….and once again, who enabled this Government entity to do such a thing? CONGRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REALLY? What makes you so sure? Few ripoffs are advertised.

Simple stuff my friend. Given the size of the fee, then the CEO would need to approve the expenditure, correct? Given that, who appointed the CEO? Who made both Freddie and Fannie a Government sponsored entity?

C O N G R E S S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There you have your dilemma APN. Everyone blames Obama when it is Congress that is the problem. Thanks for sharing.

You’re welcome Eddie but not for reasons you think you understand. The process of cleaning out congress started in 2010 and will continue in 2012, both parties. Amabo will be gone as well, so yours and his attempt to run against a “Do nothing Congress” will be futile.

That is the first thing you have said that I partially agree with Eddie. However, their hole could fit in the demorats hole about 10 fold.

Why should he be in handcuffs? When all the corporate pigs and thieves get billions in bonuses for their robbery? They’re all hailed as business geniuses while they steal and they steal and they steal 365 days a year, 24 hours a day. Barney Frank lives in a pretty ordinary house in Fall River, Massachuesetts. You should see how the corporate pigs live! But you never will – as their sumptuous mansions are in gated communities with heliports, private airfields, and massive armed security. But no matter how much they screw the American people they still have millions of suckers like you who worship them for their rape and robbery. And they buy and sell shills like Frank to do their dirty work for them as they buy and sell underwear. Welcome to the Wonderful World of American Capitalism – where the people who get screwed cheer on the people who screw them! And express outrage at the butlers, janitors and servants of the crooks -like Frank – BUT NEVER AT THE CROOKS THEMSELVES! Talk about useful idiots!

Mark, how do they steal? How does the corporate CEO steal anything in a free market economy? Who gave them the money? Did the market give them the money or congress? You want to explain that to us?

I mean you keep bashing our system like a parrot over an over again but you never provide any specificity in exactly why how those evil CEO’s are raping the country? Just like eddie47d, no substance, just parroted words out of your god hating progressive-marxist handbook. Envy and hatred my friend, that is what drives you and ole eddie, nothing more and nothing less.

Both of you are so dumb as to how the world works that you don’t even understand the benefits of a TRUE capitalist system of which we have NOT been operating under for about a 100 years now!

Example: Did your “GOVMENT” just bail out the most corrupt union controlled car building company on the planet???” How does that work in a “capitalist” system? I thought under capitalism that a business that is poorly managed would go bankrupt and then be consumed by the wolves of the open market? Which is it Mark/Eddie??? Are we currently running a capitalist system in America or a “Progressive-Marxist” system? How about the latest Solyndra scandle? What the heck does that have to do with capitalism? You want to explain that to us? How does CONGRESS have the power to pick winners and losers in a “Free Market” capitalist system? EXPLAIN IT for us dumb helpless “Free” market Americans.

How about laying out your solution that will replace our current system. Which one is it Mark:

1.) Marxism…… I bet you like that one, don’t you “Mark”?
2.) Socialism
3.) Communism
4.) How about eddieISM

I’m sure the all omnipotent eddie can fix this progressive nightmare.

What is this great system that you have in mind for us helpless little Americans. Maybe we should let the “GOVMENT” handle all our daily needs and affairs since we are just too stupid to handle life? Oh, wait a minute, that is the system we have now! Go figure!!!!

What is it about CONGRESS controlling our businesses and economy that you don’t understand? Name for me specifically what laws the BIG OLE BAD CEO’s have broken and the incentives they would have in destroying the very economy that drives the bottom line profitability of their businesses? That scenario would appear to be mutually exclusive and self-destructive. That is what Governments do not businesses.

BEAM ME UP! The level of stupidity of the progressive mindset boggles the adult mind.

APN…Bravo!

APN, haven’t you read any financial newspapers or books in the last several years? First, Wall Street successfully lobbied (bribed) Congress into overturning Glass-Steagal which had prevented commercial banks from over-leveraging into speculation like investment banks frequently do. Once they could break this wall between commercial and investment banking, long a Wall Street goal, they gained access to hundreds of thousands of commercial bank mortgages. They lowered borrowing standards with no-doc and stated-income mortgages plus deceptive ARM loans. These giant Wall Street investment firms had no problem writing these unstable, bad mortagages because they reaped big commissions from them and further commissions when they bundled them into giant securitized instruments that they sold to overseas banks. They simply reaped the profits and passed the risks onto other banks and onto other countries (this is why Warren Buffet called them Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction. Wall Street helped bring the whole world economy down!) The CEOs and their mid and upper-level minions made giant bonuses and profits writing and selling these fraudulent mortgages. They had no problem from Congress with this since they simply bought off opposition and got all the enabling legislation they needed to proceed. WALL STREET VIRTUALLY OWNS OUR GOV’T!

Both the Clinton and Bush administration failed to introduce new regulations to keep up with these changes, so Wall Street basically did what it wanted. Plus Bush kept pushing for “an ownership society” in which all Americans could become home-owners. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac cooperated (giving big contributions along with their investment bank partners to all sorts of Congressmen Democrat and Republican, including Frank – also $1.6 million to lobbyist Newt Gingrich). Of course much the securitized paper they wrote and sold was pure crap – like Enron stock or Credit Mobilier stock of the 1870s – and they knew it. Goldman Sachs even bet against the very CDOs they were selling to their own customers by using their in-house hedge fund division to gain further profits. (They later paid fines for this but again no one ever goes to jail for crimes involving billions – only if you’re poor and stick up a milk store, then you go to jail). The bulk of what Wall Street did in these years was immoral, unethical, and fraudulent by most standards. But was it illegal? Much of it was, but other portions were in a gray area and since Wall Street wrote the laws or deregulated them to their own benefit by lobbying (bribing) Congress and can afford a battery of corporate lawyers if the gov’t goes after them (all at shareholders’ expense), virtually all of them escaped prosecution. All throughout this process, they awarded themselves obscene bonuses and salaries for basically practicing fraud, which continued even after the whole financial system nearly collapsed in the fall of 2008. Then, of course, they received a $700 billion bail-out from the taxpayers. Once again behind the scenes, they lobbied (bribed) for this bail-out deal which they got also by extorting the whole country and in fact the whole world. IF WE GO DOWN, WE WILL TAKE THE WHOLE U.S. AND WORLD ECONOMY WITH US! This final high-stakes extortion worked – and may have even been true!

These are the crimes that Wall Street committed and that virtually none of its CEOs and managers have paid for in anyway whatsover. In fact they have been and continue to be rewarded for their crimes. How would I changed the system? I am not a socialist but this kind of supercapitalism for plutocrats requires drastic reform. I would break up the big investment firms and banks into smaller, accountable institutions. No more TOO BIG TO FAIL finance. I would bring back Glass-Steagal as Paul Volker recommended 2 years ago. I would put into place a much stricter regulatatory regime that rein in the investment and hedge funds that participated in this fraud. This also would include reform of Fredddie Mac and Fannie Mae and eventual privatization of them as much smaller entities. And I would break the iron triangle of bribery between Wall Street, our federal gov’t, and the military-industrial complex. Zero corporate contributions to political campaigns, zero corporate lobbying of Congress, and I do mean zero. Probably public-funded, much shorter election cycles would be the way to go.

But I am just a private citizen. WALL STREET Rules our nation, our politics, and our economy, and will NEVER ALLOW most of the changes I have suggested. All of which would have to be worked out through the democratic process by the way since I hate dictatorship as much as I hate Wall Street Super-capitalism.

Mark, good for you and well put. You finally presented me with something of substance! The only thing I would change in what you have stated is replace the words BIG BUSINESS, WALL STREET or the word CEO with the word CONGRESS and I think you hit the nail on the head. These are the PEOPLE who yield real POWER over the rest of us. CEO’s do not and if you don’t like your CEO then leave and go find another company to work for….. or….don’t buy their products!

CONGRESS has ENABLED all of what you just stated, 100%.

You did not mention the FED and how it has played a predominant role in the financial meltdown. Who is Freddie/Fannie? Isn’t this a government entity approved by Congress? Where does it state in our constitution that the federal government should be involved in the housing industry, medical industry or education, etc etc etc.

Once again, please explain to me how you consider our system as capitalist when we are busy bailing out failed poorly managed car companies(UNIONS BROKE THEM) and cherry picking winners and losers like Solyndra? Explain that to me? Is that your interpretation of Capitalism, and if so, where exactly did you go to school because someone has mislead you.

In closing, certainly you don’t think that capitalism has anything to do with what you just stated, do you? And if so, how, specifically. Do you think some other system would produce any different results given the fact that our “representatives” have completely ignored their SWORN duty to uphold the constitution? Just WHO allowed that to happen? Take A4S4 for example, just why are our elected officials in Washington not protecting us from INVASION by a foreign peoples? Explain it to me.

Bottom line, and the cold hard facts, WE THE PEOPLE are totally responsible for the mire and the muck we currently find ourselves in. Our form of government depends solely on our ability to hold those accountable we place in power. We should never take our eye off Washington as to what they are up to and we should question everything they do, fearlessly. READ THE DARN BILL! When those like Mr. Franks do things that are unethical then we must hold him accountable or you just wrote a free pass for all that follows to do the same darn thing! Why would anyone vote this man back in office? Did a BIG CEO make them do it or Wallstreet?

We have a MORAL issue in this country my friend and their is not a system or set of man made rules on this planet that will fix the progressive mess being made out of this country.

Get back to honesty, hard work, decency, and each of us MINDING our own business and you will see some improvement. Anything else, you just get the same results, some worse than others.

I like that one APN..eddieism! Has a ring to it! I hate to tell you APN but CEOs make outrageous demands (blackmail) to receive the loot they receive and are like kids in a toy store demanding everything. They get more perks than a pot of coffee. How many times do we have to tell you they have scammed the system and the shareholders are afraid to say no. They have become very spoiled brats and some of those toys need to be taken away from them.

Eddie..ISM Thank you for proving my point. Under EddieISM we can have people like you decide who gets what, when and how. Sounds like a great system for YOU.

You really like the word pig don’t you mark? An animal you can relate to?

I think the term appropriately describes Wall Street. Pigs at the trough. These CEOs and investment bankers can never have enough houses, jets, vacation homes, yachts, gold bars, multi-million dollar bonuses, giant bloated salaries, endless political corruption and influence with Congress. They can never say enough. Dick Grasso of Wall Street walked away with a $142 million severance package and he still wasn’t satisfied. I saw him on Fox News’ Neil Cavuto show saying he felt “underpaid.” That’s my definition of a pig. But to most of the participants of this blogs, these executives are patriots and people we should admire despite their massive salaries and federal bail-outs. I have more admiration for ordinary working men and women and for our troops who lay their lives on the lines for a pittance in comparison.

Well mark, your true colors are finally shining through for all to see. Typical hate filled progressive full of envy for your fellow man. Who placed you in the judgement seat when it comes to another man’s business or wealth?

I’m sure if you had wealth, you would be SUPERIOR to those who have it now. Fact is Mark, you can take every dime from every American in this country, then redistribute that money equally to each citizen, and within less than one-two years, the same people who had it before will have it again. Those who did not have it before will not keep it because they do not understand how to make it maximally productive.

No ideology will change the fact that some are wealth producers and most are not. Some have the intelligence to build and manage a business and most do not. That is by design or we would never produce anything of any real value. i.e.; nobody to build the products created by the people intelligent enough to design and market the products in a CAPITALIST system.

In closing, no matter the system you choose, those who understand the system will thrive and those that do not, will not. In fact, you can have connections to the highest official in the land but if you lack the intelligence to produce, then once used up by that official, you’re done.

Simple stuff!

Well APN you are a hate filled Conservative who can’t see the fire beneath your feet.

Eddie47d….and I think your eddieism has made you delusional. Typical of the progressive mindset.

Name one system in the world that has done a better job of taking care of it’s people and has offered them hope like America.

….and your solution is??

Ron Paul is the only person that ANYONE should consider for president…However, I don’t think he can do it ALL himself – he has to ‘convince’ 435 other members of the house and senate to do what he has said…With that said, I don’t think he or anyone else will be able ‘convince’ them BUT he is the only ‘politician’ of any stripe that I would support…

I agree Brian but unfortunately it will never happen. Ron Paul is not a politician, he is a PATRIOT that understands how the constitution limits the size and scope of the federal government. I still think we have a good chance of improving things in 2012 but nowhere close to a REAL solution.

Ron Paul doesn’t have a chinaman’s chance for the brass ring because he is much too forthright and honest. Those attributes scare the hell out of the establishment. He is not nearly sneaky and underhanded enough to ever pass muster. Really too bad because, despite his warts, he has more integrity than all of the others combined.

Yep! I agree with you 100%. This guy scares the xell out of Washington.

I would love to see it but it will never happen.

Who cares about the repubs or dems??? It is the PROGRESSIVES stupid!

No it’s the Elites no matter what party they hide in.

Well that makes up about 99.9% of the demorats, doesn’t it?

I see APN is still covering up for those wealthy CEOs who helped collaspe our economy and places all the blame on progressives. I didn’t know all those CEOs were progressives APN? Wow I learn something new everyday! That doesn’t mean that Franks and Dodds didn’t make their own blunders and should exit as soon as possible. You need to also take care of the COWARDS in our Corporate world who shamed America . You can cut off the tail but if the head is still functioning those corrupt CEOs will still be corrupt. That can go either way with Washington or Wall Street.

….and I see you’re still as foolish now as you have been in the past. How did CEO’s collapse the Economy, my progressive friend? You want to explain that comment or is this just another parrot line out of your progressive handbook?

Again, name those CEO’s that collapsed our economy. How did they do it? What laws did they break, specifically? Given the fact that CONGRESS controls our private sector, then how can a CEO “Collapse” our economy? Is this a progressive interpretation of the definition of an “Economy”???

What benefit would a CEO have in collapsing the economy???? How would that improve the bottom line profitability of the business THEY are responsible for? Since CEO’s within the private sector are paid based upon performance then what incentive would they have in “Collapsing” the economy? In contrast, what were the CEO’s just paid at Fannie/Freddie for $BILLIONS in LOSSES??? Your comment appears to be mutually exclusive to the private sector but directly applicable to those government entities and the CONGRESS.

In contrast, what was it Barney Frank did with the housing industry that was the catalyst in our economic meltdown? You want to explain the economic impact that had or just give us another parrot line.

Couldn’t have said it better myself, APN!

You ought to know about cowards eddie47d.

I know you unfortunately!

So, e, you admit that Baaney Fwank is a wealthy CEO. So how does he send himself to prison to pay for his crimes against America? It’s NOT FAIR for Bernie Madoff to be there alone [send Dodd, too]. And Reid and Queen Pelosi. Want the whole list?

…and what do they all have in common?

GOD Haters
Greed
Power Hungry
Lies
deceit
morally bankrupt
mentally incompetent
An ever growing need to “Feel” important
Take from one and give to another but never give anything yourself
Elitism or a better description…………Sociopaths
etc
etc
etc

You left out Boehner and company what a pity.

Mark – I’m still waiting to see what your alternate plan is…

….me too!

APN, M probably has the same mental lisp that ‘e’ has. They will ramble and rant all day long, but they just can’t get to the point. Even when they manage to get close to the point, they have to throw in programmed cliches that utopians are obligated (by contract) to spew our way [it's GB's fault, mean-spirited, hateful, ignorant and all the other predictable, fecal remnants that make utopianism what it is].
Utopians just can’t get it through their festering brains that there’s always a difference between fact and fantasy. Adults get it. Utopians don’t.
As for Baaney Fwank, good riddance. Ship him to Than Franthithco. They can probably find a ‘position’ for him, as long as he spends some quality time on his knees in that “Big Tent.”

Yep! Sad but true! LMAO!!!

…and your alternate system and solution is? Still waiting?

I think you better take a long hard look at the FED, created by the CONGRESS, if you want to understand what has wrecked our economy and our currency. Again, CEO’s build businesses that produces wealth so your implications are misguided.

Go back and read comments made by the FOUNDERS and see the WARNINGS about a centralized banking system and then an only then will you clearly understand what got us to this point.

Mark were you one of Ol Barney’s pages?

Yep! That is the way I see it! We need wealth creators not more silly Washington politicians.

…I think Hitler mandated a national healthcare system, didn’t he? So what is the difference in those how crammed this unconstitutional HC law down our throats and why? You better start thinking more and speaking less.

The people who voted for the healtcare reform bill did not deliberately start a world war that killed 60 million people. These Congressmen also did not round up 12 million Jews and Slavs and put them in gas chambers to kill them. That is one of the difference between these reformers and Adolf Hitler. To you this is probably a very small difference. To those who think rationally, it is a rather large one.

Well, I beg to differ, they just haven’t killed 60 million yet!

Well, APN Bernie Maddoff was a Capitalist and plied his trade very well. Does that make all Capitalist evil? There are hundreds of Madoff’s out there so be careful how you answer. Bringing up health care and the fuhrer was a cheap shot if you get the drift.

I beg to differ. Bernie Maddoff was a crook and the system he was a crook under had nothing to do with anything. I have no sympathy for those that were foolish enough to invest in his dumb ponzi scheme. i.e.; get rich quick never works and people should know better

In contrast, socializing or nationalizing things such as Healthcare is the oldest power play in the books. Control healthcare and you eventually control everything. Pretty simple stuff that has been repeated many times throughout history. Fact is, the day this unconstitutional bill was signed into law, will be a day that all of us will deeply regret.

He was a crook because the Capitalist system allowed him to.

Der Fuerher and Obama share a lot of common beliefs, like speaking at the Brandenburg Gate, not speaking until a few people had fainted, taking over the auto industry, invading foreign countries, and the national health care system, and oh yes a Socialist philosophy.

More LOL for the folks ?

eddie47d thinks Bernie was a crook because Capitalism ALLOWED him to be?

Your depth and understanding of how things work amazes me. LOL!!!

But, the average American is not an openly practicing gay politician.

Quien Sabe? Maybe the Tea Party is our best hope. It is said that a new broom sweeps clean. Yet even a new broom often misses the corners.

Not if you spray it with some caustic substance, like BLEACH, and burn the dirt left behind out of the corners.

….and your solution is?

You are wrong, the Bureaucrats are the ones who run Congress.

…… and in all your progressive wisdom and experience, your solution is? Give us a clue and stop talking in riddles. Be specific as to what this great system would be to FREE us simple minded little Americans from the mean ole CEO’s?

Will we be required to work in this system? Can we own a car or a home? Can we select our mate in life or will the all omnipotent ones in CONGRESS assign us a mate in life as well? Can I choose to be a doctor or will I have a GOVMENT assigned duty for the “Good of the Peoples”. Who makes these decisions for you and I? Do we elect them or do they just appoint themselves over the “Subjects” of this nation?

I’m still waiting for you to outline this GREAT SOCIETY you have in mind for us little dumb peoples that are too stupid to live life as we choose. Boy, do I ever need someone like you to “Protect me from those mean ole CEO’s” and make my daily decisions for me.

Maybe you can choose my Doctor for me? Wait a minute, AMABO has already done that so you will need to be in charge of something else. LOL!

I want to help Mark out on this: Specific suggestions, kick all the bums out, establish term limits, end the senority system in Congress and take away all of the self appointed perks, make them live under the laws they pass.
Now the hard part (That’s What BF said!) How to get the people to vote out their favorite politician? That isn’t as easy?

Bus, I’ve long advocated term limits…And the rest of what you had to say is good too!

If you read Saul Alinsky’s writings, you will learn what great “UTOPIA” the “PROGRESSIVES” have in mind for you. Then you could follow up with “MEIN KAMPF”.

Mark – that is the first thing you have written that I partially agree with! Congratulations!

When you deal with PEOPLE, what more can you expect?

It won’t happen as long as Obama and Holder are in power!

I think that will change in Nov 2012. Actually Jan 20th, 2013, if the Republic survives that long.

Nope, but it is a great start to fixing Washington. Hope to get a few more in November 2012!

Yes. Once everyone like Frank and you mark.

No, Mark, it will take more than just getting rid of Barney. The next step should be to get rid of Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Maxine Waters, Debbie what’s-her-name at the DNC, Chuckie Schumer, Dick Durban, and the rest of the ultra-liberal asshats that have screwed us sixteen ways from Sunday for the last 40 years. Oh, and let’s not forget the Imposter-In-Chief Barack Obama.

I’m not naive enough to think it is only Democrats who are fault, because there have been plenty of Republicans who have contributed to the mess simply by not having the guts to stand up to the liberals. The majority of the damage, however, was done by 40 odd years of Democrats controlling the purse strings in the House (since the end of WWII). It wasn’t until the GOP Revolution in the 90′s that we got some fiscal relief. But its hard to reform things when half the country is feeding at the government trough, and the media is in the bag for liberal causes.

You all have had your turn and damn near destroyed the country in the process. Now its our turn to try to save it once again. It remains to be seen if we have enough time to do that. Whatever happens, people like you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

WOW!!! Well put!! BEA-UTI-MUS!!!

Oh, quit whining. This country was started by, prospered from, and runs on Capitalism. If you’re smart enough to get ahead, you could be living the high life like most of those guys. Hell, you don’t even have to be that smart — you just have to be willing to bust your hump and work your way up the corporate ladder. Most people simply aren’t willing to put in the time or effort to get to that level.

Instead, far too many sit around on their butts complaining and looking for ways to get rich without putting in any real effort. I don’t begrudge any of those guys their millions, as long as they didn’t break any laws getting it. Those companies don’t have to answer to you or any of the poor sods in the OWS movement, they only have to answer to their stockholders. And before you ask, I’m a hardcore conservative and have been since before Barry Goldwater ran 50 years ago.

As long as they didn’t break any laws? WALL STREET BUYS THE POLITICIANS WHO WRITE THE LAWS – ALL IN THEIR FAVOR – DON’T YOU REALIZE THAT?!! The whole system is rotten to the core. Quit whining? The greatest corporate robbery in human history, no one goes to jail, and your advice is to quit whining?!! I’ll quit whining when they are all in prison, their assets seized to restore the economy they wrecked, and the system they feed off is fundamentally reformed. Then I will quit whining, sir. Is there anyone left in this country who still believes in the idea of JUSTICE? Apparently not as these crooks not only beat the rap but got giant bonuses for their collossal embezzlements. What a world, what a country.

Well put John but unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears. Mark is probably a by-product of Generation-x, y or z educated by some American hating professor that teaches “Social Justice”, whatever the heck that means! Lazier than a snail and dumber than a box of rocks. Their life is driven by hatred and greed never understanding or enjoying life. i.e.; you get out of life what you put into it and if you are foolish enough to place your happiness in the hands of another human being, well, good luck to you!

I’m still waiting on him to come back and explain to us just exactly what system we are currently operating under. It sure as heck is not capitalism by any stretch of the imagination. However, based upon what I have witnessed over the past 1/2 century appears to be a form of Progressive- Marxism that is a direct result of the current economic disaster we have in America/World. I mean, the facts are in, as we “Progressively” go down the road to “Being like the rest of the world” then I’m sure these dumb kids will be burning cars in the street in the very near future. I would think that is by design, a progressive design, wouldn’t you?

BINGO!! Not only that but the prophesied (one)new world order!! So get ready to either agree,shut up,or get locked up. So let’s say the gov’t stands behind homosexuality…..is this when the christians will be more severly persecuted? As predicted to resurface immensely. I don’t believe that anything as tragic as 911 or our current economic recession is by chance. With all the technology and intel we have at our disposal!? People need to start waking up!! It’s our gov’t putting US in crisis! Divide and conguer,what ever you want to call it. In my eyes all parties are working together towards this common goal. Marxism? New world Order? Dictatorship? Totalitarian? Do any of these sound like what we want as americans? It will be something similiar to these based on what we are seeing from our elected officials regardless of party. Unity,possibly with bloodshed, would be the only way were going to change the current course. Or could it be that the worlds higher officials are unwittingly doing God’s work to align to His prophecy? If so would they be rewarded in heaven for being instruments of God? What about Judas the betrayer? In both cases the work doesn’t appear pleasant to us but is requiured to uphold God’s truth!!

Good for you, John !!! Well said !!! Unfortunately, we are dealing with human nature and homo sapiens are hard wired in the “pissed off” position.
This is not about to change. We’ll just have to continue searching for “work arounds”.

That will depend on how many of those currently in congress get told to go home come November, 2012. So folks, if you want these people held accountable, then put people in power who are just as outraged as we are with a mandate of INVESTIGATING those who have raped our children and grandchildren. When found guilty, seize their assets and return it to OUR treasury, then put them in jail for life to have plenty of time to ponder the error of their ways.

Judge Napolitano is calling for the same thing for Obama, for his part in putting a hit out on and murder of an American born terrorist.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Napolitano-Obama-Impeached-Awlaki/2011/10/22/id/415400

He says the guy probably was guilty, but that is not the point. The guy was denied due process under the law and our Constitution as an American Citizen. This means that Obama can put a hit out on any one of us at his whim. Executive order anyone?

Yep, sad but true. Our self-anointed KING can do just about anything he wants to do, IN THIS LIFETIME. After experiencing a 1/2 century of life, I can assure you that he will be held accountable for his actions, maybe not now, but in the end, accountability will come. Just like the subject matter of this blog, BF, accountability will come and it is inevitable.

If McCain and Levin get their amendment to the military funding bill passed, Obama can put virtually anyone in a military prison for life, just like Castro and Chavez have done.

Absolutely moonbean. Little Barry the communist half-breed Kenyan Chi Ka Go ganster can put a hit on anybody. That is the way gang banger Chi Ka Go gangsters operate. They murder with impunity.

Once again Mark, CONGRESS is the enabler, get it?

John Corzine is a great example, and he has a big “D” after his name.

Eddie47d said: Too bad that small narrow minds never look at the big picture which is one of your greatest faults SC

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie!!!! Small narrow minds?? Are you not smart enough to even understand that our private sector “Free Market” system is controlled by congress? Do you not understand that those you demonize are operating within the guidelines set by congress? Do you not understand that the only reason we have companies operating overseas is because CONGRESS allows them to??? Now, if you can outline what those individual business owners have done that is ILLEGAL, not approved by CONGRESS, then you have my attention. In contrast, can you think of anything that ole Barn has done to WE THE PEOPLE that is illegal? Can you name one thing he has done that would be considered to be unconstitutional or at least unethical?

Typical shallow minded progressive…i.e.; no substance, blaming others for the errors of those in POWER of which THEY appointed.

This has all been pretty funny so far. Sad, yet funny. Here are the facts. The government is controlled by the fed which is a privately held corporation (if you don’t think so, you’re delusional). Some of the banks listed above are stock holders of the fed. Therefore, it’s the banks that control monetary policy in, not only the US but, the world. So, yes the banks and the fed are responsible for the situation we’re in. As for large corporations, let’s take walmart for an example. Walmart corporate policy is to keep employee hours low so the government has to pay their healthcare. They also take out life insurance policies on their employees. Now tell me they’re good and honest. I don’t think so.

What’s going here is a different matter. The division of our country is appalling. At this time in our country, we need to unify to get rid of all the crooks in both government and business. This division of our people is by design and meant as a precursor to conquering us. All of us, regardless of sexual orientation. Stop playing into their hands, talk to each other with respect and agree to disagree.

I am one of those Christians that Mark is assaulting. However, I don’t hate him. Instead, in the spirit of our country and in the interest of its survival, I’d like to come to an agreement with him. If he’s gay, the fact is that he has a constitutional right to be so. I am not here to judge. As a Christian, my role is to care, help, and to alleviate pain if I can. The thought that these fellow countrymen can call us haters should cause all of you who call yourselves Christians to hang your heads in shame. I don’t know what will happen to Mark, but I can say that you’ll be answering for your actions.

Ken….If you think any entity , the Fed, business, bank or otherwise yields any real power, then respectfully, you are delusional. Any of the aforesaid are controlled by the people we place in CONGRESS and at any time they choose, the CONGRESS can reel in the FED. In fact, watch what happens to the FED in the very near future. At any given moment, at the choosing of CONGRESS, agents can appear at the door of the FED and people can leave in handcuffs. In contrast, give me an example of what REAL power the FED has other than monetary measures, which is ALLOWED by CONGRESS.

Respectfully, the CONGRESS, outside of the Office of the Presidency, is the most powerful body in the republic. As a body, they YIELD POWER over the FED, BANKS, Businesses, and, you and I. No business, bank or the FED can force you to purchase something however CONGRESS along with King AMABO just mandated that you and I buy insurance. That is just the beginning my friend.

In regards to Homosexuals, never said anything about them not having the same constitutional rights as straight people. That was a misguided interpretation by Mark or an assumption my Mark. I have nothing against gay folks personally other than their lifestyle is a reflection of a depraved mind and I would question anyone’s judgement that would choose that lifestyle. People choose to be Gay just like people choose to be a drunk or a drughead, all are very unhealthy activities that will result in serious consequences.

Bottom line, personal choices that I have no control over and do not want any control over. People need to keep their sexual orientation to themselves and stop trying to convince the world that a very consequential behavior pattern is “OK”.

The bankers only did what the GOVERNMENT enabled them to do…The GOVERNMENT is the problem here…

Yep, nothing more and nothing less. Throw the FED into this picture and think we are on the right track.

Government is ALWAYS the problem…………EVERYWHERE !!!

brian, you’ve got it backwards…the govt did what the bankers told them to do…who lends the govt money?

Do you realize John Corzine, DEMOCRAT, has been on both sides of that situation, as Goldman Sachs head, Senator, Governor, and then head of one of the biggest bankruptcies, all the while being a BILLIONAIRE, and never losing a dime.

jealous mark? envy, our greatest sin.

THE 10th COMMANDMENT-(coveting)
Exodus 20:17 “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s.”

you should read the Bible mark.

God says homosexuality is an abomination! period, get over it and leave the heterosexuals alone and stop the rhetoric.

The Bible contains 9 specific references to homosexuality: 4 in the Old Testament (Genesis 19:1-25; Judges 19:22-30; Leviticus 18:22; andLeviticus 20:13) and 5 in the New Testament (Romans 1:24-28; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:8-11; 2 Peter 2:6-10; and Jude 7). The passage in Romans, in particular is so clear that it seems to have been written by St. Paul in anticipation that people might challenge the idea that homosexual behavior is wrong (in case you don’t get it, let me make it perfectly clear!). In addition, there are numerous other passages that touch on this topic indirectly through comments on the biblical view of marriage and family, promiscuity, and sexual purity. Included in these references areGenesis 2:18-25; Proverbs 18:22; Mark 7:21, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5;Romans 6:13, 13:13; 1 Corinthians 6:13, 18-19; Galatians 5:19-21;Colossians 3:5; Revelation 21:8, 22:15.

Dr. Smith – I agree!

You left out “THOU SHALT NOT STEAL”.

The successful are typically rewarded for their efforts. I expect the slackers to be resentful. Success breeds envy.

YEP! Basic stuff I learned as a child.

Well Mark, the fact is, it is people like you that put a man with a depraved mind in a position of power, over an over an over again. And exactly how you would expect do get a different result, boggles the adult mind.

Go back and study your history, specifically the Roman Empire. You may learn something about the consequences of perverted mindset.

Well said APN!!

Many of the heterosexuals I know have much more “depraved” minds than homosexuals. Homosexuality of itself is not a depraved condition. Irrational prejudice against them, is.

Well Mark, you’re wrong. Homosexuality is a perversion of the human body, the vessel given to us by the creator. That perversion will result in many many consequences, and unfortunately, they affect others outside of the individual performing the act. What comes out of the bottom end of the human being is call “waste” and it is a material that is highly toxic and carries numerous diseases. Only a depraved mind could not understand that fact. In fact, it would be less risky to eat garbage out of the local neighborhood dumpster. I’m sure it would be cleaner and that is the FACTS not some progressive nonsense based upon Billiary’s politically correct daycare mentality.

Nope. Sorry Mike… homosexualism happens to be a mental disorder and a learned behavior. There is no such thing as a gay-gene, therefore you were not born “that way”… sorry lady googoo… There is nothing irrational about this except your argument. Homosexualism is not natural since it produces no branches on a family tree. Your gene pool ends with you, which is not what a gene pool is DESIGNED to do. Put this in your box of irrational fears of heterophobia, so go sit on some street corner and “occupy” it with your liberal socialist friends…

APN, this may be your opinion but fortunately we do not live a theocracy, although many of the born-againers on this site wished we did. Because of this our homosexual citizens, many of who serve in our military, by the way, and have for centuries, as well as in all other walks of life, have full constitutional protections. Religious bigotry against them by you and others does not change this. I am grateful that I live in a country where the hateful religious prejudices of others cannot impinge upon the rights of our citizenry. This came about after a long struggle by people of conscience to end all forms of discrimination in our land.

Mark, Mark, Mark!!! Never said anything about Barney Frank not having his constitutional rights. Re-read what I said and show me where I stated that?

Religious Bigotry???? That is YOUR interpretation my friend. You can throw your little PC puppet words at me all you want and it really amounts to nothing of any substance. In fact, I think all we adults have long since grown tired of the brow beating by the self-anointed holier than thou progressives that have never taken any responsibility for their actions.

Homosexuality is an abomination of the human body and none of your PC daycare mentality will change that fact. Live the perverted lifestyle and suffer the consequences of your perverted behavior……that simple. Facts my friend, nothing personal or hate filled about it. Just plain facts!

Grow up and get a job!

You moron mark, commie limp-wrist POS. Nothing you said, say or ever will say has any relevance. Pretend to educated all you want, but it doesn’t hide the fact you are irrelevant. You and your little leftie/progressive/commie mind will ever mean anything in the world of thoughtfull conservative HUMANS.

There are mediacal and psychiatric cures for your sexual identity crisis mark. Get help.

mark, you don’t know ANY hetrosexuals.

Let’s put it this way APN and a few others. You are beyond hateful and very discriminatory and I know you will never admit it. You can’t say someone has Constitutional rights when you constantly try and deny them their rights. Patriot proved it all in his rant and that leaves me wondering what species of human he belongs to.Do you really think conservatives want to claim you?

Well mark, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Homosexuality is an Abominationto God. It is depravity in its entirety. Satan never rests.

EddieISM said: Let’s put it this way APN and a few others. You are beyond hateful and very discriminatory and I know you will never admit it. You can’t say someone has Constitutional rights when you constantly try and deny them their rights. Patriot proved it all in his rant and that leaves me wondering what species of human he belongs to.Do you really think conservatives want to claim you?

Eddie my man, you are making my case about you holier than thou progressives way to easy, my friend. You assume much and understand very little. This appears to be common thread with the progressive mindset.

Never once in my life have I denied anyone of anything when it comes to their choices in life. Someone’s sexual choice is none of my business until THEY make it my business. If you think that Gay is OK then good for you. If you have a Gay person running for a position of power, and you like them, then vote for them.

Now, I would expect the same respect of choice that I just gave you. I do not agree with the lifestyle because of the aforesaid reasons therefore I question a person’s judgement that would willingly and knowingly DAMAGE their bodies. Not to mention the LONG list of diseases that can be transmitted to other people. In the same way, I would not vote for a drunk or a pothead or someone that would CHEAT on their Spouse because it demonstrates a lack a basic good judgement that would not be conducive with a position of leadership. Example: Bill Clinton

Now, you can attempt to assert yourself as someone that is on HIGH MORAL GROUND all you want but it will not change my opinion of the subject matter nor do I care if you like that or not.

In other words, the brow beating attempts about my opinion of things in life, by the self-proclaimed progressively SUPERIORS in this country , is MEANINGLESS and is of no consequence to me nor do I place any weight on your misguided opinions.

The truth hurts eh! Libtard mark! Your F*ggot crooked Libtard pal caused the housing bubble to pop like a zit, So why don’t you crawl back to your libtard hate site dailykos!

I see more hate and judgment on this site than any other. Just listen to yourselves!

Typical pervert reaction. Talk about bitter and hateful !!!

Mark, you are a gay, bitter, hateful, propaganda spewing, communist, occult m’rf’r. The truth doesn’t hurt you because you are from the parallel universe where everything is the opposite of everything we in the universe knows to be good and love related. You are the bottom of the barrel and you probably are evil and know it well too. You know God exists but you still seek the devil, because perhaps God has put you here to challenge us. Many of you exist submerged like alligators or hidden spiders, waiting for your next victim, usually Christians who abhor your ways. You write to posts like this to piss us off but we run right over you. Your team will lose the war; it’s already known. I’d wish you luck but it wouldn’t do you any good.

The Pwesident fuwwy swupowts Bahney Fwank.

Actually Little Barry the communis homosextual is one of them.

Yeah, like straight politicians don’t screw the American people a thousand times more! What planet are you living on? Virtually all the crooks in American politics and on Wall Street are heterosexuals. Only gay people steal? The idiocy on this website never fails to amaze me.

Mark, that’s because MOST people are heterosexual! Politcians of all stripes and all sexual proclivites take advantage of people!

THAT should be ‘proclivities’…!

If we can rid of the gays and the Communist, we could fix the economy and the moral compus of America.

The problem isn’t the gays and the Communists. It is the straights and the Capitalists. They – the corporate elite – are the ones who screwed America! Have you opened a newspaper in the last 3 years? Highway robbery by rich, white, heterosexuals on Wall Street rewarded with billions in bonuses.

Mark…Are you still looking at a NEWSPAPER? That is the MSM! Again,(I’ve said this before) don’t look at the MSM at all – Look at a number of things on the internet and you will soon tell that the Pubs and the Dims are two sides of the same coin…Politicians of all stripes will use ‘the people’ because that is what they do – they don’t manufacture anything except hot air!

Mark Mark Mark, how can you say that those greedy crooks on wallstreet were all straight? That’s a pretty blatant stereotyping of an entire group.

hey mark…are you talking about the Obammer bailouts for wall street?? just want to make sure…they did get HUGE bonuses last year…oh and gee…i think Fanny & Freddie did TOO…….hmmm..and just WHERE oh where did that $$$$ come from, huh??

Mark, are you referring to Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all of the other straight IPO beneficiaries. Oh, I’m not too sure about Obama’s sexual preference.

70% of the wealthy wall streeters are progressive democrats… whether they are bankers, politicians or corporatists.

Oh, please, don’t make me laugh so hard; my stomach hurts!

You and me both, Karolyn. I tell you, sometimes I get on here and start reading, I can”t post because of laughing my head off. My mom hears me and wants to know what I’m laughing at! I’m talking good gut laughter. I’ve said it on here before. If you’re feeling a little down, come here and read. You will soon forget your trouble.

I’m glad to see him stepping down before death opens up the seat for an appointed democrat, but Maxine Watters as the next in line, my G-d the depth of ineptitude in that committee is DEEP. Hopefully the Rep. will regain control and let her continue in her role as….nothing.

agreed…dumber than a box of rocks would be the understatement of the century!

She would tell you “GO TO HELL” or “SUH, SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP”. Those are two of her pseudo intellectual statements.

W:

Personally I would rather concentrate on removing all the Communists that have snaked their way into our great Republic, but it is good that the litle criminal will be gone. Maybe we can get him into a jail cell before he dies.