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The Plot To Make Hillary President

November 25, 2011 by  

The Plot To Make Hillary President

Here’s some news that could turn the entire election upside down. Leading Democrats are urging Barack Hussein Obama to withdraw as a candidate for re-election in 2012, as Lyndon Baines Johnson did almost 50 years ago.

The campaign to get Obama to quit the race kicked into high gear on Monday, when influential Democratic leaders Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen wrote a lengthy piece for The Wall Street Journal on why Obama should withdraw. Here’s part of what they said:

“[Obama] should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president’s accomplishments.”

Who would they have run instead? Get ready for their totally predictable pitch:

“He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.”

I’ll spare you the hundreds of words that follow as the two Democratic pollsters make their case “as patriots and Democrats.” Let me go directly to their conclusion:

“If President Obama is not willing to seize the moral high ground and step aside, then the two Democratic leaders in Congress, Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, must urge the president not to seek re-election—for the good of the party and most of all for the good of the country. And they must present the only clear alternative—Hillary Clinton.”

The Democrats’ political idol, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, said: “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” Does anyone want to bet that this is all part of a plan?

On to part two of my “you’d better hope this doesn’t happen” scenario. I have a neighbor I like to call a yellow dog Republican. He doesn’t care who the Republican nominee is; he’d vote for a yellow dog, if necessary, if the cur could beat Obama.

My friend’s greatest fear is that Donald Trump will spend $100 million of his own money on a third-party candidacy. “That is all it would take,” my friend is convinced, “to guarantee a Republican defeat.”

I’m not so sure I agree with him. I’d like to think that enough voters will see past The Donald’s enormous ego and inflated self-importance and cast their votes more wisely. But there is no question that Trump would love all the media attention and public adulation he would receive if he ran.

No question, The Donald would make the race more interesting. Will he be the spoiler who keeps Barack Obama in the White House? I don’t think so. But we’ve got almost a full year ahead of us; surely there will be other surprises: some pleasant, some unpleasant.

Lastly, let’s review what seems to be a terrible case of self-induced suicide on the part of potential Republican nominees. It began with Rick Perry’s embarrassing brain freeze, when he could remember only two of the three Federal agencies he wants to abolish. (The biggest laugh of the evening came when Ron Paul, standing next to him, leaned over and offered to list five agencies that should be done away with.) Perry’s gaffe, along with a few less-serious stumbles, led to a flash-crash in his polls.

Then there’s poor Herman Cain. When asked what his policy would be regarding Libya, for a while he looked like he didn’t even know it was a country, much less where it was. Cain is the first to admit that he’s not a foreign-policy maven, but surely he can do better than blank out. Can’t he recite rehearsed sound bites for at least a minute or two?

I will say that he seemed to get bigger, stronger and tougher when he was asked about the four women who have accused him of sexual harassment. I wonder how many people believe his denials. Do you think most people believe that where there’s smoke there must be fire? Oh, and does anyone find it curious that all four of his accusers come from Chicago? Remember what FDR said about a plan.

That brings me to the coming-from-behind, white-haired wonder who is challenging Mitt Romney at the top of the polls. A few months ago, Newt Gingrich’s candidacy had been written off for dead — not just by many observers, but by almost all of the people on his staff, who deserted him en mass.

Gingrich certainly has proven the importance of persistence, hasn’t he? He’s also proved the value of a brilliant mind and a glib tongue. When he asked one audience whom they would prefer to see debate Obama, he knew he would be the odds-on favorite. Even I would like to see that.

But poor Newt; like Desi Arnaz used to say to Lucille Ball, he’s got a whole lot of ’splainin’ to do. He can start with why Freddie Mac paid his think tank more than $1.6 million for some “consulting” work. The idea that Gingrich was paid $30,000 an hour to give a history lesson — which was his first explanation — is so ludicrous that it’s hard to believe he said it with a straight face.

Whatever you think should happen, we’ve got a long way to go. The first primaries are almost two months away; the nominating convention is more than six months hence. There are certain to be a lot more blunders, baloney and BS between now and then.

Still, if you’ve got a favorite, better increase your efforts (and your contributions) now. Whoever it is needs all the help he or she can get.

More on this next week. Until then, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Ted Crawford

    The fact of Hillary running should not come as a surprize to us. Many of us, after the fallout from his first 18 months in office, predicted something like this. It will, however, be surprizing if it happens in this manner! I expected that about June, Hillary would resign and declare her intent to run in 2012. For a person with the giant ego of Obama to willingly step aside streaches the imagination!

  • blif

    Really Vandon?????????? We sure don’t need a young
    and dumber in office… They don’t know their ass from
    first base… I agree we need to get rid of the old
    farts in there on both sides… But be careful of those
    politically correct, gay pride, green lovers, alien conforters,
    anything goes dumbass young and dumber. I sure as hell
    have not seen anything out of them … That is one thing
    that put that dumbass Obama in…. BE CAREFUL !!!

  • Bojay

    The total Narcissistic Ego of our ‘Neo-Mahdi’ Marxist-Moslem Schooled president will not allow him to step down – especially for a mere pseudo-woman like La Clinton. Even in his own exalted view of himself. he will never be pragmatic. If enough States would challenge his legality to stand again, he could be ousted. But absolutely no one has the guts to stand up to this megalomaniac. Remember there are more idiots of voting age in the U.S.A. than intelligent, or knowledgable voters.
    Literally anyone would be preferable than Barry Soeterro a.k.a Obama.
    But Mistress Clinton is not that one – her alegence is also elsewhere – other than the genuine to the people of the U.S.A. She is the would be Queen of the One Worlders !
    Barry Obama like another person in the ruins of Berlin in April 1945 would much rather go down in flames. Festruction too is his thing !

    • PATRIOT 101

      Obamna will stay in the race Raising money for himself and the DNC. He likes the job of “Campainer in Chief”!
      About July-Aug. next year, he will hand the ball to Hillary. Probably during the Republican convention to steal all the media away from the republicans. No “Convention Bump” that way, It will all go to Hillary!
      It is a very great probablility that Hillary will win.
      Buy more bullets!

  • Jose Rodriguez

    So this is the next plan of the GOP, after having AIPAC keeping GOP in congress from letting any jobs bills pass, dong the mariguana thing, social security to blame his administration and still cant beat the man,LOL Romney is a jew puppet!

    • s c

      Hey, you skunk-diddling, *%^+ @*^, when is the last time a human being called you a RACIST, hypocritical
      *$&*#?

    • Ted Crawford

      Imagine this! Racist rhetoric from someone with a minoriety surname! How surprizing ? Not very!

      • JUKEBOX

        This is a prime example of liberal DUPLICITY.

    • Vagabond

      and what the hell are you jose??

    • Kane Bittner

      @Jose. No place for that raciest s**t here Bud. Take it home.

      • JUKEBOX

        The proper term for Jose is ANTI-SEMITIC, which is really scary.

      • Joe H.

        JUKEBOX,
        Nah, not scary, just real STUPID!!! Ignorance always tells!!!

  • Michael J.

    Hello Chip,
    If democrats are suggesting unleashing “The Hildebeast”, it’s surely a last gasp measure evolved out of desperation in an effort to hold on to the reigns of power, not to save the country as we know it.

    First of all it will never happen, power hungry liberal progressives like Obama never relingquish power until death do they part. With staunch determination, they intend to die in office, like FDR and Ted Kennedy.

    On the other hand, though The Hildebeast has vowed not to run, we all know the lure of dangling the POTUS-ship in front of such a hungry beast. When primevil intinct bust forth from the cerebral cortex taking the form of unstoppable rage in diplomacy, all bets are off.

    • JnBrwn

      she will win in 2016. r u sad :(

  • Old Henry

    Those Democrat pollstrs are RACISTS and if the dems force out Little Barry they will be shown up for the racists they are.

    Newtie also shot himself in the foot last Tuesday with his immigration remarks.

    Mr. Cain has been oh so focused on our economy and his fix(es) that I think he simply overlooked anything of foreign nature.

    Was Harry Truman forced out, or did he simply decide to bow out in ’52?

    I can still remember LBJ’s bow-out speach in ’67. I was a kid (teenager) and could see the absolute evil in that guy from the very start. I wonder if he would pick up Little Barry by the ears?

    • JUKEBOX

      Henry, you are so confused. The RACISTS and RACIALISTS are sitting in the OVAL OFFICE, and on the Democrat side of the aisle in Congress. All you have to do to realize this is to listen to them, especially whe they call the Mulattos BLACK, reverting to the pre civil rights definition of BLACK.

      • JnBrwn

        fyi mulattos dont like to be called mulattos. it’s basically an insult. read a book. if you can

  • blif

    ANYBODY BUT OBAMA OR CLINTON………….

  • Frustrated

    NO!
    I have always been conservative, but: Do not settle for Romney or Cain or Perry or Gingrich. Haven’t we had enough?
    I for one will vote only for Ron Paul, the sole candidate who truly stands for productive change.
    If Dr. Paul is not the Republican nominee, I would just as soon support BHO.

    • Ted Crawford

      How sad for you! If Dr. Paul runs, it will be as a third party candidate. You arte correct though, any vote for Ron Paul will, in deed be a vote for Obama!

      • Average Joe

        I wrote and posted this a few months back, but like to repost from time to time.

        If it weren’t such a serious matter, it would be almost funny…listening to everyone complaining that this candidate did this…or that candidate did that ( as if the things that they complain about are something new….they aren’t).
        Then, when anyone points out that there is one candidate out of the whole batch ( both sides)….(with a 30 year history to prove it)..who has never done any of these things, who has always been honest, forthright and a defender of the Constitution….someone who has stood up for smaller, less intrusive government, sound currency and personal freedoms…….everyone goes wild … calling the man everything except…a viable candidate.
        Why is that?
        It is obvious to me ( as it should be to everyone else) that what we have been doing….ISN”T WORKING…..and maybe…just maybe, it’s time to take a new approach to the way this nation is beng run. Maybe, just maybe it’s time to stop electing “business as usual” “mainstream” candidates….who continue to run our nation into the ground while ignoring the will of the people and the rule of law.

        If we were to elect Dr. Ron Paul, could he really be any worse than what we’ve had over the last 40+ years (both sides)? If we were to elect him and he doesn’t make changes that positively affect our nation….can we not vote him out in another 4 years?

        Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over…and expecting to get a different result. Isn’t it time that we stopped the insanity?
        While I am not asking anyone to vote for any particular candidate, I will ask that you spend more time actually looking into all of the candidates’ backgrounds ( voting records, campaign finances…who they’ve made deals with etc.). learn everything you can about the candidates (not the MSM talking heads versions…do the research yourselves), so that on election day….you can make an informed decision about who you want to represent you in government….

        Remember, what they do is a direct reflection on us…..if they do foolish things….it makes us look like we elected foolish people….which means we look like fools for electing them in the first place.

        I don’t know about anyone else, but I am tired of the insanity and will be casting my vote for Ron Paul.
        You can say that I am wasting my vote….well , I guess that’s OK….it is after all…MY….vote……it doesn’t belong to any party or candidate….it belongs to me …to cast as my conscience dictates.

        I hope eveyone makes informed decisions concerning our future as a nation.

        The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
        John F. Kennedy

      • OB1

        Ron Paul is a registered Republican. Perhaps you are not ware of this fact. He is the Republican senator from Galveston, Texas. You have to be registered as a Republican to vote for him in the primaries in most states. Google RonPaul2012 dot com and please educate yourself as to his viewpoints and voting record that have been consistent for over 30 years.

      • JnBrwn

        yes he is a fine example of babbling bull of completely unrealistic goals

    • Patty

      All of you people who want Ron Paul and/or want him but think that Ron Paul does not have a chance, you had better get involved BEFORE Nov 2012. All of the rest of the people calling themselves conservatives will be sheeple and follow you to a Ron Paul presidency. If everyone who wants Ron Paul or who does but doesn’t think he has a chance, BE AT YOUR PRIMARY AND VOTE. Otherwise, you will see Mitt on the ballot come Nov. Ron can always assign Newt as a foreign affairs person.

      • PATRIOT 101

        Time to support RON PAUL is NOW! We caucus in Iowa in only 5 weeks!
        Donate now to RON PAUL, as a donation now will be worth 1000x as much as if Ron Paul must run as a Third Party candidate!
        Ron Paul is organized and doing well in Iowa. Support him now until it hurts, as it will hurt much worse later if he is not nominated!

      • JnBrwn

        Ron Paul. Nader style spoiler that will get O re-elected. thank you goober nation

  • shirley

    Ron Paul “ya’ll”

    • OB1

      I agree. Amen.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLIniois

    Clinton and obummer are the same i dont want either of them.

    • JUKEBOX

      George Wallace used to say “THEY ARE LIKE TWEEDLE DEE AND TWEEDLE DUM, THERE’S NOT A DIME’S WORTH OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM”.

    • TJB

      At least Hilary is a true citizen of this country! I don’t like either of them, but I think Obama is worse than Hillary.

  • Charles

    Obama is a sly old fox. By signing the tax break for companies that hire Veterans. Have you noticed how his wife and Joe Biden’s wife are cooing the military? Always remember,you may wring a chickens neck but he isn’t dead till he stops moving. I am not a Obama fan nor Hillary, but this race is going to be closer than most people think

    • OB1

      This is a weird story, but totally true. One time, we cut the head off a chicken that we wanted to clean, cook, and prepare ourselves. I’m not making this up. After the chicken got it’s head cut off, it broke away and ran around for minutes! I suppose that is where the old saying comes from, “running around like a chicken with it’s head cut-off”! Again, I swear I’m not making this up. Please stay focused on solutions and what can be done. This two party axis of corruption is running around like a chicken with it’s head cut off. Scared people make hasty and unwise decisions. Jesus says in Matthew 10:16: “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, therefore, be wise a serpents and gentle as doves”. Keep your wits and stay focused.

  • vandon

    We really are a dumb nation. I just realized that we are really dumb for who we elected as the present president, and that we would even think about putting the other part to the destuction of the United States by electing Clinton who would be far werse then what is in there right now. I just can’t believe how stupid we really are. This lady would not only take our guns from all of us, but she would keep the health care in effect and all the other dumb efforts to distroy the nation that Noboma has in there right now. We need to distroy the democatic party and kick them all out of office. Any one who has been in politics for over 10 years needs to go home and get a real job and find out just how tough it is out there. I predict that no matter who they run for president, the Republican party will not only clean but in the house and the senate, but will also run away with the presidentcy I don’t care who is running for president on the republican side. The Democrates are finished thanks to the crooks that they all are. We need to clean house and bring in new faces and get rid of the old faces like Cain. I love the guy and I thank him for all he has done but it is time for him to step aside and let some younger new ideas into his seat. And there are many more that needs to step down before we take them down!

    • Almerin

      I agree. “The masses are asses.” We are a dumb nation because of the government near-monopoly on a failed and unfixable educational system. Our kids think in video-pictures, have a major deficit of useful information, form social sub-networks of think-alikes and can no longer reason, discuss or analyze critically. So, lacking language, reason or compassion, they resort to pejoratives, name calling and gutter language to make a point. They grow up to become adults as represented by many of the posts on this site.

      • Trude

        Agree, Almerin. Notre Dame sociologist Christian Smith wrote “Lost
        in Transition” showing how students now are TRAINED in NOT to be able
        to tell right from wrong or understand ethics or moral codes.
        But they can vote, and are we not living with the result ?

      • OB1

        Don’t forget video games, Facebook and TEXTING! I am NOT making this up: yesterday at Thanksgiving dinner, I was at a family member’s home, 30 somethings. I could not help but notice this very intelligent and kind 13 year old girl texting on her phone under the dinner table! After dinner, I spent time with her. I asked her what was up with her and what her opinions were. She was utterly delighted! She spoke with me for over 30 minutes! When she was done spaking, I told her a story from recent family history…just one. She said to me, “That’s why I really like you..you always ask me what I’m doing and what I think. Her wonderful mother is a teacher in a public school. Critical thinking has been removed from public school. Period. The mother, who has gone from teaching first grade to 6th graders in a very rough school has had to become very strong and tough to keep up with “NO Child Left Behind” requirements, as well as the inability to discipline the gang members that are in her class. Her commitment to education in the areana really inspired me. It would be as if you were a carpenter and went to work with no hammer nor saw (unsafe, could cause an accident). Disgusting. Sad. End the Department of Education.

    • wally stewart

      Subject: Who is buying companies making guns(Remington, Bushmaster,etc)???? For the last several years a company called The Freedom Group has been buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers.Some of the companies are Bushmaster,Marlin,Remington,DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some people worry that this Freedom Group is going to control most of the firearms companies in the United States . If you control the manufacturers you can decide to stop selling to civilians.What a perfect way to control guns. Now if you do somedigging you will see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital Management. Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS !!!!!!!!! One of the most evil men on this planet who wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out.Why have we not heard about this in the “mainstream” media? I would think this would be BIG news.

      • Marty S.

        Good job Wally, follow the money and we get our answers. Stock up while we are still able to do so cuz George has other plans.

      • Helen2

        Wally, just wanted to let you know this is not true. There are enough things going wrong without forwarding things that aren’t true. The information was from the website Truth or fiction

        The Truth:
        A company spokesperson with Cerberus Capital told TruthOrFiction.com that they have no affiliation with George Soros.

        The Freedom Group is a branch of Cerberus Capital that, according to their web site, provides “firearms, ammunition and related products to a diverse set of global customers and markets.” Among their brands are Remington®, Bushmaster® Firearms, DPMS/Panther Arms™, Marlin®, H&R®, The Parker Gun™, EOTAC™, Mountain Khakis®, Advanced Armament Corp. ®, Dakota Arms® and Barnes® Bullets.

        There was also an October 12, 2011 article in Field and Stream debunking the “evil plan of George Soros” and his alleged ties with Cerberus Capital. The author, David E. Petzal, examined the list of board members on the Cerberus web site and reported that, “George Soros is nowhere listed on the company’s roster of officers, as is required by law.” Click for Field and Stream article.

        Among the board members at Cerberus Capital are former Republican Vice President Dan Quale and George W. Bush’s former Secretary of Treasury John W. Snow.

      • JnBrwn

        evil men hate guns. riiiight

  • spxz

    Obama will not step down. The Chicago way means “no retreat”. The only way out is the Jimmy Hoffa way. Besides, the man is an incompetent moron with more ego than brains. But the big issue will be changes in the Senate. There will be huge changes there. The American people are not stupid. They see Reid, Durbin, Schumer, and Pelosi, Wasserma-Schultz in the House as nothing more than ‘talking heads’ reciting the talking point of the day. That does not fix the problems in the country. The number one problem is overspending. Cut the spending and jobs will appear. In droves. Business wants long term stability. Then, repeal Obamacare and replace it with a law that is actually a law written to reduce costs. Obamacare is a lie, and the people know it. It was NEVER about reducing costs. It has INCREASED everyone’s costs, and caused huge job losses. The people are not stupid. They know Hillary is no real choice to fix things. The democrats can kiss the house and senate goodbye.

    • skyraider6

      Amen to that, spxz

    • JUKEBOX

      Comparing his brainpower to his ego is like comparing a grain of sand to Stone Mountain in GA.

    • PATRIOT 101

      Soros can make Obama run, hide for the rest of his life! He has the proof and the media network to destroy Obama in a heartbeat! Soros has the proof Obama is a fruad! Probably has the real birth certificate!
      Obama will take his campain money and dissapear!

      • OB1

        Did you notice that when Chelsea Clinton got married, it was in the extra summer home of George Soros? Did you also notice the Obama’s were not invited? The Obamas were also not invited to Prince and Kate Middleton’s wedding in England? Odd, very odd. Gives me the creeps.

    • JnBrwn

      but the job creating tax cuts 10 yrs ago lost jobs. any more ideas or are you just here to talk sh–?

  • Oscar

    Hmmm, Michele Obama’s new found pride in America has coincided with my increased disillusionment with our government….make that dysfunctional government.

    • JUKEBOX

      Michelle and Jill Biden have a new found interest in NASCAR. That proves how desperate these people are. They must have seen all those NASCAR jackets in the ghetto.

      • wally stewart

        MAYBE BUT NASCAR FANS BOOED THE HELL OUTTA THEM 2 TO LOL

      • wally stewart

        THEY BOTH GOT BOOED BADLY AT THE NASCAR RACE

      • Patty

        And yet she, “Would do it again to support our troops”. Unbelievable.

      • eddie47d

        Michelle and Jill have done much in support of our troops so what is your real point!

      • Patty

        Name one thing they have done that was not a photo-op or to try to get a vote.

      • eddie47d

        They have both visited wounded soldiers and also have pushed for jobs for returning Veterans. You are one sour woman Patty!

      • http://deleted Claire

        I think Jill Biden is an attractive lady. Very pretty and sharp looking.

      • Patty

        Eddie47 – Ya right. Obligatory photo ops. Sour, not in the least, love it sweet.

      • Patty

        Claire – WTF. What does, what she looks like have to do with representation or governance? Move to Hollywood and hang with all the beautiful people that live in la-la land.

      • http://deleted Claire

        patty–WTF back at you. Don’t attack me and tell me where I should live. La la land? What about yourself? Get off your high horse. I made a comment that Jill Biden was pretty and I stand by this comment. If you have a problem with this, then don’t read my posts and I sure as hell won’t read yours.

      • Joe H.

        Patty,
        Guess nobody told you. Claire is real easy to get along with, but bite at ther and she will bite BACK!! Rightfully so in most cases!

      • Patty

        Claire – I repeat and stand by what I said, what she looks like has nothing to do with the topic. This is not about a beauty pagent, Dancing w/the Stars, X Factor, etc. Fluff. This is about our Country.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Patty– I said Jill Biden was pretty. So what? Does this make me unpatriotic? Does this make me a traitor to America? Did I commit treason? I don’t think so. I am fully aware of what the discussion on this board is all about. So don’t try to treat me like you do the others you don’t care for and who don’t agree with you. I have no tolerance for this kind of garbage.

      • JnBrwn

        they were their to honor soldiers sissy boy

  • Pat

    Cain is not the man & neither is Trump, the right person for the job is not allowed to win as the good old boys will make sure of that & that is the true conservative Bachmann which is pretty sad that the good old boys cannot allow a woman to take over where they have messed up badly

    • sonny

      Pat: I agree with you wholeheartedly. The “goog old boys” as you call them (I prefer to call them creeps and liars) would never allow
      Bachman to win. I find it purely nauseating that with this country going down the drain, we can’t get someone in the W/H that could actually do some GOOD. We need a good old REVOLUTION and kick some liberal a**. Otherwise, they are going to finish DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY.

    • JUKEBOX

      We need a right wing conservative named “BARRY OBAMA” to run in the way Eddie Murphy ran for Senate in that movie several years ago. It couldn’t be much worse than what we have today.

  • del

    OMG not hillary and not the impostor squatting in the white house. Both have their noses up old soros’s butt. We must clean all of them out of our government including all the horrid czars, cabinet, 111th congress, appointees in this commie group and repeal all the crap signed by ovomit and written by his corrupt czars and incompetent dopeocrats

    • JnBrwn

      yet the Koch Bros. ass would smell like roses to you

  • Jimbo

    As usual, you, like all the media, seem to ignore Ron Paul as a possible alternative.

    • donbch

      Go Newt !!!

      • Mushin

        ANOTHER DUMB-ASS WHO’S GOING TO THROW HIS VOTE AWAY TO PUT ANOTHER CHEAT, LIAR AND CON-MAN INTO OFFICE! YEAH, GO NEWT! F**CKING IDIOT.

        THIS KIND OF BLINDNESS {IT’S ACROSS OUR COUNTRY} IS EXACTLY WHY THERE IS LITTLE HOPE OF ANY KIND OF REFORM….FORGIVE ME DON – YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT GINGRICH AND IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN’T VOTE FOR HIM.

      • Lastmanstanding

        Newt is a “conservative” obama…he will continue the same bs as the liar we have now… with more sweet talking psuedo-right crap.

        All dems and repubs are bought and paid for by the bankers…except for Ron Paul.

        All we need is to leave these people in office 1 more time…and the American people who have paid for all of this bs will remove them from office via the method provided by the US Constitution.

        The American people or those who want to remain Americans are the only chance of getting our country back…God bless Ron Paul for standing firm.

        That is my prediction.

      • http://yahoo ted

        WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT AND THE BUDGET WAS BALANCED,ITEREST RATES WAS LOW, EMPLOYMENT RATES WERE LOW DO YOU KNOW WHO WAS THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN CONGRESS WAS? NEWT GINRICH U MOROON! NACY PELOSI CAN KISS MY WHITE _ _ _.

      • Patty

        Newt has more baggage than Michelle O taking a vacation. He is also a RHINO. The best position for him my be to replace Hillary’s position.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Patty–true words, however, I would not want Gingrich in any government position.

      • OB1

        No. He’s a member of The Council on Foreign Relations, also a Bohemian Club member-attendee.
        Expose the bohemian club if you want freedom in America. Kennedy was not a member. In a speech just 10 days before his death he described them as “a vast and monolithic conspiracy”"that has amassed great resources of money and power”"has tenticles in every aspect of society”..well, with exposing statements like that, and his effort to end the fed….he was murdered. I will give Newt credit for being a masterdebator….he is very good at it.

      • Patty

        Here is why Kennedy was killed. If you are not into a lot of reading go to 1963 on the time line of the subject.
        http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

  • http://tinyurl.com/3j3j946 Timothy L. Singleton

    Still voting for Ron Paul.

    Also, while it is true that I want just about anyone else but Obama as the next president, Hillary is really no better.

    I would not object to seeing him step down, but I also want to see the LOSE.

    Tim

    • http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/ Tucci78

      I concur in your support for Ron Paul. Alone of all the Red Faction contenders, he’s got a solid grasp on every aspect of presidential responsibilities under the U.S. Constitution, from the dubious role lawfully to be played by our federal government in the national economy to a foreign policy that protects our national sovereignity instead of playing “Cops of the World” wherever and whenever some imperialist gets an itch.

      At the very least, he can remember which five Cabinet departments ought to be first to get zeroed out and permanently abolished, and he does know where Libya is.

      As for Mitt the Massachusetts RINO, how about we see what can be done to get a Republican at the top of the Republican Party ticket for a change?

      Be a nice change, wouldn’t it?

      • Patty

        VOTE YOUR PRIMARIES!

      • Joe H.

        Patty,
        Vote R. Paul in the primary, even as a write in!!!! Enough of us do it, He wins hands DOWN!!!

      • Patty

        Don’t worry, I’m there! Just trying to get others to do the same!

  • Free Mind

    MAKES SENSE TO ME. Obama can beat none of the GOP candidates. Hillary can beat them all. Is that to say that Hillary is awesome? Not at all;
    I AM SAYING THAT THE DUMBASS HERD DOES NOT KNOW ANY BETTER.

    • PATRIOT 101

      The republicans have a herd mentality? I thought it was more like a flock! A flock of docile sheep. Maybe worse yet! Like a stampede of lemmings, going from one candidate to another. Not doing the due diligence of their own research, rather relying on “talking heads” like C. Krauthammer, Ann Coulter, Dick Morris to choose for us “because they’re so smart”! The media is having a blast choosing our candidate so far.
      I encourage everyone to read up on the candidates and their records “on their own”!
      If you do the research, eliminate those that are connected like Siamese twins to the Federal Reserve, the UN, the other “Global” institutions, there is only one Constitutional Conservative left to take the fight to WHOEVER the dems (or Soros) decide to run.
      RON PAUL Jan. 3. 2012 (Iowa caucus) will be the wake up for the nation and the “talking heads”!

      • Patty

        Amen!

      • white tiger

        And, as a bonus, he will personally distribute free marijuana to your little ones.His motto will be, “Doctor Paul has a prescription for you!” And, as an MD he cannot plead ignorance of the effects of marijuana. On the plus side, though, when, as POTUS, he televised his whiny impotence, all men could see their evident superiority to The Most Powerful Man In The World, and enjoy the ego lift that provides!

      • Patty

        White Tiger – You are kind of a sick puppy. That is like the dems saying the repubs want dirty air, water, gut the schools, etc, etc. Get a clue, he is the only one not lying to us right now.

      • http://grassvalleytelevision.com Randy

        How dumb are you? Pot is a simple plant that does nothing like other drugs like alcohol. Maybe if we legalize it and tax it and put it above board we can bring back the DEA and put them on the borders to keep illegals out of the county. If you want to come to this country then get in line.

      • Joe H.

        white tiger,
        Show ONE QUOTE where DR. PAUL States he would give pot to CHILDREN!! Never mind, you CAN’T!!! You want to call out Dr, Pauls faults, fine! Just be accurate!!! if not, you are no better than the PROGS!!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        People will get pot irregardless. They always have and they always will, whether it is illegal or not. Same with guns. There are people that will be accountable and trustworthy, and there are people that abuse the issues. The “bad” guys will always have access to drugs/guns. It is a fact of life, no way around it.

      • Roberta Baxter

        I can only agree with you 100% since that is the best. Ron Paul has no corporate backing, no fed dealings, loves the Constitution, loves life, promotes dignity in his own life and politics too. He is constant in reponsibility, stand and honor for this country. Look up his 11 page document how he will reduce deficiet by 1 trillion in his term as president. No one likes getting hurt, but that will grab most everyone into at least realizing who has been on the take from the government because something will be limited or GONE. Those who don’t have enough will still be sheltered until they can be once again in a program to teach them new skills of living. Those skills might just be what line to go to next. Ron Paul will restore confidence in humanity that has been removed in the last 3 plus years. W. was no prize so we need to treat the symptoms of that administration too. Get behind the ONLY MAN solid enough to walk among us in the recovery; RON PAUL

      • Joe H.

        Roberta,
        He has even said he would cut the presidential pay by 30,000 dollars!!! His OWN pay!!!

  • Insurgent

    We need to get rid of the LFN and all 535 lying members in the US Congress plus the worthless Supreme Court.

    Washington DC is America’s cesspool for liars, whores, and thieves !!

    • donbch

      That is the cream of the crop for the libatards

    • JUKEBOX

      It will do no good to replace all 535 members of Congress and the President, as long as you have all of the Congressional staff members and other Bureaucrats firmly entrenched in the government system, resulting in “BUSINESS AS USUAL”, no matter who is in office.

    • wally stewart

      YOU GOT THAT RIGHT

    • Joe H.

      Insurgent,
      Don’t give them more ammunition AGAINST us, drop the LFN!!! Leave that kind of crap to the dems!!

  • Tazio2013

    Why would BHO withdraw when his November 2012 opponent will, in all likelihood, be Willard “Mittens” Romney who BHO, in all likelihood, will beat with the narrowest of margins?

    • Greg

      Then you better fight to keep Romney off the ticket. We don’t need another McCain RINO.

  • ALICE wOOLARD

    yOU ARE WRONG ABOUT herman cain, HE THINKS BEFORE SPEAKING, AND ALL PRESIDENTS HAVE ADVISORS,[BUT NOT AS MANY AS oBAMA]. iF NOT cAIN i WOULD VOTE FOR trump!!!!!! wE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER pOLICISTION BUT a MAN WHO KNOWS HOW TO MANAGE THE MONEY AND CREAT JOBS.

    • Mushin

      A VOTE FOR CAIN IS A VOTE FOR THE FEDERAL RESERVE! ARE YOU AN IMBECILE? CAIN HAS LIED REPEATEDLY ABOUT HIS POSITION WITH THE FED (AND WE ALL KNOW HE WAS A FED PRESIDENT) AND HAS SAID PUBLICLY THAT “ANYONE WHO WANTS TO AUDIT THE FED IS STUPID!”…..RIIIIIIGHHHHT. OR AT LEAST WERE NOT AS STUPID AS YOU ALLIE.

      ARE MY COMMENTS HARSH? PERHAPS, BUT THE SAD TRUTH IS A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUCH AS YOURSELF THINK YOU HAVE A CHOICE AND THAT YOUR CHOICE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE – AND THAT JUST AIN’T THE CASE….I’LL BET YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA DIDN’T YOU….HILLARY, CAIN, ROMNEY, IT WON’T MAKE A DIFFERENCE – WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DR. PAUL {MAYBE} WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR COUNTRY CONTINUE CAUSE THEY’RE ALL IN THE SAME CLUB!

    • Lastmanstanding

      herman Cain worked at the fed…that should be enough info for you.

    • white tiger

      First and foremost, Alice, we need someone literate.
      So, off goes your name from the list.
      Then, we want someone fully versed in the social sciences, who is
      virtuous and has a caring sisposition. Sanity is a plus.
      That eliminates all the Demonrats, most of the GOPhers, and some of the Tea Partiers.
      Can we find a guy with Gingrich’ smarts, Perry’s looks, Romney’s verbal capacity, Bachmann’s diligence, Cain’s social aggressiveness, Santorum’s empathy for backsliding US Senators, that guy from Miami’s religious hypocrisy, Paul’s commitment to keep all dopers loaded at all times, Huckabee’s sidewise thinking and Palin’s intellectual dysfunction? Add it up and it reads like:”Re-elect Obama!”.

      Lets see… will it be Taiwan, New Zealand, Singapore///

      • Joe H.

        white tiger,
        Ron Pauls honesty, his constitutionality, his voting record, his medical knowledge, his military smarts!!!! There’s more but I’m wearing out my fingers!!

    • http://deleted Claire

      Cain??? Ye gods, it will be a cold day in you no where before I would vote for this person.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Trump???? All I can say is OMG!! Another one I would never vote for!

      • Joe H.

        Claire,
        how about Mr. “Abummercare”Romney? Mr “flip flop” Perry?? Ron Paul is the only INFORMED CHOICE!!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        JoeH–Yes, Ron Paul is the one I will vote for. Romney, Cain, Perry, and Gingrich are people I would never consider. They have way too much baggage for me. And I truthfully do not trust them.

      • Harley

        Joe H.

        Right on Bro.. YOU have it ‘together’….

      • http://deleted Claire

        JoeH–Illinois Rep. Aaron Schock (R)has endorsed Romney. Condoleeza Rice has been here having fundraisers for Schock. I do not care for Schock, I think he is a RINO. I am disppointed in Condoleeza Rice. I thought she was better than this.

      • Joe H.

        Claire,
        I too, thought that Ms Rice had better judgement, but then look at who she was associated with!! Bush!! She, herself is more than likely a RINO as well!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        JoeH- Yup, another one bit the dust. I am done with her.

    • http://grassvalleytelevision.com Randy

      These threads leave out Herman Cain like he is not in the race. He is the only non-politician in the race.

      All these complaints were not sexual in nature one was about a “short” person who happened to be female. Regardless of these Chicago women accusations he is still the best option.

      Its pretty simple if you want a “Banana Republic” then vote for Obama. If you want to end the Pain vote for Cain.

      Its true lobbyists should become a crime worse then murder and the politicians payroll should be a set amount that can increase or decrease by how they run our government. If they want a raise then get us out of the red. If they want less money then keep the course we are on. With term limits.

      • Joe H.

        Randy,
        If you’re on the ball, vote for Paul!!!

  • RoBoTech

    Since Mar 2010, I have been saying Obama and his 40 thieves will not run again. BY April 2012, he will step aside and hand over his War Chest to Hilary.
    The excuses have been laid out over the last two years, and now this.
    Of COURSE it was the plan.
    Obama can not run again as Congress will have to step in on his eligibility, SSN fraud, and other High Crimes if he does.
    They will have NO choice but to do so, and it’s already been worked out.
    Why else has Obama been so lackadaisical and criminal in his Governance?
    VERY typical of a politician that knows he will not be around much longer, and has made a deal with the Devil , in this case, Congress.

    • Old Henry

      but….. but…. Hillary has SAID she does not want to run for / be president. She wouldn’t LIE to us, would she???

      • ccfonten

        Oh pooshaw! HIllary lie to us?? Never!
        Snicker, snicker, guffaw!

      • Joe H.

        O H<
        HAW,HAW,HAW,HAW,HAW,HAW,HAW!!!!!!!!!! Nope, NEVER!!!!

    • PATRIOT 101

      You only got it mostly right. Obummer will keep any (and all) money donated to HIS campaign. This will be his “payoff” not to run. He can’t get money donated to the DNC, that will go to Hillary.
      This (switcheroo) has been foretold by Glen Beck for nearly a year now.
      Soros is probably undecided yet who to run. He will make the call as he is the boss of both ‘Bummer and Hillary.

  • James Andrews

    Hillary Clinton would be just as bad or WORSE than Obama. She is a super leftist/socialist, who also wants the U.S. to sign onto the United Nations “Small Arms Treaty”, (a One World Order organizition), that could essentially gut our U.S. gun laws, and allow an international group of thugs “determine” our gun rights here in America. No way Jose! She’s an almost complete MORON, and along with Obama is very dangerous for the security of this nation.

    • http://Personalliberty M16ark1957

      That would be this country’s worst nightmare! Bill Clinton would also be deeply involved in the Whitehouse. They are rabid anti second amendment. Remember the Million Mom March, and the so called “assault weapons ban?” Renaming semiautos, and villifying these beautiful firearms into something that is going to float around in the room on its own and kill people. Also I’m leery about this national right to carry. I’m all for our rights, but this may be a federal government scheme to register nationally all gun owners.

      • sherry

        A Federal database of all concealed weapons permits is exactly what is going to happen M16ark1957. There is no way that local police departments will be able, in a timely and easy way, verify a person’s permit if that person is being checked out. Once the Feds have the database up and running (another new sub-department of the government), it will be a matter of time before there will be Federal laws restricting gun use and possible confiscation. Easy to do once they know who has the guns.

      • white tiger

        Good point!
        However, as Charlton Heston said…

      • big wyo

        they already know who owns guns but you are mostly right.

      • eddie47d

        M16Ark; Semiautomatic weapons are a “beautiful” thing? That would be an oxymoron. Since they are not of much use in an individuals self defense and are only used to kill many then there is nothing beautiful about them.

      • http://personalliberty,com 1911man

        You sir are not only being foolish, but also inacurate, the man said semi auto wich means 1 round fired with 1 pull of the trigger, unlike an automatic, also known as full auto wich means multiple rounds fired with 1 pull of the trigger. most modern guns are considered seim-auto including double action revolvers and have improved the ability for peoples self protection. I wuold rather have a semiauto gun when facing multiple attackers than say a muzle loader.

      • big wyo

        eddiet get a grip and drop the one your holding.

      • Joe H.

        big wyo,
        now how the heck will he get his exercise THAT way???

      • Pearlyam

        eddie47d you should hear what being said about you @ chat cite 22 Freez.

    • http://verizon.net budman

      I believe you are correct about her political affiliation and both she and her husband have are working hand in hand with the United Nations but the United Nations is only a part of a group in the New World Order.

      I don’t agree that she is a moron, rather a brilliant and very devious person just like Obama and with her experience would do more damage to our system of government than Obama was able to do.

      The Democrats see the possibility of Obama’s eligibility becoming an issue because they knew there was a problem well before he was elected and that the Republican candidate may make an issue of it. That may be a moot point. I said months ago that I believed a deal was made during the campaign to allow Obama to win the nomination and a one term presidency; that He would announce he would not seek a second term. They would wait until late in the game and Hillary would come to the rescue. Hillary was placed in the very position where pushing the objective for the United States to become part of the New World Order would be most be most effective. The back up plan of the New World Order group, in my opinion is the Republican candidate Rick Perry who, like George Bush, attended their meeting but refuses to discuss his association with them. The outside influence on who runs our government and other countries around the world are powerful with deep pockets.

      • JUKEBOX

        If you ever read Web Hubbell’s book, he quoted his father in law, Seth Ward, as saying; “HILLARY IS ONE TOUGH, MEAN SOB”, and he wished that he had a son like her.

      • ccfonten

        Yep, you think Rahm Emanuel is mean?? Hillary makes Al Capone look like a soccer mom!
        And as far as her and Bill’s political ideology and agenda….pure marxism all the way. She would be 60000000000 times worse than odumbo could ever be. She is way smarter, meaner, and more devious than odumbo and ALL his thugs combined.
        I believe she is Soros’ replacement for odumbo if he fails at the tasks given him by Soros. Remember, Soros did say that if odumbo couldn’t get the job done….he would find someone who could and would.

      • wally stewart

        aamen TO THAT HILLARY WILL RUN IF GEORGE SORROS SAYS SO

      • eddie47d

        Some of you need to fix your broken fiddles.

      • Joe H.

        eddie,
        And you need to fix your broken record AND your broken PRESIDENT!!!

  • s c

    To take a guess, the two who told Mr. Obama to ‘bow out’ haven’t calculated the size of the ego between his ears. He’s been busy, trying to polish his image as a combination of FDR reincarnated and an alien who can morph into whatever is needed at any moment. Other than a nation-destroyer, does anyone really know who Obama is yet?
    I’d like to know if Caddell and Schoen gave Billary equal time and told her to keep working on her Xenia image and her useful idiot bit part as a UN ‘double agent.’
    As for Trump, if he has plans to act like a spoiler, it will take an old-fashioned ‘offer that he can’t refuse’ to get his attention. We already have one McCain in the mix. Two would be like a double dose of hemlock.
    What matters is to clean out the White House and flush Congress. At the same time, drag those ‘Republicans’ [kicking and screaming] into the 21st century. They can always take their little red wagon and leave the playground. I’m tired of their galloping, delusional egos, too.

    • FreedomFighter

      What matters is to clean out the White House and flush Congress. At the same time, drag those ‘Republicans’ [kicking and screaming] into the 21st century.

      100% agree

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Flashy

        Obama will run. The GOP will nominate Romney. Obama will win in a landslide and the Congress will go Dem as voters prefer Obama’s policies and plans over the GOP plan to hack and slash the Middle Class and enrich the welfare deadbeats earning over $1 mil a year.

        ‘Nuff said. Doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.

      • http://libertyalert Frank J.

        Hey flashy you’re very cocky. talking trash on a site like this does conservatives well. When you talk like this it emboldens and enlightens me more to work to get obama out. thank you keep it up!.

      • Flashy

        Frank…I’m not talking trash. Plain fact. Tear it apart. of the GOP cadidiates, not one is presidential material. Can you honestly state, that with the exception of Huntsman, you would entrust this country in the hands of any of those buffoons? C’mon..give me a break.

        For the first time in probably the histroy of this country, you have the radical Right and the ultra left in sync with dissatisfaction about the state of this nation. Where the wealthy see incomes go up 300% in 20 years…and the middle class realize a 7% gain. Where the corporate powers report record profits, and massive employment layoffs. Wher the subsidies to the corporate welfare state do not decrease, but increase to augment the record profits.

        The GOP offers what? Nothing but the same policies which got us into this mess. heck…they’re going to hit the Middle Class with a tax hike in Decemebr by allowing the payorll taxes to go up…yet they will fight and bring this nation to the brink of economic collapse to preserve a special tax bracket for the wealthy.

        And..the topping to this absurdity is…the GOP labels the wealthy as “job creators”. That in and of itself ought to be the test for elimination from elected office. Think about it…the few ealthy could have miles of warehouses filled full of goods…and the country would be in economic malaise…because the real job creators are the consumers who buy the stuff.

        Simple economics.

        Just bring the tax rates to the levels of the 90′s. We had a booming economy. We had jobs and wealth galore. A balanced budget. I seem to recall the wealthy doing juist fine back then. Until the GOP and Bush II carved out that special tax rate for them and destroyed the surplus and balanced budget we were humming along just fine.

        But as it stands now…If Romney has a strong showing in Iowa, and takes new hampshire..it’s all over for who gets the GOP nomination. the only chance of taking out Romney is Huntsman. The toehrs have pretty much wasted any credibility of having the qualifications for President. And Obama will slaughter Romney in any general election.

        As for Congress? I see the GOp losing the majority in the House. Obama is beating the drum on Jobs jobs jobs. And not one GOP member is on board..except to stand and take credit for job creating economic projects he/she voted against in the first stimulus package.

        Chew on this for awhile. The BEST thing that could happen to the GOP if the Conservatives had any brains in their head is for the GOP to get slaughtered in the 2012 elections. Wholesale. For if the GOP retains control of the House…we’ll have continuing gridlock. if the Dems gain control, it won’t have a super majority and we will have deadlock. Under any scenario…one party has to get wiped out for anything to happen. Fact.

        If the GOP is so hell bent for leather believing the Democratic ideas are ruinious for this nation…then let them have at it for four years. And if the GOP conservatives are correct that the Dems haven’t the correct plan for the economy and the welfare of this Nation…the GOP will win the 2016 elections in a landslide and then they have their shot.

        Ptherwise, it’s deadlock ahead…unless the People realize that the only way is to give back to the Middle Class what the wealthy took away with the assistance, aid, and planning of the GOP.

        Ironic as it may sound, the TPers should join forces with the Occupy movement and usher in a super majority for the Dems in Congress and the WH.

        The GOp took a sound economy, a balanced budget, a surplus…and wasted it. Drove it into the ground to the point where the last Bush budget was the one .. in essence..we have today as far as size of deficit spending. The past three years the Conservative and the GOP have successfully fought any changes to the ruinious policies of the ’00s. If they had any honor or even a hint of honesty…they’d accept the blame for the failed policies they put in.

        And they say any plans the Dems have would be worse. Oh yeah? If such were true, let the Dems prove the TPer point. The reason there is so much virtiolic hate spewed rhetoric by the GOP against letting the Dems have a four year try and righting the ship is….well…because the GOP knows the Dems will carry the day and will prove the point…the GOP policies of failure really are failures.

        Chew on that today…

      • Tazio2013

        When are you white wing wackos going to wake up and accept that BHO has a high probability of continuing as POTUS until January 20th 2017 and none of those sorry christian conservative candidates have any chance of beating him in November 2012.

        And kudos to Flashy for an outstanding multi-paragraph “Chew on that today” statement of realpolitic, rational thinking and objective reality. All you WWWs are distressed and disoriented because you are going down in defeat with Willard “Mittens” Romney as your CCC standard bearer.

        Tuam libera mentem
        Sapere aude
        Semper fi!

      • mike wilson

        MY DEAR FRANK:
        I WOULD ADVISE YOU FIRST OF ALL TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL.BESIDES YOUR
        DISSERTATION WHICH IS NOTHING THEN A MARXIST BABBLE YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE 40% THAT CAN SEE NO WRONG WITH THE ANOINTED ONE.JUST LIKE
        ADOLPH HE WILL LEAD THIS ONCE GREAT NATION TO DESTRUCTION.

      • FreedomFighter

        Here you go Flashy, some truth for you:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5INFAuM1xI

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Kobra

        Right on Frank! If 80% of TRUE Americans VOTE in 2012 that COMMIE Muslim is Toast!! Lets get rid of him and his criminal Chicago GANGSTERS and let NUTE get our GREAT Country out of the mess that Oscummer has got us into!!!

      • Patty

        Flashy, I don’t know where you get your scewed facts from other than the democrat talking points flyer, but they are just about ALL wrong. It is very difficult to have an inteligent dialog with a typing puppet. Even the CBO says the Obama stimulus didn’t work. And why not? Because it kept gov’t. jobs a float for a while. He has not created any jobs other than maybe some gov’t. jobs. Those are not jobs. Those are payback favors to the unions, friends, etc. None are private sector. Unless you want to count Solyndra and the other green jobs companies that are going defunked on the tax payers dime. Love that Robert Kennedy one at 1.3 billion. Makes Solyndra look like pocket change. Just another money laundering scheme.

      • eddie47d

        I think Patty has her own puppet show going on. Solyndra failed because of fierce competition from China and not some money laundering scheme. Businesses fail and there are winners and losers in every deal so put that Republican sock puppet back in the drawer.

      • http://yahoo Edward

        Thanks Franf for telling Larry hes an sob.

      • Old Henry

        Thanks Freedom Fighter, that was a good link.

      • Patty
      • http://yahoo JAN

        GOOD SITE TO REVIEW

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player embedded

        AFTER WATCHING POST AS MANY TIMES AS YOU CAN AND FOWWARD TO
        ALL YOU E-MAIL LIST. THE MAYBE WE CAN WAKE UOP AMERICAN ABOUT THE FRAUD IN THE WHITEHOUSE.

      • talkinbout

        Re: Patty, Where did you find that the CBO said the stimulus didn’t work? According to the fact check sites, the cbo said that the stimulus created about 2.5 million jobs, kept the U.S. out of a full blown depression and lowered the unemployment rate by about 1.5%.

      • Joe H.

        Flashy,
        you forget your worst nightmare!!! Ron Paul!!! He CAN win the presidency as long as his supporters don’t give up hope and convince as many people as they can!! I’m making a list of the sites Mr. Livingston has posted and handing it out to all my friends!!! Even a few I don’t know!! He is the first pol I have donated money to since Reagan. I will support him, even to writting him in, and so will a good number of my family and friends!! run him with judge Napolitano and he has a real good chance!!

      • Patty

        For Talkin About- http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/obama-stimulus-fewer-jobs/2011/11/23/id/419003 What they state is that it didn’t create jobs, it sustained gov’t. union jobs for a time. It hurt the private sector, etc.

      • talkinbout

        Re: Patty, thanks for the link Patty. I guess the fact checking sites haven’t received the new report yet. We’ll have to wait and see what they have to say since their latest report is in conflict with what your link says.

        http://www.factcheck.org/2011/01/factchecking-the-gop-response/

      • Patty

        Talkin About – Your post was from Jan 2011. They were still talking about the hopefulls of the stimulus, not the facts. Plus, it is from the Annenberg Public Policy… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annenberg_Foundation Most sources we get information from is skewed. I like to check where the information comes from also. The site your information came from is VERY left leaning and comes from Bilderberg types.

      • APN

        T Eddie47D: You said, ” I think Patty has her own puppet show going on. Solyndra failed because of fierce competition from China and not some money laundering scheme. Businesses fail and there are winners and losers in every deal so put that Republican sock puppet back in the drawer.”

        Eddie, Eddie, Eddie! You can’t possibly be that stupid or think we are? Solyndra had already failed before the AMABO bailout!! This was nothing more than a political payoff. This is what happens when you bypass the constitution and empower Washington to pick winners and losers in a free market system. Why the heck is Washington involved in our private sector?? Given that, do think this may have something to do with the decline of America? DAH???? Welcome all to the world of “Progressive Stupidity”.

      • Jack

        I agree 100% keep IT UP, OH BY THE WAY , YOU FIRST HAVE TO HAVE A BRAIN FOR THE SURGEON TO WORK ON.

      • Shilo

        I agree but for reasons differing from you and ones I will not list.

        The Supreme Court can save U.S. with these ‘Ace in the Hole’ cards:
        1) The question of his citizenship
        2) The question of his S.S. #

      • Fly By Night

        For goodness sakes!!: He stole the SS# from a dead person whom lived long ago in Conn.

      • Ramona Callender

        you are all so right in a lot of ways. obama could get back in, then we will be a third world country. no more entrepreneurs, no more steve jobs, no more doctors, just people with their hands out waiting for their free money (obama money) and guess what……who will they get it from???? no one from here cause obama will have destroyed what AMerica is and everyone with any sense at all will have moved to another country along with their money. So yeah vote for the person who wants to destroy this country and then look in the eyes of your kids and say “I did this to you and your children” so suck it up……

      • Naotoua Vang

        I wasn’t born in the United States but my comment is that if Obama can be another Democrat presidency candidate for 2012, there is not just the congress drowning the country but ALL Americans are will to surrender and abolish the united States Constitutional Rights.

        I have difficult time to understand “WHY” most of Americans do not have any positive feeling toward the country but money wise and try to support destroying the birth system of this nation.

        This is my equation of governmental ideology: If any government of any country is looking for individual wealth then that country is always ended up to corruption, frustration, and most the time, it leads to disorder of citizen behavior. If any government of a nation is looking for LIVING WILL for that nation then its trusty will never be hijacked neither internally or externally.

      • moonbeam

        This is the crux of the whole matter concerning Obama. His not a natural born citizen of this United States and neither was his daddy.

        According to The Constitution, you as well as BOTH of your parents MUST be natural born citizens to be president.

        Obama received college money as a foreign exchange student, he traveled extensively with passports of which none say he is an American citizen. He was Kenyan when he entered the senate in 2004 and remains a Kenyan today. There is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, which would be great to find and would prove he is ineligible to be POTUS.

        About his SSN, it doesn’t pass eVerify. Additionally, the serial numbers on his COLB (certificate of live birth, is not a birth certificate) from Hawaii are out of sync with a pair of twins born after him. The COLB serial numbers are higher than the twins’ when they should be lower.

        With all of this information available for those who care to look, how in heaven’s name can somebody pull off such a highly treasonous crime and continue to get away with it? Who is helping him and what are they trying to prove?

        Not only should Obama step down, he is an illegal alien in the first place and cannot run for re-election. Biden is ineligible as well, in my opinion, since it was an illegal who chose him as his side kick. The office of presidency should go to the next elected official who was NOT put in by Obama, presiding until 2012 elections.

      • patrick H.T. paine

        ” To conquer, first DIVIDE! ”

        Correction for Moonbeam not it will matter:

        The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and
        various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise
        meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that he
        weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support
        the notion that the term includes means one who is entitled under
        the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth,” including any child born “in” the United States (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.[when?][1]

        The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court and lower courts, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate’s eligibility as a natural-born citizen.

        Source :wiki pedia.

        “Do not ask for whom the bell tolls………”

      • eddie47d

        Where are you moving to Ramona? Socialist Sweden and Denmark are doing well. How about tax haven Switzerland where you can live off of other peoples money? Maybe the new economic powerhouse China? So many choices for you!

      • http://yahoo JAN

        Shilo THE ANSWER IS HERE

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player embedded

        WATCH THE SEND TO ALL E-MAIL FREINDS. AND POST ALL THE TIME TILL AMERICA WAKES UP ABOUT THE IMPOSTER IN THE WHITE WHOUSE.

      • Michael J.

        Flashy,
        Sounds as though you are 99% sure of yourself. Are you taking a day off from the occupy protest today? Time will tell if you are correct or merely parroting perpetual notions scripted by your commie cronies.

      • Opal the Gem

        Flashy sounds a bit like ol flash-in-the-pants that used to post here.

      • eddie47d

        His comments had far more value than your short snippy dumbed down replies. That includes you Don and Henry please pay attention to the silly remarks made by the Right. Who is really sitting back and believing half of their swill?

      • Opal the Gem

        They are more belivable than the spoiled swill that even pigs hesitate over that comes from you eddie.

      • eddie47d

        Wise up Opal and pay attention to what both sides are doing. Give it a shot you might learn something.

      • Joe H.

        Learn from YOU eddie???!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!GOOD ONE eddie!!!!

      • http://google Don

        one thing is for sure flashy you are no brain surgeon.
        do you really read what you write,I am still laughing

      • Old Henry

        Don, maybe Flashy is simply a you-know-what stirrer upper and then sits back and whtches. (I worked with a couple of those) No one can realy be dumb enough to believe what he / she wrote, can they?

        Ahhh, scratch that. We have a communist foreign-national criminal OWH so it appears those people really are that dumb.

      • Old Henry

        What in the h*ll did you stuff your turkey with Flashy?

      • http://yahoo JAN

        WATCH THIS VIDEO EMAIL IT TO ALL YOU KNOW.
        AND POST EVERY DAY.

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKUUNP8D8&feature=player embedded

        THE MAYBE WE CAN WAKE UP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THIS POTUS MUST BE REMOVED.. Since Congress does not have the gonads to IMPEACH.

      • Thurman J LeNormand

        You sir can thank Obama and his Socialist cohorts which includes yourself for allowing this great country to sink further into the proverbial cesspool of the lazy, unintelligent, “You Owe Me”,” Feel Good, Crackpots with stretched out hands demanding more government dole! I owe you or the likes of you nothing! Do you GET IT! And by the way, the great majority of those rich millionairs that you demonize worked hard and intellegently to earn their million or millions and they help to create jobs! Obama has never created anything but a fake identity to masquerade as an American citizen to become president of the greatest country in the world.

      • eddie47d

        The thing is that the wealthy elites don’t always earn their money because they are too busy pirating from other rich elites to be creating jobs or haven’t you noticed.

      • Patty

        You are right Eddie 47 – So why has Nobama quadrupled down on that and crawled into bed with all of them? Oh, that’s right, your guy swings both ways in more ways than one.

      • eddie47d

        I guess he missed the opening invitation Patty.

      • Joe H.

        eddie,
        how’d he miss that initial invite?? Was it one of THOSE type from YOU????

      • APN

        T Eddie47d: You said: The thing is that the wealthy elites don’t always earn their money because they are too busy pirating from other rich elites to be creating jobs or haven’t you noticed.

        What dumb arrogance! Sounds like something AMABO would say. Are you wealthy? Are you an elite? Do you earn your own money or do we pay your way for you? How does one elite pirate money from another elite? Or do you mean Washington thugs pirating money from hard working Americans? You by far are the most foolish ignorant person on this blog.

      • Doug

        Hey Flunky here are some stats for you unlike the Marxist liers you follow here are true facts look them up flunky one!

        We have the line that tax cuts blew the lid off of our deficit. That’s funny, because during the last year a Republican budget controlled Congress (fiscal year 2007), the deficit stood at a minuscule $161 billion dollars. $161 billion! That’s at least five years into the tenure of those evil tax cuts. Moreover, as previously reported, federal tax receipts actually went up while the tax cuts were accelerating. In other words, the United States Treasury received more money not less because of the Bush tax cuts that we’re told ruined America’s economy.

        See for yourself:

        $1.88 trillion in 2004

        $ 2.15 trillion in 2005

        $ 2.4 trillion in 2006

        $ 2.6 trillion in 2007

        The last figure was actually the highest dollar amount brought into the Treasury Department… ever. That’s right, folks. While Democrats wail and whine about tax cuts as the main culprit for this country’s deficit woes, it turns out that we were bringing in bagfuls of money at historic proportions during that same time.

        Facts suck don’t they flunky now go back and be the flunkster that you are, go hang out with OWS punks!

      • Flashy

        Actually, the last Bush budget was 2009′s.

      • Patty

        And the democratic led congress the previous 2 years has not passed a budget since. Reid has a minimum of 15 house bills sitting in the senate that he refuses to address because it came from a republican house. This is where the democrats are going to use the do nothing republicans mantra, when in actuality it was the stone walling democrats in the senate.

      • Joe H.

        Patty,
        Actually, Reid has an estimated 28 jobs bills on his desk alone!!!

      • Patty

        The 15 was before all of the jobs talk. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit! WHERE IS THE MEDIA ON THIS? Of course there isn’t any. MIA.

      • JUKEBOX

        Flashy, it might not take a brain surgeon to figure it out, but it will take a lot of brain dead, hypnotized idiots to vote for Obama.

      • GINGER

        Golly, gee whiz…the middle classes’s only hope is for the Dems to lose..they are so ignorant the don’t know it is the Dems who want the middle class out .and yeah, the “deadbeats” who have money…must be occupiers are soooo hard working they no longer need to work,,,if they ever did to beging with.

      • Joe H.

        Ginger,
        Like I said on the other thread, my 21 year old daughter knows seven or eight OWS people here in the Cleveland area, and they ALL quit jobs to attend! Kinda hypocritical when part of what you are protesting is lack of JOBS!!!

      • Patty

        Dear Flashy and Frank – Neither one of you get it. It isn’t dem(wit) or Rep(ulsive). It is the system. If you think that either side of the same old, same old has your best interests at heart, you are both in la-la land. It is the POLICIES that both of these sides have been bought off with from big Corp. Conglomerates, which has gotten us into this hell on earth. The corporations couldn’t have accomplished what they have if the lawmakers didn’t set the policies in place to allow them. Until we throw all of those people out of congress who refuse to follow our constitution, it will continue to be the same old, same old. BOTH sides play against the middle class. It is easier for them to divide and pit us against each other to obtain their objectives and goals. Big business doesn’t just have republicans in their pockets, it is BOTH of them. Dems have GE, GM, unions, Buffet, Soros, etc. Repubs supposedly have big oil, military suppliers, etc.
        Unless we throw all of the bums out and we, as Americans, change the rules for our representatives, it will continue to be the same.
        We should start with term limits, no lobbyists, return our decisions back to the states, return to our constitution, eliminate all subsidies, gov’t. unions, re-write their benefit packages. We need to return these jobs to the level of public service instead of self serving service.

      • Mike

        I agree with you 100%. Term limits is an idea whose time has come. Most people like to blame everything on the sitting President, nd forget about the real power brokers: Congress. As long as lobbyists keep buying our Congressmen, we are screwed.

      • PATRIOT 101

        Term limits are dumb. A smarter electorate is what we need. People will pay attention and look at candidates at some point. Problem is the propoganda machine is strong! Stronger than truth? We will see in a few months.

      • Patty

        Patriot 101 – A couple of years ago I would have agreed with you on the issue of term limits. We have a built in system for term limits – vote them out. BUT, the fact is, is that we have a very unengaged, uneducated (or public educated), populace who could care less. I now think of term limits as idiot proofing the uninformed from the informed.

      • Adolf

        Patty, I agree with you, unless you clean out both Houses, you will continue to have Dem and Repub. Cockroaches. They are too busy stuffing their own pockets, meanwhile neglecting what the people want or need. Too many years in the position, theirTerms should be limited, not like Ted Kennedy, over 40 years as a Senetor. They owe lots of favors to the big Corps. and we need to throw them out, and start over, hopefully with some more honest ones, at least ones that will obey what they have sworn on.

      • http://simplynatural.blogtownhall.com/2011/04/08/wholistic_libertarianism.thtml SimplyNatural

        Political corruption is the reason behind our suicidal trade policies that have destroyed most of American consumer product manufacturing and the biggest reason for our depression. Both parties are to blame but Obama has certainly accelerated our decline. I would go with Buddy Roemer who has made opposition to both his main issue.

      • Flashy

        I agree with you patty that Big Corporate rules the roost right now. By letting money being the controlling power behind who gets elected, we got what we paid for.

        As for your comment “Repubs supposedly have big oil, military suppliers, etc.”. There isn’t “supposedly’ about it. Toss in the Koch Bros and a few other names and you get the idea.

        You complain about Soros? i’ll toss in the Koch Bros. Fine…start beating the drum for true campaign finance reform. take the $$ out of the game and real folks can stand up.

        Here’s something else to chew on. Portland Oregon…it experiemented with public financing of candidates. You declared, had 1000 signatures, and you were funded up to X amount. No matching funds etc. It was in less than a year when the next election came around. The incumbents in the city offices were faced with fresh faces everywhere and almost got taken down. Had there been a little bit of time or some organization in the challenges, they would have been taken out. (PS most of the challengers were of the Moderate political bend…the wacked TPers did not even pull double digits in the vote tallies)

        Then came the budget crisis every state and local government got hit with. The first to go? Literally, the very first cut. Yep..public campaign financing.

        Money rules today. Absolute rule. Do you honestly think the TP is not controlled by the Big Monied interests now? When it started, one item on every TP local was the Wall Street bail out and insider fat cat gloves treeatment agauinst those who brought this ecoomy to its knees. think…when was the last time a TP member of Congress railed against Wall Street? Why is Wall Street and that area now no longer a “talking point” of the Tea Party? Why is it that Occupy is so hated by the TP…when the subject matter causing the protests are the very same that began the Tea Party movement?

        Think about it …

      • CoCowboy

        By the way Patty and Flashy… You might do well to remember… The United States IS… are you ready?

        ~IS~ A CORPORATION…

        Stick that in your pipe and smoke it…

      • CoCowboy

        Flashy you asked why the OWS is so hated compared to the TP. I have an answer for you.
        OWS HAS
        1. KILLED AT LEAST 8 PEOPLE
        2. COST CITIES AT LEAST $14 MILLION
        3. NUMOROUS RAPES
        4. UNCOUNTED PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTY DESTRUCTION
        5) UNCOUNTED BUSINESSES HAVE GONE OUT OF BUSINESS
        6) HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF LOST REVENUES FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS
        7) UNCOUNTED LOST JOBS DUE TO LOST REVENUE OF SMALL BUSINESS REVENUES
        8) PUBLIC DEFICATION, URINATION, SEX OF EVERY KIND (even in front of children)
        9) MULTIPLE INJURIES TO PUBLIC SERVANTS
        10) REFUSAL TO HONOR AGREED PERMITS

        YOU WANT US TO RESPECT THAT??? SURELY YOU GEST!!! NOT ON YOUR LIFE! (literally)

        I’m no Tea Partier, but I can tell you I definitely NEVER saw this kind of behavior and they never overstayed a lawful permit. SCREW OWS!!!

      • Patty

        CoCowboy & Flashy, And here I thought America was a Republic. Flashy, I am a Tea Partier. The reason you have not heard anything from them as late is because the MSM isn’t feeding you anything of late about them, which seems to be your only “news” source. ALSO, the 99%ers and the Tea Party are not that far apart about big corporations and their influence on the gov’t. Which it is the gov’t. who has set the policies to enable the big corps to bastardize our way of life. Oh, that’s right, the 99%’ers don’t get that connection, because they want the gov’t. to take care of them. The difference between them is that TP’ers are responsible for what they do and the 99%ers don’t want to be resposible for themselves. They want someone else to supply them with everything for free.

      • eddie47d

        Cowboy you are full of the excrement that you are throwing around!

      • CoCowboy

        Patty,
        The date is February 21, 1871 and the Forty-First Congress is in session. I refer you to the “Acts of the Forty-First Congress,” Section 34, Session III, chapters 61 and 62. On this date in the history of our nation, Congress passed an Act titled: “An Act To Provide A Government for the District of Columbia.” This is also known as the “Act of 1871.” What does this mean? Well, it means that Congress, under no constitutional authority to do so, created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia, which is a ten mile square parcel of land.

        What??? How could they do that? Moreover, WHY would they do that? To explain, let’s look at the circumstances of those days. The Act of 1871 was passed at a vulnerable time in America. Our nation was essentially bankrupt — weakened and financially depleted in the aftermath of the Civil War. The Civil War itself was nothing more than a calculated “front” for some pretty fancy footwork by corporate backroom players. It was a strategic maneuver by European interests (the international bankers) who were intent upon gaining a stranglehold on the neck (and the coffers) of America.

        The Congress realized our country was in dire financial straits, so they cut a deal with the international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London were dipping their fingers into everyone’s pie) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers…..

        http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm

      • Patty

        Co Cowboy – you need to read further. It is only the Dist. of Columbia. http://www.abodia.com/2/United-States-is-a-corporation.htm

      • http://deleted Claire

        Mike— I agree with your comments.

      • Joe H.

        Patty,
        how are term limits going to idiot proof us?? You have people that will ALWAYS vote for the person with an R or a D in front of their name so all you are going to have is a bunch of idiotic newbies that don’t know their azz from a hole in the ground! don’t forget the masses that are on the government teat! they will ALWAYS vote for the person that is going to give them the most!!! Idiots will be there come hell or high water!!!

      • Patty

        What is your suggestion Joe? At least I have one. Cleaning them out and starting fresh might give in to some new ideas and ways of how they do business instead of business as usual or lack thereof. Term limits would be just a start. Take away all of their perks. You want the job, you move to DC. None of this flying back and forth every weekend. They can join a 401k like the rest of us that they manipulated the masses into. You have healthcare for only the time you are serving and you pay for a portion of it for yourself and 100% for your family, just like the rest of us. You wouldn’t be allow to make it a career. Serve your term and then you are out. No consulting, no lobbying, etc., etc. The same rules and laws that you pass on the masses include you, not exempt you. What Ideas do YOU have to try to stop the insanity?

      • Joe H.

        Patty,
        Yes, clean them out, 100% agree. But term limits like you are suggesting can work AGAINST you as well. Do you realize that under your plan, Ron Paul would not even be here right now?? The problem with term limits is that when you finally DO get a good constitutionalrep in that is going to try to balance the budget, get us out of all these incessant wars, make the politicians accountable to the people he is GONE. What we need to do is EDUCATE the voters by letters, Email, phone, word of mouth, and any other way we can. An educated voter is the greatest tool we can use against all of these crooks!!! This, of course will take work from all, not just the other guy, but ALL. If you truly believe it worth something, it is worth the work!!

      • Patty

        Joe H – Obviously, you and I try to read and understand what is going on, that would put us into a different 1% catagory. :) Have you ever noticed that when you talk to most people, they have no clue, nor do they want to have a clue. It is sad, but true.

      • sonny

        When will you buffoons quit talking down “party.” Right now BOTH parties stink to high heaven. Bush may have done his share of damage
        BUT bozo has been there for almost 4 years and hasn’t done ANYTHING to actually help the country. BTW, there is a REASON for that. He does not WANT to help the country. He wants to DESTROY it and he’s doing a pretty good job. Everyone (stupidly) talks down the reps OR
        the dems. The problems were NOT caused by reps OR dems. They were caused by BOTH parties so all of you “party” people, CUT THE CRAP.
        It’s BOTH of them.

      • Patty

        Ditto. Vote out all of the self serving ones which is about 98%.

      • Hawkerbuff

        I believe Flashy is correct in his analysis of what will happen during the lead up and results of this coming years election. Obama will run, a NeoCon will be nominated on the Republican ticket and Obama will most likely be re-elected. I don’t know if it will be a landslide as I disagree with his statement…”voters prefer Obama’s policies and plans over the GOP.” Most American’s really don’t know much in the way of reality. Mainstream media propaganda has been working like a well oiled machine for the last 50 years and has the average American so confused and mentally bankrupt that even if “voter fraud” was not at work, all it would take would be another “crisis” of some sort to scare Americans into re-electing Obama. Until enough of the American population stops listening to the propaganda spewed by the likes of CNN, ABC, CBS and yes FOX…this country will continue down the road to tyranny. We need to study history and understand that America is following the EXACT same path to slavery as every other great civilization that has existed before her. We as a people are making the exact same mistakes and falling for the exact same tricks that every tyrant has used to enslave their people. Just one example to make my point in this line of thinking is explaining something as simple as “divide and conquer.” The Democrat party elite and the Republican party elite are two sides of the same coin. The globalist set us peons up to think we have choice. So we can pick party “A” or party “B”. The elite MSM propaganda machine portrays party “A” as liberal, for the little guy, big government to take care of the less fortunate, etc. Then on the other side that same propaganda machine portrays party “B” as conservative, pro free market, save the rich, less government, less taxes, etc. However, as long as one or the other controls the Belt Way, the policies coming out of Washington will continue to lead us to bigger central government, higher taxes, less freedom and a basic PRO GLOBAL GOVERNMENT agenda! It’s like drinking “Coke” or “Pepsi.” We have this illusion of choice but in the end you still get the same result…all the caffeine with twice the sugar and no nutritional value at all! My question is this, what has to happen…what does our government have to do to us…how many years and administrations will we endure before the American people finally realize what Kennedy, Eisenhower, Wilson, Lindbergh Sr., MacDonald, McCarthy, Jackson, Lincoln, Paul and countless others have tried to warn us about for the last 150 plus years! There is a powerful (non elected) group of foreign and domestic interests who are controlling our government from the inside. Forget vilification of the word “conspiracy.” Conspiracy’s have occurred all through history! History is one big conspiracy. Use your brains for goodness sake. Just because Rush Limbaugh makes fun of conspiracy’s (except when it’s a conspiracy to bring him down) doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Study history, read what our elected employees have said in speeches, to the MSM and on the house and senate floor. Listen to Eisenhower’s farewell address. Read Woodrow Wilson’s quote on how he sold his country out and was a broken man because of it! Learn the truth about the FED and understand how money is created in today’s major economies. These are all clues that point directly to the beast behind the curtain. Ron Paul is just the beginning of the solution to America’s ills, but unless and until Americans act as individual thinkers, begin READING historical documents and turn off the TV…we are doomed. Oh, and for those of you who believe in God and His providence in the affairs of men…you had better pray like you have never prayed before in your life…because if God is not moved to intervene in what’s coming, we are going to experience slavery and genocide that will make the slaughter and bloodshed that any of the 20th century dictators caused look like child’s play by comparison.

      • PATRIOT 101

        Excellent post! Re-post this everywhere you can! If people would take the time to read instead of “spout off”, we wouldn’t be in this shape in this country!

      • Average Joe

        Who’s better at running Congress?
        Since it’s Congress that sets the spending Budgets, sets the Deficits, and passes legislation affecting jobs and the economy (The President cannot spend one penny that has not been authorized by Congress), let’s look at the record of Congresses over the last 30 years (Through 2010);

        JOBS (39,761,000 Net New Jobs)

        Jobs created when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = 8,100,000 net new jobs.

        Jobs created when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = 21,773,000 net new jobs.

        Jobs created when Congress was split (8 years) = 9,888,000 net new jobs.

        DEFICITS (a) ($7.304 Trillion)

        Total Deficits when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $5.022 Trillion.

        Total Deficits when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $1.219 Trillion.

        Total Deficits when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.063 Trillion.
        NATIONAL DEBT ($12.878 Trillion = 93.4% of all the Debt in our History)

        Total New Debt when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $7.859 Trillion.

        Total New Debt when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $3.238 Trillion.

        Total New Debt when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.781 Trillion.
        ECONOMIC GROWTH ($11.873 Trillion of GDP growth)

        Total Growth (GDP) when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $3.887 Trillion.

        Total Growth (GDP) when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $5.623 Trillion.

        Total Growth (GDP) when Congress was split (8 years) = $2.363 Trillion.

        Draw your own conclusions, but these are undisputed facts from government sources.

        (a) Deficits do not equal the increase in the Debt because of the government’s ‘funny accounting’.

        Sources -
        Democrats controlled Congress from 1987 – 1994, and from 2007 – 2010.
        Republicans controlled Congress from 1995 – 2000, and from 2003 – 2006.
        There was a split Congress from 1980 – 1986 and for 2001 & 2002.

        Links to government data sites are as follows;
        Jobs – http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf

        Deficits – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals See Table 1.1

        National Debt – http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

      • theodorej

        Hey …. Nuff Said ! speaking about brain surgeons …. you might consider consulting one…

      • wally stewart

        i bet you sasid demorats will win by a landslide to lol.fact id americans have had it with this fraud n chief lies and wastig tax payers money

      • white tiger

        Your dealer is juicing your dime bags, dude! Bear in mind that Hillary is but a white, female oscambo.
        If we are to survive as a constitutional republic,(we probably cannot), we mustelect leaders who will support and defend; not pervert, the Constitution. All Dems and most GOPhers support subversion of constitutional principles. They want to take from the Middleclass, the Worker Bees, and buy the votes of upper and lowerclass persons.Lets wake up to the Tenth Amendment and shrink the size of Government to a bare minimum!

      • boone

        IF the people of this country don’t flush all of congress out of office come Niv.2012 and vote in new leaders than you can kiss AMERICA good bye and you can bet your ass there will be a civil war in this country.

      • Joe H.

        right before you do it, you better contact all your elected officials and tell them that this is what will happen to ALL who don’t represent WE THE PEOPLE!!! Be sure to tell the new crop that comes in as well!!!

      • CoCowboy

        Oh sure Flashy – Of course O’Nutjob will run… His ego is bigger than that of Trump! That’s saying a lot… But he isn’t going to win. The R’s are NOT going to nominate O’Robme… Simple truth is, we don’t trust him anymore than we do the di(khead we’ve got in office now… I see Gingrich getting the nomination. HUNTSMAN, is the a$$hole that is responsible for the Asian trade issue we face today. Do you seriously think ANYONE is going to give him a second thought? Hunstsman is done and so is O’Robme – both Morman cult nuts! Santorum and Bachmann are not electable – ever… Nobody knows Johnson, he’s out… Paul is too extreme to gain support.

        And the nation won’t survive another Obama term… that only means one thing… which I assume even you are smart enough to sort out… Is that really what we want for America? It’s gonna get real FUGLY if it does… and it ain’t purty now… think it over real carefully…

        As for Hillary – FORGET Hillary… how many unmarked graves again??? NEVER!!!!! She is OBAMA ON STEROIDS (or is that hemoroids?)

      • Flashy

        Newt might pull it off..though i doubt his three mariages, his informing his ex wife while she was in teh hospital with cancer he was running off with his secretary, his diddling his paramour and in his divorce proceedings stated it he never had sex with her because “oral sex is not sex”. (true…you can look it u. It wasn’t Clinton who first used the excuse). Not to mention his bill from Freddie mac, his frequent statements about what he is now for versus what he voted for and pushed when in Congress…I’d say Newt is the latest 7 day wonder challenging Mitt.

        That leaves Ron paul and Huntsman. Paul is old…more importantly, he looks old. He’s also enunicated a few radical concepts. Put together the image and the rdical ideas…Paul is toast.

        nope…the only hope y’all of knocking off Mitt is that huntsman survives New hampshire. And if Romney gets the nomination…do you guys really think he stands a chance against President Obama? Seriously?

      • http://www.kelandlokgames.com lokiare

        I’m sorry, but saying Ron Paul is too extreme is ignorant. He only wants to return to the constitution, pull out of these illegal wars we are in, abolish the illegal TSA, and balance the budge things that pretty much everyone in the US wants to happen. The difference is unlike all of the other candidates (Obama included) he has a clean voting record for 12 terms. He is the best last choice to try to get our country back on track before we become a tyranny…

      • Joe H.

        Flashy,
        Name one pol with a better voting record than that of RON PAUL!!! He has voted right straight down the constitution on every vote he has made!! He has never lied about how he was going to vote EITHER!! Don’t bother dude YOU CAN’T!!!

      • Flashy

        Ron Paul is not radical and extreme in his views? Ron Paul wants to rip the current system up, tear it down, and replace it with a blend of capitalism and anarchism.

        What’s “not radical” about that?

      • Joe H.

        Flashy,
        What is radical about following the constitution?? Where do you get it that Ron Paul is trying to change the system?? His voting record says totally the opposite!!! Try reading some of the sites that B. Livingston posts instead of blindly following people like gingrich and cain!!!

      • Exwave

        Do you honestly believe Obama is “Presidential Material” more than any of the Republican’s running? Can you be that dumb? You must be a Democrap. When the Republicans are in office, you blame them for the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. That is all I hear when we have a Republican President. Now we have a Democraped President and the POOR are POORER than I have seen in my lifetime. When are you people ever going to face the facts, take a good look around you. Get that crap out of the White House.

      • firefight

        Flashy,Tazio13
        Who’s fooling who here? You say,”of the GOP candidates, not one of them is Presidential material.” And your boy Obama is???? What are you thinking. You are indeed cocky and perhaps a bit too much like Obama in the narcissist department. Both of you guys are dillusional if you think this nation will allow Obama to get another shot at the helm. Hell, even the Democrats are beginning to ask him to step down. He is toast, history, a fading bad memory of what can happen when we allow Muslims to get into our White House VIA dumbed down entitlists. If you think Huntsman is the answer, you might have something there, but he is way too far behind in the polls and the liberal left will not let up on someone like Bachman. They are doing her just like they did Palin. But, watch how they will behave if Hillary gets on the ticket. The liberal left will treat her like a princess. That’s how far left, as in Socialist left, things have gon in this country and you can throw rock as the Republicans as well as the Democrats. Both are equally responsible for our plight. There are several things in Newt’s closet that need to be rectified, but he is the quickest thinker, most educated and best prepared potential candidate that could possibly come forward from either party. Personally, I am sick and tired of the left’s continuous attacks and attempts to disassemble our Bill of Rights and our Constitution. I am sick and tired of a man who can’t speak without a teleprompter and one who thinks our country has 57 states and still can not come up with a birth certificate that is not photoshopped.

      • http://yahoo Edward

        To Pain your one of the people that is a problum with this Country why Don’t you leave God bless America.

      • http://yahoo JAN

        Wake up an learn something to day
        HERE IS TH TRUTH ABOUT YOU POTUS

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player embedded.

        WAKE UP TO THE LIES.. THIS IS THE ONLY TRUTH OBAMA HAS EVER SAID.

      • Osteomed

        Well Flashy, 1st of all, I know who Obama is, he is the usurper now occupying the WH, and Romney hasn’t gotten above %25 in any of the polls he’s been in, since 2007!! Don’t think he’ll be the R’s nominee! But Obama isn’t w/drawing from anything… Lest we forget how large the Politician’s ego grows, once elected to high-office. Just wish our Supreme Court will move @ “God’s speed” and Court Marshall this obvious usurper and hoax of a President!!

      • amwa

        Barack Obama 2012, landslide Victory Osteomed

      • http://yahoo JAN

        AMEN Next time post this about this potus

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player embedded

        THEN MAYBE IS WE ALL POST THIS AMERICA WILL WAKE UP.

      • Joe H.

        Amwa,
        Are you delirious??? THAT would be the downfall of our country!! But then, maybe that’s what YOU WANT????

      • amwa

        I agree with you 100%. Good to see someone with a brain on this page.

      • May

        Obama is an embarrassment to this country and the people who still like him are even worse. There are no words to express the stupidity that continues to feed the situation that is occurring in our country. I can say no more because I am so alarmed at those who do not get it. There is not enough room or time to list all the stupid things Obama has done and some still think he is presidential???? How did this country breed so many stupid people? They will be our demise! Beam me up Scotty and get me out of here!

      • Flashy

        Go ahead..name some of these “stupid” things Pres. Obama has done. My guess is you’ll bring up policy, which simplym means someone differs from what you belive to be correct policy…not that it is “stupid”.

        But c’mon…luist a few ‘stupid’ things.

        I disagree with some of the policies he and the Dems put through. But that doesn’t mean he’s did “stupid things”.

        I wish he had been more forceful with the Public Option..but with the way the current health care costs are heading pre-implementation, it will be here by 2016, decades later than it should have been. I disagree with not going after wall Street with more zeal. Reversing the Gramm-Leach fiasco would have been a huge step we should have taken. I would have liked to see him holding firm on letting the Bush tax cuts expire as they were promised when enacted. He should have pushed harder for an end to Big Ag crop subsidies. Those are a few items i believe he should have gone for..but that doesn’t mean it was a ‘stupid thing’.

        But go ahead..what were these ‘stupid things”

      • Joe H.

        Flashy,
        Name some? Well right off the top of my head, hows Libya and Africa sound??? He only sent “advisors to Africa?? You DO realize that is exactly how VietNam started, don’t you?? Let’s face it, dude, he went to bombing Libya on presidential decree without even consulting congress, let alone getting their approval!! No, he’s not stupid, he’s psychotic!!!

      • APN

        Flashy……. It would save all of us a lot of time to just name what AMABO has done right! NOTHING! and the national debt and current unemployment rate proves that fact, not to mention this DUMB and unconstitutional AMABOCARE. By the way, AMABO is OBAMA backwards in case you can’t figure it out.

        AMABO: In Slang, “Ahm a BO. ….maaaan” I’m sure we can trace his ancestry back a few generations and find the true meaning of AMABO.

        Suggested meaning: The BACKWARD or REGRESSIVE one, a self-anointed King who thinks he is smart but is dumber than a box of rocks. Tends to do things in a backward regressive motion never understanding why he’s getting further away from his intended destination.

        By the way, you are really “Flashman aka flashpan” right? Changed your name in an attempt to clean up previous comments, correct? I mean you made all these GREAT PROGESSIVE claims before the 2010 elections didn’t you? How did that work out for you?

        2012 = WAXING time for the GOD hating American hating marxist dems…..period. and Newt will be our next President….period.

      • big wyo

        by far the most hated human to occupy the white win by landslide -not even if only dems allowed to vote – thats rich forget about 2010 it was all a bad dream.

      • Carl Williams

        Doc says:
        November 25,2011 at 5:49

        Still some folks around who love punishment in the worst way.This is the only president who is Legislative branch, Executive branch, Judicial branch all rolled into one. If uou want to go to hell in a basket, you have the qualifications.

      • boone

        you are right the repos have done nothery the house will go back to the liberals and the U.S. will go more in dept untill are rating goes from a AA to an A- rating.

      • Patty

        The house has done plenty. There is a minimum of 15 bills that the house has passed and that the Reid controlled Senate has refused to address. Get your facts straight before you make yourself look like a complete ignorant sheeple.

      • Joe H.

        Boone,
        Under Abummer, it will go from AA to FF-!!!!

      • Robert Wayne

        Obama will get the same racist blacks and Mexicans who want to see this country completely destroyed by Mexico to vote for him. Whether he gets back in or not depends on whether the white imbeciles who keep on falling for this white guilt b.s. fall for the trick again. If they do, this country is done for. If finally they’re able to start seeing the light, maybe this country has a chance.

      • Rainier

        Flashy,

        What make you think that the GOP contenders are not presidential material? Think about Obama. Is he presidential material? Runaway and hide with his teleprompter and a community organizer is all he is.

      • C. Stanley

        Flashy is smoking too jmuch of the strage stuff. Obama will lose in a landslide. He has no platform to run on and will blame the vRepublicans. He is a total waste as a president!

      • Joe H.

        C. Stanley,
        more like a waste of SPACE!!! Waste of a suit!! Waste of a teleprompter! Waste of afterbirth!!

      • ARNOLD CARL TAPP

        FLAPSY , YOU NEED A BRAIN SURGEON. ” WE THE PEOPLE ” WILL NOT ALLOW obummer TO BE ON THE BALLOT , SINCE HE IS AN ILLEGAL OCCUPANT OF OUE OVAL OFFICE AND WHITEHOUSE. THE TRUTH IS THAT HIS RATINGS ARE BELOW 40 %
        AND HE COULD BE INDICTED FOR TREASON , FRAUD AND MORE THAN 50 OTHER CRIMINAL OFFENSES , INCLUDING BAD GOVERNANCE .

      • Mary

        Flashy I’m afraid you are right. There is no candidate for the republican party.

      • Joe H.

        Mary,
        Either you are blind or you haven’t looked at Ron Paul!!! He’s the best thing to come down the pike in a long time!!!

      • Rick Moyte

        Politics very rarely deals with common sense. Hiliary will not run for President and it will be Obama and Romney. We will see what happens.

      • Ralph R.

        If she runs she better not bring in obummers excess luggage…meaning no
        sharia law in America,we are Americans not camel jockeys,she has introduced a law at the UN to ban our weapons,so we can ban her from the
        race for American President,patriots don’t need her,remember use paper
        ballots this time don’t let them cheat us out of the Presidency,by putting in fake voters.When in the stores look to see the new faces spending your money,obummers vote getters,mexicans you name it,you lose
        twice, your money your vote. Vote American,vote for Mr.Ron Paul!!!

      • jetstream

        Tea Party joining with the Occupy movement… assist the Democrats in obtaining a super-majority…. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Find a site where they’ll listen to this drivel… it’s falling on intelligent ears here.

      • APN

        Flashy say what? LMAO!

        Your comments appear to reflect the same progressive prediction in 2010! How did that work out for you? The fact is, 2010 was just the beginning of a cleansing process that will continue well beyond the 2012 elections. It’s called the Tea Party!

        Now, I hope you dummy progessive maxists do force Obama out and then pit the big Queenie against Newt. Yep, Newt will be our choice and he will WAX either of your two self-anointed progressive gods. I cannot wait to see an elderly statesman debate this kid you put in the WH.

        The COLD hard fact of the matter is, WE THE PEOPLE will speak very loudly come November 2012 and it will not be to just simply replace a progressive-marxist democrate with a RINO. We are REAL busy identifying those who do not represent the conservative movement and those who do not conform to the movement, will be defeated. Your prediction is laughable and reflects a progressive emoitional mindset incapable of logical reason. Keep up the good work, you lost in 2010 and you will lose even bigger in 2012.

        I would suggest to you that not only will AMABO be defeated 60/40 but both houses of congress will be controlled by the GOP. If you want to put in your substitute Billary, then it will probably be 55/45 but you still lose.

      • Thomas Rand

        Whether the readers like it or not, I think your scenario is correct. Hillary Clinton has stated emphatically this year that she wouldn’t run for President. Wall Street has just publicized their support for Romney, who will be the Republican candidate, and with the anti-Wall Street occupiers throughout the U.S., the middle class ticked off at the wealthy Wall Streeters, Obama’s populist support and job plan, and Congress’s very low poll rating (compared to Obama’s) due to their refusal to listen to what leading economists (and even S&P)say is necessary about taxing the wealthy, Obama will be re-elected and Congress will go Democrat. Without Republicans blocking Obama’s efforts to get America working again, he will actually be able to do his “Yes, I can” stuff. Ultimately, despite all this emphasis on the “Hussein” of Obama’s middle name to make him sound Middle Eastern, once the campaign starts, his policies will be viewed even by the Christian Right as the most Christian (often confused with “socialist”) and humane of the candidates. Americans will be taking care of each other again. People may not like the expense of taking care of their fellow citizens, but this is what Jesus would have wanted.

      • APN

        Well Thomas, how well do you know Jesus? You seem to be confused about what Jesus said about helping the poor. The fact is, what you just stated has nothing to do with Christianity however it has everthing to do with marxism. You nor any Government has the right to dictate to me what I should or should not give to the poor. Again, what you have stated is marxist and has nothing to do with being a Christian. Your ideology is based upon “Social Justice” and “Collective Salvation” not a person’s individual right to choose. My rights come from GOD THE FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN not from a progressive idiot like BO or HC who think they know better than I about what I should do with my life and the fruits of my labor. GOD gives me, as an individual, a choice, not a human mandate based upon some foolish wordly ideology like progressive-marxism.

        Bottom line, Jesus gives us individual rights to choose him or reject him and it has nothong to do with collectivism. In other words, my choice of accepting Jesus in my heart or rejected him out of my heart has ZERO to do with your decision or your personal salvation. i.e.;

        I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. John 14:6

        Again, marxism is nothing more than one of many foolish wordly ideologies that has nothong to do with Jesus Christ. However it has every thing to do with wordly cults that will get you nothing in the end.

        I have a suggestion for all you hollier than thou Progressives; mind your own business and manage your own affairs. Take care of your own business and run your families the best way you see fit and if you are RICH then please feel free to give whatever your little heart desires. But again, please get your nose out of my business because I am perfectly capable of deciding what I should give to whomever I CHOOSE. My Money….my individual CHOICE.
        ….. and that is the difference….period…

      • sidewinder

        Well Flashy, I happen to think you are right.

        I want Ron Paul in, and Congress out.

        But I suspect it will play out like you said.

        Frank J…..
        I suspect you are still a believer in the fair election process.

        Frank, they rig the elections by only allowing candidates they like on both the Republican and Democrat side. That way its win win, no matter which party’s candidate wins the election.

        So yes, voting matters, you are given the chance to vote for any number of candidates whom they chose to run.

        But if you think elections will solve any major problems you are deluded and only wasting time, as they gain ground and you lose ground.
        If you still believe in elections Frank, you are failing, and you are failing your country.

        Every so often a candidate slips through that is “Unapproved.”
        They ignore him/her, and do their best to marginalize them.
        We are seeing that now.

        And when all else fails, they shoot him.

        Gettin’ it yet?

        Or are you still stuck at GO, hung up on Conservative/Liberal philosophy?

      • sidewinder

        Are we in church, or is this a political site?

        “APN says:
        November 28, 2011 at 3:04 pm

        Well Thomas, how well do you know Jesus? You seem to be confused about what Jesus said about helping the poor. The fact is, what you just stated has nothing to do with Christianity however it has everthing to do with marxism.”

        Here it is folks, the mixture of church and state…in the mind.
        The whorehouse of government is no place for Jesus…
        Leave him out of it.

      • APN

        Exactly my point, these self-anointed progressive gods of the planet are attempting to co-op Christianity into their perverted marxist worldly ideology. i.e.; Social Justice, collective salvation, etc etc etc…. Lost sheep awaiting their slaughter by their chief puppet master.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Liberty

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi
        Molon Labe

      • http://N/A Observer from Phoenix

        I think it is a sheer waste of time to enact FreedomFighter’s plan. I don’t mean to be disrespectful. They are all a group of rotten politicians, the worst kind to try to redeem. You might as well start a new political movement with a new political party. You may want to recruit anyone who is sincerely and truly committed to saving this Country regardless of their present political affiliation. This new force will infuse confidence in true Americans and win their support.
        This is time to start a new leaf for our Country.

      • ynot-rivera

        here is the problem republican talking points of less government and less taxes are broadly popular in theory but its becoming more and more obvious that those talking points don’t apply to 99% there only being honored or implemented if you will by Republicans to a selected few.And im sick of Conservitives walking away from there responsabilities to govern. Its not Obamas policies that failed this country Obama didn’t take office with a three hundred billion dollar surplus and turn it into a twelve trillion dollar deficit in as little as eight years. Mind you we are still living under those failed policy’s,tax cuts for the rich and the Iraque war.The gop is just bitter because Obama’s success reflects upon there failures like focusing on fighting the right war to kill Ben laden. What they couldn’t do in seven years he did in two

    • Old Henry

      I still think that Little Barry will, in order to keep his gig, will offer to dump Joey the idiot and “allow” Hillie-Billie to take Biteme’s place.

      If that happens and they pull it off I shudder to think of the horendously escalating SS costs to keep Little Barry upright and outta the box. Maybe Hille-Billie would simply take his place via V.P. EO 000001 and then give him a yob in the WH servant staff where the dems obviously think he sould be anyway.

    • wandamurline

      If anyone here watches Glenn Beck….he predicted that when things got sooooooo bad that Hiliary would be the person to “save” our country…when nothing is farther from the truth. She is as bad as Obama, she is just more slitherly than he is in hiding stuff. We need to clean out Washington’s sewers that are backed up in Congress and the White House….remove the Demorats and RINOS and vote in constitutional representation…for had it not been for the tea party candidates elected in 2010, the debt ceiling would have been raised without so much as a cough from the congress. It is time to roto rooter Washington and get the drains cleaned up. Enough is enough.

      • Mushin

        WANDAMURLINE – CORRECTION MY DEAR, HILLARY CLINTON IS MUCH WORSE THAN OBAMA – AND IF BY SOME TWIST OF FATE SHE ENTERS THE “WHITE HOUSE” WE WILL SEE OUR SITUATION WORSEN TENFOLD.

        I’M VOTING FOR DR. PAUL – HE’S THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES SENSE.

      • Robert Wayne

        Oh, I wouldn’t say she’s worse than Obama. They’re about the same. It’s like comparing Hitler, Stalin and Mao.

      • ARNOLD CARL TAPP

        MAYBE THAT IS WHY SHE IS KNOWN AS ” HITLERY ” CLINTON .
        SHE AND THE U.N. ARE TRUING TO TAKE AWAY OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND ALL OTHERS WITH THE U.N. AGENDA 21 .

      • Joe H.

        Robert,
        Only if you fail to convince your reps in congress to vote against the treaty!!! If Abummer passes it on decree, I strongly suspect there will be a cry for his impeachment!!! There are too many pols that are still gun owners!!!

      • http://N/A Observer from Phoenix

        Dear Robert, I wouldn’t compare her to Hitler, Stalin or Mao. In the long history of China, there were two empresses. Well, only one, the other was the mother/stepmother of a totally inept boy emperor. They both showed the similar kind of cunning in manipulating politics but entirely ignorant about the true governing. They both ruined the empire. but the latter dragged the entire country into mud and shame.
        I guarantee this Hillary will be very good at, just by making offensive and arrogant speeches around the world.

      • Kane Bittner

        @Patty. You got it. Term limits. Get rid of the lobbyists! Do the math. There are approx 15 registered lobbyists for every member of congress!
        They all gotta go. Period. That’s 535+1
        And at this point I don’t care how it happens.
        Think about that.

      • http://N/A Observer from Phoenix

        Kane, there are two things you may want to rethink: 1) Are you willing to see a really good, honest, hardworking, clear thinking and extremely sharp and straight member of Congress forced out by term limits? We all know they are few and rare but they are so important simply because they are part of the legislative branch that can play check on the other two branches. 2) Can you really quieten or silence voices? America defends freedom of speech. The all important thing to do is to place stalwart patriotic “people” in Congress. They wouldn’t buckle to any temptation!

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Liberty

        Were “the rule of law” truly enforced, very few of the names mentioned in these political discussions wouldn’t be out of prison. Hillary is a good example, as is the Left’s chosen one.

      • http://yahoo Edward

        Your right Wandamurline any one that would de fect to Bobama is a tratot to America God bless America.

    • ccfonten

      Man oh man………….you are right. Great post.
      No matter what or who………maybe like the yellow cur…..we need to vote odumbo and his thugs OUT!

    • Dan

      Just what we need Billary AGAIN. Better lock up all the female interns and federal employees the BIll will strike again. Clinton lost me when she made the moronic statement that ” It takes a village to raise a child” If you are that naive you have no business in politics. As for the Republicans joining the 21st century you sure have that one backwards , the democrats and their spend it like it’s free attitude are the ones that need to join the modern world…Oops they can’t do that it would ruin Pelosis insider trading scams

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Liberty

        Correction: Were the Demorats to join the 21st Century, it would take away all of the Congress’ insider trading…………..currently allowed under the so-called “rule of law”. Most all of them are guilty.

      • eddie47d

        Then what are you going to do about the Republican Inside Traders? You are so lost in being biased.

      • Patty

        Same thing they should do to Pelosi. You just don’t get it Eddie-47. You have fallen into the kool-aid pit of first divide and then conquer. Do you think people who vote other than democrat want to NOT prosecute all of them who take a gov’t. job to better just themselves. Your nuts. We want all of them gone. Why don’t you try joining that unified campaign instead of your same old left wing talking points and cover for “your side”. Next thing you will be saying is “they did it first”. NOT AN EXCUSE. ALL OF THE CRIMINALS HAVE TO GO!

      • eddie47d

        Why do you insist on bringing up Democrats Patty. You’re just like Dan and are afraid to look in the mirror at what the Republicans are doing. That is very telling about you also and which side you are stroking for. You must also have some snippy relatives or maybe they left early to get away from you. LOL

      • Patty

        Eddie 47 – Did you not cook your turkey enough and have samonila poisoning? I said they should all be prosecuted. I don’t distinguish between Dem or Rep. Prosecute them all if they have broken laws or used their position to advance themselves financially. You are the one who thinks in “them” against “us”. I am pretty much against all of them, both sides. They have pretty much all proved themselves to be self erving SOB’s.

      • Patty

        Eddie47 – PS – My house is the one everyone uses as their excuse to escape from the 2-4 hour obligatory relative visit. :)

      • Joe H.

        Patty,
        Eddie presoaks his bird in prog koolaid!!! He then bastes it in dem dribbles!!!

      • http://N/A Observer from Phoenix

        Dear eddie 47d, just one simple question: Do you really want to see our Country keeps going down like this? We all know what Democrat-controlled Congress and White House had done. We have also seen the sweet and lofty promises made in Contract with America ended up like a flop. Why can’t you see interchanging between these two parties will only drag our Country ever deeper into mud? Aren’t you patriotic enough to help stop this terrible slide? Sorry! I shouldn’t challenge you on your patriotism!

      • Pearljam

        eddie47d COMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMie.

      • Ralph R.

        Remember those two boy’s that were killed during the klintons era in
        Arkansas,is that the kind of people running our country,they did a
        autopsy and found knife wounds on their bodies,not train tracks,yes we need to banish alot of those lobbyists from the halls of the WhiteHouse,
        not for sale (America)remember they are planning something big to get rid of millions of us,is that why they are letting in these foreigners
        to get rid of alot of us including them,like sitting ducks in a bowl?
        Vote American…Vote for Mr. Ron Paul…for Americans!!!

    • ralph herman

      The career politicos should go, in all parties and that cruel joke the tea party ahould crawl back under their rock.Send Reid to Mexico,
      Nancy there too,send Newt and Herman to prison.Look at mit very carfully and the killer Rick.Remember a balanced budget and a surplus.Remember bush and how most of us lost most of what we worked for all our lives,and the surplus poof,gone.Hillery was my chose but was stabbed in the back by Edwards and Ted Kennedy.What happened to public service?It was replaced by public GREED.

      • white tiger

        Ralphie, Bless your little heart! You forgot your meds again! Now, the rest of us are having apple pie for desert and can you guess who won’t be having any? Remember, no meds; no pie!

    • Dee

      In a weird way, I actually agree with you. Who are these no names asking the President to resign? Do we really need another Clinton, another self-serving money-grabber in the highest position again. This woman is trying so hard to exert additional violence on the earth, I’m ashamed she classifies herself as a Democrat. Republicans, you all should try to get this one in your party. She has been blessed with quite a few more brains than your current selections vying for the WH.

      • Patty

        No thanks. You let her rise on the democrat side, you take your own trash out!

    • Phil

      I don’t know if Obama’s ego will let him step down or not. I thought that Obama by his own words might not run again. Remember “I would rather be a one term president and accomplish something than a two term president and accomplish nothing”. If Hillary runs she wins and wins back congress. The polsters are right she can preserve what Obama has done in a way he never could. She will run as a moderate who can work with Republicians like her husband did. She has the very same far left ideas as Obama but the American people will buy the lie.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If we are told that O is not his own man but has puppetmasters who dictate his every move, then the puppetmasters have enough on O that he would not refuse their suggestion of stepping down.

      • eddie47d

        All politicians have puppet masters Nadzieja.

      • Pearljam

        You are a lying pinko bitch eddie47d.

    • Think about it

      Wow, just think Hillary as President, and Obama as head of the UN.
      Think about that for awhile, makes your skin crawl doesn’t it, How about this one Mitt Romney as President, Hillary as President of the World Bank, And Obama Head of the UN, GETTING CHILLS YET.

      • Joe H.

        Yeah, think about it….for a very SHORT period while you REJECT the thought!!

    • Christine

      She would perserve his accomplishments? What would they be?LOL That old hag, would not get eleceted she and Bill have almost as many skeltons in their closet, as The Big O.

    • madog2

      Tell me truthfully, Who on earth could convence this pompus ego freak to step down. The only ways to get rid of this muslim imposter is by death or votes. What makes anyone think we would be much better off with hillery? I’ll admit anything would be a step up from what we have now but this woman is of about the same cut as ocommie. She has an ego the size if her butt, She don’t listen to anyones advice, she is for socialized medison, she’s for big government, she would have just as many left wing freaks for tzars and cabinet she would try to stop conservitive radio etc. Her and ocommie both have to go.

      • Patty

        What Soros giveth, Soros can taketh away.

    • Homer

      All you dope smokers and free loaders love to have Hussein re-elected so you can have another free ride. How do you explain all the lies he told in his previous election? Transparency all bills posted on the net for 5 days before voting and all those lies? He is flying around the country saying the republicans killed his jobs bill. Lie congress passed it and a republican called for a vote on the Senate floor and Reid refused because he did not have the votes to pass it. Yet, all you blood suckers believe his lies. Part of his “jobs bill ” says you can sue a company if they do not hire by saying they refuse to hire you because you were unemployed. Hussein bows to a Muslim king and will not even nods his ugly head to British royalty. The real sad news is that we people who believe in the American way have no where else to go and all the thugs and stupids will be in charge. Let Holder send guns into New York and kill republicans and then lie and say he knew nothing about it. He is a fine example of what you get with Hussein!!!

    • Morris Tyler

      I feel so good when I read the comments of you ‘right wing bigots’, knowing you are so miserable because OBAMA, a black man is president. And knowing you will be so upset, so miserable and so angry when he wins again and speeds you to your ‘heart attack’. Oh happy day.

    • ron

      The president of the United States had better have a big ego. And that he does have. good for him.

    • John Lutton

      Cleaning out the White House is an absolute necessity but must be with the right person, and Im afraid the people the Repub’s are trying to push in there have already proven themselves as business-as-usual politicians such as Mit. Flush the Congress is or should be one of our very highest priorities; both sides of the isle. I’m a Tea Pary person first now and Im sick of the wimpy Republicans that have no back bone, no guts, and no voice of authority.

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