Carole,
Nixon was nothing but a stupid LIAR!! When he was on the air saying we had no ground troops in Cambodia, my unit was flying them in every day!! When he was talking about the troop transports that were leaving Ton Son Nuit, he never said a word about the fact that each one came there FULL!! The fact that I say he was stupid comes from the FACT that he recorded every wrong deed that he did! I guess he started to believe his daughter when she said “My dad should be KING of the United States!”

What do you mean, no one’s saying anything about the girl. By now we should all know her whole life history with all the publicity. She was there because she was just voted into her class council and was interested in politics.

Joe must have been watching MSNBC and watching only the radical rants and none of the real news.

Carole – If that’s true, it’s because they fear Obama will have them taken out, too.

No doubt they received a visit, and were told how things work in DC now. I’ve heard that is SOP now.

I seem to remember that most of the mass murderers in recent times have been some kind of fundamentalist whacko. I invite you to name some conservative killers in the last 100 years.

He pushed Obamacare, Cap and Trade, and a myriad of other legislation that will “SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND”.

JUKEBOX,

Have you noticed that the American middle class are shrinking? That millions of them are being pushed into poverty level,at the same time most of the wealth is concentrated in the hands of the top 7%, they get richer and we get poorer, our wages have been stagnant for years and years, but they get richer and richer by many times over.

Did you complain about that wealth, being spread away from the masses and going straight to the top? You approve of that do you? What a fool. Or maybe you belong to that tiny group eh?

No, I do not have a position in the Obama administration or in the Democrat Congress. That’s where a lot of those at the top of the wealth obelisk are.

Karolyn – You have GOT to be kidding.

Have you really not been paying attention to what everyone is saying?

What you are saying is not what ALL Americans feel or think. They are not your clones and they don’t expect you to be theirs.

eddie – I’m well aware that there are Obama sycophants out there. Yourself, for instance.

I am also aware that there are many more who think as I do. And our numbers are gaining all the time.

Don’t be so paranoid the sun will come up tomorrow so have a little faith.

Actually….the cause of the duel was something Hamilton stated in a private conversation about Burr’s daughter. What it was exactly that was stated by Hamilton was never disclosed. It’s a popular theory that the rumor was planted by Jefferson for Hamilton to repeat and Jefferson’s plotting was to rid himself of two political enemies in one shot (so to speak). Whomever was victorious in the duel would be discredited and no longer a political threat to Jefferson….and the loser would be a threat to no one.

Hope that helped set the record straight…

BTW…how do you define what a Founding father to be? Involved in the Declaration of Independence, signer of the Constitution, or one who signed both? Or would it be who were the delegates to the Constitutional Convention? Or would it be those who drew up and signed he Articles of Confederation? Or maybe the members of the First (or Second) Continental Congress? Or the members of the Confederation Congress? Or the first Congress of the United States?

Dang Kate 8 you have become whacko!!

Delores – All they are doing is perpetuating anger and differences. If more people would just shut the f up and let things go, we wouldn’t have so much dissension, anger and hate.

Karolyn – Yes, of course. If we’d just stop arguing with the Left’s assertions and agree that it’s all the fault of the Right, in spite of the fact that the Left is FAR more guilty of what they accuse…if we’d just forfeit our right to free speech and hand over all of our God-given rights and just SHUT UP ALREADY, this would all go away.

AAAARRRrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.

Kate 8, Give some examples of something the left has said that tops this.

I am not saying kill all the liberals, leave one or two in the colleges ……..Rush Limbaugh

Top that or at least match it with something said by someone on the left.

Carole, I don’t have a compiled list because I don’t care what people say. We have free speech.

Limbaugh was making a joke. He also knew that the liberals would run with it, and he was, of course, right.

I refer you to several posts on yesterdays thread where JeffH posted two lengthy lists of horrible things said by the Left, and NOT in jest. I recommend you check them out, because he did a far better job than I could.

But I doubt you will. You are not interested in the truth.

Carole – I figured you weren’t serious, so I went ahead and copied this for you: (This is only one of two posts)

JeffH says:
January 12, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Columnist John Hawkins-Violent Liberal Hate Rhetoric: Fifteen Quotes

Conservatives have long since been willing to stand up and say that they oppose political violence and threats coming from our side – as well we should. So, when will Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama finally stand up and condemn the ocean of violence and hatred being spewed by their friends, supporters.

“A spoiled child (Bush) is telling us our Social Security isn’t safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. Well, here’s your answer, you ungrateful whelp: [audio sound of 4 gunshots being fired.] Just try it, you little b*stard. [audio of gun being cocked].” — A “humor bit” from the Randi Rhodes Show

“I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health” — New York city councilman Charles Barron

“..And then there’s Rumsfeld who said of Iraq ‘We have our good days and our bad days.’ We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say ‘This is one of our bad days’ and pull the trigger.” — From a fundraising ad put out by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club

“I believe in ecoterrorism.” — James Cameron

“…In an ideal world, American consumers could be convinced to do the right thing through an appeal to logic with public service messages like the ‘What Would Jesus Drive?’ TV campaign, but the kind of people who would buy a car that increases the risk to other motorists in an accident can’t be reasoned with. They’re selfish and stupid. It’s unfortunate that drivers must worry that their SUVs are being targeted by insulting stickers and Molotov cocktails, but one thing’s for sure: It couldn’t be happening to a more deserving group of people.” — Ted Rall winks at ecoterrorism

“F*** God D*mned Joe the God D*mned Motherf*cking plumber! I want Motherf*cking Joe the plumber dead.” — Liberal talk show host Charles Karel Bouley on the air.

“Republicans don’t believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don’t give a hoot about human beings, either can’t or won’t. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.” — The Village Voice’s Michael Feingold, in a theater review of all places

(Rush Limbaugh)” just wants the country to fail. To me that’s treason. He’s not saying anything different than what Osama Bin Laden is saying. You might want to look into this, sir, because I think Rush Limbaugh was the 20th hijacker but he was just so strung out on Oxycontin he missed his flight. … Rush Limbaugh, I hope the country fails, I hope his kidneys fail, how about that?” — Wanda Sykes

“You guys see Live and Let Die, the great Bond film with Yaphet Kotto as the bad guy, Mr. Big? In the end they jam a big CO2 pellet in his face and he blew up. I have to tell you, Rush Limbaugh is looking more and more like Mr. Big, and at some point somebody’s going to jam a CO2 pellet into his head and he’s going to explode like a giant blimp. That day may come. Not yet. But we’ll be there to watch. I think he’s Mr. Big, I think Yaphet Kotto. Are you watching, Rush?” — Chris Matthews

“I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow….I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.” — Bill Maher

“If I got (Condi Rice) a— on camera, I would put my Mars Air Jordans so far up her butt that the Mayo Clinic would have to remove them.” — Spike Lee

“O&A – ‘Condoleezza Rice’”
Charlie – “I’d love to f— that b*tch dude” (laughter)

Charlie – “She’s the F—in man”

O&A – “yeah”

Charlie – “I’d F…that b*tch….”

O&A – “I just imagine the horror in Condoleezza Rice’s face….”

- “(laughter) ….. as she realizes what’s going on”

- “…as you were just holding her down and F’n her.”

Charlie – “punch her all the F’n face, shut the F— up b*tch”

O&A – “that’s exactly what I meant” (laughter in background)

Charlie – “you know F— it …. and George Bush wife? I’d F— that b*tch to death” — “Shock Jocks” Opie & Anthony talk rape & violence with their guest “Homeless Charlie.”

“For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?” — University Professor Ward Churhill on supporting soldiers who frag their officers

“Drudge? Aw, Drudge, somebody ought to wrap a strong Republican entrail around his neck and hoist him up about six feet in the air and watch him bounce.” — Liberal radio host, Mike Malloy

“I know how the ‘tea party’ people feel, the anger, venom and bile that many of them showed during the recent House vote on health-care reform. I know because I want to spit on them, take one of their ‘Obama Plan White Slavery’ signs and knock every racist and homophobic tooth out of their Cro-Magnon heads.” — The Washington Post’s Courtland Milloy

Yeah, Kate, just keep beating it and beating it and beating it. Does it make you feel better?

Kate is on a roll, watch out! I feel sorry for you Kate, ~

what terrible force must drive you.

Wait, Karolyn. Carole asked me to at least match her quote from Limbaugh, so I complied.

True to form, the liberal gets a pass and I get blame.

LMAO.

Guess what? The tables are turning. Don’t like it much, do ya?

And you are right. After this latest stunt you guys pulled, all bets are off. You’re going to get everything you dish out thrown right back at you.

Ya gone and went too far this time. Yer not gonna get away with it no mo.

Honestly, Kate, it seems like you’ve really gone off the deep end. I’ve seen you get meaner and meaner every day.

Fed up, Karolyn. Had enough of the idiocy coming from the Left. Had enough of the taking of freedom, the forcing of unwanted laws and programs shoved down our throats, and had enough of the Left using (or perpetrating) incidents like AZ to pass more oppressive laws.

If defending my family, my country and my honor is mean, then so be it.

Carole Howell = I answered your challenge. Where are you?

chirp…chirp…chirp.

And Karolyn – God knows the Left never says anything MEAN.

kate8,
go get em’ girl!!!! Ole’ carole is runnin scared!!!!

Hmm, I don’t know any “media free” 21 year olds, of course how much could a classmate really know? I suppose he could live in a vacuum. I heard he was flaming out with the chicks. Go figure!

They say Sex can be a misdemeanor you know?

The more you miss the meaner you get.

Pat,
And exactly how many of those murders you speak of were performed with LEGALLY OBTAINED guns??? I have owned a gun since I was 12 years old and have never murdered anyone, unless you count combat as murder!

Karolyn…of course it’s another hatchet job. Jumpin’ jehosphat….if these folks could prove a small iota of what they calim, I’d be surprised. C’mon….over this past week they’ve cited the EU Times, a Right Wing blogger, and a ‘friend’ of a loner lunatic shooter as reliable sources for their claims.

Obama has mocked Christians and the Bible a number of times. And when he’s tried to quote it, he’s gotten it wrong.

Heck, it was in San Francisco where he mocked Christians who “clung to their religion and their guns”. The implication here being that he’d like to wrench them both away.

No..the implication was they’re religous zealots who don’t listen to reason, common sense, or think. An implication that’s proven correct every single day.

Tazio,
If you start sweating of a sudden, don’t let it bother you. It’s just God letting you know what you’re in for!!!

it seems that way ~ Chris Mathews can be insufferable in his zeal. He wasn’t all that bad at one time. The whole bunch at MSNBC is caught up in the rock fight. You can be right and still be insufferable.

I wish they’d quit it.

bob wire
you say wish they at msmbc would stop it ,TURN THEM OFF,plain and simple no watch no pay,see how easy that is,no one watch they go away,if you like him or them watch them it is your choice

You have to remember to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I can’t handle much of those tingling leg whackos, I just try to be aware of what vitriol they are spouting.

oh Marvin, ~ I quit watching TV all together for 4 month awhileback, it all got so bad ~ and I was paying good money to watch the crap and the commercials! ~ The quit was nice.

It funny, after a few months went by the cable company came around offered me a deal that was hard to refuse. ~~ so hear I am again!

But I watch them all ~ The women are much prettier of FOX. Hannity makes me want to snatch him bald headed sometimes. Beck is hard to stay connected to.

What I need to do is break out my viola and learn how to play the “Blues” ~ I think I will, something I attempt to do every winter.

Here’s the thing, ~ something big and exciting happens on a nation level and my desire to know what up sucks me back in.

That “MEMORIAL SERVICE” turned into a disgraceful campaign rally for the 2012 Presidential election.

And if he hadn’t spoken, he would have been nailed as an unfeeling person who doesn’t even care about anybody. Actually, I guess it wouldn’t matter, because that’s what most of you think anyway, right?

Honestly, I thought it was a good speech. Eloquent. I didn’t vote for him but did watch the Inaugural and had hope particularly when he talked about all the transparency he would have, nothing hidden, no hidden agendas, and “reachability,” and accountability by his staff, and on and on. I’m sorry to say that speech was just a speech. Hopefully this one last night wasn’t.

liberty – personally, I don’t think there was one whit of sincerety there. The man is cold as ice.

Plus, he benefitted from the incident. I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t know about ahead of time. Maybe even ordered it. He can do that now, you know, since he gave himself that power.

What did he know and when did he know it.

Obama’s fault! Obama’s fault!

At least they can’t blame this one on Bush. Can they?

Kate – I’m sure that in weeks to come because Texas is just a state away from Arizona — it will be determined that it was in fact W’s fault or Cheney. One of the two. Has anyone noted where these two were when this occurred… hmmm.

liberty – You may have a point.

LOL.

libertytrain–I agree with you. Although I did not hear all of it, what I did hear was good.

Sadly true and so many simply don’t understand. Was it Augustine or Thomas Aquinas who said that “Politics is God’s punishment to mankind for sin!” The recent accusations about who was responsible for the assassinations in Tucson seems to confirm that we have little changed in a thousand years, and since there is far more sin in the 21st Century (we would cause ancient pagans to blush) we can expect far more politicking today.
Last night the president said, “At a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do, it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds.” Citing Job from the Old Testament he reminded us “terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding . . . and we have to guard against simple explanations in the aftermath. For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped these shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind.”
He continued with “As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let’s use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways that our hopes and dreams are bound together.” Additionally he added, “I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it (the youngest of the six who were murdered, newly elected school council member, 9 year old Christina Taylor Green who was there to see Democracy in action and to meet her Congresswoman). I want America to be as good as she imagined it. All of us — we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations.”
Most importantly, his speech writers provided him with something that I hope he truly believes (because it is true) and that is that what counts in the long run is “how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in making the lives of other people better.” To that I can only say “Amen” because ultimately that is all that we take with us into Eternity. It was the best speech that the president has ever given. He is, after all, the father of two young daughters.

Richard – You said “and since there is far more sin in the 21st Century (we would cause ancient pagans to blush) we can expect far more politicking today.” I think you are mistaken. There is nothing new under the sun, just more people.

Karolyn – OMG! You quote the Bible!

Actually… pagans would take one look and ask why we’re so hung up on sex in this country.

You can watch TV and have hundreds get wiped out in a gunfight…that’s OK. But a breast nipple showing through thin fabric? whoa … that’s so terrible and we shoud never allow our children to see that !

flash – The sexualization (by the Left) of our children today has been very damaging to them. They are simply not mature enough to understand what it is about. But you guys are so obsessed with it yourselves that you just can’t wait to awaken it in our kids, when they should be focusing on childhood things.

Kate..I knew you’d be screaming about breasts showing on TV. But n comment on allowing them to see hundreds gunned down in an Arnie movie as he racks up the body count ?

Here’s a little task for you to think about. Thjink of the most violent places on this rock we call Earth. I’d say the ME/Arab countries and the US. See any similarities?

1. Both have large numbers of religious zealots, zealots who insist that their religion is the correct one and all others must conform. 2. Both areas allow violence on TV where body counts are considered exciting and permissable for kids to watch.
3. And both areas have HUGE hang ups about sex and educating children about it.

think about that ….

Children should not watch killing either. I’ll bet the shooter watched a lot of violence.

You are one sick boy.

Flash – You are so right. There is also less rape in countries where sex is not so taboo.

Got anything to back that up, Karolyn?

Well, there is some truth in what you say about numbers, Karolyn, but there has never been a society that killed what would have been one sixth of their population (50,000,000 babies – 306,000,000 people) and then let illegal aliens come across the border to make up the deficiency in numbers, and while several ancient cultures had polygamy and homosexuality among the ruling elite, none ever codified homosexuality into anything like ‘gay marriages’. Of course the punishment that is coming upon the United States and the world may be for other things too, greed, avarice, hate, murder. Famine was a traditional Biblical punishment and it will be interesting to see if it is as bad as I wrote about in THE LAST DAYS…etc. and if we continue to deteriorate morally up until it hits us. There were three mayors in Mexico killed in the first two weeks of this year. Last year only 17 mayors were killed in the whole year. And 31 were killed and many decapitated in Acapulco in less than a week. You wouldn’t find me going into the war zone of Mexico if I won an all expense paid trip. I just heard of a big Mexican Drug bust in Myrtle Beach, SC, and while chapter 12 of my autobiography, LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA is entitled, “Myrtle Beach and Drug Smuggling” it was Americans selling drugs years ago, now it’s bands of illegal aliens who like to cut off heads. That was never something that happened in the western world except on extremely rare occasions in the last hundred years. We are becoming an uncivilized nation and there are many who think we are headed for third world status and a new dark age is going to descend upon us. The Pope in Rome said as much month ago and while you may oppose his religion he is hardly a religious fanatic prone to say irrational things. He too can see the signs. All I can say is get ready. You will see less of me on here because it mainly the same people with the same complaints. Get ready. Learn about canning and non-perishable food, think like a pioneer, trust in God to lead you (make sure it’s God and not something else). You have heard it all before. Life as we know it is going to change more in the next 15 years than in the last 15 years, Remember 15 years ago when our biggest concern was Bill Clinton’s love life and stuff like that. From here on out it is going to get more and more interesting. Did you know that illegal aliens have committed in excess of one million sex crimes in this nation? That was true when I published my last book so it’s undoubtedly out of date by now. “May you live in interesting times” was an ancient Chinese curse, and I predict that the next two decades are going to be among the most interesting in the past several hundred years. Hope you are around to see. Just remember that you can always pray for guidance and direction and one of the things that can help you ascertain if the spirit you are in touch with is God or something else is this, a spirit from God will never tell you anything that conflicts with the Bible. That is a fail-safe but of course I’m talking about a common sense straight forward approach. Not some convoluted interpretation such as those who were going to protest the funerals in Tucson. They are misguided tools of the dark side. There are many things in the Bible that even those who read it frequently don’t see. Only God can help you understand some things but you won’t be the only one. To much to tell. Many who don’t know what I just said have been deceived and we have 3,000 cults in this country as a result. There will be those who would rather die than acknowledge God’s love for them and they may. However, it is not God’s way to force people or to use fear to convert them. In that Flashman’s complaints about zealots is somewhat accurate. There is only one God and he is the Creator of all that is. You can’t go wrong reading the gospels and ACTS for inspiration or the two books I have recommended elsewhere (other than my own). May we all someday discover how very much God loves us. God bless you and may you continue to grow.

And, please, no comments from the god squad and the jesus freaks.

Suggest that you go back to school and learn how to write, spell and punctuate.

You don’t always follow the rules, particularly on capitalization of proper nouns. Some of the rules are okay with you yet somehow you’re free to make up a few of your own but others may not?

Yes.

You are definitely a true leftist liberal.

libertytrain – At least he’s honest about it. That must be worth something, but I’m not sure what.

Kate8 I’m sure we haven’t heard the last of him. He’s just like the others, can’t stay away, but I believe he’s the first that admitted that the rules don’t always apply to him. Perhaps he’s a white house staffer – he wouldn’t be the first one to make an appearance.

I do watch fox noise primarily to confirm the fact that palin beck is a complete and utter fool.

I don’t watch much on TV but I must say I do read and have not ever heard of that person.

Google “portmanteau” and maybe then you will understand my meaning.

Sweetie, Google “tongue in cheek” and you may understand mine.

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

I love that! I’ll have to remember it.

Better than a battle of arms with an unwitted man.

Good comment, marvin.

And Tazio is a jerk.

kate8 – remember he’s a “staffer.”

libertytrain,
So we should care about that???? Just another mindless fool trying to sound macho…….And failing!!

Pleased indeed that you read The Daily Bell story. Apparently this level of objectivity re things that matter is beyond the scope of the typical PLD reader.

Actually Juke…China can’t call that debt due. not without going under with us. Read Econ 101 and perhaps later we can discuss it.

~ and your point is? The shooter wasn’t picky and harbored not bias? Young , old, no matter all rich targets!

well perhaps your thoughts might hold water if it there was no scheduled reason for this assemble of mixed citizens.

As is, Go Fish!

Marvin,
What? Sorry pal, you’re making no sense.

No Right gives anybody the right to abuse those Rights.

eddie, Most people are NOT abusing those rights. Only criminals abuse those rights, and they will always keep their guns.

Can’t disagree with what you have said. Sounds like you are quoting my politcally incorrect book, THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES and the Great Famine that Followed, as I wrote about this and gave actual (put politically incorrect) statistics in various countries and in our own capitol. However, the murder rate by gun took a significant jump of a couple of hundred percent when the government of England dis-armed their honest citizens. Of course the criminals didn’t give up up their guns and the population became easy prey. The same happened in Australia.

Thinking, wonder how the liberals would act if they were told their vehicles were being confiscated due to the fact that automobles kill more people than guns. Can you believe how their crap would hit the fan. Maybe we conservatives can give up our guns after the libs give up their vehicles. This does sound like a good trade off, doesn’t it?

Marvin:

I’m not indicating what my view of the 2nd is in stating this…

but Mexico’s high murder rate by guns is due in large part because of the guns smuggled into Mexico from tis country.

They have as large a problem with smuggling across borders as we do. With us it’s undocumented workers looking for jobs from criminal employers screwing this nation and with drugs (though the drug smuggling issue is not to the large we are being told) … with Mexico, it’s guns guns and guns.

uhhh… why mistah flashman do da guns be smuggled into mexico? do it be cuz dey some demand for ‘em? or,do it jus be a anomaly?

No,easy gun laws in Arizona help fuel the arms trade in that region.

Proven fact, less than 17% of the guns in Mexico come from the US!! We don’t manufacture true AK47s!!

And they (the Mexicans) are flooding this country with their illegal drugs. Of courses, this says we have two many pot heads in this country. If we could lessen our dependence on drugs, maybe their murder rate would drop. So you pot heads out ther who wnat to dimish the murder rate in Mexico, stop your use of illegal drugs. How can you lay your heads down at night, and go to sleep knowing your use of illegal drugs is contributing to these murders?

vacksal,
A guy that used to live down the street from my sister in Dearborn Heights shot an intruder in the leg as he was coming at him. The crook later sued for a stiff leg and won. The guy lost his house over it! Why wasn’t the law disallowing a person to profit from a crime in force then??

Joe, only a liberal jury would do something like this. Most likely to many liberal pot heads on the jury. We need people with clear minds to make rational decisions that serve on these juries.

and just what is it she has in her head, you sure it isn’t all rocks!!

Kate8, I am going to quit responding to these liberals on this forum. You might as well try to talk to a tree. I am just glad to see that we have them out numbered. Thank God!!!!

I said that Jared Loughner was the ONE & ONLY person involved in killing & maming those people in AZ.
Some people make it seem as though he killed because he saw a poster of “crosshairs on her (Sarah Palin’s) website that targeted congressional districts”. Or because of Beck, Limbauh & Hannity are “beating their gums with hate messages”.
Screw you – get lost. Do not take my words out of context. They are plain & simple words.

Robert Smith
only in america is it allowed to blame someone else for your trouble ,it was the bank that made me buy that house i could not afford ,it is allways someone else that made me do it,never man up and say it was my fault,i say if you are that easy to sway to murder inocent people, i would have put alot of dumbass people to sleep,that i dislike but unlike you i know who to blame ,it was a sick minded socialpath that had no bussiness being on the street all the flags were waving the great dem sheriff that has been in law enforcement for 40 years the school the parents his few friends the local cops ,but i forgot it was the right wing nuts fault

You confuse hate messages with the truth. Just because you don’t want to hear it or it doesn’t fit your world view doesn’t mean it’s not true. Whoever said that liberalism is a mental disorder is absolutely correct. What else do you call someone who can’t face reality or accept facts?

Oh, we have another cute 5 year old here!

His response was as insane as putting peanut butter on Brussel Sprouts.

Karolyn – BTW, Did you hear what the shooter’s friends said he was most influenced by? Christian broadcasting? NO!

ZEITGEIST.

Gee, he probably found out about it from a blogger, too. Maybe you! Maybe YOU are responsible!

No, I hadn’t heard that one yet. Maybe you should watch it Kate. It might open your mind a little. I think you would like at least part of it because there is a part about government conspiracies. the movie is all-encompassing, neither right nor left, leaving no rocks unturned.

Karolyn – I watched Zeigeist a long time ago. I told you that already.

Maybe you should not be so easily influenced by every anti-God book and film that comes along. These people have an agenda, too.

I look at most everything, but I have a mind, too.

As do I.

Kate I read no anti-God books, and neither was Zeitgeist.

I’m pretty sure it didn’t.

America was carved out of the wilderness, with everything a man & women could bring to bear.

Hopes & Dreams, rocks & mud, sweat & blood,~ and their children.

Now, if you want to discuss hardware Trigger Finger, it’s purely sub topic and a incidental.

Juke-
The same govrnment interferors shake their heads wondering how this nation got built at all without unions, OSHA, ACLU, NOW, NAACP, the Rainbow oalition, gun control, or them running the show! Not to mention the strong open belief in God and family that was allowed to run rampant through the veins of the citizery, unchecked by the Supreme Court and legions of (at the time) special subversive interest whiners. How did our ancestors ever make it?

JUKEBOX
if memory serves me in 2004 and 05 the dembocrats used the same set of cross hairs on repub dist to plot their take over of congress but that was ok then

Progressives and Dummycrats have total immunity from repercussions, given to them by their leaders.

of what pray tell?

Hey Richard, has the mass exit from the military started yet? Do you have any numbers to reflect that claim?

Rob

Anyone who has been in the service knows you can’t just quit when you want to. If you could I think I would have called it quits about the third or fourth week of basic training, as that was the toughest physical training I had ever done, but in eight weeks I had put on 20 pounds of muscle and was in the best physical shape I had ever been in. I have a hunch our poor economy with 25 MILLION plus looking for work will encourage some to stay who might otherwise choose to leave when “their tour of duty is up.”

And will not use the US military for a ride to the tropics for vacation, too.

You mean a vacation to his home state is your objection? For all presidents or just this one?

FYI … to this day Palin has not visited the part of Alaska where on can see Russian territory. Your other part where you misquote pres. Obama….the actual quote came during the Stimulus Summit where the GOP objected to givng tax credits to the poor. Pres. Obama pointed out that there woud be philosophical diffrences on that issue and “I won. So I think on that one, I trump you.”

That’s what the Right objects to about using facts..they get in the way of the lies and rants…

I am on your side, Marvin.

No Flash you noted You own a trucking Company.

As to the tin foil caps – Norm and Flash, I got it right.
Enjoy your pretzel world, and just keep on being U’s.

“January 13, 2011 at 7:33 am”

you have a far better mind and quicker humor.

Bob, Why??????????

Yeah. The Left immediate hurls accusations blaming rightwing politicians and talkshow hosts, and we aren’t supposed to fight back.

Had the Left not started this before ambulance left the scene, it wouldn’t have happened. They stir up the pot and then blame the Right for not just the actions of the perp, but for the name-calling, too!

I for one am fed up with villifying by the Left, which is nothing but a play for more power and more trashing of our rights.

Ate up or fed up? I think you could sweat poison Kate

Errrr..Kate, you should get your facts straight. No one began anything ‘before the ambulance ” left the scene…they were all Life Flighted. There was no ambulance except those vehicles for the dead.

And be honest….was there not a thought crossing your mind before the real lunacy of the shooter was known…that it may well have been a TPer as the shooter? Or was that thought one that it was a liberal doing the shooting?

Finally…how about Palin’s lil’ vid that she was the target of a “blood libel’ … and the semitic overtones that phrase carries? Or Boehner turning down the invite to tide AF One to Tuscon..instead opting for attending a fundraiser at the same time the memorial was being conducted.

Any comments?

Sarah was using the term ‘blood libel’ following a progressive talker having just previously used that term.

Geez. You libs are after me today. You’ll have to do better than that. I’ve taken more from smaller minds than yours.

Knock yourselves out.

I just spent the time listening to her entire video. I see no anti-Semitic meaning in the way she used the term.

Actually Kate…in yet another time to get you to use facts instead of untruths…it was a videotaped statement she made and not responding to any “previous progressive’ statement.

Liberty..I never stated it was anti-Semitic. Even palin isn’t that stupid..well…..OK, just not this time. What I refr to is her use of ‘blood libel’ to compare the outrage of today with the false claims against Jews in legitimizing pogroms of the mid Dark Ages and later Rennaisance Age where the claims were made of matzah boiled in blood, eating christian children etc etc.

Opening a dialogue over the very real subject of the violent overtones of the Right and the TPers is “blood libel” with all it’s overtones? Really?

I know the origins of the term. However, many terms have ugly origins and then these same terms are later used with a slightly different connotation. Perhaps in this case it could be construed that she meant the pundits,etc were draining the blood of the innocents.

I’m sorry Flashman but your last line made “Saturday Night Live” pop into my imagery. “Really.”

Kate8, I have decided not to argue with some of the leftist on this forum. These folks will never see the light. My father always told me that arguing with idiots only drags you down to their level. I won’t name any names, but you know who I am talking about here. I am on you side Kate8. I will not say anymore.

Norm
ever heard of turn the channel if you don,t like something, mad people do what mad people do,bad things why did jef dahmer kill and eat people why did ide amin kill and eat people why did saddam hussein use gas to murder 2 or 3 hundred thousand of his citizens, why did hitler have 3 million jews killed and the list goes on, ,i know it was the right wing repubicans that caused them to do bad things,don,t put the blame where blame is do,it is easer to blame me or russ or hanity or palin and don,t forget my favority one bush ,a liberals creed, never let a crisis go to wasty, if you can blame someone ,but stupid is as stupid does,

I just saw an ex girl friend of the killer interviewed…she says he hated gov’t and thought it was ‘crap’. So,despite all the arguments for him being a rightwingers or left,he appears to be an anti gov’t guy. Can anyone tell me which political party has been demonizing the Federal gov’t for the past many yrs? Can anyone imagine that a mentally ill kid could be influenced by all the hate directed at the gov’t and maybe decide to act on the hate and vile comments made about the gov’t?

No one does much of anything in a vacuum,good or bad. A part of our society set the stage for an unbalanced and confused young man to act on the words and tone of millions of anti gov’t adults, and now 6 are dead,and one a 9 yr old little girl.

Rush, I think they’ve been around since 1968 from Canada, not the same rush as when I eat Limburg-er cheese, I’m sure

Gee, and Obama appointed a BP exec as secretary of energy.

Who was in charge of that, again?

which means ~ what? BP is not to be trusted? BP is naughty? Any and everyone from BP is bad news?

see how Kate has pounced on the very mention of BP?

Thank you Kate, the point well made.

Exactly, Bob.

And even more, I was utterly appalled in the way that Sarah Palin tried to cash in on the shooting victims of the Tucson gun tragedy by trying to perpetuate the notion that she herself was also a victim!! Deplorable!

That woman has zero shame, zero self-worth, and zero credibility, and she has no business being in politics.

She allowed herself to be used as a tool (a complete tool, at that) of one of the most prominent examples of social engineering since the 9/11 ‘incident’ was used to rally support for the unlawful invasion of Iraq.

Clearly the current batch of Republicans have no shame whatsoever, and Palin just needs to be ignored until she just goes away. It’s really as simple as that.

Sarah Palin cashed in?!!!!

OMG. You guys are real pieces of work.

bob wire – Are you seriously saying that you have no problem with such an obvious conflict of interest?

Your hypocrisy is mind-blowing. You guys are always the ones complaining about corporate interests running the government.

Nothing else need be said here.

You Win Kate, I can’t begin to follow you. You seem to go where one ones dare to go before. What conflict of interest? “O” with his BP appointment? that’s all I can figure? You see conflict there?

As for hypocrite, that’s what I was high lighting for sc when you launched your devastating assault. LOL!

In any case, you’re half baked attacks are meaningless to me. As soon as you make a serious effort to make some sense I’ll be happy to give you the play.

There is maybe 10 regular fire breather that like to show up here and huff and puff. I’m not sure what I’d do without the daily humor.

And yes ! Special Interest concerns have yet to be address and for good reasons ~ they are the Generals perched on a hilltop watch the battle from a safe distance so their name doesn’t get mentioned and they stay unsoiled from the fray.

bw – Of course I’m talking about BP. I can’t control where the post shows up on the thread.

How is it that we have an exec for a major oil company heading the department of energy? It seems Odumbo has stacked the government with corporate interests all the way around. (Goldman-Sachs…)

Poor Sara Palin…she lobs violent rhetoric for a couple of yrs,then when people say there could be a link w/ the Tucson killer,she feels personally victimized and attacked. So, she has to deliver a proffessionally produced video w/ the flag behind her on the morning of the day for the memorial to honor the real victims. She could have either kept her mouth shut or waited until after the memorial. That’s how the phrase ‘cashed in’ is somewhat appropriate. She was trying to ‘cash in’ politically w/ her pathetic video,which made her look/sound so differently than she normally does,I was actually amazed how they ‘cleaned her up’.
Hopefully this blatant attempt at self serving politics will doom her politically and she’ll retire to the big money of television.