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Six Senators Smear Rand Paul

April 1, 2011 by  

Six Senators Smear Rand Paul

If you live in Florida, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania or Rhode Island there is something I hope you will do. Call or write your Senator and ask him or her why he/she helped launch a vicious anti-Semitic smear of the new junior Senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul.

This is not an April fool’s joke. I wish it were. Here is what happened:

In February, the six Senators I’m talking about—Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.), Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Robert Casey (D-Penn.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.)—sent an open letter to House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers lambasting Paul for daring to suggest that the United States “halt all foreign aid, including its financial aid, to Israel.” The Senators were shocked, shocked I tell you, that the freshman Senator would have the unmitigated gall to suggest such a thing.

You will probably not be surprised to learn that the Senators’ letter was a massive distortion of what Paul actually said. Nor should you be surprised to learn that the mainstream media quoted their scolding with undisguised glee. And of course, totally ignored the truth of what the libertarian Senator actually said. So let me give it to you straight.

First, did Paul advocate cutting off foreign aid to Israel? Absolutely! From the very first moment he began campaigning for a seat in the U.S. Senate, he said that he would work to halt all foreign aid to everyone. Paul never singled out Israel, as the anti-anti-Semites in the Senate pretend. He believes that it is almost insane for this country to borrow money from China so we can give it away to half of the world—and in many cases to countries that use our aid to suppress their own population and/or kill their neighbors.

In his actual statement, which the mainstream media pretend does not exist, Paul pointed out that the U.S. sends four times more aid to Israel’s enemies than we do to that poor beleaguered country.

Well, strike “poor” from the above sentence. Israel has become such a technological and agricultural phenomenon that its citizens enjoy one of the highest per capita incomes in the world. Sure, some of the oil-rich countries have more wealth. But almost all of their money is concentrated in the hands of a few ruling sheiks and their families. The average male in most Muslim countries lives in abject poverty, no matter how many billions his rulers have. And the average female is even worse off.

Israel, on the other hand, is one of the most egalitarian countries in the world. Even the Muslims who live there enjoy more rights than in any of the Arab states that surround Israel.

This whole brouhaha began on Jan. 26, when CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked Paul whether he believed the United States should “end all foreign aid, including foreign aid to Israel.” You will not be surprised to learn that Paul gave an immediate and emphatic yes.

He then continued, “When you send foreign aid, you actually send quite a bit to Israel’s enemies. Islamic nations around Israel get quite a bit of foreign aid, too. So really, you have to ask yourself, are we funding an arms race on both sides?”

Paul went on to declare that he has “a lot of sympathy and respect for Israel, as a democratic nation, as a fountain of peace and a fountain of democracy within the Middle East. But at the same time, I don’t [believe in] funding both sides of the arms race, particularly when we have to borrow money from China to send it to someone else. We just can’t do it anymore.”

Can anyone with enough sense to come in out of the rain disagree with anything in that statement?

As it turns out, many Israelis are on Paul’s side in this debate. Yuval Levin of the Jerusalem-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies is the author of a study called American Aid to the Middle East. In it he says that American aid to Israel is “a tragedy of good intentions.”

He goes on to explain, “Analysis of the economic consequences of aid must conclude that aid slows growth, stifles economic activity, encourages inefficiency and keeps alive Israel’s socialist system. It is profoundly counterproductive for the Jewish state.”

I suspect a lot of Israelis agree with Levin. And let me mention another issue that is almost never addressed in the U.S. media but is of deep and abiding concern to many citizens in Israel. That is the economic and political blackmail their leaders must pay whenever U.S. leaders decide to throw their weight around.

There is a “mentality of dependence” in Israel many Jews detest. Their leaders are too subservient to the United States, even when U.S. policy is harmful to their country.

Need proof? Our government forced Israel to accept the creation of the Palestinian Authority, which immediately became the captive of terrorists from Hamas and Fatah. But not only did we force them to accept it, we also demanded they stand meekly by while we used foreign aid to arm its members.

Abu Yousef, a senior official of the Palestine Authority and an admitted terrorist, once boasted, “I do not think the operations of the Palestine resistance would have been so successful and would have killed more than 1,000 Israelis since 2000 and defeated Israel in Gaza” without such assistance from America.

That’s sure something to be proud of, isn’t it? Our aid helped terrorists kill 1,000 Israelis. And yet six U.S. Senators try to smear Paul for trying to call a halt to such madness.

I know many of my conservative colleagues disagree with me on this. Gary Bauer, a Washington analyst and activist I’ve admired for a long time, has staunchly defended American aid to Israel. In his daily blog, he argued, “The U.S. gives billions of dollars a year to foreign countries that hate us and regularly vote against us at the United Nations. But Israel votes with the U.S. 97% of the time. They are a loyal ally that shares our values. The aid they receive is used to buy military equipment from U.S. companies, so the money comes back to us.”

That may all be true. But so what? If all foreign aid to the Middle East were stopped, wouldn’t Israel be a lot better off? And besides, knowing how fanatical many Jews in the U.S. are about supporting Israel, don’t you think that their private contributions would more than make up for any loss of official government aid?

As my friend Doug Casey puts it, most of the time foreign aid means taking money from poor people in this country who really need it and giving it to rich people in other countries, who merely steal it.

I say, stop it all. If you agree, tell your Senators and Representative. Let’s end the madness this year.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Les

    The devil is in the details. Foreign aid is not that foreign. We give money to countries with the stipulation the the money gets spent buying US weapons systems. This is the best white collar welfare scheme on the planet. Stop all foreign aid, stop trying to buy your friends. Also stop the evil Clowns In Action.

    I like the statement where the writer believes funding Israel is why we are being attacked by Islam. Islam means subjugation, it does not mean peace. They will continue to attack until they control everything. Then they will attack each other, such is the true nature of Islam.

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Get rid of all foreign aid. The money always has a tendency to end up in Swiss Bank Accounts.

  • meteorlady

    We should definitely quit foreign aid. It’s so we can hold something over the country when we need a vote in the UN or a treaty signed, or whatever. It’s just another waste of taxpayer money and it needs to stop. As for Israel, well I think they might be happy also.

  • Jack Taylor

    I suggest the “smear” senators check themselves in the mirror and they will see that to smear anyone, you have to be free of lies, corruption, distortions, etc. There is a thick stream of feces erupting from each of their mouths.

    • Kenna

      From their mouths to your ears. Ew.

  • Larry and Beth

    Support Isreal ? Maybe? Support the Theiving Zionists? NO! Isreal has been a leech on the US far to long. Isreal is not our friend. They spy on us, they have attacked us, and the constant cry of theirs! “Woe is us” why is everyone picking on us” is getting worn out. Sure they are GODS people, They Said So..So let tis god of theirs provide what they need to kill and mame people with.

    • Thamera

      Larry and Beth why don’t the two of you knock your heads together. I know people from Israel personally and your assessment of their situation couldn’t be further off track. They are some of the most fearless, independent and giving people I have known. They are not the ones crying “woe is me” even though they ARE constantly under attack!

      • Bitter Libertarian

        I dont believe thats a realistic statement Israel = Good. The Isrealites are absolutely Gods Chosen people, but who is to say except God who exactly that lives in Israel is one of those people? I do not believe that just because someone lives in Isreal they are automatically good. Thats too simple of a notion, and dont you believe in evil? Dont you think that Satan would have a few of his agents in Israel??? Kinda Obvious thats EXACTLY where I would have agents to do my works! NOT saying Isreal is Evil either, but you cant blindly support any nations Goverment without realizing they too are subject to the same corruption & evil our own goverment is!~
        Support the people yes…support another goverment???? Insane…Tell me where it says the Israel Goverment is mentioned in the bible…its NOT and not blow smoke at me with the jibbirish that every person who claims to be Jewish is…

    • Lewis Munn

      I cannot think of an unprovoked attack they made, in my adult lifetime anyhow, and I have see lots of support from them. They can even give us lessons in security, IF our liberals will listen.

      People have been jew-haters from way way back though, and never seem to get over it! Even if they have no real reason. Mostly envy that the jews succeed! Even though persecuted.

      Jews have been persecuted through history, and still have survived and done well.

      Why do people continue to persecute the Jews, to their own hurt? Even over here today? History shows that the jews get right back up again after what seems knockout blows, and do well.

      Perhaps there is something we can learn from them?? If we are willing?

      Seems to me if evil men like Hitler hated the jews, they must be doing some things right!!

  • terry

    We elected members of the Tea Party to put this Country on the right track. It is not surprising that when they begin to, those in the wrong try to push to distort. I totally agree with Rand. I hope he will also be vocal about the sending of US troops anywhere else in the world to lose their lives for countries who would blow us to bits in a heartbeat if they had the weapon.

  • JC

    Paul went on to declare that he has “a lot of sympathy and respect for Israel, as a democratic nation, as a fountain of peace and a fountain of democracy within the Middle East. But at the same time, I don’t [believe in] funding both sides of the arms race, particularly when we have to borrow money from China to send it to someone else. We just can’t do it anymore.”

    Anyone who could disagree with that statement on any level, is a complete ass.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Well put!

  • kathryn

    the six senators i believe have lost their hold on realty and civility.Senator pauls in stopping all foreigh aid. It is time to think of our country for a change. Anybody with a ounce of brains knows that you cannot buy friends or loyalty.

    • meteorlady

      The liberal rats are fighting hard to keep their place at the money trough. They will do and say anything – even lie profusely – to keep the American public on their side. The sad thing is that a lot of people believe the drivel that they spew.

      • DaveH

        That’s because they want to believe the lies. When people are allowed to ride on unwilling donors’ backs, they won’t give up that assistance easily.

  • newspooner

    Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. Otherwise, all freedom will soon be lost.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    I would suggest that you send this article to those Senators who are against Senator Paul’s proposed new foreign policy objectives in the matter of foreign aide. You are preaching to the choir as far as those who subscribe to your web-site are concerned. But the intentions for the aide should not even be considered when you don’t have it and have to borrow it to give out. We need someone to give us aide in order to stop the deficits, balance the budget, and reduce the national debt. You might put out feelers to find someone who might help assist us by giving us foreign aide, because of the insanity of our politicians, we really need it.

    • DaveH

      I’m with you on stopping the aid, but I must say that this country is in trouble for one reason only — our Leviathan Government.
      Our Governments (local and Federal) now spend 40% of our GDP. In the 1950s, they spent only 20% (still too much). I lived through the 50s. I can tell you from personal experience that things weren’t any worse then than they are now. In fact, I think the people were generally more cordial and respectful of others then than they are now.
      Leaders look out for themselves. The citizens need to wake up to that fact.

      • Barbara

        Basic common sense. When I have no money, I don’t borrow to spend. I do without until I can afford to spend. I agree that the 50′s were a more civil era. Kids used to sleep outside under a tree. We rarely locked our doors. We could depend on our neighbors to watch out for us and our kids. As we watched out for them and theirs.

        I just do not understand why anyone would want to give to people who are determined to destroy us. It is incredibly stupid. And to borrow to do it is insane.

        Foreign aid should be eliminated, completely. The allegedly “United” Nations is a gaping hole in our national security. We definitely should get out of it. And if we threw them out of our country, it would be wonderful. We would no longer have to watch criminals thumb their noses at our laws and claim “diplomatic immunity”. It would also eliminate another drain on our resources. We are expected to support them.

        As far as Israel is concerned, I am not worried about them. They have demonstrated their ability to support themselves and to defend themselves. The nation has been reestablished and will not be destroyed. We need to stop interfering with them. They are a staunch ally and totally trustworthy. Would that our government were. The only “aid” they need is a continuation of arms trade. And it is the only nation I would be willing to see our military stand beside.

      • Duffy

        I agree with Barbara 100%. In addition, it seems that many citizens do not realize our Country is in deep trouble and it is time that we
        wake up to reality. “united we stand,divided we fall” Let us pray that
        our politicians and the current less than desirable administration make appropriate decisions to save our Beloved Country,our economy,
        our morality,our values and our freedom.

      • Lewis Munn

        Agreed Got a well-thought out post.

      • Don

        DaveH, you are so right, i was in the military in the 50′s, and the people were much more cordial then!!

      • Karolyn

        All anyone has to do is read many of the posts here to prove that “In fact, I think the people were generally more cordial and respectful of others then than they are now.” (Dave’s words.)

      • DaveH

        Karolyn,
        I agree that you are much more respectful than most people of the Liberal mindset. And I appreciate that.

      • Carlucci

        Karolyn appears to want to weigh both sides. We need to cut her some slack.

  • http://none Shadyman

    The budget for all foreign aid should start at zero. Then let a house committee take testimony on why we should give money away to terrorist countries. Have an administration official explain where the Billions to Haiti went, and why it’s not getting to the needy.
    (Keep in mind all the millions in charitable giving.)

    This is zero-based budgeting, and would replace the practice of “last year’s spending plus 10%.”

    • meteorlady

      I think we have no right to give any money to a sovereign country. It’s like a business, if they fail it’s because their leadership is bad and needs to be replaced. Let the citizens of the country fight for their rights and freedoms. They would value them more and we would probably see a lot less of the really awful world dictators that we do today.

      • DaveH

        I’m with you 100% on that, meteorlady. Supporting people or countries just enables them to continue doing the wrong-headed things that got them in trouble in the first place.

      • Thamera

        Agreed, 100% And note to BobW. I hope you had the chance to read my response to your comment that you think that I think that our quality of life should be lowered to that of someone living in El Salvador. You mis-understand me completely and if you have read any other thing that I have posted how could you possibly make that inference?!?

      • Carlucci

        I’ve always wondered how many countries would come to our rescue in the event of disaster. The only one that I can think of lately was Norway, who volunteered to come and help clean up the Gulf after the BP explosion. I believe the Odumbo administration nixed that idea.

      • JC

        Carlucci…where do you think those inflatable levies came from after Katrina? (Hint, North of us);)

  • bob wire

    Rand Paul will need hang in there and endure, he is only a freshman piglet in a pen full of huge porkers. It’s a long game that he must play. He will be crushed by their sear weight if he not careful.

  • DaleK

    Senator Paul is mostly right; Our tax dollars for the main part, go to countries which hate us anyway. Why are we paying them off in our national treasure, only to have them crap in our face; it makes no sense, in fact it is down right stupidity. That being said, we need to make certain Israel is secure. With the present cadre of Israel-haters in the Administration, and with the “democratic” revolutions taking place in the Middle East (being assisted, no doubt, by those dunderheads in the White House), the ONLY free state in that region is facing extermination. Stay tuned, things will most likely become hot quite soon. Iran is pressing for dominance in that region, and will soon cause much more trouble. We need to stand with our few friends, and oppose our enemies.
    The United Nations is an expense we should also rid our selves of, as it is another example of the U.S. paying for an organization which opposes us at nearly every turn, and which clearly has values antithetical to our own.

    • DaveH

      Yes, get us out of the United Nations. And get them out of the US.

      • Mick

        DaveH says:
        April 1, 2011 at 9:07 am
        Yes, get us out of the United Nations. And get them out of the US.

        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
        let them soak in their own juices for awhile, and quit influencing and directing America’s way of life, and see how long they will last without American dollars/…

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Mick, with the existing Political garbage can, It will never happen.

      • JeffH

        Thank you!

  • http://aol evie hayes

    I think Senator Paul is right – I totally agree that when a country is in the terrible financial situation we are at, we help ourselves first, then what is left over, we help other countries. I also believe that all earkmarks should have never been approved last yearit’s a little late this year to recover the funding that went out for earmarks last year a terrible blunder on the President’s list of blunders!! As for SS I think that Pres Roosevelt wanted to help the Senior population, so he set up this fund for those who are trying to make it in the community rather than have them go to Nursing Homes and other programs federally funded, to afford our seniors to be able to stay in thie homes. So, our $”s need to stay in our Country until the budget is “fixed.” Rand Paul follows my principle – when you don’t have it, don’t give it away to people who really don’t need it!We need it right now! It doesn’t matter which country it is, other than Humanitarian help such as Japan’s recent tragic problems, our aid should be minimal to other countries – No other country gives when their own country is in trouble! Looking at this situation on a micro example, if your family were in trouble, would you give to everyone else regardless of whether they need it or not, rather than your own family who are in trouble ?See my point and why I support Rand Paul’s statement. Perhaps, the Senators who “knocked” Mr. Paul should think of our country as a family, perhaps they would agree with his views! As for helping our country, Social Security was solvent until the Trust fund was moved from the Trust fund account to the General account and the government used the dollars that were available for the situation of Baby Boomers and spent it with no legislature in place for repaying the Trust fund, so it isn’t SS that is going broke nor does it need to be reorganizaed, the government needs to provide a law to repay programs that have plenty of money in them that they use, rather than trying to reform an agency that had the money, but government moved it and spent it! That’s where our issues run at home – no checks and balances or no laws preventing these type issues where the agency is solvent and the government took a solvent agency and bankrupted it, but fail to mention this publicly.Our problem is in federal spending, robbing Peter to pay Paul who doesn’t need it!! Rand Paul is right – keep our $’s at home rather than giving to countries that really do not need it.

    • Disgusted

      To a point you are correct. When a disaster strikes a country everyone should be willing to “lend a hand” to get that country back on its feet. HOWEVER: We sent a billion dollars to Haiti and it is untraceable. Neither Clinton nor Bush who fought tooth and nail for that aid to be sent to Haiti after their natural disaster can account for any of that money. Now Japan has been devastated by a natural disaster, should we send money to them? Japan is one of the three richest countries in the world behind US and China. I don’t think they need our money – and offering our support should be good enough. We offered, it is now their decision to decide whether they want it or not. No monitary help – just logistical help.
      Where were the offers of help from all these countries we have been giving foreign aid to for years when 9-11 happened, or hurricane Katrina. We have had natural disasters within our own borders – I don’t remember hearing about any foreign aid helping us get back on our feet.
      Paul is completely right. I would vote for him if he ran for president – he seems to have a level head on his shoulders.

      • Robert S

        How many foreign countries sent aid to the people from the Katrina disaster?

      • Allen in reality

        I think Mexico did but for the support of their own:-)
        But I clearly see your point and it is a good one.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Robert S , The money was sent to the Obomb campaign.

      • JC

        Canada, on their own, anchored 3 Naval vessels, including a Hodpital ship, along with teams ready to commence rescue efforts, distribute food and water…but were told their help was not needed.

        “FEMA” had everything under control, but didn’t manage to kill as many as they would have liked.

      • Mike in MI

        Right, Disgusted -
        Not only can they not account for that Haitian aid money. But, it’s hard to see that Haiti’s situation has markedly improved. We send private and public money all over the world and except for churches and a few other charities the only set of conditions that seem to improve are muslim’s ability to wage genocide and commit mayhem, generally.
        No wonder Bush ’43 never complained at all about the enormous mess Clinton “left him” in. Bush ’41/Clinton/Bush ’43 all can be seen to be integral parts of the same piece of cloth. Now, this present fairy-fashion-fiend has taken the whole-cloth and turned it into his bridal apparel for his nuptials with the grim reaper.

    • Jeep

      evie, not that I totally disagree with your conclusions, but they are based on misinformation. What we refer to as Social Security was never intended to for just Seniors. It was and is a compilation of several existing programs and is actually called the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program. If you look at the title you can infer that SS actually covers a broad spectrum of the population, from Seniors to the disabled. Therein lies the rub with cutting SS. The focus has always been on Seniors benefits (such as raising the age of eligibility.) In fact, SS is just a giant govt run Ponzi scheme, wherein we pay into it now for a perceived “benefit” later. Didn’t we put Madhoff in jail for that? Personally I think the whole thing needs to be revamped and eventually let it die out.

      • Thamera

        You are not kidding Jeep. How many people know that you can get disability for being diagnosed with ADHD for example? I don’t plan on SS at all for my retirement. I don’t think anything is going to be ther by then. What a ruse!

      • Mike in MI

        Thamera
        “…by then.”(?) Why do you think the Thief-in-Chief wants to grab everybodys’ 401(K)’s and Roth’s and every other kind of pension fund accounts there happen to be anywhere – except Congressional and union pensions.
        Actually I don’t know why they even bother, ’cause as the dollar gets less and less valuable and begins crowding the number $Zero.oo aside…well…who would want the things – except as memorabilia?

      • Thamera

        haha ya, according to my own time table for retirement that would be in 25 years and I am sure that SS will be well depleted before then.

      • Lewis Munn

        As someone who helped my father work at an early age, and worked in various positions building up facilities, I now have a SS that is barely enough to live on, and huge utility and tax bills coming up.

        Both due to government actions. And NO COL. Another government action, against those of us who worked on SS and it was supposed to last, and we did not get paid enough to invest like rich folks.

        I had a family to rise!!

        Unfortunately, no jobs I am skilled in are still abound, and the government is not interested in helping me. My taxes keep going up and up, to support all the runaway and giveaway programs, both outside the US and inside the US.

        My wife worked, but when she died early all her set aside money was grabbed by the government, who does not believe in family units.

        I understand how hard it is for the elder to survive under the government who takes so much of our money to pay off kids who do not work but keep having children, or came in illegally and are growing big families on Welfare.

        We have a real mess in Washington. And the old folks are being shoved aside! We will be executed to give more money to Washington, and no chance to pass on the family to our grandchildren.

        With all the new programs to help unions, and rich people, and politicians, we older folks are forgotten. I suspect if all the illegal aliens we support now were cleared out en masse, there would be a COL raise for us, and if a lot of really unneeded government programs were scuttled, there would be enough money for us to live simply and pass on our wisdom to the next generation.

        I do suspect the pressure on the elderly is to break the continuity of families and prevent the wisdom of the old being passed on to the young!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        Lewis Munn–I hear you loud and clear. My husband is retired, I am still working by choice, however, we had to pay another round of taxes this year. We have had to pay in for a number of years. I keep having more taken out of my paycheck to compensate. We had to pay in another $2900.00 this year. But at least it was about $500 less than last year. Maybe things are looking up. lol
        Sometimes a person cannot save enough money for old age. Sometimes it is like a black cloud over their heads and they never get ahead. I know of several people that were good decent people, and I never saw so much bad luck in my life. They couldn’t get ahead–and believe me, it was not of their doing. It was just the luck of the draw or something.

      • Allen in reality

        The SS program was well intentioned and it would have very well funded had it not been for loans borrowed against the trust and then written off years after the money was appropriated for Congressional discretionary spending and accounting for said funds were corrupted and now that the baby boomers have come in to start collection, all those former taxpayer’s payroll deductions have been mysteriously misplaced so now there seems to be a crisis. It is now realized that the generation x kids have not gotten jobs yet due to miscellaneous off-shore hiring, manufacturing shift-off, and the entire economy seems to be based primarily on a service sector of which accommodates unskilled labor and job preferences given to foreign immigration booms! (can’t discount increased laziness and drug based lack of motivation.) Soooo…. What of those who have already retired and have invested entirely on relying on their government based pensions? OOOOOPS! Back to work old man!

      • Lewis Munn

        No jobs left; we are considered too skilled to work!

    • http://www.keysinsurance.com Linda

      Bravo!

  • Jeryl

    I’m a strong supporter of Israel, but I’m also a strong supporter of Sen. Rand Paul. Twisting the truth is what Democrats (and many Republicans) do. Lying is dismissed as “just politics.” We DO need to stop all foreign aid. In addition, we need to get our troops out of Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq and bring them home. We would save billion upon billions just by doing so and by ceasing foreign aid. If we ceased foreign aid to all, including Israel, it would still be a net gain for Israel. I love Israel and stopping foreign aid to all is not anti-semitic. We should still support Israel militarily and be ready to stand by them.

  • H. Kirk Rainer

    Hard for me to decide if this action (by Democratic senators) is a party tactic or other…. Never the less, the U.S. remains vigilant in supporting foriegn interests–though financially in no position to ligimately do so (as is Rand’s point).

    Specific to Israel, some possess a deeper cause or basis; for example, the Zionist movement that seemes to unconditionally hold to preserving and protecting this geographic place–citing a Biblical, ordained cause. In this vein is the resolute position that seemingly has no tactic this side of Heaven–but holds to the belief that the U.S. is almost, if not completely, essential to Providence.

    • Mike in MI

      Mr. Rainer -
      I seems rather un-Providential to me that the hand which provides
      “good” to me also provides “good” to my enemies so they can be bad to me.
      Thus does our despicable foreign policy sustain and build evil activities in the world while sustaining, through indirect transfers of our money (taxpayers’ money), corporate welfare payments to the well connected friends of our Congressmen and Senators. Thus, makers and purveyors of the weapons of war and mayhem keep the money rolling in to their coffers so our friendly enemies can more expeditiously maim and kill our own soldier/sons and soldier/daughters.
      How deliciously evil that is: certain Representatives and Senators can vote to give away our money to foreign nations as “aid” which they know will come back here and be spent in favored manufacturing facilities (for warfare). BUT, AT THE SAME TIME THEIR NAMES CAN’T BE DIRECLY CONNECTED TO BELLICOSE ACTIVIY – especially if they want to appear to be “sweet, gentle doves” who rail against the hateful, warmongering, “hawkish”, Repblican/conservative, flag-waving patriot, Neanderthal types accross the aisle.

      • Allen in reality

        Thanks for that Mike in MI! So true!

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    those six senators are not being with reality.

  • http://google.com mathilda

    I agree that we need to cut off those other countries, they are rich and we are getting poorer and poorer. What happened to taking care of us first.

  • JimH

    Opposing senators ditorting the truth about another is news? Just another day.

  • jvr

    With the fuller background as explained I agree that Rand Paul has been unfairly attacked as being anti-Semitic. But I think the idea of stopping all foreign aid is naive and simplistic. I’m all for carefully targeted and wisely monitored foreign aid. The U.S. has important strategic interests in several parts of the world and foreign aid is one “weapon” we have to bolster alignments. The ultimate philosophy behind stopping all foreign aid is isolationism and the world is too interconnected and complex for isolationism. Foreign aid is a tiny percentage of the U.S. budget and the benefits of maintaining it far outweigh the cost even in times of economic difficulty.

    • Kevin Beck

      The evils of foreign aid probably outweigh the benefits to this nation. We are transferring money from poor people in rich nations (like ours), to rich people in poor nations who use this money to keep the rest of their nation poor. It’s like our nation’s continuing experiment with welfare, except on an international scale. We use it as a bribe to try to buy friendship with other nations, but we get killed with it in the end. Just remember in Egypt, when the rebels were holding up weapons made in the USA: Was it our intent for them to use these same weapons against one of our allies?

      • Kinetic1

        Kevin,
        The “evils of foreign aid” as you call them are providing information about women’s rights to villiges where men treat women like property and spread diseases without concern. They teaching parents how to care for their sick children with modern knowledge instead of traditional superstition. That aid brings satellite radios to remote areas and helps to promote and finance radio stations and programs that work to balance out the misinformation promoted by corrupt governments. You may have never heard about these programs, but I can tell you all about them, first hand.

        Do foreign governments misuse our funds and redirect the goods we send? Of course they do. The problem is these are the stories that they favor on the news. No one wants to hear about the success stories, that’s not “news”. No, we just want to hear about what’s wrong, where the corruption is, who’s stealing and who’s lying. Cutting off all aid would be a crime against humanity. We just need to better control where our money goes and cut out the waste.

      • JC

        Kinetic1 says:
        April 1, 2011 at 11:21 am
        Kevin,
        The “evils of foreign aid” as you call them are providing information about women’s rights to villiges where men treat women like property and spread diseases without concern. They teaching parents how to care for their sick children with modern knowledge instead of traditional superstition.
        ——————————————————————–

        And basically turning them into welfare recipients who will never actually take on the job of looking after themselves in the manner we “deem” fit for them. It’s proven time and again…fill the polace up with education, facilities and money…leave and come back in a year and it looks all the worse for the “garbage” we left behind.

        No one learns anything from dependency except how to be dependent.

      • Duffy

        Amen!!!!! Don’t we have enough dependency in our own Country?

      • Kinetic1

        JC,
        So you would say give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and he’ll expect you to keep suppling him with tackle?

      • JC

        Kinetic1 says:
        April 1, 2011 at 5:46 pm
        JC,
        So you would say give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and he’ll expect you to keep suppling him with tackle?
        ————————————————————-

        Sort of but not really.
        More what I’m saying is, when we try to introduce 21st century ideas to 7th century people we baffle them. The ideas, the human rights, the technology, the life style we’ve come to enjoy were developed by a “developing people”…us! And when you try and infuse these ideas, values or morals to a people who have been living the same day to day, hand to mouth existence for literally centuries, you absolutely baffle them. I don’t say they are stupid or unintelligent, what I’m saying is our ways are often strange to them, and while they are civilized enough to tolerate our incursion with a smile and some level of curiosity, the minute we leave we might as well have never been there. It seems to take a very short time for them to look at the things they were taught and the facilities / equipment they were given and say “F**K IT That’s way too much work” and it all goes to hell. Things like using a bathtub to water cattle or goats…that what it looks like it’s made for to them. I’ve seen it, and it’s a waste of time and money. Which by the way is not a criticism of the people who are trying to help them. Their hearts are in the right place…but for the most part, they are wasting their time.

        People will reach whatever standard of living they are meant to reach according to nature and necessity…not foreign aid.

    • DaveH

      JVR,
      Eliminating foreign aid has nothing to do with Isolationism. No more than you not supporting your neighbors would make you an unsociable person.
      If you want to get together with like-minded people to donate your own money, more power to you. But it is immoral to forcibly take money from unwilling donors to donate to the charities that a small group of leaders determine to be worthy.
      Besides, you can not buy peoples’ (or countries’) loyalty. Never have, never will.

      • Allen in reality

        Well written and well thought out DaveH!!

      • Carlucci

        There are all sorts of privately funded charities all over the world who do the very things foreign aid is allegedly supposed to be doing. World Vision is one of these private charities, and they do amazing work.

        We are not the world’s ATM machine. Governments that constantly pick up the tab (and the US is the worst) ultimately do not command respect from the rest of the world. All foreign aid must end, just like welfare must end here in America. Private charities and religious organizations have proven for years that they can take care of people at home and abroad that really need help.

      • Lewis Munn

        Until the government gets in the way and limits and axe’s them.

    • independant thinker

      ” I’m all for carefully targeted and wisely monitored foreign aid.”

      I agree except for one thing. That being we would be lucky if the aid remained “carefully targeted and wisely monitered” for one term of congress. Beyond that it would quickly revert to what we have now.

  • charles

    Halt all foreign aid.

    • Mick

      charles says:
      April 1, 2011 at 7:22 am
      Halt all foreign aid.

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      it should have been done long ago..
      We help too many while depriving our own and continue to be spat on and critized.
      can anyone say Door mat ?

  • James Maxwell

    It does not shock me that they attack any Republican, the demoncrats
    are in full attack mode and will used any and all trick of deception
    to keep the American public from seeing what they have done. They
    are now complaining about having to read or follow the Constution of
    the United States of America. It interfers with thier idea of business as usual. The corruption that has been exposed and not
    reported by the mainstream decption services is amazing. If it were
    not for the internet and Bloggers we would never hear of their lies,
    corruption, kickback and other underhanded dealings. Nor would we
    ever hear the actual voice and video recording of the truth as they
    see it exposed to the light of day. Like cockroches they hide in the
    damp dark cornors of society spewing hatred and union Socialsist trash.

    • meteorlady

      You are so right. The times are changing and we can read for ourselves what’s happening in the world today. If we don’t believe one story we can continue reading until we find the truth, eventually…..

      The mainstream media has turned into the a government propaganda machine like we used to believe Russians were subject to. Brainwashing – say something enough and people believe it.

      We need REAL journalists back, not the entertainers we have today.

      • DaveH

        We’ve been propagandized since I was a kid, meteorlady. And I’m sure even before that. Leaders like their power and perks, and they will do anything to keep them and grow them.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Remember Croncite etal and how they helped loose the war in Nam?

      • Kinetic1

        meteorlady,
        Think about what you have said. “If we don’t believe one story we can continue reading until we find the truth..” And there you have the basis for media like FOX News and Newsmax, report what the people want to hear. Take the latest report on Fox executive Bill Sammon. In his own words he admits to pandering to the far right.

        “I have to admit that I went on TV on Fox News and publicly engaged in what I guess was some rather mischievous speculation about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism, a premise that privately I found rather far-fetched.”

        He didn’t even believe what he was saying, but he knew it would sell to Fox viewers. So next time you hear or read a story that you don’t believe, ask yourself why. And when you finally do find a version that sits well with you, are you sure it’s the truth, or is the writer just giving you what you want to hear?

      • DaveH

        Obama doesn’t believe in Socialism? Try that on the Liberal boards, Kinetic. Few on here will believe you.

      • JC

        I don’t know DaveH…maybe Obama only sees socialism as a stepping stone to straight up dictatorship…maybe that’s what he believes in? ;)

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Sounds like Mr. Sammon is attempting to polish his resume in preparation for a move to MSNBC to work with the girlie-mon with the tinkle going down his leg.

      • DaveH

        Let’s see. Obama took over GM. He and his team considered taking over Bank of America, and Citi. He pushed through a nearly complete takeover of the healthcare industry with the Health Care Bill.
        And now he’s got our military fighting in an Unconstitutional War in Libya.
        Action speaks louder than any words. Only the most blindered Liberal could not see that Obama is a Socialist.

      • JC

        Check out the cartoon video on the sidebar Dave.
        Explains your thought perfectly.

      • Kinetic1

        Dave and OH,
        You’ve missed the point completely. We can debate whether or not the President is a socialist all day long, but that won’t change the fact that an executive at FOX admitted that he went on air and reported what he believed to be a far fetched assertion just to pander to the FOX audience. In relation to meteorlady’s comment about “reading until we find the truth..” it says a lot about the amount of trust that we can put in our media and our own desire to have our opinions validated.

      • DaveH

        Sure, Kinetic, so by your own advice we should ignore what you have to say since I have caught you in some flat out lies.

      • Kinetic1

        Dave,
        Do you have proof or are you just posturing?

      • DaveH

        Okay here’s one:
        February 8, 2011. Kinetic said “Given that the majority of Americans do not want a ban on abortion”.
        Now here it was not really stated whether you meant in relation to the healthcare bill or in general.
        But if the former, according to Rasmussen “Fifty-three percent (53%) of voters favor a ban on abortion coverage in any health insurance plan that receives federal subsidies.”, and “40% are opposed to such a ban in the proposed health care legislation now before Congress.”
        If the later, the ratio is “50% of Likely U.S. Voters consider themselves pro-choice”. Still not a Majority as stated by Kinetic.

      • DaveH

        You also made a similar claim about the Health Care Bill (that the majority of Americans wanted it), which was so far from the truth that you couldn’t possibly have just been mistaken.

        The thing is, Kinetic, that I don’t keep a notebook of your lies, but I guess I will start, so I can prove it more robustly in the future.

      • DaveH

        Also, assuming the story about Bill Sammon is true, I would say that he is still a step above most of the liars I have known who will never admit to the lie, no matter how redhanded you catch them.

      • DaveH

        Even on this page, Kinetic, you have made at least one misleading statement — “Only Israel is allowed to take the money we give them and use it to purchase weapons from their own manufacturers, essentially doubling their aid money”. Doubling their aid? Because they buy some of their equipment from their own manufacturer’s? I don’t think so. It would be lessening their aid if they were forced to spend that money on American Products. And as it stands, Israel spends about 75% of that money on American weapons. So, it is quite a stretch of reality to call it “essentially doubling their aid”.

        You see, the thing I find dangerous about you, Kinetic, is that you are indeed well-spoken. So people casually listening to your comments probably often have a tendency to consider your exaggerations and conjecture as fact unless they know better.

      • DaveH

        While researching the foreign aid issue, I ran across this interesting point of view:
        http://samsonblinded.org/blog/oddly-we-dont-want-your-money.htm

      • Kinetic1

        Dave,
        First, let’s set the ground rules. To lie is to “pretend with intent to deceive”. If I or anyone else on this board have researched a “fact” and believe it to be the truth, then by definition it is not a lie. If, on the other hand I/we are playing fast and loose with the “facts” or take something out of context with intent to distort, that is a lie. I have never intentionally lied on this site.

        Now, onto your list.
        1) Abortion. As you noted I did not state the parameters, but the fact is I was speaking in general and not in relation to government funding. The most recent poll I could find states, “A March Pew Research Center poll shows that 54 percent of Americans surveyed support the right to a legal abortion in all or most cases.” but how clever of you to specify “likely voters” to make your point.

        2) What was that I said about context? My statement was that, in the beginning of the debate polls showed a majority of Americans supporting the health care bill. The point being that dragging it out for over a year while trying to appease the Republicans allowed the same time to turn public opinion. I never said that the majority supported the final bill.

        3) “It would be lessening their aid if they were forced to spend that money on American Products.” Did you just gloss over the point that other nation are required to use the money to buy from American companies? So in context, compared to other nations who receive such military aid, Israel gets both the benefit of new weapons and a boost to their own economy when they buy from themselves. over 26% of the military aid is allowed to be used for such purposes, and while it may not work out to exactly double, that ability clearly increases the value of every dollar they spend on their own weapons as opposed to ours.

        Let’s look into some other facts about aid to Israel. “Using reports compiled by Clyde Mark of the Congressional Research Service and other sources, freelance writer Frank Collins tallied for the Washington Report all of the extra items for Israel buried in the budgets of the Pentagon and other federal agencies in fiscal year 1993.Washington Report news editor Shawn Twing did the same thing for fiscal years 1996 and 1997.”

        “They uncovered $1.271 billion in extras in FY 1993, $355.3 million in FY 1996 and $525.8 million in FY 1997. These represent an average increase of 12.2 percent over the officially recorded foreign aid totals for the same fiscal years, and they probably are not complete. It’s reasonable to assume, therefore, that a similar 12.2 percent hidden increase has prevailed over all of the years Israel has received aid.” Add to this the fact that Israel receives their aid in one lump sum as opposed to quarterly and you’ll see that Israel can invest those funds and collect interest on the unused portion. Does it ad up to 1/4 of all foreign aid? Based on several articles and a some quick cyphering, it comes darn close.

        So, was I lying in each of these cases as you said I was? Well, if we accept your lack of context, your slanting of the situation and some occasional pretzel logic, then I suppose I was. In the real world however, I’d have to question your means and motive.

    • Mick

      James Maxwell says:
      April 1, 2011 at 7:22 am
      It does not shock me that they attack any Republican, the demoncrats
      are in full attack mode and will used any and all trick of deception
      to keep the American public from seeing what they have done. They
      are now complaining about having to read or follow the Constution of
      the United States of America. It interfers with thier idea of business as usual. The corruption that has been exposed and not
      reported by the mainstream decption services is amazing. If it were
      not for the internet and Bloggers we would never hear of their lies,

      ………>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      James Maxwell…
      The democrats have been using the same degenerate tactics for decades,destroying moral values and encouraging misbehavior on all levels what make people think they will stop now that they have to fight even harder to stay alive.
      I , for one am glad to see the citizens waking up a bit but we have to continue posting and mailing articles after articles to our friends and family capable of understanding how detrimental the democrats are to our country. America has been injured severely by the left and some righties as well, the disease has been growing it’s time to heal this Nation….

    • nickwolf

      Unions built the middle class in America. That created the most
      powerful economic engine on the planet. Its why the world envys us! We fought hard and many died for workers rights, womens rights and child labor laws! My mom was a “Rosey the riveter” during WWII, and that Senator does not like the “labor mural”…in the labor office…of Rosie the riveter??? Who cares what he likes!
      Its not Socialism….it’s “Americanism” , a fair shake for the average Joe! Thats what the boys died for in WWII and they never would have put up with this inane twisting of our core values.
      Not Might and Wealth makes right! What Country do you live in? This is not 17th Century England! It’s why we fought them!
      And you will see how American Patriots put these ponyboys for the rich out of office this November and next year. They will be gone! To bad, I believed you really wanted to try to reign in corruption….but your party is making it worse!

      • Dale on the left coast

        Nick . . . even FDR said PS Unions should not exist.
        The dimmicraps have many “Rich” folks . . . didn’t 80% of Wall street donations go to the Bamster? Wasn’t he supported by the richest man in the world. Doesn’t this same guy support all the Uber-left groups supporting his looney “Open Society”? If I supported all these far-left kooks . . . I would not advertise it . . .

      • Thamera

        Nick there was a time when unions (in the private sector) were warranted and necessary and I would have been the first to advocate for better working conditions which in large part were deplorable, but what you seem to miss is that the pendulum has SWUNG in the other direction and those same unions are what is crippling America today and as for public unions, where are they sanctioned? Corruption can be found at every level and you are truly naive if you think unions are not some of the most corrupt influences out there, including our own government. It is rank!!!

      • independant thinker

        I went to the socialist republic of kalifornia to visit relatives. While there a cousin who worked security at the docks took us there to show us around. While we were at the docks he explained to us how the unions forced the companies to allow theft of almost anything that they handled. His job was not ot stop theft but limit it to about 1% of what came accross the docks.

      • Duffy

        Right On Thamera. Look what’s happening in UnionGrove,WI. Small businesses are being threatened by big union bosses. The legality of this tactic is being investigated and rightfully so. Unions had their
        sense of being at one time. However, with all of the regulatory agencies into play, it is my opinion they are not necessary. Incidentally, the still haven’t found Hoffa.

      • Lewis Munn

        I agree. Unions, well run, have a place to offset Big management. But Big Labor becomes almost immediately as corrupt as Big Management, with leaders who are multi-millionaires, and imposing bad rules on the laboring force to get more money to the Union leaders and their bought politicians. Look at how much Obama got from the unions, and how he paid them back with monopoly powers greater than the robber barons of Industy years ago! A union robber baron is just as bad as a employer robber baron.

        Possibly worse, as he can hold up whole blocks of our economy, like destroying our childrens’ education until he gets his own way! Gonna be hard to make up for the losses now. I taught a little, and the union took our good courses and demanded we gut them to keep kids in school longer, to get more tuition money, which the unions got a handsome part!

        Many years ago now, but obviously, the Unions are even less interested in education and more in getting rich!

      • JC

        Hoffa.

        Lewis Munn says:
        April 1, 2011 at 3:44 pm

        …..Many years ago now, but obviously, the Unions are even less interested in education and more in getting rich!
        ________________________________________________________________-

        And there the you have the underlying truth of Unionism as we now know it. They’re just as guilty of corruption as the crony capitalists
        of the so called right.

        Always follow the money if you want the truth of any situation.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        What country does he live in? The last time I looked we do not have elections THIS November.

        The elections are about 25 months away.

      • Carlucci

        According to his rants, nick appears to have gone off the deep end…
        Somebody throw him a life jacket.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Mrs. C:

        He doesn’t need a life jacket. Hot air floats.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        How did we get from foreign aid / Israel to the communist manefesto spewing union bullsh*t?

        I am fed up with these union goons continually stealin my wallet.

        I wonder if Ruger has released that union gun yet? Remember? It’s the Union Special. It doesn’t work and can’t be fired.

      • CurtisS

        Just like most cars built in the US in the 1970s and 80s….

      • JeffH

        OH, “How did we get from foreign aid / Israel to the communist manefesto spewing union bullsh*t?”

        Just a typical Alinsky tactic, nothing more, and oh so obvious.

      • JeffH

        OH, I agree with you, my comment was pointed at nickw…

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Hey JeffH:

        Thank you for the info on the French recycling “nucler” waste. I didn’t get it read until yesterday and it was FACSINATING.

        Somehow that information / knowledge needs to be drummed into the American consciousness.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Curtis:

        And the 50s and 60s. When I was a kid it was somewhat of a joke that you always wanted to buy a new car that was built on Wednesday. The union assembly workers would spend Monday and Tuesday sobering up / recovering from the week end and Thrusday and Friday making plans for the week end.

      • JeffH

        Old Henry, you’re welcome. You may find this nuclear waste recycling article interesting also.

        SCIENTIFIC AND POLITICAL ISSUES ON THE RECYCLING OF NUCLEAR WASTE
        http://nuclearwasterecycling.com/

      • Richard Pawley

        Cute joke! You mentioned the unions again and I was a salesman in the 1970′s for several years and I went into the homes of all kinds of people. I recall once a story someone told me while I was in their home of touring the old Ford plant in Mahwah, NJ and he told me that he observed someone watching a game on a small TV while he was supposed to be assembling parts for a car. He told me that he saw three parts go by that didn’t have the part the worker was supposed to install and he felt guilty about not telling someone. In another home I was told that dealers in the tri-state area of NY, NJ and Connecticut often preferred to pay the transportation to get their cars from Detroit rather than from nearby Mahwah because of all the trouble they had with those cars. They finally closed the plant. Think I mentioned that in one of my books.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Richard Pawley:

        I used to subscribe to a magazine dedicated to old Fords and several years ago they ran an article about someone restoring a 57 Fairlane that was all original, in solid shape. When they tood the driver’s door abart they found an empty whiskey bottle in the bottom of the door (no cap on the bottle).

        I also read stories in that magazine about how line workers would put marbles / ball bearings into quarter panels and other hard to reach areas to create rattles that would anoy owners and be VERY difficult for service depts to locate.

        Those union doops really shot themselves as the Japs cleaned their clocks and we had to then listen to them whine.

        Remember the Edsel? Parts literally fell off in the showrooms.

      • Allen in reality

        Most people agree that private unions are OK and we have no beef with them. (Even as exclusive they are about joining)

        It is the public unions that I have issue with. They are digging into
        my pocket by levying my tax dollars to pay the pensions of those that I
        never benefited from. Unions and the public sector do not belong as long as my taxes are funding them.

      • sherri ww

        @Allen in reality. Good Lord. Of COURSE you,and everyone else! ,who works,has benefited from all unions.Without them,private or public,no one in this country would even have decent working conditions,or a min.wage of any sort.And,as I told another person yea sterday,those union workers pay Their share and pay into a pension same as we pay into soc.sec.,and they get that for THEIR retirement,as we expect to get. Our soc.sec.checks we have paid for all these years.The other really big part of this is that you expect a call tore&Police to be answered NOW,AND YOUR

      • Thamera

        Anyone care to respond? I don’t think I have the energy to deal with Sherri ww’s muddled nonsense and lack of reality today.

      • Carlucci

        The only thing I can say is… does Sherri speakie engie?

      • sherri ww

        Allen.My little machine decided to print before I was done,as it often has a mind of its own!Anyway,you get it-public workers are our Fire,Police,garbage pickup,local water an street maint.our folks at all public offices,from local to the DMV,OR WHEREVER we need to go for help.They run our library and teach our children,and they are our friends an neighbors as well.We do need some unions to keep things going and to keep things in check for all of us.

      • JC

        And most of it, save for the Police and FD, should be privatized.
        Better service, better value.

      • Richard Pawley

        The only difference that I have seen growing up in a right-to-work state is that even poor people could afford houses there. The property taxes on houses in NY where I live now are as much as 14 times what they are in some right-to-work states where union bosses don’t dictate to local governments. In some right-to-work states a person can buy a similar house just for what a citizen in NY pays for the taxes on their house. It’s why NY has lost a million citizens in the past decade, and Michigan, and Illinois, and Ohio, and Wisconsin have lost citizens too, while Texas has grown by over 4,200,000 in the same time. Even Mr. Democrat, Franklin Roosevelt felt that unions didn’t belong in government but at long at they can zap it to the middle class and the middle class can do nothing about it but move out of such states they often do. The riots will begin when the unions realize they have squeezed the golden goose dry and that all those fancy pensions at far higher amounts than those who pay them can ever have, are no more. It’s why a number of states are almost bankrupt and the national government is just creating money out of the air because they are broke too. States can’t do that but with no money they can’t balance their budgets either. I think it was Illinois that upped their state income tax by over 65 percent but that is just the beginning and is no where near enough. If congress doesn’t stop squandering what borrowed money they can and reduce the spending dramatically (not a trivial 61 Billion out of 3,800 Billion) the resulting inflation is going to require more than the 20,000 troops the army is training to quell the union riots that are coming. Prepare as you can. You might only have a year or two. May God help us, no one else is going to do so.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        nickwolf in sheep’s clothing, Spoken like a true Socialist/Communist, now move to Cuba,Venezuela or any Communist country of your choice. Parasite, do you really know the “Dynamics of the American
        Economy” ? [offensive phrase removed]

      • Cawmun Cents

        You need a refresher course in your history sir!The Puritans left England because they couldnt get a fair shake from the then government of the Crown.They came to America first and landed on Plymouth Rock to get relief from government restrictions on religion.It was not a bunch of hackneyed athiests who were tired of religious persecution in England,running from the hard hand of the Papacy.Nope!These were hardcore religious zealots who first showed up on the Massachusetts shore.They believed in God and did all throughout the several centuries up until the godless progressive revisionists got hold of the institutions of this nation.Only then did the history begin to change to reflect lies that were told about the founding of this nation.If they were socialists and godless as many pther places were then and are now,the Declaration of Independence,and the Constitution would have never been penned.It is you Mr. nickwolf who fail to observe the true ideas behind both Christiianity and America.God help you and your marxist revisinary professors for trying to leave Him out of what is clearly His handi-work!

      • Kinetic1

        CC,
        I know that we all celebrate the sacrifices of the Pilgrims every Thanks Giving day, but the facts show that they were very small in number and were not as successful as other Puritans who did not believe in separating from the Church of England. It’s wonderful to believe in American folk lore, but one can’t ignore that the success of our nation is due in no short measure to the thousands of people who came here not for religious freedom, but for the financial opportunities that come with a new land.

      • DaveH

        What facts show that “they were very small in number and were not as successful as other Puritans who did not believe in separating from the Church of England”?
        Are these just fabricated facts or can you back them up?

      • Richard Pawley

        In a similar vein the first thing that the settlers did who landed in Virginia 13 years before the Puritans was erect a larger than life cross and claim this new land for Jesus Christ. I was shocked when the official government line at the 400th Anniversary of that 1607 landing was that the Jamestown settlers came here seeking economic freedom. It’s as if our government controlled by progressives and Marxists will do anything to reduce the spiritual influence that helped build this great nation. When the Marxists and socialists are through with it you will not recognize it and we will not be so great. Remember the election is in 19 months, likely our last chance to change things and purge the congress of all those who only care for themselves and don’t give a hoot for the nation.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Richard Pawley:

        I forgot to ask, but what sort of books do you write?

        Are they on audio CDs?

      • Cawmun Cents

        It is well known Historically that the Crown was not really kind to the Puritans.King James(the one who penned his own Bible,still in use today)gave more kind gesture to the Catholic church than he did to the Puritans.This despite the fact that the Catholics tried several times to assassinate him.When the persecution continued,the Puritan leaders decided to come to the New World to form their own colony.There may have been a few financially minded tag-alongs,but most of the settlers were Puritans.Any reputable historian would tell you this.You can try to discount Gods role in this nations forming,but you will eventually be proven wrong by actual historical happenstance.It was freedom of religion that caused these people to come here to get away from governmental persecution.Its right there in the first Amendment to the Constitution.Only a marxist would refute the hard evidence.

  • oldgringo

    I’m from Nebraska and Senator Ben Nelson is out of touch with reality…..He needs to go…..We have enough liars in our government and we can do without another like him…..All distorters of the truth need to be voted out of office…..Remember the names of those above and kick em out for good!

    • Kevin Beck

      It was BILL Nelson from Florida, not BEN Nelson from Nebraska, that signed the letter.

    • DaveH

      As Kevin pointed out, it was Bill Nelson. But Ben Nelson does need to go also. Remember that his healthcare vote was purchased with favors from the Democratic majority Congress?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Actually Dave H that would be the Democrat majority in Congress.

        Democratic is the lie perpetrated by those communists and their lackies in the MSM.

      • DaveH

        And most of the Republicans as well.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        It certainly seems to be shaping up that way in the last 3 months. You chose leaders that are basically Eunicks and….

      • DaveH

        I chose?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        There goes that keeybord again.

        It should have choose, or chuse? HA!

  • kilrntex

    I say cut the enemies of America off and send Israel more arms instead of money. They are our only allies in this world and as a Christian we must stand by them to the very end.

    • Patriot66

      Our funding of Isreal IS the reason terrorist target America. If we did not support their only enemy, there would be NO reason for them to be concerned with us. Imagine, the “war on terror” over and peace forever. No more validation of Federal income taxes, overseas forces, gifts to other countries or Freedom slaves in America who work every day and minute of their life to support this madness. Way to go Rand! Rand Paul for President!

      • Carlucci

        You hit the nail on the head. And Rand Paul is right – all foreign aid must stop. We can’t afford it.

      • Terry

        Amen!!

      • Della

        Amen! Amen!

      • Bonnie R.

        AMEN, AMEN, AMEN! ! !

      • JNCSMOM

        AMEN!!!! Not only should we stop sending foreign aid – we need to get out of the united nations.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

      • steve

        AND Hallelujah, my brothers.

        Let’s add ending the FED, IRS, DOE and FDA while we’re making the list!!! :) :)

      • Angel

        I’m with you on that one Steve!!!

      • Harold Olsen

        “If we did not support their only enemy, there would be NO reason for them to be concerned with us.”

        Are you that naive? If we stopped all aid to Israel, and I hope we NEVER do, the Arab terrorists would find some other reason to attack us. That is what they live for. Killing innocent people is all they care about.

      • steve

        So, you’re thinking continued foreign aid to anti-American countries decreases their attacks on us?

        I spose you were the type that gave the school bully your lunch money every day so he wouldn’t kick your arse?

        lol

        Appeasement NEVER works.

      • Allen in reality

        Nor do personal attacks. Foreign aide is outdated and Israel is by far
        better off than the US. (read the article)

      • karolyn

        There are enough wealthy Jews in this country that could pick up the slack if the US stopped aid to Israel.

      • Lewis Munn

        Yes, appeasement never works.

        I learned that early in grade school, so when the bully stole my bike, he got a shock from the little milquetoast kid I think he will remember all his life. Saved me problems later with other would-be bullies, to

        Remember Teddy Roosevelt? “Speak softly, but carry a BIG stick!”.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Karolyn:

        Please define wealthy.

      • JeffH

        Karolyn says: “There are enough wealthy Jews in this country that could pick up the slack if the US stopped aid to Israel.”

        I suppose you have something to support your opinion, like a link and statistics?

      • Ruby

        Agreed. They already have another reason to hate “us”…that is that Shariah law is not the law of the land here, and most Americans are not practicing Muslims. I submit that ultimately that IS why they hate us. Our aid to Israel adds fuel to that fire.

      • Christin

        Yes, I agree Ruby, but I think it goes deeper than that. It is not just because America has supported Israel up until this unConstitutional presidency. They HATE us because we are a “Christian nation”… that means we are [Jesus] Christ followers. Jesus tells us in the Bible that “they will hate you for His name’s sake.”

      • Michael J.

        Harold Olsen,
        With due respect, yes it is naive to think that Mulim countries will no longer hate us if we stop sending aid to Israel. Muslim coutries refer to Israel as “The little Satan”, and America is “The big Satan” to them.

        The reality of foreign aid is that it is dispersed in exchange for clandestine foreign policy backing in matters pertinent to our countries economic and national security well being. Unfortunately it has evolved into political blackmail forged against us by the benefactors of said aid and is like the proverbial Genie once left out of the bottle being impossible to be put back in. Though I agree with Rand Paul in that foreign aid including aid to Israel is vile and repugnant, it’s a bit naive to think that it is something we will be able to change.

      • http://yahoo richard

        and no more jews is that what makes you so happy

      • JC

        Now there’s a giant leap. I don’t think anyone said anything about “no more Jews”. Maybe have a nice cup of chamomile and just breath…

        The Jews are big kids, worldly wise and industrious.
        Shouldn’t they be able to take care of themselves by now?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        The Israelles are some of the toughest folks on the planet and they may have to pull our “chestnuts” out of the fire down the road.

        Especiall if the American electorate does not get their collective head out of their a$$ in 2012. If the half-breed Kenyan anti-America muslim goes back to 1600 we will indeed be finished.

      • JC

        Sure Henry, I agree. The Israelis are tough people.
        But they will never be enough to pull our “chestnuts” out of any fire anywhere anytime.

        While I respect your support of them it is not up to you or Congress or anyone else to decide that my hard earned money should be sent out of the country to support people I have no affiliation with.
        I do however welcome you to your right to choose to send them every dime you have.

        But if we’re going to support other nations based on opinions…
        Why not Tonga or Bhutan…what the hell, it’s only money right?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        JC:

        “While I respect your support of them it is not up to you or Congress or anyone else to decide that my hard earned money should be sent out of the country to support people I have no affiliation with”.

        Well JC if you have an affiliation with God Almighty as at least 80% of our country does, then you have an affiliation with God’s chosen people by default.

        Read the 5 Books of Moses – the first 5 Books of the Holy Bible Old Testament – and you will see what happens to peoples / countries that go against Israel. That is not paying blackmail money. It is only siding with God.

        In my post below in my comment to Chip I stated that upon reflection on the data put forth in the article I did agree that we should end ALL foreighn aid. However, we should also make it completely clear that we will side militarily with Israel whenever it becomes necessary.

      • JC

        Well JC if you have an affiliation with God Almighty as at least 80% of our country does, then you have an affiliation with God’s chosen people by default.

        —————————————————————–

        Sorry Henry, we part company on this issue. I do not believe for one minute that God has “chosen people”. if that is the case the rest of us are extranneous and have no purpose whatsoever. So why are we here at all…except for the Jews?

        I don’t buy it. Not now, not ever. But I respect your right to believe in your faith. Just stay out of my wallet, I have a family to care for.

      • Patriot66

        Sorry Richard, that is not what I meant. I love my wife very much and could not imagine life without her. I was pertaining to the ALL foreign aid, not just singling out Israel.

      • vicki

        Foreign aid paid for by taxpayer dollars is just wrong no matter which foreign government it is given to. For Israel, it puts them in the position of a person accepting stolen money from a thief. For what else can you call taking money at gunpoint (try not paying taxes) and giving it to people that the taxpayer might not want to have the money go to?

        Yes we can and should support Israel with PRIVATE donations.

      • JC

        That is an excellent observation Vicki.

      • patty

        History has shown that Isreal only fights back when attacked. One of the reasons that the US gives money to Isreal is so that Isreal will not competely turn to glass their aggressor. Isreal does not say that Muslims should not exist. Do Muslims say the same in kind?

      • patty

        OMG. Israel. :) Need sleep, or maybe an adult beverage.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Dear Patriot66:

        If you think ending aid to Israel would end terrorist’s hate of the U.S. you are either living in a third dimention world or completely dilusional.

        Muslims hate the U.S. for what we ARE, a free, prosperous, Christian nation – in spite of what the “jug-eared” (thanks i41) muslim-in-cheif believes. They will never stop their quest to overcome and rule the U.S.

        The only thing those rag-heads understand is a boot on their neck and a boot up their a$$.

      • Angel

        Actually sir, I beg to differ. The only reason that the Muslims hate America is because they think we are the great Satan. They also think that, under the Koran, it is their duty to conquer all nations and make them submit to Sharia law because that is what their god…allah wants and says to do. Also, after succeeding in this task, it opens up the door for their so called savior to come. The Mahdi is who he is called. What many don’t know if their Mahdi is our anti-Christ!

      • Angel

        I’m sorry, I should have said the “biggest ” reason that the Muslims hate America is….

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Angel:

        You basically said what I said, only in a different way. We are Christians. Rag-heads hate Christians and a dedicated to either converting or kiling them. True Christiaons will die rather than deny Christ.

        Muslims are basically barbaric animals. Watch what they do, not what they say. Just like the jug-eared Kenyan.

      • Vigilant

        Patriot66:

        “Our funding of Isreal IS the reason terrorist target America. If we did not support their only enemy, there would be NO reason for them to be concerned with us. Imagine, the “war on terror” over and peace forever.”

        I’m afraid I must disagree. This statement is too perilously close to the Rev. Wright’s assertion that 9/11 was “the chickens coming home to roost,” or the NYC mosque’s Imam saying America has no one but itself to blame for 9/11.

        With or without Israel, the war on terror will continue for as long as radical Islamists use the presence of America ANYWHERE in the Middle East as a pretext for terrorism. The imposition of Sharia Law on the US is unrelated to our support of Israel.

      • Lewis Munn

        Just one minor correction, the Muslims will give up on attacking us only when we are subjugated to them, as the Qur’an says. ONLY when we are subjugated like the rest of the world, and they will be alert to cut the heads off any dissenters.

        I think too many liberals have not read the Qur’an, nor really believe anyone could think that way. It is definitely unAmerican!

      • james karalis

        Bull !

      • Vigilant

        Another fact-filled analysis by the resident anti-Semite.

      • nickwolf

        Rand Paul voted “unanimous” on the “no fly zone” vote in the Senate 30 days ago!! Thats an uncontestable fact! Then he goes on T.V. and says the President should have Consulted? He did!
        Rand Paul has provably lied to the American people…about his stance on the War. He has lost all credibility! He should not be elected dogcatcher! Liars are liars, but this takes the cake, during an uprising of 20 yr olds in the entire Middle East who are asking for Democracy and Freedom, not Theocracy! We could be winning the entire War for hearts and minds of the new generation and were playing politics??? How pathetic not to know when were winning!

        There was a band of rebels once, that had no Naval Power…no Navy! They fought to free themselves from the most powerful army and navy in the world. The chances that they would succeed, were almost zero. The idealistic pro Thomas Paine revolution­aries, The French, saw the dilemma..m­any said it was “not worth it” it ” could not work out ” American untrained locals could never win against the profession­al highly trained British Empire.They needed cannon, rifles, uniforms, powder….everything! The French and later the Spanish, armed them!
        They did it anyway! They used their Naval Power and saved American ports etc. A 19 yr old British Naval Officer, wealthy Lafette!, was the first one in, with 30 ships…despite his wealthy heritage…because he believed in the writings and philosophy of John Paine as did Jefferson, Washington and the rest!!

        The rest is history…­.our history!

      • SunnieD

        Fighting for freedom is the right thing to do, for all people. HOWEVER, has it occurred to you to revisit the information from countries who have recently evicted their leaders? They are all now under the collective thumb of the Muslim Brotherhood. Think these people will have freedom there? Think again.

      • Allen in reality

        Once again! Another neocon/neolib trying to rewrite history by either
        deliberately spreading fabrications or simply not knowing any of the facts. Voted for the no fly zone?…never happened sir! The president
        did not invite a vote either. Look it up.

      • Thamera

        We still do not know who these rebels are…quite a leap I would say Nickwolf or naive at best to say they are fighting for democracy and freedom considering their history and the region in which they live.

      • Mike in MI

        Carlucci -
        Barry does. Didn’t you hear a couple days ago when asked if he knew who they were he said the freedom fighters were, “Mostly doctors and lawyers, professional people”. You know, The kind who always fight wars of liberation in scrub-greens, lab coats, three-piece suits and busines satire.
        ‘Course, at the same time in London, Hillarity was announcing that the diplomagic communisties arfe ignorant of the ID”s of these newbies on the international front…uh, scene.

      • JeffH

        Thamera, well said and I’m sure the thoughts of many.

      • Mike in MI

        OOPS!!! Sorry, THAMERA…..Not Carlucci,
        Dearly love you both but…got to get it right, mike.

      • Carlucci

        It appears that you are listening to too much lame stream media “news”, and that is where you are getting your “opinions”. Wake up…

      • Carlucci

        P.S. I was talking to nickwolf.

      • Cawmun Cents

        There was no congressional vote for a no fly zone.So How do you substantiate those remarks?The Presidnt acted without a congressional vote.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Carlucci:

        He can’t. It’s just more libelous liberalism.

        He seems to be new here. I think he is a plant to spread MoveOn lies.

      • texastwin827

        Nick, is your nose growing?

        What actually happened:

        With no objections, the Senate on March 1 backed a resolution strongly condemning “the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya” and urging the U.N. Security Council to take action, “including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory.”

        NO WHERE nor AT ANY TIME did our Congress (or Rand & Ron Paul) vote to send OUR military. There is a lot of difference in showing support and a vote to stipulate the support and actually voting to commit our men & women in the military.

      • independant thinker

        “Our funding of Isreal IS the reason terrorist target America.”

        I am not argueing for or against continuing foreign aid but your statement is flat out wrong. They target America simpoly because we are America and to spread their violent form is islam. This would continue no matter how much or how little aid we sent to Isreal.

      • Don

        This all started with Ben Laden who didn’t like American troops being in Saudi Arabia

      • JC

        I don’t know about that Don. Osama Bin Laden was known as the “other Bush boy” because he spent so much time with the Bush’s when he was growing up. The bush’s and Bin Laden’s have been in the munitions business together for decades and are very close both personally and professionally.

        I think Bin laden was just playing his part in a greater….show?

        Ramp up the fear, the hate, the wars and munitions dealers do very very well.

      • Richard Pawley

        “Imagine, the “war on terror” over and peace forever” you say. Yes, we can dream and it’s good to have dreams, but evil cannot be ignored. If we had ignored Hitler we would all be speaking German or English as a second language. If Kennedy had not stood up to Russia and the 161 nuclear weapons aimed at us from Cuba, we might not even be here today. Hitler’s favorite scapegoat was the Jewish people and the Muslims from Turkey to Iran have made his autobiography, MEIN KAMPF, a best seller in Arabic.

        Besides Americans don’t turn on their friends (at least we didn’t use to). That’s more of a Nazi trick. They had an agreement with the Soviet Union but then they attacked Russia. Sadly, even the Bible says that (most likely as a politically correct matter of expediency) ‘all the nations of the world will turn against Israel’ and the blood will be as high as a horse’s bridle or something close to that. The leader of Iran believes he has been chosen to kill a 100,000,000 people to usher in his Mahdi or chosen one (Christians call him the anti-Christ). That is why he want’s a nuclear weapon. Israel is just a stepping stone and since their entire population is only a third of Mexico City that wouldn’t even be 10% of the needed deaths. You may not take any of this seriously but what is important is THAT THEY DO. The goal of Islam is and always has been world domination. My 92 year old mother recently died but she was concerned about the inroads that ignorant Americans had allowed in letting Sharia Law make it so far in this country. The ACLU might stop the Christians and they might stop the Jews but they will not stop Sharia once it makes a big enough beachhead. In France alone there are some 700 places that even the police do not go. They didn’t pay attention to what was happening to them until it was/is virtually to late. There are decent Muslims in the world but at least 100,000,000 million of them have chosen to be enemies of mankind and in the words of one of their leaders, “You love Pepsi, and we love death!”

        Russia is certainly no friend of Israel and Russians don’t give them anything but heartache but many Russians have died at the hand of Muslim Terrorists. One who had killed many children in an elementary school said, “As much as you love life, we love death even more!” It is completely naive to believe that if we stiffed our friends, the only Democracy in that part of the world, that we would somehow benefit. If we have fallen that low then we deserve the chaos that is coming here later in this decade and that I have tried to warm people about for nearly 20 years.

        Be glad you live in this part of the world because although you will be affected by WWIII you have less of a chance of being disintegrated by a WMD, but if the west and the western ideals of freedom and the worth of the individual (yes they are Judeo-Christian ideals) don’t win this one, terrible as it will be, the world will not be a place you will want to live in. Since we can’t move to another planet in our lifetime we had better be concerned with real life here and now. Don’t get carried away with the idea of Nirvana or heaven on earth that the Marxists who think like the Muslims (that the individual is unimportant) and all that counts is the collective, have long tried to bring about on earth. Our planet will not last that long. We need to stop squandering all the borrowed money we have or we are not going to have anything very soon. It is irrelevant if anyone believes this or not. They will see it if congress doesn’t stop playing games. 61 billion out of 3,100 Billion and the Democrats and RINO Republicans are saying “that’s to much”. Remember that when you are paying $10 for a gallon of milk as I said in THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES and the Great Famine that Followed. Just 19 months till the election and we can get rid of more of those who do not care what happens to the United States.

      • Patriot66

        Hi Richard -
        Your points are well taken and I actually agree with you. Please don’t take my comments as an attack on Israel, as almost everyone has. I was at work when I made my short comment (blog?) on the topic and did not elaborate much. I agree that there are radicals out there that wish us harm, but have doubts on their resolve. I find it hard to believe such a fanatical group(s) could have such a hard time doing us harm. Not much has happened here since 9/11. I’m not looking forward to it, and I hope my comment does not spur such events (from the radicals or the ones making billions off the fear of it) but does not seem like such a hard thing to do, there are just too many ways, too many loopholes. I do believe there is a great reckoning on the horizon and believe we must deal with the Muslim problem in an aggressive manner. I do not have the solution for this, but will probably involve bombs and guns. A more practical solution would involve a more isolationist approach, where like minded peoples can gather and protect each other as our government opens the floodgates to the terrorist they are letting in by the millions. It’s as if they are welcoming the conflict and setting the stage right here on American soil. Again, I have no solution for this. How does a “free” nation pick and chose who can come in and who cannot (by religion, race, political ideals, etc…) without becoming a Nazi like regime.

        Myself, I try and keep it simple when trying to figure out reason and purpose for the things the handful of individuals who control our government does. I put myself in their shoes and say “What would I do if I wanted to enslave all mankind” I take this reasoning and apply it to the current events of the day.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Killrntex:

      We still must buy the military arms that we would give to Israel. It’s the same as sending borrowed money.

      I would suggest that we make it perfectly clear to Israel’s ememies that we will militarily back Israel whenever it may become necessary.

      If Israel wants bo buy arms from us that would be fine.

      And remember, Der Fuhrer has publically stated that we ARE NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NAITON.

      • nickwolf

        We have never been a “Christian Nation” according to Thomas Jefferson and all the Founding fathers! This lie has to stop. We are a secular nation that tolerates all religions. If we didn’t, various Christian factions would have had multiple wars, right from the start. Thats why the Constitution only mentions it when it’s separating it from our Constitution. Thats why Christianity has thrived in America. Every time Christians try to get in bed with Government, it ends up in a disaster for Christians. Ask Billy Graham who thought it a good idea to believe Nixon. He paid highly for that, as did the Christian right!
        President Obama is a Christian! What kind? Who cares! Thats exactly my point! …. it’s a “free” nation of religious people!
        Thats the model for the world….all else leads to Wars and pathetic stupidy….enough of this!

      • Dale on the left coast

        Nick . . . how do you feel about muzzies in bed with government . . . . that’s what we have NOW!!!

      • Allen in reality

        Once again ignorance is not very flattering and you have shown the maximum. Believing Nixon and belief in god is a mixture of apples and oranges. Obama was born and educated as a muslim. If he converted
        to Christianity that was a choice of apostasy that he committed and he has no right to choose what faith this country believes in. (still 80%
        christian) Small wonder that the Arab religious leaders haven’t called
        for Obama’s fatwa for being apostolic.

      • S.C.Murf

        Time for nickerswolf to make that popping sound!

        up the hill
        airborne

      • http://?? Joe H.

        S.C. Murf.
        Ok, you got a block and tackle?? It’s definately gonna take one!!!

      • Cawmun Cents

        The right of freedom of religion is not to protect the government from the churches,but to protect the churches from the government.If it were the other way around,then the government would be taxing the churches.The amendment reads,(paraphrasing)”Congress shall not establish”which means that it is a no,no for the government to interfere with the churches.The Constitution says nothing about the churches being involved in government. That is where,Mr.nickwolf,your education falls way short of reality.Please tell your leftist professors that the Americans know what the Constitution says and that he/she has made a greivous error in thinking that they do not.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        We have never been a “Christian Nation” according to Thomas Jefferson and all the Founding fathers! This lie has to stop. We are a secular nation that tolerates all religions. If we didn’t, various Christian factions would have had multiple wars, right from the start. Thats why the Constitution only mentions it when it’s separating it from our Constitution. Thats why Christianity has thrived in America. Every time Christians try to get in bed with Government, it ends up in a disaster for Christians. Ask Billy Graham who thought it a good idea to believe Nixon. He paid highly for that, as did the Christian right!
        President Obama is a Christian! What kind? Who cares! Thats exactly my point! …. it’s a “free” nation of religious people!
        Thats the model for the world….all else leads to Wars and pathetic stupidy….enough of this!

        This is a nation based and founded on Christioan principles and beliefs. Chriistians have been, and are, a majority in this country and that makes it a Christioan nation.

        Due to the persecution our Founders edured in Europe they made sure that our founding principles would tolerate all religions. That is a Christion ideology unlike many others such a Islam.

        Given your communist, ah liberal, (I repeat myself) leanings one would have to believe you are an atheist and are extremely agitated by anything Christian. Hence your silly rantings.

    • Vigilant

      kilrntex,

      “I say cut the enemies of America off and send Israel more arms instead of money. They are our only allies in this world and as a Christian we must stand by them to the very end.”

      I agree with you.

      Foreign aid is not categorically bad. Some is bad, some is well-intentioned but ineffective, some is good. Aid to the PLO terrorists is nothing short of bad, a form of extortion money that enriched Arafat and resulted in NOTHING good. In the case of Egypt (second only to Israel in terms of aid), our support of the miltary may have averted a true debacle in that country.

      The foreign aid we’ve devoted to AIDS prevention in Africa may have saved literally millions of lives.

      To put matters into perspective, our total foreign aid outlays are 2% of our Federal budget, and aid to Israel is only 3/10 of one percent of that budget. From Israel’s standpoint, our aid accounts for just shy of 5% of their total revenues.

      In the final analysis, the media and many of us are overly concerned about foreign aid and things such as pork barrel spending, both drops in the bucket. Our attention should be focused on the big ticket items such as military and domestic welfare spending.

      • independant thinker

        “In the final analysis, the media and many of us are overly concerned about foreign aid and things such as pork barrel spending, both drops in the bucket.”

        But drops add up to cups which add up to buckets full. Every cut in spending is important no matter if it is $50 or $50,000,000,000.

      • JC

        Israel is our only ally in this world?

        EXCUSE ME?

        In every declared and some undeclared wars we’ve been in, we have had: Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand and a host of smaller nations that stood right beside us, brought their own tropps and equipment on their own dollar and bled and died right there with us…

        Sheesh!

      • Carlucci

        Amen – ! Thank you for pointing that out, JC.

      • Richard Pawley

        I think VIGILANT was referring to our only allies in that part of the world. We are so wrapped up on the news which is all about the increasing chaos in the Middle East and what will likely become a world war that we forget all all the rest. An honest mistake by someone to involved with the news, but it is good to point it out. A wise man appreciates correction.

      • JC

        I kind of figure the same thing Richard, and I generally repect if not always agree with Vigilant. Still I thought it was an opportunity to remind ourselves we do have traditional friends that we don’t have to buy.
        Just my point of view…

    • Kinetic1

      Kilrntiex,
      Our weapons policy with Israel is already more favorable than any other nation to which we provide aid. Only Israel is allowed to take the money we give them and use it to purchase weapons from their own manufacturers, essentially doubling their aid money. Other governments are required to spend the funds with American manufacturers, making our funds work for us as well. And why do we have this lopsided policy? Because of the religious beliefs of the more extremist Christians in our nation and our government. Why, in a country that is supposed to be based on religious freedom should we base our foreign aid on Biblical scripture?

      • Vigilant

        “Why, in a country that is supposed to be based on religious freedom should we base our foreign aid on Biblical scripture?”

        This leading question is like asking “are you still beating your wife?”

        First of all, any assumption that our foreign aid is based on Bibilical scripture is a canard of the worst sort. What scripture are you talking about when we support a host of Muslim countries?

        Israel’s special relationship with the US is born of both our Judeo-Christian heritage and in recognition of their right to exist as a sovereign nation. In case you haven’t noticed, they are the ONLY democratically formed government in the whole area. You can’t talk about high ideals of democracy amongst a number of dubious rebellions in the M.E, and at the same time hang Israel out to dry. They are our allies, the same as the countries of Western Europe and around the globe.

        Secondly, the attempt to draw the unrelated topic of religious freedom into the argument is either fuzzy logic or intellectual dishonesty. Our religious freedom is based on the Constitution, and you will need to tell us what part of the First Amendment has anything to do with this argument before you can claim any legitimacy.

      • Kinetic1

        Vigilant,
        Are you honestly going to tell me that Israel does not receive special treatment in part due to the religious beliefs of a section of our population? That’s like saying that our relationship with Cuba is not affected by the Cuban-American population. Israel has grown into a very powerful nation. The income levels of their citizens is above those of Spain and Italy. Yes, they exist in a very precarious geopolitical position, and for that reason we have committed ourselves to them, but they receive 1/4 of all our foreign aid! That may have made sense at one time, but given their progress is it really appropriate to continue at this rate?

      • Richard Pawley

        When the dollar is beaten down by the inflation of those who are determined to beat it to death with their insane spending we can give it away to everyone because no one will want it and it will be worth just 30% of what it is now (some think it will become totally worthless and they could be right but that may take a couple of years). China has been trying to get rid of them for years by trading them to other countries for nickel mines (as I pointed out in the first edition of my autobiography), silver mines, gold mines, farmland, oil fields and whatever else they can buy with them. Unfortunately it is far worse than most suspect and that is why non-perishable food is becoming a bit harder to find at non-inflated prices. Check out the following three page letter to the senate if you want to see some startling statistics about how the DEBT IS MORE DIRE THAN ANYONE THINKS and then get ready for the big inflation I warned about in both my books.
        http://www.getliberty.org/files/LetterBalancedBudget3-31-11.pdf

      • Vigilant

        Kinetic1,

        “Yes, they exist in a very precarious geopolitical position, and for that reason we have committed ourselves to them, but they receive 1/4 of all our foreign aid!”

        I beg to differ on your figures. Please check out http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/us-foreign-aid.htm and you’ll see that aid to Israel is about 15%, not 25%, of the foreign aid budget.

        Once again, I’ll say: “To put matters into perspective, our total foreign aid outlays are 2% of our Federal budget, and aid to Israel is only 3/10 of one percent of that budget. From Israel’s standpoint, our aid accounts for just shy of 5% of their total revenues.”

    • http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/six-senators-smear-rand-paul/?eiid&rmid=2011_04_01_PLA_%5BP11470748%5D&rrid=387522712&replytocom=403482#respond Stop Look Listen Learn

      I totally agree with “nickwolf says:
      April 1, 2011 at 9:54 am”. We need a God fearing Government! We do NOT need a bunch of Evil Money grubbing fat cat God & American haters running this country.

  • s c

    I won’t try to go into a defense of Rand Paul. My main beef with what has happened is in the idea that ANY senator(s) can be “shocked.”
    It seems to me that if six so-called senators can be “shocked” on ANY topic, then it makes perfect sense why and how they can’t find a way to balance the budget, stop their wasteful spending or keep a short leash on the America-hating pretender in the White House. Most elected Washington ‘senators’ should have been outsourced years ago.

    • nickwolf

      “American hating pretender”? What does it take to end this
      hate spew coming from supposed Christians? They are going down everyday, in “We the Peoples Opinions” !! Because acting like a juvinal delinquent with hate dripping from non-contributing adults. No new idea’s, no job creation projects, just social Christian hate agenda’s that are as old as the hills and will
      not change the Country no matter how many laws are passed. You had your chance, you proved to be worse than the last eight yrs of Republican failed policies! Now that the recovery is happening and unemployment is going down….you want to go back to Herbert Hoover philosophy? Thats what caused the Great Depression!!! Your losing more jobs by design??? Your cutting spending and slowing the Economy down when were at recovery?? If cutting taxes made jobs, why does it always lose jobs?? Thats it …. I won’t talk to anybody with a Tea Bag over their brain….they have nothing to contribute except bad, UnAmerican, childish mud slinging! They are over!
      John Birchers are going to be judged someday and it won’t be pretty! Fire burns!

      • steve

        What does it take to end this
        hate spew coming from supposed Christians?

        Don’t know if it would end all “hate-spewing”, but it would reduce it greatly if the kenyan would step down.

        We’d all be happier with an American as president.

        Spew THIS.

      • Kenna

        The Hawaiian is NOT stepping down so deal with it. And deal with another 4 years! ahahahah

        Go Senator Nelson!!

      • Richard Pawley

        Wonder what the odds are that Lloyds of London are giving on this bet? It is really curious why Obama has spent so much money to not show his birth certificate but that is trivial to the shape this country is going to be in by the 2016 election no matter who gets elected in 19 months. WWIII might be in full swing by then, the destruction of Los Angeles will be two years old by then (as I said in my recently updated autobiography, LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA, and the reconstruction not even begun (because of the tremendous inflation caused by all the squandering of money by the 110th (and Democratic Congress) or maybe the “big one” will create real jobs and for the next 20 years we will be building a new Los Angeles that will rival the cities we built in China. The Democrats still control congress and it will be interesting if they force a shutdown of the government like the Republicans did in the previous decade. It is so sad that RINO Republicans and Socialist Democrats can’t see that they are destroying the dollar and the economy by all the squandering of dollars we don’t have. I know that most liberals, progressives and Marxists are atheists but they are, as Jesus said, “the blind leading the blind”. The result of spending what we don’t have is going to cause us to have more than 250% inflation. EVERYTHING YOU USE IN DAILY LIFE IS GOING TO COST AT LEAST THREE TIMES MORE THAN IT DOES TODAY (and that is no April Fools joke), by that most hidden of taxes – inflation. Even our money is phony debt coupons that only have value because the Democratic Congress of 1913 turned over the money of the county to a private bank that has never been audited by anyone in government since 1913. There is some doubt that we own the gold in Fort Knox, which hasn’t be publically audited since before John F. Kennedy was president. Even the bankers are going to be hurting when this whole system comes down, but hey, spend till you drop. It’s the new American way! We are rebuilding China with all our trillions and becoming slaves to the banks, the government and the Chinese as we do it. Most Americans would be shocked to see the new cities of China, like something out of science fiction, and like the cities of the Middle East Oil countries, all built with our money, because unions drove busines out of the country and congress passed the highest coroporate taxes on earth with loopsholes that some favored big business can slip through. “Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose,” went the song and I say that all are going to be affected by what is being created. No one on earth is going to be unaffected. I also say Donald Trump for President! He couldn’t do worse than a politician. May God bless America because no one else is going to do so.

      • Carlucci

        The “Hawaiian”? Who is that?

      • Karolyn

        Richard – Do you have any statistics to back up your allegation that “most liberals and progressives are atheist?”

      • http://windstream Jo Anne

        Don’t bet too much on that theory . Obama still has his followers like you but thank all mighty God, most Americans have begun to wake up and to see that his best thing is his imitation of Frank Sanatra. I wonder how many times he practiced that in front of the mirror before the debates. Oh, but I do remember how so many of his fans were praising how intellectual and how great a speaker is was. Some still believe that. God help them! (He does good tela-prompter.)

      • Barbara

        Kenna, you’d have to be pretty stupid to think that Popolo is a Hawaiian. He has no Hawaiian birth certificate. But in all this time he’s paying attorneys to cover up for him he should be able to have a fake one made up by now. How can you Hawaiians be so dumb as to think that he is an American. He hates America and is doing a hell of a job in destroying us. One of these days when you wake up and realize all that is going on it will be too late and you’ll be just another number in his catagory. Just say your prayers every night that the Good Lord will protect all of us from his communist ways.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Richard:

        If Little Barry the half-breed jug-eared facsist Kenyan is re-elected in 19 months THERE WILL NOT BE ELECTIONS IN 2016. It’s just that simeple.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Karolyn:

        All you need do is look at what liberals / progressives. Marxists / facists (sorry for repeating myself so much) believe and you will see that they can be nothing bu atheists.

      • Jay

        Twenty years ago communism in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe collapsed because its atheism did not comport with truth or reality. Man is not an animal or a machine.

        Today, atheism is hastening the death of the West. An atheistic foundation will not sustain life or freedom.
        Many in the West live on borrowed capital from the Biblical worldview. Atheist and secularist academics—the intellectual elites—want to enjoy the blessings from Judeo-Christian roots.

        Yet they despise the tree and hack at its roots, seeking to overthrow the Biblical moral and metaphysical order.

      • Tom

        Bozo the clown could beat the Kenyan, so deal with that. He has spent more than any President since the Great Depression and his most ideal goal was to ruin the American economy.

      • patty

        Karolyn – You write: “Liberalism is a comprehensive belief system denying the Christian belief in man’s immortal soul.” Yet our Beliefnet polls show that 58.7% of Democrats believe in life after death. Doesn’t that disprove your statement?
        No, I think it proves it–58.7% of all Democrats? That’s pathetic. Also, you forgot to ask them the follow-up question: Is that because you hope to come back as a snail darter? Ann Coulteir interview.
        http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ann-coulter-on-god-faith-and-liberals
        That was the only site I could find with a %. I guess it comes from your own political leaders that insist republicans cling to their religion, bible and gun. That would infer that if you classify yourself as a liberal, you don’t do those things.

      • Founding Mother

        All six of the senators who wrote the shameful letter are Jews. They are Israelis first and Americans second. They follow the Talmud. We shouldn’t be giving foreign aid to any country. Also, we should not be fighting the foreign wars for Israel. They are leaching America dry. These are the people Jesus said that call themselves Jews, but are not Jews. They don’t have a drop of Abraham’s blood. Our founding fathers said to stay out of foreign entanglements! Charity towards all, malice towards none!

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Founding Mother,

        Right on!

      • WARLORDX

        You are exactly right Founding Mother. It is my prayer that all ‘hyphenated-Americans’ will decide they are Americans, or go wherever their hyphen takes them. And, never again, should we allow a presidential candidate to enter an election without being totally vetted in all Constitutional requirements. Especially if there is even a HINT of doubt. The mere fact BO has spent millions to obfuscate the issue tells me all I need to know. His actions have proved out my doubts.

        DE OPPRESO LIBER

      • Allen in reality

        From whence did this uneducated dolt appear from? Do you really feel that you can change historic events,by making big fat false claims that it is so? Your perspective of history and Christianity is so distorted that you are not debatable. Arguing with an emotionally charged misinformed fool is an act of futility. Get the truth from infowars.com then come back with a sense of clarity and fight for this country and stop defending neo-libs!

      • Carlucci

        Exactly. And I find it difficult to take anyone like Nick seriously when they can’t even use the apostrophe correctly.

      • Firefly

        Probably the result of public education.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        I think his keebord ddi ti.

      • Angel

        Maybe studying your history about the Rothchild family and how they used their money to not only get their way but buy into everything in America to control things and crash the economy. Herbert Hoover did not cause the depression…the Rothchild family did.

        As far as hate…stating your opinion does not constitute hate. Hate has to come from the heart and only the Lord can judge the heart…not man. Obama stinks, is no good, is a failure and DOES hate America as he sides with the Muslims on every chance he gets and he admitted that he would. I want him out of the WH but that does not mean I hate him and you have no right to judge otherwise about any Christian. You don’t know what is in our hearts.

        Study up…it might do ya some good! http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/07/19/house-of-rothschild-no-one-can-understand-what-has-happened-to-the-planet-without-reading-this/

      • JeffH

        Hear Hear!

      • VinnyPace

        This is not about Obama, Muslims, nor is it about the tea price in China. Randy Paul made a valid point about the necessity to cut foreign aid to Israel and other countries and provided a compelling argument in its defense. Israel has received over 114 billion $ since its inception in disclosed aid + all the undisclosed military and in kind donations from the USA. Why we are not investing our tax $$$ in our poor and our decaying infrastructure is beyond my understanding. Israel needs to learn to depend on itself and start building good relations with its neighbors that are built on justice and equity not land grabbing and political pandering. Israel is a parasite. Its citizens enjoy one of the highest per capita incomes at the expense of hard working unassuming Americans who are struggling to make ends meet.

      • Bud Tugly

        I disagree with Rand Paul more often than not, but on this issue I am in total agreement. We dump much of our national treasure on countries that will never like us and whose fortunes matter little to our people here at home. Much of the “aid” is siphoned off by criminals in their governments We need to focus on our decaying infrastructure which would employ thousands, getting our schools back to a level of excellence, and dealing with the immigration mess that is draining us both culturally and economically.

      • Firefly

        It is the Arab countries that are constantly trying to take land from tiny Israel. Your prejudice is coming through. If there were not so many ex-liberal Democrats over there perhaps they could defend themselves properly, the Chicago way!

      • Marti

        Rand Paul is exactly right. These ’6 senators’ are globalist Israeli whores. Sherrod Brown wants aid to continue to Israel who doesn`t need it, which puts the interest of Americans behind a foreign country. He also is an advocate for an open border with Mexico. Can you say NAU?

      • David Roberts

        I agree with your intellegent reply..Guarantee it went over his head.

      • http://yahoo Lacey

        Thats right Angel I agree. Obslama said in his book Dreams from my Father : If the political winds shift I will stand with the muslims. Why, because he is one.

      • Carol

        Doesn’t this trashing of Rand Paul prove that they are not Christian in the True sense of the word?

      • Lewis Munn

        G00D thoughts..

        One problem is so many people in America do not know what a “Christian” is, and throw the name around promiscuously. Schools do not teach the difference, either, and they should, in Social Studies.

        A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ, not someone who goes to a protestant or catholic church. So many go to church on Sunday, and live for the Devil the other 6-3/4 days of the week.

        It is important to know what a “Christian’ really is. Most called “Christians” are agnostics or unbelievers who go to a club named “church” once a week.

        But those who are against Christian ethics point fingers at the non-believers in the churches as “Christians” and so make it hard for the real converted Christians.

        If their own politics were similarly smeared improperly, they would scream and holler to high heaven. or wherever their god resides! And they do have a god, even if only a set of rules they follow religiously, distorted as they may be.

        I just wish that the enemies of Christianity would be honest in whom they call Christian and whom they tar with their wide brush. The Bible says Christians were known by their love, and see if most that are smeared by their fake Christans, or liberals, fit that description!

        If they do not, stop lying about them, call them hypocrites, perhaps.
        The Bible does. And if you read, there are Muslim hypocrites, but they get killed off rapidly. Muslims do not pussyfoot around on beliefs! No freedom of religion with them.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Lewis:

        “So many go to church on Sunday, and live for the Devil the other 6-3/4 days of the week”.

        How true. Remember, I believe his name was Tiller, the abortion “doctor” who boasted about the tens of thousands of babies he had aborted? He was sent to Hell in church while passing the collection plate. Too bad the congregation was not able to see the hordes of demons that came to collect his soul.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Carol:

        It shows they are afraid of Rand Paul.

        You can easily identify who the communists, I mean Democrats, ah but I repeat myself, and their MSM lackies are afraid of because that is who they demonise.

        They basically viewed Juan Mc Cain as one of their own.

      • Christin

        Yes, Old Henry,

        The Demons, I mean Demos, are out to ruin Rand Paul’s reputation like they did with Sarah Palin. The Left lies and demonizes their strong Conservative opponents in hopes of doing ‘character assassination’ so that the Conservative will not get the positive attention and leadership positions he/she needs to change things (spending, debt, jobs, regulations, and taxes) in WA DC for the better of all Americans.

        The six Democrat senators are “LIBELING” Senator Rand Paul and should be held accountable to their lies.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Christin:

        Do you remember Dick Turbin, I mean Dick Durbin, standing on the FLOOR OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE and comparing our troops to mass-murdering Nazis, communists, Pol Pot?

        He should have been drug out of that chamber, strung up and hanged on the front lawn of the Capital.

        Can you imagine if a Republican had made a similar statement of, say, Planned Parenthood, ACORN, NAACP?

      • Christin

        Yes, I remember the traitor…

        Being hanged or terminated from Congress doesn’t seem to be an option for Leftist Progressives (Communists) who go against the Constitution of the United States of America and Lie about others or demonize them and their lives.

        Hypocracy… Republicans or Conservatives would get the burning at the stake.

        People can disagree about war… when and with whom war should be declared (BY CONGRESS) if at all, but the soldiers are just doing what the Congress or Commrade-in-Chief, I mean Commander in Chief tells them to do.

        I wish our men and women in uniform would just come home and stop fighting with the Muslim nations. The Middle Eastern people have been fighting since the beginning of time and nothing has changed… except we have Redistributed Our Wealth to them by buying their oil and not drilling for our own plentiful American oil and gas resources.

        Frankly, I’m beginning to wonder if most wars are ‘false flags’ (that I have learned aboaut on this site by some) that have been triggered by TPTB to “toy or play” with a people group and get high on our destruction of each other. Hell’s going to be full of these evil people.

      • Cawmun Cents

        First I would like to exclaim that nobody is Christian because of what they have done.They are given grace because of what Christ did.Salvation is a gift for believeing that Christ died to save you from the wages of sin,which is etenal death.It is not something you can earn,and it is not your choice,but Gods choice,who he surrounds himself with.As a Christian,you should be on your knees thanking God for His great mercy,not talking of how others have fallen short.All fall short of the glory of God.Secondly,people have differing opinions on the subject of Christianity,but who among Christians can say that they are completely perfect?None.My point is that peoples view of those who call themselves Christians,whether or not they truly are,is skewed because they do not know what being Christian truly means.It doesnt make us any better off than they are except that we have been forgiven for our sinful wages.We are merely not required to pay those wages to God.Praise be to God for that!Please try to be patient with those who are not yet called or ready to know God.But for His grace go we all hence to pay the wages of sin.

      • Grinning hippo

        what dream world r u livin in? low unemployment, economy recovering?

      • JC

        That’s funny. You just get up?

    • CWS

      THANK YOU!

    • Vigilant

      “Hypocrisy” is another term that comes to mind. These same left wing idiots are the first ones to come to the defense of the PLO, Hamas and Hezbollah as “freedom fighters.”

      • Mike in MI

        Vigi -
        Isn’t that because those groups you name have different names than Al Qaeda, Taliban and other easily recognizeable names of participants in their group therapy round-pounds?
        Libs have been intentionally MSM educated to think that Palestinian “freedom fighters” are “separate”, categorically diverse from any other Iran backed or Saudi backed sort of Nobel Peace Prize winners like Sorry-toe-row, Barry or Gorey, Al.
        They’ve been taught. Now the cement has cured and not much is going to change it. So, I guess this nation’s course is set – their vote counts “1″, also.
        Like a few astte commentators have shown: Libs are in the minority. Therefore – they rule.

      • JeffH

        Vigilant, You are more correct than wrong. It all fits neatly into indoctrination through education. Total unadulterated hypocricy!

        Last week the National Heroes Tour of some of the most honored veterans of the Iraq War was scheduled to appear at Forest Lake High School in the Minneapolis/St Paul area. Pete Hegseth, founder of Vets for Freedom, the sponsor of the tour, is an alumnus of that high school. Apparently in “The Democratic Underground” forums there was an announcement of a press conference by unidentified groups to oppose the appearance. They expressed outrage that Vets for Freedom were going to meet with students to “indoctrinate them on the joys of war” according to reporter Katherine Kersten. They called on members to oppose the appearance and the school promptly cancelled the visit by the NHT. On short notice, the vets moved their program to an American Legion hall, and the venue was packed to overflowing, including some students who skipped school to attend. It seems that some people seem to think that veterans speaking about their experiences is a “political event”, even if others just want to hear from vets about their experiences.

        Yet…The University of North Dakota is sponsoring a lecture by 1960s Weather Underground bomber Bill Ayers, now a “distinguished professor of education” at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Other colleges have done the same including Ayers appearence at Fresno State U., late last year, where I live.

        Columbia University invited Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak, and the President of Columbia University spoke harshly to the Iranian. Columbia University professors planned to go to Iran to apologize to Ahmadinejad, who runs a terrorist regime, for the harsh words of the university president. This also was not a “political event”.

        Iran favors the disappearance of Israel, the murder of homosexuals, and the stoning to death of those convicted of adultery, among other things. I suspect that the National Heroes Tour would not be welcomed at Columbia, nor would a speaker from the Boy Scouts of America. “Political Events”. Go figure.

        Bush leads us to war with terrorists and Hussein and he’s chastised by just about everyone but his wife and father. I’m sure there was a motive along with some humanitarian gestures by the US in the Iraq attack. France and Obama plead with the UN to attack Qaddafi’s evil forces without finishing off Qaddafi himself. The Obama US lead the attacks and immediatley the media and the Obamanites are on board saying it was for democracy and it was humanitarian while the evil Bush is a warmonger! It seems that Obama and his ilk justify war through selectivity. Humanitarian efforts my arse! You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink!

        Is Obama a warmonger? You betcha! Every bit as much as that “evil” Bush was! Don’t expect to read or hear much about the “Warmonger in Chief” though, “Humanitarian in Chief” sounds so rosey…doesn’t it.
        The more things change, the more they stay the same!

      • Richard Pawley

        Except inflation Jeff. It is an earthen dam holding back d’ Nile!
        (Pun intended). We can hope for the best, pray for the best, work for the best, but God has revealed that big time inflation is coming. On a personal level all who can, need to prepare for it. It is rapidly accelerating and congress seems not to care. If every member of congress was forced to put their retirement benefits into US Treasury Bonds they would begin serious work to solve the problems that they have created. As it is they think 61 Billion out of 3,000 Billion of borrowed money is a draconian fanatic cut. I hope I’m wrong but I think we are to far gone, to far in the hole to get out. We have to borrow FOUR THOUSAND MILLION DOLLARS PER DAY just to pay the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Chinese, the Japanese, and all the others who own so much of the USA today. Just 19 months to elections and we can get rid of more of the congress who will not stick to principles. The trouble is the country may not last as long as some of these members of congress. Do what you can with the knowledge that prices on everything but houses are going to triple. Congress has made that inevitable as they allow the government to keep on spending money no one has. That’s why we are just making it up out of thin air. May God help us.

      • vicki

        Richard Pawley writes:
        “…God has revealed that big time inflation is coming.”

        God has revealed to those who would listen. Ask most liberals and they would say “what”?

        Note that God has revealed what is coming. The coming inflation was created by man. Specifically by printing a trillion or so more pieces of paper called Dollar. God’s law of supply and demand shows us what WILL happen next.

        And the law of supply and demand cares not what you believe in.

    • pete

      I would privately give military aid to Israel if I was RICH$$ !!! Sounds good to me. Time to go arms shopping…

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        pete:

        Please define rich.

    • Gordon

      What can you expect from East Coast Dweebs

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Barbarbra:

      You nailed it. It’s such a shame that we do not have anyone in the Republican “leadership” with any stones. What a bunch of Eunicks.

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