and cheer on barbaric acts? feel free. But don’t sit there and denigrate Americans who desire to think of American soldiers as heroes. You want to think of American soldiers as being like the enemy. I don’t.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy__ How’s ’bout gettin a grip! No ones sayin they were right, but WHAT was done IS DONE, IF they ARE to be reprimanded, IT should be “WITHIN THE MILITARY, opinions are like Butts holes, we all got one!!!!”

        and BTW___I get sick of you frickin’ Liberal bleeding hearts finding everyway possible, to find FAULT of our Military! I can
        Guaran-dam-tee ya, there is a hell of a lot worse that goes on, on the battlefield, none of us never knows anything about it!

        Some things are, as they are, your not gonna change it, like The Eagles Son title___”Get over it!!!!

      • Flashy

        I would trust the military will nail their hides to the wall. Conduct unbecoming an American soldier. But to cheer as you are ? Disgusting. Just as discgusting as desecrating the dead.

        Foryou to assume that being disgucted with this means the military is not honored, that is so beyond any common sense. Far beyond it.

        Take two soldiers coming home. Say one is your son. The other your neighbor’s son. They stand side by side. Your son is one of those in the video. Your neighbor’s son conducted himself with honor.

        Now…whose family honor was served well? Which one, if you are an employer, will you hire?

        Name one American hero who would do this…c’mon….name one.

        Disgusting…pure and simple. And you have no room to complain or feign horror when such treatment is done to our soldiers.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy, AGAIN, Opinions are like Buttholes, we ALL have one!

        May I remind you whatever ANYONE DOES THAT’S WRONG WILL PAY FOR IT ALONE, your free not to like it!

      • Flashy

        And you are free to act and say disgusting things and cheer for the subversion of America, our heroes, and our way of life.

        Doesn’t mean it’s right….all it means in my America you have that freedom. In your America, I would not.

        Stand proud Wanda…and don’t mind what others are thinking of you (hint: you wouldn’t be standing so tall and proud if you knew what they were actually thinking)

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy__ I couldn’t give a good go-to-h*ll what YOU or anyone else thinks of me!__Why do ya go bother someone else, you and I are done talking, son! :)

      • Joe H.

        Flushy,
        If BOTH of those soldiers served, kept the enemy from getting HERE, and made it home, then I would say BOTH served and did their assigned job!!!

      • Dave

        Sad that actions like this even have to be argued as they are here.
        We did scream outrage when abuses of our dead comrades were displayed through the various media for us all to see. That is a big part of the problem. The story sometimes eclipses the actions.
        The guys are usually young, though growing up fast, and didn’t really think before they did what they did. But the level of attention it gets amplifies the reactions and one can only hope that this doesn’t fuel another fire. Some overbearing response.
        To claim that this was a honorable display is asinine, just stupid. We ARE BETTER than the enemy. Celebrate the victories amongst yourselves. Away from”prying eyes”, the enemies.
        Hope they don’t double up on their attacks and go after more of our heroes.
        We are there to put the fires out.

      • Karolyn

        Congratulations Ben! You have done a great job pandering to your audience! I can imagine your glee while writing this piece, thinking of the joy you would bring to those who normally believe the US is better than its enemies. This shows we are no better than anyone, which is actually as it should be. However, we should at least act better and be above such abominable actions. Men!

      • Karolyn

        I meant for the above to stand alone and not be a response to Dave.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Karolyn… Most of the enlisted personnel are not even 21. I don’t want to remember back to when I was that age and all the less than intelligent things I did. It happened. Time to move on and get over it!

      • Vigilant

        “This shows we are no better than anyone, which is actually as it should be. However, we should at least act better and be above such abominable actions. Men!”

        (1) We are no better than anyone? What the Hell kind of moral relativism is that? By equating the US Marines with the Taliban makes you despicable. How dare you?

        (2) Sounds like you have a problem with men in general. You one of those “feminazis?”

      • Flashy

        Vigilant…why do tyou insist on putting the US marines on the same moral level of the Taliban troops? just wondering since you are cheering exactly what was done to our troops…desecration of the bodies after KIA?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        By the way,Karolyn, America is better than the rest of the nations.

      • Vigilant

        HFlashman says, why do tyou insist on putting the US marines on the same moral level of the Taliban troops? just wondering since you are cheering exactly what was done to our troops…desecration of the bodies after KIA?”

        A reading comprehension course (say, beginning at the elementary achool level) would do you a world of good.

      • Joe H.

        Karolyn,
        Just who do you, who has never spent a DAY in combat boots, never mind getting your A$$ shot at, think you are?? Just who the hell are you to JUDGE?? you want the soldiers to protect you and keep you safe here so you can sit your lead azz in front of a warm fire while these men go about doing their duty in the worst possible conditions, getting their asses shot off, comming home in body bags or worse. they come home without arms legs, their minds screwed up from combat with an enemy that doesn’t give a squat for human life, theirs or yours, yet you want to play patta cake with them!! you are the same sick minded individuals that demeaned, spit on, and desecrated the memories of our fallen soldiers when they returned from VietNam, and it wouldn’t suprise me to know that you are one of them. you may have gotten older, but you haven’t gotten a lik smarter!!

      • dan

        i beleave that the marines in the video ,did not show the best judgement in this case. the act its self,not the best thing but to video it less than smart .as to weather the dead in someway earned this treatment ,not knowing them i can’t say . i can say if i was to pick one of the 2 usmc ,or taliban to aim my pee stream . the usmc comeout dry

      • Vigilant

        Flashy says, “They will only be satisfied when we ourselves are barbaric and without moral character.”

        Imagine that! A leftist talking about moral character!

      • Flashy

        well…since you have none, thought i would point out what it means to have such…

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy, your a perfect specimen of a heaping helping raft of Bullshyte!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Flashy has his own version of morals which he makes up as he goes along.

      • Flashy

        Fine…name one American hero who we would think would do this type of stunt. C’mon. Andrew jackson? those who died at the Alamo? Alvin York? Audie Murphy? Any who were awarded the Medal of Honor? John Wayne? Ronnie Reagan?

        C’mon…name one.

      • Vicki

        Flashy says:
        “Fine…name one American hero who we would think would do this type of stunt. C’mon. Andrew jackson? those who died at the Alamo? Alvin York? Audie Murphy? Any who were awarded the Medal of Honor? John Wayne? Ronnie Reagan?

        C’mon…name one.”

        Ok. How about I name one that DID rather than that you think might.
        Gen. George S. Patton
        http://www.redstate.com/conservativecurmudgeon/2012/01/12/george-s-patton-jr-at-the-rhine-river-yes-hillary-peeing-on-the-enemy-is-an-american-tradition/

        Was even awarded quite a few medals. (Probably not for the peeing:) )

      • Joe H.

        Flushy,
        you keep mentioning John Wayne as an American hero. now as much as I loved his films, he didn’t serve a DAY in service!!! Now, excuse me if I’m wrong, but to be a hero, someone has to do something heroic. I respect Wayne very much and have EVERY ONE of his movies in my collection, but he would be no judge of these men as he has never been in combat and has never been fired upon in real life!!

      • Flashy

        Vicki…urinating in a river is a tad bit different than on the dead, outside of immediate battle, and making sure it was being vieo taped.

        ’nuff said

      • eddie47d

        If any of you paid close attention to the news stations there were also Conservatives who condemned these actions so why the authors or even Vigilant’s diatribe against Liberals. Why did Ben state that Liberals would want an 8 year old girl to be a suicide bomber. Not an ounce of truth to that so who should we trust? It’s just more pathetic and creepy attacks by the spin master himself. There are soldiers who do much in protecting our freedoms and then there are those who shame the uniform. A reasonable person can tell the difference.

    • Vagabond

      jerry lynch you sound just like a damned STUPID ASS liberal democrat. hell those Marines should have taken a crapp in their faces so IDIOTS like you would have something to really be upset about. they should SPOT OROMOTE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE TO THE NEXT HIGHEST GRADE RATE,

    • Benjamin Paul marcoux

      Damn it ,Jerry
      You have to be blind to not see what Obama is doing to America.
      Really, please do not say that you will vote for him again until you study articles on his destruction of our country’s economy and jobs.
      I beg you to first do your homework and then see if you will still vote for him.
      I was like you at first but I spent much time reading his agenda and his Executive orders that he passed without going through Congress.
      He is shredding our country’s Constitution and this is not what God gave to us —a country and with inalienable rights.
      Please don’t get mad at me for trying to open your eyes–just spend some time reading good material about Obama’s agenda
      A friend I hope, Paul

    • Jonah

      Wow Jerry Lynch, you’ve stepped into a hornet’s nest of brilliant thought. You now have an official title of ‘Libtard’ and ‘Stupid Ass’.
      Apparently you’re having a discussion with Junior High School dropouts. These people can’t generate a coherent thought between them.

      • Vagabond

        and you jonah are brilliant? about as bright as a five watt bulb,

      • Angel Wannabe

        Vagabond, the lights are ON but nobody’s home! “)

      • Flashy

        4.9999 watts more than you’re indicating you have available Vag …

      • Joe H.

        Vagabond,
        He doesn’t use watts, he’s like one of those 2 liter bottle lights described in PLDs article in survival!!! The only difference is THOSE are BRIGHT!!

    • David

      Go back to your democrat underground, Jerry Lynch

    • Sirian

      OK Lynch, being 60, and from your preponderance of liberal intelligence it is without question you most certainly need to be fully checked for Alzheimer’s and dementia. On second thought, no, that would be a waste of time and money since you’re mind is to far gone already. You’ve obviously never been in the military let alone on a battle field. Typical fool on display.

      • Joe H.

        sirian,
        jerry probably never served in combat. Judging by my own age of 61, I was one of the last few years sent. He would be too old for desert storm, and iraq or Afghanistan. If he did, it was probably Grenada as
        a REMF!!

    • MikeC711

      Jerry, I disagree with those who celebrate this but … if you have never been on the front lines and truly understanding that “war is hell” … then in the words of Allen West … shut up! People who have never been to war are sending our young men and women into hell and expecting them to kill and be killed, to sleep in the sand and worry about bombs and bombers around every bend. Oh, and then they must all act like Little Lord Fauntleroy’s. When Bill and Hillary were on the front lines in Vietnam … they would never have found this offensive (oh wait, Bill was hiding under his bed and Hillary was going to an elite Ivy League school protesting war). If only a VFW who had seen real action could send our boys to war (whether on “peace keeping”, “preEmptive”, or “mercy” missions) … then we’d not be in all these stupid wars. As long as those who watch American Idol while our troops are in hell … can send them there and then complain about their actions (yes, I’m talking to you) … we will continue to have this mess.

      • Vagabond

        very well said Mike,

      • Flashy

        I notice ol’ Westie ain’t in the military anymore. Odds are very good he won’t be in congress anymore after the elections either.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy, Quite Honestly, Allen West is doing a fine job right where he is, and I like his testicular fortitude!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Flashy… You are wrong. West in up and coming! I wish he would have chosen to run this year!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        That should have been ‘is’ up and coming!

      • Flashy

        i know…sad isn’t it. Oh BTW…I just viewed a poll for West. Seems he would have lost in any relection attempt. Something loike a 42% approval rating…for an incumbent. LOL … yep…”up and coming’ is typical TP talk for WHAT A LOSER

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy, you remind of that old Merrie Melodies cartoon, you remember, the one with the Two Gansters (one dumber than the Boss) they were holding Bugs Bunny hostage, and Bugs Bunny JUST WOULDN’T SHUT UP!

      • Flashy

        I love Bugs Bunny! Bugs is cool. Nothing fazes Bugs. Then you must be one of the bad guys. (errr…you the dumb one you spoke about?)

      • Joe H.

        MikeC711,
        no, Bubba Clinton wasn’t hiding under his bed, he didn’t have to! He was in England going to school and protesting against this country on foreign soil!! He, in my opinion, was committing TREASON!!

    • borderlinedevill

      jerry all i have to say is YOUR DUMBER THEN A COAL BUCKET

    • Angel Wannabe
    • Free Mind

      Jerry Lynch is delusional like most Liberals. I think it’s Jerry’s turn to be sent to the Mideast for a reality check.
      Remember: JIHAD WORKS BOTH WAYS
      Semper Fi

      • Angel Wannabe

        Free Mind _Yeah .. I can hear the likes of Jerry in the Middle East with a Uniform and AK__asking the Taliban “Can We Talk?” :)

      • eddie47d

        Why does Free Mind want Americans to be so much like the Taliban?Why bother to nation build or even have wars if you don’t want the enemy nation to be more like us instead of us more like them.

    • Walt

      I have no dout you will vote for Obama.

    • Davis

      Go Jerry!!! Spoken like a true A”"hole.!! Give everything to the Rag Heads and see what you get in return!

    • Smilee

      These accusations of these crimes are not identified as they have not one iota of evidence he committed any crime nor is there a prosecutor alive in the country who could succeed in getting a conviction if he was lucky enough to get it to trial. This article is nothing but spin and garbage and I do believe he has outdone chip on this one, This is a propaganda mill that just throws out red meat and then sits back and watchs as most on this site fight to have the most nasty post. This site is good for a laugh and not much else.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If this site is good for a laugh and not much more, why are you responding by posting. All you had to do is read the posts and not respond.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Lady,and I use that word advisedly, stop trying to be an anointed intellectual because you are failing miserably.
      You have no idea what Liberty or Freedom are since someone else bought them for you.

    • http://personalliberty larry k.

      if it weren’t for our soldiers fighting for your sorry ass, you would’nt be saying you’d jump on them and YES they are the honorable and proud. just a word of caution— don’t say what you said to a marine standing in front of you. as a matter of fact i might deck you myself and i’m 73 yrs. old.

    • Doug

      You can kiss my butt you looser. You are the one that is the most ugly American with the rest of the loosers who would vote for and Illegal alien and think it okay to have a boy running our country who could not even run a car wash. It liberals scum like you that this country needs to pack up along with the illegal alliens and send them to Cuba or some other Communist countries that you Communist like. If I could piss throught this computer I would piss all over you traitor!

    • hitthedeck

      Jerry the only difference between you and those Marines is that you piss in peoples faces while they are alive and in a position where they cannot fight back. That is the liberal system of disapproval of an honest opinion.

  • Stan Smith

    Good! You go Marines! Pee on the radical Muzzie terrorist body! with all the Sh*t you go through! But I rather take a crap on them, after seeing our service people getting killed and maimed because of the so called New rules of engagement caused by the Libtard Democraps & some Spineless Repukes! Throw away the so called new rules of engagement and let our Military do their Objectives Blow the holy hell out of the enemy and go home as Job well done!

    • Vagabond

      Stan thats the problem. the damne politicians and buerocrats are all arm chair Generals who think they know what they are doing better than the men in the feild. this thing could have been over long ago but for the damned politicians,

      • http://HOTMAIL Trainman

        Stan those men left one thing undone, they should lay a strip of bacon on the freaking muslim terorist face. You do know how they feel about bacon…right? It’s unholy to them and just may keep them from going to their holy land… you know.. hell. That’s their belief.

      • wandamurline

        Absolutely….every bullet or shell in my house has had bacon wiped over the tip….just in case we ever have to use them in our own defense and that probability grows stronger each and every day the Demorats and RINOS stay in office. Go Green In 2012, Recycle this Congress and clean the sewers that are backing up in Washington.

      • Angel Wannabe

        wandamurline__LMAO!

      • JeffH

        wandamurline, :) yer killin’ me! Now I gotta go treat all of my defense rounds with bacon…mmmm, think I’ll rub ‘em down with some Kosher bacon instead,

      • http://none R Paul or status quo

        Wanda, I’ve also thought of another Go Green plan. Bringing troops home would save so much fuel and reduce pollution. I don’t think those military vehicles, jets, etc. are anything resembling a prius. LOL

      • Old Henry

        wanda:

        You got me laughing so hard I can hardly run the keebord! I love it! Waht a mental picture. Wanda down in the cellar with a package of Oscar Meyer just a rubbin those bullets in the grease!

        Gooooooo wanda!

      • Old Henry

        R PAUL:

        I wonder if we could convert them to run on used bacon grease.

      • Buddy

        One might wonder why the guns which the US soldiers use in Afghanistan are not lubricated with lard. Seems that such could go long way in cutting down a lot of resistance. Also, perhaps greasing vehicles with lard would eliminate the placing of IDEs near vehicles because one never knows how far those pieces would fly.

        Is politically correctness hampering the war efforts?

      • firefight

        Buddy,
        We need to get the word out that every round of ammo produced for our military is factory lubricated with bacon grease. This is the kind of information that needs to be “leaked” out to these Muslim asses. Once they start believing it, things will change. Now, in your next care package to the troops, include a can of bacon drippings saved from all your breakfasts with simple instructions to dip all ammo tips before loading into magazines.

      • Old Henry

        Buddy, you need to be in the Pentagon.

      • libertytrain

        Well you guys need to change some rules. Pork products are not allowed to be sent to the troops in those Muslim countries….unless something has very recently changed.

      • Joe H.

        If I remember right, the British used to treat their rounds in lard. This was, of course, before WW2. their Indian guards would not handle the ammo, and it caused some real big fiascos. Seems a couple of their defeats in India were due to the rumor, spread by the muslim enemy, that the bullets were “unholy” and “unclean”!

      • Flashy

        joe…the rumor of the british treating the ammo cartridges with lard was the trigger point which launched the First indian mutiny…and brought about such infamous seiges such as Cawnpore etc. It was a flase rumor.

        interestngly enough, one of the pressure issues which brought the Indian populace to that trigger stress point was the prolliferation of christian missionaries insisting the local Hindu and Muslim religions were wrong and in some areas were successful in having the local british authorities supress those religions.

        Just another bloodbath aided by zealots insisting their religion was the correct one…

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Joe the Indians could care less about the lard. The Indians opposed the use of tallow (rendered beef fat) to coat the bullets the Packastanies opposed the use of lard. The Brits told the Packs they used tallow and the Indians they used lard or so the story goes.

      • firefight

        Hey Libertytrain, we’re not sending the bacon drippings to the Muslims, we’re sending it to Americans to be shot through Muslims. How can that be a problem in a time of war? Piss on any regulation that says, “we can’t send pork products to Muslim countries.” This is war! We do whatever it takes to kill terrorists and win. Know what, I really like fried pork rinds. I guess many of our troops do too. They have a very noticeable fragrance when you pop open the bag. Wonder how that lingering fragrance would be to the Taliban? Send some bags of Pork Rinds along with the bacon drippings. Maybe some pickled pigs feet too.

      • libertytrain

        hey, don’t tell me tell the regulations guys – military – post office. I’m just the messenger….

      • BSG

        It was just a poor man’s burial at sea, they were just following the lead of their commander-in-chief.

    • borderlinedevill

      you got that right they deserve a medal

    • Warrior

      I think they were taught to disinfect their kill or maybe this is akin to spiking the football? Why in the world anyone would be shocked is beyond comprehension. Unsightly things happen throughout the animal world. By the way, did anyone notice last night, it’s fashionable when Hawks come out?

      Come to your senses people and get rid of these neocons and progressives, they have caused too much pain over the past 100 years with their population control methods..

      • eddie47d

        Since someone else has no moral compass doesn’t mean we should become like them. Then we all become animals as you invoked. If you want the enemy to change and live the way we do then we never compromise our standards.

      • Penny R. Freeman

        You are too far out in left field Eddie to be sane! Are you not aware that for thousands of years Muslims haven’t been friends of anyone in the west? Why? Because we have the nerve not to worship Allah as they dictate. Ok, not all Muslims are extremists or terrorists, but then neither are all Christians. Yes I did say Christians. I guess none of you have eough knowledge of history to remember the great crusades, the European quest throughout the Middle East to find the holy chalise. In so doing Muslims were slaughtered, their countries plundered, and eternal enemies created. Yes extremists from ANY SIDE are bad, no matter what crimes against humanity they perputrate. Is that an excuse for you to condemn our military for doing their job and relieving some of their stress and frustration in an undisciplined amnner? For anyone, but especially our global government cheerleader and hypocrite incarnate Billy Boy’s Hill, I say if what the Marines did is that terrible to your delicate sensibilies you need to be FORCED to dress in the armored outfits worn by our military, fight under the horrible desert heat they endure, never know when you or a friend will have your life end or be changed thanks to an IED or suicide fanatic, and have your hands cuffed and your limits set by a bunch of beaurocrats who sit in their nice air conditioned offices and earn their pay by living as leaches on your back. Grow up! As Allen West said, war is hell! I have NO SYMPATHY for those terrorists or nut cases like you who want to condemn our military. My only sympathy is for the victims of terrorists no matter who they are, and that includes the children indoctrinated by extermists to hate persons who do not follow their beliefs.

      • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

        For the first time ever, eddie, you make some sense.

      • duaner

        You and eddie must be sleeping together to make that kind of a horse manure statement.

      • http://none R Paul or status quo

        Eddie, our standards have been compromised for years by our leaders, go green and flush the system!

      • Matt

        Eddie is right. How can we glorify pissing on dead bodies? This make us look barbaric and completely classless. I am sickened by the people on here okay with pissing on dead bodies. How would you a-moral baffoons feel if they were pissing on dead Christians or dead Jews, or, better yet, dead Americans? We as Americans should not be so a-moral. If we are the becon of liberty and freedom in the world with our Republic why do we condone pissing on the deceased? The Obama Administration is right in calling these Marines out, and Christ Almighty I thought I’d never say that. The Marines are also the same branch that used the Islamic holy book the Quaran as target practice, which at one point I thought was okay, but now, I know it’s totally evil to desecrate the Islamic holy book because I would never want someone to do that to the Bible. I think Der Furher and demagogue Adolph Hitler would be pretty proud of America and her military now because instead of burning books we piss on dead bodies like the disgusting society of a-moral people we’ve become. As a human, a Christian, an American, and Republican, I am appalled at this incident and I only wish our military would act with the decorum a noble American should.

      • Joe H.

        While I don’t completely agree with the actions, where is your condemnation for the PUBLIC beheading of American citizens over there?
        Where is your condemnation of the atrocities commited against ALL foreign nationals that come into contact with this enemy??? I suppose you consider THAT ok?? There are soldiers over there that are on their sixth, seventh, and even their EIGHTH tour of duty over there! YOU try that. Living each and every day like it WILL be your last for a total of three or four years. Just try it, dip wad, and THEN tell me what you think!!

      • Flashy

        Public?

      • Had_to_be_said

        Actually Matt…

        I am really impressed by your completely-ignorant, disgustingly-vile, and utterly-treasonous, tirade… so, here’s one of my own.

        Muslim extremists in that region HAVE, very publicly, defiled our dead soldiers. They constantly defile our flag, AND our holy books. Where the Hell have you been? They are NOT our friends. They are NOT reasonable. They deserve NO respect and, YES, they DO deserve every insult we can heap upon them. They are furious at us, merely for existing, and that will never change.

        The Taliban are bloody butchers, who murder the innocent, including THEIR OWN “woman” and “children”. And, their basic philosophy is a rabid, terrorists mind-set that demands the subjugation of the entire world, through ANY level of violence, what-so-ever, to support the imposition of their-own psychotic-perception of radical-Islam.

        These are the real facts. We have sent those Americans over there, risking their lives, to defend our nation, and our very way of life – by KILLING the very armed-combatants that are trying, desperately to kill us, and enslave their own nation. Those… poor… Taliban… have flatly stated that they WILL destabilize the entire non-Muslim world… until none but exactly the right-kind of Muslim exists anywhere in the world.

        It’s just too bad that whiny, treasonous, cowardly, collaborators… like you… are now spewing such utter BS, against our warriors and our nation, simply for being human, and having the correct contempt for such animals once they’ve been put-down… as they should be.

        If you hate freedom, and America so much… maybe YOU should grab an AK and go fight in Afghanistan. Then maybe some U.S. Marines can piss on your lifeless-corpse for the camera, too.

        Have a nice, American, day.

      • firefight

        Eddie and Jazzabelle,
        The more you post, the more we all realize just how out of touch you people are with reality. You don’t change any of these people! Their philosophy is simple. KILL anyone who is not a child of Islam. To behead, dismember, burn alive or any other method of terminating an infidel, that’s what you and I are, is perfectly acceptable to them. What will it take to make you people realize this and come to the understanding that we are in a war for our very lives? Simply put, it’s them or us.

      • Old Henry

        You are correct firefight. The eddies and the Jazzabelles will be the first ones the Muslims will go after as soon as they get the chance.

      • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

        firefight wrote: “You don’t change any of these people!”

        The point isn’t to change THEM. The point is to act according to our own national, cultural, and religious values; to retain our integrity as a people. What terrorists want is to destroy American culture and alienate Americans from their values. They are succeeding, as the US government cracks down hard on its own citizens in a witch-hunt for those who aid and abet “terrorists.” You can now be disappeared on nothing but the President’s suspicion that you’re AFFILIATED with a terrorist group. You don’t even have to have done anything illegal. Turning Americans against each other is a lot easier for the real terrorists than having to come here and kill us all. The way to resist all these things is to remember who we are, and act in accordance with that knowledge. We don’t excuse barbaric behavior just because “they” did something worse: two wrongs don’t make a right. We act in accordance with OUR values, our civilized humanity, and our political conceptions of God-given human rights and human dignity. We don’t do it for the sake of the terrorists; we do it for OUR OWN SAKE, and the sake of our country which is on the verge of collapse, and the sake of our Consitution which is hanging by a thread, and the sake of our children whose society will be unrecognizable to us if we let ourselves become just like the terrorists.

        firefight wrote: “Their philosophy is simple. KILL anyone who is not a child of Islam…. What will it take to make you people realize this and come to the understanding that we are in a war for our very lives? Simply put, it’s them or us.”

        You may be right, but that’s irrelevant to whether it’s appropriate for Marines to urinate on their dead bodies or not. Self-defense is an inalienable human right. Thus the Marines killed the terrorists, and now the terrorists are dead. They asked for that. So what’s with the corpse desecration? Killing them wasn’t enough? If you’re in “a war for [your] very life,” then kill the enemy. Don’t BECOME the enemy by acting like a barbarian afterwards.

      • Old Henry

        eddie:

        Taking a leak on some dead Satan worshiping sub-human scum is not akin to beheading people on the internet, dragging corpses thru the streets and hanging them off a bridge for days.

        I think Patton would have given them citations, but that was when the military was run by real men.

      • Karolyn

        Duh, nobody said it was, Old Henry.

      • Flashy

        a. They cannot be Satan worshippers as to worship Satan, one has to first have christian beliefs.

        b. Patton would have jailed them for inciting the local populace against his troops……

      • Donald

        Eddie, you got that right. We have descended to the level of our enemy. Wonder how many mad bombers they will be able to recruit with this poster.

    • Mark

      Pee on them first, them shoot them.

    • Karolyn

      They are going through all that sh*t, as you say, for nothing – for politics! THEY are the intruders and should be held to a higher standard. These guys give a bad name to all US soldiers, and there are many who do good things for the people in the countries intruded into. Those are the ones who should be spotlighted.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Karolyn… I so very seldom agree with your posts, but you are right when you say the ones that ‘do good’ should be spotlighted. Leave this incident to the military. They should be slapped on the wrist and told to ‘carry on’. I don’t pretend to know what they go through, but if politics is where you want to lay the blame, go after the politicians. I think they had a lapse in judgement when they videoed their actions, but much, much worse has been done to ‘live’ victims in the course war. Making a big deal out of this is ludicrous at best.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        What is your definition of “doing good”? If I am reasoning correctly of what I believe you mean, I know you and Karolyn are creepy busybodies. Mind your own damn business.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Nadzieja… I define doing good as helping, lending a hand, being caring, administering to those who are hurting, kind words and deeds. Did you misconstrue my post?

      • Karolyn

        OBVIOUSLY, what I mean is the soldiers I’ve seen interviewed who really take an interest in the people, especially the kids, of the country and don’t refer to them as “ragheads”, “pigs”, etc., as many of them do.

      • http://personalliberty larry k.

        Sure, it’s okay for them pig hating muslim bastards to torture our soldiers and then chop off their heads but for us to piss on their on their dead enemies is a no-no. I WISH OUR POLITICIANS WOULD THANK OUR MEN INSTEAD OF WANTING TO COURT-MARTIAL THEM FOR KILLING OUR ENEMIES AND YES, PISSING ON THEIR DIRTY AMERICAN HATING BODIES. I’D PISS ON THEM TOO.

      • Buddy

        Evidently, our politico types think that it’s O.K. to kill all kinds of “collateral damage” but is “disgraceful” to urinate on dead bodies.

        Is someone’s sense of value twisted?

      • Donald

        It is the top brass in the military who decided on the Courts Martial. They know this sort of stuff sets back the war effort and negates all the good other military personnel have done over there.

      • Flashy

        No “slap on the wrist”. Busted a rank down, shipped back to the states, transferred out of any combat unit and a hefty fine. Then a dishonorable discharge. No incarceration though maybe a long (as in years) probation type status to pull their passports so they aren’t rehired as mercs for Blackwater etc.

        Let them explain it to prospective employers.

      • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

        I think letting them explain it to future employers might be doing them a favor. Just sayin’.

      • Stan Smith

        Flushy makes an excuses for Muzzie terrorists Just like all Libtards do!

      • eddie47d

        Flashy is not making excuses for terrorists (where did he say that?) We could say why are you making excuses for the continuations of these wars against the “muzzie” people. What are you doing to keep us out of these continual confrontations so these events don’t happen. If you want these wars then accept the baggage that goes along with them and that includes dishonorable behavior.

      • http://none R Paul or status quo

        Flashy, of all the atrocities that have and are going on, this picture hits the MSM. I guess it’s interesting at best, IMO just more misdirection from the issue at hand…PROPAGANDA

      • Old Henry

        After three years of Barry Sortoro we still have employers? They have been added to the endangered species list.

      • Flashy

        More private sector jobs added each month Henry. A far better job growth record than all but two of the Bush/Cheney years.

        Quit believing the lies…

      • vieteravet

        AHH! Did some poor libtard get butt hurt? Patton would have joined them!

      • Deerinwater

        No ! this behavior is not acceptable. Many things happen that should go untold, this but one.

        I’ve done many things I should not have done, only to feel a lesser man for it years later. These men too, will see that day if they live long enough. A man can spent the rest of his life making amends.

        I don’t know what lead up to this event but clearly something extra ordinarily occurred.

        Truth & Innocence is the first causality of war.

        But celebration is uncalled for.

      • http://HOTMAIL Trainman

        No KAREN there doing it for all their fellow buddies that have been killed by land mines, snipers, and all the other hide behind women and children punk a++ terorist. Just think how you would feel ssing that picture if your son, husband, father, or daughter was over there and was killed by these terorist??

        By the way if we don’t take care of these terorist parasites of the world over there we will have all that going on one day in the U.S.

      • eddie47d

        They are professional US soldiers not some youngsters at a frat party acting crazy to impress their stupid frat brothers.If they didn’t want it known they wouldn’t have recorded it. Like their college counterparts they did something that they might regret.Yet they will survive considering worse things have been done .

      • Mary

        People here don’t know how that terrorist are. I said to my Marine son, shoot before the enemy and remember every man you kill there you are saving at least four women from a living hell. I can get him out of jail but not from the grave. This is outrage court martial for urination just in this country. Can somebody tell some other country where this happen? because not in my birthcountry. Marines don’t waste your urines ove Crap. We are doom in all the ways. As far as I concerned get rid of all the male beasts over there save the women. What they do to their women cann’t be described is horrible.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Mary, you are wasting your sympathy and pity on those women. Who do you think raised the men and boys over there to be what they are?

      • Mary

        Yes Batki. I know the best thing to do is take care of ourselves. Some cultures never change. Did you read Princess?

      • Flashy

        “Can somebody tell some other country where this happen?”

        Civilized countries are known to hold their honor to be above barbaric acts.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Mary, I did not and I do not plan to.
        There have been enough things written throughout history to describe the character of the people of this particular region.

      • Joe H.

        Yeah, Flushy, civilized countries that create musicians, great artists, doctors, and such!!! you know, like GERMANY!!! there are a lot of civilized nations that do it also!! Look at the women and children that were raped and murdered in Africa by UN troops under the guidance of Kofie!!!

      • Old Henry

        Trainman:

        Regardless it will be going on over here, most likely sooner than later. That is why the DC Traitors now have in place the Hitler-esque Patriot Act, the Stalin-esque NDAA and the FEMA camps.

        As the old Cherokee Chief stated: “It is a good day to die”.

      • Joe H.

        OH,
        As far as our troops over there, I like Pattons quote BETTER! “You don’t win wars dying for your country, you win wars by making some bastard die for HIS!”

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        Lets take a trip down memory lane, the date 1992 the place Somolia the US army was sent in to help UN peace keepers distribute needed food to starving somolies. Tribal warlords decided they wanted the food more and took it from the starving masses, in come s the US Army issueing the food to the poor and starving and without cause they were attacked. Remember Black Hawk Down we lost quite a few good men then to have the somolie (so called) freedom fighters drag our dead around as trophies is disrespectfull, they kicked, drug, hung our dead and for what food.

        Fast forward to Iraq, three US defense contractors were killed protecting a convoy of fuel and goods. These dead men were burned beyond recognition and then their bodies were hung from a bridge for the world to see. Later in Irag there were the beheading of US civilians helping to rebuild Iraq, did you ever see the video that was posted around 2005. What about the video of a US service man being shot in the back of the head and two other captured service members being tortured, murdered, decapitated and their bodies dumped in Bagdad.

        What those Marines did was payback plain and simple, if you haven’t walked a mile in their shoes you have no right to judge them, they face terrible consequences every single day they are in country. The Taliban and Al-Queida would rather cut your throat than look at you, that’s reality, war is an ugly business, people die and those Marines were getting some deserved payback.

        Karolyn you should be disgusted in your comments, because freedom isn’t free, thank our US armed forces since the revolutionary war to today, they are the one percent whom keep this country free so that you can post your garbage. Enough said…

      • eddie47d

        Nothing Karolyn said was disgusting and your comparing freedom to peeing on a dead body is more in line with being disgusting. We’re all aware that terrible things happen in war. That the enemy does things to us that are disgusting and we do things to them that are disgusting. Neither is right or welcomed behavior and it shouldn’t be accepted as a normal part of doing business. Considering this is a minor incident we should quickly move on.

      • JeffH

        eddie, one of the few times I agree with you. Hope is that being on restriction is a good thing.

      • Brad

        Well well Eddie, nice of you to chime in, guess what, I’ll stick with my original comment. Yes I can agree with the rest of your post.

      • Karolyn

        There’s no room for pay-back in civilized society. All it does is make things worse.

      • Brad

        In combat there’s always room for payback, it happens all the time and 99.9% goes unreported. In civilized societies it’s called getting evan, haven’t you gotten evan with someone who did you wrong…

      • Karolyn

        No, Brad, never done that. I don’t believe in it. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

      • Joe H.

        Come on Karolyn, never got mad at another girl for, say stealing a boyfriend, and got even? I’d almost call you a prevaracator over THAT one!!!

      • Karolyn

        Actually, Joe, that did happen to me when I was about 22 and I chose friendship over the guy. I felt that if they really loved each other, who was I to stand in their way; and they were both close friends of mine. It happened to me in high school too – same scenario. That’s just the way I am.

      • Brad

        Then Karolyn you are the type of person who doesn’t mind getting stepped on so others can climb the ladder of success and love.

      • Old Henry

        Brad:

        Very well put. The American public has what I would call a Goldfish memory.

        There is not much outrage when the animals do such horrendous things, but let our folks get a little pay-back and…..

        Maybe they should have spray painted “Kilroy was here” on them.

      • Joe H.

        No, Old Henry, they should have spraypainted the phrase ” War is hell, but paybacks are a MF!!!!

      • wandamurline

        I guess that you are okay with the fact that these people cut of the head of Ron Peal, video taped it and put it on the internet. Of maybe you think it is okay for them to drag the bodies of our dead soldiers through the streets after they have been gutted and then set their bodies on fire in the middle of main street. It is people like you and the politicians and liberal progressive news medias that give the military a bad name, not the men who put their azzes on the line every day so that you can have the freedom of speech. If you can read, thank a teacher….if you can read in English, thank a soldier. I am from a military family….dad served four years in WWII, and husband in Viet Nam and Desert Storm….don’t feel sorry for the terrorists at all….I would have poured pig blood all over them…

      • Karolyn

        That’s because you’re bloodthirsty, and I am not. Of course, I don’t agree with or condone and horrible actions taken by the “enemy.” I am not stupid!! But I was taught to repay bad with good or just turn away. Isn’t that what the Bible teaches? What would Jesus have to say about an incident like this? Where is the Christian morality that is so highly prized here? Sounds more like Christian hate groups like the pastor who pickets soldiere’s funerals. Same thing, really. Standing up for your beliefs in an immoral manner.

      • Flashy

        Karolyn….sadly, we will have to read the comments when such is done to our military KIA and then posted as a tit for tat reaction by the Taliban. I say sadly because more of our men and women overseas will have to die before this GOP initiated war is over with.

        And we will read the predictable statements of outrage from the wacked American Taliban and ignorant TPers who post their anti American rantings here …

      • Jefferson Thomas

        What part of the bible? In which context? Personal? Governmental? What does the Bible say that government should do to people who harm other people, their property, and people who break contracts? One of your clues to start with is Romans 13:4.

      • JeffH

        Flashy say “GOP initiated war”.

        Yeah, and I have some great vacation land in the Everglades I’ll sell ya…cheap too!

        Democrats Supported War on Iraq When It Suited Them – Video Evidence
        http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/democrats-supported-war-on-iraq-when-it-suited-them-video-evidence/

        FYI, the Democrats, like the Republicans, are devoted to maintaining and expanding U.S. power around the world. Rather than posing an alternative to a U.S. foreign policy of war and imperialist expansion, the Democratic Party is simply another vehicle for achieving the same goals.

      • Flashy

        Jeff…thank you for supplying a link concerning the war in Iraq which Bush/Cheney lied us into. Here’s a hint for you. The topic here is Afghanistan.

        We went into Afghanistan for one reason…get bin Laden. Not go to war with the Taliban. Of course, Bush/Cheney screwed us and brought us to nation building in a country which has never been subjugated for any length of time. Anyone who ever traveled there could have told you that one.

        Then…after displacing the Taliban, they did nothing. Absolutely nothing for six years. If you recall, Obama made it a central theme in his war policy…get bin Laden, not war with the Taliban.

        Yes…GOP initiated war.

      • Jefferson Thomas

        @ Falshy,

        You need a wider context my friend. The war is over 1300 years old and it was started my Mohammed not the GOP. The war will continue until one side or the other is defeated in the mental, spiritual, or physical realm (or all of the previous). It is preferable that they are defeated mentally or spiritually. However, it is somewhat difficult to reason with persons who strap bombs to children and blow up themselves and others.

        http://www.historyofjihad.org/

      • Doug

        You people are crazy this is war. We have done nothing but play war with our hands tied behind our backs. When we took Iraq we should have took the oil to pay for the war. And if the politicians were not involved in the troop strength that we sent then we would have sent enough to secure the border so the rag heads from other countries could not keep coming in and causing problems. You make us come kick your butt so then the spoils go to the victors. You liberal sissies need to join a commune!

    • TML

      Completely dishonorable behavior by these Marines. They have no honor acting like 12 year olds, and have made themselves no better than the enemy by doing so

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I am proud of those Marines.

      • Jackson

        Your a dumbass, you can tell you were raised in a fatherless home, or your dad would have beat your ass until you actually grew a pair. Wether it be the Marines or the Army battlefield playtime is always going to have a winner, and a loser. What you do with your play toys shouldn’t be the concern of those that’s never had to play.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Are you responding to my post or TML?

      • Karolyn

        A helluva a thing to be proud of!! Would you do it?

      • TML

        There is no honor in their actions, plain and simple.

      • Buddy

        There’s no honor in collateral damage, either!

      • eddie47d

        You have a wicked sense of pride Nadzieja.

      • http://personalliberty larry k.

        I think it’s honorable of our soldiers and for you to say our men have no honor then i think you should go live with the enemy where i think you belong. How dare you say our soldiers have no honor!

      • Karolyn

        Peeing on an enemy’s body is not honorable.

      • TML

        These particular marines, and those like them, have none. There is no honor in their actions.

      • Dennis48e

        the only dishoner in their actions is videoing it and posting it to the internet.

      • TML

        Their actions bring them no honor whether or not it was video taped.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        “and those like them”, you are such a phony and a pious bsesses to boot.

      • TML

        “and those like them”

        That means you

      • Joe H.

        TML??? TML? Come home boopsie time for your bottle!!!

    • Davis

      Go Marines! Piss on them all! Don’t wait for the bodies to get cold! Do it while they Stand! They do it to us enough and It’s Pay back time!

      HOO! HAA!

    • Old Henry

      Rather than urinate on them I think they should dump bacon grease and pork rinds on them.

      Rather than bomb them we should dump massive amounts of bacon grease on them along with entrails from slaughter houses. Look Akbar, it’s raining…. bacon grease and pork bellies! They would then have to kill each other because they are “unclean” and the survivors would have to jump into the sea because the land is “unclean”. Much more efficient, and cheaper.

      • Karolyn

        “My religion’s better than your religion. Nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah!” What do you expect people of any other religion to do when people like you treat their beliefs as funny and degrade them? The US started this whole ball rolling. I just don’t get it. Why do you have to bring yourself down to such a low level? Is it just habit or the way you were brought up? Or is it just the “manly” thing to do?

      • Joe H.

        you mean, missy karolyn, like YOU???? you have done nothing here but tear at and belittle the beliefs of every Christian on these boards!!!

      • Karolyn

        Joe – I think you have me confused with Robert Smith. I may voice my beliefs but not at the expense of another’s.

      • Brad

        But you would rather come the rescue of a muslim not a christian.

      • Jefferson Thomas

        You mean like when Elijah mocked the prophets of Baal and their God. Those kinds of prophets and men of God.

        1 Kings 18:27,28 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god, either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is on a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves, after their manner with knives and lancets, til the blood gushed out upon them.

        You can read the reeeestof the story in 1Kings 18.

    • hitthedeck

      What next! It wouldn’t surprise me if our progressive Attorney General Eric Holder brings up charges on our marines for hate crimes. Obama and his administration has been kissing Muslim tails every since they have been in office and softened up the reports on every radical act the Islamic have commited.

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