I’m pointing out exactly how insignificant he is. I couldn’t care less what he thinks, what he says, or who he likes or dislikes.

Ron Paul is a spotless, incorruptible statesman, and that’s what scares the crap out of idiotic neoconservatives like Morris.

you are absolutly right there Vince

DeMint was the chief backer of the “American is a Battleground” bill.

I was unaware of that. Need to look into it. I would also like to ask the question as to who really knows what is in the bill? I know what the media and the talking heads of the parties are saying about it. Who has read it? I will look for the information and read it.

DeMint voted for the NDAA, you know, the one that gives the Executive Branch the power to detain an American Citizen indefinitely.

Ron Paul for POTUS!

That’s what I meant by my response. Cound’t remember the name of it. I live in SC and have no love for DeMint OR Graham.

I agree 100% except for Bachmann & Santorum not being conservative. Bachmann is doing her best to repeal Oblabla care. the others are trying very little to do so. But it is her main objection and she will get it done. If not, We have lost the United States of America and not have to even worry about elections again…And yes, Jim Demint is my hero…

If Ron Paul weren’t in the race, Bachmann would be my second choice. I like her ideals, for the most part, but she doesn’t really have enough experience to run the country. She’d make a good VP, perhaps.

Bachmann has a good conservative base but her support of US military interventionism and the Patriot Act are the sticklers with me.

They don’t need much experience if they just butt out of running our lives and the lives of those people in other countries. Unfortunately, Michele falls flat on the latter, and she voted for the Unconstitutional NDAA, as well as the Unconstitutional Patriot Act.

Allen West recently made the comment that “Democrats are all Joseph Goebbels of Nazi Germany and they want another Holocaust”. Anyone who would say that would make a fine propaganda minister for the deranged but not for respect or credibility.

Propaganda eddie, propaganda. Wasn’t Goebbles Hitler’s Propaganda Minister? West never said the Dems were Nazi’s but that their successful propaganda machine would make even Goebbles proud.

How many times was Bush compared to Hitler and the liberal media didn’t make a big deal out of it?

This is actually what Allen West said…word for word which is very different than your version.

“If Joseph Goebbels was around, he’d be very proud of the Democrat Party because they have an incredible propaganda machine,” West told reporters in the Capitol. “I think that you have, and let’s be honest, you know, some of the people in the media are complicit in this, in enabling them to get that type of message out.”

West was responding to a question about Congress’s low poll numbers and the fact that public blame is centered more on the Republicans. A Pew Research Center poll released Thursday found two in three voters in favor of tossing out most members of Congress in 2012, with a larger share of the blame aimed at the GOP.

The freshman Republican, whose district is in heavily Jewish South Florida, said his reference to Goebbels wasn’t designed to link Democrats to the overall Nazi party.

“I’m talking about propaganda, OK,” he said. “Don’t start taking my words and twisting it around. I’m talking about propaganda. And I think that’s a very important thing. When you tell me that everyone thinks that the only people on Capitol Hill are House Republicans, it’s because that’s what’s being portrayed, is that there’s nobody else up here.”

“Once again, you guys will take whatever I say and you will spin it to try to demonize me or demagogue me,” West added. “What I’m talking about is a person that was the minister of propaganda. And I’m talking about propaganda. So please. I’ll be prepared to wake up tomorrow and you guys make up some crazy story. Whatever.”
http://www.whyzzat.com/threads/allen-west-compares-democrats-to-nazi-propagandist-joseph-goebbels.10019/

How come it doesn’t surprise me, Jeff, that Eddie got that wrong? Maybe we should pool our money to send him to a reading comprehension class.

I think it’s the Goebble’s Nazi styled propaganda machine and of course his own mind and…a huge amount of self doubt.

After two years it’s pretty obvious that no amount of lessons will help…it can’t be fixed.

I only wrote it down the way I read it in another blog site and the word Holocaust was used in the main article. Without that word he comes close to saying the same thing you brought up and neither is very appropriate. Thanks for the correction.

Verify eddie, always verify…and no, what West said wasn’t inappropriate…only the liberal media could twist West’s words into something it isn’t just like liberal blogs.

Verify…and you’re more than welcome.

Was that the real Eddie? I’m in shock.

Nobody said it affects me, which is a straw-man argument anyway, though it might be used to impede me or anyone attempting to preach that homosexuality is a sin. If same sex marriage is allowed religious conscious objection on the subject goes out the window.

As to your contention that we’re not a Christian nation, it’s true the Founders didn’t establish any one denomination as an official church and left people free to pursue other religions, but a number of Supreme Court decisions in the 1800s says we are one. Even as late as 1950 Harry Truman urged prayer and religious (ostensibly Christian) revival. It’s obvious you don’t know your history as well as you think you do, plus you validate Star Parker’s contention that many RP supporters are just the flip side of the narcissistic OWS crowd- they don’t want to be held to much of any standards.

WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO???????

Because the neighbor coking meth could set the neighborhood on fire!

If drugs were legalized, manufacture and sales could be controlled. Do you seriously believe that prohibition of illegal drugs is working? Did you know that alcoholics outnumber addicts by around 5 to 1? Why isn’t alcohol illegal? It is even more devastating than drug addiction.

Only if you live in roe houses and that sort of neighborhood needs to be burnt down

If the drugs were legally obtainable through your local pharmacy, the neighbor would have no reason to be cooking meth. Adios problem.

I dont care if you sleep with sheep, that dosent mean that I support it, it just means that in a free country it is your choice.

Until sleeping with sheep causes and epidemic, like small pox as an example, and you loved ones contract it. There is good purpose in the rule of law, which by the way is what a true republic is about. We do not want a police state but we do want to protect and have order. One only has to view a gay parade to see that the rights of others to not have to walk down the street and have their children exposed to it is a reason for order. What about my right to be involved in what my children are learning at school. They are teaching that gay is good and normal to grade schoolers by the way. Don’t I have a right as a citizen to have morality around me. Do I determine morality? No, but I think that clearly a majority of Americans think that the gay lifestyle is immoral. When do behaviors have precedence to be considered a right over the rights of others? Rights are only God given because they are unseperable, like race and birth gender; not what people think in thier minds. There are also limitations to what should be considered a right just as there are limitations to the abuse you would accept from another person. Think about these things a little.

So as it stands right now you cannot tell a school that they cannot teach your child about the gay lifestyle. The department of education is government run and is indoctrinating our children with the gay agenda. You think the gay lifestyle is immoral, yet you think, that a man who is for less government control is wrong? Smaller government means more control, for you, over your own life. He believes that states can rule over with there should be same sex marriage and that the Federal government should butt out. So if states vote against it the law stands. But as long as the Federal government keeps growing and dictating to the states what they should do, I guaranteed you that it will be mandated to the states, that same sex marriage be allowed nation wide. Paul is our last chance to follow the constitution and be free. If Paul doesn’t get elected I am preparing for the worst.

I meant less government not less government control.

These are thoughtful comments that deserve a thoughtful reply. I think the key to answering your questions lies in defining when our rightful actions cause harm to others, or diminish their rights in the process of exercising your own. To be sure, conflict will arise when radically opposed social ideas cross paths in the real world. It is unfortunately, government’s job to sort that out. However, I don’t think offending your sensibilities counts as “harm” your rights. We have no right to impose a particular set of moral beliefs on the populace merely by majority vote and the threat of force. Only those moral beliefs that are so widely held as to become immutable may take the form of law. Wherever there is reasonable doubt about whether a person’s actions cause harm to another’s rights, I think we must err on the side of individual freedom, or our freedom will eventually be lost, and that is not something I’m prepared to give up.

P.S. With regard to the education of your children, you have not only the right, but the responsibility to have them taught as you see fit. In that regard, I think the public school system (and the post-secondary schools as well)are failing many of us, who see it as a tool for indoctrination of the young into the culture of the centralized political mechanism. You can remove your children from the schools if they offend your ideals. You can also talk with them about what they learn, and contradict the educators if you feel its appropriate. Educating your children is still your responsibility above anyone else’s, so blaming the schools for not teaching the moral values you personally hold dear doesn’t cut it.

kkflash don’t know if you have or ever had any child in school and have had to deal with them or not. I lived in Louisiana a few years back and my child was in fifth grade. I went to the school to let them know I was going to homeschool my child because I did not think they were up to par to educate my child. The school pricipal sat with her eyes the whole time I spoke to her and then got on her speaker phone and called a Louis Farahkan looking guy with suit, bow tie and all into her office. They both proceded to tell me I would be thrown in jail if she did not show up for the first day of school. And then the Farahkan looking dude told me to sign a piece of paper. I told him I wasn’t signing anything. He told me I had to. But I told him I was leaving and he blocked the doorway. They told me they were calling the cops. I told them to go ahead because I was being held against my will. He let me leave. Needless to say I moved days later to another state. I never raised my voice or got out of line and they tried to intimidate. Not as easy as you think to just pull your child out of the public school system as you think. Especially if you have a child that makes their school look good with their test grades. Some states you don’t have the freedom to raise your child and educate them as you see fit.

Rose, I’m sorry about your bad experience, but I never said it would be easy to take responsibility for your children’s education. I just said you have the constitutional right to do so. As a father of two boys, I often took a hand in their school work, partly to find out what they were being taught, but mostly to assure that they weren’t blindly accepting all they were being fed, but learning to question and think for themselves. We chose a private elementary school to try and lay a foundation we believed in. We didn’t send our boys to the recommended religious education at that school, but passed on our Christian principles directly through Bible study and family discussion. They attended a public high school, and they chose, each deciding for themselves, the same private Christian university. My point in all this is that education is the responsibility of parents, not of the state. Like healthcare, the Constitution does not guaranty anyone the right to an education, and though we, as a society, have chosen to provide a basic public education for all citizens, that choice does not relieve parents of the primary responsibility for teaching their children.

Ron Paul supports DOMA wherever it is enacted but he also would allow in his words,”Protect all voluntary associations:don’t define marriage”. As a President he would accept the laws of the individual states but would not approve of any Constitutional Amendment banning same sex marriage.

Troy,
You need to learn the difference between advocating for gay rights, and observing that the Federal Government has no Power to dictate what the States choose to do in that regard.
Gay rights puts gays above the rest of us with special protections. Butting the Federal Government out of the issue is what Ron Paul wants.

Read this, Troy:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/12/15/ron-paul-brings-sexy-back-and-the-constitution/

If I understood Ron Paul’s position on gay “marriage” (contradiction in terms), as well as drugs, it is that he recognizes these issues as falling under the authority of the individual state, not the federal government. Constitutionally, he has no business taking a stand on them in a presidential campaign.

The feds, under the Constitution, have very little authority except in a very few matters of things like national defense. All matters of governance concerning the people was left to the sovereign states.

I really can’t understand why anybody would want to become legally entangled unless they plan on raising kids. Even then the courts make a mess of peoples’ lives because they’re really all about padding their wallets, so the rulings they pass tend to keep the divorced couples coming back again and again.
There are two things they could do to stop a lot of the turmoil. The most important would be to give alternating custody one year at a time to each parent with no money changing hands. That would mostly end the situation where the custodial parent uses the kids as a weapon, which is most of the time. And it would stop the games where people lie about their salaries, etc. The other would be to rigidly enforce the visitation contract including putting the custodial parent in jail for the weekend or more when they purposely interfere with the other parent’s visitation.
But the lawyers will fight against anything that cuts down on their case load.

Wise words, KK.

KK – Exactly. It was never meant for government to have any authority over marriage at any level. Your are correct in saying that it has always been a religious institution.

The government only inserted itself into the marriage contract for purposes of control, taxation and to lay claim on the children.

Your right about the media directing questions to work for the guy they like. Just like they tried to manipulate the debates to try and focus on Mitt and Newt and try to make them look good. But it did not work. I’m hoping the American people will pay attention to what is being said when the debates go on. If Paul gets the republican nomination be prepared. The media will be asking questions in debates that work against Paul’s favor and that work for Obama’s favor.

All Ron Paul has to do is stick to the truth and the facts about the Constitution like he has for the past thirty years. What’s Obama going to do — call Ron Paul a liar? Or maybe Obama can say he had a law license once so he knows more than Ron Paul — LOL! Or maybe Ron Paul can say he only wants to bring our troops home like Obama promised in 2008.

What could they possibly say that hasn’t been said by the right? Look at Dick Morris — he’s almost foaming at the mouth and screaming obscenities he wants to get rid of Ron Paul so bad!

Both sides are scared to death that Ron Paul may stop their march to Marxism and the take over by the NWO because the “people” will be behind him instead of the lying media. People who cling to their religion and their guns no less!

Yes, they should be very afraid of Ron Paul. Especially if the “useful idiots” wise up and stand behind him.

Dream on, Troy. Obama is as economically ignorant as they come. Without his teleprompter, Obama would be lost. Ron Paul would walk all over him intellectually.
There is the problem of ignorant voters, for sure. As Robert Ringer said “if Paul has one weakness, it’s that he’s intellectually above the average voter’s head, which sometimes makes it difficult to understand him”.
That and the fact that Progressive Leaders promise the voters all kinds of Free goodies (who doesn’t want Free goodies?), but of course they never deliver for two reasons:
1) They can’t. There just isn’t enough wealth to let most of the people have a Free Lunch.
2) They don’t want to. It’s all lip service designed to get the Progressive Leaders re-elected so they can continue to work hand-in-hand with their Favorite Crony Capitalists as they fleece the rest of us. Baa-a-a, Baa-a-a.

Obama speaking without his teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

Only people, with visions of other peoples’ sugar plums dancing in their heads, can think Obama knows what he’s talking about. He can succeed only on the backs of other peoples’ ignorance.

and Greed.

WITH THE VETO PEN EVIE

Ron Paul has already said that he’s too Principled to use the Presidential office to make laws — the domain of Congress. But he can, at the very least, veto Congresses Spending Bills until the voters wake to reality and clean out Congress. And he CAN promote the concepts of Freedom to the citizens who have long been in a Propagandized Stupor.

Thank you, DaveH. Too many folks fail to realize the importance of the presidential veto.

We have enough goofy laws on the books already.

Especially after the disgraceful NDAA crapislation just recently passed by the traitorous house of misreprentatives, (can’t blame the senate very much, as the dems have the majority there) how can people continue to say “there oughta be a law”? Additional laws are the very LAST thing we need.

Let’s rally around the Paul and give him the bully pulpit of leadership, the chance to educate the public, and the power of the veto.

sorry – make that “misrepresentatives”.

Alex Jone’s take:
http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-martial-law-bill-ndaa-now-law/

How did your Representative vote on the NDAA?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll932.xml

How did your Senator vote on NDAA?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00230

I just read where the OathKeepers have said that they will refuse to enforce it.

Plus, they are calling for the recall of all those in Congress who voted for it. (They need to arrest Obama for signing it, too.)

http://dprogram.net/2012/01/03/oath-keepers-launches-effort-to-recall-members-of-congress/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FBcwy+%28Deprogram%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

I believe that was uncalled for.

We need to get together as a people and abolish the 17th Amendment which overrode the Founders’ design of the Constitution. Before the 17th Amendment, Congress was composed of the House of Representatives who were elected by the people and represented the people, and the Senate who were elected by the State Legislators and represented the States. The state legislators were much closer to political issues and thus are better suited at picking the best Senators to represent the States. And they could recall them at any time if they turned on the States in favor of the Federal Government.

I agree with this concept 100%. If one studies the Federalist Papers and the founding documents of this country, all members of the Senate were meant to be appointed by each state legislature. Each state legislature was to be elected by the people in the respective states. The state legislature could recall a senator to protect the states’ interest(s). This was an important check and balance that was removed, and evidence exists the amendment was not ratified in a lawful manner (read http://thelawthatneverwas.com). I have always been a conservative but now I am also a constitutionalist, which means that — like it or not — things need to be done according to the manner in which our Founders intended. A similar problem also exists with lack of due regard to the Tenth Amendment, which reserves powers to the states unless specifically stated as a federal power in the Constitution. I am also pro-life but I understand that this issue is to be reserved to the states, unless an amendment to the Constitution is lawfully ratified. I pray one day a pro-life federal amendment succeeds with sufficient states’ approval.
May all who read this post be enlightened. Here is another website worth reviewing carefully: http://www.usa-the-republic ; this website has information also about the 17th amendment.

Good work, C.Davis.

You’re as ignorant as Whoopie Goldberg.

Vince!!!!!!! EXECLENT

I’LL BET WHOOPIE IS SO “IGNORANT” THAT SHE DOESN’T KNOW IF SHE IS WORTH MORE THAN THE REPORTED $100 MILLION?? OR SO “IGNORANT” THAT SHE CAN’T NAME THE 100 OR MORE MOVIES SHE HAS BEEN IN! IT’S A PITY THAT EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS NOT THAT “IGNORANT”!!!!!!!

No, what’s insane is electing the same political lap dogs to military-industrial complex time after time and expecting different results.

RON PAUL 2012!

Right on, KK.

Mark -

I recall Ron Paul saying he recognized Israel’s right to ddefend itself as a sovereign nation. Is there something else that Paul has said or done that I missed?

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Socialism actually encourages population growth by forcing people, who only bite off as much as they can pay for, to pay for the mistakes of those who bite off more than they can pay for.
So, if you want to decrease the population, Eddie, Freedom is the best solution. As it is for most problems.

It’s well known that people who are free and prosperous have fewer children.

But not in immigration.

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Which liberties do you plan to fight for? There are not many left are there?

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I think he would suggest that if we were not so belligerent in the past, 9/11′s would not happen.

>>He thinks we, Americans and our foreign policies are to be blamed,>>

He certainly seems to believe that our foreign policies played a role in helping to cause events such as 9/11. With intrusions such as US support for the Shah of Iran he seems to have a point would you not agree? Do you think it wise for us to be so supportive of the Saud family in Saudi Arabia?

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What is a Marxist Islamo-facism? I am not familiar with that form of government.

You have got to be kidding, right? I guess you would rather WASTE more lives in forcing our will on others. Just think about all those WASTED lives – kids who thought they were fighting for their country but who fought for the few who pull the strings. War mongering has no place in the world.

It must be great to be free, haven’t been unafraid of our government for many years, the only freedom I feel, is the freedom to go to work and pay taxes, sit down and shut up your betters will run the world, freedom for all or freedom for none.

LT…actually laurie, I think they would rather we didn’t work, give up everything that we HAVE worked for, and just do as they say…

“don’t go down without one helluva fight.”

The Fabulous Furry Freakshow known as progressivism is rearing its misinformed head.Fear and Loathing in the Fox Newsroom.Brought on by the hallucinatory idea that fixing our financial woes mean that their slice of pie will be taken from them and eaten by those who actually deserve a slice of pie.The welfare state is in disrepair.Some guy named Newt claims to have dealt with the problem when he had a republican congress.The conditions have not changed for the better.
As an act of charity,I once gave a lady friend with a drinking issue a ride to the Department of Human assistence,Never was a sadder sight than watching those folks stand in line for hours for a scrap of welfare.Knowing full well from the look of the faces in line that they are desperate,I watched as women walked by in the fashion of prostitutes,hoping I would ask them for a turn.
Meanwhile where there were no children present,drugs were exchanged as people drove by in fancy automobiles.Am I saying that everyone who needs assistence is pushing drugs?Not hardly.I truly feel for those struggling to eat their next meal.But it is not the condition I like to see my nation in.I would rather someone attempt to fix it.
But those who argue against Ron Paul havent got a leg to stand upon.
Only by challenging the way politics are done can one hope and change the system.Is it any wonder that his detractors hate him?
These folks spitting out poison-the-well innuendo,have a lot to learn,and even more to lose.That is why they are here taking shots at those of us who have the innate capability of seeing through the smokescreen,in a desperate attempt to dissuade us from doing the right thing.It is their job,which is sad.How can you work for a hidden agenda and not realize that the hiding of it reveals its very nature?Just ask a progressive.Most of them seem gleefully unaware of the black science being used on them.
They see the structure of the machine and decide to worship it.
It was made for their adoration.They give it willingly having no other source to turn to.The world will be a better place,they think.
The enlisting in the”Worlder Navy”(I call it that because it floats over the seas of people,looking like a lifepreserver)seems like the only safe thing to do.
Flirting with disaster every day.
The gray area of not caring if the machine seems to be functioning correctly.Enjoying the idea of prostituting their childrens children for a better life right now.
Roll out the fold full of credit cards and spend!
Throw your monopoly money around like a drunken sailor.
That is their wisdom.That is their God.
Good luck with that,
Cheers!
-CC.

There has never been a government able to support so many people needing assistance. The government is not a creator of wealth; but the one who takes it away from those who create it. The solution lies with the individual, the solution is to break the cultural chain. Man has to stand up and fight for his survival. Why do I have to support other people? Just tell me why? Out of a million dollars, we have to pay more than 400,000.00 in taxes, WHY???? To give to Solyndra, or better yet, for Nancy Pelosi’s back home weekly trips costing us about that? Wake the crap up and stand by you.

Hahaha Nothing you said made any sense. The one guy who has been fighting for our liberties for 30 years and has the publicly available voting record to prove it, is now suddenly *against* liberty?
Can you please back up ANY of the assertions you made with a link showing some facts?
Didn’t think so…

Bob in Boston:
What has Representative Paul accomplished legislatively in his years of service, apart from being reelected by his TX Cong. District?
Now, if it came down to Paul vs. Obama, only those two choices,then Paul would have to be my choice. Under no other circumstances, though.

Aniko, your every word drips with unfeigned ignorance. It’s ok to not know what you’re talking about; it’s NOT ok to go vomiting it all over everyone else.

Ron Paul has a 30+ year track record of following the Constitution. Every other candidate has a stellar track record of big spending, warmongering, big government, or other unconstitutional legislation or support.

Even Ronald Reagan applauded Dr. Paul for being one of the foremost proponents of a strong national DEFENSE. You don’t DEFEND in Iraq, since Iraq never attacked us. You don’t DEFEND in Afghanistan, since the Taliban and Osama bin Laden have been taken care of (OBL is dead, the Taliban is a shell of what it was). You don’t DEFEND in Libya, Tunisia, Somalia, Iran, or anywhere else in the world. You DEFEND HERE, in the UNITED STATES.

You need to ditch your Neoconservative Dictionary and learn some logical, intelligent English.

Ron Paul believes in letting every American fight for THEIR OWN liberties instead of for those of every socialist democracy on earth. He’ll preserve the gun rights of private citizens like myself, so we can protect ourselves. If you don’t think Paul supporters have any cajones, just try to enter my house uninvited, and you’ll find out how big cajones can get.

Who is fighting for my Liberty, Aniko? Certainly not you. Nor the soldiers overseas who are pissing off the fanatical Islamics. Get it straight, Aniko, they are fighting for Crony Capitalists to become richer and for Politicians to become more powerful, that is all. Freedom isn’t cheap, and Freedom-takers like yourself prove that.
Your Hitler comparison to Ron Paul just makes you laughable.
And unlike your Propagandized self, Aniko, Ron Paul is brave enough to stand tall against the machine of established power-hungry Politicians. I have known no braver man than Ron Paul.

Hear Hear!

“Ron Paul is brave enough to stand tall against the machine of established power-hungry Politicians. I have known no braver man than Ron Paul.”

Hear Hear!

I second that.

This is what happens to soldiers who lose their enthusiasm for the US Imperialism:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-big-screen-documentary-exposes-pat-tillman-cover-up.html

The question is not can Ron Paul Win? But will they let him win? The central banker’s financial train with the Federal Reserve Bank as its engine is what is financing the establishment of the New World Order or ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. If you yank out the Federal Reserve Bank most of the central banks throughout rest of the world would fall like dominoes. It has taken almost 300 years of instigating wars, financial turmoil and destroying national sovereignty, and deliberately killing and assassinating millions, to get the central bankers to the threshold of victory. There is no way they will let Ron Paul win but if they take him out lets at least go out with our boots on.

Clarence, I believe you are right. And I also think Ron Paul is our best choice but why does he not talk about the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group who are supporting many canidates. He needs to talk about the New World Order and One World Gov.

Because, Airdale, he is smart enough NOT to open that can of worms. You can see by comments on this board that many (if not most) of the citizens of this country have been heavily Propagandized to believe such Ignorant concepts such as War is Peace, or that people have a right to ride on the shoulders of unwilling others. Imagine trying to convince people of a worldwide conspiracy by the PTBs?
Ron Paul doesn’t need to talk about NWO or the CFR, because his ideas stand alone in Principle, whether there are Conspiracies or not. It’s just a plain fact of life that people look out for themselves first, and Leaders are just people. They are naturally inclined to feather their own nests at the expense of the rest of us. There are very few Principled Politicians like Ron Paul. It’s up to the rest of us to acquire those same Principles and boot those Politicians out of office who don’t share them, whether they are engaged in Conspiracies or just acting alone.

Karolyn, I don’t know what you were trying to say, but take a look at DSA (Democratic Socialist of America). Even that list is not accurate because people like Pelosi, Reid, etc are not listed. These people are in our government!

Differing views? I don’t think you have looked at NDAA. obama is now in charge of who can be killed on our home soil.

Bottom line is there are always two sides to a story; and since this is a free country, everybody has the right to believe what they want and live their lives in the manner they wish without fearing deportation because their views and beliefs are not in line with someone else’s – no matter what those views and beliefs are.

You’re nearly right… This WAS a free country once, but our freedom has been insidiously, and gradually usurped by an overblown, power-hungry political elite who think they know what’s best for everyone. Truly, we the people need to take our country back from the government and Ron Paul is the guy to do it.

This is a FREE country? THAT IS A LAUGH. We are the most enslaved country on earth.
NONE ARE MORE HOPELESSLY ENSLAVED AS THOSE WHO FALSELY BELIEVE THEY ARE FREE…

But, Karolyn, they don’t have a “right” to take the property (including money) or lives of other people.

A little bit of Fascism is a good thing It fixed the economy of Germany in the 30′s

Jimmy … just like there can never be utopia on earth, there can never be just “a little fascism”.

The term Fascism is derived from Mussolini’s symbolic use of Fasciti which was an ancient Latin weapon. Fasces were axes – a metal blade whose handle was formed by bundling and tying sticks together. Fasces were carried by Roman Lichtors who acted like “sergeant of the guard” in the Forum during public debate, trials, and such so as to maintain order and protect public officials. Mussolini used this image for two reasons: he conjured nationalism by reminding Italians of the greatness of ancient Rome (in order to evoke emotional response especially from Italian collectivists), and he intended the state to become THE center of the universe — by their motto — everything within the state and nothing without.

A little fascism never stops becoming “big fascism” because the entire philosophy is based on blind ambition and Nietsche’s concept of the “will to power”.

If you reflect on this I think you will realize fascism is never a good idea, not even in the short term. Your liberties can be seized under such a system just as easily as your neighbors. You will wake up one day to find yourself a vassal of the state with little or no personal freedom.

Well said Sol.

And went on to totally destroyed along with the rest of Europe. You have never lived under a tyrannical power, that’s why you think that way.

Oh come on,cam – you just PRINT MORE MONEY!! It’s always worked. For 98 years,anyway. Can’t believe you missed that.

Steve,

You’re not going to persuade me through sarcasm.

Well said. I was probably wrong in referring to his foreign policy as isolationism.

And you’re right… we have no money.

But there is such a thing as right and wrong. Our leadership has been misguided in this for a long time.

This world is a mess! On the one hand some hot spots need intervention. On the other hand there’s no discernment as to what and when it’s appropriate.

I hate to say it but people DO need to be free. Yet, historically, a lot of our interventions have not really helped.

Vietnam was a first rate fiasco.

Iraq, I think history will show, was a fiasco because although the people needed freedom they aren’t amenable to it. Furthermore, my take on it is that we’ve just handed it over to Iran.

Korea, as horrific as that war is (it’s still ongoing) it has freed the South such that the contrast in lifestyles of the people is obvious.

re: N. Korea, however, People, don’t know what they’re missing if they’ve never seen what they’re missing. So they’re eternally loyal to the government.

I do like what Paul said… “If we’re forced into a conflict, let Congress vote on it. Let’s win it and then let’s get out”.

Personally, we haven’t intervened where I think we should have… Rwanda, Darfur.

I would think that we certainly ought to encourage freedom of thought world wide… little by little, inch by inch.

I see nothing of this in Dr. Paul’s vision.

Thus far, all of the candidates are talking about “getting out of the quagmire” not about a “positive vision for the future”.

Rwanda and Darfur, along wih any other African nations that are starving would not be profitable. That’s why the US doesn’t interfere.

Very astute observation, K.

Will, et al, I remember well, the Soviet navy ships rusting in port. I also know that the tactic of bankrupting a nation into defenselessness has been used in the past. You very well could be right concerning our ability (or inability) to defend ourselves. I’ve heard Paul talk, however, and his attitude towards Israel remains, nevertheless, naiive.

I still have a hope (‘though not much of one) that we could more selectively get ourselves out of this situation. i.e. Why are we giving foreign aid to the Chinese… our lender? Why are we subsidizing the UN? Why are we giving foreign aid for the upkeep of mosques in Pakistan and elsewhere? Why are we regulating private businesses to death? Why are we spending bazilions of dollars on pork?

If we were to get rid of all of this crap, and increase our tax base, we may be able to get this ship of state turned around. But in the meantime, it seems to me that Dr. Paul has a world out there that he’s really not willing to believe exists.

Benyomin, if you have listened and read up on Paul, you could see that he is most probably the only candidate that won’t allow this country to continue to spiral into full on socialism. Your take on Paul as an isolationist is downright MSM garbage, heresay, propaganda.

Ron Paul 2012

“I’ve heard Paul talk, however, and his attitude towards Israel remains, nevertheless, naiive.”

Well, the leading officials from Israel had just recently stated that they do not need American troops to take care of them. They can take care of themselves. So, how is his attitude naïve? It is naïve to think Israel can’t defend themselves without our help.

Paul was quoted as saying that 9/11 happened because of U.S. interventionism.

The U.S. intervened back in 1948 when it pushed for and then voted for Israeli statehood.

I’m sorry, but Dr. Paul is wrong on this issue. Islam fundamentally intends to dominate the world.

We have two problems… fiscal and spiritual.

Dr. Paul’s eye is on the fiscal threat but his eye is not on the spiritual threat.

I’ll agree with Dr. Paul that the federal govt. should interfere as little as possible with personal lives, but it ought not to be promoting (as is the case with our classrooms for example)aberrant behaviors or belief systems either. And a VERY big part of our fiscal problem is GREED, from both the corporate world, political world and personal world.

What this country needs most of all is repentance and that is going to have to come from ourselves… not from Dr. Paul.

I wanted to add this to my last post as well. Part of the “spiritual” deficiency in this country manifests itself in not only the greed to which I alluded in the other post, but also a lack of understanding or appreciation for this threat which is called Islam.

Mark,
You set a trap and I simply couldn’t resist. Your quote from Luke 19 is far far more than a “few” sentences later than the quote that you gave from Luke 6. (In fact it’s over half of the book away). The context of each of the quotes is far different.

The first quote is from a sermon which Jesus is giving where He describes the conduct which He desires from those who are “citizens” as it were, of the kingdom of God.

The second, more violent quote to which you refer, is from a parable which He is telling to His disciples. It marks the conclusion or explanation of that parable. The parable draws a comparison between an issue of everyday life (employment) and citizenship in the kingdom of God. Jesus is saying that everyone has gifts, talents, faith, in essence, resources, that can be used for the sake of furthering the kingdom of God. In God’s economy one’s rewards after life (so to speak) are a function of how and to what extent those resources are used. In that context, the last verse that you quoted distinguishes the unfaithful servant who produced nothing from the Master from the one who chose never to submit to the Master in the first place. The latter meets destruction. In light of the fact that this is a parable, absolutely no onus is placed on the so called “believer” to see to the destruction of the infidel or heretic or whatever. It merely alludes to the eternal destruction that comes from the one who chooses to reject Jesus.

I don’t know too much about Thomas Payne’s philosophy, but I do know that a number of the signers of the Declaration of Independence founded the American Bible Society. Furthermore, they published the primary English text books in the new country… the McGuffy Reader which was replete with quotes from the Bible.

Furthermore, if you were to look down upon the top of the Washington Monument you would see the inscription (intended initially only to have been seen by God) which, in Latin, reads “To the Glory of God”.

Also, our Constitution was built upon a fundamental “Christian” principal… that all men can be, by some means, corrupted. Hence, it set in place checks and balances to help prevent that.

One of the founding fathers was also quoted as saying (I paraphrase) “The constitution will only maintain an orderly society as long as its citizens are personally constrained by morality and “religion”>

My way of thinking, I believe would be more like that of Benjamin Franklin who came to later acknowledged that the birth of this nation (which has, at least temporarily, turned out to be arguably the freest nation in the history of the world) was a miracle of God.

I’m not an economist. I’m skeptical about Paul ‘though I respect his stick-to-it-iv-ness and his passion.

But I think that I know quite enough about Islam as a world view. And allow me to make the distinction, if you will, between Muslims and Islam. The former is people. They have a lot in common with the rest of us.

the latter is an ideology.

lest I state the obvious.

My conservative sister made those same points expressed by Linda, based on a article she emailed me written by Star Parker. Star went on about how dangerous Ron Paul is.

It really serves to unmask these “conservative” mouthpieces. I always liked Star, but now I see that she is just another politcal pundit.

People like Parker are hurting the cause of those fighting to return America to its foundations. We need to work hard to counter this assault from the Right, because that is the weakness in the link.

It just means that we have to work harder to expose the two-party lie and spread the truth.

Agreed.

Linda get’s 3 strikes and your out on that one.

Ron Paul’s “isolation” view is to engage in trade and commerce with other countries instead of waging embargoes and wars to get what we want. This Wikipedia explains his view on Foreign Policy (look under Foreign Policy heading). In an interview with Lou Dobbs he explains his position on Free Trade here:

Sorry, I got messed up with the HTML tags. The Lou Dobbs interview is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prtR-h8oKqU .

Right on Bob

Dick Morris will flip flop to wherever and to whomever he thinks will benefit him the most. He is a “has been” that never was.

Amen!

Amen!

Yes, Imagine us “kooky” Libertarians expecting the Politicians and Bureaucrats to behave in a moral and lawful way like the rest of us.

Yepper, even though I don’t consider myself to be a libertarian if I ever decided to join any political party it would most certainly be the Libertarian Party. The only kooks are the ones that keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
It’s called “REALITY” folks…get some, it’s good for the soul…

Ron Paul 2012

You got that right ! However we need to be killing the ones creeping north that are not in uniform to .

Yeah, right, jimmy, just kill ‘em all! Where does all this blood lust come from? Is it a man thing? Just macho, bravado, big man stuff!

No it’s Love of my race . The white race is being killed off by race mixing being pushed by the zionest , read Pat Buchanan’s new book .

jimmy – There is no such thing as race. We are all the same. There is a traveling exhibit about that, which was just in Charlotte. I wouldn’t read Pat Buchanan’s book if you bought it for me.

Buchanan is only right about 50% of the time and you two Jimmy have alot in common with the other 50%. Your both babbling buffoons.

Okay, Karolyn, your bigotry is showing.

Dave, What the hell is that supposed to mean?

karolyn – While I don’t think we should kill them all, we do need to stop them from coming, and send a good many of them back.

Some of them may be looking for a better life (but then, Americans are losing their way of life), but a large number of them have made no bones about coming here to conquer. They’ve also been vocal about their intent to kill white America.

You libs are so selective in your outrage.

Why is being against killing anyone in world conflicts being selective Kate? Karolyn wasn’t taking sides and doesn’t want anyone to suffer because of false wars.

eddie – Kate just has to find something to criticize in whatever I post.

Are you really that oblivious, Karolyn?
Karolyn says “Where does all this blood lust come from? Is it a man thing?”

Hit a nerve, Karolyn?

I don’t respond to your posts any more often than you respond to mine. I got that nasty jab from a couple of days ago.

Actually, I rarely read your posts anymore.

Get over yourself.

Why would you? It’s much easier to have your magic mirror telling you you’re the fairest of them all.

Along with your rationality, you have lost your credibility.

Bob, I, too, have heard some very unknid words spoken about Mr. Paul but it was not by the media. It was on live television but it was spoken by the people(REPUBLICANS) of the same party Mr. Paul CHOSE to seek the presidency. It seems the Republicans and the Libertarians have lost their claim that the “lame stream media” “unfairly” accuses them of things when they, the Republican candidates, accuse each other of the SAME things that appeared in that “awful old lame stream media.” AND THE REPUBICAN AUDIENCE CHEERED THEM WHEN THEY DID IT!!!!!!!!!! A DOUBLE STANDARD??????????????

Unfortunately, NC, the “double standard” is running amok in our Society of Criminals:
http://mises.org/daily/4125

The good thing is that it is showing how the Republicans are just as desperate to keep the status quo as are the democrats. They are terrified of Ron Paul, because they are terrified of true conservative principles.

We can’t keep doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results.

It’s time for real change…for the better, this time. Let’s show some guts on our part…that would be a nice change.

Just today Rob Paul was called “delusional” Santorum was called a “liberal” and Romney was called a “Liar”

It is time for the “lame stream media” to quit this libelous attack on the Republican candidates

ACTUALLY IT WAS SANTORUM CALLING PAUL “DELUSIONAL” IT WAS PAUL CALLING SANTORUM A “LIBERAL” AND NEWT CALLING ROMNY A “LIAR”

CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ARE SUCH WHINERS!! THEY SAY WHAT WE SEE IN EACH OTHER THE MEDIA HAS NO BUSINESS SEEING ALSO” HUH???????????

I too believe Ron Paul’s son has a good chance to be President in the future.

Joe, read this please:
http://mises.org/books/prohibition.pdf

“i will admit his legalization of drugs can be a little too much for everyone to swallow without knowing what the outcome can be”

The interesting part is, if people would actually listen to what he is saying… he doesn’t necessarily promote “legalization” as much as he does the fact that the Central Government should not illegalize it. He concedes that a State certainly has a right to regulate or prohibit drugs of all kinds, but it shouldn’t be federal government telling the nation what to do in such regard. The problem is when a state legalizes a drug, such as marijuana for medical reason, the federal government is coming in to override the state, and that is the biggest problem today.

TML – Yes, his opponents are twisting his Constitutional stance on state sovereignty to make him appear to promote or oppose issues he does not.

If people would look deeper, they would see that his position on the issues is exactly what it should be. Whether he is personally for or against any single issue is less relevant than who or what he sees as having authority over said issues.

kATE, PLEASE DON’T CONFUSE DEMOCRATS WITH THE REPUBLICANS WHO “FEAR” RON PAUL. I PROMISE YOU THAT WE DON’T FEAR HIM GETTTING THE NOMINATION! WE PRAY FOR HIM NIGHTLY TO WIN THE NOMINATION OR TO ENTER THE RACE FOR ANY PARTY.
EVEN RASMUSSEN, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE POLL IN THE COUNTRY EXCEPT A FAUX NOISE “CALL IN POLL”, HAS HIM 8 POINTS BEHIND PRESIDENT OBAMA! BRING HIM ON! WE CAN HARDLY WAIT! IT WOULD BE CHRISTMAS IN NOVEMBER!!

NC What’s your point?

Kate8, the top of his/her head?

NC– 8 points sure isn’t very much. Double digits would be better. November 2012 may be a close race.

When it comes to the war on drugs we have become an unworkable police state. Where folks are busted sitting in their car smoking a joint,given a felony record,and harassed until they die by the court system and employment offices. Yet the authorities claim they are winning the War on Drugs by jailing pot users.

It is sad to think of the wasted lives of people doing time for smoking weed. Especially in 3 strike states where they can be serving life.

Ron Paul in 2012!

I agree Tall Ted that dick morris’s “sexual fetishes,his loose approach to ethics and the fact that he is almost always wrong in his predistions” makes him a PERFECT fit at fox news.

ooohhhh that sounds scary!

Maybe you should go hide under your bed.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
–Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Mark Are – Wow. You nailed that one.

That point needs to be well-taken. Will America continue to recoil in a cowering blob of jelly, or will we start acting like Americans?

We have the right to stand up to all of these Constitutional oversteps, no matter what it takes. But will we?

BTW, here’s just another example of what we’re up against. Obama is making good on his promise to do an end-run around the 2nd Amendment.

http://www.2ndamendmenttv.com/videos/attacks-on-our-rights/another-sledgehammer-prosecutionof-a-law-abiding-citizen.html

In my last book I quote the Harvard graduate Japanese Admiral who fought us in WWII who said he would never attack the USA proper because under every blade of grass would be a gun. I always liked his wisdom in that.

Since there are several Republican/Conservatives embedded in the NWO club your bringing up socialism is too one sided.

eddie – Since the Republican Party has been thoroughly infiltrated, hijacked and co-opted by Leftists, what’s your point?

A Socialist by any other name…

If Iran did build a nuke and used it it would be on israel because there rockets cant reach the USA ! And if they did nuke the zionist just think of the money well be saving buy not having to pay israel all the foreign aid we give them .

Jimmy the dim-wit. Still haven’t learned how to spell. All the aide we give to Israel comes right back to us. Trying looking up the facts before you run your mouth.

Bogusbob…..obviously he doesn’t understand that a Nuke can be delivered in numerous ways other than on the end of a missile.

Naive would be an understatement.

Oh? The billions of dollars of foreign aid to Israel come back to the United States?? How so??? Maybe in the form of special interest groups in Washington like AIPAC and in the weapons we sell to them so that they can intimidate their neighbors. End all foreign aid to other nations, including our “gallant ally” Israel. Check out the history of Israel and how they betrayed the United States numerous times by giving American military secrets to countries like the former U.S.S.R. and how they attacked the intelligence ship U.S.S. Liberty in 1967 while it was in international waters?? Have any doubts of that?? Check out the Navy veterans own website from people that were on that ship that fateful day – http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/ and see for yourself!!! I don’t know about you, but I believe the word of the people actually on the ship and were there that day to witness the attack than I believe some bureaucrat over in Washington telling me politically correct fairy tales.

The zionist pigs have been sucking the life blood out of this country since the early 50′s and it really got bad when LBJ got to be president

Pertineht handle. Yeah, in 1963 JFK”s DOJ demanded that Israeli lobbyists register as foreign entities which they had refused to due because then it would be illegal for them to make “campaign contributions” to American politicians. RFK was moving forward with legal action when his brother’s head was blown off. Ever since then there has been no further mention of such legal action. So we must concede that at least a portion of American aid comes back here. Legitimately? Hardly.

Hey Bogus, you should learn the difference between “aide” and “aid”. It might help when endeavoring to correct someone else’s English.

Iran is selling medium range rockets to Venezuala right now and setting up Hezbolah training camps there as well. If they develop the technology for putting a nuclear device on one of these rockets, how long before it is launched from Venezuala or Cuba at the U.S.?

And the US has created the destabilization and the numerous enemies that allow such a threat, Capitalist.
What else? Do you think you could beat on your neighbors with no consequences?

CAPITALIST YOU SEEM TO HAVE A FEAR THAT AN IRANIAN ROCKET WILL BE FIRED AT THE US FROM CUBA! FEAR NOT! WE HAVE A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND LIBERAL DEMOCRATS DO NOT ALLOW ROCKETS TO BE FIRED AT US FROM CUBA! SEE JFK AND THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS!

Thinking outside the box….. (by box I mean the TV and all the propaganda it feeds us on a daily basis. Yes propaganda….. Remember the WMD excuse for invading Iraq, and all the mainstream media marching in unquestioning lock-step?) Maybe Iran really is trying to make a nuke. Or maybe…. Just maybe this another “WMD” excuse??? I mean plenty of other countries have nukes so why is Iran so “special” that we have to go attack them? OK, so let’s assume it’s true. Iran really is building a nuke. Do you really think Iran would be so stupid and suicidal as to take that ONE nuke and lob it at the US when they know they are outnumbered by tens of thousands to ONE? WHY? I can think of two other reasons why Iran is so “special”. 1; The military industrial complex needs constant war to justify it’s existence and budget and profit. 2; OIL…. And the control of the strait of Hormuz.

the biggest supporter of terrorism in the world is iran and he all you can say is they can’t reach us with a missile? so you are also in favor of israel getting wiped as well? your sounding a lot like obama now.

No, the biggest supporter of terrorism is the United States. Only you’re on their side, so it’s rah, rah, rah.

Jimmy.
Iran would never use a rocket. Just a 20 foot shipping container drop shipped from Germany with your address on it. Rockets will never do it, just a steel box. Simple, even I could arrange the box tomorrow and I’m nobody.

Today, Jan. 3rd, Iran warned the USA not to return any aircraft carriers to Persian Gulf waters.
The shortsightedness of some would-be military tacticians commenting here is unbelieveable! Iran is far from having an ICBM that would reach the USA from Iran, that’s obvious.
It could fire its Chinese missiles at any one of our ships in the Gulf. Missiles could be launched from improvised platforms constructed on Iranian merchant ships. On any given day, there are 25000 merchant ships, under all flags, plying the sea lanes, much of it headed our way.

Now your talking what i know i own a small trucking co , And i am on the docks all the time . all the ports have scanners looking for radioactive materials , my brother went to get a stress test and they put some kind of radioactive crap in him the next day he went to the docks and when he was leaving set off the scanners from inside the cab of the tractor with the windows up , let me tell you all hell broke lose the port was put on lock down and he Wes treated like he was the one that killed Jesus , so little chance of that happening .

Jimmy:
Your comment was stated exactly how the original Jimmy the Greek would have stated it.
He was a master at putting his foot in his mouth and you carry on his ignorance.

Jimmy the Greek says: “If Iran did build a nuke and used it it would be on israel because there rockets cant reach the USA!

Dream on Jimmy! Iran has been testing missiles from ships in the Caspian Sea and practicing detonations in the the upper atmosphere. This is confirmed and could be a practice run for sending a freighter off one of our coasts to shoot a nuke tipped missile over the central U.S. Such an event could cause a massive EMP event that could cripple our electrical grid system, disable most vehicles and electronics, cause massive social upheaval and ultimately could cause the death of over 150 million Americans. Get your head out of the sand or other orifice and wake up to the reality that Iran is a headed by a religious madman zealot, who welcomes world chaos to bring forth the return of the 12th Mahdi. Ignore him at your peril and that of everyone you know and hold dear.

So what ! none of us are going to live forever .

Then we well realy have fun ! Mad Max comes to mind LOL

And 5 minutes later there wouldn’t be enough of Iran left to put in a teaspoon.

@Les
And 5 minutes after that China and Russia Nuke us. Where does it stop? Does it stop?

You cant negotiate with phsycho terrorists as Ron Paul says he will do. The Bible states that those who condemn Israel will be condemned, Those that bless Israel will be blessed. Cut our military in half increasing our unemployment destroying whats left of the economy and leaving us wide open to attacks by Russia and China or any other nutcase dictator in the world. No thanks I will stick with Bachmann or Newt.Real conservatives!!!!!!!!!!!

The nation state of Israel is a creation of the UN financed by the US, the United Kingdom and the Rothschild banks. The Bible also says (paraphrasing) “beware of those that call themselves Jews and are not, they are the seeds of Satan”.

The nation state of Israel is a creation of the UN financed by the US, the United Kingdom and the Rothschild banks. The Bible also says (paraphrasing) “beware of those that call themselves Jews and are not, they are the seeds of Satan”.
Ahmadinejad has been deliberately misquoted many times in the MSN. Do a search and read Ahmadinejad’s open letter to President Bush, definitely not the rantings of a war crazed madman.

Gene,
If your blood-lust drives you to attack people who have not attacked us, then do it with your own money and life. Leave the rest of us out of it.

Good choice…. Newt abandoned his sick wife and took millions of dollars from Fannie and Freddie he sounds perfect for leadership. Don’t know much about Michele so I’ll reserve comment.

In a speech in San Francisco, top Gen. Wesley Clark recounted a memo drafted by former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s office in the wake of 9-11 that was brought to his attention by a top Pentagon official. The neo-con’s plot, he was told, was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years—we’re going to start with Iraq and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Iran.” Clark said the neo-cons “wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, and make it under our control.” This plan was already established in 1991 by Defense official Paul Wolfowitz.
How would you react if this happened to you and you had only limited resources to defend yourself??? Our actions have opened the door for the radical element of the Muslims to come to the forefront in their defense and try and unite them into a caliphate. Had we stayed clear from the beginning they would content themselves in inter-tribal rivalry as they have done for a thousand years.

Right you are! So, why don’t we just leave them alone and let them blow themselves up.

Right on that !

Clarence’s comment could prove again that it was the Republicans who deliberately wanted to destabilize the Middle East by keeping us in continuous war and not Obama. Obama was sucker punched on that one and only following his previous handlers.

really so now your saying obama is working for the republicans? no wonder our country is in trouble with morons like you. obama takes his marching orders from soros and the muslim brotherhood. they are the ones obama has helped to get rid of israel. you need to do a little homework on obama’s past. professor Khalidi of columbia university is a close personal friend of obama and wrote speeches for armandinajad of iran and invited the sicko to speak at columbia. valerie jarrett was born in iran. that professor was a member of the PLO when they were a terrorist group. obama did nothing to help the real democratic uprising in iran because they were not backed by the muslim brotherhood. obama tells israel to go back to 1969 borders which would be suicide. all of these thing were against what the republicans wanted. is the 47 in your name your I.Q.?

Clarence’s comment “proves” nothing Eddie. It may or may not be true, but it “proves” nothing.

Repocrat, democan, come on,we all know that the international banksters absolutely control both wings of the dirty bird. But as long as they can keep naive people cheering for their chosen team they don’t have to worry about people looking at who they really are and the crimes they are committing perpetually.Accountability? Ron Paul 2012.

@ 1minuteman Soros Is a dam zionist jew not a muslim the orders are from Jerusalem that obama is marching to just like bush, clinton , the old bush , and all the rest way back to LBJ .

So Minuteman is one (1) your IQ? That would be the 1967 border! As far as helping “uprisings”or discontent in other countries that usually means war which you are obviously in favor of. So should we be involved in the uprising in Syria and invade them also? Why help one and not the other? Why not just let them handle their own internal problems themselves and butt out?

That was Ron Paul’s point exactly even though Muslims had attacked us many times before 9/11. It goes all the way back to when England gave the Jews the area that they call their homeland of Israel after W.W.II. America pushed the U.N. to recognize the State of Israel and American Jews backed the fight financially.

Jews and Muslims have been fighting for centuries so when we backed Israel we became an enemy to the Muslim religious fanatics. Most people should already know that one of Islam’s most sacred sites, the Dome of the Rock, sits right on top of one of the Jews most sacred sites — their original Temple. Of course they are going to fight over who has control of this area.

We stepped into the middle of a religious war that won’t be solved or won until Jesus returns.

Since Jews are taught that Jesus was NOT the Messiah, I sometimes wonder why we are involved in their religious war? They are far better armed (by us) than any other country in the Mideast. They could wipe most of the other countries off the map without our help.

Dick Morris is Jewish and maybe he is afraid that if Ron Paul became President he wouldn’t let the U.S. fight Israel’s battles for them anymore or keep giving them billions in foreign aid and equipment?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. We can’t afford to be the policemen of the world anymore. In fact, our Constitution says that we should mind our own business and stay OUT of foreign entanglements. So Ron Paul is right about our foreign affairs!

Great rebuttal Sunshine49!

Just a little background info on the comment that Britain gave the Jews Palestine.

The Zionists in London sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis (Jewish), saying “Go to work on President Wilson. We’re getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” That’s how the United States got into the war.

There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into (we were suckered into) that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let’s have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” They didn’t know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn’t know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain’s promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war.

The other side of that same coin was that the Jewish World Congress and Jewish international bankers called for and suceeded in getting a boycott (like sanctions on Iran today) on Germany. This crippled Germany’s ability to continue the war and resulted in forcing them to surrender at Versailles. This boycott was supported by German Jews as well and resulted in Hitler’s famous comment “the stab in the back”, referring to the betrayal of Germany by German Jews. Jews in Germany and throughtout Europe paid a heavy price for this “stab”.

The first part of this statement is not exactly correct. The true Jews (Sephardic) and Muslims had lived in relative peace throughout the Muslim territories.

Having visited El Escorial (a few miles outside Madrid), the massive palace/church/monestary complex built by Phillip II, I noticed a huge mural depicting a massive battlefield. Christian armies confronting Muslim with the crescent and Jewish soldiers with the Star of David.

Throughout Spain and elsewhere in the Muslim world, Muslims and Jews lived in relative peace. In Spain, many Muslim controlled major cities had Jewish quarters and Synogogues. Secular Turkey was founded by the Crypto-Jew Ataturk.

The real divergence between Muslims and Jews has taken place just quite recently, as a result of the Palestine issue. The Arabs view the European Jews as invaders who don’t belong in the Middle East. They recognize that they are not racially or genetically Jewish, being that they are of Ashkanazi bloodlines, unlike the true racial Jews, the Sephardic Jews, who lived peacefully with them throughout the centuries in the Muslim lands.

Well sead Sunshine !

Walt says Walt you know your history well !

SUNSHINE, I AM A DEMOCRAT AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF JEWISH FRIENDS, ONE OF WHOM IS MY ATTORNEY, THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED THESE VERY TOPICS WITH. I WAS ALWAYS BOTHER THAT THEY TOOK OUR MONEY AND WEAPONS AND CONTINUED TO SPY ON US.THAT THEY WERE THE FIRST MODERN TERRORIST IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND PLAYED THE TERRORIST CARD AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS TO GAIN SUPPORT IN THIS COUNTRY! THAT ONE OF THE MOST MISTREATED GROUPS IN ISREAL WERE JEW WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS.THAT THEY RAN PALESTINIANS FROM LAND THEY HAD LIVED ON FOR CENTURIES AND GAVE IT TO PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO HAD LVED IN ISRAEL FOR 3 WEEKS. MY JEWISH FRIEND WERE IN AGREEMENT ON SOME OF THESE MATTERS. MY JEWISH ATTORNEY’S FAVORITE JOKE WAS THAT THE ISRAELIE GOVERNMENT OFFERED TO FIGHT THE VIETNAM WAR FOR THE US FOR THE UNIVERSAL JEWISH PRICE OF “COST PLUS 10%). WHILE PEACE IN THE REGION WOULD BE DIFFICULT IT IS POSSIBLE OR ISRAEL AND EGYPT WOULD STILL BE AT WAR.EVERY LITLE BIT HELPS IF IT LIMITS THE DYING.

Clarence:

Does it seem odd to you that Wesley Clark waited this long to divulge what Rumsfeld allegedly stated?
Clark is a political opportunist, pure and simple.It is unfortunate that a man who was a General officer would prostitute himself to a political party, especially the party responsible for placing this nation at severe risk, both economically and by not protecting our borders.
He made a career out of kissing up to politicians, and this guy swore to protect our country?

The world has been fighting Muslim terrorism for 1400 years. Muslim is not a religion, it is an occult started by Mohhumed written by Satan. Allah is not God he is Satan!!!!

Yes Gene, Europe has been fighting the agressive Muslim onslaught since the Muslims crossed the Straits of Gibraltar in 711. They were defeated in 732 in Tours France by Charles Martel (The Hammer) and ran back to Spain, like dogs with their tails between their legs. They settled back quietly into Spain for over 700 years, until finally defeated by Christian armies at the fall of Granada in 1492, by King Ferdinand & Queen Ysabel.

While the Muslims had been defeated in one corridor leading to the heart of Europe, they persistently tried getting in the back door through the Balkens. They were eventually defeated at the gates of Vienna and retreated back into Turkey, leaving a smattering of Muslim bloodline enclaves in the Balkens, which Serbia tried to remove and which Clinton prevented in the 1990′s.

Today, with the spineless liberal/socialist governments heading the various European states and Britain, the Muslims hoards now number close to 30 million within France, Spain, Italy, Germany and even in Scandanavian contries like Sweden, Norway and Denmark.

SOME OF YOUR POST SEEMS TO BE OPINION AND NOT NECESSARILY FACT!
‘I WOULD RATHER BE GOVERNED BY A COMPETENT TURK (A.K.A. MUSLIM) THAN BY AN INCOMPETENT CHRISTIAN.’

Funny, I don’t want to be “ruled” by anyone. I’m an American and we used to rule ourselves until we became so incompent we had to let others do it for us.

Amen about Morris being right 95% of the time, although the issue is Ron Paul here. My concern is not his intellect, nor his financial & economic conservatism, nor his concern about government spying. But as someone else said recently, “I wish I lived in his World as he sees it”. But his foreign policy isolationism is just too scary in today’s global society. I’m trying to see a difference between his idea of “talking nice” to Iran, and Obama’s 2008 “We should talk & reason with Iran”. How has that worked out?

The issue is military nuclear material in irresponsible hands, coupled with a laiason with Venezuela’s Chavez, and the open route up thru Mexico and across our “open” border. And I haven’t heard Paul address any part of that scenario. Yes, Chavez could get material from others if Iran doesn’t supply him, but the issue is preventing harm from where ever it may come.

As I have said before on this blog, Ron Paul for Sec of the Treasury; with a Tea Party Congress, he could become a martyr there.

And the Tea Party Congress is just as important as beating Obama. Even a Republican Progressive President (and none of the current candidates are thought to be in Soros’s pocket like BHO is) would be virtually toothless to promote progressive values with a Tea Party Congress.

DD, you’re wrong about Paul not addressing the Mexican border issue. He definitely wants to strengthen our southern border security. He’d like to do it with some of the troops that are currently stationed in over 130 countries throughout the world. Those troops are spending American dollars boosting other countries economies. Another good reason to bring them back to the good ol’ USA.

You best call Dr. Paul and tell him that he is not in favor of open borders, because he always has been. He is a Libertarian, not a Republican, or a conservative. Conservatives don’t want to cut the defense budget,or let Iran have nuclear weapons.

P.S. I’d like to see Ron Paul as President, but failing that, he’d make a great Secretary of the Treasury as you suggest.

DD says “But his foreign policy isolationism is just too scary in today’s global society”.
First of all, Ron Paul is NOT an isolationist. He is a Non-Interventionist. He wants to trade peaceably with the world and stay out of their Politics. How would you like if the Chinese came over here and helped out Obama?
Secondly, it’s you and your immoral war-mongering fellows, who are spending our money and soldiers’ lives trying to save the world but instead creating enemies everywhere, who are the “scary” people.

I disagree as to why Morris fears Ron Paul. My theory is that mainline pundits fear him because he will absolutely, positively NOT compromise on the constitution and bill of rights. A Ron Paul presidency would mean a screeching halt to the bolshevik agenda we can all see approaching.All their years of undermining the republic? For naught? Hell no! we can’t have Ron Paul! Bearded men under our beds, etc., etc., etc.

I must agree that if the Senate is not radically changed in ten months it will make little difference which Republican is elected. What the liberal media don’t seem to understand is that if the socialists continue to spend as they have been in Washington the resulting inflation in food and fuel and everything we really need is going to affect them as well. NO ONE IS GOING TO BE EXEMPT! I feel quite confident in saying that just about anything you can think of (except perhaps houses for which there will be no or little financing) will soon cost at least three times what they do now! Some believe even more.

In Chapter 9 of my last book, I wrote of the things that had been discovered in what is called The Bible Code, a factual code based primarily on the Hebrew Old Testament and mathematical probability. Researchers found Obama’s name just as they did the names of many who have affected the world for good or evil. “Barack Obama – you will be astonished!” was one. “B. Obama is settling down. Abject suffering accompanies him,” and there were others. Now what this all means remains to be seen but I believe that the tripling of prices that has been set in motion by the president and the congress and their insane spending of all they can borrow or print, is going to result in much suffering for Americans and others all over the world. While the billionaires are trying to figure out how to become multi-billionaires, the “little people” (the middle class as they like to call us) are becoming more concerned with how to survive and prosper in a time of great want, food shortages, and the increasing socialism that will be the answer to the chaos caused by congressional carelessness with our counterfeit monies. Of course the collapse of the Euro could do the same and these “are the last days of normalcy as we have known them.”

The point is we must replace most of those in Congress or it will make little difference in the long run. It is highly probable that gas will be $4 a gallon again this summer and it could set new records. Ultimately I expect it will be at least $10 a gallon and that too, will add to the cost of food when we have to bring it an average of 1,500 miles to where it is eaten. All I can do is try to persuade those who are in denial no matter what they hear to play a little game of “What if!”. I do not know how much time we have but it is less and less as we go deeper into the hole and just keep printing money.

They just raised the National Debt and now they want to raise it another 1,200 BILLION DOLLARS more! PEOPLE WAKE UP: THIS IS WHAT WILL CAUSE INFLATION THE LIKES OF WHICH NO NATIVE BORN AMERICAN HAS EVER SEEN HERE. If those who insist it can’t happen here don’t prepare with whatever you have you will be angry at everyone when it all hits the fan but everyone is responsible for themselves. Learn all you can while you can or you will regret it more than anything you have ever regretted. I am not going to write much more here as it is to time consuming and it’s to much like preaching to the choir. I also agree that the election in 10 months will be the most important one in our lifetime. May God bless all who read this.

Justice, the whole article is siting things Dick Morris is wrong about when it comes to Ron Paul. Dick doesn’t know dick.

Justice: “Iran is making a nuclear bomb and intends to use it”

OK, now YOU site something. Where’s any proof Iran is making a nuclear bomb? Even if it were true, they’d never use it because the US would turn the whole country into a parking lot if they did.

As we should do to israel if they ever use one on any one not using one on them kkflash .

So, you wish for the murder of innocent Jews/ How sad.

Actually, Capitalist, Jimmy makes sense this time. Jimmy is a bigot and I hate to have to side with him, but his comment is certainly as logical as those who say we should nuke Iran for using a nuclear weapon.
Killing is killing no matter whose side you are on.

So capitalist you wish the murder of Innocent muslims if israel fired the first nuke in a war ?

Well Dave at least you can say you are a honest man even if you don’t like me .

Jimmy, I don’t dislike you. I just wish you weren’t a bigot.

not with soros running the country like he is now

kkflash:
It may not be the will of the entire Iranian population, but Iran’s leadership looks upon dying for Allah as the utmost achievement to their lives. It’s all about the coming of the “12th Imam” to them. ‘Advise you investigate the facts.
If you look at those people believing they have the same attitude to death that you may have if you’re a Christian, you had better reconsider your thinking.

KK:
Why doesn’t the world wait to see if Iran doesn’t do it? ‘That satisfy you?:):)

The fact that he was in bed with Bill Clinton for years should be enough info for you and others.

Haha. Who HASN’T been in bed with Clinton for years? Except maybe Hilary…

Violence in Iraq would happen whether we were there or not – our troops had to withdraw because Iraq refused to allow them to stay where we would PRETEND to hold them accountable for harm done to Iraqis – as “consultants” our troops will be accountable under Iraqi law – unlike Collateral Murder.

You confuse the political rhetoric of Iran actually HAVING a nuclear weapons program – showing how you have learned nothing from how we were lied to as to the pretexts for invading Iraq – and as usual – no one is held accountable. The only thing the intelligence community has is SPECULATION that IraN MIGHT have such a program – with ZERO HARD EVIDENCE THAT IT ACTUALLY EXISTS!!!!!

Ask the Anti-Zionist Jews that are never given the time of day in our media about what an outright FRAUD Zionism is: NKUSA.org JewsNotZionists.org JewsAgainstZionism.com

How about the instances that Robert is talking about? Which, in my opinion, would make him 95% WRONG. Not right. So take your war loving ass somewhere else.

And your point is, Justice? In fact that just proves what Ron Paul has been saying all along. We can’t save the world, no matter how many lives and money we throw at the effort.

Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris worked pro bono as a political consultant to Kenya’s murderous thug Odinga, Odumbo’s cousin. The truly ‘dangerous’ and ‘unpatriotic’ to this nation are people like Morris who parade around pretending to be an authority while selling out America with lies and distortions.

If we had stayed in Iraq 100 years, the outcome would have been the same, just as it will be in Afthanistan. We should never have gone to Iraq and we should never have taken on the task of nation building in Afghanistan. Dick Morris is just as wrong about Ron Paul as he is about most everything else.

AMEN

“Iran is making a nuclear bomb and intends to use it. Another Dick Morris information.”

Please site a source of evidence that Iran is making a nuclear bomb, or quit regurgitating the fear-based propaganda that you’re fed everyday.
And please site a source which indicates their intent to use it, any more than we intend to.

i think dick got caught doing a monica on bill and hillery caught them,and run him off. so he went to the rupublican party and didnt tell anybody.he looks strange because hes a democrat. with people like dick morris on tv nothing will change. wake up people and vote Ron Paul. freedom liberty and get us back to the constituion!!!!!!

Dick Morris was an aid and protege of the ex-President William Jefferson Clinton, a real “work of art” moderate opportunist who displayed a complete lack of morality. Mr. Morris now thinks that he is a conservative expert in the world of U.S. politics, but he is nothing but a lackey and pundit of the statist elite that rule in Washington D.C. Congressman Dr.Ron Paul scares them all because he believes that we need to restore the Constitution. When he comes on the airwaves I turn him off the same as Barack Hussein Obama, they are merely mouthing their propagandist viewpoints.

If Ron Paul does not win, I can easily see the end of America. If we have truly awakened then we all know we must go outside the box on this one…Ron Paul is the only one outside the box. Isn’t it funny that when I say outside the box it really means going back to the principles and this country was founded on.
VOTE RON PAUL

Since Dick Morris is now a Republican patsy he apparently is an expert con or loves playing both sides. Some political pundits try and seek fame anyway they can get it.

I don’t think he is to the level of LICKING Ron Paul’s shoes.

Dusterdon and Claire – I agree with both of you. I could never stand Dick Morris.

I also don’t see where he has such a high rate of accuracy in his predictions. I always thought the opposite.

He’s just another legend in his own mind, like so many in the political media today. They are all there to steer we voters in the direction they want us to go. If their predictions come true, it’s because we make them come true.

Kate8…in a way, Morris reminds me a lot of Karl Rove…

Yes because simple people like smooth talk and what they want to hear that mean a bunch of lies. We all are in big troubles we need big solutions and that require morals,sacrifies and discipline amoung others. We have it “easy” apparently for to long. Reallity is showing us we were wrong and living in lies or bubles whatever you to call it. It’s going to get worse no doubt about it. There is no other way. That Dick Morris is a pest of the worst class no doubt about it. He is part of the Gangsters.

It seems to me you have a divergent view of conservatism. The framers of the constitution are my definition of conservative. Veer from that and you flunk the test for conservative.

You are confused and need to restudy

LOL, you are talking about Neo-cons and don’t even know it. Ron Paul is the texbook definition of a true conservative. He doesn’t want to legalize pot (though forcing the fed to remove its over-reaching laws on drugs could have that effect in some states), and he is not an isolationist but I am sure you believe both of those lies as well.

I, too, get tired of the “isolationist” tag applied to Ron Paul and to Libertarians. They are “separatists” which is precisely what our Founding Fathers were. I have been studying the Founding Fathers and the making of America for the last several years and it is evident that the vast majority of them would be Libertarians today. One of their 28 principles upon which they based the Constitution was, “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.”

Kevin, Ron Paul is not a Conservative in the sense we define “conservative”. He is in fact an “anti Statist” which, in fact, is more attractive to me than a conservative in many ways. But…….in other very important aspects he is not a man of this century. Regardless of ones ideological position one cannot conduct foreign policy in the same manner it might have been conducted 200 years ago. It just simply is not logical or practical. Paul says Iran hates us because we have meddled with their affairs for decades. Let’s say that is true. It still does not alter the fact that we have to deal with these rag head clowns in a pro-active manner. I don’t think the electorate wants to see an entire U.S. city dirty bombed so that Paul can prove his point.

Speedle, speedle, speedle. What are we going to do with you?

I hear so many people say, that foreign policy must be different now, that times have changed.

One thing that hasn’t changed, speedle, is that old man of sin, the human being. The principles of relating to foreign nations is now as it ever was, back in ancient Greece and Sparta, throughout the centuries, and even up to today.

You really need to take a hard look at what you are saying. You are saying that we need to empire build and intervene in the internal affairs of other nations. WHY? Self defense doesn’t give us that right. And to use the force of the FEDERAL government to do so is an arrogation of powers, and is highly suspect on the grounds that it actually HELPS preserve our interests. I don’t think you or anyone else has made the case that things are SO different these days, that we HAVE to use OUR military and financial resources to make the changes we want to make in our neighbors. Let them be, and let us save our own country before forcing ourselves on them.

What you describe, Speedle, is a NeoConservative, not a Conservative.
But it really doesn’t matter what anybody calls Ron, the question is ‘Do we agree with his Principles?’. I do. I think that Ron Paul is a man who takes his morality seriously, and expects the Government to do the same.

Realman, you seem to miss the point. Yes, human nature now is the same human nature that was around 2,000 years back. The difference is that 2,000 ago they were throwing spears at each other and marching hundreds of miles to do it. Now the spears are nukes, and a well armed rogue nation simply needs missile technology to place it right between your naive eyes. Get it?

So by your logic Speedle, we should attack any non-friendly nation with nuclear capability? Hit them first, just in case they might decide to come after us? Where does it end? Do we attack North Korea next? China? Russia? Never mind the fact that we’re broke and need to take care of our economy before we can support a strong military.
I presume you’re still young and foolish. Listen to the wiser, more sensible people in this country who know Ron Paul is the only candidate who has our nation and our constitution as his main interest!

Speedle, saying “… one cannot conduct foreign policy in the same manner it might have been conducted 200 years ago,” is like saying the Golden Rule is outdated.

Define Neo-Con for us in your own words without using Google to copy and paste other’s words.

“Dick Morris”

NEOCON=New Conservative, Globalist, Zionist, New World Order,
Belief that Israel today is the same one that God chose
as the preferred peoples. Supporter of the Military Industrial
complex (regardless of financial status. Beleives that Hannity,
Levin, Limbaugh have all the answers to the nation’s woes.
Supports comprehensive illegal immigration and amnesty.

A NeoConservative has no problem with the redistribution of wealth called Welfare, as long as it is administered his way.
A NeoConservative believes in Freedom of Speech as long as it isn’t Sex-related or critical of favored Political figures.
A NeoConservative believes that War is a good lesson in self-sacrifice and therefore improves a man’s character.
A NeoConservative doesn’t see the moral conflict in breaking down peoples’ doors and terrorizing families in his efforts to save people from themselves.
A NeoConservative thinks the Constitution is something to be molded to support his favorite agenda because it’s good for us.

I would like some one tell me what they think a conservative Is?
Ron Paul advocates simply “Follow the Constitution” not as Washington interprets it but as the Framers of the Constitution intended it. For example please read you Constitution, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8, WHICH DEFINES not only the duties, but the responsibilities of Congress:
“The Congress shall have the Power To, lay and Collect taxes, Duties, imposts, Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties , Imposts, and Excises shall be uniform throughout the UNITED STATEs:
“To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
“To Regulate Commerce with foreign Nations and among the several
States, and with the Indian Tribes.
“To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
“To Coin money, regulate the value thereof, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures:”
This goes on and calls out the duties and responsibilities of our Congress, but here lies the answer to the Hugh $15 Trillion national debt. For Example no where in this Constitution does it authorize Congress the authority to delegate that private banking Cartel. The Federal Reserve is Federal in name only. It is no more a part of the Federal Government then FedEx, or Federal Trucking, nor Federal Can company. But is a privately owned and privately controlled corporation, owned by the commercial Banks throughout and over 300 of the elite, wealthy famlies throughout the World. Those duties belong to Congress, not to this out-law Unconstitutional Corporation.
Ron Paul is on the house banking committee and has stressed this violations of our Constitution for years. Who would know more about this then him? LOOK. Every citizen who serves his country took the oath, and this includes every Representative and Every Senator, and the President, himself.
As it stands now, every dollar now in circulation throughout the world is a debt to our government. Thus to you and me! What we need instead is a “Credit Monetary System”, Where the government creates the money for expansion, instead of the FED and Spends it into circulation. Debt free, as the founding fathers intended.
Think about this and then answer this letter;.

I would like some one tell me what they think a conservative Is?
Ron Paul advocates simply “Follow the Constitution” not as Washington interprets it but as the Framers of the Constitution intended it. For example please read you Constitution, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8, WHICH DEFINES not only the duties, but the responsibilities of Congress:
“The Congress shall have the Power To, lay and Collect taxes, Duties, imposts, Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties , Imposts, and Excises shall be uniform throughout the UNITED STATEs:
“To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
“To Regulate Commerce with foreign Nations and among the several
States, and with the Indian Tribes.
“To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
“To Coin money, regulate the value thereof, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures:”
This goes on and calls out the duties and responsibilities of our Congress, but here lies the answer to the Hugh $15 Trillion national debt. For Example no where in this Constitution does it authorize Congress the authority to delegate that private banking Cartel. The Federal Reserve is Federal in name only. It is no more a part of the Federal Government then FedEx, or Federal Trucking, nor Federal Can company. But is a privately owned and privately controlled corporation, owned by the commercial Banks throughout and over 300 of the elite, wealthy famlies throughout the World. Those duties belong to Congress, not to this out-law Unconstitutional Corporation.
Ron Paul is on the house banking committee and has stressed this violations of our Constitution for years. Who would know more about this then him? LOOK. Every citizen who serves his country took the oath, and this includes every Representative and Every Senator, and the President, himself.
As it stands now, every dollar now in circulation throughout the world is a debt to our government. Thus to you and me! What we need instead is a “Credit Monetary System”, Where the government creates the money for expansion, instead of the FED and Spends it into circulation. Debt free, as the founding fathers intended.
Think about this and then answer this letter;. Than say it again, AND AGAIN UNTIL PEOPLE GET THE GUTS TO READ THEIR CONSTITUTION. IT’S SPELLED OUT FOR ALL TO READ. ONLY Ron Paul seems to understand it.

Good definition of neoconservative:

1. Small group of politicians coming from as early as the Ford administration up to the Bush II administration. Extreme left wing Troskyites that decided the Democratic party wasn’t warlike enough for them.

2. Have a FAKE pretense about believing in smaller government. In reality believe in big spending and tax cuts for their wealthy political and business friends, hence deficit spending.

3. They FAKE being social conservatives, although true social conservatives **believe** they really care about social issues. Neocons distract the public by acting like they really care about social issues like gay marriage, abortion, and illegal immigration, but don’t actually do anything about them once in power. Meanwhile they are busy conducting wars and stifling your freedom.

4. Believe in costly wars and creating boogeymen to try and make you think only they can keep you safe while they restrict your freedoms to “protect you”. This is their signature issue, to help keep them in power.

5. Actually despise any types of small government advocates, i.e. Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul, traditional live and let live conservatives, and libertarians.

I totaly agree with Dick Morris,Ron Paul is very dangerous for this country.Like someone has alreagy said he is a Liberitan,Enough said.

Charles – Not sure what a Liberitan is, but the only people who view him as dangerous are the ones who want more of the same. That would be the NWO loyalists on boh the Right and the Left.

Be aware that whoever gets promoted by the media is already approved by the elite (since they own the entire MSM as their PR branch), so whomever they ignore is probably good for those who would be for the Constitution. If they find that they can no longer ignore someone (such as Ron Paul) they set about to destroy him.

Haven’t you noticed how they’ve all colluded to remain silent on O’s sealed records and fictional past?

It’s about time we stop allowing them to tell us how we think, wouldn’t you say?

I concur Kate. I think we are on the same page.

Well people, If you think it’s bad having a bunch of drunks driving on our highways, just wait until we have a bunch of druggies legally behind the wheel. Also prostitutes where-ever they wish to congregate because that would also be legal under a Ron Paul presidency. Oh, and Israel can go under too.
Ron Paul—a great big NO.
What’s Up?

What’s – That’s a truly asinine statement.

Sure, Ron Paul will singlehandedly, most likely by EO, legalize all drugs.

Aren’t you paying attention? He’s just saying that it does not fall under the authority of the federal government to decide these things. It’s a state issue. He WON’T EVEN ADDRESS IT.

Sheesh. What’s so hard to understand about that?

The other candidates have stances on much more dangerous issues that they DO plan to shove on us. None but Ron Paul are concerned about Consttutional constraints.

Sure, just as if there are millions of pot smokers waiting to get behind the wheel if it is made legal in their state. Just like alcohol, if a state made marijuana legal it would be illegal to drive (currently in Medical Marijuana states, it is illegal to drive or smoke outside of your home). All legalizing Marijuana would do is that it would put tax revenue into government and take away all the spending on needless Law Enforcement, Drug enforcement could be focused on hard drugs… Maybe they could even focus on catching more “drunks”….

We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her avowed enemies. How does that help Israel? – Ron Paul

http://www.newsmax.com/DougWead/ron-paul-israel-garybauer/2011/04/11/id/392440

“Paul was asked whether his libertarian views on such controversial issues — mainly his belief that personal liberties should not be encroached upon by the federal government — could help him attract socially conservative voters. Paul said he believes that states should have the right to legalize gay marriage, marijuana, and prostitution IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO!!!!” How is that Ron Paul legalizing any of those things? It is about states rights. For example on any issue…it’s so we don’t have laws that say 55% of states (or people) support, that all states have to follow….

Very well said,Kate! Well said,indeed!

What..may use a little hyperbole, but he has a point. St. Louis OD’s for 2011 were approximately 300! Can you imagine what that total might have been with uncontrolled availability? If you are still cool with that, let’s do away with traffic laws, and make it legal to steal! And all legal offenses (like fraud, defamation of character, etc.). Society without reasonable restrictions is chaos and anarchy. Kate, I simply cannot imagine you would be happy driving down a street and being hit head on by someone high on drugs! With legalized drugs that would not be hyperbole any more than being hit head on by someone high on alcohol now! Your “Individual Declaration of Independence from Tyranny” appears interesting at first glance. But after some serious thought, it has too much “I” and “me” in it. I subscribe more to a declaration “of the people, by the people, and for the people” (of which I am one of equal authority, accountability, and responsibility).

You are right. Ron Paul is good for our country but dangerous to the liberal establishment and the Neo-cons like Romney,Rush, Hannity,Gingrich,Perry.Levin and their ilk. Gingrich is a CFR member. Romney is endorsed by McCain. I say the current foreign policy of intererfering in other nations affairs has been proved wrong many times. Let us quit doing that and see how it works. It worked before all these wars. Take a look at history.

Well, I guess if you think personal liberty, the US Constitution, sound money, and a balanced budget are dangerous, you must be right.

If he is from Liberia, he’s not eligible to be President. What’s the problem?

Pepper – As opposed to being from, say…Kenya?

So you agree with Tricky Dicky the Toe Sucker Morris. The man with the foot fetish. Yeah, HE is the crazy uncle.

OUCH. That hurts. A LIBERTARIAN? Horrors.

What about the principles of the Constitution? Ron is right in line with every single one of them, always has been. The only thing out of line is that the GOP doesn’t know the Constitution, doesn’t know the reasoning behind it, and thinks that the government gives them money for different things than it gives the Democrats money for.

Two sides of the same coin. Ron takes the whole coin, washes if off, buffs it, and takes the flak when people say it no longer resembles its formerly tarnished self.

Psychopathic neoconservatives who should never be allowed to have their fingers anywhere near a nuke button are calling Ron Paul dangerous?

Ron Paul will gladly support our allies. He says we have a piece of paper (US Constitution) that explains how the US goes to War. He said we will follow that piece of paper that most Americans have forgotten about!

THE ACLU HAS NOT FORGOTTEN WHAT THE CONSTITUTION IS ABOUT OR FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT. THEY ARE IN COURT MORE THAN ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION I KNOW OF PROTECTING THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE.

Really? Even Christians? What are the statistics of cases initiated by the ACLU in which the ACLU supports a Christian viewpoint compared to advocating one that is opposed to the Christian viewpoint?

The ACLU is a socialist organization. Founded initially, and populated currently by Socialists! Forget them!

Actually you are being a tad bit narrow minded. You are trying to paint with a black and white brush, on a subject that has many shades of grey.
Ron Paul is 100% Fiscally Conservative. There is not a candidate, to include Obama, who is even close to Ron Paul here.
Historically Conservatives(like Ohio Senator Robert Taft) were non-interventionists as is Ron Paul, like it or not.
Conservatives also used to be for smaller and non-intrusive Government, just like Ron Paul, though Ron Paul may be a bit more extreme here as he supports a Constitutionally bound Federal Government. Though seemingly most so called Conservatives are all about expanding Government. Is that just me imagining things or am I spot on here?

Of course socially Ron Paul is all about individual liberty and freedom which of course comes with more individual responsibility. Ron Paul is also strongly for following the Constitution.
So unless Conservatives really are AGAINST less spending, smaller and less intrusive Government, Liberty, personal responsibility and the Constitution, I would say Ron Paul is a Conservative Constitutionalist with a Libertarian twist.
In essence he is the perfect Conservative solution for the present day litany of issues crushing this nation and what it used to stand for…

Who says Obama is a fiscal conservative??? Wheere have you been?
What’s Up?

Nice analogy of Dr Paul’s positions. I would say that I fit right into the category of Conservative Constitutionalist with a Liberterian twist! It’s like our conversations between my groups of paleo-Conservatives, If we fix the economic problems of our great Nation, then the social issues will just kind of fix themselves. Leave the States and the People alone and let us figure out what is best for us! These know-it-better Neo-Cons are going to be the death of the USA and Liberty as a whole. I just say this, Neo-Cons ought to rebrand their political spectrum as Neo-Fascism and get it over with!

Mr. Ron Paul is the only conservative among all of the candidates,but we
don’t hear about the others that are also running,they are trying to isolate Ron Paul like they did to Pat Buchanan,he won in that sector but the regular Joes didn’t like it so it was rigged to make him lose,he then lost and look at where we are today and look at what we have in the whitehouse now…A muslim,I’m sure he will round up all of the christians soon like they arrested a christian in Iran and threaten him with death if he doesn’t change his religion-forced religion,that’s where we are headed here in America and they have 50 terrorist training camps here now (muslim)terrorists,but remember we are trying to get rid of terrorists overseas,only to have them open up training camps on our own soil,the person that killed alot of American Military in Texas was influenced enough to where he shot Americans,proof we have sleepers here in America (terrorists)put them in the fema camps they made for us,test the guillotines out on them!!!

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. — Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

I realize I wont change your mind and I respect your strong feelings on this matter, but I have to ask how did you come to your conclusion. Through my own research I have found Dr. Paul to represent all the right things. I base my conclusion on his well documented personal life and public life (congressional voting record). I am also curious why you feel like its our responsibility to police the world. I realize its better to be proactive and stop tyranny but shouldn’t we stop it here first. Not since the British ruled us as colonies or Lincoln suspended the writ of Habeas Corpus has the average American been striped of their rights. We are headed toward a police state governed by a two party ruling class of Democrats and Republicans…. Your vote for Dr. Paul may be the last time we get to debate freely. I pray you will re-consider.

Did you know that Ron Paul’s proposed military budget is FOUR TIMES that of China’s and larger than GW’s in 2005?

Or that our troops (in both 2008 and 2012) donate more to Ron Paul’s campaign than to ALL others – including the Commander in Chief – COMBINED? Want to support the troops? Give them the Commander in Chief they WANT.

Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA’s Bin Ladin unit, endorsed Ron Paul days before the Iowa caucus. Judge Napolitano interviewed him about this on Fox – find it on youtube.

We cannot run around bombing POTENTIAL enemies because they MIGHT get nukes. With China and Russia backing Iran, we could well start WW III.

You sound like a regular “Republican”that’s how Pat Buchanan was ousted
pile enough dirt on him,don’t give him any coverage in the News and only
hear the negative malarky about him to where we’ll all believe it,not to happen this time, “WIN RON PAUL WIN”.Show them how you really are an honest and true conservative for America,some people don’t want you to help us to get jobs and to stop government from snooping into our lives,they like it because they don’t want to be proven wrong at any cost. Sounds like obummer lovers,where’d you meet up?at the D.C. sauna??

Ronald Reagan was a good example of an older man doing quite well as our leader. Sometimes age has it’s advantages…………

Except Reagan was 78 when he left office; RP will be that when he starts.

Yet when it comes to good sense and logic, Ron runs circles around the other candidates. The other candidates try to imitate him, but the people know they aren’t genuine.

If it takes an Old Man to restore morality and our Constitutionally Limited Federal Government, then I will vote for an old man, and thank him for it.
You, Phil, would not get my vote if you were running for city dog catcher.

DaveH you were asking about the statistics of the number of cases where the ACLU has defended Christians> They defended Sean Hannity,Ollie North and Rush Limbaugh. From that list I’m betting they are batting 100%. What about you? which of those would you think is non/Christian?? A particluar “religion” is not an issue since the 1st Amendment forbids laws relative to “religion”
If Christians are violating someones civil rights they will be there against them as to that particular conduct! Christians have no more rights to a particular social conduct than any other religion. Sheer numbers do not enlarge civil rights.

Wow, your right, the most experienced people are usually in their 30′s. Lets just exterminate all the old people…. their gonna die soon anyway right? Sir please don’t ever speak again unless it has been filtered by an “experienced” person.

Thanks

How would you successfully stop Iran for getting them? Military action?
Any fool who advocates military action against Iran is not fit to lead any Nation, let alone the one I dwell in! Iran is no Iraq and certainly not at all like Afghanistan. If you recall your history and who supported whom during the cold war years, this is plainly clear.
Military action against Iran will pit the US against Russia and/or China on the Battle field. Both countries are nuclear powers and both countries have considerable military might and that might is in the region.
Only a moron would consider military action a possible tool against Iran. Not that we can afford more wars presently and certainly not after we are forced to bail out Europe.
Since the US has invaded and or bombed many of Iran’s neighbors they would be fools to not want Nukes. Ron Paul’s solution is stop the nonsense overseas and rightly so. We can’t afford it and it will create more of those scary terrorists we are told to be afraid of…
Why continue the pattern of meddling, killing and creating even more terrorists? It is a completely absurd policy.

Ron Paul is a non-interventionist, not an isolationist. He believes in interacting with all nations, but not being the world’s policeman. All great empires have failed because of overextention of their military and/or excessive debt. Does this sound familiar? We cannot defend ourselves, much less the world, if we are broke. The sooner we pull back our troops and quit tryiing to police the world, the sooner we can get our finances in order. If we keep overspending on defense (really offense) we will go bankrupt and will have no military and no economy.

We keep giving foreign aid to countries/groups who are supposedly our allies and then end up fighting them later (Al Qaeda, Sadam Hussein, etc.). This is the definition of insanity. Having all of our troops spread around the world with very few troops actually in the US, does not make us safe. What if we really are attacked? Would we be safer with our troops stationed in the US are spread around the world in 800+ different bases?

Instead of parroting what the establishment says about what would make us safe, people need to read history. To study what we did in the past and what the results have been. If you look at our military history up intil the world wars, we acted similarly to what Ron Paul wants to do. We kept our nation’s budget under control and were friends with most of the world. We were safe and prosperous. Since then, we have meddled aroung the world, especially since the world wars. We have many peoples and nations that hate us. We are on the verge of bankruuptcy. We are having our young soldiers killed and maimed daily. We are fight the same people that we set up as leaders and fighters at an earlier date. Which policy really works?

Oh really? Why not tell that to Russia? China? India?

No, you reserve your challenges for smaller weaker countries. What principles are you espousing? What about the Constitution permits OFFENSE and AGRESSION in foreign countries, and the taking away of their natural rights? We are permitted self defense as our natural God given rights, and of course we can always use the anti Missile defense that Reagan promoted. But what gives us the right to invade other countries, “pre-emptively”?

Are you allowed to pre-emptively invade your neighbors houses because you fear they are stockpiling weapons to attack you later? If you don’t, how do you delegate that right to your government ? We delegate our authority to our leaders, where did they pick up that right and power and authority?

Another 2 dimensional American. I hope you will look somewhere other than your high school American history book for answers. I would like you to go back to 1942 and American Interventionism in Iran. Start there and you will have a better understanding of Iran. Please also look to see which committee’s Dr. Paul sits on in Congress and what type of direct security information he is privy to. I’ll take his word on “the bomb”. Are you still looking for those weapons of mass destruction we went in Iraq for? {side note} we gave them to Saddam when he was “our man”. Please take some time to review the history Dr. Paul was actually part of. If you want to fight that bad, go down to your local recruiter and sign up, other wise keep in mind that if war breaks out among Americans you’ll be fighting ME.

Jim,

You say the war on drugs is “constant vigilance”, It is more like “Constant Violence” just like prohibition in the 20′s. It just creates violent mobsters/cartels/and corruption and cost billions every year.

If decriminalized would you start doing drugs ?

What has happened in Europe ?

Please read this short article by Richard Branson about the results after 10 years of decriminalization in Portugal (in Europe).

http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/blog/time-to-end-the-war-on-drugs

I have no interest in using drugs, however, I have read where in Europe they set up places for the druggies to go to use. They can not
leave the site with anything. If they want to kill themselves its their choice. Give it to them. The only thing i wish Ron Paul would
be stronger on is immigration. He is a wuss in that department.

I’ve taken the time to read about 75% of the posts on this site. There have been highly intelligent conversations…and a lot of name calling. The Republican race is holding our attention. I believe that the Democrats are using this time to use the money that Obama has amassed to focus on getting the next election into a another Democratic controlled Congress. That way, no matter which Party wins, the Socialist Agenda will continue. WE ARE BEING MANIPULATED LIKE PAWNS IN A GAME OF CHESS. We should counter this by focusing our attention back to keeping control in Congress. Yes, it is important WHO gets the nomination…but, the media has already done all that they could to make Dr. Paul invisible to those who believe the “news” they see on TV. Ron Paul is doing HIS part in trying to win this campaign. We need to support him with the power base in Congress to follow through if he can win the White House!! We are in a WAR within our own Country to save America, the Constitution and our own Freedoms as Citizens. Dr. Paul says he wants to secure our borders…AND our coastlines. He does not support Amnesty or Anchor Babies…they are breaking the Law by being here. FIRST, securing the Borders to STOP the illegal entrance…then deal with the problem that exists. Build up the Military within our Country. If we HAVE to go to war…get approval from Congress…then go in…get the job done…and come home. Don’t stay and try to fix their problems. It would be a long time before THEY would become a problem again…and a lesson for any one else wanting to mess with us. As far as prostitutes…and drugs…Dr. Paul says to let each State take care of their own problems. When Govt gets involved, we have agencies like DOJ doing stupid things like walking over 2,000 guns into Mexico…nuf said?? If you REALLY want to know WHO Ron Paul is and WHAT he stands for…go to youtube…there are literally thousands of videos and interviews. Get informed before you start saying he is scary. SCARY is the Govt. we already have that hides TRUTH from us and uses “secret programs” to steal our Liberties. SCARY is the politicians who lie to us and are only saying what they want us to believe about them. Just check their voting records and what they have supported. Only ONE has consistently stood for the Constitution!! Obama “thinks” he is exceptional… brilliant… and said he is bored because he has never felt challenged by Life. Well, Obama IS “challenged”… by his incompetence.

Jim, How many people are hurt by “legal drugs” everyday? How many people die from smoking each year? How about alcohol? You can not legislate stupid. As a responsible society we only have an obligation to protect those who “can not” protect themselves. The rest of us are on our own. Perhaps we should work on personal responsibility and accountability (punishment) before we make more blanket rules that interfere with the responsible among us.
By the way I would choose not to do drugs…. But I like having the ability to choose.

Glen:
“Prescription Drugs Kill 300 Percent More Americans than Illegal Drugs” this is just one example of the good prescription drugs.”
http://rinf.com/alt-news/business-news/prescription-drugs-kill-300-percent-more-americans-than-illegal-drugs/4837/