eddie,
I hope and pray you are right and it doesn’t come to pass. However, if it does, I’m going to come on here as long as I am able and call you every name I can think of, filthy or not every day!!!!

You in all your phony “conservative” glory do that all the time anyway Joe. I think it’s your temper problem and your still a lemming and will continue to be one after the election. I expect to see alot of apologies with all these false conspiracy theories about the 2012 elections. I can’t wait!

eddie,
please hold your breath while you wait for me to appologize to YOU!! I wouldn’t appologize to you if you gave me a one ounce gold coin for every word!!! you don’t understand, boy, i don’t like you and you sit here in judgement of every good constitutional conservative on this site, you try to bull crap people into thinking you support Dr. Paul when the truth is you think he can’t beat your hero Adumber so you tell people to support him, you try to convince people that martial law couldn’t possibly happen when you know it could and thereby keep some from being prepared for it, in general, edd, you aren’t worth powder it would take to……!

Ed-duh’s convoy just took a direct hit! Ed-duh, if you posted some sources, I would ease up on you. You say you are smart? How can you be when you give nothing to back up what you say. You must not have graduated college. When I had to write papers for my history professors, I had to list my sources on the back of my written assignments. This would count end notes also. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Yea—Is that right Eddie??? And who graced you with all this knowledge and wisdom??? Are you a fortune teller maybe??? We only know what we’re told and shown. Have you never read between the lines??? If you want me and others to believe and trust this Idiot President we have, he first needs to give us a reason to trust him…

Claire – That’s the most sensible question I’ve seen asked.

And no, I don’t think any of them are. None. Nada. Niet.

What’s more, I can’t understand why anyone would WANT the job, especially now.

Bush and Cheney, baaaaa! Patriot Act, baaaaa! TSA and Iraq, baaaaa! You just never come up with anything new, can you sheeple? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai doesn’t need any stinkin’ facts he just blows them off like everything else.

Who had the opportunity in 2009 with the majority in both houses being “D’S”, but didn’t? Why did he make them larger than they were before? Why didn’t he disband the TSA, DHS, and others? Why didn’t he bring home all of our troops from Iraq within the first 6 months as he promised? You have only said half truths, a you neglect to look at what Obama bin Laden has and hasn’t done. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Once again FLASE FLAG patriotism and political pressure. Trying to expose someone for not “defending” America is a death signal for that politician. To some wars equal greatness and if you don’t support those wars you are the enemy. Several Presidents and even ordinary Americans have played that game.Unfortunately that is why Ron Paul will not get elected because he doesn’t fall for that phony patriotism like the other candidates do. The same with the Patriot Act,Paul is the only one who ties it in to the loss of civil liberties. Romney,Gingrich,Santorum and Perry don’t.

Right on! You notice how she(?) only mentioned my name when she was talking about name calling? Sharon, it’s called our God given right as written in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution. So get over it. Second, you need to take some of your own advice and neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Poor baby Samurai doesn’t like to be called out especially since he loves to do the name calling. What a schizophrenic you are in your self righteousness. What a pile of—–! Time for you to be making that popping sound hemorrhoid maker!

And you are the hemorrhoid that I made. Time to flush you away. I would cut you down, but diarrhea don’t slice. Can we get back to the subject or are you going to show your infantile mentality? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

sam eddie – give it a rest -

OK, OK, I’ll stop. Sook Young saw what I was doing and isn’t too happy. Thanks! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Well said, thank you.

I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Jukebox, I’m not the ‘James’ who wrote this, I’m the biblical, constitutional ‘James.’

HEY JUKEBOX, DO YOU THINK THAT THE GDP WAS IN ANY WAY AFFECTED BY THE LOSS OF MILLIONS OF JOBS UNDER bush OR THE DEBT FROM THE WARS OR THE FAILURE OF THE bush FISCAL POLICY TO PRODUCE THE PROMISED JOBS? LOOKS LIKE YOUR SAND BOX HAS A HEAD IN IT!!

WE ARE ALL TO BLAME & THE SOONER EVERYONE GETS THAT MESSAGE THE SOONER WE WILL BECOME “US” AGAIN. THIS NATION MUST LEARN HUMILITY, SINCE THE HANDS OF THE MANY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WE HAVE ALLOWED THE HANDS OF THE FEW TO PUT US IN THE SEPTIC TANK OF SELF PITY. WE HAVE FEW TO BELIEVE IN BECAUSE WE BELIEVE “ONE” VOICE MEANS NOTHING IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS. WE WERE BORN WITH TWO THINGS (LIFE & CHOICE) BUT DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCE & “CHOICE” WE HAVE BECOME, AS A PEOPLE, HATED BY HALF THE WORLD & USED BY THE OTHER HALF OF THE WORLD. NOW WE ARE THE USERS & ARE REAPING THE HARVEST. IF A CHILD IS CROSING THE ROAD & IS ABOUT TO BE RUN OVER, WILL YOU SACRIFICE FOR THAT CHILD IF IT’S NOT YOUR OWN ?????????

Tight Fist,
Let up on the capitals!!!! A lot of folks heee won’t read ytour comments if they are all CAPS!!!

And I am one of them. I will NOT read a post that is all caps or even one that is 75% caps.

Accurate analogy and worth the reflection.

You mean like the loss of millions more jobs under Obama bin Laden, bad economy, no job stimulation, forced health care down our throats, expanded the Patriot Act, DHS, and TSA? How about the most debt created in a year by any president and the most debt recorded in our history? Neeeeed to be making that popping sond. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I told you not until you pull out first!

Care to prove me wrong with sources or do you continue to practice the classic liberal strategy of the personal attack? Come on, ed-duh. You’re behind in the game by the scor of 5-6 to 0. Aren’t you even going to show you have some gray matter and post a source? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

The only difference is that SNL is funny, while Crystal is NOT! Although I will admit that SNL was much funnier in thye old days.

Personally, I do not find fault with SNL. I think they are funnier than heck. They portray all politicians in comedy.

jukebox, there is a difference between comedy and satire and it is in the eye of the beholder!
BTW, A JUKEBOX IS NEVER THE ORIGINAL WORK!IT JUST PARROTS SOMEONE ELSE’S SOUNDS! A MECHANICAL CUT AND PASTE, IF YOU WILL.

are you parroting or actually getting the attention of your elected officials with your concerns. 10,000 e-mails might prick their curiosity, but 1,000,000 would more likely get their attention. be at least a part of the 10,000 & tell all your friends in cyber space what “you” think

Jukebox wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him upside the head! He hasn’t made an intelligent or rational comment so far only disturbing snippets.

But eddie HAS!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Good one eddie!!!

Joe H. –

And this coming from someone that doesn’t post sources and has his head so far up his backside, that he hears echos for 30 minutes after he passes gas? Neeeeed to be making that popping noise. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I can’t make that popping sound Samurai because I’m not in there. Your head swelled up and all along I thought it was hemorrhoids! When you make that popping sound I’ll know it’s time for an enema to clean out the rest of the puke.

Still no sources, eh? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

What gave you away as the source..must be the brown trail and splatter.

Here’s a source for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrV8QPQAhxo

This is how we should respect the American flag. This is one time the Dodgers did something right. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

eddie said I posted nothing but cheap shots. What the hell does he thing 2:34 and 11:18????? I still haven’t seen a source of proof on any of your inane, unsupported, inaccurate, remarks yet ed, edd, and eddie!!!!

I am sure Karolyn admires Obama’s terrorist friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, Who display their duplicitous arrogance by excoriating wealthy people, all the while living in a million dollar home.

Yes, Obama lived in a million dollar home with his 4 million dollar estate, so lets elect Mitt with his half dozen ten million dollar homes with his $300,000,000 dollar estate.

Wonder why Romney will not release his tax records.

Bill,
Who the hell is voting for romney?? My wife and I sure as hell aren’t!!

I will not vote for Romney either. It seems he is trying to buy the Presidency.

We are not going to either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

For me to date I’ve not heard of a conservative Republican or Libertarian burning a flag unless their house burned down with one in it.

You still can’t patently include all democrats as flag-burners; and the flag-burners could belong to a different party or no party at all!

I never did. I’m just relaying my experience on those that don’t appear to burn flags.

WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS WHO TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THE USA WHO HAVE RESIGNED RATHER THAN FACE PROSECUTION FOR VIOLATING LAWS?? BURNING THE FLAG VIOLATES NO FEDERAL LAWS! SPIN ME THE DIFFERENCE!

What about all the libs that resigned for violating the law or ethics? What about the one’s that refused to resign and cost this country millions of dollars? What about them? Didn’t they sware the same as the conservatives? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound! Spin another lie. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Then what do they do with old worn out flags? I believe the protocol is to b urn them. Not to put in trash…

Cut out the stars, bury the blue field, and burn the stripes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Yea its like in Calf. when the Mexican students put their flag above the U.S.flag that according to every thing I have read the American Flag is always supposed to be over every other flag on U.S.soil but in this case the American students got in trouble for putting them right what gives

Where do you folks think this kind of action is coming from? Why are the Laws and Rights of citizens of foregin countries before the laws and rights of America and Americans? Does anyone other than myself see that every right, every freedom granted to US as a free people is being threathened as we speak? This person we have elected to the higest honor is slowly destroying this country and her way of life..

Your a smart girl Lynda both the Republicans and Democrats are and will continue these actions for a long time. Bush framed the game in false patriotism and no matter who is elected (except Paul) will continue these same practices. It’s the fear of Not looking patriotic that all the candidates and our fellow Americans are fearful of. Just tonight Perry said he would send troops back into Iraq and Santorum has said we will invade Iran. The more wars we get into the more our civil rights will go missing for that is the new America.

Tight Fist,
Correction, it was a signal of DISTRESS!!

Right on! I’ll bet it’s flying that way since Obama bin Laden has taken office. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Precisely right, Tim. The Senate was *not in recess*…so no “recess appointments” could validly be made. Obama knows it; he simply doesn’t care. Remember what Phil Hare, Congressman from (wait for it…)*Illinois* said, “I dont’ worry about the Constitution.” This of, course, despite having taken an oath to do exactly that. It’s almost to the point that Dems aren’t hypocrites, anymore, because they *acknowledge* that they’re going to do what they want to do, and that they don’t give a fig about laws, rules…or the Constitution itself.

How Long Must the Senate Be in Recess Before a President May Make
a Recess Appointment? The Constitution does not specify the length of time that the Senate must be in recess before the President may make a recess appointment.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS21308.pdf

Erich,
You miss the point. THEY WERE NOT IN RECESS!!

SINCE ELECTED OFFICIAL TAKE AN OATH IN THE PRESENCE OF WITNESSES, IS THAT NOT AN ORAL CONTRACT ? IS NOT AN ORAL CONTRACT THE SAME AS A SIGNED CONTRACT ? TRY TAKING THEM TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT INDICATING THEY HAVE CAUSED YOU HARM & IRREPARABLE DAMAGE OR FILE A COMPLAINT WITH YOUR COUNTY SHERIFF INDICATING THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, OF YOUR CHOICE, HAVE STOLEN YOUR FREEDOMS & SEE IF SOME JUDGE WILL ACCEPT YOUR REASONING & PLACE A MONETARY VALUE ON

He clearly violated Article 2 Section 2 of the Constitution.

In 2007, Democrats held the same pro forma sessions every few days — “each of which lasts only a few seconds” — to prevent George W. Bush from making recess appointments. They can’t just dismiss the same strategy as a “gimmick” now. “King Barack’s” disregard for the Senate’s powers amounts to “blatantly unconstitutional overreach.”

Here we go again G Bush can do it but Obama can’t and visa versa.Is it legal or not from either side? There were NO Congressional duties being performed thus it was considered a recess. If any business was being performed then it wouldn’t be considered a recess. The Republicans have blocked numerous appointments under this administration. This latest appointment has been in the works for a couple of years and no previous nomination was put into place. So there seems to be deliberate obstruction going on. ( Yes the Democrats play this same game). Yet all the candidates seem to be qualified so I would put the pressure on the Republicans for slowing down the appointment process on this one.

How Long Must the Senate Be in Recess Before a President May Make
a Recess Appointment? The Constitution does not specify the length of time that the Senate must be in recess before the President may make a recess appointment.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS21308.pdf

AGAIN, they were not officially in recess!!! The length of time MATTERS NOT!!!

Why did you repeat yourself when you were told they were not in recess? Thanks for the information, but it has no bearing on the subject at hand. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I read somewhere (and failed to note where so I have no source to post) that the supreme court ruled the senate and house had to be adjurned three days before a recess appointment could be made.

Thanks for the info IT. It’s always good to be kept up to date on information. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Ted “without fear of reprisals” That only applies to the government.
Just try burning our flag in front of me and see what the reprisal will be!

Wargi,
There was a Texas police chief that said he by law he might not be able to arrest a man for burning the US flag, but he COULD arrest him for inciting the riot that insued on his azz afterward!!! works for me!!!

I agree with you on that. Let them come up here and do that. My whole neighborhood would be after them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Congress shall enact no laws…nor abridging the freedom of speech..”

1st Amendment of the Constitution.

How is burning our flag free speech? Not long ago, if our flag was burned in another country, it was an act of war. If someone burns it here, many of us consider that an act of treason and rebellion. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

There are also people(governments) all over the world including the USA who start wars by stirring up lies about another country. Then using flags and patriotism to keep those illegal wars going. Worked for Hitler in invading Poland and Bush in Iraq. False FLAG patriotism each time. Johnson also did it in Vietnam and that is why the flag was burned in protest over another illegal and unconstitutional War.

Like Obama bin Laden in Lybia, Yemen, and maybe Pakistan or Iran? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I don’t show party favors like you do on this issue but if you keep insisting. Then like Reagan in Central America,Lebanon and early Iraq.Something is either right or wrong and in this case it’s about foreign policy and they have all been disasters. Minus 2 points for you.

Hitler did not lie about invading Poland. He tried diplomacy at first, like he did with the Sudentenland, but England and France were dead set aginst him doing this (Since he had invaded Czechoslavakia for no reason other than land.). So, he turned around and invaded Poland to get the land he wanted, but ended up getting more. This is where the world was so surprised by the speed of the German forces. The world got a peek at Blitzkreig. Need to get your history right before you post it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai you and eddie both need to read and re-read “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” by William L shirer.

I have that book plus Mein Kampf. I guess it wouldn’t hurt me to do a little light reading over again. Thanks. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I like your statement..If our elected representatives don’t have the courage how about ordinary citizens? There a web site called Change.org..Where everyday people sign petitions for making changes..Just a thought..

See you around Lynda for I have signed over 17,000 petitions on that very site.

I believe he was a “guest” lecturer …but that no one would attend more than one lecture.

Isn’t it interesting that Obama is the only Editor of the Harvard Law Review to NEVER be published, throughout its entire history!

Read these links and get the real story

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/obama-at-columbia-university/

Erich,
Well here’s one for you!
http://www.b loggernews.net/118431-cached
There are others, as well.

that site is
http://www.bloggernews.net/118431-cached
I’ve got a bandaid on my finger tonite and it gets in the way.

Interesting point Ted but he was president of the Harvard Law Review not editor. Not sure if writing any articles was a requirement for that post.

Eddie,I’m not sure if “publishing” is a requirement of being head of every Law Review but you can bet your butt that some level of achievement is required!! I have never known of a Law School that drew it’s Law Review leader, what ever he/she was called, out of a hat!!Something tells me that he got someone’s attention for something! Maybe an unbiased opinion could figure out what it was?

NC,
how do you explain that root got better grades than Abummer and was told not to bother applying to harvard? he was told only the top 1% of Columbia would be accepted at that time. Abummer was NOT listed as top 1% at columbia and was not listed as graduating with honors which he would have had to to be in the top 1% of the school!

Perhaps had something to do with affirmative action.

libertytrain,
But every prog site says he DIDN’T USE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to get ahead!!!

I don’t know about affirmative action, but I’ll bet he got the money from some wacko source. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Joe -Then to quote Ringo – .”..got by with a little help from my friends…”

Barbara,
Yours is but one of many that have researched that area and it continues to comes up the same – “zero”. Which in turn does garner enough questions as to the validity of his being Constitutionally qualified and or eligible to hold the position of POTUS. This also applies to the his claims of non-association with nefarious groups/organizations – all of them. But the problem lies not only in the personal side of this problem but also within the ranks of the DNC and beyond. As to the possibility of this ever being brought out into the light, public light, is extremely doubtful. You must keep in mind that they will manage to manipulate or blatantly direct an overwhelming assault by their proudly supporting MSM, which they clearly have control of, to obliterate such questions into the files of “conspiracy theory” or whichever file is most fitting. Never underestimate your enemy – they will go to any lengths necessary to avoid any portion of the truth to arise.

I lived in Martinsburg, WVa..Around the same time, the Whitewater scandle was taken plce..A reporter who was digging up facts, was killed in the Marriot hotel..Conspirancy theories..Not always..Government officals who would lose everything if ‘thruths,’ were exposed will do what it takes to Make Sure the truth Naver gets outhere..

That is exactly what I was trying to get through to Barbara, Lynda. Unfortunately there are still an enormous number of “sheeple” that simply will not see it.

Obama bin Laden’s gay lovers in Chicago ended up dying also. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Karolyn, have you noticed the size of her derriere? Your derriere does not grow like her’s has since her husband took office if you are truly eating like she is telling everyone they should be eating. She needs to mind her own business and quit taking expensive vacations all the time. This woulds do two things, save the taxpayers a lot of money and reduce the size of her derriere. When you take the kind of vacations she takes, (in just 2011 her vacations cost us $10 million), you know she isn’t eating properly. If she wants to tell the country how to eat, she needs to practice what she preaches.

Helen2,
much more and they will have to post a “WIDE LOAD” sign on her anytime she walks on city streets!!!

Maybe they have to go to Big Lots for her clothes and go to the XXXX large size area? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

So pathetic Samurai and your side kick Joe!Did you two just crawl out from a cave? What Michelle has in her posterior you have made up for it in you mouth and then some.

Classic liberal strategy. The personal attack, but still no sources. The score is Samurai 5-6 and ed-duh 0. How does it feel to be shut out? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

So you make a personal attack and then again attack the person that exposes you. Classic Conservative duck and cover…. Your pants are down again!

My pants are down? Are you coming out of the closet? Were you one of those people that had meetings with Obama bin Laden at a gentlemen’s club in Chicago? You still haven’t posted any sources or facts, so I’ll stop here as this would waste my time to explain anything to a closed lib mind like yours. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

All that really matters, going forward, is we need to get this out of control, spending thug out of the White House. Any one of the Republican nominees would be better than Obama. He is by far the worst president we have ever had, and that includes Jimmy Carter! I guess the left needs to be taken care of, and have more regulations, less of the private sector, and MORE people on freaking food stamps.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Actually, we should bury them in the earth. Because deep down they are really good people. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

My wife has a large derriere also Helen but didn’t when I married her. She seldom eats breakfast(maybe toast),sometimes skips lunch and eats less than I do at dinner. She does snack on chips once in awhile but not enough to enlarge her posterior. Her mother looked exactly the same at that age so it doesn’t always come down to pigging out. Bodies change with time and some skinny people don’t look so good either. I think it’s great that Michelle teaches good eating habits and exercise. Take a look at some of the “fat” and flabby professional coaches that are out there who many look up to.

That is why she is gaining weight wrong and bad eating habits, and what he says about the presbo’s wife is true if you are going to want the country to do what you do then follow the same lines, but no they will force crap on us but will they do the obama care too you bet not, I don’t give a hoot who the the Rep candidate is at this point I will vote for him. None of them will be perfect but, anyone will be better then what we have.

Really ed-duh? My wife was only fat, big, etc., when she was pregnant four times. After that, she lost the “extra weight” in 1 – 2 months timeframe. She currently is 45 years old, 5′ 10″, and has a 30″ waistline. She doesn’t have to hardly exercise to keep it off. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

It’s Eddie,Mr Samurai! I can now assume you are also prejudice against fat people in your long list of folks to dispise. Some folks like myself are naturally thinner no matter how much we eat. I’m at a normal weight for my height but I certainly understand some peoples weight gain. My wife is not obese and neither is Michelle.

Ed,Edd &eddie,
Nobody said she was OBESE!!! They merely said she had too much junk in her trunk!!!! Her posterior has a wide exterior. Yoiu know, eddie, kinda oompa loompa!!!

If you read my post, you would see I only talked about my wife. NOt Michelle bin Laden or your wife. I’ve never met your wife, but I’m sure she’s a nice lady. I have nothing against people that have some extra weight on them. In my last job, that was wrong to be fat. I know people of various shapes and sizes and have nothing again a persons size, height, color, etc., so what is your point? Reading comprehension “0.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Some of us know exactly what you mean but once again nice duck and cover.

If the truth is duck and cover, so be it. Just like you are the master os lib spin, lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. Like I said, I was only talking about my wife and no one else. You show me where I mentioned Michelle bin Laden or your wife in my posts. I didn’t do that. Your wife is not the subject here, so I have said nothing about her. Unless you count me saying that she is probably a nice lady. Sheesh! Reading comprehension “O” or you need some new glasses. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Hey eddie,
I DID mention mooshelle. Don’t like it? TOUGH!!

Sorry, if she was exercising, and eating healthy, she would not have put on that much weight in three years. Who really cares about her weight anyway? Really…are there not sooooo many other serious issues at hand with this Obama administration, killing our country, and our rights slipping away!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

And you’re looking at him when he is doing this? I thought you were straight ed-duh. Are you like Obama bin Laden and being on the sly? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Straight and narrow and very loyal if you really give a damn.

And his name is??????

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You’re very loyal to your wife and marriage? That’s great! No problem! I hope you have many more years together. I’ve been loyal to my wife for 26 years and counting. Like I said, I’m not bringing your wife into the conversation. OK? Do you understand the words coming from my mouth? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Sorry but the Canada Free Press August 30 edition is NOT a good source of the US Constitution. Use the link below:

2011http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/

Erich,
What I find detestible is the fact that he found it in a Canadian newspaper but not in ANY American newspapers!! Does that not at least strike you as ironic??

I find you far more detestable.

I understand what you mean Joe H. My mom just gave me a copy of her history book from her senior year in high school. I compared the Constitution in her book to the book I have now. I must say, I have to use hers as it states,”…in this yar of our Lord…” in her book. Darned revisionists, progs, and atheists. Jon, why don’t you follow the advice my grandmother used to give my brother and I. You know, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, just don’t say anything.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

A meaningless appointment in any case. The agency was created by PPACA, the agency,hence the office and Mr. Cordray will soon be just a bad memory!

Were you meaning that your post is a meaningless one in any case. Right?

You must be a bitter lib to attack someone like that after everyone is gone. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Thank you, Judy. Very well said. What does the constitution say about about relentless obstructionism based on the desire to bring down an administration and president at any cost, including subordinating the interests of the citizens to your own political interests?

I am registered lifelong as an independent, with a brief term as democrat in my youth. I tend to be conservative in my outlook. I subscribed to this site looking for objective and reasoned arguments supporting the conservative cause. I was sadly mistaken, and so will unsubscribe – this is largely propaganda. If you do not believe that check out the image of Obama superimposed on those of Stalin and Hitler. Pure propaganda. I will go elsewhere for the information I am seeking.

Jim: after 2008 the democrat party had both branches of congress and the presidency. They didn’t pass a budget in 2 years. Why? Fear of repercussions in the next election?
they had those 2 years to get their agenda passed and openly refused to allow republicans to be part of the debate on the health care fiasco.
We need to Clean House–and Senate too–in the next election.

Hey Jimbo, Good riddance!!!! Independent my a*#! Clowns like you are nothing but paid Nobama hacks who go on these sites to promote the Fascist In Chief’s agenda. You are wasting your time because we don’t listen to Obamabots like you. We know the truth.

You are the unthinking clown Mark Heath. We need Independent thinkers in this country and you gleefully chase another away.Is your rigid agenda so narrow that you can’t stand another voice to be heard. Is that the Republic you want?

Mark you are wrong and eddie is correct. There is a lot that has to be done in this country. We need constructive voices to be heard above the “my way or the Highway” crowd. Last I checked I was not God and presume you aren’t either so it may be a good idea to listen to others.
One of the unfortunate aspects of reading what others think is the Viagra envy goons. You should know them by now. They are the ones that come off with “lock and load”, “keep your powder dry,”need to take these b*******ds out”, etc. Just like in a schoolyard a lot of tough talk. Where I come from if you are going to do something you do it not just talk about it unless you wanted to be thought of as a bunch of hot air. I also get disappointed with liberal sites as well. I get to read a bunch of one line rhetoric and suffer a lot of misspelling. I get to read the usual name calling too. As a matter of fact there is so much junk that the argument gets jumbled in the trash.
So Mark you go ahead and spout off your tired BS to those that disagree with you. You won’t find an answer and just become another part of the problem.

Daniel – You mean like the president of the Unions, when he was introducing Obama at a rally? You all need to check to see if Obama is starting to grow a mustache. He has violated the constitutional requirement to inforce all laws, not just the ones he approves of. Lordy, Lordy, some people need to do some more research on their own. Try starting by buying and reading the actual copies of the Delclaration of Independence, US Constitution, and all the Amendments to it.

I bet you know the truth like the more conservative thinkers once “knew” the earth was flat! Not really impressed with what you conspiracy nuts know!!I do know what the last conservatives left for an economy! second worst!!

How is someone that backs up Obama bin Laden in everything he does, and independent thinker ed-duh and daniel? He talks about propaganda? Sheesh! There is so much propaganda coming from the left, planned parenthood, gays, and other groups that support him, that it is hard to watch the news or read a newspaper without seeing more of these moronic sayings or beliefs. NC, bzzzzz! Wrong again! We were a lot better off under Bush then we are currently under Obama bin Laden. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound and get off of the kool aid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Wayne; So what if Obama is introduced at a union rally for he is introduced at business meeting also. The difference is that Obama cares about all Americans unlike the union bashers who only want their candidates to attend business rallies. Your mind is narrow Wayne and your BS is spread very wide.

Mark Heath:”We (conservtives) know the truth).
Is that the same “truth” that gave us Hoover, Nixon, bush I and bushII?
If so, thank you, for nothing! Absolutely nothing!

See “Bulls, bears donkeys and elephants” and “prosperity and the presidents” as to what the different parties have done for this great country> But be careful! It is educational and may be more than your brain can take. Give thoses sites a look and get back to me!!

Still with that one book NC (No cajones.)? It’s about the same as saying about you libtards giving us Johnson, Carter, Clinton, and Obama bin Laden. Haven’t made that popping sound yet? Why don’t you read “The Roots of Obama’s Rage” by DeSuza. It may open up and educate that obviously little lib mind of yours. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Well, if he keeps his word, thedre goes another mindless prog!!! IF he keeps his word!!

Bye! Don’t let the dorr hit you in the arse on the way out! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

As has been pointed out in a number of places, there’s a big problem with your view. It *isn’t* an interim appointment, which can be made only when the Senate is *not is session*. The Senate *is*, in fact, in session (and was when the appointment was made) based on the “pro forma” sessions used to permit the Senate to remain in session over the holidays. The White House (and feckless Harry Reid) are poo-poohing the pro-forma sessions as a “gimmick,” but there are two problems with this view. First, Reid and the Dems came up with the notion of “pro forma sessions” specifically to STOP George Bush from *making* interim appointments. How’s that not hypocritical, now that it’s this guy making ‘em? Second, recall that the two-month extension of the tax breaks, that Obama just signed, was passed into law *by one of these pro forma sessions*. Clearly, Obama didn’t think they were just a “gimmick” then; he accepted them as real, live, honest-to-God Senate sessions, able to do grown up Senatory stuff like pass laws he liked. He shouldn’t now be able to shrug them off as a gimmick, surely.

There are plenty of PIMPS to go around in influencing policy and issues and you should know that. The Patriot Act was passed because those on the right herded their fellow Congress persons into accepting it. The right formed Homeland Security without thinking of the repercussions of their actions. They allowed TSA to have unlimited powers in searching citizenry. The right with approval from the left side phonied up the false flag Iraq War. The right has consistently voted down any financial reform and sided with the corporations so wasn’t that allowing big business to run America instead of the voters? There was a whole lot of influence peddling going on there so blaming the left tells me you don’t have a clue.Now if NDAA is enforced against Americans then you will have a valid reason to complain about being prostituted from the left but until then you have to acknowledge where these polices came from and who started to impose them on the American people. Then you will have some credibility.

Bush, baaaaa! Patriot Act, baaaaa! TSA, baaaaa! Homeland Security, baaaaa! Chaaaaange! Shesh! I swear if you want a job, I guess that Obama bin Laden could give you one as a propagandist. He’ll probably give you the code name,”Joseoh Goebbels.” Since we are on this subject, if they are so bad for this country, then why didn’t he go to overturn or disband them when he had a majority in the Congress and Senate? Why did he expand them all? Can you answer these questions or am I going to hear crickets chirping? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Hey, nice sheep impression. That’s the best impression of you [by you] I’ve ever seen.

Ah yes. SSDD, eh Jon? You never answered my question from before. Is your name Jon or is that what you “girlfriend” calls you? Classic liberal strategy, the personal attack when no facts are at hand. What a waste! Also, if Michelle Bachman is a wack job, then why did she get re-elected 2-3 times? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai Baaaaaaaaa! What are you the propaganda minister for Mary Had A Little Lamb? Your trivial and cartoonist on that comment so no slam dunk there lamb chops! No he doesn’t have a majority in the House so no gold star to put in your gloat book either.

Samurai gets three gold stars and you get a red X eddie. Samurai clearly stated “when obama had the majority” he did not say obama had the majority now. Obama had super majorities in both houses for two years and did NOTHING to repeal TSA, homeland (in)security, or the patriot act. In fact under obama all three were expanded.

Bzzzzz! Wrong answer ed-duh! The House and Senate majority party were the “D”s in 2009 and 2010 or did you forget about Pelosi being the Speaker of the House and Harry “Woody Allen” Reid being the majority leader in the Senate? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound.

“When the people rise in masses in behalf of the Union and the liberties of their country, truly may it be said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.”

Abraham Lincoln

If Lincoln said it was basically OK to rise up in rebellion for this country and our rights in his day, why can’t we do that now? You don’t nee guns, but marching on Washington in sheer numbers would get the message across. I can just see Obama bin Laden running for cover as the Marines jooin the crown against him. Here is another site to look at ed-duh.

http://www.usfreedomfighters.com

Sheesh! This makes 5-6 sources and you have yet to post one. What’s up with that? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Thank you Opal and have a good weekend. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

That is nothing more than dangerous propaganda and hardly patriotic. Looks like your the one who supports Goebbels tactics not me. That’s the main reason I don’t post that kind of diatribe and will not bite into your apple.

So marching on Washington in peaceful protest is worthy of Goebbels? If it worked for Martin Luther King, Jr., it can work for us now. Thank you for showing just how idiotic you really are, ed-duh. I guess you are saying the MLK, Jr. used nazi tactics in the Civil Rights Movement, hmmm? Sheesh! I never thought he was a nazi, but it seems you do. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Jukebox,
Yup, and now the head pimp is strengthening and reauthorizing the patriot act!!!

Joe, I did not like the “Patriot Act” to begin with. If you check the votes you will probably see that Both parties had a large hand in its creation and passage. I have never been an Obama fan but if there is a fight to be had let’s get it straight. Don’t forget that it was promised to be used only in terrorist investigations during Bush II and under same president the FBI used it in RICCO investigations which was challenged and upheld in our courts!
So let’s get past this and you inform all of us as to how this situation can be changed. Name calling and referring to guns is idiotic so be constructive.

daniel,
Be that as it may, Adumber strengthened and re-affirmed the patriot act AFTER it had been in effect for FOUR YEARS!!! Please don’t piss down my leg and tell me it’s raining, sonny!!!

This is all very true ,and when the night of the long knifes happened at the same time, they went and rounded up the gays aswell to complete there house cleaning.My dads brother Robert returned to Germany in 1940 to joint the vaunted SS so my family has a direct accounting of these maters.

Jukebox-Where you been -He Has not shown ONE piece of ligitiment identification of any kind, even his ssn is false -it is a Connecticut listed SSN-!

I received the following in an email recently. Haven’t had an opportunity to try and debunk it, so take it for what it’s worth.

The Plot Thickens….
ISN’T IT TRUE THAT TO GET A SSN ONE MUST BE A CITIZEN OF THE USA? WHY USE ANOTHER PERSON’S??

An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama’s current SSN) on or about March 1977.

Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut. Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents.

Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever!

Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii, where he died.

Conveniently, Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.

The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig’s death, and because he never received Social Security benefits, there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.

The suspicion, of course, is that Dunham, knowing her grandson was not a U.S. Citizen, either because he was born in Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia upon his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, simply scoured the probate records until she found someone who died who was not receiving Social Security benefits, and selected Mr. Ludwig’s Connecticut SSN for Obama.

Just wait until Trump gets past the birth certificate and onto the issue of Barry O’s use of a stolen SSN. You will see leftist heads exploding, because they will have no way of defending Obama. Although many Americans do not understand the meaning of the term “natural born” there are few who do not understand that if you are using someone else’s SSN it is a clear indication of fraud.

Let’s all get this information out to everybody on our mailing lists. If the voters of this great nation can succeed in bringing this lying, deceitful, cheating, corrupt, impostor to justice it will be the biggest and best news in decades for our country and the world.

Knowing this and Obama’s Birth date, I hope that ‘many’ will steal his identity and used.

Take the time to verify your actuations! Your comments are worthless. Would you post your Social Security number on the Internet? Think about it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

SG,
That would all be well and fine BUT, and please do note its a very BIG but,- we for one have not used the ” Original” Constitution for well over 150 years.
We use and have used the 1871 Constitution from 1871 on to today.

I beg all of you to PLEASE do some looking in to it and PROVE it to yourself, don’t take my word hell its all quite well doucmented and with some slight effort anyone can prove all this to themself.

We are under UCC Law, that lends to Maritime Law, as both fail to fit under the ” ORIGINAL ” Constitution you have very valid proof of what I say with just that alone.
But please try and PROVE me wrong, what you will find is you can’t.

Als, as O Barry is a CEO and not a POTUS, just as we have NO Congress its all just a word play, what we really have is little more than a Board of Directors.
That means in simple words, We have NO RIGHTS under either the bill of rights or the ” Original” Constitution, as the 13th and 14th Amendments took away all your rights.

Again I beg all of you do the work and find out for yourself. The more of you that know the TRUTH, the faster we can all spread the TRUTH.

Again out of 44 POTUS, 43 have been related by blood.
Thats so easy to prove, all it would take is two seconds on google.

If you all don’t wake the hell up very soon, you will not be posting here anylonger as this sight will be closed down.
OH and you will all be tracked down and placed in a CAMP where more than likly you will never be seen again.
Think bloody HITLER’S holiday camps.

Really wake up, open the real PANDORA’S BOX, and look inside.

Youtube is now taking down 10,000 feeds per day; so before you will not be able to find truth’s anywhere, so get busy.

Also Look into the following, Alex Jones, sights prisonplanet.com
or Infowars.com

TIME – Apparently, what you say is true. We haven’t been operating under our Constitution and Bill of Rights for a very long time. And, that being the case, there are no requirements to be POTUS (CEO) except that one be the pick of the elite power brokers.

However, since this change to our governance was made without the consent of the people, we can claim our sovereign being and renounce any jurisdiction of this maritime law. This “law” can only claim authority over corporate interests, and we, as natural humans, are not corporate entities, and therefore cannot be bound by corporate law except by our consent.

Sure, the PTB are becoming more brazen and have very big guns. But if we continue to hand ourselves over to them like cowering dogs, our fates will be worse than if we stand up and, possibly, fall by one of their weapons. You know, give me liberty or…and all that.

If we stand up to them, we may perish. But if we don’t, we and all those we love will surely perish.

Erich: Snopes is an old man and his wife working off of their kitchen table from what I have read. They are simply parrots repeating what they are told to repeat. George Soros has been named in some circles as being their funding and pulling their strings. There was a story a while back where they quoted a source involved in a story and he said he had never been contacted by Snopes and their statement was wrong. Also, if Snopes says Obama might have had a mailing address in CT but didn’t live there, exactly why would that be? Where is any mention of him having a mailing address there? That is a long ways from HI.

Singer, the reason that SSN starts with 042 and now belongs to a person born in the early 60s, assuming that’s actually his SSN, is that it formerly belonged to someone who is now dead. Beginning with a 0, it would have belonged to someone closer to the beginning of the SS program.

I could be wrong, but I have always understood SSNs to rotate numerically. As one person died, the number was issued to a new applicant. I’ve never heard of it having anything to do with any state of origin.

Also, people who steal SSNs for personal use tend to assume the name and identity of the person whose SSN it is. It’s not like I can take John Smith’s number and pay Alex Frazier SS taxes on it.

If he’s using a bogus number belonging to someone dead and unreported, then he’s either getting away with something that no one, even a person trying to get a bit of financial credit, can get away with, because credit checks require the name and number to match. You can’t file tax returns, because the name and number doesn’t match.

He would presently, prior to any presidential bid, have been in trouble for tax evasion long ago. And he would have been in trouble long enough ago that there wouldn’t be any powers that be intervening. He’d have just been busted.

So I would take that information with a grain of salt. Anything is possible, but it doesn’t sound likely to me from a logical point of view.

Everything about him is a lie! Obama bin Laden have some other things incommom. First, they were not born in the country they were elected in. Hitlet was from Austria, not Germany. Obama bin Laden from either Kenya or Indonesia, not the U.S. Second, both used unions. Hitler turned on them in the end, but Obama bin Laden is still using them. I wonder what will happen when they become useless to him? Will he do the same thing by slamming them in some way? They both transformed their counties into socialist states. Obama bin Laden hasn’t turned the U.S. into a totally socialist run state, but he is trying is hardest to do so. Tird, they have sent troops to other countries for their own political or personal gain. Hitler invaded Austria, to unite Germany with his homeland and suuport the Nazi Party there, and Czechoslavakia, who were protesting to the international community about the loss of the Sudentenland. Obama bin Laden bombed Lybia, without any voting by Congress or the Senate, bombed places in Yemen, Pakistan, and sent troops to Uganda, maybe to support his brother in Kenya. Fourth, they both had a “Youth Corps” and used children to help them get elected. We all remember how children used to sing songs about Hitler and how the children from a school in Chicago sang the “Obama bin Laden song.” Fifth, they also wanted to have a civilian army to be just as large and as trained as the army was. Hitler had the SS and to some extent, the Gestapo, Obama bin Laden had his own:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcmOoAcEeyO

They also began to lose favor with the people and with their own parties after coming to power. Could this be that the people, Germans and now Americans, have found out too late what they had voted into office? This election day, before you make up your minds of who to vote for, please take the time to get as much info on all the candidates and then vote. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Alex Frasier – There is a great deal of evidence that Obama was being groomed for this role for most of his life. There are those who say that he was with the CIA.

With money and power behind him, they would be orchesrating his fake identification and numerous SS#s. The very fact that he rose virtually from nowhere, with no verifiable past, no one who remembers him (except a few unsavories who haven’t been reported in the MSM, and more unsavories who met with tragic deaths (except one, who survived an attempt on his life and has been blacklisted by the media), and has everyone in government and media covering for him no matter how many have claimed that we have the right to know…

Doesn’t that tell you that something is fishy in Denmark?

It should.

Erich has it right. See his reference to Snopes that shows this charge against Obama is a Hoax.

Alex Frazier says:
January 7, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Singer, the reason that SSN starts with 042 and now belongs to a person born in the early 60s, assuming that’s actually his SSN, is that it formerly belonged to someone who is now dead. Beginning with a 0, it would have belonged to someone closer to the beginning of the SS program.

I could be wrong, but I have always understood SSNs to rotate numerically. As one person died, the number was issued to a new applicant. I’ve never heard of it having anything to do with any state of origin.

Also, people who steal SSNs for personal use tend to assume the name and identity of the person whose SSN it is. It’s not like I can take John Smith’s number and pay Alex Frazier SS taxes on it.

If he’s using a bogus number belonging to someone dead and unreported, then he’s either getting away with something that no one, even a person trying to get a bit of financial credit, can get away with, because credit checks require the name and number to match. You can’t file tax returns, because the name and number doesn’t match.

He would presently, prior to any presidential bid, have been in trouble for tax evasion long ago. And he would have been in trouble long enough ago that there wouldn’t be any powers that be intervening. He’d have just been busted.

So I would take that information with a grain of salt. Anything is possible, but it doesn’t sound likely to me from a logical point of view.

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S.S. numbers are have never been re-issued,

SSA has issued about 365 million Social Security numbers, and about 10 million new numbers are assigned each year. But even at this rate, there will be no need to reissue the same numbers, revise the present system, or devise a new numbering system for several generations. For this reason, SSA plans to continue using the nine-digit number.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/gvb09.htm
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Q20: Are Social Security numbers reused after a person dies?

A: No. We do not reassign a Social Security number (SSN) after the number holder’s death. Even though we have issued over 453 million SSNs so far, and we assign about 5 and one-half million new numbers a year, the current numbering system will provide us with enough new numbers for several generations into the future with no changes in the numbering system.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html

None of the facts in that e-mail makes any sense. The first 3 digits of the SSN does not indicate the state where it was issued. My family applied for SSN at around the same time and we ALL have ssn starting with different first 3 digits. Mr. Ludwig came to the US in 1924 and was assigned a SSN in 1977?? And Obama’s grand mother took that number and gave it to her grandson. Doesn’t one have to apply for SSN from the SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, a federal government agency?
There are SO MANY HOLES in this e-mail and you waste your time and OUR TIME.

To addd to your excellent comments, the “final” obama birth certificate lists his race as African/American. He was born in 1961, long before that term come into usage. Also, his mother and grandmother reportedly both worked for the CIA so it is conceivable obama’s whole history was created, not factual. If I’m a birther, then so be it. People are asked for their birth certificte for far less important things (i.e – here in W.Va. we now have to show one to get a drivers license). Even if he doesn’t get re-elected, someone needs to devote some real time to getting to the bottom of this clown. America the Beautiful has been sold a bill of goods…

JimBob – There have already been many investigations. You just have to look to find them, because the MSM isn’t going to report on it. The country needs to be presented with ALL of the evidence.

There is so much that has been dug up on him, done by credible people who have gone to great expense and personal risk to learn the facts.
Yet, they find themselves marginalized, if ever even mentioned, and they suffer death threats or, at the very least, devastation to their careers. They are usually made unheard and irrelevant.

An eligibility hearing is now set for Jan. 26th. We’ll see if it goes the way of every other, including one scheduled before the Supremes, which, inexplicably, simply disappeared from the docket.

In each case, the judge who agreed to hear it was paid a “visit” prior, and for some reason then either dismissed the case without explanation, or resigned.

BTW, Judge Roll ruled against O in an attempt by him to legalize the confiscation of citizen’s retirement funds. Look what happened to him. It’s a message that you don’t try to be a hero. Should you hold any notions about upholding your oath to the Constitution…

Further, you can be sure that if something like this were to be in question about a conservative, it would be heralded from one end of the Earth to the other. I can also say that even conservatives would demand compliance of their own, unlike progressives, who don’t care who this fraud is, but only that they win. Even if it is at great cost to our nation and to our countrymen.

Alex Frazier writes:
“Singer, the reason that SSN starts with 042 and now belongs to a person born in the early 60s, assuming that’s actually his SSN, is that it formerly belonged to someone who is now dead.”

We know that already. The correct name was even given to us. So much easier to steal from the dead. They don’t complain as much.

Alex Frazier: “Beginning with a 0, it would have belonged to someone closer to the beginning of the SS program. I could be wrong, but I have always understood SSNs to rotate numerically. As one person died, the number was issued to a new applicant. I’ve never heard of it having anything to do with any state of origin.”

Jibbs already gave you some links.

Alex Frazier: “Also, people who steal SSNs for personal use tend to assume the name and identity of the person whose SSN it is. It’s not like I can take John Smith’s number and pay Alex Frazier SS taxes on it.”

You could get a “legal name change”. People do it all the time when they get married. Either party of the marriage can do it btw.

Alex Frazier: “If he’s using a bogus number belonging to someone dead and unreported, then he’s either getting away with something that no one, even a person trying to get a bit of financial credit, can get away with, because credit checks require the name and number to match. You can’t file tax returns, because the name and number doesn’t match.”

Funny you should mention that. EVerify rejects Obama’s name / number.
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2011/110914/frontpage-everify.html

Also of interest I could not find in the first 2-3 pages of the search any evidence that anyone has provided any counter evidence that the everify rejection is a hoax.

Even the liberal bastion of Hoax Busters, Snopes, had no input when I searched. (everify obama ssn are the search terms I used on both sites.

Pierre from NY writes:
“The first 3 digits of the SSN does not indicate the state where it was issued. My family applied for SSN at around the same time and we ALL have ssn starting with different first 3 digits.”

You may have noticed that there are more than 50 numbers possible in 3 digits. Do you think that the SSA was planning ahead for 999 states? Lets see what the SSA has to say.

“Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued.”

So what happend after 1972? Now it gets messy but explains why the SSN is from Connetict but people seem to be from Hawaii.
“Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence.”

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

So now we have to ask when Obama got his SSN. The above could explain why it is from a state where he has never lived.

Pierre from NY: “Mr. Ludwig came to the US in 1924 and was assigned a SSN in 1977?? And Obama’s grand mother took that number and gave it to her grandson. Doesn’t one have to apply for SSN from the SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION, a federal government agency?”

As you will note from the email you are trying to debunk it is said that Obama’s grand mother worked for said federal agency. Prior to 1972 such things were handled in local offices. That is why it is interesting to know when Obama got his SSN.

Pierre from NY writes:
“The first 3 digits of the SSN does not indicate the state where it was issued. My family applied for SSN at around the same time and we ALL have ssn starting with different first 3 digits.”

Btw to explicitly answer your question of the different 3 digit first numbers we again turn to the SSA
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/stateweb.htm

Just look up your state and see. Keep in mind if you applied after 1972 it is the zip code of the mailing address and not the residence that counts.

While checking with SSA on this number stuff I ran across this tidbit
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/randomizationfaqs.html#what

Either because they finally decided to do something about how easy it is to guess someones SSN based on knowing the state of birth, Or because of all the people concerned about Obama’s birth certificate (you choose ) they have decided to randomize the number issued.

Their claimed reason is:
“Why is the SSA changing the way it assigns the SSN?
The SSA believes that randomly assigning the SSN will help protect the integrity of the SSN. Changing assignment methodology will also extend the available pool of nine digit SSNs in every state.”

Alex Fraiser,
Prior to 1973, social security numbers were issued by state, after 73, they were issued by zip code. See:
geneaology.about.com/od/SOCIAL_SECURITY/a/numbers.htm-cached

Awesome now let’s do something about it. Come on Donald!

Only dopes believe Snopes.

And this is one of a thousand reasons why the American people need to march right up to the white house gates and DEMAND he and the rest of his herd vacate the premises immediately. He is an illegal occupying the oval office where he has no right to be. and because he is an illegal alien, he is doing everything he can to grant amnesty to all illegals, because he IS one himself.

Why are we letting this crap continue?

STAND UP AMERICA AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT! Do what our Constitution says we MUST do. REVOLT!

Here’s another point to ponder. How can someone who has never served in our armed forces be the commander in chief of them? It’s like to be a brain surgeon you only need a COLB from Hawaii. He is now practically disbanding our military, leaving us with our asses hanging out in the wind. I look at obama-the-joke and get sick to my stomach.

All wannabe presidents should have to had served and fought for this country in our military. OH! And as a side note, they, as well as their parents, need to be natural born American citizens with PROOF of same. All others need not apply.

“Disbanding the military” that is so untrue. If he wants to build an American base in Australia with a troop strength of 15,000 then I would say he is expanding the military. Several Presidents never served so that is unrealistic also. There are dozens of countries in our world who are run by militaristic leaders and they are some of the worst. Our system of free choice is much more compatible to freedom which allows the citizenry to make the decisions of who governs. If a military leader is chosen that is fine but with the approval of voters.

There is no provision in the Constitution that requires past military experience to be president. Our presidency is to be of civilian “authority.” Furthermore, just because someone doesn’t have military experience doesn’t mean that person couldn’t be an effective Commander-In-Chief. What this man is doing in the White House is detestable, and I believe, impeachable, but Congress doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to do it, and the Senate doesn’t have the votes to convict, nor the stomach to do it.

Just as point eddie:

Presidents who Served in the Military
George Washington: Revolutionary War (Continental Army)
James Monroe: Revolutionary War (Continental Army)
Andrew Jackson: War of 1812 (Army)
William Henry Harrison: Indian campaigns (Army)
John Tyler: War of 1812 (Army)
Franklin Pierce: Mexican War (Army)
Abraham Lincoln: Black Hawk War (Indian Wars) (Army)
Ulysses S. Grant: Mexican War and Civil War (Army)
Rutherford B. Hayes: Civil War (Army)
James A. Garfield: Civil War (Army)
Chester A. Arthur: Civil War (Army)
Benjamin Harrison: Civil War (Army)
William McKinley: Civil War (Army)
Theodore Roosevelt: Spanish American War (Army)
Harry Truman: World War I (Army)
Dwight Eisenhower: World War I and World War II (Army)
John F. Kennedy: World War II (Navy)
Lyndon B. Johnson: World War II (Navy)
Richard Nixon: World War II (Navy)
Gerald Ford: World War II (Navy)
Jimmy Carter: Cold War era (Navy)
Ronald Reagan: World War II (Air Force)
George H.W. Bush: World War II (Navy)
George W. Bush: Vietnam War era (Air Force Reserve)

That can be done, but it requires the commitment to die. To change what is going on can be accomplished as simply as marching 100,000 strong on Washington, armed. Make it known to the police ahead of time that you are marching armed to defend yourself, not to start some unlawful sedition, but that if they attempt to interfere with your lawful right to bear arms for the preservation of the free state, or your right of assembly to redress the government for grievances, they would be shot without warning. So don’t even show up in their riot gear.

But if you do that, the military will show up. The point will get made, some changes might even be effectuated, but some people will die on both sides to see it happen. So people need to be prepared to commit.

Very true Moonbeam. I think they should do at least their hitch, now a days it is 4 years, so they will know what the military will go through when deployed. Clinton and Obama bin Laden never served. Obama because of his immigration status and Clinton went to college in England, but he did belittle his country while there. Acts of a coward. Clinton was a president of no morals. We all remember him saying on national TV, “I did not have sex with that woman.”, then to be caught in his lie. Obama bin Laden has no morals, ethics, patriotism, or beliefs that our country can actually turn around. See the examples we have of presidents that have never served? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Give us the signal to march on the whitehouse,he is pitiful,a disgrace to his race,he swings in the trees with the best of them.kissinger,reid,
pelosi,schumer,bushes,clintons etc. pullout the union of states and join up with Arizona,they are standing up for the “Federal Laws,”in their state,put all Americans back to work have them round up the illegals
by putting a bounty on them,$50,000. per head,watch them vacate America!
If we don’t their are plans to give them our social security benefits
our governor is already doing that up here in Alaska to the tune of $139 Million annually to the illegals!!!

“George W. Bush: Vietnam War era (Air Force Reserve)”

for crying out loud! “era”??? “Reserve”?

I was a Cub Scout once , during the Howdy Doody era

Yes, most of our Presidents were military men at one time.

And Fred was the first commissioned military fairy! So what?

“Friedrich Wilhelm August Heinrich Ferdinand von Steuben (born Friedrich Wilhelm Ludolf Gerhard Augustin von Steuben; September 17, 1730 – November 28, 1794), also referred to as the Baron von Steuben,[1] was a Prussian-born military officer who served as inspector general and Major General of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. He is credited with being one of the fathers of the Continental Army in teaching them the essentials of military drills, tactics, and disciplines.[2] He wrote the Revolutionary War Drill Manual, the book that served as the standard United States drill manual until the War of 1812″

Learn more about this interesting man we all owe a debit to.

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You’ve posted this before deerinwater (Bob Wire) and still haven’t posted a source. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Citizens certainly have the right to question any SS number which may be used illegally to gain benefits.Yet Singer Guy that burden of proof or guilt would fall on Obama’s grandmother if what you say is true. Any person who is given a SS number will automatically assume it is his/hers without question. I would never question mine and I doubt if anyone else even considers theirs to be someone elses. President Obama in all fairness would have assumed that his SS number was original and his,just like anyone else. Unless you can Prove that his birth certificate is not real then the question is mote and the only guilt would fall on his grandmother. There are also only 35 persons/families living in the USA with the name Obama. Yet there are at least two dozen SS numbers with Barack Obama’s name on them and issued in several states. Either the President did alot of interstate traveling in his day or someone out there is scamming his name in one big hoax. Don’t stop questioning someones integrity but make sure that the proof is irrefutable.

THE QUESTION IS NOT WETHER OR NOT OBAMA HIMSELF STOLE THE SS CARD NUMBER. THE QUESTION IS ONE OF LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. THAT LEAVES OPEN THE QUESTION OF HIS CITIZENSHIP AND HIS BEING LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. CHECKMATE

The bottom line question is if Obama’s first job was in Hawaii, as he claims, then why doesn’t he have an SS number issued from Hawaii?

Jim and 4USA2 are right. Good job and good job at catching ed-duh off guard with well thought out questions. How does it feel to get choke slammed again, ed-duh? Can you answer there questions? How about how can he have a SSN from Connecticut when he has never lived there? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

There could be several explanations such as Alex Frazier’s above (7:53) or whether that story about his grandmother is true.When SS cards were given out back then it wasn’t always at birth but when you applied for a job. I didn’t get one until I was in my teens and the same with my kids. There is no slam dunk Samurai so wipe that smirk off you face because it is only temporary.

eddie, are you illiterate??? you just gave credence to 4USA2s post!!!! WATTA MAROON!!!!

Have you forgotten what I said about you and your fellow libs before, ed-duh?

“By means of schrew lies unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell – and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

This describes you and your ilk to a “T” and you know it. Just a bunch on buttheads that want to make this country into a socialist state. But you will fail, due to the many patriots and the hand of Almighty God standing in your way. Here is also a video that tells about the evil of Obama bin Laden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC7j6LMJWzl

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. So far, I’ve posted 3-4 sources, so where are yours ed-duh?

It says the video is not available. Is that another one of your magic tricks to impress the girls. I don’t do references because they are always one sided as I’m sure some of yours are.

If the video is unavailable, then I’ll have to find another source. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. At least I’ve posted some sources, so what is your major malfunction in not doing the same?

Eddie, I was wondering how long it was going to be before you started defending that pretender?

Kate,

Yes I know.
What we as a nation need to do is all 300 Million break away from this criminal form of leadership.
As you noted it all this was done behind closed doors and if you ask 98% of the people you meet if we have “TWO Constitutions.”

The first thing they do is look at you like you have two heads. Next they are quite clever to answer with mindless retorts like, No we don’t! Put down the Koolaid.

We give a three hour lecture on this at least 2 times per week to as few as 75 people as well as many as 300.
They leave these lecture’s spellbound, Why? We show them all the doucments that expose it all.
I start the lecture with this quote, “I want you to forget everything YOU THINK YOU KNOW,” until you do you can never learn the TRUTH.

Good work, TIME, and bless you. You are really doing something to help educate people.

The truth is that no one wants to hear the truth. They can’t deal with having their long-held beliefs, their paradigms, shattered. I’ve actually had people tell me they’d rather not know…would rather believe in a lie, than know things which are terrible.

I think it has to do with feeling powerless. It’s just to much for most people. Unfortunately, ignorance is no protection from the plans of a few evil souls, and only results in them playing the game by the rules of the elite without realizing what they are doing.

Keep up the good work. Truth always wins in the end.

HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Good post, fellow patriot! Let’s keep up the good fight. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Jon – you’re coming across like a middle school kid. You try so hard yet you can’t control yourself. You’re no different than those you try and shame with your comments. We can learn nothing from you.

Sorry, but I was not addressing you. I was addressing Samurai in particular. I didn’t feel Michelle Bachmann was a strong enough candidate and make the comment about that awhile back. He and he wife got down on me for saying so. They slammed me for my opinion. His wife went on and on and put me down for assuming I don’t like strong women, just because I said the littlest thing about the person they were putting on a pedestal. And since you didn’t know the background of why I said what i did, please don’t assume you know me.
PEACE!

I am aware you weren’t addressing me. I was addressing you. You just don’t see you are playing the same game you rile against.

Jon,
since you bring up the question of supporting candidates, just WHO are YOU supporting?? Before you ask me, I’m supporting Ron Paul, the ONLY candidate gives an A+ rating on second ammendment rights!

Excuse my mistake. That last sentence should read: I’m supporting Ron Paul, the only candidate Gun Owners of America gives an A+ rating to on supporting second ammendment rights!

Your statement, “I don’t like strong women” tells me more than any other comment you made. Really? You just like strong men? Gag

OK Jon? Is that your name or what your girlfriend calls you? Anyway, my wife liked Michelle Bachman because she was a strongwoman, is a Christian, and has some of the same beliefs she has. Is this good enough for you? We have also, after doing research on the candidates, are going to vote for Ron Paul. He seems to be the better candidate on many of the issues of the current time. How about you Jon, or whatever your name is? Who are you voting for, if you know? I’ll tell you what, Michelle Bachman is a heck of a lot smarter than your obviously uneducated mind. Come onto this thread just to make a personal attack. Classic liberal strategy. I’ll be waiting for you to answer Joe H, Libertytrain, Margi, and my questions. Will you have the nads to show up and answer, or isn’t you paid for time with your girlfriend up yet? Eeeeewwwww! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

The Measure of the woman is still intact,who do you suppoert lib?.

At least she is an honorable woman and American, so what is your excuse? Mommy didn’t hug you enough when you were a kid? Neeeeed to be making that popping noise. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samaurai – no different.

Notice that Jon didn’t come back with a response. SSDD from the libs on this site. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Jon? Hey Jon? JON!!!! you gonna answer???? Or did you just go hide behind mommies skirts???

I think he went back down into his mother’s basement. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Sorry, I didn’t respond sooner. I have a life outside this website. How about you? Hiding behind my mommie’s skirt is better than your choice of hiding in your daddies dirty boxers. I wish I could hide behind my mom’s skirt, but she’s dead! (offensive words removed)

Sheesh! Such a thought out and mature response, NOT! Classic liberal strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

(offensive comment removed)

I was talking about how you posted, as if you were a teenager in your response. Not what you said about your mom. Understand? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Michele Bachmann is a whack job. I know that by the words that come out of her own mouth. Sure, she’s a good American, great to look at, a good mother and wife, but she make herself look like an uninformed idiot in the interviews she’s given on TV. She has stated many things that are totally not true. She evidently doesn’t take the time to get her facts straight. You want my source? Just search Google for the lies and the darnedest things Michele Bachmann says. There are an endless supply. I do however like Ron Paul. He tells is like it is. And when he does, people don’t seem to be able to handle the truth of the matter. I would vote for him

If you made your choice by how she sounds on TV, then you are ignorant. Just because a person is not so good on TV doesn’t mean they aren’t good enough to lead this country. You notice how Obama bin Laden can’t give a speech when he has no teleprompter, so what’s the difference? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Thank you and I agree with you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!