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Supreme Courts Affirm The Police State

May 23, 2011 by  

Supreme Courts Affirm The Police State

Our descent into a police state is complete, as evidenced by rulings by the Indiana and U.S. Supreme Courts which, last week, effectively and finally abolished the 4th Amendment.

No longer are American citizens “secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,” thanks to the two rulings affirming police authority to bash down your door and enter your home without a warrant. Resisting such an incursion is now a crime. If it weren’t obvious before that we live in a fascist system under guise of Democracy, surely, it must be now.

In Indiana, the Supreme Court ruled 3-2 “that there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” The U.S. Supreme Court’s 8-1 ruling affirmed that officers can kick down a door if they smell marijuana or hear noises indicative of the destruction of evidence. (Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented, writing, “Police officers may now knock, listen, then break the door down, never mind that they had ample time to obtain a warrant.”) The fact that the door they kicked in was not the door their suspect had entered was irrelevant to the court.

Of course, we told you a couple of weeks ago about the case of Maryanne Godboldo, who had a Detroit Police SWAT team crash into her home and remove her daughter because Godboldo made the perfectly reasonable and rational choice to determine what medication her daughter should take.

And we’ve previously told you about the assault on the 4th Amendment by the Department of Homeland Security through the porn show/gropefest at the airports and, just as egregious, the home peepshow enabling the Z Backscatter Van™ that is now rolling on American streets.

But the court rulings are among the first to affirm the police state. And they open us up to a system where the police have carte blanche to do as they please.

Think this is an overreaction? Tell it to the citizens of Newton County, Ind., whose sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., told the Mike Church radio show on Thursday that random house-to-house searches are now possible because of the Indiana Supreme Court’s ruling.

“(H)e emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house (sic) checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal,” according to a posting on Church’s website. By Thursday afternoon there was a Facebook page calling for Hartman’s removal from office.

The Founders are surely weeping for an America they no longer recognize.

Our country became great and prosperous because its citizens were allowed to own property. The Founders subscribed to the theory of John Locke that “if (a person) be absolute lord of his own person and possessions, equal to the greatest, and subject to no body, why will he part with his freedom? Why will he give up this empire, and subject himself to the dominion and control of any other power?”

The elites understand this as well. That is why there is an assault on property rights, like in the ruling in Kelo v. The City of New London. It’s why a system based on property taxes is so egregious, because the State forces you to pay for the right to own your own property and can take it away at the force of a gun if, through some financial hardship or error, you don’t pay the tax in a timely manner.

The fascist elites in government are winning. We have become the despotism of an oligarchy, which Thomas Jefferson warned about when he wrote: “It is a very dangerous doctrine to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all Constitutional questions. It is one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.”

We have told you before of the folly of expecting any of the ruling class to do anything or make any laws or rulings that would deny them more power. The President, members of Congress, the bureaucrats who occupy the offices of government, the justices, judges, lawyers, accountants and officers of the court system are employees of and for government. Their desire is to accumulate more power for government and more power and prestige for themselves. It is a desire that knows no party affiliation.

John Adams wrote: “… because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

That is where we are. We as a nation have rejected God and spat upon his principles. We have put in power people who see themselves as gods — elitists who think they know more than we and who think they know better than we how we should live our lives. We’ve allowed them to dictate what kind of cars we drive, what kind of light bulbs we can use, how much water our toilets flush, what foods we can eat, what doctors we see, what drugs we can — or must — take and what harmful chemicals can be placed in our water. And then we sat back as the oligarchy banned any and every mention of God in schools and public places.

We have rejected the teachings of our fathers. We have turned our backs on liberty and accepted the perceived safety net of tyranny. We slept while the Constitution burned.

The 1 percent in government controls the 99 percent. Of those 99 percent, 49.5 percent are perfectly content to be controlled as long as the “free” money comes their way. The remaining 49.5 percent is divided among those who are so unaware that they are unaware they are unaware, those who are aware but don’t know what to do, and those who know what’s coming and have been preparing.

Those who are aware but don’t know what to do scream at the top of their lungs that things are wrong. They don’t know exactly what things are wrong, or why, just that they are.

They have been blinded by the 1 percent, which controls through gross deception. They are being stolen from and lied to. They are being herded like sheep to the slaughter, and the last vestige of hope in the court system has betrayed them.

Failing regimes respond in their death throes by engaging in perpetual wars, debasing their currency and clamping down on the freedoms of their people. As the power elites try to hold on to their last vestiges of control, they enslave their subjects through the tyranny of a police state.

We live in a country that once threw off the shackles of tyranny. Our Founders chose not to tolerate a police state that allowed armed soldiers of the crown to enter homes at will, ransack, pillage and abuse. They understood such practices violated hundreds of years of law that established that a man’s home was his castle and not subject to invasion by the regime.

Such abuses were so egregious to the Founders that they were among the ones specifically mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

The system is collapsing. All around the world — from China to Europe to the Middle East — the proletariat is rising up. People are protesting rising food prices and lack of freedom and clamoring for a form of democracy. The regimes respond to the protests with violence, sometimes aided and abetted by the United States and its form of humanitarianism.

In America, the proles still sleep, but they are stirring. Those who are aware are finding their legs and their voices, as evidenced by last November’s elections. Every day, more of the unaware are waking from the fog of conventional wisdom.

If you have not yet begun to prepare for the coming storm, you have waited almost too long. The winds are against you now. Gold tells the story of the rapid descent of the system. It takes almost twice as many fiat dollars to purchase an ounce today as it did just two years ago.

But gold remains a bargain. Silver, too. Store food and water for the hard times, which are nearer than you think. The ride is getting bumpy. It will get worse before it gets better. For most, life will soon be very difficult.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Protonius

    It seems that there are problems on all sides of this issue. So can anyone offer a truly workable solution, one that ESTABLISHES and protects our rights, and which ALSO defends us against criminal activities (whether those activities are undertaken by the “crooks” OR by out-of-control police/governmental suthorities?

    • EltonJ

      Build Zion. That’s the only solution I can see. Turn the United States into a society of the Pure in Heart. Where there is no poor among us, that people give their property to others by their own free choice (this is called the Law of Consecration, Jeremy) rather than by force of the Government.

      We need such a society, and it begins with one person.

    • DaveH

      Libertarians believe that human beings have a natural (or God-given) right to control their own bodies and legally acquired property, as long as they don’t trespass on the bodies and property of others. And I don’t mean mentally, as everything anybody does causes mental distress to one person or the other.

      • karolyn

        No one causes mental distress to another. Our response to another’s actions is OUR responsibility. We are the cause of our own mental distress via our processing of events outside of our control.

      • Carlucci

        Good point. It is how we react to people, actions, and events. And healthy adrenal glands keep us calm and rational.

      • Kate8

        Cool. I want to be there to observe your calm when your front door gets kicked in.

      • Kate8

        Seriously, that sounds good, but much stress takes place on an unconscious level, and often we aren’t even aware that we’re stressed until we reach a certain point.

        While what you say may be technically true, it doesn’t mean that we can live under oppressive conditions stress-free. It is coming that we won’t even KNOW what misstep can get get us arrested, especially when our every move is being watched…

        We have internal mechanisms that respond to our environment, independent of our conscious mind. While there are mystics and such who’ve learned to master this to a great extent, they usually live apart from the crowd, and are the exception.

      • PatHenry52

        The solution is – stand strong, do what we have to do and start saying NO and NO THANKS… NO to what common sense says is bull, and NO THANKS to promises of hand-outs, even if it’s a little harder…. Start asking “How so?” and make them say it… get a copy of “rules for radicals” and turn it around on them…. expose the b.s…. the sun is a mighty disinfectant…. I like “How so?”.. statists stumble all over themselves when you won’t accept their premises and they have to justify it.

      • DaveH

        Sure, Karolyn, look at it any way you want. Bottom line — my point was that the concept of trespassing on the bodies or property of others needs to be only in a physical sense, or there would be no end to Government excuses to mess with other people.

  • TIME

    Bob,

    Thanks for the really great Blog with INTEL that all Americans should understand as its in such a clear easy to follow format.
    Saddly as many Americans seek the “Safty – Security – SEX” format that they have been sold on by Government for the last 100 plus years.
    The ones who can’t grasp that Freedom requires “SELF” responsibility ~ rather than State Mandated have plunged us all in to the Abyss of HELL.
    As When its “STATE MANDATED FREEDOM” thats really nothing less than Slavery to the state.

    As our freedoms are stripped away yearly, while the populace shouts for more chains we were sure to have the end game being a “Police State” there realy was no other way it could end.
    This opens the door to the loss of the 2nd Amendment, as well the First.

    The 2012 elections may well be a really good show for the simple minded before we have that single head of state who will never change.
    Hey we already have the never ending war – wow ~ how odd we have that part and no one has said a word about it other than the standard mindless dribble RebO v DemO rhetoric.

    We have been Mandated to buy what ever the Government tells you to, Then add in the POLICE State format along with all the other little things that aid in the making of a slave state, its truly the End Game.
    Thus now its just a matter of pulling all the loose strings tightly around the necks of the NEW SLAVES who just can’t grasp what they have become yet.

    As we enter this stage for the last act of 1984 with its last few disconnects from what was the only true country where Personal FREEDOM has ever been over the last 5000 years of Human history.
    I ask How Sad is that?
    As we desend into a state where all persons not within the small group of elite wealth who control the every move of the vast pool of SLAVES of the state, the slaves still will demand that they be controled even more and smile about it.
    Afterall its the lesser of TWO EVILS, Right?

    Its really very much like the chickens on a farm they took the FREE FOOD only to find out Col Sanders had other plans for them then thier sitting about eating food all day while getting fat and lazy.
    Man did the Chickens pay for the Free Food and house, now we are the Chicken’s and we will pay just as the chickens do.

    • DaveH

      And as Big Government causes our economic decline, they skillfully pull the wool over many citizens’ eyes while offering more Government as the solution to the problems they have created.
      Want Individual Liberty? Personal Responsibility? Free Markets, where people voluntarily decide what to buy and what to produce free of Politicians favoritism? Limited Government? Peace, the kind that comes less Government pillaging of our money, thus happier people?
      There is only one Political Party that advocates those things:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      Quit wasting your votes on Democrats and Republicans. The Leaders from both (with the exception of a handful) are just feathering their own nests at the citizens’ expense. They are making fools out of the rest of us.

      • Don

        Vote Sara Palin for 2012, if you want to fight against big Government !!!!

      • Carlucci

        Sorry to burst your bubble, Don. Sara Palin is a big fat RINO.

      • DaveH

        Hardly, Don. Sarah helped get the RINO John McCain re-elected in my state. She really doesn’t understand what real Freedom is.
        Most people think Freedom means when things are done their way.

    • Kate8

      TIME – I’m beginning to see that American freedom, at least in the past century, has been an illusion. We haven’t understood freedom for a very long time.

      I’ve been listening to people who’ve moved to some S. American countries, and they describe a libertarian lifestyle that we have not known in this lifetime. One can do whatever one wishes, with being hindered by mind-boggling rules and regulations.

      There’s a reason that Americans and Europeans are fleeing there by the millions. And they SCREEN those desiring to immigrate, much as America once did.

      What is even more foreboding is that it is becoming more difficult to emigrate from America, due to our own government wanting to stop us from leaving. What’s that song about history repeating?

      • Kate8

        Should have read “…without being hindered…”

      • Cawmun Cents

        Yes….but what happens when there is a regime change in the place you go to,and your freedoms are no longer guaranteed?Do you then move to the next country of choice?If you expatirate to be able to express freedom,and then it is suddenly taken from you in a land you have no connection to,what good was that freedom to you?If you then move to the next place,and it happens again,what have you gained?Just a little time to excersize the”he who wins with the most toys”way of life?No.That is not the way for those of us who love freedom.Situational freedom is never long-lasting.It is always easily taken from those who will not fight for it.-CC.

      • 45caliber

        Kate8:

        One BIG reason that many businesses, etc are leaving is due to government regulations. It costs too much to meet all of them and other countries don’t have them. It is not the cheaper labor since the cheaper labor means a lot fewer knowledgeable people to hire. The companies have to put up with marginal workers while trying to educate and train more.

        A good example lately is Boeing. They wanted to build a plant in SC. The unions in Washington sued and a federal judge ruled they had to build the plant in Washington. There is a very good chance it will now be built in another country instead.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Canada wants them there.

      • JC

        I doubt Boeing would move operations to Canada.
        The tax regime there is comparable to the US.

      • Kate8

        45 – Yes, but I was speaking of just regular folks. They are saying that they have peace in their lives that they never knew in America.

        The go to Ecuador, Brazil, Peru or Uraguay, and buy a large piece of land at a good price. They live off the grid, grow their own food, and live, unharrassed, by the gov’t.

        I realize that the NWO is set to control ALL nations, but some have a few more years before tyranny sets in. All I’m saying is that, in America, we’ve believed that we’ve had freedom when we’ve been, in fact, more conrolled than many other countries.

      • Christin

        Kate8,

        Yes, you are right… we have been living without freedom for a long time. That is sad to acknowledge.

        There are so many LAWS, rules, Regulations, one can really not fathom what is left to be had without paying for it, filing for it, or not getting it at all let alone getting a lesser amount than one wanted becuase of CONGRESSIONAL LAWS.

        Do you know there are rules in my state that says you have to have ten acres to have a water well and you have to have ten acres to hunt on your land…
        I’m sure everyone is breaking one of these lousy laws made by state and national gov all the time, because there are too many to know them… even lawyers have to study the laws for years and research them to find precidence.

        It was better when we followed The Ten Commandments and the Constitution & Amendments. Everyone use to learn those.

      • TIME

        Kate,
        Forgive me we have had a long day so I am just now getting a few moments.

        Yes, saddly we only think we are free the TRUTH is we lost a lot after JFK was shot, most folks just can’t fathom that.
        What took place when the Patriot Act was signed was a real heavy nail, but the HCR bill opens the door to Pandora’s Darkest Box yet. Most can’t see that due to thinking its something else that the RICH will pay for.

        Saddly the fact is when your Government can Mandate what you MUST buy, thats when we lost what was left of the Bill of Rights.

        In the 1970′s under Tricky Dick with his DEA, then under Regan we gave away a lot of our rights with the guise of keeping us safe from Drug dealers. So your bank reported any cash deals over $10K, Now that number is down to $3500.00 in cash taken from your OWN bank account your’e reported to the DEA. How crazy is that?

        But the HCR bill is really the wide open door, to force you to buy what the Governmet tells you you can.
        Thus freedom was lost a long time ago we just had STUFF that held the blinders on.

        Now as the STUFF starts to dry up, jobs are all long gone under Bush 1 and Clinton’s time in office, now anything left is being mopped up and shut down under Barry.

        So whats left the fist amendment whats left of it our Framers would not even grasp it anylonger.
        The second is under attack daily, this SC Ruling is a home run on starting the undertaking of creating a new class of criminal, YOU, and or anyone who owns a gun.
        Once thats done its all just a matter of time before the FEMA camps are opened and the weeding out begins.

        Anyone who thought that the Nazi’s were bad, well I am telling you now that will look like a sunny day in May with flowers growing in a big field.
        Oh the reason why the flowers will be growing so well will be the millions of bodys rotting under them.

        People I beg you to wake up others, we can still stop this and reverse it all, but its going to be a long hard road.
        2012 will just be the very start.

      • Bleh

        I agree Kate8. The “Land of the Free” really is not as free as many think.

  • Thor

    Bob, I find little to refute in your comments and observations. In spirit, I think you are right on time. But, as a retired deputy sheriff, I would like to see a solution from you once in a while. Warrant-less searches based on ‘plain sight probable cause’ have been in practice for over a century and this is no more than an affirmation of that–not really new. Just how do you propose that law enforcement should handle a situation in which a cop walks by a car window and sees a bail of illegal marijuana sitting in plain sight on the seat? Does a quarter inch of glass make it off limits? Cops (most of whom are good, well-meaning and honest)–the people you accuse of being the minions of a police state–are fast becoming victims caught in the middle between a government run by fascist progressives and libertarians screaming about their rights being violated. As someone who has been in courts from summary to criminal several thousand times and having seen perfectly good and legitimately obtained evidence thrown out on technicalities and guilty folk walk free–I find that difficult to reconcile with your purported police state. Certainly, we are never far away from it at any time and never have been…except that we are a well-armed people who will not tolerate it and so far, because of it, our government has remained a polite one. It is only prudent to be vigilant, but I think this kind of pugilistic, Red Herring banter is counter productive. It is not the SWAT teams and street cops you have to be concerned about. They will not be the enforcers in a police state. Studies show that local cops would be totally ineffective for that purpose because they would not ‘fire’ on people they know. The military, used domestically, is more effective and foreign troops via NATO and the UN are considered the most probable and effective means of enforcing the kind of police state you envision. If you want to do a story about that, do some investigation on the troops returning from Afghanistan that are being trained–for the first time in history–for domestic deployment.

    • PatHenry52

      Unless someone is being force fed or whacked over the head with the bail of marijuana, you keep walking and let them do as they wish until they ask something from you to do it….

      As a libertarian, I will continue to scream about my rights, and the rights of idiot pot-heads, even if I am not one of them…. I also recognize that neo-nazis can espouse their b.s. on the streets though I find them repulsive…

      Thank you for your service, you sound like one of the good “cops”… but I’d still ask for the warrant, nothing personal.

      • Hicusdicus

        Pot is not a substance worthy of arrest or confinement it is a legal excuse to confiscate, fine and incarcerate . Next the smell of tobacco in a smoke free zone will be the excuse to round people up and sniff them. Particularly if the offensive Oder is coming from the ladies rest room.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Hicusdicus__read it and weep, link below!__welcome to the long arm of the Obama Dictatorship. Where by, a we can buy a legal Substance cigarettes, only to have it be illegal now in NYC, with fines imposed NOW on beaches & in public places. Next will be banned in cars with passangers in them!

        http://abcnews.go.com/Health/nyc-smoking-ban-parks-beaches-effect/story?id=13662194

      • JC

        And you have to wonder who’s next on the Nazi hit list?
        I mean after they get all the smokers of a legal product under control. Who will it be? Fat people? Retarded people? People in wheel chairs? the Jews? Who’s next on the unnacceptable list?

        This criminalization of smokers is just another propoganda / smear campaign to subjugate yet another portion of society.

      • Bleh

        JC says:
        May 23, 2011 at 9:02 pm
        And you have to wonder who’s next on the Nazi hit list?
        I mean after they get all the smokers of a legal product under control. Who will it be? Fat people?
        Yes. They have already been working on the fat people.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree. Ive never seen someone smoke pot, and beat their wife, beat their kids, cheat on their wife. Or steal from their friends, or miss work because they couldnt get up in the morning. Ive never seen anyone smoke pot, then start fist fighting their best friend. But I have seen all these things happen with people who drink too much alcohol, and Ive seen it over and over again. And yet you can buy it anywhere. Can anyone tell me what is the matter with this picture? I mean alcohol has caused more death and crime, than cocaine, heroine, meth, speed and marijuana combined, and yet, again, you can buy it anywhere. Hello? Anybody home? What are the authorities thinking? Besides getting rich on having it illegal. Thats all it amounts to.

    • Raggs

      Thor… I believe you are correct however the concern that this is a beginning to a much more intrusive violation of our rights is easy to see.. We now have a very liberal leftist supreme court that favors a communist agenda.

    • DaveH

      We’re not talking about a “bail of illegal marijuana sitting in plain sight on the seat”, Thor. We’re talking about smelling marijuana and making judgement calls about where the odor is coming from. We’re talking about people sitting in their own homes, minding their own business, until some bully thugs burst into their homes, endangering everybodies’ life, because they are mistreating their own bodies (victimless crimes).
      We fought in a World War to supposedly stop thuggery like that.
      I have never done drugs in my life, but I would side with the druggies over the bully police any day. There is no doubt in my mind who the aggressors are in those situations.
      Folks, see my previous comments for links to articles about our current police state, and to see a raid map of raids gone wrong around our country.

      • Hicusdicus

        Most people on drugs are not a menace to society and certainly don’t deserve to die over it. Every one on medicare is taking some kind of drug and all drugs affect the mind and body in some way. I guess if law enforcement smells a gaseous fecal Oder there should be an immediate roundup to see if someone is polluting the air illegally with unauthorized laxatives.

      • Thor

        Never said there were not mistakes, acts of stupidity and shoddy police work at the local level–and, about that, I agree. The point was to distinguish between these less than acceptable acts–which are very widely dispersed, by the way, but make fascinating news copy–the the genuine indicators of a police state. It is when the local authorities are no longer willing to do the state’s bidding that you have to worry.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Thor,

      You say: “It is not the SWAT teams and street cops you have to be concerned about. They will not be the enforcers in a police state. Studies show that local cops would be totally ineffective for that purpose because they would not ‘fire’ on people they know.” Tell that to the family of Jose Guerena, the Marine veteran who was shot last week in his home by a SWAT team that fired 71 rounds. Initial reports were that he fired at officers first, but the story was changed after his gun was found with the safety on. Police say he was waiting on officers to enter so he could shoot them and was yelling that he had something for them. Does it make sense that a Marine vet who had served in Iraq would have his safety on if he intended to fire at officers?
      Tell it to Maryanne Godboldo, who had SWAT officers kick in her door and steal her child. Sorry, your argument doesn’t hold water.

      You ask: “Just how do you propose that law enforcement should handle a situation in which a cop walks by a car window and sees a bail of illegal marijuana sitting in plain sight on the seat? Does a quarter inch of glass make it off limits?” Your question is a non sequitur. The discussion is about officers entering homes without a warrant.

      You write: “The military, used domestically, is more effective…” Many of today’s police officers are former/current military and all receive military-type training.

      You write: “Cops (most of whom are good, well-meaning and honest)–the people you accuse of being the minions of a police state–are fast becoming victims caught in the middle between a government run by fascist progressives and libertarians screaming about their rights being violated.” It has not been my experience and that of some of my staff that most cops are good, well-meaning and honest. They are not victims, they are the enforcers. When our elected elites and the officer’s superiors don’t recognize the Constitution, what makes you think the officers will?

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Cathy

        Bob, I couldn’t have said it better.

        What about the various incidents of cops initiating a drug bust by breaking down doors and shooting and killing the family pet(s) because they barked at the intruders? And then they find less than an ounce of marijuana. THAT’S what really upsets me.

        I worked for the police department in Las Vegas for seven years. These guys loved to party. It seemed like every week there was another celebration for a promotion or retirement. They would get stinking drunk and get in their cars and drive. I found it hypocritical that they would bust some guy for having or smoking a joint in public.

        I’m so glad I no longer work for them…many police officers really think they are above the law.

      • DaveH

        My neighbors both worked for the police department. The policeman brought home switchblades, fireworks, and other items that were confiscated from other people. But they rationalized that it was okay because the laws were meant for “stupid people” and they weren’t stupid.

      • Kate8

        DaveH – Years ago, we had a friend who was also a police officer. He told us much the same thing, but also included marijuana (and probably other drugs, as well) that the cops took home for their own use. Maybe even to make a little extra on the side.

        Cops are like everyone else. Some are more ethical than others.

        These days there aren’t many ethical people in any walk of life.

      • PatHenry52

        So they were Liberals? That’s the philosophy exactly… the story here I guess would be the honesty to admit it!

      • 45caliber

        There was a case in California a few years ago that I thought bad. One of the beach-front cities wanted a lot of beach property owned by some millionare – but they wouldn’t pay for it. He refused to give it to them since it was worth many millions. They started out by calling him day and night telling him that it was worth giving because it would help so many people to have more beach. Then they started stopping his car every where they saw it for some infraction and the cop telling him he should give the land even as he wrote out the ticket. Finally they raided his house supposedly due to a report he used drugs although they refused to tell who gave them the info. The cops broke in and when he came to see what was going on WITHOUT a gun they shot and killed him. The cops said they thought he was armed.

        At the funeral, on the way back from the graveyard, the family limo was stopped by the cops and the family were then told that a gift of the land to the city would be a good memorial for him. His daughter called in the news media and told them. The city dropped the harrassment.

      • Richard Pawley

        Dear Bob,
        This is off the topic a bit but I don’t know how to contact you otherwise. There is a big difference between the so-called minimum daily requirement of any particular vitamin and what research has shown is the healthiest amount. You answered a person who asked about vitamin B-12 and while I have long ago forgotten what the UN or the FDA says is how much we should take I have been taking 200 mcg. for several years in my all natural multi-vitamin and mineral supplement. Vitamin C and D-3 are two others where the minimum daily amount is wholly inadequate. I was taking 5,400 IU of D-3 daily in the winter and 1 gram of Vitamin C but still got the flu so I doubled it for the rest of the season. Only had the flu for four days whereas most get it for two weeks, first time in a decade, and I have not had a flu shot since the Bay of Pigs. I also take three tiny chlorella tablets a day and astaxanthin, and a capsule of New Zealand Green Lipped Mussel. Look into them and I think you will be amazed at what they can do for you. Keep up the good work and remember that with God all things are possible.

        Sincerely,
        Richard

  • Raggs

    The brown shirts are coming, the brown shirts are coming!!!!
    I guess that the government must find a use for the FEMA camps…

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      And they will tell all that the strong smell of formaldehyde will preserve them for a much longer life…and folks will fight to get place in line.

      Showers, anyone?

  • Cashpockets

    This is very distressing and hard to believe that it could pass with an 8-1 vote.
    We live in most uncertain times for this country.
    Our Government has become corrupt and is no longer representing “The People” but instead is serving the wants and selfish desires of corrupt politicians.
    At this time I see nothing that will turn it around.
    We seem to be headed into a second or third world type of country,
    soon to be known as the “Late Great United States of America.”

    Only “The People” could possibly change our heading and it seems that no matter what happens, if they do wake up, it is only for a moment, then right back to being led and fooled again.
    There are basically three major things that are wrong with this country and they are Greed, Gullibility and Stupidity.

  • Doc Sarvis

    The conservative courts strike again.

    • PatHenry52

      It’s not a question of left vs. right, liberal vs. conservative, as Reagan oftenn said, it’s a question of up or down.

      What is a “conservative” court? How “conservative” is shredding the constitution?
      What does it matter who appointed someone, the person is either right or wrong and in this case, 1 of 9 was right, the rest were wrong. I would give them credit for getting citizens united right (yes, people can state their opinions, even if they do so under the banner of a corporation) and DC v. Heller mostly right (no, actually the 2nd Amendment -does- invalidate all firearm restrictions currently in place, like it or not.), but that is kind of, like, their job.

      The SCOTUS needs to remember that their job is not to be elitist lawyers, but to apply the constitution as intended… so far, they’ve done a mediocre job overall… I believe it’s because they forgot that the constitution was written for everyone to understand, so the easiest, most obvious answer, actually IS the right one….

      • 45caliber

        The problem is that the easiest answer isn’t the one that they want…

      • PatHenry52

        That is always the sticking point it seems….

        Citizens, with guns!! Oh my, they.. might,…resist our tyrannical acts… can’t have that! :)

        Seriously tho, my carry piece is 9mm, but I like the pseudonym none the less …

      • jibbs

        .45, because they don’t make a .46.

      • PatHenry52

        I’m all over the place with a 45.. I’d rather be sure I hit the target, even if I need to put 2 or 3 in ‘em (a lot easier I would think with a 9mm hole in them to slow them down) and know I can hit them than miss with the bigger cartridge…. More power to ya though if that’s your style – that’s why they make several different kinds!

      • 45caliber

        I like the .45. I was taught to shoot one handed by an old western gunfighter. He said the real problem with today’s shooting was that they wanted to fire the gun solely by pulling the trigger and then fight the recoil. He taught me to lock my wrist and shoulder and let it bounce at the elbow. When my elbow is straight again, I’m back on target. I can shoot it as fast as any other gun (I really like the .22-33%) and the cartridge will take down a man 98.6% of the time vs. about 70% of the time for the 9 mm. (And for you .44 mag people, it is 98.5% of the time.)

      • Cawmun Cents

        I prefer the.22.It tumbles.Doesnt always exit the body(little chance of accidentally shooting someone you didnt intend to).You have a situation where there is little recoil(quarter sized groups at fifty feet).Ammunition is cheap(and plentiful).If you are accurate, it is as deadly as any other munition(if you are accurate,you dont need size).The tumbling creates a situation where you can shoot someone in the big toe,and it may come out of their eyeball(making it amongst the deadliest munitions).Not much for armor penetration,but if a shot is placed correctly,then armor is not very effective.But for short range fighting and urban warfare,I will take the shotgun over any pistol munition.A 3 1/2 inch mag.12 gauge holds 18 .30 cal pellets and they all come out simultaneously.That is devastating at close range.

      • DaveH

        The only way this is going to change is for the citizens to throw off the shackles of their Government school brainwashing and learn about the kind of Freedom that our Founders advocated.
        Don’t think you’ve been brainwashed, Folks? Just read the book “Lincoln Unmasked” by Thomas DiLorenzo. You will discover why the phrase “Honest Abe” is an oxymoron. He was a typical politician, but worse than most. We’ve been duped.
        Why would thay do that to us? Simple. In the Leaders quest for power and perks there is no finer institution than a centralized government. And Lincoln subverted the Constitution to accomplish that. With a collection of mostly autonomous State Republics, as our country was originally intended to be, people can easily vote with their feet when their home state passes undesirable laws. And we would have the “Fishbowl Effect” where people in one state could see the failure of sweet-sounding laws in another state, and not repeat the same mistakes.
        Surely you’ve noticed how zealotous groups will first try to get their pet laws passed on the Federal level. That way we are deprived of easily voting with our feet, and deprived of learning by experience. That is also why many (probably most) of our politicians are advocating One-World-Government. More power for them, less ability for the rest of us to resist their enslavement.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Good point,

        But you know that so many enamored of Big Government are not looking for truth, but a twist that allows them their way at the expense of good honest citizens.

        That is the reason why when I was growing up Civics classes said we were a Democracy, not a Republic. Get the kids when they were young, and it is near impossible now to unwarp them!

    • DaveH

      Wow,
      Doc does still have an ounce of Freedom sense left. Note though, Doc, that the ruling was 8-1. They aren’t all right-wingers.

      • ValDM

        Also, note that Justice Ginsburg (the lone dissenter) is hardly the poster child of conservatism.

    • JC

      Doc Sarvis says:
      May 23, 2011 at 7:50 am
      The conservative courts strike again.
      ____________________________________________________

      Mr. Pointless Pinko babbles again…

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Where as the liberal courts would have them break into my house, take my stuff, and give it to the bonehead that doesnt want to work for it. Oh wait, thats the democratic party that already does that, and keeps enlarging their take. Yeah, its kind of like that Doc.

  • 45caliber

    We had a problem in this area a few years ago that this now allows. Several police would get a clerk to forge search warrants when they were mad at someone, many times a minority person. They would then use the warrants to go into the person’s house and tear it up as “punishment” for those who angered them. A judge happened to find a warrant he had “signed” while he was on vacation and did some investigation. About six cops and a couple of clerks were fired over it. And all were fined. (Personally, I think they should have had a stiffer sentence.)

    But with this new ruling, the cops no longer have to get a warrant. If they get mad at someone all they have to do is insist they smelled something funny or heard something funny and they can do what they want. And if the homeowner objects, too bad.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      45, this happened to a family friend who used to live near us, when he and his wife divorced. The wife apparently was seeing one of the local cops, and this friend had to leave the area, as this “cop” and his ex, did everything they could to harass this guy.

      • 45caliber

        Yeah, I’ve heard of several cases like that. Unfortunately.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        45, quite frankly, this friend was no angel either, he liked his booze, but he wasn’t violent. But his ex’s boyfriend cop, made his life absolutely miserable. He was thrown in and out of jail, harrassed on the road, it was nutz and I couldn’t believe it was tolerated!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        45, sorry, I hit submit before I finished, but after all of that, who is gonna stop them?

      • karolyn

        Cops are people too, with all their faults and egos. Working in the domestic violence sector, I hear stories of cops judging women for domestic violence and sexual assault all the time. They SHOULD be held to a higher standard. Actually, the should hold THEMSELVES to a higher standard. Unfortunately, there are bad apples, but that holds true anywhere.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        K, My question is, who’s gonna stop them?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Im not for police acting out unfairly against someone because they so called dont like them, but there are cases where I see why, but it usually backfires on them. Like for instance, everyone knows the Rodney King incident. They had arrested this guy numerous times before, and he would laugh at them and tell them he would be out before they went home for supper, and pretty much, he was right. That day they beat him, they were tired of it, and over stepped their bounds and beat the tar out of him. Unfortunately for them, someone was filming it, and Rodney got rewarded for his bad behavior. And since then, he has be arrested numerous times and been shot, and nothing changed. Were the cops wrong for beating him, yes, yes they were. But they all were fired, lost their jobs, and yet old Rodney just keeps on keeping on. So I can understand their anger at some guys, as they bring it on themselves. And then the evidence sorts it out.

  • Brian

    If you are not outraged by this blatant violation of your rights, then you are NOT PAYING ATTENTION! Wake up before it is too late!

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    “All around the world…People are…clamoring for a form of democracy”

    In America, our founders rejected that evil form of government and mandated a republic in Article 4, Section 4.

    • EltonJ

      “A Republic, if you can keep it!”

      – Benjamin Franklin.

      • babybikerbabe

        “We have given you a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, if you can keep it” is what Franklin said.

      • Cawmun Cents

        “We havent kept it(Constitutional Republic)too well”.-CC.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      Yup. But the liberals are all for Democracy. Just the one where we are all equal, but some are more equal than others!

      • PatHenry52

        I call it “Special Equality”… because it really means, super rich elitists (ever notice the most pro-gun-control, pro-tax (never -their- tax, of course see Kerry, John – RI Yacht) elitists are the super wealthly, many doing exactly what they’re now against, to get there?…. yeah, Special Equality is exactly what they’re all about.. “We’re special, and you’re equal to every other little person…”

        We have an aritocracy just like England, except for the titles and openness about the reality of the situation… and it’s both R’s and D’s.. they always agree on the true bi-partisan issue – “politicians can do what they want, not what they say and you don’t get to join the club (or are dumb enough to believe they’ll let you in cuz you do their bidding) and laws are for the folks, not the law makers, they can do what they want.”

  • JH

    “I’ve seen the enemy and he is us.”

    I think this is a quote from Pogo. Either way it is apt.

    • 45caliber

      Ah! Someone else with a fondness for Pogo.

      • independant thinker

        I miss Pogo.

      • Carlucci

        I miss Pogo, too.

      • Richard Pawley

        Ditto.

    • babybikerbabe

      I believe you’ll find that statement to be a paraphrase from Winston Churchill.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      Yup, it was from Pogo. Walt Kelly saw things very clearly, and if more people read Pogo than crime and superhero comics, we’d be a lot better off.

      When the twig is bent, the whole tree grows crooked! Check your local woods if you do not believe me!

      • 45caliber

        Lewis

        Pogo was one of the original political cartoon series – except most people didn’t realize it since he mixed in a lot of good humor as well. It’s too bad it’s gone.

  • DC

    It is clear we have a problem in the US. We have condoms, and gay rights amoung other things in the classroom. But Jesus Christ is outlawed. God has been removed from the courthouse as well. Many judges have been forced to remove the Ten Commandments from their coutroom because it offended some left wing group. Whether you are Christian or atheist you don’t have to be a genius to see that we are in trouble.

    Schools in the Middle East they teach their young men to fire machine guns, while we teach our young that guns are evil. I fear there is a fight for our way of life coming in the not too distant future.

    • 45caliber

      DC:

      Actually, they had to remove the Ten Commandments from courthouses because it created a hostile climate for lawyers. After all, how many lawyers do you know that could work around rules that stated things like, “Thou shalt no steal” and “Thou shalt not commit adultry”?

      • Kate8

        45 – Those points were too good to let pass without comment.

        While I’m tempted to laugh, it’s too tragic to be funny.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You got that right brother. When a guy can represent some scum that he knows is guilty, then sit there and spew lies and twist the truth to try to persuade a jury, well to me, its just plain evil man. Its pure evil. Its lying, cheating, stealing, envy, murder and the whole ball of wax. I honestly dont know, how some of these guys can go to sleep at night. I really dont. Its sick.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Dc, When they took God out of the class room, they moved in the police & Metal Detectors. We’ve only ourselves to blame for not being Vigilant & standing up for what is right. It’s going to be damned hard to reverse.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I agree 100% Angel. Our parents, Grandparents, and we ourselvs, have sat back many times allowing these politicians to divide us from each other.
        I dont expect anyone to ever 100% agree. problem at times is when someone like Jeremy Leochner says: May 23, 2011 at 2:43 am “I believe there are certain situations where perhaps an officer must act without a warrant and yet still be considered justified. Though I would say trying to specify those situations could create more problems than it solves.” <- Here we have a Liberal "on the fence"..trying to make sence of what he reads-it obviously doesnt sit well with him…THIS is the time when we need to create allies..sure we dont agree with many of his other beliefs, BUT the "journey of a Thousand miles begins with ONE step" and this is where we NEED NOT attack eack other.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        BL, each of us have our own protections, but the problem is when an intruder breaks into our homes, and they get shot or injured, “the intruder” suddenly becomes the “victim” and the law takes their friggin side, aganst us, the homeowner.
        There is no right an wrong anymore, the lawmakers are making up they’re own rules, the constitution has/is become null and void. The old perverbial, the one who dies with the most toys wins is rearing its ugly head.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        :) You missed my point..I agree 100% with You. My point was when someone Like Jeremy “wakes up a little” we should use that moment to help his eyes open a little and gain support on an issue. America is too divided, and the more support we can gain, the better.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        First thing that needs done is to dismantle the Anti Christ Lawyers Union (A.C.L.U.)

  • Tom SC

    Lock&Load friends and neighbors Lock&Load. Before it’s to late!!

    • 45caliber

      When we start hearing of people killed while fighting off cops at their homes, we’ll have to make a point of understanding whether they were actually criminals or not – and not take the MSM’s word that they were criminals.

      • Christin

        That’s what I was thinking, 45.

        I can hear the ‘news reporting’ on tv saying now that there was a home shoot out and the reporter says the police… have been watching this guy for some time, he lost his job and just went crazy hitting his wife and screaming at his kids before he killed them all… and the police kicked in the door, but it was too late…

        Could be all lies to cover up police brutality in the Police State… we should all not rush to judgment when if comes to that.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree .45. I myself am sick of the way lawyers have prostituted the law, and criminals walk free constantly. I really dont care if people agree with me or not, because I live in a black and white world, where it is wrong or right, left or right, good or evil. When the cops know, I mean absolutely know, a criminal is in a house, and the know he has a cache of drugs, weapons, prostitutes, bombs, stolen property, I dont care what it is, I say they go in and get it. This crap of, “oh, we first need to go to a judge and get a warrant, and you know, give the guy time to leave” is a bunch of baloney. Yet you go in and get him, the courts throw it out, because they protect the guilty. They have for years. Just like these perverts that stalk women. For so long, the law said “Well he hasnt done nothing, so we cant do anything”, and they would wait for him to kill her, then they would act. Sorry, thats not good enough. Some would say “well how would I like them to haul me out of my house and arrest me”, I would have to say fine, present the evidence that Ive done something, which they cant do. But when they drag old Homer out, and he has 40 pounds of cocaine in his house, hey, if that aint guilty, then their aint no one guilty. Know what Im saying here? What the heck happened to a little common sense prevailing. But no, a guy is caught dirty as hell, with all the goods, and he walks because there was no warrant, or someone didnt read him his rights. Give me a break. Stinking lawyers have prostituted to law, and they benefit richly from these rich scumbags paying them off. It needs to stop.

      • Bleh

        I disagree. The 4th was not written for select people. It was written for everyone, no exceptions.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      But I am on SS, and cannot even afford to buy a cartridge any more. None on the shelves anyhow! Lock and load sounds great, but who can afford it any more??

      • JeffH

        LM, I too am living on SS, and I live in (K)alifornia. The cost of ammo is going up across the country but I have spent a lot of time finding the best “bang for my buck”. California is an anti-gun state and they’re doing everything in their power to make it tough to buy ammo of any kind. I’m well stocked for the range, the field and the final assault on our freedom.

      • JC

        Shhhhh. ;)

      • PatHenry52

        Just make sure you have enough to make a respectable stand… you’ll likely not end up using too much either way, 0 if you give in, and only as many as you can get off before they overwhelm you…. granted, I won’t take option 1, so I would hope to at least make them reconsider the next oppression due to the heavy price to suppress me….

      • Cawmun Cents

        Even though I do not advocate violence in any way,it may become necessary to militia up with your neighbors.The word crossfire comes to mind.Just a passing fancy.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        a hollow tube, with little beads with a metal rod in them, dipped in your favorite poison, will stop them quicker than a .45

  • Santi

    Truely this is a time to pray. We will have to suffer at the hands of the oppressors, but GOD said not to fear for he will be at our side until the end. Pray and have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Kate8

      Santi – God also said that, for a time, evil would be allowed to prevail over the Saints.

  • James R. Maxwell

    Any one who attempt to enter my home unless invited in or with a properly documentd warrant will have to suffer the consequences. As an American Veteran I put my life on the line to protect the Constution of the United States of America. I strongly support my
    police and the officers who serve our community. Tactics by corrupt
    politicians, judges and selfserving individuals will not be tollerated. Our nation is under attack by the Liberals and Radicals nor only on American shores but from around the world. We, as Americans citizens, have the right to protect our homes and family form invasion and tyrants. This is but one more exampe of why Obams is not qualified to be president of the U.S.A. He was raised in Muslim countries which hate Americans, Christians and Women. No matter how loud he wails he is a Christian he was raised a Muslim and that was all of the training and education he had till he suddendly appered upon American shores and wiggle his way into college.

    • PatHenry52

      It doesn’t matter what faith Obama has, it’s his actions that are bogus… I don’t really care what he thinks on anything, actually, I care only about what he does that violates the limits of his office… and there are far too many such actions for me to not consider myself among the opposition.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Actually it matters very much.

    • Rich

      To James, for the most part I agree except Obama did not sign the policy nor did he state this policy. Indiana is a Republican state and the US Supreme Court as a Republican majority.

      • ValDM

        It may be a republican majority, but it certainly ISN’T a conservative majority. Get your terms straight.

      • Kate8

        Seems like the majority of Republican politicians have come around to more Leftist thinking these days.

        It probably is a healthier choice for them, when they consider the alternative in the way the winds are blowing.

        I live in what has always been a conservative county in CA. Yet, everything being done here these days is socialist intrusion, and not one of them (to my knowlege) is standing up for his alleged principles.

        It’s only a very short time until we will see conservatism criminalized. It already is in every way that counts.

      • newspooner

        While any one of four current Justices (Thomas, Alito, Scalia, Roberts) could easily be considered the best Supreme Court Justice in DECADES, not one of them is a 100% constitutionalist. They only were confirmed because they are not big threats to the out-of-control, unconstitutional federal agencies (Dept. of Energy, Dept. of Education, TSA, etc.). If any one of them was really as good as a Supreme Court Justice should be, they would have advanced many of the large number of cases that could readily result in the abolition of these unconstitutional federal monstrosities. If Ron Paul could be elected President, you would see the correct type of people appointed to the Supreme Court.

  • richard

    everyone should be armed.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      I saw a good cartoon some time ago. Reporter interviewing a man in a village, carrying a big piece of pipe. All around were big guys carrying clubs, maces, knives, bludgeons, 2×4′s with nails through them, and the reporter asks the guy, “Aren’t you afraid to live here?” Guy replies, “Nope. With all these folks around, anybody would be foolish to start something”

      Here, with the anti-armers folks taking weapons, it is no longer foolish to start something, and the government is will positioned to do just so!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I dont really know of anywhere yet where they are taking peoples weapons away, do you Lewis? I mean if its happening, its a travesty, and its against the constitution. But I havenet heard or read anything stating that any state was taking guns from their citizens. If there are, let me know. Ill stay out of that state.

  • richard

    got to be willing to fight, die for something. may as well be freedom.

    • 45caliber

      Hemingway, the author and mercenary, was once asked by a reporter why he had spent 30 years or more fighting for various countries around the world. Didn’t he realize he could have been killed?

      He replied: “There are worse things than dying while fighting for freedom. And if you don’t fight for it, you’ll learn what every one of those things is.”

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Good thought.

  • Sbrdude1

    I hope for the sake of law enforcement they don’t try to enforce this because it will mean many will die of led poisoning. As many have stated before me stock on guns, ammo, food, first aid, and fuel because we will be needing it soon!!! This is very disheartening and makes me worried for the safety of my family and myself. We are now in a police state…

    • 45caliber

      They are also putting up cameras all around cities – to “identify criminals”. Houston had put up some to catch people running stop lights. The people voted it down again. Houston complained of losing 10 million a year in profits. Instead of taking the cameras down as the new law directed, they decided to put up 300 more – to “identify criminals”. Wait until they decide to put one in your home…

      • PatHenry52

        This is already being done in England… cameras actually in peoples houses….

        I’ll die on my feet before I live on my knees.

      • Cawmun Cents

        You have a cell phone?A computer with a camera no doubt?A high definition television?You may already be being monitored.It is allright,biological unit,you have nothing to fear but fear itself.A progressive once told you that and you cheered,and said,”yippee!”Now that your assimilation into the world collective capitalist society is complete,you may relax and play with your toys.

      • PatHenry52

        So long as I have reasonable means of effectual resistance, monitor however you like, so long as you leave me alone, it’s the gun at my head telling me this is compulsory and that is prohibited that I have a real problem with… and yeah, unfortunately I can only keep my rifle off the registration rolls by storing it in NH, so my pistols are tracked unfortunately… living in MA, I have seen the liberal future, and it doesn’t work without a ton of people that work harder than they have to to appease the overbearing liberal apparatus. At least it is already crumbling under it’s own weight.. so I’ll keep pushing on it every chance I get.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Yes,well I was just asserting the”he who dies with the most toys wins”philosophy that we were brought up learning.But when you ask the winner what he won…he has no answer.My take is from a judeo-Christian perspective,culminating in something like this…..A giant hand picks you up and conveys you to a place where there is no light.As you are moving through the darkness there is light eminating from the hand,but everywhere else is total darkness.The hand then sets you down in the nothingness and begins to move away.As the giant hand fades into the darkness the light retreats with it.Now you are left in complete darkness,utterly alone.Stuck in a void from which there is no return.When you had the choice to choose between light and darkness,you chose darkness.So now that you have been given what you asked for,I have a question.How do you feel?What do you think of for an eternity alone?Who do you blame for the choice that you made?After a thousand years of contemplation,who will you hold in contempt?After a thousand more,where is your pride in your anguish?Did your obvious choice of darkness help you win with the most toys,in a place where there are no toys?You made the decision,now live with it.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Once they get a load of watching me, they will see they are wasting their time, and probably want to come and get their camera the heck out of there, because I aint hiding nothing, at least nothing they can see or know. And I pity the fool, when they plan a day, to try to tell Americans to turn in their guns and weapons. I want to see them come into the mountains of Tennessee, and see how that works for them. It’ll be better than anything youve ever seen on TV. Country boy can survive.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Hope they like nekkid azz,cuz they will see what they kin kiss,often.

      • Bleh

        That right there is funny.

      • jibbs

        If they put one in my home, it will only record,one flash!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        They cant even afford to excercise warrants on over 10 thousand criminals with warrants on them, so does anyone really think they can afford to buy a camera, do all the wiring, and put one in everyone’s home? And who is going to watch all the monitors? And who is going to buy all the monitors? I think this is all kind of silly, as there is no way. A lot of cities cant even afford to pay their city workers or police and fire dept. people, so how can they afford this? Its not going to happen. Its just not going to happen.

  • Dntmkmecmoverther

    Keep in mind this isn’t a police issue; it’s a court issue. The ‘court’ has said this is now legal; just like they have purported to say gay marriage is legal and abortion (killing of innocent little ones) is legal. The same court system at one time said slavery was legal. They have been wrong OFTEN lately and this is just one more example. I do feel sorry for the police because entering the home of a non criminal like me in the middle of the night (or any other time I happen to be home) will result in a ‘shots fired’ scenario. I can tell you I shoot better or equal to any law enforcement officer. It won’t be a pretty sight…and for what? A court order that took away my Constitutionally guaranteed right?

    This is why the founders wrote the document in away that spelled out NO WAY can these rights be taken away…yet we have a court and government all too happy to do so. Which implies they are NOT upholding the Constitution but are dismantling it. That makes them a domestic enemy. What do you do with ‘enemies’? Get rid of them…time to do so now while we still can…while we still have a Republic.

    • Ray

      I agree with you and most who have posted here rather than re-hash what you all have stated. Live free or die. Our country is falling apart and we can blame most of it on politicians and the courts, the rest of the blame goes to the voters who put these wrong-doers in office. TERM LIMITS are needed and needed now. We need a constitutional convention to install term limits (congress will never agree to do it on their own), and to overturn all the wrongs that have been passed by the courts and the District of Corruption. The time to be heard is now, not tomorrow, but now!

    • 45caliber

      You aren’t supposed to read the Constitution. After all, it is a “dead” document. Any progressive will tell you that. And it isn’t PC to argue with them about it.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Set course for enemy waters.Ramming speed.Damn the torpedoes,full speed ahead!

      • Kate8

        45 – Until recently, the Leftists declared the Constitution was a “living document” (to be twisted any way they chose).

        So now they’ve simply decided it’s jsut to be dispensed with altogether. After all, it’s already been hopelessly mangled beyond recognition by the courts. Why put up with such a hindrance when they can just make up whatever they want as they go along.

  • Uncle Pat

    These assaults upon our freedoms must be met with firm resolve. As an American citizen, I can not and will not bow down to any police state. You enter my home by force, prepare to meet your maker, as I will not hesitate to shoot you, robber, or cop.How in the hell have we allowed this to happen? We must stop listening to what our government tells us and pay MUCH MORE attention to what it does.

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      Yup…Indeed!

    • jibbs

      You can thank people like, Jeremy, AKA jovi ect. and the career welfare collectors to start.

    • Kate8

      Don’t those cops storm homes decked out in full body-armor?

      • PatHenry52

        If a jack-boot kicks in your door and is wearing body armor, aim for the head or the hand, especially if they’re aiming at you…. and hope you spent more time practicing!

      • Bleh

        That is where the Shotgun comes in.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    i know what is going to happen is a second american revolt.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Not a revolt,a rebuild.-CC.

      • jibbs

        We need to sanitize, before the rebuild.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Good idea. Or maybe a housecleaning, where accumulated trash is tossed and burned.

      • Bleh

        A few thousand Enemas applied to the DC area ought to do it.

    • http://google radical

      That’s right, so get ready, this is not a black thing, this is not a white thing, an Asian thing, An Hispanic thing, this is not even a religion thing, or a gay thing etc. this is a HUMAN BEING thing. As long as they can keep us separated by playing the race card, the prejudice card, the religion card, the homosexual card etc. that they perpetrate, will not only divide us and keep us separated, but it causes us to fight amongst ourselves. Divide and conquer is their motive, they don’t have to kill us, we kill ourselves by feeding into the ignorance and the bullcrap that they put out there. I’m a black american female, but I don’t see color, anybody that is a red blooded American in their heart and soul is my brother, sister, mother and father, so you guys out there are my family and we have to start looking out for one another, that is the only thing that’s going to get us through this, us sticking together, other than that we don’t have a chance! we as ONE BIG AMERICAN FAMILY need to pull of our resources together nationwide and help one another.

      • PatHenry52

        Amen sister.

        “I’ll hear a prayer from any man of piety and good character, so long as he is a Patriot!” Sam Adams – on the question of which pastor should offer a prayer for the multi-denominational congress.

        He was a Brewer/Patriot

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I like your attitude girl. I like it a lot. I feel the same way, and I try to see people as God see’s them, and He doesnt see us in colors or shades. I have friends in many colors and shades, and I have friends who are not Christians like I am. But it isnt my position or job to judge them, its my job to love them, be kind, and help my fellow man. Thats why we were put here. There is so much hate in the world today, and so many foreign countries that, basically, want to take what we have. We all here need to stick together, and only then, can we affect change in other countries. We cant do it with what they are doing now, either showering them with billions of dollars, or showering them with bombs. There is a better way, but thats not happening until He comes again. But again then, we all need to try to get along.

  • newspooner

    Government is out of control at all levels. Get the US out of the UN, and get the UN out of the US. Otherwise, all liberty will be lost.

    • 45caliber

      I’d like to see the UN out of the US but I don’t blame the UN for what is happening here. It is all due to our own politicians.

      • JeffH

        45caliber, with all due respect, the UN is involved in directing US policy, both domestic and international. A great number in our government are in bed with the whole idea of the UN’s global ideology on a one world governing body…see Agenda 21.

      • 45caliber

        The UN is only involved because our politicians want them to be. It still goes back to the politicians as far as I’m concerned. After all, the US has the right to veto anything the UN tries to do. Only Russia, China (after the US agreed to remove Formosa from the list), England and France have equal rights as far as I can remember. Both Russia and China will veto more times in a year than the US ever has. Too many of our politicians say things like, “Well, we couldn’t veto it even though it’s bad for our country because everyone else wants it.”

      • DaveH

        Just as Lincoln was able to subvert the Constitution to expand the powers of the Federal Government greatly, so too will the UN eventually if we don’t exit now.
        Let’s get out of that unholy alliance.

      • JeffH

        I don’t disagree with you, I’m merely pointing out that our “government” ie politicians are in bed with the UN ideology of a one world governing body and unfortunately the UN is that body. The veto is only as good as those that would choose to use it and at this time in our history we have no one that has the “want” to use the power of veto. I do hope we could get that power back into our government someday. 2012 will be that turning point in my opinion.

      • independant thinker

        45, I am not positive about this but think the veto only applies to the security council actions not the general assembly.

      • PatHenry52

        All agreements must be confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

        The veto is for security council…

        The whole thing is a joke, of course, but that Senate stop-gap is critical…

      • shipley130

        Excellent, 45, exactly. It’s the congress at the root of our problems in this country.

      • http://google radical

        The problem is the Supreme Court Judges are working for the global elite who are a bunch of satanists that want you to give your allegiance to Lucifer, that’s the problem. You think they care about us? they don’t, and they certainly don’t care about the U.S constitution, Ex president Bush already referred to it as a goddamn piece of paper. Find out why Abraham Lincoln was really assassinated, it wasn’t to free the slaves or to save the union as I was taught in school. Find out why ex president Bush Jr. was able to say that the U.S constitution was just a goddamn piece of paper. Cathy, they lied to us.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Id like to see the U.S. out of the UN.

    • http://google radical

      And while you’re at it shut down the Federal Reserve Bank, give the power to create and coin money back to congress because we the people NEVER gave congress the authority to give to the damnable Rothschild who own the Federal Reserve to create and coin money and we need to take back our gold that the Rothschild stole from us. Check your history, study economics google in on YOUTUBE ZEITGEIST THE FEDERAL RESERVE, also look up Edward Mendell House comments on what he stated was the purpose of the birth registration and certificate. He also was a global elite.

      • 45caliber

        radical:

        I don’t think Congress has actually done a thing except declare war in at least fifty years. Like the Federal Reserve, they delegate all their powers to some department. Oblamacare, for instance. They basically only agreed to and financed the creation of a department which has the rights and responsibility from Congress to establish all the laws we must follow about medical care. Congress just shoved it off on someone else.

      • Cawmun Cents

        It’s tenatively known as
        “Full Spectrum Domination”.

  • s c

    Here it comes, people. “Thanks” to LIBERAL interpretations of the laws of the land, it may not be possible to stop another civil war in America.
    It needs to be said that CONSERVATIVES are not to blame for this insanity. Those who can’t read, can’t think and want to feel their way through life are at the heart of this insanity. And, for what it’s worth, don’t forget the dynamic duo in the White House.
    Keep an eye on the 2nd Amendment. When they trifle with this freedom, it will be a bad time to be in law enforcement.
    It will be a variation of the ‘blue flu.’ Those who are stupid enough to try and enforce this INVASION won’t live long enough to see their
    loved ones at the end of the day. Oh, well. Those who refuse to take part will rightly claim to be AMERICANS.
    And, for those in Congress and the White House, you’ve chosen sides. May you get EXACTLY what you SOBs and traitors DESERVE. Up the rebels!

    • John Galt

      I agree whole heartedly with you, There will be a second civil war, it won’t be between us and the US Military, it will be us and the US Military against a foreign aggressor brought to you by that same dynamic duo, wake up America, we are at war

      • Kate8

        Civil war is exactly what those in power are trying to incite. It will give them “justification” to impose martial law, and really begin open genocide.

      • http://www.aol.com bill marvin

        you are correct on this 1!!! unfortunately bho,”the annointed one” wants this to happen very badly so as to satisfy his ultimate wish, “president for life”, and this comes from his autobiography, “dreams from my father”

      • http://google radical

        In the infamous words of our American Youths “IT IS WHAT IT IS”

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        What he wants, and what he gets are two different things. He is gone in 2012, and there isnt a doubt about it in my mind.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        That is probably their reasoning and agenda.

    • http://google radical

      The conservatives and the liberals are both of the same agenda. Think about the eagle that symbolizes this country, he has a right wing and a left wing, both wings belong to the same bird. It’s an illusion my friend, to make you think they’re opposing sides but the reality is they’re both working the same program, it’s just that the conservatives are working one end of the spectrum while the liberals are working the opposite end but they’re both working toward the middle. My fellow American citizen, look through the smoke that they’re blowing and through the smoke screen and you’ll see who your master manipulators are. It’s not enough of them to have all the money in the world but they wanna control you, me and the whole wide world. I’m sorry my friend but only GOD has that type of control and these people aian’t GOD. And I hope they’re reading this

      • Cawmun Cents

        Good thing we dont have an octopus for the symbol of our nation huh?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its going to be close to that in the end though. There will be a 10 nation one world government, and right after they form, 3 of them will be expelled leaving the 7 to run it until Christ comes again. So thats pretty close to the octopus you referred to.

  • http://www.sirjason.wordpress.com SIR JASON

    Oath Keepers: By Stewart Rhodes, Founder
    May 19, 2011

    “This is being sent to official Oath Keepers members only. I seek your input on a very important topic. As you may know, a young 26 year old Marine veteran who had survived two tours in Iraq, and father of two, Jose Guereña, was killed in a SWAT raid in Tucson, Arizona on May 5 (see below news articles for details).

    At approximately 9:30 am, two hours after he hit the rack after working a twelve hour graveyard shift at an Arizona mine, his wife woke him by yelling that there were men with guns outside (she had seen a man outside the window pointing a gun at her).

    He told her to take their four year old son and hide in a closet, grabbed his AR-15, and stepped out into the hallway of his home just as his front door was battered in.

    He died with his safety still on. He didn’t fire a shot. The Pima County, Arizona (Sheriff Dupnik’s department), SWAT Team fired 71 rounds at him, hitting him with approximately 60 rounds.
    He had no criminal record. The only justification given by the Sheriff’s spokesman for using SWAT to serve the warrant was that it was a search warrant in a narcotics conspiracy investigation (with three other homes searched in the same neighborhood), and that this is their policy when the home-owner may be armed.”

    • Dntmkmecmoverther

      This is exactly what is coming at all of us.

      Two problems: one is poorly trained SWAT teams. ’71′ rounds fired? Godalmighty are you serious? Sounds like they stopped after they ran out of ammo! Even Osama only needed two rounds! If you are a shitty shot, I guess you need 71 rounds. But, if there are no ‘legal incumberances’ then what the hell, fire away! But don’t do that at my house. My safety is ‘Off’ and I don’t wait when firepower is looking at me. Frankly I find it easier to get out of jail than out of the grave (except at the resurrection of course)
      Two: When the government believes they have more power than you, it’s not a government any more; it’s a tyranny.

      I fear this is where we are; the state of tyranny. We were here once before in 1773. How would we like to handle this situation today?

      • Bleh

        Meanwhile if a citizen fires 1 shot more than is needed to incapacitate a would be assailant they get burned and fried via the same system That justifies 70+ shots from SWAT.
        What is wrong with this picture?

    • Chief Liberty

      I’ve trained SWAT teams and leaders for several years. The use of such personnel for service of general warrants is a recipe for disaster in my opinion.

      Using officers trained in “hair-trigger” skills to pursue the arrest arrest lower level (I recognize the possibility of exceptions)criminals is akin to an NFL offensive line going up against a touch football team. SWAT operators “rev up” in the moments before entry, a natural reaction to threat and stress pump adrenaline and the results are 60 rounds into a man who never got a safety off, and may not have intended to.

      No easy answers, just a perspective for thought..

      • 45caliber

        The problem I see is that every police group wants a “SWAT” team. But that means there are now people working there who seldom actually have any job to do. So they want to use them on lesser offences to keep them busy.

        I believe that there should be ONE SWAT team per county – if that many. And all police groups need to contribute and use that group instead of each having their own. But you have all these police chiefs wanting their own empire.

      • Kate8

        45 – It sounds to me like another message is being sent to the people of America, to send yet another wave of chills up our collective spines. Either these incidents are becoming more prevalent, or are just being reported more often.

        I knew a fellow in a n.west state who owned a slaughterhouse, and was an avid hunter. He was also a crack-shot. The local police recruited him for the local s.w.a.t. team for that reason, but he declined, saying that he was afraid he’d like it too much.

      • 45caliber

        One thing I’ve wondered about. If I shoot at something under 300 yards and miss the exact point by more than an inch or so, I feel that I’ve missed. Yet the snipers the police and particularly the feds use can and have “missed” by as much as 18″ or more at less than 200 yards.

        That tells me that either they have the wrong men in that position either due to inaccuracies or because they get too excited in a real situation OR they are deliberately shooting where they hit and are trying to insist it was a miss. And they certainly don’t seem to mind shooting through an innocent person if they feel it necessary.

      • http://www.aol.com bill marvin

        and is that supposed to make it right??? that the police have the right to go off and kill indriscriminately?? thay have been doing that here in new york and new york city, for a very long time!! and it seems everyone they meet in any way is a criminal 1st, and a human being last and all decency in between has been so trampled into the ground that is no longer exists!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thats because your New York, and Massachusetts, Illinois, and a few other liberal states are pretty much wholly owned and run by the mob. They own the police force. Dont expect them to be on the up and up. Serpico anyone?

      • DaveH

        It’s high time we end the ridiculous war on drugs. The warriors have become more dangerous than the drugs (expensive too):
        http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock

      • PatHenry52

        I agree, I couldn’t care less if you want to kill yourself and ruin your life, but until you ask something of me, who am I to tell you what to do? Most of the problems with addicts has nothing to do with their addiction directly, it is the other crap that SHOULD be illegal, theft, violence, etc. So, why do we ask “why” you stole or harmed someone, you steal for any reason, you face restitutive penalty, you harm someone, you face appropriate retribution.

        Too simple, no way to pander to special interest groups that way, that’s why nobody in the Fed/State Mafia suggests it publically.

      • Cawmun Cents

        While I certainly agree with your stance on the subject of legalization PatHenry52,one nust also read between the lines to see the reasoning behind continuing the”war on drugs”.Whereas it may seem obvious to some….good guys vs. bad guys,there are some gray areas which come to mind considering the vast amounts of fundage at play.First it must be stated that to play one hand against the other is a trick which we observe constantly in government circles.Most intelligent people would not see the merit in doing so in the war on drugs,unless you can envision the making of monies on both sides.Here you have one hand greasing(giving funds to)the other in order to perpetuate a grubsteak.If legalization occurs,then half of the grubsteak goes away.Of course if one were to set up a healthcare system,whereby one could mange drug abuse and distribution,then that grubsteak need not be lost.If you procure billions to fight drug abuse and to fund the drug suppliers at the same time,you make monies going both ways and charge the public to make that situation happen.YOU AND I are funding both the fight against,and the supply chain and we argue about the outcome.Opiates in Afghanistan,and stimulants in Mexico and Colombia,marijuana from the same places and domestically.These are all ways of using public monies to fund suppliers and fight against suppliers at the same time.This is why you do not see the borders being protected better.It has more to do with profit than it does with humanity.You have no problem blaming oil companies for seeking to profit.Companies who manufacture military supplies make money while you are at war.So then…if you are an enterprising young congressperson,and you have constituents which bid for your attentions,why not the illicit trade in the war on drugs?Is it fundamentally any different from any other war?Do you see that the Taliban is a front of people we are fighting against,but the government of Pakistan will aid them in hiding in their back country?We give billions to Pakistan,and billions to our military,only to perpetuate the issue.Wallah!Instant fundage.If you cannot account for every doolar spent…I am thinking you cannot,then whos pockets are getting lined?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        How many billions have they wasted on this thing Dave? There are guys getting rich, in the so called leading the war on drugs, and they have no intention of stopping them. If they do, they are all out of work. Its all a game, and they use our money to play it. Its just another way big government has made another branch to suck more money out of us. Your correct Dave, its a huge waste, sucking us dry.

    • cathy w

      I ABSOLUTLY DESPISE the ways of TUCSON ,AZ soooooo currupt ,they thought they were a police state all along ,used to live there..they lie and violate peoples rights ,constantly,everyone in power there is corrupt..this is 1st hand info..
      im very saddened to hear more bad news from there.. thats why they are bankrupt..they have so many multi million dollar federal lawsuits against them,and cps,they steal peoples children to also gain FEDERAL MONEY.. THIS IS NOT A LIE
      THIS ruling is going to destroy our rights once and for all

    • http://google radical

      I can remember listening to an independent talk radio station here in California a few months back when the talk show host stated that the supreme court nominee (gosh I can’t remember her name)didn’t believe in the 4th ammendement. They played a partial taped interview of her commenting on the 4th ammendment when she raised an argument against the 4th ammendment. She stated that unreasonable searches and seizures depend upon what is to be considered unreasonable, I knew then that they were going to begin searching people’s homes and seizing their property because this lady (gosh I can’t remember her name, she is the recent newly appointed supreme court nominee)was not only elected to the supreme court but has now provided the justification for the police state to now go full force with their searches, seizures, and murdering thousands upon thousands of American citizens including women and children. This lady also stated that she didn’t believe in the 4th ammendment and it all depends on what you would call an unreasonable search and seizure. What baffles me further is who elected this women to the supreme court? Regardless of how this situation looks, this is STILL a government FOR the people and BY the people, they are our employees, they work for us! somehow we have been so deeply confined in this sheeple state of mind we forgot. Who elected this woman? and who made this a legislation without first bringing it to the PEOPLE! If you are a business owner, or a homeowner, would you allow certain policies and procedures of your company to be made and implemented by the board members without first bringing it to your attention? I mean who would have the final say, you or your employees? Would you allow things to go on in your home unawares? Would you even allow your children that you feed, clothe and provide shelter for dictate to you how you should run your house? Would you even allow your teenage sons and daughters that I know you set curfew for dictate to you the rules of your home that you labor so hard to pay for? My point is if our children did to us what we have allowed the government to do to us, we would feel as though our children were defying us or being rebellious and at that point we would take strict measures to discipline them. If we own a business, if we allowed our employees to treat us the way the government treat us, they would be FIRED! so, why would I allow the Supreme Court to tell me that I HAVE to let the police search my home that I pay for every month through my hard labor? and they can seize my property? I think not, as long as I’m not a threat to myself or anyone else, they have NO RIGHT to come into my home, AT ALL! We as Americans have a obligation, a duty to protect what’s ours as was per the U.S Constitution. America it’s time to stop acting like sheeple being led to the slaughter and start being who we are, Americans, we aren’t United States Citizens (it’s a difference) we are Americans and we better start acting like it. NO MAN is going to tell me I have to let the police search my home without probable cause or a search warrant, I don’t care who they are. Oh, and by the way, the day they wanna come into my home search my home or seize my property without a search warrant that has been signed and sealed by a judge? It’s going to be a problem. America, you are too soft, time to get your head out of the sand, and wake up to what’s really going on, that’s why they’re trying to do away with the 2nd ammendment so when they do bust down your front door, you wouldn’t be able to defend yourself or your family.

    • DaveH

      Speaking of Oath Keepers, I ran across this interview in Reason Magazine (follow links at bottom of article to read full interview):
      http://reason.com/archives/2011/04/11/constitutional-refuseniks

  • Michael J.

    Thanks Bob, your words are as sharp as a razors edge. Trouble is, the time for words is nearly over. In a time when government falsehoods are smoothed over with blatant lies, action appears to be the only remedy to righteous conservatives with one eye on the government and the other on their offsprings prospects for freedom and prosperity.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    I dont know what to think. I support and still do support police acting to protect others and enforce laws. I feel accepting searchs without warrants is acceptable under certain circumstances. Afterall if police hear a gun shot inside a house even without a warrant they must investigate. If they see something in plain site they must act. I believe if it can be proven somehow that the sounds which compelled the officers to enter without a warrant could be proven to sound like the destruction of evidence or the smell of marijuana perhaps it is understandable or excusable. Though I would say the officer should knock and make mention of the smell and issue some kind of warning first and that only being if marijuana possesion is a felony in the state or if they have strong reason to suspect the people inside or commision of some crime. I believe there are certain situations where perhaps an officer must act without a warrant and yet still be considered justified. Though I would say trying to specify those situations could create more problems than it solves.

    • Michael J.

      Jeremy Leochner,
      Typical liberal jibberish, I suggest you become aquainted with the Fourth Ammendment to The Constitution.

      “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

      • John Galt

        Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither

      • J. Marine

        And they will get neither!

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Amen to all, but what we say here is not going to change the Supreme Court decisions. We let them pack the court, and now have to live with it!

      • Kate8

        Jeremy – I point you to Michael J’s post, where he mentions “probable cause”. This allows police to enter without warrant, and it’s been the law for a very long time.

        Simple suspicion is not enough, or it wasn’t ’til now.

      • Mike in MI

        J. Marine – “…and they’ll get neither.” I’m not so sure.

        They’ll be promised security, and get it, if they align themselves with the powers on top. Of course their freedoms will suffer mightily. But the liberals – who know, recognize, accept nor respect – anything called or heralded as God – will welcome anything as long as they are allowed their petty, undisciplined, personal pleasures and vices without judgement nor interruption. Give ‘em that and they’ll go along with anything else.
        Problem is many of those appetites and compulsions tend to be progressive, debilitating and/or produce subtle damage to other folks that is difficult to directly connect to the damage wrought. Many of them are3 things God calls “sins” which are most galling to liberal-types becuse they want to think as long as they won’t look at the damage it doesn’t exist.
        At length the problems produced demand official attention. Since the “officials” don’t know where the trouble originates they pick some scapegoat to lay the blame on…usually some political enemies or people who have something they covet. Injustice meets violence (at length) and rules pile on rules until nobody except the Oligachs and tyrrany of the proletariat has any wiggle room to live. There is no freedom (or incentive) to think or produce. Government’s funding then can’t come from taxes, so they take (to support themselves).
        What started as a movement promising things everybody thought would bring socially worthy and beneficial ends, ends up with everything worthy and beneficial – for its nobles.
        Bob is right about another thing they seem to always end up declaring they themselves are “gods” and/or they rule by divine right. Any one or anything who opposes them in that apacity must be dealt with – severely. It usually ends up “desist or die”. So, Christians an Jews, be prepaed to go underground here, because thy will be coming for your Bibles and You and your God.
        We have been given the spiritual authority and tools by God to resist and overcome. Do you know what they are? Do you know enough about Scripture and Christian history to be able to see where they were successfully utilized by believers to resist the princes and powers of this world? If they did it so can you – but is guessing at it any good when you hear the knock on the door? God gave us power and abilities that makes the Old Testament scenes look paltry. And it’s subtle. People focus on the persecutions and horrors. DON’T LOOK HERE. Look at the ones who survived and were invisible to the Adversaries’ hordes. (As a Frinstance: Jesus was about to be thrown off a cliff by a riotous crowd. He tured around and walked back through the midst of the mob and left town…how?
        Remember what he said about believers being able to do the things and greater things, than he did, because he went to the Father? Things are going to get busy quite soon. You might want to learn about some of this – if your pastor/priest can teach you. If he/she can’t (or won’t) go find someone who can and will teach you the rights and privileges of believers. Be prepared to become a little more meek than a brick.

      • Al M

        Lewis Munn says Amen to all, but what we say here is not going to change the Supreme Court decisions. We let them pack the court, and now have to live with it!
        I say we do not have to live with it! This is the road to communism
        and we have the right to defend ourselves and our constitution against
        this kind of injustice. We the people now and never have to just live with it.

      • Richard Pawley

        To Mike in MI: Good post about learning about the authority that God gives the followers of Jesus who have sought to grow and who have often experienced what the 120 did in the Upper Room in ACTS 2. God can guide anyone who truly seeks Him. I’m alive because of His guidance. I’ve been robbed at gun point, kidnapped, had my apartment burglarized, and been taken to the hospital twice unconscious from an auto accident caused by someone else. If you haven’t read PRISON TO PRAISE by Merlin Carothers, Lt.Col (Ret.) I highly recommend it. It’s only 106 pages long and I once corresponded with one of the people in the book. It’s available in about 50 different languages and is a good example of what God can do. So many lives have been changed by this simple book that the author wrote a few more of just letters of people who wrote him to tell how it changed their life. We are headed for some serious bad times in the future, hopefully a number of years yet, but only God knows for sure. In both my books I recommend PRISON TO PRAISE and another called GOD CALLING that has 365 short
        ‘teachings’ that Jesus gave to a woman in England about 75 years ago. You may already be familiar with both of these but if not check them out and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Both are available on eBay in paperback. May God bless you and all who read this.

      • denniso

        The majority of the Court are Repub nominees. Most of the rightwing favors the drug war,and most liberals would like to end it and even legalize most drugs. Most of the religious Repubs think that drug use has to be repressed as a moral issue. Why would people who fake a love of liberty and freedom vote for Repubs? Oh,because the one thing they do love is unrestricted gun rights. I so easily forget.

        You reap what you sow…

      • Steve

        There are Patriots among us who will resist this tyranny. This Court decision is the beginning of another Civil War. The new Fort Sumter, the next Shot Heard Round The World. It won’t be long before we start reading about all the law enforcement officers being “killed in the line of duty” as they kick in the doors of Patriots all over this Nation.

        It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace–but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the fields! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have?

        Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

        Patrick Henry
        The Church of Saint John
        March 23, 1775

      • http://aeonpi.com Aeon PI

        I will Remain a Gentlemen and as Gentle Men have done during times of war. We will raise our sites and interests. We will Rise above the scramblers of table scraps and keep Balance of the new world. I will not for one stop my Flow for the fears of those living in Limit or lack. I do not see one War that has PROVIDED ANYTHING to those who Claim victory. IN the end all will lose who follow this design.

        Only Intelligence, mixed with True Wisdom is going to Win the FINAL day and Create a future we can ALL appreciate. We REPEAT history,… not the other way around. WE CONTINUE TO CHOOSE BRUTE FORCE OVER TACTICAL STRATEGIES That completely breakdown our enemy. The ART of WAR does not always Require direct engagement.

        Learn what it means to be a IPP (internationally protected person)and how it provides you the Security that is REAL.

      • Tony B

        Hey Steve I agree with you 100% In fact a great way to control these liberal pinko traitor judges would be to create a “Star Chamber” to over see thier decisions and have them reversed as well as the judges themselves.(If you know what I mean.)

      • http://4thamendment Tony

        To Everyone:
        What is the world coming to!?! This is like the type of gov. that was in charge in the movie “V for Vendetta”. Well, remember good citizens -Freedom Forever!!

      • Mike in MI

        Aeon PI -
        How much good did this designation as an IPP thunderbutt do for Daniel Pearl (He was “safe” as an international journalist)? How much good is it going to be when presented to hostiles in places where the U. N. or whatever agency that bestows it is laughed at or areas controlled by such people as who run the cartels on the TEX/MEX border?
        Let’s see? Wouldn’t that sort of make you an exile to no where from a piece of paper? Subject of none, object of all. Sovereign in the earth like a pebble in the roadway? Ambassador from yourself? Legate to the Upper Downs?
        How much good is your human intelligence and (un)True Wisdom going to do against spiritual forces that can do things in manipulating the relationships of matter and energy that are the stuff of Star Wars? And where do you think Lucas got his Ideas? Nature? Human Intelligence? Man’s huge greatness is evident only to stupid, egocentric human sludge.

      • Dennis

        I don’t mean to change the subject, but heres a New news flash, the TSA will now be comeing to your kids school proms, theme parks, sporting events, many many hwys and large shopping centers. Martial Law is slowly being put into place every single day under this worthless government.

      • BDOG

        I am with you brother.

      • JC

        “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else.”

        “If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law.”

        ~ Winston Churchill

        Anyone else starting to lose respect for these tyrants?

      • Kate8

        J C – It seems that the only ones who still respect the tyrants are the Lefties, and worship seems more appropo.

        One day soon they’ll figure out that the PTB hold them in as much contempt as they do the rest of us, maybe more…because even satan, himself, has no respect for those willing to sell their souls.

        The whole objective of this vile, treasonous government is to spit in the eye of the People, causing us to feel alienated from our system. They WANT us to rise up and MAKE THEIR DAY.

      • JC

        Kate, if they manage to subdue or otherwise get rid of 180 million (or more) gun owning patriots, the Pinko Libbies will find that they
        are no longer useful to the PTB’s and that they are expendable.
        If THEY are to be saved it will (again) be because WE carried their pathetic weight.

        There’s “Change” coming alright…

      • Al M

        I never had any respect for tyrants or anyone else that tries to
        take away our constitutional rights and freedom .It looks like the time has come to make a stand.

      • Kate8

        J C – You’ve got that right. It’s always the courage of the conservatives who fight for freedom for all – even the Leftie’s sorry b*tts.

        And it’s always the Lefties who get us into these messes, and they never even see it until it arrives at their doorstep.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, “they never even see it until it arrives at their doorstep” and still look to blame somone else(Bush/Cheney and now Reagan as an example). Again, it almost always boils down to taking responsibility for one actions.

      • Al Sieber

        JeffH, nice weapon, Colt .45 ACP, Mod. 1911?

      • JeffH

        Al Sieber. it’s a Kimber Royal II 45ACP…don’t own one though.

      • JC

        Hey Jeff, if you can, get one.
        Kimber makes the nicest .45 I’ve ever owned.
        Works best on FMJ’s. ;)

      • BDOG

        JC They are prepairing for whats coming.

      • Paul Rutkowski

        Do we need another reason to toss that Muslim, as well as The Socialist Democraptic,( mis-spelled quite intentionally ,) Party of the United States.
        I was in local and federal law enforcement for 32 years – as well as having served 2 tours of duty in Vietnam at which location I was awarded 2 Purple Hearts, the Combat Infantryman’s Badge (CIB), and the Bronze Star. I was a Paratrooper with the 173rd Airborne Brigade.
        While all the above, in addition to a $ 2.50 MAY by one a small cup of coffee at an airport, I do believe it affords me the right to state that I am becoming sick to my stomach in admitting that I am a citizen of the United States at this point in time.

      • Kate8

        Paul R – No, we don’t need another reason to toss this Muslim usurper out of office. What we need is a system that will listen and respond to us. There is already ample reason to arrest this foreign agent in the WH but, it seems, that the whole gov. is in on it, and the military is too confused to act.

        Thank you for your service to your country. You seem sincere. Many of us are sick to our stomachs at what is transpiring in America, and are more than willing to act, if we only knew what to do.

      • Fed up

        Amen! I couldn’t have said it better. It has come down to the point where the minimum of Americans are the ones watching and researching in more areas than just the corrupt and controlled local media are the only people that can see the truth behind the curtain. God Bless you for the service you’ve given this country and I can only hope that the other soldiers and military servers are able to come to the same conclusions. I’m a Vietnam era vet and I still do and will forever stand by my commitment to Constitution and this countries Freedom and Liberties.

      • Paul Rutkowski

        You are totally correct, Kate…..We have absolutely no leadership and I am having difficulty in understanding this Speaker of the House we have in place.
        I trult believe we have the numbers to act, but anything forwarded to our ”reps” fall on totally deaf ears.
        I believe a part of it stems from the age, old saying: ” if one is not a millionaire before he/she goes to Washinton, D.C., he/she will most certainlt be by the time they leave”.
        Kinda of long way around the horn in sayoing these ‘representatives” are only into it for their own agenda and for the powers that are who put them there.
        What do they all fear? – the ”well regulated militia ” the Constitution sets forth.
        I’m am convinced it its coming…something no generation of the U.S. since the Civi; War, would ever dream of; i.e., revolt.

      • Raymond Babcock

        those who give up liberty for security will end up with nither

      • Conservative at Birth

        Jeremy does’nt care. He is a NAZZI at heart, as is his idol Obama. NAZZI BOLSHEVIK, it makes no difference. The ends justify the means in their minds.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        And their minds are full of very mean things!!

      • Wayne937

        Michael, I am a staunch Conservative, but I have to disagree with you on this one. If you hears screams coming from a home, gunshots, or any other things to indicate a crime if being committed, you have a duty to enter the residence and protect the innocent folks as well. Believe me, I have been in that situation, I know. You cannot tell me that if you were a police officer, and you answered a call to a home, and hear a person screaming for help, that you would not enter the residence. Yes! the law has always permitted this.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Vanessa T.

        what are the chances of the police actually being around when a gun goes off in some ones house? i have been in situations where friends come over or i am some where else and guys will be guys they start shooting at the couch or in the yard or something just for laughs and fun!!! no children around period. so you are saying when or if a cop hears it he has every right to come break down my door? then he takes my guns away and arrests me?!!!! the system is all about money and control they will say and do anything to just get you thrown in jail.

      • karolyn

        Shooting at the couch or in the yard? How would anybody know it was all “in fun.” Just because men like loud noises they should be excused from irresponsible behavior? Granted, if you live way out in the country like I do, hearing gunshots is no big deal. It certainly depends on circumstances.

      • Thoma

        Vanessa, you are an idiot, and your friends are idiots. I contend that there WERE children around, you and your friends qualify by having a mental age of 8. Time to grow up!

      • Ken

        Police and law officers do not carry weapons to protect the public. They carry weapons to protect themselves in their line of duty. To expect an officer of the law to protect you the citizen is a delusion.

      • 45caliber

        I got a laugh at a story some time ago. A cop off duty at home was awakened by a skunk smell in the middle of the night. He went out in his backyard and saw the skunk. He emptied his revolver without hitting it but it ran off.

        The next day he checked the logs. Not one single report by anyone of six shots fired in a residential area.

      • 45caliber

        Thoma:

        In town – maybe. In the country? Probably not unless they were in the house watching out the window.

      • Mike

        i would not call them friends. you do not play with guns period……

      • p51d3

        Right on Vanessa, when “SECONDS” count, the cops are usually only “MINUTES” away.

      • p51d3

        But that’s when you “NEED” their help.

      • http://burkecomputers.blogspot.com/ DanB

        I grant you that. But if you should enter into a home and it be a false warning, then you should be punished accordingly. Give the police free reign, and someday that will NOT be GOOD. There is no ands, if, or buts about it. History is replete with examples. Not one example I know of though where absolute police control being truly for the good of the citizens. And if it were at first, it has always ended poorly. The statement of “be careful what you wish for” stands true.

        Most people probably don’t know how much liberty we do NOT have. Being in IT, I am all too aware that government has way TOO MUCH power and most of us don’t know it because by law your internet providers often CANNOT tell you if and when the government makes a request of them.

        Personally, on this, I am going to have to stand with the 4th Amendment.

      • Bus

        John Adams wrote: “… because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
        This is the center of the argument. If “the People” feel that it isn’t a very safe place to live they will give the police more and more power. And if, in fact, it isn’t a very safe place to live because of the increased number of people breaking the law then the people will give up their liberty for some more security. We better start by being better people!

      • Paul

        Dan,
        I agree, but what do you mean “some day”? Check this out that our media have conveniently ignored.
        Paul

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389437/Iraq-war-vet-marine-Jose-Guerena-shot-71-times-Tucson-home-SWAT-team.html

      • p51d3

        You’re right Dan. We’re seeing the same things happen right here in our own country that happened in Hitler’s Germany and if we don’t act to correct it, our fate will be the same as their’s was. And that will NOT be good.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Wayne937,

        You may have a point,but damn you do,damn don’t,its a fine line.You have to be the judge in that difficult situation.

      • (Rev.) Glen H. Inlow

        I find it rather ironic that you use the immediate response to save a life argument to justify kicking in someone’s door becuase you smell Pot or hear the sounds of the destruction of evidence!

        Although you adamently claim to be a strong conservative you sure fictionalize the argument to twist the justification just like a proper upstanding socialist/progressive/liberal!

      • Christin

        Hey Glenn,
        I was wondering… just what does “distruction of evidence” sound like on the other side of the door (of a privately owned or rented house)… anybody know?

        A toilet flushing, fire burning in the fireplace, shredding paper in a paper shredder, computer clicks to delete files…

        Wow, that appears to be a BIG stretch to kick in a person’s door.

        I can see the steroid pumped, gun & badge toting, I’m-in-Charge, narscistic cop LOVING their NEW Powers to keep the civilians, innocent or guilty, under control and fearful.

        I have already met police who think they should be worshipped and push their power around… so this just gives them the back up they need to keep arresting anybody for anything…

        Hey, I hear something in that house… KICK

      • Mike in MI

        Reerend Inlow or anybody -
        I wonder. If they kick in enough doors on enough houses at what point will it be possible to establish a charge of profiling homeowners against them.

      • JeffH

        Wayne937…it’s called “probable cause” and the courts have now broadened the criteria despite the 4th Amedment. Probable cause is a standard used in justifying certain police actions. For example, police need to have probable cause to believe evidence of a crime exists in requesting a search warrant to be issued. It is more than mere suspicion but less than the amount of evidence required for conviction.

        The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution has two clauses. The first states that people have a right to be protected from unreasonable searches and seizures, and the second states that no warrant shall issue except upon probable cause. Probable cause is the level of evidence held by a rational and objective observer necessary to justify logically accusing a specific suspect of a particular crime based upon reliable objective facts.

        Thus what this robed plutocrat is falsely decreeing is that post PATRIOT ACT, “probable cause” is stricken from the 4th Amendment.

        Our right to be free from unwarranted government intrusion exists whether the oppression emanates from FEDERAL or STATE, for the right is a NATURAL RIGHT and wholly OUTSIDE the purview of all government.

      • John Stone

        I, as one of VERY many, absolutely AGREE with your last paragraph! This ‘natural right’ WILL be kept in force by many of us.

        The simple fact is that “Freedom is NOT always free”… There will be bloodshed because of this attempt to suborn this right of ours.

        There are a LOT of Patriots in this country that will eventually see this as a problem, and will stand up to correct it. There will be plenty of folks who will eventually “Deserve their Liberty and Safety”.

        Powder is dry!

      • Cawmun Cents

        Sheriff came knocking today.Said a 911 call came from someone living at my address.In California,a new law stating that during a 911 call for domestic violence that law enforcement agents may enter your house and confiscate any weaponry. FYI!What is not apparent in that law is that if by triangulation,the call cannot be proved to have eminated from your property,then they have no right to enter and search.I adamantly denied them permission to search my premises in front of the cameras on their vehicles.The female deputy wanted to search wiithout my permission,but the male deputy knew I had denied permission loudly,facing the camera in her vehicle.This was my moment to shine.If you know the method of their madness you can easily debunk any untruths they will attempt to foist upon you.NEVER GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO SEARCH YOUR PERSON,VEHICLE,OR PROPERTY!Make sure that you are well infront of their cameras to ensure that if by chance they violate your rights,it can be clearly seen when you go to court.A good attorney will have a field day with that.Similarly,state loudly that you are denying them permission to search you in any way.You will want that to be heard when you present your case in court.Do not be stand offish! Do not be threatening!Do not refuse to cooperate!Any of these things can be construed as resisting.That will be used against you.You CAN resist using only a calm but loud voice.KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE THEY CAN CLEARLY BE SEEN IN THE CAMERA.They can shoot you if it even somewhat appears that you may be going for a weapon.If they choose to search your vehicle despite your protests…let them.Do not physically resist them in any way.All of these things I am saying are valuable information to us all.Most enforcement officials respect when a person knows what to do.They will not take it beyond lawful means if you use these methods.They worked for me today!-CC.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JeffH,
        Like I said before, don’t make love to your wife while burning incence and have your kid flush the toilet!! They’ll kick it in for sure!!!

      • Jana

        Wayne937,
        Your post stated:************

        May 23, 2011 at 7:56 am
        Michael, I am a staunch Conservative, but I have to disagree with you on this one. If you hears screams coming from a home, gunshots, or any other things to indicate a crime if being committed, you have a duty to enter the residence and protect the innocent folks as well. Believe me, I have been in that situation, I know. You cannot tell me that if you were a police officer, and you answered a call to a home, and hear a person screaming for help, that you would not enter the residence. Yes! the law has always permitted this.
        ****************************

        The key here If you were a police officer and you answered a call to a home. The police have already been called and alerted to the fact that there is a problem.

        How about another scenario where the police want to look through your things and you aren’t home so they decide that they smell gas coming from your house or make up something else just to gain access to your house. Most police are honest, but not all of them are and giving them too much authority can be dangerous.

        Of course if you hear screams or gunshots then they already have the right to go in.

      • Mug

        No one who screams for help should have to wait for the police to break in. Their fellow citizens and neighbors should get there first. Their fellow citizens and neighbors know if she regularly screams because her husband pleasures her or if he beats her, they know if it is kids playing or being abused, they know if a stranger entered the house before the screaming began, they know if the smell of marijuana smoke regularly comes from the house.

        In America, citizens and neighbors are legally armed for the protection of all and consider themselves brothers and sisters and correctly answer the question “am I my brother’s keeper.” When tragedy happens citizens and neighbors blame themselves and never blame the police for not being there or being too late. Oh wait, that was 200 years ago and this is now. You might be right Wayne.

        But understand this Wayne, the police officer standing outside the door might decide to ignore the screams and smell of marijuana smoke. When neighbors complained and police responded and found a teenage boy wandering in a drugged daze with blood oozing out his rectum, the police didn’t do anything and wrote in their report that Mr Jefferey Dahmer had assured them it was a gay lovers quarrel. They later found the boy’s head in Jeffery’s freezer.

      • Bear

        Interesting observations. It is interesting to note that marijuana has been on this planet for thousands of years and cocaine has too. People use to use these items freely whenever and wherever they wanted until the government decided to take away that right by declaring them illegal. Now, if a police officer hears me flush the toilet, that could be construed as me trying to flush the evidence so as not to be caught with these items in my posession. What if I’m just getting rid of a really bad round of tacos amd maugaritas from lsst night? Does that flush give the police the right to break down my door? That IS the issue here. This is what the 4th ammendment protects us from and that should not change. We are stupid if we continue to allow the lawyers, police, and government to keep whittling away on our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        We are now stupid. Public education under the government has made us so!

      • Ken

        Bear said,”…We are stupid if we continue to allow the lawyers, police, and government to keep whittling away on our Constitution and Bill of Rights.”

        I think the central core of Mr. Livingston’s thesis is not that they are going to whittle away our Constitution and Bill of Rights but that they have already whittled these rights away. Isn’t the question now that seeing we have no recourse in the courts what is the next option to reinstate the Constitution and Bill of Rights? We didn’t have the will to defend ourselves against what we were told were Islamic attacks and the result of that is Patriot Acts I & II that totally decimates the Bill of Rights and expands government powers exponentially. Do we really have the will now to defend genuine Constitutional government?

      • John Stone

        Those REALLY ARE the fundamental questions, and I, for one, am willing to do what it takes…

      • JeffH

        Ken, very well said.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        We are going to be controlled by the government because that is what people are demanding and will demand.Pseudo morality is the form the control will take. Because most people cannot control themselves, other people have laws passed to control the bad behaviors.The Commandments are the simplest laws that people have decided to not obey, in their place we have thousands upon thousands of laws. The laws have not curtailed bad behavior, sexual disease, immorality, broken families,drug use,etc.. People will give up their freedom for a little tranquility to anyone who promises safety.

      • Bell

        Michael, that’s right. As far as I’m concerned,this is only another shifty way to eventually take all guns from people.That’s what the government’s been wanting to do all along. Take away their guns and you can control the people…just like Hitler did. The ones that are on the supreme court have went against the law of our constitution and they should be held responsabile and arrested. In fact, all the crooked judges, crooked cops, crooked law makers, etc that have been setting their up own laws should all be arrested. I hope someone is keeping note on the names of those that have over the last two and a half years been acting against our rights, freedoms and constitutions.

      • r.p.

        Try the last 150 years. More so since FDR.

      • Mary

        You’re right. When that abuse of authority happen to other is OK but when happens to Jeremy he’ll change his mind a little to late as always as other countries has done. People never learn.

    • DENNIS

      THERE ARE TOO MANY CROOKED POLICE THAT CAN JUST LIE ABOUT WHAT THEY “SMELL OR HEAR” TO JUST ROLL OVER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT AND ENTER YOUR HOUSE ANYWAY. YOU WILL CHANGE YOUR TUNE WHEN IT HAPPENS TO YOU! AND THEY WILL PLANT SOME EVIDENCE IF NECESSARY. YOU ARE A FOOL TO THINK THIS IS GOOD IN ANY FORM! NOW, A GUNSHOT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORM, AND IT MAY ALLOW FOR ENTRY, BUT, WHY WERE THEY THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? IF THEY WERE IN PURSUIT OF AN ARMED SUSPECT, AND HEARD A SHOT, THAT MAY BE ALLOWED EVEN UNDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, I DON’T KNOW,,, BUT FOR SURE, ANYTHING FOUND WITHOUT A WARRANT SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED IN COURT,,, NO SEARCH AND SEIZURES WITHOUT A WARRANT,, END OF STORY,,,

      • cathy w

        I AGREE,THE POLICE ,SADLY ARE Corrupt to a large degree ,they are brainwashed themselves,to believe that all are the enemy..
        this could CAUSE us to lose religious freedom in America..if they hear you,
        saying anything they DONT LIKE ,bammm your done..NO PRIVACY AT ALL

      • Barbara

        Unfortunately when the city government looks the other way the dirty cop gets away with any thing they want. I know, I live where the mayor, city council look the other way and have for decades. The police chief is in on what goes on. I know a couple of the dirty cops and have been able to figure out how they are still on the force. A now retired dirty cop is considered an up standing member of the community. He is even an elected official. Those who know the truth about him, we are told we don’t know what we are talking about.
        It only takes one dirty cop to taint the whole department, yet the good cops look the other way.

      • jibbs

        Here is a perfect example of the great job the police do, helping make you feel secure….and they need more power??

        Carter County Sheriff and Deputy Arrested On Drug Charges
        April 4th, 2011 | Author: Cathy Walters
        Carter County Sheriff Tommy Adams, 31 has been arrested on felony charges of distribution, delivery, and manufacturing or delivering a controlled substance. Adam’s arrest was the result of an investigation by the Missouri State Highway Patrol, the FBI, Missouri Attorney General’s Office, Missouri Division of Fire Safety, and the Carter County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office. The investigation in the matter is ongoing. Also charged in connection with this crime is Sheriff’s Deputy Steffanie M. Kearbey. Carter County Coroner Dennis McSpadden says Rick Stephens, a patrolman with the Van Buren Police Department has been appointed as County Chief Deputy. McSpadden says Stephens is qualified to handle the interim position. At this time, McSpadden says Adams has not yet resigned and as an elected official he is still the sheriff. McSpadden and Interim County Chief Deputy Stephens are running operations at this time, in accordance with Missouri law

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Just wait and see their surprise when he shoots THEM in the back!

      • Bell

        Barbara, We’ve had them in our town too. The time is coming when those that have always felt above the law are going to face a judgement if they don’t change. There won’t be any lawyers, judges, friends, etc, there to defend them. They will be standing alone. God already knows them and the things they have done. God has given man over 6,000 years to change and turn back to Him…I truly feel we are in the end times now and we as christans are going to have to stand up against evil by standing with God.

      • Lealand Sherman

        The prerequisit for being a police officer is: too lazy to work and too chicken to steal.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        That is uncalled for.
        There are rotten rogues in every profession.
        We need these watchman.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Our identities have been stolen by the very people who sit in the halls of government.Since you have no national identity with which to claim sovereignty,your”rights”will be subjective.They actually believe that they are the”We the people”which our forefathers spoke of,and that the rest of the public are merely their charges.They have set out to confuse us into believeing that only more rules and regulations can save us from the ones we currently have issue with.They have deliberately taught untruths in our academic institutions,so that none will have the past to contemplate historical mistakes.They give us a bland representation of the future and ask us to swallow it whole,like a horse pill of sorts.Apparently you have to give up what it is to be an American so that others in the world can move up to your station.After all collective capitalism like they are experiencing in China is good enough for Americans right?Just sell your soul to the government store,and we will all have the joy of slave wages and easy living.You can shove that where the sun never shines and if you ask me why I will tell you.The people who gave their lives so Hitler and Tojo wouldnt be running the world,wouldnt like to see us give up our grubsteak to people who had to borrow our power.Without our power Chinese would be speaking Japanese right now.Their women would be Geishas for Japanese lords.And anyone in Europe who didnt have blonde hair and blue eyes would be piled high in mass graves right about now.Do we let them steal our identities after our brave men and women gave theri all for the society we live in today?To all you out yonder who think thats allright,I have a boot full of foot for you,aimed at your backsides.-CC.

    • Jovianus

      Welcome to the Conservative version of the US. Note that almost every court ruling that intrudes upon our basic liberties are from courts which have been packed and stacked by conservative administration…be it state or federal.

      It’s not just our court system. Arizona’s law which mandates evryone pack ID wherever they go becuase they could be detained for days if they don’t have proof of citizenship on their person [not to mention the subjective nature of enforcement by a cop]. Attacking the right to colective bargain as an assembly of people. Abrogating election decisions and officals at whim replacing such with slectively chosen individuals with no ties to the community they are appointed to run without recourse by the citizens. Attacking such protectors of liberties such as the ACLU and the Southern Legal Center for Constitutional Rights.

      The list goes on and on. And so does the whining by the same radical conservatives supporting and engaged in this social engineering who proclaim they are “patriots” and “fighting for the cause”. Thing is…what cause are they fighting for?

      • Dntmkmecmoverther

        …you are not serious are you? The ACLU fighting for our freedom? Unions as a form of free speech? What friggin planet are you from? If you were a true conservative you would understand and know your enemy. You clearly do not know the enemies of freedom. Go home, break open your piggy bank and buy a clue.

      • Jovianus

        Despite the rhetoric from freeedom hating conservatives, please cite a civil liberty which the ACLU has championed against? So as to limit the lies which the wacked are about to toss out…maybe give a case name or something to identify it for a quick and easy verification ?

      • DaveH

        Shouldn’t you be doing your job, Jovianus? You’re blogging during work hours. Or is this your Job, harassing those who wish Freedom?

      • JKO

        Hows about my right to freedom of religion???? A new group had to form (ACLJ) to cover those rights.

      • Cawmun Cents

        How about freedom of religious symbols in public places,to honor our God.That would be a civil right that they have fought against on several occaisions.

      • April

        What about our rights under the Constitution to bear arms. Won’t work here in Texas. Any court ruling that goes against the Law of the Land, is a breaking of the Law in itself and must becalled out and corrected by We the People. “What did John Adams say?? Something like “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedients to GOD”.

      • S.C. Murf

        How about freedom of speech? When they tell us we can’t have God in any school system, etc. etc. etc. But whats the use trying to explain it to you, just another satanic fool destroying the very fabric of our society. You will have to stand before God on the day of judgement, no getting out of that one, and then what excuse are you going to come up with?

        up the hill
        airborne

      • jibbs

        Jovianus says:
        May 23, 2011 at 7:45 am
        Despite the rhetoric from freeedom hating conservatives, please cite a civil liberty which the ACLU has championed against? So as to limit the lies which the wacked are about to toss out…maybe give a case name or something to identify it for a quick and easy verification ?

        **********************************************************************I call, [offensive word removed]!! you have a lot of dam gall to ask for a “reference to”, or a “case name”, when you avoid the very same that you are asked to provide. Your nothing more than a multi-named Troll.
        Go spew your crap somewhere else, education is key, I’d have to say you failed in the education system.

      • independant thinker

        The aclu refuses to support or take cases defending the Second Amendment.

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Well, Jovianus, I suspect that about 98% of the people reading your mindless drivel have quickly and easily recognized you as a dangerous leftwing loonie. Crawl back under your rock. You are beyond help.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        LT Col Ray,I’ll agree with all but the dangerous part!! Dangerous to a flea possibly but a human? Nah!!! A man? NEVER!!!

      • JC

        Jovianus says:
        May 23, 2011 at 7:45 am
        Despite the rhetoric from freeedom hating conservatives,
        ________________________________________________________________
        That’s “rich”…coming from a communist.

      • joe

        The “anus” in your screen name (Jovianus) says it all.

      • DaveH

        Don’t waste your time, Dntmk, Jovianus is just here to harass us and never provides any references for his own BS.

      • pete0097

        Hey, the ACLU defended my brothers right to sit on a public bench on a public sidewalk in Pottstown PA. They took him away in a cop car to book him. I made the mistake of picking him up at the police station, he wanted me to have them deliver him back.

      • Firefly

        Many don’t realize that the ACLU was founded more than 75 years ago to help bring the fledgling world power of the USA into the fold of World Socialism. They were funded by the Soviet Union long before WWII but we grew in strength and power and prestige by winning WWII and so the ACLU has had to limit itself of chipping away at the Constitution wherever they can ever since. The are intellectual elites who favor the theories of lawlessness as espoused by Karl Marx. They are for freedom but of course there is no freedom if there is no law. They are mostly lawyers brainwashed in the formerly great schools of Harvard and Yale. Fortunately as someone has mentioned there has existed now for a couple of decades the ACLJ (The American Center for Law and Justice) which has won many cases against the bullies of the ACLU, even up to an including the Supreme Court. This is necessary because if the ACLU were to succeed in oppressing and destroying the Judeo-Christian heritage of the United States to the extent they want to do so there would be no power left sufficient to withstand Sharia Law but that may be what those behind the current ACLU are aiming for. They are haters of God, morality, and all that once made this country great. Alas, freedom has many enemies in this nation and if we do not return to the faith and fellowship of our founders, than the USA of the next generation will be unrecognizable, if there even is a USA.

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Beautifully stated, Firefly. I enjoyd the read and could not agree more.

      • BigBadJohn

        Thanks for trying to point out the truth.

        Reagan started seizure laws in the war on drugs. He made it legal to seize your home or property based on violating drug laws. The courts up held the laws that Reagan passed.

        Clinton then expanded the seizure laws for his “police on the streets” which made the police judge, jury, executioner AND beneficiary of property seizure.

        Now with these rulings, not only can they seize your property, but they can kick your door in anytime they want – just to see if they have anything against you…..

      • JKO

        While I agree with your point the truth is only Congress can make laws – at least until this president. And I do know about executive orders which are very much abused.

      • DaveH

        For those who aren’t aware of the Jovianus scam, see my comment to Jeremy. He (they) are just here to mess with us.

      • Al Sieber

        DaveH, you’re right about Jeremy and Jovi- anus, I’m trying hard to not respond to those idiots, they’re right out of George Orwell’s “1984″.

      • Al Sieber

        That would be, wrong is right, war is peace etc. those two twist things around.

      • Carlucci

        Maybe if we all just ignore them, they will all go back to HuffPo.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Al Sieber,

        You know that George Orwell was a leftwing socialist?

      • Richard Pawley

        Even the Bible says that in the last days that which is evil will be considered good, and that which is good will be considered evil. Although we don’t know how long the “last days” will last, researchers using the Bible Code software have uncovered that the “last days” began not when Israel was reestablished, fulfilling an ancient thousands-of-years-old prophecy, in 1947, but in the 1990′s, the decade when the Bible Code itself was discovered using super-computers. The Bible also speaks of a thousand years of peace, and the only way I can image that happening is if WWIII is sufficient to set us back a thousand years. It is not just our nation that is living on borrowed time (and borrowed money), but humanity itself. May God help us because the present politicians are not going to do so.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, so true and as Bob Livingston has pointed out on several occasions recently, the influx of liberal disrupter’s has increased… complete with common IP addresses. Coincidence? Not at all. It just means that the anti-American Marxist/socialist/communist progressives have taken notice and feel it necessary to fund the disruption of PLD.

      • Kate8

        Richard Pawley – It is said that we will have 1000 years of peace because those who are evil will be destroyed. Darkness cannot survive in the light.

        I suspect that there will be so few people that it will take that long for humanity to regain sufficient numbers to restart “civilization”, with the few wanting to control the many. After the 1000 years, satan will be, again, set loose for a time…

      • Christin

        Richard Pawley,
        Kate8,

        The 1000 years of peace is called the “Millenium” which will happen after the 7 year Tribulation when Jesus Christ comes back (a third time with the “Saints”… believers watching) to rid the earth of those that are evil and turned their backs of God.

        Jesus’s 2nd Coming will have happened just prior to the Tribulation. He will be in the Clouds (NOT ON LAND… that is how you know it is not Him if someone claims to be Jesus on land.)and He will call His Bride Groom -the Believers in Christ- in what is known as the Rapture.

        “Better get ready, Jesus is coming, to take from this earth His own”
        Crystal Lewis

        After both of those events happen then comes the “Great White Throne of Judgement” where we go before God to be held accountable for our sins. Those that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior have been forgiven and are free… those that have not will not be free.
        During this time, which is three years, satan is turned loose. (I’m not sure why God does this, but we will find out one day.) I don’t know if their will be more people or if their will be marriages and children or not.

        Then comes the time period called “The New Heaven and Earth” where we live for eternity… if you are in Christ… those that have not gotten the blood of Jesus to attone for their sins will suffer in Hell. (sorry, but that is God’s way as stated in the Bible… I know some will take offence, but that is the truth.)
        Revelation and Daniel [Bible]

      • Al Sieber

        coal miner, yes I do, I have a lot of his books. this is the kind of world he wanted.

      • Allan Halbert

        What’s with all the rambling? Intrusion upon basic liberties is the issue here. We don’t give a damn which party those intrusive judges identify with.

      • steve in AZ

        Agreed, wholeheartedly, Allan. One thing we know for sure – no matter which party infringes on our rights, the other party will preserve that infringement. An uninformed and unarmed public is exactly what the powers that be want to achieve and maintain.

        Otherwise, one congress or another would have repealed the Patriot Act.

      • Carlucci

        Steve, Thank you for bringing up the so called “Patriot Act”. I just got an email from Campaign for Liberty this morning. There will be a critical cloture vote on renewing the Patriot Act today at 5:00 p.m. EST in the Senate. Call your Senators and tell them to vote against renewing the “Patriot” Act on every vote – including each cloture vote.

        Here’s a link for more info: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

        I just got off the phone with the offices of both of my “reps”. When you call, give the staff member your name and zip code, and tell them you are making a note of the date, and time of the call, and their name.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Carlucci,
        This is the reason I will not vote for my congress person again! He supports this madening bill!!

      • JC

        And the Senate voted to extend the Patriot Act.
        At least they could rename it to reflect what it really is…
        “The Police State Act”

      • chucky

        Jovianus We are talking about LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS rights,Not Illegal law breakers rights. Collective bargain all you want,but the system of legal bribery contributing big money and votes to the guy on the other side of the table negociating the new contract is not representing the taxpayers best interests, but his own political interests and threats of if you do not give sweetheart deal and sign,we will throw our money and support to another candidate(gun to the head negociation)Elections? can you say Al Franken?LOL,Can you say Wisconsin Democrats running for another state to avoid the democratic process only because they do not agree? The cause is simple: All laws on the books to be enforced not just choose the ones you like to enforce,and the ones you do not like turn a blind eye to.Constitutional law being practiced in our court system and not a “what I feel personally or politically” judgements from judges that have been plaguing and tying up our justice system for years.Closing and enforcing our southern border where there have been over 1 million murders, rapes and sexual assaults on women(google it) by illegals in all 50 states(latest stat 12 Americans a day die at the hands of an illegal), Fiscal responable government,and Corporations and banks who mis-manage go under instead of getting bailed out.(thats why they call it capitolism, if you mis manage your company,someone will come in and buyout the company at a bargain price(not government) and try to turn it around.(did not want the failing bank books exposed or financial institutions records exposed to show the fraud) Is that enough of a explaination of what we are fighting for?

      • jibbs

        Once again, no research before running your mouth…did you foget the two judges on the bench by nobama? your just stupid! And the fact that he is giving OUR money to the Irish to bailout their country!

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Jovianus,

        For the concept of swing vote to make sense, one needs to know the divisions on the Court. The Supreme Court is generally divided into two wings: liberal and conservative. The liberal justices are Stephen Gerald Breyer (1994), Ruth Bader Ginsburg (1993), David Souter (1990), and John Paul Stevens (1975). Conservatives: Anthony McLeod Kennedy (1988), John G. Roberts, Jr. (2005), Antonin Scalia (1986), and Clarence Thomas (1991).
        About.com:

      • JeffH

        Sotomayor, Kagan?

      • Al Sieber

        Yo-Anus, I live in Ariz. and your a liar, they don’t detain you, matter of fact they let the illegals go, they have more rights then the citizens. ask any Ariz. cop. why do you twist everything around to suit yourself? every thing you say is a crock of $hit, do some research for a change.

    • icetrout

      Communist take-over of America is nearing a completion. Police = Working welfare for Military Veterans.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy,
      Bugger off. The jig is up. You are a schizophrenic fraud.
      For those who don’t know, Bob Livingston revealed that Jeremy, Jovianus, HFlashman, and several others all have the same IP address.
      Jeremy claims he is a college student, but no college student would be as resistent to learning as Jeremy is. He (they) are here simply to impede the progress to Freedom.

      • jibbs

        DaveH says:
        May 23, 2011 at 7:46 am
        Jeremy,
        Bugger off. The jig is up. You are a schizophrenic fraud.
        For those who don’t know, Bob Livingston revealed that Jeremy, Jovianus, HFlashman, and several others all have the same IP address.
        Jeremy claims he is a college student, but no college student would be as resistent to learning as Jeremy is. He (they) are here simply to impede the progress to Freedom.
        **********************************************************************
        Well, Bob Livingston, is that true ??

      • libertytrain

        These events occurred about a week or two ago, the posts are there on threads. I think Bob Livingston had wasted enough of his time on those silly folks. Dave’s post said it all.

      • JeffH

        I concur.

      • DaveH
      • jibbs

        Bob Livingston says:
        May 16, 2011 at 9:21 am
        Dear Jovianus,

        Or is it Jeremy Leochner, Mick, G.Lewis, Sutekh, Rachel, rollin, Steve or HFlashman? It’s difficult to keep up with exactly who you are at any given moment.

        Thanks for your “astute” analysis, lacking substance but not lacking left-wing buzzwords nor spelling errors.

        Good day to your many personalities,
        Bob
        *********************************************************************** Thanks for the link DaveH, I must have missed that one. I thought I would repost that tidbit for joviazz.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear jibbs,

        Yes.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • karolyn

        This still does not explain how Mick’s name got in with the others. She has been a regular contributor to the conservative view here; and many have stood behind her claim to be who she is – “Mick the chick.” I hold that these people are not all the same person. Do you really believe that this site is that important as to be the butt of a conspiracy?

      • Kate8

        karolyn – Actually, that was discussed. There has been a ‘mick’ and a Mick’ posting here.

        When I first began reading ‘Mick’s” posts, I was surprised because I recalled ‘mick’ as being another leftist loon, and ‘Mick’ was not.

      • Carlucci

        I wonder if she (Mick the Chick) can change her handle to MtC on this board. Maybe that would clear up the confusion.

      • karolyn

        I see.

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – If one is going to use a relatively common monker, it makes sense to add a distinguishing character.

        There was another Kate awhile back, and I was glad I had it.

      • Kate8

        moniker. Need to clean the keyboard.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Kate8,
        Actually, Monker would go real well with some of the progs that Time calls Monkeys, here!!!!!LOL!!

      • independant thinker

        karolyn there were two micks posting for a time one always supported flashman, jovi, eddie, etc. and the one who responded to Bob’s post about the ones who had the same IP address.

    • PatHenry52

      Jeremy, first off, “if they smell marijuana” makes an assumption I contest – that gov’t can tell you, as an Adult citizen, what you can and cannot put in your own body.

      Beyond that, what exactly makes a police officer any different than a crack head? When someone “invites” themselves into my home, I don’t care what clothes/uniform they wear or why they have come… if my German Shepherds leave me anything, I’ll finish the job with as many rounds as it takes.

      Now granted, the police may announce themselves, and in my town, we have generally reasonable cops – some I like quite a bit – but none that may enter my house without my explicit invitation. And if they have a warrant – it better be warranted, so to speak. I trust nobody, but that doesn’t mean I’m not civil or reasonable – but the natural rights, given to us by our creator (whatever or whoever that is, follow your own beliefs and I mine) and acknowledged in our Bill of Rights, were created specifically FOR SUCH ACTION… to say the police don’t have to abide by the fourth is to destroy the exact thing the fourth was listed to prevent! Who exactly would be “searching and seizing” –except– gov’t agents!! I’m sorry, but there is no room for “probable cause” either if it doesn’t first go through a process to obtain a warrant meeting the criteria outlined. Again, that IS THE POINT OF THE WHOLE THING!!

      If that makes police work a little more trouble, so be it – I’ve never seen the slightest increase in actual safety that people claim when they want to shred the constitution, and even if I did, it’s not worth the loss of freedom. Sorry my friend, a right isn’t something you get to vote on for anyone but yourself. So give me liberty, or it’s a fight to the death – and I intend for it not to be -my- life ended in that process.

      • cathy w

        the police have been abusing OUR rights for years ,now this just gives them more power to abuse ,i know a few who are not like that ..BUT SO FEW
        NOT TO MENTION..NOW CPS /DES CHILD PREDITOR SERVICES/DEPT OF [THEIR ECONOMIC SECURITY] CAN COME IN WITH COPS .. ,just what they wanted..TRUST ME THEY ARE CORRUPT..they do what they want all the time ,you dont have to do anything wrong,just someone who dosn’t like you ,call and make a false report.. HAPPENS EVERYDAY..
        TAKE MY WORD FOR it,been there..had to file federal suit,[CORRUPT AZ]
        now we have no rights for sure..its always been that way.. now more legit..LOL

      • Jack

        I agree with you PatHenry52 the probable smell of something isn’t any reason to “TRY” to kick in my door either.I am an American Vet. and didn’t serve this country to see it go under by some Obama loving bunch of fools that think they know what’s best for me. If they hear a shot comming from my house they still need a warrant to inter or it very well might be their last shot they hear !! I stand behind the constitution and declaration of independence as it was written to prevent this sort of gov.control. This is not Russia (yet) and I’ll be damned if I’ll sit back and let it happen to me or my family! You best wake up America and get rid of these over powered fools soon or we will all be at their mercy.

      • UnrepentantCurmudgeon

        I think there’s a lot of heat about the two cases but they don’t really do anything new. The entry and search in the Barnes case (Indiana) may or may not have been valid and any evidence seized may or may not have been suppressed. That was not the issue. Nor did the Indiana court change 4th Amendment law. The Indiana court simply said that the citizen had no right to put up physical resistance even given that it was a warrantless entry. OK, someone wants to fight it out with the police on your doorstep, don’t let me stop you. But I’m not aware that the courts have ever said that it was OK for a citizen to engage in armed resistance to the police. Nothing new there.

        In the King case (SCOTUS) the police were chasing a suspected drug dealer and went the wrong way inside the apartment building. They got to a doorway where they smelled what they thought was marijuana smoke. They knocked and announced and heard noises inside the apartment, so they used the good old “destroying evidence” claim of “exigency” and went in. The suppression motion was based on a very narrow exception to the exigency exception which says that it doesn’t apply if the police themselves created the exigency; the only case in which that was applied was a case where the police had investigated for several weeks and then went to perform a warrantless search. This “exception to the exception” was on very narrow grounds. Ginsburg tried to revive it saying that the police in this case had plenty of time, but that’s not really the case since the chase was on. Again, not much new except that the “exigency” exception continues to be alive and well.

        All that said, yes Big Brother is on the march. In Lancaster CA the city now has an “eye in the sky” to roam the skies over the city taking videos of whatever is going on. And that city has a mayor who likes everyone to think he’s a conservative Republican.

      • JC

        The elected and appointed officials of our federal government take an oath of office before undertaking their constitutional duties. Let’s take a look at that oath, expressed as a question and answered by “I do.”

        Do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that you take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are about to enter: So help you God?

        In the Armed Forces EXCEPT the National Guard (Army or Air)

        I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

        In the National Guard (Army or Air)

        I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

        The common denominator here is “Foreign and Domestic”.
        It’s time to clean house as we have more Domestic enemies
        right now than we Foreign ones.

        End the Fed, Enforce the Constitution amd Fire the Kenyan out of our White House.
        And while you’re out and about…buy some serious firepower)

        Peace :)

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I agree 100%!

      • karolyn

        the police have always had the right to enter if they hear something fishy like a gunshot.

      • Cawmun Cents

        iF’N AhM A fIriN MUh gUn eEn tH’hoWsE,aH dEeZErVS TUh GiT ENturD.

      • Hicusdicus

        Amen!! brother Henry

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Kudos to you for an excellent treatise on the defense of liberty !!! I am an 88 year old geezer with close to 30 years of uniformed service in defense of our Constitution under my belt. I agree wholeheartedly with your philosophy and am still willing to lay down what’s left of my life to defend those cherished principles. I’m still quite capable of popping a cap if it becomes necessary.

      • PatHenry52

        Thank you to all those that served with pure heart (as it sounds like we have here)… I had/have very liberal parents and by the time I gained the sense to enlist I had bought a house and now hopefully there will still be an honorable military by the time I can afford to take 2.5 mths off and within the remaining window for me to enlist in the select militia (Nat’l guard), so as of yet, I remain like every other citizen, standard militia material….
        So my hat off to all you guys that served with purpose and liberty, even if the top leadership may not have been nearly so honorable… You guys are my heros and not the ones I’m worried about or describe.

      • PatHenry52

        when I describe those that I might have to repel from my property to the best of my abilities, and though I’d probably lose, at least I’d take a few of those bastards with me…

    • Wayne937

      Jeremy, I agree with you. In certain cases if you have knowledge of pending danger to a family member within a residence, you are authorized to break into a home and arrest the agressor.

    • james karalis

      Give them one inch and they well take a mile , the police are not your friend . you are a fool if you think they are there for your well being

      • DaveH

        Exactly. It’s a power trip. That’s all. The leaders are making fools of the citizens (slaves). When your life is really in danger, they will get there in time to take notes over your dead body.

      • DaveH

        For those who would like a healthy dose of reality:
        http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

      • Bleh

        Thanks for that Link.

      • DaveH
      • PatHenry52

        The Irony of the ruby ridge and waco events (I was just a kid, but I remember wondering what exactly they had done and pedophilia just didn’t hold up)… as mentioned in this article.. both happened on April 19. (The OK city bombing was tragic rather than ironic and intentionally set on the same date)

        Why is April 19 interesting as the exact date of 2 major government instigated and tyrannical acts of recent infamy? Well, it just seems like tyrants love to commit their oppressions as they did in 1775 when British soldiers marched from Boston to Lexington and Concord MA. April 19 1775, “our government” sent officials to enforce their act of gun control and to “search and seize” the private arms of regular citizens… which basically kicked off the whole American Revolution, or “The last time we had gov’t making us buy stuff, prohibited citizens from owning and carrying guns while demanding we pay massive taxation.” The only difference is that the government at the time had more respect for peoples property than the current version and the guns are more advanced.

        If you’re younger than I am, as I understand it, you probably have never heard of the shot heard round the world, beyond a stupid poem about Paul Revere that tells you nothing about -WHY- he made the ride. Apparently they don’t teach you that in school anymore… and it was barely taught when I was a kid (20 years ago)

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Beware of your local police. They are heavily armed and VERY dangerous.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Vanessa T.

      you must be absolutely nuts!!!!! you are blinded by the government how liberal can you be to think it is just ok to get rid of the 4th amendment maybe you are one of those people that wont see the truth until they knock down your door and end up hurting some one you love or arresting you for no reason what so ever because it happens multiple times a day all over the world mainly the US. they abuse there power and act like they are above the law do not be blind.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Yup. In other countries many cases they shoot you first and then do not have to admit mistakes.

        Catching on here. “I thought he was going to shoot me so I shot him back first!” And of course, the accused is not able to defend himself!

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        The police almost always win the argument. Get used to it.

    • Hicusdicus

      I would like to hear your comments after it happen to you. It has happened to me and I would say It is kin to being force-ably gang banged and left to bleed in the gutter.

    • Dagney

      Jeremy, you really need to open your eyes. Do you really think, the liberal-socialist-Nazi-Marxist elites are going to reward you for your loyalty? If you don’t see the commonality between liberals and their evil brothers, KNOW THIS: You will NOT be rewarded. Evil is evil and they do not reward their own. They know you will EXPECT a reward and you will be one of the first to be “disappeared”. Don’t say anyone did not warn you.

    • Hicusdicus

      Jeremy, You are most likely a decent person but when it comes to law enforcement you are wet behind the ears.

    • http://google gary gerke

      You my friend and all the others like you, are the problem. You somehow justify the nullification of amendments to the constitution that gives you that liberal socialist feel good today. Tomorrow when they suspend the constitution totally, you will agree that it was time.I feel sorry for you!

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Jeremy,
      I hope that you sift through some of the harsher replies to read what I have to say.
      Your first words were so true…”I dont know what to think.” I too years ago didnt know what to say about certain things. I am glad for you that you are on the fence, perhaps this really doesnt sit well in your gut. That is a good thing, and perhaps you can see this matter for what it is. Its a good thing to be confused, now just dont stop asking why questions, ask them of your congressmen, senators, local officials…You will not be a happy camper in the end. You will realize that those who protect the things you like that other dont, now have you boxed into a corner with us. Criminal how they did it, but the sooner we all reqalize to stop going after each other and that its tiome we all go after them..the better.

      • Dibon Dregon

        We Libertarians must speak up, The powers against liberty are on both sides of the isle. As we are divided they conquer. Free people defend themselves. The police are supposed to solve crimes not “serve and protect”. Samurai translated literally means servant. America must be preserved by the true patriots. No government official has the right to tell anyone anything until they have done damage to persons or property.

    • james karalis

      You sound like a boot licker Jeremy !

    • Bcorp

      They know not what they are doing. This is going to get some police officers killed. How will the homeowner know the difference between police or robbers breaking into their home. This is giving a built in excuse to shoot first for the homeowners in defense of themselves and their families.

      • Kate8

        Sounds like the PTB are attempting to escalate gun violence, right down to the law-abiding citizen in his own home and involving police.

        Adds fuel to their argument that we need to remove guns from all but police (and criminals), for our protection, of course.

        Amazing how incidents increase when Congress is ready to pass laws which remove Constitutional Rights.

        Bear in mind that NO Act of Congress or Jucicial rulings can override the Constitution, unless we allow it through our compliance.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, you just said a mouthfull…and a roundabout way to remove your ability to legally protect yourself and your property and skirt the 2nd Amendment.

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Exactly right – and exactly as it MUST be.

    • Laura

      Nazi Germany ring a bell?

      Liberals will obviously be easily led to slaughter

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Actually they will make sure that it is you and not them that is sent.

      • Christin

        Nadzieja,
        You got that Right… they will take us not them… the left will comply with the loss of freedoms, but the Right who knows the Truth will resist.

      • JC

        Hitler wiped out 6 million Jews.
        Stalin, 20 million or so Ukranians…
        Mao, countless Chinese…

        And they did this how?
        By disarming them first.

        And guess who they used to disarm everyone?

      • Kate8

        JC – Hitler wiped out 6 million Jews, and 11 million Christians (and a few others).

      • JC

        yep…”unarmed” Jews and Christians

    • refuse2lose

      These things always start out as being very innocent…. only in certain circumstances. I expect that within this year we will see police entering homes not because they “heard a gunshot”or because they saw someone enter the home…. but because they just wanted to. Bet your house on it.

    • http://fox walter

      The police hear loud talking in a house- a party, they hear a gun shot- a loud T V, they hear a baby crying- the infent is sick and is uncomfortable, they kick in your door and in a misconstrued assumption of the situation you are accosted by these officers. When you finally prove you are innocent, the damage and/or possible expenses have already been placed upon you. They walk away without so much as an oops-my bad. Don’t think you are getting anything if you must give up your freedom to recieve it. You aren’t, you are being enslaved. Wake up and resist all those that wil have you believe they know how to conduct your life better than you do.

    • http://www.reformdc.com nax777

      Gun shot is a reason to investigate but not a reason to enter.

      Sorry to keep harping on this but many continue to miss a few points, Recap;
      The US reached a zero population growth in the mid 80’s our leaders increased their yearly appetite for immigration. The legal yearly immigration rate went from 100,000 to 1,000,000. From the years 2000 to 2010 our leader’s yearly appetite for legal immigration grew to 3,000,000. At present levels the US population will swell another 130 million to 442 million by 2040! This is a very conservative estimate. US immigration rate is the sole reason for overpopulation in the US today and tomorrow!

      It is irrational to think that any nation can save more than a hand full of people from overpopulated poorer nation. Especially when most refuse to change their life style and blame the Jones’s for their plight.
      It is irrational to call mom a Nazi A. hole for giving people a ride back home to keep her home from overpopulation. It is irrational to think that any single payer social program will work best. It is irrational to think that nations can tax its way out of poverty. It is irrational to believe that a power convinced that you have nowhere else to go will do your biding.

      No one is going to stand in their way the template to convince people that a rational person is a very sick or stupid SOB must be removed first. And only you can remove yours. The misuse of Negative Theory must be taught to future generations.

      People will not take in grandma, or their disabled neighbor long enough to break the social network of chains that separate us. It does not have to come to that, yet! The working class can be forced to plan for their life without a single payer plan. We must meet with our follow citizens, listen and share ideas.

      A true Conservative and a true Liberal agree on one thing though for different reasons. Any single payer social program is a nutty idea! Now each believes that it’s not so nutty as long as their side is managing it.

      We can destroy their power by replacing them with citizens that can be immediately removed by citizens should they grow a greedy bone and never serve for a life time. We must take control ourselves. Please join with us at Goooh.com you might be able to click on my name. This will take you to my link page that links to Goooh.com, NumbersUSA.com and SBA-list.org.

      P.S. Have you heard of “you cut”

      • PatHenry52

        The solution, as the Founder’s so wisely stated plainly is this —- Do not give government ANY power that you don’t absolutely have to (and by this, we’re talking military, roads, currency, etc. also wisely outlined by those that founded this great Republic, nothing more can be trusted at any high level, everything else must be state or local with the bulk being local. It’s harder to steal when they have to look you in the eye to do it…. but they’ll try!!

      • 45caliber

        Any removal of population from a third world country due to immigration elsewhere is immediately filled again by increased birth rates in that area. This has been proven again and again. So there is NO aid to any such country by taking their cast-offs.

    • http://personalliberty.com rchick

      Blah-blah. Blah-blah-blah. Blah-blah.

      Jeremy also says: ‘As long as the government gives me my money from all of those others who are earning it, I will let the government do anything it wants. I will keep my head up my behind and pretend nothing is happening. I will continue to praise the POTUS messiah and say he’s just awesome.”

      Uh, Jeremy. Can’t wait til the money runs out and to see you thrown under the bus by these democrat elites, just like they do with everyone else who has served his/her purpose and suddenly realizes they’re getting scr@wed. That will be SO funny for us to see you
      b!tch!!

      • http://personalliberty.com rchick

        Oops! Didn’t mean for my post to look like I called you a b!tch. I meant to say I can’t wait to see you crab like we’re crabbing now. My bad!

    • Handyman

      How old are you? This is America the home of the free!!!

    • Bob G

      Then you deserve to be subjugated Jeremy. I hope they kick your teeth in.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rody01961 Robert Wright

      I will make this short. I just pray it never happens in my home. If they hollow out police fine; however if someone kicks in my door they are dead. I sleep on the couach with weapons on coffee table. Am I paranoid? YES. got robbed in Scottsdale, Az. of cash and weapon which I got back five years later; for real! Robbed in my hometown at knife point by two thugs white teen-agers. Had Trans-Am stolen two times, T-Tops two times. Several break-ins in quiet community. Lady killed in parking lot at restaurant I was at. I could go on and on. I am 70 years old and I carry concealed (2). Can I shoot straight, lets say I can hit what I aim at.

      Thanks for lo

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I have to agree with you Jeremy, for the first time, believe it or not. You see, I have 3 friends who are career policemen, and good honest ones at that. I hear first hand the horror stories, of knowing the guy in the house has killed someone, or is dealing drugs, and has the drugs in there, but the law protects these scumbags, because they cant break in and get the stuff and have him, without the warrant, that might take another hour to get, then the guy is long gone. And when they do catch these scum bags, these judges and lawyers set them back on the streets in a few more hours, because their drug money buys these lawyers and judges. It is not the police I fear, it is the legal entities, the lawyers and the judges. They make the rules, and they bend the rules, and they change the rules to suit them as the game goes on. Those are the guys I fear. I know most cops hate them, because they are out there risking their lives, just so these bucket heads can get paid off by the skanks they are arresting, and set them free, undoing all the hard work the cops just did. No, I dont fear the cops. When they say stop, Ill stop. When they say they need to come in, Ill gladly open the door. I dont fear them, I have no reason to. But I dont open up, they bust down the door and arrest me, then, guess what. I go to court, in front of who? You got it. Lawyers and judges. And what do lawyers and judges want? Money. My money. Your money. All of our money. And they will get it. So, pardon me for saving my money, I will open the door, and respect these people who put their lives on the line for me and my family, and at the same time keep myself from being a monetary victim of some lawyer and judge who would like nothing more than to take some money from me. Thats how I see it. And thats how it is, I know. Ive lived it, and Ive been through it before. Thats how it is.

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