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Another Bush

February 9, 2011 by  

Another Bush

The campaign to select the Republican to challenge Barack Obama in the 2012 Presidential election is underway and it seems the Republican brain trust has selected its challenger: Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

The neoconservative rag National Review — the champion of liberal Republican RINOs like John McCain and Mike Castle and mouthpiece for the Republican establishment — is touting Jeb’s credentials in its cover story this week, and on Monday, Editor Rich Lowry posted on National Review Online eight reasons Jeb should run in 2012 rather than 2016. His reasons: The GOP field is wide open, 2016 will be too late (twice), brother George W.’s legacy  is being rehabilitated, Jeb will always be a Bush, he’s not just another Bush, he can unite the party and waiting is a mistake (see Mario Cuomo).

I can think of as many reasons why another Bush would be bad for the country. But for the sake of brevity, I’ll mention just one: Perpetual war.

In January 1991, President George H.W. Bush launched a war in the Middle East that continues more than 20 years later. Started under the pretext of freeing Kuwait from a dictator — Iraq’s Saddam Hussein — the war was fought to ensure the free flow of oil to America from Bush the elder’s bosom buddies, Saudi King Fahd and his family.

While Kuwait is a free country compared to most in the Middle East, it is ruled by a king whose family has overseen the country since 1752. A monarchy is not a free country, so Bush traded one dictator for another he liked better.

After Hussein capitulated and retreated back into Iraq, American military bases established throughout the region remained. The American military presence in Saudi Arabia is one of the reasons cited by Osama bin Laden for launching the 9/11 attacks on America.

Throughout the remainder of Bush the elder’s term, and then all the way through Bill Clinton’s, America remained at war with Iraq. United States fighter jets patrolled the skies, the occasional Tomahawk missile was launched and American troops and materiel remained in place — ostensibly to keep Hussein in check.

Then came George W. Bush. After 9/11, Bush received carte blanche from Congress to make war where he pleased. And it pleased him to do what his father had not: Remove Hussein — a product of CIA meddling in the Middle East in the 1980s as a foil to Iran — from power.

Now Barack Obama continues the fight in the Middle East, and despite his tall talk that he believes all people should be free and should settle their own affairs, the fact remains that he continues to meddle in the internal affairs of the region and favored the Iranian regime over the Iranian people in their protests in 2009 and favors 30-year dictator Hosni Mubarak over the Egyptian people now.

If we have another Bush at the helm, guided by the war-happy neoconservative wing of the GOP, you can be assured the perpetual war will continue. The country cannot afford another Bush.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://at&t paul

    I will never vote for a bush again never.he was gov in fla and all we have to show for him is the f cat he put in place and were still trying to get rid of it. plus he loves illegals as his wife was one.hes not much different obama.

    • letitsnow1

      we need someone that loves AMERICA not hate it, if the fools ever pic obama again it will truly be the end of AMERICA, the they deserve what they get, which will be a fast trip straight to he–.

  • Deep River Rat

    “Read My Lips,No More Bush”. We need change like Herman Cain or Michelle Bachman.

  • dan

    …I voted for Regan (RIP) DESPITE Bush as VP….sigh

    is perpetual war just the body politic’s version of a jobs program ?

    How about Anne Coulter/Palin and Bachman for a tri-feckta :)

  • Mark Matis

    Jeb!?

    HELL NO!!!

    • Toomuchsense

      Jeb is a rino, with a small r. He has some conservative credentials. But if you rate the really big issues, that concerns conservatives in the party. His grade on the score card goes down. While each individual should be judged, individually. There is a recognizable pattern within the Bush family. To say that JEB, whom I supported for governor, would be essential different than his family’s history, is just gambling. At one time, many of us conservatives would take a dose of cod liver oil, while pitching our nose……and vote for those Rino’s and moderates in the party. No more. 2006 was a wake up call. 2008 was a thump on the head. The Republican Party will no longer be a party of recking, if they lie or ignore those that make the party, a party of integrity and strength.

  • http://treetown@bis.midco.net Harold

    As a life long republican I can tell you that selecting another Bush to run for president would almost ensure that Obama wins in 2012. I will never and I repeat never vote for another Bush. And if I as a republican won’t vote for them, who else will? Republicans have you no brains?

    • Toomuchsense

      Agree!!!

    • Cawmun Cents

      If you do not like Otrauma,and you cannot find someone that is worth a spit to run against him,you will wind up with Otrauma 2.0.Then my friends you will have had sexual intercourse with yourselves.

      • Sam

        If you think any republican would be worse than Obama you are ready for the funny farm!

  • dan

    Thanks Bob…provocative as usual.National Review/CIA Today knows best.
    Is there really a difference between the Bush Dynasty and the Kennedy…
    and LOL at the Neo-rag ref…Bill Buckley would have had a chuckle(cut
    my teeth on Firing Line…can we even say that after Az.)Perhaps the pretender in chief will just change parties and run with McCain as co prez….who needs a Bush for perpetual war.

  • Jack

    If Jeb Bush is the Republican nominee, that leaves me no choice. I won’t vote for another Bush and I won’t vote Democrat. Guess I will leave the President portion of the ballot blank.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virginia

      A NO VOTE IS A VOTE FOR OBUMMER!

  • J.M.R.

    whats wrong with a palin/bachman ticket

    • bob wire

      Nothing ! go for it!

    • Cawmun Cents

      What you have there is the republican version of Billary…..nuff said!

    • marvin

      J.M.R.
      i 2nd that motion for P AND B and that an,t peanut butter, you know mabe it time we tryed a woman as president hell i don,t thank a woman would do as much harm as el cid obama has done so far, but the vote is still a long ways off and i will not vote for obama

      • Cawmun Cents

        Not that I fear a woman in the presidency marvin,but what seems amusing to me is that the women of the Republican party are regarded more highly than the men.They have more brass tacks,more testicular fortitude,and inspire more people.That says something about our nation.Men have been pushed back,until they are regarded as an object of contempt rather than innovators of the republic.That i,I fear the message that will be brought to bear,should you run this particular ticket.That is also why it would lead to O’gypya 2.0.

      • Pat R

        I support Palin 100%. What bothers me is “What will happen after being elected and the Al Quaeda/Israeli shadow government tells them to do as they are told to do; or else”!

      • Pink Rose

        Pat R—–Palin would make a great President!!! No one would push her around or tell her what to do. You said “What will happen after being elected and the Al Quaeda/Israeli shadow government tells them to do as they are told to do; or else”! I believe Palin would tell them to take a flying leap, and if they didn’t, she would put a well placed high heel right to their booty. Mama Grizzlies don’t take anything off of anyone, and she would protect the U.S. just like a Mama Grizzly protects her cubs. I think Palin/Gingrich or Gingrich/Palin would be a great ticket. I also like Ron Paul so he would be great on the ticket also.

        Most of the posts on here seem to do a lot of Bush bashing. History will prove you to be wrong. It is Socialist Premier Obama who is the problem, not any of the Bushes. Before Bush, Clinton was worthless and a pot smoking DRAFT DODGER. It is still hard to believe he was elected. Now there is a pot smoking Dictator in the White House, who is not eligible to be there. He should have already been impeached and tried for his crimes against this country.

        Come into the present and bash the one who deserves it, BHO. Stop the Bush bashing or you will be eating your own words in a few years. Most of you are imitating Obama by blaming everything on GWB. Wake up and smell the coffee or get an IQ.

      • The Mariel Martin

        I campaigned hard for GW both times but he lost me about two years into the second term when he disclaimed knowledge of what his Secretary of Commerce was trying to do in uniting Canada, Mexico and the United States into the so-called security,prosperity partnership. When I found the actual minutes of the meetings (at spp.gov) that GW had laughed off and realized the huge impact of the proposal–being undertaken without EVER bringing it up before Congress–I was very disillusioned with Bush. I also heard rumors that he had a large ranch in Paraguay–finally discovered three articles about it in La Prensa with a picture of daughter Jenna visiting there. The images of Bush senior with the Saudi sheikhs was also unsettling–he was obviously so thrilled to be in their company!! I would never vote for another Bush. Jeb is another one who will do nothing about illegal immigration.

        While I admire Sarah Palin’s forthrightness and her charisma, she can never be elected; she is best as an inspiration from the sidelines. She could not handle the heat of simply running for vice president and was “forced” to resign as Governor of Alaska–a fatal decision; she will never overcome that. When the going got tough, Sarah got out.

        Duncan Hunter is gutsy and how about Michelle Bachman as his running mate? I could go for that. Just remember, the media decided the last election–did not vet Obama at all and always had a negative comment on Romney–the most balanced candidate to my way of thinking. (And to think lots of people voted against Romney because he was (gasp) a MORMON!! Now we have a president who disclaims our Christian heritage and is a Muslim sympathizer!!

        Obama is strictly for the NWO–as a congressman from Illinois he proposed a bill to give 4% of our GNP to the United Nations (passed the House unanimously). If he doesn’t get a second term look for him to head up the United Nations. Meanwhile, do everything you can to act locally–if we cannot control our own economy and banking system, what chance would we have with a global system and all the tricksters worldwide applying their own special schemes to the situation??

  • Bert Cundle

    WE CAN’T RECOVER FROM THE DAMMAGE, THAT JEBS DAD & BROTHER, HAS DONE, INTIME TO HAVE HIM COMPLETELY FINISH THIS COUNTRY OFF!
    JEB BUSH? NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO. NOT IN MY COUNTRY… HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXECUTED WITH HIS DAD & GEORGE, AFTER THE BALLET STUFFING & CORRUPT JUDGE RULEING!!!!

    • JUKEBOX

      How did BALLET get in this discusion? He must be referring to Ron Reagan.

      • Average Joe

        I don’t know about that. I personally think all of the Bush boys would look great in TuTu’s.

      • Bert Cundle

        Ballot… ( oops.)

    • Toomuchsense

      Bert, go take a nap. You’re an embarrassment to yourself.

    • http://naver sook young

      Have we forgotten to take our meds today? If you think that President Bush hurt this country, then what do you think Obama is doing to us now? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • Bert Cundle

        Oboma has Extorted $ From the Citizens to pay his campain debts!!!
        BUSH: IS A MASS MURDERER…Much of the Blood Spilled & Lives gone For Bushes War. We Gained NOTHING – NOT EVEN RETRUBUTION!
        Terrorest As Called Can Claim the Victory over Twin Towers — Untill They are REBUILT!!!

    • marvin

      Bert Cundle
      are you living under a rock odumbo has done more harm spent more money then any pres in history, will mabe peanut carter would stand out as 2nd place or really close to el cid obama,

      • Pat R

        Obama is just following orders, just like Bush, clinton and others have done. GHWB is the #1 terrorist!

    • Dr. Mabuse

      I believe Bert is referring to the negation of some of the qualified voters by the machinations of Jeb and Sweet Polly Purebread (Kathleen Harris). Perhaps the judge he alludes to is Jersey boy Antonin Scalia,
      As far as executions go, perhaps that just a little draconinan. Maybe we should just throw the lot of them in a deep dark hole and forget about them.

      • Bert Cundle

        The Judge that Declared George Pres. beacuse of a DEAD HEAT. ( All down to Flo. Voters. … That came to a tie. )

  • MMCMSSRet

    I have hold the Bush family in high regard. I think Jeb would make a good President, but now is not his time. Get away from the building royal families and find a qualified conservative leader. The job is not about parties, it is about America! But, I will vote for anyone other than Obama.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      “The job is not about parties, it is about America! But, I will vote for anyone other than Obama.”

      T elites Know that, and they BANK on it! Thats why whom ever the oposition is in the republican side will surely continue the SAME policies and destruction of America!

  • Tazio2013

    BHO will be assured of a 2nd term. Maybe Palin/Bush is the winning ticket?

    • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

      haha…Palin/Bush might be the winning ticket in what?

      A dog and pony show (respectively)…or a cage match…?

  • Pamela

    I just want to let you know that I do NOT think Jeb Bush is a good selection for President. I am an Independent and really think there are better choices. I like Bachman…. Christi… DeMint…. Palin… to name a few.

    • kate8

      Pamela – Yes, yes, yes and yes!

  • BABUSHSKA

    Going to war to protect U.S. oil interests is valid. Without oil, this
    country’s economy will collapse. Going to war to help usher in democracy in another country is not valid, in my opinion. Regardless,
    Jeb Bush could never win. If the Repubs get behind him, the party is doomed, with the end result being four more destructive years of Obama. America won’t be recognizable as our shadow government continues to take every freedom we’ve known away. Let’s talk Newt, or Romney — both common sense, astute leaders who cherish the principals this country was founded on.

    Sidewinder — you should write your own blog….you are a wordsmith.

    • Sidewinder

      Thank you.

      I agree, let them learn the value of liberty, by paying for it with their own blood. Only then, will they appreciate it.

      • JUKEBOX

        That must be why Obama is so ineffective, he would never sacrifice for our country with his own blood. He would only talk about it.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virginia

      NOT Romney! In case you don’t know Romney was responsible for the trial run of the Obamacare in his state that was a failure. HE IS A RHINO.

    • ValDM

      ANYONE but Mitt. Have you taken a look at what he’s done with his healthcare bill in Mass.? One look at that debacle should steer you away from that man forever.

  • FlaJim

    Enough is enough. We were told when W ran that he was the ‘true’ conservative in the family. Now they’re trying to sell us the same crock of crap about JEB. He’s just another near-RINO.

    We’re all tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. It’s time we got someone we can really rally behind.

  • Wild Bill

    Let’s see a Bachman & Paul ticket!

  • Ron

    Although I think George Bush did justice to the office of President—I hope that his brother does not run….Many people do not like the Bush family and Jeb’s stand on making the illegal’s legaal without them going through the Visa process like all legal immigrants have to do will turn many more against him, including myself. Sarah Palin is a REAL PATRIOT and someone that those of us who want positive change can get behind

  • Victoria DeLacy

    It is not reasonable to blame the Bushes for a war that was started by Islamic extremists on 9/11/01 when they flew our own planes into American buildings in acts of terrorism. George W. Bush came out of that traumatic event having led us into becoming a stronger and more united America. Jeb Bush would surely stand for a strong national defense just as much, something which is needed in an age when we are continually threatened by a nuclear arming Iran and Korea. As a disabled American, I deeply appreciated the job Jeb Bush did as governor of Florida in attempting to save the life of Terri Schiavo, whose life ended in unfortunate tragedy as her husband was ultimately permitted by higher courts to have her starved/dehydrated to death, the ultimate spousal abuse. Jeb Bush would at least work to restore respect for the sanctity of human life, something which is really needed in the nation today. It is too bad that Congressman Mike Pence bowed out of the Presidential race for the time being, since he is another life-respecting patriot I could have supported. Who do we have left along those lines for the Republican ticket next year? It will be interesting to see who gets through the primary, and it had better NOT be a McCain brand RINO!

    • Sidewinder

      I believe the threat was exaggerated.
      Our bombing raids, and dropping BLU-82′s did most of the cleanup 10 years ago.

      We are not stronger. We are weaker, the spending has destroyed our currency value, and the laws that followed destroyed out liberties. The Bush Administration damaged America in ways “Bin Laden” could never have.

      Have we forgotten how the Soviet Union fell?
      They fell because in a knee jerk response to Reagan’s arms build up, they spent way beyond their means. Then they collapsed.

      How in the world can we remain strong on defense if we are bankrupt?
      That inconvenient fact is staring us all in the face, now more than ever. A 10 year war on 2 fronts, one of them in a country that had ZERO to do with 911, has just about bankrupted us. Add to that massive job losses to overseas labor markets, a massively expanded federal government, and you have a formula for bankruptcy.

      Jeb can run for Mayor of Miami, but I think he should stay out of Washington.

      We need new thinking in DC.

      • Cawmun Cents

        The problem with dropping bombs is that if you drop them on the wrong people,eventually it will come back on you.We bombed the wrong nations,and the ones we should have bombed are behind the “threat” to us now.We have busied ourselves snipping rattles off of the snake but we refuse to cut off its head.This has been the problem from the beginning.We have sided with the wrong powers,and motivated a fanatical religion to see us dead.That being said,we still hold the hammer and refuse to swing it as well.This will be the death knoll of our nation.To have the power but refuse to use it in the guise of moral decency,when you ally with dictators,is suicide.Time to come out of your [offensive word removed] hole America and get with the program.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Yes remove everything that the few will not tolerate.I used the word for a womans lady parts because it was specific.No other word can convey the image that it brings.But it is the exact image that needs to be in the minds of those that are trying to fix this torn republic.We dont need the thought police making it politically correct for us.If someone is offended at that word then they ought to think of its implications regarding the subject of our nations current situation.It is the problem.That is the only word that can be used to communicate that perticular problem with our nation.like it or not…

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Cawmun Cents,

        There are many other words that can be used to communicate your message if you’ll just choose to exercise–or expand–your vocabulary. The use of vulgarities is the sign of either a limited vocabulary or a small mind. And if you begin to tax the moderator by using vulgarities too often, you will be banned.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • DaveH

        How about wimp, Cawmun?
        We have gone from a nation of rugged pioneers to a nation of wimps in just 2 1/2 centuries.

      • libertytrain

        DaveH – wimps that have little or no vocabulary skills.

    • Bert Cundle

      Your display is that of some knoledge; None of wisdom! If the Twin Towers, was attacked by Muslems… They had 2 Reasons of Defense! { DESERT STORM + Christian Extreamest} Mistroed By Bush Family for the Crowning of George! as a Forcefull world ruller, “UNDER REDERICK!”

      • Toomuchsense

        Hey Bert. I see your off your med’s.

    • AMJ

      That’s the reason we have the Patriot Act today. Does it protect us from terrorism? No, it opened the door for government intrusion into the personal lives of its citizens. Both prior Bush presidents have herded this country into debt unconcieved of before. We don’t need another Bush president. I can’t even begin to imagine the damage that would come from that.

      • Cawmun Cents

        I am surprised that you do not suggest throwing money at it….(like a good progressive)though regarding another member of the Bush family I agree with you.

      • DaveH

        Have you written your representatives, AMJ? It is coming up for renewal soon. You might be surprised to see how many Democrats have voted for that unConstitutional law.

    • Pat R

      Someday people are going to wake up and realize that 911 was an inside job. There were no Muslims on those planes, period. Many of the so-called terrorist have been found alive and well in other countries.
      Those planes were taken control of from the ground. Why do you think that the “black boxes” were immediately rushed out of there?

    • LeRoy Z.

      Victoria, you need to research the war a little more. The 9/11 perps were NOT Iraqi’s. They were not from Iraq. Our attacking Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. As a matter of fact, the majority of those guys were from Saudi Arabia. And Bin Laden is a member of the Saudi King’s family. Gee, I wonder why we were never able to capture him?? Coincidence?? Right!!

      • Joe

        Even if Bin Laden was staying in a Washington D.C. hotel,it is quite possible that they would have no interest in his capture. The C.I.A. runs a propaganda machine. 911 is a political football and a psychological tool. It is well known that both the Iraq invasion and the Patriot Act were planned years in advance.

  • valricoslash

    I’m from Florida and I think that Jeb would make a great president. Unfortunately, I think too many people will associate him with his brother and there is still enough hate for GW out there that it would make it virtually impossible for Jeb to win, and I think that he knows that. Besides, the Democrats would not like anything resembling a Bush dynasty, especially if Jeb’s son gets into politics in the future. The Bush’s would have achieved what the Kennedy’s could not. Personally, I think that he should run against Bill Nelson for the Senate.

    • Bruce D.

      Jeb Bush was a very effective governor of Florida. His handling of all the hurricanes were outstanding. But I would not like to see him as president as he has been promoting amnesty for illegals.

      • JUKEBOX

        I like Jeb, but he has too many problems in his immediate family, which the Dems will use to destroy him, and re-elect Nobama.

      • kate8

        I agree. I like Jeb well enough, but his name is a liability. Besides, it’s beginning to seem too much like a dynasty.

        We need fresh blood. Good luck on that one.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Kate8,
        I’ll say it again! Check out Duncan Hunter!! Anti-amnesty, pro reduce the debt, Actually made them build 50 miles of the fence through his being a pain in the a$$, anti-gun control!!

      • kate8

        Joe H. – Yes, I remember Duncan Hunter. Good guy. Tough on illegal immigration.

        The only guy I liked a little better was Tom Tancredo, because Tom had a bit more fire in him.

        These men are opposed by the NWO, so it would take an act of God to get them even past the primaries. But I wouldn’t entirely rule that out, either.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    This is what our Nations One party-two head system does to get the one “they” want in office. Its the “one-two-setup”, this will guarantee Obummer getting re-elected. This is clear proof we have one party running the nation under the guise of 2.

    • Cawmun Cents

      So you are just finding out that Brand A is Brand A,and Brand B is Brand A?…..what is needed is for an American to run for office.Not the kind that hates America because we live better than the rest of the world,but one who celebrates that fact.We are turning into a nation of [offensive word removed].We need to rebuild our national identity.The last thing we need is a politically correct hack in there doing what a real American should be doing!I do not know about the rest of you but I grow weary of being told what is good for me.I am sick up and fed with the nanny states’trying to make m into a [word removed].I am willing to fight to be an American and remain American….the issue is…am I fighting other supposed Americans?

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Actually I’ve known it for some time. Whats your wake up date? LOL

      • Cawmun Cents

        1976….Jimmuh Carter was elected…

      • Cawmun Cents

        OFFENSIVE WORD REMOVED….`exactly the problem….political correctness….I am telling you now that this will kill us faster than a thousand progressives.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Cawmun Cents,

        It’s not “political correctness,” it’s common decency. That’s not a word to be used in polite society.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Bert Cundle

        As a CHILD, I Hated the Banning of any words the Speaker / Writer Chooses to use! They Best Describe the users hart & Mind! I hated the changing the diffinations of the words used, to show power as a pervert. Today I read All Definations of a word, and am confused.
        There fore as an adult! LET THE TRUTH HAPPEN SO I CAN MAKE A JUDGEMENT, OF Facts! Anyone Trting to control my Education, is in violation of obscureing the facts / truth!

      • DaveH

        The thing is, Cawmun, that this site is owned by Bob Livingston. His rules. Private companies have freedom too.

      • libertytrain

        So little decency left in the world -

  • Rosco1776

    Good article! The Republocrats are the same old, same old! All the media candidates are just two sides of the same coin anyway.
    Thanks for a good reply Sidewinder, I wholly agree!

  • Jeff L

    Bush fatigue — enough is enough! No more RINO’s either! We need strong conservatives, not Jeb Bush. What this is all about is a fear of the Michelle Bachmann’s and Sarah Palin’s of the world. BOTH sides fear these women and BOTH sides will do what it takes to destroy them both.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Throwing another Bush in the ring will not unite the Republican party. Find us a good Tea Party candidate! We need someone that will listen to the people! I liked George W., but even he was too liberal. Too many people dislike the Bush family and I really don’t think Jeb would win if he ran…

    • bbstacker

      You hit the nail on the head. Bush wouldn’t win, and you-know-who would get the victory and to hell in a hand basket we’d all be moving at warp speed. This charade of “conservative” simply because of sprouting a *republican* banner overhead is toast. Most of us who are now awake have seen, heard, dealt with enough of the lies and business as usual when we put our hopes into the ballot box. Rino’s need to be extinct, and it’s well past the hour for Citizens to be engaged and vetting these imposters long before they get their name on a primary ballot.

      • Cawmun Cents

        If we would have done that as a nation…O’bama would have never been on the ballot.

    • JUKEBOX

      My favorite is Haley Barbour. He is a man who has Washington experience, disaster experience, is a straight talker, and a man who is aware of when politicians are feeding him a line of BS. He makes sense when he speaks, which will confuse the Progressives.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/government/big-budget-bingo/?eiid=&rmid=2011_01_27_PLA_PIZ0411D&rrid=307098176 GyroTyro

        Socialists/Progressives (a misnomer) are actually REGRESSIVES

        Socialists are constantly attempting to return (REGRESS) the government of this country to the era before the American Revolution. They are trying to destroy our republic and REGRESS us to the era with a monarch like King George. The objective is to put themselves,the “elite” in total control.

        Therefore they are not progressives, they are REGRESSIVES and should be referred to as such.

        Both bushes have been regressives trying to push us into a one world order as demonstrated by the NAFTA agreement. The little sheethead in office now in collaboration with clintoon is trying to get us into a UN agreement that will disarm the citizens of the US and then we will be in no better shape than the defenseless citizens of Mexico victimized by calderon and the drug cartels.

      • DEBRA ANDERSON

        JUKEBOX … YOU MUST HAVE NOT HEARD HALEY BARBOUR’S INTERVIEW WHERE HE SAID HIS STATE COULDN’T HAVE REBUILT AFTER KATRINA IF IT HADN’T BEEN FOR ALL OF THOSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HE ALLOWED TO COME IN THERE AND DO SOME OF THE WORK … WHILE UNTOLD NUMBERS OF MISSISSIPPIANS AND FOLKS FROM SURROUNDING STATES WERE OUT OF WORK! THERE SHOULD NOT HAVE A SINGLE ILLEGAL ALLOWED TO DO ANY OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION WORK UNTIL EVERY AMERICAN LOOKING FOR WORK WAS RULED OUT.

      • Mike In MI

        Why, Deb? -
        The fist principle of the regime, the media, the left and many on the right is that all Americans are [offensive word removed] and don’t deserve a break or to help, or they won’t “do that kind of work” or the Mississippi Democratic machine was paying contractors who would be counted on for bribes and kick-backs to fuel the rise of … ta-da-da-dump-da-dum-m-m-…(drum roll)bdr-rh-rh-rh-rh… (Soviet National Anthem background)…The MESSIAH.

      • DEBRA ANDERSON

        Barbour Rates Worst In GOP Lineup On Immigration;
        Gov. Pawlenty Improves His Lead Over 8 Other Top Hopefuls

        We have rated and added Gov. Haley Barbour (R-Miss.) as the 9th person on our 2012 Presidential Hopefuls Grid.

        Be sure to look at all the revised ratings on our Prez Grid at:
        http://www.numbersusa.com/content/node/11556/

        THIS STATEMENT IS FROM NUMBERSUSA … THEY DEAL STRICTLY WITH THE ISSUE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

      • Mike in MI

        To the Editor – Sorry, I had no intent of using something so offensive it would be determined removable. Did I unwittingly misspell (typo) something? I don’t remember what it was.

      • LeRoy Z.

        Debra, you are so right!! I live in a small community about 50 miles southwest of Buffalo and am personally acquainted with several locals who traveled to Miss. after Katrina thinking they’d find employment for a time. They found work okay….for about two weeks…then the illegals arrived. Our boys were summarily dismissed and sent home. This absolutely sucks!!!!

  • Sidewinder

    Well this article shouldn’t surprise anyone.
    Bob mentioned perpetual war under the Bush’s, so true. And with a constant state of war comes massive spending. Officially we are 13 Trillion in debt now…

    The very last thing we need is another Bush in the White House. These people are sore losers, and seem to think they have some kind of right to the presidency.

    I actually remember GW Bush saying that deficits are good. Good?

    We don’t need to reunite the Republican party. The country went to hell when they were in the White House. And the current Democrat is finishing us off. We need a rehabilitated Republican Party.

    And what we need more of, is what we just saw yesterday.

    When I first learned that the Tea Party would not be running their own candidates, but rather endorsing select Republicans, I thought they were getting into bed with the GOP. That couldn’t be good.

    But they have surprised me. Shooting down provisions of the Patriot Act yesterday was a very hopeful sign.

    We do not need a reunited Republican Party that inflicts its narrow agenda on the rest of us, through fear mongering, and insider deals.
    And to be clear, the Democrats are certainly no better.

    What they need to do, is flush out the old guard, and get some fresh thinking in there. They need to adopt a platform that actually reflects the will of Americans, and get back to long lost limited government.

    We expect our soldiers to risk life and limb everyday to preserve a higher ideal….liberty. Liberty is more valuable than any single life.
    Why then, while our soldiers willingly put themselves in harm’s way overseas, do we, here at home, accept what we are told, that we must trade away our liberties in favor of safety? That is not the American way.

    No red blooded American need cower in his home, with his phone fully tapped, worrying if his Google searches will land him on a federal watch list. We are not terrorists, and should not be treated as such. Not by lowly public servants. Nor should we have to worry that honest financial transactions will raise red flags with HS, through the Know your Customer policies. Too many questions, by too many snoops. Lots of busy work created by federal agencies tracking every transaction, analyzing mountains of financial data, internet searches…. And for what?
    A foolish endeavor during a time of shrinking federal revenues, and budget crisis.

    No more Bush’s.
    No more.

    So I want to extend a hearty Thank You! to the Tea Party congressmen, who showed some backbone yesterday. I am not breaking out the champagne just yet, but I will continue to watch. It was a positive step in the right direction.

    • lkar

      The liberals do not call it war. It is nation building. So what Obama is doing is different than what Bush is doing. Of course the American public knows that war and nation building are the same thing. The real issue is the money used for these “nation building” exercises has not led to any real freedom for those we say we are helping. And it appears that it has not led to any real security for the average American (attempted bombers, Mexican murders, and Fort Hood).

      • JUKEBOX

        I don’t know why these clowns aren’t spending those trillions of dollars to build the #1 priority, The United States.

      • Mike In MI

        Jukebox -
        And just what makes anyone conclude after two years (about a quarter of which was spent haggling over passage of treasury-busting O’Bomb’R'Care) that this country’s wellbeing has anything to do with the Progressives’ expectations? Obama and friends have done nothing to provide any benefit to this nation. Now, If I were merely stupid, yet, TRYING to provide benefit I would at least do SOMETHING right. Something good would come out of it – if the only thing right were my desire to do good. Something would happen to get me headed down the path of good results. IF NOTHING ELSE, CONTINUAL FAILURE WOULD INFLUENCE ME TO CHANGE OR RESIGN – admitting, “I’m not up to it; America doesn’t deserve me.”

        They haven’t. They have hit on nothing.

        Therefore, I conclude their plans and intents from the start were to wreak havoc and produce a chaotic situation, leading to mayhem and martial law.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Well said Mike in MI!

      • kate8

        Mike in MI – That would be the conclusion of any astute person, even if we weren’t being told this outright.

        Well said.

      • Sam

        He has not failed. He has done exactly what he said he would do …fundamentally transform (change) the government of the United States of America … Read “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky and you will undrstand what our Muslim president is doing. What do you expect from someone who trained radicals for ACORN in Chicago.

      • Mike in MI

        Thanks, Angel and k88.

        Sam, just one question -
        Do you, also, think those pictures of Muslim Radicals in training -running (with face masks on), crawling through culverts, jumping over fences, doing all those exciting moslem things…whatever – were taken in the flats by the lake in East Chicago? I’m just glad they didn’t regale us /w training pics of underpanters or rectum packers. HM-M-M, I wonder, did they cheer for Green Bay?

    • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

      14 trillion in debt, but what’s a trillion or two between friends.

      • Sidewinder

        14 Trillion…wow, the numbers are going by in a blur now.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Sidewinder,
        Hey, you must have had a look at that debt clock!!! They ARE going by in a blur!!

    • Allan Halbert

      The real issue the article raises is who can beat Obama in 2012. If Jeb Bush wins the nomination, will you vote for Obama or Bush?

      • Bert Cundle

        LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW WHO IS BEHIND ANOTHER BUSH…

      • Toomuchsense

        Bert……Who!

      • Toomuchsense

        Bert, did you escape bed check? If you keep this up, they’ll take the computer and online privileges away from the rest of your group home.

      • Average Joe

        In the Words of Richard Pryor in “Brewster’s Millions”……”None of th above. Ron Paul / Rand Paul 2012!

      • Al Sieber

        A. Joe, I agree with you, another Bush would be “same $hit, different a$$hole”. Ron and Rand are the ticket.

      • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

        Ron Paul, yes…or maybe…he’s smart and sensible – two things the Republicans are against.

        Rand Paul, no thanks. He’s just a racist punk.

      • Bert Cundle

        How about Don Trumph: … Your Fired, Your, Fired & Your Fired… 10,000 times —- The Wasted $ On Commities Could Save us Billions!!!

      • JR

        Will not happen, for several reasons.
        They are NOT the GOP darlings, and they are NOT the winning team against Obama. If you want to beat Obama, you will have to come up with someone ten fold better than that. So far, I have not seen any proposal out there that will be able to convince the millions upon millions of voters that will come out in those elections to vote differently then Obama.
        Remember, the November elections went towards the GOP only because most of the tea party and GOP members voted and only a small part of the liberals and democrats voted…that is a typical mid term result…mid terms+low voter participation…only this time it was a HIGH conservative participation and same low liberal participation. Chances are there will be millions upon millions of people out there that did not vote mid term, and chances are those will be democrat or liberal voters and they will make a big difference simply because it will be all the same conservatives voting only this time they have to count against the full force of liberal voters.
        Thus in order to win, the conservatives in this country will need to find someone who also appeals to the liberal voters….and so far, I have heard no names yet that would be able to lead that race…..and win.

      • letitsnow1

        bush of course, obama should not even be in the run, why the hell is he still our president?

      • Cawmun Cents

        Republicans are behind the curve as usual.They should have been grooming their next prodigy when the 2008 Republican National Convention was occuring.Running old hack GOP stalwarts is not going to be good enough.To campaign on”anything but O’La Bamba”will not net them the presidency.There needs to be new fresh blood,the kind that is inspirational.These older men like Gingrich and Romney will wind up in O’Bomb you 2.0.Then how these hackneyed liberals on this thread will gloat.You will see it happen because nobody has prepared for the next cycle yet.How impressive we must look to the rest of the world,oh ye batch of American conservatives.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Yes…instead of arguing that this and that needs to be done,you need to be focused on winning the next election.That is the only way you will quantify change from what is now taking place.You need to find someone that will get the people to focus on being American.This (being like the rest of the world)is what got O’stammer elected.You need to find somebody with the old style John Wayne charisma….or face it,you will get your posteriors handed to you.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Allan,
        I’ll write in Duncan Hunter!!! The independents have convinced me! I will no longer vote for the lesser of two evils!!!

      • Bert Cundle

        Oboma is not the end of BLACK POWER Drive! They Want it all! But if they were realy concerned for Black people, (not just them selves) they would take what they learned to AFERICA & Educate & Raise the standard of living for AFERICANS! Opra Couldn’t do it alone!

    • Al Sieber

      Good post Sidewinder!!!

  • Kinetic1

    Bob? Is that you Bob? With very little exception, I agree with you! I saw this article and was prepared to argue that another Bush would be the end of us, but you did all that for me. Was this just a ploy to bring all the anti Bush forces out into the open? Maybe there’s hope for us still.

  • Martin Gorelick

    Irony: a low-rent, snake-oil-selling website calling “National Review” a “rag.”

    And don’t forget to tighten your tinfoil hat. Them black helicopters is everywhere, man!

    • newspooner

      National Review magazine is “a rag”, and has been for years. Buckley was a Trojan Horse.

      • Al Sieber

        newspooner, you got that right about William F. Buckley, thanks for bringing that up.

      • Mike In MI

        All Sieber -
        Right O’ Bro, Buckley was a conceited, elitist-dominated tool of the Eastern/New England king pushers who borrowed the ideas of Russell Kirk (a great man of TALL ideas) twisted them around their own stripper’s pole and proceeded to dance down the aisles of Congress as though they deserve anything but being taken down and out in the next election cycle.

      • Al Sieber

        Thanks, Mike In Ml, thats 3 of us now that admit that we know.

      • Pathfinder

        Look at how the republican party establishment has done all it can to sabotage real conservatives within the republican party. Lately the republican party has been nothing more than an echo of the democrats.

        Let’s face it folks; choosing between the republican, neo-con, RINOs; and the democrats, is like choosing between Trotsky and Lenin. They are merely different brands of communism.

        Only the tea party candidates have been of any use for our conservative values. And look at how the republican party establishment has done all it can to sabotage real conservatives within the republican party.

        Unless the entrenched RINOs can be removed, the republican party should wither and die (like the whigs before them) to be replaced by a REAL second party.

    • DOGS FIGHT

      Our government and major corporations are on the record in conducting evil. Shoot if nothing else, why did the fat cats on wallstreet and capital street take away trillions in bailouts that 95% of Americans DIDN’T WANT? If you fail at your job or your small business where is your bailout? Where is your at least bronze parachute? Do you think living on food stamps in a tent city at least a bronze parachute?

      You making fun of us is like making fun of a scantily clad teenage girl for walking down a dark alley and being brutally raped and murdered by a vile rapist. We are so quick to criticize the girl for her stupidity and boldness while ignoring the ENORMOUS GREATER evil that is the psychotic mad man engaging in rape and murder.

      • Wanda Murline

        I’m sorry, but another Bush will NOT be able to beat Obama. There is just too much hatred spewed by the alphabet news against his brother. As a member of several tea parties, we are now in the process of finding our candidate for 2012. We want fresh blood, not the same old crap that have been in Washington for decades. We want new ideas, someone who is not “politically correct”, someone with new ideas and ways to see these ideas into realities…someone who does not have a luggage rack of bagage trailing behind him. We will find the one to take down Obama, and it surely is not Jeb Bush.

      • JR

        The Name alone will compel many voters to vote for Obamba as the lesser of 2 evils. The bush dynasty of lies, corruption and idiocy has no chance. I just hope that anyone comes up with something better than that, he, Palin, or Ron Paul are not winning candidates against Obamba.

      • Dick Gazinia

        true

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JR,
        check out Duncan Hunter!!!

      • Pathfinder

        I think that congressman West from Florida would be a great candidate.

      • Dan Burke

        Sadly, that might be the plan by the “Rhinos” and the establishment. If they push enough of us to vote other and we get stuck with progressivism another four years then perhaps they can get us to forget our attraction to the Tea Party as well as get enough young voters to overwhelm our ranks with their progressive indoctrination….

        Personally, I really hope that going into the primaries that the establishment’s chosen candidate gets defeated by a Tea Party candidate like we saw in several primaries during the 2010 elections. I would so love to see how the establishment goes into convulsion revealing themselves as the progressives they are. Then I might listen to presidential debates with enthusiasm. I know this much, if the Republicans put forward another “Rhino” as their presidential candidate then they will have lost my vote. Sure voting for neither Democrat or Republican might give Obama the Presidency, but the only reason I voted for McCain is because I actually liked his VP candidate. Otherwise, I could not stand the presidential debates. Was I the only one who thought this: “They just claimed to give two different views on how to fix the problem put forward for them to debate, but if you boil off all the fluff they really just said the same thing as their opponent. The only thing that changed was the words used. Sort of the like difference between saying salt or sodium chloride (sodium chloride is table salt).” Both were very progressive. And if you really listened, then everything Obama has been doing should have been a no brainer. The only thing really surprising me is how well the media is propping all this stuff up and that the American people are buying it hook, line, and sinker….

        The only good news this past two years for me has been the Tea Party. I loved the ripples it created and how it really changed the conversation. There was actually a debate I enjoyed listening to. Instead of trying to pick the lesser of two evils, it was two different views of constitutional governance. Oh, how I loved that. When someone asked me what I thought of those two local Republican (Tea Party) candidates going into the Republican primaries, I was able to tell my coworker that I would vote for either of them. Both had their flaws. I both agreed with things they said and disagreed other stuff they said, and there were certainly questions about their past yet to be resolved. It was a completely refreshing and different experience as opposed to listening to the Presidential debates just a couple years earlier.

      • kate8

        Wanda – Remember McCain? I will never believe he won the primary vote of the people. He was the LEAST popular.

        Bush is, obviously, the choice of the NWO, to insure Obama wins.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Gotta Agree kate, after the licking GW took, NWO has got to be the only reason Jeb would run__They smeared Dubya to make Obama look good coming in, if they run another Bush, everyone will run the other direction, that will ensure an Obama victory!

      • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

        ….*they* smeared Dubya…??

        No, Adolf von Dubya did it to himself…though, most likely at the behest of *them*.

        And I think calling it ‘NWO’ now is a little bit of a misnomer, since it’s pretty much business as usual, and has been since the end of WWII.
        Plus, it just sounds a little bit too *tin-foil hatty*…

        It is an agenda of the far-right establishment, not the left – haha…the left aren’t that organized, and are likely too stoned most of the time to care…you know, if I were to make blanket statements like that.

        Anyways, I doubt it matters whether it’s Jebediah Bush, or Jebediah Springfield…the vote will go as (*they*) planned (just as it did with Dubya, when *they* rigged the voting)…unless…

        …unless we vote independent, because they might not have predicted that. Then again, it might only last for a little while, before *they* get to the independents, and bring them into the fold…but it could be worth a try, at least (I think).

      • kate8

        Dogma – You are a riot.

        Obama is making the Bush era seem like America’s glory days.

      • MLK

        Right, it’s not a NWO. What is happening has been planned for hundreds of years. Read the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion by Marsden. Everything that is happening has been planned.

      • jeri stone

        Agreed….tea party person.The last thing this Nation needs is another Bush. I have a long list why not, but will spare the space. but the majority of Americans is not looking for another Bush…period

      • Peter

        I agree, one word and one word only if the GOP select Jeb Bush to run for President: Tragedy

      • Pathfinder

        DON’T VOTE FOR RINOS !!!

      • Mike In MI

        Right , Dogs Fight -
        It’s bad enough the republicans put up GWB so soon after his father. But now this. It’s obscene/ they’re obscene – the Dynasty Makers that is.
        What is this? Are they trying to replace the US Government with an heirarchical monarchy that rules by “Divine Right”? Is this the Republican answer to a Soviet style or Chinese-commie style hobnail boot in your face?
        The whole Republican pile of “stuff” is just a different brand of thumb to hold freemen in subjugation. Time to get rid of them.

      • Mike In MI

        The “hob-nail boot” (I failed to add in that sentence) would be the representation standing for Obama or whoever else Soros and the Rothschilds decide to cram down our collective throat. Which is what will be if they succeed – “a collective”.

      • Pathfinder

        Mike in MI : You are correct ! I would like to point out that both the republicans and the democrats are controlled by powers behind the scenes. (For example, check out the Council on Foreign Relations {CFR}). The banksters {“banksters” is a coined word formed by combining the words “banker” and “gangster”} controll both parties and continue to steer us toward a “one world government”. The intent is to create a worldwide, socialist dictatorship with themselves at the top controlling everything.

      • Mike in MI

        Pathfinder –
        You said, “…a world wide socialist dictatorship with themselves at the top…”.
        The “w.w.s.d.” will exist for a very short while and then be supplanted by a pseudo-teacher (“false prophet”) of a humanist idealism fronting a totally (inward) corrupt person who’s father-god is the Devil. To him, to his mind, the Devil will reveal whatever the Devil wants him to do.
        He will direct all mankind to worship the Devil – straight up – for what and who he is. To get to that point, of course, he will have to have convinced everybody that it is fruitless to dispute or fight against him. Everybody will know what they are worshipping, whether they like it or not, but will comply in order to stay “alive” or achieve “peace”. No one will be exempt – atheist, agnostic, Muslim, Hindu, Bhuddist, Tao, Dao, pantheist, Gaia, scientologist…whatever.
        I believe, starting in Revelation 13:4 to the end of the paragraph describes the heart of the progression of events. Whoever is the best servant/worshipper of the Devil will be pulled to the top – if they shed allegience to any other god or religous set up.
        There are four phrases in this passage – “and was given to it” – that indicate that four things that are needed to get what the Devil has always wanted are given. One of them is “power (authority-’exousia’ not ‘dunamis’)” to allow the Devil and those never wanted to submit to the true God an opportuity to live under authority of the only alternative. They wil get an opportunity to see what they have been shielded from because God has always had, up to this point, people on earth who love God’s Truth and worship Him.
        And, for that (them), the rest of the world has been blessed. Well, at a certain point Christians, people who have acquired God’s spirit to worship Him (not just use the name “Jesus”), will be taken out of men’s (and the Devil’s) sphere of influence. Without God-worshippers and lovers the Devil will have freedom to carry out what he must to get the remainder of men’s worship – just what he has always sought for.
        So, maybe the course of events from when this stuff started to its end is inexhorable – or, maybe, “inexhorrible”. As for me, I will claim the promises of God that apply to me and go along for the ride.
        If you haven’t yet – get a Bible and find Romans 10: 9-10. Then start reading the book of Acts and do what you see the believers did then. God hasn’t changed. His ability (in the name of Jesus Christ) has not decreased nor deteriorated over the last 1900 years.

      • Pat R

        What we don’t need is another Bush (Schiff)!!

        Yes, Schiff is the correct name. GHWB’s father changed his name to Schiff after coming to America on the Campaign Paper Clip. Prescott Schiff was a Nazi who worked for Adolf Hitler in Germany. The name change was not done legally, it was just used. This is how so many Nazis have infiltrated our Government. This was the plan to take over the World.
        They, the Shadow Government, need to get Jeb into office so they can keep fighting the Global Settlement Payments. GHWB told Obama that if he allowed the payments to be made, that he (GHWB) would go to the Supreme Court and have him (Obama) removed from office.
        Welcome to pre-war Germany, people!!

      • Cawmun Cents

        Can I have some of your pot?

      • Pathfinder

        Pat R : Just remember that the word “nazi” is derived from the phrase “national socialist”. Thus both Bush and Obama are actually on the same side. That is why BO’s policies are so similar to Bush 43′s. Both the dems and the RINOs are controlled by the banksters.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Mike, I’m just disgusted with the whole stinkin lot them in Washington, ya can’t trust any of them!

      • http://aol.com Just Hastoo

        I must totaly agree, as most americans will also agree with you ! The Tea Party and NEW BLOOD IN THE SEAT TO WIN !!!! And to keep America FREE.

      • Pathfinder

        Just Hastoo : Exactly right !! No more democrats AND no more RINOs. We must evict the entrenched RINOs. We must continue to elect tea party candidates either a republicans or as a new party. But we must never support any more RINOs.

    • http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm Bobby D

      True DAT Marty – I SEEN ‘EM (black helicopters)- I live in the west Suburbs of Chicago near Midway Airport. When “they” start with martial law after the next major terrorist attack in this country, begin confiscating our legally owned firearms, and locking up “dissidents” (i.e. conservative libertarians who WON’T take the “Mark” after they push that “global currency” after all national governments are deliberately driven to bankruptcy- ref: Revelation 13:16-17 ) in those voluminous (currently MT) concentration camps (ref: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm)
      to be “processed” U2, will start to get nervous. HACK!
      DON’T TAKE THE MARK!!!
      Ref: Revelation 14:9-11

      • kate8

        Bobby D – Did any of you see the post from American Patriot yesterday? This will chill your spine:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ZdbiSLnv4

      • JR

        This is no news.
        1 month after 9/11 the government started the process for this overhaul and it has now taken nearly 10 years to complete it. This has nothing to do with Obama, it has started under Bush and many of its provisions are made possible under the patriotic act and emergency alert rules and regulations in effect since the second world war. Those rules are a direct leftover of the cold war, and the federal and state governments have ALWAYS been able to directly interrupt any and all radio and TV transmissions if they deemed fit to do so. In fact, since the early 50s every station is wired in a way to accommodate that and the fines for non compliance are high and could go all the way for one to lose the license.
        What is new is that there is an attempt to expand the system to cell phones and other connected devices….simply because more people are connected these days via cell phones or computers then listening to radio or TV. I.m.h.o. this is a sensible thing to do as it not only involves the government being able to alert people in a state or federal emergency but it is also used for severe weather, amber alerts and local hazard warnings. Many a life has been saved with this system in the past…and many will be saved in the future….to demonize this and use it for an conspiracy agenda is just plain stupid

      • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

        Actually, I believe there was a CIA operation called ‘MOCKINGBIRD’, that had their agents infiltrate the media.

        Apparently, this is not really news either, as it was supposedly exposed in the 70′s or something…

        Still, you can see what it might have looked like by watching FAUX “news” (or ‘Fox news’, to Republicans)…or by coming to this very website here!

      • kate8

        JR, I realize that this is not new, that it has been in place for many years. I remember the “tests” on TV and radio.

        If you listened to the whole thing, he says that. What I found chilling is that it is NOW being implemented, that Obama finalized his takeover in the last 2 days. Also, that we are about to be barraged with a new propaganda campaign, coming over every possible outlet, including Amber alert signs. There are cameras, digital signs and monitor screens everywhere now, so there will be no escape.

        I recall many years ago hearing that BigBro would have the ability to turn on TVs and computers at will, to instruct us on what to do (such as ‘report to your local post office for registration’).

        Most people scoffed at these warnings. Well, these things are now reality, and are bearing down on us like an avalanche.

      • kate8

        trut – People who say things like that are one step away from being a NAZI.

        So far, we still have free speech here. Thanks to people like you, not for much longer, though.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kate8, Who is trut?

      • Cawmun Cents

        God of liberal,idealogue,wannabe’s is my guess who trut is.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        trut is_Trut is the mutable concoction of facts employed for an ulterior purpose. Trut consists of exactly 4/5 of the stuff of truth. Four out of five letters lined up as a reasonable facsimile of truth.
        urban dictionary

      • Mike in MI

        Angel -
        What a stroke of genius! Keep that dictionary handy, please.
        K88′s recollection was accurate – which is why I responded as I did.

      • kate8

        Angel W – I’m not sure why you’re asking me who Trut is. I see that some others posted in reply to Trut’s earlier post, but looking through the thread, I don’t see it anymore! Did I miss it?

        He said that anyone who quotes the Bible is one step away from being a catholic pedophile, or some such statement.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kate8, I asked because your post to trut, appeared right after my post__I gazed through the posts and didn’t see anyone by that name on this thread,and then thought your post was directed at me__later, I found the name trut on another thread, Thats all._-Thanks

      • kate8

        Angel W – I wonder what happened to his post. Except for others responding also, I would have thought I was hallucinating! LOL. His post simply disappeared.

        Weird. I know it was on this thread because I hit his reply button. I also thought at the time it was a strange moniker. But then, there are strange folks.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kate8__ yeah it was strange and I think Mike in MI replied too__
        __funny thing is, I thought you were calling him a name(trut) with some kind of meaning at first, and went to the dictionary for a definition, and I’ll be d*mned I even found one LMAO!!!

      • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

        I think Angel Wannabe has it wright about trut.It`s a meaning and not a person.But, what the heck do I know?

      • Pathfinder

        kate8 : Please remember that the word “nazi” is derived from the phrase “national socialist”. Thus it is the left wing socialists, and not the right wing capitalist, who are following the nazi system.

      • Mike In MI

        trut -
        People who don’t, can’t or won’t quote it are the same as RCC (or any other brand) of pedophiles. What truth do you have going for you, if any, to keep you out of that corral? The Humanist’s Manifesto?? – I’d be willing to bet. Well, if you can quote that or ascribe to it you might just as well get serious about it and go for the whole Satanic Bible…why not? Indecorous?

      • Don in Ohio

        Bobby,
        Damn, that’s scary.
        It looks like all the pieces are in place for Martial Law.
        And it all fits Obummas plan to become a dictator.
        With one stroke of his own pen, he can take over everthing!
        Maybe time to buy a gun, cuz they ain’t gonna take me alive!
        Don

    • JR

      And the “”BUSH”" dynasty of corruption and idiocy continues.

    • Mike In MI

      Ah-h-h-m-m Martin G. -
      Can you give us an idea of what Big Al the “Global Warming Denier” tastes like? I’ll bet that’s a thrill a minute, eh-h-h?

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