Are you kidding me? You’re blaming GM on the demise of Detroit? How much Kool-Aid have you drank? As for any auto company making cars that people WANT, they do and surprise, surprise they are not the “tuna-cans” that the Obama Administration wants to impose on Americans, but SUV’s and pick-up trucks! You only have to read a car magazine to see that statistically, pick-ups are the most desired vehicle in America! If you have ever been to Europe, which I doubt as your rhetoric tells me otherwise, you’d see that the only pick-up trucks there are American made!!! You really need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid and get your head too, out of your backside to see that it’s the Democrats and their Union thugs that are ruining and bankrupting this nation. I work for a company for the last 35 years and guess what . . . no union! Hard work is what’s kept me employed this long . . . period! We have no union here and we are treated fairly and honestly. The only ones who lose their jobs are those who don’t pull their weight!

Jibbs, back in the 70′s I had a Union General Contractor Company and a Non Union Company. I do know what I am talking about as we hired Carpenter(s) in the area we were building from the Union Hall and had to pay the union dues which were part of the workers hourly wage. Our formen and managers were from the same hall. Back then we only paid the laborers and carpenter’s when they worked period. No hospitalization that was from the Unions and when they retired along with social security they had a pension from the Union. Or this is the way the Unions worked in Ohio. Also this is the way the Iron Workers Union works in Florida. Plus you got trained workers, and that is what you paid for.

I was referring to the “leaders” as was mentioned in the article. Define that as you will.

Before denigrate my teachers, whom you know nothing about, you may want to learn to spell the word comprehend. I know I make spelling errors myself but not while I am talking smack about someone elses education.

LOL! Well said Doc!!!

That’s why I say above that Janice was NOT an English teacher! All the English teachers I ever knew were very particular about spelling and punctuation.

Doc, She will admonish others to learn how to type (spell) while she’s the worst offender on this blog. 45Caliber has called it right, she’s no English teacher. Just another money grubbing real estate agent.

LOL, WOO HOO, well said Doc, I like it!
What did they on Rowen & Martins & Laugh-In…sock it to me!

So, Janice, what you are saying is that there is a hidden agenda by the “educated minority” elite? Well, gosh, as one of the unwashed and “uneducated minority” this comes as quite a revealing insight. I assume, of course, that you consider yourself one of the “controllers”, being as you are one of the “educated minority”. Well, it is good to know who is actually in charge…apparently it is Janice.

Great comment!

Thanks Connie, but I think Janice has moved on. I guess that with “higher education” comes a shorter attention span.

Janice:

Do me the favor of explaining why you and others of similar thought have issue with the Tea Party. From my perspective, the basic concept of the Tea Party where government size is controlled and taxation is only assessed with proper representation (and assessed at reasonable levels) is both desirable and is directly related to the founding principles of this country.

I am not trying to be funny or crass here, but is there something either amiss in my perception of the Tea Party or the ideology that its members possess?

Note to Janice: brush up on your critical thinking skills (that’s liberal teacher speak for common sense.) Mickey wasn’t exactly supporting your earlier posts…

The poor decisions of business managers are what have run the city into the ground. If GM, for example, had built cars that people actually wanted, they could have competed against the German brands that cost more (higher wages there, plus shipping) but they were too busy trying to figure out how to take the money away from the workers that built the cars they were told too. So much right wing propaganda, and the unkowing just eat it up!

Janice M Cullen RE Broker says:
August 30, 2011 at 8:18 am
Nice to hear from one who actually thinks!!

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Here’s something to think about Janice, BTW, thanks for showing up today.

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Hah, you think parents actually have authority to discipline their child? Guess again. Welfare is darkening the door threatening to take the kid away. There are two sets of rules, one in the home and the other at school. If the school thinks the home discipline is wrong, the school reports it (by law)and the kid gets taken away.

Discipline in the home and school used to be the same. In fact, if the kid was disciplined (given a whack on the behind) at school, the kid could expect a second one at home. Now neither can discipline a child in early years, parents have to wait until the kid is 18 and the cops take them away.

I agree. And it is the parents’ fault if the child gets into trouble before eighteen, even if the parents aren’t allowed to punish the child for doing wrong.

Mickey, If the teacher disciplines the student he/she will be fired. They legally cannot touch a child – not so much as a hug. If a child is “acting out” the only option a teacher has is to take away playground privileges for the day. If this behavior continues the next step is to take them to the principal, with the possible outcome of a day, two or three of suspension. The horror stories coming out of the schools, from Elementary onward, is unbelievable.

Connie, public non-education IS a horror story. Any system that systematically produces dumbed-down generations of students, makes a mockery of the teaching profession, controls schools from Washington, wastes time and money and resources in the name of parents and doesn’t (somehow) produce herds of Albert Einsteins is predictable.
They got what they wanted, Connie, and WE paid for the damned thing. Get kids OUT of public schools while you can, people. If you don’t, expect more and more ‘people’ like Obummer and his warped scuzzies and unending schemes for more ‘change,’ ‘transformation’ bankruptcy, and an enslaved America.

You just nailed it Mickey. The government thinks that is their job now.

See Herb!!!!

Janice:

If you were an English teacher, I’m Superman. You can claim to be whatever you wish but your words don’t show it. Sorry. You’d be better off to claim to be someone else.

Janice, who are you to tell anyone to bone up on their typing skills? Your earlier posts were filled with them and your excuse was you hadn’t taught typing.

Connie; She knew that and was wondering why you didn’t take on Herb who’s spelling was truly appalling or do you overlook that when someone supports your opinion.

You do realize that the government contract negioators are spending someone elses money when they negioate with the teachers union don’t you? Most of these people don’t think of the long term effects of what they do to the taxpayers, unlike in the private world. In the private world, the negioator with the union is spending HIS or HER money to keep their people working because if they don’t work, HE or SHE has no product to sell to make money and the stikers don’t get paid either. Both have a stake in a speedy outcome. In public world, if the teachers go on strike, who cares, the school year will just get adjusted, everything else just keeps going, there is no loss.

Pete, you have a point there. The school year just gets adjusted. However, the parents keep on absorbing the expenses. Babysitters’ expense, lost time from work expense, more gas money expense. It costs the parents more to send their kids to public schools than to private.

Our state recognizes this and is beginning to give vouchers for the private schools so parents only have to pay once. The money the state collects for public school is used where if the kids don’t show up (go to private school)?

Union members are taxpayers too! Maybe money would be better spent not cow-towing to the wealthy!

No Dear, many of us don’t need a “Teacher” to inform us because we saw UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL how “collectivism” works, or actually, FAILS to work!

If your concept actually WORKED the Soviet Union would have won the cold war and America would now be nothing but a faded memory of the trash heap of history.

Now “Teacher Dear,” explain to all of us why things didn’t quite work out that way in your great “COLLECTIVIST” dream world???

Nor did you have a choice when you were teaching.

Lady janice, and i’ll say that lady part lightly, YOU ARE NO TEACHER, your more of what i might call an idiot.

Unions only care about one thing and that is the money they get from dues. They can care less about anything else. Good to see you again , fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서!

So, if unions are finally banished as some of you fools wish, do you really think all the protections and decent wages are going to continue? All the things you berate (decent wages, subsidized healthcare, protection against unreasonable discharge, discrimination for various reasons, job safety, reasonable working hours, etc., etc.) would be on the chopping block because they all cost the EMPLOYER, public AND private money they would much rather give to their stockholders, management team, expansion, expediency, etc. and they would have the clout to undo all the things unions have fought for. I agree that some unions locals have put undue barriers against management to reward good workers and punish the lousy ones. Believe me, it bothers me too and I am a union member.

unions and their greed have caused the backlash themselves.

Troll alert! Troll alert! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

MJG2112,
I’m originally from Tecumseh and you have, indeed described Quincy!! My mother went to school in that area as a girl!! Figure, she was born in 1912!!

Sorry, Janice, it was when the FED got involved with education we began to have problems. We didn’t have a teacher’s union when I was young. As students, we were expected to learn and the teacher was God. Both parents and teachers said the same thing. Then it became, “poor little student” must be given the opportunity to learn, and that was many times with drugs, psychological counseling, free breakfast, free lunch, and on and on.

We had a bell curve and not everyone passed.

As for the really good teachers, they moved to private schools where the parents PAID for education and discipline was no longer a problem.

I don’t think WI had the private tutors demonstrating in the streets. Parents pay twice, once in taxes and again for private education.

And I will agree the educated minority control the uneducated. So what is getting in the way of the “uneducated” from learning?

Janice, We already do if you really think about it.

Actually Dave H. is a patriot and I would stand beside him and what he says before I’d stand with you. He’s earned my respect, how about you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

Your cocky ignorance overwhelms you SC as per usual. So the progressives believe if something doesn’t work then a person should jump in with both feet and try again. Now NASA is somewhat conservative so when the space shuttle exploded they should have shut the program down and gave up,right?Is your analogy only good for progressives?

Janice, I hope you did not teach English or spelling. If you did, that would explain why the country is as it is and how we got here.

Yes Kieth I did but I did not teach typing and it is true when my blood boils because of people like you my fingers do not always find the right keys. I still say, if you are so unhappy here you should go where you have No rights, and not the rights you easily access here!

Two things wrong with your argument, unions do nothing but protect the lazy sloppy worker, and punish the producer, always have, and always will. If you are typing, they do have spell check, but being a union worker, I suspect you are of the let George do it group.

Or, he could simply move to TEXAS where Teachers are also tested, and they have the right to QUIT TEACHING if they don’t like the pay-scale!

Funny, we seem to have no real shortage of good Teachers here…

How did you grade your students when they turned in a paper with the errors you made in your responses?

My daughter is a teacher and one of her “things” is not only spelling (inherited from her accountant Mom) but the sentence structure. BTW, she hates the teachers unions. Per her, and her fellow teachers in this district, the unions do NOT represent what they want for their students. Instead the union represents itself and what these union officers decide is best for themselves. They issue instructions on who/what they expect each to vote for – always a Dim (sic) in this largely Republican district of the State of CA, spending millions without the input of those whose money they are using. It’s well beyond the time where unions are useful to the worker. They are nothing more than money grubbing, political whores. To save America we need to dump the unions everywhere.

Spell check utilized; one error. Try it sometime!

jovianus

Jibbs: Gaseous?

Connie, if your daughter is teaching in a forced union state, federal law allows her to redirect her dues to the charity of her choice. Otherwise, she could opt out.

(No spel chk needid heer. Eye was a englsh majer.)

I teach history to students and I teach them our true history and not the one made up be revisionists. It also seems that I teach better than you do Janice. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서!

Janice with your thinking and the rest of the teachers teaching’s ,, we won’t have any rights anyway, so what’s your point, and learn to spell before you call yourself a teacher !!

To Connie: If you want to vote Republican, the unions do not know how you vote….they can tell you who to vote for, but in the end, they are not in the ballot box with you and this is (so far) still a free country….so tell them to “go to hell” as Maxine Waters keeps telling us tea partiers, and vote out the Dems. Vote in 2012 like you very life depends on it, because it does.

Precisely! The teachers with the ability to actually think for themselves vote as they please. The sad part is where those who think they must follow the union dictate.

I agree.

Hopefully no one will take offense at the following thought conveyed to me in an email; I believe that there is a tremendous amount of truth in it for some people:

“If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you were not a racist, that is okay. Now, however, make certain that you vote for someone else in 2012 to prove that you are not an idiot.”

LOVE THAT ZING KEITH!!! I was thinking the same thing!!!

I think Janice is the perfect example of how education in the US has dropped to next to nothing. Unions and their bought and paid for democrats have dumb-ed down education in this country with their crazy ideas like not teaching as much so no child is left behind. Every child is left behind especially with so many ill-qualified union teachers that can not be gotten rid of. I come from a family of teachers, my mother, and her parents were teachers. I myself have worked as a teacher and I know firsthand what a joke education has become in the US because of teacher unions and the democrats. Unions are nothing but a front for organized crime and the sooner the US gets rid of unions, the BETTER!

JD, I should have read your comment before responding to Janice. You have covered it all quite nicely. The NCLB is a total disaster for the education of the kids. If anything, it leaves even more kids behind when the teacher has to “teach to the test”, as my daughter puts it. We can thank GWB for this little piece of pure stupidity. But, as we all are well aware, he’s another of the Bilderberg group who are all for dumbing down America and turning us into another third world country for the New World Order facist organization.

Dump all the Dims (sic) in the next election and deport George Soros. We need to insist on term limits if we want to take our country back. Also need to insist our representatives on the federal, state, county and city levels follow the demands of the citizens rather than their own agenda. Our elected goverment are on the level of the unions – all for themselves.

We need to get constitutional conservatives in majority in congress and dismantle and put to rest the Department of Education. The states can educate their kids without “no child left behind” BS. I am 63 years old and can tell you that there will always be “chids left behind” because there are some that don’t care, and they have parents that don’t care. . . so there is no place for them except for the rest to move on and leave them behind. My daughter teaches and the school spends 6 months a year teaching the kids how to take the damn government test….we had tests….they were called finals and the score you obtained decided if you went to the next grade or repeated the last one again. We need to go back to the basics, Reading Writing and Arithmetic….building a solid foundation that the kids can build on like a house. I went back to college at the age of 42 and had to take the first TASP test…had been out of school for 25 years….I passed all three aspects of it on the first testing period. I got a better education that the kids get today…we were taught that there are more ways to figure out a math problem that just the book version, we were motivated to find another way…we were taught to THINK and use our brains….my daughter took the test about 10 times before she passed it and she was fresh out of high school. Our kids are being dumbed down by the government so they can be the future slaves to them….take education out of their hands and put it back in the hands of the states.

Wanda, you are 7 years my junior, but like you I went back to college in my late 40′s when my daughter also began her college days. In many of the classes I found to be an automatic A, she struggled. Yet she was an honor student in HS and college. To this day I’m still correcting her “me and him” bit which wasn’t covered when she was in public education. Many of the basics we were taught are no longer considered relevant, sad to say.

AMEN JD !!

No wonder the kids can’t spell. I said it before and I’ll say it again, this is not the blog for you. Maybe it’s you that needs to leave.
I’ve not seen a teacher worth two bits in over 30 tears, but they sure fight for their pays raises and bennies.

Jibbs, there are many quite relevant teachers out there…but they are fighting the NCLB and the near to retirement group who don’t much give a damn. The worst part is when there is a rif it’s always the newest who go, not the older don’t give a hoot.

No offence, my comment was aimed at Janice. And I agree 100% with 45′s comment below.

Quit telling people that pay the taxes that now pay your retirement and the teachers working and also the unions that are helping you guys suck the life out of the tax payers. As much money we put in to the schools and teachers pay we all should have scholars but we all know when you have a third party helping what happens tax payers get short change. I say do away with unions. I wish you guys could get paid by results then maybe we could have children that could read and write. And also why so much home work everyday for our children. I should be asking for part of the teachers pay since we have to do there jobs at home.

Janice funniest brain dead posts! {As a retiered teacher let me say that it is about dam time people realizxe that our must precious asset is our youngh people and the bettert the teacher the better they learn and the better off we are!!!!} HA! HA! HA! You a teacher?? Hey Libtard! You got your diploma by mail and the Dean signed it with a crayon! Janice you are a drunken Libtard who got everything backwards, Telling us regular Americans go Live in a Commie countries, You need to live in a commie country, You hate America so much so America is not for you! Stupid Cerdo (Pig) as a Mexican decent I can’t figure out Libtardos from the likes of Janice! Better seek help! all the drinking is causing you to have alcohol poisoning and you liver is about to explode! another reason why you are a angry Libtardo Troll, you being a welfare queen I guess you chow down too much Govt Cheese! Ewwwwww! no wonder why you been posting troll dribble, you are constipated Too much govt cheese! you better take extra strength laxatives! So Janice better watch sesame street and learn how to spell and ask Big Bird for group hug!

Janice, whether or not you use a spell-checker, at the very least you should review what you have written in the heat of anger (or whatever) before sending the message; besides possibly being unintelligible, the message may not say what you meant. Once published on the internet your words are there forever.

Janice, help me out here. Are you implying that it is the UNIONS that are teaching the students? I always thought that it was a teacher in the classroom, not a union. Also, I thought the teachers’ job was to teach, not to continually demand more money and more benefits, treating the students as though they were merely a nuisance.