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Islam Is Afire While Obama Fiddles

February 2, 2011 by  

Islam Is Afire While Obama Fiddles

“Is that a fiddle I hear there somewhere drifting through those fired dry sands?”–Raphie Frank

Another week with Barack Obama as U.S. President and radical Islam grows even stronger. Egypt, America’s largest and most important ally in the Middle East, is aflame as revolutionary forces marched and even burned President Hosni Mubarak’s Ruling Party headquarters.

As I write to you the streets of Cairo are ablaze following a week of mass demonstrations in which thousands of people have attacked the police and ignored curfews. The people want to end the 30-year dictatorial rule of Mubarak, but radical elements are quickly bending the protests their way in an all out effort to turn the land of the Pyramids into the home of martyrs.

If the extremists in Egypt can do what they did in Iran, then the Middle East — home to two-thirds of the world’s oil reserves — will turn to Islamic law.

Egypt sits at the crossroads between Europe and the Middle East. Not only does it have the largest Arab population but also the strongest conventional army in the region. Since the fall of the Shah in Iran, Egypt has provided the glue that held the Middle East together. It was Egypt that was the first Arab nation to recognize Israel and it is always Cairo at center stage in any Middle East peace process.

Political analyst Simeon Mitropolitski sums up what is at stake:

“Egypt offers a completely different political and social model, something between the Iranian and the Taliban versions of Islamic state. In 1954 this organization was banned and shortly afterward it was accused of trying to assassinate President Nasser, a champion of alternative secular social and political model.”

Regardless of what is at stake, Egypt is burning and the Obama administration has once again been caught off guard.

On Monday, Washington was desperately trying to fly more than 2,400 U.S. citizens out of Egypt. It appears that no contingency plan was made for this revolt. Again, American intelligence services appear to be anything but intelligent.

So far the State Department has put a remarkable positive spin on events, just like they did when the Shah was toppled. But wishful thinking isn’t going to create a new Egypt built on Thomas Jefferson’s ideals. It is far more likely that America and the world will have to deal with an Islamic-ruled Egypt, if not now then in a few short years.

One of the most immediate worries is the Suez Canal, a waterway that opens into the Red Sea and which is a choke point for much of the world’s oil supply. Egypt’s primary export is cotton. The world isn’t going to fall apart because of a cotton shortage. Yet whoever rules Egypt also has their hands on the Suez spigot. This could have an immediate short-term impact on oil deliveries — the price of crude has surged more than $6 per barrel in just the past two trading days.

Rioting in Cairo could spread fast. Many businesses have shut down operations. Egypt’s stock market (EGX) has been closed after it fell 16 percent last week.

Outside of Egypt the financial center of the Middle East, Abu Dhabi, has been hit the hardest. On the Dubai exchange shares plummeted to a one-year low. If unrest grows and the Suez Canal closes it won’t be some far off stock exchange falling, it will be the New York Stock Exchange. But there is something far more worrisome than a 25 percent correction in the Dow Jones Industrial Average or even $5 per gallon gasoline. Rather think of the ramifications if Egypt, a center post of America’s war on terror, falls into the hands of the enemy.

Forget Robert McNamara’s incorrect domino theory that was projected for Southeast Asia in the 1960s. If Egypt crumbles there really will be a cascade of giant dominoes headed straight for the West and riding atop each one of them will be a crazed terrorist with a bomb strapped to his back.

It is still too soon to say what will arise from this revolt, but it could center on the growing power of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood (MB). According to the Business Insider:

“The MB would be calamitous for U.S. security. What’s more, their current defenders don’t really argue that point, as much as they seem to dismiss it as not important or something we can live with. The MB supports Hamas and other terrorist groups, makes friendly noises to Iranian dictators and torturers, would-be uncertain landlords of the critical Suez Canal, and opposes the Egyptian-Israeli agreement of 1979, widely regarded as the foundation of peace in the Mideast. Above all, the MB would endanger counterterrorism efforts in the region and worldwide. That is a very big deal.”

This leaves the United States at the mercy of another Iranian crisis, but this time around is far worse. 

True, Iran was a major oil exporter and Egypt is not. However the world was consuming only half as much oil when the Shah fell compared to today. More importantly, during the Iranian revolution Saudi Arabia had enough spare oil production capacity to replace all of Iran’s oil exports. In fact, the House of Saud increased oil output from 8 million barrels per day to more than 12 million barrels per day. That is something that Saudi Arabia can no longer do.

If another Islamic Revolution gains traction in Egypt how much longer will there even be a Saudi Arabia as we know it? Egypt has been a great counter-balance against extremism in the Middle East for almost 40 years. It has provided critical support to Arab oil producers like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and it has been the primary reason there has been peace between Israel and the Arab world.

The Middle East is a bigger tinderbox than ever and once again Obama has shown that, under his leadership, the world continues to become a less safe place. Is it his fault that Egypt is burning? No. But it is his fault that he and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, didn’t see it coming and weren’t able to force Mubarak to reform his dictatorial rule before it was too late. Now the world will have to pay the consequences.

Action To Take

Double down on your oil investments. Canadian oil sands can only benefit from the trouble that is brewing in the Middle East. If you have not yet bought shares in Suncor Energy (NYSE, SU, $41) I urge you to do so. The price of the stock has doubled in the past two years. I expect that it could double again over the next year.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • peter robison

    Once again the right wing just doesn’t get it. Go back and read your history books, the war of 1812 was a popular uprising by American citizens to get rid of oppression by a foreign power. If it was good enough for the U.S. why do so many of you oppose the right to self detemination for others. You are so hung by your fear of the Muslims (As you were with the Communists) that you can’t see these events for what they are. People the world over want to be free, and the internet has empowered them, we should be rejoicing, the world will be a safer place. The U.S. has supported Dictators like Mubarek for their own selfish reasons for too long, and at the expense of the oppressed. The President’s response to this situation is right on.

    • Sam

      Then you should love $7.00 gasoline. Maybe you can get a ringside seat with Obama and Hillary as they cheeron their radical friends.

      • Jana

        Sam,
        There is nothing worse than people like peter who are blind to the truth because he doesn’t want to see it.
        We have no FEAR of the Muslims, we just know them for who and what they are. Just like we know who and what peter is.

      • eddie47d

        Peter is right and yes you do fear Muslims and want to deny them a chance for freedom and a better life. ALSO The price of gasoline was going up before the Tunisia overthrow so stop exaggerating everything.

      • Jana

        Sorry eddie, but you are WRONG again.
        I do not fear the Muslims. Some are really nice and good decent Americans, but the radical Muslims are evil and have evil intent. They want to bully us into submission. I will look the bullies in the face and say NO.

      • eddie47d

        Well I don’t see you taking on those on this site who say Muslims in America should be exterminated or never allowed on American soil. Saying there are good Muslims doesn’t mean much if you sit back and accept Christian extremists who want to annihilate anyone who isn’t like them. Their talk doesn’t help the good Muslims one bit but endangers their lives. Muslims in America do need to adapt faster for their own good so these confrontations don’t get over blown.

      • Brad

        Edwardo said,

        “Saying there are good Muslims doesn’t mean much if you sit back and accept Christian extremists who want to annihilate anyone who isn’t like them”.

        So what christian on this blog wants to annihilate anyone who isn’t like them, give us some proof, if not you need to shut your pie hole, you have been wrong too many times today.

      • eddie47d

        I think you have been wrong too many times today and I will definitely point out those who have made those disparaging remarks about killing Muslims. It may take a few days but we’ll start with i41 and Castaway. Since you want to be in denial maybe you ought to shut …. … ….

      • Brad

        Sorry Edwardo,

        “It may take a few days but we’ll start with i41 and Castaway”. Why i41 posted once today and nothing in his post states muslims must die and castaway hasn’t posted to day, not once, so try again dude.

      • eddie47d

        You sure know how to evade. i41 mentions Muslims on a regular basic so that means you’re not paying attention. You loose another 10 points.

    • samuel997

      Reply to peter robison says:
      February 2, 2011 at 8:45 am
      Once again the right wing just doesn’t get it. Go back and read your history books …

      Reply: Ok read the history of today’s IRAN. It was another Democrats government. What happened? Has it improved freedom? Among innocence and leftism US and the Western is letting they run free. This has not appeased the Muslims and the Western will have by the end to face what they want to avoid: confrontation with Islam.

      • eddie47d

        Why do you have to always be confronting them? Why do you always assume the Middle East is the 51st State and that their oil is ours? For a web site that says it’s not nice to take other people’s money you sure like to take other people’s oil.Since the majority of these Middle Eastern countries are as under developed as they were 50 years ago (poor) then apparently our poking our nose over there hasn’t done much good. Then you have John Meyers trying to enhance his Canadian oil portfolio by working up your fears. Nothing changes except the anger level.

      • Jana

        eddie,
        Fore Pete’s sake.
        Firstly, we buy the oil! Secondly, we want to drill our own oil. You are not on a good roll this morning.

      • eddie47d

        We are drilling our own oil sweetie but it will never be enough for you. Where’s are moral responsibility when our businesses go into another country. Even if we pay for this oil and yet the people are exploited again by their own leaders says alot about our values. WE really don’t care. If their leaders are deliberately keeping their citizens poor when they are receiving billions from us then there isn’t much difference between that and slavery.That in it self may not be our fault but then we should stop doing business with them.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        “Even if we pay for this oil and yet the people are exploited again by their own leaders says alot about our values. WE really don’t care.”

        As I read this, you are saying that we should step in and MAKE their government take care of their citizens whether they want to or not. And I thought you were blaming us for doing just that in Iraq – even though we aren’t getting oil from them. Make up your mind. Which do you want?

        Actually, your second statement is true as far as I’m concerned. I really don’t care how they treat their own citizens. That is the responsibility of their citizens, not me.

      • marvin

        eddie47d
        history back 60 70 years ago the greedy american oil companys went to kuwat saudi and just about every middle east country and put up the money and men and rigs to drill for the oil at their own expence after the wells were put in to production the great people of your beloved middle east nationalized all production and kicked out the greedy americans that had found drilled and put in production the oil the camel jockey did not know oil was their could not drill it and did not care for it

      • eddie47d

        You are correct and we still went back in there and let them get away with it. That just shows how desperate and dependent on oil we are.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        dependent upon oil – yes. And there is no harm in being that way – as long as we attempt to use our own and keep the costs down. Sooner or later we will find an alternative but forcing us to quit using oil completely won’t do it – at least not economically.

        We are also dependent upon natural gas, coal, nuclear, and hydro-power. In fact most of our electricity comes from those four sources. Oil is seldom used for generation of electricity. SO – should we stop using all of those too? I think we should continue to use ALL sources instead of trying to focus all our attention and future to just one.

        Try something on solar power – for instance – some time. Calculate how many square miles of solar panels would be required to produce enough power to provide all that is needed for any state. Then compare that area to the amount of area of the state. See what you end up with. Then consider what would have to be removed and replaced with these solar panels to get that much area. It might surprise you.

      • Al Sieber

        eddie, alternative power can not run a country, I’ve been off the grid for over 13 years and still have to run a generator a few hours a day.

      • Lewis Munn

        As I recall, we BUY their oil. Not take it!

        Of course, buying, that would be the conservative ways; Liberals may just take; they seem to have fewer inhibitions relating to Morality, and forcing what they want, as we understand and observe it.

      • eddie47d

        I said we buy their oil but don’t care how these governments abuse their people. It’s real simple to figure out why their citizens are always poor and angry and we shouldn’t be apart of that. Show a moral backbone and get the hell out from under these dictators.

      • 45caliber

        We are “taking” their oil? Where? The last I heard we were paying whatever price they asked for it. And they are the ones setting the price, not us. Further, we certainly didn’t free Kuwait and attack Iraq over oil. We don’t get a bit from either. It all goes to Europe. And I don’t believe that even you are going to insist that we are controlled by Europe, forced to fight their wars for them.

      • bob wire

        Good argument and a interesting spin. I personally believe big oil and it’s income doesn’t require a one national platform to see it’s interest carrying out and oil to flow to market.

        It’s very easy to use proxy to act in your interest without your label being attached to the project in question. Making it a gray area.

        But it should be clear why we went into Kuwait, Albright failed (for some reason)to adequately convey to Saddam (a very hard man to talk too), that Kuwait was off bounds. Now where she wasn’t instructed well or Saddam was impossible to communicate with, is up for interpretation. Maybe “read my lips” was counting a thousand points of light, and missed a memo? I just don’t know.

        In any case, the invasion of Kuwait forced the US hand to intervene, which few people seem to question.

        Of these other two invasions, Iraq was pure BS and distracted American resources in Afghanistan with their attempt to chase down one long legged Arab and his closest support.

        To invade Iran was a Bush (the decider), Chaney, Wolfiwitz, and Karl Rove brain fart! with Rummy acting as Cheerleader.

        What could go possible go wrong? Chaney wanted to get his men in there to find out what was really in the ground. “W” wanted some “Pay Backs” for Daddy and be known a War President and Saddam was being insolent and showing great disrespect to the world community and Donald (the cheerleader) was wanting command to blow some stuff up in the name of America and all the might it could bring to bear.

        All of this military activity for TWO very bad men!

        It would be a cake walk, the people would throw flowers.

        Well, we’ve sure thinned out the bad men, but I’m afraid in the process, we’ve made some new ones.

        Now we are paying them to not fight. Encouraging others to be “very naughty” so they too might get a pay check. To get the money you must prove that you are dangerous too!

        What a crock of $hit!

    • 45caliber

      peter:

      you are right; the war of 1812 was fought against a foreign oppressor. But I can’t see your corilation to Egypt. No one is attacking them except THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. If they want to get rid of it, it is certainly fine by me. All corrupt governments that want to enslave their own citizens should be done away with. (And somehow I’m reminded of our own….)

  • JR

    It is NOT our business what they do or not do, they are a sovereign nation. How would we feel if say Russia or China would tell us what to do or not to do?
    Sticking our noses into other peoples business is was brought us the hate of many countries, the Iranian hostage incident 9/11 and many more.
    When will Americans learn that we are NOT the worlds keeper? The earlier the better. Our budget would be balanced and our people would have jobs not 2 wars and 160+ US bases on foreign soil.
    Wake up people and mind your own business, because if not there will come the day where someone will makes it they’re own business to hit the bully and hit it hard.

    • Al Sieber

      JR, I have to agree with you, we need to mind our own business and stay out of foreign entanglements like the founding fathers warned us about.

      • Jana

        I agree, I think we have been way too involved in other people’s (countries) business. Now however we are involved and it does affect us in every way. The radical Muslim group would take over it could hurt our economy even more. That is why we want to be allowed to drill here in our own country and use our own resources while we are working on new sources of energy. We are cutting our noses off to spite our faces.

      • 45caliber

        Jana:

        I don’t like the idea of the radical Muslims taking over. Not because of what it might do to our businesses but what it will do to their own people. However, it will do one thing. It will identify many of those radicals. Then, if they don’t mind their own business, we can know exactly who to find and where they are.

      • Al Sieber

        Jana, where it’s gonna affect us is at the fuel pumps, it already is. maybe $7.00 gas by years end, and $4.00 a gal. by May. we have our own oil reserves here.

  • http://com i41

    Onumnutts said if a dust up ever happened with pedophile goat abusers , he would embrace the pervert muslims. Have any doubt why he is loping the lizard as the muslim brotherhood is taking over in other countries. How many loads of those sand crab n—-rs have been shipped into the USA from Palistines, Yemanias, Iraqs,palistananes, and any other pervert muslim area. The sick perverts will not assemulate, and are putting up mosques all over even in podunk little cities. In Sioux Falls SD the muslims now have 4 mosques as well as their own mosque in AVERA McKeean hospital. Durning their rug kissing sessions, any female nurse going down the hall by their rug rolling sessions must be escourted by a male. Guess it is about time for the Christians to start knocking the goat abusers in the rears and out of here, AVERA is a Catholic hospital open to everyone. If the pervs want to hug a rug 5 times a day, get the hell out of the midwest. I think SD is a CCW and open care state. See the state legislature has a manadtory gun ownership bill in the hopper, for every adult to own a handgun. Go gun ownership and Christians, since it is time to to ship out and clean out the ideology driven sand loving perverts!

    • spitfire

      Wow sorry to hear they are in Souix Falls of all places. I always thought of that city as a nice place to live, and a true center piece of what America is all about. I have not been there for a long time, and it is a good thing I did not move there like I had planned.

      I have a question for you. What happens if a nurse walks down the hall when they are having prayer without a male companion? Who in the hospital and the city for that matter supports this foolishness?

      I guess it should not surprise me, as you have a company there called HTI that is all about liberalism and spreading the disease as fast as possible. That must be what they are doing in Souix Falls.

      If it is happening in a place like Souix Falls, then it is all over for us in America, in addition to every other thing that is currently happening and with the current liberal government we are really doomed as a republic.

    • peter robison

      There is a lot of hate in your comments, I am sure if it was not the muslims, you would find someone else to hate. You must really dislike yourself.

      • bear

        Peter, Can you clarify your statement about Spitfire’s hate? Who is his “hate” directed at? Why does he have this hate and why do you condemn it? Too many things in our society today have been renamed. I.E. Garbage collectors are now sanitation engineers. You call his emotion hate, I call it rage. Rage is not a bad thing. It usually drives us to getting off our dead asses and doing something about a situation that has become intollerable. That’s what I see. I too am outraged at what is happening in our country with these Muslims. Their intent is not peaceful. When they plop down for their prayers, they do it in a manner that disrupts all other’s daily lives and they expect us to stay out of their way and honor them while they have absolutely no regard for the rest of us. The U.K. and France are all but covered up with these people doing as they please and creating huge problems with the flow of daily life. The rest of us worship God in a fashion, within the walls of our churches and synogogues and impose no threat or inconvenience to any others. Why can’t they do the same? Why are we putting up with this crap? This is America, If they want to live here, why can’t they assimilate as our fore fathers have? What the hell makes them so special that we have to change everything about our lives to accomodate them?

      • Brad

        Thanks Bear for putting some perspective in the mix.

      • Al Sieber

        bear, I assume you’re a Christian, a Christian follows the teachings of Jesus Christ who preaches against hate and violence, most people don’t study the scriptures,or live by them. I’ve never met many real Christians in my life.

      • Jana

        Al,
        And you probably wouldn’t recognize one if you did.

      • Al Sieber

        Jana, why are you attacking me on the Christian issue? yes I would know a real Christian if I saw one.

      • bob wire

        Al, it’s the matter of degrees of understanding at play here and I don’t know of anyone that’s a fast study that could gain a encompassing full understanding in 5 years much less 5 months. The study has no end.

        I was provoked with a flaring Christian display to respond on a point, in hopes so light might be offered on Christian posture as offered not only by the Gospels but through out biblical text and was scorned for my efforts.

        Oh well, I did try but like so many other “growing events”, people only listen when they are “ready” to hear. And that being impart, the very reason for solid Christian posture, as it incites this “ready’ness” in others to want to know, to want to listen as they too “want” what you have found. They want your peace, they want your calm.

        If Colonel Sanders went around boosting the nature of his 37 secret herbs and spice recipe and throwing fried chicken legs at everyone that passed by, nobody would buy his chicken. In fact he would be laugh at and make sport of for his behavior even those it might be the best fried chicken you could wrap your lips around.

        Anyway, I wish all the very best while seeing no apology required. But I offer it anyway and wish for Jana what she seeks.

      • Jana

        Al Sieber,
        Again, I do apologize. I was reacting when I shouldn’t have been.

      • Jana

        bob wire,

        Maybe you ought to go back and reread how you came across before you make yourself out to be the victim here.
        You came across that I should not be talking about the Lord or quoting scripture.
        Yes, I attacked on that and probably always will. I feel VERY strongly about this subject.
        I do want to tell you that I appreciate that you have conducted yourself as a gentleman throughout this whole discourse. For that I thank you.
        May we agree to disagree on this subject and move forward?

      • bob wire

        Jana ,It’s a non issue as much now as yesterday. I enjoy you and your posting and want to see your best.

        There is nothing wrong with having a little fire in your spirit and wanting to share your excitement.

        I encourage everyone to be mindful, it’s more powerful then most might believe and only gets stronger the closer to the “way” you learn to walk. As with all power, it comes with responsibility .

        Best Wishes,

      • Jana

        bob,
        Every word you have said in our discourse seems to shout out that you are ashamed of what you say you believe, but at the same time you are trying to present yourself as an authority on a subject that you give the appearance of knowing very little about. This is the same type of trick leftist have been using to try and control others that do not agree with them, so they use manipulations and lies.

        It is evident through your own words that you have never really had a personal relationship with the Lord. With your own words it appears you are religious and a pacifist.

        With your own words you reveal that you are ashamed of everything pertaining to Christianity.

        bob, Christianity is NOT a religion, but is a way of life. You either are, or you are not.

        When you love someone, you don’t hide it. I love my husband and am proud of him and everyone around me knows I love him. I love my God, and am proud of HIM and everyone around me knows it.

        I encourage YOU to be mindful and not to give the appearance of being so ashamed of the LORD our GOD and that means you need to reconsider the way you have learned to walk.

      • bob wire

        Hmmm? Thanks for your response,

        There is no shame. ~ Perhaps we can get what I’m attempting to present in another way.

        Pride is a element of the flesh and of this world. We are attempting to transcend this world in spirit and in mind while still being held captive by the physical world.

        Pride is not truly necessary, but something to surround yourself in,~ your security blanket. If your were strong enough you’d have no need of pride.

        God~ simple is! and so ~ You simple are! shame, pride, honor, are simple manifestation, You create, you make them, ~ God doesn’t, ~

        Can a mountain or an ocean or a bee or a cow be ashamed?

        Are you Jana, a human capable of a spiritual experience.

        or are you a spirit having a human experience?

      • Jana

        bob,
        You truly are a man of many words without meaning.
        There is none so blind as those who will not see.
        again I will reiterate,It is evident through your own words that you have never really had a personal relationship with the Lord. With your own words it appears you are just religious and a pacifist.

      • bob wire

        Well, if that’s what bring you joy Jana, have a pleasant trip.

        Send me a card when you reach your destination so I know you made it safely.

        All roads lead to Rome.

        http://www.tagged.com/dancecard

        We’ve overextended everyone’s indulgence here, forgive the hyjacking folks.

      • 45caliber

        peter:

        Hate is not necessarily a bad thing. It can focus your attention and energy on a bad subject. However, most hate Ive seen (and I’ve seen some from the right) is from the left. Read some of the comments by liberals about Palin for instance. They mystrify me.

        On the other hand hating someone or something does not mean you hate yourself first. I’m not sure where you get that idea.

        One final thing to keep in mind. You are not paranoid if someone really IS out to get you.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45,
        I think that goes just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you!!!

    • spitfire

      How about a reinactment of “Little Big Horn” and the Muslims are the calvary?? That would draw spectators from all over the USA.

      • eddie47d

        Now you want to be a drama Queen with that silliness. Sioux Falls ha a population of 1,270 Muslims. I’m sure it is still a fine city to live in so stop being so scared of everything. I know it’s hard to fathom because Christians aren’t exactly welcomed in the Middle East but we are a better people. We have tolerant laws that welcome a variety of people around the world. I believe in immigration and population control but not because someone is of a different faith or rich or poor.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        The problem with muslims they won’t assimlate to our culture and do not respect our laws, now they expect us to add sharia law to US law, uh no it doesn’t work that way dude. They need to assimulate or go home plain and simple, so do you or go live in a country that loves your train of thought.

      • American Patriot

        Look everyone, Eddy has his panties in a wad again with everyone this fine morning. get a friggin life eddy.

      • eddie47d

        I think it’s more like Brad and AP who have their panties in a wad. Did you both wake up on the wrong side of each other this morning?

      • Brad

        We love proving you wrong dude!

      • eddie47d

        So I’m wrong, because you hate certain people? I doubt that! Go spread your poop somewhere else.

    • Charles C

      bob and Jana, you take whatever space you need to discuss these things, there’s no reason to apologize.

      This conversation began with i41. I do not agree with the way he presented his case, which was pretty much against muslims. I think it is right to state what you believe clearly, and that political correctness is a stupid facade, but is there not an opposite to that as well? Is it not possible to be overly offensive? Hate can be a good thing, only when it is hate of evil. Hating people themselves just because of the religion they believe in is not right. Did Paul the apostle hate the people he witnessed to, who were of a different religion? Maybe the word hate has come to have a different meaning today. An accurate way to describe hate would be how God views sin. God does not tolerate sin in His presence. God hates sin so much that even His own creation, mankind, does not have a place in His presence if they are spotted with sin. But God loved us, His creation, so much, that He sent His Son – the God of heaven and earth sent His Son – to suffer and die in our place, to wash us, and make us clean in God’s presence. Not just Jews, not just Gentiles. Not just Americans, not just Arabians, not just people who recite the Bible in Latin. The Son of God came for His creation, mankind. That is what I believe.

      Now I’m going to ask a question – Are we as Christians responsible for making sure no muslims reside in this country? Personally, I don’t believe so. Are we supposed to preserve the fundamentals of this country? If God calls us to it, we had better. If in any way in our everyday lives God shows us ways we can, definitely. I believe we should stand up for what we know is the truth about our country. But I don’t believe we do so by discriminating against people of a certain ethnicity or religion. We are not fighting against them. We are fighting against what they believe. That does not mean we do not punish people when they do something contrary to the laws of this country. But I don’t believe we are supposed to preemptively rid this nation of people we suspect will do us harm. Speculation can go as far as the craziest speculator will take it. And who will the nation be rid of by the end?

    • Charles C

      bob and Jana, you take whatever space you need to discuss these things, there’s no reason to apologize.

      This conversation began with i41. I do not agree with the way he presented his case, which was pretty much against muslims. I think it is right to state what you believe clearly, and that political correctness is a stupid facade, but is there not an opposite to that as well? Is it not possible to be overly offensive? Hate can be a good thing, only when it is hate of evil. Hating people themselves just because of the religion they believe in is not right. Did Paul the apostle hate the people he witnessed to, who were of a different religion? Maybe the word hate has come to have a different meaning today. An accurate way to describe hate would be how God views sin. God does not tolerate sin in His presence. God hates sin so much that even His own creation, mankind, does not have a place in His presence if they are spotted with sin. But God loved us, His creation, so much, that He sent His Son – the God of heaven and earth sent His Son Jesus Christ – to suffer and die in our place, to wash us, and make us clean in God’s presence. Not just Jews, not just Gentiles. Not just Americans, not just Arabians, not just people who recite the Bible in Latin, and not just those who reject everything having to do with tradition. The Son of God came for His creation, mankind. That is what I believe.

      Now I’m going to ask a question – Are we as Christians responsible for making sure no muslims reside in this country? Personally, I don’t believe so. Are we supposed to preserve the fundamentals of this country? If God calls us to it, we had better. If in any way in our everyday lives God shows us ways we can, definitely. I believe we should stand up for what we know is the truth about our country. But I don’t believe we do so by discriminating against people of a certain ethnicity or religion. We are not fighting against them. We are fighting against what they believe. That does not mean we do not punish people when they do something contrary to the laws of this country. But I don’t believe we are supposed to preemptively rid this nation of people we suspect will do us harm. Speculation can go as far as the craziest speculator will take it. And who will the nation be rid of by the end?

      “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
      Nor are your ways My ways”, says the
      Lord.
      “For as the heavens are higher than the
      earth,
      So are My ways higher than your ways,
      And My thoughts than your thoughts.”

      Isaiah 55:8-9

      • Charles C

        sorry, I kind of posted the same thing twice

      • Jana

        Thank you Charles C.,
        We don’t mind anyone coming into our country who is willing to assimilate into our country. What we do mind is someone coming into our country to take over our country. That is where the big difference is.
        There are many good and wonderful people that happen to be Muslims residing in our country. I don’t believe these wonderful people are discriminated against. The radical Islamists are the ones we have to watch out for. We must not allow them to take over our country and force us turn to their religion.

  • robbe

    This cowboy doesnt even have a clue of geography thought in primary schools..The flag is not egypt but Turkish flag..!! Besides Egypt doesnt sit across between Europe and middle east but Turkey..
    I dont get involve more of his nonsense talks..
    Shame for the management that publish this kind of articles without any control

    • Tazio2013

      robbe,

      It’s refreshing to read something from someone who displays his ignorance so openly.

      • Tinman

        tazio2013, go home and stuff your face with pork. You little child molester!

      • Al Sieber

        Tin, is it necessary to resort to name calling?

  • SteveB

    If America is going to be able to survive in this world and be a leader, we better start taking steps to be strong and independent….instead of at the mercy of the oil producing countries. We have the resources….let’s use them. We have the brains….let’s use them. What we don’t have is strong leaders.
    In the words of Teddy Roosevelt,”speak softly….but carry a big stick”! He knew that was the only language some people understand….and that’s the only language these radical muslims understand as well. We’re so afraid of looking like “Bullies” to the rest of the world that we resort to “diplomatic butt-kissing”….thinking we’ll gain cooperation with these extremists.
    We better start being more self sufficient before these threats are once again at our doorstep….or, not only won’t we carry a big stick….we won’t have any stick at all. Let’s get rid of Obahma and Hillary Clinton and get someone with real courage, experience and backbone…..and above all “foresight”!

    • http://deleted Claire

      SteveB–Whom do you have in mind that has real courage, experience, backbone and foresight?

      • SteveB

        My pick would have been Norman Swartzgopf….but he’s out of the picture now.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Good pick.

    • Sam

      He has bad hair and a world class ego, but Donald Trump is a tough, shrewed businessman and loves this country, we need him. The other republican potential candidates, except for Palin, are too anxious to compromise with the liberal/progressive/socialist democrats.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Sam– Bad hair?!! LOL I would vote for Trump–he couldn’t be any worse than what we have had in the past or the future.

      • Jana

        Sam,
        I have listened to Trump and he sure does have a lot of wisdom. He has business savvy and has a way of getting things done. He has a lot of common sense. So far from what I know, and his life is pretty much an open book, I would vote for him too.

      • JLC

        Jana — He also knows how to say “You’re fired!” For the man at the top. that is a plus!

      • spitfire

        We need a real “Dirty Harry”! For love of country. GOd we need your help more than ever before. I hope you are in a helping mood!

      • Jana

        spitfire,
        The One True God has given us authority over evil. The sad thing is those of us who knew better have set back and allowed God to be taken out of our schools, and out of our courtrooms and if it were possible out of our entire land. Thankfully with Obama’s help we have been awakened.
        We are learning our lessons and calling on The One True God in earnest as well as we are making a stand.
        When we allow God to be taken out of our land, His hand of protection that He has had over us all of these years, is being lifted. We who know the TRUTH can make a difference by putting God actively back into our lives and actions and not let God be eradicated from this country. The rest of the people can just enjoy the benefits.

      • kate8

        Jana – Good post.

        The one place from which they can’t remove God is our hearts and minds. That is where it matters the most.

        When people no longer honor Him or value his Ways, corruption ensues. That is why tyrants always work to turn people from the ways of goodness and knowledge of His Presence, because this is the only way they can assume power. True people of God will never bow to tyrants.

        Unfortunately, most organized churches have already bowed, and are complicit in holding people captive to the Beast system. It is the acceptance of this in people’s hearts that is the real abomination of desolation, as WE are the true temples of God.

        The way to bring God back is from within US. And we are many.

      • bob wire

        Jana, you seem to attempting to speak for a lot of people besides yourself this morning. Now you might well find an amen, and spotted support for such talk and some of it I might even agree with.

        But speaking like the voice from the burning bush is a real turn off for many people.

        Just saying, your subjectivity is waning and interfering with your message.

      • Jana

        Whats the matter bob? Truth too much for ya?

      • bob wire

        well if the truth being “We’ve learned” I suppose so Jana.

        “I’ve” learned there is good reason for separation of church and state and if anything,~ this “Islam” scourge should bring that “reason” into sharp focus for everyone to see the pitfall of failing to keep clergy and matters of the spirit out of government business.

        The very nature of each is to grow and intertwine, requiring constant pruning at the protest of the most righteous.

      • Jana

        Then bob, you truly haven’t learned anything. You are to be pitied.

      • kate8

        Jana – You go girl.

        You know you’re doing good when you provoke posters like b w.

      • bob wire

        Oh I’m learned to be careful with self proclaimed righteous people that are quick to offer the “WORD” when it was NEVER solicited. But since you insist~

        What is stopping anyone for conducting themselves and living an example of their beliefs without the need of dropping a tag line where they got their insightful wisdom?

        Is there some fear of possibly being confused with an infidel or being seen as simple wrong? I don’t think so.

        Why the need to openly proclaim being Christian when it not necessary and not being solicited is what I ask.

        If I were to claim 5×5=25 because I attended Gorden Elementary school, doesn’t enhance my statement regardless where I got the belief. It is enough to be simply ~ CORRECT.

        You are exhibiting a unnecessary proud’ness, a virtue your very bible has warned us about.

        It is for us to live the example that identity’s us and our good works. To incite people to search for what is different about us that they too might wish to have what we enjoy.

        Isaiah 5:21
        Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.

        Matthew 6:5-6

        “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

        Mark 1:35

        And rising very early in the morning, while it was still dark, he departed and went out to a desolate place, and there he prayed.

        A man’s pride brings him low, but a man of lowly spirit gains honor. Proverbs 29:23

        Living a Christian life has never been easy, and we all blunder and fall short. But it’s something to live and strive for every waking moment.

      • Al Sieber

        BobW, like that, Matthew:6:5-6, not to many Christians know that passage or follow it.

      • Jana

        bob and al,
        I know you both think you are very cute, but you are not.
        No one on this site has been praying that I know of.
        You see, when you heart is full of deception and lies and evil it comes out in what you say.
        Jesus himself said in :
        Matthew 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
        35. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
        36.But I say to unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37. for by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

        I love the Lord my God with all of my heart. I dwell in and study The Word. I will continue to speak as I have. If you don’t like it or don’t approve all I can say is YOUR BAD, not mine. No one is forcing you to read my postings. You do not mock me, you are mocking God.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        bob wire n Al,
        Jana is simply witnessing! The Lord commands us to not hide our light under a basket but to let it shine in the night and curse the darkness!! Go Jana, LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE!!!!

      • bob wire

        “Jana is simply witnessing! The Lord commands us to not hide our light under a basket but to let it shine in the night and curse the darkness!! Go Jana, LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE!!!!”

        Thanks Joe, and I do understand and have no desire to attack but direct. Jana is just not accepting it with the intent I offered it. Rather then completely ignoring her, I chose to interface with her in matter of point and for that she offered me her pity.

        Letting you light shine is something to “see” and in deed it can be seen without proclamation if it’s the real deal. There is no need for public display, jubilation or open Praises to the Lord. ~ It’s a given, a known factor by Christians. Don’t wallow in GOD for all to see. Offer reverence to God in your homes and places of worship or among known fellow Christians.

        If you desire attention, you whisper, you create a condition where people thirst to know. People tend to run from people that openly display righteousness, and speak as “we”, separating themselves from others. It is very polarizing and not the Christian way, the way of Christ, to walk the example for all to see, to be not afraid, to be not offended. You cannot be offended if you are right in the Lord. It’s impossible.

        Only after you have walk it, only then might you talk it well.

        I have only Jana’s best interest at heart, and I hope not only she but everyone that might indulge me, strive to understand the message offered by Matthew. It will only made you a stronger more understanding Christian and lighten your daily burden.

        “wide is the path and narrow is the way” and that’s no joke.

        You and I will fail, ~ seems I do everyday, but I don’t stop trying to get it right and I hope you are as well.

      • Al Sieber

        Jana, I wasn’t attacking you, I was just agreeing with BobW on the bible passage.

      • Jana

        Bob,
        You are right, I did NOT take what you were saying as, in the attempt that you say you were saying it in. You in essence were telling me not to bring God’s Word into the subject. A polite way to say shut up if you are going to bring up God or HIS word in the subject.
        ************
        You stated:

        I’ve” learned there is good reason for separation of church and state and if anything,~ this “Islam” scourge should bring that “reason” into sharp focus for everyone to see the pitfall of failing to keep clergy and matters of the spirit out of government business.

        The very nature of each is to grow and intertwine, requiring constant pruning at the protest of the most righteous.”************

        The problem is now that we have left God out of the subject for too long.

        Also, the passages you were bringing up are about praying. I have not been on this site reciting prayers.

        It is NOT possible to keep God out of Gov’t business. God has had His hand of protection over this country BECAUSE we were founded in HIM. We have been eradicating HIM out of our country and out of our lives. Now we have schools that are totally out of control, children killing children. Our morals have gone down the drain. Our country has been weakened to a dangerous point. People who serve a false god are moving into our midst to take us over and we are letting them. We have abandoned God, told HIM to get out, so now His protection is being lifted from us.
        If you cannot comprehend this, then you truly are not as smart as I thought you were, nor as wise as you think you are.

        Maybe you need to spend a little more time in your closet of prayer listening.

        As I said before, with the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. I do take time daily to study the Word. I do go to my closet of prayer and pray. However, the Bible also states if we be ashamed of Jesus then He will be ashamed of us. We can turn our country around with GOD’S help, but we must NEVER be ashamed of HIM.

      • Jana

        Bob,
        Concerning your last post,
        To whisper and hide your faith may be your calling, but it happens to be my whole life, and is NOT my calling. We are not all feet, nor all we are fingers, nor all eyes, but they are all part of the body. We each have different functions.

        I do not consider myself righteous as that may be what you consider yourself, but I am someone who is a student of the Word of God. I will never outgrow my need to study or pray.
        As you said,”You cannot be offended if you are right in the Lord. It’s impossible.”
        I am sorry I offended you by bringing God into the subject. I am sorry the Truth of what Jesus himself said offended you. Your own words labeled you.

      • Jana

        Al Sieber,
        I apologize.

      • LES

        A business man like Trump would be an excellant choice, we have had mostly lawyers and look where that has got us.

    • eddie47d

      Steve;Your another one who wants to take from the Muslim world and by any means possible. That has left millions in poverty and a handful of egomaniacs and trillionaires running these countries.That has been a recipe for disaster and for several Presidents. It’s time for a change in the way we do business.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Steve said nothing of the sort, you’re just putting words in other peoples mouth, what a good ol lefty has been trained to do. Steve wants to see this country strong and prossperuss again. Yes Steve is right, there are times when we need to speak softly and cary a very big stick.

      • eddie47d

        He sure did and he would be more than happy to bully another nation to get what he wants. He wants to play conquer like Teddy Roosevelt by kicking Spain out of Cuba and taking over the Philippines. Different era same motive. The Philippines more or less worked out but Cuba was a disaster. We over react to everything and sometimes we win and sometimes we loose.

      • Jana

        eddie,
        What Steve said was we can’t be afraid to look bullies in the face. There is a vast difference between being bullied and being a coward. He said nothing about bullying anyone else.

      • Brad

        Edwardo needs a history lesson,

        McKinley was President when the US declared war on Spain. Cuba started revolting against spanish rule in 1895, the following year 1896 the phillapines revolted against spanish rule. In 1898 when the USS MAINE was at anchor in Havana Harbor when a huge explosion ripped open the ship killing 266 US sailors. The US declared war on spain, in turn the US came to the aid of cuba and the phillapines and helped kick the spanards out. Cuba was a free country until the communist took over in the 50′s. The phillapines have been free except for a short take over by japan from 1941-45. In 1898 TR was a army officer and lead the ruff riders up san jaun hill never a crusader/conquerer. Dude you need to get your history right before you spout off at the mouth, you make yourself look stupid to many who read this blog.

      • eddie47d

        So I gave the shorter version but thanks for the history lesson. Most Americans by now know that ship wasn’t attacked by Spain but blew up by spontaneous combustion in the magazine hold. We didn’t think back then either and just reacted by beating the war drums. Kind of like we did in the Gulf of Tonkin to get the Vietnam War going. More over reacting to achieve something we had our eye on but couldn’t achieve diplomatically.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        you complain about the war with Spain and TR. Keep in mind that the war was fought for the same reason Iraq is fought now – to free the poor from oppression by the rich. And TR was a liberal. (A very stupid reason to me but then, I think the oppressed should fight their own wars.)

        Incidently take a look at why we got into WWI and WWII. In both cases, our politicans deliberately set about fooling the public into allowing them to declare war so we could rush to help people getting the s*** kicked out of them. Was it a good idea or not? I’m still not sure. We just have to live with what did happen, just like we have to live with what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan now. We certainly can’t wave a magic wand and put everything back the way it was before 9/11, now can we?

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        You told steve our policy with the Muslims was wrong. Is it? Why did we get into WWII? We didn’t have to when we did. We certainly didn’t know about the concentration camps or what they were doing then. It is in hindsight that we realize we did a good thing to stop that. Is it now a bad thing to do the same thing?

      • eddie47d

        At the time we could have cared diddly squat about the Jews in Germany. We were out to save England and France and other reasons. The Jews were only an emotional afterthought and yes their plight should have been on our radar. Then we should be concerned about those imprisoned by Mubarak,Assad,or the Saudis or how about those in Yemen or Sudan. There should also be more support for Amnesty International who exposes what is going on in these countries. But wait! This site has said they are a liberal group so close your eyes and pretend that there isn’t anyone in Syrian jails or Iran or Egypt. The plight of the Jews didn’t seem important and these “new” governments know they can get away with what they are doing behind closed doors. Who cares until after the fact!Sadly their plight isn’t worth a full blown war and few nations are willing to boycott these dictators. We must find new ways to deal with rouge nations but Conservatives hate diplomacy. It seems to always come down to staying out of other countries business or more war.

  • http://google.com mathilda

    It is a shame for the goverment to keeps the american farmer down, not growing crops, as I see alot of land that was used to have cotton, ect. now is just a pasture, as the goverment pays them to keep us from not growing stuff. If the farmer had its way we would be the number one on the planet on growing and shipping produce and other markets, we would be number one, now we are depending on othe countries. Like the canal, they are saying if it falls we are in trouble. Well,Egypt should have a president like other countries, vote them in and then vote them out. If they try to be a dictator, take them out, and vote someone else in there. Muslims are spreading like ants around the world. This is a planned thing, so they can take over the world. Obama’s faith is muslim and the people made the mistake of putting him in there, now we have to get him out before it’s too late. And as far as these wars go, why are we fooling around, we have the ability and the ways of getting them. We should go in, take out, and get the war over with. Seems this is another vietnam war, don’t make anybody mad, and hold back. IF US made a statement, we don’t fool around, and back it up, other countries won’t be so happy to mess with us.

  • Tazio2013
    • spitfire

      Tazio2013. May I ask you a serious question? What country are you from??

      • eddie47d

        spitfire;Are you against freedom and democracy(republic)? Do you value your rights but want to suppress other peoples desires to want the same things you have? Do you look at other nations and expect them to bow down to us? Nor should we to them! Are you one to look at another country and say they are not like us so let’s exploit them? They are poorer and that give us a right to use them to satisfy our needs? Do we treat them with respect when we are doing business with them? Do we allow their governments to be corrupt or insincere about helping their own people;as long as we get what we want? Depending on how you answer those questions will determine how you really feel about freedom and America itself. These questions could relate to any country and to even those countries that use and abuse us.

      • Brad

        Right now Edwardo, I believe you would undo all our freedoms and cowtow to the worlds dictators. America has the utmost respect for other country’s but we won’t take crap off of another country trying to bully us or our friends.

      • eddie47d

        Then stop bulling them! That is a two way street and what they have isn’t ours and what we have isn’t theirs. Treat them fair and square and expect the same from them.If they don’t want to play nice then we can always come home. Rather simple actually.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        That’s where you don’t get it, the US is the most giving nation on this earth, what you call a two street I agree with. Communication has to be two way, we put our best foot forward and have had it stomped on so many times but when the shoe is on the other foot we will welcome the other country with open arms, so the two way street doesn’t go both ways. I spent 20 year’s in the US Navy and never did I see the military or the US diplomatic corps bully another nation unless it was an enemy, ie: Iraq 90-91. In 2003 a lot of anti-war protestors were making the claim we where in Iraq for the oil; today how much Iragi oil has the US taken from them? Its simple dude NONE, NODA, NOTHING.

      • eddie47d

        We aren’t getting the oil from Iraq because too many wells were damaged in the war. Iraq can’t even rebuild these wells and get them up to capacity.That is why we aren’t getting the oil we were expecting.

      • Brad

        Come again edwardo,

        Iraq in 2010 had been producing approximately 2.0 million barrels a day. Try again friend

      • eddie47d

        Pray tell where that oil is going then?

      • JeffH

        Iraq: BP, Chinese win lucrative oil contract
        July 1, 2009
        BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Iraq awarded a lucrative oil contract to BP and China National Petroleum Corp., government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Wednesday, while rejecting other companies’ offers for other oil fields.

        The joint BP-CNPC bid was for the al-Rumeila oil field, one of the largest in the world. The energy companies are expected to increase production at the oil field by 50 percent, to 285,000 barrels a day, for a service charge of $2 for each additional barrel produced, al-Dabbagh said in a statement.

        The Iraqi government rejected bids for five other oil fields and a natural gas field because the bidders did not agree to the service charge set by the Ministry of Oil, he said.

        Iraq plans to open bidding this year on 10 more oil fields and one natural gas field, all of which are undeveloped, Jihad said.
        http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/07/01/iraq.oil.contracts/index.html

      • JeffH

        Iraq Targets 12 Million Barrels a Day, Defers OPEC Quota Limits
        Bloomberg – March 16, 2010
        Iraq expects to produce 12 million barrels of oil a day within seven years and won’t even discuss OPEC quotas until 2012 as output accelerates after years of conflict, the country’s oil minister said.

        Iraq produced 2.39 million barrels a day, according to Bloomberg estimates.
        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aj5r0M3eA4UM

      • eddie47d

        Good information Jeff but rather sad that China got the bid and not the USA.

      • JeffH

        eddie, and take note that it was a joint venture, BP-China.

      • Tazio2013

        spitfire,

        Republic of Texas; home of Ron Paul and the Libertarians.

        Semper fi!

      • Al Sieber

        I agree with that, Ron Paul is where it’s at.

  • Ray

    Why is anyone suprised at Obama’s silence?
    The only thing he has done in his life is talk, talk, talk – without a clue of what means.

  • Jack54

    Subject…If it wasn`t for our leaders…the majority of all people on this earth would be friends!

    A long time ago I was watching a program on PBS…on the Trans Siberian Railroad…it was taking place during the early 1970`s…before the end of the Soviet Union…a young German couple were taking a trip on the Trans Siberian Railroad…a trip on this railroad was more of a pack/bring your own excursion than the wine and dine of western world transportation…the young German couple brought their own beer, wine, bread etc. for the trip…as did others taking this trip…the German couple met Russians etc…during the trip the Germans became friends with Russians…they learned to share together…to put past biases behind them regarding the war of destruction intiated by Hitler…

    Personally, I have worked for Islamic owned businesses…and have worked with Islamic people…the people with the cash…the owners…they cling to the old Islamic ways…why?…because it gives them total control…even a little more so than the curent US politically correct system of capitalism…

    I worked with this young engineer named Ali…he was my computer scheduler…he was foreign born from Mauritius…he graduated from a college in Michigan…the Islamic owners who hired him did not pay him very well…he was renting a room…I told him he could move in with me…I had a large (3) floor townhouse…I lived in the bottom floor with my dog Morgan…Morgie the Corgi…the bottom floor had its own bathroom/shower, carpeting, was cooler and Morgie could run around on the carpet covered concrete floor without creating a noise problem…

    Anyhow, according to Islam…dogs are evil…dogs devoured Mohammeds carcuss…also, Islam forbids the drinking of beer and eating of pork…within a month after Ali had moved into my townhouse…he was drinking beer…eating pork that we grilled on the barbeque…and walking my dog…and loved it…he was becoming a western world American…of course the Islamic group accused me of corrupting him…too bad…I told them that in the US Ali has these freedoms…although a business owner in the US can essentially terminate your employment at will…

    In watching CNN and the current uprising in the Middle East…I sense that most of the people have a desire to live in a Democracy…to be friends with westerners…most of the Islamics I worked with had this same desire…but there was always the fear of the more radical owners…the fear of conforming to the doctrines of Islam forced upon them by the owners/leaders who benefit from the dictatorship focus it allows them…

    Have a nice day

    • Jana

      Jack54,
      That was a beautiful example of the truth. There are a lot of Muslims who truly good people. Also, a lot of Muslims just want to partake of the freedoms this country gives them.
      The problem with Islam is they are about control. You will notice that you will hardly ever hear from a Muslim/Islamic woman. They would not be allowed on these sites, nor are they supposed to have an opinion other than what her husband believes, let alone express it.

      • BobbyB

        There are some christians that are the same way

      • Cawmun Cents

        Make no mistake,here under the Christian God,you have freedom to complain,be homosexual,adulterers,thieving,owning firearms,speaking out in public.A Christian may not like you doing these things and may try to get you to stop,but the Muslims will just kill you all.They will smile at you leftist and act your friend.But as soon as they make the laws they will cull you like a nun culls a bad habit.You have the choice out there you leftist scum,who is going to be your God?Theirs or ours?You make the choice and live with it.Because you damn sure will die with it if you choose wrongly.You may hate Christians,but you know us.You dont know anything about the muslims and how you will be treated once they attain power over you.One or the other make your choice now…let us know who do you trust?That way we know who is for America and who is against America.

  • Victoria DeLacy

    It is not all that surprising that Obama refuses to intervene against practitioners of Islam no matter how radical they may be, given that his actual convictions were on display in recent years as he rejected traditional observances of the National Day of Prayer in the White House for the first time ever yet had no aversion to embracing an observance of the Muslim Ramadan. We have seen where his empathies dwell, and that is unfortunately NOT with Christianity. We will hopefully see a change to more appropriate leadership with a new Commander-in-Chief to be elected to that position from the Republican side in 2012. In the meanwhile, time to PRAY per II Chronicles 7:14.

    • Jana

      Victoria DeLacy,
      EXACTLY.

      We know him by his actions, and we know him by the company he keeps.

  • Richard

    What is Obama good for besides the oppression of the American people? I wish we had John Bolton in the White House!

    • eddie47d

      Compared to what? You sound like another childish spoiled American who wants more and more and then you still aren’t satisfied! You may be depressed but stop depressing the rest of us.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        We want commonsence leadership not far left or far right leadership that’s going no where fast. Bolton, Trump these guys would provide commonsence leadership that this country dearly needs.

      • eddie47d

        The Denver Post,National News. Your attacks against “greenies” doesn’t cut it with this one and seldom does.

      • Brad

        Sorry Edwardo have to bust your bubble again,

        From the denverpost 11/17/2010 Cash-strapped Colo. state parks MAY open up to more oil, gas drilling. Goggled the story I did.

        Read it and weap edwardo they MAY open up oil and natural gas drilling, so it hasn’t happened yet, get your facts strait dude.

      • Brad

        By the way Colorados state legislature has to approve any type drilling, they’re going to consider it but it hasn’t happened yet.

      • eddie47d

        You didn’t burst my bubble for it had nothing to do with Rocky Mountain National Park. These wells are in Weld County Colorado and the permits have been approved.

      • Brad

        Again Edwardo wheres your proof,

        That’s right you have none, at the end of 2010 weld county held only 36% approved drilling leases where as garfield county held 34% of the leases totaling less than 1800 proposed wells. There were a total of 36 active drilling rigs working those 1800 leases. The high was 2888 in 2008 and has fallen the last two years to the 1800 level. There has been only one organization to strike light sweet crude and that was back in Feb. 2010. So where are the 3000 rigs you are talking about percounty?

      • eddie47d

        Weld County is one county and all 3,000 permits were issued for that county. There may be more in other counties but I don’t have the figures.

  • Ron

    The UNited States Government needs to keep its nose out of every other countries business.We fight their wars & what does it change?Nothing.The US is becoming the laughing stock of the world.We help them & what do we get in return?Suicide bombers,leftist radicals,higher oil prices.It is a pity we let the environmental nuts run the oil supplies here.The US has enough oil in the ground right here to turn the tide on the countries that we are depending on right now for crude.Dismantle OPEC,bring the foreign aid money back to who it really belongs to, US,drill,drill,drill.Get the egotistical nuts out of the White House & get someone in that will not drain the working US citizen of every last dime we have.Signed:A GOD fearing,Gun toting US citizen like many more that are fed up with doing without!!!!!!!!!!

    • JIBBS

      Then tell your buddy Barry, to let us drill for our own oil ! Oh yeah, he wont let us. Would you like to be President of the SHEEPLE club ?

      • eddie47d

        Since you want to go off subject. They opened up 3,000 wells in Colorado so they are indeed drilling for oil and natural gas. That is all in just one county so now they have 18,000 well heads working.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Whats your source, the greenies would have been all over the opening of 3000 so called oil wells in Colorado?

    • Jana

      Ron,
      You are so right. We should be using our own natural resources while working on new energy ideas. We need to get off of being dependent on other countries.
      I heard a man talking about the fact that they used to issue permits to search and drill, one every three days. Now they issue one every 30 days, and if all of the i’s are not dotted or t’s crossed correctly, you are denied and your new request goes to the bottom of the pile. The oil rigs are leaving to go to other countries.

    • spitfire

      Ron from a diehard conservative, I will say you are mostly correct, except about us messing in other countries business. Really think about that for a few minutes and see if you can tell what would have happened if we had done what you suggest since lets say WWII? We are and have been the “worlds police department”. The world, like any city, needs a police department. WE have chosen to be that police department to provide us with our security and standard of living. It is not that we care so much about the rest of the world, it is that we care more about ourselves and America.

      Imagine what will happen if that police department is taken away. Its really scary for sure.

      • BobbyB

        And that’s the problem. I don’t recall anyone asking us to be the worlds policeman and I’ve been here for 57 years. When the new Boogie Man, the Islamofascist came to being, those desiring their destruction claimed that Hate us for our freedom. That’s not the case. Those that hate us hate us for our meddling. They hate us for the millions of innocents we have killed to enable our business interest around the world.
        If we are the worlds policeman, we have failed miserably.

  • Tazio2013

    And for those very few followers of John Meyers/Glenn Beck who are sufficiently intelligent to comprehend the current situation in Egypt, read this for a knowledgeable POV based on principles of objective reality:

    http://www.thedailybell.com/1731/Middle-East-Dreamtime.html

    • Jana

      Tazio,
      I knew it! You are a Muslim. This site is a Muslim / Islamic site. They blame us for EVERYTHING.
      An unnamed source even declares we have had secret meetings with their youth to start these uprisings.

      • Tazio2013

        Jana,

        Google “objective reality” and get back to me when you grow a brain.

      • Brad

        Tazio,

        Get back to us when you have some “objective reality”

    • spitfire

      Tazio are you able to make your own mind up on a subject, without reading another mans opinion???? Is a book another mans opinion,or fact??

      • eddie47d

        You are right yet most on this site bring up far right threads and say they are the gospel.They aren’t always truthful either.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Two wrongs don’t make a right, at times the truth hurts no matter where it comes from.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        This from Mr huff n toke himself eddie!! Again, HYPOCRITE!!!

  • Moby

    Bob, you do know Mubarak was there for thirty years, right? He came to power when Reagan did. So why don’t Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II have any responsibility for this dictator’s rule? Admit it, they were all fine with him just like Reagan was okay with Saddam Hussein because he was a bulwark against Iran. Singling out Obama is just another sign that either you don’t know history or just like to distort it for your own purposes.

    • eddie47d

      Well said and it’s getting rather old.

  • Karolyn

    Well, today the pro-Mubarak protesters are fighting in the streets. No one really knows what will happen. It’s up to the Egyptians.

    • bob wire

      kinda like it should be don’t you think Karolyn?

      Let’s the meanest, most determined dog win.

    • Michael J.

      Karolyn,
      Not pro-Mubarak protestors, rather Mubarak mercenaries. We’ve seen this movie before, non-uniformed government thugs sent in to disperse the crowds. Straight from the Iranian Mullah’s handbook, “crowd suppression for dummies”.

      • Karolyn

        I was amazed at the Mubarak supporters attacking American reporters. I just thought to myself “What a-holes.” Don’t they know that the US has been a Mubarak supporter? I guess they’re just ignorant sycophants. Nobody had any problems with the anti-Mubarak people. They were all peaceful. It figures.

  • Tazio2013

    John Meyers continues to channel Glenn Beck so, suggest that all you crusading christian, white wing wackos relax and take another sip of Fox Noise Kool-ade. Eighty million plus Egyptians just want a bit of freedom from the tyrant Mubarak that the Republikrats maintained in power for thirty years . Maybe this will cause the Ashkenazi Israelis to start thinking and acting like decent human beings. Definitely a drama worth knowing on the Internet.

    • rosina

      tHIRTY YEARS OF REPUBLICANS????
      GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Check your history and you will see that in the last thirty years, the demoncraps ruled the roost for MOST OF IT in the Congress.

      • Tazio2013

        rosina,

        Wake up; the operative word is “Republikrats”. FYI, the US has had one party rule since 1913. Do you understand the meaning of “Hegelian Dialectic”?

      • Al Sieber

        Tazio,I understand exactly what you’re talking about.

      • spitfire

        My question to both Al Sieber and Tazio 2013 is do you believe in “Hegelian Dialectic”?

      • Tazio2013

        Thanks, Al; it appears that there are only a few of us “Onepercenters” who actually think before we write.
        The vast majority of these crusading christian, white wing wacko, PLD pinheads can only regurgitate the palin beck/fox noise nonsense.

      • Michael J.

        Tazio,
        OK, that’s your thesis, But my antithesis is that news and knowledge are where you find them. It’s the job of each of us to synthesize.

      • Brad

        Tazio,

        So you think before you write, how do you know all of us are “white wing radicals” it sounds as if you are being racist? You must be a black left wing radical, am I being racist or does the truth hurt!

      • Dr. Mabuse

        Yo Spit,
        Its not a question of belief. The dialectic is an algorithm.
        It seems to be working if one uses 1913 as the point of reference.
        Didn’t Stanky Bernanke say he wasn’t gonna reveal where the money went to? I wonder what the “solution” for that is?

      • Al Sieber

        So Spitfire and Brad, I’m suppose to agree with you guys and disregard what Tazio says? you need to read history regarding the Federal Reserve, which was established around Christmas 1913, you need to read “The History of the Money Changers” by A. Hitchcock and get away from the right left paradigm. also F.D. Roosevelt was a SOB, he really escalated the Socialist take over of the U.S.. the problems we have now are a result of the Fed. Reserve and complacency.

      • http://timesays dave

        YOU !!!! Mr Tazio and your ilk are the ones that need to wake up. You come on here spouting off about issues that it is obvious you dont have a clue about. There hasnt been anyone from isreal in the last 50 years strapping a bomb to their waist and going out and blowing up innocent civilians!!! You seem to have an intense hatred for Israel and the jewish people as well as for conservative principles and i would think after 40 years of the cancer of liberalism in this world people would have finally had enough of it . The rulers of most middle eastern nations came into power while liberal democraps ruled in this country.
        Jana has it exactly right about you Tazio.

      • Dr. Mabuse

        Can you explain to me the difference between an Israeli Jew and a Israeli Zionist?

      • Al Sieber

        Dr. Mabuse, I can explain the difference, but it would take several pages, and I always get in trouble on this website. people that want to know can go to “iamthewitness.com. people are to sensitive to this issue and are brain washed by political correctness which started under the Clinton Adm.

      • Al Sieber

        dave, if you think Israel is such a innocent country then you need to do some research, I’ve been over there a few times, and seen things I didn’t believe, and they suppress their own people, they are not a Democracy, they’re a Theocracy and they have great influence in our Govt., there’s a difference between Zionists, and the Jewish people, there are Christian Zionists also, take the time to find out. I’ll probably take a lot of “Flack” for this post but, I can handle it.

      • Jana

        rosina,
        You are so right. Tazio sounds like he is a Muslim coming from Islam and will try to say anything to cause a bad reaction. The democrats are being infiltrated by Islam. They are just pawns in their hands.

    • Zoey

      I feel sorry for you, all you Democrats know how to do is name call and point the finger of blame at anyone but yourselves. I think that the president is a Muslim at heart, that is how he was raised and schooled in his younger years. He studied the Koran. So he is at odds with this whole situation, he doesn’t know how to react. He doesn’t want to upset the Muslims and he’s walking on thin ice. However, he is NOW the president of the US., and he must get his priorities straight. He needs to stand up and say we will not tolerate The Brotherhood of Muslims or any radical group running the middle east.This is an extremely dangerous situation, we need strong leadership!! I feel bad for us all, Democrats and Repubs alike, because a man was voted in who had no world experience at all,and with Muslim roots. He just doesn’t know who to side with. This is a mistake that we most likely will come to regret when world war three starts or the radicals go in to destroy Israel and we have to choose sides. I just want to make some honest points and not name call like you have chosen to do. We need to unite and do what is right for “OUR COUNTRY”.

      • eddie47d

        All too often “taking sides”,especially with international situations is a code word for war. Maybe it’s time to stop taking sides and stay out of the business of other peoples business. We will still be friends with Egypt if we play our cards right. It can’t come down for their people to choose pro-American or Anti-American so the decisions must be on them.

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        Agreed, We’ll leave you alone if you go somewhere else to do your business instaed of all over this thread.

      • eddie47d

        Another censorship cop.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        eddie,
        I didn’t see anything about censorship in Michael J’s post to you. I have seen a news story about your hero Nobama wanting a killswitch for the internet and I haven’t seen you arguing against it. HYPOCRITE!!!!!

    • Tinman

      Yes and Real Americans want a break form the freeloaders. We would like to keep our money that we work for. Not give it in the name of taxes to freeloading libatards who want to pass it around to the lazy ones.
      “DOWN WITH THE EAGLE UP WITH THE CROSS”

  • http://Yahoo Anne Crickenberger

    Has it entered anyone’s mind that Obama may be fueling this mess in Egypt. I know the Islamic radicals are just waiting to get in and take over Egypt. This is the Islamic terrorists’ goal to spread Islamic law over the entire globe and I don’t care what (so call peace loving Muslims) say they are supporting the radicals with money and other help to achieve this. Obama is a MUSLIM we can tell by his actions not what he says! He was raised as one and he has been photograph taking his shoes off and praying with them in the White House. If anyone believes anything Obama says now you really are one of the most stupid people in the world or the most naive!

    • Karolyn

      So you say. And who are you? Oh! I guess you’re a psychic and a scholar of world politics?

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        Who canceled the national day of prayer? Who invited Muslims to the white house to pray on ramadon? Who bowed and kissed the ring of the King of Saudi Arabia? Who never travels with his wife in the middle east? Karolyn go ahead and believe in your potus because I don’t, he has even stated in times of trouble he would side with the muslims.

      • http://timesays dave

        Karolyn

        Based on what i read of Annes posts she does indeed have a good grasp of what is happening with the world , which is far more than i can say for you ! You have no clue Karolyn!!
        It was Karock Insein Nobuma that went over to the university of Ciaro several months back and was bad mouthing the United States and inciting hatred amongst the young students of the university. That was all part of obumas apology tour that did even more to cast the United States in a bad light to the world along with his bowing to foriegn dictators.
        Weakness breads agression. nobumas wink wink nod nod type of coddling of islasmists is breading a rapid escalation in violence in the world in general. The trashing of the US economy by nobuma and the trashing of the dollar by the fed is escallating inflation ( food infllation is soaring) and people are rightfully concerned where their next meal will come from and if they will be able to afford it.
        Those same kind of riots could come to a neighborhood near you someday if things continue in the direction they are going currently in the US with the scumocraps in congress and nobuma racking up trillions in debt and the fed printing dollars with reckless abandon to try and keep up.

      • American Citizen

        Karolyn, you can bury your head in the sand, but you’ll be kicked in the end.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Anne–sorry, but if you believe most of what other politicians say, then you are naive too.

      • Jana

        Claire,
        Anne is right. Read the Hadiths and read the Qu’ran and you will see that these are the mandates of Islam.

      • Jana

        Again, Anne C is right. Look at his actions. Where is his love? His love of the Qu’ran and of Islam is great. Only if you have blinders on would you not see this.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Jana–I made a comment referring to ALL politicians re–her last sentence. You know good and well I do not harbor any favoritism to the muslim cult and their so-called Quran.

      • eddie47d

        Anne; We have been Egypt’s caretaker for about 40 years which includes Sadat. The Egyptian people are their own people,they want their own life. They don’t hate Americans like some of you hate this MUSLIM nation. You want to control their lives and be able to tell them what to do. Well,after 30 years of Mubarak they feel they have had enough. Back off and encourage free elections and less influence from foreign sources.Before us they had the Russians trying to influence their lives. The Russians built the Aswan Dam but even that wasn’t enough for them to be manipulated by them. Nurture this transition and stop stirring up their anger even more.

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d says;
        “We have been Egypt’s caretaker for about 40 years which includes Sadat”.
        True enough Eddie, Sadat was assasinated for making peace with Isreal by radical Islamist extremist associated with the Muslim Brotherhood. Right or wrong Mubarak has had the support of American Presidents in exchange for maintaining peace with Isreal to the tune of 1.5 billion per year. What has changed is that we now have a president who shares the same disdain for Isreal as the radical Islamist extremist.

      • Dan az

        Some in Israel have compared US president Barack Obama’s response to the crisis to that of former US president Jimmy Carter to the Iranian revolution in 1979. Obama has called on Mubarak to show restraint and pass unspecified reforms in Egypt.

        “Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as ‘the president who lost Iran’, which during his term went from being a major strategic ally of the United States to being the revolutionary Islamic republic,” Aluf Benn, an analyst in Haaretz, wrote.

        “Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who ‘lost’ Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America’s alliances in the Middle East crumbled.”

        Still, the Obama administration has stopped short of calling for the resignation of president Mubarak, and as of Sunday, the Pentagon continued to have high-level discussions with the Egytian military.

        Former Israeli general Yaakov Amidror said that in the short term, Israel will face increased smuggling activities in the Sinai peninsula, where the authority of the Cairo government has been further weakened by the unrest.

        As a result of Israel’s blockade of the Gaza strip, widely lambasted as inhumane and an obstacle to the peace process, weapons, fuel and other goods enter the Hamas-controlled territory.

        “They will now try to get in everything they couldn’t get in before,” Amidror said.

        Israel captured Sinai in 1967 and then ceded it to Egypt in the 1979 peace deal. The area was demilitarised as part of the agreement.

        For now, the unrest seems to have had the opposite effect. Gaza smugglers said the supply routes have been disrupted and that they have not received any merchandise from Egypt since Friday, apparently because of difficulties in transporting the goods across Egypt to the Gaza border.

      • eddie47d

        Michael; That was Reagan that lost Lebanon. Because Carter lost Iran makes it even more imperative that we moderate which side we are on in Egypt. The people have spoken so we have an opportunity to make the right decisions and encouraging a voice for the average person in Egypt. This should have been done at least 20 years ago so why have we allowed this to fester for so many years? These protests need to work themselves out first and encouragement for an orderly transition. How about less money for military hardware and more for schools and higher education. What a novel idea in changing a country!

      • Jana

        Claire, that last comment was not made to you but Karolyn’s post. My bad, I should have put her name on it. I do know you and know that you do not hold with the Muslim cult. :)

      • http://deleted Claire

        Jana– No problem.

      • Michael J.

        Eddie47d says:
        “Michael; That was Reagan that lost Lebanon”.
        I don’t know where Lebanon comes into play here, do you think that Sadat was president of Lebanon or something?

        Everybody agrees that the Egyptian people deserve a better shot and Mubarak should receive the same justice as Hussein did. I mean Saddam, not Barak, (because of the name it’s so easy to confuse the two).

        Egyptians are screaming for democracy right now and Allah knows they deserve it, but deserving something is no assurance that you will get it. We may instead be witnessing a radical Islamist take over which would mean a net loss of our largest ally in the region, put extremist in control of the Suez Canal and spell doom for Isreal. Not to mention inflicting Sharia law on 80 million people who would probably rather not have it.

        And lastly, how is it that when the stakes are so high in such global confligrations as this, that all you liberals consider as a solution is building more schools and providing higher education?

        You, all by yourself are justification for the following old addage:

        “Want to save the whales? Call a Liberal…
        “Want to save the planet? Call a Conservative…”

      • eddie47d

        It was Dan who mentioned Lebanon and Conservatives better hurry up if they want to save this planet. Some of them are pretty good at killing whales though. Oh I guess conservative American don’t do that anymore but do little to stop Japan and Norway from doing the same.

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        What would you have us do, nuke Japan again, and Norway too, boy, some peace monger you are!

      • eddie47d

        Trying to be brilliant again Michael? I wouldn’t wish nukes on anyone and am fairly disgusted with conventional wars to. Japan breaks the laws on hunting Whales all the time by labeling these kills scientific research. They are full of it and make money on the deal too. Every nation has there bad apples and it takes years to get them to stop.

    • Michael J.

      Anne,
      Yes, it has entered my mind that Obama, his administration and appointed czars are woven together like a rug with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    • spitfire

      Yes Islam is now making its move on world domination, and have been in preperation for this how many years?? Those of you who do not believe in the bible should maybe rethink that one, and those of you who do know what this all means. It is now moving rapidly towards a great event.

    • http://timesays dave

      Anne

      I think You make a great thought provoking point .

  • http://wwwroyaltoypoodle.com maxi

    It looks like Egypt is going from bad to worst. A dictator may not have been their ideal ruler but if the Muslims take over things are going to get much worse again. The graves left by Hussein are going to be filled again with more bodies. those anti Muslim dissetants will be targeted. the people protesting probably don’t have a clue.

    • eddie47d

      Egypt is a Muslim country and ruled by a Muslim. They have been Muslim for at least a thousand years or more. If you can’t help them in their cry for Freedom then step aside.Maybe Mubarak thinks he is the new Pharaoh.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Mubarak is a moderate muslim and not very religous, he hates radical islam and the terroists, it was the MB which killed Anwar Sadat for making peace with Isreal. So you are telling us now, you would rather see Egypt opressed further under islam and sharia law, give us a break you have no idea what you are talking about.

      • eddie47d

        Yes the killing of Sadat was a tragedy for this peacemaker. We have groups in America that want to kill Obama. Are you proud of them? Do you want to jail them or stop them from voting. Mubarak jailed and tortured thousands of Muslim Brotherhood citizens. He inflamed the situation and turned more Egyptians against him.It’s shallow trying to stay in power as long as he did and it’s clear he has lost touch with his fellow Egyptians. I am not trying to beat up on Mubarak and I’m sure in the past he did some good. We have term limits for President so why do you tolerate it so much in other nations?

      • Jana

        eddie,
        We have had “groups” that have wanted to kill every President. That is why they are protected by their body guards and the Secret Service.

      • Brad

        Edwardo said,

        “Yes the killing of Sadat was a tragedy for this peacemaker. We have groups in America that want to kill Obama. Are you proud of them? Do you want to jail them or stop them from voting. Mubarak jailed and tortured thousands of Muslim Brotherhood citizens”.

        I will never approve of any group which condones the murder of any individual to include our president, you must or you wouldn’t have posted the comment! Do you have proof Mubarak jailed and tortured MB members?

        “He inflamed the situation and turned more Egyptians against him”.

        Corruption is what inflamed the country, lack of jobs, people not being able to take care of their own business, that’s why they are rioting.

        “It’s shallow trying to stay in power as long as he did and it’s clear he has lost touch with his fellow Egyptians. I am not trying to beat up on Mubarak and I’m sure in the past he did some good. We have term limits for President so why do you tolerate it so much in other nations”?

        Congress set term limits on the president, only after FDR passed away while in office in 1945 and while serving his forth term. Tolerate term limits, it’s their country, they set the rules, if Egyptians have voted for Mubarak for 30 years it’s what they wanted.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Brad they have been tortured. Maybe a few of them deserved it but not the thousands who have been jailed. That is a leader out of control.

      • Brad

        So where’s the proof eddie47d

      • JeffH

        Brad says: “So where’s the proof eddie47d”?
        History shows that eddie has no proof.

      • eddie47d

        I know you can’t help it Jeff but stop lying. Stop telling others to do your homework for you too. Look up Muslim Brotherhood and torture. What I said is not in defense of M.B.’s assassination attempts either. Some of their history is as sordid as Nassars and Mubaraks.From 1954 on(Nassar) did jail and tortured thousands. Not so many under Sadat but Mubarak resumed it. In 2005 the Ikhwans (M.B.’s)won 20% of vote which didn’t please Mubarak and he jailed the opposition. Then set up rules to further keep them out of power. Something you surely must approve of?) The Muslim Brotherhood made further inroads in the 2010 elections (Ikhwans) and the crackdowns continued. Those last elections and beatings spurred them to the streets just as much as the Tunisia overthrow.I certainly hope that the M.B.’s don’t get too powerful but they are part of the political process in Egypt.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JeffH,
        I think I just figured it out!! eddie doesn’t know how to post sites!!! He has to get someone to do it for him! When he doesn’t have someone, there he refuses to post sites!!

      • eddie47d

        Poor Joe can’t stand the truth so he turns to ridicule.If you can prove me wrong then go for it or back off. Play nice or I’ll put Pelosi in bed with you tonight.

      • JeffH

        eddie, you are a riot. I want someone else to do my research for me? I’m a liar? ROFLMA!

        You said, “Mubarak jailed and tortured thousands of Muslim Brotherhood citizens.” Now the Muslim Brotherhood is a nation with citizens? I’ve done my homework and I know you already read it, you even made your typical weak attempt to ridicule me without success and you have the nerve to accuse someone of not doing their own homework. You are a liar and a complete hypocrit to the nth degree.

      • JeffH

        …and JoeH, you’re 100% correct!

      • Dan az

        Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s announcement today that he will not seek re-election and his country will have a peaceful, democratic political transition, if true, has “pulled the rug,” from under the feet of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, former Assistant Defense Secretary K.T. McFarland told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto.

        Now there is a “fighting chance that there will be a peaceful transition,” McFarland said, noting that it previously had been believed that Mubarak planned “to rule from the grave,” pushing for his son Gamal to succeed him in the presidency he has held three decades.

        “The Muslim Brotherhood just had the rug pulled out from under them,” she said. “This will be a peaceful transition. They [the protesters] are not burning the American flag

        Read more on Newsmax.com: Ex-Defense Official McFarland: Mubarak Foiled Muslim Brotherhood
        Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Danaz,
        I don’t know about that. The news reels I saw on Fox and BBC showed there was still a lot of fighting going on! They just might not be willing to wait till his term is up!

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        Where are you getting the idea that the people there are “crying for freedom”?

        The ONLY people I’ve heard say that are the press – and I don’t like their opinions.

        The people there are upset because they don’t like the corruption and the lack of jobs/bad economy. At least that is all I’ve heard them say. They want the existing government replaced to eliminate those problems. If it is replaced by another dictator who does clean up the corruption, they will be happy with him.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe those who lost their Internet access are the ones “crying for freedom”.I doubt if the word has a clear meaning in any “dictatorship”.I also doubt if the Muslim Brotherhood understands the concept either.So we have to listen to several sources.

  • J.M.R.

    what do you expect from a rag head dick-tater here in the U.S.A. if we had a senate they would impeach this a&& and put him in front of a firing squad.

    • Karolyn

      Totally useless comment.

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        Truth hurts, we must have hit a soft spot. When the history books are done with Obama it will be writen he was the worst president this country has ever seen since Jimmy Carter. Are you embarassed yet Karolyn?

      • http://deleted Claire

        I will take the liberty of answering this–No, I am not embarassed– I am heartsick. I am heartsick of what past administrations and current politicians have contributed towards this mess America is in.

      • Tazio2013

        Brad,

        Wrong again; cheney bush is without doubt the worst president in US history!

      • Brad

        Tazio2013,

        You sir are wrong!!! Are you insinuating that Obama is the best of the worst presidents because Obama ranks well below Carter. In two years Bush didn’t add over 4 Trillion to the national debt, gave us a national health care system that’s going to bankrupt this country, so try again fool, you are so wrong on so many different points.

      • JUKEBOX

        I thought Bush’s first name was GEORGE, not Cheney.

      • Lewis Munn

        Bush was nothing but a severely alcoholic brain-damaged tool run by commands from “shoot your hunting buddy” Cheney. I hear nobody blaming Cheney, or trying to find out who commanded him.

        You folks need to ease off on Bush and admit rather Cheney ran him as a figurehead, and then go back to who ran Cheney.

        Leave the poor brain-damaged guy alone, and go after those who hid behind him and ran him!

      • Pat R

        Bush stole us blind. Remember 911? That was done by Bush & Co. (both Bushes) to cover up the theft of the Gold under the Twin Towers and stored in a closed Airfield in the desert in Arizona. IMO that is why the Government has been so against Arizona on everything they try to do.
        Protecting the Gold! Obama knows about all this and they have been fighting the Global Settlements, but now the gold has been recovered and payments are being processed. Both Bushes, Obama and whomever else,
        including Bill and Hillary Clinton should be locked up and tried for Treason.

    • JIBBS

      @ JMR, you are correct, Labama needs to be removed asap, he has no idea what is going on or how to fix what went wrong. Maybe he is thinking of another week-end get away. Some place to hide til things cool off His spine seems to be more like that of a jelly fish, than steel.

      • eddie47d

        Jibbs;What should he do about Egypt? How would you handle it JIBBS? It’s a Muslim country so more than likely it will be run by a Muslim. Mubarak is a Muslim but has over extended his time in office. You wouldn’t put up with a 30 year term or even a 12 year term so which side are you on? Would you put up with the Internet being shut down like Mubarak did? Take a stand on the issue instead of useless verbiage.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        We already know Obama has no spine, he’s only inspired the radicals and ridiculed Mubarack. Egypt has voted for this corrupt fool for 30 year’s and yes it’s their problem not ours and Obama needs to keep us out of their internal affairs, instead he’s flaming them.

      • eddie47d

        Where is he inflaming them? Using caution and staying out of their way is hardly taking sides and we shouldn’t be stifling the voice of their people.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Obama and Hillary step’d into it a few days sfter the riots started, he backed Mubarak which infuriated the rioters. Obama has backed off recently only because he was told to by his masters.

      • Tom from Idaho

        Mr Ed. If you read the article, there was no intelligence in the intelligence community and Hillary’s State department to keep anyone apprised as to what was (is) going on in Egypt. Also, if you read the article (which is apparent that you did not), we (the US) need to be very wary of the ramifications if the Muslim Brotherhood (basically a terrorist group) gets power in the government of Egypt. That is the point of being involved at all. Those ramifications are important to the rest of the world as well. This regime (i. e. Obama’s) has had several opportunities to make the world a better place just by supporting for the good and he blew it (on purpose, I think). Iran just this past year is a good example of that. Now we have the same ‘ol corrupt same ‘ol dicatatorship with sharia law in Iran. That pattern will continue until someone helps empower the people in those countries. It’s about the real and true “social justice”. Isn’t that what you are for, Mr. Ed?

      • eddie47d

        Absolutely, Mubarak has been in power too long if you hadn’t noticed. Maybe he was trying to pull a Castro and ignore the plight of his people. Some leaders just don’t understand when it is time for them to go.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        Hmmm Egypt has a population of 83 million and approximately 1.5% of the population is rioting, so what’s wrong with the other 98.5% of the population. So the minority is making the majority cowtow to their whims, you and this administration approve of this behavior. God help us all.

      • eddie47d

        You did make a good point about that 1.5% So should we put that in Tea Party terms. The majority of Americans voted for Obama in 2008 and some of you refuse to accept that. So there is a minority out there saying he is wrong. Then we’ll go to 2010 where those small crowds of Tea Partiers made in roads in the elections But according to you since they didn’t represent the majority they shouldn’t have a voice. Now remember a few Tea Party candidates did win but under the Republican banner. So since they were so small in number on the streets that would make them irrelivant and we should stop listening to them.

      • Jana

        eddie,
        The TEA Party people are not out there tearing the country apart. They are not out there robbing and stealing and causing fires. They are peacefully exercising their right to gather together because they are like minded.

      • RPH1045

        I think that Obama is a Muslim,and you said that Murbarak shut down the internet, isn’t thats what Obama wants to do to us with his kill switch on our internet here and to think he wants to become a dictator but he isn’t yet is he.

      • kate8

        RPH0145 – The PTB need to be able to prevent communication during a state of civil unrest. That is what they plan for us as well, as they are marching us toward the same thing.

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        Using MSM logic it seems that Obama’s heated rhetoric spoken at his 2009 speech in front of students at the Egyptian University and subsequent snippets aimed at Mubarak himself in recent days may have given rise to this violent, bloody upheval reminiscent of the Tucson travesty.
        I mean, I’m just sayin.

      • eddie47d

        Yeah, you are always “just saying” or is that saying nothing relevant in this case.

      • Brad

        Edwardo,

        We already know the MSM slants to the left, they won’t protray Obama in a bad light. So who’s tell the truth?

      • Michael J.

        eddie47d,
        Definition of relevant = Having a bearing on or connection with the matter at hand.

        Sounds pretty relevant to me. Just because you can’t escape the parallels, doesn’t give you a reason to change the subject.

      • eddie47d

        Brad; Fox leans to the right and won’t say anything bad about Palin. So get over yourself and stop playing tag team unless you have something important to say.

      • 45caliber

        JIBBS:

        Whenever Clinton was in trouble, he attacked someone – a camel in a tent in Afghanistan, Somalia, etc. Whenever Oblama gets in a crack, he takes a vacation. I’m not sure which costs us the least money.

    • JR

      For what? Because is supposedly is a Muslim…ohh gasp…show me where it is written in the constitution that a Muslim can not be the president of the US? So, even if he would come out openly and state he is a Muslim (something he is not and everyone who has studied Islam knows this) this is still no legal reason to impeach. In fact, don’t you believe in your governments function and hate? Trust me, if there would be anything he did that would stand up legally to warrant impeachment…some Obama hater in congress….and there are many….would already started the process.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JR,
        No because he isn’t a natural born citizen!

    • spitfire

      J.M.R. you are totally correct, but the problem is the senate is mostly Democratic liberal communists, bent on the destruction of America as it is currently.

  • Gary

    The muslim brotherhood is the new communism we fought around the world for 60 years. In the end, that turned out to be the best thing to do. However, look down the road a bit. If we let the muslim brotherhood and shiria law take hold in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, and others, what problems will we have to deal with then? We know what they stand for and its NOT in our best interests to let them gain power. So, do we just stand back( like we did in WWII until Japan bombed us) or do we try and “steer” the direction and government of these nations?

    It was stated that Clinton never got the chance to have a “cisis” like Bush got with 9/11 to show his stuff. It has been stated Obama needs such a crisis so he can show his spine of steel as Bidin claimed he has. Well, he has his crisis. this one could turn out to be much more dangerous than 9/11 was! This could be a crisis that will alter the entire world. It’s crucial how this president handles this. We may avoid an immediate issue, only to have a much larger mess to deal with later! Now is not a time to play politics. Now is a time to pay attention, and get it right the first time. Personnaly, this president does not have what it takes to do this right. He’s way to full of himself, and does not have a clear understanding of world issues. He has shown that way too many times already!

    • http://deleted Claire

      When I look back 30-50 years– I really do not find any potus that really had the guts/bal–s to do the job. Crude, but this is what I believe.

      • Jana

        Claire,
        Actually I think you are right. No one really ever knew what to do with them and their radical religion, and we always had this idea that we would be exempt from this mess. Then they started coming over here and was welcomed with open arms. Now they are treating the entire world as their rug to wipe their feet on. They are using our freedom of religion to mean freedom to take us over and make us turn to an Islamic nation too. This is their goal. It is in the Qu’ran and the Hadiths to do so. We are already incorporating Sharia law into our court systems in many places. We have Sharia law in our banking system. They are slowly and quietly stealing their way in to our society. Many of our fast food establishments and restaurants already use Halal meat. Once they get a strong foothold they plan on taking over.
        Just like the Mosque near ground zero. We haven’t heard too much about that recently, but they are proceeding with the plans to build it. It may take them longer than they had hoped, but it will be done one way or another.

      • Brad

        Claire, Jana,

        Both of you are right in my view but I also fear the end (WWIII). It’s coming and we can’t stop it; if the islamists take over a country that has nuclear weapons they won’t hesitate to use them, so Pakistan needs to watch out, they are next.

        If the MB gains momentum and they gain control of Eygept they will control the flow of traffic through the Suez Canal. We can’t afford 200 dollars a barrel of oil coming from Saudi Arabia and or Kuwait. The enviromentalists in our own country won’t let us drill for ower own resources, we have in the ground enough oil to last us more than 100 years and we can’t touch it, ask them why!

      • http://deleted Claire

        Brad–I am not a warmonger, but I firmly believe that we should NEVER NEVER cut back on our military/weaponry. This is Rule #1. We should never have allowed America to lapse into a weakened condition. Rule # 2– Be prepared–always be on guard, keep our eyes open and our ears listening. Paranoia? Nope, common sense. Rule # 3 –Keep our “friends” close and our enemies closer. In other words, don’t tread on America. Ever.

      • Brad

        Amen Claire!!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        Jana– I agree with your comment. They were greeted with open arms and they quickly and methodically pursued every opportunity they could get. Not all immigrants are evil, but some are/were. With the influx of so many foreigners into America for the past 100 years, I sometimes think “silently but deadly.” Paranoid? No, I am being realistic. I keep thinking they will get us from “within.” And they are.

      • http://www.America-Betrayed-1787.com Oliver Woods

        Jana, you are exactly correct in your comment on Muslim abuse of Freedom of Religion. This is their modus operandi everywhere and it is our own fault because Freedom of Religion spells cultural suicide. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is a direct violation of the First Commandment: “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Freedom of Religion is national idolatry and God pronounces death on any culture that embraces it. The Bible protects freedom of conscience for the “stranger,” but strictly forbids public worship of any other god, including Alah. Any nation that sanctions this will perish, for reasons that are now becoming obvious:

        “And you shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the Lord alone, shall be utterly destroyed” (Ex 22: 20,21).

      • Jana

        Oliver Woods,
        AMEN!!!

      • kate8

        Oliver – Prior to LBJ, only immigrants from cultures compatible with ours were allowed to settle in America. They had to go through screening to show that they would be an asset to our culture.

        It was LBJ who opened the door to the Third World. I remember going on road trips during the early ’80s and being surprised to find middle easterners owning more and more of the motels and making real inroads into our economy, and wondering what would become of our culture because of it.

        Multiculturism is a communist tool to set nations up for decay and collapse. Political correctness was introduced to silence those of us who were uneasy about where it was all heading.

      • 45caliber

        I can’t see the connection to the 1st Amendment and Freedom of Religion. The 1st Amendment said that the government couldn’t interfer with the free exercise of religion – but it does all the time. After all, when they refuse to allow school prayer or a cross on public property, they are putting restrictions in based on some complaint by, usually, only one person. Madeline O’Hara was financed by the Soviets to push that because they recognized that people who are firmly religious can’t easly be conquered.

        The 1st Amendment was placed because ALL of the people in the colonies at the time had experienced government interference with their religions. They wanted to make it plain that the government had no business in religion. Unfortunately the government has turned that around trying to say that it means religion has no place in government. That is wrong.

      • kate8

        45 – The actual reason the public school system was put in place was to make sure that everyone could read the Bible. They felt that was important for people to be able to hold on to freedom.

        I know this will drive the progressives nuts, but it’s true nonetheless.

      • Bruce D.

        Nice post 45 Caliber. Really “congress shall pass no law” concerning religion is dead. Any victories in court of Christian intolerance comes through freedom of speech.

      • Bruce D.

        I have not studied it but maybe Congress isn’t passing any laws restricting religion. Activists judges are deciding that and freedom of speech is the only argument they will listen to concerning that.

      • http://None Ray Rourke

        At last some wisdom shows up here in this discussion. I wish more would come along.

      • spitfire

        Only two I can think of!

      • 45caliber

        Claire:

        I think Bush I made one mistake. He didn’t finish finding and killing Saddam. Otherwise he did exactly the right thing about Iraq. He drove them back, annilated their forces, and then pulled out without trying to “rebuild” their country.

        We started that stupid idea at the end of WWII, supposedly to give us power in the areas our of late enemies, Japan and Germany. Why? What good did it do us? Nothing. But it certainly cost us tons of money!

      • http://deleted Claire

        45caliber– I stress the fact I am not a warmonger, I want this understood, please. First off, if I were POTUS, and I had made the decision to attack another country, I would make damn sure my reasonings were legit, I would go whole hog, do what I had to do to accomplish the goal and get the hell out. No fooling around, no backpeddling, no ifs, ands, or buts. I would get the job done and get the troops home. This dilly dallying around is insane. The Iraq war has put America into a financial hole, right along with the continued unnecessary killing of our troops. Our troops are precious, they have sacrificed more for America than we ourselves have. This war has accomplished absolutely nothing–I would pull ALL of our troops out and bring them home in a New York minute. And I would make damn sure these troops would return to a good life back in the U.S. The veterans would be taken care of, no more BS when it comes to our soldiers. Their families have sacrified too, take care of them.
        War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!” Remember that song? The Iraq war is a perfect example of this song.
        Yes, Bush screwed around and now there is more of the same. It will be interesting to see if Obama starts getting our troops out by July–I am waiting….

      • Pat R

        Everyone blames Bush, but Mubarak is the one that demanded Sadam Hussein be killed.

      • 45caliber

        Claire:

        I agree with most of what you have said. But the Iraq “war” wasn’t nearly as expensive as trying to build up the country. Why are we doing that? That’s where most of the cost is going. (Why did we bother building up Japan after WWII for that matter?) I remember someone in the government saying that only 10% of the Iraqi people had access to any type of telephone before we went in but now all were going to be able to get and use them. So? Why did we spend the money to make sure they could? It’s just extra cost.

        When war is needed (and sometimes it is) do it and get it over with and then get out. We should quit trying to feel sorry for the people who were trying to kill you and pay them for it.

      • http://deleted Claire

        45caliber–WE seem to think along the same lines.

      • libertytrain

        Claire – change of subject you needn’t reply to – but I hope you are finished shoveling snow for the day -

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I find this repulsive as well. Did Japan rebuild Pearl?? Or the phillipines?
        We should have went into Iraq reduced it to rubble and left! That is IF we were going to attack!

    • rosina

      Do not expect ANYTHING GOOD from the Bummer.
      You must know by now that he approves of Islam. It was his childhood religion after all. And, he approves of dictatorship. Don’t you recall how he bowed to and applauds the dictators of the earth such as Chavez. That is what is in his mind, HOW TO BE LIKE THEM.
      AND YES, World War 111 is definitely coming and it will be a war of religion in effect.
      This ‘usurper’ is NOT pro-America. In other countries they choose what they wish for THEIR OWN country and do not wish to be dictated to. So be it. Here, it SHOULD BE FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COUNTRY AND AT PRESENT IT IS NOT!

      • Jana

        rosina,
        And from all that I have seen of Obama he still holds Islam very dearly in his heart. He is a closet Muslim whose religion is Islam and he is slowly and very carefully emerging publicly.

      • kate8

        Jana – So true. And he’s being protected by everyone who is supposed to protect US from people like him. We have lost our gatekeepers.

    • Dr. Mabuse

      Right on the second point, Gary…
      Wrong on the first point. Let me clarify…
      “The muslim brotherhood is the new communism we fought around the world for 60 years.”

      Underground links to the Nazis began during the 1930s and were close during the Second World War, involving agitation against the British, espionage and sabotage, as well as support for terrorist activities orchestrated by Haj Amin el-Hussaini in British Mandate Palestine, as a wide range of declassified documents from the British, American and Nazi German governmental archives, as well as from personal accounts and memoirs from that period, confirm. Reflecting this connection the Muslim Brotherhood also disseminated Hitler’s Mein Kampf and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion widely in Arab translations, helping to deepen and extend already existing hostile views about Jews and democracy in Western societies generally.

      Given Hitler’s aversion to communism, its a non sequitar that he would have any long term affiliation with a communist organization.
      By proxy, The Americans aided and abetted some of the goals of the “Brotherhood” by their financial support of the National Socialist regime. (See John Foster and Allen Dulles).

      “If we let the muslim brotherhood and shiria law take hold in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, and others, what problems will we have to deal with then? We know what they stand for and its NOT in our best interests to let them gain power.”
      This is directly on point, note the writings of Sayyid Qutb:

      Qutb was the author of one of Islamism’s most important books, Milestones, which called for the restoration of Islam by re-establishing the Sharia and by using “physical power and Jihad for abolishing the organizations and authorities of the Jahili system, which he believed to include the entire Muslim world.

      The Sharia is a anathema to the Western way of thought, and the “clash of civiliztions” as one wag put it seems inevitable.

  • http://deleted Claire

    Mubarak has been in office for what–30 years? Seems like all the past administrations did not have much of a problem with him. Why? Now that this issue has happened, what should be done? Go to war with them? We should mind our own business, quit sticking our nose in other countries’ affairs. Hell, with the corruption within our own government, I fail to see how we can take on another country’s problems and create a “democracy” for them when we can’t even operate our own country with moral ethics.

    • JUKEBOX

      Obama’s speech ic Cairo to the Muslim Brotherhood planted the seeds of dissent, and thus helped to start this fiasco.

      • Pat R

        No Obama fan here, but, Bush hosted a Youth Forum in 2008, and youth from this area in Egypt and other nations attended. This is the outcome of that Forum. They radicalized these young people to cause discontent, and have fomented it ever since.
        During reading articles doing research online, I came across a statement that caught my attention. I will try to find it again. In the article, the author stated that if the American citizens ever found out what the Leadership in this country had done to them; the people would revolt and hang them all on the steps of the Capitol! This remark came from someone who knew what was going on in the Foreign Country that is known as Washington DC.

      • FLEURDELYS

        I agree with everything Pat R have posted. I found out he did realy make his searches thoroughly. I also think his one of the smartest and intellect here.

  • jd

    Why dont we just butt out and let people do what they want. Both here in u.s. as well as abroad. whether you have the ability to vote or not; trying to control people is fascist.

    • Bobber

      No, it is liberal/fascist.

      • eddie47d

        You all want a voice in government yet when it come to the Egyptian government you want to oppress the voice of their 85 million people. What hypocrites! You say you don’t want foreign entanglement yet you want to control the lives of those very people who have gained little in our billions in military support. If you truly believe in Freedom then give this process a chance. Stay on the side lines and encourage them to take the right path. Once again it’s not our country to win or loose.

      • spitfire

        Eddie what part of Egypt do you live? How is everything going for you there? I hope you have not seen the violence first hand. Then again, if you area muslim, it is probaby like the best party you have ever attended.

      • eddie47d

        So you believe in having a foot on the back of the Egyptian people. Whether it’s Mubarak or our military equipment keeping them in line. At this point there is very little violence and I noticed even John Meyers tried to trump that up. Our Revolution was messy too so what is going on in Egypt is quit tame.

      • Zoey

        Spitfire,
        I ask this question, what percentage of Egypts people want Mubarek out? What percentage support him? I find it odd that our media only portrays the protesters wanting him out. How many of their people are actually happy with the government? Of course if all you show on tv and the people that you interview are against their government that is what the world will see and hear. So, now the opposition has come to the streets and the media is putting the spin that violence has now broken out. I consider it violent when the original protesters were clubbing and hitting others and destroying property and looting, violence, don’t you? I’m not disagreeing with you in any way, just something to ponder, why doesn’t our media report the news on both sides? Isn’t it odd that is how they do it here in America too.

      • Bruce D.

        Good point Zoey. How many are looking for freedom, how many just want to loot, how many like the present government, how many want an Iranian type theocracy based on no freedom, and how many just want jobs. It is quite possible most just want jobs but more likely it will end up a theocracy like Iran. I actually hope I am wrong.

      • RPH1045

        I agree ,Obama isn’t he is getting involved. And its not any of the USA’s business. Also I think all people that chooses to come here, should have to adhere to our customs not us having to change to accept their customs. REMEMBER THEY ARE MOVING HERE. I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT THAT YOU RESPECT PEOPLE WHEN YOU GO AROUND THOSE PEOPLE FRIEND OR ENEMY

      • Delores Smith

        eddie47d
        The man who wants to become the leader of Egypt admits that more than 30% of the population are the Muslim Brotherhood. This is not a question of supporting the people in Egypt…the Muslim Brotherhood are stirring up the people. MB founded Hamas and AlQuaida. This new leader wants to include Muslim Brotherhood in the new government. Sound familiar? Lebanon with Hezbollah until Lebanon fell…Hamas with Palestine on Gaza Strip
        …and now, Muslim Brotherhood wants to govern Egypt. Hamas and Hezbollah are on our list of Terrorists, but Obama does not have Muslim Brotherhood on the list of Terrorists. Obama, we are watching you. Put Muslim Brotherhood on our list of Terrorists…you know their history! Their clear goal is to take Israel and the United States. Obama, you won’t care, because you want to be Ruler of the Muslim World, but you are not qualified. Americans, keep contacting Congress with your views. We’ll get Obama out of office in 2012.
        Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

      • eddie47d

        Maybe the Muslim Brotherhood is dangerous and maybe they are mostly ordinary citizens who are tired of being pushed around. Some say the Tea Party was extreme but I for one never believed that.The point is that every nation or group of people has citizens who are mad and won’t take it anymore. Sound familiar? There are degrees of oppression and believe me most Americans are not oppressed. So you have to look at the Egyptian struggle in a different context. How do they live and work and how much money do they live on each day.

      • Jana

        Delores,
        You are soooo right.

      • JeffH

        eddie says: “Maybe the Muslim Brotherhood is dangerous and maybe they are mostly ordinary citizens who are tired of being pushed around.”

        Again I’ll say, a little research can go a long way. Ordinary citizens they are not…

        Muslim American Warns of Brotherhood Danger:
        American elites are whitewashing the danger posed by the Muslim Brotherhood in nations like Egypt, writes Dr. Qanta Ahmed, a prominent Muslim American physician.

        Ahmed, who has firsthand experience living and working in Muslim lands, believes what is occurring in Egypt is “an Islamist movement’s a la carte dream come true.” But instead of telling the American public what is actually going on, the media is feeding them a steady diet of “well-spoken academics” providing false reassurances that the Brotherhood is not a major threat to liberty.

        “Make no mistake,” she writes, “the Muslim Brotherhood is a menacingly ambitious group which seeks staggering influence in international and domestic politics and has an unshakable view of installing an ultraorthodox Sharia through the bedrock of constitutions and democracy in a way that will favor repression, social control, and seek to expunge pluralism and secularism.”

        The American Muslim community is relatively small, spread out and diverse, Ahmed writes, so no one can claim to speak on its behalf. Yet, Muslim Brotherhood affiliates in the United States “function covertly as components to community advocacy groups who are inexplicably empowered by a naïve or perhaps deliberately wily U.S. administration fulfilling shortsighted politically correct goals while persistently failing to see the risks presented by engaging with such organizations at the exclusion of the influences of smaller and far more moderate groups.”
        http://www.investigativeproject.org/2547/muslim-american-warns-of-brotherhood-danger

      • Bruce D.

        I am not sure why Eddie cannot see that Delores. It is a mystery to me how people miss that side of the equation.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        eddie,
        If you never thought the TEA party dangerous, then why have I seen you post that they are gun toting rednecks??? You said that Sarah Palin was to be blamed for the Tuscon shooter. If that’s not saying that they are dangerous i don’t know what does!!

      • eddie47d

        Joe; I have never said that the Tea Party people are gun toting rednecks or that Palin is at fault for the Tucson shooting. You are a liar and a mixed up dishonest sort of a human. Showing your true colors gain?

      • 45caliber

        eddie: why not stay on the sidelines and keep our mouths shut one way or the other? It isn’t our business. Let them alone and when they finally get things straight, deal with whoever is in control on a straight-forward way. If they don’t want that, then ignore them.

        The ONLY time we should get involved in ANY country is when we are attacked. Then we should stomp them flat, tell them that next time we’ll do a better job of it if they try anything again, and then go home.

      • Pat R

        Remember the missile off the coast of CA recently? Why did it happen, and they lied to us again! The US had parked 2 nuclear armed ships in China’s coastal waterways. China asked them to move them and they refused to do so. Surprise! China sent a Sub and fired towards the USS
        Eisenhower. not to hit it , but to get their attention. In the process, the Luxury Liner in the area at the time had all of it,s controls fried, and had to be towed in.
        Our Government thinks it can do as it damn well pleases and treat any other Country as it pleases. This crap has got to stop.

      • 45caliber

        Pat:

        So that’s what that was about. In any case, it wasn’t China’s coastal waters. What China is claiming is about like the US claiming that no one except US ships can sail in the Gulf of Mexico. Not even those who border it like Mexico. So in a way, I agree with the US on this one. But it would have been nice to know why. Thanks for letting me know.

      • Kinetic1

        Bobber,
        Trying to control people is “liberal/fascist?” It could be said that America’s relationship has been one of love/hate when it comes to Saddam Hussein, but no one can overlook the support given to him by America and the CIA in the 70s.

        America loved Sadam when he was at war with Iran. It wasn’t until the late 80s/early 90s when Iraq’s relationship with Kuwait reached a head, that Sadam finally fell out of our graces. Iraq had long held that Kuwait was truly a region of Iraq, and after years of arguments over Kuwait’s resistance to reducing oil production to raise prices and help Iraq pay off Iraq’s Iranian war debt (much of it owed to America) Sadam invaded Kuwait. Even then, George H.W. Bush was reluctant to step in. We all know the story of “Desert Storm” and our military’s efforts to free the Kuwaitis (and their oil reserves), but how many people remember that we didn’t continue our push into Bagdad for fear of destabilizing the region? Even when we were at war with Sadam, we wanted him to continue to remain a force against Islamic rule.

        Fast forward to the prodigal son, and George W. Bush pushes to war with Iraq. And what do we get? A destabilized Middle East! Who would have guessed it? Bottom line, from Reagan’s funding of Sadam’s war with Iran, to Bush Senior’s reluctance to invade and Bush Jr.’s decision to “create” a democracy, the right has had no problem with exerting their control over other nations. So again I ask, how can you say that controlling people is “liberal/fascist”?

    • JUKEBOX

      If we did as you want us to do, Israel would probably nuke Iran and all of the radical Muslims that are dedicated to their destruction.

      • American Patriot

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

        This Jewish Rabbi says Jews lived in peace with Muslims for a very long time. So, who is the radicals? Jews or Muslims? I think that maybe we are all being played.

      • Jana

        AP,
        It sounds like you are the one being played! You don’t know the Word.

      • Bruce D.

        Jews have their own side to the story. The Muslim side which I happen to believe is that prior to 1948 Jews were legally buying land up to 6% of the population with the aid of others. The stipulation was that it could never be sold to Arabs once bought. Many Muslims did not want to sell their land and more so after they found this out. Several hundred thousand Muslims were pushed off their land in 1948 through the use of terror and war. They ended up in camps in Jordan where their descendants live to this day. Any harmony between Jews and Muslims came about by the Jews complete dominance over them with force. Now with Sharia Law being also a political movement enforced by terrorism and jihad it is not just Israel’s problem anymore. It has become a problem for the whole world.

      • Bruce D.

        American Patriot I saw the video after I posted. I do not think anyone can deny the Jews took Israel by force and displaced hundreds of thousands of Muslims. That is history and not reversibly. I think the problem is bigger than that now. Muslims want to establish religious/political dominance in the world and claim to be inspired by god to kill anyone who gets in their way. It does make the news in America but Muslims have been killing Thais on the average of one a day for the last seven years in the South of Thailand. Many are school kids and teachers because Thais will not cater to their culture in the school system.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JUKEBOX,
        Israel will not nuke Iran if they want to continue to live healthy lives! Do you realize what exploding a nuke in all that sand would do to them, not to mention the rest of the world with the winds aloft??? The trade winds would take that radio active sand around the world. Just remember when Chernobyl went up, we registered rads here from it and that wasn’t a bomb in sand either!

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    he is in lala land not reality.

    • Pat R

      He is stoned on cocaine! Why all the impromptu trips to Afghanistan? He simply restocks, flying it home on Air Force One. No Security checks.
      You Go Boy! Your day on reckoning is knocking on your door!
      No, you are NOT God; as you recently stated in the Oval Office. Yes, you can be arrested! Which, by the way is looming on the horizon.
      YOU’RE GOING DOWN, SOON!

  • MJ Montana

    S.C.
    You wrote it’s deja vu all over again. Why not with Groundhog Day and all?

    One State Department dictator is another useful puppet for the Pentagon. Keeping Mubarak around but saying Saddam HAD to be overthrown makes Washington look even more stupid. And what was the Iraq war over anyway? Oh yeah DEMOCRACY, just like we have in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (NOT!).

    Keep in mind S.C., many think that Egypt will turn into a true democracy. That will certainly be bucking the trend where more and more countries are ruled by Islamic goverments rather than securlar ones.

    • TIME

      Been to the UK or France or Germany lately?
      They have their hands full with the Muslims. We are closing our office in London due to the damage we have had to our business over the last few years.
      My lease is up and we are out of there, the tax’s are crazy, the laws more so but to also have to deal with the looting, smashing of windows weekly, paint removal weekly, you know kind of like what went on in Nazi Germany I have had enough.

      In Paris France these Muslims have all but destroyed parts of the city they shut down large parts of the city when its time for their daily prayers when they just plop down in the streets.

      If you have never seen any of this before you have “NO CLUE” how bad it gets. And its not going to get better any time soon. Life as most of you have grown to know is about to come to an end.
      Welcome to not only HELL, but what will end up being World War III.

      And Yes you’re government has brought this about, no mater where you live, the UK, France, Germany, Russia, USA, the only places I don’t see any Muslims is in China and Japan as they will not stand for that BS at all.

      • Jana

        Time,
        This is exactly what the Muslims (listen to how obama pronounces it as he pronounces it perfect ‘Mooslum’) want to do in the United States as well. Already they as you said plop themselves down on Fridays in New York as well as many other major cities. After all, remember we are the Great Satan here in this country and we need to be taken over by them and Islamaize us.

      • kate8

        TIME and Jana – It will certainly be interesting to see who steps forward with a treaty to “bring peace” to the Middle East.

      • Jana

        Kate8,
        Exactly. Thats when we know the time is at hand when they start proclaiming peace.

      • American Patriot

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

        Jewish Rabbi against Zionism in Israel

      • Jana

        American Patriot,
        He may be a Jew, but he is also a Kenite.

      • Dick Gazinia

        Even Beverly Hills is being Islamicized. The mayor is an Iranian who has a tough time with English as so many of his rich countrymen have bought into that community and outvoted everyone else. Why are we giving these people visas to move here.

        The Italians are having major problems with their Muslim immigrants as are the French, Ditch, Germans, and Brits. Why are all those doors open to people who hate the countries they are moving to and hate the cultures of those countries?

        And here… they are building more mosques. Just what we need.

      • debalazo

        Solution: Take all dual passport, dual loyalty israel first traitors in government, pack them to Tel Aviv, and end their open border multiculturalism, and any and all countries affected by such invasions will restore sanity and safety to their citizens.

        Do not condemn the invaders or trouble makers, indict the subversives from zion. Just look up their names in the government rosters and kick them out of your country.

      • TIME

        Jana,

        I have pictures somewhere of visit to Paris last summer it was mind numbing, and there are thousands of them doing this.

        Our office in London has had the windows broken out over the last few years no less than 10 times. I am not really sure what they want from me, well that is other than the signs they carry around with slogans like “Kill the Infidells.”
        I could be wrong but I think that means anyone who’s not them.

        I do know they seem to want the UK to give them more money for welfair as well they also seem to want other things such as I think its spelled, (Shreia Law) I can’t quite fathom why the Brits would want to have such. I am just glad my lease is up very soon.

      • debalazo

        Jana,

        When will you and yours admit it is zionist sponsored ‘multiculturalism’ that helps destroy sovereign countries to afterwards take them away from their rightful owners, the local people, like they did in former Russian Empire by the Bolsheviks, then the Soviets, and finally the ‘Russian’ Mafia? Look at England, France, Greece, Australia, Canada, USA, etc.

        Embedded zionist dual passport traitors in government pass laws to allow open borders of the destitute and radical in the world. Old story. We know all about it. And will stop both the invaders and the traitors. Smell the wind.

      • Jana

        deblazo,
        I don’t see the Israelites cutting the heads off of their wives. I don’t see the Israelites telling everyone if you don’t worship allah you must die. It wasn’t the Israelites that have been going around the world murdering others and being suicide bombers.
        You have no leg to stand on.

      • dr reality check

        Okay, strange bullet, we get it, you live in a world of conspiracy theories to explain your bubble of a world. I want you to know that I’ve personally contacted the Overton Window to hire Mossad to investigate your claims and fluoridate your water. Elvis is alive and he isn’t pleased with you.

      • BDOG

        AND PEOPLE STILL DON’T THINK HE’S A MUSLIM.

      • debalazo

        BirdDog,
        Why are you promoting the zionist propaganda that oBUMa is MooseSlim? His mother IS jew and his grand pops were jews! He is a Manchurian Candidate with all the trimmings, and ALL his papers hidden from everybody so he can usurp the presidency and get away with it.

        And all his handlers are zionists. Don’t you surf the net instead of watch ABCNNBCBSFOX?

        But the zionist shield around him is already crumbling. He will be indicted on subversion and usurpation of the highest office in the land. OUCH!

      • debalazo

        Jana,
        Your comments are quite naive. oBUMa the illegal alien from Kenya, is actually a crossed African with jew blood. And the mother predominates, so he is actually a jew, not an Islamist. The fanfare of his customes and head rolls is just a put on for naive, dumbed down Amerikhans. He is as Muslim for saying ‘Mooselim’, as Pancho Villa was Gringo for raiding Columbus, New Mexico. Remember? If you are American, that is.

      • Bruce D.

        And with that kind of comment you call Jana naive?????????

      • Jana

        debalazo,
        You are an Israeliaphobic. Your hatred for them and your fear of them is showing.

      • Brad

        Time,

        Well said my friend, the truth hurts but libs will only open their eye’s when the enemy is upon them and then ask for help, it’s almost too late.

      • spitfire

        Brad it sounds to me like the libs will join the enemy or maybe they are the enemy of the state!!! They will not call for help as they see us as the enemy and want us all gone no matter what.

      • Brad

        So true Spitfire.

      • Ted Crawford

        It certainly makes one wonder just where they do stand when you hear their pundits like Alan Colmes and Sam Donaldson singing the praises of Al Jezeera dosen’t it? It would seem that they have become the enemy!

      • Jana

        Ted Crawford,
        I certainly consider them my enemy. They stand for everything that is Anti America and Anti God.

      • eddie47d

        Al Jazeera is actually considered an open news source in the Middle East and criticizes those countries also. If we want an open and free press in that region then they are your best bet.(not perfect but hopeful)

      • Kinetic1

        Eddie,
        I’m afraid your words will fall on blind eyes. Facts about the large and varied nature of the Muslim community (not unlike the Christians) seem to have little chance of gaining a foothold around here. I hope I’m wrong, but it seems like they all know the “truth” and have little use for facts.

      • Bruce D.

        Eddie I actually like Ajazeera News station. I go between that and Fox News all the time. The rest of the news stations including BBC I find boring.

      • TIME

        Brad,
        I agree we have many problems that are just about to come to the surface so even the blind can see them. And its not going to be very long.

      • BDOG

        AN IGNORANT VOTE IS A DANGEROUS VOTE AND SO MANY LIBS DON’T EVEN SEE IT COMING.

      • eddie47d

        …and those who voted for Bush are then doubly dangerous. Sorry I couldn’t resist.

      • BDOG

        EDDY47D, I HAVE SEEN YOU POST HERE BEFORE , I DON’T THINK ANYONE GIVES A CRAP WHAT YOU THINK ANYWAY.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        eddie,
        boy! They learnabout you REAL quick!!!

      • eddie47d

        That is there loss if they can’t accept a difference of opinion.

      • RUDY

        What no one seems to want to pay attention to, is that OBAMA HIMSELF said that he would side with ISLAM when things got nasty. That is precisely what he is doing. He is working to orchestrate a majority world control through Islam, and that spells world chaos for us all. The muslims are a bunch of fanatically insane unguided missels, for lack of a better term, and they can only function on two purposes, murder anyone who is not muslim, and eradicate Israel. It has nothing to do with oil, although it does affect it, it has nothing to do with anything other than the two above cited circumstances. They are mindless zealots who will go to any extreme, and have no common sense. Obama is the conductor for all this and I can’t BELIEVE that anyone listens to this long eared jackass braying. I just want to projectile vomit any time I see his nasty face or hear his crawly voice. He is the epitome of the function of evil and destruction, and everyone just acts like we are dealing with just another presidency. Heh, we are dealing with setting up for having it all to turn into the middle east over here, because no one will take this jackanapes DOWN. Our own govt has turned against us using the very same tools which brought the ayatollah into Iran, and Mubarak himself had Sadat assassinated, so although he might be less radical than the muslim brotherhood, he was not a great guy either. Obama in telling him to step down just basically sanctioned his demise. He will get to LIKE this power, as he does all his destructive actions, and he will turn on US again. Wake up. Egypt is in trouble, but it spells WORSE DAYS for us if we don’t get things taken care of HERE! We have a prophetic scene playing out right in front of our eyes, we need to take heed and take action, or we will see it for real here. Except in OUR case, the military will fire on us. Believe it!

      • marvin

        RUDY
        coming to a street near you like egypt,can this take place here you bet will it mostlikely, but we god frearing american try talk then action,the talking is just about over,i do not care or need anyone to tell me what to eat dress sleep or who to agree with ,i am an american citizen,NOT A SUBJECT TO HIS GRATENESS WANT TO BE KING EL CID OBAMA or the liberal agenda,but we in the tea party want to steal al brain dead sharptons CROWN,if we did i would melt it down and make ammo from it

      • marvin

        TIME
        kinda of like what merkel of germany said multi culture is not working they don,t want to fit in they [immigrents]don,t want to change they want you to change wonder where she got that idea could it be from fact all over the world where islam is the religion and we are blind or just plain stuped to see

      • http://none mike duff

        In New York City Streets are blocked off for Muslim pray time. However it has also been happening on Main Street in Bethel, CT for a Christian service every Sunday morning for many years. Read the Koran and learn to fear.

      • Bruce D.

        Nice post Time. There are a lot of Muslims who want to impose Sharia Law on the rest of the world. It is not just a select few that Obama claims. O’rielly has had Muslims on his show who understand and enjoy western freedoms. The question is how many Muslims truly are looking for freedom and how many want to be dominated by strict adherence to the Koran and Sharia law politically.

      • FLEURDELYS

        The reason there are no muslims in China or in its neighborhood is because they don’t feed on dogs, cats and pets…as the locals do

    • Mike Keller

      Well I have read many of the responses to the report, and I agree, the Oboma Islamic group, ei. him and Clinton, are doing a very good job of making sure we become a Islamic state real quick. I know some if not most is saying right now, well there’s another idiot, no there in Government right now. I know no name calling, well I’m not! I’m like Rush, when is the truth name calling! I think that MJ Montana is not as informed as he should be. Mr Montana, take a look at History if you will. Who attacked us on 911? Who did we have blow up the US Cole battle Ship, who did we fight in Afghanistan, when they drug our dead troops through the streets so the world could see what they were doing to anyone who questioned them. Sir I could go on and on with stories, but how many do you need if you are an American to get you upset at Islamics terrorist, and we nor did we make Iraq a “Democracy” we made them a representative republic, just like us sir, not a democracy, look up the difference!

      • spitfire

        Are we really a Republic, or just wish we still were?? I think we have become a democracy in a very short time, and are headed for the last round-up like all democracies.

      • kate8

        spitfire – I have noticed for some time now that EVERYONE, regardless of political persuasion, refers to us as a “democracy”. I’ve not heard anyone use the term “republic” in as long as I can remember.

        It makes me cringe every time.

      • Carlucci

        Exactly. Democracy = Mob rule. D.C. = Federal Mafia.

      • Bruce D.

        I agree democracy is mob rule. It especially will not work in Iraq as the country is divided 70-30. The 30% wanted a say in government and without a Republic they would not have gotten that.

      • Bruce D.

        Democracy is the dream of Communists with the ultimate prize of one party rule. The goal of Progressives is to expand government so that it has total dominance over individuals and businesses to promote social welfare with the idea that they can control government with the vote once it has dominance over individuals. We need to acknowledge that we have inalienable rights as individuals and people cannot be voting on that. Governments need to be restricted with original intent of the Constitution with is under a constant assault.

      • bear

        Whoa Spitfire……..It’s been a while since we blew past the Democracy scene. We are strong into the Socialist/Marxist part of the indoctrination phase of full blown dictatorship and Communism. These politicians who are herding us are not Democrats. They are what we truly know as “progressive liberals.” Their agenda is to strip America of all its riches, eliminate the middle class and establish themselves at the center of the anthill as the elitists and us the ants. You and your desires for freedom, by their means, will become as irrelevant as which way the wind blows. Better believe this.

      • skip

        Where do the Koch Brothers, Wall Street, Big Insurance, and the other big lobbies fit in your description of who is herding us? Are they the so-called “progressive liberals?” It is a given that our congress and now our judicial system is controlled by big-money elites – where is the money coming from? Do you know, and can you tell us? I don’t think it is coming from the middle class, or the working man – they are essentially out of play.

    • 45caliber

      A lot of the problem is that liberals (particularly in Washington) have this wonderful fantasy of what the world should be like. And they are certain that most people have the same fantasy. So they are willing to believe that any action by the people anywhere in the world is a step toward democracy – their belief is that this is the best form of government as long as they are in charge. And they will be in charge since everyone (or at least the majority) believes that they are the perfect people to rule – not govern. And if the people doesn’t vote for what they want it is because the people are not allowed to vote or blinded or fooled or simply stupid. Everyone KNOWS that their fantasy is the best and they are the best people to do it.

    • JUKEBOX

      Never forget, a true democracy is three wolves and one lamb voting on their dinner for that day!

  • s c

    America’s foreign policy chickens are coming home to roost – again. America’s foreign policy wizards ‘gave’ us Mubarak a long time ago. They knew they could play him like a cheap violin (as long as American taxpayers foot the bills). When it came time to dump Mubarak and create another crisis, our “leaders” could rewrite history, be in a position to advise the prez and Congress and expect another generation of Americans to bend over and smile.
    It’s deja vu all over again, so to speak. This time around, we’re stuck with a tap-dancing wunderkind in the White House. Does anyone out there really think this used-up dictator plus an inept, untalented wunderkind scenario wasn’t orchestrated many years ago?
    The temptation to re-write history before it happens is an old fact-of-life in Washington. Some call it foreign policy. Some call it perpetual elitism. Whatever you call it, America gets hosed again.

    • RPH1045

      You need not to worry our great president Oduma8s had this done on Egypt and all the rest of those middle east countries. Its in his interest so he can destroy Israel and raise oil prices for his cap & tax on oil so he will have the money to run his World order Oduma-ss wants to rule the world HE IS A REAL NUT

      • skip

        Our Middle East policy for the last 60 some years has been uni-dimensional. Obama has been in office just two years, and there are 60 years of blunders and supporting non-popular governments to assure an oil supply that is never going to be enough to satisfy the needs of the world, let alone us. Can you not think beyond the next two weeks and your short term investments and interests? Our policies have destabilized the entirety of the Middle East – Iran now unopposed after Iraq was reduced to rubble; Saudi nationals organizing the 9-11 catastrophe while we funneled as much money as we could to the Saudi monarchy for the last 50 years, etc. You have to be insane to blame Obama or anyone else for not solving this mess in 2 years – it will take decades at a minimum, unless, of course, you employ the nuclear/military option, which will absolutely assure that our oil supplies from abroad will cease. Quit assigning blame to Obama, and realize that our foreign policy has had no long term vision or morality. We are now reaping the rewards of our short-sightedness and intractable cow-towing to oil interests abroad and at home. The Koch brothers control our foreign policy more than Obama or Hilary!

      • 45caliber

        All foreign policy concerning the Mid-East was vetted through the oil companies until a few years ago – and mostly still are. Back years ago (during the ’70s) any foreign policy request to the Mid-East was based on allowing them to raise their oil prices. Several of the leaders then were hesitant about raising prices, fearing that any raise in price would be shunned by the American people. The oil companies and Washington both assured them that we would never do that. I think it is one of the reasons that Washington refuses to drill here for oil now. They have a bunch of treaties with them to not do so, to keep buying regardless of the price.

      • Cliffystones

        “the nuclear/military option, which will absolutely assure that our oil supplies from abroad will cease.”

        Not if we use neutron bombs!

      • always right

        Sure, its been festering since the 70′s. We can thank the greens, the party of barry, for that. We could have been supplying and refining our own oil for 40 years now but they saw to it that we didn’t. AWAR got taken out of play by the leftists even though it is nothing but mud flat where they’re drilling now. Then the co-presidunces and their enviro-lackies locked up much of our coastal and western oil reserves by making then “wilderness” and forbidding coastal offshore drilling. And then the 0-bomb shut down our own oil drilling in the gulf so the Chinese and Cuba can come in and drill in our stead, even though a court overruled his dicktatorial decree. Sorry guy but the left is sole owner of these oil problems, the national debts due to oil, the devaluation of the dollar as a medium of trade for oil, the lack of domestic production and refining and the wealth we’ve lavished on the muslim despots since the 70′s. You own it, bubba.

      • Bruce D.

        Nice post Misguided. Enough experts have said green energy will not solve our energy problems at this time, that we need to use every source of energy we have to be independent. Natural gas and nuclear energy should have been pushed in addition to oil. Can anyone not say that in addition to the mortgage crisis the outflow of cash for gasoline and oil is also responsible for our financial meltdown over the last two years thanks to the greens and the left for their lack of common sense. And of course Obama has Zero tolerance for common sense which he has proven with his energy policy, his health care reform, and his handling of the gulf oil spill.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Always wrong, the earth is not your to rape and pillage so that you can keep driving your humvee. I realize that it takes a higher vision to see yourself past the carbon age but don’t be so scared it can and will be done.

      • Bruce D.

        Political nonesense Eric.

      • Kim

        Well said, always right. We have enough oil reserves here in the US to thumb our noses at the middle east’s hold over us. Thanks to the uninformed and misguided tree huggers, we are still dependent on imports…

      • FLEURDELYS

        Indeed Skip. I am glad you made it clear for the rest of the audience. Some of them are just looking to blame our president Obama for the whole legendary and the history of the world just because they don’t like the guy. They just dismissed the 60 years where Obama wasn’t born yet. To me it is more than being a bunch of cowards blinding themselves from the reality.

      • debalazo

        “FLEURDELYS says:
        …just looking to blame our president Obama… just because they don’t like the guy… a bunch of cowards blinding themselves from the reality.”

        Fleury, Obongo is not a president but an imposter. An illegal alien, subversive for Zionists, his puppetmasters, with Mossad rigging his votes in Diebold’s computers, and the Rothschilds financing the scam.

        Like the guy? Not even his cranky wife! She despises him especially after learning of his homo affair with Mr. Sinclair in a limousine, and his pot use as a youth.

        And the blind are the fools who cheered him since Chicago and still are waiting for a promised check every month to pay their bills.

        Reality though, is catching up with Obongo: Again the public wants to see his Birth Certificate. Do you know the penalty for usurping the presidency? Only a pot fool and blackmailed homo would dare serve his masters as he did.

      • Pat R

        The problems in Egypt are not basically from Obama. Believe it or not; this is being done to dissolve OPEC. OPEC is not a middle-east org. It had it’s birth here in the good ole USA. Thanks to Rockefellor and Bush. (I am not a Bush basher; in fact i liked Bush until I learned what he did to the Twin Towers. People wake up! 911 was an inside cover-up for the removal (theft) of tons of Gold from under the Towers by Bush and others. Tower 7 had to be destroyed to get rid of documents that were kept there. The chemical from in the dust was only made in Israel at that time. The airplanes were controlled from the ground, there were no TERRORISTS ON THOSE PLANES. The security films showing Atta and others in the airport were doctored; date and time was blurred and unreadable. If these guys were aboard these planes and died; why have some of them been found alive and well in other countries?
        The CIA is nothing but a Criminal org. They run the drug smuggling and Drug Cartels to fund Alquada! You don’t want to get in their way. They are Criminals.
        We have been lied to for decades.

        https://www.freeconferencing.com/playback.html?cn=94-43-28-63&e=2243221200000&cid=conferences/-17-65-6759-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-67126-17-65-67-17-65-6783-17-65-6753122121-17-65-67-17-65-670.mp3

      • Notlob

        PatR is living in his own exclusive world where no realty exists. He is a virtual voice and nearly alone!

      • debalazo

        “Notlob says:
        PatR is living in his own exclusive world where no realty exists. He is a virtual voice and nearly alone!”

        Unfortunatelly for those who extoll the dirty accomplishments of the beast from Zion, the evidence both photographic and verbal is such, only needed is a gutsy American President elected by the people, not by rigged computers tallied by terrorist Mossad, and cheered upon by dual-passport, dual-loyatly, israel-first Demoncreatures in Washington, to investigate, indict, and punish all the perpetrators of 911.

        To all complicit, ignorant, or naive, watch 911 Mysteries, 911 Missing Links, 911 Zero, and listen to the caught-off-guard declarations of such creatures as Silverstein, Rumsfeld, Bush Jr, Guiliani, and ilk, added to the uncovered actions of subversives such as Chertoff, Mukasey, Zekheim, Cheney, and the treasonous acts of all the government letter soup agencies involved in the cover up of that crime.

        The time to pay the piper is just around the corner.

      • Bruce D.

        This is one of those sites Notlob where some will think they are a lot more intelligent than you for disagreeing with ParR.

      • http://None Ray Rourke

        A good example of being sick in the head

      • debalazo

        “Ray Rourke says:
        A good example of being sick in the head”

        A good example of poor defense by a Freudian amateur psychologist, of the criminals who rigged the Towers, the terrorist Mossad, with Marvin Bush looking the other way, and turning off power so the security cameras wouldn’t catch the faces of the perpetrators for posterity. The ones Chertoff and Mukasey, dual-passport zionists, packed and sent to Tel Aviv before anyone could inquire on their activities on 911. Or was it SecuraCom, the israeli owned ‘security’ agency at WTC and at Logan airport, who shut down the cameras and dismissed the sniffing dogs while the rigging took place? And the Beast will be cast into Abyss for a thousand years.

      • Vicki

        I notice that most everyone went immedatly to demonizxing PatR typically using ad hominem attacks rather than countering his assertions which he provided links to his evidence.

        This leads me to consider that PatR is on to something and it should be investigated.

      • Marten

        What about ”Chertoff” he was a key part of the team that helped the FBI (Federal Bureau of Idiots)cover-up their role in the 1993 bombing of the WTC…He is the best example of the Self-propelled human garbage…what a scum bag…He’s still a busy man and he’s been at this fake terrorism scam, a long, long time……

      • Tazio2013

        PatR & debalazo,

        Welcome to the “truth tellers; it’s refreshing to read you words, especially with so many PDL pinheads in the audience.

      • FLEURDELYS

        Why does it have to be always about your interest ?
        Expecting the whole middle east to give up their freedom, their rights.Living under fear of torture if they use any free speech just for you to get cheap oil for your car. Why can’t you educate yourself with all the technology we got in USA and find a solution to your oil crisis.
        Our president campaigned on democracy, freedom since the day one as well as Bush declaring freedom in the middle east and others before…

      • EddieW

        Obaba is probably hoping that Islam will take over Egypt when Mubarak gets kicked out…I thought they wanted Freedom and Democracy not sharia lawe and slavery!!!

    • Misanthrope in Seattle

      I disagree with SC’s premise that the tumult in Egypt was “orchestrated by the White House several years ago.” Myers has it right: the Obama Administration’s lack of a cogent message and political soft-shoe clearly indicates that the White House and the CIA have been caught asleep at the wheel…. again.

      Obama needs to WAKE UP to the fact that a stable supply of oil is critical to the world-wide economic recovery and US national security and therefore demands his administration’s full attention. The fact that the situation in Egypt has caught him off guard supports the conclusion that he just doesn’t fathom the gravity of the issue which, in turn, portends ill consequences to the US and the global economy in the short term.

      • Bruce D.

        Obama doesn’t have a clue because creating jobs has a lot to do with whether people are satisfied with government or not. Even China understands that. Creating and maintaining government jobs only erodes the middle class more. It appears that many lost their jobs in Iraq because of the war which helped to sustain them. Mubarak being a military man put most of the 1.5 billion dollars we gave him into the military which will come back to bite us if the Brotherhood takes control of the country which seem likely because of the strick adherehence to the Koran and its commitment to jihad.

      • Jana

        Bruce d.
        You have a point there. People don’t trust our current Gov’t. Obama has done nothing to give us any hope of trusting them either. All we see is more of the same ol same ol, only much much worse, because he ran on an open policy and has lied.

    • American Patriot
    • patrick H.T. paine

      “To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!!”

      Greetings MORONS,

      How are you all doing today? Who the (offensive words removed)
      gets up at this hour of the day to spout THEIR opinion about this crap? Seriously?

      The state of Islam is PSYCHOTIC. It is beginning, as you can see, to
      emerge from its own dark age…..similar to europe in the middle ages
      prior to Guttenburg. When this happened, christianity went every which
      way…..take your pick.

      Ever wonder why there are only two referential branches of Islam?
      Sunni and Shi’ite? ( there are more, but none significant to sweat
      the details )

      Most of the billion Islamist’s are illiterate. They rely on what the Quran says ( Koran wtf ) and means, through “intrepretation”. ( Does this concept sound vaguely familiar? )

      Even if they can READ, they have not read it in CLASSICAL ARABIC, and
      this makes a world of difference, especially to those who CAN read
      classical arabic. ( Does this sound vaguely familiar? )

      What is our interest here…..NONE! oops! I forgot, we are being exposed “once again”, for the hypoctites and mercenaries that we are.
      ( and that’s not quite correct, because it’s your elected government,
      and the corporations that have corrupted it that have an interest
      here, and maybe YOU in you work for them, or benefit )

      How ridiculous are we, to listen our “government” spouting the concept
      of the people of egypt having the right to have their grievances
      addressed by their government, when they are deaf to our’s?

      Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.

      • patrick H.T. paine

        “To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!!!”

        Clarification: I have obviously used the descriptive term, “Morons”,
        in the nicest possible way.

        What is more interesting was the “censorship of so called offensive
        word”, but no word was used….because the word is an acronym….
        the phrase was used, for unlawful carnel knowledge, with the first
        letters capitalised, and followed by P.eriods. Who designs a “program”
        to catch that, and if not a program, what intelligent human would
        find that phrase offensive? Bold unrestricted legitimate language
        should heighten intelligent thinking? I wonder if that will be
        offensive?

        Personally, I find concepts like “saving our democracy” extremely
        offensive……but it appears that one can, over time, reduce the
        definitive meaning of words, by continuously repeating them
        in an erroneous context, until the usage becomes accepted, and
        the etymological history deconstructed.

        Ignorance is strength! Y’all have a nice day.

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