Depends on your perspective Bob. Doom and Gloom? I don’t think so, in fact I’m actually looking very much forward to major changes. The system we have is a corrupt system run by a den of thieves.
I’m all for wiping that out and see it as a happy thing.:)
Mind you I’m also very well prepared so I can go ahead and feel like that. Someone living on the tenth floor of a building in the middle of an urban center probably won’t feel the same way.

I agree. I’d like to see the whole thing collapse like a house of cards (which is what it is anyway) and we can start all over again with common sense.

Dr, Mabuse,

Man you hit that dead on the head dude.

For any of you who really wnat the TRUTH – please look at the NATO Symbol, now take a good look at it again, note that each of the four arms when you take the solid color side, now with the outer edge of the circle, ~ now just note that the darker side has a line above its point, now just connect the dots, what do you have sitting there looking back at you?
Can you say Whats a “Sun Wheel Swastika” Alex for $100,000?

Now will all of you that are still working on the DemO V RebO gaggel please wake up.

TIME – It has always struck me the the Swastika also resembles the pinwheel design of the Milkey Way galaxy. Viewed from the side, the Milkey Way looks like a snake (or dragon) swallowing its tail. Sound familiar?

It moves in a spiral orbit around a larger matrix. I have often wondered if our galaxy is set up to keep us on a spiraling wheel of life-cycles until, at some specific point in that cycle, a galactic doorway opens to allow those who are ready to pass through into another, higher, realm of existence.

Kate,

Frist off I am so happy to see you grasp what I posted in its deepest meaning, Thank you, you just made my day.

When you look into the Tibentan’s and their beliefs what you will find they use whats called the “Wheel of Life” this can be found on many a Thangka it grants one peace within their soul and guides them in the after life to Heaven.
As well they also use a “LIFE WHEEL” for prayers, this looks like a stick with a hollow silver top that has a small chain with a weight that moves the sliver wheel on the stick, it is said to allow GOD to bring light to one.

We see the same patterns over and over no matter what culture, this is a science called “Symbology,” from this science also comes the Science of “Iconography.”
These sciences are used to dig deep into the Human base line thinking as they are from our deep past that held great meaning.
Today mostly these are used for less than POSITIVE results, yet they are all based in TRUE GOODNESS. Strange how preverted things get over time.

Much of what we have been dumbed down to not full grasp wht these things mean.
This behavior again saddly goes straight back to CONTROL by the few over the mass’s. Or Politic’s, ~ man o man talk about the begining and end, the snake who eats its own tail. Some of you will get that one others, if not,
If not That clearly displays how much you need to grow as well OPEN your MINDS, and Hearts.

TIME – I know what you mean. In my whole life I’ve never known a single person with whom I could discuss these things in any meaningful way. I can’t tell you how I’ve longed for that.

I have a lifetime of study, and only now is much of my search beginning to come to real fruition. Those things I’ve puzzled over and prayed about are now beginning to dawn on me in amazing ways and at amazing times. It’s brought joy to my heart to see that God really does answer prayer in His perfect time.

Scripture prophesies that, at the end of days, what has been hidden will be revealed. Until now, much of those things COULD NOT be understood.

It also tells us that we must WATCH and be aware, as most people won’t read the signs.

Here is the site of a program I heard on the radio while driving the other day. Let me know what you think.

http://www.familyradio.com/index.html

Thanks for all that you contribute in your posts.

Read Jeremiah 10

strawberry – Thanks. What is it you wanted me to get from that?

Kate – I used that link and have to say I am having a hard time correlating the prediction and that I have always heard that the end of days would not come until all of mankind had been given the opportunity to hear the word of God and be “saved.” Well, there are a lot of people out there who have not been introduced to the Word of God. Like the primitive tribes in the rain forest and even so many people living in repression like the North Koreans. How can that be?

Karolyn – Why are you asking me that question?

That would be a question to ask of the group who put up the site. They have an email address for questions.

I neither believe nor disbelieve their contention. I just thought is was another interesting idea.

That’s Milky Way.

Geez. Fingers have minds of their own lately.

Dr. Mabuse, I agree that the Nazi relocated, the main ones left when they knew the war was lost.

Dr. Mabuse & Time,

Welcome to the “onepercenters”; the few, the proud, the neo-objectivists, the enlightened truth-tellers and reality-junkies!

The revolution will be televised and on the Internet!

Semper fi!

DM,

“Actually, I’m kinda lookin’ forward to the end of the world, I’ll probably spark up a fat one, crack open a fresh bottle of Jamisons, kick my feet up and watch the Saints go marchin’ in.”

I’ve gone about half way down the reponses so far, and have seen very few actual reponses to the initial question, “How would we want to live if we thought the world was going to end in 2012?” Predictably, the discussion went off into the weeds with comments about the legitimacy of Mayan prophecies, the Apocolypse, and the usual God vs. atheism arguments. DM, you’re one of the very few who actually read and answered the question.

Almost everyone else missed the point. The question was intended to reveal the aspirations of each person in how they would handle such a catastrophe, as remote as that possibility may be.

I’ve lived long enough to know that people often say how they will react during a particularly stressful situation, and then act very differently when subjected to that situation. I can only expect that humanity in general would repeat the ways of the past when great tumult and adversity occur. Some will rise to the occasion, some will self-destruct, others will revert to that Limbic Region barbarity and bestiality. Many of the religious will seek comfort in their religion, and some will turn away. Many of the athiests will come to religion.

I truly don’t know how I would react if I were given a certainty of destruction within a given time frame. My spirituality would probably deepen, and I would probably like to have my far flung family back together to face the end. Other than that, I couldn’t see much different, with the possible exception of further arming myself to ensure my family was safe from the “Book of Eli” marauders.

JC (the “JC”?),

99% of the Global Power Elites or “Globalists” ARE White People and Crusading Christians. And, in my considered analysis, you will NEVER be on the side of the “Onepercenters” because of your apparent closed-mindedness, irrationality and ignorance of the things that matter most.

I see, I’m “unaware” because I reject your racist overtones.
The Global elite are Zionists who’ve been attacking and trashing Christianity for at least 50 years.
I think you’ve got your wires crossed Taz.

JC – The only ‘hate’ I ever see comes out of Taz’s side.

Racism aside for the moment, the majority of the Zionists are Ashkenazi. And the Ashkenazi are White, not Semitic.

Zionists are counterfeit “Jews”.

BTW, Jews come in all races.

I agree, I came to the conclusion some years back that we were indeed the primitives and have lost so much.

Amen to that Time!

TIME – This is what I came to realize also. The only way we can hope to catch a glimmer of Truth is to let go of EVERYTHING we’ve ever been taught or believed, open to infinite possibility and go to Source with our questions.

All on the Earth plane is deception. Truth is so much larger, grander and more astonishing that we can comprehend. We know absolutely nothing. All of science is laughable, since it is based on the senses and is illusory.

If we can view the universe with wonder, like a child, we may learn something.

Time there are a few definitions of the term “pagan” and it’s still pretty murky as to what the true origin is.

So for my purpose in the use of the word it would be describing those that made offerings to sun gods, deities, etc. Anything that would be considered an abomination to the one true God. Not sure why you think I believe that they are without God. They most definitely had their Gods. I know much much more than you may realize on this subject. I just don’t want to open a can of worms to be honest. I won’t have the time to get as involved in the conversation as I would like.

…and that is not a cop out, I home-school my kindergartner and second grader and it takes up pretty much my entire day, in addition to chasing my three year old and a one year around…

Strawberry,

Good for you that you home school thats a positive thing.

I have studied History all my life now 61 I am still digging, thus when I post something as in a words meaning etc. I do so due to my finding not just a single ray of light but many that make words meanings more concrete.

Best of luck with your Home schooling.

Hi Al,

Thanks for the Intel, I may have that book I know I have a number on like topic’s.

TIME, what do you think about the $5.00- $10.00 a gal. gas coming our way? I’ve always figured Lindsay Williams was right.

Al,
It will not be long in coming, the Controlling Powers are loosing control thus they must inflict as much damage on us as they can to get us back under control.

As you know if gas is $10.00 PG, all other items will go up as well, such as FOOD, Electric power, Water, Interest rates.
The only thing that will come down in value is the Dollar as the world Reserve standard. I feel that we will be going to the Yen or to the Chiniese counter within 18 months.

Just like two years ago when all the “experts” claimed that gas would reach $5.00 over that summer, only to have it not even reach $3 and to go down substantially here in SC (Where we have the cheapest gas.)

Al Sieber– Here in town the cost of gas is raised on Wednesday evenings. Then on Monday and Tuesday it goes down. All filling stations here in town do this. They know people will be traveling over the weekend. Well, it is Wednesday evening and I noticed on my way home tonight the price was $3.19 a gallon. It was the same price right before Christmas. This has been happening for a long time. Right before Thanksgiving it was $2.83 a gallon. My neighbor tells me cigarettes are $54-$56 a carton. The Illinois lottery was supposed to create money for education. What the hell happened here in Illlinois??!!

Claire – that lottery money must be bogus. They said it was for education and say it’s for education but instead I think whatever they give to the schools gets subtracted from some other school program. So in the end it means nothing yet they still tell us it does good. Baloney.

Claire, gas was $2.64 in Nov., $2.68 the middle of Dec. and now it’s $2.74. I don’t get to town much, maybe every 2 weeks, so, it surprises me how much the price of things go up.

Al and libertytrain–You know, I get so tired of being “fleeced” every time I turn around. The filling stations, the grocery stores, “China”, insurance companies, –I could go on and on. There is no end in sight.

Good heavens, you are the first person whom I’ve come across to have actually READ Velikovsky. As to the ending of what we know….not likely, but perhaps a change in attitudes and aggressiveness etc. No more WAR etc.

Fran, A Golden Age is, indeed, prophesied to follow the end of the one now passing. I can’t see, however, how that could happen except for something happening BIG enough to change the hearts of humanity from where it is now.

Scripture says, “As it was in the days of Noah”. At that time, God looked down and declared humanity “basar v’adam!”, which, in Hebrew, means “flesh/meat”. They were flesh without souls, and He destroyed them. Just take a look around today and see if that is not again the case.

That could be true since the end of times has been predicted before the birth of Christ and many times afterwards. I believe things will be about the same next year and better in 2012. I certainly Don’t believe the end of the world is coming … especially not because of all the talk of financial doom and gloom that get’s spread around. Those folks are like a school of piranhas in their predictions. Last week one said that there will be Marshall law by Dec of next year. Another said a few months back that by the end of March 2011 there will be total chaos in the USA. I see nothing wrong with being prepared (with supplies or setting yourself straight with God). At least be better informed with facts if making wild predictions.

All this talk about the Mayan calender predicting the end of the world 12 21 2012 is at best a miss-understanding of what that date means. It mearly means the end of one cycle and the start of a new one. It can be infered by what we know from other Mayan writings that they would expect a time of upheavel and possible natural disasters but they DO NOT predict the end of the world on that date.

Karolyn if you mean by getting to heaven by doing good works, you better read the word of God who says i am the way the truth and the life and there is no other way to the father but by me, this is scriptural.

“i am the way the truth and the life and there is no other way to the father but by me,”.

Good point John. The good works are supposed to show evidence of your acceptance of Christ not be an alternate to it.

John Snow,you are correct yet the Bible has several passages about doing good works and we all should be doing them. As you say though: you must believe in the faith of God or those good works will mean nothing.

John your right!_-its your faith in God, That causes you to do good works__The heart alone doesn’t cut it!

John, I am not a Biblical scholar, but I have read much to influence my belief in the usually accepted translations. I believe what I believe, and you can believe what you believe. I believe that God is in all of us and in every thing and that he is not a punishing God testing us our whole lives. I believe that Jesus is my brother, as are you. According to the Bible Jesus is A son of God, not THE son of God. We are all energy and will all live forever, choosing to come back via reincarnation if we want to. We are not the only intelligent creatures in the Universe, and there are many civilizations that have come before us that destroyed themselves through technology and greed. Think Atlantis. I was a Christian until I saw the light.

Karolyn – God is not a tyrant doling out rewards and punishments. He has set up the Universe to function according to His Laws, and when we choose to violate those Laws, things do not go well for us.

If we jump off a tall building, He will, most likely, allow us to suffer the consequence. Does that make Him a punisher? NO! He allows us to be stupid! He does not force us to adhere to His Laws, and He does allow us to reap the consequences of not doing so.

Yeshua showed us the Way of the Heart. The Heart is where Spirit resides, where the Christ is born within us. There is NO other way to the Father. We can’t do it through the mind, which is caught up in physicality.

KateH, you have a lot of knowledge about a lot of things and I like your common sense approach. Aside from what is written in books I truly sense my location as spirit a liitle bit above and between the eyebrows. To me the idea of the spirits location in the heart is symbolic as I perceive the head to be the center of activity. The heart being just an organ that pumps blood as other body parts have their functions. My thought aside from books is that your location in space would be from where you emanate out to focus and direct things in your life.

BruceD. The third-eye center you describe is, indeed, a center of insight and a connection to Spirit. Anyone can utilize this, or any other, of the body’s power centers. In fact, we do it automatically as a matter of survival. Most of the world’s spiritual masters focus on the third-eye and crown centers to reach “enlightenment”.

Consciousness, however, does not “reside” in the brain (which is a transmitter/receiver). Consciousness is alive within every cell, as our DNA is antennae to the Divine.

The power center below the navel is the seat of energetic power, where we get “gut feelings” and experience primitive emotional responses, or the “lower” unconscious. The heart center opens and evolves when we begin to bring up the “gut” energy and bring down the divine through the crown and through the third-eye, or “higher” unconsious (which is the doorway to Spirit). This is when we begin to experience Divine Love, which is the Path to the Father.

Love is the ONLY Path to God. Love flows through the heart, not the mind. Yeshua was Divine Love incarnate. This is why He said, “No one comes to the Father except by Me”.

John, I dont always agree with Karolyn but I believe she is saying to live and love like never before, God see’s and knows what’s in your heart and to do the best you can by everyone and yourself while your here.

Richar what response was that ?

I am praying God will open your heart to see the truth

Cathy,

Sounds to me like you think the Bible was a single book that was writen by someone in times of old! Not so. The Bible is an acumulation of writings over long periods od time and were then put together in one volume to make the word of God. The Bible has not been rewriten it has been translated into other languages over time. Some of the books were originally written in other languages such as Greek or Arabic etc. It came to a time when man needed to have copies of the book in their own languages. It has been carefully done and the meanings of the original words has been held to strict truness of meaning ! You are making some very mistaken claims and accusations that are not true ! Sorry you feel that way !

Cathy I’m not sure of what you said, did you mean that man wrote the bible ? if you meant that, then your right, God told them what to write and they wrote it, just as an executive who has a private secretary and wants a letter dictated, he tells her what to write and she does just that, no more or no less, and this is what God did with men of old.

I’m sure Albert had the opportunity to express his views when his world ended. Whether we believe or not does not change God’s word or his promise of salvation. No we do not know when the end will come, for us as an individual or for all the world, but through Faith in his word and his promise that he will return, we need to be prepared.

As for me, I quote George Yance “My bags are packed and I am ready to go” I’m just waiting for the train. By the way on Dec. 21,2012 I will be 73 unless Jesus returns, or calls me home. How about you? are your bags packed? Sam

Sam,

That is the way to think of it. We know not the day or the hour so keep the bags packed and we will be ready when ever it comes ! Lets all get together on Dec. 21 2012 on this place and we will wish you a happy birthday!

Albert’s life was like his hair – pretty messed up!!

The dead sea scrolls were the same as the modern Bible….verified.

Einstein also said that evil is the abscence of Love as cold is the absence of heat.

Love is information God is Love… God exists though I am not all knowing I know nor are you……but Love exists therefore God exists

Cathy,

You hit the nail on the head. If the world were come to an end, you know what I would do.I would bend over and kiss my ass good bye.You are right,Christianity is a dangerous myth.And it is for the weak minded.Have a nice day.

I’m with you Cathy. An archeologist by the name of Zecharia Sitchin wrote many books on past civilations dating back to 6000 B.C and Sumeria. Civilation did not evolve on planet earth. It was planted by beings from the planet Nibaru by the Annanuki. It appears that anyone one with a little power was called a god. Each god want given control of a large piece of land like a state. Then they started warring among themselves. Which proves that there will always be men who will fight each other as is happening today. Has anyone ever seen this GOD? All we have to go by is an average person saying he was told by God. Suppose we spell that backward and say we must worship Dog.

DeJay

Wow. You be smokin some perty good stuff. When did the mother ship drop you off? Did you “grow up” during the 60s and 70s?

I have never seen the wind, but I have seen, and felt, the results of the wind.

DeJay,

Innocent people were slaughter in the name of Christianity,including children.

Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he “followed meticulously all Christian teachings…” All this world end is crap,nothing more.Lets end all religious myths.

DeJay I have read all Zecharia Sitchin’s books. Some based on the cuneiform language written on clay tablets over 25,000 years ago. I have always wondered why more research was never put into the understanding and relevance of the old clay tablets. It seems like it should be an important part of history but as is largely ignored.

coal miner,

I hope you don’t have arthritis or it is going to be mighty painful to bend over to kiss youself good-bye !

You couldnt be more wrong. Christianity takes strength to embrace, as when you do this, satan uses people in the dark, like you, to constantly attack us. Christians are under more duress, more scrutiny and more prejudice and persecution than anyone on earth. Its a harder walk, much harder, than being a heathen walking in the dark following satan from sin to sin. No sir, Christianity takes strength, a lot of strength. The strength that is give to us by Jesus taking the nails on the cross. Through that, we live forever, and thats a fact. He is the only living God. And it is proven by original manuscripts by eye witnesses. He is recorded in more original manuscripts than Julius Caesar and Nero combined, and yet I suppose you believe in those guys? Thats what I thought. You are so wrong, and what you dont know can hurt you bad.

Beberoni,

So very well said ! I too am a Christian and the walk is very difficult at times and yet at those times for me it seems to get better. I get stronger and find courage to keep on keeping on ! When I see and recieve those attacks I have come to see them for who they are and from who they come. It is Satan, so I don’t even bother with him now ! He is desend for hell and he knows it so he is just going around trying to give hell to all he meets. For me that kind of hell is nothing because it is only for a moment but his hell is eternal and the sad thing is he chose it himself ! That is real stupidity !

Cathy, its that South African again. We all accept that the Bible have been written by many authors. Moses the first 5 books in the Bible, and many more after that. The New Testament were written by a handful of authors all who had a close relationship with Jesus Christ. The Old Testament would not have survived scrutiny by orthodox Jews if there were any major discrepancies in that part. So I must conclude that there is truth in the writings in the Bible. As our knowledge of the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek languages increase then of course translations will differ, the question is whether there is a total new interpretation of the Bible – there mostly is not. Compare this to some of the other sciences and one will see that there are continually new discoveries that change ones understanding of so-called facts. We are continually discovering new medical science, new interpretations of biology, even mathematics and physics go through changes in understanding, but we believe what they are telling us. The moment the Bible comes under scrutiny then we do not believe it, “because there are different interpretation and or translations.” I do not think that is really fair, do you?

The Bible shows us what we should do to receive salvation from sin and it is so easy: “just believe that Jesus, the Son of God, became flesh and died on a cross and rose from the grave to ascend to heaven to be our Savior.” We just have to ask forgiveness for our sins and profess Jesus to our fellow worldly travelers. That is all, it is not difficult at all.

Should the world end tomorrow, in 100 weeks, a 100 years or a 1000 years, it does not matter as I believe in an eternity with Jesus in a new recreated world and I am looking forward to that happening.

Your so right Robert if only science and religion could come together think of what could be accomplished. I’m sure allot of the Atheist including those who post here will have a 180 degree change of heart in the last moments of this life. Thanks to Jesus the one they believe a myth still loves them and is willing to give them one last chance.

Robert,

You said it all! I agree !

Robert, AMEN and Amen!!! Do you think there are any atheists in foxholes??

Hi it is that South African again. Thank you for your answers, there are no-one that I know of that does not know God at the moment of peril whether it is in a foxhole or at the dangerous end of a gun, knife, a bully or if something happens that they have no control over. I was the same a long time ago, but so much changed in my life after I met Jesus as Savior that I do not even recognize myself sometimes. Unless one has gone through that transformation one will never believe in the saving grace of God and the changes in one’s life.

Well Cathy, Einstein recanted much of his former statements about God. As a matter of fact, he saw a universe so finetuned and orderly, he concluded a superior being HAD to be the originator. Furthermore, Charles Darwin admitted before passing away that his work, essentially was false.
Again, why wonder about the end? The Bible has a 100% record of being correct. The Bible teaches that God would spread the Jews around the world and would call them back to Israel just before His second return. Israel became a nation again in 1948 after 2000 years of despersion. He (God) said the Jews would be hated by all nations. They are. He (God) indicated that the generation which saw the return of Israel to their homeland would be the generation which would see the 2ond return of Christ. We should be setting aside what the incredible wizzards are saying and studying what the credible Creator God revealed about HIS program. Doesn’t that make more sense/

James D. Burke,

Sure makes more sense to me !

Cathy, Einstein was a scientiest, not a theologian, who couldn’nt see the forest for the trees. Albert was a great scientist in the secular sense. He studied what God had created as do all scientists. How many scientists in the past have studied their topics while denying God, then suddenly, they see Gods hand in everything and are converted by the eternal depth perceived in their work. It has happened many times Cathy. Eventually the greatest skeptics finally see Gods hand in the whole of creation. The Bible, a credible work was written by men moved by God The Holy Spirit and instructed there-by what to write. All books have Authors who obeyed what the Holy Spirit instructed them to write and their names are included in the somewhere in the Bible. You mentioned the Bible had been re-written many times. That is partially true because thousands of tribes and tens of thousands of cultures must have translations which can be understood in their own languages but the essential message is not lost in the translations. Trnslating the Bible is a difficult endeavor. I know of one Translator who looked for 25 years before finding a single word in a Papua New Guinea tribe before hearing a small boy use a word he hadn’t heard before. When inquiring about the word with the tribal Chief, that single word, put in order enabled the New Bible to be published in the heart language of the tribe.

I know the Bible is God’s word Cathy, without a doubt. And believe me, until your eyes and ears are opened by inviting Jesus Christ into your life, it will mean absolutely nothing to you, because you wont know. And that is right where the enemy, satan wants to keep you. Not knowing. And in this, what you dont know, can hurt you very much. You know inside of you right from wrong. That is the voice of God dwelling in you, telling you what is right. When you see helpful actions by people, and hateful actions by people, you see God in the good, and evil in the bad. That is how we are wired. You know deep inside, that you didnt just crawl out from under a rock. You were created by a kind and loving God, who has rooms full of blessings to bestow on you, but you havent asked Him for them yet. They are there, I know. I asked, I received, and I have seen. At least take the time to investigate this. There was a famous atheist named Lee Strobel. He investigated it, and now he is a famous Christian author, because when he looked for the truth, he found it. Give it a look. What you find will save your life. I guarantee it.

As I said above 12 21 2012 is the end of one cycle and the start of a new cycle not the end of the world. God might decide to end the world then or not for as others have said only he knows when it will all end.

Beberoni,

Isn’t it amazing how much we need when we think we will live forever and how much we don’t need when we know we will not live forever? You are so right in saying all we need is Jesus !

Well, let them have joy in their lives for the rest of their time too.

I found that amusing Time To Act. It is kind of like, ya thanks for nothing. It has always been my though that none of knows what we will do under extreme stress until we experience it. Some think they can buy their way out of the problem by acts of good will. Money can get rid of most problems but not all.

Bruce D.

It is amazing how we think sometimes. I think most people think in terms of a rapture and so there will be some that go and some that will be left behind. That could be the reason for thinking of giving away of things at the end. I’m not so sure that there will be a rapture like that. There will be some taken and some left behind but those left behind won’t need our things. They will need God and I’m afraid he won’t be there ! That of course is all speculation on my part as God has given me no special insight ! We will all see when the time comes!

Actually Bruce, most of the people I know that have the most problems in life, also seem to be the people I know that have the most money, and it seems their constant chasing of it, leads to the very problems they have. They seem to buy large expensive houses they really cant afford, but you know, youve got to live in the right neighborhood. And of course, they have to drive a Mercedes or a Lexus or some status car, that they really cant afford. They you know, they have to have the designer shoes, and the designer purse for the wife, and heaven forbid you go out to eat at Applebee’s instead of Eddie Merlot’s or some other 125.00 steak house. It seems no matter how much money they get, they get further in debt, because they live high off the hog, and money is their god. Im glad I was never cursed with that need. Thank God for that.

If you read my whole post, you would see that I said I give away to an extent what I can now. I cant give it all away now, as I do need a place to sleep tomorrow. However, if God moved me so, and told me to give it all away and go somewhere and be a missionary, Id leave today and give it all away today. And it might help someone in the short term in the end like I said, but it wouldnt save them, but it might offer them a little comfort that maybe they havent had before. I dont know. I guess maybe I could have worded it a little better, and said that I fully recognize the stuff I have isnt going with me and Im not going to need it anymore.

Amen the time is coming soon look at the Christians the muslims are killing and they will be coming to our home before this world ends but if they try to take my Bible or they tell me I got to worship Allah I will die giving my soul to Jesus the ones giving up thier life for Jesus we belong to Jesus.I want ever bow before any man only God in Heaven

Yes. It is the only life there is. I know, I walked 40 years without it. It was 40 empty years my friend.

I like the spelling! My dyslexic mind sees and has no problem with what so ever, not noticing it until you brought it forward.

And if the end ever does come, I too think there will be survivors. Same book, different chapter.

I can tell you this according to God Holy Word no man not even the angels in Heaven know when this time will be but when you see all those coming against God’s children the anger will spew up in his face and then this world will end. read the Bible and you will see

The Mayan Calandar isn’t alone in its prediction of 2012. That is reflected in many ancient writings around the world. And it wasn’t based on musings from a “crystal ball”, but on astronomical cycles, which have been shown to be astonishingly accurate by today’s science. In actuality, it is the completion of several orbital cycles at one time, which culmination marks the end of the current Picean Age and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius. This is not some astrological fantasy, but of heavenly cycles.

That is the end of the world is a presumption made by those attempting to decipher its meaning, largely based on the scenario of Revelation and the writings of Nostradamas. That, and the fact that civilizations have been uncovered in many buried layers of earth, showing that humanity has been reborn, thrived, declined and suffered destruction by some larger-than-life hand time and again.

Whether this will happen in 2012 in conjecture at this point, but an important thing to ponder is that the NWO elites seem to believe this, and have based their whole end-game on it. In seems, in fact, that they are taking steps to help along humanity’s demise and their own preservation.

One would think that, since we are inching so close to this long-awaited time frame, more people would be interested in what it’s all about. I guess that is the nature of man, that he would prefer to just pretend it isn’t real and go on as usual, even in the face of so much obvious upheaval which just happens to reflect so many prophetic writings from all the main cultures around the world.

Of course, one other thing prophesied is that the vast majority of people are scoffers, and are caught off-guard. Only a very small “remnant” are ever watchful and aware.

Kate8,

Yes there is something stirring in the world today! I have been studing the bible for years and also have a consuming interrest in anchient history and civilizations. It all has a lot to say about where we are going. Over the years a lot has come to light and I find that the more I know the more I don’t know. Ancient history is so facinating and mind stirring. I subscribed to great biblical archeology magazines for years along with others. In all my studying I have come to one conclusion, I can’t change one thing. I am obligated by God to do what I can and then leave the rest to him. He has the plan, whether I like it or not. So now I get up in the morning and do what I can to live life as normal as I can and to prepare for hard times and then I must leave the rest to Him. I thank God every day for the blessings I have recieved in my life and continue to recieve, I pray for those that need and ask for prayer and I trust in God to do all the rest. I know in my heart that there is a life beyond this one and I wonder what that life will be like. I can’t imagine living in another life and just floating around doing nothing, so there must be a purpose for that life just as there is for this one. I’m not believing in an after life because I’m afraid to die because I don’t have a clue if I will ever be deamed good enough to get into this place they call heaven. The way I see it I can only believe in the bible and Gods word and then do the best I can to live according to His word. I trust in him to take care of all the rest. I can only do what I can only do ! The rest is up to Him ! If the end is in 2012 then I will live as God has taught me to live until my final breath, there is nothing else that can be done if the end is truly the end !

The thing most people miss or ignore in the 2012 discussion is that the date is the end of the cycle and the start of a new cycle. It DOES NOT predict the end of the world but rather the end of the age and the start of a new age. It is quite possible it forcasts a time of upheval and disruption but NOT the end of the world.

An end to liberals??!!

I believe you are absolutely correct! The world did not end 25,000 years ago the last time this particular cycle occurred and there are no records indicating what might have happened at that time. Although America’s “Sleeping Prophet” Edgar Cayce, once said that there was a major evacuation of Atlantis 50,000 years ago (this cycle happens every 25,000 years apparently), there is no definitive proof that Atlantis even existed. I wrote about such things in both my books. While it is unlikely that 2012 is going to be the ‘end of days’ or the end of the world, the end could come for any one of us at any time. Humans are so casual about life and often don’t realize how fragile it is. It would behoove us all to realize that life could end for anyone at almost any time, a drunk driver, a severe storm, a plane crash, a heart attack, even a stoke at the latest insane thing congress has passed. All of life here is temporary and that is why I have always been interested in the afterlife. Someone who experienced that afterlife when he was 20 was Dr. George Ritchie. Based on what he saw I suspect he would be the first to say, ‘make all you can of life but it is only a tiny part of all that is’. Check here if you have an interest in what he saw. It changed his life, that’s for sure. http://www.near-death.com/ritch.html

5,025 years ago (the beginning of the present Mayan cycle) is 3,114 BC (count back from 2012 AD, not counting the year “zero”). August 11, to be exact.

Stonehenge – the ancient observatory in Britain – was first constructed that year as some sort of “listening post”. It consisted of a circle of 360 telephone pole-like objects set in a large circle; on one side was an opening that permitted direct sunlight to enter only on the Summer solstice – June 21. Exactly six months from December 21, the winter solstice. (Google this if you doubt me). Was this to give warning to “get ready” or, “only six months to go”? According to the Bible this is shortly before Noah’s Flood. More than 90 ancient societies have a legend of a huge flood about that time. There was no known communication going on between the ancient Mayans of Central America and the ancient Druids of ancient Britain as far as we know; it seems reasonable that they arrived at this warning system independently, based on some worldwide phenomena of something coming out of the sky to destroy us. Given that so many ancient civilizations with good mathematical skills (Babylon, Egypt, Sumer,the Mayans, etc.) kept close watch on the night skies, I would be concerned that something unknown at this time – a classic “Black Swan” – will envelop us in late December 2012. Exactly what it is, remains to be seen.

Richard, both my sister and I have had out of body experiences. My sister awake during child birth trying to avoid extreme pain saying “I do not want to be here”. For me my body was unconscious and I went above my body about ten feet and about five feet to one side. For us it was not a religious experience of any kind and it did not make us more religious in any way. But it gave us both certainty of existence apart from a body.

I’ve had that sort of thing happen as well,usually when I was sick as a kid. It is nothing more than the mind creating the illusion that you are ‘out of your body’. The mind can do that and more,as in the case of real mental illness.

Well Bruce, that’s a step in the right direction. Many believe you die, they stick your body in a grave and that’s it. Did you read about Dr. Ritchie’s experience that I gave the web site to above? I first read it originally over 30 years ago but he had the advantage of already being a Christian, so it’s obvious he would be open to more than just an OTB experience. I had an OTB experience that I wrote about in my autobiography. More importantly, I believe there are as many places you might end up after your life here as there might have been for you to be born. Most religions group them into Heaven and Hell, but I believe that is only because that is ultimately where we all end up. However, as Ritchie experienced, it could be a bit more complicated than that. There were what might be called decent selfless people in the university science area who were unaware of Jesus or of Heaven (perhaps they thought they were in it, not knowing that there was more) and so they were busy doing what they loved. Some who write here are already living in what Ritchie saw as hell, they are angry and bitter and insistent that their way is the only way and that everyone who doesn’t believe that is wrong, and as we have seen in recent years in Ft. Hood and back at 9/11 there are those who will kill you because they think they are so right on. It’s all ego. Such people often oppose God, thinking He is the cause of their problems. In one of my two books I write about an Irishman I worked with for nearly four years. He was not an alcoholic or at least he never got drunk but he could put away two cases (not cartons) of beer in an afternoon or drink over two dozen martini’s at a sitting. It eventually killed him (or at least that’s what the doctors told him after they spent eleven hours on him). When they brought him back and he described what they were doing one of them was astounded and said that it was impossible because he was unconscious the entire time. Another doctor chimed in that if he was wide awake he couldn’t have seen what he was describing because the angle was wrong. Bill told me (one of the few he ever talked to about it) and the doctors years earlier, that he was behind and above them watching as they worked on him. There is a great deal we don’t know yet but as Jesus told a follower of His in Great Britain about 80 years ago (GOD CALLING edited by A. J. Russell) “you have forever to learn it,” to which I can only add, just make sure you are on His side and all will ultimately go well for you. If our country returns to the Godly principles upon which it was founded the same will be true.

Denniso – you always remind me of the ultimate party pooper. That’s not flattery.

I believe you are 100% correct…the end of the Age…Ouur government is so corrupt, it can’t go on much further, DHS is preparing us for the Police State, Government will try to survive, and to H with the people!! I believe the US is going down the drain, like the 16th Century scotsman said, “Every Democracy Ends in a Dictatorship, and I clearly see that efven now!! They must disarm us, so they can kill an unarmed people, who are unable to defend themselves!! I believe the US will be a 3rd world country!! we are into a state of collapse even now!!!

If I thought the end of the world was coming in 2012 I would do just as I do every day. I would thank God for his blessings and pray for those that need prayer and I wouldn’t worry about the end. I can’t change a thing anyway. However I do have a request for today if I might be so bold. I am asking for all those that want to, to say a prayer for a little boy named Mason. Mason is 28 weeks along on his journey to be born and he is in some big trouble. His growth has slowed and the placenta has started to pull away from the wall. Doctors are going to administer steroids and hope to prolong his birth. I have been asked to administer prayer for Mason. I ask that all those that wish to join me to pray for Gods protection over this baby and that he grant him a full term delivery, long life and healthy strength for the life of a little boy. I don’t know Mason’s parents, only that a friend of theirs asked me to pray for them . I hope you will join me in offering up a prayer for a little baby that needs all the help we can give him. Thanks

Dear Granny Mae,

Isaiah 53;5 Tells us that that by his(Jesus)stripes we are healed. We as people of God we must stand in the gap and pray for those in need of healing that has alredy been paid for on the day He suffered the crucifixion. Mason will be healed by the faith of those of us that name the Name of Jesus, and stand at the Throne of Grace.

I totally agree with what you posted; no need to worry if your spiritual self is in order. You also have my prayer for the child to mature full-term, to be born completely healthy and to lead a life of love and grace.

To those of you that are keeping little Mason in your prayers I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Mason’s mommy has noticed a little more movement since the prayer started. She told me that she is trying to keep a positive attitude and is also in constant prayer for her baby. I have sent her a message that she must believe that Jesus is watching over her and he will answer her prayers! This is a very stressful time for her and especially since Mason’s daddy has left the two of them. He said he couldn’t handle the stress and decided he didn’t want kids! I am praying for him too! Thanks for all the prayers and don’t stop.

UpDate on Mason,

Praise be to God things have started to improve for Mason. It is slow but an improvement. It appears that the placenta is trying to reattach and the fluid is coming back. Thank You all for your prayers. This includes all of you from Africa, Italy, Arizona, Alabama, Michigan, Utahand Florida and anyplace I have missed. There is perpetual adoration and prayer coming from Arizona, Alabama, and Utah along with masses being said from Italy. Thank you all. Heather was worried because she wasn’t feeling a lot of movement and a nurse bought her a heart monitor so she could hear the baby’s heart beat and not panic. People in this world are truly wonderful. To pray for someone they don’t even know is such a gift ! Heather is holding the knowledge of all of you in her heart and is so greatful and wants you all to know you have given her hope when she thought she was alone and all was lost. She will remember all of you in her prayers. Thanks again and don’t stop till this little guy gets here !

To those who have been praying for Mason, please know that Jesus stopped his struggle and took him home today! God has a plan and we will trust in him. Thank you for all your prayers !

Sorry Granny Mae for his mom but it’s ok for the little one now.

Libertytrain,

Things are going to be OK. Mommy was able to hold her baby son and grieve her loss but she knows everything is going to be alright! Her one concern now was that everyone that prayed for her and Mason know how much their prayers meant to her. She said that to find out that people that never knew her were praying for her just over whelmed her . She knew than that she could get through anything that came her way and that is just what she is doing.

Granny Mae – thank you for the update and very happy she was able to see and hold him.

The only reliable source one can bank on is the Bible which has a 100% reliability record. So why go to some incredible wizzard? One must prepare for the worst and pray for the best. The personal order of business is caring for the soul through Spiritual re-birth, then studying Gods Word and learning what His program is, adhering to it then getting our families to follow our example, then working and enjoying the fruits of our labor while proselyting to keep others out of hell.
In order to make the above easier, one should “Home School” their children or put them in a Christ centered Church school. Most of what passes for public education these days is debilitating propaganda. Thats how we arrived at where we are today, Evil people writing curriculum.

I don’t know of anything at all that the bible has correctly predicted. The early Christians and every generation since have used the bible as a predictor of the end times…I haven’t seen them yet.

Denniso, I believe that James D. Burke was referring to those who came to a knowledge of Jesus Christ through the Bible and accepted him as their saviour. Jesus has never let them down whereas man and ministers and churches sometimes have. Many however, even Satan who was once a powerful and beautiful angel named Lucifer, prefer to do their own thing, and go their own way. There is some truth in what you said earlier about some out-of-body-experiences being delusional but that is quite different from a genuine experience. You strike me as someone who has to hold a live wire to believe that something we can’t normally see, electricity, is present. As far as the end times, they could last a thousand years. The Bible only talks about the end of the end times to any extent and it will be hell on earth (according to the Bible) before that. Now, if you are talking about predictions about the end of the world that various cults have given over the years I would have to agree with you. They have all been wrong and that is why one should stick to the basics and not get involved in cults. We have some 3,000 in this county or did 30 years ago. I suppose it’s because most people have always wanted to know when the world will end. It’s like it’s hardwired into us because we know our own personal world will end one day and so people are interested. Jesus’ own disciples asked him about the end of the world and he said it would be like it was it the time of Sodom and Gomorrah, not just a time of rampart homosexuality, but a time of great lawlessness, greed and avarice, probably worse than now. Even the Pope recently said that the future of the world is at stake and we are on the threshold of a new dark age but the media didn’t even bother to report on it. Anyway, Jesus said that the stars (a generic term that covered comets and asteroids and even meteors) would fall from the sky like figs on a fig tree during a storm. What things has the Bible prophesied accurately? Well, when Pharaoh refused to let the children of Israel go and had to be shown the way. A prophesy was given after he finally did let them go that never again would Egypt be a great country. That indicated that God knew there would always be a Egypt because many countries from that era are gone, their boundaries changed or erased and new countries have arisen but Egypt still exists.
The Prophet Isaiah said, “Whoever heard of such a thing, a nation born in a day?” For thousands of years no one did, until May 15, 1948, when the major nation of the Bible, Israel, came back into being in a single day. Then there was Jesus, who said that every building in the great city of Jerusalem, that the people so admired, would be torn down so that no brick would be upon another. Those Christians who remembered that 40 years later got out before Rome came and destroyed the city and it’s inhabitants. This is a matter of history. I write about even more in one of my books. There are many things like that, some that I wrote about a good deal in LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA (my autobiography) that are yet to be, one of the most dramatic being a comet or asteroid hitting an ocean and killing one third of the creatures in the sea. During Desert Storm a small one hit the Indian Ocean with the power of a nuclear weapon but this one will be as big as a burning mountain (as least that is how John described it in Revelation). In 1998 as I sat in the theater waiting for the movie DEEP IMPACT to start I heard God’s Holy Spirit say to me in the stillness before even the music had begun (or the commercials), “Someday, something similar to what you are about to see, will happen!” You can be sure I paid closer attention to what was an excellent movie. No it hasn’t happened yet, but John said it would, and so do our scientists, as we have only a few devoted to the watch of NEO’s and there are now known to be thousands of them out there. In both my books I talk about working at IBM’s system development lab decades ago and a meeting I happened to sit in on during a coffee break of top scientists from around the world discussing what the “mark of the beast” might be, what kind of computer the mark must be, but the technology did not exist then to make it. It does today, and I myself have helped make transistors so small they could not be seen with the naked eye. (The “mark of the beast” is a reference to some kind of mark that the world leader will insist every person have IN their right hand or IN forehead and which no one, not even a king, will be able to buy or sell without. It says that in the last book of the Bible and it says ‘mark in’ not mark on. A tattoo would be on but a micro-computer or even an RFID chip (which seems to a cause of cancer by the way) is IN as the Bible says. Of course you would be right in saying this hasn’t happened yet, but stick around, friend. I thank God we don’t have any world leader YET. Well, I could go on and on but you would have to have an interest in these things and want to learn about them. Do we know all there is to know yet (about the Bible or anything?). Of course not, but the Bible even has the answer to those who insist there is no God. It says, “The fool says in his heart there is no God.” That’s pretty harsh, even for the Bible, but it doesn’t mince words. The Bible says that even Satan believes in God “and trembles.” The purpose of the Bible, by the way, is to lead men to a knowledge of God and his ways and it was not until the Messiah finally came that men had a more complete understanding than just the ten commandments. In fact Jesus even gave us an eleventh commandment. Well, this is not really the place for all this but as I have answered you before in earlier comments sometimes a day or two late, if you want to know God you must seek Him. If you don’t have any faith He will give it to you but you must ask, and mean it with all your being. Faith is a gift from God but as my late mother used to say, “God is not a miracle machine, put in a dollar, and get a miracle” but He is someone who is always there for the humble and those who need Him. “Seek and ye shall find!” Just don’t be like those who are in the hell that Dr. Ritchie saw in his out of the body, after death experience, whose web address I gave a few comments back. They were all trying to kill each other to prove they were right, a living hell they could not escape from and which apparently they did not even know they were in, sort of like the mental disease you referred to but much worse.

Really denniso? Are you serious? Every single thing the Bible has predicted has happened. Everything. Thing prophecied about in the old testament were fulfilled hundreds, some a thousand or more years later. It tells about things, that todays scholars put together and find places in this current world today. Its all there, if you are seeking the truth. But if your not looking, and your eyes arent opened, you will see and know nothing, and continue to roam about the darkness, where the enemy is seeking you to devour you.

Eric, this is mainly meant for Catholics but the Pope recently gave a warning about how we are on the threshold of a new dark age. Of course it was mostly ignored by the media: http://www.youtube.com/user/RealCatholicTV?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/ndWBbrLc4rM
Some of my own family have long laughed at me for saying almost the same thing in two different books and saying how we are following the same path of disintegration that Rome took. It’s going to be interesting but no one can say exactly when it will begin. We will have several hundred percent inflation, and riots in this country as in Europe, and food shortages, but not necessarily in that order. Still better to be prepared than not, and God is always there for those who choose to be on His side. He is no respecter of persons.

Indeed Richard, it is all coming soon! Thank you for the info and may God watch over all of us in the dark times that lie ahead!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting the link. I watched the entire video. I am Catholic, and I take great comfort in knowing that the Pope has the moral courage to say what needs to be said. I wonder if the infidels on the radical Left will now slander Pope Benedict XVI by accusing him of being a right-wing wacko, fascist, bigot, etc., or by falsely accusing him of hate speech, in an attempt to silence him. Probably. But thank God the Pope is finally telling it like it is!

It will be just as the Bible says. In Daniel Chaper 2 verse 32, Daniel is interpreting King Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, in which he saw a large statue. The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. He then states that a rock, but out, but not by human hands. Note that, “not by human hands”. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. The the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and teh gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff or a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. Now to those of you that dont know, chaff is all the loose stuff, that comes off of grain, so its was blown away like powder in the wind. The Gold head, represents the Babylonian Empire, whose main metal was gold. They were taken over by the Medo Persian Empire, which is represented here by the silver chest and arms. There are two arms, one for The Medes and one for the Persians, as it was a two pronged empire. Their main metal was silver. The belly and thighs were for the Greek Empire, made of bronze, which was the chief metal used by the Greek Empire, who conquered the Medes and Persians. It started as one, but split in half following the death of Alexander the Great, thus branching into the two legs. The legs of iron and feet of clay and iron, is the Roman Empire, who conquered the Greeks. Iron was their main metal used for their swords and spears. Then there was the rock that was cut out, but not by human hands. It is written in the Bible over and over, that Jesus is the rock. When the rock came and smashed the feet and broke this statue into pieces, that turned to chaff and blew away in the wind, it is symbolic of just how weak and feeble men are, when God comes to do His work. They were blown away, and left without a trace. Completely decimated. It is widely believed that the 10 toes represent the ten nations that will comprise the one world government that is coming, and we all see it coming to that. In Daniel 7:7-8, this refers to the 10 nations, and soon after forming, 3 will be removed. Shortly after that, is when Christ will come again to right all wrongs, and peace will then reign forever. Right now there are 25 countries that form the so called European Union. When you see that trimmed down to 10, hold on.