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The Truth About The Israeli 'Occupiers'

May 24, 2011 by  

The Truth About The Israeli 'Occupiers'

Now that our dear leader has again shown his contempt for Israel and his sentimental attachment to radical Muslims, Israelis are feeling the heat from Jew haters worldwide more than at any time since World War II.  Obama’s modern-day version of the final solution is for Israel to simply cooperate in its own suicide by giving up the Golan Heights, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. (Predictably, he has since fudged a bit on the issue for political purposes.)

In exchange, the Israelis would get… you guessed it… absolutely nothing! The Muslims don’t even need the West Bank or the Gaza Strip. If Israel just gave the Golan Heights back to Syria (whom, we are reminded by Hillary Goofus, is ruled by a “reformer”), it would cease to exist in about a month. There’s nothing like looking down on your enemies from above and having the luxury of choosing the most efficient way to destroy them.

In 1967, after years of threatening to “wipe Israel off the map,” Egypt and other Arab countries finally mustered the courage to attack. They huffed and they puffed and… well, they blew their own house down, humiliating themselves and the entire Arab world in the process. Israel’s superior military forces crushed the puff-prone Arabs in six days, from whence came the name “Six-Day War.”

Since then, land annexed by the Israelis following that war has been referred to by the Muslim world and progressives in the Western world as “the occupied territories.” But what those who rail on about “Israeli occupation” of these territories either don’t realize or fail to acknowledge is that immediately following the Six-Day War, the Israeli government, in a gesture of goodwill, offered to return the Golan Heights to Syria, the Sinai peninsula to Egypt and most of the West Bank to Jordan in exchange for peace.

The defeated Arab nations responded to Israel’s offer by arrogantly declaring “no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no negotiations with Israel.” Hmm… not a whole lot of incentive for Israel to try to please their attackers.

An important fact of life that no one ever seems to mention when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian land dispute is that when you win a war, you take whatever pleases you (unless, of course, you’re the United States of America). When a bunch of lunatics who spend their lives focused on death and destruction threaten to kill you and then attack you, why in the world would they expect you to give back their land after you crush them? It’s simply not the way life works.

Here’s a tip to nations around the globe who harbor fantasies about hegemony: If you don’t want your land taken from you, don’t attack another country. Period. The Arab world needs to man up and take responsibility for the consequences of its actions. I think most Americans have passed the point of compassion fatigue when it comes to the Arab victimization game.

But there’s yet a harsher reality. Even if someone attacks you, and you lose, history teaches us that you’re still likely to have to give up some or all of your land. After the Normans invaded England in 1066 A.D., they didn’t negotiate with the Anglo-Saxons. They simply took over. And today, nearly 1,000 years later, no one questions the legitimacy of the British Royal Family.

It all comes under the heading of the Kick-Butt Reality of War, which is a subheading of life’s No. 1 rule: Life isn’t fair. Thus, it’s not surprising that neither the Maoris in New Zealand nor the Aboriginals in Australia ever got their lands back from the English. Although they are now independent nations, the descendants of their English conquerors pretty much run things Down Under.

The Maoris aren’t naïve enough to believe they are ever going to get New Zealand back, nor do the Aboriginals believe they are going to be handed the keys to Australia. Instead, the Maoris have pretty much fit into the Western way of life, and even the Aboriginals, who were treated much more shabbily than the Maoris, are making significant strides in acclimating to Western culture.

What makes the so-called Palestinian situation unique is that the Jews were already in old Jerusalem as far back as 6,000 years ago. But who got there first is a moot point, at best, because the city has been destroyed twice and changed hands 44 times over the millennia.

Furthermore, the Jews insist God gave them the land, and that’s a pretty strong debating point to overcome, even if you don’t agree with it. The truth is that the situation is so complex no one knows all the facts, and, worse, most of the loudest voices (such as those in Hollywood) know almost none of the facts. But some things are crystal clear:

Israel took a virtual wasteland and built it into a modern, democratic, wealthy nation that has given the world incredible breakthroughs in medicine, science and technology.

The so-called Palestinians have spent 64 years painting themselves as victims, living in poverty as a result of corrupt leaders (such as Yasser Arafat, who diverted billions of dollars in foreign aid to his personal bank accounts abroad), failing to engage in entrepreneurship and dissipating their energies by focusing on their hatred of Israelis.

Thousands of wars throughout history have left millions of people unhappy. Again, life isn’t fair, and the Kick-Butt Reality of Life always prevails, regardless of whether it displeases some people. (Think American Indians.) What I’m saying here is that the so-called Palestinian displacement is not unique. It’s time for Arabs to get over it and start focusing on living productive lives.

The “Mideast peace process” is a myth. When TV talking heads use a cliché like “jumpstart the Mideast peace talks,” you have to wonder if they are serious. The reality is that there will never be peace between Muslims and Israelis. How can you have peace when the stated goal of one side is to exterminate the other?

To make matters worse, we now have a U.S. President who encouraged the removal of one of our strongest allies, Hosni Mubarak, which opened the door for his beloved Muslim Brotherhood pals to take power. This, in turn, will likely lead to the abrogation of Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel.

Having said all this, I will make an unequivocal prediction right here and now: If Israel is ever destroyed and the Jews are banished from the Holy Land, nothing will change for Mideast Muslims. Nothing!

In other words, the fact that Jews now control Israel is a red herring. If Israel disappeared tomorrow, radical Muslims would start a frantic search for a new devil to blame for their dysfunctional lives. Nothing will change for the so-called Palestinians until they start acting like responsible adults and hold themselves accountable for their own failures.

They need to understand that when you continue to do the same thing over and over again, you are going to get the same result. Muslims worldwide need to start getting up every morning and focusing on constructive pursuits rather than spending all their time plotting new ways to kill Jews. To use a well-worn cliché, they need to get a life.

–Robert Ringer

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  • Dark Knight

    Kudos to Mr. Robert Ringer. Well explained article surrounding the factual politics and strategies of the past as well as the current situation in that particular region of the world. Unfortunately, we have a pretender-in-chief who is clueless when historical content or importance comes to bear. It is a shame that the liberal left’s whole mantra program is all about if the Republicans are all for something, they (Democrats) MUST be 180 degrees opposite regardless of the outcomes of such decisions.

    • bob wire

      Please don’t over act and over state. ~

      While I’d rather see us “not go there’ at all ~ if one must, this is only a staring point for discussing and opening of debate.

      “Openers” to a parlay that’s been used in the past by many other statesmen.

      You can’t expect Muslims cooperation and consideration if America jumps in bed with Israel first rattle out of the box or expect any talks to bear fruit. Now ~ can you?

      You bring your “game face” to such high level discussions.

  • Thor

    Looks to me like we’re done talking…so, like the Brian Keith character told Charlie Sheen, et al, in Young Guns, “Let’s dance!”

  • http://none Floyd Hardee

    Robert Ringer is a very intelligent man with great writing skills and has indeed much perception. He would make a great President or Vice President. Andrew Napolitano would make a great President or Vice President. Robert knows who Andrew is. He also knows Judge Napolitano is very knowledgeable in the laws of the land, has as quick wit, but is not easily deceived and you can not bully him. The two of them could easily hold their own against any candidate that wants to debate them on the issues of the day. Our common enemies (Liberal, Lucifer, Progressives, Communist, Socialist, etc.) do not want either one of these men in a position of authority. Our enemies don’t want us to have an honest government, there fore they don’t want you to elect honest, intelligent, and courageous men or women! Understand I still like Palin, and Bachman but these two men should be considered right along with them for a high office. we need these kind of leaders if we are to remain free, and if we are to return to prosperity.

    • eddie47d

      You say Ringer is a very intelligent man yet he blames Gaza on Obama when that territory was given up long before. He looses on his knowledge of history and is nothing more than a shill for the right. Ringer also says in his simplistic way of thinking that wars justify the ends.I guess that is the Bully Principle. I kick your ass and you have to lie down and accept it theory. Nothing great about that evil way of thinking. Israel certainly didn’t have to accept being bullied by Syria,Jordan,Egypt and the Saudis and the Palistinians don’t deserve to be bullied by territorial grabs. Israel is the deal maker and it’s up to them to find common ground for a Palestinian State. The West Bank and Gaza don’t always get along either. To protect Israel from giving up land I say form 2 Palestinian homelands and be done with it. Another solution is to “demand” that Gaza forms with Egypt and totally breaks away with the West Bank. The Golan Heights is an issue with Syria and not a part of the Palestinian solution and has to be dealt with separately.If you want some of the problems to go away in the Middle East then work for eliminating the bitterness that lingers in this region. Since all roads lead to Israel they have to be the catalyst in mending the rift. Obama is right in demanding action between these two stubborn people. Unless you want us to continually be dragged into the fray.

      • always right

        “Jerusalem” (that is to say, modern Israel) was around before that bastard religion call ‘islam’ was ever invented by a megalomaniac in a drugged stupor. If the Palestinians need a homeland, let them cut a hunk out of Jordan or Syria. That way they can live in peace with the rest of Esau’s “wild asses of the desert” crowd. Why would it have to come out of Israel, other than the obvious reasons: “it weakens Israel”.

      • Vigilant

        eddie,

        “If you want some of the problems to go away in the Middle East then work for eliminating the bitterness that lingers in this region. Since all roads lead to Israel they have to be the catalyst in mending the rift.”

        “Work to eliminate the bitterness?” Yes, by all means, but concentrate your efforts at the source. Let’s see, who brings up their children and schools them to hate another nation? Who aims their rockets and blasts their bombs indiscriminately to maximize the casualties of innocent people? Who was given over 90% of their demands by Ehud Barak and walked away from the negotiating table? Who democratically elected a leadership (Hamas) that does not recognize another country’s right to even exist? What leadership (PLO) has taken billions and billions of dollars meant for basic food and medical aid, pocketed most of it and spent the rest on weapons of terror?

        Then, let’s ask, what country (the ONLY country) in that area has a democratic form of government? Who has turned a desert into a prosperous, thriving example of capitalism and free choice? What nation has made such advances in science, medicine, and technology while bringing up the prosperity of its people? In which country’s courts can a Palestinian bring court suit and have success?”

        “Obama is right in demanding action between these two stubborn people. Unless you want us to continually be dragged into the fray.”

        Neither Obama nor any of the many presidents before him has had the right to demand any action of these people.

      • JeffH

        Vigilant, very well said.

      • Thamera

        Exactly and it is very naive and simplistic to think (Eddie) that this is the only issue that Muslims have a problem with. You should really take note of how the Muslims have treated and are treating their neighbors in the Sudan and then tell me how interested they are in “peace” and “co-existence”.

      • eddie47d

        Sudan is a border dispute between two countries who were once connected. Would you say all Christians are evil because they killed each other in our Civil War?

      • eddie47d

        Vigilante; Why do we subsidize Israel with 4 billion and the Palestinian Territories with a lesser amount(about 1 billion) if it is none of our business. If these two entities want to survive on their own then let’s pull the plug and save that tax money for urgent needs here. Either that or it is our business what the outcome is.

  • Varian Wrynn

    Nice of you to mention New Zealand and Australia, but what about the US? The US flat out took Hawaii with military force in 1893, for which the US Congress officially apologized (“Sorry Queen Lili`oukalani for taking your islands, but we’re still keeping them”). If the Obama wants Isreal to give back land, he should set the example, and give back Hawaii, or give back all of the US that was either taken illegally or through war. Leadership by example. Oh wait, “Leadership” and “Obama” in the same sentence – what was I thinking?

    Sad part is, the electorate is going to re-elect the Obama so he can complete his “Change.” What we’ve seen in the last 2 years is only a preview of the next six :(

  • Bernard Johnson

    Pretty soon the American people will wake up and see the atrocities that the rest of the world already sees going on in the middle east sine 1948.

    A good friend of mine said the reason everything is OK with the European take over of the USA 300 years ago was because all of the rightful dwellers were NOT displaced but were pretty much killed – genocide.

    The mistake of the US and the Jews they cater too was NOT killing all of the Palestinians in 1948, and this is why now there is such a huge problem.

    9-11 and other various attacks are due to US foreign support of Israel. Go to YouTube and search on either “What motivated the 9/11 hijackers ? See testimony most didn’t” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg) or “Purpose of the 9/11 Attacks” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wK72Snm6Y)

    It is not because of “freedom”.

  • bob wire

    Question, ~ was confiscation paid to anyone on this procurement of land in 48? ~ and I take it that this land now in question was not a part of the original land of 48″ but was taken over in defense of this land? ~ A buffering land captured via conquest?

    You know, DMZ and buffer zones is standard practice between waring neighbors and not the best place for a snow cone stand much less a home.

  • http://LibertyAlert Ray Jarman

    I have arguing Robert Ringer’s point for years (since before I was working towards my MA in International Relations). A more valid argument about losing wars and land territories is Germany’s loss of territory after both WW1 and WW2. In more than fifty years, I have never heard one proponent for the restoration of Alsace Lorraine, Jutland and parts of old Prussia (now Poland). Since 1946, not one major politician from the FDP, SDP or CDU has ever complained out loud. Poland, which lost huge portions of its eastern borders, has accepted its fate. Even here in the Americas, Bolivia comes to mind. It was not always a landlocked country begging Peru and Chile for a corridor to the Pacific.

    Talking about indigenousness peoples from New Zealand, the Indian Nations of the USA or the Aboriginal Tribes in Australia is quiet different than anything in the last century.

    Ringer’s point about negotiating with an enemy whose reason d’être is to completely destroy you would be masochistic. It has to be noted that the PLO has never officially renounced the Cairo Pact and even if Arafat had, Mohammad taught that perfidy is acceptable in the quest for the annihilation of an enemy (any non Muslim). I have arguing Robert Ringer’s point for years (since before I was working towards my MA in International Relations). A more valid argument about losing wars and land territories is Germany’s loss of territory after both WW1 and WW2. In more than fifty years, I have never heard one proponent for the restoration of Alsace Lorraine, Jutland and parts of old Prussia (now Poland). Since 1946, not one major politician from the FDP, SDP or CDU has ever complained out loud. Poland, which lost huge portions of its eastern borders, has accepted its fate. Even here in the Americas, Bolivia comes to mind. It was not always a landlocked country begging Peru and Chile for a corridor to the Pacific.

    Talking about indigenousness peoples from New Zealand, the Indian Nations of the USA or the Aboriginal Tribes in Australia is quiet different than anything in the last century.

    Ringer’s point about negotiating with an enemy whose reason d’être is to completely destroy you would be masochistic. It has to be noted that the PLO has never officially renounced the Cairo Pact and even if Arafat had, Mohammad taught that perfidy is acceptable in the quest for the annihilation of an enemy (any non Muslim).

    • bob wire

      Great read Ray. Point well taken.

    • WoodPecker

      Those days were the savage era before having any established International organizations and laws. So, your Jewish rationalization is quited wicked.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So all those organization that the Arabs formed to promote peace were lies.

      • bob wire

        Seems like! since Hamas fails to accept Israel right to exist is a “no starter” of sorts. ~ What do you think?

      • Vigilant

        Meanwhile, we could have counted on Mubarak to hold the lid on any provocations of Israel. Now that he’s gone, the “democratic” Muslim factions that end up ruling Egypt will no doubt accede to the wishes of the Egyptian majority that the Egypt-Israeli Pact be scrapped.

        Such freedom-loving Muslims, eh?

    • Tom

      Mr. Jarman failed to mention, or does not know, that Panama is an “Invented” country, carved out of Colombia so that the US could build the Panama Canal. So that begs the question, should Panama now cease to exist and be returned to Colombia??

      • Michael J.

        Tom,
        The big question is, when the map of Pangaea was violently redrawn by the radical forces of Plate Tectonics, does the former supercontinent have any reclamation rights?

      • always right

        It already has ceased to exist. It has, in effect, been ceded & deeded to China. nothing like letting your enemy control your navy’s, oil, shipping and goods shipping “from (one) sea to (the other)shining sea”. But jimmuh cottah and the billzebubba/hildebeest “we are the president” team never met a commie they didn’t love so kiss it goodbye.

  • Ivan

    Like children in a sandbox! “My daddy is stronger than your Daddy” Our reliance on religious beliefs to guide us are at the root of these global problems. The energy expended in wars and conflict to prove one religion’s superiority can never result in a positive impact. The fact is that most of the world cannot provide for itself because they know only how to create conflict. How to take, not how to produce. People beholding to a government for food and their basic needs will gladly spend their day throwing rocks. Give these people a purpose other than to kill one another in a battle designed by despots, and the world has a chance. A people unwilling to support its needs should starve. The world would be a better place without them and their leaders.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Goldenman

    Hello Anthony,
    You hit the nail square on the head, but there is much more, even worse than man can believe! I´ll be back enjoying your comments and maybe I´ll add mine one day before that final day comes! Thank you again:

  • Jim

    IN 2012 , IF YOU THINK THE CHOICE ISN’T CLEAR , THINK AGAIN ,…..IT IS!!!
    YOU CAN VOTE FOR A LYING , WAR CRIMINAL, COMMUNIST,SOCIALIST,
    ,MARXIST, MUSLIM, OR
    …..A REAL AMERICAN PATRIOT, ITS VERY SIMPLE AND ANY RED BLOODED AMERICAN SHOULD
    HAVE NO PROBLEM MAKING THIS DECISION………………

    ON MAY 1 2011 THE US NAVY SEALS KILLED THE NUMBER TWO MUSLIM
    TERRORIST OF THE USA …..IN 2012 LETS VOTE OUT THE NUMBER ONE MUSLIM
    TERRORIST IN THE USA,

    BHO = AMERICAS PUBLIC ENEMY MUSLIM TERRORIST NUMBER ONE

    http://www.AllenWestforPresident.us

    • http://DoULoveJesus.org Mark

      I guess you didn’t know – Bin Laden has been dead for the last 9 years- but he was never indicted for 9/11 as he was for the embassy bombings

      The terrorists are those that lied to us – lies only have power when people believe them. Christ said that the Truth would set us free – then it follows that lies enslave

      DoULoveJesus.org

    • eddie47d

      Jim; If Allen West thinks like you then no one will vote for him.I hope he knows you are working on his team.

  • Thinking About

    If the US should “butt” out just where do you think Isreal would find themselves in a short time. We have worked for peace for many years and mostly to preserve Isreal. They need to look to living with their neighbors and seek a road to peace.

    • Michael J.

      Thinking About,
      If the Palestinians laid down their arms today, there would be no more violence.
      If the Israelis laid down their arms today, there would be no more Israel.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thank you for a really good post.

      • combatvet

        Obviously Think About It is incapable of thought! These blogs do reinforce one overriding theme, the term moron is constantly being validated!

      • JeffH

        Michael J, in a nutshell, it really is that simple.

    • Q

      I can many Jews in here are attacking you, and anyone else who’s rightly critical of Israel. I say Fart at them in self defense.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are a blooming idiot. Don’t blame the Jews because you are human failure.

      • Vigilant

        Bravo, Nadzieja!

        And ditto on your comment.

    • Thamera

      Mhm..perhaps you should tell that to the people of the Sudan who have lost their lives, homes, land, everything at the hands of their “Muslim Brethern” and this just in the last couple of decades.

      • Thamera

        That comment was for Thinking About and at the very least learn how to spell the place ISRAEL>

  • Dntmkmecmoverther

    Hey Obama, what about our ‘occupied’ territories of California and Texas? You want to abandon them to Mexico once more? How about Alaska which was bought for a whim? Because we in essence ‘stole’ Alaska, shall we deed that back too? What an inept piece of work this president has shown himself to be. He can’t seem to define the borders of his own country but he is quick to discern a problem with borders overseas…what irony! What stupidity! And this latest imbecilic move against not our enemy, but Israel, the only ally we have in the middle east. I’m tellin ya, I have never seen such poor, inept foreign policy leadership. I pray we get this hooligan out of office sooner than 2012.

    • Wayne937

      Hey! Dntmkmecmoverther, I hope Obama does not read your blog, or he may be willing to give California, and Texas back to Mexico. He will do anything to please our adversaries.

    • eddie47d

      The Russians controlled Alaska and we bought it at a fair price at that time. Then again neither Russia or the US asked the Eskimos what they thought of the deal.It’s all about territorial power.

    • Tom

      Read some History…we did not steal Alaska. We bought it from the Russians for 7 million dollars.

  • George

    “Earth” wrote:

    “Why all this Jew love?
    The Jews occupy stolen land.
    Israel was created in 1948 by the United Nations.
    They just cut pieces of land off from other nations,
    occupied it and called it Israel.”

    It was called Israel long before that. You need to read a bit of history. Also, it’s not as though Jews hadn’t been living there all along since they had. Those miserable excuses for human beings called Palestinians should have all US aid cut off. With the Muslim Brotherhood gaining control of Egypt, it’s aid should also be terminated. The so-called Palestinians were actually Jordanians so they should have a right to return — to Jordan.

    • Wayne937

      George, I think all U.S. aid should be cut off during our dire economic situation in this country. They have cut out any SS increases for the seniors for the last 2 years, but they continue giving foreign aid. Remember, the seniors have paid in to this program for their retirement any place from 20 to 50 years. What has the foreign governments given us? The only thing they have contributed are headaches. All foreign aid should be stopped and drilling for American Oil should begin immediately. When are the folks in this country going to wake up and demand this. I have made a post on this website, and several others places, for people to see how their Congress Member is voting. Let’s see if they use it.

    • WoodPecker

      But the European Jews came over and displace the Arabs(Palestinians) who’d been living there for ages.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        That land was a wasteland before the European Jews settled there.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Nadzieja Batki,
        That is crap.The Arabs were driven out and off their land to starve.The thanks goes to Joseph Stalin,he help established and created the so called Jewish home land, by supplying military hardware to the jews.It puts me in the mind of the American Indians,they were too driven out and killed.Don’t believe it,check it out.

        .

      • combatvet

        You obviously have spent too much time in the coal mine. Your statement about Stalin is pure poppycock. It absolutely was a wasteland and it was the at one time the ancestral land of Israel thus their right to claim it. The Palestinians are not a people, Palestine was a place inhabited by Jews ancient times! They are nothing but a created group of disaffected Jordanians placed there to push Israel into the sea. Million of square miles in the surrounding muslim nation and not one inch of land for these cast out Jordanians. It was a plan from the very beginning to destroy Israel who occupies the ancestral land, a mere narrow strip of it!

        Keep inhaling the coal dust, it has done wonders for your critical thinking skills…..geesh!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You haven’t studied history.

      • JC

        hey Commie Miner, how does that explain the higher standard of living enjoyed by Arabs living “in” Israel?

      • Kate8

        WP – Just from where do you think the European Jews originated?

        They were scattered into Europe when they were driven from the HolyLand. Hence, the prophecy that they would regather in the land given them by God, now called Israel.

  • Earth

    The author of this article, Robert Ringer, is a Jew?
    That’s why Robert has such Jew love?
    America and all its resources MUTS always be available for Israel at NO cost.
    How nice.
    Israel commits crime after crime, wants all the support from everybody, does nothing (good) and just demands.
    War after war just for Israel.
    The oil price going through the roof, of course controlled by the Jew Rockefeller.
    America bankrupt, thanks to the Jews Rothschild.
    The Jews call us non-Jews Goym.
    Goym means cattle.
    That is what we are to them.
    Just cattle. To be disposed of at their will.
    Us non-Jews exist only to serve the Jews.
    That is according to the Jewish Talmud.
    And look around you. That is exactly how it is.

    • Jim

      the author of this post ”earth says” wrote about somthing it knows NOTHING about, perhaps it should pick up a history book and read it …if it can read….the post was nothing but more of the same ol same ol hate from the far left American hating muslim loving communist democrats

      • Colleen

        You got that one right. People like this are constantly on the side of the Muslims and anyone else who irrationally hate Jews.
        I, for one, not only love the Israelis, but I respect them.
        The Muslims??? I have no respect nor would I trust one. Just ask the families of 9/11 victims, the Ft Hood victims and survivors…and many others just to name a few.

      • combatvet

        Earth is not living on this planet, don’t be fooled! What a joke!

    • Wayne937

      This is because the stupid American Citizens will not demand it from their Congress Member. I am telling you, if enough people would get on the band wagon and demand their Congress Members to do, or not to do something, it would get done, If not, then there is a time to vote these lame idiots out of office, and let them get a real job.

    • Allan Halbert

      Goy, which you misspelled, does not mean cattle. It means nation in Hebrew and non-Jew, or gentile in Yiddish. This is only one of the lies in your post.

      • Colleen

        Thank you for pointing that out!

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Earth,

      You forgot Joseph Stalin,he was the actual founding father of modern Isreal.
      His real name was(Joseph Vissariionvich Dzhugashvilli)according to some sources,the last name meant Jewson. The same sources said his father was a Jew and his mother, a Christian. Some of Stalin’s grandchildren are still living in Isreal,the others resided in Georgia.

      • Vigilant

        “You forgot Joseph Stalin,he was the actual founding father of modern Isreal [sic].”

        With a comment like that, there’s no doubt that any tonnage of fact and logic could ever sway you. You belong in a mental institution.

  • m allen

    To Hell with the muslims, and their buddy Pooki, in the White HOuse…

    • LUTFI DAJANI

      WHAT A TYPICAL WHITE STUPID TRASH, YOU WHITE HATFULL PEOPLE USED TO LIVE IN CAVES WHEN MUSLIMS CONTRIBUTED TO SCIENCE AND MEDICINE.
      GO READ SOME BOOKS INSTEAD THE PORNO MAGS AND COMICS YOU GREW UP ON WATCHING YOUR DADDY DOING IT.

      • JeffH

        LUTFI DAJANI, like the porno mags and DVD’s your dead Muslim hero was watching prior to his execution in Pakistan.

        Of course, Muslims often prefer to exhibit their sexual deviations in corrals or behind the closed entries to their childrens quarters.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Actually you haven’t contributed anything of any value to the world.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Lutfi Dajani,

        You are violation of our comment policy. If you cannot contribute to the conversation in a respectful manner you will be blacklisted.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The highest consumption of porn is in the middle east.
        You are a liar. You have not an iota of proof of who uses porn,so stop lying about the posters.

      • Carlucci

        Yep, and guess who are the biggest “patrons” of the prostitutes and porn bars in Bangkok? Guess who are the most obnoxious drunks on the airplanes flying to Bangkok? You guessed it – the mooslims!!

      • JC

        Lutfi is probably Jovi. ;)

      • Carlucci

        JC – I never thought of that, but you could be right.

      • Carlucci

        I would be happy if Bob Livingston banned this disgusting person right now.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Bob L. can check from where he posts.

      • Kate8

        LUTFI – Nothing here, even from the worst liberals, compares to the hate coming from you.

        You can take your religion of hate and return to the land of beheadings and lopped off hands and feet.

        No way would any sane person EVER convert to your evil, vile way of thinking and living.

  • http://usintel.net Bill from Laos

    This is one of the most lucid, revealing, analyses of the Jewish-Arab
    impasse. Yes, Muslims should start to concentrate on progress for
    their future, but they won’t because they’re too corrupted and mentally
    disfunctional. Don’t these words describe the leftist-progressives hereP
    in America? These clowns following the Clown in Chief with their hatred
    and contempt for producers. If they focused on getting off their asses and
    applying their skills productively, we all would be better off. But they won’t
    do that either.

    • WoodPecker

      You are truly a knucklehead!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Stop knocking yourself out on those trees,human woodpecker. Your brain cannot stand the repeated stress.

      • Vigilant

        His brain dribbled out of his ears long before he started posting on this site.

    • JC

      That’s about right Bill.

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    Arabs are not the problem. Muslims are the problem. They are very peaceful people who only insist that you peacefully do everything they demand

  • Earth

    Why all this Jew love?
    The Jews occupy stolen land.
    Israel was created in 1948 by the United Nations.
    They just cut pieces of land off from other nations, occupied it and called it Israel.
    The Jews have caused enough damage on this planet.
    The entire US economy is in Jewish hands.
    The FED belongs to the Jews, a private Jew bank.
    The FED is killing America.
    And you still side with the Jews?
    My man, inform yourself.

    • American Citizen

      Are you for real? Yes, this government needs to stop relying on the Fed. But to blame the Jews is ridiculous. Is Obama a Jew? Look at what he’s done.

      • WoodPecker

        Look, he’s a puppet! Look at the people he surrounds himself with — people at high/important positions that can really do demage; it’s the sordid Jews again! Wake Up, people!

      • Kate8

        Come on, you guys. The NWO and affiliates may claim to be a lot of things, including Jewish, but what they are are worshippers of Lucifer.

        There are devout, God-loving Jews and there are secular Zionists. There are sincere Christians and there are those who claim the name but have never read the Word. And there are those who believe in nothing but things of the flesh.

        It’s ridiculous to blame all Jews for what is being done by those who, in truth, have no connection to Judaism.

        And for those who would protest the same for Muslims, let me remind you that Jews and Christians are not ordered by God to kill all non-believers. Muslims are, and do, kill in the name of Allah. None but satan would command such a thing.

    • wandamurline

      Read the scripture, and after doing so, then tell me that the Israelies are not the owners of the land…this conflict goes back centuries.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        wandamurline,

        You are full of it;like the myths in the Bible .The Palestine area doesn’t belong to the Jews,it belongs to the Arabs.Jews must leave the Middle East in order to achieve a lasting peace.We can’t keep backing them forever,we are running out of resources and money.It is time we put our foot down.No more aid,no more protection,and certainly no more giving sensitive technology to Isreal, that may one day come home to Haunt us.Remember China?

      • DaveH

        The world doesn’t belong to us. We belong to the world. And the world chose me to be it’s spokesperson. The world wants you leave, coal miner.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        DaveH,

        The world may want a pompous jackass like you to leave.Spokeperson? Boy, they are getting desperate. Now we all can have a laugh.

      • Kate8

        coal – I suppose you are one of those who think we should all leave and give North America back to the Mexicans and the Indians.

        You are a real piece of work.

      • JC

        Coal Miner, America doesn’t belong to communists…you must leave America. :)

      • Kate8

        JC – Not so long ago it was an act of treason to be a communist in America.

        We need to bring that back.

      • JC

        We “are” bringing it back.
        Why do you think they are getting so nervous? ;)

    • Conservative at Birth

      The Hebrews have been on this land for 6,000 years. It has been stolen and occupied by Persians, Muslims, Crusaders, and others during that time period. Do you actually know any Jews? Are you anti-semetic? If so, how can you justify your hatred of these people?

    • Penny Fuentes

      The Jews and “Palestinians” were given the same amount of barren, unproductive land in 1948. The Palestinians did nothing to improve their land, it was finally taken over by Jordan and Syria. Meanwhile, The Israelis have improved and built a beautiful country where Jews, Christians,and Muslims live in peace. So if you want to hate “Israel” do it under the real context of your thoughts-hateful and irrational Anti-Semitism. When the haters of Israel stand before God and answer for their actions I wonder who they will blame then.

    • Earths Face

      Nazis are still alive and well. The names have been changed…but still the same players.

      • bob wire

        It always been about labels and little to do with content on the “sales” end.

        The boot on the neck comes after the sale.

    • http://pi-news.net George

      @Earth ..Why all this Jew love? I can told you what happens..when the Jews Nation Israel should being trowed back to the see, then the war against unbelievers does not stop… the next victims will follow, READ the Koran, Sharia and Hadithe. Muslims are the first victims of their own religion. Example: If you not pray 5 times per day you are at least on of the unbelievers and your “personal freedom live” will be changed very fast to the danger zone. Look @all Americans it exist some detailed plans to destroy the USA from within…listen to this undercover Mosque in London…(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc7PqjD_S3s) All People where did to you that is only some freedom stuff written in the holy book, told them you act as taqujia.

    • thinking

      Earth, who do you think created: Iran, Iraq, and the other middle east countries? Check the internet and you may find that all were created by the europeans.

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Such ignorance; where to begin…
      1) Israel was not deemed ‘there’ in 1948. it was re established in 1948. Go grab an Old Testament survey and look at Israel in 700bc. Then you will see your error.
      2) You say, “Israel commits crime after crime, wants all the support from everybody, does nothing (good) and just demands.” Oh, so when MASAD helps our CIA for the last 40 yrs what do you call that? What crimes are you referring to? retaliating to rocket attacks which occur daily by Palestinians? ‘Does nothing good’…are you referring to the fact that for every 2-300 rocket attacks on their civilian areas they launch one attempt to stop those attacks?
      3) Oil Prices controlled by Rockefeller? Are you serious? OPEC and Obama are in charge of the fluctuation highs right now. Obama because the idiot banned drilling/mining for it on our turf; OPEC due to its ability to control production within the middle east (by the way, Israel has no oil…they put up with these ass arab oil prices too)
      4) America is bankrupt why? Because of inept leadership from both parties…but mainly because of Democrats who just don’t know how to stop spending other people’s money. The entitlements of this generation command over 50% of the debt today…where the hell is Rockefeller in this equation?

      Antisemitism is so cliche…why not grow up and put the blame on ourselves where it is due? In 2012, change the leadership of this great nation. Vote the imbeciles out.

    • WoodPecker

      America will take care of these sordid Jews here — they are really the problem!

      • Vigilant

        No, Peckerwood, sordid people like you have always been the problem.

      • bob wire

        No Peckerhead, ~ stupid Americans come in all favors, sizes and faiths and life it’s self that has a way of thinning them out without anyone lifting a hand. It just takes too long sometimes for some of us and we wish to hasten the process.

    • Colleen

      How ignorant.
      Please see my earlier post and again I suggest you do some actual research on your own from multiple sources, not just from Media Matters, the huffington puffington post and others alike.

    • Tom

      The United nations did NOT create isreal. The British did. The US was the first nation to recognize Isreal.

    • LUTFI DAJANI

      THANK YOU EARTH,
      ANY HOW GOD WILL NEVER FORGET AND LET THEM KEEP ON GOING, THERE IS JUSTICE AND THIER IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE DARK TUNNEL.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    He is a pos muslim loving bastard.

    • LUTFI DAJANI

      This realy shows how hatefull and stupid christians are.
      any how, your religion is a myth and your Jesus is not what you think.
      after all if there is any basterds it is you sean, do you know who is your real father is?

      • JEFF GORDON

        You show how hateful and stupid YOU are – Obama IS a pos muslim loving bastard.

      • American Citizen

        What has this to do with religion? This has to do with the Muslims wanting to annihilate Israel. It’s all about the land.

      • Conservative at Birth

        All wars are about land, natural resources, and of course, slavery.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        American Citizen:

        They just want their land back,it was stolen from them.
        It is theirs, not the mythical Israelites.

      • Penny Fuentes

        Mr.Dajani, How do you know by the several words written by Sean that he is a Christian? Yet, by your verbage we can pretty well guess you are a Muslim, anti-Christian, anti-Semite.The Christian religion is not a “myth”, it can be and has been proven.

      • LUTFI DAJANI

        REALY, PROVEN BY WHOME? YOUR DRUNKEN POPE OR GAY PRIESTS?
        JEWS AND ARABS ARE BOTH SEMATICS, AND CHRISTIANS ARE [offensive word removed] WHO THINK THIER JESUS DIED FOR THEM AND HE IS GOD, PLEASE GET REAL AND START THINKING.
        CHRISTIANTY IS BASED ON GREECK METHOLOGY NOTHING MORE.
        AND HOW ABOUT YOUR STUPID SANTA CLAUSE? YOU GUYS ARE SICK AND STUPID.
        JESUS WILL BE BACK TO SURPRISE YOU ALL THAT YOU WERE NOTHING BUT [offensive word removed] AND DEMON FOLLWERS AS WELL AS STATUE WORSHIPPERS BECAUSE YOU WORSHIP A SYMBOL THAT IS THE CROSS, WHAT IF JESUS DIED ON A CHAIR, WOULD YOU STILL WERE A CHAIR AS A NECKLAS?

      • JeffH

        LUTFI DAJANI, are you still upset over the reported “execution” of Bin Laden?

      • Carlucci

        Well, one thing he is right about is the part about Jesus coming back to TCB. All muslims believe that as it is written in the Koran.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        LUTFI DAJANI,

        Christianity was borrow from Mithraism and Greek mythology.

        http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/orrp/index.htm

      • wandamurline

        If you do not know Jesus as your saviour, please take some time and get to know him because we are closer to armaghedian that you think. The Bible prophecies are being played out faster than you can blink your eyes. Your soul and eternity will be seen soon, and I will pray that you get to know God as your saviour.

      • Alon

        Thats like saying this shows how hateful and stupid people with red hair are. What a bigot.

      • Jack Carver

        Mr. or Ms. Dajani,

        You are obviously:

        1. Not an American
        2. Not a Christian
        3. Do not know who your father is
        4. Are muslum

      • LUTFI DAJANI

        I AM PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM, NOT A BASTERD CHRISTIAN.
        THE REAL AMERICANS IN THIS LAND ARE THE NATIVES WHOME YOU MASSACARED [offensive words removed].
        GO LOOK AND ASK HOW MANY WHITE AND BLACK AS WELL AS EUROPIANS ARE TURNING TO BECOME MUSLIMS.
        JESUS DO EXSIST AS WE BELIEVE IN HIM BUT HE NEVER DIED FOR YOU AND HE WILL NEVER WILL.
        ANY HOW, KEEP ON DREAMING IN YOUR FANTACIES.
        LOOK WHAT IS GOD IS DOING TO YOU AND WILL KEEP ON DOING.
        CALIFORNIAN WILL FALL IN THE OCEAN AND NY WILL BE UNDER WATER, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO, FIGHT GOD?

      • JC

        Back! back to the 7th century with you! LOL

      • Carlucci

        And then off with his head -!! LOL -!!

      • Kate8

        LUTFI – How can you say, with a straight face, anything about Christians slaughtering anyone?

        Muslims make their way around the world slaughtering. When you run out of infidels, you slaughter other Muslims.

        Islam is the only religion (that I know of) that commands you to slaughter, torture, maim and enslave.

        Christianity forbids it.

        Say what you will, but your Mahdi fits the Bible’s description of antichrist perfectly. Islam is the army of satan.

      • http://facebook john

        LUTFI DAJANI says:
        May 24, 2011 at 12:57 pm
        I AM PROUD TO BE A MUSLIM, NOT A BASTERD CHRISTIAN.

        the bible warned us about the last days.yhe events are unfolding in lock step with revolations. God also warned us about (YOU) he called you a (FALSE PROPHET).

      • Thamera

        Well I think Lutfi Dajani has just illustrated perfectly why peace is impossible in the middle east. LMAO

      • http://personalliberty.com frank

        Then it is me along with Sean he’s a pos muslim loving bastid! pos loves pieces of s–t!.

      • Colleen

        YOU are the ignorant and hateful one! Obama is a Lying Muslim in Chief. We will, as Christians, pray for God to have mercy on him when his time on earth is through. We also pray for him to make good decisions……unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to be able to hear or maybe just doesn’t give a damn!
        As for my father………at least I had one who loved only one wife and didn’t teach his children to hate others as yours obviously did.
        Don’t like us? Feel free to leave our country and return to whatever sand box you came from.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        What group are you posting for?

      • Robinson

        It’s all about groups and labels for you – who cares about the issue right?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So now you are claiming Jesus as your own.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Reread your own post and see how stupid and hateful you are.

      • combatvet

        Hateful is your joke of a religion with zero tolerance for anyone else and their beliefs. Religion of peace, give me a brake, you call for the death of anyone does not by into your medieval military manual posing as a bible! This is America, we raise our children to be successful not to be vehicles for bombs targeted at women and children. We’re also not cowards that hide behind women and children in combat!

        Why don’t you go back where you came from, obviously we aren’t backward enough for you!

      • Robin, Arcadia, IN

        Lutfi… Your world is dark and unkind to you, isn’t it?

  • crystal

    Is Obama going to roll our borders back to 1967?

    • JEFF GORDON

      No – that pos muslim loving bastard must roll our borders back to pre 1812 if he wants Israel to roll IT’S borders back to pre-1967.

    • http://personalliberty.com frank

      word is crystal he’s thinking of giving Texas back to Mexico!.

      • JC

        It ain’t his to give. ;)

    • eddie47d

      Crystal; 1967 wasn’t a bad year overall. So what was your foolish point? An attempt at humor??

      • JeffH

        Why the use of the word “foolish” in your comment to Crystal?
        I think you should apologise, she made no disparaging remark directed at you!

      • eddie47d

        Right Jeff!! Look at all the disparaging words you make towards others and they are all waiting for an apology. You are quite the oddball.

      • JeffH

        Polly47D, I suppose that will be your excuse then…because somebody else did it?

      • eddie47d

        Jeff; There are no borders to roll back to in 1967 America You are as dumb as Crystal is silly. Smoke and mirrors to keep others off the subject, right Jeff? Go back to playing with yourself.

      • JeffH

        Hey ya big cry baby, what has any 1967 border have to do with our exchange other than that your response shows that you have the attention span of a 2 month old baby.

        “Stupid is as stupid does” clearly defines you.

      • JC

        Jeff, commie47D was just taking an opportunity to sling crap from his high chair. ;)

      • eddie47d

        Jeff; Go read Crystals comment again and read it right. You score no points in your charade. Now you have JC lapping at your leg and he is clueless too.

      • JeffH

        Hey STUPID. FOCUS idiot, just FOCUS! This is what our little exchange was about and had nothing to do with Ben Crysta’s article.
        Get it -NOTHING!

        I said and I’ll quote so you can stay with the point of this exchange:
        JeffH says:

        May 24, 2011 at 1:18 pm

        Why the use of the word “foolish” in your comment to Crystal?
        I think you should apologise, she made no disparaging remark directed at you!

        Your little mindless charade is just that MINDLESS! No 1967 anything in my comment to you. UNDERSTAND? Obviously not! Mindless is who you are!

      • JeffH

        The fact that Crystal used a comment with 1967 has no bearing on my one sided exposure of your lack of understanding our arguement in the first place. Comprehension, something that has been brought to your attention on more than one occasion by more than one poster. Quit being stupid ya big dummy!

      • eddie47d

        It seems to me that you like to argue for arguments sake when I never said a word to you. You should have minded your own business although I know that is hard for you to do. So good riddance and it’s time for you to start your apology tour. That will certainly take all night and into next week.

      • JeffH

        Polly47D says: “You should have minded your own business although I know that is hard for you to do.”

        The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!
        Tennessee Williams

      • JC

        eddie47d says:

        May 25, 2011 at 11:49 am

        Jeff; Go read Crystals comment again and read it right. You score no points in your charade. Now you have JC lapping at your leg and he is clueless too.
        __________________________________________________________________

        lapping at his leg? LOL
        You have a very sick mind like all liberals.
        Oh well, another 5th of scotch and you’ll be right as rain.

  • Wayne937

    If your interested in how your Congress Member is voting, go here and click on your state:

    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=72&chamber=S&congress=1121
    Pass this one on to the friends who care about this country.

    • DaveH

      Tax loopholes and subsidies are wrong. Government should not be in the business of picking which companies should be winners and which should be losers. But targeting one company or one industry is not the solution. We need to get Government out of the Marketplace and return control of which companies succeed and which fail to the voluntary contractions of Free Humans in Free Markets.

      • DaveH

        Sorry, rather than Voluntary Contractions, that should have been Voluntary Contracts.

  • Michael J.

    Mr. Ringer, once again you speak the words of logic seldom heard anywhere else,except inside my own thoughts. I would like to add however, that Israel will never return to 1967 borders and also never will be destroyed. Reason being is that Rothschild and coherts are also Jews. Israel is being used as bait for Muslim blustering. A trait that Muslim’s portray willingly and will be used as justification for the upcoming world war aimed at the surviving Muslim dictatorship’s that have not been overthrown, or are unwilling to play along with the NWO elite’s agenda.

    • wandamurline

      Whaaaat? You have a tiny country surrounded by countries who want to destroy you and you think that the Rothchilds New World Order is somehow a part of this Israeli conflict? I don’t see this one. If the NWO is going forward, it will be because our elists in Washington have helped turn the middle east upside down and want to give all the power to the United Nations…a bunch of corrupt communists who do nothing but hold their hands out. Hiliary Clinton, Bill Clinton, the elderly Bush, GW Bush are all wanting a NWO, but Obama is working toward it more than any of them by wanting to have a borderless country and he is doing a pretty damned good job because the Mexicans are invading this country every day, along with jhadists who want to kill you.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I will not shoot Isreal down, however I will not agree that we need to do anything. No where in scripture does it say that I MUST have a Goverment put its hand and steal from me in the form of taxation and give to ANYONE. That said I do believe in Scriptures “title” of the land to Gods People. But i dont believe we can out do anything in Gods Plan. Our “self importance” is a BIT overinflated in this matter!

        The CRUX of the problem is DECEPTION. Scripture clearly states that there will be deception, and how am I to know for certain that any person who “says” they are a Jew is in fact one of Gods Chosen Isrealites?! Because they say so? Sorry, I’m not a doubting Thomas, but things just dont make sence to me.
        The Rothchilds are the wealthiest family in the world. In 2006 they were estimated to be worth over 500 Trillion. You cannnot have that kind of wealth without corruption. If you know history, and its not hard to find the facts, the Rothchilds are NOT exactly know for being Honest-Open-God respecting/loving people.
        The State of Isreal has every right to exist by its own means, and if you follow basic logic..it defies logic to believe that there isnt some form of deception going on with roots growing in a nest of Evil. If I were Evil, Isreal is EXACTLY where I would want to sow my seeds & make things happen. There is no fence that would prevent evil from Lurking ANYWHERE.

      • Tom

        Ok Some of you need to get togeatehr and agree on figures. 500 Trillion?? I don’t think so. Someone else said 13.5 trillion. That is almost the entire debt of the USA. I doubt if any of your figures are anywhere near correct. Your all just guessing.

      • JeffH

        Tom, I can’t back it up, because no one but the Rothschild’s Dynasty know for sure, but I do believe they have control of more monetary wealth than all of this world’s nations combined.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I’m not guessing at all. My figures come from researchers, accounting and finance firms. I’ve never heard any figure below the 500, and as I stated the date was in 2006.
        What many fail to understand is that Rothchild has diversified…they own Diamond, Gold & Silver Mines. The last 25-30 years they have been heavily involved in Conducting Business Mergers. The Rothchild Website in 2009 stated they conducted over 5000 mergers.

        http://www.rothschild.com/

        Morons who refuse to understand the power of Money, Finance, and Capitol deserve their own destruction.

      • JC

        Well Tom, one thing we don’t have to guess at is whether or not we’re going down in flames…we are. And this ridiculous excuse for a president is enjoying his mission very much.

      • Michael J.

        Wandamurline,
        Who do you think owns the United Nations and the communist therin? That’s right, the NWO elite’s. Obama, a Rothschild employee is throwing gasoline on a forest fire right now with his inciteful, yet hollow rehtoric concerning the drawing back of Israeli borders to the 1967 lines. In so doing, the NWO elites and their Obamadrone are using Israel as bait to draw Arab fire that will justify retalliation against Muslim countries. Once the Islamic regimes are crushed, nation building would commence same as in Iraq and Afganistan bringing to fruition the last impediment standing in the way of The New World Order, the faux democratization of the Arab world already in progress in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia etc. etc., with Iran being the Holy Grail.

      • Average Joe Patriot

        Now, there’s a scenario which makes sense. It may not be the whole picture, because the PTB for the NWO rarely move in straight lines or go after solitary (predictable or obvious) objectives, but it is a rational explanation for Obama’s otherwise counterintuitive position.

        I’m not so sure Iran is “the Holy Grail,” however, except within the context of the Middle East. The NWO has yet to deal with Asia–most particularly and formidably China–whom I doubt are on board with the predominantly Euro/US NWO agenda. I’m sure they have one of their own, however, and realize they are playing catch-up with forces which have been at the game far longer than they have (since long before the Boxer Rebellion, in fact).

        If the ultimate NWO “grail” is in fact the world, as their name implies, the confrontation between East and West will be the final great battle, and I believe much of the apparent confusion we are seeing all over the globe currently is the result of strategic positioning (rather than mere short term tactical maneuvering). By “confusion” I’m referring to the larger picture including geopolitical, financial, raw material allocation and shortages (actual and engineered), and control of everything imaginable from oil to water resources to the Internet.

        The master strategists gearing the planet up for this major conflict are not names you will hear in the MSM, and most of the supposed “movers and shakers” you do see, hear, and read are witting or unwitting (mostly unwitting) bit-parters in a play too big for them to understand more than their small portion of.

        This is why I say (I know I’m mixing metaphors, but screw it, it’s a blog) Palestine is an obvious pawn and Israel is at best a rook. The Middle East is just the current stepping stone in the play for world domination. It’s not about capitalism vs. communism, conservativism vs. liberalism, isolationism vs. colonialism, monotheism vs. paganism vs. atheism vs. deism…it’s not about any this-ism vs. that-ism.

        It’s about world ownership, and the ultimate enslavement of humankind (whichever of us are unlucky enough to be considered valuable enough to keep around after the final culling by the PTB).

        Sorry, it’s late, I’m tired, but that’s the big picture as I see it. The rest of this political/financial/media Sturm und Drang is designed to keep us misinformed and misdirected till the witching hour. At which point They are hoping those of us who are still not bewitched by the bull$#it will be too few in number to matter.

  • Anthony

    Personally, I see no need for America to hand over Billions in Aid, to Israel. That Country was bought and paid for under secrecy by the Rothschilds. When WWII was over, in the dead of night, they came in and forcibly removed the people living on that land. They didn’t do it in middle of the day, in bright sunlight. They did it when the kids were in bed sleeping peacefully… to a group of people that had inhabited the lands for thousands of years. When they tried to come back and get their belingings at least? The new occupiers told them they first had to have their birth certificates or they would not be allowed back in….. which is WHERE their birth certificates were, in the first place. The political chicanery involved with the creation of THIS state of Israel was processed behind close doors…. it was NOT an act of God in the creation…. It was a creation of the Ashkenazi “converted” jewish bankers… not blood jews. And, since it’s creation, NO blood jew has ever been allowed to lead that new state. These are real facts.

    It is also a fact that THE FED is run by the very same banksters, here in the good ol’ USA. It is not lost on me, that a very small country is who has themselves placed in positions of power here, for the express purpose of puppeteering our wealth and our power away from us, totally. They control Hollywood, the Media, the Currency, and position in Gov’t where no one seems to have the power to fight back…. and thanks to television, the masses are almost oblivious to it all…. Half the Nazi’s in positions of power during WWII were secretly brought over here and re-instituted into the same structure while the rest of the voters were busy celebrating… all true fact.

    No – I got no need to be bothering myself about some other little country that’s had a free meal ticket all it’s life.

    I’ve read enough to know those people’s who were forcibly removed in the dead of night….. they are the offended, the oppressed, the victims in all this. This perversion to the creation of Israel, is not the one spoken of in the Old Testament. Not by a long stretch. I’m certain enough on this.

    The current POTUS? I think he’s doing exactly what the Banksters want. In order for the full fruition of the NWO, armageddon must be hatched, to cleanse the planet (in their view). They need to depopulate the earth, according to the Georgia Guidestones. Whether you believe what’s written there or not.. they are churing up the planet in a foment for WAR. Every action you see and hear is not about peace. Heck, the Rothschilds could end world hunger all by themselves, being worth over an estimated $13.5 trillion dollars, as a singular family.

    No, this is about those in control of the Money paradigm doing whatever they sick & twisted dreams may want. And, the rest are just watching this game of RISK, from the sidelines.

    HOWEVER – they do worry that we might all see the truth in what I say. Hence all the FEMA Camps around America, just like what Jesse Ventura showed on his Conspiracy TV show… that stuff was no lie, including all the plastic coffins which would hold 4 bodies at once… it’s all true. Laugh if ya like… but enough american taxpayer dollars have been spent on such nonsense, it would have eliminated this depression we’re in.

    The problem is sooo many are sooo willing to think these words are just nonsense… they’re so scared to face that maybe, just maybe, they’ve been had all their lives, with a load of bull$hit the likes of hwich humanity shuold never suffer. Yet, there it is….

    I can tell ya this … it’s gonna get a lot worse, before it gets better. And, Israel will be the catalyst that causes it. In the process, the rest of the World, will think it was America that did the atrocity, not Israel.. and that’s how the Banksters always play the game. They get some stooge to step out front, with promises of (temporary) wealth & power. And, so-called patriotic (ha) americans have and will “sellout” their own, for the sake of an easy ride.

    I would hope that the rest of us can wake each other up and bause a unity which the Banksters cannot defeat … it will be the only way we don’t enter into the worst times this planet has seen since the Dark Ages.

    JMHO – Israel should stand alone, and the zionists in US Gov’t need to be removed and the FED erradicated… I do mean right now. A return to Constitutional (only) authority is needed, or America is dead.

    • Vigilant

      “The current POTUS? I think he’s doing exactly what the Banksters want. In order for the full fruition of the NWO, armageddon must be hatched, to cleanse the planet (in their view).”

      So your impeccable logic concludes that POTUS, wanting to marginalize, humiliate and ultimately destroy Israel, is acting as an agent for the very banksters that established Israel? You gotta come up with something better than that.

      • Average Joe Patriot

        Israel, indeed the welfare of the Jewish (primarily Ashkenazi) “race” has never been the ultimate focus/purpose of the banksters. World rule is, and they have never hesitated to use the “Jewish cause” to their ends to achieve this. They care as much about “fellow Jews” as Maddoff did about the little old Jewish ladies he conned out of their life savings. Or Ben Bernanke, for that matter. That is to say, as much as Michael Chertoff does about national security.

        It’s never been about Israel. Israel itself has been a mere tool in helping establish the New World Order. When she has served her purpose, when the time comes to throw Israel under the bus, the PTB will not have the slightest qualm.

        Heck, look what they’ve done to the United States of America, and the dream that we once held out as an example for the entire world. Can anyone truly believe this well-orchestrated destruction was accomplished by a handful of narrow-minded Old Testament-thumping zealots?

        If Palestine’s a pawn in the greater game (clearly it is), the state of Israel has never been much more than a cleverly positioned rook.

      • JC

        Now there, is an astute observation.

      • Carlucci

        Very astute. He’s hit the nail on the head.

      • Kate8

        AJP – The story of Israel is a complex one, and while there is much truth in what Anthony says, you’ve summed it up pretty well in a nutshell.

        Anthony, the fact that Zionists (Rothschilds) created Israel for their own purposes doesn’t alter the fact of prophecy. God uses anyone He chooses to fulfill His Plans. Scripture says that satan will be in control for a time, not just of Israel, but of America and all the world.

        While Zionists are in the power positions, there are still many devout, blood Jews living in Israel and, eventually, they will inherit their land. This land WAS held by the Israelites at one time. They were there before Mohammad ever existed and set about forcibly enslaving the nomadic tribes into his new “religion”, and slaughtering all who wouldn’t comply.

        I wouldn’t bleed to much for the Muslims. Before Israel, they were killing each other. Still do. They’ve always been a crazed, warring people, believing that is what pleases Allah. After all, they claim to prefer death to life. The Zionists would have had a much more difficult time getting what they want without them, and the world would have been spared a lot of misery.

        But then, I suppose satan would have just found someone else.

      • JeffH

        Kate8,

        The Rothschild relationship to the Jews is deceiving. The family stance is publicized as “pro-Jewish”, and they have given abundant charity to Jewish causes. But their support of the Jewish race has, in most cases, been used for the sole purpose of controlling the direction and profiting from the Jews.

        The Rothschilds support those Jews who have fallen prey to the deceptive gnostic and occultic teachings of Cabalism, and in turn support the Illuminati controlled Zionist movement. Not all Zionists are part of the conspiracy, but their leaders are, and the ultimate leaders of the Zionists have been the Rothschilds.

        The following quote will help to understand the Rothschild attitude towards the Jews. “… the first principle of the House of Rothschild was to amass wealth, [and] the liberation of the [Jewish] race from oppressive restrictions contributed Indirectly to this end, since it would facilitate intercourse with the rest of the world, and thereby increase the possibility of financial gain, which in turn would serve to increase its power.”
        http://thisiszionism.blogspot.com/2008/05/house-of-rothschilds-and-israel.html

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Destroy from within…Destroy a nation from Within, and destroy a “race” from within. Nothing like masquerading as a Jew to slander and bring discredit to all the good Jews. Satan knows his business, hes shrewd, clever, and skillfull. He’d make a GREAT Banker…perhaps he is :)

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Right on.

      • Mike in MI

        Good, JeffH -
        The Big “R’s” are expert and absolutely (Devilishly so) ruthless at playing both ends against the middle. The middle is where they manage to put themselves to make the most profit and promote the Devil’s business…which is ultimately to get rid of every competing religion by playing them off against one another until he puts them all down and climbs atop the heap. Then he will force the remainder of humanity to worship him, exclusively, or die. They will be “branded” as in submission to him by receiving some sort of mark that will permit them ot buy, sell, or participate in things of life. Whatever it is it will cause them to become diseased in some way.
        That’s what all this seems to be coming down to.

      • Al Sieber

        Right on JeffH, that’s the website.

      • Mike in MI

        Vigilant -
        You tend to think in nice straight lines, trying to make a situation that exists today out of things that came from yesterdays’ and will keep going onward in a nice straight line of logic to a predictable conclusion at its extremity. You must be either a mathematician or an electrician who never had a circuit on which he couldn’t account for every input, resistor, capacitor, magnet or short or what have you.
        In dealing with the powers behind the NWO and the fates of Israel you’re not dealing just with the natural realm but with nature and the supernatural. If you can’t or won’t deal with that you’ll never know why things happen as they do nor where this all is headed.

        The world is spaghetti and there are two chefs throwing stuff in the pot.

      • Vigilant

        “In dealing with the powers behind the NWO and the fates of Israel you’re not dealing just with the natural realm but with nature and the supernatural.”

        “The supernatural?” Well then, that explains it all. And I was foolish enough to assume that I could engage in a rational conversation about NWO theory without resorting to the metaphysical.

        My bad.

      • TIME

        Vig,

        What Mike is trying to say to you is that your application of logic will fail when trying to figure out the NWO way of thinking.

        Let me ask you this, if you were in a single family the BIG R’s that hold well over 50% of all the wealth in the world.
        Please do keep in mind that all the wealth in the world is just under $70 Trillion dollars.
        So that means that they hold no less that $35 Trillion dollars that grows daily by hundreds of Billions in plain words Bill Gates looks like a Homeless person next to the Big R’s even with only what they make per day in interest.

        They also control all the standard media formats, the AP is owned by Reuters and they are ownd by the big R’s thus all media’s must comply with the outlines set by forth by the AP.

        Think way out of the BOX, only then when your as far out as you can get will you even start to grasp what’s going on with the NWO.

      • Vigilant

        TIME, I understand your point. But nothing you mentioned is within the realm of the supernatural. The tremendous scale of what you’re talking about is an empirical proposition, proveable or unproveable, but certainly within the scope of the logical and natural.

        When, however, appeal is made to certain unseen, evil forces outside of the realm of everyday experience, the discussion becomes stalled because argument on the basis of logic ceases, and argument on the basis of faith or belief begins. No argument in that discussion is winnable by either side.

        I reject any supernatural causes as a basis for discussion.

      • Al Sieber

        Good one Average Joe.

      • Vigilant

        Anthony blatts: “No – I got no need to be bothering myself about some other little country that’s had a free meal ticket all it’s life.”

        Knowing what we know of the Jewish Diaspora, the centuries of persecution and Holocaust, and the threat to daily existence in a state whose sovereignty is not recognized by any nation around her, and you have the unmitigated gall to call it “some other little country that’s had a free meal ticket all it’s [sic] life?”

        Your utter denial of history, combined with your absolute lack of sensitivity and human decency, place you in a category no less demonic than the NWO masters you decry.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Vigilant… I agree! The Jewish nation has not had a free pass on anything! The land they currently occupy was given to them by God. We must stand behind Israel. They are always expected to cave on the issues, getting nothing in return. They are God’s chosen people.

      • Al Sieber

        Vigilant, close to 50 million people died in WW11, don’t they count? all I hear is about the 6 million Jews that died in the Holocaust, their own people here in the U.S. sold them out to the Nazi’s, they wouldn’t help them come here, a whole ship load tried to come here and were turned back and their own people let it happen.they used their own people to their advantage. there are those that follow the Talmud, and the real Jews that follow the Torah.

      • libertytrain

        about 6 million people that were systematically gathered up, thrown into cattle cars and branded like cattle on their arms, then allowed to either starve to death or gassed. And the rest of the world turned a blind eye. And yes too many people died. Probably people you knew of and I know people in my family fought and died in World War II.

      • Vigilant

        Al,

        You are, of course, correct. There’s no intent on my part to minimize the horrible casualties of many other millions of folks, but this article deals with the Israelis in particular.

        Please remember that Germany’s treatment of the Jews was something that had never before occurred in history, nor has it occurred since. Never in history was a government involved in such meticulous planning, cost-benefit analysis, infrastructure construction and devotion of massive resources to the single end of wiping a people off the face of the earth. It was done as the cool and calm calculations of planners who turned the crimes of torture and murder into nothing more than a business venture.

        That alone singles out Germany as a pariah.

      • Al Sieber

        Liberty, I grew up with kids that went through WW11 in Europe, and I learned a lot from the survivors.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Al and Liberty,

        Did Six Million Really Die?
        By Richard E. Harward

        The most influential agency in the propagation of the extermination legend has been the paper-back book and magazine industry, and it is through their sensational publications, produced for commercial gain, that the average person is made acquainted with a myth of an entirely political character and purpose. The hey-day of these hate-Germany books was in the 1950′s, when virulent Germanophobia found a ready market, but the industry continues to flourish and is experiencing another boom today. The industry’s products consist generally of so-called “memoirs”, and these fall into two basic categories: those which are supposedly by former S.S. men, camp commandants and the like, and those bloodcurdling reminiscences allegedly by former concentration camp inmates.

        COMMUNIST ORIGINS
        Of the first kind, the most outstanding example is Commandant of Auschwitz by Rudolf Hoess (London, 1960), which was originally published in the Polish language as Wspomnienia by’ the Communist Government. Hoess, a young man who took over at Auschwitz in 1940, was first arrested by the British and detained at Flensburg, but he was soon handed over to the Polish Communist authorities who condemned him to death in 1947 and executed him almost immediately. The so-called Hoess memoirs are undoubtedly a forgery produced under Communist auspices, as we shall demonstrate, though the Communists themselves claim that Hoess was “ordered to write the story of his life” and a hand-written original supposedly exists, but no one has ever seen it. Hoess was subjected to torture and brain-washing techniques by the Communists during the period of his arrest, and his testimony at Nuremberg was delivered in a mindless monotone as he stared blankly into space. Even Reitlinger rejects this testimony as hopelessly untrustworthy. It is indeed remarkable how much of the “evidence” regarding the Six Million stems from Communist sources; this includes the major documents such as the Wisliceny statement and the Hoess “memoirs”, which are undoubtedly the two most quoted items in extermination literature, as well as all the information on the so-called “death camps” such as Auschwitz. This information comes from the Jewish Historical Commission of Poland; the Central Commission for the Investigation of War Crimes, Warsaw; and the Russian State War Crimes Commission, Moscow. Reitlinger acknowledges that the Hoess testimony at Nuremberg was a catalogue of wild exaggerations, such as that Auschwitz was disposing of 16,000 people a day, which would mean a total at the end of the war of over 13 million. Instead of exposing such estimates for the Soviet-inspired frauds they obviously are, Reitlinger and others prefer to think that such ridiculous exaggerations were due to “pride” in doing a professional job. Ironically, this is completely irreconcilable with the supposedly authentic Hoess memoirs, which make a clever attempt at plausibility by suggesting the opposite picture of distaste for the job. Hoess is supposed to have “confessed” to a total of 3 million people exterminated at Auschwitz, though at his own trial in Warsaw the prosecution reduced the number to 1,135,000. However, we have already noted that the Soviet Government announced an official figure of 4 million after their “investigation” of the camp in 1945. This kind of casual juggling with millions of people does not appear to worry the writers of extermination literature. A review of the Hoess “memoirs” in all their horrid detail would be tedious. We may confine ourselves to those aspects of the extermination legend which are designed with the obvious purpose of forestalling any proof of its falsity. Such, for example, is the manner in which the alleged extermination of Jews is described. This was supposed to have been carried out by a “special detachment” of Jewish prisoners. They took charge of the newly arrived contingents at the camp, led them into the enormous “gas-chambers” and disposed of the bodies afterwards. The S.S., therefore, did very little, so that most of the S.S. personnel at the camp could be left in complete ignorance of the “extermination programme”. Of course, no Jew would ever be found who claimed to have been a member of this gruesome “special detachment”, so that the whole issue is left conveniently unprovable. It is worth repeating that no living, authentic eye-witness to these events has ever been produced. Conclusive evidence that the Hoess memoirs are a forgery lies in an incredible slip by the Communist editors. Hoess is supposed to say that the Jehovah’s Witnesses at Auschwitz approved of murdering the Jews because the Jews were the enemies of Christ. It is well known that in Soviet Russia today and in all her satellite countries of eastern Europe, the Communists conduct a bitter campaign of suppression against the Jehovah’s Witnesses whom they regard as the religious sect most dangerous to Communist beliefs. That this sect is deliberately and grossly defamed in the Hoess memoirs proves the document’s Communist origins beyond any doubt.

        INCRIMINATING REMINISCENCES
        Certainly the most bogus “memoirs” yet published are those of Adolf Eichmann. Before his illegal kidnapping by the Israelis in May, 1960 and the attendant blaze of international publicity, few people had ever heard of him . He was indeed a relatively unimportant person, the head of Office A4b in Department IV (the Gestapo) of the Reich Security Head Office. His office supervised the transportation to detention camps of a particular section of enemy aliens, the Jews. A positive flood of unadulterated rubbish about Eichmann showered the world in 1960, of which we may cite as an example Comer Clarke’s Eichmann: The Savage Truth. (“The orgies often went on until six in the morning, a few hours before consigning the next batch of victims to death,” says Clarke in his chapter “Streamlined Death and Wild Sex Orgies,” p . 124). Strangely enough, the alleged “memoirs” of Adolf Eichmann suddenly appeared at the time of his abduction to Israel. They were uncritically published by the American Life magazine (November 28th, December 5th, 1960), and were supposed to have been given by Eichmann to a journalist in the Argentine shortly before his capture – an amazing coincidence. Other sources, however, gave an entirely different account of their origin, claiming that they were a record based on Eichmann’s comments to an “associate” in 1955, though no one even bothered to identify this person. By an equally extraordinary coincidence, war crimes investigators claimed shortly afterwards to have just “found” in the archives of the U.S. Library of Congress, more than fifteen years after the war, the “complete file” of Eichmann’s department. So far as the “memoirs” themselves are concerned, they were made to be as horribly incriminating as possible without straying too far into the realms of the purest fantasy, and depict Eichmann speaking with enormous relish about “the physical annihilation of the Jews.” Their fraudulence is also attested to by various factual errors, such as that Himmler was already in command of the Reserve Army by April of 1944, instead of after the July plot against Hitler’s life, a fact which Eichmann would certainly have known. The appearance of these “memoirs” at precisely the right moment raises no doubt that their object was to present a pre-trial propaganda picture of the archetypal “unregenerate Nazi” and fiend in human shape. The circumstances of the Eichmann trial in Israel do not concern us here; the documents of Soviet origin which were used in evidence, such as the Wisliceny statement, have been examined already, and for an account of the third-degree methods used on Eichmann during his captivity to render him “co-operative” the reader is referred to the London Jewish Chronicle, September 2nd, 1960. More relevant to the literature of the extermination legend are the contents of a letter which Eichmann is supposed to have written voluntarily and handed over to his captors in Buenos Aries. It need hardly be added that its Israeli authorship is transparently obvious. Nothing in it stretches human credulity further than the phrase “I am submitting this declaration of my own free will”; but the most hollow and revealing statement of all is his alleged willingness to appear before a court in Israel, “so that a true picture may be transmitted to future generations.”

        TREBLINKA FABRICATIONS
        The latest reminiscences to appear in print are those of Franz Stangl, the former commandant of the camp at Treblinka in Poland who was sentenced to life imprisonment in December 1970. These were published in an article by the London Daily Telegraph Magazine, October 8th, 1971, and were supposed to derive from a series of interviews with Stangl in prison. He died a few days after the interviews were concluded. These alleged reminiscences are certainly the goriest and most bizarre yet published, though one is grateful for a few admissions by the writer of the article, such as that “the evidence presented in the course of his trial did not prove Stangl himself to have committed specific acts of murder” and that the account of Stangl’s beginnings in Poland “was in part fabrication.” A typical example of this fabrication was the description of Stangl’s first visit to Treblinka. As he drew into the railway station there, he is supposed to have seen “thousands of bodies” just strewn around next to the tracks, “hundreds, no, thousands of bodies everywhere, putrefying, decomposing.” And “in the station was a train full of Jews, some dead, some still alive . . . it looked as if it had been there for days.” The account reaches the heights of absurdity when Stangl is alleged to have got out of his car and “stepped kneedeep into money: I didn’t know which way to turn, which way to go. I waded in papernotes, currency, precious stones, jewellery and clothes. They were everywhere, strewn all over the square.” The scene is completed by “whores from Warsaw weaving drunk, dancing, singing, playing music”, who were on the other side of the barbed wire fences. To literally believe this account of sinking “kneedeep” in Jewish bank-notes and precious stones amid thousands of putrefying corpses and lurching, singing prostitutes would require the most phenomenal degree of gullibility, and in any circumstances other than the Six Million legend it would be dismissed as the most outrageous nonsense. The statement which certainly robs the Stangl memoirs of any vestige of authenticity is his alleged reply when asked why he thought the Jews were being exterminated: “They wanted the Jews’ money,” is the answer. “That racial business was just secondary.” The series of interviews are supposed to have ended on a highly dubious note indeed. When asked whether he thought there had been “any conceivable sense in this horror,” the former Nazi commandant supposedly replied with enthusiasm: “Yes, I am sure there was. Perhaps the Jews were meant to have this enormous jolt to pull them together; to create a people; to identify themselves with each other.” One could scarcely imagine a more perfect answer had it been invented.

        BEST-SELLER A HOAX
        Of the other variety of memoirs, those which present a picture of frail Jewry caught in the vice of Nazism, the most celebrated is undoubtedly The Diary of Anne Frank, and the truth concerning this book is only one appalling insight into the fabrication of a propaganda legend . First published in 1952, The Diary of Anne Frank became an immediate best-seller; since then it has been republished in paper-back, going through 40 impressions, and was made into a successful Hollywood film. In royalties alone, Otto Frank, the girl’s father, has made a fortune from the sale of the book, which purports to represent the real-life tragedy of his daughter. With its direct appeal to the emotions, the book and the film have influenced literally millions of people, certainly more throughout the world than any other story of its kind. And yet only seven years after its initial publication, a New York Supreme Court case established that the book was a hoax. The Diary of Anne Frank has been sold to the public as the actual diary of a young Jewish girl from Amsterdam, which she wrote at the age of 12 while her family and four other Jews were hiding in the back room of a house during the German occupation. Eventually, they were arrested and detained in a concentration camp, where Anne Frank supposedly died when she was 14. When Otto Frank was liberated from the camp at the end of the war, he returned to the Amsterdam house and “found” his daughter’s diary concealed in the rafters. The truth about the Anne Frank Diary was first revealed in 1959 by the Swedish journal Fria Ord. It established that the Jewish novelist Meyer Levin had written the dialogue of the “diary” and was demanding payment for his work in a court action against Otto Frank. A condensation of the Swedish articles appeared in the American Economic Council Letter, April 15th, 1959, as follows: “History has many examples of myths that live a longer and richer life than truth, and may become more effective than truth. “The Western World has for some years been made aware of a Jewish girl through the medium of what purports to be her personally written story, Anne Frank’s Diary. Any informed literary inspection of this book would have shown it to have been impossible as the work of a teenager. “A noteworthy decision of the New York Supreme Court confirms this point of view, in that the well known American Jewish writer, Meyer Levin, has been awarded $50,000 to be paid him by the father of Anne Frank as an honorarium for Levin’s work on the Anne Frank Diary. “Mr. Frank, in Switzerland, has promised to pay to his race kin, Meyer Levin, not less than $50,0OO because he had used the dialogue of Author Levin just as it was and “implanted” it in the diary as being his daughter’s intellectual work.” Further inquiries brought a reply on May 7th, 1962 from a firm of New York lawyers, which stated: “I was the attorney for Meyer Levin in his action against Otto Frank, and others. It is true that a jury awarded Mr. Levin $50,000 in damages, as indicated in your letter. That award was later set aside by the trial justice, Hon. Samuel C. Coleman, on the ground that the damages had not been proved in the manner required by law. The action was subsequently settled while an appeal from Judge Coleman’s decision was pending. “I am afraid that the case itself is not officially reported, so far as the trial itself, or even Judge Coleman’s decision, is concerned. Certain procedural matters were reported in 141 New York Supplement, Second Series 170, and in 5 Second Series 181. The correct file number in the New York County Clerk’s office is 2241 – 1956 and the file is probably a large and full one . . .” Here, then, is just one more fraud in a whole series of frauds perpetrated in support of the “Holocaust” legend and the saga of the Six Million. Of course, the court case bearing directly on the authenticity of the Anne Frank Diary was “not officially reported”. A brief reference may also be made to another “diary”, published not long after that of Anne Frank and entitled: Notes from the Warsaw Ghetto: the Journal of Emmanuel Ringelblum (New York, 1958). Ringelblum had been a leader in the campaign of sabotage against the Germans in Poland, as well as the revolt of the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943, before he was eventually arrested and executed in 1944. The Ringelblum journal, which speaks of the usual “rumours” allegedly circulating about the extermination of the Jews in Poland, appeared under exactly the same Communist auspices as the so-called Hoess memoirs. McGraw-Hill, the publishers of the American edition, admit that they were denied access to the uncensored original manuscript in Warsaw, and instead faithfully followed the expurgated volume published by the Communist Government in Warsaw in 1952. All the “proofs” of the Holocaust issuing from Communist sources of this kind are worthless as historical documents.

        ACCUMULATING MYTHS
        Since the war, there has been an abundant growth of sensational concentration camp literature, the majority of it Jewish, each book piling horror upon horror, blending fragments of truth with the most grotesque of fantasies and impostures, relentessly creating an edifice of mythology in which any relation to historical fact has long since disappeared. We have referred to the type already – Olga Lengyel’s absurd Five Chimneys (“24,000 corpses handled every day”), Doctor at Auschwitz by Miklos Nyiszli, apparently a mythical and invented person, This was Auschwitz: The Story of a Murder Camp by Philip Friedman, and so on ad nauseam The latest in this vein is For Those I Loved by Martin Gray (Bodley Head, 1973), which purports to be an account of his experiences at Treblinka camp in Poland. Gray specialised in selling fake antiques to America before turning to concentration camp memoirs. The circumstances surrounding the publication of his book, however, have been unique, because for the first time with works of this kind, serious doubt was cast on the authenticity of its contents. Even Jews, alarmed at the damage it might cause, denounced his book as fraudulent and questioned whether he had ever been at Treblinka at all, while B.B.C. radio pressed him as to why he had waited 28 years before writing of his experiences. It was interesting to observe that the “Personal Opinion” column of the London Jewish Chronicle, March 30th, 1973, although it roundly condemned Gray’s book, nevertheless made grandiose additions to the myth of the Six Million. It stated that: “Nearly a million people were murdered in Treblinka in the course of a year. 18,0OO were fed into the gas chambers every day.” It is a pity indeed that so many people read and accept this kind of nonsense without exercising their minds. If 18,000 were murdered every day, the figure of one million would be reached in a mere 56 days, not “in the course of a year.” This gigantic achievement would leave the remaining ten months of the year a total blank. 18,000 every day would in fact mean a total of 6,480,000 “in the course of a year.” Does this mean that the Six Million died in twelve months at Treblinka? What about the alleged three or four million at Auschwitz? This kind of thing simply shows that, once the preposterous compromise figure of Six Million had scored a resounding success and become internationally accepted, any number of impossible permutations can be made and no one would even think to criticise them. In its review of Gray’s book, the Jewish Chronicle column also provides a revealing insight into the fraudulent allegations concerning gas-chambers: “Gray recalls that the floors of the gas chambers sloped, whereas another survivor who helped to build them maintains that they were at a level . . .” Occasionally, books by former concentration camp inmates appear which present a totally different picture of the conditions prevailing in them. Such is Under Two Dictators (London, 1950) by Margarete Buber. She was. a German-Jewish woman who had experienced several years in the brutal and primitive conditions of a Russian prison camp before being sent to Ravensbrück, the German camp for women detainees, in August 1940. She noted that she was the only Jewish person in her contingent of deportees from Russia who was not straight away released by the Gestapo. Her book presents a striking contrast between the camps of Soviet Russia and Germany; compared to the squalor, disorder and starvation of the Russian camp, she found Ravensbrück to be clean, civilised and well-administered. Regular baths and clean linen seemed a luxury after her earlier experiences, and her first meal of white bread, sausage, sweet porridge and dried fruit prompted her to inquire of another camp inmate whether August 3rd, 1940 was some sort of holiday or special occasion. She observed, too, that the barracks at Ravensbrück were remarkably spacious compared to the crowded mud hut of the Soviet camp. In the final months of 1945, she experienced the progressive decline of camp conditions, the causes of which we shall examine later. Another account which is at total variance with popular propaganda is Die Gestapo Lässt Bitten (The Gestapo Invites You) by Charlotte Bormann, a Communist political prisoner who was also interned at Ravensbrück. Undoubtedly its most important revelation is the author’s statement that rumours of gas executions were deliberate and malicious inventions circulated among the prisoners by the Communists. This latter group did not accept Margarete Buber because of her imprisonment in Soviet Russia. A further shocking reflection on the post-war trials is the fact that Charlotte Bormann was not permitted to testify at the Rastadt trial of Ravensbrück camp personnel in the French occupation zone, the usual fate of those who denied the extermination legend.
        “When a Jew, in America or in South Africa, talks to his Jewish companions about ‘our’ government, he means the government of Israel.”
        - David Ben-Gurion, Israeli Prime Minister

      • libertytrain

        Yep, Coal, I’ve known a German or two that said it never happened. What’s your point? Kind of reminds me of your Mother Teresa post about all the money she absconded with — that wicked woman :)

      • Kate8

        coal – You could have just given the name of the book instead of posting it.

        Communists rewrite history as part of their methodology. You don’t thing “death camps” were real, or that millions died at the hands of the Nazis? Well, tell that to those who lived to tell about it, and spent their lives bearing the number-tattoos and the haunting nightmares.

        This is why commies have to wait until most of those who were alive at the time are dead and gone, so no one is there to refute their denials, and the few who do remember are ignored. You’ve fallen prey to yet another communist tactic. It also serves to keep you from paying attention to the death camps that are waiting for you and me as we write.

        My dad served in that war, and he witnessed things he couldn’t even speak of because of the horror. It’s hard for civilized people to believe what man can do to man if they haven’t seen it.

        You dishonor all of those who were imprisoned, tortured and killed. People, after the war, swore that they would never let humanity forget, lest history repeat. But people do forget, atrocities are scoffed at, and the clueless masses pick up the march down the same well-worn road.

        You serve your satanic masters well.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Coal Miner maybe there weren’t 6 million Jews killed yet if you look closer at your story it could have been even more. I doubt if most of the stories over the years are myths. Probably a few were made up to make money and those writers have no conscience. That shouldn’t take away from the real tragedies that did occur. Anne Frank did write a diary and maybe the book wasn’t word for word since she had died. That doesn’t mean her life and story didn’t happen.American soldiers who liberated these camps took pictures and recorded what they saw so what happened is real. Those who enhance this Holocaust tragedy do harm to history but the Holocaust deniers do even more harm.

      • Kate8

        Also, don’t forget Anne Frank’s diary. Many kept journals at that time, and some survivors wrote about it later, such as Corey Tenboom. There are just too many accounts of the horrors, and we can’t begin to imagine what it was like for those people except through their writings.

        How incomprehensible to live through something like that, and then have posterity deny that it ever happened. I can’t imagine a greater insult to one’s humanity.

        BTW, these things go on still today. Just look at Rowanda and Darfur, to name only two.

    • Hobbit Baggins

      I agree with Anthony.

      • http://personalliberty.com frank

        you would lol!.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Kate8 and liberty,

        Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued orders on December 28, 1942, …. evidence presented in, Did Six Million Really Die? by Richard Verrall ). ….. As the holocaust of six million Jews in World War I was eventually …
        http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm

    • Penny Fuentes

      Anthony,Anti-Semitism is not a trait easily hidden.

      • libertytrain

        nicely said.

      • Vigilant

        Yes, Penny, but they’ll jump through hoops to try and convince you it’s not antisemitism. NWO conspiracy theories involving the Jewish bankers have been around a long time. And I have yet to see one that doesn’t in some fashion involve the “Zionists.”

        These antisemites believe if they can convince you that they’ve got nothing against Jews, just “Zionists,” then you will some how buy into their notion that their theories have a shred of legitimacy.

        Nope, it’s been blamed on the Jews for centuries, and it continues to be blamed on them by the Jew-haters. From http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=412 : “The Stab In The Back theory attributed Germany’s losing [WWI] not to military defeat on the battlefield, but to the intentional sabotaging of the war effort by Jewish financiers, socialists, and international Bolsheviks. Hitler would later blame Jewish journalists who fled Nazi Germany for inciting belligerence against Germany leading to WWII.”

        “To Hitler and many others, it was left liberal politicians and supporters, (German Jewish bankers and their international Jewish network), of the Weimar Republic who ‘stabbed Germany in the back’ by signing the armistice on November 11, 1918. They would soon become known as the November Criminals.”

        Hitler’s belief in the myth of international Jewish conspiracy, antisemitic to say the least, has now (once again) found popular voice in the NWO conspiracy theories. And much like the Holocaust deniers will have you believe that Naziism was not really all that bad, so too do the NWO theorists wish you to beleive that antisemitism is not at the bottom of their theories.

      • Al Sieber

        Good website Vigilant.

      • JC

        Vigilant says:

        May 24, 2011 at 9:16 am

        Yes, Penny, but they’ll jump through hoops to try and convince you it’s not antisemitism. NWO conspiracy theories involving the Jewish bankers have been around a long time. And I have yet to see one that doesn’t in some fashion involve the “Zionists.”

        These antisemites believe if they can convince you that they’ve got nothing against Jews, just “Zionists,” then you will some how buy into their notion that their theories have a shred of legitimacy.
        ___________________________________________________________________

        Have you researched “Zionism” enough to say things like that?
        The Zionist movement began in Egypt.

        I personally would rather not equate peacable Jews who are just trying to live their lives with these evil bastards.

        Going after the idea of Zionism while leaving the Jews themselves out of equation is not anti-semitism. It’s making a distinction and an important one at that.
        I have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with a movement of cultists trying to control our economy (the Fed) our borders and our sovereignty. Why would “Israeli’s” want the US destroyed?
        Whereas we’re pretty sure that the Zionist Cult is behind globalism.

      • Vigilant

        Yes, I have researched Zionism. From its roots in the 19th century to today, it has never waivered in its dedication to a sovereign Jewish state. That’s what it’s all about.

        Any reference to a “Zionist Cult” is a reference to a hijacking of the term. Globalism and Zionism are polar opposites, not peas in a pod.

      • JC

        That’s interesting.
        The research I have done took me back to ancient Egypt to the time of a Pharoah called Aton. At that time and place a group in a place called Zion basically formed a cult in which they believed themselves descended from actual Gods. (many theories here)
        And that they believed that the rest of us are here to serve them.
        My understanding is that they’ve used a Jewish identity to conceal who and what they are.
        Now whether you and I believe this is actually irrelevant.
        The question would be, do “they” believe it and are they real?

        Like I said..interesting stuff.

      • DaveH

        I don’t know if Anthony is right, or Kate is right, or Vigilant is right, or Jeff is right. But, it really all could be solved by just getting our country back to the kind of Individual Freedom and Limited Government that Jefferson, Madison, Washington, and other Founders envisioned. Jefferson was right in almost everything he said. Central banks have proven to be a disaster for the country. Foreign entanglements have done us no good. It should be obvious to most that the standing armies have only made us less safe.
        We need to quit being led around by the nose by the welfare statists, and by the military statists. They (the leaders) are just using us as pawns to grow their Power and Perks.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, I don’t know for sure either but I do know you are “Right”.

      • JC

        Absolutely right DaveH.

      • Al Sieber

        JC, right on, thanks for your research. I always thought the word Semite had to do with the Arabs.

      • April

        The study is interesting, but I do agree with you DaveH. We need our country back to these basic principals for sure.

      • Carlucci

        Me, too. I’m in complete agreement with DaveH’s comments above.

    • LUTFI DAJANI

      Isreal was created by the U.S. in 1948 to protect its interest in the Middle East and to implant a fealthy object into the Arab world so it wont prosper.
      the U.S.A. is just like ROME , all evil empires will be dystroyed and Isreal will be dystroyed as well, no one but God only rules over this land and this Universe

      • bob wire

        The Arab world fails to prosper today because they are locked in a 12th century mindset and their ruling classes enjoy this arrangement. It’s very comfortable for them.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I agree, you bring up a very valid point. The inverse of your point is that we ourselvs in the US are under a “similar” skewed goverment.

      • bob wire

        So true. Today in America, “deceit” is an art form. As what is sold and what is delivered opposite of the same coin.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thank you for writing that.

      • fundamentalattributionerror

        If it was not for the muslim nation much of the greek literature and knowledge would be lost. They translated it and stored it. They led thought in the height of their civilization. One of the main reasons thier culture has not been allowed to prosper is because of britain and france and the other european powers that kept many of the middle-eastern countries from becoming democratic so they could have the oil and other resources in the region. According to a Harvard analysis arabic is by far the most sophisticated language in every dimension they studied. The Jewish government has enacted many harsh policies against the palestinians. How many jews were killed in the conflict leading to the Gaza massacre. Why was Lebanon destroyed for the retaliatory killing of 13 Jewish soldiers? There were hundreds of thousands of palestinian refugess after the 6 day war. The arabs were forced to take the jews there and they have been getting the palestinians to leave ever since. They have bulldozed their homes. They have set up checkpoints so they cannot travel or work. Ariet Sharon set up settlements in places deliberately so they could not form a state of their own. Now they build a wall that separates palestinians from their family, work, and farmlands. Gaza is like the warsaw ghetto. Lots of Jews have died at the hands of the palestinians but usually 4-10 times that number die at the hands of the Jews. The west and europe should never have let Israel establish a country there without the support of the arab states. This is the consequence. If Obama supports the palestinians now it is not stupid it is america finally being a leader. The support for the Jews has been abused and led to the palestinians being forced to live in appalling conditions. I totally support Obama. Peace not apartheid is a good book by Jimmy Carter.

      • combatvet

        How does one respond to your anti-semetic rail without acknowledging your complete ignorance of the facts skewed to support your baseless argument. There is no such thing as a Palestinian people……period.
        Palestine dates back to ancient Israel and is a part thereof. The Palestinians you speak of are nothing but disaffected Jordanians expelled from Jordan and forcibly placed adjacent to Israel to serve as a lever to push Israel off the planet. I find it interesting that your wonderful compassionate muslims weren’t able to find a mere snippet of land amongst the millions of square miles they occupy, to provide a place for these poor disaffected Jordanians, their brothers. Instead they continue to force them on the Israelis.
        Your love of the demented muslims, the most primitive group of knuckle dragging neanderthals extant on our planet, is comical at best. These people have contributed nothing to mankind in more than a thousand years, nothing except terrorism, intolerance, hypocrisy and a vibrant sheet business.

        The Jews have occupied this part of the world for over 6000 years and have been prayed upon by one demonic world and regional power after another. They have been slaughtered, indentured into slavery time and again, marginalized and threatened with extinction time and again, yet all of those tormentors, those who have set upon the Jews, those great world powers are mere footnotes in history while the Jews survived and in doing so were given back their historical homeland, have turned the desert into a paradise and are productive and military power in the world.

        Now American Jews are a bird of a different feather, they are suicidal and fundamentally Socialist/Communists, at least the great majority of them are. They are the antithesis of the Israelites and by and large are complicit in the behind the scenes sellout of America. Not all American Jews are self-hating political lemmings but the great majority are, just look at who are among the most virulent American haters in our criminal government. What is truly disturbing is that they support the fraudulent occupant in the White House, the racist in chief, who as a Muslim, hates them. A real head scratcher from a group of disaffected morons who have set aside the horror of the Holocaust and the words “never again” for a vile and despicable political agenda. These people are far removed from real Jews who have never forgotten………. the Israelites!

        So fundamentalfullofshitinerror take your anti-Israel screed somewhere else say hi to all of your demented knuckle dragging friends of Barry Hussein Dunham Soetero fraudulent spineless defacto CNC and haters of Israel. One sobering thought for you……Israel has one of the largest and most sophisticated nuclear arsenals on the planet, second to none. They could ruin your day and that of your muslim boyfriends in a heartbeat! Put that in your racist pipe and smoke it!

      • Mike in MI

        combatvet – (Thanks or your service, too. From one to another)

        Excellent post…but he can’t put that in his pipe and smoke it – it would displace too much hash. Thereby uncross his eyes and maybe get the camel dung out of his ears.
        One disputeable point. I believe

      • Mike in MI

        to Combatvet (cont’d)-
        that Mohammed lived in the 600′s. So their brigand, highwayman,theif and murderer of a prophet (a latter day Prophet of Baal, so common in that region) has kept the islamics locked in the 7th century which makes their failure to advance even more blameable on the corupt system of lies they follow. Or, should I say “chase”. I think there is a difference between chasing and following.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        fundamentalattributionerror<

        History:
        You are absolutely right.The Muslim scholars contribute greatly to science,
        mathematics, and astronomy.They even came up with the germ theory of disease,long before Pasteur. Another one of their sciences,cataract surgery. Their knowledge in mathematics were well reknown,particulary Algebra.Astronomy was a field they really excel in,the red giant star Betelguse was name by Muslim astronomers and yes their contibutions to science and learning are undeniable.

      • Mike in MI

        Coal miner -
        Now, are you sure you’re talking about the MUslims or the Persians and ancient Medean cultures? There was a lot the muslims had transferred to them from those areas of the world and the books from way-back-when – like the Western Zoroastrians who were scientists (not hookeypookey, flim-flammers like the Eastern branches that fled into Afganistan, Pakistan and India).
        The Muslim conquests and Empire put them in contact with a lot of information and intellectual property that they gobbled up – but there’s little evidence (for whatever reason) they kept it, expanded on it or transmitted it. They certainly aren’t doing much with it now – except what they’ve gotten from Western Universities for universal warfare.

      • Vigilant

        combatvet,

        Exceptionally good posting! My hat is off to you, sir.

      • Al Sieber

        Actually God was referring to a spiritual Israel, not the physical Israel.

      • Carlucci

        You got it. Many Arab nations never “evolved” because they lived in the desert and didn’t experience a renaissance.

      • Carlucci

        P.S. I was replying to bobwire.

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – It hasn’t helped that, with Islam, those who try to “evolve” are routinely executed, as mandated by their religion.

      • Mike in MI

        Carlucci – partially right.
        “…They never experienced a rennaisance.”
        The western world would hardly have ever experienced a rennaisance if it had not first gone throught the Reformation. A couple of weeks ago we were discussing the bit about the caged monkeys who had been influenced to leave the available banana hanging on its string by dousing them with water. Remember, TIME found it and gave it to Chip Wood who showed it to us all.
        The West had been locked in the Medieval feudalistic systems by the forces that controlled things for 1,000 years.
        Then along came Luther, Huss, Wycliffe, Tyndale and others who challenged the people to break the old mold and habits so as go for the BANANA. They shattered the old mold that had enervated and trammeled the minds of men for so long. Once that had been accomplished the Rennaisance was more free to proceed. But, had it not been for the fearless, forthright and powerful stand of those great believers for the Reformation period we’d still be in much the same mess as the Islamics.
        Thank God for His Word.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner
      • JKO

        It was a British Colony and was created by them. Not saying we did not have a hand in it, but Britain was the one who gave the Zionists the land.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Mike in Mi

        Islamic Ophthalmology and Islamic Medicine
        … invented many subtle and advanced techniques for performing surgery on the eye, … Kitab al-Mansuri, Al Razi documented the removal of cataracts with a …
        http://www.experiment-resources.com/islamic-ophthalmology.html

      • wllharrington

        The US did not create Israel. In 1948 The area now known as Israel, then called Palestine, was held by the British and the only people in it were nomadic tribes. A large group of Jews, displaced from Germany, Russia and other countries were on Cyprus. They petitioned the British to give them back their land, which had been theirs historically. When the British refused because the Arab community protested the Jews left Cyprus and landed on the land now known as Israel. The land was and, when occupied by the nomadic tribes, had been for many years a barren desert. The ‘Palestinians’ made no attempt to better the land. When the Jews came in they WORKED THE LAND and turned it into a green, arable land, something the uneducated, noninspired, nomads had not done. It should be noted that all the wars that Israel has been in were on their land and only as defense against attack. The Arab community is upset primarily because they LOST every time. Th Arab community (read Muslim) will never admit that their resentment stems from a religious disagreement in which the Muslims,once members of the Jewish faith, separated and started their own religion. They resent that the Jews worked and improved the land to better themselves, the Arabs worked for nothing since their wealth comes from oil with which they had nothing to do.

      • Pete DiOrio

        Can anyone tell me anything about the shared history of “Palestinians” as a political, social, or economic entity? What common language, previous governmental structures,achievements or contributions to history as a functioning society? Thanks.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are evil for even thinking such BS.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Israel is not the cause of your problems, you created the problems. It is easy to blame someone else to deflect from yourself.

      • Jana

        Nadzieja Batki,
        You are so right.

      • kilrntex

        You worship the wrong God Lutfi. If Satan could destroy Israel, he already would have as we saw in ’67 and ’73. You cannot defeat Israel then, now or ever! Satan is taking you on a one way ticket home. You will have plenty of AntiAmerican Democrats to keep you company there. Be sure to take plenty of H2O, because I hear it’s awful hot there and there’s no running water! Meanwhile I’ll pray for all of you to pull your heads out, step back and compare Gods. Yours wants to kill, kill, kill and ours wants everlasting life and to forgive and love your enemy! I have a hard time with that sometimes, but I’m working on it. Think about it before it’s too late. The God of Israel welcomes everyone to his kingdom through his son JESUS CHRIST! Yours offers you virgins? Are those the virgins you killed when they were born or slaughtered in your countries just because they were women? Sex would be the last thing on a Christians mind when we get to Heaven as there are more important things to look forward to. All earthly things will be gone. God bless America!

      • Tom

        Some of you need to read some history. Israil was “created” by the British. Israil as a “country” created themselves, the US was just the first country to recognize them AS a country.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Tom,

        May 1948

        The first countries to recognize Israel were the USA and the USSR.

    • wandamurline

      For me, I will stand with Israel. The Muslims are wanting world domination. If Israel needs to give up most of their country, then why shouldn’t America give up the states that we fought to keep…ie…Texas from Mexico and the entire US from England, Your logic is very lacking…it will not work and Israel should tell Obama to go and screw himself.

      • bob wire

        “The Muslims are wanting world domination.” an inconvenient truth that’s very hard to overlook.

        Seems is a process of assimilation and up to the women to stop if you look at it a certain way.

        I’m guessing here but I don’t think most American women would have any part of it if they understood the true design of the Arab.

        But women, much like men are not always informed, or understand and willing to believe whatever they are told if told nicely.

      • American Citizen

        The Muslims have stated that their aim is to conquer the world. They don’t really assiimilate, only pretend to. If they could do it right now, we would be under Sharia law.

      • http://none Floyd Hardee

        I will also stand with Israel! They are God’s chosen people. This does not mean that he doesn’t care for the rest of us, but only a fool would ever turn their backs on Israel….their enemies are God’s enemies. Eventually most countries will yield to the pressure of the Muslim World and to the will of Lucifer The Grand Puppet Master whose puppets these slaves are. Some will willingly desert Israel, others will with great reluctance, but when all appears to be lost Christ will have Gabriel to sound the trumpet and he will lead his army of Angels and Saints into battle riding white horses. Armageddon will be engulfed in the blood of Lucifer’s mighty army. Yes there will be a great earth quake and it will swallow up an entire army of Israel’s enemies all at one time. When all of these battles are concluded, Michael will capture Lucifer and bind him fast. He will be thrown into a bottomless pit and it will be sealed for one thousand years. Christ will rule with an iron hand and there will be peace and plenty in the land. After the thousand years Lucifer will be loosened for a short season and he will once again try to stir up a following. This uprising will quickly be put down and he (Lucifer) and his evil followers will be judged and then cast into The Lake of Fire. All of this that I say can be found in Revelations in the KJV of the bible. It is God’s word and his word will be fulfilled!

      • Al Sieber

        Yeah sure Floyd, then what does Revelation 2:9 & Revelation 3:9 mean? the old testament was talking about the Jews of old being God’s chosen people.

      • Bruce Btotnov

        Al – you need to understand that Rev 2:9 and 3:9 are part of the discussions of 7 different types of churches and can even be tracked as a trend in the church type of today. However between chapter 4 and 6 there is the translation of the church (body of Christ) out of here at the Rapture. The Antichrist appears in Chapter 6 and then most of the remaining chapters deal with the 7 year tribulation period culminating in the Battle of Armegeddon.

        The Old Testament is still valid today although we are in the dispensation of Grace and times of the Gentiles since the Jews rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah. However God told Abraham that he would bless those (nations) who bless thee and curse those who curse thee. That was an eternal covenant with Abraham and his seed. Woe be to the US for turning its back on Israel.

      • Jana

        Thank you Bruce, Great reply.

      • Al Sieber

        Bruce, woe be to the U.S.A. for turning it’s back on God, Israel has nothing to to with it.

      • kilrntex

        Wanda, you took the words right out of my mouth!

      • http://certus-certus.blogspot.com Raymond Harbin

        ” The gifts and callings of God are without repentance.” Declares God’s people of the past are God’s people in the present and God’s people of the future. I am 73. I noticed as a lad of 7 that the people called “anti-Semites” were different from most other people with whom I had any contact. At the age of 5 I was an avid reader– reading the front page, as well as the funnies. I often saw the name “Hitler”, but in 1942 there was little to read in any newspaper of his anti-Semitism, but I had a strange, ill defined fear of him – in news articles. He was always angry in newsreels, and like the adults I had over heard condemning Jews, the more he said, the angrier he became. I was a little guy of virtually no Christian training or influence except Mom’s brief bible stories– but by about 8 or 9 I discovered with no parental coaching that the word “Satanic” best categorized these haters of Jewish people– and at 73 I have not been able to choose a more apt adjective. Even a casual study of Jewish history, from Moses to Jesus to tonight’s news outlets will convince an unbiased, literate mind that the Jew survives today by the power of the Judeo/Christian God. Their’ s is a history of constant suffering but ethnically maintained by a greater number of miracles. It is a very dangerous habit to embrace people, or nations who hate Jews. We, as Americans do not understand radical Muslims.I have known many in earlier businesses with Jordan and other Arab States. None of our clever American cliches or common social/political definitions, fit the leaders of these states.
        How do you successfully deal with a mentality that interpret your every kindness as an act of fear and weakness. What chance is there in military negotiation after finding: THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS ALSO MY ENEMY.

    • UPCHUCK

      I have no love for our present leader, however, even a broken clock is right twice a day. It’s an open secret that the Israeliphiles are in charge of our Congress, so I don’t believe it’s going anywhere. We can always hope.

      • Vigilant

        Open secret my a$$! Got even one factual, legitimate source for your shopworn antisemitic BS?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        What rock have you crawled from under.

      • Push comes to shove

        No rock, he was UPCHUCKed along the hatred he spews.

    • Conservative at Birth

      You obviously hate Hebrews. Why, I must ask?

      • babybikerbabe

        Not from what I read.

        The majority of people are not educated enough to understand the difference between a Jew and an Isrealite. Not all Isrealites are Jews and not all Jews are Isrealites.

        You have to know your Old Testament and follow the lineage of the Edomites. Go do some reading.

        I am an Isrealite and I am not a Jew.

        Also – I am sick and tired of pundits and talking heads claiming that this country was founded on Judeo-Christian “principles”, “philosophies”, etc….

        That is BLANTANTLY false – this country was founded on CHRISTIAN principles. Leave the Judeo part alone.

      • http://WeThePeople Jean

        If you leave the Judeo Part alone – then you do not believe in the Old Testament. If you do not believe in the Old Testament – then the New Testament has no meaning as well.

        Begone you satanic BS

      • http://certus-certus.blogspot.com Raymond Harbin

        JEAN– SUPERB! JESUS WAS JEWISH– HIS BIRTH, DEATH–REASON FOR HIS EARTHLY PRESENCE ARE TRACED FROM THE O.T.– TO THE EARLIEST CHRISTIANS PAUL, MATHEW, LUKE, MARK…AD INFINITUM THE O.T. WAS THEIR BIBLE–THEIR ONLY BIBLE.

        AND THEY CONSTANTLY REFERENCED IT– THEIR GOD (AND OURS) IS THE GOD OF BOTH TESTAMENTS.

        SOME FOLKS SIMPLY TALK OF STUFF –COMPLETELY OVER THEIR HEADS– BECAUSE THE ARE FOND OF THE SOUND OF THEIR VOICES. AND THEIR WRITINGS HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE HERE.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So now you are a Jewish wanabe, replacing the Jews. So if the Jews are killed off, you will take their place.

      • Vigilant

        Don’t look now, but babybikerbabe just removed the Ten Commandments from all the places it’s posted in this country (Supreme Court, etc.).

        She says, laughably, “I am an Isrealite and I am not a Jew.”

        She can’t even spell her nationality correctly. I think we have a poser here….

      • American Citizen

        Christians are nothing less that completed Jews. Christian principles are based on Jewish principles as Jesus Christ was and always will be a Jew. He never renounced His Judaism. He is the fulfillment of the Old Testament.

      • http://certus-certus.blogspot.com Raymond Harbin

        YOU TRUNCATE HIS REALITY–”BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS–I AM.” JESUS HAD NO RELIGION– HE DIDN’T NEED ONE. HE HAD NO SIN TO BE COVERED BY HIS BLOOD– HAD HE– HIS BLOOD WOULD NOT WASH AWAY OUR SINS. HE WAS A MAN BUT TOTALLY GOD. IF THE BIBLE TOLD US THINGS COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD, IT WOULD NOT HAVE PROCEEDED FROM GOD–OUR FAITH, A GIFT OF GOD, COVERS OUR LACK OF FULL KNOWLEDGE “…NOW, WE KNOW IN PART, BUT THEN, WE SHALL KNOW AS WE ARE KNOWN.” AMEN

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Anthony,

      I agree with you,there is no historical evidence it ever belong to the Jews.
      Even some Rabbis will back up what I am saying,such as Rabbi Elmer Berger and many more.You wrote a very good article.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So you are another anti-semite.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        coal miner… You aren’t a Bible reader are you?

      • JeffH

        Robin, yeah, the Satanic Bible no doubt.

      • Jana

        Robin, coal miner reads from the Skeptics Bible. This is a false bible.

      • April

        LOL!! Sorry but this one is hard to resist. Jana and Jeff H, could it be the septic bible he reads, ya know, for the putrefacation precess of the mind??

      • April

        process that is

      • Jan

        The Jews are one of the 10 Tribes of Israel

      • April

        Actually, there are 13 tribes broken into two houses. The House of Judah: which consist mostly of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin and some of Levi brought along for leturgical duties;many of which stayed there in Israel; except the daughters of Zedekiah which went to Egypt, and then to Scone, Scotland. And then there is the house of Israel which make up the 10 lost tribes. Most of these tribes went north over the Caucuses Mountains and spread across Europe becomming many of the Germanic tribes.

    • Bernard Johnson

      Hear Hear. Pretty soon the American people will wake up and see the atrocities that the rest of the world already sees going on in the middle east sine 1948.

      A good friend of mine said the reason everything is OK with the European take over of the USA 300 years ago was because all of the rightful dwekers were NOT displacded but were pretty much killed – genocide.

      The mistake of the US and the Jews they cater too was NOT killing all of the Palestinians in 1948, and this is why now there is such a huge problem.

      9-11 and other various attacks are due to US foreign support of Israel. Go to YouTube and search on either “What motivated the 9/11 hijackers” or “Purpose of the 9/11 Attacks”

      It is not because of “freedom”.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Stupid, stupid, anti-semite.

      • Robinson

        Intelligent response

      • Al Sieber

        Nadzieja B, so if you don’t agree with everything Israel does you’re a anti-semite? is that all you can ever come up with? nothing intelligent? just you’re a anti-semite, what logic.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Then you define anti-semite. I would like to read your definition. Don’t use the dictionary,as I do know what the dictionary definition is.

      • JC

        What Hijackers? It was an inside job…or did hijackers plant all the explosives inside the towers too?

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        JC… Really? Are you able to offer proof of that?

      • JC

        Suggest you do your own homework.
        The buildings were obviously wired with explosives.
        And there are so many holes in the official story that is is laughable.

      • Carlucci

        I believe 911 was an inside job, too. Too many inconsistencies to the “official” story, which came out of….oh yeah, D.C. Just like this OBL nonsense, nothing but a pack of lies, lies, lies.

        BTW – Has anyone noticed the “pizza face” to the right of the screen? Watch that little film that goes with it if you haven’t already. I’m sure it is another photoshop. Dead people cannot keep their mouths closed – all muscle control everywhere goes slack.

      • Al Sieber

        You got that right JC, I did the research.

    • Steve

      Anthony, another Jew hater who prays to a Jew for salvation. LOL.

    • Al Sieber

      Very well put Anthony, I’m glad someone finally brought up the truth about what really happened, I know we have some people with dual citizenship (Israelis) running our Govt., and some control the media etc. and if you speak out about this you’re branded a anti-semite,if you disagree with anything Israel does you’re a anti-semite, that’s how brain washed we are. read the book “the Israeli Lobby”, this is a subject nobody will touch.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are as stupid as a rock, but then I would be insulting rocks.

      • Al Sieber

        Nadzieja, if that’s your best shot you’re in trouble, very intelligent come back, flattery will get you no where. you can do better then that. it’s apparent you don’t do your research, or read very much.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If the post is so un-intelligent why are you reading it and responding to it. Is someone holding you captive at the keyboard.
        What am I not reading that would satisfy you if I did?

    • Colleen

      What? Did you not read the article? If you did and disagree with the facts, did you bother to do any research on your own? Most likely not as you only chose to voice your own markedly flawed and biased opinions and anti-Semitic rantings!
      Get over it. It is stated very clearly in the Bible that God gave that land to the Jews as his chosen people. And the Arabs have been trying to wipe them out since then. Names have changed and Islam sprang up as a result of that hatred and envy.
      Your views of the “Zionists” is very telling and disgusting in it’s bias.
      We support Israel because it is the ONLY democracy in that whole region of vipers, despots, and self-serving dictators.
      Israel was attacked by the Arabs in a pathetic attempt to kill all Jews. Well, the fact of the matter is that the Arabs got their butts kicked.
      Israel never kicked the Arabs out….they ran because they were told to do so by their “leaders” who told them the Jews were coming to kill them all. Again another lie to inflame the fires of hatred by Arabs toward the Jewish peoples.
      The only thing missing in this article about the Arabs getting a life and moving on to a productive civilization: they cannot do it. They are stuck in the 7th century with clerics and dictators who want to keep their people stuck in that mindset of poverty, ignorance, illiteracy. Very few of their people get out, get an education and make something of themselves and actually have a productive and happy, free life.
      So…..you need to grow up, get some REAL education and try to not whine too much about how Israel has grown and prospered. Your class warfare is just plain tired and stupid.

      • Bernard Johnson

        Facts? Your bible is not my bible. My Bible says the US really belongs to me and other native americans and that god promised it to us. So with China backing us we will take it back – the native american state – we will only take a quarter of the US back – for now. In a few years more. And then more. And then you all can live in a concentration camp in Kansas, we’ll put up a wall, kill your children and refuse you supplies. Then when a few renegade “americans” bomb the Twin Towers of Beijing as a way to wake up the Chinese as to the atrocities in Kansas caused by the Chinese government backing the Native American occupation in the US, when interviewed, the Chinese president can say “the Americans in Kansas did this to our towers because they hate our communism.”

        Walk a mile in someone else’s shoes and realize yours is not the only bible nor the only point of view. How about the 1947 borders? Or borders of 1900? or 1800 or 1700? or 1600?, or 1500? or 1400? or 1300?, or 1200, ……

      • DaveH

        Okay. So humans(mostly leaders) have acted atrociously in the past. What’s new? The best we can do is agree to behave morally now and in the future, and eliminate Force from our society to the fullest extent possible.
        There could be no better world than that created by voluntary transactions between humans with no coercion by parties outside the tranactions’ participants. It would be a world where people respected the rights of others to control their own bodies and own property (that includes money), and where people would be subject to discipline by other human beings only when they have trespassed on the bodies and property of others.
        It would be a world where Government’s prime mission would be to protect people from the force of others. It would be a world where men and women in Government obeyed the same rules of morality that men and women on Mainstreet must obey.
        It would be a peaceful world. It would be a prosperous world. It would be a Libertarian world.

      • Kate8

        Bernard – That attitude is one that has been fostered by Liberals to create even more division.

        EVERY NATION on the Earth has experienced the effects of human migration. It is the way of life. Not one single continent is inhabited by it’s indigenous people. Even the Native Americans migrated here from somewhere. Earth has had people moving around for millenia, civilization cycle after cycle. And will continue to do so.

        We’ve been sold a bill of goods, as far as Earth history, in order to keep us resenting one another. Sure, atrocities are committed, people are displaced…but, in serving the communist agenda, we’ve been taught that caucasians are the scourge of the Earth and everyone else lived in harmony with the Earth and each other. It’s total BS, but it keeps the racial wars stoked, even though none of us were even around then. And other peoples are coming still, changing the face of America yet again.

        For some reason, we in America get singled out as being interlopers.
        I guess it just depends on how far back one wants to go in determining who was there first, because you will always find someone who came earlier.

        Gee. Where I live was, only a few years ago, a peaceful bastion of conservatism. Now the liberals have swarmed in and ruined everything. I know a lot of folks who would have liked to keep them out, and would kick them out, still.

      • American Citizen

        Even the Indian tribes fought one another. There will always be tension between nations, even those who are friendly towards one another. Look at what is happening right now because of the monetary situation around the world. Obama is adept at making our friends suspicious of us.

      • Robinson

        To Kate8 “EVERY NATION on the Earth has experienced the effects of human migration. It is the way of life.” – The issue we are speaking of has nothing to do with ancient history or what was promised by a god in legendary times. This is as recent as 1948/1967/2000/today.

        This isn’t the dark ages and we are no longer cavemen. Your argument is good at explaining the errors of our ancestors. Native American Indians were displaced from their land 100-400 years ago. Jews from Israel over 2000 years ago. That argument is really no longer valid. I have more respect for the Native American Indian argument.

        The simple fact is Palestine was Palestine in the eyes of the world before 1948, on every map, and before the American Indians were exterminted/displaced. Nothing to do with God. I am talking politics and recorded history – recent history.

        Just because displacement (or “migration” as you dressed it up) was done many times by other nations long long ago (the times you cite) or even now by other nations(if at all), does make not more than a tenuous point at best.

        I didn’t even mention any of the atrocities comitted by Israel against the Palestinians, nor did I name call or act anti semitic.

      • Kate8

        Robinson – I’m not sure what that rant was about, but ancient history or more current history, things don’t ever really change. There is even more migration going on today than ever, due to rapid transportation. In fact, it has been facilitated and encouraged, in order to mingle cultures for globalist purposes.

        To blame people living today for deeds done 200, or even 100 years ago is ridiculous. Things are what they are, and there isn’t much we can do to change it. None of us were here then, so to have to carry guilt over such things is non-productive. Same for the Native Americans. Europeans, and people from the world over, aren’t going to return to their ancestral origins in order to give the land back to the Indians, so for NAs to continue to lament the past, handing down resentment to each new generation, only keeps them stuck in the past. It’s time to move forward.

        There are also many of us who have only been in America for a few generations. Are we also to blame?

        Muslims are now gaining great numbers in Europe and changing the demographics there, as well. This is current. And it is not for the better. We are not far behind.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Bernard.
        My grand mother on my mother’s side was a full blooded Indian.The Jews that occupied Palestine are white and have no trace of semitic blood,they are the proverbial whites stealing land from the proverbial Indians,(the Arabs).Stop backing Isreal.Give the land back to its rightful owners.It belongs to the Arabs,not Jews.

      • Tom

        Since I see so many people refering to the Bible, let me say that in response to those who think the land belongs to the Arab…..Somewhere in the Bible is a passage that says “The land belongs to whomever nutures it”……The Jews. Period. Dosn’t matter how they acquired, It’s a Desert for God’s sake!. If the Jews had not irrigated, planted and nurtured it, it’s would still be a desert. They made something, they created, it’s their’s! So far the no one’s been able to take it away from them and I doubt anyone can. Good for them! Let the Jews keep it. They deserve a homeland. I have nop sympathy for the Palistinanians for reasons stated elsewhere on this site. They have no willingness to support them selves and only whish to whine and bitch about what happenned 63 years ago. Isrial is here to stay. Get over it!

      • Robinson

        Yes it belonged to the Arabs in 1948 and back a few milenium…

      • fundamentalattributionerror

        excellent analogy Bernard! I appreciate your way of thinking. Jeff

      • Al Sieber

        Colleen, Israel is not a Democracy, it’s a Theocracy run by the religious leaders.

      • Vigilant

        Sorry, Al, you’re entirely wrong on that.

        From http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_form_of_government_does_Israel_have :

        “Israel operates under a parliamentary system as a democratic country with universal suffrage. The President of Israel is the head of state, but his duties are largely ceremonial. A Parliament Member supported by a majority in parliament becomes the Prime Minister, usually the chairman of the largest party. The Prime Minister is the head of government and head of the Cabinet. Israel is governed by a 120-member parliament, known as the Knesset. Membership in the Knesset is based on proportional representation of political parties. Parliamentary elections are held every four years, but the Knesset can dissolve the government at any time by a no-confidence vote. The Basic Laws of Israel function as an unwritten constitution. In 2003, the Knesset began to draft an official constitution based on these laws.”

        You’ll find NO legitimate source ANYWHERE to substantiate the falsehood that Israel is a theocracy.

      • Al Sieber

        Vigilant, I found the source years ago, I’ll try and find it again for you, but it has to be later this evening, because I’m off to work now.

      • American Citizen

        It sounds like it’s based on the British system of government. And yes, it is a democracy or free country. Too bad the countries in the Middle East will not learn from the Israelis.

      • Al Sieber

        Vigilant, go to the website, i am the witness .com. and find, Daryl Bradford Smith, the French Connection.

      • Vigilant

        Sorry, Al, I went to that site and saw immediately what it was. The first article that caught my eye was “General Eisenhower: A hero who saved us from Nazis? Or a Mass Murdering Zionist?”

        That’s what I call a “fringe lunacy” site and it warrants no more of my attention. Anything it might have said about Israel not being a democratic form of government has to be unmitigated BS.

      • Martin

        I never knew god worked as a real estate agent to give israel to the jews.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Martin … God is owner of all in the universe. It is His to do as He wishes.

      • JC

        Do you have any proof of that?

      • JC

        I’m kidding btw.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Colleen,
        You mean Joseph Stalin was God.Wow.God works on both sides of the fence,no matter how sleazy.They said God is the author of good and evil. I belive it. We are blaming poor old Satan for all the evil in the world,it was God all along. If thats true we will have to go and blame somebody,Satan would make a perfect fall guy. Oh hell,why not throw the Arabs in for good measure.That would sweeten the pot. That way the world can turn a blind eye on what is really going on.What do you think?

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        coal miner… Your life must be horrible. Without God in it, it couldn’t be happy. You may try to be humorous, but God is not a joke. You will reap what you sow.

    • WoodPecker

      Good and correct discourse! This author just spit out the Israeli lies. We need to care of the sordid Jews over here because they corrupt almost everything in sight here, from politicians, political process, morality, finacial system, etc.. How can we put up with all this insulting crap — letting the criminal Israel spit in our face for very wrongly helping financial, militarily, politically, and physically(blood)! Anyway, without a just peace, the Palestinians and Arabs will continue to fight, and eventually Israel will be destroyed. So it’s better the arrogant Israel and Jews all over to sue for a just peace — or else you’ll be a goner in due time! Also, the jews over here(USA) should feel trepidation — more and more Americans are waking and realizing how they have been had by the sordid Jews and retributions will be timely and harsh and deserved.

      • Vigilant

        Well, well, old Peckerwood is back with his absolutely unsubstantiated antisemitic crap! With an IQ as low as yours, do you find it difficult to wipe your own backside without referring to written instructions?

      • WoodPecker

        Well, if my statement is so out and out — try to rebut them instead of throwing that disgusting anti-semitic bomb at people! I stated the truth, and bad people need to be punished.

      • DaveH

        How does one dispute conjecture? I mean, for sure we could counter with conjecture, but what would they prove one way or the other?
        In any logical debate, when one party accuses the other party of wrong doing, the accuser suffers the burden of proof.
        So, where’s your proof?

      • Vigilant

        Peckerwood says, “We need to care of the sordid Jews over here because they corrupt almost everything in sight here..” And then you use the adjective “sordid” to describe them one more time.

        Sordid: “filthy, dirty; mercenary; of degraded character, vile, base.”

        If that ain’t antisemitism, then antisemitism does not exist.

      • WoodPecker

        You all know what I described in my statement, and if I stated the truth…sordid or whatever then it’s anti-semetic? Maybe you Jews or the duped gentiles want people to say anything truly bad about the Jews. Of course, the Israelis are saints — nothing bad came on the mainstrean media despite condemnation over many, many Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians. President Carter wrote a book; he’s just one of the few that Israel allowed into the occupied territories; and he stated the facts. And of course, your types tried and will try to say that’s not true; Carter probably lied, and so infatuated with Arabs…LOL

      • Vigilant

        If you can’t see what everyone else does, that your statements are not even borderline anti-semitic, then you indeed have a problem with reality. You and your fellow psychopathics need a medication not found in cyberforums such as this.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I am really curious how you determine who are good people or bad people.

    • PeggyB

      Anthony – Excellent post!

    • Michael

      Are you a white=supremacist? Do you believe Jesus was a norseman in ancient palestine? We have an ally in Israel.

    • Tom

      Anthony
      I don’t know what your smoking but you need to get a grip.

  • Another Voice

    OK, let’s say for purposes of argument that the US has the right to ‘lean on’ Israel. Who is going to put pressure on the Palestinians? Syria? Iran? Do you think for a minute that the Palestinians will stop shelling Israel or blowing up buses in Tel Aviv if they have a chance? DaveH is right: we need to just butt out. Don’t we have enough problems of our own? There will be no peace between Israel and the Palestinians until both sides actually want peace, period. It’s their decision, not ours.

    • Kate8

      Israel was created precisely to be a source of irritant in the Middle East. It was to serve as a port in the Islamic world, and a reason to create tension and war.

      Prior to the regathering in Israel, that area was a wasteland where nearly no one lived. It was never “Palestine”, and “Palestinians” were mostly alienated Jordanians. It was only after the Jews made Israel bloom and prosper that it became desirable.

      The truth is that the Arab nations WANTED to keep the “Palestinian” people as permanent “refugees” in order to evoke world sympathy, and to have an excuse for their hatred and violence against the West.

      This was all prophesied. It was also part of the plan of the NWO, and it is they, the world elite, who keep the US involved in these senseless wars. The American people have unwittingly been manipulated into accepting the role as world Bully at the behest of foreign interests, and have sown the seeds of our own destruction by poking into an Islamic hornet’s nest.

  • DaveH

    As Robert says “The truth is that the situation is so complex no one knows all the facts”. And that is why we need to butt out of other countries’ conflicts.

    • bob wire

      agreed ! but if one must ~ there must be some starting point.

      Any “starting point” will not be the final conclusion.

      I’d prefer to stay clear, let the big dog win and be done with the matter.

      win, lose or draw. Find them where they fell.

      • jose Rios Jovel

        If you were a DOG I would understand your comment but since we are talking about human being one have to be morally balance to speak your mind, don’t do unto others what you don’t want for yourself.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree Dave, we need to mind our own business and take care of our own.

      • FreedomFighter

        I support Israel.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • April

        AMEN! and
        SEMPER FI!!

      • Harold Olsen

        As do I. The media, though, doesn’t help much. They show themselves to be anti-Israel, not to mention anti-Semites, the same as the rest of the left. So-called news outlets, such as the New York Times, will not use the word “terrorist” when referring to Arabs and Muslims who kill innocent people. That would be politically incorrect. They, instead, use the word “extremists.” Yet, when referring to Israel who, for the most part, acts in self-defense, do get referred by as “terrorists.”

      • DaveH

        I am inclined to side with Israel intellectually, but we are no better than the Liberals if we use other peoples’ money to support our agenda. Those who want to support Israel should do so with their own money.

      • Old Henry

        Freedom Fighter:

        All one needs do is read the Old Testament to see what happens to nations that do not support Israel.

        Do you and your brother Marines now pronounce the “s” since we have all been corrected?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Amen brother. Genesis 12:1-3. Those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed. The day we turn our back on them, were toast. Guaranteed.

      • skip

        Old Henry – ever hear of the New Testament? Give it a try – Christianity was based on it for while.

      • Verus Langham

        THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST REPORTS I HAVE READ ON THIS ISSUE; and it should be read and understood by all who want the U.S. ally known as Israel to survive…. moreover, if we do not understand that if we fail to stand with Israel (not just stand behind them) against the onslaught of the Muslim world we will ultimately seal our fate… we must understand the Word of God plainly foretells the future of any nation that turns its back on Israel is doomed in the end to suffer a complete collapse. Should we ignore the Bible and what it teaches us about this one seemingly small tenet? Either we join Israel in her valiant efforts to survive amidst the terror of Islam or we will capitulate to another unjust and corrupt world system of government; the United States of America will become these United States of Islam and the Muslims will dictate our futures, not ourselves.

      • DC/Tex

        I agree the US should let the world know that we stand with Israel and will fight with and beside them to protect their land from any one that wants to destroy them.
        That is why muslims want to take over the US, because we have stood with Israel.
        That is why America’s number one muslim is in the the Presidents Office and is doing his very best to destroy our way of life.
        The US should stop giving our tax dollars to countries that hate us, all money that is given to a foreign country should be donated by the folks that think they deserve it and make sure it does not go to the crooks and corrupt governments. Volunteer giving not being forced by our own corrupt government run by the Chicago crime mob.
        Looking forward to the 2012 election and pray that obama has awaken a sleeping giant. We must vote obamaisam out.

      • Old Henry

        DCTEX:

        “Looking forward to the 2012 election and pray that obama has awaken a sleeping giant. We must vote obamaisam out”.

        First, however, we must look forward to the 2012 PRIMARY and get the correct candidate on the ballot.

        I am beginning to strongly suspect that Limbaugh is nothing more than an establishment Republican in sheep’s clothing. He is beginning to trumpet Newtie (today) and not so off-handedly smear Cain and Libertarians.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Old Henry- I am inclined to agree with you.

      • DC/Tex

        Old Henry,
        At this point I would vote for a trained parrot, it would not have to use a tele-prompter and could out debate “O”ne “B”ig “A”ss “M”istake “A”merica

      • letitsnow1

        that is soooo true, we must stand with Israel, they fall, so will we. we must not give obama that sadisfaction.

      • Mary

        Nothing will change the future of Israel. This is part of God’s plan. You know Israel will not be totally destroy before that happen Jesus will come and will destroy Israel’s enemies starting with Egypt. Nothing is going to get better. No matter what we do. We are going to be dust by that time. This is just the beginning of pains. We haven’t see nothing yet. If somebody have any information about what happen when to the USA goes against Israel please let me know. I’m curious because an old man told that when Clinton was against Israel we had Andrew and when Bush did the same we had Katrina. The tornados are getting to close just 15 minutes from my town.

      • MA61

        I agree with you Mary, Obama and his allies (NWO,CFR,Bilderberg,&bankers) should all go to hell. They will not destroy Israel. Israel has a stronger and bigger allied. Not even the US can fight the big boss. If God is on there side who can be strong enough to fight them. Obama’s time will come and he will be recorded in history as the a fascist dictator and puppet for the gods he serves. He is a disappointment to his people, he sold his soul for the wrong reasons. The people of this great nation cannot take it any longer and things will have to change, real change not lies.

      • SherylS

        I totally agree with your “best report” comment. The fact of the matter is that the Jewish people only have one country they can call their own: Israel. True, a number of them live in other countries, but Israel is the only all-Jewish state. The Arabs, on the other hand, have a multitude of countries in which they can live among their Arab-speaking, Islamic neighbors. If the Palestinian “refugees” are still living in filthy, hand-to-mouth existence in “refugee camps”, it is their own responsibility. They have numerous other countries, where they same language is spoken and the same religion is practiced, to which they could have long since moved to start again. Their “I-am-a-victim” mentality is simply foolishness, and America should never buy into it! Hold them accountable for their own condition!

      • noonebutme

        Up until the 1948 Israeli Declaration of Independance (followed almost immediately bu the attack of the combined Arab League countries, the country which existed in the area around the Jordan river was called “Trans-Jordan and governed by the British. In 1948, after years of conflict, Great Britian allowed Israel to declare independance. The area commonly known as the “west bank” was part of Jordan.

        As stated before (so well) when you loose a war (as the Arab countries have done in 1948, 1967 ans 1973), oh well – sux to be you. Let the “Palestinians” (i.e.: Jordanians) go back to Jordan.

        Make the Golan Heights a DMZ (heck, we have one in Korea).

        No clue as to what to do about Gaza, though… They still shoot rockets into civillian territory every now and again…

      • http://Yahoo.com john the baptist

        I believe that all those palestians, and the other facist pigs need to
        climb back on to their camels and head east to the desert where they belong. They cry about being captive but have done nothing for decades
        about it. Why don’t their brothers(muslims) help them? They say they are peaseful and loving people,HA,HA,HA. The proof is in the puttin.

      • Patricia

        I agree , could not be put any better. I also think Mr. Ringer is biased

      • Patricia

        My mail was to Dave and Sieber

      • Gregg Weber

        If you believe the Bible then you will try to support Israel and be blessed.
        If you believe the Koran then you will try to destroy Israel and help bring on the Hidden Imam.
        If you believe the atheist then you believe that there is no “why”.

    • Mark

      It’s not complicated at all, Get over it, shake hands and make up and start moving on in a forward direction. The Muslims of the world are still stuck in the 11th century. It’s time to grow up and start acting like adults.

      • Kate8

        Mark – Muslims will never be ALLOWED to get over it, because they are kept whipped up in religious fervor and givin a “divine” mandate to rid the world of all infidels. “First the Saturday people, and then the Sunday people”.

        They are the perfect tool of the NWO, for creating maximum mayhem and death, and for reducing the Judeo-Christian population. Right now they’ve partnered up, but in the end the NWO, who only suffers fools as long as they are useful to them, will have to eliminate them, as well, as they are far too much trouble.

        The same goes for the liberal entitlement class.

      • TIME

        Mark & Kate,

        Saddly most folks around the world know little of the Muslim culture, so a basic insight; ( Muslim’s educate based on their religion, They Govern based on their Religion, Their laws are based on their religion. They act and think based only on their religion.)
        Thus they are a 100% Religion based format.

        The Muslim religion offers no PLACE at all for the Individual types, You know the ones that crave FREEDOM to do as they please.
        One must conform to the set standards of the Religion, and “nothing” else will be tolerated.
        Females, are little more than a chair or a empty box.
        Education is little more than to learn how to serve their Master’s.
        There will be no upward movement for anyone not born of that class, you must be born of a Religious class to be such. Thus anyone not in either of these class’s will never be anything more than just a simple cog in the greater wheel of life to serve your masters.

        The Muslim religion will not allow persons to not conform, again where is the Free Thinker in that format? There is no free thinking there is not growth its keeping the mass’s stupid and under control.

        Thus the Muslim religion really is not living in the 11 centry, its truly like living 5000 years ago, its not nearly PRE Historic thinking, it is.
        There are only two grade’s of people, the “Leaders,” and everyone else.

        So in America where we used to be free, Free Thinkers were found if you just extended an arm, saddy as of today thats not the case. We stopped teaching FREE THINKING years ago, thanks to the DOE and the NEA.
        Thus free thinkers in the USA is nearly as hard to find as in any Muslim country now.

        Its not the Muslims that have done this to the population of the United States but all the POLITICIANS who have sold YOUR freedoms away over the years for that special summer house or to send their kid’s to the best schools in the world.

        So, yes overall we have changed as a nation, we have in facts gone backwards and the Muslims have stayed the same.
        The NWO has your Telie rigged, your bank rigged, you politicians rigged, your life rigged.

        Thus the Muslims are the perfect fit for the never ending war where millions of people will die only to serve as a means to an end for the NWO. “POWER FEEDS on MORE POWER.”
        The America we all felt we knew is only a few short step’s away from a 1984 way of life.

        Thus ~ my questiuon to everyone is: will that work out well for you and your family? Is that what you really want?

        If so then stay the same and believe with out question what your leaders tell you and it will just all fall in place.

        If not wake up everyone you can. You will need to explain it all in very small bites; as its really just way to much to take in all at once.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Wow! TIME that was an excellent post! You summed it up quite well. Thanks!

      • bob wire

        Common ground is nice to find Time.

      • TIME

        Robin,

        I do try to make things simple and straight forward.

        Bob,

        You an I are really not all that differant.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest domedave

        Well said….a must ready for anybody that cares for civilized society

      • http://www.barrassoandsons.com Frank P. Barrasso

        I don’t believe President Obama is selling out Israel.
        I think he is doing an excellent Job and he well knows
        Israel is a strategic and important to the United States
        of america. Give our President a chance to do his job,
        what has any of there other Presidents done ? People
        like you just need to have something to write about and give
        your opinion on. I think President Obama is doing an excellent
        Job, maybe the leaders in Israel should learn to listen to him
        and change there attitudes…they sound like there corrupt anyway.
        Why does the United States of America have to have a solution for
        Israel…I do not see anything President Obama has done that has
        hurt Israel to this very day. Thank You Frank P. Barrasso

      • TIME

        Frankie duh Man,

        Its obvious that your meds are wearing off dude, perhaps you should go and pop a few pills before your little head expoldes.
        Or just get off the meds and try and get some sleep take a good long walk it may clear the cotton candy from around your brain.

        As well you may wish to give up drinking when taking your meds that tends to really mess with that gray matter, and it seems like you have very little left.
        OH lookie I made a funny, “little left,” LMAO ~ Hey I think I hear your name being called over at Media Matters, :-( and the Huffin on my Post.

      • TiLt

        The voice of vision! You’ve been reading my personal notes. The mideast turmoil will look like kid stuff after the Islamics of asia/east asia/indonesia get rolling. The legions of China/India/Russia (NWO) will sweep them away after their purpose has been served.

      • Old Henry

        Mark:

        After ONE THOUSAND years (That’s ten centuries for you Obama voters) do you really think they will change?

        I for one do not, and I think the time has come to play Cowboys and Muslims.

      • Edward Chandler

        Again Husein Obamer has embarrassed us in front of the whole world.
        Will he ever go away??????

      • Old Henry

        Edward:

        He has no intention of EVER going away. He has ensconced himself in OUR White House and fully intends to stay put.

        Today, 5/24/2011, he signed the guest book at Westminster Abby and dated it 24 May 2008!

      • Carlucci

        I know – ! Can you believe it? Ovomit apparently thinks it is 2008 -!

        I’ll bet those Brits are laughing their bums off…

      • letitsnow1

        thats so funny. you really think that they would grow up and shake our hands, really, they will shake our hands? i mean the muslims, will shake our hands, REALLY? not unless they can have our heads, after shaking our hands, really, shake our hands, really? wake the hell up, get your head out of your assand hear and see what is really going on in this world.

    • Linda Eppinger – Texas

      When will “Westerners” get it through their minds that — “Muslims Hate Everyone, even other Muslims” We will never live in peace with them. I for one do not even care to try anymore. If they leave us alone, we leave them alone. If they attack us, just kill them. end of problem, end of story.

      • Linda

        From one Linda to another – Right On! I totally agree with you. It’s time to tell radical Muslims living in the Dark Ages still that they can do anything that want to do in their own countries. That’s pretty much their right, BUT if they attack us, then they need to know they’ll be a parking lot. If there is one thing Muslims in the Middle East understand, it’s strength and power. They don’t respect weaklings and those who meander around the truth and plead for compromise. If you look them in the eye and say what you will do and mean it, they understand and will then negotiate or back off.

        The ones I feel sorry for are all the everyday Palestinians who have been conned by their leaders to leave in poverty as victims in the faint hope that someday Resurrection Day will come for them and they can return to their “homeland”. They have been pawns for indoctrination and tools for terror and war for far too long. Just think where they would be today IF they had collaborated with Israel in 1948 and formed a Middle East Union of States or a strong, multi-cultural Israel that worked together toward the prosperity that Israel has since achieved. But the leaders didn’t want that to happen because they were and are power-grubbing users of their own people.

        In truth, I believe that when Israel was formed, the new country asked the Palestinians to stay and help build the country. Instead, the Palestinians, many of whom would have stayed, were ordered by their Arab leaders to leave Israel and become refugees and victims for future political purposes. How sad and how mean that was. The Palestinians have been victimized by their own leaders ever since and especially when Israel offered real peace deals during the Clinton Administration ( 96-97% of what the Palestinians wanted – Arafat just said no to preserve his own power base and keep getting all the millions he was scamming).

      • Jan

        Linda, Double Right on.
        You hit the nail on the head. My Palestinian ex-husband has said as much. In his words — their biggest mistake was in NOT accepting the 1948 olive branch extended from newly formed Israel.

        Now, after nearly 25 years of American citizenship the former “victim” is a scary card carrying new Muslim convert – and takes pains to make sure he looks the part.

      • always right

        Linda, isolationsism isn’t an option anymore. travel time on a nuke-tipped missle is 15-30 minutes from there to here. Could a city evacuate that quickly? Not likely. Travel time in a tactical (suitcase) nuke from our southern border to L.A. or Houston is just a couple of hours. Travel time for Marburg, Ebola, Hemorragic Fever, genetically altered smallpox (drug resistant), anthrax, etc. is minutes. The carriers gets off one infected aircraft and moves to his next flight, to infect yet another group of passengers and he doesn’t even have to come to the US. All he has to do is connect on flights with US-bound passengers. 9/11 showed that isolationism has failed and will continue to fail. Like roaches and ants they need to be destroyed where they nest to keep them out of the house.

      • DaveH

        Who said anything about isolationism? She was talking about minding our own business unless we are attacked. Then we should kick butt, and shortly thereafter go back to minding our own business.
        Virtually every great empire spread itself too thin, and fell prey to the rabble hoards. Let’s be smarter than they were.
        Impoverishing ourselves with military excursions around the world is just going to make it easier for all the enemies our Government has created for us.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I respectfully disagree. The trouble is already here.

    • http://www.reformdc.com nax777

      I’ll remember that should I see two people kicking you but!

      It is irrational to think that any nation can save more than a hand full of people from overpopulated poorer nation. Especially when most refuse to change their life style and blame the Jones’s for their plight.

      It is irrational to call mom a Nazi A. hole for giving people a ride back home to keep her home from overpopulation. It is irrational to think that any single payer social program will work best. It is irrational to think that nations can tax its way out of poverty. It is irrational to believe that a power convinced that you have nowhere else to go will do your biding.

      No one is going to stand in their way the template to convince people that a rational person is a very sick or stupid SOB must be removed first. And only you can remove yours. The misuse of Negative Theory must be taught to future generations.

      A true Conservative and a true Liberal agree on one thing though for different reasons. Any single payer social program is a nutty idea! Now each believes that it’s not so nutty as long as their side is managing it.

      We can destroy the power by replacing them with citizens that can be immediately removed by citizens should they grow a greedy bone and never serve for a life time. We must take control ourselves. Please join with us at Goooh.com you might be able to click on my name. This will take you to my link page that links to Goooh.com, NumbersUSA.com and SBA-list.org.

      P.S. Have you heard of “you cut” @ http://majorityleader.gov/YouCut/

      • http://Google Glen

        HAY<<<< I am a JONES and I disagree with keeping up with the JONES'S. Start using keeping up with the SCRUCKENGUSSE's

    • Bert Cundle

      The truth is: The Origional Difination of ISRAL; Overcommer (s)! Many Take Offense to that! Another name for Government! It has been said, He that overcomeith all, recieves utmost victory. (But, He that realy overcomith all, hath NOTHING!!!)Isralies are not to be connected with or as, Jews! Jews, are the Citizens of Judia.

    • David

      Amen brother! I can not believe that no one sees or points out the hypocrisiesin this presidents word and actions. He began his term apologizing for what he sees as american colonialism and medaling in other countries affairs and what does he do, he starts helping his muslem brothers and telling another sovereign nation what it has to do in the face of its sworn enemies. Oboma is truely a hypocritical fool!

    • DavidS

      Amen brother! I can not believe that no one sees or points out the hypocrisies in this presidents word and actions. He began his term apologizing for what he sees as american colonialism and medaling in other countries affairs and what does he do, he starts helping his muslem brothers and telling another sovereign nation what it has to do in the face of its sworn enemies. Oboma is truely a hypocritical fool!

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