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Nixon To Obama: America’s Disastrous War On Drugs

February 23, 2011 by  

Nixon To Obama: America’s Disastrous War On Drugs

America is unsettled about the war in Afghanistan and with good reason; it has lasted almost a decade and victory is not in sight. Yet the nation has been fighting a more insidious war for 40 years. It is being waged along our borders, into our communities and next door to our homes. It is the War on Drugs; a conflict that continues to escalate and which threatens our institutions, friends and family.

I don’t pretend to suggest how we wage and win the War on Drugs, only that we must. Psychotropic drugs are eroding the American way of life. And if we don’t find a solution fast America will become the battlefield that Mexico has turned into.

Last week 40 people died in a bloody surge of drug-violence in major Mexican cities. The bloodshed is typical of the growing violence gripping Mexico as the government employs the police and army to crush drug cartels that grow richer and more powerful each passing year.

Last year, 15,000 Mexicans were murdered in the cartel battles that fought against each other and the Mexican authorities. What hasn’t been so widely reported is the increase in cartel activity on the United States side of the border.

In the wake of this infestation the Obama administration has said it has the resolve to win the drug war. If you think you have heard this message before it is because you have. President Richard M. Nixon declared the “War on Drugs” on June 17, 1971.

“America’s public enemy number one in the United States is drug abuse. In order to fight and defeat this enemy, it is necessary to wage a new, all-out offensive,” Nixon said in a national address.

Nixon went on to add: “I have asked the Congress to provide the legislative authority and the funds to fuel this kind of an offensive. This will be a worldwide offensive dealing with the problems of sources of supply, as well as Americans who may be stationed abroad, wherever they are in the world.”

To say it has been a costly and ineffective war is an understatement. The Los Angeles Times estimates that the U.S. has spent $1 trillion in the past 40 years fighting the war on drugs. That is roughly what World II cost the U.S. (According to www.threeworldwars.com, World War II cost the United States $2.1 trillion in 1990 dollars, or just over $1 trillion dollars in today’s money if you run the numbers at www.InflationCalculator.com.)

All this expenditure and yet we continue to lose this war; a war that Presidents Nixon, Carter, Reagan, H.W. Bush, Clinton, W. Bush and Obama all promised to win.

How do we know we are losing it? The U.S. Justice Department reports that Mexican drug cartels now operate in 2,500 U.S. cities and towns.

There is also the U.S. prison rate. In 2008, more than 7.3 million people were in jail, on probation, parole or conditional release. That was 3.2 percent of the entire U.S. adult population or 1 in every 31 adults. According to a study conducted by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, between one-third and one half of America’s prison population are incarcerated because of drug related offenses.

Obama likes to talk about meeting the nation’s healthcare crisis, but he has spent little time addressing the financial and spiritual cost of drugs.

Finally, on Jan. 27 Obama said the question of drug legalization and regulation is an "entirely legitimate topic for debate" — the first sitting president to do so since cocaine, heroin and marijuana were made illegal.

In a question-and-answer session on YouTube, the President focused on drug policy. Obama responded to a question from a representative of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, a group of former law enforcement officers whose experience on the streets has led them to conclude that drug prohibition actually drives crime and does not solve drug problems. You can watch the video of this question and answer here.

Even though some conservatives, such as the late William F. Buckley Jr., provided reasoned arguments for the legalization of drugs, the President has stated he is not in favor of that. Instead he says drugs should be treated like a public health problem.

I am surprised that the White House and the First Lady have put more energy into promoting a healthy diet for our children than they have in saving our children from the ravages of drugs. After all, the President has mostly ignored the drug crisis. Only recently has Obama even addressed the problem, saying that more money will have to be spent on rehabilitation. This extra money, says Obama, will steer non-violent, first-time drug offenders "into the straight and narrow."

I have news for the President: America is not imperiled by the likes of Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps, who was caught on camera smoking grass. The real threat comes from Mexican drug cartels that represent a clear and present danger. They are vast criminal organizations that smuggle unprecedented amounts of cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine into the country.

The Obama administration denies the impact that cartels are having on America. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano recently told a crowd at the University of Texas at El Paso that it is, “inaccurate to state, as too many have, that the border is overrun with violence and out of control.”

Texas Governor Rick Perry disagrees. Immediately after Napolitano’s speech in which she actually bragged that the Obama administration is protecting the nation from cartel crime, Perry’s office released this statement:

“The federal resources in Texas are woefully inadequate to secure the border with Mexico, and Gov. Perry will continue urging the Obama administration to do its job and protect our citizens from the ruthless drug cartels. It’s unfortunate that a former border governor, who knows the implications of a porous border, continues to downplay the fact that there is a war waging within a stone’s throw, or for that matter, firing range, from our border communities.”

Last year two U.S. consulate employees were assassinated in Juarez, Mexico. Perry ordered Texas National Guard Lakota helicopters to shore up the U.S./Mexican border.

Perry said that the deployment of the helicopters was meant to contain spill-over violence from Mexican drug cartels and that he was willing to put “additional resources on standby to combat any potential situation.”

But defending America’s borders is the President’s job. It seems that Obama is just another President in a long line who has failed to deal with America’s drug problem. The stakes have never been higher than they are for his administration.

Yours in good times and bad,

John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • http://AOL.COM FRENCHIE

    THE WAR ON DRUGS WILL NEVER BE WON. 40 YEARS & WE’RE NO CLOSER TO WINNING THAN WE WERE WHEN IT STARTED. I THINK THE WAR ON DRUGS HAS ACTUALLY DONE MORE HARM THAN GOOD. YOU DON’T SEE CARTELS FIGHTING OVER A 6-PACK OF BEER. NO, BECAUSE IT’S LEGALIZED, TAXED, & REGULATED. IF THE GOVERNMENT WAS SERIOUS ABOUT WINNING, THEY WOULD LEGALIZE DRUGS & TAKE THE PROFITS FROM IT. LOOK, I’M NOT SAYING DRUGS ARE GOOD. I’M JUST POINTING OUT THAT AS LONG AS THERE ARE HUMAN BEINGS, THERE WILL BE A DEMAND FOR DRUGS. ALCOHOL DESTROYS FAMILIES & LIVES ON A DAILY BASIS. BUT YET, IT’S A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS THAT IS CREDITED WITH PROVIDING JOBS, TAXES, & IS NOT REALLY HARMFUL WHEN USED BY RESPONSIBLE ADULTS IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER. DRUGS ARE NO DIFFERENT, REALLY. THE PROBLEMS COME FROM IRRESPONSIBLE PEOPLE, JUST LIKE WITH ALCOHOL. ONLY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT REALIZES THIS & STEPS IN TO TAKE SOME FORM OF CONTROL OVER DISTRIBUTION, SALES, & REGULATION, WILL THE PROBLEM BECOME CONTROLABLE. OR AT LEAST, MORE SO. IF PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO DO IT ANYHOW & OUR BEST EFFORTS ARE DOING LITTLE MORE THAN INCONVENIENCE USERS, DRIVING UP PRICES TO WHERE THEY HAVE LITTLE CHOICE BUT TO STEAL TO GET THEM (NOT TO MENTION MANDATORY DRUG TESTING SO THEY CAN’T GET LEGITIMATE JOBS), OVERPOPULATING PRISONS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING DRACONIAN SENTENCES FOR NON-VIOLENT OFFENSES (ENSURING THAT OUR PRISONS WILL BECOME THE MOST EXPENSIVE NURSING HOMES IN THE COUNTRY), CAN WE REALLY AFFORD LITERALLY BILLIONS & BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE DON’T HAVE TO THROW AWAY ON A WAR THAT WE CAN’T POSSIBLY WIN? THIS IDIOCY HAS TO STOP. THROW IN THE TOWEL, ADMIT DEFEAT, & TAKE THE F*N’ TAX REVENUE FROM IT. THEN YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY CUT THE MEXICAN CARTELS OUT OF THE LOOP. NOBODY GETS KILLED OVER BEER (AFTER PROHIBITION ENDED, ANYWAY) BECAUSE IT’S LEGAL. DRUGS ARE JUST ANOTHER COMMODITY OUR AILING ECONOMY COULD PROFIT FROM IF LOOKED AT FROM A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW & TREATED AS SUCH. BY THE WAY, IN COUNTRIES WHO HAVE QUASI-LEGALIZED DRUGS (NETHERLANDS & PORTUGAL, FOR EXAMPLE), THE RATE OF USERS HAS REALLY NOT BEEN EFFECTED THAT MUCH. PROVING THE POINT THAT IF SOMEBODY’S GOING TO USE DRUGS, THE DRUG’S LEGAL STATUS HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE WILL DO THEM. YES, THIS IS TO INCLUDE TEENAGERS IN THAT STATISTIC. IT MAKES LITTLE TO NO DIFFERENCE. THEY ACTUALLY FOUND THAT LESS TEENAGERS WERE TRYING DRUGS IN THOSE COUNTRIES AFTER QUASI-LEGALIZATION. HMMM, GO FIGURE…. ANYHOW, QUIT WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY & INSULTING OUR INTELLIGENCE BY CONTINUING TO FIGHT A WAR THAT CAN’T BE WON, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY TIMES WE’RE TOLD DIFFERENTLY.

  • HandyDan

    What grand hypocracy! To say the illegal drugs are destroying the Country and not make any mention of the devastation alcohol is causing! EVERYONE knows smoking weed is far safer on behavior and the body than alcohol abuse – yet we continue to criminalize its use cultivation and distribution. Much like the useless Dept of Energy and department of education, both of which are Bureaucratic Fiefdoms that, for ploitical reason will never bee disbanded and allowed to continue to waste taxpayer money we don’t have – the DEA and all law enforcement created to address the marijuana “problem” will never be disbanded lest some entitled public employees and their directors lose their power and jobs. What a sham!

  • Deryl

    Take the profit out of the so-called “war on drugs”, from BOTH sides.

    Only the most naive fail to recognize the HUGE profits made by law enforcement AND the corruption of law enforcement by willfully circumventing state laws to get even higher payoffs. The FBI and DEA have put themselves in the same position as a mafia capo. They allow local law enforcement to sieze private property, surrender it all to the Feds who take a cut off the top of the confiscated property, and then return the remainder directly back to the locals, circumventing state laws requiring those monies to be entered into a General Fund. When cops profit DIRECTLY from enforcing the law, corruption is soon to follow and privately owned prisons with their immoral activities
    are the culmination of that corruption. Making a profit from people being put in prison should scare the hell out of everyone. Only cowards and idiots relinguish their moral responsibilities to a stranger.

    End the Black Market and the war is OVER.

    The prohibition of any substance readily acquired or produced by an individual will never be successful and the public as a whole will suffer in the attempt, AS HISTORY HAS PROVED.

    With the prohibition of alcohol came a vicious black market that made huge profits and corrupted law enforcement. When intelligence returned to end prohibition, the criminals moved to create yet another black market…the War on Drugs.

    When we fail to learn from history, we doom ourselves to the same mistakes.

    • meteorlady

      Good post thanks.

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    What is our exit strategy from the quagmire of the un-winnable War on Drugs? All we are doing is making drug lords even richer and more powerful than we made the alcohol lords during Prohibition.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      The only reason we are making them richer is because we don’t get serious about it! go to Mexico and tell them no more money from us untill they either get serious or let US get serious about eliminating the cartels!!! Seal the border. Tell the Columbian government the same thing!! We send all this money to these south American countries and they refuse to really do anything about control!! Let’s face it, the cartels, as rich as they are, can’t compete with what the US government sends to each of those countries!! IRRADICATE THE CARTELS!!!

  • Tom

    Why does everyone lump harmless marijuana in with hard drugs?? Here in Colorado, the marijuana trade is legal, taxed, regulated, and safe, and NO cartels want anyhing to do with it.
    Any time a government declares war on it’s own people, there’s obviously something wrong.

    • meteorlady

      It may be legal in your state, but under Federal law it is not so be careful…..

  • Dan az

    I agree with the thoughts that if you tax the revenue of drugs by making it legal then the monies that big guv has wasted would be paid off pretty quick.They collect 56 billion a year just on alcohol thats not pocket change it is if your trying to lower the deficit by the way 60 billion is there number they think would show us their trying.RIGHT!

  • Tazio2013

    Legalize, Regulate and Tax is the only way to control the drug situation which is why it will NEVER happen as long as white wing wackos (palin beck and fox noise followers) and majority republikrats remain in power.

    • Vicki

      Well Tazio2013 since the mean evil (I think your ad hominem attack was at republicans) Republicans have been in control since Lincoln… Oh wait.

      Hmmmm….

      2007 Democrats take control of House and Senate.
      2009 Democrats get supermajority and fillibuster proof control.
      2009 Democrats get a DEMOCRAT president who will sign most anything
      from democrats.

      Crickets chirping.
      Time passes
      Crickets chirping.
      Time passes.

      2011 Democrats loose control.

      So tell me please if you will Tazio2013…. Why is it that the war on drugs rages on? The republicans were completely shut out for 2 YEARS. Are democrats that useless? With full control and they still couldn’t end a little war on (some) drugs?

      Or maybe they didn’t want to. Maybe THEY are the problem.

      Side note they have not ended the evil bush terror wars yet either.

    • vicki

      I ask Tazio2013 “So tell me please if you will Tazio2013…. Why is it that the war on drugs rages on? ”

      His response. “”
      /Crickets chirping

  • AnhydrousBob

    The “War on Drugs” is really a war on Economic Law. We have spent billions to nullify the law of supply and demand, and wonder why we cannot win.

    Finding escape in drugs, alcohol, etc is a sad commentary on our society. Many people are destroying their lives by drug abuse. But giving someone with a drug problem a criminal record and spending all that money prosecuting and housing them is a ridiculous solution. Many prominent men at the beginning of the 20th century were addicted to drugs, and still functioned and contributed to society.

    The solution is to reduce demand – and the only way to do that is to help people overcome their addictions. But that only happens when they are ready. Isn’t it time for the churches of the nation to lead the way morally and not leave it to the government to use batons and jackboots to enforce “morality”?

    To say we need to “Legalize” drugs misses a crucial point – the government made something that grows naturally “Illegal” and began its ill conceived war on natural law (Supply and Demand) and with that war the collateral war on liberty.

    • barbm

      Finding escape in drugs, alcohol, etc is a sad commentary on our society. Many people are destroying their lives by drug abuse.

      in today’s society, we work way too much and find we have trouble relaxing when the time comes or even getting to sleep. if it was legal, i’d probably come home from work, cook dinner and get everything done for the night – dishes, shower, laundry, whatever – then i’d sit down and smoke one while watching a bit of tv before bed. i’d for sure have a twinkie before bed (or 2 or 3) :) , then i’d fall asleep before my head hit the pillow. what’s so sad about that? and pot is NOT addictive, not physically anyway. smoking pot is not drug abuse. we could at least start with legalizing it.

      • AnhydrousBob

        Good Point barbm,

        As I wrote, thinking of drug use, I was considering those in the throes of addiction. Now, I can’t see a moral difference between allowing someone to control his own body completely or the government having a say in that. How is there any moral distinction between pot, coke, coca-cola (empty calories), heroin, vaccinations, prostitution, etc, being under the control of the government, or under the control of the owner of the body (or bodies in the case of prostitution).

        Either you own your body, or you don’t. Either you have liberty, or you don’t.

      • barbm

        if you wish to kill yourslef, you have my blessing. it’s your body. when my son was about 7, we were watching a sitcom that said somebody was a hooker. my son asked me what a hooker is. i told him it’s a man or woman who makes their living making other people happy by making them feel good. i don’t have a problem with prostitution if the pro is clean and disease free. there’s where the govt comes in. anything operating behind the line of the law is impossible to control. to keep dealers from lacing pot with heroin to get you hooked, to make sure no dangerous pesticides or other chemicals are used on it or in other drugs, and to control the age of people who can buy it can’t be done as long as it’s illegal. just as prostitutes can’t be made to have no health issues without it being legal and licensed.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        barbm,
        And just how do you make certain her last “customer” doesn’t have AIDS? There is nothing 100% certain!! Don’t try to convince me with fairy tales!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        barbm,
        And BTW. What if her NEXT customer is a husband cheating on his wife, goes home and gives her it?? NEITHER victim knew they were infected yet three people run the chance of a horrible death!

      • Vicki

        AnhydrousBob writes:
        “Either you own your body, or you don’t. Either you have liberty, or you don’t.”

        Right you are and we have not had liberty in this country (USA) for MANY MANY years. Just think of all the things you have to go to nanny government to ask permission to do. That list is VERY VERY long.

        For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

      • AnhydrousBob

        Right YOU are, Vicki. The ideas of Freedom and Liberty have roots everywhere, we just need to nourish them.

        We have to point out that the difference in a world without a Drug War will not be much different than now as far as the amount of drug use, but it will be a world without the crime and violence associated with the black market.

      • Vicki

        AnhydrousBob says:
        “…but it will be a world without the crime and violence associated with the black market.”

        Without the black market “in drugs”. And we have RECENT historical proof. Not just evidence. PROOF. Prohibition.

  • steve

    To “win” the war on drugs, legalize all drugs and have them dispensed for free at all hospitals.

    Don’t legalize and tax. Legalize and dispense freely to all comers.

    Legalization removes the “glamor”,and the profit, thereby reducing demand and supply.

    Drug addicts don’t vote – and even if some do, they couldn’t, in their most befuddled state choose worse than they did in 08.

    Suicide would then be painless and bring on positive changes.

    Many here, as do I, believe in ending the nanny state and restoring individual rights. Individual rights allow freedom of choice and bring an objective mandate for individual responsibility. Choose wisely.

    • JR

      You are wrong,
      Drug addicts VOTE, in our county Meth and drug abuse is rampant. It is a conservative county with the voters voting conservative 90% of the time with a high turnout.
      The cliche that all drug addicts are losers that hang out in a corner and live they’re life in a stupor is just that….a cliche.
      Most Meth and coke users are fully functional in society…in fact, that is the big draw of meth because it is a boosting drug that lets you accomplish a lot more in the same time.
      So, before you come up with such nonsense do yourself a favor and research the topic. The reason most drug users in the end end up in misery is not because the drug inherently causes that but because its illegal and utterly expensive. And thus in order to get the fix they have to resort to crime. Make it legal and a lot of societies problems will go away. But making it legal is NOT in the interest of the lawmakers, pharmaceutical companies, drug lords and any of the many for profit treatment centers out there…unfortunately also many churches that get government subsidies to care for drug addicts and have invested in multi-million dollar rehab centers. There is MORE money to be made for all involved keeping the status quo…….all but the addict…

      • steve

        “and even if some do, they couldn’t, in their most befuddled state choose worse than they did in 08.”

        If you wish, I’ll accept that drug addicts vote – it would finally resolve Obama’s election in my mind. Obviously the result of drug-induced irrationality.

        Fact remains – remove the profit motive and the associated drug problems created by the phony war go away.

        At that point, those interested in saving the users may do so unhindered by me, (as long as they don’t use tax dollars to achieve that end) – and the “problem” of the user will be one that would possibly be of such small scale that the private sector could handle it. At least, nobody would be interested in preventing anyone from helping users/addicts.

        The phony war on drugs merely proves, once again, there are few problems the gubmint can solve better than the private sector.

        By the way,JR, if you wish to challenge me to a debate, based on one of my posts, please be so kind as to actually read what I have written.

      • steve

        In addition, I deal with the public everyday, and I see the results of meth and other addictive drugs. It IS the effects of drugs that are harmful – physically and psychologically – and yes, users ARE losers, no matter how long or briefly they are “fully functional” in society.

        The fact that these frankensteins were created by the war on drugs does not change the facts.

      • meteorlady

        So JR meth is a good thing in your book. I always love seeing these toothless and aged people running around. I love the fact that they bring in their trailers, camp out on someone’s land and cook the stuff. We had one blow up a few months ago and a child in a neighboring house was killed.

      • karolyn

        You just can’t protect EVEYBODY! And what’s wrong with death anyway?

      • S.C.Murf

        You are one sick puppy karolyn and I pray that Jesus has no mercy on your soul.

      • karolyn

        Jesus is my brother and loves me; and he even loves you although you’re the one who’s sick! That’s a hell of a thing to pray for, SC. Death is a wonderful natural release from life on this planet. The spirit is freed from the cumbersome body it’s had to carry around for so long. What’s wrong with that belief?

      • Vicki

        karolyn is correct. You can’t protect everybody. Conservatives point out over and over that a nanny state is NOT good for people. That means that a state that insists on controlling the ownership of guns is wrong. That ALSO means that a state that insists on controlling the ownership of weeds (and poppies and other herbs) is JUST AS WRONG.

        For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        meteorlady,
        you just THOUGHT they were aged!!! That’s what they begin to look like after about ten to fifteen years of heavy use!!!

      • JR

        I did not say it is good, but the reason it causes most of the problems is because it is illegal to make and use. As long as the person can make a huge profit, he will cook it in his trailer…and some of them blow up. The teeth don’t get destroyed from meth but from the use of an ungodly amount of pop and other sugared drinks to fight the dry mouth. Research causes and effect. All that can be addressed with legalization and control. It would cost a lot less to do that then what we pay now. Unfortunately, Meth has become the drug of choice in Americas heartland independent from the political and religious affiliations. Anyone that tells me that he can spot a meth user (unless he is in his destructive stage)by just looking at them is utterly delusional. Meth will destroy Americas middle class and conservative America far more effective then Obama or any liberal politics. And there is another clue, The middle class left and educated left stays away from meth..they have other less destructive means. They stay away and watch the American conservative heartland destroy itself…You think “they” want the war on drugs to stop? Hell NO.

    • meteorlady

      I would never want any of my tax dollars going to dispense drugs. However, I would like to see them legal and let the market settle. We would probably have cheaper drugs and less crime like Europe.

      • steve

        Meteorlady,

        If you legalize and tax, you give the gubmint a motive to “encorage” use.

        Based on their track record, do you feel we could trust them not to abuse that choice?

        Legalize and Dispense.

    • Lewis Munn

      Steve,

      How many innocent people would be killed by those on drugs, even if they are free drugs. Free drugs are no less deadly, and maybe more so since people would take more and be out of their rational minds more of the time.

      If you don’t believe, look at the drug ethyl alcohol, and the slaughter of the innocents on our highways from drunk drivers!!

      • karolyn

        Just because something is made legal does not mean that more of it will be used, not by the majority anyway.

    • Vicki

      Steve writes:
      “To “win” the war on drugs, legalize all drugs and have them dispensed for free at all hospitals.”

      For FREE? You want yet ANOTHER entitlement? Just legalize and let the free markets (capitalism) take care of the details. Weed is cheap to grow.

      • Kate8

        How are drugs supposed to dispensed for free? Only a liberal could come up with something like that.

        Either they would have to be paid for by the taxpayer, or there won’t be any drugs. Big Pharma is in business for only ONE reason: obscene
        profits.

        I’m all for doing away with pharmaceuticals. That would solve a host of problems.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Kate8,
        Thanks alot!! I’m an insulin diabetic!!! I have tried about all the natural aids to no avail, except to about a 20% drop in levels by taking a 1000 unit vitamin E every night! It also helps my cholesterol. There are some pharmaceuticals that are needed!

      • Kate8

        Joe H. – Obviously we need a few pharmaceuticals for conditions like yours. Besides, we need you, Joe!

        But we could do away with the vast majority of drugs and get along much better. In fact, I just read of some studies that showed that, whether drugs or placebos, they worked if the patients BELIEVED would work. What if people had more faith in natural remedies, instead of being convinced that they are worthless? Can anything work if one has faith that it won’t?

        Besides, drugs are killing people, even the legal ones.

      • steve

        Kate8 – u will never meet anyone less liberal than I in your life.

        We didnt get here overnight and we won’t escape overnight.

        Reduce the 60 billion spent each year on the war on drugs to 1 billion spent on dispensation of legal drugs. Believe me – the amount will go down each succeeding year. Okay, maybe it will cost 2 billion.
        But maybe it will cost alot less also. Remember – once drugs are legal they will be much cheaper. No profit motive, no supply. Peeps growing pot in their backyard will not need to buy any.If da gubmint gives it away, it won’t even be worth growing. It will get cheaper and cheaper. If it’s legal, teens won’t be attracted to it because there will no longer be an antidisestablishment motive – it won’t be “cool”.

        Put the ATF to work growing it. When we have a surplus, they can go out and get real jobs – if they can do anything.

        We were phased IN to statism – let’s phase OUT.

      • Kate8

        steve – What if we give everyone who is now addicted to drugs a year to get clean, and then they’re on their own. If they use again, and get into trouble, they go to jail. No more coddling.

        Then we make it really clear through proper educating that anyone who chooses to go down that path will have no public assistance. If they have their own money, okay, but the taxpayer will no longer be held liable for personal choices. Then let them see what happens to those who go there, anyway.

        Actions have consequences. There is plenty of information about what happens to drug users. There is no excuse for forcing those who work hard and take responsibility for themselves to foot the bill for others who make an informed choice. Remove the safety net, and I’ll bet they think twice about it.

      • Vicki

        Kate8 says:
        “What if we give everyone who is now addicted to drugs a year to get clean, and then they’re on their own. If they use again, and get into trouble, they go to jail. No more coddling.”

        How about we stop the coddling now. Use drugs. No big deal. Steal for whatever reason, go to jail. (Harder for special case of stealing food so I won’t go there)

        No year of coddling. No taxpayer paid drugs. No reason for us to pay for their dining choices.

        Steve can start a co-op farm and grow all the herbs he wants and give them away if he wants. Or even start a charity to buy drugs and give them away at “free clinics”. That is a proper use of freedom to provide a free product.

      • Vicki

        Steve I know you say you are not a liberal and you may well believe it but you seem to espouse quite a few liberal ideas.

        steve says:
        “Kate8 – u will never meet anyone less liberal than I in your life.

        We didnt get here overnight and we won’t escape overnight.”

        Yes we can. Repeal ALL drug laws. Quick and efficient. Doing bad things like theft and murder are still crimes. No special deals because you did it under the influence.

        steve: “Reduce the 60 billion spent each year on the war on drugs to 1 billion spent on dispensation of legal drugs. Believe me – the amount will go down each succeeding year. Okay, maybe it will cost 2 billion.”

        Better idea. Reduce to 0. Let Steve form a charity to collect donations to buy / grow herbs.

        “No profit motive, no supply.”

        There will ALWAYS be a profit motive because there will ALWAYS be a demand for some drugs

        Steve: “Peeps growing pot in their backyard will not need to buy any.”

        And peeps that don’t grow pot in their backyard will buy some.

        Steve: “If da gubmint gives it away, it won’t even be worth growing.”

        The government can not give anything away without taking it from someone. Hence the government “free drugs” are not free. It’s mommy government buying the child some “special” candy. Thus perpetuating the nanny state.

        Steve: “It will get cheaper and cheaper.”

        You said it is free. Just above there where the government gives it away.

        Steve: “Put the ATF to work growing it. When we have a surplus, they can go out and get real jobs – if they can do anything.”

        Classic socialism. Right out of the definition. State owns means of production and/or distribution. The ATF should be disbanded not encouraged to get into yet another business.

        steve: “We were phased IN to statism – let’s phase OUT.”

        The pot is slowly boiling. If we phase out we will be too weak.
        Let’s cut to the chase and hop out now. :)

      • Vicki

        Kate8 writes:
        “Big Pharma is in business for only ONE reason: obscene
        profits.”

        This is one of the liberal brainwash lies we really need to stop spreading for them. There is no such thing as obscene profit. In a truly free market competition will effectively regulate profits.

        Add government interference and you have crony capitalism with all the disruption of competition that it creates. I think that might be what you might have meant by “Big Pharma”.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sSg0xjzIec

  • JR

    The only reason we have this “”war on drugs is because Big Pharmaceutic Corporadions and the drug lords are paying our so called representatives to keep it that way.
    If there would be any profit in it for big pharma, the war on drugs would be over long time ago. If drugs would not be illegal, the situation in Mexico would NOT happen, there would be NO drug lords and gangsters to break the law and kill people.

    It is in the drug lords best interest to keep drugs illegal that way they can make the most profit.
    But as always, the federal government is acting like the elephant in the glass store. It would have been far more sensible to regulate and tax the usage. This way the pharma corporations could have made at least a small profit, people selling it legally could have made a profit, the state would have had taxes that could be used to deal with the abuses…the same abuses we have to deal with ANYWAYS….only under the current system, all taxpayers have to pay for it and the user is in for a free ride.

    • meteorlady

      Wrong – Mexico is a third world country with not enough money, jobs or anything much to take care of it’s citizens. The entire political structure is corrupt.

      We have drugs manufactured in this country to keep us going for quite some time. We really don’t need Mexico much for anything. But, since Mexicans are adept at taking advantage of a situation, they come here for a new market and money which they can’t get from their own citizens.

      No, I don’t blame drugs on the influx of illegals, I blame it on economics and the fact that they can come here and take us to the cleaners by stealing our identities, taking every entitlement they can get their hands on, having more children than they can afford to take care of thus sticking us with their bills, and getting free education and health care.

  • Cribster

    I think the most damage being done to the country is from the use of illegal AND legal drugs being used by members of the senate and house of reps.

    Antidepressants are widespread, they fowl up reasonable thinking. It is one reason that would explain the insane policies put forth by our misguided “leaders.” Of course there is also the quest for power and money that corrupts the best of people.

    You can hear it in the voices of people like Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. It’s a slight speech impediment born of brain damage.

    • JR

      unfortunately, drug abuse is not just confined to the left or center it is also rampant in conservative circles. Meth has destroyed many a good conservative….of all ages. I Wyoming, meth is rampant in oil field workers, farmers, judges, police, everywhere… possession of Marijuana or hash and opium is in most cases a parking ticket up to 12 ounce.
      Meth abuse is also rampant in the heart land of the US and no social or political faction is immune. Where I live, in excess of 90% of the people are conservative and Meth abuse is out of hand. And don’t forget the drug that causes more death and sick people, more abuse and child abuse of all…..alcohol.

      So, do yourself a big favor and take off your political blinders. Drug abuse is NOT linked to any political faction, blind hate though is.

      • Bruce D.

        None of my friends or family take drugs. I would not have anyone who took drugs as a friend. While it may be a huge problem in America there are many who find the use of drugs as being of low character.

      • JR

        Unfortunately, you may not even know, Meth, coke or prescription drug abuse can very seldom be noticed until the person is at a point of self destruction. Your best friend could be abusing Meth and you would never know.

      • Bruce D.

        You should be more aware of the problems associated with drugs and you would be aware of those who are taking them.

      • Bruce D.

        Mostly people who take drugs find their behavior to be normal. It is not difficult to pick up on the erratic emotional behavior of drug users or their over emphasis on what would be considered something normal.

      • karolyn

        Bruce, M’thinks you know not what you’re talking about.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        karolyn,
        bruce is more correct than you think! watch a person on any kind of speed. If you can’t tell, you are blind and deaf!! check out a person that has just poped a good score of heroin. Guarantee if you can see, you can tell!! You can even tell most times a person is high on pot!!

      • AnhydrousBob

        Bruce D:
        Hmmmmmmm, while I may not be an addict, I’m sure happy I dont have to rely on friends like you. I would probably “fail” in some way to pass muster with you.
        However, I fully support your right to choose with whom you associate. I just wish you would extend that right to others – the right to control their own bodies and do with it what they will – as long as no one else is harmed.

      • Bruce D.

        Business and productivity are harmed as people who are not all there tend to make mistakes and are proned to injury. I would like to see the social safety net done away with before any drugs are legalized but that will never happen. If people take drugs they should be truly responsible for their own life, health, and outcome of their own actions.

      • mark

        You are a very narrow minded person!

      • barbm

        i wonder how many of your friends and family use and don’t tell because they know you’re a teetotaler. you didn’t say you and they don’t drink alcohol. i NEVER drink alcohol as it’s a depressant and makes you aggressive. i’m already aggressive enough. :) i smoked pot for years before i told anybody outside my little circle, and they were all shocked becuase they never realized it even though i was high many times i was around them. a bit of visine and a spritz of perfume, and i was good to go.

      • Bruce D.

        To me people ought to know when someone is not all there when they are talking to them,especially with pot. To me pot makes a person seem stupid and it is obvious. I am always surprised when people say they do not have a clue. Especially someone who works for you or some who you are familiar with. I do not understand why people do not have better powers of observation.

      • Cribster

        I never said only one political faction is guilty, I just picked two of the biggest miscreants. I’ll throw in McCain if that makes you happy.

        And why is “hate” thrown around so loosely by some people. I am not a hateful person but it seems to be first and foremost on your mind.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        JR:

        Doesn’t meth eat holes in your brain? Or, is that urbn legend?

      • libertytrain

        One of my acquaintances had a big problem with her meth former-live-in boyfriend. She mentioned it was destroying his brain (according to his doctor).

  • Henry Ledbetter

    W00e can never win the war on drugs as long as the FDA INSIST that big pharma is the answer to all our physical problems. All the research money goes to develop the new drugs that is responsible for much of the drug addiction in America.

    • barbm

      i can’t use pharmacy drugs for pain. when i had surgery not long ago, as soon as i was able, i made them stop giving me morphine because it was making me so sick. i can’t use tylenol 3, vidodin, any heroin derivative. the nurses were losing their minds becuae i wouldn’t take anything for pain. i’d rather hurt then take that stuff. i finally told them i’d take a regular tylenol if it’d make them feel better. i stopped smoking pot many years ago because i had too much to lose if arrested. however, when i got home that day, a friend of mine from the old days was there who does still smoke pot. she had one rolled and ready when i walked through the door. since i was already retired, my kids are grown and gone, and i had nothing to lose but pain, i smoked it. 10 secons later, i felt nothing but a little high. a fabulous medicinal weed has been taken off the table because of the narrow-mindedness of the government. it is NOT a drug. it is a natural growing weed.

  • Chris

    What drives the drug problem? DEMAND. The drug cartels are only providing a service that Americans demand. From 1919 to 1932, it was prohibition, but Americans demanded their alcohol and nothing could decrease the demand. Today, it’s “illegal drugs”. What makes them illegal? More Americans die from cigarette related causes, alcohol related causes, automobile related causes, and gun related incidents. Yet they are all legal.

    I think it is time for us to stop declaring “war” on everything. After all, we haven’t won a war since 1945. Let’s think about legalizing, decriminalizing, and putting the drug cartels out of business. Legalize, control, and tax just like we do for alcohol. It is a lost cause to attempt to decrease demand.

  • JIBBS

    Mom, my stomach hurts….I think I’ve overdosed on government control and abuse !

    • BigBadJohn

      LOL Good one

  • BigBadJohn

    The only way to end the war on drugs is to take the profit out of it.
    Legalize drugs.
    The only reason there a turf wars and shootouts over drugs is the amount of money that some low life hoods can make on it. That is the same reason you see pushers in the school yards – lot of money to be made.

    Legalize drugs, regulate them and tax the s— out of them. Use the tax money for rehab programs and education programs.
    There is a certain percentage of our population that will always do drugs – period. So give them enough cheap high quality drugs so they can fit back into society or kill themselves trying.

    Most here scream about loss of freedoms. Look at the war on drugs. Reagan introduced seizure laws to “get the drug dealers”. According to these laws, the government can confiscate your property and you have no recourse to get it back – all in the name of the war on drugs.

    Clinton took this good idea and pushed it even further, he gave local police forces the right to be judge, jury and beneficiary of drug related seizures. The police get to keep a hefty percentage of proceeds from seizures. Some departments have even used this law to confiscate your car for DWI or drag racing.

    Right now due to mandatory sentencing laws the jails are over flowing with small time pot dealers. Often they have let rapists and hardened criminals loose on parole to make room for pot dealers.
    Something has got to change.

    • Dan az

      BBJ
      We AGREE on this one thanks!

    • Buddy

      Big John is correct. If there is no law against drugs, there will be no profit in merchandizing drugs. Hence pushers will be out of business.

      Seems simple – it is simple. But the war on drugs just justifies more (costly) government controls.

    • meteorlady

      You are correct. PBS did a serious on drug use and laws in Europe and they seem to have a much better perspective than we do about it all. There are always addictive personalities – whether it’s alcohol or drugs and those people will always be self-destructive.

      Just legalize them and let the market settle where it will. The offer rehab for those that want to better themselves. Let the rest kill themselves, they are going to anyway.

  • Stephen

    The prohibition of cannabis has to be one of the crimes of the century. It has so many positive attributes it is mind blowing. A couple of interesting Videos on the subject are What If Cannabis Cured Cancer. This has the science and research. Magic Weed gets into the other industrial characteristics of this plant. And if you want to understand one of the reasons government isn’t credible watch Grass, laugh and cry at the ridicules propaganda campaign.

    • JIBBS

      Did you know that every part of a pot plant is useful, seeds for baking, rope, cooking oil, medical, ect, ect. Hemp jeans last twice as long as cotton jeans and would drive down the cost of cotton.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        JIBBS:

        Hemp jeans? You know, when we saw a hot chick in a pair of tight jeans that would add new meaning to the term “smokin’ hot”…..

    • http://centurylink motorhome

      henery ford wanted to grow dope 4 the oil and fiber 4 industial use that would have infringed on oil-petro bussiness he was shot down what a country???and there still tryn 2 tell us that clean energy is long way foo while they make billions keep sukn there left nut???the cheneys bush saudias love u 4 it???bush family has 100 thousand acre estate n argintinia and now weve made deal 2 station marines near them on base down there 4 there protection and we the people have 2 pay 4 this pull the marines and let bush family pay out of there pockets if they want protction its not 4 us 2 provide 4 them out of this country??? motohome

  • http://wellington-luxury-homes.com katerina

    We must end the war on drugs. I am very conservative in my own life and do not take drugs, smoke, drink, etc however that decision is mine to make. However, that being said, politically I am a libertarian and that means that I do not push my values on others. But rather, believe, that anyone of legal age should be able to do to their own body that which they choose. Government should have authority over the bodies of their citizens. As long as you do not cause harm to another human being you should be able to put into your body whatever drugs or whatever you wish to. The war on drugs is a waste of money. Since Nixon the war has not been won. We are losing this war and will continue to lose it until we legalize drugs. End the prohibition. Yes, more people will try drugs but also if you study civilized countries that allow drug use, only 5% of their people even try the drugs. Because of our social makeup here- more than 5% will try drugs and some more might become addicted but the money we would spend A LOT less money on rehab than on fighting the war on drugs. Really, I am very empathetic but that empathy should not lead to controlling another person’s decisions. Their agency is theirs, not mine and not the governments. If people want to OD on Heroine, let them.

    • Johnnyrite

      Very well said. Thank you Katerina!

  • Lray

    For all that has been spent and all the ideas that have been put out there to control the drug problem I have yet to see anyone do anything to cut the money flow. Why are we letting them get their money laundred. Seems a simple solution to me but then some of the big banks would get their toes stepped on if the laws were enforced. God forbid if that happened!!

    • Vicki

      Lray writes:
      “Why are we letting them get their money laundred. ”

      We arn’t. RICO. And you see how well that works.

  • Steve

    Why must we win the war on drugs? What reasonable excuse does the government have to ban it’s people from doing something they want as long as it doesn’t infringe on the rights of some one else. I don’t see how it’s possible in a ‘free’ country to force a percentage of the people to not do something they want to with out making those who would provide access to what those people both rich and underground heroes. If some one wants to sit around getting stoned out of their mind and maybe destroy their own life for the moments of enjoyment they have getting stoned, why should you, I or the government have the right to not let them have the kind of life they chose. War over, gangs are no longer heroes, they no longer have huge sums of money, people are more free to build or destroy their own lives as they see fit…

    • http://wellington-luxury-homes.com katerina

      @Steve- You are so right. We do NOT have the right to tell others what to do or how to live nor does our Nanny state. And this is why the war on drugs will never be won by those who seek to control the lives and decisions of others.

      • Vicki

        Therein is the problem with the war on (some) drugs. It is not about winning. Its about control.

        For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

    • Lewis Munn

      Steve,

      The problem is that they do not stay at home and not bother anybody else.

      I had a friend who believed as you say, until her car was stolen by her friend high on pot, and wrecked, taking away her livelihood, and thus she lost her house, unable to keep up payments.

      Victimless crime? I don’t think so! He would have been high and stolen her car whether Pot was legal or not!

      • Vicki

        Lewis Munn says:
        February 23, 2011 at 10:35 am
        “Victimless crime? I don’t think so! He would have been high and stolen her car whether Pot was legal or not!”

        Making the point that the crime (with a victim) is car theft. Not pot use.

    • Kate8

      Steve – Sure. Let them destroy their own lives. If they are set on doing it they’ll find a way, anyway.

      What I would add to that is, if they choose that route, they cannot count on society to pick up the tab for their shattered lives. A bit of self-accountability would go a long way here. Consequences are great educators.

      • Vicki

        kate8 writes:
        “What I would add to that is, if they choose that route, they cannot count on society to pick up the tab for their shattered lives.”

        Only if we stop obamacare :) and other liberal control dreams.

      • Kate8

        Vicki – We need to start saying NO to Congress and the Usurper. They are the ones in the wrong here, not us. Unfortunately, we’ve become sniveling spineless livestock who think we have to bow to “authority”, no matter how egregious, immoral or unlawful.

        I, for one, do not intend to EVER sign up for Odumbocare, no matter what they try to do. If a large enough percentage of us stood up to them, we’d win, one way or another.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        kate8,
        The problem is even before Noblama got in office, we were supporting and caring for these drug addicted jerks!! We will continue to care for them for a self inflicted “sickness” untill we get REAL tough on the a$$holes!!

      • Vicki

        Until I see the entry on the tax form I don’t know what will be necessary to make the point. It will have to involve 10′s of millions of us though. Otherwise they will just throw us in jail for refusing to pay the “tax”. We know it is a tax cause the government said so when arguing in court that they had the power to force all of us to pay into obamacare.

  • renegade

    The Government should at least leagalize pot to clean out some jail space for the real drug dealers. Sell pot in gov approved stores and use the profits off of sells to fight the coke, meth, heroin smugglers.Have never seen anything really wrong with pot. The only thing wrong with pot is it is illegel.Use the profits off pot sells to fight drug smugglers not everyones tax money.

    • http://centurylink motorhome

      u ever see pot smoker start fight ,rob ,rape ,kill NO no and no but listen 2 fbi s bullshit a criminal org started by criminal run by criminal and they still honour him what does that tell u about them???leaglize drugs and the illicit market will evaporate/ what the hell u got doctors writing hundreds scripts day makn killn off perscription drugs thats ok they went 2 college and there helpn there drug manfacturingcorp criminal drug buddies what a country.when i was n first grade they had us divn under our desk in case of nuclear attack i wouldn t do it a desk wasnt going 2 protect and i was n seventh grade and knew better and i still dont believe any of there bullshit??motohome

      • libertytrain

        Remember in the old movie Airplane when the flight attendant asked if anyone spoke Jive, and “Leave it to Beaver’s” best dressed mom, said “I do.” I sadly do not speak “text.”

      • Kate8

        libertytrain – Nor do I. Sadly, it seems to be the new Amerikan language.

        Today, everything is cheapened, nothing has value.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        motorhead:

        Will you please bone up on your spelling, typing and grammar?!

        It looks like you are a product of the modern liberal school system.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Motorhead:

        Yea, I always did think of FDR as a criminal.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      That would also help the farming industry by giving them another cash crop.

      Adds new meanign the line Way out here, on my John Deere….

      • gary wilcox

        To Old Henry; Now that is green jobs,go pot green.

  • combustioneer

    Legalization and regulation of cocain, marijuana, … will remove the lucrative nature of the illeagal drug trade , improve the finances of the source nations, make the drug use safer for those who partake due to the removal of the dangerous cutting products used by illicit dealers, remove the fear of prosecution that prevents many from seeking help, add to the tax revenue of states and federal govt. There is no downside to this. Those who want to use will and do now. Those who say that we would see a dramatic increase in DUI incidents, discount the fact that the laws against drugs don’t stop people from using them. Yes it is true that some who are respectful of law may try them if the laws change, these are responsible people who would use them responsibly just as the majority of people who use alcohol do so responsibly. It is time to recognize AGAIN that prohibition doesn’t work. Put the cartels out of business. Stop filling our prisons. Facilitate a huge drop in violent crime. End the “Drug War”, declare peace on those who use drugs and help those who want to stop and can’t.

    • http://centurylink motorhome

      to quote nixon im not a crook but he is a murderer 1956 guatamalahis friends didnt want agov of by 4 people who would pick there banansand we backed dictatores 4 50 years we r the criminals????and reagan north drugs weapons to get carter out of office so cia could deal/sell drugs guns can any of there agents pass forensic financial exam that worked n central south america NO the war on drugs was another way 4nixon and his cronies 2 make billions its all a ponzi schememoney guns drugs while we the people r the ones lockd up not the perps??????

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        And then there is dick-for-brains and his slaughter of American women and children by governmnet forces on our own soil at Waco.

    • Lewis Munn

      Combuts,

      You then believe we should remove all restrictions on guns, also? Same idea. If we all can have all the guns we want, will this reduce shooting asnd crime using guns?

      I see no difference with getting drunk, running a red light at high speed, and killing a carload of innocent kids, than arming with lots of guns and shooting up carloads of innocent kids.

      Think of the results of what you say, if generalized, and explain why one situation is perfectly OK to kill innocents and the other is not!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Lewis:

        There absolutely should be no gun regulations. None.

      • Vicki

        I have always been amused at the ability of people to read. How hard is it really to understand “…shall NOT be infringed”.

      • Ellen1

        ABSOLUTELY !! The Second Amendment leaves no room for ANY restrictions or regulations. An armed society is a polite society.

    • gary wilcox

      to;Combustioneer,MY centaments right to the point.Why does not the gov,see it that way.This country needs a new tax base.Let the pot smokers get us out of this mess.It seems the gov cant do it.This would take money from the cartels, hit them in the poket,now that is war.Prohibition didnot work,why then does the gov.keep trying faild policy.I think our gov.is in a state of ALTERED REALIT.Prohibition lasted about 8yrs,The ware on drugs 40+.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      combustioneer,
      NO DOWN SIDE????? Are YOU gonna take care of all the druggies that can’t take care of themselves?? Are you gonna take care of their kids??? I don’t think you are equipped moneyt wise, son!!! Why the hell should we the people have to support people that are sick from a self induced sickness??? Get real, kid!!

  • Iris

    The year I was born, 1933, drugs were made illegal that had all been legal. The absolute law of supply and demand immediately went into play, driving the costs of drugs up once they were illegal. Until then, anyone could have bought whatever they desired at the local drugstore.

    Once the supply dwindled and the cost went up, drugs became a profitable and illegal enterprise. There is no doubt that drug use can be dangerous for the user. It is now an absolute proven fact that drugs are now dangerous for any innocent who happens to get in the way. If fools want to ever dose themselves, as sad as that may be, who are you (or I?) to stop them. After prohibition was eliminated, I have no doubt that some fools killed themselves with alcohol and still do, but the innocent people who have nothing to do with it are far safer than they were in the prohibition days.

    Legalize drugs, they will then drop in price and will be taxed. Will some fools overdose (mostly in California) and die? Yes. But other innocents will live.

    • Lewis Munn

      Iris,

      What about all the innocents who are killed every year by drunk drivers, drunk on legal and widely sold beverages?

      You need to consider the slaughter on the highways, and the crimes also, caused by the ready availability of beverage alcohol.

      Yet you say we are better off to have legalized this dangerous drug?

      • mark

        How many people are killed by elderly drivers. I live in Florida, there is noting more dangerous than an elderly driver that can just barely see over the steering wheel.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        mark,
        So adding millions of legal drug users is better?!?!?!

      • Ellen1

        We’ve already got millions of legal drug users who are driving. The age gets lower and lower but if you ask so many older people what drugs they’re ingesting, you’d be appalled at the laundry list they’ll produce. These drugs slow the cognition and reflexes and probably a lot more. These are LEGAL drugs, folks. As long as we continue to support a “health care” industry whose idea of treatment is to merely suppress symptoms and thereby create new problems things will never change.

        Conventional “wisdom” in this country is to ask your doctor about this or that drug. Last I knew, our bodies are NOT deficient in drugs.

    • Libertarian

      Iris,
      you are dead on!
      before we can engage in ANY meaningful discussion we MUST know the history as well what other countries have done SUCCESSFULLY!

      Here are 3 picks:
      1) what Portugal has done in response to a horrific problem caused by the abuse of drugs & how successful they have been,
      2) what the Prison Industrial Complex has done in the US &
      3) WHO benefits by the present system.

      1) http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080 – Drug Decriminalization in Portugal: Lessons for Creating Fair and Successful Drug Policies | Glenn Greenwald | Cato Institute: White Paper
      1a) http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/greenwald_whitepaper.pdf

      2) http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=864268000924014458&ei=2GNwS7vQIp6aqQOf7dy_Bg&q=war+on+drugs&hl=en&client=firefox-a# – War on Drugs (The Prison Industrial Complex) (1999) -this is already 12 years old!!!

      3) http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=864268000924014458&ei=2GNwS7vQIp6aqQOf7dy_Bg&q=war+on+drugs&hl=en&client=firefox-a#docid=-8231634812734884936 – American.Drug.War.The.Last.White.Hope.avi

      As far as Afghanistan is concerned: yes it is about the pipe line from the Caspian Basin (worth 12-15 trillion $) &… poppy fields (which the Taliban almost completely eliminated, chocking of supply of heroin to close to 0%!)

      • eddie47d

        The costs to incarcerate are always higher than rehabilatation.That also overburdens States and taxpayers money. Yet we keep doing it and the drug wars continue. So much for cause and effect assesments and learning anything.

  • Butch

    Quit pussyfooting around the problem. The problem is that the punishment is not severe enough- not for drug dealers and not for pedophiles. We need a mandatory death sentence- for pedophiles the first offense and for drug dealers the second offense. These bleeding hearts say it is not a deterrent- I disagree- you can not molest children or deal drugs when you are dead.

    • http://www.jolsonbaldwin.com CLIVE BALDWIN

      Well said Butch.
      Its in the nature of the baby boomers to alter their blood chemistry. They can’t stand their music or their morals without them. Armageddon is the bible prescribed solution. To our Liberal-minded readers, sorry to be so truthful. I know it hurts.
      THE SUMMER OF LOVE
      Bars on the Windows locks on the doors that’s the fruit of the summer of love.
      Panhandlers drug Peddlers Clinton and Gore that’s the fruit of the summer of love.
      In 1967 you had aged to twenty-one the permissive generation; not controlled by anyone.
      You are our sons and daughters and you’re here to orchestrate the one-world governmental power that will have a sorry fate.
      To homogenize humanity is clearly your intent, in defiance of the lessons taught in God’s Old Testament.
      You’ve built a Tower of Babel called the worldwide Internet, and perversion is approved of by the gay and lesbian set.
      And you do not respect the past it has no relevance, you disobey your parents, their traditions make no sense.
      “Trust no one over thirty” was your destructive bawl well now you’re reaching fifty there is no trust at all.
      You children of the new age have transformed wrong to right your non-judgmental P.C. declares it’s wrong to fight.
      But fight we must against a foe Satanic as can be whose emptied churches, filled the jails, its plain for all to see.
      It is written in the Scriptures that children shall oppress, and if we tend to spare the rod, they’ll do it more, not less.
      This honest observation proves the bibles words are true, read Second Timothy Chapter three, it is describing you.

      Quote, “In the last days perilous times shall come, for men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, proud, boasters, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, false accusers, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, high minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof. For of this sort are they that creep into houses of silly women, laden with sins and led away with diverse lusts, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” End quote.
      I need to add a postscript to this rhyming expose’ you’ve had your revolution we see it more each day.
      Of course you couldn’t know it but, God is using you, you’ve proved the truth of prophecy with all the things you do.
      It’s not God’s thing to force you to recognize His power. He pleads for you to come to Him before the final hour.

      ©Clive Baldwin. August 9, l993

      • http://centurylink motorhome

        sounds like ur describing jon boehner/mark sanders/jon ensign/bill clinton /eisenhower/j edgar hoover what a real piece of [offensive word removed] he was and now we have a gov p[olice force formed by him modeled after vhis perverted justice y wont the fbi certify there labs and investigative policys????obama is what u get when u have 8 12 years of murder mayhem in the name of freedom???i e cheney where did he get money 2 give the taliban 4 pipeline thru afganistan and when they didnt deliver his words therell be pipeline or bombs ur choice quit [offensive term removed] arrest him he murdered 3500 people 4 greed??? motohome

      • Conservative at Birth

        Why don’t you take a remeial course in language, so that somebody that is interested in your drivel may better understand it.

      • http://centurylink motorhome

        piece of shit is not offensive word cheney is offensive word????

      • http://centurylink motorhome

        angel were not n 4 a bad time go 2 ur proctoligist we r n it all ready and its going 2 get a lot worse???ask cheney were the money came from 4 taliban 4 pipeline thru afganistan???????corruption run strong and deep????

      • http://?? Joe H.

        motorhome,
        I don’t know about the rest of them, but until you quit texting, I’m not reading anything more by you!! Just too much trouble!!

      • Ellen1

        Agreed, Joe H!

      • Kate8

        CLIVE – Well done! We are, indeed, in the prophetic times.

        It’s astonishing that we have so many among us who do not see this. I know many people who think our current condition is progress!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Kate*:

        “It’s astonishing that we have so many among us who do not see this.”

        That is also prophesy.

      • Kate8

        Old Henry – Indeed it is. Because of their rebellion, He causes a delusion to come over them, and they are deceived.

        Clearly.

        And no matter how bad things get for them, they refuse to change their ways.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Clive:

        That is one of the most wonderful, profound posts I have read here. Thank you for putting it up.

        I am an early boomer and have been repulsed by my generation as a whole since my teen years in the 60s where I grew up. However, I never did drugs. Drank a little beer, but never swallowed….

        Thanks again.
        Old Henry

    • doug

      I agree Butch, how about the death sentence for drinking while driving, smoking while driving, and texting while driving???

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Doug:

        That’ll work if someone dies as the result.

    • Cy

      You could always move to China. Someone with such high opinions as having “mandatory death sentence for drug dealers” should be surrounded by like minded people.

      • Lewis Munn

        And China is eating our lunches and dinners while we are too high to notice!! And too high to make sensible decisions.

        They work while we party!! And it shows, in our jobless rate, and in the low quality goods that we purchase from them and use.

      • Ellen1

        The Chinese people work as literal slaves controlled by their totalitarian government…….we’ll be there soon.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Cy:

        Move to Europe so you can be surrounded by like-minded people.

        You can also pay even higher taxes over there to support those vermin.

    • Richr

      Right On Butch !!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Butch:

      Bravo!

      The one exception I would make is execute drug dealers after the FIRST conviction. They are simply molesting our children in a more subtle manner.

      Use a gallows and a rope. Put it on the evening news. Show it the next day in our high schools.

      Also, execute rapists and the “three time loosers”. Why should hard-working taxpayers have to support that vermin for the rest of their lives? Three squares a day, free medical care, etc. We can let the taxpayers keep their property – AKA money.

      • barbm

        if you’re a Christian, you don’t believe in abortion because it’s murder. yet, you have no problem talking about putting others to death. thou shalt not kill. i do NOT believe in either abortion or the death penalty. i do believe all pedophiles, murderers, and rapist should get life without parole. unfortunately, our prisons are so full of people convicted of drug related offenses that there isn’t room to keep the bad guys in and keep the druggies in also. so they’re letting the bad guys out to keep the druggies in. you can say druggies are bad guys too, but whom would you rather have living next door, a pot smoker or a pedophile?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Do some reading in the Old Testament. It is all laid out there.

        Jesus said He came to fullful the Law, not to change it.

      • karolyn

        Death is no punishment; it is a reward. The spirit is freed from this cumbersome body. Life in prison is the worst punishment anybody can get. Depriving a person of their freedom is the ultimate.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Karolyn:

        Death is a reward only for those who die in Jesus Christ. Death for those outside Christ (atheists, Muslims, etc.) is eternal punishment.

        Paying non-stop confiscatory taxes to support those vermin is indeed hell on earth.

      • karolyn

        Old Henry – You have your belief; I have mine.

      • gary wilcox

        Well said.Make a place for the creep,not the pot smoker.

      • Kate8

        barb – The Commandment is Thou shalt not murder. That’s different from kill. Scripture says that if we intentionally take a life, our life is to be taken. Also, we certainly have the right to defend our own lives, or those of another being threatened.

        Did the Israelites have a prison population? I don’t think so. I think they swiftly took care of murderers. There was a place of refuge for those who accidentally took a life.

        On the other hand, God allowed Cain to live, but afflicted him with some sort of mark. And Yeshua said that if we hate, we are guilty of murder.

        Interesting question, isn’t it? I suspect some common sense is in order here, although we are in short supply of that these days.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        barbm,
        you are comparing apples and oranges again!!! Name just one crime the unborn have committed??? A child molester should either be put to death or turned over to the parents!!! A building, a nail, a hammer, a knife and a fire would solve the whole thing!!! Never to offend again!!!!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        If given a choice I think I would lean toward the molester. They can be shot, buried in the timber and no one would much care what happened, or where they were.

        Shoot a pot-head and everyone would be up in arms.

        I worked with a fella years ago who had lived in the “hills” most of his life. He told me in a conversation one day that “back home” they had a child molester in their town who had practiced his trade. They did not call the police. They took the SOB into the woods, nailed his scrotum to a stump, set the stimp on fire, gave him a knife and left. He was never seen again.

        Now that’s a solution!

    • karolyn

      I can just see you bein happy with your kid facing the death penalty for using or selling drugs! The trouble with people like you is you need to be educated. The tunnel-vision you display is just plain ignorant!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Alright O Wise One.

        Educate the masses who are sick and tired of having their money, earned from working 60 to 70+ hours a week at two and three jobs, stolen from them by the government to support these vermin.

        Oh, I did not say anthing about users, only dealers. They are the ones who create the users by their predatory actions of selling drugs.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Old Henry,
        Her father should have introduced her to tough love!! My friend turned his son into the police for theft and the kid went to jail for six months!! He hasn’t stolen a thing from his father since!!! Or anybody else for that matter!!

      • karolyn

        I have to find the article that someone posted last month about how the war on drugs is keeping black youth down because selling drugs is so lucrative. It’s a really good article.

    • Ozlanthos

      I AGREE! We need to kill all of them! Including the bankers that profit off of the money laundering, the politicians that have allowed it to go on for so long, the cops who take bribes and kick-backs to look the other way and/or sell drugs themselves…all of them!

      -Oz

  • Al Sieber

    John Myers, good article.the war on drugs has accomplished nothing, and you’re right, our borders are over run with violence that is moving north. while this president ignores the situation.

    • Dan az

      Hey Al
      You know what ercks me is big sis refusing to do the job that she complained about the whole time she was guv.I remember her holding up a giant check to the cameras and saying that this is what is owed from the feds,I don’t think she got the money and now we are suing the feds for two billion a year to compensate what we pay for them not doing their jobs.I dont think obumer really wants to push the issue because where would he get his drugs?You know if they would let us take care of it there wouldnt be a problem.Ive seen 1800 meter shots that would deter any one from thinking they could come and go.But what do I know I’m just a red neck.

      • Al Sieber

        I’m with you on that Dan, from one educated “Redneck” to another. this is gonna be a interesting year.

      • Dan az

        You can say that again Al!Hey Im checking in to those batteries that you told me about sounds good.Im trying to see what the cost is if you have a site post it!Ill get back to you when Im done checking it out.

      • Al Sieber

        Dan, I’m not sure where I read that.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Al:

      I detest Little Barry, but sadly every president in my lifetime, and before, has ignored the border issue.

      None of the current crop of Republican canidate-wannabes have a decent Numbers USA score on immagration.

      We need a leader who will line the border on the south and give the order to shoot to kill anything coming north.

      If that drives them to the northern border we do the same up there, shoot anything ciming south.

      • mrbill

        I am with you Henry. If you think it is not a problem, come on down here to Texas and see for yourself. We have 140,000 troops in the UK and Germany. Why not give them a tent and a (loaded) gun and line the border. Anyone who thinks this is not going to spill over to our side has to be living in a dream world. This won’t stop it but sure would help.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Al:

      I don’t think Little Barry, Nazipolitano, are ignoring it. I think they are watching closely for it to become bad enough for them to justify marshal law and they can then implement their planned police state.

      Nazipolatano has been sofening up the American public with her facsist tactics in air ports. Feeling us out, so to speak, to see just how far she can go. And she has found out.

      • Al Sieber

        I agree with you on that O. Henry.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Al:

      I would not say the war on drugs did not accomplish anything. I accomplished what the liberals and one world scum wanted: the decay of America from within. However, I think it occurred faster than they anticipated.

  • Barbara Humphrey

    The way to win the war on drugs is to end the war on drugs. The harm inflicted by the war is far worse than the harm inflicted by the drugs. The war money spent on police, prosecution, and prisons could be more productively put toward education, jobs, health care and rehab, saving individuals, families and neighborhoods from the ravages of the drug merchants. Check out Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and Citizens Against Prohibition, current and former drug warriors who advocate for legalization and control as the only way to win this 40+ year old war.

    • http://wwwroyaltoypoodle.com maxi

      the cost of the war on drugs is high but the cost of using is equally as bad. Look at our society and see the problem. We have kids od ing on drugs and using. Our society could have better students in schools if none used drugs. There would be no rehab hospitals/half way houses etc. if drug use did not exist. Crime would dwindle dramatically. The cost of all these related services and needs caused by drug use would cease. What a dream. I grew up in the society where drugs were not in existence for street use as today. It was much better then. I was born in 1945 USA. In fact, Brooklyn NY. I used to walk around the block in my neighborhood by myself as a kid. No one would dare do that today.

      • Buddy

        Evidently, Maxi believes that more government control will sole the drug problem. Sounds like the answer to government prohibition is more control. In other words, “if it’s not working, we need more”.

        That’s what got us collectively into this mess.

      • Bruce D.

        Excerpts from The Daily. “Limited government is impossible unless citizens are capable of self-government. And citizens cannot self-govern unless they have some intrinsic notion of morality, which keeps them from encroaching on each other’s rights. Without self-governance reinforced by personal morality, a paternalistic state becomes inevitable.”
        To me this makes sense and is why the left has been able to impose “a paternalistic state” in the name of personal liberty. For some of you it won’t make sense and will make the case that controlling the free use of drugs is paternalistic. Before you do that I want you to know I also understand that argument. Drugs in effect are a curse on society. One we all have to live with, legal or not.

      • Kate8

        Bruce D. – You are quite right. Destruction of moral structure is always a first step in the move toward total government control. It does, in fact, render self-governance impossible.

        This is a lesson repeated over and over in human history, and one we never seem to learn. By appealing to man’s animalistic tendencies toward instant gratification, those in power manage to convince certain factions that destroying morality is a good thing. Promoting drug use, covertly, of course (making it forbidden fruit) certainly helps to facilitate this agenda.

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Kate, why do you deny people pot (medicine in many states) and at the same time claim you don’t want a nanny state?

        Rob

      • Bruce D.

        I would like to add that ‘Entitlements’ are one huge spin off of drug use.

      • Jonathan Lucas

        I am opposed to the “war on drugs” too, but you don’t want to answer the question with empathy for our children, you just want to insult Maxi. How do you want to keep drugs from ruining families and lives? That is the million dollar question that needs to be answered by true conservative-libertarian patriots.

        I truly think we need to provide education for our children and grounding in Christ and allow the government to get out of the way and stop prohibition of drug use. Just like smoking tobacco products is wrong, kids need to know drug use is just as morally wrong and wrong just as well.

      • Robert Smith

        Jonathan, you ask: “How do you want to keep drugs from ruining families and lives? That is the million dollar question that needs to be answered by true conservative-libertarian patriots.”

        Try this for an answer for pot: Make it legal like alcohol is. It is a weed so it will be very cheap. It is the lying, legal, and stealing that messes up a family. Eleminate the need for those three and many families will be saved.

        BTW, if you don’t want a nanny state why do you deny adults their drug of choice while keeping alcohol?

        Rob

      • HandyDan

        If cows had wings they’d fly! ‘If drug abuse didn’t exist…” but it DOES exist, and no amount of law is going to change that! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO HAVE A NEED TO EXPERIENCE AN ALTERED STATE OF REALITY, PERIOD! Citizens have proven since weed was made illegal in 1935 that the law makes no difference. As a result, it is the law that has ruined lives, not the use of marijuana. BTW Weed was made illegal because it was popular among illegal immigrants from Mexxico and the citizens in Wy, AZ and NM lobbied Congress to pass the first law – FOR RACIST reason!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        More problems caused by these damned illegals.

        Shoot everything coming north over the border. Anything going south if fine.

        It’s time to get serious.

        An “alter state of reality”, hmmmm, sounds like liberalism.

      • Bruce D.

        Food for thought.
        If drugs use is legalized then businesses might be force to hire drug users under non discrimitory legislation.

      • Robert Smith

        And like with alcohol if they show up under the influence they can be fired on the spot.

        What’s the problem again?

        Rob

      • andy

        the problem was when it spilled from the ghetto’s
        and poor to the middle class and upper middle class that’s when it became a problem until then no one cared

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Andy:

        That may well be true, but nevertheless the problem is still there.

        It is kind of like back in the 50s and 60s when the blacks were getting rights down south. Up north they did not care how many rights the blacks received, so long as they did not get too close. When they did due to their new-found rights the northerners got upset.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        andy,
        when they get so mindless on long term drug use that they crap themselves in the corner, who has to take care of them?? The tax payers! When they are so psychotic that they have to be put into a psych ward, who pays their bills?? The tax payers! When a $100 a day habit goes to a $500 a day habit, who pays in break ins , thefts, and armed robberies? THE TAX PAYER!!! I’m one tax payer that’s DAMN tired of footing the bill for their “altered state of reality”, son!!!

      • Bruce D.

        Most would like to see the gheto’s cleaned up so I do not think that observation is fair. The getto’s will never change with the rampant use of drugs there.
        John Adams also cared along with others. “Our society is not held together just by law and its enforcement, but most importantly by voluntary obedience to the unenforceable and by widespread adherence to unwritten norms of right or righteous behavior. Religious belief in right and wrong is a vital influence to advocate and persuade such voluntary compliance by a large proportion of our citizens.1 Others, of course, have a moral compass not expressly grounded in religion. John Adams relied on all of these when he wisely observed that

        “we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”2

      • Ozlanthos

        You are right that the anti-marijuana legislation was billed as an effort to stem crimes by blacks and hispanics on white people. However, the true reasons for the illegalization of cannabis had nothing to do with race, or even that you could get high by smoking it. The true reasons had more to do with eliminating hemp as a competing textile to oil, wood, and cotton (as well as certain pharmaceuticals). It is my feeling that the uber-relevant reason for illegalizing cannabis had EVERYTHING to do with prohibiting the masses from being suppliers in our supply and demand based economy. It had to do with consolidating power to minute elite. Look around you with that mindset. You’ll see that since the prohibition of hemp/cannabis, this country has gone from one boom bust cycle to another, each resulting in less market stability, and more regulation on personal freedom and liberty.

        Considering that funds from illicit sales of cannabis fuel almost all Mexican drug cartel activities (DEA says about 60 to 70% of all of the cartel’s money comes from cannabis sales)I would much rather roll the dice on out-right legalization of all drugs than continue to fund them!!!

        -Oz

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Oz,
        The Rand study just released says the figure is more likely 15 to 28% of their drug money comes from cannabis!

      • Papa

        The war on drugs has been a total failure, from beginning to end, and anyone who carefully considered what was being proposed should have recognized, in advance, that such a failure was a sure and certain outcome. That makes me wonder if our current situation isn’t what some group of those in high places were counting on from the outset.

        Hemp was attacked by the “Cotton Kings” because the plant can be used to make better cloth (stronger, longer lasting) and rope than cotton. Cannabis was the red herring or “Bogey Man” used to confuse the issue and gain support from ordinary people. The truth is, hemp is a weed which can be grown almost anywhere, without the careful cultivation and nurturing cotton requires. Cannabis use, as smoking material was very rare among even our Spanish population of the time, but most people weren’t aware of that so the “lie” was never challenged. The Cotton Kings won easily, and the growing of hemp was outlawed. That was our first mistake.

        Growing up in South Texas in the 40′s and 50′s I heard of “marijuana” but didn’t know anyone who ever smoked it. The first people I ever met who used it at all were the “Beautiful People” in California, in the 1960′s. For those here who don’t remember, that group was on the decline by the end of the 60′s, then Richard Nixon started his “War on Drugs.” Bad idea, with bad results since it only served to advertise a lifestyle most people knew little or nothing about at that point, and shunned when they came in contact with it.

      • Papa

        For the first 150 years of our Republic, Heroin, Morphine and Cocaine could be bought at the grocery store. They were used routinely as medicine and very few people became addicts. Those few who did were called “Drug Addicts” and the stigma which attached made them outcasts from society, serving as a strong deterrent for everyone else. A problem for some, here and there, to be sure, but not one which touched the average family.

        Then came the War on Drugs. The quickest way I know to get kids to try something is to tell them they CAN’T! Tell them where they can’t swim, and watch them sneak off, first chance they get to that very spot on the river or lake. Tell them they can’t drink alcohol, and watch them turn themselves inside out to get their hands on some sort of booze, just to find out what all the mystery is about. We should have learned in the 1930′s, but obviously we didn’t, that PROHIBITION of anything is a really bad idea! All it does is make people curious enough to TRY what they otherwise might never have considered. That’s not some brilliant insight, just basic human psychology, and everyone who ever studied the subject at all knows that.

        We need to STOP this insane idea of telling other people what they can and cannot do with their OWN BODY. ALL laws of this nature are BAD LAWS and we need to put an end to all of them, throughout the USA. Our federal government has NO AUTHORITY to create such laws in the first place…

      • Ellen

        The number of men, women, and children maimed and killed by LEGAL pharmaceutical drugs in this country is staggering and yet no one even blinks an eye at THAT. Let’s stop being hypocritical about drugs here. BigPharm is even subsidized with our stolen tax dollars.

        Our troops are being used in the illegal aggressions overseas to protect crops that are shipped here and end up on our streets. The only “war on drugs” is that which is being waged against the American people on every front. Wake up and smell the damned coffee.

      • meteorlady

        Ah someone else who believe that big PHARMA is using us as a laboratory. I know that each time they release a new drug they build in the cost of law suits. That should tell you exactly what they are doing.

        My husband had high blood pressure and cholesterol. He is taking Red Yeast Rice and it’s gotten it down. Seems that this legal health food store compound is as good as Lipator – it even has some of the same side affects. So why aren’t they prescribing that instead – about 1/100th the cost of Lipator and less harmful.

      • Kate8

        Ellen and meteorlady – I’m with you on this. The legal drugs are almost worse, because they reach people who otherwise wouldn’t mess with drugs.

        BTW – eating 4 stalks of celery a day will lower BP. Celery is the basis for some of the BP meds!

        The war on drugs is a joke. I’d like to know just where this “war” is happening. Politicians talk out of both sides of their mouths (gasp), because they have been taking pay-offs from illegal drug trafficking for decades, enriching themselves and financing many covert operations.

        If they were serious they’d have controlled our borders.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Kate8:

        Well put.

        “because they have been taking pay-offs from illegal drug trafficking for decades, enriching themselves and financing many covert operations”. Think dick-for-brains. It was reported that he was flying coke and weed into secluded air strips in Arkansas.

        “If they were serious they’d have controlled our borders”. Absolutely! The fact that they DO NOT speaks volumes!

        Shoot everything coming north.

      • karolyn

        Old Henry – A lot of drugs come in across the Atlantic and Pacific also.

      • Kinetic1

        Old Henry,
        “It was reported..” Just where was it “reported”? There have been stories about the government bringing drugs into the inner cities to keep the minorities down, and stories about Reagan flying cocaine into the states to help fund the contras. There are always stories, but what is the truth? The truth is that even if we “sealed” our borders, drugs would find a way in. The money that one stands to make from selling illegal drugs is just too much of a draw.

        I don’t like drugs or alcohol or tobacco. I can’t tell you why, but I’ve never been curious about any of them, and I don’t see the temptation. If I had it my way, they wouldn’t be around, but they are. The one thing I do know is that history shows us that criminalizing them only creates more trouble. When these things are legal, then we can regulate their sale. Sure, there will always be those who choose to sell to kids or make their own, but the profit is so small that it discourages any large scale operations.

        As for President Obama’s stand, as with so many other issues he, like most politicians is afraid of the reaction he will face from the “moral” members of our society. Like the temperance movement of the last century, today’s “moral majority” believes that their will and their religion will save us all if we just do as they say. It only served to bring us the likes of Al Capone back then, so why should we expect anything different now?

      • Bruce

        I was taking the max dose of actos 45mg and 30 uints of insulin and weighted 270 lbs. I got of being tired and sick all the time. So I took it on myself and lost 85 lbs and now i am only taking 10 units of insulin.

      • meteorlady

        So because parents don’t supervise their children, we as American’s should spend BILLIONS to do the parents job?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        That iis what good libdrals do. Spend everybody elses money taking care of everybody elses business.

      • Kinetic1

        Old Henry
        Yes, because only Liberal parents have drug problems. I mean, when do you EVER hear about children of wealthy, religious, conservative families falling into drugs?

      • Robert Smith

        Bakker’s kid was one of them.

        BTW, when Tammy died they found Jimmy Hoffa burried in her makeup.

        Rob

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        It si time that we as a nation and a society stop coddling these drug dealing vermin and beging executing them at the end of a rope. This scum is costing us millions of dollars each year in the legal system, penal system and the ancillary costs related to the devistation they cause among our children.

        Shoot to kill anything coming forth over the border.

      • barbm

        well, you’re just an old fuddy duddy then. i was born in 1948, went to college in the 70s, discovered drugs. loved pot!! best thing i ever had for nausea from flu or hangover. :) i really kind of let loose after 27 years of being on the straight and narrow either under daddy’s or hubby’s thumb. being that old when i started smoking, i had enough sense to know you can’t do that and work or study. it’s not that pot is bad, it’s that it’s bad for kids who don’t have any sense at all. i used a lot of drugs back then. i mostly wanted to just try them once to see what all the fuss was about. why? because i’d heard for years that pot makes you crazy, you do crazy things while high, it leads to the use of harder drugs, it fries your brain, ad infinitum. i tried pot and, guess what, all that crap was lies. so itried some others. i wasn’t impressed with any of them except speed. if it wasn’t so hard on the body, mind, and family, i could be a speed freak. but, again, i was an adult with better sense than that. and, because i was an adult, i had seen enough junkies to know that heroin wasn’t good for even a one time try. my point is that we must get drugs off the streets so our kids can’t use them until they’re old enough to handle them. adults should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as they don’t hurt anybody. and pot is WAAAAAY better than alcohol for adults and children.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Barvm:

        I have always heard that jumping off a ten story building was bad for you, but I never wanted to try to prove them wrong. I had better sense.

        Sounds to me like you never were an “adult”, and most likely never will be.

        Your type are what Clive is referring to about our generation.

        If you, or anyone, want to do those things “as long as they don’t hurt anyone else” that’s fine. However, do not come begging us for help with your health, life, finances, etc.

        As your “daddy” probably would have told you: “You made your bed. Now sleep in it.”

      • barbm

        i’m retired, own my own paid-off home, have a pretty new car, have money in the bank, have excellent credit, have plenty of friends. i also have a nice bed with a pillow-top mattress to lie in any time i want. that’s a reference to that retired part. there’s nothing wrong with our generation that a bit of liberty wouldn’t help. name calling and rudeness will get you no respect on here. i’m as entitled to my opinion as you are.

      • eddie47d

        barbm; Thanks for your honesty and few are willing to share their stories because of the old Henry’s. We can’t help addicted users because they are always hiding the fact that they are addicted. They end up beyond help and a greater burden to families and society. Drugs, tobacco and alcohol shouldn’t be glamorized but neither should they be outlawed. The same with legal drugs such as pain pills and such, yet they are glamorized on TV.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Barbm:

        Is it lie in, or lay in? I have never been able to keep that one straight. It drove my English teachers nuts.

        Sounds like your “daddy’s thumb” had some effect in spite of his daughter.

        No one said you do not have a right to your opinion. What I said was that you (that being the calcatrant boomers in a general sense) should not expect society to “balil you out” after you discovered the lifetime of “Summer of Love” blew up.

      • barbm

        it’s lie in. from the internet – Lie is to recline. Lay is to put or place, and the verb is always followed by an object. One easy way to remember is, you lie in the sun and a chicken lays an egg. Where it gets tricky is in the past and past participle (the form of have) tenses.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        barbm,
        here’s one for you from memory. Am is are, was were, be been, have has had, do does did, can could, shall should, will would, may might must. I remember those from when a public education was worth something! BTW, I’m 60 years old. those were drummed into me in grade school!!

      • karolyn

        Your story goes to show how everybody is different. My story was one of graduating up the ladder to addiction in my 20s, but that doesn’t happen to everyone. I ended up on plain old alcohol because it was the cheapest and legal. Haven’t had a drink in 30 years. I’ve talked to many people who could do a drug once and never do it again. I’ve also known people who would not drink or use drugs because of family history of addiction. We are all unique. One size does not fit all, which is the case in the medical community.

      • Bruce D.

        Drug users end up on Medicaid sooner or later. Just because the drugs they are taking are not illegal does not mean they are not addicted.

      • karolyn

        Maxi – the reason drug use is more prevalent now is that there are more people, plain and simple. Man has used drugs since the caveman decided to try and eat that leaf over there and it made him feel good. The Mayans are known to have injected concoctions anally to get high. Of course, these were spiritual ceremonies; but let’s face it, getting high is getting high. Addiction and recreational drug use will never be wiped out. It’s about time we faced that fact. If the money ued on the drug war were used on education and rehabilitation, it would probably make a dent in drug usage; but it will never disappear. Let people do what they want and let the chips fall where they may. If drugs were legalized, there would be no drug cartels; poor coca, opium and marijuana farmers would be able to live better. The market would be competitive and could be regulated as to quality and safety. The government could receive income from taxes like those placed on alcohol. You do see how well prohibition worked on alcohol consumption don’t you? Ahy differentiate alcohol and tobacco from other “illicit” drugs?

    • Lewis Munn

      When drug control is given to people who oppose it, and often use the drugs to be controlled, it will fail.

      Those who have studied see that Prohibition failed for this reason; the enforcement was given to people who did not enforce.

      However, at the lower levels, crime was reduced, people had more money for useful things, such as education, and alcohol-related diseases were reduced.

      But, like now, those who profit from drugs were very active, publicized the problems with enforcement and the virtues of using, and the law was overthrown. And we got folks even in high places like George Bush, who were damaged by alcohol!! And slaughter on the highways of millions of innocents by drunk drivers. Law enforcement costs are higher, too, trying to keep drunks from endangering the rest of us.

      And who among you has counted the costs in people killed and property damaged or destroyed due to people drinking alcohol and behaving foolishly?

      Same is true with other drugs that are used for recreation; society faces a loss.

      Look at the truth, not at the claims by those who profit from lying and encouraging drug abuse, or drugged up users.

      • http://centurylink motorhome

        george w bush drunk /druig addict but his daddy was president and it was ok 4 him 2 be coke head how many companys did he bankrupt and u dumb asssssss put him n office and reelected him slap ur bible and vote some more of this rify raf n u got jon ensign im a christian republican mark sanders im a christian republican jon boeher im republican christian u people r stupid u pick the sorryest poorest choicesan dbelieve there lies ull get what u deserve take part n ur country vote them all out of office and if it collapeses because there r no senior thieves left so be it?????where did cheney get the money 2 give the taliban 4 pipeline thru afganistan keep sukn his left nut/no bid contracts bribeing foigen officials 4 contracts 4 haliburton movn trial 4 rippn investors off n oil gas royalty payments 2 his home town be4 a judge thats as big a criminal as his and u got nerve 2 talk about ecuadore bringing suit against chevron 4 ruining there ecology texaco chevron thought they could cover it up by selling one co 2 another they got caught no different than war on drugs ???? motohome

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Quite a rant. Are you texting, or typing?

        Ant the other choices were?? Albore who could not even carry his own state of TN? Which if he had, he would have won the elction outright.

        John effin Kerry? The pompous guy who made his money the old fasioned way. He married it. Oh, he did serve in Vietnam and Cambodia in 1968 under Nixon.

        If you had not mentioned Chaney I would have thought you were talking about dick-for-brains who sold us out to the communist Chinese in the 90s by selling them secret technology. Do you really think they developed their stealth bomber on their own?

        Most of the 20th Centry presidents were losers. You did, howwever, nail it when you suggested throwing ALL of them out.

        Keep Ron Paul and Rand.

      • kilrntex

        Are you kidding me? This person is a product of the liberal agenda and went to a liberal school! What part of stupid inbred idiot does he represent. I can hardly wait for the day we are turned loose on these people. I thought the illegals were the biggest problem. Hell no, it’s the braindead liberal, satan worshipping scum like this that makes me buy 5000 rds of ammo for the day when they come knocking at my door for handouts. I’ll give the demon possessed pieces of crap a free sample of my hardware. Go back to the hell you came from. You represent Satan and I represent the living GOD. The prince of darkness has you, the liberals, Muslims, Chicoms, drug cartels, democraps and all other enemies of Christians and Jews believing that you will win the coming war. If Satan had a chance he would have already taken it. Wake up robots and see where you are headed!

      • mark

        If you are truly saved by the blood of Jesus, you would not have so much hate in you.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Mark:

        It is not hate. It is fed up frustration. Fed up with the socialist / communist, ah but I repeat myself, that have been allowed to infiltrate our American society and decay it so.

        Liberalism is a form of mental illness.

      • karolyn

        Old Henry, kilrntex sounds more mentally ill than any liberal I ever heard!

      • eddie47d

        old Henry; You come across like the mental illness you blame liberals of . You must have been born in the 19th Century since you hated the 20th Century.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Karolyn:

        Kilr is not PC and in today’s AmeriKa over-run by that sort of ridiculous thought process he comes off as “not right” when in fact he is more right than probably 75% of our population.

        He simply says what needs to be said. Maybe he is not as eloquent as some, but he gets the point across.

        How about that mentally ill far left liberal shooter down in Tucon?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        eddie, eddie, eddie:

        Do you really read what is actually written, or just skim it and make up what you think it said?

        If you logically look at the 20th Century presidents there are indeed very few (I did not say all) that are worthwhile. Most were not statesmen, simply self-engrandising politicians working to fill their pockets, the pockets of their cronies and advance the one-world ideal and steal our liberties.

      • Ellen

        Motorhome, do you realize Obama was a major illegal drug user and happily wrote all about it in his books? So much for Clinton saying he tried pot but didn’t inhale. Obama writes a book and brags about his illegal usage and people elect him president.

      • karolyn

        So friggin’ what????? Ms. holier-than-thou!

      • libertytrain

        Golly gee Karolyn.

      • eddie47d

        Ellen; People want a President who is honest and we can accept those minor faults. There are bigger issues to be concerned about than Clinton’s blow job or Obama’s drug use or Bush’s cocaine usuage. Those issues do go to character and can help in making up one’s mind at the voting booth. Yet shouldn’t be the only reason you vote for or against someone.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Ellen:

        I also read, cannot recall where, that he was a dealer as well.

      • karolyn

        You know, liberty, if there’s one thing that boils my blood, it’s people who think they know what they’re talking about when they don’t! I could care less if George Bush was a drunk, Clinton smoked pot or Obama did whatever he did. That does not make them any less a human being than anybody else and does not make the person calling the kettle black any better either, though they might think they are.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Whoa Karolyn!

        Did you miss Der Fuhrer’s memo about being civil in our discourse?

        By watcing him I personally think he is still using illegal drugs. Pay close attention to him Karolyn.

      • Bruce D.

        Not everyone is forced to buy illegal drugs. Ask Karolyn about that. She will know.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        motorhome,
        And your obvious hero Noblama used to snort cocaine!! He admits getting high in his first book! The people that knew him during those years also say he sold as well! What’s your point???

    • Dead Zero

      Ditto…The War on Drugs has caused the Battlefield in Mexico and our Tyrantical Govt. wants to bring us the addition of a war on guns. It is the Government that can’t be trusted with guns not the people.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Wow Dead!

        That last sentance was profound. May I put it on a tee shirt?

      • Ozlanthos

        You print it and I will proudly wear it!!!
        -Oz

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Dead Zero,
        did you hear Noblamas speech on Libya today??? He said something he has not said before that has me worried. he said he was leaving all OPTIONS open!! Is he dumb enough to get us involved in another war??? He doesn’t say a damn thing about the murder of those American citizens by the pirates, but libya is so important that he has to leave all options open!!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        JoeH:

        I think what has Der Fuhrer a little nervous is that his bretheren were killed by one of their own. Can’t have that.

        The Americans were murdered by some of his bretheren.In Obama’s eyes those people had a few strikes against them to begin with. 1.They were Christians. 2. They had been prosthletising (sp?) among his bretheren. 3. They were arogant Americans and needed to be make an example of.

    • Les

      “The government is not the solution to the problem, the government is the problem”, the most sweeping and encompassing Reagan quote. The answer to most of our nation’s problems is self-determination via true Liberty. When you follow the history of drugs in America you will find that the problem increased along with the government. The first law outright prohibiting the use of a specific drug in the United States was a San Francisco ordinance which banned the smoking of opium in opium dens in 1875, thus moving the Dens to the outskirts of town; if folks wanted to stick a needle in their arm and die, just don’t bother anyone. Then there was prohibition, that worked out great, so we repealed the 18th Amendment. After the experiment in drug controls, the government began the complete take over of the drug business and now enforces this control via their agents in the ATF, FDA and AMA. It is better to get your drugs in the clinic than on the corner.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Less:

        The liberals ran San Fran way back in 1875?! Wholy cow! We have a more entrenched problem than I thought!

        I wonder if Nazy Pelosi was on the city council back then?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Old Henry,
        she sure looks old enough!!! She looks like a skeleton with plastic STREATCHED over it!!!

    • WayneT

      We could also win the war on rape, assaults, and all sorts of other crimes if we would only make it legal. Barbara, how could you make such a stupid statement. Instead of making the war on drugs more serious, we have made it more lucative for the criminal. Maybe if we would execute the pushers of these drugs, or give them 10 years to life in prison, we would have less drug pushers, and less users.

      • Ellen1

        Don’t forget about the pushers in the medical mafia. Shall we execute them as well? They are pushing drugs to everyone for their owners, the pharmaceutical cartels. THEY kill and maim many more than the illegal drugs do. Under the medical mafia, foster children are drugged out of their minds because people don’t want to bother with these “throw-away” children.

        Let’s see things as they really are.

    • Void1972

      The bottom line is drugs are big money, and the sooner you educate yourself on who really controls the drug trade, the sooner you will realize that our “war on drugs” is total bullshit!
      Read about the opium war in 1860, and the English and French bankers who supported it. These are the real drug cartels!

    • Always Right

      she says, as she lays out a line of fine white powder and picsk up her short straw..

    • Aix Sponsa

      Legalize everything. Yeeeeeesss…. That worked for booze, didn’t it?

      The only was to stop the border mess is to install machine gun guard towers every 1/4 mile the entire length. Have a 1/2 mile wide no-mans-land between the border and the towers. First year cost to install and man, 10 billion. Thereafter, 4 billion. Profile, deport illegals. That saves 100 billion every year on illegals. Twice what O says he can save. Drug runners. Armed guards on the roads.

      This is either going to be a 3rd world country or not. It’s almost too late.

    • Robert Smith

      From the article: “I don’t pretend to suggest how we wage and win the War on Drugs, only that we must.”

      Why? Most drugs were legal until 1900. Yes, there were addicts but there wasn’t a problem with them in society.

      For the right to claim they don’t want a “nanny” state why do they advocate for prison for people who use drugs?

      Rob

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