Capitalist at Birth – you seem to be more of a Crapitalist than a Capitalist. Have you read Atlas Shrugged?

If you have, do you remember that when Individual Rights and Liberty are however infringed there ceases to be either rights or liberty? One basic right we have enjoyed in this country until this millenium is a right to property. Without that right there IS no capitalism.

I don’t advocate write-in votes, either. However, I find myself passionately disgusted with my fellow Americans who know what’s right and do what’s wrong because they are willing to lay down without a fight.That’s exactly how we got here- hiring inept bunglers to run a government we have no interest in running ourselves because we’re too busy making money. Put Dr.Paul on the ballot by donating NOW not later. Tell everyone you know that a true champion of Liberty is running. Buy a bumper sticker and display it proudly on your bumper. Call the media to task when they shamefully divorce Dr. Paul from the campaign. If each of us does what he can now, your concern about which of the two heads of the one party system gets elected may very well never be addressed. Wait til the choice is relegated to obamromneybachmannbidenperryjimmycarterbush (who cares WHAT name in that everybody-loses scenario?)and you are more guilty of destroying our country than the poor gullible welfare recipient that votes honestly for the left. He has no choice. You do. He has no ability. You do. He has no pride. Do you?

The fight for Liberty must be a full frontal attack. Here’s a line in the sand – get on one side or the other of it. There is a right and a wrong, but the area in between right and wrong is EVIL. If that’s where YOU stand, consider making a choice and fighting for your side with everything you have at your disposal. If we meet on the battlefield in the fight for liberty I’ll salute you for having made a choice. If it’s the wrong one, I’ll then chop off your head regretfully.

DONATE NOW SO YOU CAN VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

I refuse to do anything to split the conservative vote. We tried that in 1992 and got Bill Clinton for our trouble. No third party candidate will ever get my vote until we can take down the political powerhouse now controlling the system. THAT I’m willing to work on, but not by supporting a third party. Let the Democrats split their vote trying that…

Perhaps that is why Ron Paul is running in a “major” party instead of a “third” party. So your excuse is gone. And don’t give us any nonsense about splitting the “conservative” vote. Nixon, Bush, Bush, McCain were not conservatives. There has not been a conservative Presidential candidate since Barry Goldwater.

Including Reagan.

By all means, refuse to split the vote. After all, that strategy has worked so well for us in the past. And people like you wonder why Government just keeps growing, and growing, and growing …

Let’s just keep doing the same old thing — voting for the lesser of two evils and then wondering why we continue to get evil. Duh.

lol. Ron Paul is not running as a 3rd party, he is running under the republican ticket, and doing really well with the voters at this events, coming in first at most of them this year.

to say you “take down the political powerhouse now controlling the system. THAT I’m willing to work on” is an empty statement, because you keep playing by their rules. this IS YOUR CHANCE and your passing it up!!!
How do you think this will change other then with guns if no one wants to “waste their votes”
and only votes for guys hand picked buy the media that is controlled by Washington and it’s left and right wing parties?

under your thinking, nothing will ever change, you offer no solutions, just rocks in the road.
so to that I ask you, please, we are trying to save our country here, could you please keep that crap to yourself, the ,media doesn’t need any help here.

Do you honestly think things would have been that much different under NEW WORLD ORDER Bush Sr.? (his worlds, in front of the whole world!) an X CIA man? really?

one other thing, if we don’t get Ron the nomination, we will have Obama for another 4 years, he might be white, but it will be him. The vote is already split, I for one will not vote for these D and R anymore, there is no difference and I’m done playing their game. if I have to write RP name in, so be it.
if I vote for someone I don’t think is right for the job, that’s a wasted vote.

exactly!

My biggest problem with Obama is that he looks a awful lot like Bush to me….
We need some real change in government!

No. Although I agree with many of Ron Paul’s ideas, I do not agree with his stance on foreign policy. The Libertarian Party, has in the past, supported open borders. He has since espoused controlling the borders. I do not trust him. He is 75 years old now. What are his chances of dementia? He may be suffering the signs now, based on his approach to a Nuclear armed Iran, me thinks. I personally, prefer Michelle, Sarah, Herman, Nest, or Rick S. Only people on the fringe think Ron Paul is a good candidate. Evidently you are one of those.

“Although I agree with many of Ron Paul’s ideas,”

Shocking

“I do not agree with his stance on foreign policy.”

So because of his foreign policy alone, you consider his supporters “fringe”? Not very reasonable statement.

“The Libertarian Party, has in the past, supported open borders. He has since espoused controlling the borders.”

He has never, in all of his 30 year record, supported open borders. You imply that he changed his stance, and that isn’t true. He has always supported securing our borders.

“He is 75 years old now.”

Makes him very experienced, not incompetent.

“What are his chances of dementia? He may be suffering the signs now, based on his approach to a Nuclear armed Iran, me thinks.”

That’s you’re own fear talking. See my comments further up in this ‘forum’.

From the Libertarian Party Platform:
http://libertarianparty.org/platform

3.4 Free Trade and Migration
We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.

Mexican citizens risk life and limb to come here for one simple reason. Their country has been ruined by those who disdain freedom.
So some of us think, that by turning our country into a Big Government regulatory nightmare, we are going to become any different than Mexico?

It would solve the immigration problem, because who will want to come here then?

Ack… corrections, lol:

“Tell me why he they are “loons” and I will tell you why they are not.

Tell me why he has no chance, and I will tell you why he does.”

:-/

he/they

lol… ok, where’s my grammer checker, lol

Exactly. If we are to fight a war, let it be from a position of strength, not a position of entangled and over-extended weakness.

Yes, I totally agree!

Right on, Walmart Person.

Very well put Jim.

You say “lies by his lackeys” when talking about the reasons we are in the middle east. Did you ever talk to the troops that found the evidence of the mobile chem labs, the chem warheads or the facilities for the enrichment of fissionable material? Or, did you just get that from the news outlets?

The news outlets never give the full story. And even then, if you take the opportunity to piece together what they ARE telling you and read between the lines of what they ARENT telling you, you will see the the probability that Iraq was capable of what the “Lackeys” were telling us was quite high.

It doesnt take long to go from parts to working weapon system.

Brian grow up wouldya? Ignoring Ahminijad’s nuclear ambitions would certainly ignite a war in the middle east. That’s what RuPaul wants us to do.

Carlos, you are very mistaken about Dr. Paul’s views on national security. He simply believes, as the founders did, that we must get back to defending our nation and not seeking to rule and possess all the other nations. Also, based on several of your posts that I have read, I find myself wondering, Carlos, if you are an American citizen or if you are perhaps, NOT and are worried you might lose all the freebies the Democrats would give you….?

Grow up, Carlos?
What is grown-up about buying into the Big Government fear-mongering?

Our military campaigns around the world. We have more nuclear weapons than any other country in the world except Russia. We are the only country to have ever actually used Nuclear Weapons. What is grown-up about assuming the position of colossal hypocrites?

A Anti Semitic is what we need to rid us of the zionist bankers and clean the zionist off wall street and shut down the zionist run federal reserve that is transferring our treasure to israel .

Our treasure is not going to Israel,the Zionists you are talking about are against Israel,they are in the EU like George Soros,and the Builderburger group,the Rockefellers,they are the Federal Reserve who is transfering our $$ to the EU, Israel is the people GOD has called home as the Bible talks about.They have fought for thier country the country that GOD gave them centuries ago.If you would read the Bible you could see all this coming about..I know who the winner is and it is nice to be on the winning side…

You sound like one of the crazy christians the fundamentalist type that thinks the jews can do no wrong .

The zionist are the jews in charge and running israel . the orthodox jews are the ones that say iserial should not exist as a country because god distburst the jews for pissing him off over something .

Senators Joe Lieberman (Jewish Zionist), Joe Biden (Protestant Zionist), and John Boehner (Protestant Neocon) stood on the Senate floor and came out and admitted Social Insecurity payments will be slashed to pay for more and more wars in the Mideast. That’s right, 700 military bases in 130 countries and more and more insane wars at your expense. The U.S. already spends 50% of the world military budget with only 5% of the world population.

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=bsb4hfcab&v=001vumIjKLl6–8uH_1KtA_mE5Hm8ob65Rcl-4zsgLN_83-84pL3uzOB4LgweaHeW0NdrVKMCc6NX3y-CDlZF1z_d49n102zXV0QkT6-GlUIdo%3D

What nonsense!

Where are you getting your “facts” from? Just because you “read something somewhere” does NOT make it fact. Remember, main stream media is owned by corporations with special interests – your information is only as reliable as its source. I would be very interested in knowing what your sources are.

Wanda
If you can’t understand what you hear, don’t try to repeat it.
It only shows your ignorance of the facts.

Wanda
You have been spitting out these things with out doing your research,And you believe that some one here will listen to you.Look you need to open your mind as well as your eyes go here and understand what he votes for and why.Then come back an show all of us where in the constitution it says that he is wrong!!!!
http://libertarianparty.org/platform

Easy for you to say, Wanda, but do you have any proof for your slander?

Who does the Communist Party USA endorse? Duh, give me a few minutes to think. Okay, time’s up!
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=329449

Eastern Orthodox is a fine religion, but please don’t discredit others of that faith by tainting it with anti-semitic bigotry. That is very unChristian regardless of which branch of Christianity we are talking about.

jimmy,
If, as you say you are eastern orthodox, you should also know it is said that “pride goeth before the fall”!

Well said! Rick Perry’s record shows him to be a flip-flopping, bible-thumping puppet for the globalists who changes his views to accommodate special interests. He was hand-picked by the Bilderberg group to run for US President. Google his record which will attest to his duplicitous nature. He may “look” like a president, but what is more important, the packaging or the substance?

You are SO right, (again), TIME. This is our last chance to pull this country back up out of the throes of perdition. Vote Ron Paul!

P.S.- LOVED the jab about Perry being Bush on steroids! LMAO!!!!

i agree 1000 percent. If he does not win we are in big trouble.

TIME, it’s possible we might not have a election next year.

There probably will be an election next year, and that election probaly won’t be our last chance to save freedom, but it is possible that it might be. So let’s get busy now. Convince the hardcore “conservative” Republicans first that Ron Paul is the best candidate and does have a chance to win, then work individually on “common voters” who are not so politically inclined but will otherwise be easy prey for the Establishment media to mislead them. Get the US out of the UN, and get the UN out of the US. Otherwise, all liberty will be lost.

NS,

We now have elections that are more controlled than not, if there is a 2016 election it will be “100% totaly controlled”
Thus what many of you note as the Constitution and Bill of Rights will be just ink on old Hemp paper, their value has been lost and 2012 will be the finial nail in the coffin.

Thats why I say if we don’t get Dr. Ron Paul as the next Potus, and remove as many RINO’S in both houses, the 2012 election is the end.

I stand by that statment based on thousands of hours of research into who the real players are.
Not based on Bull Sh*t from alledged CONcertives or quasi Liberals.
I use only the facts, only the very Doucments that have been signed into law.

Not unlike the {{Balanced budget bill of August 1997,)) yet in 2011 we have a alledged “CONcertive” congress talking about a balanced budget bill, yet they can’t even follow the laws they already passed.

Time,
My friend, I think you made a freudian slip on your spelling of “documents” had you put an e after that c, it would be very astute!!

Yes, we’ll probably have an election next year. However, whoever is elected to federal office my just preside over the breakup of the USA union. There seems little reason to maintain the fiction of a United states.

Perry is a big supporter of the North American Union, also known as the North American Corridor, he gave a speach on it. I have found many posts on YouTube with him giving speaches about such, lying about knowing about it, and many other bad things. I like Ron Paul for many reasons but I cannot support him with a good conscience. I do not like that he supports Same Sex Marriage, thinks it is ok if Iran of all countries controls Nukes, and a few other things. I totally support his following ideas however: closing the Fed and IRS, Stop being a world police state, reverse the (Not so) Patriot Act, and many others. We need to reverse all unconstitutional measures, get out of countries that do not require our help (I only support those who request it and are not enemies of ours), prosecute all politicians who are involved in groups that wish to bring us down, prosecute George Soros and all his cohorts for treason, extridite all who work to bring down our federalist system, etc, etc, etc.

Thank you Troy! I have said very much the same many times. Hate to say it though… I am liking Santorum more and more.

When in the world Ron Paul said that he supports same sex marriage, or that it’s ok if Iran of all countries controls Nukes?
Why you people LOVE to make up things instead of really paying attention to what Ron Paul really says. He also wrote a book on his views and his stand. READ IT for God sake !!!!!

He said he wants the governments OUT of marriage decision and it should be up to us [THE PEOPLE] how we live our life. What is wrong with that? Since when we can’t decide anything about our life and need the government to tell us what we can and can’t do ?
What about the government next is telling you that you can;t marry after age 50, or that your wife has to be the same age as you are?
So, Ron Paul is for YOU TO DECIDE FOR YOURSELF what is good for you!
To be free to live your life as you please without bothering others.

About Iran, when in the world he said that it’s ok for Iran to CONTROL Nukes? He said, Iran like any other country is entitle to want what everyone else want or has already, and that should be understandable.
Why it’s ok for China or Russia or USA to have nukes but it’s a big deal if Iran want to have them as well?
Use your logic if you have any. If you would use it you can see that everything Ron Paul says makes perfect sense.
We can’t blame people for wanting what WE CREATED in the first place.
We are the ones policing the world, bombing all the places as we please in the name of “peace” and “order”. How ironic!!!

Sorry Lil… I actually do agree with Dr. Paul on the same sex marriage issue and I consider myself a social libertarian. Unfortunately we will have to agree to disagree with regards to the interpretation of his foreign policy issues. I would love to sit with him face to face to expound on them… and maybe he can convince me.

The last debate was the first time I have heard him talk… and I am just going by but gut on what he meant… and I dont agree with it.

Lil, just to clarify one point, my understanding has been that Dr. Paul believes defining marriage should be handled at the state level because it is not a power given to the federal gov’t. He has also clearly stated that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Ron Paul on Gay Marriage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGaBAb_oS84

I agree with Ron Paul about the oxymoron called “gay marriage”. Marriage has been defined by society as a whole for centuries. One of the most dangerous things that we could do is let the government get away with redefining marriage. If the government can get away with that, then it can get away with redefining anything. Then all liberty would soon be lost. That is why “DOMA” is not needed and sets a very bad precedent.

troy
(I do not like that he supports Same Sex Marriage, thinks it is ok if Iran of all countries controls Nukes, and a few other things.)
So what your saying is that the gubmnt should tell you what you can do,And thats alright with you?
So when you say (We need to reverse all unconstitutional measures,)You mean not all but just the ones that you think are not right?Instead of making unfounded remarks why not go here and learn the truth!http://libertarianparty.org/platform
Freedom is not given to us by way of the gubmnt it is a God given right and the constitution protects those rights by limiting the gubmnt’s over reaching authority.Take the time to understand it Ron Paul has been preaching it for over thirty years and apparently you were not listening.So Please research the truth.

Marriage has been defined by society as a whole for centuries. Doom will ultimately result if we let government get away with redefining it. I think we should let consenting adults do what they want to do with each other,but we should not be coerced into approving it, and we should not allow them to teach our children that preversion is a morally acceptable lifestyle.

RE:

a) “I do not like that he supports Same Sex Marriage”

and

b) “We need to reverse all unconstitutional measures”

For starters, Dr. Paul does not “support” Same Sex Marriage. I’m sorry, but you are simply mistaken on this. Dr. Paul’s position is that it’s not an issue the federal government should be involved in one way or the other. I imagine he would hold the same position about anything that ostensibly assumes some perceived federal “benefit”. Because after all, isn’t that was this is about? If the federal government gives benefits to “couples”, then “couple” needs to be defined, right? Which, I think, only applies to federal tax law, which of course, Dr. Paul would like to do away with altogether. Anyway, this is essentially a federal benefits question.

At ths same time, Dr. Paul has clearly stated that he thinks legitimate marriage is a relationship between one man and one woman and has even gone so far as to say that he would support a DOMA. Beyond that, he sees the issue as one for the states and the people to decide (ala the 10th Amendment). People have a right to set standards for their communities (from states to neighborhoods to individual households). And Dr. Paul supports that right.

In any event, how do you reconcile your two statements? Do you not see the disconnect? There is nothing in the constitution to even HINT at the idea that the FEDERAL government should have any involvement regarding personal decision issues (marriage, drugs, light bulb choices, raw milk choices, insurance mandates, etc) that don’t directly harm others.

At least the Congress that passed the 18th Amendment (prohibition) had the honesty to know that THEY HAD TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION in order to do it. It didn’t work, of course (only made matters worse, actually) and they had to repeal it. But don’t you see the clear difference between that approach and what people are wanting to do now; that is, have the federal goverment get involved in everything they don’t like about other people?

I’m confused about your confusing of these issues (the idea that you can think of yourself as a supporter of the Constitution, yet think the federal government should have a role in these unconstitutional things). Please reconsider your position. And please look into what Dr. Paul actually believes, not what others say he believes.

Blessing to you.

Troy,
Get it straight please. Ron Paul does not “support” same-sex marriage. He just thinks it is none of the Federal Government’s business.
Here is his stance on Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujl_sTPZPLY

Who are we to say what country has what weapons? Here we are gallivanting all over the world with our pushy military. And we are the only country which has ever actually used Nuclear Weapons. We should be trusted, but nobody else can be? Ridiculous.

If we survived 8 years of Cheney Bush, we will survive 8 years of Barack Obama!

Taz
Look at it this way,Bush was trotting along spending money where he thought it would create jobs.Now obumer is on a full speed gallop to the finish line and not looking back.Do you really think that we can survive this?The funny thing is when Ron Paul takes the office you all will be blaming him for the mess that he was willing to clean up.I can assure you that he wont spend three years pointing fingers at obumer,He will be to busy cleaning up his mess,unlike your boy want to be.Really you guys really did your home work on this one didn’t you?

Bush spent like a drunken sailor.
Obama spends like a drunken sailor on steroids.

Time
That could not be Doc!I think someone with sense stepped in.Good luck on the fishing trip!

TIME

You must be in a different TIME period. All liberals talk about is Paul.

Candidate Ron Paul and Drug Laws
http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2011/05/10/ron-paul-and-drug-laws/

Ron Paul flirts with the presidential race every four years, making a big splash among college kids and on the Internet. His fundraising ability through Internet websites and money bombs is a thing of envy for other less technologically savvy candidates.

His supporters are very vocal, known for their networking ability to flood Internet polls to skew the results, but in the end they were too few in number to get Paul the nomination in 2008. However, you can see his results in the 2008 primaries here.

His votes paled in comparison to the Beltway candidate McCain and that is pretty pathetic. When McCain lost primaries it was either Romney or Huckabee who beat him.

Well Cracked Egg head,

Your name exactly denoteds what level of IQ you posses.

But on that note: I thank you for clearly displaying just haw scary many “Alledged Consertives” truly are.

Other than being totaly Ignorant beyond any words I can muster, Nazi like in many respects, and to top that off Pure Idiots who are no better than the QUASI Liberal’s who rally around their demi God Barry Obama.

Its really people like you that make me think that the Progressive may have the right idea, {eliminate on mass the mindless worthless eater.}

Thus persons like yourself can’t even grasp the loss of this nations “Personal Libertys” as you are no better than the Mindless ZOMBIES sheep that follow Barry Obama as I noted.

May the God’s have pitty on the Idiots of the world as they have made the earth a living Hell for anyone with higher levels of gray matter.

Thus proving the old theory;

“Hell is having to live with other people who have either limited IQ’s below 100, or IQ’s the same as their shoe size.”

Hey afterall you have Ann Colter on your side as well as Rush BimboBaaa, as well that worthless Zombie Hannity and his BUBBA OReally the boobie.
Right along with all the other wack jobs, hey your type even rates in with Chris Mathews and the Madddog, plus all the other really wacked out nummie on the BOOB TBUE.

Goodie for you old Cracked EGG Head.

All the King’s horses and all the King’s men…can’t put Humpty to gether again…….Broken beyond repair!

TIME:

Wow, you have sure been rather, ah, forthright lately as this is just one of many “dressing downs” you have posted lately. Lovin it.

Are you realy Lee Ermy masquerading as TIME? LOL!

Time
This is what I would call a true fence sitter,That pretty much explains his name.He has been leaning to the left a little to far.I would like to see how he voted for the best of the best that money could buy and if he thought it was a improvement over the last.Truly amazing that there is so many mouth breathers that can still hold up their heads above the stench.Maybe we should reconsider Gates idea of vaccinations except this time we will only have the libs take it instead.BTW there is a bill in congress thats called the heart beat bill that needs to be voted on shortly.It protects against abortion when there is a heart beat!Hope all here will look it up and help pass this bill.

Time;

You must be a commie pinko puke in disguise with the b.s. diatribe you had against Humpty Dumpty. You mus think your diatribe was humoruous and enlighting. I makes about as much sense and Das Kapital and all of the commie puke that the leftist zombies and the right wing loonies are spewing out of their behinds.

TIME, Calm down, you are rude and abusive to people.

- Calling people Cracked Egg Head as the same time you go into a rage and want to promote illegal drugs.

- You accuse people “denoteds what level of IQ you posses”, yet at the same time you get enraged, and are unable to argue and call names. You just proved how low your IQ is.

- You said: “Nazi like in many respects” accusing people of being NAZI, so it’s either your way or the highway when you can not accept the truth.

Everything I see in Humpty Dumpty’s posting IS FILLED WITH FACTS.

- TIME said, “ Pure Idiots who are no better than the QUASI Liberal’s who rally around their demi God Barry Obama.” In fact, your views and your behavior are extremely LIBERAL and THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE but at the same time demonize and falsely accused others are being liberals. How disgusting!

- TIME, you’re calling Humpty Dumpty “Liberal”, but at the same time you could not hide your true identity as being a radical left-wing NUT. In the next sentence you’re bashing Conservative talk show hosts like “afterall you have Ann Colter on your side as well as Rush BimboBaaa, as well that worthless Zombie Hannity and his BUBBA OReally the boobie.” …. GOTCHA!!

*** So who is the really the cracked head and who is mindless zombie as you called people? ***

- TIME, IT IS YOU & YOU’VE PROVEN YOURSELF.
Calm down don’t make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have.

There’s no apostrophe on “Gods”.

Hey peoples rights,

Man you are a REAL winner, as well you are a clear picture of just why I fear the “QUASI conservative’s” just as much as I fear “Quasi liberals.”

Cracked egg head has not one single point correct within his text, thus providing that you’re just as clueless as he is.

Or are you in fact cracked egg head?
You do understand that you have a finger print in you’re style of writing, its called “SYNTAX” – oddly the two of you fit like hand and glove.

Thus your post is fruitless as well exposing your ZOMBIE like mental abilitys.
But hey the good part is this -You have a nice day there sunshine.

DUH~ANE,

Yo ~ bubba, that post of your’s is really special, hey did you take a class to write that?
Oh come on tell the truth, did you called me a pinko commie. LMAO..

Bubba if you had half a bloody brain cell who knows what you may be able to come up with.
Now you be a good little monkey and get back in your cage.

Old Henry,

Hey how are you? Yea I do get sick of the quasi what evers, they really are little wankers.

You know I tell you, I changed my mind on how things work based on this date, (March 13th 1997,) around 7:40PM.
I was on my way home to Flagstaff AZ from Tucson I was on I 17 when I hit the mountain pass of General Cook Trai. It was the next day that exposed me to what the hell is really wrong with our nation’s political figure heads, as well all the mindless ZOMBIES that follow them. Google the date, and the word Pheonix.

I as well as at least 10 car’s full of people pulled off the road and saw this event as clear as day, and there were over 5000 people who reported this event who also saw it at some point along the 350 mile long treck.
Only to be told what we saw was not there. Thats when I really woke up.
From that “TIME” forward I look at the media as little more than garbage with legs, and most Politicians as little more than Prostitutes.

So when I see some half baked Nano wit make statments that are at best worthless, I will insult them as the ignorant trash they are.
Just like Peoples rights who thinks Ann Coulter, Hannity or Oreily have the American peoples best interest in mind.
I have met these alledged special people in person they do not reflect Personal Liberty at all.

I will tell you that John Stossel, as well Judge, and the spelling is off I am sure Napatinalo from FOX are both Good solid people, who just like myself “say what I mean and mean what I say.”

Really there is only “TRUTH” and then everything else. I stand with TRUTH.

See you soon we were leaving on a fishing trip on Friday only to have an issue come up that needed to be addressed ASAP so we leave Sunday.
So those of you are are Good people Kick Ass and take names.

and your point is ??????????????????

TO TIME,

Humpty Dumpty’s posting material was copied from the website that he listed for you, and it isn’t his writing, mine nor anyone else, EXCEPT the Author. I just saw her first posting and can’t tell much about him, and Im always helping Conservatives when they were attacked by TROLLS.

Seems you have a very low IQ and you’re just mad bc you were caught lying, therefore you can’t figure it out.

Im not like YOU or the mainstream media, I don’t have any liberal agenda (such as Ron Paul, advocate George Soros’s activities) to sell. I do not disguise myself as a conservative the way YOU and TROLLS DO, and then go out and attack REAL conservatives and the Conservative Talk Show Host like you do.

IF YOU HAVE TO HIDE YOURSELF TO SELL YOUR AGENDA, THEN YOU KNOW YOU’RE LYING AND ALL YOUR AGENDA ARE TOXIC!!!!!!

I know that you’re trying to sell us your Progressive Idols.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, DICK MORRIS, BERNIE GOLBERT, JOHN STOSSEL AND LOU DOBBS ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES. THEY ARE LIBERALS & IT’S NOT ONLY MY OPINION.

You, the mainstream media and Trolls do nothing but trash Conservatives 24/7.

TIME,
Q#1 – so how MANY names do you go under to sell your liberal agenda and disguise yourself as Conservative, so people think that many agree with you?

I don’t have any agenda to sell, and I was very frank with people ALL RON PAUL’s AGENDA IS VERY DANGEROUS and they are totally different with what the Founding Fathers fought for, agree?

Q #2 – Why do you guys feel that you need to post every few minutes, pretty much 24/7?

Q#3 – So how many times do each of you post to BURY good Conservative postings? See what I meant, I just posted and you guys manage to make it disappear. SEE, it shows HOW AFRAID YOU GUYS ARE OF THE TRUTH.
I know each time when you see a good Conservative posting on “the Community COMMENTS” shows, you guys automatically come out and start posting until it DISAPPEARS. Sometimes you people argue back and forth, and it sounds so phony.

Q#4 – What about your liberal writers who disguise themselves as conservatives, you don’t seem complain about them, do you?

That shows how much of a hypocrite you are and your bias toward liberals!!!

Thanks a lot for your support guys.

TIME, you’re a clueless liberal. You are clearly confused for some reason, I’ve no idea who this People’s Rights person is. I only quoted from the video, and if you weren’t so stupid you could figure it out for yourself. Go to hell.

You’re right, Dumpty. We need a candidate who will continue the costly freedom-robbing and futile drug wars. We need a candidate who will continue the decade long costly freedom-robbing and futile efforts to instill our culture on the Mideast.
We need a candidate who will continue lying to us while he subtly continues building the Leviathan Government that we now have at the expense of the citizens.
Ron Paul isn’t that man.

As TIME has said, “The facts are people like the above noted are bound on taking this once great nation down to the depths of hell”.

TIME is wrong bc people like Humpty Dumpty and many good people, we do not support illegal drugs, prostitution, big government, etc..

People like TIME, RON PAUL & USEFUL IDIOTS are advocating illegal drugs and Prostitution which have the SAME platforms as GEORGE SOROS and are very dangerous.

All Humpty Dumpty was doing is warning people of what they are getting into. People need to figure out who are the ones trying to destroy this country and making a profit, by condoning the SALE and USE of ILLEGAL DRUGS.

“People like TIME, RON PAUL & USEFUL IDIOTS are advocating illegal drugs and Prostitution which have the SAME platforms as GEORGE SOROS and are very dangerous.”

Incorrect. Continuing the failed, expensive “War on drugs” is the platform of useful idiots. We prosecute and imprison people for possessing a plant. A freaking plant! Then we expect people not to hold said plant and we expect them to change, yet they do not. Insanity?
Instead people show up in town commons holding said plant waiting to be arrested and prosecuted thus wasting yet more tax dollars. That is pure stupidity over a plant. Again, the failed, expensive “War on drugs” is the platform of useful idiots like yourself.

“All Humpty Dumpty was doing is warning people of what they are getting into. People need to figure out who are the ones trying to destroy this country and making a profit, by condoning the SALE and USE of ILLEGAL DRUGS”
Incorrect. Returning to and abiding by the Constitution is not an attempt to destroy the country. It will save the country. Half the crap the country spends money on is NOT supported by the Constitution (A document that is supposed to limit Federal powers), spending, expansion of Government and idiotic laws are what is truly destroying the country.

Get a clue, live up to your name and stop being a useless idiot.

Ron Paul just whats the federal goverment to stay out of the war on drugs and leave to the states.

Hey Usual Idiot Bleh

Sorry, none of your lies will change the facts and justify your and Ron Paul’s actions and his platforms.

BLEH said, “Get a clue, live up to your name and stop being a useless idiot.”

- So you’re telling me YOU ARE A USEFUL IDIOT – Good and act like one too.

- I have lived up to my name whether you like it or not, can you tell my useful idiot? You hate people, who are exercising their Freedom of Speech, don’t you?

“We prosecute and imprison people for possessing a plant. A freaking plant!”

- What a big LIE! Useful Idiot, you should know police dept. don’t have several detectives to go after a freaking plan; and everybody knows they don’t even have enough people to cover a much bigger crime; “Insanity?” you asked. YES, IT’S YOU BLEH – A Useful Idiot.

You said, “Continuing the failed, expensive “War on drugs” is the platform of useful idiots.”

- You intentionally left out the main point who is the main source distribute illegal drugs, did you?

- Get a clue, Useful Idiot that’s all the drug problems come from.

- “Failed and Expensive “War On Drugs” is the flatform of Useful Idiots like you who are USELESS to society!!

- And as you put it: “Some people just don’t have a clue how stupid they sound.” …. That’s the best way to describe yourself – Thank you!

Why is it that so many posters tend to use flowery names that usually turn out to be opposite of what they reveal about themselves in their comments?
Some reality:
About 17,000 people a year die from illicit drug usage.
About 32,000 people a year die from prescription drug complications.
About 85,000 people a year die from alcohol usage.
About 435,000 people a year die from tobacco usage.
Yet our Governments insist on spending about $40 Billion a year fighting their ineffective Drug Wars. And to add insult to injury much of our loss of Constitutional rights has been justified by their desire to stop illicit drug usage. Authorities have killed many innoncent people in their vane efforts to stop drug usage. They have terrorized many more innocent families with their Nazi-like drug raids. They have used the Drug Wars as an excuse (forfeiture laws) to take away cash money and other property from many people whose only crime is distrust of banks or ignorance of the lifestyles of those who rent their property. They have enriched the worst segment of society (the drug lords), and we all know that money is power. Most of the crimes attributed to drug usage are a result of the sky-high drug prices which are a result of the illegality of those drugs. So, in other words, most of the drug crimes exist solely because of the illegality of those drugs.
All that, and the same Government subsidizes tobacco which kills far more people than illicit drugs.
The cure is much worse than the disease. As usual, Big Government is the Problem, not the Solution.
We live in one very sick society.

DaveH, you asked me to answer your unreliable information, especially the numbers you picked out of thin air? For someone like you who is posting non-stop 24/7, and sending Bob Livingston’s audience away to your liberal websites, you should be able to answer your own questions.

Now you try to blame me? Have you asked Ron Paul for answers, and what he has done during his 80 years of his life as CAREER LONG POLITICIAN? Which is WORSE? YOU and your unreliable sad stories, OBAMACARE or incapbale and useless RON PAUL or ME?

Please read Herman Cain’s comment – a cancer survivor, he said I would be “DEAD” if Obama care law had been passed sooner.

Progressives like DaveH, love to ask stupid questions and demand to legalize, sell and take drugs (heroin) and then insult people, “Some people just don’t have a clue how stupid they sound.” or “We live in one very sick society.”

DaveH still can’t tell the difference between causing problems or solving problems?

Manipulate Kook politicians like Ron Paul to get children and the entire population easy access to drugs like Heroin or get more addicted to drugs is NOT a solution. Massive amounts of funding from George Soros, Facebook and Progressive corps. have been spent to get it passed in every election for decades, and they will continue to have it place on the ballot UNTIL it gets passed.

I guess you WANT take advantage and NOT WASTE A GOOD CRISES as your party leaders Hillary and Rahm Israel Emanuel said.

“Quote HumptyDumpty”"His votes paled in comparison to the Beltway candidate McCain and that is pretty pathetic. When McCain lost primaries it was either Romney or Huckabee who beat him.”

This is the same rationale that has plagued may a poor sot that drank the same koolaid derved up by the globalist RINO NEOCONS year after year on FOX news and other Isreali influenced networks. It is time you and others wake up! The pretty boys and girls that are being offered up by the RNC are corrupt and this country needs rescued now. You had better get the word out and turn your back on all these candidates in the so-called conservative field. They will just continue what is going on now! We just cannot afford buying friends with unnecessary foreign aid. Buying aircraft to the tune of billions that could not out-perform ancient soviet planes. Screwing retirees, soldiers, and seniors by cutting their benefits and bolstering handouts to the unwilling to work! Giving millions of jobs away to foreign invaders. Accepting bribes from corporate and union lobbyists, and the big banks to corrupt our economy and our livelihood. And now the Chinafication of America to repay debts our government borrows to keep our spending spree going. I do not like any of Obama’s Hope and Change! It sucks man! We need someone with a backbone to stand up for the country and the constitution again!!!

Carlos,
You need to read the book “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLorenzo and get a clue as to how successfully we have all been brainwashed to believe that Big Government is the solution to our problems.
You are an excellent example of that.

That’s right Carlos, you cannot ignore people like M. Savage and Ron Paul, and apparently neither can you. But as for you, I can understand why you can’t ignore them. Does ending illegal immigration ring a bell? You understand me, right amigo?

So returning to the Constitution and abiding by it is the actions of an Extremist? If so we need thousands more of them in the Government.
Perhaps you should review Ron Paul’s voting record and re-assess your viewpoint so you don’t continue to look so stupid.

Some people just don’t have a clue how stupid they sound.

Bleh, see my response to your posting and your name-calling.

- You said, “Failed and Expensive “War On Drugs” is the flatform of Useful Idiots.”

Yes, like you who are a USEFUL IDIOT but USELESS to society!! Get a clue and stop being a useless idiot.

- And as you put it: “Some people just don’t have a clue how stupid they sound.” …. That’s the best way to describe yourself – Thank you!

Experience has shown that the anti-drug zealots’ alarmism is without merit:
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

California’s Prop 19:
http://reason.org/news/show/just-a-matter-of-when

From the article:
“For the same reason, and with more anger, most of the growers from Northern California’s fertile Humboldt and Mendocino counties were against Prop. 19. The initiative lost in both. Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) and one of the oldest warriors in the national drug policy fight, says the growers rebelled when they decided there was “no way post-prohibition for anyone to fetch $15 or $25 for a gram of dried vegetable matter.” People currently making $25 to $30 an hour trimming weed in Humboldt imagined their jobs reduced to minimum-wage work or eliminated entirely”.

Get it? The illegal manufacturers and sellers don’t want it legalized because it would stifle them from making the Big Bucks.

You are a bit mixed up, but I don’t have time now to clarify things for you. Please study more.

“Iran nuked America”?? Where do these insane ideas come from?

Iran doesn’t have “nukes”; nor does Iran have any way to deliver them if they did have them. Only Israel, Pakistan, India, etc., have. But for the threat du jour, it’s gotta be Iran. Boo!

Are you setting us up for yet another war to support the warfare state?

If you would have listened to what Paul said during the debate, he would not intervene with Iran getting nukes… and by extension, a system to deliver those nukes anywhere they choose. So wandamurline is correct in that regard.

Why should we “intervene”? What gives us the right to do so? And what do you think is involved in “intervening”?
Many, many, countries have ‘nukes’… why should we pick which countries have them?
As far as I can remember, the only country who has ever even used such bombs… is US!

How many of them do you trust to use without provocation?

And for your history lesson… the US was in the middle of a war at the time. Not looking to annihilate a country just for the sake of the fact that you do not agree with its existence. Part of the decision to use the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was to prevent further, possibly millions, more casualties what would have occurred had the US landed on Japanese home soil.

While the US has made mistakes in the past, more often than not (and to the detriment of our troops), the US has taken the high road.

@Morduin00 – I trust that they will NOT use without provocation.

Now answer my questions. In case you missed them…

Why should we “intervene”?
What gives us the right to do so?
And what do you think is involved in “intervening”?

@TML

Before I answer your questions, understand that I would rather that nukes, chem and bio weapons did not exist… for anyone. And, I believe everyone has a right to defend their country.

1) Why should we intervene?
-as a dominant super-power, we have an obligation to make the world safer
-Iran’s leadership has openly stated and supported groups that have a vested interest in destroying the US and Israel.
(personally I would love to see the world allow Israel take care of their own problem but majority of the world organizations are anti-semetic and blame Israel first and foremost for the Mid East problems.)

2) What gives us the right to do so? The international community, to an extent has given us the right but virtue of our standing in the world. Quite frankly, when Kuwait was invaded, who did the world turn to?

3) What do I mean by intervening? Intervention can take many forms. But mostly what I take umbrage against Paul’s statement is that we have no right… regardless of circumstances. I disagree with that and believe that national security is utmost important. Iran has openly stated their hatred for the US… and not because of sanctions.

I do not have anything personal against Dr. Paul, I just don’t agree with his foreign policy views and assessments. He is so much better at financial issues on which I do agree with him. I just feel you need to have a vigilant eye on those who wish us harm and know who those people are. Giving Iran free reign now will not make them any friendlier to us than they are now.

And TML… I wish I shared your optimism that Iran would not use the nukes without provocation.

MorduinOO,
Wandamurlin,

Ron Paul stated that we would not have to intervene on Israel’s behalf… as they have plenty of nucs and we only need to GET OUT OF THE WAY, QUIT TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO with their borders, and let them lead their OWN country.

I stand with Israel and they are quite capable… Israeli’s leader Benjamin Netanyahu(sp? sorry) said Israel doesn’t need our help, just quit interfering, forcing them to give up their land and let them run their own country.

Ron Paul does have some Libertarian ideas that I don’t necessarily agree with, but not all his libertarian views will get put into law as he will have a Democrat (socialist) and Establishment RINO Republican (with a few Tea Party Constitutionalists) that won’t sign all the bills he wishes to put forward… we still have a ‘Checks and Balances’ when it comes to Conservative ideals, just not Communist ideals… they get a pass by their NWO friends!

@Christin,
I agree that we as well as the rest of the world need to get out of Israel’s way. They are actually great people if you get to know them.

So based on your checks and balances? How effective of a pres do you think Dr. Paul will be? I don’t see him getting anything by congress esp his views on the fed reserve (since they are all in bed with each other anyway).

“-as a dominant super-power, we have an obligation to make the world safer”

“Safer” seems to be a subjective judgment. Wise man once said; those who give up a liberty for a little temporary safety, deserve neither, and will lose both. Being a “dominant” super power, we should lead by example, you don’t make the world safer by the barrel of a gun

“-Iran’s leadership has openly stated and supported groups that have a vested interest in destroying the US and Israel.”

Which came first… the chicken or the egg? Do you realize that all the countries we are at war with are Muslim countries? Do you know that what united Muslims into cohesive nations was the defense against the Crusades? Do you know that they see these wars as nothing more than the same? WE are the provocateurs. Not them. Those open statements were made well after we were already trying to intervene in their nation.

“2) What gives us the right to do so? The international community, to an extent has given us the right but virtue of our standing in the world. Quite frankly, when Kuwait was invaded, who did the world turn to?”

And perhaps there was justification for that at the time. But we didn’t ‘help’ until a ‘crime’ was committed, via the invasion of a peaceful country. Regardless, this does not translate to a justification, or right, to invade or intervene in a countries desire for defense that has not attacked us. This does not give us the right to preemptively or preventively attack another country that has not provoked us.

“3) What do I mean by intervening? Intervention can take many forms.”

Intervention: interposition or interference of one state in the affairs of another.
That’s right… it can take many forms. So where do you draw the line?

But mostly what I take umbrage against Paul’s statement is that we have no right… regardless of circumstances.

We don’t have a right to intervene in the affairs of other countries, and never will, and the only justification that’s ever presented, is one based on fear. It is the same with preventive or preemptive war… which is always based on fear.

What Paul said is that he doesn’t think sanctions do anything, but make other countries mad. He also usually points out that our foreign policy is about stealing or controlling oil and it sucks us into unnecessary wars. He’s right. If most Americans are sick of funding wars and sending our sons to die for stupid causes (not national defense usually) and most of us realize our leaders have been insanely incompetent for decades, why do we balk at looking at the policies driving some of these decisions?! Everyone that truly cares about the future of our country needs to stop listening to the talking points and media and actually go to Ron Paul’s website and read about the issues. Also, DO check out his voting record. It clearly shows that even if a program looks good on the surface (feeding kids breakfast, lunch and supper at school…we can’t have hungry kids, right?), Paul votes against it if it is not supported by the authority of the Constitution. That is exactly what he took an oath to do. Too bad most of the other Congressmen don’t put as much devotion to the Constitution in their voting!

We should support Israel’s right to exist. Yet if Israel would attack Iran what would stop Pakistan from entering the fiasco? Iran also has a friend in Russia and Putin is still an egomaniac. Ron Paul is right in not trying to stoke the fires in Iran and we would certainly be dragged into it.

TML… LOL. You make great points. However, I can find just as many points in history as well to back my point of view (eg. the first crusades were to remove the muslims from Jerusalem (started by France non-the-less)).

I am afraid, my friend, that we will have to agree to disagree on this.

However, I will make you a deal and still listen to what Dr. Paul, and the other candidates have to say. PA has one of the latest primaries so I have plenty of time to make my decision. However, it is usually too late by then anyway .

Last time, I didnt like McCain, but I didnt like Obama more. Such poor choices we have

“I wish I shared your optimism that Iran would not use the nukes without provocation.”

“I am afraid, my friend, …”

You fear too much, friend and because of that…

“…that we will have to agree to disagree on this.”

…I concur

Peace be with you

Morduin00:

“-as a dominant super-power, we have an obligation to make the world safer”.

Does that not make us “arogant” and due for another scathing rebuke by Little Barry?

Frist let me say this. The other Country’s that hate us do not hate the American People just the Government that run America. Its the back room deals our Government have made with the Big Corporations,The Big Banks to fight the wars we as Americans did not want. I’m Wondering why they with all the Money they have did not send in their own troops and spend their own money rather then The American Tax Payers Money. The Greed our Big Government, Big Banks and Big Corporations Put us as Americans in the debt we are in now. Just fighting the wars to make them much more wealthier and still send all American work and jobs to the third World Countries. I am Wondering why you don’t understand why other World Governments don’t Like our Government? Think about this if you are another Government and you don’t Do what The USA Government,World Banks, and the Big Corporations of the Greediest of all in our World. They just come to you Nation and Blow the hell out of it tell they give in to their way,Who cares just take them out tell we control what Our Big Dishonest Government want. I am an American and I am not my Government. I Love all People of this World and I am scared of my own Government and do not trust it at all so why would any other Country’s and Governments of this World.Think about this all Politicians Elected as representattives of our Government will be and are Rich compaired to the Worlds People as well as the average American people because of all the back room deals, That no American should have to put up with.They say they represent us Big,Big Bull only them self.We are losing our Homes our Jobs our way to live and to feed our self and Families. You see if us as Americans do not wake up Our own Government will Blow the Hell out of us as well. But thats okay just keep listing to the Media that buy their way our Government tells them what to say and do because you see when we the People Of America and of the World have no jobs no food no Homes, The Media will because the are all so very Rich themselves so why would they care. You can not trust a word they say as well. The Media is not what it used to be they have no balls they are just Puppets to our Big Government,Big World Banks,Big Corporations,and the last the Big Federal Reserve.We as Americans have nothing to do with.Time to wake up Americans the World’s People are asking for all American People Help.Not only to save them but us as people of America.Vote out all the now and career Politicians that think they represent this Great Country.Only we the people can show the World we are not Our Government.

Bob,
There are Muslim nations in the middle east that hate the US to a man/woman!! Iran doesn’t hate just our government, they hate every man, woman, and child in this country, don’t make the mistake of not believing that! There are also 27 (not completely sure of that number) backpack nukes that went missing when the USSR broke up and they can not be located! We have wide open borders and all 27 of them could already be in this country. If one of them went off, who would ANY president blame?? Do we nuke Russia for losing them? Do we nuke Mexico for letting them cross their border? Or do we seal our borders now, check EVERY person entering this country, and pray that they AREN’T here? Tic toc Bob, tic toc!!!

Geez Morduin, never study history?

Did you even watch the debate last week??

wandamurline, where are you getting his voting record from? Fox news?

I think if you look at his actual voting record, you will see he is the ONLY candidate who has NEVER flip-flopped on the issues to accommodate special interests. He has earned the nickname of “Dr. No” because he has never voted for unconstitutional legislation. He is the ONLY candidate who is there for the people, not himself or his friends.

But don’t take my word for it, see his record for yourself:

http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=296

- He has never taken a government junket.
- He does not participate in the lucrative Congressional Pension Program.
- He returns a portion of his annual Congressional Office Budget every year.
- He has never voted to raise taxes.
- He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
- He voted no to the bankster bailout.
- He voted no to raising the debt ceiling and warned us against the “Super Congress” part of the legislation that resembles both an ” Enabling Act” and a “Politburo.”
- He has never voted to raise Congressional Pay.
- He never voted to increase Executive Branch Power.
- He voted against regulating the Internet
- He voted against the Iraq War and warned us against going forward with an undeclared war.”Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberty and wealth are in Jeopardy” July 10th, 2003
- He supports a non-interventionist foreign policy yet a strong defense.

Ron Paul is the only candidate for President in 2012 who actually served his country. He was a flight surgeon during Vietnam. In fact, Ron Paul’s popularity is so high among U.S. service members that the Texas Congressman’s presidential campaign has received more money from U.S. soldiers than any other candidate in the 2012 presidential race. http://bit.ly/neSk0c

- He will Reinstate The Constitution and Save The Republic
- He will END the unconstitutional FED.
- He will phase out the unconstitutional IRS beginning immediately
- He will limit Big Government in your private affairs

Way to go Erin….A lot of LIGHT need to be shone and fresh oxygen needs to be pumped into that fetid darkness and fear in the public Mind.The Doc. has the best solution for the whole World ”Trade and Friendship”

Erin, You say that Dr Paul,

Will reinstate the Constitution and save the Republic
Will end the unconstitutional Federal Reserve
Will phase out the unconstitutional IRS beginning immediately
Will limit big government in your private affairs

I know that this is what Dr Paul wants and believes in, and has stated these things many many times and I too would love to see this happen and more. Unfortunately if he wins he will only be a President, not a Dictator, so he will have to convince a bunch of other elected officials inn Congress to agree with him for this to happen and I don’t think it will. Unless you can come up with a bunch of politicians who think as Dr Paul does, then none of the above will happen, and that’s a crying shame.

exbobbie,
what do you think will happen if mid-term we vote out all we can who disagree with him? What message do you think THAT will send??

You are likely right. The Ron Paul’s first term would likely fail, though the second term, after we kick the losers to the curb, would likely succeed. By the way, we already have a jump-start in the House and will likely have one on the Senate in 2012.

The road to success is paved with failure.

You are a complete idiot.
Ron Paul said we SHOULD be in war to defend our country, but not in wars to police the world. He is against sanctions against countries as long as they don’t attack us and he is encouraging peace talk. He was explaining that Iran is not the only country wanting to have nuclear power, there are lots of countries having it including USA. NO ONE was sanctioned us for that.
About abortions, he said it’s not the government business to decide what a woman or a couple should do.
You better listen with your ears unplugged to what he says instead of spreading lies about him.

Seriously? You sound just like the libs… calling anyone who disagrees with you an idiot. Name-calling and vilifying someone for their ideas is childish and not conducive to good discussion. Furthermore, it makes you seem all the more radical… justifying some of the claims here made about Paul’s supporters.

I have listened to ron paul and he is a moron . He is probably the worst candidate in the field . If he were elected would rank with carter and obama so hope he doesn’t fool more nut cases like you.

Lil may have been insulting but Lil also spoke truth. You should listen to Ron Paul again and this time quit the spin…

Ron Paul’s claims are logical and well-thought-out.
I guess that does make him Extremist in this world of illogical, uneducated people.
I would be glad to debate his agenda point by point with anybody brave enough to put their egos on the line.

“Ron Paul said that if Iran nuked America, what would he do? and his answer was nothing.”

I think Buddy was one the right track… you should consider that it’s not the answer that was flawed, but the question which was flawed. It is common in MSM to ask very assuming rhetoric’s of Ron Paul in every debate, and he picks them apart. For example, one question in a debate was that if a little Mexican girl, who was in America illegally, went to a hospital, should she get health care? This is obviously a rhetoric which assumes that if you answer no, that you are some kind of monster… when the fact is, the answer assumes that if government doesn’t regulate and provide health care through whatever means, that such a girl wouldn’t get medical attention… when that is not necessarily the case, and simply not true. Individuals in the private sectors are more than capable of making sound moral judgments to provide care for a little Mexican girl, more than any government. So back to you’re statement on nukes… what would you prefer his answer be? “Nuke them back”? Na… the question is designed to play on ones fear in order to justify preemptive or preventive wars being conducted illegally to keep this pessimistic perceived fear from coming true… and it’s ridiculous. This is the home of the brave… not the home of the fearful.

“He is also not the anti-abortion guy you think he is…”

Only when it comes to pregnancies which are a result of rape, or endangers the life of the mother… would you deny this as morally justifiable? Besides, the man was a doctor who delivered over 1000 babies… you should do more critical thinking.

“…he is for the illegals being made citizens.”

Via the proper methods of citizenship… not by being given government social benefits despite citizenship.

ABORTION IS WRONG not matter what the circumstances are!

That may be, but the question is “Is it any of our business to dictate that decision to a mother who may very well die in childbirth?”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/12/maternal-mortality-rates-millennium-development-goals
If not for that, I would say more power to the anti-abortionists.

You put yourself in a position of deciding whose life is more important, the mother’s or the unborn child’s.
I think, right or wrong, that abortion is the mother’s decision. God can decide if she made the correct decision.

Abortion also happens in the form of negelecting to nourish every child born wolith proper nutrition and education. Where are all those so opposed to abortion but not willing to provide proper welfare for our young ones.

Riding on other peoples’ backs, About, is slavery no matter how you cloak it.
And it’s not just a moral issue. Even more people suffer under the charade of the welfare state than under the seemingly cruel state of Liberty. Socialism has been a failure throughout history for good reason. When people can’t count on keeping their own hard earned money, they work less, thus producing less which results in fewer goods to be had by those who need them. Prosperous people are generous people.

http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/libertarianism-vs-statism/

Wanda,
You need to quit taking your opinions about Ron Paul from outside sources. Here is his issues page:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/

His National Defense agenda:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/

DaveH, excellant…if every Ron Paul skeptic would take the time to read and understand his stance on the National Defense issue they would see that he isn’t an “isolationist” or even a “weak” dove.
As you’ve said over and over, we shouldn’t be the world’s policemen and potect other countries and their borders…we should concentrate on protecting our borders and the US…he’s not opposed to the idea of war when all else fails and war is the only recourse to protect the USA.

Ron Paul on Iran:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujl_sTPZPLY

Do us all a favor and stay home on election day. An ill-informed voter is way too dangerous to be out on election day. Go to a bar that morning and drink the day away and sleep it off till the next day. The country will so much better off.

Wow,Wanda. You are so full of manure!!! Those are out and out lies! He NEVER said we should do nothing if we were bombed (by anyone) and he is very pro-life, but says the states, NOT the federal government, should decide the issue, which by the way is the constitutional way. As far as illegals, he says we should take away the incentives for them coming here–like free healthcare, education, and instant citizenship for being born here. So are you that stupid or are you intentionally lying?

Well said Alexander.

A VOTE for Ron Paul and you will have Barack Obama.
A VOTE for Ron Paul and you will have more of the same.
A VOTE for Ron Paul and you will have Paul flirts with the presidential race every four years. LOSER, hehehehe!

Do conservatives know of Paul’s libertarian stand on legalization of hard drugs, prostitution and gay marriage?

A vote for Ron paul is a VOTE to destroy whats left of the United States of America, and we know Conservatives WILL NOT support him!!!!!

“Do conservatives know of Paul’s libertarian stand on legalization of hard drugs, prostitution and gay marriage?”

Yes… we certainly do. Fortunately, we are consitutional conservatives… not religious conservatives.

And yes… prohibition doesn’t work, just as it didn’t work with alcohol. As it did then, it makes things worse, not better. The War on Drugs is a failure in every way.

TML,

The facts are people like the above noted are bound on taking this once great nation down to the depths of hell, thus they would trade their personal libertys for chains without question.

Keep up the Great post, I am off to go fishing for a few weeks a well needed holiday. Later Dude.

TIME,

You were so enraged that you made multiple postings with the intent to DEMONIZE AND DISCREDIT HUMPTY DUMPTY, a typical liberal extremist.

You’re probably on some kinds of drugs yourself, bc I don’t see anything dangerous in Humpty’s statements?

A VOTE for Ron Paul and you will have Barack Obama.
A VOTE for Ron Paul and you will have more of the same.
A VOTE for Ron Paul and you will have Paul flirts with the presidential race every four years.

LOSER, hehehehe!

Do conservatives know of Paul’s libertarian stand on legalization of hard drugs, prostitution and gay marriage?

A vote for Ron Paul is a VOTE to destroy whats left of the United States of America, and we know people WILL NOT support him!!!!!

@ Humpty Dumpty. Very nice job! Your good work definitely enrages Liberal because they can’t stand being exposed. God Bless!

A vote for Ron Paul and you will have more of the same?
Obviously, Dumpty, the Drug Wars didn’t stop your supplier.
There is no other candidate with Ron’s record of staunch pro-Constitution voting.

A vote for Ron Paul will get us Obama? Maybe, but with the others we may as well be stuck with Obama.

Quote HumptyDumpty “A vote for Ron paul is a VOTE to destroy whats left of the United States of America, and we know Conservatives WILL NOT support him!!!!!”

Well, what is left? We are broke thanks to a so-called conservative named Bush. (NEOCON) Now we have our armed forces scattered all over the world thanks to NEOCONS and socialist fascists. Conservatism will not save this nation, capitalism, economy, or constitution. What is left of this nation are victims of Globalism and your NEOCON candidates are not going to save her. They are far from being conservative so you lose if you vote for them. (even if they win we lose!)

Alexander,
Neither you nor Humpty Dumpty are correct.
The MSM does just the opposite. They will push for the most pro-Government Republican candidate (not Paul).
And Paul has the best chance of drawing votes from discontented Democrats and Independents.
If you want to assure Obama’s re-election, then vote for one of the Right-Wing Big Government loving Republicans.
From Rasmussen:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/election_2012_barack_obama_42_ron_paul_41

This is interesting (pick the “view results” link):
http://2012obama.com/presidential-polls/ron-paul-vs-obama-in-2012-presidential-election/

CNN says:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/05/06/drudge-alert-ron-paul-has-best-chance-vs-obama-in-cnn-poll/

Care to elaborate? What exactly do you disagree with on Ron’s foreign policy?
Tell me what have the Militarists accomplished? Are we safer? Obviously not, or Grandma wouldn’t be getting fondled at the airport. Is the Middle East a bastion of Freedom now? Do we have fewer enemies? Is the world safer for Free Trade now?
Exactly what have we accomplished besides destroying much of the Middle East, wasting hundreds of billions of dollars, losing thousands of our soldiers lives, and maiming many more?
Please answer these questions “intelligently”.