Godless Harry Reid refuses to bring Cantor or Boehner’s House Bills up for a vote in the Senate, because his Fallen Angel told him not to, because he will lose his favored seat in Hell.

JUKEBX,
Save your fingers, friend. I’ve seen too many try to tell them that and not one of these progs here have tried to touch it, let alone answer it!!

True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Yes, what a crock of Mark.

What a moron strung out on lib crack. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

mark are you as stupid as you are dense? The government acknowledging the existance of God is in no way, form, or fashion an attempt to turn the US into a theocracy. When the government passes a law favoring a specific religion at the expense of all other religions then you have the beginings of a theocracy. I know of no religion as commonaly defined that does not recognize a supreme being (God).

Well many members of the Christian Right want to make Christianity the official religion of the United States. I am a Christian, a Catholic actually, and I want my governmnet to stay out of all religious issues, to remain religiously neutral, while granting me and my neighbors the the freedom to practice all of our various religions as we see fit. I also think that given its history, our country trusts more in gold than in God so the phrase seems hypocritical to me.

You need to be criticizing OBAMA for nearly swallowing his tongue, he was stuttering so bad, when he said “GOD IS FOR HIS JOB PLAN”. That is speaking with a forked Kenyan tongue.

You’ve got a problem with your historical analysis here. In God We Trust was never used in the United States from 1776 until 1956 when Eisenhower and the Congress caught up in the fear and paranoia of the Cold War against “godless” Communism passed this ridiculous motto. So if God was so central to our republic why was this phrase NOT on our currency for the FIRST ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY YEARS of our nation? This was also true with the phrase “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. This phrase was not in the original pledge written in 1892 but was only added in 1954 during the height of Cold War paranoia against the atheist Soviets.

@Mark, I didn’t feel it was necessary and had a suspicion you’d interject..a history lesson. I understand your reasoning in regard to “In God We Trust” I just find your reasoning to not be benificial at this time for Our nation founded as “One Nation Under God” a quote from Abraham Lincoln. Here In its entirety: “we have been the the recipients of the choicest bounties of heaven” To be born in a land of freedom, to live in a nation founded as “Ine Nation Under God” by those who hold the one true God of the Bible, is both a tremendous privilege and a great responsibility. As I said in an earlier post & you chose to ignor to make a point I was already aware of..Our reality Now is that the Morality & Values of our Country have been and are being compromised, by the Progressive Lefts agenda of the 60′s the systematic dismantling of our rights and freedoms is in high gear…Obama and his Marxist cronies and their lies and double speak to

Double speak to turn our country into a Godless immoral society run by repression guised under the banner of entitlements, Social Justice, welfare and that we just don’t know, they’re all knowing… Is that why sharia is allowed by some Judges here on USA soil… My take it that you’re a Progressive Liberal & if so end of discussion..

One thing Mark got right is that Conservatives are pushing fear and paranoia to achieve their agenda just like they did back in the 50′s. I just wish that Congress and private enterprise would get the ball rolling on jobs. Knock Knock is anybody home?

Eddie, i would change the label “Conservatives” to just plain politicians, or mongrels. Today’s so-called Conservatives don’t deserve that label!

Mongrel: a dog of no definable type or breed.

LJ cap,
Very good post!!!!

Bzzzzz wrong answer! It was put onto U.S. coinage starting in 1864. Look it up! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You have got to be kidding!

Seems the cat’s is calling the kettle black Karolyn.

What is killing us, is people that have a head full of notions and feeling that was placed there years ago ~ and they haven’t clean house since.

Life magazine and a TV guide with Tiny Tim’s picture on the front as still on the coffee table.

Well, Bob, at least an image of the hammer and sickle isn’t there… yet.

bob wire,
On YOUR table is a copy of Mad magazine with a picture of Alfred E. Newman on the cover saying “What, Me worry???

jeanelane,
I collect coins and the motto is, indeed on the edge!! They were gonna take it off and such a stink was raised they left it on.

I also forgot to add that there were a few hundred that were mis-stamped that didn’t have it BY MISTAKE!!

You have a choice as to where you live, Mark, but in this country, we choose “In God We Trust” as the nation’s motto. Live with it or not– we don’t care about where you live.

That’s the “True American” spirit there…believe as I do, otherwise go live somewhere else…

(that was sarcasm, just for the record)

I really think it is wonderful to see the various affirmations of faith that some here have expressed. This, to me is part of the beauty of living in a free country. You get to experience the deep devotion that different people have to different causes and ideas. And that was NOT sarcasm, but a sincere expression of my appreciation for the freedom of religious expression in it’s many forms that we have the priveledge to enjoy in this country.

The right of public individual religious expression, and the right to abstain from any type of religious expression are both of equal weight in this country.

What purpose does it serve to belittle the “other guy”, that is the one who believes differently than us?

Was this the way of Christ?

Did he preach to His followers “Belittle those that believe not as you do”?

But the sentiment expressed in suggesting that someone should leave the country if they don’t have the same religious beliefs as you?

Perhaps it was intended as a “joke” but it hardly seems like a respectful way to treat a fellow American, regardless of how deeply you may differ on your religious beliefs or opionions about this topic.

So let me ask you, can you have a conversation with someone of differing beliefs or opinions and still treat them with dignity and respect?

To me, the ability to do just that, to respect and live at peace with those who believe differently than you, is at the heart of what being American is all about.

There is nothing I find more distasteful and un-American than the suggestion that someone who believes differently than I do, has any less right to live in this great country.

We may have differing beliefs, but we should be standing shoulder to shoulder when it comes to defending each others rights to freedom of religion and freedom of expression.

Why would we want it any other way? Do we want people to freely chose their belief? Or have belief imposed on them?

“Let those who thirst come” seems like an invitation, not an order.

Where in the Bible does Jesus ever call on the government or current authorities to sanction his belief in God? He lived in a climate that was highly hostile to his teachings, under religious and government authority that opposed him, and yet, he was one of the most highly successful preachers of all time (some might say the most succesfull but who am I to make that call, to each his own).

I fail to see how official sanction of belief in God by the government makes that belief any more powerful for those that choose to believe.

Who do you put your faith in? Ceasar? Or God?

That phrase has been used by different posters on this site. They must be viewing the same lib websites. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Hank, MO,
Get used to it my friend, alex is obummers little bullyboy here! He is always downgrading the vets and active duty folks here. Perhaps it’s the little green animal rearing his head because HE doesn’t have the stones to serve himself!!!

@SHAWN– It might delay the arrival of the paddy wagon, Shawn, but it would assure the arrival of the firing squad!

You are so right. The motto IN GOD WE TRUST could equally apply to Muslims as well as Satanists: there is no inference to Christ at all. Ask any Muslim if they trust their God: they will reply in the affirmative. Ask the same of a Satanist of their God Lucifer and they too will reply in the affirmative. So is that enough to affirm a belief in God? Not really since I am sure most on the planet believe in some form of god/deity. Perhaps they should have made the ultimate declaration… IN CHRIST WE TRUST or some such motto. Cause the IN GOD WE TRUST is just too darned generic and falls far short of what we really mean; which is that our faith in Christ Jesus is what we place our eternal trust in. Why could they not have affirmed that?

Good point!

Are you serious? That would be a blatant slap in the face to all non-Christians, who do, by the way, make up a sizeable portion of our population.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” President John Adams.
Adams was no fool as evidenced by this quotation: I happen to agree with his sentiment The Constitution was designed to fit a particular body of men and women: people who escaped the oppression and corruption of the Old World to setup a new form of government never before seen upon the earth in two millenia. That government, guided by those principles, has worked very well for over two hundred years: until moral and spiritual decay has resulted in a country that has to a very great degree, turned its back on God and what the founders truly believed and practiced.

The majority of Americans are Christians. You lose on that one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

@Shawn… you don’t need to believe in God to be a moral person.

Ah yes, another atheist waste of space. Where do you think this country gets its morals, ethics, and freedoms from? You have to look no farther than the Bible, God, and Jesus. Remember, a person cannot do anything really good or moral without the spirit of God leading them, Kang. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are the Trinity. If you have one, you have them all. Jesus and the U.S.A.? Of course the two are together. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Got that straight Ellen. This egotistical butthead does not like to be corrected or told anything that goes against his socialist,marxist, communist philosophy.

Obama’s GODS are Karl Marx, Lenin, Alinsky, Big Government, and his personal wealth.

Are you kidding? The vote was totally political. Don’t you think that no matter where they stand, the congressmen aren’t going to worry about an issue like this? They had to vote for it or be labeed un-American, Godless, atheist or whatever. they had to follow the herd no matter what their true feelings.

This was a totally “BI-PARTISAN” vote, and that’s what the man/child has been begging for. Now that he got what he wanted, he complains. Can you spell “DUPLICITOUS”?

How do you figure it was political when many libs voted in favor of it also? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Duh, they are ALL politicians, samurai, and ALL want to make points with their constituents.

You could be right Karolyn, but I think their voters will know who is truthful and who is not. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Also, Ellen. Wouild you please tell me how anybody can remove faith from your life? Either you have it or you don’t, and no matter what mottos, signs, prayers are or are not used, that’s how it is.

This is easy. You have faith removed from your life by not believing in the thing or person you have faith in. Just look at all the weinner atheists on this site. They were probably Christians before, but look at them now. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I repeat, that is up to the individual, and nobody can TAKE somebody’s faith from them.

Tell that to anyone that lived under Hitler, Stalin, or Mao. I’ll bet you’ll get a different answer. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Good point, Ellen. It makes you wonder how many atheists were in that group and how many of them voted FOR this re-affirmation, doesn’t it? What would you call a representative who doesn’t believe in God but who voted for the motto, “In God We Trust”?

Mark, you are right. This will not solve our problems. The only thing that WILL solve our problems is the acknowledgement of GOD as GOD. We have each gone our own way and created ourselves as god. But saying outright lies, like Obama has, needs to be brought attention to.

OK but there is not a human being alive nor one who has ever lived who has not at sometime in their life told outright lies. Actually I stand corrected there was one. His name was Jesus Christ. Everyone else has been a liar and a sinnner at some time in their lives. I know I have certainly been both. If you think you will ever have a President of the United States or any political leader who will not sometime of his career tell a lie you are living in a fantasy world. Human beings lie, cheat, steal, sin, and fornicate. And all politicians are human beings. In fact as Will Rogers once said when asked if politicians were liars, thieves, tax cheats, skirt chasers, crooks, and rascals. He said: “Yes, and they represent a good cross section of the electorate.” In that answer Rogers summed up the state of humanity. It has never changed and never will change no matter how many sermons, masses, and morality campaigns are held across the world. Man is fallen and this is his predicament. We can certainly try to improve and most of us do. But history has shown that leaders are fallible human beings. Were the fantasy Weapons of Mass Destruction an outright lie by President Bush that cost the lives of 5000 Americans and 200,000 Iraqis in the Iraq War? Probably or maybe they were a failure of intelligence. To the 205,000 dead and their families, I doubt that it matters either way.

@Mark At the end of the first gulf war Sadam (Can’t spell his last name and don’t feel like looking it up) Gassed the Kurds killing whole villages. Gas is a weapon of mass destruction. He had gas at one time. It might still be there some place. We just didn’t find it.

Bush, baaaaa! Iraq, baaaaa! WMD’s, baaaaa! Atheist rhetoric, lies, and innuendo, baaaaa! Can’t you people come up with some new material? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

jeanelane, just who has been saying that we don’t believe in GOD?

What movement is underfoot that is trying to do away with our motto?

Show me anything, anywhere that would indicate that we needed to take the time and money to reaffirm that In God we Trust was in jeopardy of falling by the wayside?

@eyeswideopen Probably the worst is the ACLU

The ACLU only wants the separation of church and state. To keep the government from rendering religious decrees on the public.

@eyeswideopen– probably the BEST one is the fact that your president didn’t even know that it IS the nation’s motto!! If that’s not “falling by the wayside”, I can’t imagine how you might define it.

Have you ever heard of REVEREND BARRY LYNN?

eddie,
Is that why they are assisting a muslim group in sueing a Catholic PRIVATE college that recieves no federal funding to remove their crusifixes from their rooms and hallways as it offende the muslims, who BTW don’t even have to be allowed to attend according to FEDERAL LAW??? show me where the separation of church and state is situated in THAT situation!!

Bzzzzz wrong answer ed-duh! You show me where it mentions seperation of church and state anywhere in the Constitution. I won’t hold my breath as it is not there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Where did I say it was in the Constitution? Nice try Samurai

I understand what you said ed, but the atheist, communis, looney liberal disunion believes in the destruction of Christianity. You can google about their founder, an admitted communist and atheist, about what his goals were for the aclu. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

What, eddie, no answer to mine?? BTW, how about you answer the question as asked instead of beating the heck out of the bush before hand!!

@ Mark. Our laws are founded on the 10 commandments, which still hang high in the Supreme court. Probably the only place left.

I thought obama was acting more like a 3 year old when he pitched his hissy fit.

Read my post on November 4, 2011, 1:19am. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Let me finish that sentence for you jeanelane: …and that is why the nation has the problems that it does.

jeanelane,
luckily, christians are still a majority in the US. Maybe not for long, but at this time!!

Health Care reform has been an issue since President Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 campaigned for a health insurance industry.In 1946 the term “Socialized Medicine” was born when the AMA,the AHA, American Bar Association, Chamber of Commencer fought President Trumann reform effort.The Health Industry was lobbing to the tune of 380 million a month during the debate on health care reform.My final thought on that debate is time well spent.It’s to bad the single payer option was killed

Sir, First, I must say, thank you for your service to this country.
Then I might add to that, while you go to the local Vets Hospital for care would you consider it one that provides excellent services, or one of the many that just shines you on and gets you out the door as soon as possible ONCE you have seen a lead nurse or doctor.? I have issue with a national health care program for a few reasons: One, personal choice, I have to pay for something that I do not believe in, and will not use. I believe in alternative medicines, this cut, chop, and pray it works program is not in my best interest. Second, the government has had nothing but hit and miss at helping and tending to our vets over the last many many years with the veteran hospitals. Before I get on a soap box and really make a point of this, (if you have not already gotten one), I will say this, you put your life on the line for my freedom to choose what I want, and I should not have to pay for something that is not beneficial to me.
Now on the original posting of the reaffirmation of the USA Motto, mabe we as a nation need to get back and shore up the basics before we can get a handle on the real issues facing this government, like over spending, and grandstanding. I say we vote all new blood in and get the slackers and the old timers who have lost track of WHY they are in office out of there. I find that sometimes a walk outside to get fresh air is good to reset the thoughts that we not coming the way you wanted them to.. maybe this is the type of “break” for a moment that congress needed to get their buts on track and start thinking of more than just themselves. It is evident they d**n sure do NOT think of the people who put them in office nor the people who still are paying taxes.

SMSgtZ,
If you think government run Healthcare is so good perhaps you should check into the scandle at Brecksville vets hospital near Cleveland Ohio a few years back. Short version, they had a quadraplegic in there that the nurses would bring in his food tray and just walk out. for a couple of days they scolded him for not eating!! Another vet in a wheelchair would come in after that and feed him, but was chased out after a few days. One of the local news networks came in and placed a camera innthe room to catch it going on. Imagine that, SCOLDING A QUADRAPLEGIC MAN FOR NOT FEEDING HIMSELF!! Fantastically inept healthcare is what it is!! I could go there to get my care but thanks but no thanks!!

Don’t forget the Trillion Dollar Stimulus Bill.

Lt. O, 1968-69 Nam (REMF)
“He and his ilk have done everything they can to take God out of our halls of freedom and distribute his socialist vomit on our nation and you think correcting his spew is a waste of taxpayer money and time”
What has anyone done to take God out of our country ?

Whats a matter? Can’t you read?

It’s more like Obama and his minions are playing God themselves.

Some Representative spent time reaffirming a already existing law because obama believed “E pluribus unum” was the country motto Think that correct No were in this piece did it say obama was trying to remove God.So I can only believe you have trouble understanding what you read

sarge, not at all! I think you just didn’t understand what I wrote and you read…wouldn’t be the first time and won’t be the last time.

JeffH,
since HE uses the term so loosely, I kinda wonder if the good sarge was a REMF!!!

Joe H., you’re not the first person to raise that question about the sarge.

You’re always up someones rear Joe!

Voice of experience again ed-duh? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai,
eddie’s at least 65 years old(retired) and still has brown hair. Guess how he dyes it????

Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and all of the Progressives wil bring GOD into the equation when it is propitious to do so, otherwise they put Him in one of their famous “LOCKBOXXES”.

I’m just curious what sort of “God” is this that you believe in?

The mere acts of men can “take God out of our halls of freedom” and put him in a “LOCKBOX”?

Sounds like a “god” perhaps, but certainly not the “God” described in the Bible.

This is why Jesus never requested or endorsed official sanction from the government. He believed in an all powerful God, and niether needed the actions of men to affirm that God’s power, nor feared their actions to hinder God.

The arguments from within the Bible (and within Christian history) are much stronger against government sanctioning of any religious belief. The government of a nation of people consisting of both “believers” and “non-believers” should be neutral when it comes to belief in God. It should neither endorse nor disallow any individual from making a public expression of their belief or disbelief. If the government being neutral about belief in God (taking no stance for or against religious belief of any kind) somehow “removes God” or in any other way diminishes the power of this “God” in your life, perhaps one should ask what sort of “God” they have placed their faith in.

I have no objection to people chosing to believe in God. But if you are going to bother believing in the God of the Bible, well then believe! I may chose to believe differently, but I will gladly challenge those who say they believe to consider a more robust belief in what they believe.

Peace to all regardless of your belief, and here’s to hoping we can continue to respect one another while discussing this relevant topic.

But let’s not lose too much time on it…while we’re distracted with this one important matter the country is being stolen right out from under our noses (and those who are doing the stealing are more than happy to see us asleep at the gate distracted with other things).

Have you forgotten, or was it just not shown on the progressive networks, when the President, on National T.V. stated that “we are NOT a Christian nation”?

To give hope back to America is NEVER a waste! They were showing the world that we are still a Christian nation. Praise God.

Congress has an approval rating this low due to the libs in office messing things up since 2007. Neeeeed to get you facts straight before you post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. Be careful as your stupid atheism is showing.

We are NOT the losers, Patti. This man’s success diminishes this nation, and I believe that is his intent. Thus, anything the Congress can do to stymie his success is, by definition, profitable to the country.

jeryl, could you please give us the standards or rules that make a true American? Maybe you should print the requirements, so that we can check and make sure that all you Conservatives meet the standards you expect everyone else to meet! Go ahead and print it, I can’t wait to see what they are.

@ eyeswide open. An American is sombody who respects and upholds the laws of this country? Who builds this country up in the eyes of the rest of the world. Somebody who is willing to fight for his or her country. Somebody who respects our election laws. Somebody who is Proud to be an American, and supports the American way of life which is Capitalism, and a free market society.

Tim Halpin
Vietnam 67-68

Tim Halpin,
I’d say that puts the glow on it pretty well!!!
Joe H.
Red Knight Vihn Long 70-71!

“An American is sombody who respects and upholds the laws of this country?”

No, an American is one who respects and upholds the laws of this country when they truly serve the purpose of freedom and justice.

A true American will stand up and fight against the laws of this country when they become unfair and unjust, or only serve the purpose of benefiting the lawmakers and those that fund their election campaigns and won’t just stand idly by out of “loyalty”.

“Who builds this country up in the eyes of the rest of the world.”

Yes, when the country or it’s representatives are acting justly and honorably. But when those that represent this country do things that are against human freedom and dignity, a true American will gladly denounce those actions even if some will claim they are being “un-American”.

“Somebody who is willing to fight for his or her country.”

You just again forgot to add ‘when the cause is just’. No one should blindly fight for this country without first asking some hard questions.

“Somebody who respects our election laws.” …when they are fair and just. If what’s on the books isn’t fair and just do we just sit idly by?

“Somebody who is Proud to be an American, and supports the American way of life which is Capitalism, and a free market society.”

Somebody who is proud to be an American, and supports the American way of life which is liberty and justice for ALL and respects the United States Constitution. I sure hope Capitalism is not the defining element of the American way of life. Capitalism is a valuable tool, when it is used well within a free society, but when the rights of corporations (those with the Capital) becomes more important than the rights of individuals (those whom the Capital is meant to serve) then we have a problem.

You need to read up on your history of how past American leaders (including said founding fathers) viewed with caution the forces of a free wheeling under regulated market. “Free markets” without proper restraints (regulations) will always lead to abuse by the few at the expense of the many and our forefathers knew this and took great pains to keep those forces at bay. Unfortunately, recent times have seen their fears start to become reality.

We’d better fear free market wealth hoarders who own the government, just as much as we would fear communist or socialist dictators who rule with an iron fist, or theocratic rulers who do the same. All of the above will gladly trample or tamper with the Constitution in order to protect the status quo.

True Americans had better wake up and stop all the infighting. We have to show the world that we are better than those who feign to be our “representatives”. When are we going to wake up and stop fighting each other and see who our true common enemy is?

Well said, fellow patriot!

Samurai
Crusader platoon Afghanistan 2001 – 2002
Dragonslayer platoon Iraq 2003 – 2004

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

That’s easy enough…just doing the opposite of liberals like yourself, eyes, would be a good start!

amen!!!

I second that Amen! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Eyeswideopen…but still blind.

jukebox, WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOUR TEA PARTIERS PROMISED 10 MONTHS AGO? This action, just shows how your buddies waste time on a ridiculous effort, while not trying to solve our huge problems. What do you think that cost us for the day in salaries? What is next reaffirming that the flag is red, white and blue?

@eyeswideopen. Nothing is going to happen till Obama and his regime are ousted. Republicans have sent several bills to the Senate but Harry Reid won’t bring any of them to the floor for discussion. Thanks to all the new rules and Obamacare and a radical left wing Democratic Senate nothing is going to happen
We don’t have a do nothing congress, we have a do nothing Senate.

Also, These new Republicans were elected because they said they would stop the over the top spending. Democrats lost by the biggest landslide in the country’s history, but you still didn[t learn anything. There will be no more big stimulus spending bills that only go to unions and cronys. There will be no tax increases as Democrats will just spend it on new government programs.

Gee eyes, in your own words, “GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT”!

JeffH,
We can all sure see how eyes stil believes in fiction. Better yet she thinks we will fall for the lies uhh I mean fiction she spouts.

I would bet the cost in salaries was a lot less than the Solyndra debacle. I would also bet that it will be a lot cheaper than O’s other vote buying schemes.

Such the hypocrit. You talk of the government wasting time and money on something so frivilous(your opinion)…I have a few names to mention about that…Charlie Rangel, Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds!

Rangel violated numerous House rules and federal laws and his punishment was swift. He was censured by his peers.

Let’s compare Rep. Rangel’s “punishment” to the Federal Government’s perjury cases brought by the United States Department of Justice against two former baseball players – Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.

Bonds was indicted from testimony made 8 years ago and a case filed over 4 years ago – so much for the Sixth Amendment and a right to a speedy trial! Bonds perjury charges relate to the use of “the cream” and “the clear:, two chemicals which were not deemed controlled substances by the FDA and therefore not illegal at the time of Bonds purported usage, Bonds is actually being charged with lying about taking legal substances. What punishment does Bonds face if he is convicted or perjury? Thirty years in prison!

Roger Clemens was indicted on August 19, 2010 on charges of perjury related to his statements that he never used performance-enhancing drugs. What punishment will Clemens face if convicted of perjury? Up to thirty years in prison and a $1.5 million fine, but most likely a 15 to 21 month sentence in federal prison.

Charlie Rangel has lied to Congress and committed perjury, what consequences will he bear beyond the censure, reprimand or maybe even less than that – a mere slap on the wrist and a strongly worded “ don’t do it again” letter or speech from the floor? Meanwhile, two others who dared defend themselves and face the federal government’s unlimited budget and manpower at great personal financial cost (Rangel has the cojones to whine that he has been forced to spend money in his defense!) could go to jail for up to thirty years!

FYI, the request that perjury charges be filed against Clemens and Bonds were bi-partisan. Talk of frivlous waste of money! Nuff said!

The idea that congress would charge anyone with lying is the epitome of hypocricy.

It probably didn’t cost nearly as much as your comrades cost us by shutting down the port of Oakland last night and creating havoc in the streets of that city.

It probably saved a couple hundred of million on some goofy program that studied the bathroom habits of Rhesus Monkeys in the jungles of Paraguay.

eyes,
Where are all those “shovel ready” jobs that obummer promised THREE YEARS ago?? My dog SAM has produced more shovel ready jobs than him!!!

Ha, ha, ha, ha! Very funny! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

They’re hiding in the deep crevices of Republicans posteriors searching for light of day Joe!

Now that response could be called a cheap shot, now couldn’t it ed? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai,
like I said above, cheap shots and his head permanantly planted up his wazoo!!

This effort shows our country reaffirming our beliefs in God and our Christian founding. If you don’t understand that, then you really are a moron. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Eyes
At least 18 jobs bills and several budget proposals are laying untouched on Harry Reids desk. The Progressives claim they will not create any jobs. If that were really the case wouldn’t it behove him to bring them to the floor, exposing their uselessness and soundly vote them down? Could it be that they, in fact, deal with our problems with our unemployment in a substantive, fiscally sound and sustainable manner? He certainly can’t allow anything like that to be brought to light, can he?

JUKEBOX says: “That should tell the world what his true feelings are.”

Jobs are more important for Americas than your version of a brutal god being paid tribute to? I’ll go along with that.

Rob

You don’t realize that Barry’s real objective is “LESS JOBS”, not more. Oh, well, so much for the Dumb Masses who will vote the fraud back in office.

Bzzzzz wrong answer! Didn’t anyone tell you that you need God and prayer for this country to succeed in its endeavors? No God, no jobs, and no country. Its that simple. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

That should also tell the world what they think of his “Jobs Bill”, too, Jukebox.

SSDD, eh Rob? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

SMsgtz,
no just better NOT to be like you!

oooooooooooooooooh, the Red Scare. What a bunch of dolts. Who could believe there are Communists and Marxists trying to infiltrate our political system and destroy our country.

Eddie, I keep seeing this “red scare” phrase as if it was such a silly thing to be afraid of world domination by the communists. The 38 million or so victims of Stalin probably would not think of it as a silly thing if they were still alive; the 70 million or so who were victims of Mao probably wouldn’t agree either. I remember the Cuban Crisis, and if you think people weren’t ‘red scared’ at that time (and for damned good reason), then you must be one naive little puppy. The ‘red scare’ was legitimate and cost this nation thousands of lives and billions of dollars to combat. It’s my opinion that you and your “comrades” should not pooh-pooh that threat for we have not likely seen the last of it. Such light treatment of such an extremely dangerous threat leads me to believe that those so treating it may be part of that threat, slyly and cunningly creeping toward my foxhole.

Hank, MO,
I think a few million cambodians and Vietnamese would agree with you!!!

No one questions that a healthy fear of being ruled by communist nations is a good thing. We should all have a healthy concern about being ruled by a government that decides what is best for us and uses force to get its way.

What was wrong with the red scare was the tendency for people to jump to conclusions and label people as “marxist” or “communist” without having any proof that such a thing was the case (hmm, like some comments here?).

Democracy can’t function when people just scream derogatory terms at those who don’t agree with them, regardless of the issue, and how “right” each side is certain they are about it.

Democracy functions when people truly listen to one another, respect one another, and treat each other as adults who have the right to chose their own path.

And this includes the choice of whether or not to believe in God or not – this is a choice that is a fundamental human right.

I’m pretty sure that derogatory language, name calling, and other tactics that attempt to belittle the other person are not going to be effective at convincing anyone that your “way of believing” is any better.

“You will know them by their fruits”. Name calling, jumping to conclusions, and failing to be those basic respectful people our parents expected us to grow up to be – these all seem to be rotten fruits in my opinion.

You want a strong country where freedom is cherished? Don’t look to the government – look to yourself. Act like a responsible adult and treat your fellow citizens with the respect and dignity that they deserve – regardless of whether they believe the same or differently than you.

First, we are a republic and not a democracy. Second, read my post on November 4, 2011, 1:19am. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Move to Russia…

So much for diversity from Surveyor.

BTW, was Jesus feeding many from a fish and a loaf socialism?

Rob

robbie,
you forget, he did it WILLINGLY and he stole from NO ONE!!!! Go shuffle your acorns!!!

ahhhhh such word play to insult others and steal their rights. Enough with the lies! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. Socialism only works till people run out of money.

In God We Trust…..all others must pay cash.

If it had said that on our money,our nation wouldnt be in debt up to our necks.

-CC.

Surveyor,
Better yet let him move to Greece!!!

Rusticus, obviously you are an atheist. I will not dispute your right to be one, however, I would rather believe in God, which I do,
than not believe in Him. When I die, if I find out I was wrong, at
least I would not have lost anything. If correct in my belief, then
I have everything. I have everlasting life and will be in the presence of my God.

How many jobs has your god created, Mustang? (Is that from the Mustang Ranch?)

How many diseases has he cured?

Rob

robbie,
Look to the Bible. He cured the leper, the cripple and many others. how many have YOU cured???

He has done a lot more than your worthless backside. BTW, he’s also pro-life and not pro death like you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpQ0Cvthw-o

“The United States Congress assembled…recommend this addition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States…a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools.”
United States Congress 1782

“By Law the United States Congress adds to U.S. coinage: In God We Trust.”
United States Congress 1864

They did the second one due to the overwhelming increase of Christians in our great country. This leaves your kind out there Rob.

“And this be our motto, ‘In God is our trust.’”
U.S. National Anthem 4th verse.

“Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of The Redeemer (God) of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian…This is a Christian nation.”
SCOTUS case Church of the Holy Trinity vs. United States 1892.

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Robert Smith, you sure seem to have a large piece of ignorance working for you. Oh and as to your comment to the lady about the Mustang Ranch, just because that was where your mother lived, had you
[even though the father was unknown] is no reason for you think all women come from your place of birth! And it’s sure nice to know idiots like you will get to burn for a very long time!

WWWHHHOOOOMMMPP!! Hey robbie I think I just detected a slap down!!!!

Rob has left the building and is not returning anytime soon. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai says: “Rob has left the building and is not returning anytime soon.”

I can understand how you would like to censor me. Facts appear to be so alien to you.

Rob

Only because you did so few postings, but I see you did your favorite tactic of posting when others have moved on. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

OMG ROB, ARE YOU STILL COMING HERE WITH YOUR PINK ATTITUDE!? AHHHH!

That bill WAS just a freaking waste of time. ONLY to serve the purpose of appearances for re-election. to make the Pubs look like they “have a heart”.

Start thinking that “your god is bigger than their god” and you will become a fundamental extremist of any faith. Be ye Christian, Jew or Muslim or Yabadabadoo…I’ve seen it happen with my own eyes.

It was to reaffirm that we are a Christian nation and our believe in our Christian founding principles. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Thetherhalfof, nothing is still nothing and you are a perfect example of it!! Were you always stupid or did you just slowly evolve in to it.

“Doh!” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Of course you’ll be so dead that you will not see “god”.

Another waste of space. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Move TO Cuba ! ! ! !

Their health care is as good as ours is.

They have about the same infant mortality and about the same life span as Americans.

Rob

So, move. Bye.

Hank, MO,
Nah, he won’t move there, they don’t have oak trees and acorns!!!

Care to cite a source or is this just another unfounded lie? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Trusting in man will burn. All what we cans see is changing. God never changes. In God We Trust!
I moved from communism it is your turn, move to China.

Weel said KUSA. Welcome to this great country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai wants a reference.

For life expectancy and America and Cuba being about equal go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

For infant mortality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

Rob

Thanks for the source Rob. I’ll look into it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Actually robbie, if you read your own list, you will see that OVERALL we have the same life expectancy and in FEMALES at birth we have a slightly LONGER life expectancy.

if russia is not a good place for you, saudi arabia would be. although in saudi arabia you would be executed for making the post you made.

Rusticus, was that a brain fart, or a bong moth? lol

You seem to be the only one controlled by ignorance, atheist. If you don’t like it, then you won’t like this:

http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/local/west-volusia/2011/10/18/deltona-city-commission-approves-spoken-prayer-to-start-meetings.

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

If you need the government to sanction your belief in God then you are like the man who built his house on the sand, and when the rains come and the winds pound, your house will crumble.

As for Jesus, he never appealed to the authorities to sanction his faith. He already had the ultimate authority on his side. What need did he have for government sanction of his faith? Why should any person today who truly believes in the same God that Jesus put his faith in (and was depending upon your particular brand of theology) need any government to officially sanction that belief?

You put your faith where you want to. I’ll put mine where I want to.

Let’s keep the US government out of it. It can be a slippery slope when any government sanctions one form of religious belief or another.

I understand what you are saying, but we were founded on Judeo-Christian principles. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Another lie from samurai: “I understand what you are saying, but we were founded on Judeo-Christian principles.”

You seem to forget “We the PEOPLE.”

That’s what we were founded upon.

Rob

Wrong answer Rob. We were founded a Christian nation. Have you forgotten that our laws are based on the 10 Commandments? We were not founded on your version of We The People. You don’t even know what that means. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai lies again. Let’s watch: “We were founded a Christian nation. Have you forgotten that our laws are based on the 10 Commandments? ”

Really? The ten commandments says that Americans won’t have the government offering a religion?

The Constitution says that kids gotta honor their mommy and daddy?

The Constitution says we gotta worship only one god?

BTW, killing, stealing, and the others that make common sense in a SOCIAL CONTRACT are in the defined paramaters of most religions and it is only conicidental that they have some overlap.

Rob

Same old refuted crap, eh Rob? Since you can’t prove what you say to be true, I have nothing to worry about. Go back and play with your very small acorns! BTW, aren’t you going to answer Ron Johnson’s replys to you or are you just going to bother me? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Rausticus, you and Robert Smith seem to have the market swed up when it comes to ignorance

Rausticus, make that sewed up!

John Hanna,
Great Post. Thank you for some great common sense.

John, I also agree.

John says: “In my study of the constitution I found that ‘In God We Trust’ refers to the rights we possess, the freedoms.”

Sad. I guess “We the PEOPLE” doesn’t work for you.

Rob

This coming from a man that had a child of his aborted before it was born? Here is something you should know.

In God We Trust: The Motto
One of the first found references of the motto “In God We Trust” is heard in the U.S. National Anthem, THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER. The song was written by Francis Scott Key in 1814 and later adopted as the national anthem. In the last stanza Key writes a variation of the phrase “…And this be our motto: In God is our trust. And the Star Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave, O’er that land of the free and the home of the brave.” The words were shortened to In God We Trust and first applied to U.S. coins in 1864.

In God We Trust: The History
The U.S. Department of Treasury states “the motto, IN GOD WE TRUST, was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, Urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins. From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861. It was written to Secretary Chase by Reverand M.R. Watkinson, Minister of the Gospel from Ridleyville, Pennsylvania. As a result, Secretary Chase instructed James Pollock, Director of the Mint at Philadelphia, to prepare a motto, in a letter dated November 20, 1861:

“Dear Sir: No nation can be strong except on the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins. You will cause a device to be prepared without unnecessary delay with a motto expressing in the fewest and tersest words possible this national recognition. It was found that the Act of Congress dated January 18, 1837, prescribed the mottoes and devices that should be placed upon the coins of the United States.”

Pollock suggested “Our Trust Is In God,”"Our God And Our Country,”"God And Our Country,”"God Our Trust.” Chase picked “In God We Trust” to be used on some of the government’s coins. The first time “In God We Trust” appeared on our coins was in 1864 on the new two cent coin, and by 1909 it was included on most the other coins. During the height of the Cold War, on July 11, 1955, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed Public Law 140 making it mandatory that all coinage and paper currency display the motto.

In God We Trust: The Foundation
American history demonstrates repeatedly that the nation was founded on Christian principles and its founding fathers wished to acknowledge that fact all over Washington D.C. buildings, in official documents, and historical speeches. Less than a hundred years after its Declaration of Independence, In God We Trust was proclaimed on its coins. America is a free nation, and freedom of religion is still guaranteed in the Constitution’s First Amendment.

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

The motto “In God We Trust” was added to coinage in 1861, just in time for the Civil War. I am offended that the politicians of the time used God for propaganda and the hope that He would help them defeat the Confederacy just because His name was added to the coinage. President Eisenhower added “In God We Trust” to all coinage and paper currency in the 1950s. The Soviets were “Godless” so it was a propaganda stunt to differentiate the US from the Soviets. This current reaffirmation of the motto is just like the events of the 1860s and 1950s and contrary to Matthew 6:1. Perhaps behaving and thinking more like a Christian would be more effective than a motto written on money. The meaning and sincerity of our actions is far more important than empty words.
When the Bible says “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” Why would we put God’s name on money and seek His approval?

I understand what you are saying Edward, but we put it there to reaffirm our belief in God and our Christian founding. I hope you understand what I’m saying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai, Well said. Thank you! After seeing what some of the idiots on here are saying I’m wondering how hell will have room for all of them!

Another lie from samurai: “This coming from a man that had a child of his aborted before it was born?”

I never “had” anyone aborted. Such never has nor never will be my decision.

It’s clear to me that you think so little of women that they can’t decide such things for themselves.

Rob

First Rob, you posted it and I’m reminding you of it. Second, abortion is not the subject, so knock off the nonsense. Just like a pop up target, you libs. You take a shot and knock them down, then they pop back up for more. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai lies again: “First Rob, you posted it and I’m reminding you of it.”

Nope. Lots of threads are on record in this forum. I’ve suggested several times you prove your claim. You have not because I never posted any such thing. I’ve told you repeatedly I never posted any such thing, thus you are knowingly lying.

Put up or shut up. Your swift boat lies don’t work on me.

Rob

Lie as much as you want, but we both know you posted it. You’re just pissed because someone remembered. No be quiet and go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Another lie from samurai. His claim is NOT proof. Without proof after being corrected samurai is lying.

The old threads are available. Still he hasn’t produced anything.

Rob

More condicending censorship from samurai: “No be quiet and go home.”

What’s your game samurai? Are you trying to swift boat any opposition out with lies and demands that we leave?

ROFL… Ain’t happened yet. Maybe you should pray. Oops, you said you and your wife have. Doesn’t seem to work samurai.

Rob

Another ignorant respose, but what did I expect? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I like this better then “In God We Trust”

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

You know when they said “Blessings” there must be a blesser. Only God has the power to bless and not humans. This is a reference to the Declaration of Independence where it says our rights are “…endowed by their Creator…” This means blessed by God. Ergo, In God We Trust is the appropriate motto for this great nation. Don’t forget to take your meds. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Quit lying samurai: “You know when they said “Blessings” there must be a blesser. Only God has the power to bless and not humans.”

I sneezed while I was putting gas in my car and the woman filling her car on the other side of the pump said, “Bless you.” She didn’t mention your brutal christian god at all.

Rob

There we go with the name calling again, lying. Since you can’t show where I was lying, I shall not worry about your hatred towards anything Christian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai, you said that if there are bessings there must be a god.

I correctly pointed out that one can bless another (I’ve pointed this out several times before to you) withour your brutal god in the picture.

Thus you KNOWINGLY made a claim about your god that isn’t true. Thus you lied.

Rob

A human being does not have the ability to bless anyone. We can give permission, orders, etc., be to bless someone takes a higher power. It takes God to do that. You said you have pointed this out many times, so go ahead and tell us when this was. Post every single time you did this. I’ll bet it’ll be “0″. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

At the moment, atheists are attempting to use the laws to enforce their non-beliefs– just as they did in the old communist Soviet Union.

mark, mark the Marxist speaks once again. You can always draw a line through the phrase on your own money if you don’t like it.

Just the idea that this was a victory for people who care about this country and morality over those who don’t is galling to some of you liberals.

The phrase was conceived by Salmon P. Chase, the U.S. Treasury Secretary under President Abraham Lincoln. Believing that no “nation can be strong except in the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins” wrote Chase in a letter to James Pollock, the Director of the Mint in Philadelphia. “In God We Trust” has appeared on U.S. coins since 1864 and on paper currency since 1957.

In Zorach v. Clauson (1952), the Supreme Court has also held that the nation’s “institutions presuppose a Supreme Being” and that government recognition of God does not constitute the establishment of such a state church as the Constitution’s authors intended to prohibit. Constitutionalists object to sworn judiciaries employing historical context in what they believe ought to be a raw textual interpretation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust

The phrase has did not appear on all coins until 1938. And the law that it must be on all coins and currency went into effect in 1956 at the height of the Red Scare against those atheist Soviets. But since it is already in law why reaffirm it. Don’t they have anything else to do in Congress with their time but reaffirm already existing laws? Also if Salmon P. Chase, a Lincoln appointee, first introduced this phrasing on coinage shouldn’t the law be revoked on principle ALONE? After all, as everyone who reads this blog knows, Lincoln was the greatest tyrant in American History! His printing of paper money began the long downward slide that has now destroyed America! On this fact alone, I say we strike the phrase from all U.S. money. It’s the patriotic thing to do.

There are already enough laws that are not enforced.
Many need to be reaffirmed.

Marxist mark…I hope your not trying your luck at lawyering!
Weak, weak, weak! Is your father named eddie by any chance? Just curious.

mark,
Id recommend they strike your brain, but with something that SMALL, that would take too much time away from congress!! Plus, they would have to find and identify it!!

Mark you are a lying crock of s***! Read the post I’ve written above and have your little lib mind awakened. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

The 3 stooges are rather touchy about Marks remarks! Jeff should have made a rebuttal but instead made the usual cheap shot. What a hoot!

And what are you ed-duh? I know. You must be bozo the clown, because your posts always sound like they have a circus mentality. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

eddie,
That is utterly ignorant comming from you, who takes cheap shots at all, never substantuates any statement and basically has his head permantly planted so far up his wazoo that it would take a backpack nuke to extracate it!!

Hey Jeff H, you can also look at this site:

http://www.americasfoundingfathers.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/in-god-we-trust/

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!