If the Obamir was taking America in a positive direction to lead the world as it has been doing since its creation, it would be different. Instead he paints the picture that America has it too good and should be brought down to a level with other underdeveloped countries so they can compete with us “more fairly”. What does THAT mean?

America is a freedom-loving nation because it is strong. It is amazing how many people of the world want to come live here because of our freedoms. The best way for the US to lead the world is by example. Let’s do away with the Obamir and let’s get back on the right track and do so.

A Japanese businessman stated a couple of years ago that Americans were lazy. He gave an example. If he gave a Japanese worker a shovel and told him to dig a ditch, the Japanese worker would get right to work. If he did the same to an American, the American would refuse.

He was right. An American would go get a back hoe – or invent one. And the ditch would be dug faster and will a lot less “work”.

He said “Americans have it too good”? Is that a fact or an assumption? I don’t care if Obama gets re-elected but stick to facts not over blown hype. I could go back and lambast the previous administration but you all get so touchy about the other side of the truth. There was a poll on the news this morning that says all parents lie 51% at some time to their kids. I think lying has become acceptable from everyone to reach their goal.Replacing Obama won’t change the underbelly of dishonesty that plagues this nation. Some politicians are just smarter liars.

The Obamir is a pro.

It was Classic Liberalism:

Classical liberalism is the philosophy committed to the ideal of limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets.[1][2]
Classical liberalism developed in the 19th century in Europe and the United States. Although classical liberalism built on ideas that had already developed by the end of the 18th century, it advocated a specific kind of society, government and public policy as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization.[3] Notable individuals who have contributed to classical liberalism include Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus and David Ricardo.[4] It drew on the economics of Adam Smith and on a belief in natural law, utilitarianism, and progress.

Most of our early Patriots came from Europe which were brutal Conservative autocracies. The Patriots did everything in their power to escape the draconian laws that these Conservative governments put in place. Unfortunately the Conservative British government followed them and reinstated the old laws and the Patriots had to make a choice;escape further west or stand and fight against the new British Conservative government.The Patriots won and there was a victory for Liberal laws. Today some Conservatives want to go back to stricter laws and some Liberals want to enact even looser laws. The lines are indeed blurred between what the Conservatives,Liberals or Libertarians want. Extreme laws from any side that harms the rights of others have to be closely watched and some are not acceptable.

Isn’t it the 13th Iman?

Eddie47 you got to be kidding! If Jefferson were alive today he would be leading a revival revolution against Obama and his socialist administration. He is the one who warned us about people like Obama going around the laws of our land to gain power. He would demand the removal this administration and go so further with an armed revolution to put them down.

I don’t think so> Jefferson hated suppression at least from that period. He welcomed new ideas and a progressive society.

King George usurped the laws enacted by his own parliment, and did as he pleased when concerning the American colonist, and was the reason for the American Revolutionary War, and the beginning of this great nation. Obama usurps the mandates of the US Constitution by making appointments without Congress’ ‘Advise and Consent’, which he declares Congress is in recess, when Congress claims they are not, and passed the last law Obama wanted and signed into law under those same conditions, that Obama declares is an official recess, which if true, then makes the law Obama wanted and signed, illegal and moot. Like King George, Obama is inconsistent and declares his own interpretation of laws, despite what those who made the laws say that they are and mean. So those who donate to Obama’s re-election are more like the ‘Loyalists Colonists’ who preferred dictate over law, than those who revolted against King George’s tyranny.

If this was truly the days of the Revolutionary War, he would be out of office already. What few politicians that were around then truly believed in freedom of the people, not bigger government or self imposed tyrants.

You are correct and it is time we do as they did in 1776 and get our guns and take back our country from this BASTARD.

He’s not a bastard. He’s a legitimately born citizen of Kenya with a Kenyan father.

This son of a whore has done more damage to America than any 5 presidents with the exception of Lincoln which did exactly what Bama is trying to do NOW. Put people away that doesn’t agree with him! Lincoln closed down newspapers that disagreed with him, put hundreds of people in jail until the war was over. Which made Lincoln the FIRST Dictator in American history! Semper Fi. The ONLY people that made Lincoln a hero were MORONS, he didn’t care about the people either, he only cared about power and control, and he was a lawyer too! Quit putting lawyers in office we can’t afford it! Semper Fi.

There is indeed a new American Revolution going on and every citizen is guilty of abandoning the Constitution. That includes each and every one who doesn’t abide by Liberty and Justice for All and that All Men are Created Equal. Either you accept that fact or you are un-American. You can’t claim the Constitution for yourself and ignore your next door neighbor or even the person who lives miles away. That goes for rich and poor,red states and blue states,religious believers and atheists and so forth and so on. Are the laws fairly distributed in this nation? Not even close where some favor one person or issue over another person and that affects those on the left and the right. That is a revolution worth having.

eddie:

“You can’t claim the Constitution for yourself and ignore your next door neighbor or even the person who lives miles away.”

Sure I can. I will grant them the same freedom I expect them to grant me. They can get any job they want that is available, work to buy whatever they want, do whatever they want, etc. … as long as they leave me alone to do the same thing. I am NOT responsible to see that they have the same things I do without having to work for them. If they don’t want to work, that is also fine with me – but I don’t feel I should be forced to fund their life style.

Slavery is basicially being forced to give up your labor for someone else’s gain. That is exactly what the Welfare system is doing, with the help of the government, to the tax payers of the US.

I also implied what you said for I wasn’t taking sides in how the wealthy steal from the economy or that welfare folks steal from the system. Neither one of those entities give a dang about equality only self interest.

It is called Lust and Greed.

Self interest is the impetus behind a functional economy. Don’t condemn greed too hastily. It is to satisfy our own needs and wants (i.e. our self interest) that compells us to work. It is to satisfy our own needs and wants that slaves are bought and sold. It is to satisfy our own needs and wants that corporations seek monopolies, the poor work the system, and the government implements programs with the goal of eradicating all suffering. If we didn’t have wants and needs, we would do nothing. Because we have wants and needs, we seek a method to satisfy them. And it is human nature to obtain the greatest amount of benefit for the least amount of pain. The wealthy do it by using money to make money. The poor do it by finding every conceivable loophole in the system so they can get a greater hand-out.

Every man works according to his own self interest, and it is general ignorance of this fact that conceals the source of class warfare.

There lies the problem Ellen. You CHOOSE to attack OWS without listening to the message about mortgage failures,Wall Street scams,over burdened college costs,Insider Trading, obscene CEO salaries,crooked politicians,bankster fraud and unjustified fees. No wonder there is so much failure within our economic system and the crimes of the Elite are never ending. Like that which was said yesterday where OWS protesters are beaten,silenced and sent to jail but those who committed Wall Street crimes were not incarcerated yet became even wealthier. That is a mockery of justice and puts to the forefront the need for a new American Revolution.

And why do we have those “scams” as you say? The mortgage “scam” was because the government insisted on the loan associations giving loans to unqualified people – with the promise that the government would cover the bad loans. The college problem is because too many people feel that they shouldn’t have to pay back the loans – because the government doesn’t require a sizable number of them to pay them back for various reason. And so on.

I was always taught in classes on safety to find the root cause for any problem to stop accidents. The same goes for these problems. It is easy to blame the mortgage fiasco on the rich or the loan businesses but that simply stops at the first level. You never get to the root cause. And, since it reflects on the people you admire in politics, it never will as long as you don’t start looking deeper.

Our government doesn’t set monetary policy (ie. interest rates and regulations). That is solely the job of the Federal Reserve. Therefore, your premise that the housing bubble, and other bubbles, are caused by the government is false. The Fed is privately held corporation with no accountability to the people or government. In fact, they’re the most damaging and greedy corporation in our country and probably the world. They should be the number one target of OWS. Second, should be companies like Walmart who take out life insurance policies on their employees then deny them healthcare. If you don’t think that giant corporations are greedy and corrupt, you need to have your head examined. OWS is right on the money. They just need some more education (and to lose the socialists).

You are correct about the Federal Reserve.

BUT … I still stand by what I said. The government (HUD among other groups) told the banks and other lenders that they wanted the people who could not qualify for loans to get them. Clinton made the comment that any bank that didn’t have at least 20% bad loans was wrong. And the loan institutes were promiced by the government (not the Fed. Reserve) that those bad loans would be covered by Freddie Mac and Fannie May. Why do you think those groups are in trouble? The loan institutes followed the orders although I do believe that they took advantage of them. Further, due to the loans house prices began to skyrocket – which allowed the people to believe that they could buy cheap and sell higher a year or two later so they weren’t worried about making the payments. But it STARTED when the government issued those orders.

Caliber needs to explain why Corporates/CEOs don’t go to jail while OWS protester do? If Caliber wants to throw in government officials that is fine with me but he needs to stop pandering to those corporate criminals as if they don’t exist.

I have no problem sending CEOs to jail when they break the laws. But they have lots of help to insure they DON’T break the laws in most cases (Enron was not one of those most cases) and the government is perfectly willing to pass laws so they won’t have to break any laws. If you catch someone who is truly breaking the law, I will be more than happy to see him/her go to jail. No CEO held a gun to the heads of those who couldn’t afford loans to make them take them. Many of those buying expected the government to actually step in and pay their mortgages for them.

I agree strongly with your point!!!