Reply to Les…..I pray your are wrong. I’m very concerned that you may be right.

Les is right somehow. Think Reagan fixed the budget deficit in 89-90 by pushing the button on veteran’s spouse benefits and widow with dependents benefits…about $74,000 each person taken at his whim for the economical decline. Now it would be good if 5% of corporate millionaires paid to fix the budget and returned monies to the widows and to the jobless this year. It can and should happen. Its just a little kinder the way abouts today.

Remember “Never let a crisis got to waste”? Well it’s a lot easier when you manufacture them too to meet your version of reality.

Socialism works really great until you run out of everyone else’s money. Unless of course the end state isn’t socialism at all. Now doesn’t that just make you go hmmmmmm as you look at all the “Secret ” events you Federal Government minions. After all they are a lot smart than you and I and need to be in charge.

should say “events Your Federal Government minions create.

How did the Government “force” them to do this? Also did the Government tell the banks to tell the borrowers not to worry about what they put down on their mortgage applications. No! It was the banks. It was also the banks that hired a bunch of untrained workers to sign off on foreclosure documents under a variety of titles. Let’s face it, the banks have been dishonest. That’s why folks are marching in New York and around the country. They want honest business practices.

hDONALD
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, LEARN ABOUT WHAT CLINTON DID WITH THE GLASS- STEAGEL ACT. THE COMMUNITY RE-INVESTMENT ACT. ALSO LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZER PREZ AND HIS ROLE IN BOYCOTTING BANKS IN ILL. TO FORCE LOANS TO PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THEM. STUDY CLOWARD AND PIVENS ( YEA THAT PIVENS) WHO IS STANDING WITH THE OWS PROTESTERS IN N.Y.

Very well said and good job putting that lib back in their place. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Reply to MaryB…..Your correct that just righting to your elected officials is not enough. Be sure at every election you vote and attend town hall meetings if they have them in your area and let your voice be heard. Also, look at whatever active organizations are available in your area that share your beliefs. For example, if you are a Christian, and/or a conservative, look go on their website (Tea Party for example) to find if there is a local group. If you are otherwise, look for whatever group closely reflects your values. Good luck.

pdlane: Good for you.

Two blind mice….Do I hear a third?

dwright77 –Yeah!! YOU!!

If you are going to join the protests in Washington, good job! I must disagree with you on the Vietnam protesters. Since they were backed by the libs of the time and supported Jane Fonda and her actions. My father and uncle both went to Vietnam for 3 tours each. I asked my father when he retired in 1987 about Vietnam. He told me that if it were still going on, he would go back and help to finish the mission. Now there is a hard core military man. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Well, I know a lot of Vietnam vets who believe it waws a big waste of time and lives! Big deal – “hard core military man” – They’re the ones like the powers in the Pentagon who love war! Why wouldn’t they? Without it, they have no life!

Who the h*** are you to talk about someone that has done more for this country, also knows what freedom really is, than you have? You have never done anything except sit on your fat backside and moan, groan, bitch, and complain all your life. FYI my father didn’t like fighting and killing, but he believed in completing the mission. Every military leader (NCO and officer) will tell you “the mission comes first.” So what is your problem? Didn’t mommy and daddy hug you enough when you were a kid? Also, how can you say such crap to me or my father? We have put our lives on the line protecting you from 1955 – 2005, so as far as I’m concerned, you should tell us thank you and just go away. You are a waste of time.

Large numbers of military men come home wounded and maimed in both body and mind. Many never recover, especially from the horrors of war.

They go into the military believing in the goodness of America, and the justice of their mission. Somewhere along the way, disillusionment and futility often set in. They come home in ruins after giving their all for their country, only to find that their country no longer has much use nor respect for them. Their lives have been destroyed for a country that is crumbling under its own corruption.

To denigrate these men and women is the ultimate slap in the face. These are the best and the bravest. When the time comes that they are all the defense we have against the greatest evil ever known, you’d better hope there are still enough of them left who remember their sworn duty to protect and defend…YOU.

Kate8–I must agree with you.

‘Reply to F86 The non violent and open to other opinions has spoken. Is having your “lips torn off” not just a tad violent??All because we are prepared to stand against these moronic/demonic,left wing people who are prepared to listen and subscribe to ‘gods” like Michael Moore,who is stinking rich and as anti American as his idol Fidel.Or that other super filthy rich slug George Soros who only put their money into organisations prepared to bring about the destruction of the USA.As a non member of your wonderful country that has been the beacon and protector of the West and western values I fail to see how your handlers and gods are going to keep the west from falling into the hands of commies/islamist extremists and socialists.Remember the first ones they will exterminate will be the likes of you.

Oh great another Black Panther Obama supporter.

That was in reference to F86′s statement.

Ahhhhh such word play to insult others and steal their rights. Why do you make threats that you don’t have the nads to back up? Since you know nothing about Honor, duty, service, or patriotism, answering your posts are a complete waste of time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You mean Christian values and the left? That I would agree. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Then buy from Ford, a company that was not subsidized off the backs of the taxpayer!

Exactly! I respect and admire the heck out of Ford! Let’s support the the first automakers and still strong in America! I buy Sears too, Craftsmen and Black and Decker…Made in the USA! Support America whenever you can…Supply and demand keeps Americans working and more American products stocked on shelves…NOT “made in China”…I always let my grocers know what I prefer stocked if they don’t carry it in the store then I tell my family and friends to do the same. If we all start, the American companies have to start hiring to keep up with demand and buyers stop ordering as much from overseas…they always replace the products that are selling…Let it be the American ones! Go with local credit unions not Big Banks like citi. I am against the debit card fees they want to charge! People can drive change in a positive way. We just have to be smart about it and dedicated to it!

Airangel- I will always buy “Made in the U.S.A.” products until the day I die. If I am looking for a certain product and it is made in China or any other country I will not buy it. I had to buy a dog crate a few months ago, went to Petsmart, found the correct size but it was made in China. I told the clerk I would not buy it and went to the other pet store, found one that was made in the U.S. and I bought it. It is tough to find products that are made in the U.S. but if a person looks hard enough they can find them.

Reply to Airangel…..Couldn’t agree with you more! Buy American.

I have purchased cars from GM for 50 years. As a taxpayer I am well aware my money helped bail out GM. Since I had no say in the bailout, it is on this basis that I will continue to buy from GM–Why would I want my money to go totally down the drain? Even if Ford had received a bailout-I would support them and buy a car from them. I do not want to see the U.S. auto industry fail.

Amen!

Have you heard about the 3 mil jobs that are coming back to the US from overseas? Saw it on the news the other day. Chinese wages are going up and transportation costs too much. If each American spent on $3 per week more on Made in USA, it would create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Sorry I don’t recall the exact number and can’t find it, but it is a lot.

Reply to denniso…..How many Tea Party protestors been arrested?? How many New York protestors been arrested. Are you saying the New York protestors who you seem to support are peaceful???? You need to watch Fox News to see both sides and not only watch the liberal mainstream media, CNN or MSNBC. You are badly misinformed.

Both Faux News – controlled by NeoConservative ZioNazi Likudnic Rupert Murdock and their NeoLiberal counterparts in Hegelian opposition are partners in crime when it comes to distortion, misrepresentation and deceit. Trial by Media is treason when it comes to tricking the people into ill advised war & occupation.

When is the last time Faux News was actually courteous to a 9/11 truther – or an Anti-Zionist Jew [has Faux News EVER given a fair hearing, any national airing AT ALL to an Anti-Zionist Jew?]

Just because something is on the internet does not in itself make it true – but from there you have a chance to check out what the Lamestream duopoly of deception does NOT tell you – or more accurately, they whisper the truth and scream the lie. That is, if you hear it once – like how there were 3 to 5 shooters at Ft. Hood during the killing sprere – that is mostly something of merit. My, what a “COINCIDENCE” the ONLY shooter they caught just so HAPPENED to be a Muslim!

Lying is your main gambit. You can’t prove your violence allegations against the tea party – more B.S. from the habitually lying left.

But, yes, our 2nd amendment rights do protect us against a fascist/ communist or any other kind of dictatorship government. So we will let fascists/communists like you, Obummer, Soros, Moore and Baldwin understand we will resist with armed revolution if need be.

Obummer is a de facto dictator. He uses edicts and regulations he invents out of whole cloth and are not laws passed by the legislature to destroy our republic, liberties and the rule of law. We will resist!

We will resist if Obummer declares martial law and attempts to suspend elections.

Hey there Petty,I mean Pesky…you and others like you are clearly just delusional,and are transferring to Obama your pent up anger and frustration from your forced support of Bush(loyalty to your leaders neing of paramount importance)who took us further down the road toward a police state than anyone since your buddies Nixon and J Edgar Hoover,good Republicans that they both were. We people able to think clearly do feel your pain and suffering.

The only threat to you is yourself with a weapon.

Pesky, just never mind F86 and duhnniso. They were dropped on their heads when they were born. You know, the doctor got ready to catch them when they were coming out, but dropped them because he had butter fingers. Why don’t you 2 go somewhere else. I hear there is room at the Huffington Post or USA Today. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Would you stop calling the tea party a bunch of gun slingers already??? I’ve been to 10 or so TP rallies, and they do not for a second promote violence, hatred, contempt, or the like. If someone comes to a TP event with that intention, they will be asked to leave. Maybe if you would attend an event or 2 or 10, you’ll see that. We are NOT gunslinging Clint Eastwoods or ‘Johnny Waynes.’ We simply stand for less government, fiscal responsibility, lower taxes, and economic freedom. You seem to want to ignore that!!!!

I’ve been to events w/ tea party people…I’ve seen video clips of teap aprty people. No,all of them are not violent,but I’ve watched and heard many who are…shout down other spekers,threaten armed revolution,like the guy above this post,use incendiary language,call those who disagree w/ them communists,marxists,socialists,traitors,enemies,unpatriotic…
Why would tea party folks feel the need to show off their loaded weapons in public? They are dumb enough to not realize that we know they are mostly legal as things stand now?

Reply to denniso…..Again you are badly mistaken. There is RARELY any violence at Tea Party events in contrast to Liberal events such as the New York mob-fest. This is an appropriate term due to the number of arrests that has been made in New York a liberal state!

How about those union longshoreman dirupting rail traffic and breaking down private fences? How about the union electrician that shot the non-union business owner?

There have no incident of violence by the Occupy protesters. None.

Well, if you are affraid, then lock your door and don’t come out.

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

2nd Amendment, U.S. Constitution

If they are bearing arms, then I trust they are legal and have all the proper paperwork in order. If not, then the police would have been busy arresting people, right? You talk about arms, how about Hitlery Clinton and the U.N. Small Arms Treaty? This is a gross violation of our God given rights under the 2nd Amendment. Why would they wish to give the U.N. any say over whether we own weapons or not? I know you will not answer these questions, but don’t leave me here listen to crickets chirping in the background. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

denisso, you’re so full of it your eyes are brown ya hate monger!

Well said and very true Jeff H., fellow patriot! Keep up the good fight! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Yea But it sounds better to them if they can call TP names that gives them support so they don’t look stupid in what they believe in. most are being paid by UNIONS to make TP functions sound out of bounds with the gun slinging. when its union abusing their power through HUGE donations to the candidate they can controll

Actually, you are the one who looks pretty stupid since Union boss Hoffa has explicitly threatened the TP. The Unions are backing anything that is Obama.

You are merely minnions of the Koch bros, Dick Armey, and Karl Rove.

And F86 gets tingles down his leg for Obama bin Laden. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

so long as the guns are not employed in a threatening manner – what is the problem with exercising the 2nd amendment? Here in Georgia there may be exclusions of political rallies for the open bearing of arms – but given how the police have on occasion gotten out of hand – so long as the bearing of arms is properly contained in a moral context – why should that be a problem?

Do you know the difference between, you and a fence post?
The fence post is useful.

Well Mr. Fence post, you are good for pounding in the dirt, seeing’s how you have a heartbeat and all.

Classic lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist tactic. Don’t know anything, so you result to threats. Shows how less intelligent you and your ilk really are. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

That’s funny…I haven’t heard of one Tea Party member being arrested for violence. Those that brought guns to rally’s obviously lived in states that allow their citizens to carry and they are simply exercising their 2nd amendment rights. They leave the place clean, do not incite violence, and do not shout obscenities as you accuse. These “people” involved in the “Occupy” BS are a bunch of wayward souls (slugs) that have never been taught by their parents that they need to work in order to become successful. They think that YOU and I OWE them a living. Have you read their demands???? A few are: Completely open borders (WTF??); ALL debt (mortgages, student loans, etc.) forgiven; confiscation of all guns; the destruction of capitalism and the converstion to communism, etc. This is disturbing because it is VERY obvious that these kids are being used. They have NOT been taught the dangers of socialism/communism in school or by their parents. Their protest completely mirrors the agenda of none other that Obama! Well, for what it’s worth…I like the America I grew up in. I hate what it has become today with a bunch of sniveling whiners that have no skills, no motivation, no morals, and absolutely zero care about anyone but themselves. If this is what you want then why don’t you go and gather all those lost souls and go somewhere where you can experience the utopia you are all looking for. You know like Cuba, China, etc. You get the picture!! All the Tea Party wants is the return of the robust, self sufficient United States of America that we all have made our lives in…as FREE people. And trust me, under this and the previous administration, we currently are NOT as free as we would like to think we are.

Thanks for bringing this out in the open.

I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Obviously you don’t read the news only Huffington!

You are a useful idiot. Full of lies. You’ve never been to a Tea Party Rally or talked with folks in the movement. You must have skin in the game or are a young american who has been brainwashed by your liberal edu. in the unionized public schools. You lack the reasoning power to exercise your voting power with intelligence or perspective. You have bought into False liberal bromides promoted as fact and our nation keeps buying into a system of gvt that must fail. It’s only when the latest Liberal Failures occur that the mentally deficient realize that it is ruining their lives and opportunities do they react and vote out Liberals. This will happen again and the cycle will begin anew. It is too bad that the people can’t figure out that the politicians win and the people loose. Do you really think any other scenario will happen as long as their are closed minded people like you out there?

Tea party? I have attended two of them and will not go to another. Where I live, the tea parties here are geared towards Republicans only, RINOs. They are a waste of my time. I will make up my own mind about the issues and whom to vote for.

That’s good that you make up your mind of what or who to vote for Claire. I told that to Sook Young last year. She looked over pamphlets for various candidates for local, state, and federal elections. Not all Tea Party meetings are bad. The meetings we attend here are peaceful and tend to stick to the ideals of the Tea Party. If you ever come to Elkhart, Indiana, we can go to one and I hope it would change you mind about some of the Tea Party meetings. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Speaking about ourselves again, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

So no rightwingers have used drugs? None do so now? You forget that Shrub admitted to cocaine use? was he a leftist hippie? Have you seen any rightwingers wreck their brains and lives and the lives of family w/ alcohol? Alcohol is not a dangerous drug?

Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone, sonny. How many brain cells you got left, anyway?

Clinton smoked pot!

How about that “voice of the right” load, Rush Limbaugh? He’s got a pharmacy running in his blood stream. Drugs infect all walks of life and political persuasions. He and Michael Moore both could use some dietary advice… two side of the same coin.

That was the only positive thing about him!

So what?

Clinton used cocaine from the Mena connection [CIA] to seduce underage teenage girls – but seeing as how NeoCon Icon Lt. Col. Ollie North was also involved in the drug trafficking, money laundering and black ops – the NeoCons cannot really address that without implicating themselves – oops

I want to take the beam from in front of the hypocrites and pound them about the head & shoulders till they come to their senses.

Obama admitted using and selling cocaine. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”-Benito Mussolini

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”-Adolf Hitler

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”-John Stuart Mill

talkin – If by stupid you mean without guile, then that might be true.

Many equate intelligence with cleverness and the ability to deceive.

I just call that evil.

Since the people you quoted were athiests, this gives no support to your arguement. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

“Turn away from (atheistic blathering) and the OPPOSING IDEAS [transliterated ANTITHESIS] of what is falsely called knowledge” I Timothy 6:20 – I would urge you to study out the Hegelian Dialectic as a manipulation tactic – both the ‘left’ and the ‘right’ are >>OPPOSING IDEAS<< – both are wrong about something major – especially NeoCons confuse militarism – that is building empire – with DEFENSE as evidenced by the clear FACT that after all these years throughout both Bush terms OUR BORDERS REMAIN WIDE OPEN worse still NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

Hey Mark, our borders are still open under Obama.

Right on! I guess these idiot libs that tried to answer you with quotes must have forgotten that they were to the left of center in ideology. Just another 2 examples of our failing education system and ridiculous atheist crap. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Her IQ far out performs yours.

Typical Lucy leftest — redicule, demean, no facts, only leftest verbal excrement.

I long for days when a lefty actually tried to converse using passion for what they believed in, sad that everything they believed in was a total failure world wide for the past 100 plus years, now they must resort to terminal oral defecation.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

You mean ANDY Coulter? the Transvestite caustic & self-righteous NeoCon? On of HIS books was entitled “If Democrats Had Any Brains They Would Be Republicans” If I were to write a response pamphlet I would entitle it “If Republicans Had Any Conscience They Would Be Constitutionalists”

My parents – both flaming NeoLiberals – and as a Southerner I am obliged to say “Bless their hearts” [Here in the south - you can say ANYTHING about someone - no matter how nasty -so long as you say 'Bless his/her/their heart(s)] They have read CueBall James Carville’s “We’re Right, They’re Wrong” – just as polarized, just as biased – just as self righteous – may God have mercy on us all!

Me? Jim Baker wrote a book that I hope to invest in – not merely in terms of buying – but reading cover to cover “I Was wrong!” The humility and grace of admitting it – we all have the opportunity, too few times we make good use of it. I was wrong to support a war based on TRIAL BY MEDIA – I was wrong to think that choosing one package of MT political rhetoric over the other would actually result in positive meaningful changes.

What about you? If you had a chance to admit you were wrong about something, what would you own up to?

You mean like Bill “Pimp” Clinton, Al Gore, and Obama bin Laden? Neeeeed to get your facts straight before you post. I’ll bet you bought into Al Gore’s global warming nonsense and helped him to attain some $300 million dollars from spouting lies. I’ll bet you even bought books by Saul Alinsky, Jeremiah Wright, Farrakhan, and other wackos. Another troll come here to play and leave having his arse kicked by the patriots on this site and others who know better. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

The same thing can be said about Clinto, Al Gore, and Obama bin Laden. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. I would listen to her and her IQ before even trying to do the same with your obviously less intelligent self.

denniso, Nick, must be related to that nut case Glen Beck! lol. America promptly showed what they thought of Glen didn’t they? The indoctrination has been going on since the 80′s, you need to feel sorry for those who only know how to solve problems with violence, and recognize that they can’t deal with logic or facts.

You mean the way Obummer’s Holder tried to take care of the 2nd amendment by way murdering border guards and other innocents with Fast and Furious?

You’re right Eyes…most of the hard rightwing can’t discuss anything w/o going ballistic,pun intended. They are the only ‘chosen’ people and they think they have a divine right to use violence to silence any opposition. I know that,as you do,but I won’t let them off the hook just because they huff and puff,like the big bad wolf.

denniso,
Using your analogy, that would make you one of the 3 little pigs. Which one are you? I’d give even money you’re one of those that feed at the public trough & expect that when your house blew down, that every one “owed” you a new house with all the bells & whistles.

The house they’re in doesn’t get blown down in a storm, it gets completely trashed by the fools that are in it and THEN they expect it to be upgraded to a better model. Funny how people that sit on their butts for generations now expect cost of living adjustments like they are actually productive members of society.

ROTFLMAO

You two are full of hot air,and nothing more. Like I’ve said several times over the 2 yrs on this site…unlike most here,I’ve been self employed for about 95% of my working life,creating my own work,hiring people and never doing any work connected to the gov’t or subsidies of any kind.

I’d be willing to bet that more than 1/2 of the deluded people here,like you guys,have worked for gov’t or in careers supported or subsidized by one or another levels of gov’t. It’s a typical pattern among many rightwing zealots…work in a gov’t job your whole life,then bitch and moan about the evil gov’t when you retire. It’s simple hypocrisy.

Tell me what work you’ve done and if it’s connected to gov’t in any way.Try to be honest…

eyeswideopen & denniso,
I just came in from helping a friend run some cattle to the auction yard, I sure could use some boot lickers to clean the cow dung off. Don’t worry about the taste, it’s the as the crap from the guvment.

So your cowboy friend is probably being subsidized by the tax payers to ‘run’ his cattle on public land,right?

Sounds good for you as this must be an endless supply of food for you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Stuff it, denniso. You want to talk about death threats? How about the threat to Americans who oppose Obama and Co. Since he now claims the right to take out anyone of his choosing, including American citizens, who’s the bigger threat? It’s okay for him to threaten us, and it’s not even veiled.

Ron Paul has warned that journalists could be next. Well, guess what? They’ve already been targeting journalists, for some time now. The media just doesn’t report it. Christopher Story comes immediately to mind. Many others fear for their lives, and know their time is short.

In fact, there have been countless assassinations by your icons…Willy and Hilly swatted them like flies. Many dignitaries, witnesses, microbiologists…have all met with unfortunate accidents and sudden death. This is exactly what happened in Germany. A few at a time…no one cared too much. After all, it didn’t affect them…By the time Jews and Christians were being rounded up and sent to the ovens, hardly anyone cared at all. As long as it wasn’t them…

Even now, no one is willing to hear this stuff. So many taboo subjects these days…don’t want to hear it. Try to talk about what’s going on the subject gets changed real quick.

Wait until they come for you.

You’ve lost your mind completely! Obama is going after journalists?? Where in holy hell do you come up w/ this crap? You have become,or maybe always have been,totally delusional! Take a vacation and clear your foggy mind.

denniso – Do you really not pay attention to anything? You are really so comfortable in your delusion that you just don’t need to open your eyes?

When you don’t like what someone says, you just ridicule. Is that really all you’ve got?

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/ron-paul-journalists-next-government-assassination-targets

Oh, and I also just read where there is a bill to make “offending” someone online a crime.

I wonder if that will apply to the likes of you, or only to conservatives.

First, lose the attitude duhnniso. That’s not the way to talk to a lady. Second, there is nothing holy about hell. Get your facts straight. Third, remember that since this administration is facist/socialist like, they will go after journalists that are against what they stand for or who have different opinions. Neeeeed to read your history more, not the revised history either. Neeeeed to also get some psychological help and attend anger management classes every week (This is the advice of my wife.). FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Because you read something ‘somewhere’ you automatically think it’s true? There is a movement to make it a crime to bully a kid online,if it leads to suicide of the kid. If bullies do that in person it can also lead to charges against the bullies. No difference. Maybe you’re in favor of bullying kids to the point of suicide?

No, I’m not in favor of that duhnniso. But for things like this to stop takes 2 good, loving, caring parents to work with the child, school, and other kid’s parents to nip this thing in the bud. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Why don’t you do the same moron? You always post things that are never backed up with sources or facts. Just the same old lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. Obama bin Laden does need to be impeached (Will it happen? Yes? No?) or be tried for treason. You and eyes wide shut (More like glued shut by lib rhetoric and beliefs) are nothing more than 2 inflamed boils on the buttocks of this country. In which, both of you need to be surgically removed. That is not a threat, just an observation. Now you 2 can holds hands and rebury your heads in the sand. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Your tone makes you sound like you worship the devil(pretend though he is)rather than a kind,loving god…do you also pretend to follow Jesus? Your obvious anger,bitterness and vitriol don’t make you sound like a desciple of his.

Do you ‘turn the other cheek’??Do you think your Jesus would tell you to only help those who you judge to be worthy of it,and to denigrate and demonize fellow humans who you think are worthless?

Your ‘God and country’ mantra is so phony and hypocritical when we look at what you say in your posts.

denniso – This, coming from you, who uses ridicule and denigration to try to marginalize anyone who doesn’t “think” (I use that term loosely) like you?

You have a lot of nerve attempting to use Jesus to make a point. You know nothing of what He taught.

OMG! Thank you for accurately describing yourself duhnniso! See, I knew you would come out and tell the truth one day. You want to talk about this process stuff like my tone, my combativeness. If you think my tone is bad, then you should really see me when I’m angry. My wife will tell you that it is not pretty. Yes I am a Christian and believe in God and Jesus. I also do realize I have a lot to answer for, so that’s why I pray everyday for forgiveness of the dumb things I do, also for people like you. I hope this answers your questions, duhnniso. 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai – I don’t recall seeing you posting any links – only opinions and denigration of others, while trying to portray the good Christian.

Actually Karolyn, if you look at my posts you will see quotes and some sites. These should count as sources. Here are some others I use:

http://www.wallbuilders.com
http://www.keepgodinamerica.com
http://www.americasfoundingfathers.wordpress.com
http://www.thehistorychannel
Also, to include, many factual books.

FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I was raised in the ‘church’. I read the bible so I can refute and debate what the extreme bible thumpers try to use it to justify their silly and wrong headed actions. 90% of the so called Christians on this site wouldn’t pass a test for real Christianity. They are mostly hypocrites who only use the cover of their so called Christianity so they can spout foul and distasteful things and play tough w/ their guns. Would Jesus own a gun to be used to shoot another human under any conditions? I don’t think so…

No he would not own a gun to shoot someone, but he did tell his disciples to purchase swords to defend themselves. Self defense is a right of everyone. If you were raised going to church, which is great, why do you sound the way you do now? Don’t you remember things like: “Do not judge.” “Do not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” “Love thy neibor as thyself.” Do you really remember these things and practice them or do you only talk about them after someone has verbally spanked you? By the way you post, it sure doesn’t sound like it at all. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

samurai – I think Jesus would say to denniso something like, “Oh you hypocrite”. Or how about, “Before you point out the speck in your neighbor’s eye, get the beam out of your own eye”.

At least we admit we have faults and shortcomings. Libs like denniso just sit on their high horse and pass judgements…but only on Christians.

You guys don’t get it? You are the ones who make public claims of following and loving Jesus. I Don’t make those claims and certainly not publicly. If you claim to follow a man of peace and love,yet you condemn and judge and malign and threaten,then you are hypocritical. It’s that simple. You have the responsibility to act like followers of Jesus if you want to make the claim that you are Christian. Or, you’re faking your Christianity,which is what many of you actually do. Act like bullies,wave guns and threats of revolution and violence around,yet make a false claim on Jesus.

I agree Kate8. Here he/she said they were raised in the church and read the Bible. These are good things, but this person just doesn’t practice them too often. Like you said, especially with Christians. This person is just another atheist.

Sook Young tells me that atheists have significantly more lifetime suicide attempts, more relatives that commit suicide, are younger, less often married, ;ess often have children, and less contact with family members. Athiests perceive fewer reasons for living, are more impulsive, aggressive, and more likely to abuse substances. This is according to the psychiatrists that she works for at the hospital. Don’t many of these describe duhnniso and other libs and wackos that come to this site?

Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Yep, you don’t respond to the points I made about your warped Christianity…why don’t you try to stick to the point? How do you feel you follow and emulate Jesus? Hate? Vitriol?Anger?Violence?

And Jesus never told his followers to buy swords!

No need to reply to a person that is nothing more than a hate monger of anything Christian. How can you be this way and not hate our founding? We were founded on Christian principles and were founded a Christian nation. Get over it and go away. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You don’t care to respond,then I don’t either. Hasta luego..

Good riddence. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

He retires in 2016

If you are referring to the Prezidente of Amerika Obama dont be so sure he will retire without completely phasing in his dictatorship starting with a martial law event around the 2012 elections.

Marty, I’m with you! It seems that no one is really understanding that the radical left & radical right are heading us right into a dictatorship & will have the U.N. in control of the New World Order! I believe it’s a given that it will happen in 2012! The radical Islamists will help bring down America & many other countries also & some have already proclaimed that Islam & their laws will supercede ours~then we will be in a 3rd world kind of country. Just my thoughts & beliefs. I certainly hope that it never happens here,but it’s been in the works for decades by the Bilderberg Group & the U.N. The U.N. is just the pennical for taking over the U.S. & throw our military in prisons around the world for war crimes. That’s what the International Criminal Court is for … the demise of the U.S.

He gets kicked out or voted out next year. Quit be an idiot. Wake up and smell the coffee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

From what, golf or hoops? I know I could beat him at both, and I’m almost 70!!

Hey RASH, what an appropriate name for yourself. After seeing some of the comments here I’m off too. Personal Liberty my ass! Good luck in your FEMA camp!

Freedom of speech is a God given liberty, isn’t it? Just go away. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Whhhhhaaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Hit the bricks.

Who let yours? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Why don’t you go back to your friends at the Huff N Puff.

Don’t forget to tax the Koch Brothers. I think the “backers” of both parties are in it for themselves. I will repeat myself–these “backers” are the people that want to “rule” America and all Americans. The politicians and the elected politicians are merely following orders.

Right On!

It’s true that probably most, if not all, of the “backers” of both the Conservatives and the Liberals are in it for themselves.
It just seems that the Conservatives are getting attacked more thatn the Liberals.
I would love to see the Liberals get, at the very least, their fair share of demonization.
After all, the Liberals have ruined this nation.

Wow…
Liberals have ruined this nation?

Playing party politics is not only Old School, outdated and obsolete, it only serves to play into the hands of the major political parties that use a Divide and Conquer strategy against the general public.

I think it would be more accurate to say that BOTH parties have ruined this nation, as BOTH parties serve corporate interests, and not your interests.

I predicted over a year ago, that if the grassroots movement known as the Tea Party were to join with the Republican Party, if the Tea Party were to get into bed with those corporate whores, the Republicans, that would be the end of the Tea Party.

I was told by a poster on this site, that the Tea Party is taking over the Republican party.

Well, we can see how that went for them can’t we? They were totally co opted.

My advise concerning the Occupy Wall Street bunch….just let them do their thing. They have not been co opted yet. They may be disorganized, they may be targeting the wrong institution, but I am seeing some signs that at least some of them are starting to get it with their End the Fed signs.

And JC further down….
many of you people cannot see the forest through the trees.
You keep blaming liberals for all our problems…thats as bad as liberals blaming conservatives for all our problems.

The problem is that BOTH parties are bought and paid for by corporate America. More people than ever before are beginning to realize this. When is the light bulb going to go on?

I just cannot believe the ignorance by some posters on this site.

To claim the liberals are solely responsible for ruining this country is to willfully turn a blind eye to all the abuses that have occurred under the Republicans. What kind of damage has the Patriot Act done to our Bill of Rights? Thank you George Bush….
Using Executive Order, Bush raised the Executive Branch to a level that was above the law.

You also turn a blind eye to the fact that Bush era financial regulators turned a blind eye to all the corruption in the lending industry, despite FBI warnings of rampant corruption. No one saw fit to regulate the Credit Default Swap game…and as a result, we also see how that turned out.

Are you happy with our current economic situation?
You are totally kidding yourself if you think this was a result of Obama taking office.

Jokers….

sidewinder – Yes, both parties have played a part in the ruin of this nation.

However, it was the Democrat party that was first infiltrated by communists back in the 60s, with their promise that they would not have to use military force to conquer us, but would do it from within. They would take over, first, the Democrat party (which they did), and then infiltrate the Right (which they have).

They would also infiltrate every institution, which they have.

Right On Kate8. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. Maybe we need another Joe McCarthy to come to Washington.

samurai – Yes, the much demonized (by the Left) McCarthy. Back then it was TREASON to be a communist in America. If it weren’t for McCarthy, the communist takeover back then might have succeeded.

Today, we have no one who will stand up against the communists, except for, perhaps, Ron Paul. I’m sure there are several reasons for this, including fear of being demonized like McCarthy was (clever of the commies to have set this up), and fear for their careers and lives.

After years of propaganda and indoctrination, we now have a young population who has listened to the communist lies, and has not learned the truth about what really happens under this type of tyranny. All they see is the promise of having what they want without having to work for it…but we know that this, too, is a big lie. Of course, they will be told that we must first rid society of those who are too old, too disabled, and who disagree. And, of course, how they must confiscate all land and property.

You are very right Kate8, fellow patriot. Just look at how our college campuses and public schools are today. Also, if you mention anything about religion, Christianity, or our Christian founding, they try to argue about our country having religious freedom (Which I do agree with), but freedom of religion is a God given right. Never to be taken away from the people ecept by God himself. Communism and socialism are very much against religion and tend to make meetings, praying, worship services, etc., illegal and sometimes punishable by death or imprisonment (Like they are doing to ministers in China and the Middle East.). They also preach this false belief of equality and freedom of choice nonsense. Though freedom of choice is written in the Constitution, they believe in a different definition of what that actually means. It actually is the doctrine of free will and the freedom to choose. Which means, “Do you believe in God and serve him yes or no?” They have this insane idea that people can do what they want, no matter what. Well, this is a lie. We have laws, moral, and ethics that dictate how we should do things in public and at home.

Today, in the name of “equality” and “political correctness” the basic liberty to love and worship God – the God of the Holy Bible – is being undermined. A vocal minority has undertaken a mission to rewrite history and force all Americans to live in a society without the God of our forefathers and without the freedoms that they acknowledged and declared God granted us.

http://www.keepgodinamerica.com

“If we ever forget that we are a nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

Ronald Reagan

There are many of these “individuals” on this site. One day they will wake up and find out they were wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Samurai – I just don’t understand how you can maintain that yours is the only true religion when there are others that are older and whose members claim the same thing? What of people in tribes who haven’t even been discovered yet? They are there in the South American jungle. Are they damned?

Wrong again Karolyn. I never said my faith or religion is the only one, but what I’ve said is true and cannot be disproven? I gave the sources I use, but I don’t know if it passed moderation.

http://www.wallbuilders.com
wwwkeepgodinamerica.com
wwwamericasfoundingfathers.wordpress.com
I also have many factual books at my disposal.

I purposely kept out some of the “.”, so as not to face moderation. I think you get the gist. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

P.S. Yes I have heard about finding tribes/people that live in the Amazon Rainforest. There are also missionaries that trek into these areas.

Karolyn – The very essence of faith is that one believes the truth of that in which he places that faith. If you believe that other beliefs are no better nor worse than yours, then that, I submit, is not really faith.

That being said, because one believes their faith is true, that doesn’t mean you still can’t accept that others believe differently, and respect their right to their own faith.

What it boils down to is that we all have the right to believe whatever we believe, and respect that others are accountable for their own beliefs, true or untrue.

Well said Kate8. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

There is no Conservative and no liberal. There are just words and slogans to keep us apart. It is spewed out to you and me by garbage such as this and then whatever side you have been force fed to believe in you will scream from. Step outside your box Americans we have real issues to deal with and they are not about Michel Moore or this clown above. Go to the source and a place we can all agree. Dismantling the Federal Reserve would be a good place to start. You’re not cows stop being led like one. The tea party movement was Co-opted. Interestingly enough it was started by someone demonstrating against Wall Street and the the bank bailouts. Stop with the name calling this is not a football game it is about looking at the structures that have been desinged to fail us and suck us dry and dismanteling them. The Fed would be a good place to start.

Yes our polititians and elected officials are merely Puppets!

Take the day off.

Listen up denniso, (ya dipstick) the Tea Party is all about returning to MORAL CONSTITUTIONAL VALUES…you know, the ones that would make liberal parasites responsible for themselves. That alone would kill half the corruption in this country and it’s only the beginning…
No wonder you commie rats are running scared. LOL

No one in the t-party wants anything to do with the U.S. Constitution.
It contains far too many guarantees of liberty, privacy, and religous freedom for your corporate owners.

Reply to F86…..Who do you believe does ascribe to the constitution and in what way?

Good question. Since it is a document that outlines the limits of power that the government has over the citizenry, it is obvious that few of our politicans, including the t-party caucus, subscribe to the letter or spirit of the U.S. Constitution. It is also obvious that some of our uber wealthy citizens feel they can buy their way around it. For those that can’t it is alternately withheld from them or used as a weapon against them. A shame, because they have also contributed their blood to keep this nation and it’s constitution strong

When the 40+% who don’t pay taxes, start paying their share, then they can raise taxes on the rich!

F86 – You need to stop listening to Obama and Pelosi.

A return to the Constitution in both spirit and law is exactly what the TeaParty folks want.

Just what is it they want that you would say such a thing? Lower taxes? You don’t think Americans pay enough?

Too much kool aid on a daily basis. Now be a good little boy/girl, take your paycheck, go home, and go play in the street. This sounds like your mentality. If we got back to the ways we were founded on the Constituion and our Christian founding, many of the libs we have now would be out of a job. I guess you want us to be a socialist state. This would mean the overturning of the welfare state, which has never been authorized by our Constitution. Are you currently receiving such payments?

“Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”

Thomas Sowell

I guess that you are not an intellectual. Get off of the rich stuff. Tax cuts for the rich, baaaaa! Same stuff, different day routine with you lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You have seemed to have drunk too much kool aid and really neeeeed to stop. The Tea Party (Taxed Enough Already) wants the government to lower taxes and get back to the ways we were founded by following the Constitution and by our Christian founding. Same stuff, different day with you lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Sorry for the 2 responses, byt my computer told me that I’ve already said that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Honest Question – when you refer to the U.S. Constitution – you mean the current one – including all the fraudulent changes that were not based on the informed consent of the governed? Both the 14th & 15th so-called ‘amendments’ were coerced upon the south in a state of martial law (one that actually continues to this day via ‘executive orders’ – it is more or less insideous than overt – but is getting more obvious lately) Both the 16th & 17th ‘amendments’ were asserted as ratified by those that knew that they were not- Bill Benson has been harassed for documenting his case having examined the halls of records for each state that was in the union at the time with a huge 10,000 pages or so of court certified documents.

Again, I do wish to actively evade the caustic demeanor of those that are so sure of the knowledge they feign that they cannot handle a contrarian view – and I do hope that what I have said above is in a respectful tone.

Have you examined the ORIGINAL 13th amendment that forbade foreign titles of nobility – such as ‘esquire’? [common among members of the British Accreditation Registry - which is called the BAR assn]

Even Ron Paul does not address this much more straightforward idea called REPUDIATION which does NOT require another constitutional amendment – merely a lawful recognition that if the ‘amendment’ was not properly ratified – it should be discarded as the pretext that it was all along.

We need to reinstate the ORGANIC Constitution which will require a transition to return to those that had property that was stolen under the color of law – not ‘wealth redistribution’ that takes from the upper middle class and expands the size and scope of government yet again. How to do this? Excellent question – but clearly step one is to have an honest discussion of the matter.

In response to samurai,

This site drives me nuts…

Quote”If we got back to the ways we were founded on the Constituion and our Christian founding”

Response: The USA was not founded as a Christian nation. We were founded by Christian men, under the principles of religious freedom. Religion was your own personal business, and had NO PLACE in government. Concepts of God however are not religion, therefore ok to put In God We Trust on the Money later on and so forth.
Are you getting it yet? I don’t want some Muslim becoming President someday and forcing all of us to convert to Islam. Get it? Religion has NO Place in government. Religion like morality, is personal. You cannot legislate morality any more than you can force someone to accept Jesus.
It has to come from within.
Are we in Kindergarten here?

Next one: ““Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”

Response: Robert Locke of Front Page Magazine describes in his article what is American Corporatism, as Corporatism being…socialism for the bourgeois. He goes on to state that Corporatism appeals to both the left and right wing.

What does this have to do with anything? We live under a political and economic system of Corporatism. That is a fact, we do not live under classic capitalism. And this is significant, because Corporatism is also known as soft Fascism. Corporatism is a form of Fascism.

I point this out because there is very little difference between Socialism and Fascism. The only real difference being who owns industry vs who owns the government. Industry effectively “Owning” our government means that our government works for “Them” they don’t work for you.

Key point…both parties support the status quo, both parties support this Corporatist/Fascist system of political and economics we live under.

Big success?

Quote: “baby killing, marxists”

Response: Totalitarianism is the enemy, be it hard left, or hard right.

It may appear to you, that I defend the left wing. Those suffering from a sort of political tunnel vision often feel that way, especially when they do not see me write glowing lines of support for them.
This is how children respond, and I do expect it.

My hope is that the light bulb will go on for at least some people, and they learn to step back, and see a larger picture.
It is not the Right I attack, or the Left I defend…It is narrow mindedness that I attack.

I think the very first step for your political redemption would be to stop supporting a party, either party, that does not share your values except at election time.
When you stop thinking like that, you will begin to see things through an unbiased eye. You will begin to understand why people support either left or right ideologies. You will begin to see both the good and the bad in conservatism and liberalism. And you will begin to restructure your thinking based on the best ideas from both ideologies rather than choking down a one size fits all belief system.

samurai says:
October 8, 2011 at 5:18 pm

Too much kool aid on a daily basis. Now be a good little boy/girl, take your paycheck, go home, and go play in the street. This sounds like your mentality. If we got back to the ways we were founded on the Constituion and our Christian founding, many of the libs we have now would be out of a job. I guess you want us to be a socialist state. This would mean the overturning of the welfare state, which has never been authorized by our Constitution. Are you currently receiving such payments?

“Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it.”

Thomas Sowell

I guess that you are not an intellectual. Get off of the rich stuff. Tax cuts for the rich, baaaaa! Same stuff, different day routine with you lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Side winder, I must agree with most of everything you said, but, sorry to say, we were founded a Christian nation.

“Now historians are discovering that the Bible, perhaps even more than the Constitution, is our founding document.”

Newsweek, December 27, 1982

“Those who are not ruled by God, will be ruled by tyrants.”

William Penn

If we are not a Christian nation, then why is God mentioned in the Declaration of Independence? Why are Jesus and references to God mentioned in the Constitution? Being a Christian nation does not mean that everyone goes to church, but western society as a whole, counting the USA, are based on Christian teachings and the Bible. Our founders used the Bible to set up our form of government, based our laws on the 10 Commandments, and based our Constitution on it. It seems that you have studied a lot, which is good, but you have seemed to miss the bulls eye on this one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

You are being insulting – and you do not get the point – both parties are run by the same plutocracy that is destroying our economy – Dennisco has a legitimate point – and you lack the humility and honesty to admit it!

The MT words of you TeoCons stand in judgment against you all per Ephesians 5:6 – I hear what you say and observe the contrast with what you TeoCons do in abject DISGUST. You TeoCons dismiss and deflect your MT words about ‘accountability’ and ‘responsibility’.

While I have not worked a W2 ‘job’ since 2007 – the callouses on my hands testify that I have not been idle – I take whatever work I can find – apply for jobs with whatever opportunities are there that I might even remotely fit – rarely do I hear back from anyone. I am among the 12%~+/- that are not counted as ‘unemployed’ because my UI benefits long ago depleted.

This nation is facing a comeuppance of one kind or another – either the criminal elite will be arrested and prosecuted for their wanton fraud – or we will face total economic meltdown. I do not know which. Will future generations look back at what you chose today in disgust [stay the course of delusion - buy into the lies as you already have] or inspiration [repent of the lies of the synagogue of Satan (Rev 2:9 & 3:9)and correct your Laodacian errors (Rev 3:14-22)? That choice is now yours! The Creator is watching – should you respond with any caustic ad homenum argument which is what I have come to expect from TeoCons – know this you were wrong before – you are wrong now.

The Tea Party started out well enough – but when Soetoro took the White House in typical reactionary error – the Tea Party became overtaken by NeoCons that hijacked it into the partisan mess that it has now disintigrated into – some are better – some are worse- God will judge each of us individually – but know this – should you persist in willful ignorance – per Ezekiel 33 YOU CANNOT SAY YOU WERE NOT WARNED – YOUR BLOOD IS ON YOUR OWN HEAD!!

Thank you Mark.
Well said.

You cannot legislate morality.

SW – You can’t legislate morality, but it can be legislated away to a large degree by outlawing all moral education.

Children must be trained in the ways you want them to go. If they don’t receive moral instruction or, rather, receive IMmoral instruction, we get what we have now.

I’m seeing a lot of over-privileged, sit-around-and-do nothing-at-their parent’s-expense brats who are reeling in a large group of slackers (who resemble in no small way my stepson, who quit high school when he was 14 and became an alcoholic by 15) that demand that the country (the symbol of their parents) provide them with a roof, unlimited food, and all the X-Box that they can play. Sure, our financial sector needs a spanking, but how about both sides of the political alley as well? Go shout Congress and the White House down-Wall St. can’t survive without their complicity. Them “gun-totin” tea party members, wow, I guess you’ve never been to the parts of America that I have been to, where not having a gun means you are someone else’s lunch! Your liberal mindset is stunting your growth-bad people are bad people, whether they are rich or poor, Republican or Democrat, and the sooner you open your eyes, the sooner you’ll be able to spot the bad apples without the media leading you by the piercing through your nose.

You are correct about bad people and about Wall St – D.C. connection.
Occupy D.C. is going on now
However I don’t see the same people you do. I see parents, grandparents, and kids, and workers and the unemployed, professors, firemen, union men and women, all sorts of people.
Oh by the way, liberals have 2nd amendment rights also.

Yea! A bunch of union bums and left-winged nuts!

Just make sure that the SEIU and their thugs aren’t there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Just make sure that the SEIU and their thugs are not present. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Y E S…………

It was blasted Dem., whogot US [the US involved in the 2nd worldwar. It was blasted Dem.,that got US [the United States involved iIn Korea. It was Blasted Dem., that got US.,[United States] in VetNam.It a Blasted Demj., That started the failded Bay Of Pigs Invasion into CUBA. No One Is Perfect Except OUR LORD “JESUS CHRIST. I am a Rep., I am sure glad the REPS.,DON’T HAVE A DONKEY AS OUR EMBLEM.

Why do right wingers seem to think that most left wingers are bums and kooks who don’t work and expect the rest of us to provide for them? Why does Fox News cherry pick the most outrageous fringe people it can find and present them as representing the main OWS group?

Here’s an interview done by Fox News at the OWS gathering that they didn’t show:

http://www.care2.com/causes/the-occupy-wall-street-protester-youll-never-see-on-fox-news-video.html

OWS is advocating for the middle class and their main purpose is to get big money out of politics because we all know that money coruupts. Which class are you advocating for? The middle class is what made America great. Without the middle class we are just another third world country – mostly just the rich and poor.

In my hometown, if you went through what they call “the hood” you would see that the ones receiving welfare, along with other unconstitutional programs, all vote DEM. What does this tell you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I guess you haven’t seen the videos of the protesters. They are not all that young. I’ve seen many grey heads in attendance. There are also those who join the marchers on their lunch hours. They had it in Charlotte today at BofA, so everybody could join in on their day off. Wish I could have gone. It’s too bad some people only see what they want to see.

What does this tell me samauri?
Very little other than you live in a run down crime ridden neighborhood.

You are living amongst the bottom of the barrel. A larger than average number of those people you describe, might be felons and cannot even vote. If not felons, then perhaps politically apathetic, unlike you.

There are 40 + million Americans now on food stamps. There is something very wrong with this country where our economic base has been so eroded by outsourcing that over 40 million people can no longer even afford to feed themselves.
You are kidding yourself if you think people are content to have to live like that.

Wrong answer Side Winder. My house is in a residential area outside of town. No hood here. I’ll agree with you that not all of them want to live like that, but many of the ones I know don’t care how they live or if we have to support them with our tax dollars. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Well denise. This is going to be ammo for you against….whatever. I am not pc and don’t give a damn about any party. I do give a damn about our Founding Documents. Now, here’s some advise from a God fearing, gun owning, Military respecting and veteran of same, heterosexual, white, male.(offensive words removed) –HOG

The government made the rules you idiot. Don’t forget to thank both parties, dems include.

Have you checked to see how many of these Wall St “fat cats” & bankers,
etc. actually made up a large percentage of high end contributors to the
Obama campaign? If it is the “rich” that you truly despise, than why do
you willingly align yourselves with one of the most despicable & nefarious amongst them–George Soros? How do you people sleep at night?

Where is their money going now? To the GOP. Soros? Nefarious? What a joke. The murderers row of the GOP make him seem like a pussycat.

Is 86 your IQ? Wall Street gave more money to Obamanation then any other candidate. He’s in their pocket numbnuts!

Lucy Leftest, red diaper doper baby alert!

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

did you not read the headlines on moneynews.com 6-8 wks back? ” Wall Streeters Top Obama Re-election Supporter” While Wall street gave Big $ in 08 to BO, in 2012 they’re estimating that to move up an additional 15% with the help of Goldman -Sachs this time around. Hee hee know what you vote for, or excuse me, if you have skin in the game you already know what you’re voting for.

Leftists can spout only mantras, not facts.

If they had to actually look at the facts their whole reason for being would fall apart.

Be carefull what you say about murderers moron. Remember that the biggest killers in the world were to the left of center. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

If your not smart enough to figure it out, don’t bother.
We’ll get it done in spite of you.

Michael

Are you serious??? You really need to wake up to what’s really going on. Some of those ditzy protesters are carrying signs stating that they fully support communism & socialism. Why do you think they’re doing that?? Because the current administration is sending their radicals to each and every “occupy” protest to “help” focus these wayward souls on what THEY (the paid minions & agitators) want. You honestly can’t see this??? I feel sorry for you especially if you still support the false leader in the our house!!

I have a suggestion for you. Stop smoking that meth. You’re having delusions

Neeeeed to take some of your own advice on this matter, you idiot. Maybe you should quit posting, since they contain no facts or sources. They only have lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and seek to create confusion amongst the ranks. They seem to be backfiring on you. Give it up and get a life. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Shibamon, I see it clear as day, it’s like the the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. backed by wall-street Communists. next we’ll see the Brown-shirts. they’ve already been infiltrated.

Well, denniso, Karl Marx or Vladimir Lenin is not the answer!

Hi Denniso

I agree with everything you say and your words are attacked by Al Sieber who tells you to “Take the day off” and JC “No wonder you commie rats are running scared.” Talk about delusional! If this is the state of American intellect you are in serious trouble!

This guy in the video has to be a shill for the corrupt bastards on Wall Street!

Is there any coincidence that the police are starting to violate First Amendment rights of OWS individuals when earlier this year, financial giant JPMorgan Chase & Co. donated $4.6 million to the New York Police Department (NYPD) to “strengthen security in the Big Apple”. Wake up America this is your future!

That is the last comment I make on this as I am ending my subscription. Good luck in your servitude!

NO you Wakeup sean and denniso, the OWS, is a front for commies Seiu and unions, its designed to confuse the issues and pull more people into your cause. Citizens only paying half-azzed attention, and coming in on a protest at mid-level or the tailend, will be drawn into your leftist lies and not really understanding why___believe me most on here know it!__Your nothing more than Agenda peddle pushers with a clear line on confusion!!__smoke this!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-exposing-occupy-wall-street-was-organized-from-day-one-by-seiu-acorn-front-the-working-family-party-and-how-they-all-tie-to-the-obama-administration-dnc-democratic-socialists-of-america/

Admittedly,there are those that are hijacking the popular discontent – or at least trying to do so – just as the “Arab Spring” was a Plutocratically manipulated occurrence. But to miss the root cause of the discontent – or ascribe it to fringe elements is missing something major. The Tea Party >>HAD<< a solid non-partisan message before it got hijacked – and there are many good people countering the NeoCon hypocrisy. I wish you were among them rather than dismissing their wisdom.

If you were saying that the Leftists are trying, with some success, to hijack this popular discontent – I would concur – however you appear to be dismissing the growing awakening that BOTH parties are corrupt – neither is going to solve anything by doing more of what got us into this mess.

Please pray about this – every time I see one of those "God Bless America" bumper stickers – I pray "God bless us with contrition – let us be heartbroken about our own sins – so that then, only then, we can as Christ commanded – go to our brother with the speck in his eye – to help him"

So long as you persist in dismissing the root cause of the popular discontent – dismiss the role of your own mistaken mentality of lumping people together – these mistakes will persist in your approach. By your fruit you will show the nature of your choice. Should you chose to persist in being caustic and simplistic – you have made the wrong choice. I say in jest – but not without a point – people like you make me want to take the beam in front of your eyes and pound you about the head & shoulders till you come to your senses. Of course the beam is figurative – and only you can lay hold of yours as only I can lay hold of mine. Point being, we must all be open to correction if we are to expect it of others.

Morality means being accountable to each other knowing that each of us will ultimately be accountable to the Creator. Moral cowardice is based on the fear of what will people here and now think if I speak out against what anyone with moral courage would know is wrong. Moral courage asks the question: when people look back generations in the future – will they look back with disgust or inspiration for the choice I made? That choice is yours – the Creator is watching.

Thank you Mark for that very astute post.

Hey Mark goggle “Albert Pike” and you’ll know what’s coming.

Hey Karolyn, what’s astute mean? that’s a good $4.00 word.

Mark, I’ve known both parties have been corrupt for years and you really don’t have much of a choice when you vote, it’s the same right left Bull $hit and does your vote really count? they make you think it does.

The blind leading the blind and they have both fallen into the ditch. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Wrong answer duhnniso. You always have to use hate, lies, rhetoric, and innuendo in your untrue postings? Freedom to assemble, bearing arms, and peaceful protest are God given rights. You know they are even written in the Constitution. Why didn’t you mention the brave patriots that have marched on Washington demanding that Obama bin Laden do something about the economy and jobs? Oh, I know why. Is it because that grossly overweight fool Michael Moore doesn’t support or sponsor it? I think so. This is about the low level of your mentality. Those protesters in Washington come from both sides of the isle and are representing every aspect of America by having different races, both genders, different religions, Tea Party members, independents, libs, conservatives, and even those who currently have jobs or attend some university. Neeeeed to get a life and go back home, where you belong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

denniso
You still don’t understand that the Tea Party members are true American’s who care for the future of the American way of life, while the protesters in the city are communist union trash that only have one goal, and that is the total end of capitalization and America.
I agree that Wall Street is to blame for many of the problems we now face, but it was the democrats and the Barney Franks that condoned the behavior of these extremely corrupt bankers, while the republicans were warning of the disaster to come.
Barney and company kept up the “give to the poor”, while raping the middle class, The democratic cult wanted every minority and illegal alien to own a house, even though they knew they could never afford it, but the bankers that got them elected made trillions and paid millions to the Franks and democrats.
What a beautiful world, where you can own a home with no income, no background check and no down payment. Only in America! This was all very well planned.
Well denniso, reality set in, and we the people now have to pay the price for your communist insanity.
You blame the true American’s for your sickness, but when the Tea Party have a protest, we never cause the damage that the communist do, and you will always blame the true American for doing wrong.
The media is behind you because the media is corrupt. The democrats are behind you because the democrats are corrupt.
Everything you stand for is corrupt!
If you look at the democratic cult, you will see that is is backed by all that is wrong with America.
denniso, you and your thoughts and fellow communist are the only problem we the people have to eliminate.
The games should start next year, and I hope the American’s can come together and put an end to this insanity we have dealt with for many decades now. Liberalism is communism, there is no gray area. This is going to be a black and white war.
Thank God we had our” guns tagging along” and didnt give them to your leaders!
God Bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

Republicans are doing their best to blame the Democrats for the economic recession we are going through, as if they had nothing to do with it. I find it ironic that the party that’s always telling people to take responsibility for what they do, never does.

It’s true that people from both sides of the aisle played some part in it but let’s not forget which party was in total charge of everything while this happened or the bills that a Republican congress sent to President Clinton that were veto proof.

Most people understand that the economic meltdown was the result of over zealous financiers who knew they were building a house of cards with subprime mortgages and derivatives but everybody was doing it and they were raking in too much money to stop. The fact is that government regulators under the Bush administration failed to do their jobs and in many cases the Dems went along.

In 1999, Phil Gramm, as chair of the Senate Banking Committee, pushed through a bill to dissolve the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act which prohibited banks, investment houses and insurance companies from combining into one corporation so that the crash of one of them would not bring down the other two. During congress’s Christmas break of 2000 he snuck a short provision into an 11,000-page appropriations bill that “derivatives” were not to be regulated or even monitored by the government. Many Democrats including Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and financial advisers Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers went along and benefitted.

On April 28, 2004, then SEC chairman Bill Donaldson presided over a little noticed SEC meeting in which the Big Five investment banks were granted exemption from a requirement that they keep a sizable amount of money on hand to cover potential loses thus allowing the banks to put more money into derivatives and to let the banks monitor the level of risk they were putting on investors and, ultimately, taxpayers.

In 2005 President Bush chose Chris Cox to succeed Bill Donaldson as SEC chair. Cox weakened the ability of the enforcement staff to investigate securities violations by Wall Street firms, much less prosecute them and eliminated an office that had been set up specifically to watch out for future problems with high risk investments.

Fed chairman Alan Greenspan fought through four presidencies to prevent even the meekest oversight by the Fed or any other agency. So the bubble kept expanding.

In Bush’s bailing out of the banks, Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Paulson, saw to it that his Wall Street buddies, the same people who caused the crash, received taxpayer funds to bail them out without taxpayer input as to how the money would be spent.

And let’s not forget that The Republicans repealed Clinton’s 1997 Balanced Budget Act in 2001 so the GOP could could enact the George W. Bush tax cuts. The debt increased $5.2 trillion under Bush, at 8.5 percent a year.

In 1993, President Clinton signed the Deficit Reduction Act without a single GOP vote. The debt increased only 3.9% per year and in fical 2000 there was a $237 billion surplus.

Oh, and Ronald Reagan increased the debt an average of 14.4 percent per year for eight years. He and President George H.W. Bush quadrupled the debt. Bush recognized the problem and increased taxes leading to the prosperity of the 1990s

Same old lib lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

Talkinabout…good post! And thanks for the info. You also know as I do,that the rightwingers could care less about facts and the truth of history. Only they know the absolute truth!

How could I have missed Void’s vitriolic rant? What a lovely,harmonious,Christian,deep, and thoughtful comment! Wow!!!I would guess that he is another Christian gunslinger,right?

Wrong answer talkingabout. The budget surplus was all lie and it was a figure that was made up out of thin air. Sheesh duhnisso, do you always have to lie on this site? The surplus was a fraud, so is about everything dealing with libs and their ilk. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

If you hadn’t noticed, there are many non English speaking people involved in these protests who do not even know what they are protesting, but they do know they are being paid muy pesos to be there. But Pelosi calls them “REAL” grassroots, not astro turf. Can anyone spell “DUPLICITOUS”?

Actually, there is quite a cross-section of people involved in the movement. And, actually, I haven’t nolticed any latin-Americans; but I have seen all ages and races represented. This is about PEOPLE of all backgrounds. I don’t know why you naysayers are against people standing up and doing something. If I could have made it to Charlotte yesterday I would have. I don’t see you doing anything.

I don’t see you doing anything either but sitting on your backside behind your computer. Sook Young went to Washington, D.C. to join the protesters there and is expected to return on Wednesday. I hope they show her on TV. If she can go to Washington and protest against the current policies of Obama bin Laden and against how he is handling the economy, why can’t you do that? Are you too busy? I couldn’t get time off from my job, so I couldn’t go. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

So you would have Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice in front of a firing squad?

F86 – Yes. All of them.

Haven’t you figured out yet that the L/R thing is a ruse? They are nothing but two heads of the same beast. It was meant to keep us busy fighting amongst our selves, thinking we had choices, while they went about doing what they were intent on doing all along…creating a NWO.

I’ll second that!!!!

I have sent a letter demanding the evidence that Bin Laden carried out 9/11 to my congress criminal – I will call him Congressman TYPICAL as his name is irrelevant – that letter was lawfully delivered on 6 April 2011 – to date there has been ZERO disclosure of evidence – that letter is available by e-mailing markanabaptist [at] ATT [dot] net

We were promised clear convincing proof of UBL’s culpability right after 9/11 – not one shred of actual evidence has YET to be produced – merely TRIAL BY MEDIA.

“If tyranny & oppression ever come to this land – it will come in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy” James Madison Would you call me a ‘liberal’ because I believe in liberty? Or are you among those that realize that slapping a misleading label on something is not an intellectually honest way of deflecting a legitimate concern.

I have examined massive amounts of evidence about 9/11 – I have yet to see anything that bears the weight of scrutiny that the official, government sponsored media approved conspiracy theory.

Given that UBL was merely a patsy – yes, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et al should all be put on trial for TREASON. If found guilty they should hand publicaly in keeping with the 4 times repeated words in Duetoronomy “When the people see this [capital punishment] they will not to do such things [TREASON in this case]”

I would not want to cheat these traitors of due process – and show the world and God Himself that America has finally come to its senses.

Mark – Trying to read your posts is like reading something from two centuries ago. Is this an affectation of superior intellect?

Nevertheless, my point to be made here is that it will do little good to put Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al on trial for 9/ll (and more) when they are merely puppets. It’s like going after a street drug dealer and ignoring the cabal.

The ones who need to be brought down are the world elite bankers and the MIC. The ones who really contol everything: build economies and collapse them, destroy governments, plan wars, and use the media to control the mass mindset…

We are standing on the brink of a world in which few would want to live, if the bankers get their way. They envision a world where the common man is enslaved to them, with no freedom at all. Total control. And the plans they have to get us there are horrifying.

It’s blatantly obvious that the protests going on now have been planned for a long time, and Soros has his fingerprints all over them. Yet so many just don’t see it, and think they are really of the people. People are so easily led and deceived.

Then we should put Obama bin Laden and others on trial for treason also. It must go both ways. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

I know exactly what you’re talking about Kate.

Al – They’ve been telling us for a long time that “civil unrest” was coming to America. This has been engineered all the way. The plan, at least in part, was to organize protests, and then be “forced” to bring in the military to quell the “riots”. This will require new precedent, new laws, and loss of freedoms.

The elites use us as pawns, and we bite on every trigger. It’s disheartening to see just how clueless we are. They tell us what’s coming, and we carry it out too a tee.

This pretty much spells it out as I see it:

http://dprogram.net/2011/10/07/civil-unrest-military-force-fema-camps-next/
This pretty much tells it as I see it.