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Obama Hints At 14th Amendment: 'The Idea Of Doing Things On My Own Is Very Tempting'

July 27, 2011 by  

Obama Hints At 14th Amendment: 'The Idea Of Doing Things On My Own Is Very Tempting'

On Monday, when President Barack Obama spoke to the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization, he made several remarks suggesting that he may have considered using the 14th Amendment to the Constitution after all.

“Now, I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own. And believe me, right now dealing with Congress — Believe me — believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you. Not just on immigration reform,” Obama said.

Obama was speaking about the difficulty passing the controversial DREAM Act, which would create a path to citizenship for illegal aliens that were brought to America as children.

The President was quick to pass off the remark as a joke, saying: “But that’s not how — that’s not how our system works.” One spectator then shouted: “Change it!”

Obama, who has previously been vocally supportive of passing the DREAM Act, went on to say: “Now, usually, as soon as I come out in favor of something, about half of Congress is immediately against it even if it was originally their idea. You noticed how that works? So I need you to keep building a movement for change outside of Washington, one that they can’t stop.”

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  • Daylo

    think he would be is NOT the way he would really be. It would be a dictatorship WORSE than Mexico because he has more money and more fire power. Grow up people. It is coming.

  • Daylo

    If LaRaza thinks things are really bad in Mexico and this is the land of opportunity, they’d better *think* again. I heard the enormous applause by the crowd. The way THEY

  • Bert Cundle

    O’ Reminds me of Tiger Woods… In a Sand Trap, Trying to get his footing, for a wedge shot to a green, with the flag close to the greens edge, & the rest of the green is all down hill…
    The reason We even have a Congress, is to keep the president from becoming a dictator!

  • lkar

    LaRaza is a civil rights group? I don’t think so. Civil NO. Rights, only if you are an American citizen. They are absolutely an advocacy group! They advocate criminal ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. This is a federal crime!

    • Bert Cundle

      [X] Right
      [ ] Wrong

    • Cawmun Cents

      We need to rally the troops.Wear”Joe Mc Carthy Was Right”shirts,for every Che tee that is sold their should be ten Mc Carthy shirts being sold.Wake up America….your demise is nigh if you do not participate.-CC.

  • mark

    Right but this is simply your belief, and it has no basis in law. There is currently no movement whatsoever in the U.S. Congress to impeach Obama because there is no legal basis for it. It is my belief that all good children should have free ice cream. But like the trial of Obama this is never going to happen. We will have an election in November 2012 to settle this. Under our system this is how we change presidents.

    • MSSouth

      Hey Mark, wake up and change your sheets! Were you dreaming about obama again!!! I hope you are being paid alot of money to write the garbage you do. Hey, why don’t you change your name to “Garbage man”?

    • Hope For American

      Mark, there are so many impeachable offences against Obama it isn’t funny – perjury, treason, and terrorism against America – just to name a few. But you’re right in one aspect, and that is that Congress can’t impeach an illegal person holding the position of usurper chief executive officer. That person has to be legal and Obama is not a legal President. He was put there by the powers that be like Soros, the Unions and the Rothchilds who control the world’s banking industry. He was purposely put into office for one reason and that reason was to quickly destroy this country to set forth the powers-that-be wishes for a New World Order. There will be no middle class – only the filthy rich and the filthy poor who will be their slaves. I feel sorry for you if you’re one of those ‘poor’ suckers.

      • Evermyrtle

        Absolutelu right you are!!!!!!!!!!

    • pegasis

      List of Obama’s Impeachable Offenses is Growing
      July 9, 2011 • 9:36AM
      Rep. Tim Scott (R-Ga.) said on July 5 that if President Obama should invoke a clause in the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution in order to bypass Congress and borrow beyond the debt limit, he would consider that an act worthy of impeachment. “This President is looking to usurp Congressional oversight to find a way to get it done without us. My position is that is an impeachable act from my perspective,” Scott said at a Tea Party-related meeting. Rep. Pete Olson (R-Tex.) later told an interviewer that Scott’s “is not a lonely voice,” and that others are also discussing impeachment.
      What Obama and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner are in fact doing, is using the threat of default, or of preventing default by using Clause 4 of the 14th Amendment, in order to protect London’s and Wall Street’s illegitimate debt. Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner have done everything in their power to oppose the Constitutional method of dealing with the debt—the restoration of Glass-Steagall—and are instead using the threat of default to ram through killer austerity, in violation of the Constitution’s commitment to the general welfare.
      This is but the latest in a long series of impeachable offenses committed by Obama:
      * Most recent is his flagrant violation of the U.S. Constitution and the War Powers Resolution by deploying U.S. armed forces and conducting war against Libya without Congressional authorization or a declaration of war. Indeed, Obama has insisted that a United Nations resolution authorizing “humanitarian intervention” is a higher authority than the United States Constitution.
      * Already in April 2009, Obama was engaging in actions to destroy the sovereignty of the United States, when, at the London G20 meeting, he agreed to actions, including the expansion of “Special Drawing Rights,” which gave the International Monetary Fund increased power over the economy of the United States and other sovereign nations.
      * Obama’s shutdown and destruction of the NASA manned space flight program, on behalf of the British, was what triggered Lyndon LaRouche’s first formal call for the impeachment of Obama, in February 2010.
      * Obama’s health-care plan, modeled on Hitler’s T-4 policy, in its scheme to deny medical care and treatment to certain categories of people, constitutes a crime against humanity under the Nuremberg Principles to which the United States is bound by law and treaty.
      * Obama’s violation of the separation of powers, by means of unilateral executive actions, in violation of U.S. law including treaty law, has exceeded even that of George W. Bush and Cheney in many respects.
      * He has continued the use of signing statements, and has made dozens of appointments of special “czars” and recess appointments, to circumvent Congressional oversight and the Senate confirmation process.
      * He has expanded domestic surveillance and wiretapping, has continued the use of abusive detentions and interrogations of prisoners taken in the “war on terror,” and he has expanded the use of targeted assassinations, including claiming the right to kill American citizens abroad without any due process.
      * He has effectively legalized torture and prisoner abuse in violation of U.S. law and treaty obligations, by directing his Justice Department to cover up hundreds of cases of abuse and torture and even deaths, from the Bush-Cheney years.

  • http://Manta Johnny Heaston

    I am so sick of the name obama. It makes methinkihavewokeupinsomethirdworldcountry Listen I tttthink something BAD is about to happen and I would hate to see that happen.SOMEONE needs to wake UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sue in Arizona

    Did anyone notice this statement: “So I need you to keep building a movement for change outside of Washington, one they can’t change.” Excuse me, for three years the outcry of the American people rejecting ObamaCare has been ignored. Like a problem child, he wants things his way and if we disagree, he simply ignores us. This is a man has no leadership ability; he is President in name only. His attitude toward our country, his disrespect for our flag and national anthem, everything he says and does, shows his lack of interest in the people or our America. There are some who are blind to what he is and will never see him differently. Pity them. But we see his ‘charisma’ is a fraud, his voice is as grating as fingernails on a blackboard, and his disregard for the Law and Constitution (which he swore to uphold) unforgivable.

    I love my country (even if it isn’t perfect), I respect the flag, get goosebumps when I hear the national anthem, and cry when I hear Taps. We can not allow this man to continue to ignore our heritage, what America really is: The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, and the Constitution. –
    I believe if Mr Obama is a true citizen of America, he should be tried and hung as a traitor; if his Birth Certificate is a lie, he should be tried and executed for espionage.

    We gave another year of his lies and mismanagement. DEAR GOD, PLEASE HELP US!

    • lkar

      Remember who he was addressing. When he says to build a movement, he means smuggle in more ILLEGAL ALIEN voters so he can win in 2012!

      • mark

        This is going to be tough as more and more states have passed Voter ID laws. Conservatives are pushing this in part to hold down the minority vote. This is strange though as it is pushing the United States toward a National ID card, once a huge bogeyman for conservatives and libertarians

      • Zdravko-K

        Explain, please, how voter ID laws “hold down” the minority vote. Legitimately registered voter/citizens should in no way be impeded. Your ACORN-inspired frauds may have a bit of difficulty, however.

      • Karolyn

        Many poor people can’t afford to get photo IDs. They may not have money for gas, have no transportation or not have money to pay DMV.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Mark Stop you are starting to get obnoxious. Look at my last name, I was born in Minnesota, recently I needed my birth certificate, I had it for $60.00 in 24 hrs.ILLEGALS ARE VOTING in our elections. This is illegal. Just as obama never showed his birth certificate for vetting he he should have never even been put on the ballot. The reason obama wants illegals receiving benefits is to curry favor so that they will vote for him. It is not racist, it is the LAW. Most of us follow the law and do not “compromise” our ideals.

      • pegasis

        Just by his statements, and the fact of who he addressed them to, PROVES he is spreading sedition, and encouraging an invasion. BOTH of which are TREASONOUS as per thye constitution!!!!!
        IMPEACH his sorry but NOW!!!!!!!!!!

      • Karolyn

        Oh! That’s what he meant! You KNOW that!

    • Lost in Paradise

      Then we need to stop the immigration of muslims and people from countries that poison the well.

    • Penny Fuentes

      Sue, God Bless You, We will prevail. Americans are steadfast and tenacious. We just have to ALERT everyone, civilly and respectfully.

    • mickey

      Karolyn, you are crazy. There is public transportation everywhere except in the country. I’m more than 10 miles to the DMV and there is no public transportation unless I walk 8 of those miles. My neighbor, however, would make sure I would get there, if necessary.

      these poor that you spout are making more money per month than I am after working for 40 years. The last I heard, these photo ID’s were either free or cost $5 bucks. That’s a $1.25 a week for one month.

  • Raggs

    Well here we go… the dictator cannot resist a opportunity to STRETCH his authority behond the consititutional limits…. Anyone surprized at this?

    If you find yourself SHOCKED oblama would sink lower than snail vomit, I have guns from mexico to sell you.

    • mark

      Dozens of U.S. gun companies, good free-market capitalists, have been selling guns to Mexico for decades. It is called capitalism, and they have been reaping big profits off all the bloodshed down there. Millions of American citizens buy drugs everyday from Mexico. This also fuels all the violence down there.

      • MSSouth

        Mark, your statement would be more correct if you replaced “Dozens of U.S. gun companies, good free-market capitalists” with your “president, DOJ, ATF”. See even you can speak the ‘truth’ with a little help. You are very welcome.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        If we legalized drugs and got rid of the DEA

      • Karolyn

        AMEN!

      • lkar

        Idiot! US gun companies cannot sell guns in Mexico. They are sold in the US and ILEGALLY smuggled (or approved by the ATF in Fast and Furious) to Mexico. Blame the lack of border security (both US and Mexico).
        Drugs cannot be sold in the US. They are ILLEGALLY smuggled into the US. Blame the lack of border security.

      • mark

        What about the millions of American citizens who spend billions every year buying illegal drugs from Mexico? Don’t they bear a huge responsiblity for the violence in Mexico? If Americans did not purchase billions of dollars of drugs every year from Mexico, the violent Mexican drug cartels could not maintain their current wealth, power, and arsenals. What is wrong with American society that millions of our citizens feel the need to medicate themselves daily with illegal drugs? And of course this has been going on for decades. If we are the greatest society on earth, why do we have so much violent crime, so many drug addicts, so many murders, so many prisons – much more per capita than any other modern industrialized country? And this is a longstanding crisis that has flourished through several presidential administrations – Democrat and Republican, liberal and conservative.

      • Vagabond

        well mark you finaly have a valid point. personaly if I had my way about it there would not be any tax dollars wasted on drug treatment programs. the only treatment would be a bullet to the head for dope dealer and addicts,

      • Penny Fuentes

        Anyone who uses, buys or sell drugs is the problem. If there were no demand we would not have the supply problem, pure economics.

      • lkar

        So your point is that the government needs to fix it? Or is it that individuals need to take responsibility for their actions?

      • Evermyrtle

        illegal drugs and illegal citizens are the reason we need a moat between us and them filled with flesh eating fish and allegators.

      • Bob

        Actually, the drug users do not bear any responsibility for the violence below the border. As a God-hating democrat (despite your claim to being a Christian, you are no Christian – no Christian would ever vote for the party of the devil’s disciple maobama, the ACLU, the baby killers, the sodomites,union gangsters, etc.) you cannot understand that God expects each of us to bear the responsibility for our own actions. Like all demoparasites you seek to pass the blame on to others. While drug users and addicts are responsible for a lot of society’s ills, only the men pulling the triggers are responsible for the violence that springs from their own greed. Actually, I am surprised you didn’t blame the guns themselves because that is a typical demoparasite trick. Also, as loathsome as you are, this is not out of hate but out of an attempt to shine the light on your abysmal darkness and free you from the disease of lieberalism, bringing you to the light of God’s Truth (that truth being that all democrats serve satan).

      • Karolyn

        Penny – There will ALWAYS be demand for drugs, of which alcohol is one. I believe that getting high has been around since the caveman first found a leaf that he chewed that made him feel good.

      • Karolyn

        Vagabond – That is a sick statement. You have had no alcoholism or drug addiction in your family or extended family? If not, you are a rare individual but have no right to judge addicts. Even if you don’t drink, I’m sure you’re not pure as the driven snow. (Well that’s proved by your sick comment.)

      • Karolyn

        mark – “Judge not lest ye be judged.” Drug addicts and alcoholics are people too; and the war on drugs just peretuates violence. STOP THE WAR ON DRUGS!

      • mark

        Bob, all democrats or demoparasites, serve Satan? How open-minded of you. According to recent polls some 40% of the U.S. military, mostly in the lower ranks vote Democrat. So 40% of our military serve Satan? My Dad served in the Second World War and Korea and is a life-long Democrat – and union member. Another worshipper of Satan? How wonderful it must be to have God on your side, speaking at your very shoulder and pointing out all the devils around you.

      • mark

        American gun companies sell weapons not only to Mexico but to virtually every country on earth – and most of it is perfectly legal. Global U.S. gun exports are one of our few flourising industries right now – and have been for decades.

      • lkar

        They sell guns to Mexico, not in Mexico. Blame the government of Mexico not the companies! What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand?

  • rockin on

    If Obama is a socialist, then he is FOR keeping social security and medicare for seniors. Social Security and Senior Obamedicare are government giveaways to people who can’t support themselves. Classic socialism. You couldn’t pass a freshman political science or philosophy course.

    • mark

      OK but if Obama is a socialist for keeping Social Security and Medicare for seniors, then Presidents Nixon, Reagan, Ford, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush were also socialists since they did the same thing. Every U.S. president since 1935 has maintained Social Security for seniors, and every president since 1965 have done the same with Medicare.

      • Penny Fuentes

        No one is saying obama is socialist because of Social Security and Medicare. He is a socialist because he wants to take money from one and give to another. He wants to regulate the air you breathe, the food you eat, and anything you want to say or do.

      • mark

        Both food and clean air regulations have been in effect for many years through many presidencies. The Pure Food and Drug Act was passed in 1906 and has been supplemented by various adminstrations. Clean air regulations went into effect in the 1960s and 1970s and have been in effect ever since. If you don’t want any of this regulation, fine, but you cannot blame it solely on Pres. Obama.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Mark you are not getting it, that was sarcasm. If this is not stopped, you are going to wake up and feel as if you have been hit in the face, I truly feel sorry for you- As they say” Useful Idiots”.

      • Elevenarrows

        Mark, one shouldn’t oversimplify the issues of social insecurity and medicare as being allowed to continue or not based solely on presidential whims. Those programs exist or not based on congressional action or inaction to remove them.

    • MSSouth

      Rockin, you need to roll on down the socialist road. HE ain’t ‘giving’ the elderly people anything!!! That is their money, collected (see taken) from them during their productive days. They had NO CHOICE in paying into this system.

      • mark

        Current seniors receive much more in Social Security benefits than they ever paid into the system. This will not be true for future recipients who will pay more into it than they will ever receive, if the system even survives for their retirement. Current workers who contribute into the system are getting screwed, but current recipients are doing well considering what they receive in benefits versus what they paid into the system.

      • Vagabond

        mark how much has the wellfare deadbeats paid into the wellfare system??

      • lkar

        Exactly. Now take that thought and couple it to the other posts of yours. The government should have kept this as a seperate trust fund and not part of the general fund. The government should have left this as a stand alone entity or even privatized it. People pay into (collections or stealing whatever you want to call it) and their money begins to work through investments and capital. Even though they payed in less, their trust fund grew (even if it was only at the rate of GDP growth). Some years would be good, some would be bad. Then imagine only those that paid into it can collect. This is what is pissing people off! The government took the money and left the account with IOUs. On top of that, it is paying out to people who did not put into it. This is a financial disaster. Bernie Madoff would be proud of this scam.

      • mark

        Right, I agree. But this isn’t Obama’s fault, this scam has been going on since 1935. There were a helluva alot of other presidents and Congresses in that time span.

      • lkar

        I agree that it is not Obama’s fault. But he is using it as a scare tactic for political gain. He is not addressing the issue, just as Bush did not, Clinton did not, ect.

      • Evermyrtle

        mark so smart, my late husband worked and paid social security and died while still employed. I worked many years and paid social security and there is no chance I will ever get all of our money back. If you do not collect SS now when your turn comes you will be just like the rest of us, you will be right there with hands out, ready to grab every possible cent!!!

      • mark

        Oh for sure! And sincere sympathy for the tragedy in your family. But this does not change the fact that the majority of current social security recipients will receive much more in benefits than they ever paid into the system. We cannot be sure if this will be true for future beneficiaries or even if the system will still be around for them given the current demographics, deficits, etc.

      • Bob Marshall

        Where did you get your information? I would like to know because Social Security one year after i retired at 66 sent me two letters. One asking for $2000 they forgot to take out and the second informing my benefits would be decreased by $200 monthly.i called and asked would those who retired in 66 get back what we put into the system for 48 years.Her answer was the people recieving Social Security benefits up to 2010 would get more but after 2010 it would be less each year. So, again where did you get your information? Any information you have on Medicare also would be helpful since they raised the amount i pay monthly by $126.00.

      • Bob

        Mark: I will make this simple because you have proven that you are not too bright. People should get more out of the system than what they paid in because the money should have been invested wisely at a good interest rate and then used only for retirement. But, that didn’t happen because the democrats used it to reward deadbeats who found it easier to go on disability than to work. They also used it to make up budget shortfalls caused by welfare spending and other democrat vote buying schemes. The fact is, if the democrats hadn’t used SS to buy the votes of worthless people such as yourself, the average retiree would be rolling in dough. But, that didn’t happen and now many seniors are living at poverty level. I would say that the democrats should be ashamed of what they have done, but as I have said before, democrats are incapable of feeling shame.

      • mark

        No one is a worthless person, Bob, at least not to me, as I am a Christian. As such I even love you Bob, but back to your comments. It was not just Democrats who made changes in the system to help those who got disablity pensions from SSI it was also numerous Republican Congressmen and presidents. All presidential administrations, conservative and liberal have used SS surpluses to make their deficits lower. This is not something that just Democrats did, Nixon, Ronald Reagan and both Bushes did the same. As for the “invested” constributions, only the surpluses were ever “invested” i.e. put into treasury notes, gov’t I.O.U.s, pieces of paper that say the federal gov’t will pay this back with interest someday. Whether the gov’t will ever do so is questionable given our current deficits and the willingness of the Tea Party to default. The vast bulk or SSI contributions were and are never invested, they go from current workers’ paychecks directly into current beneficiaries SS checks. They are not invested in anything. Only the surpluses, which ended this year, are. That is why conservative critics and libertarians rightly call SS a Ponzi Scheme, which it is, in many aspects. But even taking into effect the interest rates paid on savings over the last forty years current seniors are getting a bargain on SSI that future seniors will in all likeliehood never enjoy. I also agree with you that many Americans have taken advantage of the disability SSI pensions. They even receive them for alcoholism and drug addiction. Some people who collect disablity SSI pensions even continue to work under the table. They in effect are “beating the system” as do many individuals on city, state, and federal gov’t disablity pensions, even a small amount of individuals on veteran disability pensions. I agree we should do a better job prosecuting these abusers but good luck if you think you can ever come up with a pension or benefit system that crafty individuals and unscrupulous doctors cannot figure out how to game. These individuals should have their pensions removed and they should be punished with imprisonment and repayment to the taxpayers. But I do not agree that they are worthless people.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Bob, let’s not call mark dumb he most likely is not, but like quite a few people they have shall we say ” the wool pulled over their eyes”, we are just saying Mark, No one in this history of our country has done MORE HARM than obama.

      • mark

        Dear Penny, according to Bob Livingston the author of much of this blog, Abraham Lincoln was the president who did the most harm to the United States, though I disagree strongly on this and feel he was one of our greatest presidents. Conservatives and libertarians also consider FDR as a horrible president for creating the New Deal entitlement system. Again I would strongly disagree with this. Other Americans consider Richard Nixon, who resigned in disgrace and to avoid certain impeachment, a far worse and more damaging president than Obama. President Grant 1869-1877 oversaw one of the most corrupt presidential administration in U.S. history though most historians do not consider him to have been personally corrupt. So Obama has many competitors. And don’t forget if the economy starts to recover next year and Obama wins a second term, his full 8 years in office may look much better than his first 2 and a half. Ronald Reagan had a terrible first 2 and a half years in office before the economy started to recover and went from 10.8% unemployment in early 1983 to 7.4% unemployment in November 1984 when he won a big reelection victory.

      • mickey

        Yeah, Mark, SSA was an insurance policy based on actuary tables. In the late 70′s, a person was expected to die at retirement plus 6 months. Pay a lifetime, no interest, and collect for 6 months. A lucrative business. Than came lifestyle changes (and lest we forget the unions pushing 30 and out) that extended benefits but also created a big slush fund which the government used to add welfare to the program.

        Face it, the government stole the money, the interest, and created a Ponzi Scheme–which in private industry, people are jailed for.

        Check out “anti-deficiency violation” and see what happened to the funds. Any government official charged with this?

        How many lawyers and bankers have violated “trust” agreements and gone to jail (not enough)? SSA had a “trust fund” accounting line–it was not to be violated. Johnson changed that.

        Now this is the equivalent of putting money in the bank for 40 years and at the end of those 40 years one wants to buy a cadillac and decides to withdraw funds. Upon going to the bank, the banker says, sorry but you can only afford a VW so here’s your money for the VW.

        In the 70′s, it was not unusual for retirees to have SSA checks of $2000 or $3000 dollars, based on their earnings. Now the basic benefit is about $1000. Go figure what happened to the funds.

    • Daylo

      I beg to differ with almost everything you say.

      Social Security, first of all is not a “socialist” program. It is NOT an entitlement either, as your senators and congress would like you to think. This money was taken from EVERYONE’s pay check. It was supposed to be INVESTED for us BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT and over the years as we paid into it, there should have been absolutely NO PROBLEM with receiving OUR money back (some will say this is because people live longer). Well investments have gone up as well. ThE LARGER RETURN ON INVESTMENT should have countered the longer lives and better medicine. What happens to all of the money that was put into the system from individuals who die after working for 20, 30 and 40 years, but never retire? The governemnt gets ALL of this money back to be reinvested. You or your family will never see one red cent of money put into a system from people who die at a younger age, especially if all members in the household continue to work. The government does NOT talk about that, though. They continue to make you, the taxpayer guilty for expecting a return on the monies you have been paying into social security, calling it an entitlement, such as welfare. The monies paid into Social Security are not taxes, as they government has considered them to be, but they are supposed to be an investment for protection in our later years. Now, the SS fund has been dipped into numerous times and that makes the government complain even louder that this is an entitlement.

      It is the dictator who would like us to believe that we are receiving government money, when in fact it is our own money, paid to the government by anyone who actually works.

      • Elevenarrows

        Daylo, I’m 44 and therefore, not an expert on social insecurity, but correct me if I am wrong: spouses do receive “one red cent” if their spouse dies, don’t they? I thought there is a tiny, insulting check sent to the family (wife and kids) if the spouse dies.????

      • ValDM

        Let me see if I can explain this. Me dad died when he was 57. Paid into SS since he was 14…43 yrs. My mom was too young to draw his SS. She did, however, receive $255 “burial” compensation.

        Later, my mom re-married. When that husband expired, she was old enough to draw HIS SS & my dad’s SS was NEVER touched.

      • Elevenarrows

        ValDM,
        So what happens if my husband (God forbid) dies and I am 44 with 9 children still at home? Do I receive anything from all the money he paid in over the years? When I try to read the “statements” the SS administration sends from time-to-time, they imply I would receive a certain amount per minor child at home plus some for me.

        Also, am I absolutely required to join Medicare at a certain age? I had a doctor tell me she would not accept my mother as a patient because she is on medicare. I assured the doctor my mother would pay with cash out of her own pocket and the doctor still refused to treat her because she said since she doesn’t treat medicare patients, she legally cannot even treat anyone of medicare age. Am I really to believe that celebrities with deep pockets aren’t able to go to whoever they want for treatment even once they are “of medicare age”…whatever age that is?!

        Anyone who can clarify this for me…?

      • ValDM

        E arrows,

        You would receive a monthly stipend per child under 18. I don’t know about survivor’s benefits (if you pay for medicare), but I receive SS for disability (paraplegic), pay for medicare & can’t use it because I’m too young (barely).

      • ValDM

        I had to re-read your post to get everything you said. You would only get your children’s claim on SS……there would be nothing for you as you are old/young enough to earn a living.

        As for the Dr. that said she was legally prevented from treating your mother even if she paid cash, this sounds like a load of bushwa to me. I have been uninsured & the specialist I see has offered me a discount on services, but I must pay cash at the time services are delivered. But, if I didn’t have private insurance, it’s a lead-pipe cinch I would be suckin’ hind teat as some services I receive are not run-of-the-mill Dr. visits.

      • Karolyn

        Elevanarrows – That is one weird doctor! I need to check that out myself. I will turn 65 in February, and I am wondering if Medicare is mandatory.

      • Karolyn

        If a spouse’s Social Security is more than what the surviving spouse would get in SS, at 62 (or 65) they can collect on the spouse, even if they are/were divorced, as long as they were married at least 10 years.

      • mickey

        Umm she should have received money for any minor children. At age 60, she should have received 1/2 your dad’s entitlement. If she remarried before age 60, she lost it. However, once she was eligble, she should have received the higher of the two benefits, husband one or husband two.

        But I will agree. My spouse died after paying 30 years, age 48. It was lost to none other than welfare. Had I been able to collect, age 60 or 62, I would have $1000 more a month than I have now.

      • Karolyn

        Well, I just found out that it is not mandatory.

      • Jeep

        Stop, stop, stop. The Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program (Social Security) is a ponzi scheme, plain and simple. Just read the title. It was always intended to redistribute wealth. The plan paid out it’s first check the month it was enacted. How can that be, if it was supposed to collect money now and give it back later? It is a socialist idea and you have been conditioned to believe that it is only designed to pay you back for your “investment”. It is designed to take money from the middle class and redistribute it to the poor. Oh yeah, and you should get a small stipend when you get old to recompence your compliance.

    • Karolyn

      rockin – “Social Security and Senior Obamedicare are government giveaways to people who can’t support themselves.”

      Not true at all!

      • mickey

        Excuse me, you must be very young. It was an insurance policy payable upon an event, premiums paid for a specific purpose, death or disability, for survivors. SSI was started in the late 70′s, Supplemental Security Income for those who didn’t have enough quarters to qualify for SSA. SSI was a complement to welfare–which was a state program the fed became to fund out of SSA funds.

  • http://Yahoo Shawneebiker

    All seniors need to wake up. This FRAUD is taking away our Social Security and Veterans Benefits so if we can’t provide for ourselves it’s the same as putting us in the ovens like HItler!! Everyone needs to march on Washington and demand this moron be impeached. He’s ruining this country alo0ng with his Democratic Cronies. I want a free country for my granchildren and yours. We need to act now and get him out. We can’t wait until 1012. He is giving all these illeagles a free ride (Tacoma Washington) and my grandparents had to prove they wanted to be U S Citizens. He’s forcing this country into a third world situation so he can become a first class DICTATOR> WAKE UP NOW.

    • mark

      Obama has not taken away one cent in Social Security and Veteran benefits from any U.S. citizen. All recipients of these benefits have received every single check due to them from January 2009 to the present. This is just irrational fear mongering. By the way, many of the participants of this website feel that anyone who receives money from the federal gov’t is a parasite sucking the blood from hard-working tax payers. I DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THIS BELIEF. Even if current seniors do draw much more money than they ever paid into the Social Security system, I want them to get the current amounts they receive – and more in the future. And veterans should definitely receive all their benefits regardless of what they paid into the system. But lots on this blog think anyone who gets federal money is a thief and a bum. Thank God, they are not a majority of the American People.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Mark, obama has taken away from Social Security. In obama care, 500 miliion has been taken out. His death panel ideaology is starting in effect as we speak. My aunt was just denied a lung transplant because she is “too Old” she is only 68….

      • Evermyrtle

        Don’t worry about Mark, the enemy has him ‘snowed’.

      • mark

        The $500 million you are talking about is not being removed from Social Security. These are cutbacks in Medicare program over ten years and do not start until 2014. If the Tea Party reps have their way in Congress much higher cuts are coming down the pike than anything Obama has called for. Obama is fighting additional cuts in Medicare.

      • Penny Fuentes

        mark, 2014 is only 16 mos. away, You can whitewash it anyway you want. They are cuts, They have taken money away from medicare, not to be replaced.

      • Brad

        Mark,

        You might want to read this report about the status of SS and Medicare, where as a 500 million cut in Medicare is just a drop in the bucket when said program spends billions.

        http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/index.html

      • Elevenarrows

        Mark, can you show me where the Constitution allows for what you support? Even if something seems like a charitable gesture, it must still be constitutional. I suspect you may be a Democrat…they have a really difficult time placing the constitution above their programs.

      • Jeep

        mark, you are just plain wrong. There may be a very small minority that would advocate your opinion. But, most Conservatives understand that first, our veterans earned whatever they receive, and second, that anything a citizen put into the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program (popularly called Social Security) is their money and the govt has an obligation to repay that money. We also understand that the SS ponzi scheme would be illegal in the private sector. We also understand that Medicare has been the source for billions of lost dollars through fraud, waste and abuse. Please, try to keep your feet on the ground, and your head out of the clouds.

      • ValDM

        REALLY?????????? mark, anyone on SS has been robbed of their benefits due to no COLA for 3 yrs, due to the printing presses never shutting down (inflation, just in case you aren’t bright enough to figure it out), due to Drs. not taking anymore Medicare patients (because Medicare pmts have been reduced significantly), due to “new taxes”; ie: raised taxes (property, sales, new fees, etc.). You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, but I suspect you’re too young to actually have any empirical data (living) to inform you.

      • mark

        The COLA provision has been in place long before Obama’s election. The COLA is increased only if the way the gov’t defines inflation is above 2%. This is why seniors have not gotten a raise in the last couple of years. I agree with you completlely that the way the gov’t figures inflation is wrong, their index for instance does not take into account food and energy which are big expenses. But this formula was established long before Obama became president. Under Obama no seniors checks have been cut. I stand by that and have living examples, my parents. They have no received a COLA raise, but their checks have also NOT been cut.

      • ValDM

        Next year our medicare obligations, per person will go up. So without a Cola plus an increased expenditure on medicare…….that’s not a cut?

      • Evermyrtle

        There is one tinybright spot in the clouds, if Mark and a few others, are on Medicare, and SS this will slap them, just as hard as it does us and if he isn’t he probably not get anything out of what he is paying in right now.

  • Ronald Bell

    “Now, I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own. And believe me, right now dealing with Congress — Believe me — believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you. Not just on immigration reform,” Obama said.

    Yeah the Communist Party, the Socialist Party The Democrat Party and the LA RAZA Party Islamic Party, “Progressive” Party, just to name a few…. OBAMAGOTTAGO

  • Bob

    Maobama has no sense of shame; he will pander to anyone, including those who want to turn America into another third world, hispanic cesspool. Look at the democrat party and what do you see? You see a coalition of baby killers, welfare recipients, sodomites, union gangsters, feminists, affirmative action freeloaders, drive by shooters, and government loafers. In short, you see the slime at the bottom of the human barrel. Does this seem like the recipe for success as a nation?

    • Vagabond

      Bob you summed it up very well and very accuratly too, thank you,

    • just little ole me

      Lets add black and republican killers. The democrats started the Ku Klux Klan see link below. Progressives repress the history so that black people learn to hate whites and see themselves as inferior. Black people have a rich and wonderful patriotic history as well. Many great black men who fought for our freedom and held government positions. They are taught it is just recent that they have been given this ability. This is coming from a white mother who is proud of all great men and women no matter their color. If they are descent honest human beings they are great in my eyes.

      http://www.davidbarton.org/2010/06/11/the-ku-klux-klan-by-david-barton-2/

      There are documents to prove it and the democrats basically voted against the civil right bills. It only went through because of the republicans and now the blacks are taught republicans did the evil against them and republicans are their enemy. When will the schools get history right, NEVER. That is why my girls learn at home.

      • just little ole me

        Sorry at the beginning of my comment it sounded like I was saying blacks and republicans were killers. I was referring to the democrats also killing blacks and republicans. This was meant to be a comment to the one who referred democrats being baby killers and so forth. They were right on. Unfortunately there are some republicans who also supported baby killing. I consider myself more as recently converted to being an independent/bordering libertarian.

      • Evermyrtle

        just little…. both post are very good and true, don’t let up, keep fighting.

      • Penny Fuentes

        David Barton- Wallbuliders great site.

  • Brad

    If Ohmama uses the 14th Amendment to currcumvent the US congress and increase the debt ceiling on his own, that’s an immediate impeachable offence. No President has the power to currcumvent congress and I only hope he’s not that stupid/crazy to do just that so he and his cronies can continue there spending us down the road to oblivian.

    • Former Walmart person

      LOL, which idealistic planet are you from? Obama waged war in Libya without congress. People have died in Libya thanks to Obama’s orders. The President is the true conduit of power in this country. Our congress is pretty much ceremonial.

      • Brad

        Earth Baby, that’s the planet I’m from! As for the war powers act, it’s clear Ohmama violated it allowing our armed forces under the control of united nations officers to strike at Libyia. In my opinion it also violates his oath of office and he currumvented congress and should be impeached. So what is congress doing about it, and I do agree with you, dam nothing, the RATS in congress wouldn’t cut the throat of one of their own, they want to give him a medal, oops the Nobel Prize committee has already done that.

    • Elevenarrows

      But, Brad, he’s been doing that already. I just wrote Senator Jim DeMint again this morning asking why Congress turns a blind eye to his countless acts of treason.

      • Brad

        Elevenarrows,

        Jim Demint is only one member of congress, its going to take the collective to impeach this imposter in chief. With the senate firmly in the rats hands nothing will be done. Now we have some in the black caucous telling Ohmama to invoke the 14th amendment and raise the debt ceiling on his own, that’s only if congress hasn’t voted on the new spending measures both houses have agreed upon. The latest rumor running around the net is, Ohmama will veto any bill that hits his desk since it doesn’t contain what he wants, a blank check to spend more money we don’t have.

  • David in MA

    The provisions of the 14th Amendment are a directive to Congress, not to a president. If obozo tries to circumvent Congress and Congress does not impeach, America will, at that time, become a dictatorship third world country. EXACTLY what the obozo agenda is seeking.
    Impeachment is not the desired option, proving ineligability to the requirements of the Constitution is the direction Congress must take to remove the illegal holder of the office of president. IF Congress is dragging it’s feet in the mistaken belief it is somehow preserving the integrety of the office of the president they are wrong. The office of the presidency and the intregity of Congress would be better served if they remove this illegal holder of the presidency. Otherwise America will become a third world nation in a islamic/socialism with all the undiserable things that go with such a system.

    • Elevenarrows

      David, “…otherwise America will become a 3rd world nation in an islamic/socialism with all the undesirable things that go with such a system”…not the least of which would be Sharia law which some of our judges seem open to. Scary thought….

      • Evermyrtle

        That is exactly where we are headed unless someone does something
        drastic, and soon.

  • s c

    You have to give Herr Obummer ‘credit’ for one thing, folks. That is, we’re not YET required to extend an arm and say “sig heil.” Not yet, that is.
    But, he’s working on that.
    Hitler and all of his advisors would have a hard time explaining the new face of Nazism in America. It’s so frustrating being proud and humiliated at the same time.
    Obviously, I have no use for Obummer. At the same time, I question the mentality of those who support him and think he’s the ‘greatest’ (greatest what?). How many types of pills do those useful idiots take every day?
    The only difference between Bubba Clinton and Bubba/Herr Obama is in the FACT that Clinton said that not too long ago, Obama would have been serving Clinton his coffee.
    It would be interesting to see which has the biggest ego. I suspect that an impartial flunky would have to take care of the coffee issue (an extreme high salary, of course, would go with that “job”). Who says jobs can’t be created in America?

    • rockin on

      S C, do you know anything about history? Nazis and socialists were bitter enemies. Now which do want to accuse Obama of being, because he cannot be both!

      • allioo89

        how about MARXIST is that clear enough LOOK it up use fact check it will make it very clear for you who REALLY REALLY REALLY wants to support barack even though you probably cant find a lodgical reason too. keep trying

      • tweezel

        No, Nazis and COMMUNISTS were bitter enemies. The Nazi party was the “National Socialist” party. Better check your history!

      • s c

        R, tell your history ‘teacher’ to stuff it. You’re far too fond of labels and inaccurate definitions. In the end, there was damned little difference between Hitler and Stalin. The DIFFERENCE was in the label that people use to describe those world-class LOSERS.
        If you really care, watch Obummer closely, and see how many shared similarities crop up in his behavior. After a while, you’ll see Hitler, Stalin and Obummer all have WAY TOO MUCH in common for it to be a coincidence. Your history teacher is a glorified ‘instructor’ – NOT a teacher. Wake up!

      • Evermyrtle

        AMEN AND AMEN, YOU GITEM!!!

      • lkar

        Rockin, do you know what the term NAZI stands for? I think the Germans and the Russians didn’t like each other. It was not their ideology.

      • Penny Fuentes

        rockin on, if you have been educated in this country since the turn of this century you have most likely been a victim of REVISIONIST history. Progressives had decided that they needed to revise history to their stipulations. They have tried to make our founding fathers sound like idiots, and glorify idiots in history, such as Roosevelt, Wilson, and Roosevelt making them into heros… We had a moron muslim insist on taking his oath on “jeffersons” quran in the Minnesota congress. Jeffersons “quaran” was his way to learn about the ENEMY which we were fighting even at that time. He wanted find out what Muslims reading , that we could USE against them. This is an example of Revisionist history!

      • Evermyrtle

        Makes you wonder, how these ‘up-to-snuff’ individuals would do if their only mode of travel was walk, ride a mule/horse, or in a wagon, where the best mode of heat available was a fire place and cooking on a wood stove, like these ‘excused olde time people’. They would have starved to death most likely. If that electro magnatic blanket thing ever occurs, I guess they and we will find out how we would manage, and just what those people back then accomplihed.

    • Elevenarrows

      Another difference you failed to mention, SC, is that as far as we know, Obama’s back room deals involve sleazy negotiations…while Clinton’s involved…sleazy sex. At least Clinton’s harmed fewer people, although I am not condoning his actions.

      • Evermyrtle

        Don’t worry about Elevenarrows, there is much too much wrong there to list it all. We have to tackle one at a time, or as much as we can handle, not all at once.

  • JH

    The main difference, my friend, is that he is not showing up at Stormfront, Amren or Tea Bagger conferences and encouraging those groups to push forward with their philosophies and agendas. He is certainly not offering up any tacit support for these groups as with La Raza.

    • Jeep

      So, people who work at tea factories, the “Tea Baggers”, have their own lobby? Wow…what about others that work in the tea trade, like tea shippers and leaf pickers, do they have their own lobby too? Why don’t the shippers and pickers get with the baggers? Wouldn’t that make for a stronger lobby?

      • Evermyrtle

        Jeep, do you have something against the teapartyers? They are doing simular to the Muslims, except we are the Christian at work. The Muslims ar fighting for our souls, to turn us against GOD and country. You are doing a superb job, too, but you won’t win.

      • Jeep

        Evermyrtle, WTF? From your post I cannot understand your position. Are you for the Tea Party movement, or against it? I am a strong Conservative in favor of limited govt, lower taxes, and a return to Constitutional principles. Uhhh, you know, a Tea Party Conservative. Or, is it that you have a hard time with sarcasm?

      • Evermyrtle

        Jeep, I am a teaparty person and 200% conservative. The simularity betwee us and the Muslims, we are working for what we believe, no other simularity. Our cause is to save the USA. The Muslims are working to consume the USA. Sorry, I did not make my post understandable!!!

      • Penny Fuentes

        Jeep, don’t get upset with evermyrtle, your post sounded as if you were making fun of the Tea Pary to some extent. Glad to see you on board.

      • Jeep

        Evermrytle, I suppose what I thought was “dripping sarcasm” was just a little too ambiguous. Honestly, I thought it was pretty funny and clever. Next time I’ll be sure to clarify myself!

      • Jeep

        BTW, I was getting a little tired of being called a “bagger” by people not fit to shine my shoes. So, I decided to just ignore any comment led by the use of “tea bagger” as a derogatory statement. These are the same people who claim such compassion and would quickly denounce derogatory terms for blacks, gays and any other “group”. But, somehow they think it’s okay to deride Conservatives and disparage thier character with malicious intent. It just goes to show that anyone using that term cannot be trusted and thier character is flawed.

      • Penny Fuentes

        I don’t know but I think I’d rather be called a tea-bagger than racist.LOL, considering I sent a teabag to obama the slug with my name on it.

      • Jeep

        OMG, That is way too funny! ROFLMAO!

  • Ivan

    The only things getting done in Washington seem to be getting done in back rooms. I think that this is the case because no public discussion can be had without prison sentences. Our legislators and their lobbyist sponsors have completely corrupted our system of government. No law should be enacted, but by the signing of a law passed by the Full Congress. A “gang” of 6 or a commision of 12 is much easier to sway with the promise of payoffs than the entire body of congress.
    A few short years ago, as a US senator, Barak Obama derided the republicans for raising the debt limit, as he should have. How would Obama have felt then if talk of using the 14th Amendment had been voiced?Now that he is the benefactor of the “free cash” he wants more of it. I don’t know what would happen if the debt limit were not increased. I don’t believe that our government does either. I do believe that it would depend largely on the actions taken to correct the problems that our past and current administrations have gotten us into. Difficult times would probably ensue. It would not be the first time that we have seen this. We lived through the Carter years.
    WE need to break the cycle of tyranical power in Washington that takes from the rich and gives to the poor. A system that encourages mediocrity in education will not help America remain great. I don’t believe that keeping America strong is in Obamas plan. I think that quite the opposite is the case. Impeach him now!

    • rockin on

      Ivan, you were making sense until you ignored the numbers and said America takes from the rich and gives to the poor. First, the Robin Hood and Jesus myths generally hold that this would be a good thing. Second, the government takes from the middle class and gives it to the rich and poor. Money only trickles up to the rich. Some entitlements come down to the poor, but that is nothing compared to the loopholes that allow millions of dollars to be sucked out of the American economy by the rich. I believe that Social Security and Medicare should be cut off NOW to citizens above a certain level of net-worth. Also, get rid of any tax credits that allow the poor to get tax refunds greater than what they paid in. Fix the freakin’ loopholes for the rich next. Eliminate FEMA altogether and make states deal with disaster on a local level. Just subsidizing the trailer making business with that crap. Oh yea, the founding fathers meant Catholic or Protestant by “Freedom of religion.” They never could have imagined that exotic Muhammadins would be coming across the sea or through the air to our shores.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Considering that 50% of the people in America don’t pay taxes your argument is moot.

      • Elevenarrows

        No kidding, Rockin On. We watch every year while people get $8000+ tax refunds while we pay in thousands. We’ve had to mortgage the house just to pay taxes before. It makes me sick that many Americans can’t wait for tax time so they can get a nice check while my family DREADS tax time because it literally takes food off the table and shoes off the kids’ feet.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Exactly, Since obamas annointment Our family income has gone down, down, down. I have had to take a blowtorch to my budget and finances, unlike the government, the rest of us have to balance a budget and live within our means. It wont be forever, but boy is it funny what we can get used to….

      • Evermyrtle

        I can tll you one thing, Sugar. There are a lot of us in that boat, beating our brains out to try to make ends meet and things promise to get a lot worse before they get any better, if ever.

      • Jeep

        So, let me get this straight…you would deny Constitutional protection to someone because of their money? So, what’s next? Deny protection based on…what? Race? Religion? When you advocate that the “rich” do not “deserve” SS benefits or Medicare you ARE denying a “class” of people equal protection. A very communist ideal, don’t you think? Well, you would probably get along well with Stalin, Mao, Chavez, et al.

      • JC

        Exactly!

  • skippy

    Oh please….if he starts ‘changing laws on his own’…wow, really??? How soon was it that he will be unemployed??? I really, really do not think he needs to be changing ANY law on his own.

    • Penny Fuentes

      Skippy, is already changing things on his own using a process called “Executive Order”. Read Blacklisted by History and you will see that their are alot of communists buried inside our government. Not only did Sen.Joseph McCarthy recognize this,so did Gen.McArthur Who stated that the enemy we had to worry about was the the enemy in the world against us , but rather the enemy within.

      • http://www.giftsbyprovintech.com IMAGIFTS

        - yes Penney we’re dealing here with the enemy within … all need to read the book “The Enemy within” published this past decade … Michael was actually right on all points including his latest book “trickled up poverty” … looking back things were happening at the same time as he wrote his book(s) but it didn’t appear so to you because they were 3-6 yrs in the making before it would become sort of obivous to you …. listen to those WHO see what’s going on …. not those who lie to you!

      • Walt

        So True Penny,

        There are at least 70 current members of Congress, who could in my opinion be classified as “the enemy within”. They are openly declared members of the DSA (Democratic Socialist of America),the principle U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. Their website is:

        http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html

        Their 7 principles are:

        Dignified Work
        Environmental Justice
        Economic Redistribution
        Democratic Participation
        Community Enpowerment
        Global Non-Violence
        Social Justice

        All new soft-core buzzwords for vintage communist principles.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Thank You Walt, the more we talk and tell others of things going on the more everyone learns. This is wonderful discourse.

      • Karolyn

        Walt – You have something against all of those attributes?

      • Penny Fuentes

        The are code words, they are not attributes.

      • mickey

        Gosh, Karolyn, you might want to see what the results are of their agenda. Redistribution of wealth, how many are on welfare in their districts? Most of the list are blacks and how well are their districts fairing? We’ve gone from blacks owning their own businesses to welfare for all. Up from 10% to about 40%?

        A good job? Try looking at the support of illegals working knee deep in chicken poop. Illegals living 20 to a household? Yep, what I call right up there with DSA goals.

        BTW, those jobs now held by illegals were once held by legals. Ask them how they feel about being replaced. Remember, many legals were from South of the border.

      • Evermyrtle

        You are right and I remember Joe McCartney very well. These blind people broke his heart and to day they can see he was 100% even though they probably will not admit it, even if they remember him. We still have the same problem, today. The evil in our government is beyond measure and so many people are still too blind to see it or simply turning a blind eye.

    • http://www.swisskincare.com IMAGIFTS

      skippy … he’s already done so more than once… congress nor the senate have worked on the stimulus or the healthcare bill … the progressive cronies powered by the SEIU did those … and the reason why the stupid comment was made “we need to pass it to know what’s in it” came from … wouldn’t you 1) know what you wrote 2) need to read before you pass a law? EXCEPT for the conservative media and the fair & balance media we would not yet know what was in that bill! Libya is another instance where he didn’t ask for congressional approval …. how many do you think voted for obama (lower caps on purpose) in 2008 didn’t have the right to vote? why they don’t want ID’s to vote (I’m sure it is now encryted whether you are a US Citizen (had to bring the paper to do so – before it was the green card for 25 yrs)… that is why progressives in places of power is also a bad idea (governors, mayors etc…)?

      • Penny Fuentes

        You have said a mouthful, Now let’s just hope it gets thru to some of the people who need to hear it.

      • Evermyrtle

        Yes, indeed!!!!

  • Penny Fuentes

    Everyone please read” Blacklisted by History” the story of Joe McCarthy to show what we are up against trying to get rid of our corrupt government which does not stop with obama, hillary clinton is right in with socialists wanting to destroy this country and install a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

    • http://www.bacchuswinecellars.com IMAGIFTS

      Yes Penny that is true about hillary … however hitting her hard would not be a problem … we would not be “told” we’re racist etc… and yes about chavez … when did you figure it out right away or within the last 2 yrs? I think you are a visionary and had it all figured it out like us?

      • Penny Fuentes

        I am just An American, such as yourself, just as the Japanese learned in WWII, WE are a “sleeping Giant” and should not be messed with! I have a confession, I didn’t want to vote for McCain the Rino, so I thought of voting for obama, I started investigating and listening to “EVERYTHING” he said or did, The first thing that brought the hairs on my next to attention was calling our Consttution NEGATING. This is the same document he is going to have to swear alliegence to, Second, 5 days before the election He said ” In 5 days we are going to FUNDAMENTALY change America. I was aghast, this is the greatest country in the world, we did not need CHANGE or obama. Thank God Sarah Palin came into the picture, she is a woman of honor and dignity and will be our next “President of The United States of America”

      • http://www.giftsbyprovintech.com IMAGIFTS

        Penney, you got it right … you know when you think back obama actually never lied what he was going to do if elected … YOU heard him once you decided to do so …. we kept ourselves informed and pointed in the right direction we had NO illusions on what he meant by “transforming” and “fundamentally change” …. all the idiots that didn’t hear him were not listening … it just sounded good you got fooled for a short time as well … but did get a grip and not be taken by the “cult” (such as jim jones remember?) … that is what I think the progressives are about … they call the american people THEIR voters (not us) “useful idiots” …. who would want to be represented by such a crowd of disrespectful ppl?

        Me as well along with a bunch of us here didn’t vote for McCain because of him but because of Sarah Palin and what she brought to the ticket … hopefully he has the good sense of “staying out of it” this time otherwise we will be toast again …. anyone but him we would not have lost the election … Huckabee would have brought honor to this country and the troops … Romney would have been great for saging businesses … and would not have been “easy going on congress” … but like McCain won again in Arizona just because he had the money to do so …. let’s hope he consider himself OUT of the RACE forever … we should have gone after McCain more for not fighting about all those issues of “associations’ of obama’s (ranting & raving pastor – bill ayres, bernadine dourne etc…)… that is the only reason why he won … I still believe he didn’t win fair & square … acorn had a lot to do with it …. look now they trying to reverse some of their guys that lost in 2010 …. even illegals have more “allegiance” to this country than obama! they are here to make money and send home or stay … he’s here to DESTROY this country … that is all he wants … us being run by the UN!

      • Penny Fuentes

        I believe McCain won in Arizona because of Sarah Palin. We wont have to worry about her endorsement in 2012. LOL. God Bless Sarah Palin, God Bless America and God Bless and Keep Israel.

        http://www.sarahpac.com

      • Penny Fuentes

        Yes, we would not be called racist, we would be called ANTI-Women. It doesn’t matter that she started media matters and it is funded by George Soros, or that she lied about being underfire at an airport. Hillary seems to be able to get away with alot, not on my watch and I am sure not on yours. God Bless.

    • Vagabond

      yes I remember Joe very well and how he was showing the world how many communists there were in our government. thats why they black listed him with the help of the lame streem media, they finaly ran him out of office,

      • Penny Fuentes

        Not only did they destroy his image, they destroyed his life. People could not believe there were communists in our government, well they believe it now. As I said, Gen. McArthur also believed “They are all Communists”.

      • Karolyn

        I don’t think we have any laws against being Communist.

      • Penny Fuentes

        No, we didn’t have to, it was morally repugnant to be a communist, because they were against The United States and that was illegal. But now that most of the media are either socialist, progressives or communist, some people such as yourself, think it is okay.

    • Evermyrtle

      I wish we had some Joe McCarthys in the White House!!

      • Penny Fuentes

        SARAH PALIN is Sen. McCarthy, Gen. McArthur, George Patton wrapped in ONE. She is going to eat obama live and spit him out.

      • Evermyrtle

        Yes, and she has the Deoocrats running for cover. I hope she will put her name into the pot for president!!!!!!!!!!

      • Karolyn

        Then we would really see some lost freedoms!

      • Penny Fuentes

        What freedoms would you lose Karolyn? Are you talking about the freedoms you are losing now minute to minute , on a daily basis by your annointed one obama. I repeat what I have said in the past, Democrats take a vow of Stupid.

      • mickey

        So Karolyn, you are okay with 20% of Congress openly declaring themselves “socialists”? DSA is Democratice Socialists of America. And freedom to do what? Support LaRaza whose goals include taking over the US?

        Gosh, I thought you declared yourself a journalist or is that journalista?

  • Just an American

    WHY isn’t he more concerned with what AMERICAN CITIZENS want??!! WHY is he speaking to a bunch of (likely) ILLEGALS?!?! The can’t vote! I feel sick every time he opens his mouth! And, btw, STOP threatening cuts in veteran’s benefits and social security to manipulate hard working citizens!

    • Penny Fuentes

      Just an American, THEY are voting. The last election I saw people I KNEW were not citizens voting. I was at the dmv a few weeks ago and noticed a poster promoting voter registration in the dmv. The only id required is a license, How many illegals have drivers licenses-ALOT.

      • Vagabond

        Penny you are 150% correct. and thats why obummer wants as many of them as he can get. and anyone who doesn’t realise that is just plain STUPID,

      • Penny Fuentes

        You’ve got that right.

    • Evermyrtle

      His picture makes me sick as well as, his speech. I hate arrogence and he is the most arrogant person I have ever had the disadvantage to see or to hear….

      • Penny Fuentes

        I know Evermyrtle, I feel the same way, I get sick to my stomach when I see or hear him. I know that you are a christian as I, I know we are supposed to pray for him, but I can’t, I just can’t. obama has abused our country, our faith and our trust. The only thing I have been able to pray for him is that NO ONE kills him because that would make him a martyr and he does not deserve that honor.

      • Evermyrtle

        Even though I am a devout Christian I am a sinner. too and have to repent to GOD, every day. I have been in quite a few conversations with different people about praying for Obama. Most people say we should. I read the Bible a lot and have run across the following scriptures: Jer;7:16 Pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry into prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee. This is referring to people disobeying GOD and it makes me think it would refer to him, also because no person has ever since America been America have we had a more anti-GOD in any political position He even lies and says he is a Christian, which many people are so uninformed that they believe him. HIS word says also: you know a tree by the fruit it bears. In these end days this evil is more prevalent than ever before all over the world. Jer.11:14, 14:11 say much the same thing.

      • Karolyn

        There are a few people who post here who would be right up there on a list of arrogant people.

      • Evermyrtle

        Karolyn, there is a very great difference in knowing you are right about a subject and being arrogant which means haughty, proud, overbearing. BO is arrogant and proclaims JESUS as hate word, this JESUS who loved us so much that HE died on the cross for me and for you and for BO. I know without a shadow of a doubt I have the right info and know my GOD AND HIS, SON JESUS CHRIST AND WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

      • Karolyn

        Yes, there are people here who are haughty and proud know-it-alls. And when did Obama proclaim anything about Jesus?

      • Cawmun Cents

        Obama never talks about Jesus Christ.One would think that he would give glory to his savior if he was a true believer.-CC.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Yes Karolyn and we are ALL glad you recognize your limitations.

    • Karolyn

      The republians are the ones who want to cut Social Security!

      • Penny Fuentes

        Karolyn, I feel sorry for you. Republicans don’t want to cut social security, They want to save it while they can. If something is not done, it wont be there for ANYONE.

      • Doug

        I noted on a blog someone complaining that people now retired will earn more from Social Security than they paid in. What an idiot! Of course they should be earning more now each month than their total monthly remittances of the past, but only if the Social Security fund had been properly managed, such that the funds were invested like they are in any 401(k) or IRA. But hat’s not the way it was conceived.

        It was conceived such that each worker would pay a tiny amount into the Social Security fund, a fund that was supposed to be kept as a growing, separate account by the government, but not everyone that paid in was expected to draw out. It was assumed that many workers would die before retiring, leaving their allotment to other retirees. It was assumed that the funds would go to those who had nothing to live on once they were no longer able to work. It was assumed that people would draw funds only for a little while, as they were expected to die shortly after retirement. It was assumed that the Social Security fund would always run a surplus, and that was its undoing.

        Politicians, seeing the unused funds just sitting there, and hoping to ingratiate themselves with the voting public, assumed it would be okay to expand eligibility for access to the Social Security fund. They invented payouts to people who were not retired, greatly increasing the number of payees and shrinking the ratio of payers to payees. The average age of mortality increased, greatly extending the period that each retiree would draw from the fund. Demographics changed, such that Americans were no longer creating huge families and the ratio of seniors to workers skyrocketed.

        None of these things was anticipated, so the program was unable to support itself without hikes in payroll deductions. But politicians were not done siphoning payola from the Social Security fund. They envied that pile of cash just sitting there, and they annexed it into the General Fund. When the account became overdrawn, they simple left mountains of IOUs behind. Then, to make things look better on paper, they began all sorts of creative bookkeeping practices to hide the mountain of IOUs from the public. They began taking income taxes from Social Security payments, a deception that allowed them to reduce the benefits without formally reducing the benefits. They have been playing games with Cost of Living calculations, so they don’t have to increase the benefits.

        So, even though it was expected that people would receive more from the Social Security fund than they paid in, the politicians messed up the framework. Social Security has jumped the tracks and isn’t going where it was intended to go. Had it been an investment plan from the start, instead of a Ponzi Scheme, no one would complain about anyone drawing more than they paid in. They should be drawing more than they paid in, and not off the backs of an ever shrinking pool of late entries into the Ponzi Scheme, but from wisely invested dollars.

        Democrats complain that Republicans want to end Social Security, but the fact is that Social Security is dying the death of a million cuts. Republicans are actually attempting to save Social Security, not destroy it. But perhaps they should just let it alone, not try to save it, and give it over to the Democrats. Under the Democrats, it will go bankrupt sooner. They should allow it to go bankrupt, just as they should have allowed GM and insolvent financial institutions go bankrupt. Bankruptcy would have forced those companies to reallocate assets by selling them off to stable concerns, to write off unrecoverables, and to abrogate over-generous union agreements, thus allowing a restart.

        If Social Security were allowed to go bankrupt, we could then rebuild a safety net for those who truly need life-sustaining support, while all the freeloaders would be purged from the system. It would abrogate all the agreements that have been added onto the system, agreements that would never be allowed by politicians to be removed one by one. Just dump them all and start over by creating a new system that is not a Ponzi Scheme. That is part of the plan for younger people, a plan that would allow them to opt out of Social Security and start saving for themselves.

        Just let Social Security go bankrupt. It is the only way that repairs can be implemented. Companies go bankrupt all the time, but that doesn’t mean they go out of business. They just rearrange their business practices. Look at the airlines. Many went bankrupt, but Americans were not grounded. Unless there are major repairs to the system, it is useless to try to pour more money into Social Security.

        Of course, for Marxists, a broken Social Security system is a perfect vehicle for redistributing wealth. It’s not about investments anymore; it’s about direct transfers from the “haves” to the “have nots.” And to ensure a greater redistribution, the Marxists are seeking to expand the base of Social Security recipients. They see no need to repair the system, because a broken system suits their needs better. Republicans are concerned with providing security to the most needy among us; Democrats are concerned with knocking the wealthy down to size. It’s all class warfare and the politics of envy.

        In this battle between conservatives and liberals, there can be no compromise. We have reached a place in American history where compromise is impossible. One side or the other will win, and it is obvious that what lies before us is prosperity or utter ruin.

  • Penny Fuentes

    Just Joking Huh! This man is a Hugo Chavez wanna be. He wants to be in “control” of the country. Announcing to a RACIST group such as La Raza that he would like to bypass country and do it on his own is like dousing a fire with lighter fluid. A very dangerous and premeditated idea. The mantra for La Raza is: For the race and only the race.

    • Penny Fuentes

      Sorry- bypass Congress, not country.

      • Lueder

        Penny Fuentes,

        I think you had it right the first time. No such thing as a Freudian slip in my book. LOL

        Lueder

      • Penny Fuentes

        Probably, LoL. Thanks Lueder.

    • http://Personalliberty Tony

      Hey Penny:
      What’s the difference between La Raza, the Tea Baggers, Amren, or Stormfront? Can You tell me!?! Except for few color changes they’re all the same. I mean the groups promote the interest of whites. So, if you condemn La Raza then condemn the others. All is fair. Thanks!!
      Finally, to the President threatening to use the 14th amendment. Well,
      since both parties don’t want to be rational and co-operate to solve this major problem, what else can the president do? Think about that everyone. Goodbye for now.

      • Cribster

        Where’s the punch line?

      • Gary

        The difference Tony is that La Raza for the most part are not American citizens. The “TEA PARTY” ARE.

      • Bert Cundle

        La Raza is a Latino Org. “For Latinos!” not a civil rights org.!

      • Matilda

        Hey Tony, the difference is people like you who can’t see the forest thru the trees. And because of that you diminish your own thought by referring to the “Tea party” as Tea Baggers when you know full well that they have a totally different agenda than the others mentioned. Nothing that they do or say is as you imply. At some point you will have to grow up and admit the error of your ways.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Well Tony, since I am a member of The Tea Party I can tell you exactly what the difference is: The Tea Party is not racist. They are comprised of Democrats, Republicans and Independants who LOVE this country and want The United States restored to it’s initial glory. This is the greatest country in the world, If you think about it, We are the only country in history that has lived in FREEDOM from inception. Americans are the first to help and the last to receive thanks. We welcome LEGAL immigration, not anarchy. We recognize THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES as THE LAW OF THE LAND. We do not lay plan to the overthrow of this country,we want our values foremost put forth for the use of “OUR” citizens. I can say this because, if you notice my last name is of Spanish origin. My paternal grandparents came to this country in 1921,legally,they raised their children to be AMERICANS, no other flag than THE AMERICAN FLAG flew in our homes. My maternal great-grandparents were on the Trail of Tears, so Yes I know the difference of Racist group, which are and which aren’t.

      • rockin on

        Penny, this county cannot be RESTORED to a former glory. It must face the (sad) fact that it is changing in demographic color and global wealth status. By any standard other than Tea Party’s (modern Know Nothings), Obama would be considered middle of the road. (Now Pelosi, that is a wild-eyed communist.) Even Ronald Reagan is too liberal for you science-hating Tea Partiers. Admit that you ran up the check while Bush/Cheney were in power and pay YOUR tab!

      • Penny Fuentes

        Rockin on, Stalin and other marxists had a word for people with your mindset- Useful Idiots. You know nothing of the truth yet you rant with the verbage of lame steam media.This country, The United States of America, CAN and Will be restored because we have one great advantage- Americans.As for your comment on Reagan he was a “Tea Partier” in mind and Deed. For your final comment, Democrats took over control of congress in 2004, because of their known inability to govern(proven historical fact) they economy started in a spiral,THEN your guy obama came into office, A man that has never been able to hold a job, never voted while his short stay as a senator other than saying present.obama has added more to the debt of this country than any of the prvious presidents combined. So try and get your facts straight, people are laughing at you with your bigoted and racist comments regarding The Tea Party.

      • allioo89

        well rockin on if republicans made this debt we didnt do it without NANCY PRLOSI who was speaker for 6 years that is right the last 6 years while Bush was in office so dont make a fool sorry a (bigger fool) of yourself you just spit socialistic talking points so no one takes you serious. use fact check then you wont look so bitter.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Since you seem to like making assumptions not based on fact, would you like to have an open and honest debate on the subjects?

      • just little ole me

        The United States of America is going to change? But I believe for the better in the end after hardships. This is what I think is going to happen. We will eventually be at war with our neighbors, states and possibly family members who differ in opinion. Churches will gather and run with our constitution and it will be saved through a small portion of us. I am afraid many lives will be lost but I am prepared to give mine for the sake of liberty and God. States will fall away and we will become a smaller nation. We are being tested and sifted for a great purpose. God will be our defender and help fight our wars. The ones who tried to keep peace (tried to prevent war) and lived and breathed by the constitution will survive. We will gather and great miracles will happen as it did for our founding fathers. Freedom comes with a cost and I think this will be the greatest cost ever. I believe soon after this our Savior will return. He must or we would all be lost. Some may call me a loon but this is a strong feeling I have. I don’t know when is the problem. I hope soon because this is all ready feeling like oppression. No I don’t want to go through the bad but I think in the end the constitution will be as it should be, as the founding fathers saw it. And liberty will run supreme. Utopia (he must watch over it) could only work for our Savior because he is perfect, man is not perfect and very selfish. Natural man is an enemy to God. Evil man must be weeded from the God fearing/loving man for Christ to reign. He will let evil destroy itself. Our flag will be flying when Christ returns. We must prepare ourselves so we can be leaders to lead the scared few who wake up at the last minute. We must also have forgiveness in our hearts and stop the blame game. Please stop the name calling it only makes our side look as petty as the progressives/socialists so forth. We are bigger than that. Don’t stoop to their level, fight with logic and truth. Many of us slept for a time and let things slowly come to the front. I am sorry to say I was one of those. This mom has woken and she is alert and in protective mode for three of my beautiful daughters. God bless America no matter her size. I will cry “I am Free.”

      • Dan az

        Just little ole me
        Well put!One question though whats a natural man?

      • Karolyn

        rockin – You are right. Things will never go back to the way they were no matter how much people want them to. We live in a far different world.

      • JC

        rockin on either doersn’t know or has forgotten that no government has acted on its own. ALL have been manipulated by the owners of the Federal Reserve. Blaming the Republicans or the Democrats is an exercise in mental masturbation…END THE FED / RESTORE THE REPUBLIC!

      • anthony

        really sad tony that you don’t have the brains to think, read and watch the garbage in the government…you are a child..just like obamster, except obamster is a smart rat…you …well…???
        no reason to go on about it….your attention span ended several words ago.

      • just little ole me

        Dan az,

        Natural man is one who goes after the selfishness of his own heart and not God’s therefore he is God’s enemy. When we give in to our natural tendencies instead of holding ourselves to God’s standards. Sorry anthony for using the reply button on your comment it didn’t have one under Dans az comment.

      • Crystal

        What’s a Tea Bagger?

      • Former Walmart person

        A guy who bags tea at a factory of course. So called “tea baggers” are really just concerned and aware citizens.

      • Brad

        Crystal,

        In it’s truest form its a gay term between gay men… Since the Tea Party’s rise it’s the left’s term to describe the movement that advocates for smaller government and having government live within its means. A term used to put down patriotic Americans wanting a better life for their children and grandchildren.

      • Bert Cundle

        The term should mean: A Communest… The same amount in a bag, per cup of tea.

      • Al Sieber

        Hey Tony, move to Mexico.

      • MSSouth

        Hey Tony, Who said, “We won!” At what time in the first two years of abuma’s reign did he seek to ‘reach across the isle?’ He and the liberal/dumocrats had the whole cake and never (and let me repeat that) never was he concerned with bi-partision support. BUT, when he looses the House, now he wants to ‘come together’ and still ‘do it my way’!!! I fully expect to one day see abuma throw himself on the floor and scream and kick like my three year old grandchild does when she doesn’t get her way!!!

      • Penny Fuentes

        He is already throwing tantrums. Congress was ready to sign a bill,and at signing obama decides he wants to add tax increases, the man has no moral turpitude, does not know what a “gentlemans” agreement because he is not gentleman. He is a lying, coersive, little thug.

      • Vagabond

        tony you sound like an IDIOT the tea party is for a strong America for all races. laraza is for the hispanic race only and of course for their own good,

      • Push comes to Shove

        And one point no one has mentioned in the line of posts has stated is that the Tea Party has members of evry race in it: black, white, latino, oriental. How many white or black members does La Raza have? How many white or hispanic members does the NAACP have?

        The answer is either zero (0) or less than 0.1%. So tell us Mark who is racist?

      • Penny Fuentes

        Good for you Push comes to Shove. I thought I had encompassed races with parties, I like your idea better. God Bless

      • http://Personalliberty Tony

        To Push comes to Shove:
        You need to do some research. The Naacp have white, asian, and hispanic members. Read their manifesto, if you can, on their website.
        La Raza has members of all races. They, even, have an alliance with the Naacp. One last historical note, some of the Naacp founders were
        white. Again do research before popping off at the mouth. Next,
        Ms. Fuentes, you better look at yourself in the mirror. If these Tea Baggers, you love so much, get their wishes you’ll be deported or on a reservation, i’ll be back in the cotton fields. Something for you to ponder. Well, that’s all from Tony -a Responsible conservative.

      • Dan az

        So tony you admit that your black and that you voted for this fraud and now your angry at your self that you like so many others have made a mistake.Don’t take it out on the tea party place the blame squarely where it belongs,that your a racist and only believe what Al Sharpton and jesse jackson says and its all a scam for you to launch hate at the white folk.The truth hurts some times,but get over it.you were not a slave and the white folk didn’t suppress your life,you voted thinking that this so called want to be black man was on your side and would give you what you thought was going to be a free ride.Get a job its not going to happen.Muslims hate blacks just as much as you hate whites.Stop thinking you were a slave and start thinking your an American instead.Brain washing by the likes of sharpton and jackson is only hurting you from being what you want to be.Its only up to you to make that decision.

      • BKWsr

        Tony your the one who needs to do a research of your claims. A white person started the Naacp, but they are not included now. LaRaza is an extremist group on the leval of the Black Panthers, KKK, and SkinHeads. They only accept Mexicans. My ancestry claims Mexico first stole our lands in Texas, That before Mexico lays any claim to take land they first need to give back what they stole first. I read something else that gives me heart burn. Since when are white people the only ones who ever had slaves. Only someone ignorent of history would make that remark. In fact all races has held, and enslaved others, and still do.

      • Karolyn

        Well, the NAACP here is all-inclusive. When I see their reps at meetings, they always invite everybody to their meetings and events.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Tony it is plain you know nothing of The Teaparty, there are blacks, whites and browns since color is so important to you. I had to laugh at your comment, if they deport me they’ll just be sending me back to Minneapolis, Minnesota! The Tea Party people are the most decent and America loving people on earth. I am sorry you feel so left out, maybe you should go to a meeting sometime, I know you will enjoy it.

      • mickey

        Gee, Tony, I have a Spanish last name so how do you account for that? I have light skin but parts of my family do not. Some are Asian, Mexican, French, Russian, Irish, Native American. All are US, legal, and none want to establish a sect of their own.

        Blacks are so inter-racial now, it is only hard line blacks that can be called a “race”. That leaves LaRaza. You do realize Calderon and Mexico controls immigration so that the “race” is not diluted, don’t you?

        So just how do you qualify my family as a “race”? Because we share (and lol not always the same opinion) a like mine of alligence to the US?

        LaRaza is funded to the tune of $11M, up from $4M, by obama. Likewise many organizations that support illegals. Take away the funding and see how many drop their secular views.

        The way you come off, anyone whose viewpoint is different from yours is “white”.

      • Lost in Paradise

        The people who created this country will continue to own it come hell or high water.You can take that to the bank. In addition the T-party is about everyone of any color. I am not. If it ain’ white, it ain’t right. Multi culteralism does not work and is tearing America to pieces. I and many others do not want you here, especially all you illegal parasites!! Get the hell out of my country.

      • http://Personalliberty Tony

        Lost in Paradise:
        Why don’t you go and post on Stormfront or Amren. You along with your knuckle draggin ilk fit in better. Bye-Bye!!

      • S.C. Murf

        Time for little tony to make that popping sound, please tony your mommy wont mind

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Penny Fuentes

        See Tony, lost in paradise is a racist, definitely not a tea partier, we wouldn’t want him!

      • Karolyn

        Multiculturism is one of the reasons the Norwegian wacko killed all those people. Read his manifesto.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Karolyn, you are either an obama plant or a cnn operative. This guy in Norway is evil. He is not insane that would give him an excuse. Unlike you and political correctness, I would love to see you living in a muslim country, I guarantee you would not be singing the tune of embracing Multiculturalism….

      • Evermyrtle

        Here goes the stupid race craze again!! It is far past the time for race predjudice. It is time to fight for our lives, black, white, brown, yellow, or in between, makes no diferance. We are all in the sinking boat together and we better fight together because if it goes down, we all will go with it. Forget the color of your skin and fight with us.

      • Walt

        Radical ‘Reconquista’ Agenda

        Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

        Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

        One of America’s greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.

        This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

        “Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

        MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

        “In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

        That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

        If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.

        MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren’t asking for amnesty — they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

        MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as “Aztlan” — a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to “La Raza” once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

        This plan is what is referred to as the “Reconquista” or reconquest, of the Western U.S.

        But it won’t end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of “Aztlan.”

        As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

        MEChA Plants

        Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.

        Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza’s Graciela Olivarez Award. Now we know why he refuses to condemn a sea of foreign flags in his city. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza’s 2002 Annual Convention.

        The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.

      • Penny Fuentes

        I’m sorry but I have no sympathy for either mecha or la raza. The united states did not just drop into our laps in this condition, we worked, gave our lives, to the building of this great nation. I have an idea, sorry for what I am about to say, but I am now mad!! If you want Aztlan, why don’t you fix that S–T HOLE OF A COUNTRY MEXICO, instead of trying to destroy this society.

      • Walt

        Whoa Penny! Calm down.

        My input was NOT PRO Aztlan, my input clearly points out the dangers that both La Raza & MeCha pose to this country, with their vision of “ethnic cleansing” of all Europeans, Africans, and Asians.

        Your comment: If you want Aztlan, why don’t you fix that S–T HOLE OF A COUNTRY MEXICO, instead of trying to destroy this society.

        …..is clearly out of line. I don’t support Aztlan or MeCha.

        But, you have nothing to worry about, anybody with a name like Fuentes will be welcomed with open arms by these two groups.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Walt , I’m sorry I wasn’t even thinking you were endorsing La Raza, I was mad at them NOT you. You are very astute in your observations and I liked your post- My angst was directed to those groups who want to take over the South West. Again, sorry you thought I was ranting at you.God Bless.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Walt I had to laugh at your comment about them “embracing” me, I don’t think so- I am very pro American, a Tea Pary Repulican, and so far right I could border on reactionary, LOL! My fiance had a gentleman working for him cleaning out the drains on the roof. I spoke to the man in spanish, he asked my fiance, “How does she know spanish” He answered ” She’s mexican” the man answered” No, she’s not, she’s white like you” Oh well what can I say.Have a good day Walt

      • Dan az

        Walt
        Great Job!If you don’t mind I would like to borrow your research and spread it around to other sites.This needs to be put out there for those that don’t live in border states and have know idea what is going on.Thank you for your work on this.
        And penny we all fell the same way as you.Thank you for being someone that sees this destruction.

      • Walt

        Thanks Dan, however the cudos for the research are undeserved.

        All that text was from an article posted on April 7, 2006 by Georgia Republican Congressman Charlie Norwood, of the GA 10th District, who has since died of cancer on Feb. 13, 2007.

        As a fellow Georgian myself, I admire his service to our great country, not only as a congressman, but also his service as an Army Capt. in Vietnam, for which he received 2 Bronze Stars and Combat Medical Badge.

        As a tribute to his life and service, The Veterans Administration hospital in Augusta, GA, bears his name and is officially known as the Charlie Norwood VA Medical Center. He was a great American.

      • mickey

        Penny, I had to laugh. I speak little Spanish but my skin is light. My grandchildren, a little darker. LaRaza is giving all of us a black eye.

        I wonder how LaRaza feels about the actual Spanish descent, the ones that still have light colored eyes and skin.

        Having been further into Mexico, there are many of Spanish (Spain) descent. Some I met from further south of Mexico had red hair, freckles, and blue eyes.

        I hardly see Calderon exporting his educated (nor do they have a desire to overcome the US) but the indios which he chooses not to educate or to provide welfare for.

        While I admit that years ago we in the North had problems with blacks, there was no prejudice against Mexicans.

      • mountaine

        Hey Tony, sounds like you don’t care for our way of living so why don’t you leave. Your way of discribing a party is offensive.

      • JC

        Tony says:
        July 27, 2011 at 7:30 am
        Hey Penny:
        What’s the difference between La Raza, the Tea Baggers, Amren, or Stormfront? Can You tell me!?! Except for few color changes they’re all the same. I mean the groups promote the interest of whites.
        ___________________________________________________________________

        The difference is that the Tea Party is made up of Americans of all colors and creeds…because they promote the Constitution…of the US!
        But being a liberal, you play that tired old race card…BORING.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Which is hilarious because they are not a race.-CC.

  • FedUpinNH

    You can bet he will approve near-instant citizenship to illegals in the run-up to the next election, if given the opportunity. It’s the ONLY way he gets re-elected.

  • bsfurg

    go ahead obama and use the 14th amentment and make my day cause I think if yu did you would be out the WH door so fast.. If we could get rid of you then everthing wuld fall into place and things would get done.. If any plan doesnt help you destroy american then you dont want it…. thats your plan…

    • skippy

      way to go bsfurg!!! i’m with ya on that!!

    • Sarika

      Here’s something I found about the 14th Amendment:
      If the decision to add something to the budget in order to “provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States” automatically includes borrowing money to do it, then why are they separate in the text of the constitution? Why is spending in section 7, but borrowing and taxing in section 8? For that matter why is borrowing separated from taxing power if it’s all automatically included? Why does the text of the Constitution explicitly distinguish between taxes imposed “to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare”?

      • Penny Fuentes

        Sarika, I wish of all of US would read and ask questions such as yours.

      • Hope For American

        Sarika, The Constitution I have and in Amendent 14, there is no Section 7 or Section 8. It ends at Section 5, and according to Section 3 Obama shouldn’t even be President.

      • pegasis

        Hope for America,
        Sakira is referencing sections 7 and 8 in the constitution, not the Bill of Rights.

    • mark

      This is a useful tactic if it helps both sides move toward a settlement on the debt ceiling issue

    • Evermyrtle

      bsfurg, How I hope you are right!! He has stomped all over the Constitution and done other things that I would be charged for treason if I tried it, AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED. NOTHING, SO WHY WOULD IT CHANGE, NOW.

      • pegasis

        According to Obama and Holder, we are being treasonous for execising our 1st ammendment rights. We’re not supposed to speak out against the government!

  • Big Daddy

    What a shame we can’t make the one change that would solve many of the problems in washington today.
    Get rid of the fraud in the white house.
    He is allowing this nation to go down due to his lack of leadership and refusal to acknowledge that he and his fellow demoncrats are out of touch with the mainstream.
    You morons jsut don’t get it and you should be fired.

    • Handyman

      The asses you are talking about belong to the communist run United Nations, Stop funding them. We don’t need to learn from them, they need to learn from America.

    • Tim

      I guess you don’d have a problem with letting the republicans take away your Social Security and Medicare benefits that you have been paying for all of your working life.

      • MSSouth

        Tim, STUFF IT!!! You sound like the ‘little boy who cried wolf’!!! If you would get your head out of abuma’s behind and smell something more than odorifus (Sp) eminations of where your head is, you might finally graduate first grade!!!

      • http://smalltimebiggoverment Linda

        Wake up, and get the facts! They are not taking away Social Security and Medicare, this has been in jepardy for decades, we were too comfortable to pay attention. Anyone over 55 yrs. stays the same. we’ve got to fix the spending, get rid of this Healthcare monster that will destroy it all. We have a war on many fronts on the inside the “progressive” agenda is to move toward Utopia run by the Gods they believe they are. Only God in Heaven has a stamp on that. They are not God. We are being destroyed from within. Obama is a Constitution Destroyer, hence to bring us down, to build us up in his immage, this is a new kind of devil.

      • BKWsr

        The only thing wrong with social security is those idiots in Washington keep taking the money for other then what it was intended. as to this health care BS. Get rid of it. Fix the original problem: people making $10.000 an hour. charging $20.00 a pill that cost .10 cents to make. I can by 100 325mg aspiren for $2.00 yet 85mg heart health aspiren $6.00 there is where our problem is.

      • Rich

        Tim,
        The healthcare bill that the Dems rammed trough had $500 billion in cuts to Medicare in it. Why is that okay but a specific plan to reduce cost by eliminating fee for service billing is bad?

      • Penny Fuentes

        Tim, Republicans are not trying to “take away” social security, they are trying to save it. In just a FEW short years,Social Security will be gone. The government, dems and reps, have used the trust as a “Slush Fund” putting in bogus IOU”S. All they had to do was leave the trust alone, let it collect interest, increase participation and be dilgigent in recognizing fraud, we would not be in this mess.

      • Vagabond

        Penny the DAMNED DEMOCRATS under lyndon bains johnson STOLE the social security fund in 1964 and put it in the general fund to finance the vietnam war to keep from raising taxes.I was in the Air Force at that time,

      • ValDM

        While that’s true, let’s not overlook that SS was used as a means to GIVE start-up money for refugees. MANY dollars went to Hmong (chinese); Vietnamese (boat people); Marielistas (Cuba’s prison people); Eastern Europeans (when their regimes fell). Many is the time, when working retail, these (and others like them) would come in to shop & open their wallets (pridefully) to show how much their wallets were STUFFED with cash. All thanks to you & me thru SS.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Vagabond, that is what I meant by a slush fund, the funds have been allocated more than once. Thank You for your service, especially in Viet Nam. I lost family in that war.

      • http://www.bacchuswinecellars.com IMAGIFTS

        - you are stupid if you believe that garbage … the reps are not wanting to take away your medicate etc… if is “fearmongering” by the progressives …. or that the checks or benefits to the armed forced will be cut if we don’t pass a budget etc…. they have not passed a budget for the first 2 yrs obama has been “reigning” instead of running (lack thereof) our country … we shut it down once years ago … he wants all the glory for “success” (not much of those and I’m being polite) …. and none of the blames for fall outs … did you see he’s been campaigning from day one in politics? he has actually never done anything else … still isn’t!

      • Vagabond

        tim who told you the republicans were going to take our social security? for the last fifty years every election cycle the democrats start tellig us we are going to lose our social security if we vote republican. but you dont hear any of them talk about cutting wellfare to the deadbeats dope heads and those just too lasey to work in a pei factory tasting pies. that is the way the democrats keep buying votes and getting more loafers on the wellfare rolls while threatning to take our social security which I paid into for over fifty years, DAM THE DEMOCRATS,

      • Karolyn

        Well, damn the republican part of the rich!

      • lkar

        Now blaming the rich!

      • Karolyn

        S/B “party FOR the rich!

      • Doug

        Karolyn, your class warfare and politics of envy is disgusting. I am not rich, but by God I intend to be some day. I will become rich through my own hard work and intellectual capacity. I now tithe 10% of my income to my church and give another 5% in donations to charities that do the work of the Lord. When I am rich, I will continue tithing, but I am sure my giving to Christian charities will increase. You and your socialist buddies have no claim to the fruits of my labor! Stop reaching in my pocket to make payments to unGodly organizations that do more harm than good in this world. I have plans to build a company in the near future, but I am waiting until Obama is out of office and all his policies are reversed. I can easily establish my company overseas to protect my profits from the likes of you Marxists. In fact, I lived in Asia for 20 years and have many social and business contacts throughout the region. It would not be hard for me to simply leave this place and return to a good life abroad. I had wanted to build something in the U.S. for my children, but you Marxists are just waiting to lay claim to it. So, screw you all. You aren’t going to redistribute my wealth, you bunch of jerks.

      • Penny Fuentes

        You know what Karolyn you are a Liberal, it is plain to see. You do know recently the Psychiatric Profession declared your hatred of the rich and the idea income redistribution a mental disorder?

      • Elevenarrows

        We should honor the agreements to those who are already dependent on those programs, but needing them doesn’t make them constitutional. They should never have been started. We do not need the government to hold our retirement savings as if we are toddlers unable to save on our own. Stop taxing us to death and most of us could take care of ourselves quite nicely. Those who can’t, always had churches and charities that helped in time of need.

        By the way, if we quit funding the Taliban, mosques in other countries, abortions here and around the world, schools and hospitals in foreign countries, China by importing all their plastic garbage while they refuse to accept our goods…we would not have to worry at all about funding those programs. When Obama threatens to not be able to send out social security checks, Americans should demand that he bring American money back from afar to fund our needs. Bring back drilling for oil from Brazil to our shores, too!

      • LMW

        And there you go again Tim. YOU are part of the problem – how about doing a bit of reading of real documents and real quotes instead of simply reading blogs and posting unproven things on them?

        Medicare and Social Security will NOT be taken away – are you concerned about the fact that Obama and his health care law already plans to cut $500 billion from Medicare? No? Why? Because you have fallen victim to the propaganda of the Democrats who say that ONLY the Republicans want to “cut” benefits for Seniors? On record is a FACT that THEY did it when they rammed through the health care bill without ONE Republican vote – yet here you are spouting off the lies.

        And as for Ryan’s Budget – he didn’t mention Social Security reforms in it AT ALL. He knew the controversy and wanted it to be approached separately – yet here YOU are once again spouting the lies of the Democrats.

        Do yourself and the rest of this country a favor….WISE UP.

      • Dan az

        timmy
        It’s time for you to stop interrupting the adults here and go back to watching your cartoons.Your distraction is wasting valuable time that we have left for others that want to learn the truth.So leave now if your not here to learn or go stand in the corner.

      • Doug

        You ignoramus. The money is running out. No one but Democrats is taking away anything. Democrats took $500 billion — that’s half a trillion dollars! — out of Medicare in order to fund Obamacare. This is a shift of the funding away from seniors to the general population. With expected outcome-based medical protocols, seniors will be denied life extension treatments under Obamacare, because Obamacare will be hard pressed to provide basic care for people younger than middle age. Democrats are spending away the future with all their welfare and frivolous spending today, leaving nothing for our children and grandchildren tomorrow. I am nearly 60, but I don’t expect to retire for another 20 years because of Obamanomics, and when I do, I know there will be no SS for me. I am planning my retirement as though SS does not exist, because it will be bankrupt by the time I retire. Republicans are trying to make the changes necessary to allow SS and Medicare last longer for those who really, really need it. Changes must come in the form of means testing, delayed retirement, and reduced benefits. The Ponzi Scheme that is SS will self destruct if it continues unchanged. The youth of today had better understand that they must divert a large portion of their assets toward retirement plans and long-term care plans. They have to forget that SS and Medicare exist, because they need to self insure their futures beginning now.

      • mountaine

        Tim, do you have a brain ? He can’t stop those checks ! They aren’t his to touch !!!

      • JC

        Tim says:
        July 27, 2011 at 8:26 am
        I guess you don’d have a problem with letting the republicans take away your Social Security and Medicare benefits that you have been paying for all of your working life.
        _____________________________________________________________
        Just another idiot spouting just some more propoganda…

      • mickey

        Well, Tim, if you really understood what happened to SSA, I might agree with you. You do realize all the welfare programs are in there and that every other agency gives SSA IOU’s for money they take out, don’t you. This information is in GAO reports that are available on line.

        How do you account for SSA becoming DHEW–Dept of Health, Education, and Welfare–and morphed further to Pay Go–only keep funds available for what is currently needed? It is nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme now.

        You do realize that in order to shore up SSA all military and civil service (each having their own retirement accounts) were changed over to SSA withholdings (80′s) and that money was spent.

        You also realize that civil service and military (those that still qualify under both programs) have offsets to SSA. This is despite having worked under both systems. So anyone that worked two jobs at the same time only gets the benefits of one.

    • Evermyrtle

      Big Daddy, When you say he is allowing to he country…he is not allowing the country to do anything, he is driving the country to it’s destruction.

      Lack of leadership, he knows exactly what he is doing, he is very deliberate in his actions.\

      Refuse to acknowledge, it is not refusal to acknowledge anything. This is exactly what he has planned all of this, all of his adult life and maybe sooner thatn that. He has been groomed by masters of his trade, acquire America, any way, makes no differance how.

      Out of touch?? What more can I say except again, “He ain’t out of touch. Every time he has failed America, it has been deliberate. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, AND HE IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF DESTROYING US.”

    • http://None W (not Dubya)

      Can someone please show me the head of the line in Washington, D.C. for the ‘IMPEACH OBAMA” due process? How many laws has he broken, ignored, dissed, and otherwise cast down? Yet no one in Congress, Senate or House of Representatives, can find a SINGLE law violation for which we can begin impeachment proceedings! That is so hilarious that it is sickening. Totally distressing! Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. We should believe Boehner, McConnell, Reid, or Pelosi? We should TRUST any of them?
      Even kids know that butting the budget means they lose cash first. But our government has NEVER, EVER taken a pay cut, or benefit loss, or retirement plan change or cancellation TO BEGIN financial recovery of anything. Why waste our time listening to Washington? They all have the same trash to spew, and none are trustworthy. They’ll sell Grandma anytime for any cause. But never start with their own affairs or pocketbooks.
      Wow. Is this a stupid population/country or what???
      These guys ALL get (1) their own pension system; (2) their own Annual COLA increases (even though everyone else in the country gets anything for three years in a row!), (3) their own medical/dental plan, and (4) salaries high enough to live very well and never get a pay DEcrease, (5) free world-wide travel for so-called “checking into…”, (6) free mail, (7) free offices, (8) free staff. Now let me think……What else are their perks that no one else gets??? Expense accounts? Nah, they get free meals and more from big business and all the special interests from whatever committee they serve on. There must be more! Oh yeah: how about political donations, private donations, gifts, and under the table bribes, offers, and other stuff the public shouldn’t know.
      So why would the elected officers of our government want to throw a monkey wrench into such a good thing just to remove such a guy from the Oval Office? Upset the apple cart over such trivial things as ignoring the Constitutional Rule of America, or ignoring clear laws of the land? Nah, nah, naaaah! Let’s keep this “green” (hint: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) bonanza running strong for the big boys and girls who are sucking us dry — yep! That’s the best way to keep this capitalistic economy running strong. Absolutely.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    Lets get this SOB out of there.

    • Warrior

      “Now, I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own. And believe me, right now dealing with Congress — Believe me — believe me, the idea of doing things on my own is very tempting. I promise you. Not just on immigration reform,” Obama said.

      IF this doesn’t sum up the “progressive’s intent” in a nutshell and wake people up, nothing will. The divide is getting much wider and it’s being fueled by your democrapic socialist party.

      • Handyman

        They are otherwise known as communist, that is not for the good of Americans! Ask Americans who came from Europe, that live here, and escaped comunism!

      • Sarika

        I know….I lived behind the iron curtain. Problem is most American citizens do not know what this can be like and it is slowly creeping up on them without their knowledge. Little by little. I know what’s it’s like getting up in the morning; going for bread before it sells out. I know that the cost of buying a live chicken to take home for Sunday dinner for a family of 6 was more than the cost of filet mignon here. I know because of having only two sets of clothes. I know because the “military policemen” walked on the streets at all hours.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Sarika, Thank God you are here. You can be a light because you know the truth. 15 yrs. ago I had an appliance repairman in my home, he mentioned he was from a communist country and things were going that way here. I said”Oh that wont happen here, We wont let that happen. Guess what, I started watching , it is and has started here. Thank God we as a people are waking up….

      • http://smalltimebiggoverment Linda

        Sarika, Thank you for your insight!! Continue to speak it out to all! Some are waking up in this Country, my prayer is that the number will continue to grow. The youth of America needs to get the truth and be shown both sides and the folly of the indoctrination they are receiving in our schools. This Social Justice crap needs to Go. That is not human nature, Individualism and free enterprise built this country.

      • Dan az

        Sarika
        I would say that allot of us here understand what it would be like but have not experienced YET!Please help us with showing the ones yet to open their eyes to what is in store for them,that way we could add to our numbers to stop this from happening.Thanks!

      • Michael

        I am a retired soldier, I have seen what it is like for the people behind the iron curtain. The American people are asleep if they don’t realize that we have a dictator in our midst we all may know communism

      • Old Henry

        Thank you Sanka. Please continue to educate everyone here, and everywhere else for that matter.

        You are an invaluable asset to lovers of freedom.

      • apple eater

        This sounds like botha dictator and an insurectionist talking to me. This man meeds a reality check. The illegal aliens have illegally invaded our borders and Obama welcomes them with tens of thousands of dollars each per year as free handouts including our jobs and allowing them to steal our identity at the same time.

        From some of the stuff I have seen, there is a lot of evidence he is an illeagl too, so maybe that is the reason he is so strongly for giving them, and his illegal aunt, citizenship so he won’t be deported when / if the INS ever does its job and enforces the law on the illegals in the first place.

        The usurper needsd to be sent back wheere he can from and never allowed back in the country again. Prison is where you or I would be if we had done what he has done.

      • Old Henry

        Well Apple Eater, the usurper needs to be put on the end of, ah, a short rope, along with the others who are complicit.

      • http://smalltimebiggoverment Linda

        Handyman Thank You!! I also want to give a big shout of THANKS to MARCY BONEBRIGHT STAFF WRITER “PERSONAL LIVERTY MEDIA GROUP”. She did not sensationalize her article, just printed the facts as they were laid out before her. There are sites out there that had unfactual headlines as a hook. Keep seeking and speaking the truth. You too Handyman.

      • Karolyn

        Bonebright is obviously just a reporter and not a blogger. I’ve never seen anything slanted written by her. Yes, it is a good thing for a change. All the “expert” talking heads get tiresome after a while.

      • libertytrain

        “just a reporter” — ?

      • Karolyn

        libertytrain – Yes, “just a reporter.” A reporter just relates the news. When I write freelance stories for the local paper, I am “just a reporter.” When I write my column or in a blog, I am a writer.

      • libertytrain

        just….

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear karolyn,

        I feel I must correct you on a few points. When you write freelance stories, you are a freelancer. When you write a column or a blog, you are a columnist or a blogger. Reporters—at least the good ones—are writers (journalists). They seek out news. They develop relationships on their beats (or else they would not get tips that turn into stories). They compile the facts, often under difficult circumstances (speaking to grieving family members, confronting hostile politicians and law enforcement personnel, etc., extracting information from people who don’t want to reveal it). They are wordsmiths who use a well-developed vocabulary to make mundane occurrences sound interesting. They must know how to weed through propaganda, jargon and technical documents to find hidden nuggets. They sit through boring government meetings, often alone because the public can’t be bothered, to keep politicians as honest as possible. They have to know media law, lest they run afoul of the legal system. And they do it not for pay, but for the love of the story. And for doing these things, many people consider them only slightly above used car salesmen. Please don’t dismiss the job reporters (including Marcy) do. Without a free (and diligent) press, we would certainly be no better off than those who suffered under Communist Russia.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Jay

        Thank you Mr. Livingston. Superbly stated, and very educational!

      • Karolyn

        Thank you Bob. You clarified a lot for me. I guess Marcy and I are not “just” reporters when working in that capacity. I never really thought about it that way.

      • http://Newsmax.com forestcity, nc

        our ship of state, the titanic, still has a chance of recovery even with a feeble socialist mao inspired captain at the helm. But the hour glass quickly runs it’s course. It is now time for americans to wake up from this three year nightmare and vote to save the union. At this point vote for anyone of any party who is not of the current ship of state crew. Think of your children’s future.

      • Evermyrtle

        I’m afraid the hole in it cannot or will not be repaired in time to save us as a free nation. GOD is our only hope and HE will let it go just so far, only HE knows haw far, and then HE will end it all in VICTORY. That is the only bright light before us and a wonderful LIGHT IT IS

      • slapjack

        New ubummbo mantra LIE CHEAT and STEAL, YEA I WILL. He is definetly a new breed of COCKROACH. Impeach him now.

      • Tim

        I seem to remember a remark by George W. Bush: “A dictatorship wouldn’t be so bad, as long as I’m the dictator.” I suppose most of you agreed with him.

      • http://www.specificsystems.com LTCB

        Actually, no. Didn’t like any of the abuse of power by Bush any more than I like it from Obama. I even said that if it was allowed to stay in force, when the elections changed the leadership, a lot of folks who didn’t complain then would sure be complaining later. I don’t care who the new “King George” (not Bush, the Revolutionary War King George) is or what party he/she comes from. We’re a Constitutional Republic, not a monarchy, a socialist state, a communist state, a bannana republic, a democracy or anything else. Pure democracy is the worst form of evil. Look at revolutionary France for the best/worst example of “pure democracy”. Whoever it is that opposes the Constitution, oppose them.

      • Penny Fuentes

        AMEN LTCB, great statement.

      • Bus

        A war is a boon to presidential power, it opens numerous doors to extending power. Bush used it to fight a real enemy, Obama maintains his 3 wars in order to have all those emergency powers. When will congress wake up and take back their third of the power? When will the courts start ajudicating based on constitutional principles and bring the imperial (commie, facist) prez down to his rightful place.

      • Doug

        Tim, many of us conservatives found ourselves screaming at Bush a lot during his presidency. I don’t know how many letters of admonishment I sent to him. The fact that he went so long merrily signing all legislation that came to his desk from the Democrats drove me nuts. I wrote to him time and again to demand that he find his veto pen and keep it handy. When you complain about Bush’s spending now, I was complaining then that he wasn’t vetoing the Democrats’ spending bills. The only reason today that I say he was partly responsible for the spending is because of his failure to veto it. But for you to pretend that Democrats are innocent of any responsibility, when all spending bills must originate in the House, is just plain dishonest.

        As for Obama suggesting that he’d do it his way, well we already have plenty of examples of him doing it his way, even defying court orders. I warned over a year ago that I believe that fool would take unilateral action to make things happen by using the power of the Executive Order. My conservative friends declared that impossible, but I say the man is lawless and will do anything he wants. We know the meia will not call him out on it, but the question remains, will the Supreme Court let him get away with it?

      • Vagabond

        very well said Doug. I am sure there are many of us who dissagreed with Bush on many things. especialy his eagerness to work with the democrats.and I haven’t seen a damned thing from the current resident of the oval office that I agree with, he is doing what he set out to do. wrecking this country. and he should be IMPEACHED,

      • Elevenarrows

        I agree with you, Doug. I was appalled at Bush and didn’t vote for him. I felt he was not much different than his one world order father. Why is it that liberals think all conservatives supported Bush? Many of us realized years ago that the two major parties had failed the American people by trouncing on the Constitution. Many of us jumped ship years ago and supported true conservatives in third parties. We are truly the only ones who can’t be blamed for the mess we are now in as a nation. We shouted from the rooftops about where our nation was headed and people laughed us to scorn and scoffed at our candidates. Well, who is laughing now? We could, but we don’t because we are all affected by what our country has become.

      • Tim

        Doug,
        I won’t pretend that the dems are innocent, but don’t forget that for the first six years that Bush was president the republicans had full control of both houses of congress and they were spending like a bunch of drunken sailors.

      • http://WindowsInternetExplorer Elaine Richardson

        None so blind as those that refuse to see, read, or get informed, I for one vetted Barry Soetoro 1. FOIA Occidental law suit Calif DOJ’s lawsuit 2008 published on the net. Application to Ful Bright Foundation for Foreign Aid Grant Name; Barry Soetoro Mandatory Country of origin; Indonesia 2nd FOIA Harvard Law Public Disciplinary Action Taken Under Full Former Name(s) Obama Signed None! Harvard States; Barry Soetoro signed under Penalty of perjury on Ill State Gov Form. Barry Soetoro has used Barry Durham-Barry Obama. Ill State Legislature Perjury US Senate Perjury Nominee/Canidate for Presidential Office Perjury 1977 Conn Social Sec card 042-68-XXXX Conn people between 24 & 29 have died Range 040 to 049 penalty of perjury card issued to Barry Soetoro 1977 Makik, Oahu island Hawaii 1977. FOIA request not granted. 25 years used SS# various law firms, his Resko home (Mass at Harvard) Sen Ill=Sen WDC Slective Service Record,ect, ect. Soc Sec Admin in Conn states Conn # never issued! All History Vaulted by Ex-Order Courts have to obay his orders! Every School Record is in Barry Soetoro’s name from Indonesia 1965 to Harvard Law Sealed EX-Order. Original Long Form BC Mombosa, Kenya & Legal Adoption-Citizenship-Name Change 1964 Indonesia Sealed & Stamped National Security/Top Security.

      • Vagabond

        no tim. I didn’t agree with him and I damned sure dont agree with the head clown in washington,

      • Penny Fuentes

        Tim , it was a joke and not used in front of a group of racists who hate this country.

      • Karolyn

        “racists who hate this country”

        What? Why would you say they hate this country? The ones who came here from other countries would not have come here if they hated this country. Why would call them racists? Obviously, projecting your own feelings on them.

      • texastwin827

        Penny, La Raza is one of the most hate filled organizations there are! Their sole goal is to return all lands, that were orginially Mexico, back to Mexico.

        You need to read up on this group rather than assume that they are just a civil rights group whose only concern are Hispanic Americans. Would YOU want to see about half of the western United States, turned into Mexico? Before answering, go live in Mexico about a year to get a true perspective of what it would be like. The reason Mexico, with all it’s oil, etc, is like it is, is because there are really only 2 classes of people…the few haves and the many have nots. The corruption there is deeply engrained into the “haves” society as that’s largely how they became the haves. Why do you think they allow so many illegals to leave their country? Because they send BILLIONS of US dollars back to Mexico. The money sent from the US is only second to the oil revenue.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Karolyn, the members of La Raza Hate America and they hate Americans if you choose to believe the politically correct B.S. that they love this country you are either one, not listening, or two don’t care. I do, I Love the United States of America, always have, always will.I am in favor of legal immigration where someone comes here to assimilate and become an American.I do not wish to have parasites than come to feed off this country, wave their countrys flag and wish for revolution in this country. I am not reflecting my own racist views as you stated, that is the problem we have in this country at this time, if someone does not like what you say or you tell the truth they hang a tag on you of racism. You must be an advocte for the lame stream media.

      • libertytrain

        Oddly, before this man had been named president, I had never in my entire life been called racist. In fact, I don’t recall the term being used toward anyone who didn’t agree with “you” until this fellow took over. Unfortunately his skin tone (I have family members with skin tone darker than his)has caused the left to lose their ability to discern dislike and racism. Another odd one is the Uncle Tom use that black folks who don’t like him get called. It seems our freedom to choose is being thrashed and beaten by the left. “If you don’t agree with me you are an Uncle Tom or a racist.” Go figure….

      • Dan az

        Tim
        You are sadly mistaken if you think we were for either Bushes,that’s the problem with you lib’s is that you think there is just two parties.Don’t be fooled, that because we are conservatives and libertarians,that are for the same things, we vote for just the republicans its not true we vote for the constitutional republican and libertarian that wants to protect this nation not destroy it.I’m sorry that you made the choice that you did when you voted for this marxist but you not only didn’t research your choice but voted to destroy this nation.So please go somewhere else if you want to have your feelings massaged because this is not where you are going to get it.We are here to inform others of their mistake and hopefully educate them from making the same mistake again.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Texas Twin, where did you get the idea I thought La Raza was a civil rights organization? Re-Read my posts you will see that I find La Raza to be a disgusting Racist group. My calling la raza a racist group is why Karolyn just tried to say that I am racist.

      • sylviam

        Dan—This imigration thin has been going on since the mid-late 70′s.
        I lived in Northern Virginia, and had two children in school at the time, and in that shcool over each door there was plaques with “exit”, “entrance”, seemed cprrect to me until I really LOOKED, and there was the same words in SPANISH,or Latino, thats when My eyes were REALLY opened. If the people had LEGALLY imigrated to the USA, they HAD to learn ENGLISH, so why were there LATINO also written there? Some will say I am RACIST but that would be a real BAD assumption on their part. I have NEVER had a racist person around me, because I do NOT believe in that way of thinking.
        We lived in a MULTI-CULTURAL community, and we got along very well, THANK YOU. BUt I do believe in LEGAL IMMIGTRATION, SPEAKING ENGLISH,AND OBEYING OUR LAWS, and most assuredly RESPECTING our CONSTITUTION, and FLAG.
        GO to another country and tell THEM that you dissagree with their laws and culture, most likely YOU would find YOUR SELF in one of their JAILS. VERY FEW COUNTRIES even like us much less LOVE US.
        Now i think that if anyone finds our COUNTRY to be less than they think it should be, THEN LEAVE, AND NEVER COME BACK. That applies to the CITIZENS here also. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.My MOTTO.
        GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • http://WindowsInternetExplorer Elaine Richardson

        Your comment was right on. One Big Problem 08 Election was a senator with out a resume, 2nd big problem No Vetting of Nominee/Canidate by News Media bought & paid for for silence on facts & swooned over nominee/canidate. No Vetting by those that had a Constitutional Duty to protect the Constitution called the House of Congress while 3 meetings were held to vet John McCain birth Panama Canel US side. No vetting allowed by We The People Citizens Voters, simply put words or terms used Racist, Biggot, Birther plain & simple Conversation stoppers. If anyone reading this response to Dan wants to get informed I suggest World Net Daily for Facts on any subject regarding Barry Soetoro 1964 Indonesia Naturalized with mother Stanly Ann Durham Soetoro then Legally Adopted by Stepfather Lolo Soetoro then Legally Name Change to Barry Soetoro which is the name on any med records, all school records, all employment, Passport 1981 world tour, Speaker Pelosi hand picked her Canidate, she as far as to send letterhead stationary House of Congress to Dem Nat Comm stateing Barack Obama is “Constitutionaly” Eligible for Presidential office, but to the other 49 states letter stated Barack Obama is Eligible for Presidential office, signed by her alone. The Transformation of America stated in the 80′s by the Socialist party waiting for the right canidate to infiltrate the USA Gov, 1st Ill State Legislature plenty of Chicago Pay to Play Money, Chicago Mayor Daly, Valorie Jarret Black Pahnthers, Rev Wright, Acorn ect. The Community Org & wife had trained many groups, low income minority, Harvard Barry taught these people how to subvert our Constitutional Rule of Law. Election Day & Ignaugal Oath of office, Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama Holding Dual Citizenship along with Parents of who neither were USA naturalborn Citizens 2007-08 (mother 1964 Indonesia Naturalized with Barack. No original Long Form Birth cert presented, & the celebration went forward, it took Chief Justice Roberts 3 times to give the Oath to Barry 2 times at swearing in ceramony & then the next day in the Oval #3 Chief Justice Roberts new who & what this man represented, after the oval sweaing in, Barry Soetoro visted the Supreme Court Justices, Justice Roberts was not there,he already had his marching orders. Chief Justice Roberts knew Barry Soetoro was Muslim, Indonesia Naturalized, frauduleny Soc Sec # Fradulent Slective Service Record, Passport Peeker lost his life 2 days after he peeked, shot dead in his car 2 days after papers got ahold of the story. What did he SEE? 24 yr old married with 1 baby boy saw Barry Soetoro Indonesia not AKA Barack Hussein Obama Kenya, Africa! Murder Never “solved” Barrys problem was “solved” justa few days before election with close race bet Hillary & himself, Hillary Clinton could have spilled the beans on Barry she new his Legal Name his Legal Citizenship.Remaing quiet she could handpick her job in the Soetoro Admin, Michelle was against VP Job. Joe Biden was picked for helping Barry out of a Sex scandle with help from Son Attn Gen Deaware office, back Seat Un-Safe Homo-Sexual Sex -Cocaine in Limo Larry Sinclair as the story goes Lie Detector test & passed cost 75,000 but the results disapeared before court proceeding warrant was on the net date of court & location. Barry & 47 yr old Donald Young Choir Dir Trinity United Murdered in his appt Boston Glob ran front page story was Senator Barack Obama involved? This story was burried 4th page printed 4 days after event then disappeared never to reapear again murder unsolved todate! Barry had alot of friensds at Trinity United Church South side of Chicago, Joe Biden VP Job, son turned down Sen seat of Barry Soetoro WHY? Where theirs Smoke theirs Fire. East room of WH is the prayer rug, Allah is great the prayer song, Barry states its the most beautiful sound at sun set. Barry Reads, Writes & Speaks perfect Arabic. WND.com Jerome Corsi 3 books on Barry aka Barack well documented best seller list both books. Get informed >Know the Enemy<!

      • LMW

        Tim, I would be very interested in seeing what your source of George Bush having ever uttered that statement is……considering that I googled it and found it only mentioned by posters in comment sections on blogs – much like you have done here. IF that had actually been said, I would think that hundreds of pages referencing and explaining, condemning or justifying that statement would also be found.

        Prove your source – or you are simply spreading liberalist/progressive/democrat propaganda………

      • Tim

        LMW,

        Apparently you don’t watch the news on TV because that’s where I saw it. I think all of the stations broadcast it at the time. Look a little harder.

      • texastwin827

        Tim…you don’t know many true conservatives, do you?

        I did NOT vote for George for Gov of TX and darn sure didn’t vote for him as my President! He accomplished little before becoming Gov. He was NOT the “owner” of the Texas Rangers…he was a MINORITY owner but the media blew his ownership up to a degree that you would have thought he was the sole owner. MOST of the $$’s he made prior to the Governorship were made, thanks to his father’s guidance, not his own intellect or industrious nature.

        The programs that were good for TX were started by Gov Ann Richards but because they bore good results, even after she left office, Bush took credit for them even though he had nothing to do with them. Bush was every bit as bad as the current President when it comes to making up his own rules and ignoring the Constitution.

        In most cases, when a conservative votes, he has to try to pick the best of what he/she considers two evils. Rick Perry is an example…his 3rd term is the result of no one, here in TX, wanting to see Bill White turn TX into a “sanctuary STATE” like he turned the City of Houston into!

        As for TX generating jobs…Perry has nothing to do with that. This state has NEVER had a state income tax and, while our property taxes may be higher than some states, there are not so high that they are a deterrent for companies moving here when you consider the company & it’s employees don’t have to deal with state income taxes. We have sunshine and good weather most of the year…there are no blizzards that shut the state down for weeks at a time. We have A/C everywhere, so unless you work outside, even the 100 degree weather we get doesn’t stop jobs…unless you are a Northerner whose not use to it being above 85 :-) )

        Conservatives are just like any other American…we are tired of our Congress spending more than it will ever possibly take in and indebting our grandchildren and great grandchildren for the rest of their life.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Very good post texastwin827.

      • http://www.dauntlesspost.com Douglas Dauntless

        If it werenot for Bush, Obama woulkd not be President. Bush did more for Obama than anyone, as long as he was the Dictator. Bush sold out every Consevitive because he was tld too.

      • Old Henry

        Not hardly Tim, not hardly.

        As succinctly stated here by a poster – I cannot remember who – The only difference between Bush and Obama is that Obama has bigger ears and a better tan.

        Bush, or shrub as some comically refer to him, does not garner much praise on this site. Stick around and you will be enlightened.

      • JC

        Tim says:
        July 27, 2011 at 8:16 am
        I seem to remember a remark by George W. Bush: “A dictatorship wouldn’t be so bad, as long as I’m the dictator.” I suppose most of you agreed with him.
        ___________________________________________________________

        You suppose, wrong!

      • Always Right

        The difference, Tim, was that bush was joking. blacbarry is not only NOT joking, but IS a joke. The problem is that nobody is laughing because he does what he says he won’t. Just look at our own oil drilling shutdown, the illegal war in Libya (THIS guy should be tried for war crimes as this is a completely illegal war) if you doubt. And of course, being a glib-tard, you don’t know the difference between the two presidunces nor that the libya war is illegal.

      • http://www.bacchuswinecellars.com IMAGIFTS

        - when I said 2-3 yrs ago we cannot afford obama to be elected as we do we will have to take on the “consequences:. When ppl said and still are – that we would look like Europe and Greece … I said you’re sadly mistaken …. we’re headed (if we do not pay attention) to look more like cuba or venezuela with dictatorship …. some laugh some thought I was out there …. well, I am telling you now as I was then …. once you figure out these progressives (imago syndrome): who are not for you …. not for the poor (they enable them in their misery to get CONTROL over them) …. certainely for you all “Jewish Fools” … do you get it now that the dems are NOT your friends? they want Israel (thus your people) as much in the sea as do Hesbalah, Fathah and any other “terrorist” entity) … or thanks to obama not only Iran but soon Egypt (who has been the most on the side of Israel for several decades), Libya and all the other countries around there who are bound to fall soon AGAINST Israel … there is no time to be in “denial” anymore …. WAKE UP before it’s too late …. LISTEN to those whose predictions already are coming true and not to the lies of those who want to snowboard you (so to speak)…. the progressives are 3-6 yrs ahead of you in their “evil” planning …. only a handful of us who have paid attention are right on their heals or within 2 yrs of what is happening (that is why we told you so 2-2 1/2 yrs ago what’s around the pike) …. take ACTION and get your friends, family, colleagues to listen ….. we have a group online where I send all that Media Matters send us and all the conservatives, talk show hosts etc… are talking about … it can be your library to look at for answers … then research yourself like we have done … it is not difficult … once you are on track it will take minimum time to keep up and you will SAVE your COUNTRY from dictators, traitors and progressives alike …. for them it is all a GAME (yes you heard right) … and they’ve been waiting 40 yrs to get here … make sure our VOICE is HEARD … that they FAIL once and for all …. some of us even offer more having lived in socialized countries or had parents that did … some have families that lived thru the Holocaust … and the era that lead to it called the “hitler’s youth” … yes we’re here with the endocrination of our kids in school, colleges and universities by the likes of churchill in Colorado, Bill Ayres & Wife Borne … who are in charge to some degree of what is being taught in school… history is being erased and replaced by the progressive agenda …. great Presidents (Coolidge) are being ignored but bad ones are being promoted because it fits their causes (Roosevelt, Truman, Carter) etc… you think it doesn’t involve you so you don’t want to get involved … but it DOES involve you if you have kids, grand kids even more … it is THEIR FUTURE you are giving (throwing) away … ignoring what’s going on …. do you want them to live in restrictions such as cuba or venezuela or any socialist-communist-marxist countries or Russia … where you are a subject …. who owns NOTHING … they’ll take away your homes and/or you’ll share it with others … they’ve already talked about “taking away your retirement funds” and give it to those who don’t have one ….. or do you want them to live as you did in a “free” world? … where dreams, believes are OK …. where you can be free to be anything you want or become anything you want or do you want Gvt to tell you what you can do or say …. in short you will have to ask permission to breathe or sneeze? …. it is still YOUR CHOICE … but we’re almost at the point of no return if we don’t take our futures back…. we’re going to be history like Titanic … don’t think only about YOU but about everyone around you … your kids and their kids …. keep in touch, get the real story and see how stupid they think you are to “believe” the lies of outfits such as media matters (owned by george soros … google him to see what he has done to England in the 1990′s and has tried to destroy the euro for the past 10 yrs and was the power behind the 2008 bombshell of the market crash right before the election) … this is not a patriot … he’s a traitor to this country and hates everything we stood for … to whom he owes his fortune (ironic isn’t it?) … a jew hater that is one to start with (just like the capos in the german & polish war concentration camps)… while all of you were mourning you 401 becoming a 201 he actually celebrated his making millions or perhaps billions off your misfortune!…. does that sound right to you? …. not to me … yes you’re only one voice … so am I but if millions of “one voice” stick together WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE …. but an option we do NOT have is to give up … we must move forward and never forget what happens when ppl sleep or say it can’t happen here …. remember Hitler, Musselini, the Soviets, Chavez, Castro … and now obama? … is that what we want for our future? our kids and their kids? …. to be told what to do and what you won’t get if your sick or over 60 … you can’t get this or that surgery because you no longer a “productive” member of society? don’t believe me just hear what obama said about a 76 yrs old that needed a hip replacement he said perhaps surgery is not so much an option … just give her drugs for the pain (that will help the drugs co’s make $$ … not take away the pain) …. and that applies whether you can pay for it or not … they will still “oversee” what you can or cannot do or have ….it may also be a matter of your political association whether or not you’re “entitled” to certain procedure … who is really “fearmongering”? the progressives, marxists and socialists ….. keep yourself informed is the best way to defeat progressives and “their agenda” you’re welcome to subscribeng to westand united-subscribe @yahoogroups.com … that is how we know what’s up with what … scan through daily reports newsletters… shouldn’t take you more than 15-30 minutes of your time … it is a free investment in your future … go for it!

      • Penny Fuentes

        Dear IMAGIFTS, you are so very right. The day after the election, after awaking and finding obama had won, I cried ” Dear Lord, what have we done”? I wanted to vomit and that feeling happens whenever I hear obamas voice or see his face. I have hope, real hope, after seeing yours and other messages and seeing Sarah Palin, I know we can and will defeat this evil mongrel.

      • texastwin827

        Penny, Sarah Palin is not the answer nor is Michell Bachmann. This country is not ready for a woman president, yet. Unfortunately, if either of them win the nomination, it will put Obama in office.

        Please understand, I like what both ladies have to offer, but now is not the time for the Republicans to field a woman candidate…unless they want to lose the election to Obama.

      • Karolyn

        Oh, please, the man can’t even make a joke? Why would he not say what he said, given the question he was asked and the audience he had?

      • lkar

        Blaming Bush again!

      • BKWsr

        Karolyn are you serious, do you really believe that, or are you that naive. He’s only joking. Look at his actions. He’s trying to force Congress to do what he wants. They are not there to do his bidding. Those people in Congrass are there because they were voted for by people of their states. He has already lorded it over the Senate. As to your earlier comment about LaRaza(the race) It is the Mexican equivelent to The Black Panthers, KKK, and the Skin heads. I am married to a Latina Woman and know a bit about them.(thats just to let you know I am not prejudice)

      • Penny Fuentes

        Amen, La Razas mantra is: For the race and ONLY the race. AMERICANS of hispanic descent will not have anything to do with them.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Karolyn I think you have misread several thoughts. You might want to start reading from the beginning of the blogs to see what is going on.Not saying that to be rude or offensive, but something is wrong people are mistating several blogs.

      • itsjustme53

        Sounds like Hitler

    • Bossdog803

      Sean, That is our only way to save our country. Obammer is power crazy. He is a meglomaniac and a legend in his own mind. If you don’t see him as the largest threast to America is not listening to him. He is NUTS!!!!

      • Ellen

        This is true. Obama is nuts. He claims that he doesn’t want to bypass Congress and change a law on his own even though he has done many things by bypassing Congress. Only a true sociopath is capable of standing there and lying as effortlessly as telling the truth. Further, we know he’s bypassed before but he acts like he’s above doing it. Sociopaths have no shame and no conscience.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Ellen you are so right about obama, He is a sociopath. You can see the hatred in his eyes when he goes on a tangent. Watching him when face to face with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, one could see the contempt he felt the man. It is most likely the same look he has for America and Americans when no one is watching.

    • http://msn.com James Smith

      He’s been doing things on his own as is.What’s the surprise?He is such a jerk. He cares about everyone except the true American people.Take all of your free health care off of all up there,and pay for your own. Do that on your own!! Retire as cheep as the rest of us have to,not like you theives.You can cut alot right in congress and the senate You don’t deserve all for free Try living a real life and see how we are suffering because of all of you on the hill living free off of us.I could go on but why,he’ll screw us anyhow.Thanks JJS

    • oldtimeyman

      I’ve read and re-read the 14th Amendment (below) and nowhere do I find any hint that the occupant of the White House can use dictatorial power (Executive Order). What I read is the validity of the lawful debt cannot be questioned.

      “Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.”

      • Dan az

        oldtimeyman
        The thing that comes to my mind is that they, the state or gubmnt, can’t be sued!I just don’t see where it says that he can use a PEO to do anything, otherwise he would be a dictator.The problem lies with the constitutional authority that we give them and the supreme court will of course side with him as they have on every issue so far.Clinton is the one that suggested using the 14th to him,and tax cheat turbo man said he would use it if need be.Now coming from someone that was impeached sounds like he admires billy bob and thinks he can get away with it.And probably will try.

      • Doug

        Obama only mentioned the 14th Amendment to throw people off the scent. I did not say that he would use the 14th Amendment in any way to accomplish his nefarious ends. I said he would use an Executive Order to grant all illegals instant citizenship. Once that is done, how can any court undo it without rioting in the streets? He has a plan, and just like any magician, he gets you looking at his left hand so you don’t see what his right hand is doing. Pay attention.

    • http://www.popham08.ccom Christopher Popham Smith

      Be careful, Mr. President.
      Kindly do not be “tempted” to use Article 4 of the 14th Amendment or
      else, as many have suggested, you would be susceptible to impeachment, and
      we have enough challenges to face in this once great nation without
      engaging in such a political calamity.
      Lest we forget that it was Sec. of the Treasury, Geitner, who first
      ‘dreamed up’ the possibility of using the 14th Amendment as an executive
      order decree. And then a few days ago, it was touted and encouraged by
      none other than Bill Clinton.
      La Raza, Mr. President?
      What are you doing flirting with these people again? They could care less
      about our Constitution or the 14th. But then of course you are always seeking more votes from the Hispanic community…..aren’t you?
      Godd luck, America. Good luck.

      • Penny Fuentes

        My mother always told me , “If you lie down with trash you are going to end up smelling like garbage”. The stench coming from the White House is disgusting.

    • http://SteveQuayle Dale

      I’m Offened as a SOB that you called Obama a SOB! The Dictator and Chief dosen’t fit in that catagory! IMPEACH HIM NOW!!!!!

    • Larry Pierson

      Actually, this is going to backfire on Obummer. The 4th section in the 14th amendment he is referring to can also be interpreted to mean ‘thou shall not default on interest payments on the national debt’.

      I’d say lets call his bluff and show the work what a pathetic and pathological liar he is.

    • Old Henry

      Sean:

      Here is a copy of an email I received this morning. Things are looking up.

      Hawaii has until August 8, 2011, to produce documents and open the books for a full investigation. This order was delivered on July 5, 2011, under a direct order of the Supreme Court.

      VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

      AP – WASHINGTON D.C. -

      In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

      This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

      Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…

      LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !

      Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

      While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

      So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

      And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

      The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

      Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?

      A : Yes, by his own admission.

      Q: What passport did he travel under?

      A: There are only three possibilities.

      1) He traveled with a U.S. … Passport,

      2) He traveled with a British passport, or

      3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

      Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?

      A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

      Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

      If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

      Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.

      Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

      • JC

        He’s an imposter.

      • Penny Fuentes

        You have done your homework well Henry. I have brought up the trip to pakistan in 1981 and very few people knew we had a travel ban to that country. And obama has spent $1,970,000.00 trying to seal ALL HIS RECORDS. I ask you, Would you spend nearly 2 Million dollars if you weren’t a liar trying to hide your past and dupe The United States of America.

      • mickey

        This is the best news I’ve heard. My son went to Occidental and if obama were there as US, I’m sure my son would have written me to affirm it.

        Sealed college records? I had to prove mine for every job I had.

    • paintbrushbright

      Obama is recruiting more for his army of militants. He has the union goons, ACRON off branches, SICU, the America Communist party, Black Panthers the liberal news media and Chris Mathews. He is a community organizer that Lennon would be proud of.

    • Jack

      I agree but my question is. Why are we bothering with the debt celling when congress should have been busy with his impeachment 2 1/2 years ago.

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