There is always some doofus that doesn’t read the site but feels the need to try and create an issue that doesn’t exist. If he did read the site he’d know that Bob doesn’t sell gold or silver.

Even if he did, so what? One of the wisest statements I ever heard was “don’t assume any offer is too good to be true without first hearing and then carefully considering the terms”.
That assumption is one thing that keeps the common man from succeeding. The truth is that no deals would ever be made if everybody thought that way. That is a major reason that only a small percentage of people are successful (in the economic sense).

Good article on the Federal Reserve:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/19-reasons-why-the-federal-reserve-is-at-the-heart-of-our-economic-problems

I believe you are correct. Bob Livingston said as a rule he doesn’t recommend specific stocks etc. on this site. However in his Bob Livingston Letter he make recommendations on specific things. I also believe the whole point of this site, was to encourage people to succeed in life in many facets —

Most or all of the rightwing sites and media are making money selling advertising to gold and solver pushers…also dried food and survival supplies. They all fit in w/ the armageddon and doom and gloom tone coming from the rightwing. Money,money…

Denniso, Do you not understand how newspapers, magazines, television, cable, satellite, and now websites have operated all these years. Advertising. I still don’t understand why you spend so much time here if you find it so distasteful?

Further if you find one of these places not funded by advertising, they are more than likely funded by the government via our taxes.

You don’t get it? Advertising is one thing, advertising products that fit one particular slant on the news and world view is another. The rightwing sites fearmonger and rant about armageddon and coming collapse,and then capitalize on the fear they’ve helped create by selling advertising for products like gold and dried food.
A bit like a church scaring you about a pretend Hell,and then telling you to pay it money to get a ‘stay out of Hell card’. It’s called exploitation,not advertising.

I realize you feel the need to insult me,but I won’t retaliate in kind. I come here because there are a few sane and balanced people trying to inject some reason into people and debates here,and I intend to help in that regard. I also view it as practice in debating people w/ extreme rightwing views,who I see as a threat to our country
and a civil way of life,and that all of us who can stand up to these extremists need to where ever we find them. It also helps me frame my positions in opposition to extremists.

Denniso: This comment of yours above re the advertising – was nothing less than an insult to not only Personal Liberty – but the readers as well. To pretend otherwise demonstrates your over-inflated ego. You just had to do it…

You want to defend some of the readers here who post racist comments,habor pure hate for those they disagree w/,exhibit there loathing and hate for the president of the United States,equate Dems and liberals w/ vermin or communists/marxists? You seldom go after rightwingers doing that but find the time to nitpick my comments that never sink to those levels…something wrong there.

Actually Denniso, I do – far more than you have the eyes to see.

I’ve been here a yr and a half. I’ve only seen you go after the racists and haters a couple of times. If you do it more, then good for you. Others here should it as well,but it’s seldom done by so called conservatives.

Denniso – you have no idea the length many conservative types go through to protect other people from the racists and the haters of this world.

I responded the other day and somehow it’s gone.

I said,’that is quite a twist on what is actually reality’. If the current tea party and so called ‘conservatives’ had held power back in the 60′s we would still not have voting rights for anyone but the wealthy white. If they held power back in the 1860′s we would still have slavery. If they had existed in enough numbers in 1922 we would still have women w/ the vote. The rightwing thinks that if we just keep gov’t out of everything except the military, we will all be totally free and safe from bigotry and discrimination.

You can’t believe that…

It’s amazing – you are quite a soothsayer – however, I can’t agree with you.

Rates are TOO HIGH regardless of your failed grasp of taxation.
Write-offs are at their LOWEST!
Corporatge Taxes are the highest in the WORLD!
Have you ever heard of economy of scale??

Having A fact doesn’t make you informed. Stop offering your propoganda.

Any taxes are too high for you and your type. If our corporations are struggling to pay their taxes,like GE paying almost none,you sure couldn’t guess it by their corporate health and record breaking profits…poor corporations,can only pay their CEO’s $30 million and more per yr,and offer stock options in the hundreds of billions.

You need to think of taxes as the dues to belong to the wealthiest and one of the safest and most secure countries in the world,where people can do business,make money and sometimes retire in total comfort.

‘hundreds of millions’

Interesting date. Dec 21st 2012

Geez, I better dust off my distiller….

A correction in gold is considered healthy. As long as Obama is in office there will be no crash in gold. Obama has created a hostile environment for business. Until he is gone gold we keep rising. We still need to go though the hyper-inflation Obama has laid the groundwork for which will cause gold to go up even further. As unemployment comes down and consumer confidence goes up gold may be venerable. But that will not happen under Obama’s watch.

Remember –Bush and BO are nothing more than puppets -their strings are pulled by the bankers in the Federal Reserve system and the Federal reserve is not part of “our” government and this government is also owned by the bankers–The “golden Rule” those that have the gold -make the rules–Bush started it and BO is continuing it -NWO–This is all by their plan

This started when the Federal Reserve started. Way before Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federal_Reserve
It really got going in 1907 but was started before then.

For anybody that thinks Denniso has even the slightest clue of what’s going on, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation#Argentina

Even better, read the whole article about Hyperinflation if you have the time.
I like the example of Argentina because in the late 1800s they were very much in the same economic position as the United States was. And their geography is very similar to the United States. They were ranked well into the top 10 economies of the world (I think #3 at one time, now ranked 37th). Then Big Government took hold. Progressives, much like we are dealing with now, took control and pushed their redistribution of wealth schemes.
There is no limit to the price of hard commodities when the Federal Reserve is allowed to create money out of thin air. The increasing price of those commodities has nothing to do with their value and everything to do with the loss of value of the unbacked paper dollar.
It may not be long before we are on the list of examples in Wikipedia’s Hyperinflation article.
Denniso has been on this board long enough to know better, so the only reasonable conclusion that I can come to is that he thinks he will benefit by the destruction of our dollar.

The United States is not and has never been Argentina…poor example. Look back at the late 70′s and early 80′s if you want to compare,when inflation was relatively high and interest rates hit 18% or so…but it didn’t last very long,did it? We survived and will survive this economic problem w/o looking like a third world country.

DaveH says he has two degrees,so he should know some grammar. He says,’anybody THAT thinks’, when it should be,’anybody WHO thinks’.
It’s a common mistake that is rampant in our country,and I guess DaveH is a common sort of guy…

‘That’ is used when referring to things, ‘who’ when referring to people.

Denniso – a quick review of your post on April 8th above demonstrates that perhaps you should not critique another person for grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc.

Point out what you think is wrong w/ my comment. Spelling or punctuation is not the same as using the completely wrong word,’that’ rather than ‘who’, when referring to a person.

Sorry kid, wrong is wrong. That you are creating your own order of what is considered “more wrong” reminds me of the Left. Changing the rules to accommodate itself. I don’t need to point out your errors – you should be able to figure that out yourself. Wrong is wrong in spelling, punctuation, capitalization of words, etc. We all make errors from time to time, but for you to point them out while making your own is beyond silly and a tad bit arrogant –

So wrong is wrong? You really think there are no gradations in how wrong something is,no shading in degree of error? Sounds like the typical rightwing absolutist approach for everything,where all is black and white,good and bad.

So if I use a double negative…’I don’t believe nothing about nothing’,or, ‘ain’t no good never comes from nothing’, you think that’s no worse than using a comma or not incorrectly? It’s possible to use flawed grammar,it does get overly complicated I agree,but still sound like you have a brain,while some more extreme flaws make one sound like an imbecile,and even obstruct the message.

I don’t usually point out grammatical or spelling errors as it happens to all of us,unless it makes a comment unintelligible or ridiculous. I poked a bit at DaveH because we have a bit of a running war going on and he can become abusive and so certain that I can’t resist when he,w/ 2 degrees,makes one of the most obvious and common mistakes w/ grammar.

“So wrong is wrong? You really think there are no gradations in how wrong something is,no shading in degree of error?”

I never was taught that some things in grammar are in various gradations of correct or incorrect. I did not get graded on a curve because my punctuation was almost correct or my spelling was only missing one letter or my use of proper nouns were sometimes capped. Perhaps you were.

The thing is that we aren’t in elementary school anymore,are we? If you don’t think some errors are worse than others,then I guess that’s why you’re a rightwinger,and I’m a thinker.

Frankly, my dear your greatness of thought lies only within the realm of your own brain cells. And, you are correct, I try to hold on to the basic rules of our society that I learned in school, if not, what is the point of proper spelling, grammar, language, common decency, mores, etiquette, and so much more? Without the skeleton or backbone of a society we have no society -

Being a thinker does not mean one has any ‘greatness of mind’, only that one tries to actually think instead of just act on rote learning. School is just the beginning of learning and we should continue it for our entire lives…if we stop learning how to think w/ the end of school,and school really doesn’t teach thinking anyway, we end up stuck mentally in our 20′s…you disagree w/ that?

I do not disagree that learning is something we do our entire life. That’s a given. I do tend to think that becoming lackadaisical about what basic rules we follow is very convenient, self-serving and leads to a disruption of the structure of our society – kind of like what we have been seeing these last several years. A slow crumbling – mostly because of the “it’s not a big deal” kind of attitude. A breakdown of the basics of civility.

Denniso, I agree, when people get scared and start buying gold, its price can soar past normal inflation, but then it just moves sideways for awhile before it continues upward. Gold simply reflects the amount of paper dollars in circulation, and with more deficit spending locked in, its price will continue to rise accordingly.

We had huge deficit spending under Reagan in the 80′s,and gold sat still for a decade or more. Deficit spending is nothing new and has been part of the gov’t for nearly a century. People are pushing gold as a hedge against collapse or inflation,and they are being successful in driving up the price.

You are right there. Most coin dealers that I have bought from look at the spot proce of gold and silver. Go to http://www.goldseek.com for these prices. That will give you an idea what to expect when you go in to buy.

Vigilant. The elites want you to hold there worthless paper. By buying and physically holding PM’s pisses them off to the nth power.

In a hyperinflationary economy, a banana or a bullet could be of tremendous value. Just imagine what real money could be worth or what it will do for you when things reset…None of us no the outcome but why not buy some PM’s. Let’s take the risk together!

Think about it. You eat a banana, you can fire a bullet from a gun, a silver coin will be of irrefutable valuable.

People have no PM’S may have excesses of other items and know that they can trade or save them…We are a resourceful lot and will need to use our brains more than ever.

Better have alot of dollars to build that fire!

At least silver coins could be melted down to make Werewolf bullets.

Sorry Guys, no disrepect intended. Just struck me as funny.

Ahoooooooooooo. Ar, ar, hooooooo.

At some point, people no longer want paper currency for their wares, commodities, vehicles, etc. Particularlly, the US dollar — the Fed had been printing all these $’s(or counterfeiting) and exchange them for useful, practical items(imports). So when they(domestic and foreign) smarten up about what’s been going on with the counterfeiting $, they just stop accepting the $, and then we’ll be (offensive word removed) up for real, folks! Thus, only gold and silver coins(real money) can obtain you the necessities of life!

Vigilant, there are coin shops all over the contry, where one can buy or sell precious metal coins. Gold and silver are just commodities, that can be traded anywhere in the world.

No kidding! And you can always cannibalize them. I couldn’t, but some could. 101 ways to wok your dog!

DG, President FDR had possession of gold outlawed when it was about $25/oz. Then after confiscating Americans’ gold, he raised the price to $35/0z. which devalued the dollar – not gold – and essentially swiped 40% of gold-holders’ purchasing power. Gold closed yesterday at $1187/oz., an all-time high. The price of gold reflects the decreasing value of the dollar. For example houses don’t get more valuable as they age, they depreciate just like cars do. Since the Roaring Twenties, the dollar has lost over 95% of its value. But the value of gold never changes, an ounce of gold buys the same amount of corn, beans or wheat, today, as it did in 1925, it just takes more dollars, now, to buy it.

Correction, Gold closed yesterday at $1487/oz.