The obvious has been overlooked. Americans love new adventures and new challenges or fulfilling experiences and aren’t afraid to live in other countries. We live in a world economy and people go where the jobs are. The same reason millions flock to our shores in search for jobs or better opportunity. An even more important reason is the tremendous cost of American colleges. Why spend $100,000 here when you can get the same education elsewhere for $50,000. That follows the trend of those who go to foreign countries for better healthcare or at least much less expensive. The Elites in our country are gouging us so some are searching for “bluer skies”.

Of course they are liberals! Other countries want intelligent, tolerant self motivated people to live amongst them. When other countries start asking for ill-educated, ignorant, intolerant, god bothering haters I am sure we will see a conservative exodus but until then you will remain a blight on America. By the way US citizens abroad still have a vote

Unfortunately guys, no it’s not just liberals. Think about that…the Liberals are the ones who are all for the demise of the USA, they’re getting what they want “right here”. No it’s people who are trying to protect their wealth and preserve some personal freedom in country’s that don’t have the technology to watch everything they do. Some of those Central and South American countries actually have property rights…which means their entire legal system is different than the feudal system we’re now living under.

I’ve met eastern Europeans here from the former Soviet Bloc who are stunned that we are letting our rights slide out of view without a whimper.

Bob . . . America started down the road to flush the Constitution in 1913, with the invention of the Federal Reserve. Then FDR in the 30′s continued the process. John Dewey in the 30′s started to erode the education system to the point that today they are turning out dummies that can’t even read their diplomas.
But never has a Pres spent more money in a shorter time than the current one . . . 5 Trillion in 3 short years. Are we repeating the 30′s today . . . you bet!!!

“The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency,” said Lord Keynes.

Deflation is what America underwent in the 1930s. A Fed-created bubble burst, causing margin calls to go out to stockholders, who ran to their banks that, besieged, collapsed, wiping out a third of our money. As Milton Friedman, who won a Nobel for his thesis that the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression.

ATLAS SHRUGGED

Hey Rational, congrats…feel comfortable stating where you are?…Panama perhaps?

One of the things about the USA that will be hard to beat in most of the rest of the world (ROW) is its infrastructure. Unfortunately most of it is a vestige of a once great country (ala the amazing infrastructure of the Roman Empire before it died of internal corruption, esp of its financial/monetary system, like the American Empire is dying and likely will die). But now even that infrastructure is collapsing, and b/c of the debasement of our currency and the fact that this country is already massively (and unpayably) indebted beyond, WAY beyond, its GDP, sans a Ron Paul bringing out a massive pair of scissors and cutting depts and wielding a paul bunyan-sized axe to chop at the roots of our Empirism and bring troops home, ending our encampments around the world and further deployment of troops into further undeclared wars, we will no longer be able to maintain that infrastructure.

Everything else that is great about this country and that we sense, or used to sense, upon returning home (once past TSA and customs, where we are now made to feel almost like criminals) has to do with respect for the rule of law that protects the rights of the individual, that upholds the liberties our forefathers labored so hard to set up and maintain here. Most Americans have NO idea how fragile that rule of law is, how abused it now is by the “elite” class that considers itself above it, nor that many of those rights and liberties have already been voted away from us by our (non-)representatives in the latest Natl “Security” bill or the Patriot Act or TSA or simply “signed away” be a myriad other executive orders that all told have essentially cut the legs out from under our Bill of Rights.

Without those liberties, we are a banana republic…we are the USSA…we are, and really are fast becoming, a police state. This is how all police states have started. And most citizens of those states would have argued that it couldn’t happen there, right up until it did. Frogs in a pan of cold water slowly heated to boiling. And yet many Americans believe that just about all is permissible in the name of “security”…and by that is meant, unfortunately by the majority it would seem, the right to continue on in their passive, self-indulgent, unaware-of-and-indifferent-to-what’s-really-going-on “American dream.” Well that dream is dying and all but dead. Wake up and smell the coffee. They should read what B Franklin wrote just before our Revolution: “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

If you want to be able to boast about how great this Constitutional Representative Republic is even 5 years from now, you’d d*mn well better be doing something more about it than simply posting puerile posts on a board bad-mouthing people who are leaving, many very sad that they feel they must. Learn the facts. WHY are these people leaving? They are NOT uneducated or stupid, nor do most hate the USA, that is, what it once was, just the police state that it appears on the verge of becoming (if it isn’t already except in final execution).

You who are talking about staying and “fighting”…tell us exactly how you’re doing that and going to do that? Have you screamed at your representatives and senators about the Patriot Act? Have you warned your fellow citizens of what’s going on so they, too, will raise their voices. Are you reading REAL information on the internet, or simply being fed propaganda by the Ministry of Truth, the lamestream media, totally controlled by TPTB?

I myself am trying to decide what to do as I’ve been fighting for this country for many many years. I’m well aware that the grass always seems greener on the other side, and that all countries have their own problems. On the other hand, what if you had been living in Germany in the few years before Hitler came to power and you were watching what was going on behind the scenes and could sense and then finally see that what was coming was NO GOOD!! Would you have stayed and tried to “change” the system, one that very soon after became an absolute steamroller as it sucked in a majority of the German people in its nationalistic “We are proud to be Germans and we will be STRONG!!” (I paraphrase, of course) only to steamroll right over them and the rights of those who stayed and endured the fury and ego and megalomania of Hitler? It’s a hard decision to make, and NOT easy…don’t judge these people…go look in the mirror and ask if that person really has a clue what’s really going on. If not go find out.

The only reason this country still appears to many of the sheeple to be “stable” is b/c “we” (that is, TPTB, the “elite” plutocracy that controls our industrial-military now nearly fully fascist complex/govt) have the reserve currency of the world and so have been able to clusterf*ck the working classes of the ROW by printing ours ad infinitum and using it to pay for their unconscienably cheap labor.

But you watch and see. The chaos and instability and discontent and rioting happening in the Eurozone (thanks almost entirely to the Intl Bankster Cabal that runs the Western world thru their diabolical deals with the natl governments that allow them to create and control the distribution of their counterfeit “fiat” currencies, including here in the US, with repayment for the “use” of the created-out-of-nothing-monies guaranteed with TAXPAYERS’ [yours and mine!!!] money (taxes)…there is the very simplest way out of the situation: DEFAULT!!…but who would lose in that case?–THE BANKSTERS!!!, that’s who, the very ones who set up this disaster precisely for their own megalomanical plans!!) will for sure find its way to our shores…count on it. WE HAVE THEIR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS IN SPADES HERE!! Our debt, that continues to be created beyond anyone’s wildest imagination, is already greater than ALL THE NATIONS OF EUROPE COMBINED, and that’s NOT including our entitlements!!!

…and I’ll stop here as this has already gotten too long even though the above is just a fingernail sketch of the topic…

WAKE UP!!!…you love this country…don’t just say it’s “great”…do what needs to be done to keep it great, or more realistically to restore it to its greatness…if it’s not already too late.

Not on your life, doc. Things are too good away from the homeland. I’ve been away for six years now. I have a good job, make a great salary free from US taxes up to 91k, don’t have to pay social security, have international health insurance which pays for all my medical bills and meds for an annual fee of nearly peanuts. The country I live in is modern, clean, and the people are extremely friendly and well educated. The internet service is super fast, cell phone service is cheap and reliable. Why would I want to come back to a debt ridden, bankrupt country that may be on its last legs.

There are an unbelievable number of Americans moving to central and south America in order to try and escape communism here in the land of the free. Sadly though, some of those countries run on the American dollar and the IRS is opening offices there as well.
There’s no escape from “Globalists” people…we might as well confront and put them down here on American soil.

South America was well known for the land of the Fascists especially Argentina and Paraguay. Brazil is really up and coming although left of center. Chile has changed for the better since they got rid of Pinochet. Chavez is an extreme leftist so who would be moving down there? I do believe that we should trade more with those south of us and that would be great for all economies.

Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.

MIRAGE YOU IDIOT!
Guess what! It isn’t “America” that sucks…its the American Government and its owners that suck. Its the American system that has failed us at every turn that sucks. We The People need to take back OUR country from them.

m, you seem to have a major reality problem between those large, flapping ears. If you’re not a typical overpaid, closet utopian and dyed-in-the-wool Obummerite loser, it’s quite a mirage-like facsimile. By the way, comrade, that word that you slaightered [public schools are SO great, aren't they?] is HYPOCRITE.
Look it up, if you can read. Then, go to the nearest mirror, stare at that half-assed mirage in front of you, and repeat ‘hypocrite,’ ‘hypocrite,’ hypocrite.’
Consider moving to North Korea, LOSER. Be sure to take some warm clothes, as the weather there is no ‘mirage,’ comrade.

Sheesh, another one that has been drinking kool aid and is a little touched. If you don’t like this country or our Christian founding, then get out and go home. You talk about us worshiping money? I sure don’t. I only worship God and Jesus. Let’s get back to the ways we were founded and get back to God and Jesus. If we did these things, this nation would be able to get rid of the problems we have now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

mirage – I think that’s what you’re living in.
HHey mr. blasphemy up your rear-end…The true God (you know – the one who had the Bible written?) he really does heal people like they said occurred in the first century. That’s Christianity and the Christian God. I you’ve got your Biblical undertanding, appliation and worship all running down the same mental track He still does it. I’m living proof.
However, If your hope is in the all-mighty medical pill, and not God, you will soon be faced with the option to believe rightly or die…’cause medicine is in a CRISIS THEY CAN’T GET OUT OF.

I travel extensively. I am currently working in East Africa. I still live here and work a rotation. I would really like to know where you have found these places that are so much better that the U.S. I have yet to find one. When you talk to these guys from all over the world you will find out that the United States is still the”promised land”. They would give any thing to live in a place where you can live in any size of a house you want, you can get in your car and drive where you want, you can own a gun. You can eat what you want, you can do what you want, you can build what you want. There is still no place like this one. I thank God every time I land inside these beautiful shores. This administration and its friends such as you are trying to make this country like all the others. It was never like that and is still the beacon of the world. This world even if it does not know it needs America and it needs it to be strong. The people I talk to from third world and emerging countries know this. You should see the confusion and hurt on their faces when we fail or when our idiot leader apologizes for us. They know America is the light. If that light goes out there is no more freedom. They all know that why don’t we?

It is odd you should say that when their taxes amount to all of the rest of us combined. In fact it is the government that is to blame, to much regulation, not only on the public but corporate as well. To high of a corporate tax, the highest in the world, and to much spending, especially by the current administration. Spending, taxing, and over regulation is not the way to turn a failing economy around. Reduction in these 3 areas is the way to get this country moving again. Case in point is the XL Pipeline which would put 20,000 Americans back to work immediately, but even though it has been approved by all agencies involved, Mr. Obama refuses to sign the legislation.

Right, Miko. All we have to do is tax all the rich folks. Hold on, define “rich”? Anyone who earns $100,000 per year? That won’t do. We can just redefine “rich” and raise taxes on everyone that earns anything so that the welfare recips can grow ever stronger and keep the politicians in office (read “POWER”).
Granted the malcontent currently in charge of the Soros Administration did not cause the problem, but creating trillions of dollars in additional debt certainly did not help.
In truth the problem started with the original Progressive, Woodie wilson, who gave us the federal reserve and the wealth transfer program called the federal income tax. In 1913. So the progressive game plan to bring the US to its knees is about 100 years old now.
And you must admit, they have done a great job of it!
But what is really helpful is to expand the class warfare espoused by the miscreant in the white house. Divide and conquer. Works every time!

Miko . . . the top 10% pay almost 70% of all income taxes . . . the bottom 50% pay no income taxes . . . the other 40% pay 30% of the taxes . . . tell me again how your “Scheme” works??? With a few facts of course!!!
What I do know . . . the O’bumbler Regeme has spent almost 5 TRILLION dollars in the last 3 years, increased the National Debt by 50% . . . remember . . . in THREE SHORT YEARS . . .

The President has little effect on the country’s economic stance…but gets the credit or the blame. Look directly at congress and you will see the ones who made (or did not make) the decisions that affect our economy. They are the spineless pusillanimous vermin who ignore our Constitution in their blind lust to enrich themselves and set themselves up as the closest thing we have to royalty. The dead giveaway is their insistence on exempting themselves from the laws they enact. We have come to the point of fifty years of ignorant/bad/reckless decisions.

“this is not obama’s fault”

Not entirely, but who has presided over and caused the largest give-away of worthless paper in not only the US history let alone all of pre-Obama history combined?

Regardless the cause or reasoning for the Vietnam war, the greatest and perhaps only thing wrong with the Vietnam war is that despite out might and intel, we were not permitted to win, only to die. And if that weren’t bad enough, the terms under which we pulled out sent us home in disgrace with our tail between our legs. Both the Vietnam war and the war against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda should have been wrapped up in less than a year. And the Iraq war should not have lasted much beyond the capture of Saddam Hussein.

You are partly right, tax laws are made by politicians that make laws that favor them, and lets remember, it was people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd that were more responsible for the collapse of the housing market than anyone else, but ask yourself, are we better off with $15+ trillion debt, than we were with $9 trillion that existed when Obama was elected 3 years ago? George Bush spent money like a drunken sailor, but Obama has made him look thrifty. It was and still is my belief, Obama has no love for America, or our system of government, and is doing everything he can to collapse our economy and bring about his fundamental change. You can’t give our billions in grants to “green” companies that have a 100% chance of failure, or shut down our oil production, which is the lifeline of our industry, as well as residential use. Also, lets remember all this theft from the taxpayer, for these “projects” are political paybacks. Now, let me ask you, if this has been going on in the first 3 years of his presidency, what do you think 4 years where he has nothing to lose would bring.

Both Republicans and Democrats are responsible for the crazziness of the mortgage industry. When you are forced to make loans to people that can’t pay back a loan, and they don’t have any equity in a home, it’s bound to fail. In 1965, I bought a house for $7 thousand, this is what I could afford. I had to have 20% as a down payment to get the loan; that meant I had an equity. I lived in that home for 30 years. What I’m saying is, Fanny and Freddie should have never been created.

Now, lets take a look at Bernanke and the FED, which has nothing to do with the government, it is a privately owned central banking system. Bernanke should be tried for economic treason; he has has given out over $16 trillion in “loans,” to banks, both foreign and domestic, and that could be the tip of the iceberg.

Do you believe you can tell what someone is by the people they surround themselves with? I believe this very strongly. If I surrounded myself with the people he surrounds himself with, there’s no doubt I’d be a communist.

S C, Indeed times are tough and the youth are, like rats deserting a sinking ship, heading to what they think are greener pastures. Back in the 60′s, we had a thing called the draft. We also had a thing called Viet Nam. During that time period, many American youth deserted this country as well. Many claimed religous differences while others claimed nothing. Bottom line was, they didn’t want to get drafted and risk possible death to defend our nation. When times get tough, there will always be those who run. My feelings are simple. If you leave, don’t come back and damned any President who wants to welcome them back. A time may very well be coming when we experience our second revolution. For sure, those who leave to save their own skins will not be welcomed back. Those who stand and fight will be the heroes of a new and free Nation.