Bob I like your style, I wish I could be that calm.

I agree that the most dangerous organization in the US is the subversive ACLU.. Founded by a communist and run by the communists,
and there’s only one thing the communists want, the demise of our
Republic.

Brian, are you a communist? Because in my 87 yrs. I haven’ seen a communist organization like the ACLU, (a misnomer) ever do anything
that didn’t benefit the communists in some way. So the one you call
a fool.. I call a Patriot, and I’d take him to watch my back in combat anytime.

Thank You David

There are people who should open their eyes… and it’s not the Kentucky Colonel. Check out the ACLU on the internet.. You’ll love them if you’re a communist or an atheist.

Joe H. My sentiment exactly, No one knows if this Kenyan is even legal
with his sealed records.. Patriotism means to stand by the country. It
does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official
save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country.
Theodore Roosevelt.. This Illegal has done more damage to our nation without firing a shot… than any foreign enemy could have done
in that time. my opinion.

Dear Robert Smith,

There is a huge difference between a state-sponsored assassination and one carried out by a lone nut. You are lost in a left/right paradigm that we do not subscribe to here.

Best wishes,
Bob

From Bob Livinston: “There is a huge difference between a state-sponsored assassination and one carried out by a lone nut.”

Ain’t a “loan nut.” In fact Dr. Gunn’s estate sued because although Griffin originally claimed to be acting “for God” (a much bigger organization than any nation… Just ask some christians). His attorneys would later assert on his behalf that he had been brainwashed by another anti-abortion activist, John Burt.

John Burt was successfully sued by the Gunn estate for his part in the death of Dr. Gunn.

So, are religions as powerful as nations? Some seem to think they are and they don’t have any due process. WEll… There is the Maleious Malificarum. How’s that for due process?

Rob

Dear Robert Smith,

You are comparing apples to macadamia nuts.

Plus, you cannot the pin the actions of a handful of insane people on an entire religion. I can assure you that no sane, practicing Christian endorses the murder of an abortion doctor any more than they endorse abortion.

Best wishes,
Bob

Robert Smith,

You have missed the point completely. This thread is about Federal government assassinations, violations of the United States Constitution and NOT the actions of individual citizens with religious issues. Although, I am completely against abortion because it is murder. But I digress.

I invite you to study the United States Constitution and The Federalist (Federalist Papers). In case you didn’t know, The Federalist is comprised of 85 Pamphlets which explain the need for ratification of the United States Constitution. We had defects in the Articles of Confederation as I’m sure you are aware.

Have a nice day.

Don’t forget the Anti-Federalist papers

Federalist says: ” This thread is about Federal government assassinations, violations of the United States Constitution and NOT the actions of individual citizens with religious issues.”

MOF, the dead guy proclaimed WAR against America. That makes him an enemy combatant and fair game.

Rob

Robert Smith,
You openly stand against the United States Constitution. Your thinking is convoluted at best. No doubt you have learned how to think by the EXTREME LEFT. Your thinking leads to blood lust and WROL.

United States Constitution:

Article 3, Section 3, Clause 1, Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Article 3, Section 3, Clause 2, The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

I would also add that Congress has not formally declared war on Islam or any muslim country. We are not technically “at war”, but doing “police actions”. Without the formal declaration of war by the law of the Constitution, Congress is engaging in an unlawful police action and not subject to laws regarding war that THE PEOPLE have established. Remember, the federal government was formed “by WE THE PEOPLE”. The president, Congress and Supreme Court are only allowed the powers that are given to them by the people as outlined in the Constitution, especially Congress, in Article 1, Sec. 8.

Last time I read or heard, the Constitution is still part of supreme law of the land, unless the states and the people vote otherwise.

What did the woman at Ruby Ridge do to be murdered by a government sniper, while she was holding her baby in her arms…. What did the
women and children do against the government in Waco, to be burnt alive.. When the government can ignore the Constitution, and break the law… aren’t they the outlaws ? Evidently they can do anything and murder any one they claim is a terrorist, because our Constitution is
just a piece of toilet tissue, and it’s null and void..

What if they thought that they should nuke America? Don’t allow your fear and ignorance to drive your mind under the sand.

ted,
Hate to burst your bubble, but if you are talking about JFK, he was one of the ones that got us involved in Nam and guaranteed them our protection!!

Wall street is the problem. Attention needs to be focused on that.

Getting wealth by moving money around isn’t capitalism. It’s stealing or at best gambling with our money. Neither should be legal.

Rob

Those Wall Street protestors are Obama supporters – why would he mow them down? They’re doing his bidding.

The problem with arresting Wall Street protesters (about 1000 now)is that the real criminals who wrecked our economy are still inside exploiting us and our markets. No handcuffs for them.

Randy, how are wall street protesters obama supporters? I think they are people who are waking up to the realization that the game is rigged, and that, not in their favour!

SMSSgt Z,
don’t forget martial law!!!! Remember, martial law, no elections!!! He’s slip sliding away in the polls!!!

I heard that too Joe.

Dear Robert Smith,

You write: “Although there is a great deal of sympathy for simply x-ing out a bad guy there are rules.”

Do those rules also apply to the President? Apparently not anymore.

Best wishes,
Bob

Bob asks: “Do those rules also apply to the President?”

Although there is a great deal of sentiment that a President should not do this or that I’m curious…

Is there a specific rule that was violted? Those yahoos declared war on US. What’s the problem with shooting back?

Rob

In answer to your question, he violated the 5th Amendment of the Constitution…our “Rule of Law.”

How do you know that Al Awaki ‘fired’ on the US…did you see proof of that at his trial? Oops…nevermind.

But hey, thanks for giving away our ‘innocent until PROVEN guilty’ concept of liberty. I’m sure it’s a small price to pay for “safety.”

Ron Paul 2012

Dear Robert Smith,

How about Amendments 5, 6, 8 and 14 for starters? The precedent has now been set that the President can order the assassination of anyone critical of US foreign policy. If that doesn’t frighten you then you are a fool.

Best wishes,
Bob

You’re right there Bob, it could be anyone of us also.

Do those rules apply to the president….come on! We are not idiots! What general, what Kernel, what Major, What soldier, when confronted with a known terrorist, is bound to present him for trial? If a long range US military sniper had of found this guy in his sights and clicked one off for the greater good of Allah, who claims that this jerk had the right of a trial as a citizen. This guy professed himself to be a terrorist, and thus an armed enemy of the US. Plain and simple, smear Obama enthusiasts or not!

Those who spoke out against our war in the 60′s were rounded up and sometimes shot at. No one should fear speaking out against bad government policies so Bob L is usually correct on this issue. Bob understands the slippery slope when governments interfere with the affairs of other governments and what it leads to. No one is going to miss al Awlaki including myself but who will it be next time.

I think to relinquish “due process” is fool-hardy at best, and if we do, we are in essence embracing a dictatorship. The notion that one individual should decide the fate of any man, is the can of worms that we shouldn’t hasten to open! This man, O, needs to be locked up, if for no other reason but for public safety! The man is a menace!

Bob Livingston, Awlaki was a DUAL Yemeni/US citizen. Does this Duality give him double rights? Or for that manner, can having DUAL citizenship produce a single or double liability?

It looks like to me that the American response was against a Yemeni Citizen, living in Yemeni conclaves, one of which was his tribal hometown. This particular Yemeni Citizen, having spied out HIS enemy and learned their ways, safely in his Yemeni home, waged war against America using his skills. When America targeted and killed this Yemeni citizen, they as colateral damage killed the US CITIZEN Awlaki, as well as the United States Citizen Khan, another colateral victim.

I am a true natural born Citizen blooded to the land with Cherokee blood along with my Irish foreign ancestry. I do not plan to go to another country because I have none, other than here. If I am to be classed as a “terrorist” here, and I am standing my ground here, perhaps defending my home, I would expect that Obama has no other way but to bring me to trial, and if I were to hold my ground with a weapon, perhaps hold a hostage, then they would take me down by some SWAT team. Because I have not been playing games like Obama has with his birth details, I would THEN expect all of you folk to get all over him were he to “assasinate” me without just cause.

Dear Stephen,

If your blood is that of the Cherokee nation, you more than most should understand the danger of the cliff Obama just leaped from. (An offense this egregious cannot be termed a slippery slope.)

You write: “This particular Yemeni Citizen, having spied out HIS enemy and learned their ways, safely in his Yemeni home, waged war against America using his skills.”

What evidence, beyond the word of the government, do you possess that this is so? Regardless of where he lived, he was still an American, and the 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th Amendments guarantee certain rights to him as such.

Best wishes,
Bob

Al….Barry has overstepped his authority so many times since taking office that no one should be surprised at what he might do. Maybe citizenship should have been stripped from Al-Awlaki. He would be evil with it or without it. Other countries are much more severe in their punishments than the United States. I am sure that him and his followers were more than a little surprised when the drones came sweeping in. They were probably counting on a ‘fair trial’….

I know Robin, but that doesn’t it right. so, what’s next?

Doesn’t make it right? In what way? They targeted a known terrorist and the other got blown up as an accessory to the crimes. What’s the big deal. Now everyone wants to make it a special issue of killing an “American” without a trial. So blindly ignorant of our current reality of the world. People quote Constitutional amendments as if the are actually presenting an intelligent argument. There’s no room for argument. If hypothetically, we had an armed special forces unit sitting outside the kill zone and had this guy in their sites, you think they should have radio checked for a warrant to arrest this traitor?

You sicken me and the people who offer their lives in this war on terror. Go ahead and shame us as a weaker moronic belligerent people, just as the Extreme Islamic Jihadists claim us to be. You prove their point. You dishonor every grave dug for our troops making their final trip home. You use this crap for political ploys and it shames me that you call yourselves Americans. I want no part of your version of America. We are truly weak, worthless infidels.

Hey Drew, kiss my sister’s a$$, you unconstitutional jerk, you wanna debate the issue? go for it you troll. read the constitution, any time, any where pal.

And Drew, my granddaughter is over there fighting for I don’t what. anytime pal.

Lets debate it drew ?

You don’t have a pair do you drew?

Handyman,You could say the exact same thing about the father and son Bush Presidencies, except maybe changing two words to Christian Nazi’s. So don’t let your head explode with your comical nonsense.

The bush family and the obama’s are two wing of the same ugly bird. Of course, one is left-wing, the other the right-wing, and together, they work to get the bird to the mutually agreed upon, destination! I thought that was rather obvious.

Jay,
Darn you! There you went and ruined eddie’s arguement!!!

Sure didn’t Joe not in the least.

Ok you two so I say lets take Bush, cheney, and Rumsfield to trial for killing american soldiers in Irag in an unjust war, while at the same time letting Bin Ladin off the hook in Tora Bora actions that prlonged the mission. Then we turn or eyes on the so called crimes of this president for killing an avowed terroist who had and was planing to kill fellow Americans. I will take the chance of this president being right and even give him a pass on this one compared to the WMD lie told to the American people.

DaveH,
I think you should have said self defense or the defense of others. Say, for instance, if I was in a restaurant and was armed. While sitting there, I see a man draw a bead on a child with a gun. I guarantee you I would pull, aim and fire in a heartbeat!

I approve, Joe. But in that situation, you know personally what the score is, unlike the second-hand information we get spoon-fed by our sociopathic leaders.

And you would be tried in a court of law for your actions (hopefully exonerated), as it should be.

brad the SLIMEBALL renounced and forfeited his citisenship the moment he took up arms against the united States. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE PEOPLE,

Vagabond,

I totaly agree but, were they tried for treason, acts against the US in general, did they renounce their citizenship or did the US take their citizenship?

The right thing done the wrong way, to confuse. Tis a slippery slope opening the way to kill more Americans.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Ditto Freedom Fighter.

Agreed Freedom Fighter.

To Vagabond and others: The Constitution has specific laws for the trying of a person for “treason”. Even those who take up arms against the US are allowed due process. Abraham Lincoln himself committed treason when he sent in troops to Virginia to fire on American citizens and started a war where over 625,000 people died. The blood was on his hands, and he suffered the consequences of his actions, because the federal government wasn’t going to impeach him and try him for treason. Even the Bible states under God’s Law where the Founding Fathers took their example, “do not oppress the stranger that is in thy land.” The other point is that Congress has not formally declared war on Islam or any country where Islam is practiced, therefore, al-Awlaki cannot be considered a war combatant or as committing an act of war. But even in times of war, men/women were given trials. Now that does not mean I am sympathetic toward the believes of Islam or their practices, however, we MUST be “fair and just” and be an example to the rest of the world that we can be “fair and just”. There’s good reason why Thomas Jefferson had the Treaty of Tripoli drawn up.

I agree with Ron Paul on this one.He did not have a trial. What does the evidence show. Some of it is political propaganda to build Obama up to show that he is doing something about terrorists.

Tell it to the 6k+ people who died in the twin towers ten years ago. Islam has declared war on us. That’s what Jihad means, you moron. As Ben said, we kill them because they are planning to kill us.
Don’t tell me that if some guy had plans in his basement to kill your family and you knew about these plans and also had a bead on him and could easily take him out, ending your cause for fear, that you would instead try to take him into custody and take him to trial. You know as well as we all do that these little rag-head SOBs glory in the chance to go to court so they can spout more jihadist rhetoric and possibly become living martyrs for their cause.
The only way to seriously deter their kind of thinking is by harsh example. (i.e.: They plan the deaths of others and receive death as a consequence.) Coincidentally, all crimes committed should be dealt with swiftly and harshly so as to deter others from considering crime as a viable option. Read the book Starship Troopers for a clue on where our society is going if it survives the coming economic troubles and Obama’s presidency and fails to deal more effectively with criminal acts.
Due process? I think AL-Ewok got his due process…but even if you don’t think so, you can’t deny that he got what was due to him.

Kimlerly, Saddly we have not followed the Constitution in over 150 years so your post as well thought out as it is is 100% worthless.

PLEASE ` All of you will you please wake up, read the 14th Amendment and how it came to be, do your Research aka Due Diligance and you will have no other way of looking at this nation again.
All of the problems we face today all stem from the 14th Amendment. So no matter what goes on, or who you vote for it makes no differance at all.
Therefor we must “”REPEAL the 14th Amendment”" then all said Amendments after that will fall on their own, and we all will gain our “FREEDOMS” back, and the NWO will fold like a cheep table from Wall Mart.

If you all wish to keep playing in the “Political Theater” thats been playing out for the last 150 years — then events such as this will keep happeneing over and over, until its “YOU” that’s the TARGET.

So will you ALL wake up already.

@Forrest Gump (and as his name implies, “stupid is as stupid does”.) I’m glad you’re not in a government office and I hope you don’t vote, because that would be dangerous. We have the rule of law for a reason, and if you don’t want to follow the rule of law, that makes you an “anarchist”. And by you’re thinking, it sounds like you are perfectly happy with the “imposter in chief dictator” who’s ordering unfettered assassinations.

We’ve been doing things the “stupid way” for over 100 years because our leaders chose to abandon the principles of the Constitution. Look where that has gotten us. Is America better off than it was over a 100 years ago? NOPE! And why? Our leaders have brought down on us the fruits of their stupidity. You reap what you sow. For every action, there is an equal or opposite reaction. When you do things right, you receive blessings from it. When you do things wrong you reap despair and even death. Common sense, or at least it should be.

@Bruce See my reply to Iris. The reason our government isn’t following the Constitution now is because of WE THE PEOPLE, who were asleep on the job. Since WE THE PEOPLE put these yahoos in office, WE THE PEOPLE, are responsible to wake up and remove them. To step back and say “now it’s useless” is “giving up”. You might as well just lay down and die right now, because you believe there’s nothing left or no hope.

The 14th Amendment was written regarding slavery and making sure that the freed slaves were treated as citizens. It was for that purpose and that purpose alone. It accompanies the 13th Amendment. Now Congress and others are trying to rewrite it and use it for another purpose.

The problem is WE THE PEOPLE have been brainwashed and dumbed down by the public screwel system, the news media, movies and entertainment. Now it’s up to us to get smart again, and deprogram ourselves.

Congress is a cross section of the people who put them there. So what does that say about THE PEOPLE? People are destroyed for lack of knowledge. But as history shows with the Great Reformation and the American Revolution, when you reverse ignorance, great things happen.

So don’t be so quick to give up. There are many people waking up now, but it will take a whole lot of time and patience on our part. However, this plays out, it is not the “End of America” as we know it.

@Bruce
You said “All of the problems we face today all stem from the 14th Amendment. So no matter what goes on, or who you vote for it makes no differance at all.”

I see several issues with what you present. First, the problems we face go back much further and Alexander Hamilton stated the problem sufficiently in Federalist No. 84. “I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights.” The point being we have always elected “men disposed to usurp”. We keep in mind that Hamilton is talking about what will be the Bill of Rights, amendments 1 – 10.

The next point is the difference between Bill of Rights and Amendments 11 – 27. We look for the following. “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” We can easily see the difference between “limit of power” and “expansion of power”. You say we must repeal the 14th amendment? I say we have many amendments to repeal and they all involve expansion of Federal power.

An education in the United States Constitution and The Federalist is required. Almost none of the people we elect know anything of either. Why? Because American citizens don’t understand the subjects either. So they elect the wrong people.

Our Founding Fathers told us this was a life long fight. We fight darkness in high places.

Kimberly,
Study your science a little more. that would be equal AND opposite reaction!! The way you state it is not only wrong, it is impossible!!

@Joe H. LOL! Yeah, yeah, you’re talking about Newton’s 3rd law, and I have studied the sciences and physics. So I type fast from memory, and proofing my own writing often doesn’t work. So what? You’re picking nits because you have nothing of value to contribute to these threads. I noticed you knew exactly what I was talking about, though. But how about sticking to the topic at hand, or go away. It’s easy to pop in with snarky comments, but not so easy to give an intelligent, well thought-out response.

Be sensible, folks. The man had proven he was a threat to our very lives. It was HE who gave up any right to citizenship.

Thank God we are a bit safer now.

Iris wrote: Be sensible, folks. The man had proven he was a threat to our very lives. It was HE who gave up any right to citizenship.

Thank God we are a bit safer now.

Iris, we are not “safer now”. We are in more danger than we’ve ever been. YOU are now a target of the federal government anytime they choose. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge? The federal government will kill you and not think twice about it. You are dispensable to them. The Clinton Administration murdered women and children at Waco. Burned them to death and tried to cover it up! For God sake, wake up!

When you use the word “proven” be careful. You get your information from the news media. Doesn’t matter which, but you trust the information you’re given is the truth. I have learned only believe half of what you see, and none of what you’ve heard.

Al-Alwaki did not renounce his American citizenship. He retained “dual citizenship”. Our God, whom you thank, would not approve of such a thing. The five books of the Law are testimony to how “the stranger is to be treated in thy land”, especially if he comes to seek refuge.

The Founding Fathers believed in “One Law, One Land.” They also followed “The Law of Nations”—those laws which fall under “common law”, that nations agree not to violate against each other, and “assassination” is one of them.

If we are to be “beacon” to the world, we MUST be “fair and just” and follow the rule of law. Otherwise what kind of example are we to the rest of the world? Shall we be the “brutes” that the Romans were?

Or do we go the way of Jacob’s sons, when they disobeyed Jacob in killing the young man to got their sister pregnant? And Jacob shouted, “YOU MAKETH MY NAME TO STINK!”

This imposter president has MADE THE NAME OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO STINK! It’s time we all come together on this!

Please, please Iris, We don’t want you to reproduce, for we have enough IDIOTS already!!!

If that is true then there is no way one can commit treason since you have to be a citizen to be charged with treason.

So Ben Crystal thinks it’s okay for the President to assassinate anybody he doesn’t like? He says “Al-Awlaki exhorted his followers to kill what he calls “infidels”. If that’s good enough reason to kill somebody from afar with no trial whatsoever (because the Government says so), then obviously Ben’s comment condoning the hit gives those left-wingers plenty of reason to Drone the Crystal household.
Why don’t we just throw out the Constitution and Reason, and just have a Free for All, Obama’s and Ben’s style? We all just kill whoever we think needs it. We don’t need no damn trial. It’s just a waste of taxpayer payer money having them useless trials.
How do you “terrorist” right-wingers think you’re going to fare under the new rules? How many of you have condoned killing those “terrorist” Islamics? Sounds like good enough reason to me to end your lives (at least if you think like Ben and Obama).
Uh-oh, I think a hear a buzzing sound in the distance. Got to go.

Anyone on the right or left that thinks these terrorists should be given “due process” in an American courtroom just simply have no sense of self preservation. In war, there is no due process. One kills the enemy in as large numbers possible and in any possible way. The purpose of war is to eliminate enemies before they eliminate you. Now that’s not hard to understand is it?

Can you not simply make the distinction between some reprobate marching in the streets and causing havoc, and a dedicated enemy who is determined to kill you? If not, you are a moron and subject to Darwin’s law.

And all you living room attorneys who try to spin the Constitution to include the rights of criminals and despots need to go back to your day job, cause you ain’t makin’ it as a legal expert.

What about the US using depleted uranium in the Iraq war? Was this right?
Does the end justify the means. We did not and do not belong in the Middle East. If we would have stayed out of it we would not be having all this trouble.

Speaking of Morons, Speedle. With your way of thinking we don’t need courts. We’ll just let Government do as they damn well please. They pretty much do that anyway these days thanks to nimrods like yourself:
http://mises.org/daily/5693/The-Police-State-Abolishes-the-Trial

I mean if the Government calls somebody a “terrorist”, they must be, just ask Janet Napolitano.

DAveH,

If you re-read the article you will see in the second paragraph Ben didn’t accept Ohmamas killing Al-Awlaki and his buddy.

Brad, you need to learn to read.

“Let me be clear: I oppose virtually everything Obama planned to do, has done and/or will do during his four years in the White House. But the executions of al-Awlaki and Khan are not on the list.”

@ Brian: “We shouldn’t be in the business of whacking people like we were in Tony Soprano’s gang and our victims were wearing wires in the back room at Satriale’s. But occasionally, the role America should play and the role America must play are not the same role.”

http://www.hookedonphonics.com/

Ben is playing good cop bad cop so he can cover all of his bases.

UH Dave H, you might have forgotten that us “right-wingers” have all the guns and cling to our Bibles, don’t start that fight with words or guns. Even though I agree with most of what you said that this action crosses over into very dangerous territory, it was ordered by a career politician in the White House, grasping for straws to satisfy somebody in his feeble attempt to show strentgh and ride the wave to re-election! Right wingers did not order this “assination”, we just glad the man is gone. We can debate the rightness of it without blaming left or right. Let’s be Americans again and protect our freedoms.

Glade you need to reread my comment. I was referring to the fact that those on the left refer to right wingers as “terrorists”. You know, like in the Janet Napolitano memo?

This ass was sitting next to a known terrorist when he died, whom he agreed with, worshiped almost like an idol, helped conceal as an enemy of the US, and correlated known hazardously lethal information in his efforts. He was a citizen? Spies can be put to death outside US boundaries without a trial. CIA does it legally all the time… nuff said! End of argument.

On Friday, an American drone strike in Yemen killed U.S.-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, a key al-Qaida figure, and Samir Khan, a Pakistani-American who produced the terror group’s English-language Web magazine, Inspire.

Obama wants these people killed instead of captured, for fear of what might be exposed about his ties with radical Muslims. He also would have to make a decision about where to imprison them, which would present a problem for him and AG Weasel Holder.

Former president Bush invaded a country under false pretenses, and cost the lives of American soldiers. It matters not that this president is a democrat if he were republican I would feel the same way about this matter. You act against the United States citizen or not, you suffer the consequences. If Bush and Cheney had done this Benny boy would have no problem and would be calling anyone including you who did not agree un-American. Wake up and smell the bias.

What would that make our acting pres?

Al Capone’s successor… (i.e.: just another Chicago mobster…)

Would that same scenario play out for G Bush in the killing of Saddam. Even though he had a trial(and good riddance to him too)maybe George was also trying to cover something up also.(that is your way of thinking with Obama). Another thing a few of you have said Obama is pro Muslim and won’t defend America against Muslim insurgents which is another line of doo doo. It’s not hard to come up with fanciful mud slinging without an once of evidence. The bottom line is that he doesn’t hate America and he doesn’t hate Muslims but he does see who is harming us.

“Would that same scenario play out for G Bush in the killing of Saddam. Even though he had a trial(and good riddance to him too)…..”

Saddam was tried by the citizens of Iraq not George Bush. You can argue all day over what if any influence the US had on the outcome but the trial was by Iraq NOT the US.

Of course G. bush was trying to cover something up by taking out saddam. Its no secret that georgie and saddam did business together. I think at some point old saddam told georgie to go fly a kite, and well… we all know what happened after that!

Handyman they may have revealed the oil and wepons contracts they have with Halliberton and the Cheney family. You sound so un American.

Asinine

I cannot believe the abundance of fools out there in the American public who would grasp this campaign banner and willingly start waving it around, with no intelligence at all. Nothing against any commenter here, of course. Yet out there, out in the general public, is there really such an abundance of idiots who fail to see the stupidity in claiming this guy had rights as a US citizen?

Everyone keeps talking about treason. Everyone keeps lying to the American people about this guy’s :rights:.

Answer me one:

Who said the order was put out to kill the guy for “treason”? Did I miss something?

This guy was a terrorist plain and simple, whether he hid behind journalism or not. A terrorist is an enemy of the United States of America. He held secret the will and makings of many actions that the terrorist organization held, not in a truer sense of journalistic privilege, but in total support of their actions, and even led recruiting campaigns. That is an enemy of the US. By his own actions, by his own description, he was an enemy of us, the people. Even if a person is a citizen of, or once was a citizen of the US of A, it does not preclude their being labeled and titled an enemy of the US by their own actions. If this fool was on US soil, it might be another matter. But being on foreign soil, being that they were active as an enemy and present with the enemy, their rights as a citizen were circumvented.

For us to try to deceitfully use a foundation and basis of false claims and deceit, it makes us look stupid as a people, plain and simple. That makes us as lethally potent as any enemy of the US. I have often said that the threat from within our borders is as dangerous as the threat from without those same borders, and some folks prove that point to a tee.

Just because Ron Paul grasps the chance to smear Obama on this, you tout your anti-Obama flags and brandish them like banners. Yes, that’s right. You are not using your freedom of speech; you are abusing that freedom to support propaganda!

If someone stands on the other opposing side of the battlefield and fires rounds at our troops, and he is shot down like the dog that he is, he is rightfully put to death for his actions. This traitor was a closely held utility and tool of AlQaeda. But fools will paint a picture of it as an abuse of this guy’s rights as a citizen of the US!?

To use anything to merely spout off some more anti-Obama trash, it paints people ever so brightly, and shows just how far from the truth they will go to attain their goals. For Ron Paul to use this as a campaign tool, he is a fool also and rightfully called so. This is the moron you think needs elected?

This TERRORIST had no rights to citizenry. He gave up those rights when he traitorously went to the other side. He was nothing other than the scum and trash that declare a Jihad against our nation. For you to grasp the situation as Ron Paul did, makes you just as guilty! To those outside this group of course, if my saying so pisses you off, all I can say is “I hope the hell it does!” You should be ashamed to call yourselves Americans. Go stand by our troops as they return home and shout out the claim that we murdered a US citizen on foreign soil, and abused his RIGHTS. I dare you.

Any and all objective viewpoints Ron Paul may have made in my book just went out the window, and a traitor label stuck on his skeletal skinny behind. Ask any soldier out there right now, if they support Ron Paul’s critique of that action of shoving a missile down a traitor’s throat, and see what their opinion is.

Have the Gallop do a poll among US soldiers and see where Ron Paul stands beside Obama on that one! It was under Obama’s admin that we got Osama Bin, and now we have targeted an AlQaeda leader and got a traitor as a bonus! Obama is the commander in chief folks; he gets to tout his own personal victory flag. Under both Bushes, they failed to rally their war powers to catch Osama. Under Obama’s administration, and his policy to put those same powers into high gear to catch Osama, he was successful. Luck or not, his administration got the grand prize.

That’s it in a nut shell. You out there, sling your “slash and burn” verbalization of Obama now. He’s a shiny angel compared to you. I call it “slash and burn” because you are ready to burn anyone at the proverbial stake as long as it fits your protocols for supporting your unworthy candidates, no matter how much it leaves our countryside desolate and lain to waste and ruin.

Each and every family of our fallen or wounded soldiers should have your addresses and phone numbers and allow them the stand outside your respective disrespectful homes and use their freedom of speech to condemn your actions and opinions! They have a right to seriously put a verbal ass stompin’ on you for your own treacherous words. They have a right to tell your kids and Grandkids just how willing you are to go to great lengths of supporting a traitor in the name of your greater ideas of good. It just proves how much trash we got in the US that needs garbaged up and labeled “Hazardous Material”

You’re not fighting for our rights as citizens; you are fighting for the rights of those who wish to completely abolish those rights, and the very lives of our citizens.

It is a direct enlightenment for one and all on just how stupidly arrogant our populace can be. The damage your words are allowing right now overseas as newspapers reply too and exemplify your own actions is as dangerous as bullets. Go get a plane ticket, you’re on the wrong side of our borders.

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djdrew103,
nobummer will never be a “shining angel” in any reasonably thinking man/woman that uses even 1% of their brain!!!

And that en toto is your complete response to my reasoning in my “longwinded” (I’ll say it before someone else does) verbal repertoire explaining just how “legal” it was to blow this guy up while sitting next to one of the highest targets in our war against terrorists that day? That is the highest level of educated response you can provide.

You merely verify what I say about just digging for trash to lead the people blindly for your own misguided goals. You would opt for this poor excuse of a leader in Ron Paul who preaches so pretty, but is a tool himself?

Our country is surely in a mess,and most won’t admit that “hell”, the whole world is suffering from this financial mess. I guess we should let your Ron Paul run it for a while. I doubt if such literary responses as you offer will never change from the mental misfits out there, (speaking-in-general of opposition parties) that would blindly follow the folly that is being clay modeled and molded by the Repugs.

there’s no question this guy needed wasted, and most of the complainers out there that merely wish to use this as another masked attempt to complain about everything they can, would have slit this guys throat if they could have got away with it, but would sit here and use it as trash attacks on the current administration. I tire of the total hypocritical bias of the tactics and pursuits.

This fool got killed while in the company of one of our major enemies and any one that wishes to abuse that as some form of a political Folly can actually feel free to think that you expect us to believe your hype like a bunch of moronic sheep. Your offers to cure are more deceitful than what you claim the faults of the current presidency is guilty of and we aren’t blind.

May Ron Paul be blessed and may the blind lead the blind, our country needs the lesson.

djdrew103 says, So much that at my age I wouldn’t even try to answer
everything he says.. So I’ll just answer the important parts of his post…Everyone that doesn’t think as he does is an idiot…Ron Paul
has rocks in his head and he hates him… Obama with his sealed records is the best thing that ever happened to the U.S.of A., And if
the Kenyan decides that someone is a potential terrorist, then why go
by the Constitution…after all even one of our former Presidents, told one of his aides to stop shoving the Constitution in my face, it’s just a g– d— piece of paper. Maybe dj. you’re not worried but
those GI’s coming back from the war, and old veterans like me, have
been designated as potential terrorists, by the Homeland Security Administration.. I don’t relish the thought of this Kenyan muslim placing a target on my back..especially after fighting and bleeding
for the country that he is illegaly representing as president.
Article II, Section I. And with our borders wide open, this ‘usurper’
is not only above the law.. he IS THE LAW !

You’re right, Obama and Holder are the two most highly educated “STUPID” men in Washington today, and they will be that way until they croak.