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Newt Is No RINO

December 7, 2011 by  

Newt Is No RINO

A few years ago, conservatives disappointed with the statist brand of Republicanism that was becoming ever more prevalent in Washington, D.C., developed the term “RINO” and began branding big-spending, big-government Republicans with the term. It’s an acronym for Republican In Name Only.

The term was heard often during the 2008 Republican Presidential primary campaign and was used to describe John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and others. The term was also used to describe a number of House and Senate candidates targeted by the Tea Party in the 2010 midterm elections.

But the term is a fallacy that arises from a false premise: that the Republican Party is the party of small government. The fallacy developed during the Barry Goldwater years and picked up again with Ronald Reagan. Since Reagan, the party propaganda machine has done its job well, convincing the masses of something that is not and never has been so.

Goldwater, never a darling of the Republican establishment, fought the liberal (or Rockefeller) wing of the Republican Party and tried to drive it to the right. But in truth, the Republican establishment has always been about growing government, and that’s why neither Goldwater nor Reagan was embraced by the Party elites.

In other words, the Republican Party is and always has been a statist party. Now, Newt Gingrich is leading the Republican pack and trying to paint himself as a conservative. But Gingrich is a big-government, anti-gun insider who gamed the system for millions of dollars in lobbying fees by playing the corporatist game once he left Congress. In other words, Newt is no RINO. He’s Republican through and through, just like Romney, McCain, Giuliani, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, et al.

So Newt is no RINO. Nor is he conservative.

Filed Under: Conservative Politics, Election 2012, Freedom Watch, Hot Topics
Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • CJM

    Far as I’m concerned, Newt IS a RINO and a liar to boot. Wouldn’t vote for him if my life depended on it. If he is the candidate of choice for the Republicans, I will write in someone else…NO Romney, NO Perry, NO Gingrich, and NO Obammy, period. Bachman and Paul are just fine…at least THEY are for the American People.

    • Alex

      Michelle O’Bachmann and Ron Paul are decidedly NOT for the American people.

      • Curtis

        go back to your drugs Alex we know that your a plant on here

      • Joe H.

        Alex,
        Go tell your handlers that you came, you tried, it didn’y work, so you want your check!!! Course with YOUR effort, they might expect YOU to pay THEM!!!

      • Alex Frazier

        lol … instead of VENI, VIDI, VICI the other Alex is going to have to change his motto to VENI, VIDI, DEFECIT … “I came, I saw, I failed!”

  • Danny

    Marylin, just how much of the kool-Aid have you drank? You must have done your research using Newts autobiography for material.

  • retiredairforce

    Conservatives believe in the Constitution and the rule of law. They do not reward amnesty and work permits to those who violated our laws, borders and sovereignty in an effort to “sweep the problem under the rug” to pay back their Chamber of Commerce, Corporate and business master’s insatiable desire for cheap foreign labor. Amnesty is allowing them to remain here which is why they violated our laws, encouraging more illegal immigration across our wide open borders. Conservatives enforce the laws already on the books including the mandatory use of e-verify in all public offices to stop hundreds of billions of dollars annually in tax payer benefits for illegal aliens and by employers which would result in no jobs, tax payer benefits and subsequent voluntary deportation which is happening in Alabama, Georgia, Utah and other states from where illegal aliens are fleeing in droves to illegal alien friendly states or back to their lawless and corrupt toilets of third world countries.
    The system isn’t broken; only the will by the DC Cartel to enforce our laws is.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Conservatives are those who realize the value of looking to the inside,and not changing the fundamental rules by which they live,because of a windblown notion,or(seemingly)new idea.
      Constitutionally,Religiously,Secularly,Ethically,the list goes on.
      The comfort of a stable and known equation is the conservative ideal.

      Liberals flow with the ebb and tide,looking to the conditions outside of themselves,and seeking to adjust their lives to those perameters.
      New ideas are accepted not because they are necessarily good ideas,but because they reflect a difference in the older standards.
      By this method of thinking,they can apply whatever standards are thought to be wise,in order to effect change for whatever the situation or circumstance requires.

      Just personal observation.-CC.

  • Mountain Saint

    Sure, Obama is giving us Marxism while Newt is giving us Socialism – both men are for Socialized Medicine and the individual mandates. Both men are for Free Trade and exporting tens of millions Middle Class jobs overseas and giving 100% of our low-end jobs to the 38,000,000 illegal aliens (that’s what you would get with another amnesty, limited or not). With either man, America is doomed. Millions of us Christian Conservaties would sit out the 2012 election.

    • LES

      Therefore you support Obama, How is he working out for you ?

      • realist

        Les, He never said anything about supporting Obama. He spoke in opposition of it. Just because a person opposes YOUR choice does not make him a supporter of Obama. Your troll-like imposition of your placing choice on Obama is down right irritating.
        I agree with the OP and Ron Paul is the best choice for restoration of liberty in this country and the other choices are just not pleasant if the truth be known about them.
        Some people age giving the 2012 election a Superbowl like mentality and our country’s future is not up for grabs on a play-by-play routine. This is serious business and we need some mature leadership in the white house that cares about the future of this country and her citizens. America is not up for sale on the global block just yet and with Newt, there would be one heck of a sale. If the rest of the country woke up to that fact, there would be more attention paid to Dr Ron Paul.

      • Mountain Saint

        We are no longer voting for the lesser of two evils. Both men are Marxista and Globalists. America is doomed unless we get a real Christian leaders in there like Donald Trump or Backmann and clean up the mess.

      • Joe H.

        mountain Saint,
        you forget the BEST candidate out there–RonPaul!!! RON PAUL/ANDREW NAPOLITANO 2012!!!

    • Alex

      The term “Christian Conservative” makes NO sense. Christ would have nothing to do with Conservative politics—read the Sermon on the Mount—the words that Jesus actually had someone WRITE DOWN—not the words of men who claim to “know” him. Jesus was no Conservative.

      • Mountain Saint

        Yeshua was no Liberal. He was for the Believers, not corrupt Government, to help the poor and downtrodden.

      • mjr47

        Alex, you are right…Jesus was NO Conservative!! He threw out and chastised the “money changers” telling them that they had turned a house of worship into a den of thieves. He bravely spoke out against the corruption and evil that was rampant while he walked on this Earth!! He definitely was no coward or fearful about being politically correct!!

      • Joe H.

        Alex,
        Lost your faith? The bible was written by man, that is correct, but they were guided by GOD!! If you do not believe in God’s ability to do that, then you are of little faith!!

      • PATRIOT 101

        I think Jesus (if you were to give him a party title) would have to be a Compassionate Libertarain. He preached that people rights came for a loving God the Father. He preached (individual) not communitive compassion, so I doubt you could call him a socialist (or a democrat)!

  • Edeard

    We have the government and politicans we have now because we stood by as those who do not believe in God yelled and pressured the body of Christian believers into backing down and stopping the removal of God from our schools and government.We received just what we deseve for our cowardice. Newt Gingrichis the result of our apostasy!

  • madogdriver

    newt is a chameleon. its sad that 3 people who are really the most conservative are low in the polls. we NEED to elect a republican president, but, we NEED to replace the congress and senate with REAL conservatives so for the next election, the RINO’s and elite repubs will not have a say and a real conservative will be elected. either way, the marxist obami must go, and all his socialist minions, the sunsteins, the jackson’s, the chu’s, the nepalotan’s, the holder’s, the kagan’s and sotometer’s etc.!!
    viva la revolution!! long live the TEA PARTY!!!!

    • Joe H.

      madogdriver,
      Actually a cameleon is not slimy enough!! He’s more like an eel! Ever caught one on your line? you have to cut off part of you line cause nothing else will come near it!!

  • http://danthorntons.com Bluff Rat

    Patriot II, The only two candidates that openly support your right to bear arms are Michelle Bachman and Ron Paul.

    • Joe H.

      Bluff Rat,
      I wouldn’t bet the farm on that continuing as she also supported expanding certain parts of the patriot act!!! how long before she changes her mind “for the good of the country”??

      • http://deleted Claire

        Joe H– Well spoken. Keep it up!

      • Alex Frazier

        Agreed. I can overlook some of her superfluous campaign platforms, like fighting against gay marriage and such. But for voting yes to the Patriot Act (which Paul called the “Appeal of the 4th amendment Act”), I personally consider her a betrayer of the public trust. If a politician can vote unconstitutionally once, they can do it again.

        I like her. I like a lot of her politics. But she’s a traitor in my opinion, right along with Newt, Romney, and Santorum.

        I’d actually love to start a new movement. I don’t know what to call it yet, but it would withhold votes from any running politician who has voted for, proposed, or supported unconstitutional legislation.

        I still have to think of the particulars to make it work. But it would be a strong movement. The Tea Party changed things. This surely can do the same.

  • Common Sense

    Vote in “Ron Paul” and lets start getting the Government back to where “IT” serves the people instead of the current situation where “WE” serve the government.

  • Marilyn

    Wow, I’m just so amazed how NO ONE does their homework anymore nor can they separate fact from fiction. Newt IS NOT, I repeat, IS NOT Anti-Gun! What? Nobody can critically think anymore? Have democrats dumbdowned a whole lot of ppl? He is not BIG government, he never Lobbied! All this so called baggage is nothing but liberal leftist democrat BS! And that stupid John Birch society vid going around is nothing but propaganda. Ppl need to get out of the paranoid zone. Start w/ newt.org/answers. I’m not going to waste my time arguing w/ a bunch of ppl who bury their heads in the sand, when they can do their own footwork like I did. Newt can debate that POS we have right now in the WH and expose him for the fraud he is. But you all just want to drink the democrat liberal lefty koolaid. Reagan was an awesome President. But perhaps your kind go for Carter & Clinton. Stick w/ socialist obama, you all deserve him. DC fears Newt, that’s why they attack, and they’ve attacked Palin & Cain as well. From reading all this, I see everyone here has been bought. You sucked up the lies and that’s all you have. Best of luck to you all.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston
      • CoCowboy

        Well, So is Mitt Robme… So, There’s not a great option. AND… In case nobody is paying attention Cerberus bought up all of the Gun, Ammo and Tactical clothing companies. That was reported on Sunday.

        My peresonal experience with Cerberus is that they consolidate companies, rip them apart and bankrupt them… so much for American made guns and ammo… Oh sure, it might last a year – don’t hold your breath, but I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if Obama himself set this crap up!

        Dan Quayle is the CEO of that division of Cerberus. UNFORTUNATELY, On Tuesday, Ole Danny boy endorsed Mitt “I hate guns” Robme… oops, I meant O’Romney

        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/04/BUJ91M4HL0.DTL

        At least Newt has stated on video within the past year that he supports the 2nd amendment.

      • Alex Frazier

        With all due respect, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), while speaking in the floor debate for the National Reciprocity Act HR822, was sure to mention that she supported the second amendment. But she’s the biggest anti-gun fanatic around. She’d repeal the second amendment without losing a wink of sleep over it, and her oath of office be damned.

        What they say isn’t as telling as what they do. They all claim to support the constitution, but if they all really did, there are a number of bills that not only wouldn’t have passed, but that wouldn’t have even come to a vote. If they really respected the constitution, such bills wouldn’t have even been written in the first place.

      • Txblkjack

        She stated where she got her information.

    • CJM

      So you are a strong supporter of Newt, Marilyn? Fine—however, he is NOT my choice. All the flowery platitudes you provide on his behalf is sickening–Newt’s biggest problem is his ability to speak with a forked tongue. All the candidates that are worthy of the Presidency on the RNC/GOP end have effectively been (character) assassinated by the media pimps who still view obammy as their messiah. When 2012 comes along, my vote goes to either Bachman or Paul…the rest of those dolts can just quit and go home.

    • CJM

      I noticed your comment on Reagan–no he was NOT an awesome President; he had alzheimer’s even as the governor of CA (he certainly destroyed the social services there: the police, mental health care, social work, et al). Don’t come up with the crap that he didn’t have alzheimers either–you don’t leave office and 3 months later announce you are in the tertiary (end) stage of the illness. It takes a considerable amount of time to get to that point. Who ran the government while Ron Raegan was ill? Nancy had quite a bit to say in the affairs–but there were some select few who did assist her in the decisions. Raegan’s other son had it right: daddy did have alzheimers and the Republican Party knew it–that’s as unforgiveable as obammy’s forged birth certificates and the DNC knowing he is NOT a US citizen.

      • Alex Frazier

        Maybe that’s why his spending increased in the last years. Maybe he wasn’t making the decisions. He started his administration trying to cut spending and reduce government. He ended his administration doing the exact opposite.

        Maybe he was losing it by the end.

        *shrug*

    • Mountain Saint

      Marilyn, there are tons of damaging statements made by Newt over the last forty years that would come back to haunt him if he were to become the nominee…He was all for nationalizing the health industry (individual mandates and all) and that makes him a Socialist…He was fined and reprimanded for his scandals as speaker and that makes him a corrupt politician…He has been flip flopping on almost all of the issues and that makes him an opportunist with no conservative credentials…etc etc Quit calling us Conservatives, Independents and Patriots Democrats just because we are telling the world the truth about Newt. The Democrats will devastate the Republicans if Newt gets the nomination. We are trying to prevent this disaster.

    • Mushin

      Marilyn – You are either a liar and a shill or illiterate and misinformed. I tend to believe the former over the latter my dear. Perhaps you receive your salary in exchange for finding discussions such as this one and trying to sway public opinion with your inane comments.

      Please understand your rhetoric will NOT buy you any purchase to you argument here….most of us posting know the truth about your candidate and YOU will not change the minds of the informed and educated.

    • Joe H.

      Marilyn, This is the second time tonight that Bob has posted these sites, I suggest this time you CHECK THEM OUT!!! Salamander Man IS anti-gun!!!

  • dee

    I will NOT vote for Newt…he is a progressive through and through!

    If we end up with Gingrich, Romney or Perry, the only change we’ll see is maybe a slowing down of the train wreck, but I’m not even so sure about that. They are ALL progressives.

    All I hear is how this next presidential election will be the most pivotal moment of our time. Hog wash is what I say, the most pivotal moment of our time IS going to be the Republican primary election and we couldn’t be more fractured. Friends think this through and through…if we keep electing what we’ve been electing, we’re going to keep right on getting what we’ve been getting. It’s the MOST literal meaning of insanity…keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    The most pivotal election of our time IS the Republican primary. I actually believe Obama can be beat, but if it’s Gingrich, Romney or Perry, our country still loses…BIG time. If we keep on electing what we’ve been electing, we’re going to keep on getting what we’ve been getting…I N S A N I T Y!

    Dear God, my prayer to you…please send us another George Washington, please! Oh, and btw, as YOU know, we need this miracle like yesterday. Dear God, I know we can do better than Gingrich, Romney or Perry, please show us the way…please!

    • Pepper

      Your prayer has already been answered, however the hearts of many have been hardened to not hear the message. There is a man who predicted the current financial crisis, who has been telling us what needs to be done for 30 years and people have not been listening.

      You ask for another George Washington. I submit that were George Washington reincarnated and put on the ballot, he would meet the same baseless opposition as Ron Paul.

      • http://www.johnvolz.com Johnny in the Pedros

        They would be saying “I like George Washington’s ideas, but his foreign policy scares the hell out of me.”

        Sound familiar?

      • Buddy

        George Washington’s foreign policy position is a comfortable position. What is really scary is the position of the warfare supporters who chant, “Bomb Iran”.

        Well, I guess warfare is good for some business so some group profits from war, eh, Daddy WARbucks?

      • Cawmun Cents

        If there were no implied threats in this case I could agree with you.
        But would you rather that Iran bomb us first?
        Just asking.
        I am reminded of the idealists who tried to keep us from joining the war effort in Europe,circa 1939-1941.
        Hitler was not a threat to the United States.
        Why?
        Because there was this huge ocean and we had all these resources,the thought just did not seem tenable.
        However with the advent of the atomic age,these thoughts are suicidal.
        Just one bomb,or possibly two,as we have noticed of historical note,causes surrender.
        We assume that we will know where a bomb comes from,but that is not necessarily the case.So if a bomb explodes here,and we cannot sufficiently ascertain the source,what do we then do?
        Point the finger at who we think may have done it?
        This iswhy we cannot let these people buid nuclear weapons.
        We simply cannot be certain that they will not give them to a group that we cannot charge with their use.
        Hello,McFly…..is this getting through?-CC.
        -CC.

      • Joe H.

        cawmun Cents,
        you forgetting that they captured a german U-boat off the northeast coast of the US??

      • JC

        Cawmun Cents says:
        December 7, 2011 at 10:24 am
        If there were no implied threats in this case I could agree with you.
        But would you rather that Iran bomb us first?
        Just asking.

        How do you imagine them doing that? And what makes Iran particularly special in that department? America has her share of nuclear capable enemies and they’re loudmouths too.

        And besides, don’t you feel “secure” knowing the TSA is strip searching old ladies with walker’s? Nobody is going to get a nuke past those dedicated professionals.

      • dave

        Beloved GW would not have played the system for 30 years. Bringing home the bacon he put in a bill, then voting against the pork ladden bill. How and why do you think he continued to be re-elected? Everybody likes the bacon but cries about the pork, so play the game. Ron Pol-itician plays it very well. He is not in the same state, much less the ball park, as GW. Do your reshearch, he is gaming you and the system.

      • Joe H.

        dave,
        I call bull$hit when I see it and that was pure unadulterated BULL$HIT!!! Admit it, you don’t know a dam thing about R. Paul, do you?? you just spout the things that your handlers tell you to, right???

      • Alex Frazier

        dave, if you took the finer qualities of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Andrew Jackson, you’d have a nice composite of the man Ron Paul tries to be.

        People against Ron Paul are against freedom, the constitution, and the United States, because that’s what the man stands for. The rest of the candidates are for policies that erode our freedom, our trade, our money, and our national prosperity.

      • JC

        dave, Until you can provide solid examples of what you are trying to say…just go away.

  • Alex Frazier

    Something I have found of rather interesting note …

    Everywhere I go, I see ‘Ron Paul 2012!’, and yet, the polls constantly show Romney, or one of his competitors (Perry, Newt, Bachman, Cain) as being in the lead, or right on his tail.

    At some of the debates when they would switch over to some off site place to take a question, there were always Ron Paul signs in the background.

    When I talk to people, I’ve yet to find anyone who would even consider voting for Romney, and those who have been slowly coming around to the opinion that Newt is an option know absolutely nothing about him.

    As best as I can tell, Ron Paul is the candidate of choice. People everywhere I go are for him. No one I’ve met is ‘for’ the other candidates, even if they’re against Ron Paul.

    So where the heck do all these poll numbers keep coming from? What retards are out there voting for Romney? How is Newt picking up steam when anyone who is even mildly active in politics knows that he’s as bad as Obama?

    I know that I haven’t been polled! In fact, every time a debate comes on, the websites give you the option to cast your vote, but I’ve spend forty-plus minutes each time just trying to figure out how to get signed on to do so. My vote never gets tallied.

    When I daydream about confronting the candidates one on one, I envision asking Romney, Gingrich, Bachman, and Santorum what makes them think they have the right to even be running, since they are proven betrayers of the public trust. They have all voted for unconstitutional legislation, and have thereby violated their oaths of office and betrayed the people. I envisioned asking Cain why he wanted to raise my taxes to a little over 40% of my income. I envision telling Newt that he’s a traitor, and to get off the stage.

    But when I think about Ron Paul, what I actually feel is that I’m part of something greater than myself. It’s an odd sensation, actually. There’s an attachment that makes me feel like I could ask him to lunch, or to have him over for dinner with me and the wife.

    There are plenty of folks who are simply naive or ignorant of real politics, economics, war and foreign policy. I’m happy to correct their opinionated, unfactual points of view. But apart from the few nay-sayers out there, I just don’t understand why anyone but Paul is soaring in the polls.

    Ron Paul or Bust!

    • http://www.johnvolz.com Johnny in the Pedros

      Here’s one poll where he’s soaring -

      http://www.topix.com/issue/fox/gop-debate-aug11

      It’s still open too, so hurry up Gingrich and Romney fans, it isn’t too late to give your support and change the results of this poll! LOL

      It’s actually a pretty neat poll that shows results by geographical area.

      • Helen2

        My city voted for Ron Paul 55 to 8!! Yay for Vancouver Washington.

      • JC

        Awesome! Go Ron Paul!

    • Buddy

      You’re correct. It’s Ron Paul or bust, and I think it’s more likely that it will be bust because, as you observe, most voters are naive and/or ignorant.

      My wife wants to contribute to Ron Paul’s campaign. However, I think we’ll get a better return by contributing to our conservative senator’s campaign. A conservative senate may be able to moderate the “progressive” road the USA is on.

      • http://www.johnvolz.com Johnny in the Pedros

        why not split the contribution between the two?

      • Alex Frazier

        Buddy, I’m in a similar boat. I contributed some when the need was dire, but I’m cautious about contributing too much unless I see the campaign pick up some steam. If I had the money to throw away, I’d gladly send more without reservation. If Paul gets the nomination, I’ll send anything I can afford, knowing that he has a real chance. But I’m holding off for the time being. I don’t have a lot of money to spend, so I’d rather spend it where it will do some worthwhile good, beyond the mere principle.

      • Joe H.

        Alex F.
        I have already dug deep for R. Paul and will do so again! He is the only one who actuallyWANTS to get us out of this quagmire we are in! I believe witha little congressional help, he WILL!!

    • dave

      Ron Paul is just another insider, for crying out loud. He plays the politics well. He puts pork for his district into a bill then turns around, knowing full well that a bill will be passed, and votes against it. That is decietful, or better stated outright lying. Very unprincipaled but very political. How long has he been in congress? He is a career politcian not the saviour you make him out to be. I could vote for him the way most would vote for nitwit or romney care, plugging my nose. Santorum and Bachman seem to be principaled people, not perfect, but speak thier values and live pretty close to them. No Nit(wit)no Romney Care no Ron Pol-itician.

      • Alex Frazier

        Please provide some hard facts. It’s not true just because you say so. My research has shown otherwise.

      • Joe H.

        dave,
        Proof talks, bull$hit walks!! Show me the proof!! Ialready know you won’t because you can’t prove a lie!!

    • skippy

      Everyone I have ever talked to about 2008 election did not vote for Obama either…BUT he’s still there………go figure…….

    • Joe H.

      Alex Frazier,
      quit worrying about Cain, he’s GONE!!!

      • Alex Frazier

        I’m not worried about Cain. I was only making the point that he soared in the polls.

        Although, to hear Cain tell it, he’s not goin’ away. So we might have to worry about his regressive tax hike in the future.

    • Wendell

      Alex f. Do you get tingles down your leg when you think about Paul. Kind of like the MSNBC newcasters do when they talk or think about obama. lol

  • JB

    There no saints, no saviors, no individuals with all the answers or right moves – - and anybody expecting one to come along to save us is foolish.
    Party politics is downright stupid – more like tribalism or racism – -
    No political party (nor any member of one) has ever been a source of integrity or intelligence. What’s needed is a flushing of that DC toilet – complete and regular, if cleanup is to occur. Much change is required, and intelligent voters establish term limits at every election. Career, incumbent, for-sale, corrupted, elected elite politicians got us here (bankrupt and dependent).

  • http://Personalliberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    Newt Gingrich is crooked and also, a hypocrite. I mean the man took $
    100 million from lobbyist , especially 2 million from Freddy Mac. In addition, his wife spent $750,000.00 in a shopping spree at Tiffany’s
    jewelry store at tax payers expense. Finally, he was forced to resign from congress in the late 1990′s because of ethic charges. Thus, if he gets the nomination it will be time to vote third party. Thanks!!

    • skippy

      Yep, that’s right Tony. He was one of those that was writing checks from an account with NO money in it..remember???. “House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don’t, because he bounced 22 himself, which almost cost him reelection in 1992.”

      • Lastmanstanding

        almost…only counts in horseshoes and hand gernades…people are so [comment has been edited] up that they still vote for these guys…and politicians like newt, bushes, clinton, obama, etc…Know it and count on it.

      • Buddy

        People just have to vote! It’s called Democracy (with a big D).

        And how’s Democracy been working out for the USA during the past 80 years?

      • skippy

        hey buddy….we are a republic…right??? not a democracy….

      • DaveH

        The MSM propaganda machine has worked its magic well.

      • Joe H.

        Gee skippy, is there a difference? JUST KIDDING!!! Just trying out for a part where I play a libbie!! LOL!!

  • Warrior

    We need a game changer…. Hmmm….I know, how about Ron Paul. In fact, as one surveys the situation of one party rule, how on earth could you vote for anyone else? I say, go Paul or just go back to sleep.

  • http://heisco.net Patriot II

    Bob, I would like to see your proof of Newt being Anti-Gun, can you provide your sources on that?

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston
      • CoCowboy

        Well, So is Mitt Robme… So, There’s not a great option. AND… In case nobody is paying attention Cerberus bought up all of the Gun, Ammo and Tactical clothing companies. That was reported on Sunday.

        My peresonal experience with Cerberus is that they consolidate companies, rip them apart and bankrupt them… so much for American made guns and ammo… Oh sure, it might last a year – don’t hold your breath, but I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if Obama himself set this crap up!

        Dan Quayle is the CEO of that division of Cerberus. UNFORTUNATELY, On Tuesday, Ole Danny boy endorsed Mitt “I hate guns” Robme… oops, I meant O’Romney

        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/04/BUJ91M4HL0.DTL

        At least Newt has stated on video within the past year that he supports the 2nd amendment.

      • http://www.johnvolz.com Johnny in the Pedros

        The following link defines his positions, with sources, on the Second Amendment among other things:

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1461049

        I’m not a terribly religious person, but the words “By their fruits shall you know them,” comes to mind.

        Not. Even. Worth. Trying.

      • CoCowboy

        It doesn’t change the truth of what I just posted regarding Cerberus. Ignore at your own peril.

      • Joe H.

        CoCowboy,
        What we need is for some of the conservative money holders to buy up a couple of the companies or open their OWN!!! What good are guns if there is no ammunition or powder???

      • DaveH

        Newt says? Exactly, CoCowboy. We need people in there who don’t just say …..
        We need people in the political positions who actually do what they say. Like Ron Paul.

      • JC

        Cowboy, doesn’t matter what Newt “says”. He wants gun owners fingerprinted and put into a data base.

        As for Cerebrus…thanks for the head’s up.
        All the more reason to stockpile.

      • Lastmanstanding

        Thanks Bob…only Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann are endorsing our right to bear arms…

      • DaveH

        Don’t forget Gary Johnson. I know — Who?

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        Don’t forget that Gary Johnson supports same sex marriage! he will never get elected with that. At least Ron Paul has said it belongs to the states to decide!!

      • DaveH

        Joe,
        There’s a difference between believing Government has no business in same-sex marriage and “supporting” same-sex marriage.

      • DaveH

        Here are Gary’s actual feelings on that subject:
        http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/governor-gary-johnson-announces-support-for-gay-marriage

        So technically I was wrong, but I was thinking “support” as in “promote”.
        That being said, men live together and do who knows what together, so what is the big deal if they have a ceremony and a contract? How do they hurt us? Personally, I don’t understand why they’d want to get married and legally entangled, but then it’s really none of my business.

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        All I said was he couldn’t get elected because of that. I didn’ say a word about business.

    • Scott in SC

      Here is a direct quote from Newt almost 15 years ago:

      “I think we prefer to go to instant check on an immediate basis and try to accelerate implementing instant checks so that you could literally check by thumbprint… Instant check is a much better system than the Brady process.” — June 27, 1997

      He is a supporter of a national gun registry which history has shown without exception to be a pre-cursor to an outright ban on guns for the citizenry.

  • Steve Cassidy

    I have to agree with Billythekid. Gingrich is definitely not my first choice however having witnessed socialiem at work twice in my life I can assure you no one should have to live under Obamas’ socialist regime.

    • http://heisco.net Patriot II

      Steve, I tend to agree with you, except if Newt is really run by the Globalist Elite, just like Obama, his mission is to destroy America the way we know it, and is a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing just like Obama.

      If that is the case then I pray for Jesus to come soon, and Judge the greedy elite and pour out his Wrath on them for their sins against humanity.

      • Lastmanstanding

        “if newt…wake up.”

  • PATRIOT 101

    Anyone that doesn’t trust me with MY guns is someone I don’t want in the White House signing executive orders!
    This newt needs exposed as the big govt., globalist that he is.

  • skippy

    Politics AND politicians ALL need one huge enema…and that include Washington DC overall.

    • Joe H.

      skippy,
      The EPA won’t allow that! Can you immagine the pollution?????

  • skippy

    Oh GREAT…just what I really want….an ANTI-GUN prez. Sure, that will work. I have to agree with Billythekid…I will GAG…but dear Lord…can the Reps not come up with a REAL person??!!…

    • Lastmanstanding

      Skippy…you must get out of the right-left thing.

      NONE of them are real people…none of them live like we do…Look at everything that they do and WHERE THEY DO IT.

      Ron Paul may be our only hope…and don’t forget some faith in God

      • Joe H.

        Lastmanstanding,
        Amen and roger that on the faith in God!!!!

  • Cincinnatus

    Newt is very smart and has a great deal of knowledge about history and politics.

    That said he would be better in a classroom than the white house. I can not and will not vote for him because he is essentially Obama light.

    My guess is that Newt is the lead whipping boy now and will drop in the polls leaving the republican machine’s favorite boy – Romney to take the lead. Romney is worse than Obama because Obama at least defends his own healthcare plan.

    • LES

      So you want Obama back in you must think he is working out well !!

      • Lastmanstanding

        What he/she is saying is that once Newt is in he will continue obamas communist assault on freedom…Have you noticed how elections bounce back and forth for decades and things only get worse…no matter who is in?

        They all lie with one goal in mind…a one (new) world order.

      • DaveH

        That is because it is human nature for the most sociopathic individuals to gravitate to Power positions. And even normal people want as much as they can get. So even if Politicians were normal people they would still lean towards feathering their own nests. Ron Paul and a few others are rare exceptions to that.
        As Thomas Jefferson said “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground”.

        This is what I’m talking about:
        http://www.whale.to/b/callahan1.html

    • Txblkjack

      I will not vote for Romney. Period.
      This deep division in our ranks is why We the People lost 2008.
      The Independents are a large voting block that voted for Obama.

      • DaveH

        And the almost fanatical resignment of the voters to vote for the lesser of two evils, because that lesser evil is perceived to be the best hope for winning, instead of voting for Principle, is the reason we have been doomed to sitting idly by decade after decade while our Government grows ever larger.
        Break the Mold. Vote for Principle. Vote for Ron Paul!

    • eddie47d

      Cincinnatus is trying to say that Obama has made mistakes but stands on his own principles. Ron Paul also stands on his own principles. The rest of the lot (including Newt) changes their minds monthly depending which way the wind is blowing. Newt is also the godfather of NAFTA and we got snockered on that one.

      • Joe H.

        eddie,
        I thought you said you didn’t defend Abummer?? I guess this is number 31!!!

  • Monte

    Both parties seek to deliver us to a leftist hell. The differences are how they plan to get us there. What exists to deter this? No conservative party exists. There is no opposition. To accept this is to accept the seriousness of our situation.

    • Lastmanstanding

      The are all progressives bought and paid for by the wealthest people on the earth…the bankers who run the govts. their goal is to take our freedom and enslave us.

      No money of value, no rights, no say, no property, no guns…

      Vote Ron Paul 2012…”live free or die.” the only option for me.

    • DaveH

      Arghh, Monte. There is a Truly Conservative party — the Libertarian Party. If you study the issues you will see that our beliefs very much parallel those of Thomas Jefferson.

  • BillMJC

    If Newt is the Republican candidate, I will write-in anyone else than either Obama or Newt. I will not vote for either. Both parties have become corrupt and sadly there is no other choice. Almost all Senators and Congress persons should be made to retire!!

    • Brenda Choate

      Writing someones name gives your vote to Obama. Not a good option. As to retirement of congress, vote them out of office. No politician will willingly step aside. If they do not perform, find another candidate and replace them at the ballot box. Stop letting the candidate with the most money or support of newspapers and unions be reelected.

      • Danny

        Brenda, we will never vote them out. With all the evidence against Gingrich and Romney, and the fact that these two are even on the ballot speaks volumes that the American people STILL have their head up their – - -. They (you) are still letting the media elect your candidate for you. Do your research (not on TV) and it is as plain as day how corrupt these two men are

      • rjim

        And if we can change the Senate and keep the House, we can impeach Obama. That better that placing Obama the 2nd in their. I also call him John McCain the 2nd.

        We have to take chances and risks. We have no real choice any more. We need to vote 3rd party or what ever. Doing the same thing over and over will not fix the situation. The elected Tea Party folks have not been able to change things either. I’m am very disappointed in them.

      • LES

        There is not enough Tea Party members to really make a difference at this time and they do not have enough seniority yet to be effective.
        A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama, how is he working out for you ?

      • amarq

        You will discover that your globalist masters care less wither you are blue or red. You have already bought the story line…try not to swallow the hook.

      • DaveH

        Actually, Obama is working out well for us. Thanks partly to the Internet, Obama has awakened more Americans to the concepts of Freedom than any President in my lifetime. One more term of Obama and we’ll either be done for, or prepared to set this country on the track to Freedom that we haven’t seen for a couple of hundred years.
        If instead, McCain had been elected, the sheeple would have continued slumbering as the Government grew less perceptibly towards our eventual complete collapse.

      • JC

        Exactly right DaveH. Obama is the fuel for America’s awakening.
        When he was elected the US saw a spike in firearms sales unmatched in history. “Knowing” we have a Globalist traitor in the White House may well be our salvation. We need that anger, we need that “fuel”.
        Believing we have a Patriot in the form of Gingrich or the equivalent
        will simply put us on the road to complacency again, the road to ruin.
        If not a genuinely Constitutional American, I’d almost rather see the the Kenyan continue to fuel the fire, because we need that “fire”.

      • Joe H.

        Brenda,
        If enough of us write in RON PAUL, then how is it a vote for ABUMMER?? Get up off your bum and TALK to people, go door to door, Print up fliers with quotes from Dr. Paul with sites to back them up and drop them door to door in your neighborhood!! People need to get out, off their lazy bums and SUPPORT the man as that is the only way we are going to get the word out about him!! Make his name a household name!!!

      • Vic Bailey

        I agree again John H. The Socialist Media wants us to elect another Monkey on a chain, they want the Elitist to keep the rule over the people when the people own the government not the government own the people. Somewhere along the line the government has made us believe that they own everything when it is actually the people that own EVERYTHING, even the government and when the government doesn’t do what the people want, we have the right to disolve the non-working government and start a NEW WORKING government. AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS “NO” SAY IN THE MATTER!!!!! Semper Fi.

    • DaveH

      How many times do I have to say this? There IS a choice. And in fact that choice has always trumped what the Democrats and Republicans have to offer. Vote Libertarian! For those who believe but don’t want to “throw away” their votes, then donate to help us grow. But actually the “thrown away” votes are those voted for the lesser of two evils, because we can never achieve a Great Government unless we vote for Great Politicians (like Ron Paul).
      The Establishment Politicians and their Crony Capitalists will do everything to stop the Libertarians because Free Markets and Limited Government will upset the apple-carts of both groups. They like their secure positions over the rest of us, and they don’t like the vagaries of Free Markets where the consumers are king, anybody can rise to the top, and they (the Crony Capitalists) don’t have the protection of Big Government.
      Read the book “The Big Ripoff: How Big Business and Big Government Steal your Money” to learn how even regulations are designed to help certain politically-favored businesses at the expense of their non-political competitors, their customers, and the taxpayers.

  • Billythekid

    I DO NOT TRUST Newt. He is the poster boy for the typical Washington insider. He’s a DC lifer! He’s anti gun, a global warming believer, and thinks he’s the smartest man in the room, every room, all the time. If I MUST,I’ll gag, but I will even vote for this guy to get rid of ‘Obama the incompetent’.

    • CR

      Well said. Newt would be no better than Obama maybe worse as he is smarter. The only true conservative and the only candidate with a chance of saving this country is Ron Paul!!

      • chris

        He looks deeply unhappy and out of shape. Oh and takes bribes according to Ron Paul.

      • DaveH

        Emotionally troubled people tend to eat to assuage their guilt, sorrow, or whatever it is that is troubling them.

    • chris

      I don’t trust him either. He looks like a christian school teacher, I had. Mrs Conner was an authoritarian, who later slashed her own wrists.

      • libertytrain

        The poor soul. I feel pity for her.

  • Iris

    If he becomes the candidate, he will be MY candidate. I live in AZ and will have little to say about who becomes the candidate. If I had my way, the parties would ALL have to vote for a candidate on the same day nationwide…for a REAL choice. I would also like to see donations to candidates stop at the border of each state if the issue being voted on is an in-state issue. Other factions have no more right to interfere within a state than does Russia.

    • wandamurline

      If he becomes the candidate, then I will support him with all my might because I want to remove Obama and his corrupt czars and cabinet and Holder from office. Right now, Gingrich is not my pick, but I would rather have four years of Gingrich than another four years of Obama who has undermined our freedoms with TSA, refused to protect America from the Mexican invasion, declared war on Libya against the Constitution, declared class warfare and done more to distant us by race than any president ever…he has undone what it took Dr. King and others to put into place in a little under three years. He has made a mockery of America by bowing to foreign dignitaries and apologizing for America….we have nothing to apologize for, my husband a veteran of three wars and my dad a veteran of WWII did nothing to be ashamed of, and they deserve our thanks, not digust as this president shows them. Obama hates America and Michelle hates white people, and quite frankly, America is on the verge of collasp and we simply cannot afford another four years of a lame duck Obama. Vote in 2012 like your very life depends on it, because it literally does…the life you know now and the freedomes you have can be taken away without a fight, don’t forget that.

      • Brian

        In other words you just prefer a new dictator.

      • Mushin

        Yes Brian, this IS what their saying – these foolish women know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THEIR CANDIDATE and likely, both voted for Barry Sotoro in the last election {and right about now their both saying “Barry WHO”?

        Sadly ladies you are both a prime example of what Bush calls “The Sheep”.

      • GIVEMEFREEDOM

        Sadly Mushin you’re full of crap and don’t know it.
        It’s “conservatives” like you that think only YOU have the correct answer to who’s the best Republican candidate.
        Everyone here has their right to choose based on their OWN values.
        Quit your bitchin.

      • Mushin

        GIVEMEFREEDOM says:
        December 7, 2011 at 11:40 am
        Sadly Mushin you’re full of crap and don’t know it.
        It’s “conservatives” like you that think only YOU have the correct answer to who’s the best Republican candidate.
        Everyone here has their right to choose based on their OWN values.
        Quit your bitchin.

        Well “GIVEMEFREEDOM”, if conservatives like me were as f*cking imbecilic as liberals like you we wouldn’t be living in a police state where our Constitutional rights are quickly disappearing, our economy is crumbling and we have become slaves to our own government!

        Personally, I don’t give a damn who takes office, so long as they embody and hold dear the ideals of our forefathers, hold dear our sovereignty and our God given rights to freedom!

        Do YOU know of any candidate whose past actions and speech has been consistent and kept his oath to uphold the Constitution of America and not the corporation “The United States”?!

        Do you even know the DIFFERENCE?! Do you know why the area around Washington is called “The District of Columbia”!? You jack*ass, YOU better do some research of your own and when you do, you’ll find out that your and your progeny are just slaves owned body and soul by the “United States”….and all they have ever wanted is what they’ve got from you – a mindless slave living inside a “Matrix”!

      • Vigilant

        Mushin,

        You would do well to actually read the complete District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871, instead of relying on propaganda sources that claim we are USA, Inc.

        The act did for the municipality of DC what a thousand communities across the US did: they incorporated for purposes of conducting business with the legal and liability safeguards of a corporation, nothing else.

        The District of Columbia is indeed incorporated. The United States is not.

      • amarq

        I refuse to vote for anyone because they may or may not be the “lesser of evils”…evil is evil. You and other complacent sheeple like you are in fact the problem. With out you, we woulden’t have them!

      • DaveH

        yep.

      • Joe H.

        amarq,
        I will vote for R. Paul in the primaries, If he is the candidate, I will vote for him, if he isn’t the candidate, I will write RON PAUL on my paper ballot!! To those of you that wouldn’t, get ready for the shaft, as salamander man and all the rest will just be Abummer lite!!!

      • Vic Bailey

        I’m with you John H. I’ll do as I did in the last election, just because the American people are STUPID doesn’t mean I have to be, I want to save America from the hordes of the people that want to destroy her, so, “Ron Paul or NOT AT ALL”! Semper Fi.

      • http://www.motorcarsfinancial.com Brad

        I agree with you 1000%. Obama has got to go!!

      • JC

        wandamurline says:
        December 7, 2011 at 8:10 am
        If he becomes the candidate, then I will support him with all my might because I want to remove Obama and his corrupt czars and cabinet and Holder from office. Right now, Gingrich is not my pick, but I would rather have four years of Gingrich than another four years of Obama who has undermined our freedoms…

        Wanda, a lot of what you refer to started under Bush. The Kenyan campaigned on hope and change and won because people were so tired of Bush and his anti-American policies. And naturally the change was for the worse because Bush and the Kenyan are both Globalists. So was Clinton etc…
        Romney and Gingrich are bought and paid for Globalists as well, so don’t expect anything to get any better with one of those two in the White House. The fact is the main stream Republican candidates will hurt us even more because most of actually think they are trustworthy and will undo what the Kenyan has done.
        They won’t, they’re just part of the same dog and pony show that is meant to destroy America. Go Ron Paul or we will have no choice but to lock and load…and nobody wants to see that happen.

        So right after you vote for or write in Ron Paul on your ballot
        head out and get some ammuntion and wait and see…

    • Joe H.

      Iris,
      well said, that procedure is used to get who the want in and not who the people want or need!!! It SHOULD be decided by all on the same day as the election is!

  • s c

    Whatever The Newt is, I need him around in politics like I need to be neck-deep in utopians. Both options s u c k.

    • http://Facebook Elizabeth Cristiani

      Obama has the US in Quiremire – Newt will pull the US “UP” and out of the deep/sinking situation Obama has thrown us into – do You want to become a Kenya??????

      • http://drgerni.com JBG

        With Newt it will be the same…business as usual…just like bush/clinton/bush/obama. Mr. Anti Gun

      • Think about it

        Amen to that

      • amarq

        The frying pan or the fire. You prefer a different Lier and Chief? A vote for Newt is a vote for a police state devoit fo constitutional freedoms, a vote for the globalists, likely the last vote you will ever be allowed to cast. Its time to wake up!

      • Fubert Bar

        Newt would certainly be a better choice than obama, …. but only marginally. Certainly, anyone’s better than obama, but Newt is still big government, and would only slow the decline. What we need is someone to lead us in a complete 180 turn from the direction we’re heading.
        ………….. Vote Ron Paul

      • Edward Chandler

        Anyone would be better than Obama,we could take some one out of a mental institution,out them in the white house and we would be better off than being governed by this Muslim and his gang of gangsters

      • Brian

        THAT is what I’m talking about!

      • bob wire

        Well Sir, you are entitled to your opinion but Newt is not good for anyone or anything other then Newt. It was Newt and conservatives friend( with the help of a few democrats) that are largely responsible for today’s affairs and had us miring for 11 years in a Wars to Nowhere.

        Newt separates himself for the rest of the republican “RINO” field by being a Carpet bagging, Snake in the Grass that would steal money out of his grandmother’s purse while knowing he’d get caught at it.

        My personal opinion of “O” is much higher then that.

      • Fred

        That makes you a mOron by yOur Own admission!!!

      • Joe H.

        bob wire, name one true conservative that helped salamander man!!! Just because they have an “R” before their name does NOT make them conservatives! I know you have had this explained to you before. Thick skulled:???

      • DaveH
      • amagi

        Yes, DaveH, now we are talking ! Thank you.

      • http://www.foundersrevolution.net Patriot1776

        What’s with this “anybody but Obama” talk that conservatives chastized liberal’s for when they said “anybody but Bush”? When the Libs said the same thing, conservatives seemed to understand the folly of this type of thinking. How it is what leads to dictators, power seekers, and genocidal maniacs. How it is a dangerous way to think….Suddenly conservatives are using the same thinking as the libs? Just substitute the name. Let’s think before we vote. I am not saying Obama isn’t dangerous….I am saying to go with “whoever can beat Obama is a game we shouldn’t play because we might end up with someone worse.

      • June

        Fubart-you said “anyone would be better than obama”; you are mistaken; I can think of several who would be just as bad, or even “worse” – -starting with “billary clintonista”!

      • JayP

        Newt is a Globalist which means he favors global government as evidenced by many of his votes and beliefs and one example in particular, his support of the Climate Change agenda with Nancy Pelosi. Submitting to Climate Change legilation puts us under the the authority of the UN, another step to being under a global government.
        Vote for Newt if you want to give up US Sovereignty.

      • APN

        Newt has stated numerous times that this was one of his biggest mistakes he’s ever made. When asked in Greenville, SC, did he believe in Global Warming, he answered “We don’t know”. The fact is, WE DO NOT know and anyone who says otherwise are politically motivated…..simple as that.

      • Joe H.

        APN,
        What you say only serves to further prove that Salamander Man flip-flops as thepressure dictates!

      • APN

        JoeH,, In the past your comments seem to echo a person of reason not a thought process driven by emotional content. What I said was FACTUAL and to the point, nothing more or less.

        I clearly understand the fact that you do not like Newt, however, that means nothing to me, as far as my opinion of this man.

        In fact, I have followed him for YEARS and have many issues with him. I also have MANY issues with Ron Paul.

      • JC

        APN going by your post, it seems Newt isn’t very consistent. Didn’t he make a commercial with Pelosi endorsing the Global Warming propoganda? So which is it, he’s sensible and understands the hoax. or he’s for sale to the highest bidder?

        I don’t trust the guy in anything he says or does.

      • APN

        As I said, he clearly stated that this was a big mistake. Do you mean to tell me that a person should be excluded as a candidate for making mistakes? If so, I guess the only man standing would be Ron Paul or has he ever made a mistake?

        Do you make mistakes or have you changed your opinion on an issue before? I know I certainly have. In fact, after a 1/2 century of life, my stand has changed on many many issues.

        Is Newt the same guy he was back in the 90′s? I don’t think so, he has matured and is an elderly statesman that understands what needs to be done to get this nation back on the right track and moving again. i.e.; Economic productivity

      • JC

        APN, you’re right everyone makes mistakes.
        But Newt has made a habitt of endorsing anti-American policies.
        See the “partial” list I posted below. The actual list was so long Mr. Livingston shortened it by about half.
        No Newt is Good Newt. ;)

      • APN

        Well JC…Show me a candidate that can defeat AMABO and you have my attention. Please do not suggest Ron Paul, it ain’t going to happen, my friend.

      • JC

        APN, The only thing slowing down Ron Paul is a globalist/banker controlled media. And if not Ron Paul with his impeccably Constitutional morals and a career of choices that back that up, I would say, better to have Obama. At least the Kenyan might inspire Americans to a the level of anger and righteous indignation necessary to spark some real change. A RINO will only placate a certain portion of the center/right and have us on another path of lies and the road to globalism. I want American sovereignty back and I don’t see that coming from Newt or Mitt. Those guys are bought and paid for.

      • APN

        JC, ALL politicians are bought an paid for! Always have been and always will be. The only thing that will change Washington is you and I, not a politician.

      • theodorej

        OooNgohah…. Mooboota… We already are … Just take a look at who is running the school systems,police departments and majority of mayors…enough is enough …. let us means test every person in a position of authority… This testing should be conducted on an interlectual level with an emphasis on character… This affirmative action crap has littered our federal,state and local governments with gross incompetence….

      • Gman

        Dear Theodore: Maybe if the people had instigated your philosophy BEFORE all of the amazingly SMART people of the majority had run this country into the GROUND, someone from the ignorant minority might have a snowball’s chance in the great big “H” to rectify the situation that our country is in. But alas, we need more ANGLO’S to come in and fix the situation that only “they” could “intellectualize” upon in the first place. After all, the only thing a minority is good for is doing the “dirty” work, like building this country from the ground up. Anglo’s have always had a very bad habit of abandoning things in the pursuit of self aggrandizement. Look at the empty buildings all across America. Once a powerful testament to capitalism, then suddenly left behind because the potential to make money dried up. How come you guys don’t heed the words of the Father that you say you trust in ? “In God we trust” is on our money. But you don’t trust in God. You trust in the person who has the most money, and you continually seek to be that person over all else. The Bible says that “the love of money is the root of all evil”. No wonder we’re in the mess we’re in. The politician with the most money usually wins the election. Do most people get their money by looking out for and being fair concerning the other guy ? You great American thinkers need to wise up, consider who it is that puts the butter on your bread, and take heed to what He said for you to do in your conduct. otherwise we’re all doomed.

      • Jim

        Actually, your quote of the Bible is not fully correct, most people mistake what you said for this verse:
        1 Timothy 6:10
        For the love of money is A root of all KINDS of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
        Hopefully you can see the difference.

      • Descendent of the Founders

        Unless you read Aramaic, you have never really read the Bible… translations are always tempered by the attitude of the translator. One must use one’s own judgement to find the real truth on scripture, but literal quotes are by their very nature at least two steps removed from the original.

      • http://none YesMan

        Gman you are simply a racist. Jim, his verse was correct. The KJV was the first version written in English. Here it is.

        1 Timothy 6:10

        King James Version (KJV)

        10For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

      • Gman

        Yes Man: I have never been a racist. I simply state the facts. White Americans have run this country into the ground. I make this statement because white Americans have run this country from it’s inception. And due to their stewardship of the gifts that God bestowed upon this country BECAUSE you are the descendants of the ten tribes of Israel that God gave His blessing to, He has turned His Face from US.-Because you break His covenants (Laws, He has seen fit to show you His power and eliminate yours. If you think that I am the racist, what about the great people who brought my descendants to America as slaves against their will to “tend” your garden ? As usual, when confronted with the truth, Anglo’s like you get all politically correct whenever it suits your cause. I really, really feel sorry for you.

      • libertytrain

        Gman are you forgetting who sold the slaves and who some of the first slaveowners were and who were some of the first that brought slaves in? It’s not only the “white” people, it was all races of people… but if you feel you must just blame some…

      • APN

        Gman… Actually is was the 12 tribes an a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. That could mean a government, another person, drugs, booze, sex, money, etc etc etc.

        Better research the origins of slavery first before you cast your misguided stones.

        Slavery, my fellow man, has been around since the beginning of time, so please do not suggest that the “White” man has some kind of patten on this issue.

        Fact is, the way I see it, we are ALL currently SLAVES to Washington regardless of the color of our skin.

      • Joe H.

        Gman,
        what about the slavery going on in the middle east right NOW?? Is THAT run by white eletes?? Please do not attempt to say it isn’t going on, either as it most definately IS! When you make a blanket statement like that, you accuse ALL whites of slavery. I have never owned ANYONE and my ancestors were dead set against it. Part of the problem with the economy in this country is due to the welfare state we have become poor of all colors are getting paid too much money to just sit on their azzes and do nothing. It can not go on! It is bankrupting this country. This problem was instigated by both Whites AND Blacks i this country and to blame one race is just plain STUPID!!

      • JC

        Wow G-Man! That was amazingly racist. So any of the African governments that have a history of functioning so well must have been run by Anglos right? No wait, wasn’t Idi Amin a black guy?
        I mean it’s getting harder to tell all the time…

        And look at how modern and wonderful the major cities of Africa are too, Johennesburg, a world class area with architecture and…no wait, that’s been trashed hasn’t it?

        Ok, Nairobi! Now there’s a monument to good city planning.
        Only about 1 million people living in squalor there…
        but they have a nice airport.

        Given their obvious success, maybe we could hire one of their politicians to run the USA! Oh wait we already did and the country is going down the tubes.

        It isn’t about color moron. I’d vote Alan Keyes in a heart beat.
        Obama is a Globalist who couldn’t care less about any people…black or white.

      • VRG

        If Newt does in the future what he’s done in the past, he will do what Obama’s doing – only at a slower rate, which will make people think he’s not doing it at all. Frankly, I hope his unethical behavior catches up with him before he has a chance of being elected.

      • APN

        Newt, as President, can’t do anything outside of the consent of Congress other than an Executive Order or through the War Powers Act. Both can be solved with legislative action very quickly. In fact, the CONGRESS can IMPEACH the President, and history teaches us that fact.

        Or, The Supreme Court can strike down LAWS passed by the congress and the president. i.e.; OBAMACARE…. and it’s about to happen.

        The President is a sales executive, plain and simple. If he or she can’t sell his or her agenda to the CONGRESS, then guess what, it ain’t going to happen! This office is not a dictatorship, even if Ron Paul holds the office.

        Our Government has checks and balances to prevent any given ONE person or body from expanding the government, etc etc etc. Neither Newt or Ron Paul can come into this office and magically fix this disaster in Washington. Now, President Ron Paul can try but he easily can be told NO and there is not a darn thing he can do about it!

        Remember Bill Clinton, he was told NO numerous times. Thank GOD!

        Bottom line, if you want to fix Washington, then it must be done at the grass roots level throughout all levels of Government.

      • Joe H.

        APN,
        Abummer has gotten us into two actions already by option you speak of and has not been told NO by anybody!! He will soon try to ban firearms by presidential decree as well, mark my words!! He can’t by the constitution, you say? He doesn’t give a dam about the constitution and NEVER will!!!

      • APN

        ….then what is the CONGRESS or the Supreme Court doing about it JoeH?

        Both have the power to stop it at any given moment. Re-read what I just stated about HOW our government works and what is needed to fix it…ie.; GRASS ROOTS or better put….WE THE PEOPLE

      • Old Henry

        Elizabeth:

        Do some investigation of Newtie and what he did, not what he said he did. He is stronly anti-gun / anti-gun owner. He is a Globalist.

        Please go to http://www.ronpaul2012.com and learn what he believes. Do not listen to the MSM or the GOP.

        Newtie is morally BANKRUPT and yet another Trojan Horse.

      • Old Henry

        Here is a little something on Newtie.

        http://www.texemarrs.com/choice_for_2012.htm

      • Jack Coleman

        A match up between Newt and Obama would be the best thing that could ever happen for the Democrats.
        If we didn’t learn NOT to let the mainstream news media and slanted debates choose the Republican candidate like they did in the last Presidential election. We will suffer another 4 years of Obama rule and I don’t think the country,as we know it, will survive.

    • Mushin

      HE’S A RINO – A LIAR, A DISGRACE TO THE OATH OF HIS OFFICE AND A TURNCOAT.

      When are Americans going to wake up!?

      Any of you who vote for any other beside Ron Paul will regret your mistake the same way you’ve regretted voting for B. Obama. Heed my warning.

      • Braley

        Absolutely True. This why he is being ignored and given very little time in the debates by the controlled liberal media.

      • jbrandma

        Seriously…Ron Paul…pro abortion..supports drug legalization…he’s only a fiscal conservative…we need a Christian…someone that supports Israel..prolife and most of all pro God…will support Ameria…wo
        uld love to see Rick Santorum higher n polls ..God help us!!!

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear jbrandma,

        Dr. Paul is a Christian. He is not pro abortion and he believes drug legislation is best left up the States. If you are ignorant of Dr. Paul’s positions, please study them here: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/. If you are lying, go away. Your lies will not be allowed to stand here.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Brian

        Rick Santorum is a ‘Christian’(which I’m not sure about) but he is not a true conservative like Ron Paul…RON PAUL for president in 2012 – any other vote will be a vote to flush this country down the tubes – HECK, I’m not so sure that even Ron Paul can do the job this country needs…After all, he has to convince the other 435 members of the Senate and House to go along with him!

      • Mushin

        RON PAUL IS NOT JESUS CHRIST BUT HE’S THE CLOSEST THING TO A SAVIOR WE WILL EVER HAVE – BE “SAVED” BY HIM AND ACCEPT HIM AS THE MESSIAH OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND LIBERTY OR CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE CHEATS AND LIARS REPRESENTING US….AND BURN IN THE PATH TO HELL THEY ARE LEADING DOWN.

      • Old Henry

        Santorum appears to be too stupid to be POTUS after his comment that he thought the issue of Little Barry’s eligibilty had been settled.

      • Old Henry

        Mushin:

        Be careful with that “savior” stuff. We’ve recently been that route.

      • DaveH

        It’s up to us, Brian, to convince the members of the house and senate to go along with Paul. It’s time for some Roundup to get rid of the weeds in Congress.

      • APN

        Actually Brian, it is 535 members of the house and the senate.

        435 Reps in the house
        100 Senators

        Now, he has stated he is IN FACT a Christian, and to be quite frank with you, based upon his comments and his actions, it leaves me without any reason to doubt him. I think he is a good man and holds true to his words.

      • Joe H.

        Brian,
        Remember when Bush jr wanted to institute amnesty?? Remember who stopped him?? WE DID!! We just have to convince these cretins that we will insure that they will lose their jobs in the next election if they don’t back Dr. Paul. We can do it, all we have to do is take the first step!!!

      • APN

        JOeH….Well put and that is a FACT! WE THE PEOPLE stopped amnesty…..plain and simple.

      • JayP

        We need someone who is concerned about the Constitution. Ron Paul is the only candidate who is. He is not in favor of anything which oversteps the bounds of the Constitution regardless of what it is. If we are going to throw away the Constitution because of Christian beliefs then it leaves us wide open for tyranny because those who do not hold Christian values will demand other unconstitutional laws to suit their viewpoint. We must adhere to the Constitution. States need to make and enforce their own laws concerning abortion, drugs, etc., those are not functions of the Federal government as set forth by the Constitution.

      • Zack

        JayP, while I subscribe to ALL Dr. Paul’s domestic policies his foreign policies frighten me. However anyone voting for Dr. Paol via a write-in candidate is assuring a win for Obamanation.

      • DaveH

        The absence of Ron Paul’s foreign policy is what scares me. Given the NDAA of 2012 (S. 1867) that the Senate recently passed by a landslide with the indefinite detention provision for American Citizens, I would say that we might soon have to pay a very big price for the buildup of the military state in the last 100 years.
        Remember, Watch Out What You Wish For; It Might Come True.

      • Old Henry

        jbrandma:

        How many decades have we been fighting “The War On Drugs”? Forty +? How’s it been going? As with “The War On Poverty” it is time to PULL OUT. Or, as Hillie-Billie says: “Pull out now!”

        The only thing these are wars on is our freedom and liberty.

      • http://DoULoveJesus.Wordpress.com Mark Dabney

        Ron Paul as an obstetrician having delivered over 4000 babies is anything but “ProChoice” – he is for states rights that Roe V. Wade was a farce that imposed abortion – he is for legitimate defense – which means we must secure our own borders and cease and desist meddling in other people’s affairs.

        As for drug legalization – there are criminal elements of our feral gov’t [feral = undomesticated] that are heavily involved in drug trafficking, money laundering and black ops. This would end the prohibition that has zero constitutional authority. Prohibition was a horrid failure for alcohol in that it made a major problem out of a minor problem – likewise the “war on drugs”.

        As for Israel – Ron Paul believes that we have been funding their enemies with foreign aid. If we do not cut foreign aid and drastically shrink Feral spending – the dollar will collapse and the Israelis will be in a world of hurt. Should you chose to send your own personal funds to assist this disingenuous political entity where 3/4 of the population are SECULAR “Jews” – I will not stop you – but do not claim that I am funding terrists if I were to send money to help the Palestinian Christians. But do you have any idea who Cyrus Scofield was? How he was used to contaminate the mindset of the American people about Zionism? Did you know that Scofield was funded by the same man that funded Karl Marx? Where did you get the idea that duplicity is a blessing? The prophets of old repeatedly rebuked Israel for her transgressions – why are all these false “profits” [play on words there] do the exact opposite and call it “AntiSemitism” to agree with the Anti-Zionist Jews? Please read Revelation 2:9 & 3:9 – bear these passages in mind – do a YouTube search on Russo Rockefeller – Russo – God rest his soul was a Sephartic Jew – Nick Rockefeller a Plutocrat – consider Russo’s warning about the hidden goal of the “war on terror”

      • jimmy the greek

        We need a bible thumping christen like we need a hole in the head .

      • Fubert Bar

        I agree. we don’t need more bushes, we need another Reagan, and Ron Paul is closer to Reagan in philosophy than any of the Republican pack.

      • ChristyK

        Ron Paul would be much better than Reagan because he is more consistently principled than Reagan (admittedly Reagan is a much better public speaker which helped him).

        Reagan looks really good when compared with what we have gotten for president since him, but he wasn’t as consistently constitutional as Ron Paul. Many conservatives still refuse to acknowledge Reagans mistakes. Because Ron Paul doesn’t compromise his principles, he would not have made some of the mistakes that Reagan made such as agreeing to an increase in taxes for a greater increase in spending (spending cuts didn’t happen but tax increases did) and spending too much and increasing our debt.

    • CJ

      So now we try to correct a misuse of an acronym. Because society has used RINO to mean something different than it “should” mean, doesn’t change who Newt is. Society simply failed to properly tag others who deserved it. It’s no different than thinking SC’s comments are more creditable only because he gets to top-list nearly half of the posts on this board. Until there’s more candidates like Ron Paul running, the selection will continue to be all bad choices. Our country has a BIG problem, but we simply have a system that chooses the least-bad option. You will never fix a problem when you have only defective parts to pick from.

      • DaveH

        The Republican Leaders won’t run more candidates like Ron Paul, until the Republican voters give them no choice. When they put up Non-Constitutionalists, the Republican voters need to withhold their votes until the Leaders get the message — QUIT NOMINATING BIG GOVERNMENT CANDIDATES!

    • JayP

      Newt Gingrich most certainly IS a RINO!
      Newt Gingrich is a Globalist to the very core which means he is NOT a Republican and it means he is NOT Conservative. The fact that he calls himself a Republican when he is not by definition makes him a RINO.

    • Don

      Keep thinking like that about every Republican – Newt, etc.,and guess what? We will have Obama back again for another destructive four years. Be a man and hold your nose; they are the only game in town.

      • DaveH

        No they are not. There is a Principled political party which respects peoples’ right to control their own bodies and legally acquired properties. They expect the Leaders to abide by the same rules that the citizens do. The citizens can’t steal; the leaders shouldn’t be allowed to steal. The citizens can’t kill; the leaders shouldn’t be allowed to kill. The citizens can’t break the law; the leaders shouldn’t be allowed to break the law. And the main law of the land is the Constitution, which leaders in all branches of Government often ignore. And that includes the Supreme Court.
        For Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Limited Government, Free Markets, and PEACE:
        http://libertarianparty.org/issues

      • JC

        Sorry Don, but we’ve been holding our nose for too many decades.
        It’s time to man up and elect someone with a backbone.

    • Vic Bailey

      Newt is for Newt and all the money that he can steal, misuse, embezzle or pay to one of his family members, and help turn America over to the UN and the New World Order. Wake up America, Newt is worse than POND SCUM! Isn’t it time we QUIT electing Monkeys on Chains? Start putting REAL MEN in our government, NOT the puppets of the Elitist! Quit electing Lawyers and Registered Socialist like John Lewis, Maxine Waters, and the 70 some more that are in our congress right now! Semper Fi.

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