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Trumped-up?

April 13, 2011 by  

Trumped-up?

I understand that many of you want nothing better than to tell President Barack Obama, “You’re fired!” But do we really need a New York City billionaire Donald Trump to help us do it?

I fret over Trump’s motivations. He could be questioning Obama’s birth certificate to stir up publicity for himself and his TV program, “The Apprentice.” It could also be that Trump wants to create negative sentiment against conservatives by painting us as extremists. If so, then The Donald is really allied with Obama and privately wants to see him re-elected through the power of independent voters.

Before you dismiss that Trump is really an Obama ally, consider this from Brendan Coffey’s blog on Forbes.com:

“Donald Trump may be talking a game the Tea Party activists embrace, such as consistently questioning President Obama’s American birth of late, but an analysis of his political donations since 1989 show a distinct support of the Democratic Party that may not go over well should Trump be serious about running for the Republican Party nomination for President.

“According to electoral cycle donations via OpenSecrets.org which I examined this morning, Trump has donated a net $744,033 to political candidates and committees since 1989 (the extent of the online database).

Of this, $612,083 are [sic] to candidates or parties identifiable either as Republican or Democratic.

“Of that amount, $320,300 of that have [sic] been to the Democratic Party and Democratic candidates; $291,783 to Republican committees and candidates. That’s 52% of his giving to identifiable political giving to Democrats.”

Forbes’ list of some of Trump’s liberal recipients includes:

  • $20,350 to Charles Rangel, the Harlem-based Congressman
  • $9,900 to Chuck Schumer
  • $9,400 to Harry Reid
  • $9,000 to various Kennedys, mainly Ted.
  • $5,500 to John Kerry

Trump is not putting much of his money where his enormous mouth is.

Even as I was finishing up this column I found this editorial by Richard Roeper of the Chicago Sun-Times: “Having written three books and dozens of columns debunking urban legends, myths, rumors, tall tales, half-truths and general crackpottery, I’m hardly one to jump on the “Aha!” bandwagon, but I’m starting to think Donald Trump is spearheading a vast conspiracy. To get Barack Obama re-elected.”

Regardless of Trump’s motivations, I believe that the spotlight on Obama’s birthplace may hurt conservative-minded people that want to see the President defeated in 2012.

I say this even though I believe that Obama may not be a natural-born citizen as the U.S. Constitution requires. If that is true, as a person who respects the Constitution, I object wholeheartedly.

Yet as a pragmatist I fear that if we focus on Obama’s birthplace we are wasting our energies and it could cost us the election. Keep in mind it is very hard to prove a negative, and with the Ruling Elite supporting the President, I think it could be next to impossible.

Lessons From The Vince Foster Saga
Remember Vince Foster? He was Deputy White House Counsel to President Bill Clinton and a close confidant of the First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park on July 20, 1993. A three-year investigation conducted by independent counsel Kenneth Starr concluded that Foster died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. It was all very convenient for the President and the First Lady because Foster knew the deepest secrets of the Clinton’s not-so-blind trust, as well as the truth behind Whitewater.

The ruling of suicide was made despite the fact that one witness, Patrick Knowlton, entered Fort Marcy Park approximately 70 minutes before Foster’s body was discovered. Evidence shows that Foster was already dead at that time. Knowlton saw two vehicles in the parking lot, neither of which matched the description of Vince Foster’s 1989 silver Honda.

There were many other inconsistencies with the suicide finding and I remember I was outraged that more was not done. At the time, I was publishing an investment letter and President Clinton was coming up for re-election. I wrote about Vince Foster’s death, Whitewater and what I thought was a web of corruption and lies inside the Clinton White House. Some influential writers and broadcasters addressed the subject, all for naught. Clinton was re-elected in a landslide over Bob Dole in 1996.

Looking back, I think time and energy was wasted on what was almost impossible to prove while not enough was spent on Clinton’s blatant failings as President. Fast-forward 15 years and we have a President that takes prideful ownership of many policies that are destroying America.

A Checkered Past Since 2008
Three years ago, candidate Obama said he would fix the economy. Instead, he spent his energy on ramming Obamacare down the throats of the nation.

The President also promised to be fiscally responsible. Yet Federal spending has soared during the President’s 26 months in office as is clearly demonstrated in the chart below.

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The U.S. Treasury Department is warning that it will reach its debt limit of $14.3 trillion in mid-May unless the Federal government gets new financing.

Given Obama’s ambitions on everything from green energy to healthcare to Arab intervention, Federal spending as a percent of gross domestic product could exceed World War II levels. That could be disastrous for America for many reasons, one being if China—sitting on $1 trillion in Treasuries—starts to liquidate Treasury debt. That would send interest rates soaring (the Treasury would have to auction off debt to keep the government afloat). Instead of paying 2 percent or 3 percent yields, the Treasury would have to yield 22 percent or 23 percent.

This would devastate the bond and stock markets as well as real estate, which is still staggering from the 2008 Depression.

Then there is the dollar itself. The bear market for the greenback began in 2001 with President George W. Bush. But the decline of the dollar has been accelerated under Obama. A decade ago my Canadian Loony was worth less than 70 cents against the dollar. Today it is worth $1.05 U.S.

It could get a lot worse, said former Treasury Secretary and Secretary of State James Baker: "At some point we have to get a handle on this spending binge we’re on."

Baker, whose glory days were in the Reagan administration, added: "If the United States of America didn’t have the dollar as the de facto reserve currency of the world, we’d be Greece. I mean we are broke, bankrupt."

When one of the top American powerbrokers of the 20th Century says the country is bankrupt, that should be the headline on every newspaper in the country. Instead what is making headlines is Trump. Don’t you see? We are drowning in an ocean of debt and people like Trump are describing the water.

America is in for hard times if Obama is not defeated. And there are so many obvious reasons that he should not be re-elected.

Yours in good times and bad,

John Myers
Editor Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • ogetreal

    Ron Paul is the only one who can get this country back to the Republic it should be. He won the poll over all other Republican hopefulls at 33%. He is not afraid to stand up against the Federal Reserve and will get rid of the central banking system that is rapeing this country. We need to get rid of the Banksters. The treasury needs to start coining our own currency just as our Constitution dictates.

    • Carlucci

      You got it.

  • Pat Ricia

    This might sound silly, but my personal objections to Trump include his ridicuous hair style, bloated face, 3rd marriage to a youngster who agrees with whatever he says or does, and lastly, his in-your-face style of confrontation. I’d like our President to have tact, dignity, and honesty in his/her dealings with us and with others. The very fact that Trump gave 52% of his donations to the most outrageous liberals tells us that he is less than honest and forthright in his dealings. Further, he insists that his Companies’ bankruptcies reflect nothing about him personally, is less than truthful, and that he is unable to confront his own inadequacies. Not a good qualification for President.

    • William

      Pat you just quoted some STUPID reasons for not liking the man,what has his hair got to do with anything? bloated face??? have you paid attention to some of the fatarsed politicians sitting in washington??? remember teddy the swimmer kennedy?? what has his marriages got to do with anythin?? the man is a brilliant businesman, not a community organiser and while I have never met the man I was in one of his casinos one time when he was there and he struck me as an affable person the way he was mingling and talking with the people. workers and patrons,

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    Lets see what will happen.

  • http://www.michael-mcdermott.ws Michael McDermott

    Aren’t we all under the highest scrutiny when looking for a job? Why not shouldn’t the person that is going to be PRESIDENT? or for this fact, IS PRESIDENT. When I applied for a job, I had to go through a BACKGROUND CHECK, CREDIT CHECK, and provide ALL DOCUMENTS PROVING I HAVE THE RIGHT TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES. You would think that anyone running for President or who IS PRESIDENT, would have to succumb to even more scrutiny than that. If I recall my history lessons, even the parents are supposed to be citizens of the United States in order for one to be President. OBAMA’s father is some sort of Ambassador in Kenya is not even a US Citizen. Why shouldn’t we demand these things of our own leaders, since they make us go through so much scrutiny to get a job?

    As for Trump being President, he is not my first choice, due to the fact that he is again, up there with the Rockefellows, Rothchilds, etc. The Iluminati lead this country and we follow like sheep. It is the rich that run the country, and the RICH that want to get rid of middle and lower class. So when I think of TRUMP being President, I place him alongside those groups of people, however, he has reflected a good head on his shoulders when it comes to running businesses and knows that world in and out. He has helped and is for helping diversity groups and suppressed peoples and groups. He has displayed good organization and business savvy, but does just things alone make him the BEST CHOICE AS A LEADER OR PRESIDENT? Well, we shall see. But first off, our government should check out OBAMA’s background, which should have been done, BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT.

  • chucky

    From what I have heard from friends who work for Mr. Trump is he might just have proof. In 1981 Barak Obama was in Pakistan which at the time was on the u.s. expulsion list like cuba you have a u.s. passport you could not enter country. He entered with a brittish or indonesion passport.I have worked for Donald Trump in the 80′s as a casino management employee at Trump Castle(later Trump marina). I think the media hype about him casts him as an evil man but I can tell you he is a man that cares about people, strives for perfection whatever he puts his mind to, will reward you if you are an asset to the corporation, on the other hand will fire you on the spot(saw it on dozens of meetings) if you B.S. him, try to hide something from him, or just not doing your job to your full potential. You will work for him,there are no check collectors working for him. The energy he brings to a board room,energize the people in it and his general approach to succeed is amazing to watch. He just might be the force needed to turn America around. Alot of people think that he has ties to wall street and will give the financial district a pass to keep on stealing.I doubt it he is the big ego needed to clash with the egos on wall street. If you want the borders closed and a level playing field for American businesses to compete with the emerging foreign competition this is your canidate. you should support Donald Trump because imagine the bully pulpit he will run this country from,which is sorely needed. I believe that Donald Trump will turn things around in 4 years more than any canidate in the field

  • William

    Mick. you can get along with unions and union members without standing with either one, I used to work for a company that was unionised. I refused to join the union. I still had a hell of a lot of friends there, when I decided to quit and join the Air Force the superintendant begged me to stay. as did a lot of the other people there, I still have a lot of friends who are union members. but I damned sure dont have to vote for any union person nor will I knowingly,

    • Mick

      William..

      I agree that you can get along with some union members some just go with the flow to keep their jobs and after awhile many turn to the unions way of thinking, unions like democrats have a way of painting a rosy picture but do not warn the people of the thorns coming with it,,
      I applied for a job in Missouri in 1994 and was told that if I didn’t join the union I could not get the job, I caved and regretted it ever since, I lasted until 1996 and could no longer stomach their practices so I quit…….

      • William

        Mick I fully understand. I too have known some union people who I would shoot quicker than I would a snake But I am fortunate enough to live in a right to work state. THANK GOD for that. there are lots of unions around here too. untill my retirement I was an over the road truck driver. non union. many of my friends drove for union companys. roadway yellow Maclean pilot ABF and so on. I drove for Old Dominion and it was a damned good company with very good benifits and very good people in supervision,

      • Mick

        William says:
        April 13, 2011 at 8:20 am
        Mick I fully understand. I too have known some union people who I would shoot quicker than I would a snake But I am fortunate enough to live in a right to work state. THANK GOD for that. there are lots of unions around here too. untill my retirement I was an over the road truck driver. non union. many of my friends drove for union companys. roadway yellow Maclean pilot ABF and so on. I drove for Old Dominion and it was a damned good company with very good benifits and very good people in supervision,

        ************************
        William,,,I am glad that you had the chance to work for such good company, good for you but there were good company which have been destroy by unions and as the result we have worse companies now than good, the fault lies directly on employees always wanting more and the greedy unions over willing to oblige. It’s a true shame ….

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree. I worked in unions for 13 years, and have been out of them for 14 now, much to the better, thank you. But I have many friends working in the union, and I will tell you this, its a shame but they have to lie to their union heads and co-workers, and act like they vote democrat, or they will be black balled out, and they know it. And they tell me there are many in their ranks, that have to act as if they are on the left, and that the unions send guys out prying into thier political beliefs by starting discussions quite often concerning politics. And they have seen, if anyone offers up that they are Republican or other than democrat, that they arent around very long. This is so wrong, but then again, this is your unions of today. Thuggery at its finest. I am so blessed to be away from them, and my life is much better financially since I got out.

  • Honkny Snert

    Obama and many others should be in Jail. The sooner, the better. I cant imagine anyone with a brain could have put a guy with his background, or lack of, in charge of our country We need a businessman running this Country before its too late.

    • Patrick Beatty

      Definitely agree with the “put ‘em in JAIL” sentiment.
      ALL of them. Starting with our “Disaster-in-Chief”.

      And, the “with a brain” comment” ?
      THAT’s the key here. The way I’ve seen it, not too many democrats are suitably equipped in that department.

      Most (if not ALL) seem to be more concerned with how much they can SUCK off the “federal TEET”, than have ANY concern – whatsoever – with the overall welfare of the country.

      Trust me, I’m in FULL agreement with FAIR taxation, but I have a BIG problem with paying for the Welfare, Unemployment, and Food Stamps issued to a fat, waddling, pregnant… person… that I see getting into her Cadillac ESCALADE, after giving the cashiers, and everybody else in the store “Holy Hell” for not “acknowledging her particular B1tch that day”.

      There’s just WAY too many BUMS – many of which are ILLEGAL aliens, no less – we’re having to finance these days. And, it’s HIGH time that we acknowledge that basic fact.

      I just wonder how many BILLIONS we’re squandering paying for no-loads not even willing to GET a JOB !

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    Trump is a red herring the media is trying to portray as the front runner. They are trying to chose the Republican Nomination just like they did for John McCain. It worked once, more than like the dupes will for for it again.

    • Mick

      Dan says:
      April 13, 2011 at 7:41 am
      Trump is a red herring the media is trying to portray as the front runner. They are trying to chose the Republican Nomination just like they did for John McCain. It worked once, more than like the dupes will for for it again.
      ************************
      Dan …I think you have touched on something there !
      I wasn’t comfortable with McCain and with ood reasons, look what we winded up with………

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yes, something was wrong there. In a day and age where people are sick of career politicians, why on earth would have the Republicans ran 150 year old John McCain for president? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Palin-McCain would have fared much better than McCain-Palin. They tried to blame it on her, but we all know it was him as the reason they didnt win. Many Republicans stayed home, because they werent going to vote for him. I know, I almost did myself, but realizing who we were running against, I got out and voted. Those who didnt vote, dont complain, you have no say so. Those of us who did vote, we have the right to complain about this loser in power now.

    • William

      Dan the media and oprah winfry worked over time on getting the phony elected who is disgracing the whitehouse and the country, I think Donald Trump just might be the very thing we need. he damned sure cant screw up any worse than obummer the great faker has, I am sure james earl carter is the happiest man in the world now just knowing some one came along and screwed things up far worse than he did,

    • Nancy

      I’m wondering if he’s a red herring put out there by the GOP to deflect attention away from speculating which GOP candidates will be running. Trump doesn’t mind asking the controversial questions that other candidates cannot or will not ask. Whoever is nominated by the GOP won’t be tainted by Trump’s “showmanship”. I personally hope he does find the evidence that Obama is not a naturalized citizen. That will make him an illegal president, and Trump will have served his purpose.

  • Ajfrench

    Evidently we do. Afterall, the ones in there now aren’t listening. They perceive the people as stupid and lacking in understanding how things work. We do and we don’t like what we are seeing.

  • Jane Lane

    Donald Trump for President? Sure he is a businessman, who borrows from the big banks. We already have lots of people in Washington who know how to BORROW. That is the problem. The only way the finances of this nation can be fixed is to get rid of the FEDERAL RESERVE bank. For those who do not know, and I hope there are not many left who do not:
    the Federal Reserve Bank is PRIVATELY owned by an international banking cartel. In a deceitful coup, they tricked our government into letting them print and control our currency and then LOAN it back to us at whatever interest they want. According to the Constitution, Congress is supposed to issue our money. No matter who is president (and that is another subject), we will always be under the control of the international banksters until we get rid of the Federal Reserve Bank.
    some suggestions: read The Creature From Jekyll Island .
    watch: The Secret of Oz, Fiat Empire, The Money Masters
    We as a nation have been in deep doodoo since 1913.
    Time to stop the insanity.
    http://www.revolutionrequired.com

    • James in NY

      “We as a nation have been in deep doodoo since 1913.
      Time to stop the insanity.” Best laugh of the morning so far. One would think after almost 100 years we would be a nothing nation by now. We are still the richest and most powerful nation on earth. Get some more coffee you conspiracy nut case.

      • Vigilant

        Yes, James, laugh all the way to your grave. One doesn’t need to be a conspiracy theorist to recognize the damage done to our financial health by the Federal Reserve. The printing of fiat money is destroying this nation as we speak. Take an Economics 101 course, idiot!

        When the chickens come home to roost, the chicken house itself will have burned down.

      • Old Dog

        Vigilant you said it!!!! Tell that nut case

      • JeffH

        James in NY, coming from a man that has put “NY” in his “name”, you’ve mention 1913 and conspiracy in the same comment. Who’s the real nut again?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        James, you are aware we have been around more than 100 years dont you? I mean the bi-centennial was in 1976, and that was 200 years. Are you are aware that we are quickly heading the way of not being the most powerful nation in the world, and we already are not the most successful anymore, that would be China. And if not, then why do we owe them billions of dollars? We are on our way out, and it has nothing to do with any conspiracy. It has to do with our running away from God. He is slowly but surely lifting His hand of blessings on us, as we drift further and further from Him. And even now, the party that has the clearest goals for us, the Libertarians, are based on an atheistic society, where we are basically our own gods. And you expect God to bless us still? I dont, and as I look around me, I see a nation falling apart, more and more day by day. And soon, we will be no more. Its coming, and short of coming back to God, there isnt a think we can do about it.

    • Disgusted

      You are spot on. The Federal Reserve is the anchor chained to our nations leg and it is dragging us to the bottom of the ocean!

    • Old Dog

      Agree with Jane Lane

  • Jovianus

    the circus continues. Instead of taking on the GOP policies of ripping out core programs designed for America’s youth, poor and middle class … Trunmp, Bachman, Palin, etc focus on non-issues designed to gather the Far Right wing christian conservatives onto the bandwagon (since renamed the Tea Party, aka American Taliban.)

    Romeny is forced to run away from his successful health care programs he worked in partnership with both parties in getting into Mass. Law, Gingrich has had more wives than most GOPers can count, Pawlenty plays to the audience (when not putting them to sleep). Did I miss anyone?

    Here’s a good item for people to consider… can anyone name a proposed GOP cut that does not affect the youth, poor or middle class? Can anyone name a proposed GOP cut that negatively affects corporate welfare, the military or the wealthy?

    Who do they represent? You? Think about that.

    • Dagney

      If the government would get the hell out of the way and stop picking winners and losers and purposefully attempting to DESTROY America, the youth, the poor, and the middle class would be able to find decent jobs to take care of themselves, thank you very much. Democrat entitlement policies is what brought us to the brink of bankruptcy and if you deny that, you don’t live in reality. Yes, some elitist and career politician republicans are just as guilty. The main problems that we’ve had in this country is the disresect and plain ignoring of our Declaration of Indpendence and the Constitution. Everytime “the people” vote for one cent of more taxes to give to these criminals, they are giving up their freedoms. Anyone who will adhere to those genius documents, even Trump if it comes to that, has my vote. Whoever, gets the Republican nomination, in the end, will get my vote. Though, I would prefer someone like Herman Cain, or, if he should choose to win, my hero, Allen West. But, if the nomination should go to the fake evangelist, Huckabee or “Mr. Hair” Romney, I would vote for either of them, too. The truth of the matter is, this country cannot stand any more America-hating Democrat policies and they must be rooted out! So, in the end, I will hold my nose and vote for ANY anti-Obama.

      Trump’s political giving records don’t bother me. He’s given pretty evenly to both parties as a business man. Business men have different priorities. I’m a realist, and don’t expect perfection because none exists. However, I WILL NOT vote for evil and EVIL is what is embodies the Democrat party AND thier policies!

      • William

        so very well put Dagney. I agree 110%,

      • steve

        Hey, all – Atlas Shrugged is to debut, appropriately, on tax day, April 15th, this year, in some cities.

        Vote Ron Paul.

    • William

      you sound just like a wellfare case. a flaming liberal and an obummer supporter,

      • Jovianus

        William..I am a supporter of this administration because with the cards dealt to him by the past administration and GOP policies sending us to ruin, he’s done a fine job. Has a few areas where I disagree, but he’s pulled us from the brink and moving forward.

        Problem is the extremist elements won’t look at facts. Even they would shudder if anything close to what they espouse came to fruition…including the acked out interpretation of what the “Founding Fathers’ meant. One issue they have to face is when they refer to the Founding fathers…they can’t tell you. Even “Founding Fathers’ is made up fiction in thier sick and twisted minds.

      • Bruce D.

        The fact is we are bankrupted and it is one fact Marxists do not like to look at. It did not help that Obama has started another war which has already cost 240 billion without any end in sight to the money that will be poured into Libya. You complain about cutting 61 billion. You have lost touch with reality Jovianus. It is easy to do when it is other peoples money you are spending.

      • Jovianus

        Why are we bankrupt? Seriously…give it thought. We gave the wealthy special tax brackets lowering their already absurdly low rates, we increaed corproate tax breaks and subsidies, we had two unfunded wars by Bush, and he slammed through unfunded mandates which are now requiring to be paid.

        OK..so reverse everything the former administration pushed into law and policy, reverse the absurd deregulation of the finance and insurance industry he foisted upon us, and get rid of those special tax brackets for the wealthy. Take away corporate subsidies as well.

        Voila ! No more problem with budget deficits.

        If corporations are reporting record profits, and the wealthy are reporting a greater share of wealth…why do they need help via more tax breaks and more subsidies?

        Now we have two great quotes by the GOP…one is calling for Obama to show more leaderhsip…guess becasue the party of No can’t lead or propose anything of substance other than slamming the youth, the poor, and the middle class eh/ The other is…and ya gotta love it…after citing what he said were facts (i.e. using numbers and stats)…Sen John Kyl, R-Ariz issue the following:

        “My remark was not intended to be a factual statement’

        LOL…uh huh…now THAt is the GOP slogan !

      • Bruce D.

        I guess Jovianus that Obama spending over 5 trillion dollars in the last three years has nothing to do with the problem.

      • Jovianus

        Ummm… and what was his inherited budgets? Bush’s last budget, the 2009 budget…was not Pres. Obama’s. Obama increased the budget by 20%…and that included the stimulus package and the bail out of the AMERICAN auto industry. He’s gotten the banks to pay back TARP, and we’ve been repaid on the auto bailout…both at a profit to us.

        You must be a fan of John Kyl….you don’t mean what you say as a factual statement.

        Now…as to what i was stating in reversing the Bush economic programs which drove us to these depths … you don’t agree?

      • Brad

        Hey Ainus,

        Since 07 when the “RATS” tooks control of congress, the national deficit has gone from 10.5 trillion to 14.28 trillion today. That’s your answer, you need to talk to the DNC and ask them why they are spending a dollar in income tax and topping it off with an extra 40 cents in deficit spending? When you can can answer that question, maybe just maybe the congress can balance the budget and start paying down on the deficit.

      • Old Dog

        I agree with you- And I also think that we should not meddle in other countries!!!! Those people have a very different way of thinking and it will not be easy to adapt to western ways- no matter what the say now- the novelty will wear off- People tends to follow others without really knowing what the outcome will be- and when REALITY set in -it will not be a pretty picture!!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Jovi-Anus – do you really think all the banks paid back all that money and that GM and Chrysler really paid back all those billions? If you do, I have some ocean front property Ill sell you for 100 grand an acre here in Indiana. Wow, are you kidding me. You really believe that?

      • Thamera

        “acked out interpretation of the constitution?” Perhaps you could define acked? lol You really think that most posters on this forum can’t define founding fathers or know who they are? You sir, are laughable and obviously the one that has trouble with the constitution along with the founders of it. As such, it is difficult to lend you any credibility.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        jovi,
        yup he’s heading foreward, goose stepping all the way, and just today said the very thing we said he would. RAISE TAXES!!!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If you call what obama has done a fine job, then you must think Carter was terrific. You are so far removed from the truth, Im not sure its save for you to be in the free public moving around.

    • Conservative at Birth

      By Corporate Welfare, do you mean GE?

      • Jovianus

        Conservative…GE is one. They do not stand alone.

      • Bruce D.

        Planned Parenthood is another. NPR would be another. Soros would be another with connections to the billion(s) loaned to the Brazil oil company. Now we find that Google is filled with political corruption and has infiltrated the Obama Whitehouse. Also the billions Obama has given to corrupt Wall Street Corporations which heavily funded his campaign. I believe the Unions are corporations also and we all know the corruption involved there with the Democrat Party as one hand feeds the other. Obama is up to his neck in corporated corruption and information secrecy.

      • Jovianus

        Jeesh…PP…healthcare for woemn, youth and the poor. NPR…sure, let’s waste the information source for many of our rural Americans.

        Uh huh … sure. Jeesh …

      • Thamera

        those old talking points really get you nowhere Jovi…women’s health care, the youth, the poor…gadz do yo have any real life experience with any of the programs you speak so highly of????

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        G.E. should not even be allowed to sell anything in the United States that they are now making in other countries, employing people for 2.00 a day, and making junk. Buy any GE lightbulbs lately? They burn out every 2 weeks to a month. Junk. And they tried to bilk us all with Al Gore to make billions pitching their global warming crap trying to force us all to buy what they were selling. I wont buy any of their products. Any.

      • Dagney

        That reminds me of another thing. People who care about truth, please realize that ANYTHING the left accuses the right of doing…. that accusation is EXACTLY what they, the left, are doing or worse. It’s projection plain and simple. So, please, people, keep that in mind as the accusations fly from the left.

      • Bruce D.

        I find what you are saying to be true a lot of times. It is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with Jovianus as long as he keeps defending the spending habits of Obama and the left. He denies reality all together and so loses his credibility to debate. He just can’t find anything wrong with the way democrats spend money. He can’t even be truthful with himself and acknowledge that the war on poverty has failed and that giving money away is not and never will be the solution to poverty. It just exasperates the problem.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You nailed that one on the head. That is exactly what they do. They do something, then turn right around and point fingers at other people and blame them. Its amazing, then our liberal press backs them up and helps spread their lies with their propaganda. And unfortunately, a lot of people dont get educated and dont even know they are lying to them. Like my 86 year old dad, who doesnt get out much anymore, and believes what the newspapers tell him and the liberal news media. When I talk with him and expose them, like yesterday, when I told him how the liberal left democrats run hollywood, promote gay rights and abortions, and he ask’s me where I hear this stuff from, and why am I the only one that knows it and nobody else does. I have to tell him, that everyone knows it, except die hard democrats like him that rely on the local liberal newspapers and alphabet networks for their news. He says how he has never heard any of this. And thus it is so, with many, many left wing liberal supporters. They dont even know what their party stands for, or who they are. But we all can kind of thank Obama, as he has brought them out of the darkness somewhat, and helped to expose them as to who they really are, and that is why over 60 of them got sent packing in 2010, with more to follow, including himself, in 2012. Boo Yah.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Successful health care program? Did you know that the medical costs in Mass. have risen at a higher rate than any other state in the nation because of the health care legislation? You call that success?

      • Jovianus

        Just looked it up. 58% approve of Mass health Care, 27% see it as a negative. Think about that next time you hear someone saying Health Care Reform sucks. As to our national health Care Reform, 52% see it as favorable, 41% view it as unfavorable.

        I supported, and still support, a Public option. That would not only drive down prices, but that freed up cost burden on business would give a jolt in the economic arm to every small buisiness and we’d bust the seams in business activity

      • steve

        Proving once again that the majority is always wrong, to quote Ibsen.

        Vote Ron Paul.

      • Vigilant

        Jovi Anus rides again: “Just looked it up. 58% approve of Mass health Care, 27% see it as a negative. Think about that next time you hear someone saying Health Care Reform sucks. As to our national health Care Reform, 52% see it as favorable, 41% view it as unfavorable.”

        As I commented to jopa yesterday, your postings are comic relief, always good for a belly laugh. To paraphrase Dean Koontz, your utterings are the philosophy of Marx/Engels filtered through the lens of Abbott and Costello.

        You need to stop reading Huffpost and other leftist propaganda sites. How about http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/04/poll-romneycare-is-not-working-in.html , posted on April 7th:

        “Mitt Romney and his supporters have been telling us for two years that RomneyCare is popular with Massachusetts residents. While that may have been true in the past, it appears as though public support for the plan has eroded significantly.

        Health care and Mitt Romney

        Massachusetts health care was seen as working by 38 percent of registered voters, while just under half (49 percent) said it is not working, and 13 percent were undecided. Asked if Mitt Romney’s role in health care here would help or hurt his presidential campaign, 54 percent of voters said it would hurt; 22 percent felt it would help; and 22 percent were undecided.

        “Health care continues to define Mitt Romney and weigh down his presidential campaign like an iron stethoscope,” said Paleologos.

        Methodology

        The statewide survey of 500 Massachusetts likely voters was conducted April 3-5, 2011. The margin of error is +/-4.4 percent at a 95 percent level of confidence.”

        And then there’s Rasmussen on April 11th, as follows: “A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 51% of Likely Voters at least somewhat favor repeal of the health care law, including 41% who Strongly Favor it. Forty-one percent (41%) oppose repeal, with 28% who are Strongly Opposed.”

        Wake up and smell the tea.

      • Tom S

        JOV conveniently forgets how long the dems have been controlling the purse strings in Congress, even under Bush. I’m not narrow minded enough to say the Republicans are saints, they’re not. BOTH parties have raped this country and stolen from the Social Security trust. The problem I see with the dumbocrats is they want to give this country away to minorities whether they’re her illegally or not. Their social programs have gone a long way to destroy this economy.

      • JeffH

        Vigilant, why do you always ruins the commies day?
        Because you can! LMAO!

      • Thamera

        Correct as usual Viglant :D

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Now that Romney can see it first hand, and that it doesnt work, and that people dont want it, just might make him better at what he does. Massachusetts is such a mess, and it is wholly owned and run by the MOB. Nothing gets done there unless they say so, and if they wanted this health care thing, it was getting passed. And you can bet some of their cohorts are cashing in on it. And such will be on the national level if it gets set up. Democratic run insurance companies will be cleaning up, and funneling the profits to the democrats, so that they can buy more and more elections. Ill guarantee it.

    • Vigilant

      Jovi Anus once again proves his ignorance: “Romeny [sic] is forced to run away from his successful health care programs he worked in partnership with both parties in getting into Mass. Law”

      What world do you live in? Anyone who would categorize Massachusetts’ health care system as a success is positively balmy. Hint to the intellectually challenged: politicians don’t run away from successful programs.

    • fixr

      You missed Palin! What negativity do you have toward her?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That she is hot. Jovi-Anus will somehow try to make that a negative, because that is how he rolls.

    • Thamera

      Jovi, I’m going to guess that you don’t work for any of the so-called successful programs that you hold in such high esteem for the middle-class, poor, the youth….I am in the THICK of it and if you can’t see the abuse, waste and fraud then you are indeed turning a blind eye…not to mention those same programs are largely unconstitutional!

      • JeffH

        Thamera, I honestly think jovi gets paid to say the things he says. Nobody could be that consistently…well, you get the gist of it!

      • Thamera

        *sigh* I do :(

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your right Jeff, Jovi-Anus is a plant. There is no way any human being could possible be that stupid and out of touch with reality. Its a plant by the libs for their own laughs. I know he makes me laugh also. Its almost like listening to Beevis and Butthead in the same guy.

  • Polski

    You inflicted Dubya on us, so even though Obama is terrible, republicans are horrible. Trump’s giving to democrats and republicans is pretty even. There were a lot of mysterious things during the Clinton years, and they should have been investigated more. Of course, Dubya-Cheney are serial killers, Iraq is much worse than the Green River killer.

    • http://naver samurai

      Bush, baaaaa! Iraq, baaaaa! Chaaaaange! Why do you libs always bring up Bush when the POTUS is Obama bin Laden? Obama ought to be thoroughly investigated on all fronts, tried, and imprisoned for falsifying records and for vioating the Constitution that he swore to uphold and protect. Get off of the kool aid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • William

        AMEN samurai,

      • Jovianus

        If it weren’t for Bush and the GOP policies that were pushed through those eight years of disaster, we’d not be in economic, social and international positions we are today and trying to fix the mess ….

        BTW…the two LOWEST administrations for economic growth since 1930. Want to venture a guess as to who “led” the country? If you guessed Reagan and Bush, you’d be correct.

        So tell us how those ‘conservative’ policies worked out…

      • Thamera

        Who was in control of congress JOVI??

      • Gregg Jackson

        Six years of republican congressional control (2001-2007) and you blame Bush’s inability to use a veto pen for the economic collapse? Couldn’t W man-up to Nancy-pants?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Lets see Jovi-Anus. Under Bush, employment was at an alltime high in this country. Under Bush, unemployment was at an all time low in this country. Under Bush, the stock market reached an all time high. Even when he left, unemployment was only 4.5%. And it wouldnt have been that high, except knowing the democrat tax monsters were coming, business started laying off and stock piling the cash to pay the incoming tax monsters. Now enter your Obamination. Gee, unemployment up over 10 percent, of course, we all know it is higher than that but the liberal news isnt going to report the truth about the left’s inadequacies. The only jobs he has created are government jobs that we all are paying for. He has lost jobs by the millions, mishandled the stopping of an oil leak, shoved an illegal health care plan down the throats of 70 percent of people that dont want it, spent more in his first 8 months more than the previous admin spent in 8 years. Escalated the war in Afghanistan when he said he was going to stop it. Entered into an illegal war in Libya without congressional approval. Expanded welfare. Expanded food stamps. Expand unemployment pay. Expanded WIC. Expanded abortions, even paying for it with our money in Third World countries. And yet, losers like you, sit there saying -Bush, Bush, Bush. Amazing. Simply amazing. Jovi Anus, get in touch with reality pal.

      • steve

        Okay, JOV- you win the award for the most clueless. lol

        Vote Ron Paul.

      • Tom S

        You have no clue what you are talking about………….go tak another Librium and sit in the corner playing with your navel lint.

      • Tom S

        This was directed at JOV.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He obviously cannot see his belly button lint, as he has cranalanalitus.

      • Gregg Jackson

        Jovianus – your argument is correct. Unfortunately, facts don’t mean a damn thing around here.

      • Thamera

        what facts? Care to elaborate Gregg?

      • Kate8

        Sorry, Gregg, but what you view as “facts”, we recognize as nothing but liberal talking points.

        Something has to be true in order to be a fact.

      • Dan az

        Seriously Dude you and anus need to do your stinky finger painting on a liberal site where it would have more consensus of your illogical dribbel.Go shake out your diapers and refresh your thoughts of utopia on someone else, the tit is dry here.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yeah, its Bush’s fault obama has spent us into oblivion, started an illegal war in Libya without congress approving it, and that he has spend a half million in legal fee’s to keep from showing his birth certificate and college papers that dont exist. Its all Bush’s fault that Michelle has spent more than any first lady in history. Its all Bush’s fault that Barack has raised unemployment from 4.5 to over 10 percent, AND RISING. Its all Bush’s fault that obama went into a back room and illegally shoved a failed health care plan down the throats of 70 percent of the population that dont want it. And to you, its probably Bush’s fault that Obama cant stop smoking. Wow. Lay off the cid dude.

      • http://naver samurai

        If your right about Reagan, moron, then why did contributions to charities go up 55% while Reagan was in office. The most under any president ever in this country. Bush’s problems were actually started by Clinton and Carter with the Fair Housing Act, the legislation dealing with home loans under Clinton, Fannie and Freddie, etc. If it was so bad, then why didn’t the libs who controlled Congress and the Senate (2007 – 2010) do something to prevent this from happening? I guess you really don’t let the truth stand in the way of a good rant. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your right about Clinton and housing thing. Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick and a few others should be in jail over that one. How they got away with it, I dont know. But Clinton did set the whole thing up, and when they collapsed the banks, there they all stood, pointing the finger at Bush who had nothing to do with it. And our liberal press again failed to do their job and truthfully report the facts. Amazing.

      • steve

        Right on!!! And Vote Ron Paul!!! :)

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its simple. The liberals have no plan or foresight, so all they have is finger pointing. Thats it. That is all they know how to do, is blame others. And they are good at it, buts thats all they offer.

  • poorman

    Thank you John all information is treasure to the uninformed,this Trump character could be promoting himself but the subject matter he has chosen is popular with some.I could care less where Obama was born.America needs a Presidential candidate first able to defeat this unamerican President.Trump promotes America first that I agree with and he at least is familiar with what makes business work,I would choose him at the primary level but we will see how things develop.

  • Mick

    I am with Claire on this one..I have been watching and listening to certain interviews and one in particular made me very uncomfortable, the fact that he said he gets along well with UNIONS, I get fidgety when I hear this word…………

  • Greyhawk

    Donald Trump For President in 2012. He is the only person in the USA today who has the courage to tell it like it is as to our foreign policies, Opec, and China and also challenges Obama in every other way. What do you folks want? Another RINO? I don’t think so. Trump sees where this nation is headed and where it is headed is going to be confiscatory taxation and endless federal regulations and expansion in size and power of the Federal Government which is the Exact Thing That Has All but Destroyed Us as a Sovereign Nation. Trump knows it is just a matter of time before this Communist Regime of Obama and the Current Congress before the Government Begins Taxing Away All Wealth and in the process, Confiscating Everybody’s Property. They are already impeding our property rights and their policies are destroying our economy and our monetary system. Trump Is The Man. Do not listen to any of these MSM RINO Supporters like is being presented in this Hit Piece by a RINO supporter. The Dog and Pony Show we just witnessed in the Budget Debate should be enough to show you that Boehner and Reid and Obama just gave us another Snow Job. Our congress is worthless and all the grappling you see on MSM and Fox is but a Dog and Pony Show and is only Produced For Public Consumption to fool the Ignorant Masses to make us believe that we have somebody fighting for us. What a joke. Trump knows it is a joke and he can and will do something about it. Join my FB cause: Donald Trump For President in 2012. Thanks Jerome Ennis—

    • Warrior

      Greyhawk,

      As long as Donald selects a serous running mate like a Chris Christie, Allen West or Michelle Bachmann, I’m on board. Otherwise it will be another Perot disaster.

      • karolyn

        Chris Christie has stated that he is in no way interested in the White House.

      • Bruce D.

        If Criss Christi is in the mix he needs to be President, not vice President.

      • Warrior

        Think 2016 my friend.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Look into Trump’s bankruptcies, then tell me how good of businessman he is. And never trust a guy with a comb over.

  • Leon Sager

    The honest plain truth is:
    Trump is the only one out of the Republican line up that possibly may beat Obama in the next Presidential Election.

    The others just don’t have what it takes to beat him.

    • Hannibal

      You could very well be correct & for the sake in the best interest of the u.s., I hope you you ARE..

    • ucm4u

      Or the money.

    • steve

      By that logic, then, we must vote for Obama if Trump doesn’t run?

      Vote your conscience – vote Ron Paul.

    • Don

      How about Trump/Palin ????

    • JeffH

      How about Paul/Bachmann?

      • Kate8

        JeffH – I think you have a winner!

      • Carlucci

        Paul/Ventura = Dream Team

      • http://deleted Claire

        Carlucci–Good choice.

      • http://naver sook young

        How about Paul/Palin? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Kate8

        sook young – Love that team, too!

      • JeffH

        OHH RAH! For God and country!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        What about Paul-Romney?

      • Dan az

        Hey Sook
        Now your talking!

      • http://naver sook young

        Thank you my friends, thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • GregS

        Excellent suggestion, Sook! You’ve got my vote!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Come on Leon, give me a break. Any of them, even old John McCain would beat him this time. You doubt that America has woken up. I dont. This guy and his party have exposed themselves as the anti-American liberals that they are, and they are leaving, just as over 60 of them left in the 2010 elections. It really doesnt matter. Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, John McCain, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, or a slew of others will beat this guy hands down. America is tired of what the dems are doing, walking off the job and acting like little kids, and passing illegal health care laws, and just doing whatever they want, including starting wars without congressional approval. They are done man, finished. Kaput. Its over for them. Watch and see.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I have to respectfully disagree. Mitch Daniels or Mitt Romney would give Obama a spanking of Reagan vs. Mondale proportion.

  • Harry Sothern

    A very insightful article by John Meyers. It certainly enlightened me with facts about Mr.Trump that I never knew. The information in it should be read by everyone.

    • Hannibal

      You made 3 statements ; 2& 1/2 with which I agree with.. The only difference is that there is no proof to Meyer’s theme.. As you said, he enlightens.. He offers an option to consider is all.. Mr. Trump did indeed contribute healthy sums to democratic endeavors however both parties did well by him.. Money talks however no solid conclusions can be drawn from the numbers indicated..

  • http://facebook Maureen

    Is there really a Politician or person out there that will
    really tell it like it is. Or tell you the whole truth. NO THERE IS
    NOT Most are for themselfs. I for one will go with Trump. He is a lot better than any of the ones we have in office now. He has proven himself a great business man. Maybe thats what we need. OBAMA certainly isn’t. He is not a Citizen of this country and should be impeached and throw in prison. If he has nothing to hide than why is he afraid to show his Birth Certicalte????? That right there tells me he is a lier and cheat. This country is going to hell like Trump said because we have people who don’t even know the History of this once Great Country. Time to get them all out and start over.

    • steve

      Vote Ron Paul.

      • DaveH

        Ditto.

      • Kate8

        Double ditto.

    • Old Dog

      I aint voting for Trump!!!

      • Dan az

        Old Dog
        Me either!Talk about digging up dirt on someone now there is a perfect example.Transparent not hardly try finding out who financed his bail outs!He is useful for one thing and thats being a thorn in bozo’s side.

  • VanZorge

    perhaps we could wait a little bit and let the campaigns develop??? prematurely jumping off or onto any one bandwagon or another seems a bit short-sighted to me. RELAX

    • Bruce D.

      I agree with you VanZorge. It is silly to start getting rid of people before they have had a chance to make their case.

  • Tim

    I believe that Trump has the motive (alterior) to get in as no.1. It would be very hard for him to do worse than Obama and that in itself is a dangerous distraction.

    He has executive experience and plenty of political savvy – enough to split the opposition to Obama even if he was genuine.

  • john realty

    at least someone is speaking out . there is an awful lot of circumstatial evidence hat he is not a anturalized citizen. There is also absolute proof, since a naturalized citizen must have parents that are citizens of the United States. Mr. obama’s father was an English citizen, therefore he cannot serve as president.

    Someone explain whay he is hiding his whole life, including passports, college records etc.

    • http://MSN.com Alice

      It is important to remove Barack Obama from his office. Obama has many wrong ideas about economy and United Stated involved in non-win war with Libya. They want keep borrowing money from China and live on debt. Many people lost their savings. We living an anarchy society with wrong President who is born in Kenya therefore he is not eligible to be in the White house. Obama committed fraud against American people.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thats because Obama has been in Chicago too long, the king of the hand-outs. Big liberal cities like that are full of government social programs and handouts to the losers that dont want to work. And people like Obama cannot see how damning that is for America. You dont give a lazy arse that wont work a free paycheck and food stamps. You kick him in the butt and tell him to get to work or go hungry. Things wont get better until they realize that.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Trump may not be the answer, but then who? Who in the Republican party can take on Obama and win? Who has what it takes to get our country back on track? Who will stand up and put America back to the powerful nation we once were? It seems that one of the issues we had the last election was coming up with a candidate to rival Obama. Will it be the same old stuff the next election?

    • CAR

      well we got another Bush coming on the way. Apparently the reps are choosing George W. Bush’s brother, i forget his name, as a presidential candidate. That might help, not!

      • Lastmanstanding

        CAR. The Bushes are the NWO. 41 said it in a speech in 91 and the planet elites spanked him. The term was never used again until lately. Do some research on who these people are…they control the Fed and most of our politicians. I am ashamed to have voted for them.

        .sonsoflibertyacademy.com Coming to the Drudge Report soon.
        dont-tread-on.me/

      • Harold Olsen

        I don’t know about anyone else, but I’ve had my fill of Bushes. I would be quite happy if I never heard their name again.

      • Carlucci

        me too.

      • DaveH

        Me three.

      • Kate8

        Same here. That goes for Cintons, too.

      • Old Dog

        Me too!!!!!!!

      • Joe

        We for sure DON’T NEED JEB BUSH…. He is married to a mexican.. that could open the flood gates even more…. we need a Patriot, someone with Ball$….

      • Bruce D.

        You are right about that issue as he has stated his support for an open border or close to it. Jeb was an able and effective governor. No doubt about that. It would be a bad idea to make him president though.

      • DaveH

        The Mexicans are not our problem. They are just a distraction (red herring) from our real problem — Gargantuan Government.
        Our Government (all levels) now spends over 39% of our GDP. Damn near half our money! That’s ridiculous. Hong Kong, a big crowded city-state, spends 17%. Singopore spends 18%. Both have robust economies. Why do we need 40%?

      • Tom S

        The dumbocrats are spending much more than that. Since bin bama was elected, the defecit has risen so high that if every American gave all the money they made to Congress, we’d still be in debt.

      • Mike in MI

        We’d still be and soon will be forever under-water-in-debt. But, everybody is so use to credit cards and other forms of debt they just think we as a nation can just declare bankruptcy and wipe it all away and start all over.
        Well won’t they all be unpeasantly surprised when they find out China isn’t a nice big fuzzy cute Panda bear – but a huge, howling, ruthless tornado that will do anything to get its way. Ask anyone who was in the Korean war. They also re-wrote and updated the book on brain-washing.
        You think you own your house? Forget it. It’s been put up as collateral on government debt. You’re a renter. That’s why they can take control of it and give it to someone else who can make more money for the city/county/state/whatever they decide to give it to.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Because we are run by lawyers, and lawyers live high off the hog, and they feel the need to spend, spend, spend, especially other peoples money. At least this country sent over 60 of them to the curb this year, and we need to do this every election until they finally understand that they work for us, not vice versa, and if they dont serve the people, the people will serve them their walking papers. America is waking up. Here in Indiana, were tired of the career politician who does nothing, and you watch us vote old Dick Lugar’s butt out of office in 2012, and its been long overdue. But like I said, people are getting tired of it and waking up, and these guys that dont do anything, are going to be voted out.

      • Carlucci

        I think they are talking about Jeb Bush, former governor of Florida.

        God help us – no more Bushes. Another Bush in the White House will take us straight to hell in a hand basket. They are part of the elites – charter members of Skull & Bones.

        Don’t vote for a dem or a rino, unless you want more of the same. Vote Libertarian.

      • Gregg Jackson

        Neil Bush? I guess if the Republicans can nominate a member of the Keating Five, maybe another beneficiary of the S&L bailout/handout can head the ticket in 2012.

        Just another example of how America’s taxpayers are a Corporate Cash Station.

    • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

      No one it seems. Very disappointing.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Where’s Duncan Hunter SR, when we need him???? Flood his son with Emails people!!! Make him try AGAIN!!!!

    • http://naver sook young

      I’d vote for Mitch Daniels, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Backman. They are very much better than Obama.

      • john c

        Lets give Ron Paul a shot. The man has great vision believes the Constitution is the law of the land. He wants secure borders and small government. He thinks the States should govern themselves and the feds responsabilities are to handle the foreign affairs. Sounds like somthing our fore fathers had in mind.

      • Lastmanstanding

        john c. The Paul’s may be our last chance to remain free.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        john c, Me thinks Ron Paul too!

      • fixr

        All of the afore mentioned candidates could and would do a wonderful job, in my estimation. The problem lies in the fact the elites don’t and/or can’t control them. And none are establishment politicians.(good old boys) That’s the frightening part to me.

      • Bruce D.

        Ron Paul had a shot is 2008. He will have another shot in 2012 if he wants it. But that is all he has is a shot, like everyone else. He needs to make his case to Indepedents before he can become a creditable canidate. The Independents play a big part in the election process and he needs to resonate with them also. Ron Paul needs to show that he can get more than 8% of the population behind him. I would vote for him but so far he has not been able to show that he is able to connect with enough people. That is something that needs to come from him.

      • DaveH

        What more proof do we need?
        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/12/ron-paul-wins-presidential-straw-poll-cpac/

        The only thing holding Ron back, is the same thing holding the Libertarian Party back — a concerted effort by the MSM to stifle their voices. The PTB’s are doing everything in their power to keep the public ignorant. But, thanks to Fox Business Channel and the Internet, the flood gates may be opening soon.

      • Kate8

        Bruce D. – I think people are wiser now than they were in ’08.

      • Bruce D.

        First of all Ron Paul has not given an indication that he wants to run. I think he would run if people sent him two million in contributions to start of his campaign. If that does not happen he won’t even run. If he does run it is still unlikely he will get more than 8% of the general population behind him even now. I do not even see his name in the polls anymore.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        john c…. It’s up to Ron Paul to get his agenda out there. Trump is all over the media. I don’t know much about Ron Paul. What I do know he sounds like a viable candidate, but if no one knows this, he won’t get far. Obama had his face everywhere. Ron Paul needs to do the same. People vote for those they think they know, or party line. Trump is making a big splash and right now until somebody better comes along I happen to like what I am hearing.

      • Gregg Jackson

        Ron’s agenda? His pro-choice, pro-gay agenda? I don’t think so…

      • DaveH

        Ron Paul believes in the right for people to control their own bodies and their own property.
        As far as his abortion stance goes, here is what Ron Paul believes (not what Gregg believes Ron Paul believes):
        http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/

      • DaveH

        Personally I think most abortions are a mistake. But ultimately it is the mother who bears the weight of the decision. The fact is that many mothers still die in childbirth (about 400 per year). Otherwise I would consider it reasonable to require that they birth their babies and then give them up for adoption if they don’t want them. But do you, who want to force your decisions on the mothers, want their deaths on your hands? If God is displeased with their actions, let God decide their punishment.

      • Carlucci

        DaveH – I just went to the link you posted. I don’t know how anyone could infer that Ron Paul is pro-abortion. He’s an obstetrician, for goodness sakes, and has delivered over 4000 babies. Gregg has got it all wrong…but that comes as no surprise as he thinks that morality can be legislated…

      • http://naver sook young

        I’ve heard of him, but don’t know much about him. If he stand for all the things you say, then I would consider voting for him, even if he ran as a third party. I vote with my conscience and not by party. Can anyone tell me a site I can find out more about him? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Dan az

        Hey Sook
        Please check out this site and look at his history this is the man and only one that stands for liberty and what the constitution stands for!
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • Kate8

        sook young – Not only that, but Ron Paul has been around for a long, long time, fighting for America, and hasn’t backed down ONE BIT. He’s held his ground against all odds.

        That says a lot. And he keeps getting re-elected to Congress.

      • http://naver sook young

        Thank you Dan az for the very interesting site. I’ll share this with my husband. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • William

        sook young anything is better than obummer,

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Amen to that.

      • wandamurline

        I am not saying this to be racist, but the GOP has to have an African American on the ticket, at least as a VP. We have a number who fit the bill and would be wonderful on the ticket. The Demorats have billed us as racists, and if we want to split the black vote in America as some will vote on skin color not matter what the character, we have to have someone who will represent all of us. I personally would like to see4 Allen West as a VP…I think he is a little new to run for president…maybe later on. Romney, Huckabee,
        Gingrich, Palin…these people simply cannot defeat Obama…you must remember we have ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC…the alphabet news medias who will collectively destroy these people. They destroyed Palin when she ran for VP, and any of the four above will get destroyed by them. We are not just fighting Obama, we are fighting the main stream liberal progressive news medias. We need strong, conservative candidates. I like Pence, but again, the news media will hurt him because of his stance on abortion. Not sure of Pawlenty or Herman Cain. There are some things in Herman Cain’s background that would be thoroughly investigated by the alpahbet news. We have to have someone fresh, that is not carrying out a lot of baggage, a conservative who believes in the constitution, and can stand his ground to Obama. I like Paul Ryan…who is super smart and can hold his own on the progressive liberal Sunday morning talk shows. Ryan and West would be a great combination.

      • Harold Olsen

        Anytime the Republicans have put black people in their administrations in positions of power, such as Condoleza Rice and Colin Powell, the left and, especially, blacks, have vilified them saying they were not true black people. The same with Hispanics in Republican administrations. No matter what the Republicans do regarding minorities they will always be vilified as racists. It’s the ONLY way the left can keep minorities from voting Republican. The left is terrified of that happening.

      • libertytrain

        “Anytime the Republicans have put black people in their administrations in positions of power, such as Condoleza Rice and Colin Powell, the left and, especially, blacks, have vilified them saying they were not true black people.”

        Ain’t that the truth.

      • DaveH

        And then there’s Alan Keyes, a staunch conservative, who has run for the Republican nomination many times, but has been basically ignored.

      • Kate8

        If a black man or woman is the most qualified for the job, I’m all for it. But ye gods, we can’t just run one because of his skin color. Look where that got us.

        We need to pick the best PERSON.

        Nothing else to be said about that.

      • Bruce D.

        Wanamurline, I like Herman Cain and Allen West a lot. They should be given consideration. I am 100% against having a token black on the ticket. We need to get past that kind of thinking.

      • Michael J.

        Bruce D,
        The first thing to do with any perspective candidate you are thinking about supporting is to search the web for any Bilderberg, Trilat or CFR affiliation.

        I like what Herman Cain has to say, Alan West sounds good and I love what Trump is doing with the BC issue. However, I am not sure any of the above is up to the task of being POTUS.

        Bachman and both Paul’s are top considerations for me because of their principles. If they or anyone like them runs and is successful, they will likely be featured in the next Zabruder film.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Wasnt Token Black a character on South Park? But I know what your saying. Judge a man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. But when 85 percent of a certain color, voted for a man of the same color, I have to see that this ideal was lost somewhere.

      • Tom S

        Bravo! You make an excellent point.

      • Gregg Jackson

        Maybe Trump will pick his buddy Charlie Rangel for VP!

      • Old Dog

        You know this is the problem with us Americans!!! Why do we have to have a African American as VP? If he fits the bill O.k. but we do not HAVE TO- What I mean is the persons who are fit to do the job is the ones that we should vote for-not the skin color-just to have people say that we are not Racists-Another thing cant we just say WE AMERICANS-why do we have to say African Americans- I think that the African Americans always refer to themselves but Why.? Arent we aLL Americans working towaRD THE SAME GOALS which means a better America?
        I vote for the person or persons who are right for the job not the skin color or because I am afraid that I will be called a racist. That is exactly what happend when we voted for Obama!!!!! I could go on but Ill stop here!!!! Thank you!!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree. That is a separatist racist thing for an American, to label themselves as something different than an American. Its racist as can be, and setting yourself apart, instead of being as one with the country. My ancestors were from Prussia, and Im sure as hell not going to insist that everyone call me a Prussian-American. No, I was born here, raised here, and live here, Im an American. Period. And I have to add this, I have been to Africa more than 95 percent of the so called African-Americans in this country. I think my white butt should be Arican-American then. But, I love this country, and I was born in America, therefore, I am, AMERICAN.

      • Bud Tugly

        Bachmann talks the talk but comes across as too ditzy to be taken seriously. If you think Palin was an easy target for comedians, wait until they start on Bachmann if she runs.

      • Kate8

        Bud – I’ve heard people say that about Bachmann (usually liberals), but I’ve never seen her act ditsy.

        My perception of her is that she is one sharp, gutsy lady. And a patriot.

      • Old Dog

        Agree-Maybe its time for a Woman Prez-

      • Bud Tugly

        turn off the sound when she is speaking and you will see what I mean – just check her body language.

      • Kate8

        In any case, I hardly think Bachmann IS ditzy. She’s actually a very accomplished woman, having run a successful business and having served as WH accountant, or something like that.

        She’s highly intelligent and she fights with dignity.

        Good grief, no one had a problem with old swivelhead. Why do the men always get a pass for any oddities.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, I’ve seen and believe the same…and she most certainly is a patriot.

      • http://naver sook young

        I agree with you Kate8! She would be a good candidate for president. The problem is that many of the liberals and the media don’t like her because she’s a strong woman. They don’t like women who live by their convictions and by the ways of God. Why? In my opinion, I thinks its because they can’t control someone like that and it scares them. I would vote for her against the current pretender we have in office now. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That is why the liberals attacked, attacked, attacked Sarah Palin. She is very intelligent. Very successful. Very good looking. And actually served her people and balanced her budget. That scared the hell out of them. And being a guy who never would have thought Id vote for a woman for president, Mrs. Palin impressed me more than any of the candidates. Look at the frenzy she caused the liberals. Heck, they sent 200 spies to Alaska to dig dirt, only to have to fabricate lies and attack her children. And she weathered the storm. The republicans fault was running McCain-Palin, instead of Palin-McCain. Had they gone that route, I dont think we would be stuck with a muslim Kenyan as president.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are right about Mitch Daniels. The guy is a businessman, a successful business man, and he has taken Indiana from bankrupt status under Governor Obannon, and brought us into having a surplus, unheard of these days. Funny thing is, all the state democrats are trying to make a plan to spend it up, you know, since its there, and he wont let them. If more of our government officials worked like this, what a wonderful country we would have again. By the way, Mitch prays and believes in God. Its good to have the boss behind you.

    • steve

      Ron Paul.

    • DaveH

      We cannot continue to put people in office who don’t really have the desire to shrink our Leviathan Government dramatically. Have you ever known a drinker or a smoker who has quit gradually? It can be done, but it is very, very unlikely.
      We need cold turkey (or at least some dramatic cutting of Big Government). As long as we put in people like Donald Trump, the Government will just keep growing. The best I could see somebody like Donald doing is to shrink it back to Bush’s days. NOT NEARLY ENOUGH! Because then the next Government Growther will come along and back up we will go.
      We need dramatic, while us old farts are still around to tell the young people how we lived just fine with half the government we have now. If we make dramatic cuts, the people would see the benefits of small government in the short time before the next election. Otherwise, they are likely to buy into the Liberal Siren Song once again, and back we go towards our eventual collapse. After the collapse it is unlikely that we will ever get the kind of Freedom back that our wise Founders tried so hard to preserve for us.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, I’m in total agreement with what you just said. This country needs a good dose of “shock and awe” to realize we can survive without government’s signature all over everything. Do not depend on the PTB in either party tp provide that. We do need “fresh” leaders who do respect the Constitution and the principles laid out by our founding fathers.

        Reference often the Mises Inst., Cato Inst., The Heritage Foundation for your information as DaveH often recommends and I think we’ll all make wiser choices for the enduring future of America.

      • JeffH

        I’d like to add the Media Research Center to that research list.

      • Kate8

        JeffH – This is slightly off-subject, but did anyone else know that our Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist?

        I never knew that, but after reading who is was and why he worded it as he did, I see it now. Interesting.

        http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin644.htm

      • JeffH

        Kate8, very interesting. Bellamy was a Christian Socialist but the Pledge of Allegiance that we learned and recited was not his exact words. It was based closely but has been modifies several times to what you and I are familiar with today. Here is a little history on it.
        http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So very true DaveH, so very true. And how many times has Trump gone bankrupt, usually with other peoples money loaned from banks. I dont think that is what we need, as that is what we have now, people spending other peoples money.

    • Kate8

      Trump is another Democrat wanting to run on a Republican ticket.

      Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?

      The biggest lesson is that there is no difference between the parties anymore. They’ll choose whichever one seems their best shot.

      In fact, I’d venture to say that there is no Republican party anymore.

      • Carlucci

        The dems and rinos – a two headed monster sharing the same body.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Who cant beat Obama. My gosh Robin, after all the damning things he has done, and his lack of listening to the people and shoving his illegal health care down the throats of 70 percent of the people that dont want it, along with his balooning the debt to record highs, to supporting illegal immigration in Arizona, and even using our tax payer money to keep it happening, and buying lawyers for caught terrorists in the war, and not speaking to the head general fighting the war for 6 weeks, then firing him for telling about it, to still not having a plan and going back on his every word, the Republicans or Libertarians can run anyone they want and beat him. I dont even think the democrats want him to run again. He has exposed them for the liberal arses they are, and he is un-electable. Totally un-electable at this point, and he just makes it worse for himself and the dumbocrats at every turn.

  • C Parrish

    trump brings a very good qualification we all need to consider; he is not a career politician. The only thing a dem & rep can agree on is they do not want a third party to share the greed, corruption and our money with. both parties have a share of the blame for the finincial mess we are in today and trump is a business man with no insider corruption and special interest money has not invested in his campain.

    • Old Dog

      So what ? he probably will make much more being in the White House and his track record?? we all like also to talk about all the other Presidents personal life what would his past life about? He might be a business man but it takes different qualifications to be a true president!!!! Thats my humble opinion!!!

    • http://www.maxzonemarketing.thecustomeradvantage.com Harold Whiteley

      YES YES YES!! right on point…!!!..:-)

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Trump is not a good business man. Many, many of ventures have gone up in smoke, and he has filed bankruptcy protection more than once. That is not a good business man. He lives on bank money. You want a good businessman running things, then vote for Mitt Romney. His track record of running things make Trump look like a girlscount when it comes to success. He even ran the Olympics flawlessly. If you want a businessman, thats the guy, not Donald Trump. He is only as good as his next loan, and we dont need that.

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    Trumps NOT the answer!_
    Its seems he’s banking alot on the Obamas BC. No one else has been able to find the truth about it so far, and constantly making it a talking point, is going no where. It’s also fairly obvious, Trump’s gonna support, who supports him. By the looks of the politicians he supported in the past, its gonna be the left. He may talk a good game, be a good business man, but bottom line he’s a money man. I agree with John and Clair, Sincerity is conveniently used when it serves a purpose, and when there isn’t a purpose its a burden.
    Buyer BEWARE!

    • Vigilant

      Angel, I believe you are 100% on the mark.

      • Pathfinder

        Angel & Vigilant : That makes three of us. The Donald is TALKING a good game. BUT, will he deliver the goods ???

    • Bear

      Angel Wannabe,
      If Trump is not the answer, who is? Another Harvard or Yale graduate? Another bum with a doctorate of jurisprudence? I think we’ve all seen how they function when in charge of our wallets. The Trump has built a billion dollar financial empire. He knows how to manage money and he knows what it takes to keep the bottom line in the black. He also knows diplomacy without yeilding a single foot of the territory he has gained. If you have watched his show, you will also know that you can expect the unexpected from him when it comes to making good chioces, and they are. I think too many of us are focused on the talkers that take no action to back up their talk. I’m ready for someone who can back up what they say and can be intimidating in the arena. Donald Trump fits that description.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Bear, Unless its Ron Paul, Palin or Huckbee, I think we’re screwed. Personally I think we’re screwed anyway. They all talk a good game, they get elected, and alls well, until the powers that be, explain just who’s calling the shots behind the scenes, then its business as usual. Thats why ya never see anything getting done, and most of what they tell us are lies. It takes a long time to see it in this realm, myself included._-But I’m skeptic, I weigh everything and hope for the best. So take my opinion for what it worth to ya.

      • DaveH

        Nooooo! Not Huckabee. He is the quintessential smooth talking politician. Just another good old boy in the Government.
        And I love Sarah Palin, but I don’t think she can do the job. Stumping for the Big Government loving John McCain was proof of that. We might have been able to get rid of that RINO if not for her support.
        Ron Paul, yes.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Daveh, as I said below, Paul Ryan, may be a force to wreckon with in time too. We need people who haven’t yet been bribed by the spoils of the Washington elite.

      • DaveH

        I’ve listened to Paul Ryan many times on Fox. I like him, but I don’t think he has the heart for the necessary Big budget cuts.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, on Ryan, we’ll see. Ryan has been talking tough for better than a year+ now and I’ve had an eye on him. I do think he is commited and tough enough. I do agree 100% with you on Huckabee though.

      • Kate8

        DaveH – I agree with you on Huckabee.

        As for Palin, I do think she is up to the job (certainly much more so than Odumbo), but she has been portrayed as a backward hick by guess who for so long that that perception of her has stuck. Too bad, because she’s one smart, tough lady. But then, that’s why she’s brought such fear to treasonous hearts.

        We need a person with a strong bearing, who can stand for America without backing down, who can defy the ridicule of the media and become only more determined…someone who actually believes in what is right to his/her core and be unafraid.

        Ron Paul definitely fits that description.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, I luv Sarah Palin and think she would do the US proud as POTUS.
        She’s already been through the “trial by fire” and has held her own quite well and she’s smart enough to hire like minded people. Unfortunately, the media has just done too much damage to her. Obviously there are still a lot of folks on both sides of the isle that still believe what they hear which doesn’t bode well for Palin. We see them on this website regularly and it’s too bad because she understands the people and this countries needs far better than anybody else in DC, with very few exceptions.

      • Carlucci

        Huckabee is a mealy mouthed jerk, and big fat rino. Can’t stand the man.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Carlucci–I agree with you concerning Huckabee. I don’t care fo him either. But what about this:

        Ron Paul/Condi Rice

        I remember someone mentioning Condi Rice awhile back. I never hear anything about Condi Rice. Wonder what she is doing now.

      • JeffH

        No Condoleezza Rice for this kid. She’s attended the Bilderbeg Conference in the past which raises a great big red flag to me. Also a point of note, both Colin Powell and Gen. Petraeus and Texas Governor Rick Perry also have attended these “secret” Bilderberg meetings.

      • Kate8

        JeffH and Claire – And don’t forget that Condi sat and lied through her teeth at the 9/11 investigative hearings.

        Nope. She’s one of THEM.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Kate8–Okay, forget Condi Rice–I’ll have to think of someone else. I wonder why we never hear one word about her. She is keeping a low profile.

      • libertytrain

        Here Claire – this was interesting – kind of an update
        http://www.hoover.org/fellows/10078

      • Pathfinder

        Perhaps we should be taking a closer at other possible candidates like Herman Cain, Allen West, & Ron Paul. It is time to break the monopoly of the democrats and the entrenched RINOs, like the “Weeper of the House. During the “budget deal” (more like a budget cave-in IMO), there were 54 freshmen who opposed the entrenched RINOs. We need to keep those 54 in office and send more like them to congress so they will have enough votes to make the changes we want.

      • Pathfinder

        Perhaps we should be taking a closer look at other possible candidates like Herman Cain, Allen West, & Ron Paul. It is time to break the monopoly of the democrats and the entrenched RINOs, like the “Weeper of the House. During the “budget deal” (more like a budget cave-in IMO), there were 54 freshmen who opposed the entrenched RINOs. We need to keep those 54 in office and send more like them to congress so they will have enough votes to make the changes we want.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I see Mitt Romney as being as qualified as any candidate out there. And his business acumen is there also. And some try to make an issue of his being a Mormon, but I say so what. Im a Christian and it isnt an issue here. Did Kennedy’s being a Catholic interfere when he was president? I dont think so.

      • Stephan F.

        Angel W:

        You put (the gorgeous) Sarah Palin and a mixed-up neo-con like Mike Huckabee in the same category as Ron Paul? Ouch! Let’s hope it was just a slip of the tongue. Best Regards.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Stephan F, I could care less what they look like male or female, as long as they got what America Needs up stairs. Sides, looks fade, wisdom & personality prevail.

      • Dan az

        Angel
        You and me both!Ron has been the only one that has not backed down on any issue and palin would make a good side kick,Her following is still large and with her attitude and pauls determination they could go far!

      • JeffH

        libertytrain, I looked at that website yesterday also. Did you notice that Rice has served as a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the Transamerica Corporation, and the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan. Pretty exclusive group I would say.

      • libertytrain

        Yes, Jeff, I did notice that.

      • Dave

        No one seems to be addressing the issue of Islam; with the exception of LtC. A. West. As in Egypt, Libya, Yemen, and elsewhere these lie in the grass waiting their opportunity – given our porous borders, our oil affiliation with Saudi Arabia, and the number of “victory” mosques,compromising “Christian” churches, and the rejection of basic Christian doctrine in many fundamental Christian circles, we are ripe for the picking as are the above countries. The vacuum created by the Muslim in the Oval Office is perfect for the infusion of Sharia Law and with it, Islam. “Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything” is as true as BHO said himself – ” those who won’t say anything often have something to hide” (my interpretation). The truth is often hidden in a flurry of words; frequently read from a teleprompter.

      • steve

        Ron Paul should be our candidate. Only neo-cons could think otherwise.Let’s get together and quit squabbling. Read Trump’s book – The Art of the Deal. He’s little better than a con-man. Which still makes him better, as a person, than Obama- who is a con-man with a Marxist agenda.

        Let’s get together behind Ron Paul as the ONLY candidate with a consistent agenda based on Constitutional principles. Vote your conscience – any other vote is the one that’s wasted. And quit the squabbling over red herrings.

      • DaveH

        But Ron Paul is too old to Command all our overseas troops acting as the World’s Policemen. Yaaaaaaaaay!
        Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul.
        Get us out of the United Nations.
        Bring our troops home.
        Eliminate the Federal Reserve.
        Eliminate the Unconstitutional Federal Government agencies (that’s most of them).
        Let’s get our Freedom back! I’m tired of jumping through ridiculous government hoops like a trained seal — Orf, Orf, Orf.
        Vote Libertarian, the only political party with the principles and the huevos to get the job done:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • Dave

        I trust you’re not married; Libertarians are ant- DOMA, as well as many of the other values resting their security in the Bill of Rights. What rests on DOMA but our nuclear family, it’s unique form and the rearing of children knowing a female mother, male father, and unmolested children who understand the opposite gender, the teaching of right and wrong, and the other core values upon which rests our fundamental values.

      • Pathfinder

        DaveH : I changed my registration to Libertarian a long time ago. (Also am still trying to get our party to drop that stupid “open borders” position.) IF the republicans have enough sense to nominate Ron Paul; they will get my vote for the first time in over a decade. I am also willing to support any true constitutionalist. BUT, I REFUSE TO SUPPORT RINOS !!! So if the leadership of the republican party does not offer a constitutionalist candidate; my campaign donations and my vote will go elsewhere.

        DON’T VOTE FOR RINOS !!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The moment the Libertarians embrace Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, I will jump on board in a milli-second. They do have a great floor plan and have set their sights on running things the right way, and getting rid of the waste and political correctness, but I do know, a government void of God, is a doomed government. Godless men are what has gotten us in this mess, lawyers all clamoring after the almighty dollar. Our moving away from God is what has made this country sink to its lowest level ever, and the more we reject Him, the more we will sink. Its just the way it is. Without His hand upon us, were toast, and our fearless leaders keep throwing him out more and more, especially on the left wing side, and even when the right is in power, the left always gets their way on evil things such as abortion and no pledge of allegiance and mentioning God. And from everything Ive read on the Libertarians, as much as I like their platform, they seem to have a distinct rejection of God, and until that is fixed, I cant get aboard.

      • Gregg Jackson

        I must say that I agree with Ron Paul on a number of economic issues including his consistent opposition to the unconstitutional Federal Reserve, both bail-outs, and the recent lifting of the debt ceiling.

        But on the major social/moral issues that under-gird any society’s economy (life and marriage), Ron Paul is as far from being an authentic pro-Personhood pro-lifer and pro-family conservative as you can get.

        The bottom line with Ron Paul is that he claims to be pro-life but believes that individual states may allow the killing of pre-born babies if the majority of voters say it’s ok even though inalienable rights may never be alienated. He also claims to be pro-traditional marriage but is on record numerous times in support of same-sex “marriage” (or as Paul himself says, “whatever they want to call it”).

        The guy who just won the Gay friendly, formerly conservative, “Conservative Political Action Conference Presidential Straw Poll for the second straight year:

        1. Denies that God says homosexuality is a sin.

        2. Supports open homosexuals in the military and repeal of “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.”

        3. Supports the “freedom philosophy” of legalizing cocaine, heroin, marijuana and all other hard drugs. “Government has no role or authority in regulating drugs.”

        4. Supports legalization of pornography and prostitution.

        5. Supports right of homosexuals to marry one another. i.e. “gay marriage.” (“Gay couples can do whatever they want.”)

        6. Is “pro-choice for states” on abortion. Individual states should be able to legalize abortion if they so choose. All pre-born babies don’t possess a God given right to their own lives which no individual state may ever violate.

        7. Supported abortion legislation regulations which have resulted in 7.4 million chemical and surgical abortions since taking office in 1997 in Congress.

        8. Doesn’t believe it’s government’s role to “legislate morality” even though all laws are based on morality.

      • DaveH

        Bottom line — Ron Paul believes in Freedom. You don’t.

      • DaveH

        In regards to the Drug Wars, one would think we would have learned from the Folly of Prohibition. One would think wrong.

      • JeffH

        DaveH says: Bottom line — Ron Paul believes in Freedom. You don’t.

        HEAR HEAR!

      • sarahb

        Thanks! You just help me make a decicion NOT to ever vote for Ron Paul. You gave me 6 good reasons and 2 questionable ones.Thanks agiain. I’ll have to do more research now!!!!

      • Carlucci

        But you really cannot legislate morality, Gregg. Not when you are dealing with human beings. Remember when the U.S. govt. attempted to do that when they instituted Prohibition? It was a colossal failure, and organized crime was rampant.

        The bottom line is that people are going to do what they are going to do, for whatever reason. History has always shown that it does not matter what kind of controls you put on people, all of the stuff you posted is still going to happen, regardless.

      • Kate8

        I believe that such issues should be personal choices, and the State should stay out of them completely, taking NO position.

        Besides, when the government gets involved in such issues, they are used as battering rams to further divide. Government has no place in setting morality standards, anyway. What a joke.

      • karolyn

        Carlucci – I might add to what you said – “So why spend all that money?” I received an email yesterday from the Drug Policy Alliance yesterday about the Fed conducting 28 raids on legitimate (in their respective states) medical marijuana sites. BTW – I also got a letter from George Soros today promoting the DPA in which he talks about being a big proponent of an “open society.”

      • DaveH

        And in poor neighborhoods, the do-gooders have created havoc. The residents see the successful drug-traders as heros and strive to emulate them.
        The drug wars are futile. They create most of the crimes attributed to drugs (due to their high cost which is in turn due to their illegality). The drug warriors use them as an excuse to trample our rights. Innocent people are caught in the middle. Oftentimes morality is sacrificed in the drug warriors’ fanatical efforts to save us from ourselves. And they enrich the worst segment of society — the drug lords. Just what we need, money is power.

      • DaveH

        In Portugal, before 2001, there were the same outcries of certain doom from do-gooders who wanted to save people from themselves and fought to keep the decriminalization from taking place:
        http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree totally with you. This living in a gray area where everything is all right as long as you dont hurt no one, is the exact games the democrats play. The family has broken down, the moral structure of this country has broken down, and without God, we are doomed as a country. And some would call this freedom, but thats a cop out. Thats like saying we shouldnt have police forces and I should be able to walk into a Walmart and take whatever I want, and if you stop me, your violating my freedom. It isnt freedom for a man to bonk a man like he would a woman. Its sexual perversion at its highest. Its sick, and yes, God did say it was an abomination to Him. If that isnt a condemnation of it, I dont know what is. But its wrong, and I know its wrong, and Im sorry, but I cant stand around like the crowd, and say a wrong is a right, because its not. Am I judging? No. God’s word has already stated that. Do I accept the gays as people? Absolutely. Actually, they are very nice people who dont harm others. But that doesnt mean I have to accept their life style, any more that I would accept the life style of a guy that gets drunk and drives his car downt he sidewalk. Its wrong, and I know its wrong, and Ill tell him its wrong. Without God were done. And thats the facts that no one can change. He will come again, and is coming again, and He will have the final say so. And im not going to be one that tells Him, “I was just trying to get along with everyone so I accepted everything they did”. Nope. There is a right and wrong, and inside, we all know it.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Kate8 says about peoples personal issues and the government should stay out. I agree, but the government has gone overboard with picking and choosing. Such as, if guys are gay, so be it. They are. But the government affords them extra care and protectionism, such as Kobe Bryant just made some gay slur to a referee, and its national news across the country, crucifying the guy. And Im not a Kobe fan. But any guy, lets take Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for instance, can go on live TV, and call white people honkies, and Jewish people heimies, and thats ok. Well, we are either free to say and do anything, or we arent. You cannot pick and choose who to side with and who not to side with, if were really free as some are claiming we should be. If you can attack and insult Christians, Catholics and Jews and Whites, then you sure as heck should be allowed to insult and attack gays, blacks and muslims as well. So if the government is going to allow us to be free, then we cannot have this political correctness, where some groups are open game, and others are untouchable. Its not right. Now Al Campanis of the L.A. Dodgers years ago, was fired because he made a statement, for better or worse, right or wrong, and said that blacks didnt have the mentality to manage. He was fired, after about 30 years with this organization. It was considered a racist thing, and he paid. But Charles Barkley, can be on live TV in an NBA broadcast, and look right at his white partner, and say “You white people are just stupid”., and thats ok. Now you tell me how this is freedom? Freedom isnt just to protect and give advantage to some, and to make open game of others. That is what is going on today. If were free, then free us all big brother, or stay out of it. And I agree the war on drugs has failed and is a big devourer of billions of dollars, as lawyers are lining their pockets with our money. And it is in their best interests to keep it illegal, or they will lose their honey pot. If it’s legal, the money goes into the tax coffers, where we all benefit. And truthfully, either way, legal or illegal, drug users are going to use and get their drugs. Again, those are just the facts. But the lawyers have this set up, and the prejudice thing set up, and the hate crimes things set up, so that guess who pockets money on all of it? Yep, the lawyers. And who runs the country? Yep, lawyers. Is it any wonder we are so screwed? But rest assurred, one day their reign will end. Maybe sooner than later.

      • Tom S

        I agree. Trump is a “Trojan Horse” for bin bama to get re-elected like Perot did for clinton, nothing more.

      • Carlucci

        And Obummer’s not a Trojan Horse? Bad news everyone, they’ve all been Trojan Horses since 1963.

        Wouldn’t everyone agree that your mind is like a parachute, and works best when opened? Check this out:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

      • DaveH

        Makes you want to salute “Sieg Heil!”, doesn’t it Carlucci?

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – Very good point.

      • Pathfinder

        steve : I too am a big fan of Ron Paul. And I will gladly support his efforts should he decide to run. However, he is NOT the ONLY good candidate out there. Herman Cain, Allen West, and numerous other true supporters of the constitution are also good prospects. I am eagerly awaiting the primaries. IF Ron Paul does well (And I hope that he does.); I will be glad to donate to his campaign and to support him with my vote. IF some other constitutionalist gets the nomination; I will gladly support that candidate. BUT, if the republican leadership tries to pawn off yet another RINO as their nominiee; they will NOT get my money nor my vote.

        DON’T VOTE FOR RINOS !!!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Bear_ I also think in time, Ryan might make a winner. Its gonna be tough call all the way around, it’ll be interesting to see what the newbies in Congress get done, or should I say, what the elitest says they are allowed to do.

      • Bud Tugly

        Ryan would be a more attractive candidate if his budget proposals were based on real math rather than voodoo economics which will be quickly discredited by the media,

      • JeffH

        Bud Tugly, discredited by the media? Voo doo economics? Do you believe the media? Have you analyzed Ryan’s plan or will it cost you some of your entitlements?

      • Bud Tugly

        I have looked at his plan. First of all he claims that it will give Americans the same health care as US government workers… UNTRUE. Government workers are covered by the government for 75% and pay the remaining 25% themselves. This is a percentage of whatever the cost may be. Ryan’s plan offers a fixed amount that does not change no matter what the real cost is. This leaves seniors, who have worked all their lives, with the prospect of paying higher and higher costs with less and less money. If this is his plan he should at least be honest about it. It leaves a very vulnerable segment of our society in a worse situation. The elderly who have led productive lives and paid their fair share of taxes all their lives should not be the ones to foot the bill.

        Read the details. Ryan’s budget also provides diminishing help help to the disabled. This is neither compassionate nora pragmatic source of revenue.

        Ryan talks the talk but the devil is in the details.

      • JeffH

        Bud Tugly, you are full of it. Can I guess that you are in favor of Obamacare? I suggest you actually educate yourself rather than try to sneak your word by…because I will verify and yes, you are still full of it.

        SUMMARY OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2012 BUDGET RESOLUTION
        http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFiles/KeyFactsSummary.pdf

      • JeffH

        Bud Tugly…and Ryan’s plan isn’t the only one out there to be considered. Sen. Rand Paul has a program that would balance the budget in five years by cutting $4 trillion — or 20 percent — off the Congressional Budget Office’s baseline. John Stossel thinks it’s a better plan.
        http://www.freedompolitics.com/articles/plan-2548-ryan-budget.html

      • Bear

        Looking at the polls, Trump is ahead of all those you listed……even Newt. I’m not set on any one person at this point but I am looking for someone who is NOT a lawyer turned politician.. Jesse Ventura said that it should never happen that people who interpret the laws be allowed to make the laws. THAT is a conflict of interests. Yet, we have over 90% of the politicians in this admisistration that are lawyers. I feel that this is the problem. I’ve never known a lawyer who understood how to manage money, run a business or tell the truth. All of those qualities should be inherent in any leader that we select to office. So, out of all the choices that we have set before us, who do you think fits the mold?

      • Skeptic Al

        Bear: “Trump… knows how to manage money and keep the bottom line in the black.” Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this the same guy that’s been bankrupt three times? Is this what you would have him do with the U.S? His M.O. seems to be to start a company, sell lots of stock and bonds, pay himself handsomely, put the money away safely somewhere, perhaps get a new wife, let the company go under, and repeat.
        Ron Paul is the only decent candidate presented here so far. Ron Paul/ Ross Perot in 2012.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        ROSS FREAKIN PEROT?!?!?!?!?!!? We been there, tried that, and nobody wanted that!!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Ron Paul to me has the same problem as Ross Perot, he comes across when speaking in public as a little whiny ass. Now dont get me wrong, I agree with almost everything he says and stands for, but he isnt the strongest of speakers and doesnt come across as strong and assured, and public perception is a lot when it comes to elections. More than it should be. People made fun of George Bush because of his pronunciation of words and his Texas accent, but it was recognized that he spoke from the heart, and not from bare words on a teleprompter like the current wanker in office. But I have talked to a lot of people when they did the debate last year, and Ron Paul failed to impress any of us, and there in I think will lie his problem, how he is perceived by the public by his looks and demeanor. It may not be right, but people are heavily swayed by that these days.

      • Bear

        So, Thomas, what’s the point exactly? Yes, Trump was on the ropes once that I know of and he did rebound. Who in the political arena has doe that for this nation? If Trump knows how to rebuild wealth, which he does, don’t you think that might be worth something as opposed to some more lawyers turned politicians who only know how to rape our Social Security, Medicare and run us deeper into debt? You are saying that Trump is a poor choice and a failure because he had financial difficulties at one point in his life. Today, he is a billionaire. By the way, do you have any idea how many times Abraham Lincoln ran for office unsuccessfully before being elected as President? Trump is a huge success today and he is the ONLY one who is pushing to get the truth about Obama’s right to occupy the oval office. Stop looking at the negatives and look at the positives from this man. He isn’t a billionaire because of some book deal he made after balling some intern while in office. He made his billions by making wise and good decisions in the realestate world. We need someone who can figure out how to create wealth and he has the track record in that department. Who else does?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No, no, no. Trump does not know how to manage money, or he wouldnt have ahd to file more than one bankruptcy. He lives and dies on banks loaning him money and banking on him. Then he runs them in the ground and lives high off the hog, files bankruptcy, then gets a new bank to back him in a new venture, and off he goes again. Thats not the kind of fiscal conservatism we need in this country. Not at all.

    • Kate8

      Angel – I think there are many who well know the truth about the BC. It’s just such a great joke on the American people, no matter which way it goes.

      It has been such a great divider. Probably beyond their wildest dreams.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kate8__ the elites are betting that the American people are so confused, that whatever the Liberal News Media feeds us, they think we’re gonna fall for again_well, maybe at one time, but more folks are more informed now, than they have been for years! STILL more folks do need to open they’re freakin’ eyes!
        Which makes me question why the Liberals that frequent this site, are on here, besides a paycheck. Certainly they can’t believe, anyone here is interested in they’re Socialist mindset or agenda?!

      • Kate8

        Angel W – Easy money.

        Some people will do anything for it.

        And I know so many people who are soooooo confused by the continual conflicting reports about EVERYTHING that they simply have closed their ears and don’t want to hear anything.

        That’s the whole idea, though, isn’t it?

    • Old Dog

      So right Angel-I see you got yr cards right!!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Old Dog_ alot of us have opened our eyes, but we need more!

    • http://www.maxzonemarketing.thecustomeradvantage.com Harold Whiteley

      …to continue my comments prior…as trump isnt any different that any of the two parties career spit tongued politicans, as they all switch parties and directions as the wind of political correctness spins them. They are like toy tops, spinning as the STRING is pulled by the REALLY IN CONTROL as their PUPPET MASTERS, thus, they all are puppets, as the US-GLOBAL Elitest, re: the one’s running the global agenda of a ONE WORLD GOV and ONE WORLD BANK,, are the one’s pulling the strings of control, greed, money-making, POWER!! Obama is a PUPPET as has been CLINTON and G. W. BUSH, as they are all members of the illuminate…ONE RULE GOV and AGNEDA!! It’s all connected like the skeleton of a skinned SNAKE, bone-joint-to bone-joint. POISON for sure!! Anti-CHRIST for sure!! Regardless their sugar-coated nice, nice, appearance..as all we can personally do is pray for Almighty God’s blessings in the form of discernment, to KNOW the differnce from the “EVIL-doers” and the “Godly-doers”…PEACE FOLKS, and GOD BLESS AMERICA and TAX PAYING AMERICANS on Main St America!!..:-)

  • http://deleted Claire

    At first, when Trump began his “campaign” I thought okay, this might work. But the longer he goes at it, the more I feel uncomfortable with this guy. Call it instinct, the good old gut feeling, or whatever, I do not think Trump is the answer. I just do not believe he is what he “seems” to be. I am inclined to agree with the statement “Trump is not putting much of his money where his enormous mouth is.” I think John Myers has hit the nail on the head. Trump does not “ooze” sincerity. There is a method to his madness.

    • njmiller

      I agree with you; however, if he does just one thing, and that is settle the issue of Barry Obama’s birth and legal name, the country will owe him big time.

      He is absolutely right! Why did Barry Obama pay more than two million dollars to hide something regarding his birth certificate. I want to know.

      Afterthought: Where is the paperwork for the name change??

      • Bruce D.

        I agree. We absolutely need to solve the issue of the birth certificate and Trump should stay on it. It is an important Constitutional issue. It is easy enough to resolve if one or more states requires that he proves he is qualified to be president. I do not understand why anyone would want to dismiss the issue. It is not the same as Vince Foster. It is very simple to prove. There should be a requirement by all states that in order to get on the ballet there should be proof of eligibility. As far as Trump goes it is no secret that he is not a true conservative but he has some good ideas and is able to put the press in their place. Right now he is winning by default. No one else seems to want it as bad as he does. It would be unforgivable if he ran as an independent. That certainly would prove he wants Obama to win.

      • herman richardson

        Very well stated, thank you Bruce D

      • http://MSN.com Alice

        It is important to remove Barack Obama from his office. Obama has many wrong ideas about economy and United Stated involved in non-win war with Libya. They want keep borrowing money from China and live on debt. Many people lost their savings. We living an anarchy society with wrong President who is born in Kenya therefore he is not eligible to be in the White house. Obama committed fraud against American people.

      • Patty

        Bruce-He says he will only run if he can run on the repub. ticket. We will see. I also saw where he has given to some pretty irreputable dems. Rangel, Biden and the like.

      • Yes We Can

        I disagree with this article.

        Everybody knows Trump’s Celebrity Apprentice show is very popular, that’s why you see a lot of famous people who were and are currently on his show, and get fired by him. Trump does not need to call attention to in “… questioning Obama’s birth certificate to stir up publicity for himself and his TV program, “The Apprentice.”” As Mr. Myers said.

        Trump asked why Obama would rather spend 2 million dollars to defend his birth certificate instead of just showing it; if he has one?

        Trump got more notoriety just for questioning Obama’s birth place, and this issue has not been resolved since before Obama was elected.

        And this is a requirement for everyone who wants to be president of this country? Anyone who loves this country would make this as an issue. George Soros’ people want to kill this issue ASAP.

        Trump is a wise business man, he donates to all parties, especially to Charles Rangel who made tax laws.

      • patty

        Yes we can – and he has a lot of real estate holdings in NY.

      • Mike in MI

        njmiller -
        Excellent points, indeed. We need to get Barry Soetoro out of office by impeachment really, really bad. One of the charges needs to be related to the birth certificate issue. All the other issues of his antiConstitutional reign can be handled in any order but that one should be handled first and alone.
        If Congress lets him get by without being AT LEAST challenged on it it can for the rest of time be said, “Soetoro was America and you let him be president for a full term. Why not give somebody like Qadaffi, or Gbagbo, or Idi Amin, or Mubarak a chance at the position of president. They’ve all had more experience than Barry had and he put in four years in our (now) Offal Orifice. So what if they’re not born in the U.S.A. — Soetoro wasn’t either. So the precedent is set that the president doesn’t need to be one of us, or understand us, or our culture, or our ways of doing business, or that congress is supposed to debate isses not close the other guys out or run away to another juridiction if you don’t like the odds or any of that other stuff Soetoro instigated. You know how our system works – seta precedent once and that’s that becomes the law of the land forever, no matter what any legislation or other official thing reads.What if a potentially strong leader grows up in Russia or Germany or Afganistan or Somalia and comes here with a desire to lead our nation? Shouldn’t he get a fair chance, too? The Keynsian Keynan did. “

      • Mike in MI

        Correction to above:
        2nd ppg. “Soetoro was not from America..”

      • DENNIS

        GET OFF THE IMPEACHMENT TRASH,, WE DON’T HAVE THE VOTES IN THE SENATE TO CONVICT AND REMOVE HIM EVEN IF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS IMPEACHED HIM.. IT WOULD JUST GIVE HIM SYMPATHY IN THE PRESS, AND A BIG VICTORY BEATING THE CONVICTION IN THE SENATE,,, AND GET HIM RE ELECTED,, JUST LIKE HAPPENED WITH SLICK WILLY,,, DON’T EVEN TALK ABOUT IMPEACHMENT,,,
        PROVING HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF HIM AND ALL THE THINGS HE HAS DONE, INCLUDING REMOVING THE LIBERAL JUDGES HE HAS APPOINTED!!
        … REMEMBER THE NIXON TAPES?? WHERE OH WHERE ARE THE OBAMA PAPERS????

      • Fran C

        And we really do not want Biden or Hillary in the White House. They wouldn’t flip flop. Tjey would go all the way left.

      • Another Voice

        It’s not enough to ‘prove’ that Obama was not born in the US. You have to prove that his MOTHER was not an American citizen. So far, no one has contested that fact. And as long as his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, then he is a natural-born citizen (i.e., he never needed to be naturalized) – so he would still be a natural-born citizen no matter where he was born. The fact that his father was Kenyan does not matter.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Dennis:

        You are correct about the Impeachment. There have only been two Impeachments in our history and neither resulted in a conviction.

        The real answer is peeling back the B/C issue, proving Barry’s ineligibility and outright removing him. We can then jail him, convict him and execute him for treason. Preferable on the font lawn of the WH.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Another Voice:

        Not quite. There are issues about her eligibility to confer citizenship to her son. This has to do with her age at the time and her residence in the U.S.

        Also, Little Barry’s “daddy” was unquestionably a Kenyan citizen and a British subject. That gives Little Barry dual citizenship which excludes him from eligibility.

      • JIBBS

        At the time of his birth, both parents had to be citizen’s.

      • libertytrain

        US Citizen:
        (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
        http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401—-000-.html

      • Mike in MI

        Dennis -
        “Where oh where are the Obama papers?”
        Locked down in a court order, that’s where. And nobody seems able to get any Freedom of Information orders to be processed for releasing info about anything going on in this misadministration. The only way I see getting broken out in the open about them is to subpoena from the highest court to which he’s answerable.
        And besides who knows how many tight-lipped democrats there may be sitting back afraid to speak out or change their minds because of fear of him and higher-ups in their hierarchy — until or unless Congress subpoenas docs that irrefuteably show his citizenship status?
        So what if he wins in 2012???!!! At the rate events are proceeding 2012 will be so-o-o-o late for our economy, our whole financial system and the possible continuity of order in our country you can cease worrying about beating him or anybody else in an election.

        How much time do you think it takes for a culture to collapse once the mortar between the bricks turns to sand? Look at Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and some of these other places that have imploded. Crying out loud – those systems were powerfully centralized systems and much simpler than our system. Worse…they are used to scrabbling to stay alive. Huge population numbers here are used to ENTITLEMENTS….and are kept alive by drugs…or technological gadgets…or people who travel distances to make their nursing rounds of a day. Need I go on?

      • Void1972

        Obamas Grandmother was murdered a couple of weeks before he became President because she was going to sing like a canary about her evil grandson!
        Does anyone remember the Omen?
        Lets just call our current fraud leader Damien for now on!

      • Kate8

        Void – I remember it well.

        The old lady posed a clear and present danger. She met with the same fate as a couple of his gay playmates.

        He’s always appeared to me to be devoid of all conscience.

      • Vicki

        I remember pointing out to more than one of my liberal friends that it was just so convenient that the grandmother died VERY shortly after Obama made the special trip to see her cause she was supposedly ill.

        They of course didn’t want to hear about it any more than they wanted to hear that a certification of live birth != birth certificate.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Void 1972… I have said this very thing. I have nothing but a gut feeling about it all; can’t prove a thing, but this is what I think, too!

      • brassia

        Even if Obama will be forced to produce the BC (which is unlikely) and there is some information on it proving h is illegitimate president WHO is going to remove him from WH? We already know that his father (whoever that may be??) was NOT a US citizen which should already prevented him to become a president. We don’t really know Who and Who’s money (apparently lots and lots of them) behind his election abut know their AIM is to destroy our country. Even if democrats suspect the danger they will never admit it or do anything about it- their powers are above their interest in our country , they will defend Obama till their last breath otherwise they are finished as a party..

      • barbm

        where’s the money coming from? look up george soros.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        We have a Supreme Court that is absolutely AWOL.

        They have apparently been paid off in some way.

      • http://YAHOO MARY MANDOLINI

        JUST THINKING ABOUT GEORGE SOROS AND BARRY SOETORS NAMES THERE KIND OF CLOSE….DON’T YOU THINK???????????????

      • TNJan

        AMEN, barbm, you hit the nail right ON the old, ugly, bald head!! I truly believe those in power who KNOW are afraid for their very lives. Remember where Nobama came from to the WH, where he still calls home (away from home) on the shores of a BIG lake (can you say shades of J. Hoffa?), and where they still fit concrete shoes?

      • Kate8

        It’s all too painfully obvious that our entire system has either been bought off, is complicit, or scared into silence concerning the BC issue. It doesn’t seem to matter how much evidence is put forward, who or how many are demanding satisfaction, or how many bring the issue before the courts, the people are not being heard.

        The courts have ruled that We the People have no standing! Don’t you get it? That means that America, as we have understood her, no longer exists! Power has been usurped from us.

        Those in power hold us in utter disdain and contempt. And why not? Look at us. We are so EASILY controlled by the media. We think what we are told to think, and we believe what they tell us, according to which spin we want to listen to.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Kate8, Excellent! NOW can all of you say American Indians ( P.C. Native Americans )

      • Void1972

        Kate8,
        I love reading your post, you are very intune, unlike most Americans.
        Check out You Tube “Barack the Magic Suit” | FrontPage Magazine
        This pretty much explains it all. You will love it!

      • j caudill

        what happen to the lady doctor who went to kenya and got a copy of his
        birth cert that was send around the net any body wanting a copy i have the copy that when around the net and will send it to you inc
        trump.

      • sarahb

        That birth certificate was proven to be a fake. 1- The form it was on was not the form the hospital was using at the time he was born. 2- The print was not the same as the print on all the other birth certificates printed at that time. 3- Neither the form not a printer to match could be located. While he was here, The Governor of Hawii swore he would go back to Hawii, get the birth certificate and send it to Washington. Strangely enough, he couldn’t find it, then he said he was told it was illegal for him to get a copy of the Birth Certificate. Birth Certificates are public record, and if it exist, he could have gotten it, no problem!!!!! I’ve not decided who I would want for president, It certainly won’t be who I consider the most hated man in the world, but at least Trump has everyone’s attention. He is reveling things others have over looked telling us about. Politicians have to be very careful what they say. They have tiptoed around many things because they are afraid someone is going to pull some skeletons out of their closet. We need to research and reserch some more before we trust anyone with the the position of President of OUR United States. Trump owes nobody anything, no Unions, No politicians,no oil companies, no foreign leaders,so he tells it like it is and those people are listening with fear that he is about to tear up their playhouse.

      • Kate8

        sarahb – Sorry dear, but you PROVE MY CASE.

        We READILY ACCEPT whatever we are told is the truth. Some say the Kenyan BC is legit, some say not. We believe what we want to believe.

        GOOD GRIEF, PEOPLE. WE ARE CONTINUALLY FED NOTHING BUT LIES, and we don’t figure it out! Who knows what the truth really is, but you can bet it will be reported however it best suits the agenda of th PTB.

        We’ve got to stop being such mindless sheep.

      • Munday/TX

        one thing. You and I both know that Obama is not stupid. We both know that it is not the Government we elected who is in charge and of all people you know the Trump knows this, yet when asked he advises that he thinks Obama is just incompetent! – really! – well the Donald is a bad liar and I am not trusting any one that is not a Tea Partier.
        democrat=socialist Republican=socialist light!! They are both leading us to the one world government. Its all a matter of time; demo-sooner repub-later. Either way if the people of this country do not stand up and say no more, we are going to be back in the days when the people owned nothing and a few powerful had everything. Stop paying the buggers to put us in prison-don’t pay federal taxes!!

      • Bob Marker

        I would like very much to have a copy if it is legitimate.

        Thanks

      • JiimCO

        Why did Obama pay a law firm two million dollars … it was because they all do! It is called a retainer, it is for them to make sure they are following all election laws and to defend them when the FEC says they are not. McCain also had the same arrangement paying his law firm $1.3 million during the 2008 election … Trump already knows this, he has probably paid many more millions as retainers over the years to his own law firms. Yet he chooses to use the same legitimate practice which he knows is not all that nefarious as a wedge issue because … it resonates with the voters … guess he thinks they are chumps!

      • spitfire

        Actually most are chumps! How else would Obama ever get elected. How is it possible that slick willy got two terms, and messed up the country.

      • Jenelle

        A person born in the United States is only a true citizen if the person’s father is a citizen. Once Obama shows he was born here, what is the Tea Party going to do – say the paper is a fraud? That’s what the mainstream media is already saying.

      • libertytrain

        “A person born in the United States is only a true citizen if the person’s father is a citizen.”

        Not true. This site may clarify some items re requirement for you -
        http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
        Here’s one example of the “rules”
        “Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time) “

      • jmp

        I believe this 5 year time frame needs to include at least 2 years from the time the person was 14..Obama’s mama didn’t meet that requirement.

      • EddieW

        Since he donates so much money to Democrats, I fear he is a RINO!!
        Love your “afterthought”!!! TRUE! I wonder if Obozo is even a citizen of this country? There is nothing so far where he became a citizen!!
        Just his mom maybe being a citizen at the time, and that is in serious doubt, still his dad was not ever so, his SS number is from a dead man in Mass. when he was around 14 in Hawaii…and had never been to Mass!! FELONY!!! To get into the school in Indonesia, he may have had to renounce any US citizenship, or he would not have been allowed!! Congress knows this, the “supreme”Court knows this, and won’t hear a case against him…!

      • Bruce D.

        There is a lot more to Trump than one issue. No one is taking on the issues like he is. No one is even close to him. He is resonating.
        “Trump also took aim at the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries.
        “OPEC will cut the price of oil, and if they don’t they’ve got problems,” he said. “We are protecting Saudi Arabia free of charge. The Arab League asked us to go into Libya and we go in and we don’t say, ‘Are you going to pay for it?”‘
        “I would tell (OPEC) that oil is not going to $150 a barrel … it’s going to be at $40 to $50 a barrel.”

        On China, Trump accused Beijing of manipulating its yuan currency, contributing to a U.S. trade deficit that was unacceptable — it was $18.8 billion in February alone.

        “I would put a 25 percent tax on all goods coming in from China to the United States and I would do it without hesitation,” Trump said.

    • herman richardson

      Trump is better than anyone up there, at least he can make money, not just spend – wake up time to take back our country from the Commie Republicans and Democrats-let the government collapse, get the low lifes out of office-if you are getting your Check from the bunch you will not agree

      • Bruce D.

        No one is resonating like Donald Trump is at this time. He should be in the race and if there is someone better than him let them prove themselves just as Trump has to prove himself. Just because he may be running does not mean he has won already. In reality the field is not a strong one. Gingrich is probably the best qualified and can easily handle Obama in a debate but many view him as having a lot of baggage which keeps him from being an attractive candidate. Romney is trying to distance himself from the TeaParty and cannot be trusted although he appears to be next in line. Really it is not a good field to choose from. Allen West, Bobby Jangle, Criss Christi, and Mark Rubio are all exciting conservative candidates but are not ready for that role yet.

      • Vigilant

        “Gingrich is probably the best qualified and can easily handle Obama in a debate but many view him as having a lot of baggage which keeps him from being an attractive candidate.”

        Obama’s “baggage” is much more damning, but it didn’t prevent him from becoming president. The same media which overlooked/hid Obama’s traitorous associations would have a field day with Gingrich.

      • Kate8

        Vigilant – This is but yet another example of how the media controls the debate.

        Newt’s baggage? Who would think twice about it, except that the media is constantly reiterating it. We’re told he has too much baggage, so we toss him out as a possibility.

        Be certain that whoever has the support of the media is NOT going to be good for US. This includes Trump.

      • Vigilant

        Kate, we are in violent agreement!

      • Carlucci

        Newt the newt is a rino, and yet another potential trojan horse.

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – I don’t discount that as possibility at all. In fact, I have thought that same thing.

        We must be aware, however, of who the media supports the most, and who they demonize the most. As I said, they control the debate, and those who use the media as their control arm are the ones taking us down this horrendous road to perdition.

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – Trump could be an even greater Trojan Horse. He will get the support of all sides.

      • Carlucci

        Kate8 isn’t mad at anybody. She’s just trying to get your attention.

        Kate8 – see my post – scroll waaaay down…

      • Bruce D.

        As far as I know the media likes Obama and I do not think they will endorse any Republican canidate. I do not hear anyone making a case for Newt. If they were he would have announced two weeks ago when he said he was going to, instead of backing off. He would have ran in 2008 but no one seems to want to promote him. People have to be willing to come out and say they like him and want him to be president. People on this site won’t even do that. The media is only one part of it. Newt flatly isn’t resonating with most people.

      • Mushin

        Gentlemen, Gentlemen,

        Please, consider for one moment that your Donald Trump. Your in an exclusive club where you rub elbows with all the most powerful and influential people of the world, ie; George Soros, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. Why would you EVER consider stepping on your buddies toes?! The answer is, you wouldn’t. Trump is playing the game and, like Sotomo (aka Obama), Bush, Clinton, etc, he’ll play like the pied piper until he get’s into office. Then he’ll do what’s expected of him from the club members.

        Tunaman’s assessment is accurate – the corruption is so thorough is it highly unlikely it will be halted no matter the intervention (as much as I’d like to think otherwise). God bless America.

      • Bruce D.

        Trump adds a lot of energy to the presidential campaign. It would be a big mistake to not let him have his say. No one will be forced to vote for him. His ideas need to be heard. Who you vote for is up to you.

      • Kate8

        Mushin – I am certain that you are right about Trump.

        Consider this also: no one gets a huge TV show without the backing of those who own the media.

        We are, as usual, being PLAYED. And, as usual, we are sucked right in.

      • Kate8

        In fact, we need to consider who gets the media attention. If we were really given any real choices, Ron Paul would be getting much more attention than he ever does.

        REAL statesmen get virtually ignored by the media. They aren’t even given a chance to debate more than nominally.

        We obediently play the game, readily accepting the choices placed before us, not realizing that any differences between them is an illusion.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kate8, Ron Paul won’t get the press needed to win nomination much less a Presidency, the elitests already know he can’t/won’t be bought, so the Liberal News media ignore him.

      • Kate8

        Angel W – Yes, the media will ignore him, thinking they will get away with controlling the election as they always do.

        That’ why we need to find a ways to launch our own campaign, using the internet and private media. We could organize and put up signs, write letters to newspapers (does anyone read them?)…I don’t know. There has to be a way for US to take back control of our election process.

        People are on to the game, and are realizing that we end up the losers every time. Maybe we’re ripe for something new. The TeaParty showed us that YES WE CAN.

      • Born in America

        YOU ALL TALK ABOUT IMPEACHMENT! WELL IT’S UP TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES WHOM WE’VE ELECTED TO DO THIS BUT SEEM TO NOT BE ABLE TO PERFORM. THE GOVERNMENT IS IN THE SHAPE IT’S IN IS BECAUSE THEY WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY, BOTH SIDES. THE HOUSE HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS AND THEY’VE ALLOWED THIS WILD SPENDING WITH THEIR APPROVAL. THE PRESIDENT CAN ONLY PROPOSE A BUDGET, BUT THE HOUSE HAS THE RIGHT TO PASS OR REJECT IT, BY NOT FUNDING IT. TRUMP WILL SPLIT THE REPUBLICAN VOTE IF HE RUNS – JUST LIKE PERRO (SPELLING?) DID AND THE REPUBLICANS LOST. AS FAR AS EXPERIENCE WHERE DID OBAMA GET HIS??? HE WAS AN ORGANIZER THAT WAS IT AND HE CERTAINLY WAS NOT OR IS NOT AN AMERICAN!!!!

      • JIBBS

        Please turn off the caps, it make’s reading your posts tough…..skip

      • JustDon

        Why are you yelling at us? Have we angered you in some way?

        You also might consider some punctuation and spell-checking. (It’s “Perot,” by the way…)

      • B & J

        MITT ROMNEY IS A VERY TRUSTWORTHY MAN….HE WOULD MAKE A GREAT PRESIDENT….WE LOVE TRUMP ALSO….MAY THE BEST MAN WIN TO SAVE OUR NATION FROM SO MUCH CORRUPTION GOING ON.,…..

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        You mean Mitt Romney of the infamous RomneyCare in MA? That Mitt Romney?

        He would love implementing ObamaCaare….

        Go to hermancain.com

      • Kate8

        No one who belongs to or works for the corporate elites is going to be about saving America. You might as well get that idea out of your system once and for all.

        Sigh. When, oh when, are we going to snap out of this media-induced stupor.

      • JustDon

        Why are you yelling at us? Have we angered you in some way?

        I agree, btw, with the poster stating that Herman Cain is intriguing.

      • http://YAHOO val

        I LOVE TRUMP, YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT, BUT HE HAS OBAMAS ATTENTION, AND HE IS RUNNING SCARRED, WE THE US CITIZENS COULDN’T GET OBAMA TO HEAR US, WELL HE HEARS TRUMP, AND IS WORRIED,YESTERDAY HE SENT ONE OF HIS CZARS OUT TO THE NETWORKS, TO BAD MOUTH TRUMP, WELL IT DIDN’T WORK IN FACT IT BACK FIRED.I SAY; GO TRUMP GO. I SURE HOPE TRUMP FINDS OUT WHY OBAMA HAS HIDDEN HIS PAST, IT MUST BE SHOCKING.YET, I WOULDN’T PUT ANYTHING PAST A COMMON CRIMINAL….

      • B & J

        YOU ARE SO RIGHT….TRUMP HAS THE GUTS TO CONFRONT B.O. WITH THIS OUTRIGHT FRAUD & LIES ABOUT HIS DECEPTIONS..WHICH ARE MANY…GO GET HIM TRUMP…YOU ARE A REAL WARRIOR & SHINING KNIGHT SAVIOUR TO AMERICA….

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Carefull there B&J

        Remember, Little Barry the communist Kenyan was also touted as the “savior”. We all know how that turned out.

        The only Savior is Jesus Christ Himself. Trump is no more than a mere human.

        He does have that NYC Chutzpa which makes him a tough adversary.

      • Kate8

        Old H – Until more people turn off their TVs and start thinking (if they still have that ability), we’ll keep dutifully marching down the path laid out for us.

        Or should I call it a chute?

      • Kate8

        Old H – My point is, the SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE control EVERY word we hear!

        Their agents may LOOK different, but what we don’t see is that a little way down the road, it all ends at the same place!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Yeah Kate8, you are correct in your assertion. However, the fact that eyes are opening may be a good sign, but enough and in time?

        Tis is why I began the “prepping” last Fall. I hope there is enough time to assemble everything we will need to last at least one year while the dust settles. When you stop and take stock of what you consume in 12 months it can be overwhelming.

        For well over 6 lustrums I have been preparing by saving and investing. Now the paradigim (sp?? has changed completely.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Herman:

        When the government collapses it will be because of the low-lifes and they will be sure to have things set up to keep them right where they are.

        It is becoming more and more apparent that the TEA Party folks are the only ones truly interested in saving our Republic.

      • http://windstream Jo Anne

        I agree. As for the birth certificate issue, aside from where he was born , no one pays the kind of money he has paid to hide his records unless there is something he doesn’t want Americans to know about . Where there is smoke there is fire. He is guilty of something.
        I remember how Jo Biden made the statement “He is clean” about Obama before he was elected. Many felt it was a sort of disrespectful statement and referred to his race. I feel Biden was saying they had his records well hidden.Obama was too sure of being President way before the election. He also took it for granted that he had Pilosi and Reed to do the work before he arrived and he flat out said that on one occasion. (Not in those words).
        I like Donald Trump. As for his past. People do things and learn from those things. They change . they grow. At least intelligent peop[le do. People who are business people do. Trump has stated that many of his previous opinions have changed. I have given to charity’s in the past and later decided that I was not going to support them and did not know all the facts about them. Everyone who has done any business at all has made errors in judgement or has just had a run of bad luck due to curcumstances beyond your controle. I refuse to judge if Don Trump is the kind of Christian that some feel is worthy to be called Christian. He say’s he is,I believe he is. God is the judge. As for divorces, if everyone who has had a divorce was cast out of the church, there would not be many in any church. I will never judge that!

    • homeboy

      every day this web site has good things to discuss and debate. i am wondering when people are going to realize that the system we have does not work for the obvious reasons, corruption to name one. not only does this country need changes but the whole world needs it. so do you really think man,after 6000 years, can do the job right because it hasn’t happen yet? the only way this country has a chance is to completely change our government and you have to start with getting rid of all politicians. maybe it can run like a corporation. i don’t know but i do know man does not have the answers . don’t mean to burst your bubble but thats the truth. so maybe a business person will have a different take on running the government. whats your thoughts?

      • Mike in MI

        Homeboy -
        I think I have it on pretty good evidence that it’s going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better – all over the world – focussed on the mideast. The Devil’s only hope of retaining control of the world, at this point, is to destroy, really destroy all the Jews…everywhere. And, this time he really has to do the job. So he’s going to make the whole world mad at Israel and Jews anywhere…mad enough to want to hunt down and destroy every last one. He’s working on it right now if you look around. I’m warning you stay away from it and aloof from participating in the things people are going to start doing.
        He’ll probably try to make it appear that they aren’t the only group he but if history is any guide it coul get unbelievably vicious.

      • Carlucci

        I agree. Getting rid of the Federal Reserve and parasite bankers in govt. is a great place to start. All of this other stuff, including Trump, is a dog and pony show designed to distract the masses.

      • Mushin

        Correct my friend.

      • JackBSanD

        Be careful Carlucci, Glenn Beck mentioned the same corrupt bankers by name and he was booted off the air because his “ratings were low”! Kicked off the one channel that was viewed by mostly Conservatives and nosey Liberals? What does that tell you?

      • Carlucci

        Thanks, JackBSanD, but I don’t have a t.v. show. I’m not much of a fan of Glenn Beck, either, after he sabotaged our libertarian candidate for governor of Texas on his talk show.

        The problem is we will never get out of this hot mess until democrats and rinos are gone from the federal leviathan. People just don’t get it. Take a look at this and find out why:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

      • JeffH

        JackBSanD, Beck “booted” and “low ratings”? Me thinks you’ve been listening to the wrong people. Beck’s leaving his daily FOX show because he wants to and he’s still gonna be working with FOX through his highly successful multimedia company, or haven’t you heard.

      • Kate8

        Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. You disappoint me here a little bit.

        Beck stepped on a lot of toes. Soros spent millions trying to discredit him, causing advertisers to pull out…

        Methinks FoxNews received a visit. Probably the same guys who paid a visit to TruTV.

        Beck was warned over and over, and did capitulate to a point. But he was exposing too much.

        Time will tell, won’t it?

      • JeffH

        Kate8, sorry to disappoint but That’s what I believe has happened. Beck’s not going away, he’s just ending his daily FOX cable show. His media company, Mercury Arts Radio along with the BLAZE, is in need of his full attention and we will be seeing and hearing plenty from Beck.
        Had you heard that Fox News Senior Vice President Joel Cheatwood reportedly plans to leave FOX and join Beck’s company. If Cheatwood joins Beck’s Mercury Radio Arts observers say it would indicate that Beck could possibly have much bigger plans for his future in television than anyone realized.

      • Kate8

        JeffH – I am sure that Beck, seeing the way the wind was blowing, did, indeed, put together a new plan…

        While I still think there is more to this, I do think it will, ultimately, work out much better for Beck. This way, Fox is off the hook, and Beck has more freedom…hopefully.

        Those who stand for the truth will get the support of Higher Powers…I only hope he will now speak the WHOLE truth, without having to censor himself.

        I guess we’ll get to see what he is REALLY made of.

      • TIME

        Jack,
        I know Glenn, his rating are the highest for that time slot ever in recorded Telie History. As in there has never been a 5 PM show that has ever been on the same page let alone near it.
        Perhaps you should stop with the wack job Mind control media and find the “TRUTH.”

        Look I don’t see eye to eye with Glenn on many points, but he has many of his duck in the right pond.

        Yes I understand that Alex Jones and Glenn do not Mix well.
        Alex also has a TON of INTEL you should look into. Also look into David Icke. Between all of them you can at least get a clear picture of whats really going on in the REAL WORLD.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Carlucci, Jeffh and Kate8, I’m gonna jump in here, on the Beck Band Wagon, if ya’s don’t mind. I think he’s got bigger things in store and JeffH, I did hear one of the Fox excutives has been hired by Beck. Becks hands or tongue if you will, are tied by Murdoc at Fox. If he goes on his own, the future is an open door for him. Becks doing a good job at keeping us all in suspense too!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Beck was not booted off, or asked to leave. On the contrary, they are begging him to stay, but there are bigger things ahead for Glenn Beck. And Im telling you right now, after listening to him for more than a few years, Glenn Beck is not the kind of kind that would let someone silence him with threats. That would make him speak out more. When your about the truth, you dont fear men and their threats. That is why Glenn is successful, because he spread the truth and reveals the evils these people do. And he will continue to do so.

    • Vigilant

      I agree with you Claire.

      What a farce! We have spent a lot of time arguing the merits/demerits of political philosophy on this site, but now that there are potential candidates looming on the horizon, what do we do? We start arguing about the “electability” of candidates rather than their core beliefs.

      Trump’s championing of a side issue shows just how opportunistic he is. I doubt that he gives a damn whether Obama has a birth certificate or not, he’s merely capitalizing on a controversial issue for political advantage. And, smart as he may be regarding business, chasing the birther question guarantees that he will spin, crash and burn.

      The real questions with which we need to concern ourselves are these:

      (1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?

      (2) Will the candidate as president do his/her utmost to restore the Constitution, radically reduce the size of Federal government and rein in the Federal Reserve?

      (3) Will the new president takes steps to protect our borders from illegal immigration, to slash spending and balance the budget?

      Many will disagree, but I believe that concentrating on narrowly-focused issues such as abortion, gay/lesbian affairs and impeachment/birther concerns is a dead end game that diverts and detracts from the priority issues that need to be tackled. NONE of these issues will matter if the country is destroyed from within by the leftists/statist forces who would make us dependent slaves in a feudal barony.

      • Bruce D.

        If those are your qualifications Trump has already stated he will fix number two and three. Most likely will be able to fix those two problems better than anyone else.

      • Bruce D.

        I do not know about Trump reining in the Fed Reserve. Most likely he will not do that as Ron Paul has been trying to do that for years with little or no success.

      • Kate8

        Bruce D – They all promise what we want to hear. It’s called “campaign rhetoric”.

      • Andy Miller

        You talk out of both sides of your mouth. just like the imposter in the whitehouse today You said “(1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?”, I think one of the first core values is the person qualified to be in that position, wich you say isn’t important, at least that may keep people that openly hate America out of office, and that is just what Trump is trying to expose or to confirm. HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO GET (BERRY SOETORO)out of office.

      • Bruce D.

        I agree Andy that eligibility is an important Constitutional issue and ignoring any part of the Constitution is a huge mistake. It may be politically correct to ignore eligibility but I for one do not like it. I am grateful to Trump for making it one of many issues that needs to be discussed. Trump is one person that does not fear the left and political correct thinking. I wish more were like him in that sense. Most on the right are somewhat timid.

      • Vigilant

        “You talk out of both sides of your mouth. just like the imposter in the whitehouse today You said “(1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?”, I think one of the first core values is the person qualified to be in that position, wich you say isn’t important, at least that may keep people that openly hate America out of office, and that is just what Trump is trying to expose or to confirm. HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO GET (BERRY SOETORO)out of office.”

        Andy, I’m NOT talking out of both sides of my mouth. First, there’s a difference between core values and legal qualifications. Second, I do not believe that any candidate should skirt the legal qualifications to be president. Third, it’s both too late and too counterproductive to do anything about it at the moment.

        IT’s CALLED “PRIORITIES.” It’s an issue that, if faced head on by the president, Congress and the SCOTUS, would tear this country apart. We need action to get the government back to its original, Constitutionally restricted functions and get a handle on the debt, inflationary printing of fiat money, and national security (read: illegal immigration).

        At this time in our history, the last thing we need is civil unrest and violence in the wake of a Congress paralyzed by fruitless impeachment proceedings. If evidence is furnished to disprove Obama’s citizenship status, fine and good, but do you REALLY believe that 2/3 of the Senate would vote to convict? Be practical.

        I dislike this socialist president as much as the next guy, but I’m not letting a spirit of vengeance cloud my mind to the realities of what’s really important to this nation. First things first.

        How would I get rid of him? Through the ballot box.

      • Kate8

        Vigilant – I’m so tired of Conservatives always being so willing to compromise on core issues for the sake of being PC, or out of fear of being labeled “radical”. That is exactly why the media uses those buzzwords. They always work.

        Continually backing down only makes us look weak. In fact, it confirms that WE ARE WEAK. What we need to be is like a pitbull, and NOT back down on things we know are valid. They are going to hurl everything they’ve got at ANYONE who dares question the PTB, but we’ve got to STAND FIRM and not be silenced!

        Speaking out on real Constitutional issues makes us look bad (per Ben’s article above)? To WHOM? It’s the MEDIA that TELLS us we’re crazy, and sure, we let that back us down EVERY TIME.

        Conservatives need to STOP APOLOGIZING for being who are, and stop trying to look like Liberal Light. We are so afraid of being demonized that we try to look like “team players”, when the truth is, the American people want a real show of strength, something to believe in. THE TRUTH ALWAYS WINS. We need to stop being afraid of it.

      • Dan az

        Kate
        You are exactly right!For one thing I read that if impeached he gets his hand slapped but if he is tried for treason then bozo spends the rest of his life in guantonamo where he can join his friends.No wounder he wanted to close it!As far as Trump goes he filed bankruptcy three times, where did he get the money to start over each time?Was it the elite or was it the mob?Either way something fishy about this guy.Hell maybe he would do the same with the debt to china,just not pay them.I just get a bad feeling about this guy.

      • http://YAHOO MARY MANDOLINI

        THERE IS THE NAME AGAIN GEORGE SOROS—–BARRY SOETORO—-DROP THE ET&O AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE—–SOROS??????MAYBE HE’S THE FATHER.OH WELL LIKE I SAID JUST THINKING????????REMEMBER IT WAS SAID”"”THEY WILL TAKE US DOWN FROM THE INSIDE”"”"JUST GOING WITH MY GUT AGAIN.

      • Old Dog

        Agree agree with you 100%

      • http://deleted Claire

        Vigilant: Good post. I agree with your comments. To me, it is tragic that the ones that are most worthy of being President are unable to run or will not run. Why is it the ones that are least likely to be a productive president always are at the forefront. The 2008 campaign was a good example of this. The MSM centered itself around their “choice” of candidates and the rest of the candidates received little acknowledgement.

      • patrick H.T. paine

        “To conquer, first divide!”

        Your core values seem to have omitted the “Articles of Confederation”,
        which is key to understanding intent ( or primary FEAR ) of the
        founding father’s, framers, et al. re: a strong central government.

        Our history is the story of this struggle, which can be directly
        reduced to a simply defined dynamic, that the advantaged will seek
        to maintain their position by attempting to control, by whatever means
        available, those forces which seek to limit or restrain their ambition
        for power and further advantage at the expense of common good.

        This task is far more easily accomplished when one can direct one’s
        efforts at a single target, rather than having to deal with multiple
        obstructions…….

        Four score and five years after the “idea” took form, the first major
        step in this struggle was accomplished under the call to SAVE THE
        UNION. From this point on, it has been a losing battle so that what
        we have now, is a FEDERAL TYRANNY, which is so corrupted, that even
        the framers wouldn’t believe the extent of what they feared the most,
        would be possible.

        Can this result be altered? The answer to this question is, emphatically YES!

        Is there a source for this reform available from any political party,
        potential candidate or intelletual currently in the public eye?
        NO!

        Why is this true? A simple perusing of the postings on this site
        should be sufficient to illustrate the nature of the problem.

        The degree of corruption has grown to such an extent, that the rhetoric of opinions offered can clearly be seen as “perceived self
        interest” posing simplistic solutions, while frustrations, easily
        degrade any reasonable debate, to self serving ad hominum attacks,
        allowing those with influence, to easily dismantle any directed
        reform, to one whose effects actually exacerbate, that was intended
        to be corrected.

        The ability to “rant” via the interenet, is simply a diffusion of energy, distracting the “victims” from mounting directed opposition except through those “entities”, who have already been effectively neutered, thus posing no threat to “business as usual”,
        regardless of what is claimed.

        “Do not ask for whom the bell tolls……..”

      • Harold

        We already have a dictator, “Barry Soetero.” His main goal is to destroy America…….. One idiot said we needed to amend the constitution and eliminate the natural born clause from it. He has never proven that he is American born (Barry Soetero). Those that alowed him on the ballot should be prosecuted and sent to prision…..!

      • http://none Jim

        When the “tea party” was being organized I predicted two things. First they would split the GOP wide open and then they would completely destroy the party. Both have now happened. The “tea party” is the best thing to happen for the Democrats. They will sweep victory in 2012.

      • Pathfinder

        Jim : Frankly, I am so tired of being stabbed in the back by rinos (i.e. candidates who talk smaller government and less spending when campaigning, then spend like democrats once they get into office); that I am quite willing to see the heard of RINOs totally destroyed.

        Maybe then, we will get some statesmen who will keep their oath to uphold the constitution. I am tired of socialists being given a pass just because they have an “R” behind their name. Like the whigs before them, the republicans need to vanish from this nation’s political scene, unless they can stop being twins to the democrats.

      • Pathfinder

        P S Jim : If the tea party is so good for the democrats; perhaps you would care to explain the record losses of democrats seats in the house during the 2010 electorial cycle.

      • kenneth kilmer

        There are a vast number of states that have or are trying to pass a
        law in their state that would require any presidential candidate to
        show proof of citizenship by having to show their long form of birth citificate. So those states that have the law in effect, would require Obama to show his…… Get it! Obviously, I don’t think he
        is able to meet that requirement… unless there will involve a mass
        voter fraud to come up with a fake certificate and I don’t mean a live birth one. Arizona, for example, will go further than that.
        Their law requires a candidate to show their school records, passport,
        etc: If you want to find out the truth about something, you might have
        to go through the back door. So Arizona is going about it the smart
        way, legislating law to do it.

      • Pathfinder

        Vigilant : While I do not consider constitutional qualification to hold the office of president to be a “side-issue” or a “distraction”; the three issues which you mention are certainly the kinds of things which we should be looking at : not only in this election, but in every election. We must stop putting people into office who do not keep their oath to uphold the constitution. On this I agree with you.

      • john

        Vigilant stated
        (1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?
        If a candidate or a voter believes in the Constitution you must also believe that a presidential candidate is an American citizen.

      • Letsprosper2

        I agree with Vigilant, core values are what count.

        As Vigilant noted,

        The real questions with which we need to concern ourselves are these:

        (1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?

        (2) Will the candidate as president do his/her utmost to restore the Constitution, radically reduce the size of Federal government and rein in the Federal Reserve?

        (3) Will the new president takes steps to protect our borders from illegal immigration, to slash spending and balance the budget?

        However,reined in the Federal Reserve is not enough, it needs to be put out of business. They are a primary cause in creating economic crisis-es. Check out Moneymasters.com they have a DVD called The MoneyMasters that gives a detailed history for the last 300 years on Central Banking and our economic demise and well being. They have a proposed law to remove the Federal Revserve from control of our money supply within one year.

      • http://n/a Emory Rice

        Did any of you look at Vision to America’s latest? The leftist Congress HAS Proposed a Bill to strike the Native born clause from the Constitution of the United States. Please check it out at http://www.visiontoamerica.com

      • doris simonis

        I want to also know who paid for Obama’s education. It didn’t come cheap and he supposedly came from a poor upbringing. Whoever paid the large fees probably controls the white house.

      • Phil

        Trump makes some very valid points about the birth certificate (why has Obama spent millions in the court system to fight it) and our relationship with China (why are we giving in to them as much as we do) but he is in the news because of his ego. I also agree that issues like gay marriage and abortion as small potatoes compared to our national debt, security and entitlements. Every American needs to sit down and write out the 3 or 4 most important issues to them and the country and vote for the candidate that best reflects their views.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        “Many will disagree, but I believe that concentrating on narrowly-focused issues such as abortion, gay/lesbian affairs and impeachment/birther concerns is a dead end game that diverts and detracts from the priority issues that need to be tackled. NONE of these issues will matter if the country is destroyed from within by the leftists/statist forces who would make us dependent slaves in a feudal barony.”

        I agree, with one exception: If they are not eligible to be in the White House in the first place, then nothing else about them matters.

      • Cathy

        To those typing in all CAPS, please get your finger off the “cap lock” key. Irritating, to put it mildly.

      • barbm

        trump is a joke. just watch his tv show. gary bussey (sic?) is crazy, yet he got to stay on the show until last night. why? because of viewer draw. people like to see crazy. it’s not about the best qualified, it’s about getting a large audience. same with this birther thing. gary johnson, former governor of n.m. is emminently qualified. he lowered taxes not once but several times, he lowered the number of govt employees by attrition rather than firing, he balanced their budget, and he left office with a surplus of funds. i was looking at herman cain, i must admit because of his race mostly, but wikipedia says he’s against auditing the fed. he himself said, when he was in san antonio a while back, that he does want an audit, but i have to wonder if he’s being truthful since he was chairman of the kansas city fed for a year back in the mid 1990s. i normally wouldn’t even consider a lawyer, but cain does not and has not worked for a legal firm. anybody know whether any dems plan to give o a run for his money?

      • Cathy

        Well…I give a damn whether or not BO has a birth certificate. And I know many others who ALSO give a damn. Why wouldn’t that be important?

        If he doesn’t (and I don’t believe he has one), it’s called “high crimes and misdemeanors.” In other words, TREASON!

      • usmadgirl

        Cathy,

        I couldn’t agree more!!! If proof shows he doesn’t have a birth certificate, hopefully he is out of here BEFORE 2012, every idiotic thing (bill, law, BS) he’s done will be null & void, all his goons & thugs will be gone “bye-bye” & we can actually have a “do-over” & get this country back on the right track & TRY to undo some of the damage he’s done!

        It irritates me because other countries think we’re ALL stupid for electing him & “allowing” him to do all this idiotic stuff. I DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS MUSLIM COMMUNIST!

      • GregS

        Vigilant says:

        “The real questions with which we need to concern ourselves are these:

        (1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?
        .
        .
        .

        …I believe that concentrating on narrowly-focused issues such as abortion,… is a dead end game that diverts and detracts from the priority issues that need to be tackled.”

        Vigilant, if you are saying that issues, such as abortion, has nothing to do with a candidate’s belief in the core values of the Constitution, then I strongly disagree with your statement. There is NO way to determine what the candatate’s beliefs are, regarding the core values, unless you delve into some of those “narrowly-focused” issues, like abortion. ANY candidate can say that he/she believes in the core values of the Constitution, but unless they get more specific than that, how does one determine WHAT that really means?

        It’s the combination of many of those “narrowly-focused” issues that make up the core values of the Constitution. With regard to abortion, the right to life is one of the most basic rights explicitly found in the Constitution. Any candidate who doesn’t believe in the right to life of the unborn child can’t possibly believe in the core values of the Constitution!

        With regard to Trump, he’s such a flip-flopper on ALL of the core values, that he doesn’t even qualify as a presidential candidate in my book. I don’t think he really believes in anything, unless it’s what the public wants to hear. To use the old cliche, I don’t trust him as far as I could throw him!

      • GregS

        …and that ain’t too far!

      • GregS

        Wow, I really messed up that cliche, didn’t I? It should be:

        I trust him as far as I could throw him!

      • ONTIME

        Personally, the Donald’s running for prez is not a big worry, he has baggage and the opposition will gladly point out all the excess in order to derail him, he has to be convincing in order to attempt to run or succeed, his own questioning rhetoric has set the standard by which he competes.

        My hope is that he continue on in this same vane and make this unqualified shill we are saddled with cough up every last remaining shred of his Mystery Man status and put to bed all the questions he owes the taxpayers and voters of this nation by law and relation. This arrogant incompetent miss-elected clown needs to fess up and spill his guts and then we can apply judgement as to his legal status…..Hammer his skinny butt Donald.

      • http://PersonelLibertyDigest Curtis

        Reply

        AMEN

      • Lynn F

        What difference does it make if Obama was born here or not?? And, even if he wasn’t, and was impeached, are we to replace him with another puppet? When are the American people going to wake up and realize we are continually lied to by Democrats and Republicans alike? They have been bought by the corporations. First we need to END the CORRUPT FED; second, we must ALL simply refuse to vote for a puppet Democrat or Republican.

      • Bob Parsons

        Interesting that first on his priority list is:
        “(1) Does the candidate believe in the core values of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution?”

        The Constitution requires our president to be a natural born citizen of the United States. So far, Obama’s puppeteer, George Soros, has spent nearly $2 million to keep Obama’s birth certificate, among other documents, under wraps. Yes, it does matter. All Obama has to do to shut everyone up on this issue is simply show a raised seal birth certificate. The only reason he wouldn’t is because he doesn’t have one.

      • Cawmun Cents

        What you failed to mention is integrity and character,which are hard to come by these days.We need(legendary leadership),not”I can barely beat Obama in an election.”Dealing with all the things you mention is of utmost importance,but rallying the populace to the cause of preserving our nation,in the face of world democratic socialism,is most definitely something you should add to the list.

      • Norm Davis

        If a person running for the highest elected office in the land cannot produce a legitimate birth certificate then he has not met the requirements of the U. S. Constitution and then logically how can we expect that person to defend and uphold the very document they have violated? How can we expect that person to protect our rights guaranteed by the Constitution? How can we expect that person to be a defender of ‘we, the people’? The Constitution should be sacrosanct to both citizens and leaders, not just citizens. Each state should develop a law that requires that a numbered birth certificate, just like the requirement for a child to participate in little league baseball, should be on file with the state before any name can be placed on the ballot for a national office. If little league can do it why can’t we? It is not a birther argument it is a constitutional argument!

      • mea

        The single way to stop the destruction of America is to run 39,000 candidates in the 2012 election… which means, we field 2 people – 1 as a candidate in each major party primary, running for every office, County, State, and Federal, on a government by Law Platform. The government by law campaign points are :

        1. capture and deport all illegal aliens and charge the entire cost of each illegal alien occurrence to each illegal alien, and then, charge a value equal to the whole cost of the nations individual illegal invading forces to/on/against the government of origin;

        2. arrest and prosecute all government employees who use their office/position/public/private funds/employees in any manner that aids and abets illegal aliens; [here judges get rolled, cuffed, and stuffed by the court bailiff under the RICO provisions.]

        3. arrest and prosecute all corporate/association/organization principles who use their office position – private public -funds – employees in any manner that aids and abets illegal aliens; [here, all foreign aiding and abetting criminals will be rolled in under RICO]

        4. arrest and prosecute all Media corporate/association/organization principles and principle owners – manipulators who use their media/access/control/position in any manner that aids and abets illegal aliens;

        5. arrest and prosecute all Attorney [corporate/association/organization] principles and principle owners – manipulators who use their commercial/public employee legal position in any manner that aids and abets illegal aliens;

        The opening 5 point campaign message from each candidate is timely and simple, each candidate says :

        “I will secure deportations for illegal aliens and, the criminal and civil prosecution of every government employee who aids and abets illegal alien activity.”
        “Elect me now ! Elect me, I will use the office to compel the uniform operation and application of Law“;
        “I will uniformly enforce America’s unique practice of one common law – commonly applicable to all.”

        “When you vote rational people like me into office, you replace the incumbent employee criminals with all good guys which leaves no protection for the ousted incumbents from the full weight of criminal prosecutions and civil recovery suits against themselves [government employee criminals] for every criminal act related to being an agent of or otherwise aiding/abetting illegal aliens/illegal alien criminal enterprises.

        Think about it, 39,000 candidates in the field during the primary election = 19,500 D candidates and 19,500 R candidates on TV and at every meeting, campaigning for Every public office, running on the issue of securing government by Law [see 1 thru 5 above] …a government that is free from the whims of the political charlatans who now occupy, obstruct, and/or refuse to carry out the operation of the Law; whom instead, violate the public trust, loot the tax payers and country, while aiding and abetting illegal alien criminal activities.

        …..if nothing else, the idea of using both parties to put 39,000 primary candidates in the field, running for office on a government by law platform, should be discussed by the general political net users. So, you have a duty to move the idea of instituting government by law into the mainstream electoral discussions – with a healthy dose injected into the colleges and universities [in every case work in Austrian economics].

        The disgruntled voters : retired, set for life, young, old, middle class can easily locate one another, hire someone like me to tell them what is actually going on politically and where to find information they need; then, they will organize, put in motion, and operate a political solution for America that does not involve bankrupting the country or aiding illegal alien criminals… they can do this from the comfort of their current lives.
        Thanks, 1meamark@gmail.com

    • Bear

      I think John Myer proves what my father once said compairing opinions with a certain body part…..everyone has one. I also know that you can eat an elephant one bite at a time and it will take many chops of the axe to fell a big tree. I know Donald Trump, Jr. personally and have had, in the past, several conversations with him concerning his father, and his beliefs. My interpreatation of Sr. from his son’s own words, is that he is a very fair man. I feel, knowing that, that Donald Sr. is taking Obama to task over something that Obama has NOT been fair about. This, I conclude is but one chop of the axe or one bite from the elephant. A bite and a chop that nobody else in the political arena has had the balls to take. I applaude his tenacity. John Myer might be correct in pointing out that Donald Trump’s motivation for going after the birth certificate issue is multifaceted in so far as it might get him more attention for his show, The Apprentice, and for his bid for the 2012 Presidential run but, at the same time it comes not without a great deal of risk. There are many who have already labeled him as a “birther” and have begun hurling those “Liberal” negative stones that they are so famous for. I call those morons, “Deniers.” All of us are entitled to our opinion of what motivates someone and to draw our own conclusions about their goals and motives. One thing is glaringly obvious about the Trump’s actions though and that is that he is bringing attention, through his personal influence, to an issue that needs to be resolved and he is doing it a great personal risk to his own reputation and accountability. Who else besides WND’s own Joseph Farrah has take such a big risk? I believe that we should be watching to see what Donald Trump does from this point on. Don’t forget that he has also pointed out his personal disgust for how this country has fallen behind China as a world financial leader and how we have been working so hard to make China the most powerful nation onb the planet. I feel like someone who is a financial expert is better able to deal with this problem than some law student. Look at all that Trump is doing and saying and think about it.

      • Bruce D.

        Trump should be in the race and have his say. In 2008 many in the Republican Party tried to get Ron Paul out of the debates and the Party . Paul said in a debate that the Republican Party cannot afford to be kicking people out of the party as it has been shrinking fast over the years. No one talked about kicking him out of the party after that.

      • Kate8

        Sorry, guys, but I can’t get past the fact that Trump has always supported the Democrat Party, and hangs with the likes of Soros.

        That should throw up multiple red flags. Remember the tactic of “raising up a hero of the people”.

      • Kate8

        You know how you know that politicians are crooks?

        They spend multi-millions to get a job that pays $100,000 (figure of speech. I know it’s a bit more).

      • Old Dog

        Please open yr eyes- trump is not the man for the job!!!!

      • Pathfinder

        Old Dog : I think that you are correct. While I like the things that Trump is SAYING now; Where was he hiding two years ago ? Trump’s sudden turn around on a number of issues makes me doubt his sincerity. Will Donald Trump talk a good game while campaigning, only to act like a big spending socialist one in office ?? I, for one, do NOT trust Donald Trump to support the constitution IF he gets elected. For this reason, I do not support Trump for president. I strongly suspect that Donald Trump is just another RINO.

    • Tom S

      Bottom line, Trump will end up being the obama ticket to re-election ala Ross Perot Trump. He alreadcy said he would run as an Independent if he didn’t get the Republican nomination. This is the Clinton election all over again. We need to get the Independent voters to realize what Trump is up to so “history doesn’t repeat itself”.

      • Carlucci

        I don’t know about that, Tom S. In the nineties, Jesse Ventura ran on an independent ticket for governor of Minnesota and only spent three hundred thousand dollars to do it, while his opponents spent millions. Jesse Ventura won that election by a landslide. It can be done when everybody (voters) get on the same page.

      • Kate8

        Carlucci – Did you hear the interview with Ventura the other night?

        He personally knows Trump. Firstly, he said he didn’t really think Trump was serious about running. Secondly, he said that Trump has always gone off and similar tangents, just for the attention.

        There has to be reason Trump is being allowed to bring issues (like the BC) to the forefront, when everyone else has been threatened into silence. If he had anyone worried, he’d be silenced, too.

      • Carlucci

        Kate – I missed that interview with Jesse Ventura the other night, but I did see one the other day and posted it on this blog yesterday. He was on a book tour and gave an interview. He also mentioned in the interview his victory running for governor of Minnesota, and only spending $300,000 to trounce his opponents. He said the CIA “invited” him to come talk to them, and they wanted to know how he won the election, especially since he only spent less than a million bucks.

        JV is so awesome. I wish we could clone him and the Doctors Paul.

      • Karolyn

        Hey, Dave, do you still have that link to the article about the drug war keeping black youth down? I lost it.

      • Stephan F.

        You may be on to something there Tommy.

        Re-electing Fuhrer Obama — or any number of his other clones for that matter — will be an absolute unmitigated disaster for the country. This maniac must be thrown out of office with abandon in the next election cycle (that means “at all costs” for those of you in California). There’s no denying it & few would argue the point. So how will this best be achieved?

        If one agrees with my assessment then there’s only one position to take — support the candidate who has the best percentage chance to win (based on up-to-date polling), even if that means pulling the lever for Donald Trump (Yuk!), or Mickey Mouse for that matter. Barry must be sent packing, this is a given. So you can just forget about any idea of being an ideological & disciplined voter this upcoming election (I’m talking to you Constitution Party, Green Party, Libertarian Party, etc.) and get use to the idea of voting for the (probable) front-running Republican. Because if you do vote third-party you will very probably be guaranteeing the reelection of a tyrant. Think about it.

      • Pathfinder

        Stephan F. : Sorry, but that is wrong. IF the candidate with the best % chance to win is NOT a true supporter of the constitution; then we all still lose. It does no good to elect a socialist dictator with an “R” behind his name. We already tried that with Bush 43. He and the RINO controlled congress (Remember there wher RINO majorities in both the house and the senate.) went on a spending spree. This upset the American people so much, that they elected Barry Soetoro, who is EVEN worse than Bush was. We must insist that real constitutionalists are nominated and elected. DON’T VOTE FOR ANY RINOS !!!

      • Old Dog

        Bravo! you hit the nail right on the head

      • Pathfinder

        Tom S : Exactly !! I agree 100 % I also think that Trump is just another Ross Perot.

      • libertytrain

        Pathfinder, I just said the same thing last week in a conversation I was having.

    • JeffH

      Claire, your “gut instinct” is correct. As Meyers said, we want to defeat Obama’s American Hope & Change lies so bad many look to anyone with a quick lip and a fresh face in the political arena to be “the one”. Trump is entertaining though.

      • Kate8

        JeffH and Claire – I get the troubling vision of a pied piper…

      • JeffH

        Kate8, has the Pied Piper ever stopped piping?

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Nope, ’cause the people keep following.

      • http://deleted Claire

        JeffH and Kate8–There are a number of pied pipers–scary.

    • Andon

      It really matters not who runs … who is elected President … and most of you know that. Presidents have no powers except to follow the agenda already established by the ones behind, the ones we don’t see but have all the power necessary in determining what the prez will do or not do, what he will say or not say. Why would every one be bent out of shape about Obama’s birth certificate now? The time to force him to show the BC would have been before he got elected. He’s been President for three years now? So why start now. It is obvious that he is not an American born citizen otherwise he would have gladly shown his birth certificate rather than spend millions of dollars in legal fees to hide his true identity. So much simpler to show the paper.

      So, get ready to see another show for 2012. And again, it’ll be business as usual … and the business as usual has nothing to do with the people and for the people. Get a grip on that one. It’s a corporate government we have and not a Republic any longer. So let’s watch the show and protect your assets the best you can, cause it all may fall apart sooner than later. I’ll stop now. Thank you. Andon

      • Pathfinder

        Andon : Check out how an organization, known as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) continues to remain in power in DC, regardless of which party (democrat or republican) is in office.

        You may find this to be a real eye opener.

    • Black Rose

      Claire,
      I have to disagree with you I think Donald Trump is the answer to our problems. I am glad he’s getting downright dirty looking after American people for finding the truth about Obama birth certificate. We need justice now not waiting for 2012 to come around. Obama is not for the American people at all. He is a Muslim and he is destroying America. We need Donald Trump to find out the truth for us Americans and so he can say “your fire” to Obama. I also think Donald Trump would make a great President because if he can run a business and still come out ahead with his experience I think he can turn America around fast. We need a tough person who knows how to run a business and government is a business if you know or not. So I say to you Claire and John sure Donald has something up his sleeve but it’s for the good of our country so don’t knock what Donald Trump is doing. You must love Obama communism world to say anything against a true American to find out the truth about our so called President Obama.

      • libertytrain

        Good Grief, you obviously do not read Claire’s postings to make a comment like this one.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Black Rose— Okay, you said your piece. Good for you. I will tell you this, I have a right to vote for whomever I want, just like you do. I don’t “love” any politician nor any political party. And no, I don’t like Trump and I certainly will not vote for him. If you think this makes me an Obama lover, go for it. Your opinion on anything means nothing to me. I am not a person to be pushed around, go push someone else into your way of thinking, I am not interested.

      • JeffH

        Claire, tell it the way it is…you go girl!

      • Pathfinder

        Black Rose : I hate Obama and socialism in all its forms, especially communism. My main objection to Donald Trump is that he has arrived to the movement late. I like the things that Trump is saying now. BUT, why was he so quite two years ago ? Why was he making such big campaign contributions to Charlie Wrangel ? He is TALKING a good game now. BUT, can you really trust him to support the constitution IF he actually gets into office ?? I see Trump functioning much as Ross Perot did. The Trump candidacy is a “red herring” being used to split our conservative vote and keep Obama in office.

    • Carlucci

      Well, since today’s article is about the Donald, I thought I would share this email link that I just received from Vanity Fair magazine.
      I burst out laughing when I saw what he said about “the weeper of the house”.

      Everyone can say what they will about Trump, but I have to admit that he’s very entertaining:

      http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/04/donald-trump-letter-201104

      • http://deleted Claire

        Carlucci– I have to agree with you on Trump–some of the things he has said has made me laugh like the dickens. And the “Weeper of the House” –that is really funny.

    • mark

      don’t like several things about Mr. Trump, and look at how BHO played the voters with his rhetoric.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Claire,
      I’m beginning to wonder if that program he is on is to get Nobummer REELECTED!!! He did vote for him! He has flipped on being pro abortion, or at least he says he has. He has flipped on Nobummer, or says he has! I’m very wary of him!!! He seems to be trying very hard to say EVERYTHING people want to hear!!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        JoeH–You never know–you may very well be correct in what you say. I just don’t think he is on the up and up. Something is screwy.

      • Pathfinder

        Joe H. : Exactly !! I agree.

    • http://www.maxzonemarketing.thecustomeradvantage.com Harold Whiteley

      Hummmm? Well, my comments are MORE to the article than to Thomas Parkes comments/points. I’d only say to Thomas: What did the 19 fellas and gals, all lined up, at the pre-30 month RUN for the OVAL OFFICE, make you feel like, if Trumps gives you a certain degree of unrest? geezes, remember that line-up from both parties, which if you go right, and keep going, and if you go left and keep going, eventually you will MEET together, and that’s just what the two parties have done, in my observing opinion, they are one of the same, on the flip side of the SAME COIN!! NO differnece, and the same ole rethroic of BLAME, BLAME, BLAME, DEFEND, DEFEND, DEFLECT, DEFLECT, REFRAM, REFRAME, BULLSHIT AND MORE BULLSHIT, FINGER POINTING, FINGER POINTING, AND ESPECIALLY (NOT SCREAMING, JUST RAISING MY TONE) that ONLY independents can/will/shall RISE to the level of speaking for the common little broke Main St. America tax-payers….and so, if trump can help MIX IT UP, WAKE US UP, GET US TO RANTING AND RAVING (Like I’m doing just now) then he’s a winner in my row boat!!…as the BIG PARTY SHIPS have created a WAKE behind them, that drowns all our row boats!! Just saying. Than, as for the rest of his article, AFTER the Trump beating up…scourring and souring, the basic facts and connections to his article are right on POINT, as far as all my personally connected research and reviewing of the 5Ws, the who, the what, the when, the where and the way…:-) PEACE Brothers and Sisters US-TAX PAYERS and independents, as I feel the two party system are the same end of the two headed rattle-snake!! Under ONE HOLY GOD, we shall trust, AMEN!! Harold Whiteley, DFW Metro TEXAS area!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree its good to solve the questions of the legality of the phony birth certificate they tried to show, and the missing college papers, and many other mysterious things about this Obama guy, that the press should have investigated when he was politicking for office, instead of hiding it all. Shame on the liberal press for that. But Donald Trump is not the answer. The guy lives off other peoples money. He is a bank millionaire. He has filed bankruptcy more than once. Without the banks backing his ventures, he has nothing. No, this guy is not the answer, but I along with millions of other would like to have this birth certificate thing done once and for all. And Obama having spent millions to hide it, obviously shows he doesnt have a legitimate American birth certificate, and shame on our political procedures that doesnt make sure of this before a candidate even gets to run.

      • Pathfinder

        Beberoni : I agree. Shame on the politicians for not keeping their oaths and not supporting the constitution.

    • Dave

      Am I reading this correctly – the “birther” issue, founded on Constitutionality is a ruse to side track investigation on the rest of BHO?
      IMO BHO makes William Jefferson look like Geo. Washington!!! Though we know that “Slick Willie” wasn’t born in Hope, at least he was born in Ark. and served as governor for a term. BHO is claiming to have been born here (he wasn’t, his father was of dual citizenship (Slick’s wasn’t), and he never served a complete term as Senator of Il. At least the Clinton’s served as lawyers; BHO and his main squeeze have been disbarred from being lawyers, BHO was a lecturer and not scholar of Constitutional Law and given his substantial sum hiding his origins, education, affiliations, etc (Ayers couldn’t help himself any longer without outing his authorship of Dreams…)
      These and countless other errors should tip off anyone (minus “the Donald’s” revelations) that BHO is indeed what Trump says he is – a major scam artist dwarfing the likes of Berny Madoff.
      Business acumen can be hired; Trump smells too much of “old school” liberalism. No doubt he speaks for a sizable number of people – those who would back the likes of “Billary”.

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      • Pathfinder

        Dave : I like your post. Just one minor correction. Michelle has NOT been disbarred. She is, however, on the inactive list and can return to practice with little difficulty. (We do not want to overstate our own case and have our credability undermined.) Other than that, great post. The sooner we can remove BHO and Moochelle fro the whitehouse; the better.

    • tom heikkinen

      Well Trump will give this country integrity. Obama will destroy this country in another 4 years in office. We will loose our christian values on awhat this country was built on, and we will be ,living from hand to mouth. I don’t see anybody else on the scene that can defeat Obama. Trump can deal with France and China who are trying to railroad the dollar as the currency of the world for another option. And, Trump can restore fiscal integrity in the Unites States. Obama spends like it is his money. By the way after Obama got elected one of his group dislodeged a friend of mine in Florida who lost his business after 20 years by bid. The other party had insider information. He said he was Obamasized.

      • Pathfinder

        I see a large number of candidates, all of whom can defeat BHO. To name just a few : Herman Cain, Bachmann, Jindal, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Allen West, Sarah Palin, and Alan Keyes. One thing we should wait for and see, is how the first few primaries work out. Watch to see which candidates actually announce that they are in the running and see what shakes out. In the meantime, I am making it clear that IF the republicans want my vote; they had better NOT offer me some RINO as their candidate. DON’T VOTE FOR RINOS !!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Mitt Romney also.

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